Dumb Blonde - TBT: Bam Margera

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

This week, legendary skateboarder and Jackass star Bam Margera gets candid about battling addiction and embracing sobriety. He opens up about the "Florida Shuffle" he endured in rehab, as wel...l as the legal battles we've both seen and not seen reported in the news. Bam also reflects on life after skyrocketing to fame with Jackass in the early 2000s. Joining Bam for the raw conversation is his model fiancée Dannii Marie, to share her own perspective on their chance meeting in LA and travels across the country together that have brought them to this new chapter.Bam Margera: IGWatch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:03:54 and now hosts the podcast Dun Blom. Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child. And here we are. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers. Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today we have the one, the only Bam Margera and his girlfriend, Dani
Starting point is 00:04:15 Marie. What's up guys? What up? I know. So excited to be here. I think she says the F bomb more than me. I do. I am constantly cussing. My favorite word. People get so mad at me. They're like, why do you say fuck? I said because intelligent people cuss. It's what we do. Yeah, I love it. It's like my favorite word. When I heard your first podcast, I'm like, Oh, this is gonna be fun. I don't have to think before I say that word. I love that. What have you guys been up to? Brown? What have you guys been doing? We've actually been on the road.
Starting point is 00:04:42 We met eight months ago and about six of the months we've been all over the place. Texas, New Mexico, Florida, South Carolina, Indiana made our way down here. And we've been enjoying the road trip. We have two dogs and and soon we'll be making our way to California. But we have been booking a lot of comic cons and horror cons just because, you know, we've been doing so well at them and I've been in treatment for the longest Florida shuffle you could call the Guinness Book
Starting point is 00:05:11 because it was like two and a half years at $660,000. Yeah, we're gonna get into that later because I did research a little bit of that and I'm telling you right now, I preach it on my podcast nonstop. The mental health system in America is fucking broken. Whacked. Especially in Florida.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah, it's so bad. I want to let everybody know at home that since you've walked in here, you've literally had a smile on your face. And that makes me happy because you know. Why wouldn't I? Look at this eye candy. Dude, when you were, I was hitting on her when you walked out. I was like, hey baby, you are fine, girl.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yes, we are. Fine girls in here. You manifested her, though. I heard on on her when you walked out, I was like, hey baby, you are fine. Yes we are. Fine girls in here. You manifested her though. I heard on an interview that you manifested her. Tell me about that. Well, I was pretty much, I checked into the Sunset Marquis in Los Angeles right on Hollywood Boulevard.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I was just over everything. I have five lawsuits, a custody battle that is never ending. I'm just spending all my money on that. I just got three of my credit cards stolen and they all racked up 20 grand on each one. The last one was a stripper from, from experiment rhino who racked up 20 grand in a nightclub at one night. How do you do that? That means every valet don't know those guys, but I'll pay for them.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Don't know that crew, but I'll pay for their bottles. How? 20 grand in one night at one nightclub. Come on. Well, I worked at a strip club, so that's very easy. You can get all your girlfriend's drinks and there's the 20K. So when I checked in, I got a whole bunch of drugs and I was like, I really just don't even care to wake up. And if I do, F you God. So the next morning I'm like, man, I'm awake. Fuck. I'm like, all right, I'm going to go to the pool bar. You better do it. God, you better deliver me the hottest eye candy. I want a tan pit bull and a cup
Starting point is 00:06:55 tits. Because my prior girlfriends, they always talked me into buying these fake boobs and they were always rocks. They always say that they'll settle down within a year and then three years goes by. I'm like, they're still rocks. I want to chop them off. They didn't massage them properly. Yeah, so when I went to the pool bar, I ordered a drink, of course,
Starting point is 00:07:15 and I overhear somebody talking, listen, I'm 43 years old. I was born in Jersey. I'm Sicilian and Irish. I'm like, and I look over, I'm like, wow, who's, Sicilian and Irish, I'm Sicilian and Irish. I was born in Philly over the bridge. Who are you? She's like, I'm a New Jersey, I'm Sicilian and Irish. I'm like, and I look over, I'm like, wow, who's, Sicilian and Irish, I'm Sicilian and Irish. I was born in Philly over the bridge, who are you? She's like, I'm a stretch coach.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I'm like, and she's like, I have to go home and walk my dogs. I'm like, what kind of dog? A tan pit bull. I'm like, thank you, God. I've been saved. And I was on a mission. And you know, the doctor told me in 2013
Starting point is 00:07:41 that my legs were like dry-routed rubber bands from alcohol abuse, and he was pretty much like, good luck trying to skateboard again, which is what my passion was. I've been pro since I was 17 and because of that it just made me drink more. So when I met her she's like, don't listen to him at all. I stretch you an hour a day and you're going to get your legs back and sure enough they're like a hundred percent again every day. First thing, first thing we do is stretch, walk the dogs, and then I'm out looking for a skate spot. Yeah, that's what I heard. What was your first impression of this hot mess over here?
