Dumb Blonde - Suede Brooks: She Finally Talks About Drake & Calabasas Confidential
Episode Date: June 29, 2026Suede joins Bunnie for a brutally honest conversation, pulling back the curtain on Calabasas Confidential and revealing what was real, what producers scripted, and why she's done be...ing painted as the villain. She clears up the Gemma and Dylan drama, breaks down that infamous beach scene, and shares how childhood bullying led her to build an online empire before reinventing herself on TikTok.Then things get spicy. Suede addresses the Scott Disick rumors, opens up about Kid Cudi, and finally tells the full story behind Drake, the yacht, the hookup, and the texts that left her scared to leave her house. She also talks about navigating the poker world, staying sober in LA's party scene, and losing a close friend to an overdose.Plus, Suede teases a new romance, talks about her dream of starting a podcast, and reveals whether she'd ever return for Season 2 of Calabasas Confidential. Stick around until the end as two Vegas girls bond over love, reputation, and why taking the high road always wins.Suede Brooks: IG | TTWatch Full Episodes & More: YouTubeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Is this thing on?
What's up, you sexy motherfuckers?
Welcome to another podcast.
Today, I have another Vegas batty in the house,
and I'm so excited to be sitting down with her.
Literally, the breakout.
I think you're one of the breakout stars
from Calabasas, Confidential.
Oh my goodness, you think?
I think so.
Swayed Brooks is in the house.
baby. Hi guys. I'm so honored to be here. I'm so, you're so beautiful and I love, I just found out
that you're an Aquarius. I am indeed. Yeah, February 8th, I'm a triple Aquarius. Triple,
moon. What is it? What's, what's the Aquarius? Yeah, so like my rising, I don't really know much about it,
but I know that like every single thing is Aquarius in my book, which is kind of crazy. That's kind of why
you're so like airy and like just light, I think. Oh, absolutely. And I feel like when I meet other Aquarius is,
I'm like, oh yeah. I'm an Aquarius. Oh, see, really.
recognize real girl. I'm on the, I'm on the very beginning though, so I have a lot of that
Capricorn pole. What day is your birthday? January 22nd. Okay, I'm the 8th of February.
Yeah, we're right around the quarter. I always feel like February Aquarius is there's so much
softer. I feel like I'm like very aggressive and rough and like, well, that's agreed. I think
with Aquarius is you either have that like super alpha female. And it's hard. And it's hard.
At least for me, it's hard. Now, you're so feminine. You think I try my best. No, you're
You're so feminine.
Oh, thank you.
I don't get masculine energy from you at all.
Yeah, I feel like there's a time and a place.
Yeah.
But it's like me and my older sister.
Yeah.
I'll definitely be like the big dog.
But other than that, I try to like, you know, be demure.
Oh, I love it.
Be cutesy.
Try my best.
I love it.
I think you handled yourself on the show, which we'll talk about it later.
But I think you handled yourself on the show pretty well.
I know the internet has difference of opinions, which we'll get into.
Absolutely.
And I can't wait to get into it.
I feel like you're the.
perfect person to talk to this about. Yeah. And I think didn't Jim adjust interview with
while files or something like that? She did indeed. Yeah. Has that dropped yet? It did drop.
Did it drop? Oh my God. I didn't see anything about it. Yeah. She said some honestly
awful things about me in that podcast. I was very upset with the way that it was handled. I'm honestly
very upset with production, Netflix. I was pitched a show that was completely different than the way that
it turned out.
That's usually how it happens.
Yeah.
I feel like especially with,
don't take this the wrong way,
but with like the younger crowd,
I feel like they manipulate you guys a lot and they get like bits and pieces of what
they want and they'll pitch it to you one way,
but then how it comes out to the masses is a completely other way.
Absolutely.
I think the way that they edited me in it specifically,
I mean,
I didn't know any of the cast members and I wasn't friends with any of them.
Okay.
So they're all a lot younger.
than me and they're all from Calabasas. Like I said, I'm from Vegas. Yeah. So I got pitched the deal from a
mutual friend and they were like, hey, we just need another girl like that will bring on some fun,
you know, texture to the show. And obviously I'm here to do my job and I take my work very seriously. So
it was something that was super excited about. And the filming process was amazing. I mean,
it was definitely scripted for me at least because like I said, I didn't grow up with these kids.
I don't know them.
And I just, you know, turn my personality on when I needed to.
Yeah.
So.
Okay, well, let's dive into it.
I was going to wait till later to talk about.
No, I know.
I don't mean you were like trauma dunk queens.
No, please dump all you want.
Okay.
So what made you say yes, though, to like reality TV after, you know, controlling your
image online?
Because you were, you've been influencing since you were like 12.
I have indeed.
Yeah.
Which is wild.
I've been on the internet, yeah, since I was 12 years old.
I started making videos because I was like severely bullied through.
through out middle school and I just hit this like really gnarly depression in like six or seventh grade.
And I would watch these girls on YouTube put on makeup.
And I just fell in love with it.
There was just like a whole beauty and fashion side to YouTube that I just like was in awe of.
And I was like, if I'm learning all these tricks, why not, you know, do it myself.
And like I said, I was severely bullied throughout middle school.
I went through like a really tough time.
And I've always been able to control my own narrative on the internet.
You know?
And that's what's so great about what we do is because we're able to get on
the internet and say how we feel. And so I said yes because it was something new and it was something
exciting and I don't consume reality television. I've never watched really any of the housewives
or anything along those lines. But when they did pitch it to me, it came off as this super fun,
lighthearted show with kids that were, you know, born and raised in the valley that have famous
parents and it was just something that was interesting to me that I was like, you know what,
you only live once. Let's just try and see how it goes. Yeah. You know, and which I mean,
anybody who's brought this deal is going to be like, absolutely, I want to do this. And then,
and then you see them like, you see the money, you see the rate. I'm like, okay, at the end of the day,
this is my job and I take my job very seriously. And when that, when those mics are on and those
cameras are on, I snap into the, the suede. Yeah, I snap into the suede that. Yeah, I snap into the suede
that people love and have seen on the internet for 10 plus years, you know.
So, and the rest of the cast has never really experienced the internet side of the world.
You've lived a lot of life.
As I was researching you, and I'm, if you see me over here, I have like a ton of notes right here.
It's amazing.
You've lived a lot of life.
And I think that that's kind of what sets you apart.
Like you could automatically, as soon as you walked into that room of, I don't want to say kids, but as soon as you walk into that room of kids, you
can feel the difference of maturity from you as opposed to the other because they're still learning.
They're still living.
Absolutely.
And they're all like still growing.
They're all still living at their parents' house.
I moved out when I was 15 years old, you know.
I've been living by myself, paying my own bills.
So it was definitely like I couldn't really relate to them.
Yeah.
Because they're all come from like rich parents.
So you don't have the rich parent backstory.
I don't have any of that.
I mean, I grew up in a very middle class family in Las Vegas.
It was basically like me and Tanna.
That was like me and Tanna were the only really girls
who kind of like came out of Vegas.
And I love Tana. Tana's my girl.
No, she's my sister.
I love her to death.
She's always been like literally my rock in all of this.
But yeah, it was something new that came to the table
and I was willing to take that risk.
I was upset about the edit
and the way that they made it seem like I was super close
with these kids.
Right.
That I had like this.
special relationship with this girl Gemma on the show, which we can definitely get into.
Yeah.
What is the dynamic with you and Gemma?
Because I haven't watched the podcast.
I did not even know that it dropped.
That's how much press it didn't get.
Thank you, which I'm so happy about because it really hurt.
I mean, I don't know the girl.
I don't know her to the point where even in the show, I don't know if you'd watch,
but like, I didn't even know how to spell her name.