Starting point is 00:08:09 A hot mess. We were actually looking at photos today. I don't even, I mean, it's so hard to even say how it connected, but it was, I was invited by somebody who I didn't really know, but it was the Hollywood scene, you know, and later found out but it was the Hollywood scene, you know. And later found out it wasn't the best crowd, but I showed up by myself.
Starting point is 00:08:29 My friend Heather, call her out, she couldn't make it that day, but that's okay. I went alone and, you know, I didn't know anybody. And she sent me this text that was like, celebrities are here, I hate that, of course. My mom's like, well, I'm literally fighting myself because I lived in Koreatown, couldn't find parking, it was I'm literally fighting myself because I lived in Koreatown. Couldn't find parking.
Starting point is 00:08:46 It was a disaster. So to leave your house in Koreatown is a big deal. You have to take an Uber. It's just a nightmare. Anywhere in fucking LA is a nightmare, dude. So I'm like, is it really worth going? She's already dropped a celebrity name. Who knows if whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:56 So my mom's like, well, you didn't go to LA to stay in bed. Blah, blah, blah. So she put a little firecracker in my ass. So I got dressed, put on my little LA hat, and then I went to the pool party. And of course, how some girls can be, they weren't being very friendly once this one and I started talking.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I do remember I'm kind of coming over, but I was alone, blindfolded, and just wasn't really wanting to date at the time. I just got out of something really shitty. Did you know who he was? I remember they were like, Bam Margeris here. I'm like, bam. I'm like, you know, they like, Bam Margeris here. I'm like, bam. I'm like, you know, they're like, oh, jackass.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I'm like, OK. But we are the same age. So it wasn't like I was really watching it every day. Right. I hate to bring up ridiculousness, but how it's constantly on the TV. You know, you can't get away from it. So I knew, but I didn't really know the whole story.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Hype of fam. Right. So when we interacted, you know, the whole story hype of bam. Right. So when we, when we interacted, um, you know, uh, the girls as they know who they are, had kind of like pushed me towards him because they weren't being bullish, but they weren't being friendly because the one girl had taken a shower with him the day before. Oh, so did you even remember that bam? Yeah, okay. Cause he was fucked up. So you gotta ask, Cause I did a lot of shit when I was fucked up that I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So basically they just- His face is turning three shades of red right now. I don't think I've ever seen you blush. He admitted it. I mean, he at least he told me and I'm like, okay, well, are y'all like dating? Because I'm single it's LA, like whatever. And I just, we just had fun.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Like we ended up going, I can't even tell you where. It was just some little place in LA. It was like a strip club of some sort that was completely packed. Were you using then or were you sober? No, I haven't. Okay, so we'll get into all that, but I was a drinker. I mean, I've had my share of things.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I've been a model since I was 14, so I've definitely partied. Lived in Vegas, lived in LA. Same, same. But for me, I won Miss Bikini. I went through, OK, so 2019, I had an ankle surgery, which was mortifying. I lost my 14-year-old dog. And then a almost 10-year relationship
Starting point is 00:10:52 ended all within a year. So I went through a really bad time. I was drinking a little too much, started drinking more. And then I started getting sick, literally sick, and in the hospital. I was getting alcohol poisoning is what was happening. And I just didn't want to tell anybody that I knew when I was throwing up what was happening.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Because you're like binge drinking. Yeah, it was just like, you know, Rosé starts at 10 AM. And then before you know it, it's 8 o'clock at night. And you know, it's just. Sounds like a good time. Yeah, bad. I was going down a bad, bad path. I was getting, after the breakup,
Starting point is 00:11:19 I hung out with the wrong guy. He was younger than me. And I started doing bad things again. And then just really nipped it in the butt and just had to break up with a lot of people. So I ended up entering a bikini contest and didn't realize how intense it was, but I was already in it, I couldn't pull out.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I wanted to, because it was like, I'd rather just have another cocktail and go, whatever. So I ended up placing fifth, and I stayed serious that whole four months of training for the bikini. So once I started to get away from the alcohol, I just quit completely. So I really haven't been drinking since 2021. But when I went out to LA, it was like a couple drinks here and there.