Right.
It got to the point where like, I really, I filmed one scene with her, which was,
that beach scene, and that was the first day I met her, and they wanted to make it seem like
I was friends with her before that, or I had known her when I really didn't. And then the next scene
producers got into my car. They looked at me and they said, hey, you're going to do a scene
with this girl, Gemma. She's going through this thing with this boy, and something happened in
freshman year. And I'm sitting there like, okay, like, any way I can help this girl kind of get out of
these emotions, I'm here. And I spoke and said some things that I would say to any other girl
going through that situation. That you're meeting for the first time, which I'm meeting for the
first time, I think is a huge, you know, bullet, bullet point that we need to, you know, drive home here
because I feel like the internet is like, oh my God, you got, you did this to your girl and you
turned your back on this on your girl. It's like, how can I turn my back on somebody I never had a
relationship with in the beginning? Right. And also,
Gemma's a bully. I mean, the things that she said about me post-filming the show,
we filmed this show last year in July. It's been one year. And I've only really said
like a few words in my life to this girl. And for her to go on the internet and say the things
she's doing, it's malicious and mean. And I'm, I stand up for bullying. I work very hard in my
philanthropy with bullying. I work very closely with the foundation. And I travel around schools and talk
about this because it's a very serious thing. Yeah. And I went through it personally at a young
age. And to see it all just kind of come up in this nasty light is really sad because this show was
supposed to be something fun and lighthearted, I think, for all of us. And it just kind of blew up.
I feel like Gemma is, and I don't know or I've never met her, but from what I've seen from the scenes
and from what you're telling me about, like kind of what she's been saying on the podcast is it seems
like she has a hard time letting go of things and she lets her emotions control her. You know,
when she got up and she like yanked a pillow out of somebody's hand, it was awful. That's, that's,
that's when you're crossing the line and that's when you need to, people need to throw up boundaries.
I can't even believe the producers let her do that. Now, listen, I come from a fighting background.
Right. If somebody's grabbing a pillow out of my hand, we're, we're scrapping. It's smoke.
Straight up. Exactly. Straight up. But I couldn't, like in this day and age, I also couldn't believe
that the producers even kept that in there.
And you would be surprised the amount of stuff that they cut to.
That scene alone.
Let's talk about that.
Yeah, absolutely.
And like,
that's what I'm here for because I want to be able to be, like, honest with the situation.
Obviously, I wanted to kind of go along with the reality show and the bit.
But, like, it's gone to a point where, like, I want to clear it up.
I want to clear my name.
And I also want to clear, like, just the debauchery that blew up on the show that wasn't
supposed to be, that it wasn't supposed to be what it was, you know?
Gemma, from the beginning of the season, I think producers knew that she was going to do anything
to get some clout coins, some little tokens.
This girl is a normal girl who lives in Calabasas.
I've heard, I mean, even now it's crazy.
I'm getting messages from like girls from her old high school.
Like she was an mean, mean girl in high school.
She did awful things to other kids.
And now that it's all coming on, I'm like, I'm just going to.
let the truth speak for itself.
Yeah.
I want to those, if there is a second season, people will start to see a pattern with her.
And I'm telling you, the mouse has changed their minds constantly, you know?
Absolutely.
Obviously, it's like the old saying goes, hurt people, hurt people.
So something happened in Gemma's life where she feels the need to have to project her pain
onto other people.
And that's never okay.
Because in the end, you cannot bleed on the people that didn't cut you.
Exactly. And honestly, I've been nothing but loving and nice to that woman since the day, like, we've filmed to the premiere date. If you've seen, like, there's been, I think there's a few, like an interview of me just talking about Gemma. And honestly, I was, I was telling this interviewer that I was so proud of how good of a season she did. And she, like, I was just saying great things because I didn't want any issues. At the end of the day, like, it's reality TV. I'm not going to say anything bad about you as long as you don't say,
anything bad about me. But then the second she went on Vile Files and said what she said,
I was like, oh, I want nothing to do with the show. I want nothing to do with the production
company. The way that they, even just like, I'm going to like, I'm going to go there and be
honest, they had like reposted the things that she'd said about me on Vile Files. And the president
of the production company had reposted it and thought it was like funny, mind you, what she said
in the Vile Files video, she verbatimely looked at the camera and goes, she fucks me. She's
men for a living. Not, I think, not in my opinion. Can we pull that up? It's, it was awful.
And like, I've tried to escape this narrative for the past decade in my career. I, obviously,
I date men in a different tax bracket than her. And she clearly just cannot fathom that.
She's never been exposed to the life that I've lived. And so I think from what she sees on the
internet and what she can grab and pull, I think she needs to learn that she can't just go online
and say those things and think that it's okay.
Right.
You know, so when that came out,
I immediately called like my close friends
in the podcast world in the industry.
And I'm like, what do I do about this?
Because she needs to learn a lesson that.
She can't just go online and say those things
and not expect any repercussion, you know?
Like, especially at that age.
I know for a fact she's going to look back in five years
and realize, you know, what she said and did.
But it was hard.
It was like, dang, like you're that nasty.
You're going to go there?
Well, I think she's triggering your childhood wounds also because she's now become your bully.
And it's like you've ran your whole life trying to escape, you know, bullies.
It's like PTSD straight up.
But I think the best thing that you can do is keep being you and keep leading by example.
Because love always wins.
I know it's the hardest thing to do.
And I know it sounds like, oh, that's so cliche.
but I promise you.
You got to take the high road.
You have to take the high road.
I also think that like these kids,
I'm going to say kids because that's what it felt like.
Yeah.
And I'm sure a lot of people can read that dynamic on the show.
They've,
they never like experience,
like I said,
they never experienced any of this.
So like they're getting clips of them
and they're on this high,
you know,
but once that like dies down,
they're going to realize like,
oh, shoot,
I might have,
I shouldn't have said what I said.
For sure. And so for people who don't know what the beef is over.
Yeah. Sorry, guys. Let's talk about. So if you guys have not watched Calabas's Confidential,
please run to Netflix and watch this. I did not think in a million years I would get sucked
in to this show. And I watched like two episodes and I was like, oh, I'm in. Oh, I'm so happy
you enjoyed it. No, I did. So, um, okay, there's this boy named Dylan. Yes, there is.
Talk to me about Dylan.
And so Gemma had hooked up with Dylan in freshman year.
Dylan and Gemma have like, I guess, hooked up freshman year of high school.
And I didn't know Dylan when she was telling me all these stories.
Mind you, like I said, I didn't know any of the cast.
You met her one day.
I met her one time.
And this is all you heard about him was meeting her that first time.
So we just want to clarify that, ladies and gentlemen, before you form an opinion.
Absolutely.
So also, like I wanted to.
to make a moment in the show. I knew if I was going to do this show, I was going to find a way to
get a little bit of screen time, you know? Like, I wasn't going to half ass it. And also,
I needed to find a way to kind of like, kind of stay in the show. So I saw Dylan. I met Dylan.
I thought he was so cute, so handsome. I'm like, there's no way that this is the kid that
Gemma's talking about, that whatever happened six years ago in high school or whatever, you know.
And you even stuck up for her the first night when you first night when you first,
met him when he was being a douchebag.
Absolutely.
And I always will.
Like I don't think any man should say what he said to gem up.
Period.
I don't care how much beef you have.
You just don't say that to women.
Right.
And that night was actually my first night I had met him was at that party.
Did you know right then and there you wanted to hook up with him when you met him?
Fun fact, I actually was never intimate with him.
So that's also like another huge thing that should be known.
That's crazy.
hooked up with him. I never had sex with him. Like, this was all, I hate to say and I hate to break that
it was all scripted. But like for my story and my storyline in the show, the only way for me to stay
in this season, I was like, okay, well, I'm not going to let this girl Gemma control what I do in
the show. That's a fact. And so I saw Dylan, I was like, oh, he's cute. And the amount of times
the producers told me to kiss him on camera, it was like they had a gun to my head. And
And I didn't do that because I knew that personally my morals, I would never kiss on camera on national television.
I personally think it's the most embarrassing thing to ever do.
I think it depends on the setting.
Yes.
And also like the person.
Right, right.
Like they're kids.
Because you guys might see me kiss on camera later on.
You know, you never know.
You never know, Gabe.
I'm single and wild now.
So you never know what could happen.
Aren't we all?
Oh my goodness.
So, yeah, that's also like another huge thing that like people don't really understand.
is that, yeah, I never was friends with them.
Dude, I totally thought you guys banged.
No.
Because the way he made us sound like you were like a wildcat.
Like he just could not.
There's not even a scene of me even smooching the kid.
Yeah.
Like the most I ever touched him on camera was because Bill Dixon, the head show producer,
he pulled me aside and he goes, Swade.
For this scene, you need to act like you're like kind of flirting.
Is it the beach scene?
It's the beach scene.
And I'm like, my arm.
And you can tell that like, okay, I'm,
I'm doing this because I want, obviously I want a good show.
I want a successful show.
Right.
And me and the head show producer ended up becoming really close.
And so.
Was Gemma's reactions pure?
Well, I think for her it was real.
Like she thought all of this was real.
Okay.
And you, there's no way that you could pull her.
And for me, like there's an on and off button with my career.
I have my real life.
I have my real friends, my real connections.
And then I had this TV show with a bunch of kids.
that I had to kind of turn the switch on to make a show.
You finessed a situation.
Absolutely.
And it worked because, you know.
And you know what?
I think you and Dylan sold the show.
Like, yeah.
If it wasn't for Dylan and I, like, there would be no storyline.
There wouldn't be.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It was very much like the Dylan and Swade and Gemma kind of situation.
Well, Gemma is known, though, for being upset all the time.
I mean, she scream cried probably five times throughout the whole season over absolutely
nothing.
Yeah, it was a lot.
So, and like even that, like, I already knew off rip that I wasn't going to be friends with her.
Right.
And the only person I was somewhat close with during the whole show and even before the show was this girl Nicole.
And me and Nicole shared the same manager.
So we were, me and her were pitched the show at the same time.
Right.
And they said, okay, we'll take Nicole because she's from the valley and she knows these kids.
And suede, she's just a big internet personality.
Why not bring her in to, you know, make a little suede latte here in there.
Can we talk about the suede latte because that is so funny. You're like, can I get the suede latte?
And it's so funny how that actually like ended up becoming like such a moment.
Yeah. Which honestly, I'm so happy about it. No, I love it. I love your name by the way.
Thank you. Is that your real name? It's my real name. I have a sister name India and I have a brother named Blaze.
Oh my gosh. I love that. I love that. No, suede is so pretty. When I first heard that, I was like, God, if I ever have a little girl, I would.
I love the name Swede.
I still was going to be Swade, but it was going to be S-W-A-D-E.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love that.
I forgot.
We were talking about the Swade Latte sister.
Oh my gosh, yes, the Swade Latte.
So a close friend of mine owns a coffee shop called La La Land.
And he had reached out to me about a year and a half ago and he was like, hey, we're going to do this secret
menu situation.
We're going to get you and like a few other big influencers in L-A.
We're going to do lattes.
And I'm like, I love coffee.
I've always had a passion for it.
I make coffee for myself every morning.
And I was like, let's do a banana cream latte.
And so I curated the whole kind of latte.
And we did a big press release.
We did a whole launch.
And it's still on the menu to this day, which is so fun.
Now it's funny because I did this a while back.
Yeah.
But it's funny how it kind of like recircuits.
Yeah.
And now you have kids going up to the coffee shop.
Hey, can I get a sweet latte?
I love it.
I think it's so sweet.
The sound on TikTok, I think, is viral too.
No, I know.
That's what so.
And like people are recreating it, which kind of cracks me up.
We should do it.
Let's do it together.
Oh, we have to.
We'll do it together before you leave.
100%.
You'll be the barista.
Yeah, let's do it.
But yeah, so like I went into the show just wanting to show my character, show who I, show who I am as a person.
And with the way that, you know, these reality shows work, they like to cut it and edit it the way they want and make you seem.
Who do you think got the best edit out of the whole show?
I think.
Because I feel like even though people are mad at you, I feel like you and Dylan got like the best edits out of everybody.
We definitely got the most screen time for sure.
Yeah.
And like I said, I'm not going to half-ass anything I do.
I'm going to go into this.
Like I'm going to go balls to the walls and try my best not to obviously disrespect anyone, which I won't.
I mean, even sitting here being hurt by Gemma's words on vile files, which did we find a clip?
The thing is, yeah.
So the vile file situation before that dropped, me and Jemma were on good terms.
I made a pat to her.
And the second we finished filming, I said, hey, as long as you don't come for my family
and you don't come for things that will actually hurt me, babe, I'm all for you making
TikToks for the success of the show.
Right.
Purely for the success of the show, have fun.
Do what you want.
But then it got real.
I landed in New York about a week ago.
And we were all supposed to film the, like it's like an interview they were supposed to do
as an added episode.
And I landed in New York and I opened my phone and somebody had sent me the bio files of what
she had said.
And when she said what she said on that, I was like, oh.
I can't believe I missed that doing my research last night.
That's how much it did not pop up in my algorithm.
Honestly, I'm so happy about because it's like, girl, if you're going to say something like
that, at least come with receipts.
And I know for a fact that girl don't have receipts because I've never done that day in my life.
Yeah.
I mean, that's just, it's a low blow.
It's a low blow, babe.
Like, come on.
Yeah.
I'm all for going tip for town online funny.
Like, but now when you're affecting my,
when you're affecting my career and my reputation,
yeah.
That's where I'm like,
shine.
Yeah.
Like,
I don't have time for you.
You're a random girl that lives in Calabasas that actually,
I hate to break it to you,
lives on my best friend's land.
Her family bought a,
bought a property on my friends.
Like literally my uncle's land.
Yeah.
So it's like,
I don't want to be affected by a girl
that I have,
nothing to do with that I genuinely don't know. Well, I also feel like they're kind of ganging up on
you too. Oh, absolutely. Can you see, can you find it? But it's like imagine coming from that much
money and being rich and having famous parents and you're still not cool. It's like, girl,
you got all the resources to be. She has Preston like joining in now on TikTok. Which is also like,
mind you, I've had issues with Preston's mother. Okay. Oh. So it's like to have, yeah,
that's, that's where I'm going to start. Wait a second. Yeah. No. So Preston's mom is,
Preston's mom is Larsa Pippin.
Larsa Pippin, okay.
I feel like I'm going to keep my comments to myself.
But okay, so Larza Pippin, it is a grown-ass woman.
She's my age, right?
She is indeed.
Yeah.
So why on earth would you ever have beef with this woman?
I didn't have like beef with her.
Like I said, I've had issues with Larsa.
So the fact that I'm even having issues with her son now, I'm like, what is up with this family
treat, babe?
She's too grown to be acting like that.
And also Preston, like, you would think with all that money and fame that you would have
some sort of personality, like the guy's unemployed.
That's it strikes me as being very passive.
And also, I'm going to leave this, I'm going to leave this very as like a blank statement.
The guy hasn't found himself.
And I think he's dealing with a lot of demons that he hasn't come to terms with with
himself.
Well, we gathered that.
And the way that he acts as a 21 or 2 year old.
male to be coming at women like that on the internet
and you think it's funny or you think it's whatever.
Well, I think it says more about him than anybody else.
Well, and as an adult looking in,
I can see that he has a lot of mom trauma.
Absolutely.
And I don't blame him.
He even kind of talks about it and breaks down in the show
talking about how much his mom has affected his,
you know growing up and all that stuff so not giving him a pass but he is 21 so he's got to figure it
and he's still growing and he's still learning but that's what I'm saying like yeah I feel like
when these kids do look back at this show they're going to realize like oh wow I shouldn't have
stoop to that level or I shouldn't have said what I said and that's why they want you guys because
everybody's green and everybody's willing to make those mistakes because that makes fucking great TV
right are you going to let if they ask you to come back for a second season will you come back for a
second season? Honestly, it would depend on the rate. It would depend on where I am with my business
at that point. I don't think you should ever let the way these people are acting towards you ever
determine your future. Yeah, agreed. I also just don't want the narrative out that like I'm like
best friends with these kids. Well, I think you're saying the record straight now. Yeah, which I'm very
happy about. Yeah. That's what I really wanted to clear because I would never be friends with
bullies. I would never be friends with girls like Gemma. So where do you and Dylan stand?
Me and Dylan are on great terms. He has honestly been the only one in the cast that was kind of
like there for me throughout all of it because like I said, this is all very new to me. And I think
new for him too. But I told him when the cameras were off and all of the mics were off
that like me and him no matter what we're going to be on great terms. I never thought of anything
serious with him. I never thought that I was like, I never thought that I would like see him
as like a significant other whatsoever. I was purely just having fun and trying to make great
TV. Yeah. So now that the cameras are off, have you guys hooked up or anything like that?
We haven't. We haven't hooked up. Girl, you're making this boy wait. No, seriously.
Does he, is he into you? Because I'm going to be asking him all these questions too.
Absolutely. Because you know, Dylan's coming on in like a week, right? Oh, I love that. Yeah. Yeah.
Honestly, he's great.
Like me,
me and Dylan have such a great friendship that I also, like, have moved on.
Yeah.
I'm on to, like, I just don't see myself dating him.
I don't feel like he's in your tax.
Cowboy.
Like, I don't, that's not my.
Yeah.
I don't feel like he's in your tax bargain either.
No, thank you.
Preach into the choir, babe.
It's like, it's very hard.
It was all fun.
It was all supposed to be fun and lighthearted.
And that's not me being mean in any way, shape, or form.
Because Dylan seems like a sweetheart.
But he has a lot of growing to do.
Yeah. Well, that and it's also you're used to a certain type of man that you date.
Well, I'm used to men. Right, right, right. Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a different
ballgame, different field, if you will. Yeah. Let's see this clip from Gemma really quick so I can
analyze it. Yeah, please. I need the bunny analyst, seriously. Can we talk about Swade?
Oh, please, can we? So I was confused and I'm a fan of Swade. Yeah. But the first episode or the
second episode. She's giving you big sister advice. Yeah. And then the next episode, she's dating
Dylan. Yeah, basically. It's giving Amanda Petula. She was close to you, right? Yes. So, like,
was that as shocking? A hundred percent. I think everyone was completely shocked by that because she was
so much like, I'm bigger and better than all of you. She's really giving that vibe and I'm going to
coach you guys and like be this big sister to everyone. For the show specifically? Or. No, just in life.
I feel like she always is like, I'm just going to be a person you can go to because I've been doing this for so long.
And like, she acts like, I, why would I even bother, you know, with that?
That's basically how I got it from hers.
Like, why would I even bother with that kid?
Like, and then they went home after Kiki Chella and I don't know, I guess something.
She gave him a ride home.
But then that was multiple rides.
Yes, multiple.
Where did the two of you stand today?
We're not friends.
Yeah.
I don't, I did not appreciate the comment about calling me an unemployed.
I don't think what she necessarily does counts as employed, so.
Oh, no.
No.
But doesn't she do?
I mean, like, you know, she was, and she was big in her time, no longer, you know.
How do you think she keeps up with that lifestyle?
She goes on yachts with guys and does things for money.
And so I don't count that as employed either, so.
So the photos of her like with Drake were,
you're a yacht girl.
Let's just say what it is.
We've all sucked a dong for some money, okay?
I know that's right.
Like what are we saying, Jemma?
Like, babe, you have it so twisted.
You're a yacht girl.
I love that.
Okay, so yacht girl.
Yeah, literally, right?
I'm like, shit, I'll take it.
Is that all she said?
This is a very dry, dry interview.
It's giving snooze fest, okay?
I watched two minutes of it.
I was waiting for the punchline.
And mind you, if she would have said this and had a punchline after that made it, that would have made me laugh.
Yeah.
By all means, have a ball.
But for you to verbatimly say that.
Yeah.
I feel like she's a little threatened.
She's never lived in the real world.
You can tell.
She's been stuffed up in Westlake Village for her whole life.
You know what I mean?
I feel like it's giving just she's super jealous and intimidated.
Absolutely.
And I hate that for her.
I don't blame her.
I'd be jealous too.
Seriously.
I hate that for her because it makes her look very.
bitter. Like her entire storyline on and off camera, like, is this what you want to present to the world?
Is just being this bitter woman who literally puts down other women? This bitter mean girl.
Yeah, like she's got a, she needs to switch that up because it will. And I hope that she will.
honestly. It will end up biting her in the ass to where she's going to have to change because God
doesn't like ugly. And when you go around bashing people like this and spewing hatred the way that she does,
it comes back full circle. It always comes back full circle. And she's going to have to learn a really hard
lesson if she doesn't change it immediately.
And also I think you're already winning this entire situation.
Now that I know that you guys weren't friends and to see her acting like this,
knowing that you guys had only met one time, like you didn't, you didn't, you didn't
owe her any loyalty because you didn't know her.
And I still don't know her.
Right.
And I don't plan on getting to know her honestly ever again after like the things that she said.
And please, I think she's made probably nine TikToks about me.
and those are the only ones that are getting views because, and like by all means,
use my name for views all you want.
If that's the only way that you can give views, babe, have a ball.
Right.
But to get Preston in on it and like all the other cast members, it's like, girl.
I love that you haven't even made one though.
No, because I don't care about these kids.
They're literally kids to me.
And I could read that from the day, the first day I was on set.
The second they put this mic up and I saw Gemma, I was like, oh, no.
I'm in for a ride.
Are there, so besides Nicole, is there anybody else in the, like, little crew that you're friends with?
So it's funny because I'm a friend, I'm friends with a lot of their, like, older siblings.
Like, Percy Miller, I'm really close with his older brother Romeo that I've known for years.
He dated one of my home girls for a minute.
And shout out Master P, dude.
Straight up.
The biggest.
I'm not so gangster.
I fucking love Master P.
Dude, I grew up on Master P.
How you do that?
There.
Like, oh, my God.
I was, like, so excited.
I was like, look at the OG.
And it's such a moment, especially with the father's son.
Like, it's such a great dynamic.
No, I love it.
Like, I've known Romeo Miller, so Hersey's older brother.
And then I've known Jody because I know Jordan Woods.
And I've known Jordan's mom for years.
I met Jody when she was 11 years old.
Which can we talk about how freaking beautiful Jody is?
Oh my God.
She's so beautiful.
I'm so proud of her too, honestly.
And she stays out of grown folks' business.
I know that's right.
She doesn't bother anybody.
I'm bothered.
keeps her head down and like she hustles and she's a hard worker and I honestly have nothing but
the utmost respect for Jody.
I hope she gets more camera time.
I met her when she was 11 years old.
So it's so cool to see her like grow and flourish into the woman that she is.
It's amazing.
And like I love her mom and they're all great.
But yeah.
So like I said, it's like I know a lot of them like because of their older siblings are like they're,
it was, I've never really been direct friendships with any.
of them, right? With literally any of them. It's so crazy to me that they did this show and didn't have
Alabama Barker on it or Landon. Highly agreed. I'm, I'm very close to Scott and Scott Dissick.
Oh, yeah, we're going to talk about Scott sister. Because he's like a brother to me and it's so fun. Let's segue into
that. Let's do it. Yeah, yeah. So I was very shook that they didn't ask Landon or Alabama because I heard that
Landon and Alabama through like the absolute raging parties in Calabasas and like they are like Calabas.
That's what I heard too.
I think honestly, they probably asked her and she said no.
I don't know.
She left a comment and was like, how are you guys?
Yeah.
But, you know, she could have just been messing around too.
But I've been trying to get Bamma on the podcast forever.
And we've, we've-
I think it's awful the way the internet really just.
No, no.
I'm so protective over her because I'm friends with her mom, uh, Shana.
So I love Shana to death.
So that's like baby girl.
Yeah.
I'm sure you look at her like you look at your own daughter.
You're like, I would never want, I mean, the way that they.
excuse my language fucked her up on the internet it's awful it's but i love that she's turning the tides
now and she should and she's honestly so talented i can't wait for her to drop her own curling iron
and drop her own extensions like and she needs to do a wig line absolutely girl has the best wigs i've
ever seen straight up and she's like she's talented like she knows how to do hair absolutely so let's
talk about scott dissick yeah you guys never dated we never dated he's been a close okay so i met scott
when I was...
He's like, how old are you?
I'm 25.
Okay, and he's like 40 something, right?
I think now, yeah, we just celebrated his birthday, like not long ago.
Scott would be hanging around the young chicks.
He does.
And it's funny.
I met him a while back in New York when I was, I was definitely underage, for sure.
We were leaving a Vogue party.
Not shocking.
No, not shocking.
Checks out.
No kidding.
Scott, we love you bad.
I know he's watching this too.
Yeah.
Oh, I've talked about Scott throughout the years.
I can't let's get the Lord on the podcast.
No, we should.
Oh my God.
Honestly,
I would have brought him.
Honestly,
he's like,
he's a very close friend of mine.
And even when the show dropped,
the first message I got from him was,
how are you guys going to make a show in the valley and not call me?
Oh, God.
Scott's like,
I want to be the babysitter.
No,
straight up.
But yeah,
there was like this narrative online that me and him dated.
We've,
we've never dated.
He's always literally been like a brother to me.
I see him.
He's not creepy.
He's never been,
like,
he's not creepy.
I love that.
Yeah.
It's like family.
Like straight up,
I love Mason.
Penelope's a sweetheart.
All the kids are great.
Like he's always honestly been there for me.
And especially during this whole reality show stuff,
if I could say one person that has had my back and help me through a lot of these situations,
it's him.
Like because he's been through it firsthand and he knows how these narratives get spun and this,
that the third, please.
If I could tell you the text messages he's sent me about that girl, Gemma,
Oh gosh.
Because he watched it.
So does he know Gemma or?
He doesn't know Gemma personally.
But like he watched the show and he's like, oh my goodness.
He's like, I've seen this before.
Thank you.
He's like, oh, this, I could read this from a mile away.
Yeah.
Scott's great.
And he really, I have the utmost respect for him.
I love that.
Let's circle back to your childhood just to get people who don't know like your background
and your upbringing.
So you grew up in Vegas.
Born and raised in Vegas.
You were homeschooled.
mean, tell me all about your childhood out in Vegas. So I, so I grew up and yeah, born and raised
in Henderson and I was a pretty normal outgoing girl in elementary school and up to middle
school. I was the captain of the cheer team. I had such a passion for cheerleading and dancing.
And that was like basically my whole life up until about eighth grade. That's when everything
just kind of went downhill with my emotions. And this is when the,
All the bullying started happening.
What was the catalyst for the bullying starting?
So I was severely bullied by a family friend of ours.
They lived directly across the street from us.
It was a mother and two twin girls.
The mom would say awful things to me.
This was like right when Instagram was happening too.
She tried to run me over with her car.
And that was like the final straw where my mom was like,
oh, okay, this is real now.
and we need to do something about it.
Okay, so she tried to run you over.
What was her ground?
Not that there's ever an excuse for bullying.
It was the root of jealousy.
Wow.
The whole thing was about like me copying the twin girls like in clothes.
Because mind you, we all shopped at the same stores.
Right.
We all went to Paxton because they had the Brandy Melville and all of us, I mean,
half the school had the same t-shirt because we would all go back to school shopping at
the same places.
It was all rooted in just jealousy and comparison.
And it got to.
For grown women to pick on children?
Oh, as for a mother?
That's crazy.
It was so traumatic.
At that age, too, I felt like my world was collapsing.
I was 12 years old.
I would sit in my room and just watch these girls put on makeup.
And I would watch, I mean, please, Trisha Paitis.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a whole group of girls that I could name off that really impacted my career.
The YouTube era.
Yeah.
And like the prime YouTube era.
I'm talking like 20, yeah, 2012 to like, 20,
to like 2017.
I traveled the world.
I would go to like beauty con.
I don't know if you remember IMAX.
But yeah, so growing up I just started,
you just started making these videos at 12.
Nobody knew.
So I hid my YouTube channel for like a year from my whole family.
Okay.
So would you have gotten in trouble had they found out?
Okay, so the whole, I was hiding it because back then,
like saying you were a YouTuber was like embarrassing or like to say you made
videos. It was like, there was like a negative connotation to it. So I kept it like to myself because
it was just something I just had fun like doing it in my room. It was my escape and it's what made me
happy. And I just geeked out over camera equipment, lighting, editing. I be, I would, I would sit for
hours and just edit these little beauty videos and I'm not thinking anything of it. Like, mind you,
I didn't even know you can make money. This was before the influencer business was even like a
thing, you know? You were influencing before. Before. Yeah. And I was just like, I'm having
fun with this. Yeah. And so yeah, I hit it from a year. I was in Target one day and the little girl had
come up to me. I was with my mom and she goes, I love your videos. And the second she said that,
my mom's face went like blue because she was like, what type of videos are you talking? What do you,
what do you mean videos? So obviously as a mom, you think the worst. Right. Yeah. And so I had to sit
down both my parents. I'm like, hey guys, I have a YouTube channel. I've been making beauty and fashion
content. I really have a passion for it. And they were just so happy that I found an escape.
They were happy it wasn't anything else too. I know. That's right. And it will never be.
Okay. But yeah. So my parents also come from the beauty background. We own a few hair salons in
Vegas at the time. And my mom's a hairdresser and my dad ran and managed all of them. So what
hair salons? Do you want to shout him out? It was called Diva Studio. Yeah. And it was also just so fun growing up
in that environment. I would go to all the hair shows. My mom would travel the world and do,
teach for all these like amazing hair brands, L'OLE, all the OGs. So it was cool. I also had a
feeling I was going to be in an industry somewhere like that, whether it was hair, makeup, anything
like that. Yeah, it's just in your DNA. Yeah. So they were just happy that I found something that I had
a passion for and that I loved, you know, and I was keeping myself busy. And one thing led to another,
I kind of built this like pretty solid fan base on YouTube. And one,
Once you get big on YouTube, it's like, it's definitely the most respected platform.
Yeah.
Well, it's the hardest to build on too.
And it, and it is the hardest.
And once you, I don't know, I'm going to show you because you'll laugh at this.
This is my one tattoo that I have.
Yeah.
And it's the little YouTube playboy.
Aw.
I had to pay my dues, you know.
Back to the roots.
I love that.
Yeah, YouTube was such a big part of my life.
And then once the adpocalypse happened in 2016, I kind of strayed away from it just because
all the advertisers pulled out and we weren't making a less than a quarter.
order of what we used to make.
Wow.
And YouTube just changed.
They always managed to fuck up a platform.
Right.
Always.
It doesn't matter what platform it is.
You know, and then I just kept making kind of short form content.
And then once TikTok came around, I was like, oh, no, we have a whole new app on the market.
This is dangerous.
And I started posting on there and I just kind of posted what I knew what would do well
on YouTube back in the day, which were get ready with me's.
And like everyday makeups on YouTube.
So I would, I posted them on TikTok.
and I kind of built this whole new Gen A fan base on TikTok with my little Get Ready with
Me's during COVID.
And it really didn't save me, but it felt like I was like kind of back in the scene,
if you will.
It was nostalgic for you.
It was.
Yeah.
Because like I said, I've always had a passion for making videos.
So it was nice to just kind of come back to that.
But yeah, growing up in Vegas was sick.
Yeah.
I really loved it.
That was prime Vegas time back.
then. We were just talking about it before the cameras were rolling that Vegas is just not what
it used to be. It's not. And there's too many transplants now. The 215 slammed like, God, no, I can't do
it. I've tried so hard to go back. And every time I go back, it's like, I'm cool for like the first
three days. And then I'm like, okay. Okay, I'm over it. Yeah. Like, please, even when I go back home,
like I go home, stay at the win. I don't leave the win. Yeah. That's the way to do Vegas, you know?
Let's talk about how you're a poker player. Absolutely. How did you get.
into this. I think it's hot.
I love when hot chicks gamble.
I think it's fucking. And now Tanna's doing
it too. I love it.
No, so. Tell me, take me on this whole gambling
thing. Like, doesn't it scare you to lose money?
Um, it does. But I feel like also being
from Vegas, it's in the bloodline.
Yeah, yeah. It's naturally in us.
I mean, listen, I tried to gamble one night. I was at the
Bellagio and I lost like four grand one night.
So annoying. And I was like, I want a room.
I want this comp. I want it all.
Give me the PJ back home. Literally, I was fucking so upset that I fucking threw the biggest fit.
And I was like, after that, I was like, I don't like, I'll gamble with other people's money.
So whenever I used to work, I would go and play with the high rollers.
Of course. You go sit in that high limit room and have a ball, babe. Absolutely. Absolutely.
It was okay if they lost 250 grand in hand because I didn't have to be sick about it on the side.
We're good. Slipping chips in my little. Exactly for emergency. The emergency chips. Yes. No, I get you girl.
So the poker thing kind of came about.
A close friend of mine that I grew up in Vegas, his name is Blake Wynn.
He started like a celebrity poker tournament.
And he called me one day and he was like, hey, we're doing a tournament.
It's out of 150 people.
Do you want to come play?
And I was like, you know what?
I've never played before.
I have no idea how to play.
But I'm going to say yes and I'll make this happen.
Yeah.
So I downloaded a poker.
app on my phone. I learned how to play on my phone. And within three days, I went to the tournament
and I ended up winning first place out of 150 people. That's crazy. And the poker world,
it was like unheard of. Right. Well, beginners luck. I mean, they always do. But has that
luck stuck with you? And honestly, I just got back from a poker tournament in Vegas and I'm very
proud of myself. I placed. I'm very happy with it. But yeah, poker has become such a passion for me.
Yeah. I love playing it. I love, like, especially because it's such a male dominated game. Yeah.
When they see a six-foot blonde batty come to the table, they think that you don't know how to play. You know what I mean?
Well, they're distracted by how hot you are. Thank you. I'm like, titty's up. Corset snatched.
Legs, those legs, girl. Thank you. Yeah. So yeah, I started playing more and more. And then these companies started reaching out like the WSOP, which is like the World Series of Poker, which is like the, the,
the creme de la creme of poker.
I'm sure they were looking at you and they were like,
absolutely we want her.
Right.
And the game that I had won,
it was the last two players were me and Jose Canseco.
Oh.
And I've always looked up to him in the poker space at least because I would always
see clips of him and I knew he was always good.
So even just playing with somebody like that.
I love his daughter, Josie.
Oh, I love Josie.
Me and Josie have been close for years.
She's such a good girl.
So even, yeah, playing with somebody that's like,
like a five-time poker champion.
I was so honored and I learned so much playing with him.
I hope in the future to be playing bigger tournaments.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's definitely like a fun little side hustle.
Is it like a passion now though?
It is.
I mean, it's brought in so many amazing opportunities.
Yeah.
I mean, please, I was able to go to the Bahamas with WSOP
and I stayed there for like two weeks and did a tournament.
So it's cool.
This is the fun opportunities.
and also just the new people that I've met.
I've met people from all around the world.
Yeah.
At these tournaments.
And it's just cool, especially being a girl.
Yeah.
In the, you feel very seen.
I'll tell you that.
Absolutely.
Well, I mean, you're making the sport look good because it's mostly, it's like male
dominated.
Yeah, old hags.
Straight up.
It's a male dominated sport.
So, you know.
I have to switch it up.
I'm like, I got to show them the Barbie vines.
Yeah, exactly.
So moving on from the poker.
Let's talk about this dating life.
Let's talk, babe.
So you have been.
to Kid Cutty and you guys were together for a couple years, right? We were together for a minute.
Yeah. I wouldn't say a couple years, but he had a, yeah, he made a big impact on my life. We
traveled the world together. We had so much fun. He's such a great guy. Yeah. I'm so happy for him
and where he's at in his life. He's married and yeah, he's just doing great. How did you guys meet?
And how did this relationship blossom? We met in New York City through a mutual friend. He actually
showed up to dinner one night and I was like I didn't even know who he was because I didn't grow up on
Kid Cuddy you know yeah so um I thought he was handsome and one thing led to another we had we had an
amazing relationship and he's I have nothing but amazing things to say about him he's such a solid guy
and he's so talented um yeah he's fabulous he's major he's the biggest yeah yeah I love that so let's talk
about this whole yacht situation that happened with you and Drake because I know there's so many
rumors around there that are always flying about like you and Drake, but really it was because
you were dating like one of his friends or something or were you and Drake dating?
No, that's funny because that was also like another narrative that they kind of spun. Okay,
gotcha. Yeah, let's clear it up, sister. So basically I was staying on my friend's boat and her father
had hired Drake to come to the boat and throw a party in San Chopin. Drake and Drake had never been
been to San Jose.
And so he came on the bow.
He came with his friends.
It was,
it was amazing.
He's such a great guy.
I,
obviously,
when I met him,
I was like,
oh,
this is so cool that he's,
like,
coming on our boat
and performing at our party,
you know?
But, yeah,
I feel like the narrative
that was spun was like,
I kind of stepped onto his territory
and like I,
when in reality it was like,
no, he came onto our program.
Right.
And it's funny.
how the internet likes to, you know, switch things and turn things around. Yeah, and it doesn't matter
what you say, they'll still twist it. Like, you can tell the complete absolute truth. Exactly.
And I think they just want to believe, like, the more spicier, like, whatever story.
Did you and Drake ever hook up?
I'm going to take that as a yes. Yeah. I mean, we did. Okay. And he's great. Yeah.
Would you ever, are you guys still friends or?
I haven't spoken to him in a minute.
I don't really like to speak to a lot of my like prior flings or like my or men that I've dated in my past.
Like once you lose me, I'm gone.
So he lost you.
He did indeed.
What did he do?
Give us the tea.
Oh my goodness.
I'm like, what didn't he do?
I mean he's Drake.
I know.
He doesn't strike me as a man that can have.
like a solid relationship, you know, because he's Drake.
And he's also just like so talented and so busy in what he does and lives like,
he lives such a big, fulfilled, busy life that I personally couldn't keep up with that.
Oh, it's hard.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Girl, you, you've been through the thick of it, babe.
Yeah.
I'm in it right now, sister.
No, right.
Yeah.
We'll get there.
Yeah.
Oh, and also I'm rooting for you and I'm so sorry with.
Thank you.
You don't have to say sorry.
I am free, baby.
Is it for the better?
Yes.
It's for the better and you feel good.
Oh, I feel great.
Emotionally you're good.
It took me a minute to get there, but I, it's the best thing.
But it takes time.
Time heals, but time kills, you know.
We're not talking about me.
We're talking about you, sister.
Sorry, babe.
So how long did you and Drake date?
Um, we dated.
I would say like on and off for a few months.
Really?
I would go see him in Toronto.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, um, one day I was like, I'm, I'm tired of this.
Was it just because he had other girls or was it like, was he just not honest?
Like there had to be like something that made you be like, you know what?
I don't want to talk to this man again.
I think it was, it was definitely like honesty.
Yeah.
And leave it at that.
Yeah.
And that's tough.
I mean, especially when you're dating somebody of that caliber and with that power,
when we did end things, it was very, I was very scared for my safety and for a lot of
things for a long time living in L.A.
The things he said to me were very, um, alarming at,
when I was, I was 21 or 22 at the time.
And when you hear those things said to you about coming from the most powerful artists in the world that has so much power and can do things, the unimaginable within the snap of a finger, it was very scary.
What were some of the things that he said that would scare you like that?
Because that's not cool.
You're a baby.
a baby. And I like, please, I still feel like a baby. You are. You are still a baby. 25 is a baby.
Yeah. I think I've just experienced a lot. You've lived so much life, girl. You're an old soul.
And I feel like that. Yeah. I mean, I think also moving out at such a young age and being
snapped into reality. But yeah, I don't think they want to get into specifics because I hate
bringing that stuff kind of back up. Yeah. But he is so talented. I know he has a great heart.
and I wish him nothing but the best in his future.
I hope he finds somebody that he loves and cherishes for the rest of his life.
But it wasn't me.
And it got to a point where it was almost like I physically and emotionally can't give you what you need.
So I'm going to step away.
And I kind of left it at that.
I mean, if you're saying things to scare you like that, you don't deserve that.
Well, that's where it was scary because that's almost abusive.
Especially what, like I said, somebody of that power.
Like getting text messages that he's going to have bitches fold me up verbatimly.
That's what he said.
I was like, oh, I'm going to lock my.
It was all miscommunication.
He thought I was saying something that I didn't.
Did he think you were talking to the press?
No, he thought I was talking like shit about him in L.A.
when I never was.
So that gives him grounds to say that he's going to have bitches fold you up?
Literally verbatimely.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
So I didn't leave.
I'm not kidding you.
Babe, I did not leave my house for like three months.
I didn't step outside.
Like I didn't like go out at least.
Because like I was scared because especially somebody of that power.
And I know I've grown a lot from it and I know he's grown a lot from it.
I think also during that time it was emotional for both of us because it was just like a big miscommunication.
But he is so talented.
How's his dong?
Because that's really what people want to know about.
I mean, we need the tea.
I'm like no comment.
literally we need the tea on drake's dong okay is as big as because i didn't wasn't there a
picture that got leaked of his dong somewhere wasn't his that was not his okay he's
wishes it was his and i'm going to leave it up all right sister we cleared that up all right so
drake is not packing all right okay so moving on like when i was with him and hanging out with him
he's so fun he has the biggest personality he's honestly one of the fun he's honestly one of the
funniest people I know. And mind you, I'm not his type. He likes BBL bandits. Like, he likes,
I think men like all things. Agreed. I think, listen. And they chase it all. Exactly.
But men will fuck walls. Even with me, I was very surprised that he even wanted anything to do with me
because I'm not that. How old was he when you guys were hooking up? Because he's older.
Oh, yeah, he was 36. Yeah, that's crazy. 36 and a 21 year old. I mean, he really is like,
this is great.
Just because I met his mother and I'm seeing their dynamic together.
Like,
he is a white Jewish boy.
As much as,
like,
people want to,
as much as he wants to,
like,
have this persona that he's some,
like,
hood.
Yeah.
Like,
he'll have chubs,
which is like his head is secure.
He's,
like,
such a pure
sweetheart.
Yeah.
That, like,
you would never,
the persona,
but you kind of see on the,
He's threatening you. He sounds like such a sweetheart.
No. Right. So there must be two sides to him then.
And like I said, I have, I have nothing but good things to say about him besides the fact that he scared you.
He like almost threatened me, which was scary at that age. And I know in that time I give him benefit of the doubt.
It's okay for you to speak your truth and to, you don't have to protect him. You know what I'm saying?
And I don't owe him anything. No. You know what I mean? Like it was very, I met, he came on my
friend's boat, he thought I was cute. We were chirping up a storm. I've never, I've never laughed with
somebody harder than him. He's got the humor. He has like the comedy, which I personally live for.
Yeah. But yeah, it was kind of, it was just scary. Yeah. At that age. And especially dealing with
somebody like that. Somebody that I also like looked up to. I loved Drake growing up. Yeah.
Well, they always say don't meet your heroes because. Please. Every time, and Justin Bieber is like my
number one. And I've been in rooms with him where I literally have belined it out of the room because I
because I have this
in my head where he's my number
one and I don't want that to be let down.
You know what I mean? No, I get it.
Bieber's like literally my only one where I'm like
ride or die. Yeah, you're like, please don't
fuck this up for me. Nobody's day in Bieber's name
or else I will come. Yeah, yeah.
She's a, what is it, a believer?
Yes, I'm a hardcore believer.
What is one of the weirdest celebrity interactions
that you have ever had? Oh, this is good.
Oh my God, I can say
anything. You don't have to say names.
Yeah.
No, I'll give you something juicy.
Yeah.
Because I know you've been around some crazy circles and some crazy parties.
Like you've lived a lot of lives for somebody who's 25.
And it feels like that too.
Yeah.
I think the weirdest celebrity interaction would probably be, I feel like there's some good ones.
There's got to be a good one.
What about like what's one of the most absurd things you've witnessed at an L.A.
Oh my goodness.
There's like, I mean, so there's this one party.
in LA that happens every year on Halloween.
And I've only been once,
but it's like,
they do it at this mansion.
And mind you,
I'm walking in,
I'm thinking this is just some normal Halloween party, right?
Next thing you know,
you look up with the,
each door is like a different room
and there's like brothels happening
and like just,
I mean, LA has crazy partners.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And also the thing I find really interesting,
just even in the last 10 years,
the amount of drugs,
that these kids consume.
And now there's new ones.
Like I remember when Toosy first came on the market
and I'm like, what is this pink stuff y'all are snorting?
What is two C?
Thank you.
I don't even know what that is.
I know like cocaine and drag and crack.
Yeah, cocaine.
But now there's a whole new one.
So there's a whole new one called Toosey and it's bright pink.
And now it's everyone does it.
Oh, God.
Mind you, I don't drink and I don't do drugs.
So like I've never really, I can only relate to what I know.
But from what I see at these parties,
the amount of drugs that these kids are consuming now is like, it's so alarming.
And like for me personally, I've never felt the need to have drugs or liquor in my system
to have fun.
And don't start.
I feel like I'm already a walking high, you know, with my personality and just how I am.
And I love my life.
I don't need a chase.
Well, now is not the time to do drugs, okay?
Because they fucking kill you.
You're dropping dead.
Literally.
Like, I mean, back in the day, people were dying too, but the drugs were way more pure.
nowadays you don't know what the fuck you are literally playing Russian roulette and I know like all these
kids run around with like fentanyl testers and stuff like that but if you need to do if you need to
test your drugs before doing something's already up there's that's your first step yeah that's a problem
yeah yeah my best friend died of an overdose about like four years ago and dealing with that was
because it was 4th of July and he he wanted to do a line of cocaine and boom a centimeter of fentanyl your
toast yeah and like seeing that firsthand
it's like, okay, well, what's the, what's the upside?
Where's the upside?
There's no upside.
Drugs make you feel like shit.
They make you look like shit.
Right.
And there's just,
there's nothing that is positive from doing drugs.
Except for maybe making a full of yourself and have, forgetting the night that you had.
Forgetting the night, thank you, and then doing it all over again.
It's awful.
No, I mean, I did it.
I partied whenever I was younger, but.
Like we all had our time.
Please, I used to like, I think I've gotten drunk only a few times in my life,
but I remember drinking a four loco when I was in high school and I was like,
Oh, never again.
Yeah.
This is fucking scary.
She said a poor logo.
Babe, I took a four green four local to the dome.
Oh.
Oh, so gnarly.
Are they bad?
Never again.
I've never had one.
Oh, my.
Literally, I'm like, what is it like?
It's like gasoline in a cup.
Ew.
I don't know.
Yep, yep.
Okay.
Or like those buzz balls nowadays.
It's crazy what they have on the market.
for these kids. No, I'm out of the loop. So sad. So where do you see yourself in the next year?
What are you hoping comes from doing this reality show? What are you hoping, you know, is in the next
chapter for Swade? I mean, I don't even know what I'm doing tomorrow, let alone in five years.
You sound like me. But I hate when people ask me that because I'm like, don't know.
But honestly, like I really live day by day. And I think this show was an eye opener for me. I hope that
I'm able to, I mean, hopefully, if we do get a season two, I'm down.
But the show was just like, just to kind of see where I was on the playing field in a way.
And within the next five years, I mean, I hope to build my own brand.
I eventually want my own podcast just like you.
Oh, yeah.
Let's do it, girl.
You've definitely been such a big inspiration for me for sure.
Oh, I appreciate that.
But, yeah, I mean, five years, I'm going to be 30.
I hope to have a, I want children.
That was my next question.
I mean, if I could get married enough, if I could have children now, I would.
I'm at that phase in my life where I'm ready to settle down.
There has been somebody in my life for the past like year and a half on and off that I really do care about.
Is it somebody we know or?
It's somebody you know for sure.
Really?
100% and he's your fucking neighbor, babe.
Give us a hint.
I don't want to say any name.
Say his name and we'll bleep it.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
I love that.
So, yeah, he's a great guy.
No, he's so sweet.
I fucking love.
I love.
Does he know you're coming on the podcast?
He did.
I told him this morning.
He's like, no fucking way.
Aw.
I love him.
I know.
I'm sad because he's actually leaving today.
I was going to, I was like, fuck, I wouldn't come.
It would have been so much fun.
But yeah, he, I mean, even him.
He definitely got me through all that Gemma stuff too.
Yeah.
He was the first person I called.
Yeah.
I'm like, what the fuck do I do about this?
This girl's going online.
Same things.
Please, Jason, bleep that every time we say that.
that he has dealt with so much shit online
that he was probably just like,
thank you.
But that's why he was the first person I reached out to
because I was like,
I know you've gone through hell and back on the internet.
Okay, so how does that work with the dynamic?
Because you are so fucking tall.
Yeah.
So not.
I mean, he's not short.
I'm six foot.
He's probably like 5.11.
Like we're the,
we're like pretty much the same life.
But when I'm in heels, I'm like six two.
Yeah, yeah.
Six three.
You're like a tall glass of water.
No.
No, I've stood next day.
him before plenty of time.
So I know.
Yeah.
So he's pretty.
I mean, I feel like, I mean, I'm always taller than him no matter what, literally.
But, yeah, no, he's like literally my favorite person in the world.
I love that.
I hope you guys really do settle down because he needs a good woman.
And I feel like you're a good woman for him.
Yeah.
I think he also is dealing with some demons that he still needs to get through to that I just
can't relate to because I've never been through like addiction and things like that.
But yeah, he was.
He's definitely somebody I would marry and have children with.
I love that.
Would you be willing to move to Nashville for him?
Maybe on and off.
Maybe like back to board.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, this is my first.
So he's definitely my first round draft pick right now.
And we'll see.
We'll see where it goes.
Like I said, I'm not putting any pressure or anything on it right now.
But I think also like he's getting to that age where he needs to like look in the mirror and be like, oh shit.
Yeah.
Well, he's how old?
He's fucking...
He's 47?
Yeah, yeah, I was going to say he's older than I am.
So, yeah.
So I'm like, babe, you don't have time.
Seriously, let's figure it out.
You're like, before you start fucking shooting dust balls...
Right.
Yeah.
Right, let's go.
Another than that.
Seriously.
You're going to have to get his fucking sperm tested.
I know.
Yeah.
Because dudes, you know...
Please, you never know these days where that thing...
Well, no, but I mean, his age, they start...
I know.
That's just shooting blanks at a certain time.
Also, when you're that eight, like I said, when you're 47, I'm like, is it still alive in there?
What are we doing?
Have you guys had sex?
We have.
Oh, okay.
I was like, then yeah, that it should work.
But the sperm.
But still, yeah, exactly.
I'm like, it could be stale, babe.
Yeah.
It's just like, pooh.
He's like literally shooting powder blanks.
Yeah, let's definitely bleep his name out.
Of course.
Of course.
Just for like his sake and my sake.
But yeah, that's something that I like keep off the internet and I don't plan on.
Please do.
Because people will.
Like, I want to pop out with a wedding and be like, surprise, bitch.
Yeah.
Aw, I'm rooting for you guys.
Yeah, he's so great.
And yeah, he's just, he's literally the best.
And he's been through like so many situations that I've gone through, like just problems and negative things.
He's really gotten me through a lot of that.
So, yeah, he's, he's my little, my number one at least right now.
I like that.
My number one draft pick.
Yeah, I love that.
My first round draft pick.
I love it.
Swade, I have had so much fun sitting here with you.
I feel like I could talk to you forever.
My vaguest bat.
I'm telling you, baby, we're bonded for life now.
No, it's deep-rooted.
And I hope that I can come back.
Anytime.
And also you're moving to L.A., which, thank God.
Yes.
So we're going to have to all go out and just have fun together.
You're going to have a phone.
Because I don't know what I'm doing.
I've been out of the game for so long, sister.
I will show you the spots.
Yeah.
I've been out of the game for so long.
So you guys got to.
Oh, we're going to put you on the map.
Help a sister out, okay?
It's the least I could do.
Well, don't you shout out where everybody can find you, like, your socials and all that stuff.
Absolutely.
My name is Swade Brooks.
You can find me on pretty much any social media besides WhatsApp because I think WhatsApp is crazy.
It's weird.
That one's just a weird one.
Yeah, my name's Swade Brooks.
You can find me on all social platforms.
And this is the Dumb Blonde podcast.
Yes, sister.
Love you so much.
Thank you so much.
Of course.
And thank you guys for turning into another episode of Dumb Lawn.
I'll see you guys next week.
Bye.
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