Starting point is 00:11:57 But then I, you're not drinking a couple drinks will get you buzzed. So that was the day like I was in a fit mood, fuck it mood, whatever. So I was drinking at the pool that day. And we had a great time. The connection was obviously there because as a person, and alcohol helped me kiss him a little bit, a little make out bandit. We were FaceTiming Jessica.
Starting point is 00:12:17 She's still committed to the gym at 5 AM the next day, dropped a 40 pound weight on her, tell her I broke that gym. Oh my god. I like shattered the toe. And then I wake up the next day and I'm like, damn, I think I made out with Bam. I woke up, the dogs are like, where were you for seven hours?
Starting point is 00:12:34 So I'm feeling rough. And then I remember wanting him to call. I really wanted him to call. And I was like, oh, it's already 4 o'clock. He hasn't called yet. That's weird. So something inside told me to take a shower, which I did. And I'm laying in Koreatown. And of course, the phone rings. and I was like, oh, it's already four o'clock. He hasn't called yet. That's weird So something inside told me to take a shower which I did and I'm laying in Korea town And of course the phone rings and he's like not for my phone because the stripper stole it. Yeah my credit card
Starting point is 00:12:52 So I called randomly from a number that had South Carolina area code, which is where she's from. Yeah I grew up in Charleston. So I'm like, where are you? Bam got his his stolen, his phone stolen. Yeah, he was in hot mess that weekend. I don't even know if you know this, but then I saw this psychic lady who basically told me to be a yes man, say yes to everything. So I'm going to see my shop. Don't tell Bam that.
Starting point is 00:13:20 No, that's enough. I pull in with the Bentley to this gas station in Vista, California, because my phone died and I didn't know how to get to his house, so I had to charge it in the gas station. So as soon as I pull up these M13 gangsters with their tattoos, faces, everything, they go, yo, you banned from Jackass? I'm like, yeah. They're like, can we get a photo? I'm like, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:39 They're like, can we sit in your car and get a photo? I'm like, yes. They're like, yo, man, this thing must be fast. Can we go around the block and whatever? I'm like, yes. So then we go around the block and we're cracking jokes and I park at the gas station knowing that my phone's still charging and I'm like, hang on guys. I leave the car running. I'm like, I got to go get my phone. They're like, all right, cool. So I go in and I'm like, hey ma'am, can I get my phone? She's like, I gave it to your friend. I'm like, what friend? I'm from Pennsylvania. I don't have any friends
Starting point is 00:14:03 here. She's like, I gave it to somebody. But I'm like, what friend? I'm from Pennsylvania. I don't have any friends here. She's like, I gave it to somebody. But you gave my phone away? I was forced to call 911. So three cop cars pull up and I guess they were all laryed up on whatever, but they thought it was for them. So they took my car as the police show up, not knowing that it's for me and my phone. It had nothing to do with them. This guy just got out of jail for five years for guns and drugs and apparently he had guns
Starting point is 00:14:24 and drugs on him. so he took my car. I walk out, there's three helicopters in the sky and I hear from Officer Bentley, I'll never forget. Bentley's been crashed in the house. I'm like awesome. And I didn't wanna press charges because I don't need these guys after me. I tagged that I'm at the Vista skate park.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Next thing you know I'm driving by shooting. So, ate the cash on that as well. Oh well. Oh I had no idea about that so. Why does why does why do you think this shit happens to you all the time Bam? Because I listen to a lady say yes to everything that day. There has to be some level of discernment in your gut though you got to be like no maybe I shouldn't be riding around with these guys you know. I don't understand that one. It was just like, she just said it. So the first thing that just say yes to everything, yo, Bam, can we get a photo? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:10 What was her point in this? I would love to talk to her and just be like, what was your point? Do you think telling Bam Argera to say yes? She's one of the ones who spent 20 grand on my card. Oh my gosh. Was she a stripper psychic? No, she was a psychic.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And then the stripper was next and then a buddy. Was the psychic in the strip club? He had a tiny bill. No, it was not. Totally unrelated. Then my buddy was recording at Sun Studios in Memphis at Elvis's place and he had a small bill to pay like three grand. So I gave him my credit card information because the label was going to pay it back. He gets so drunk that night that he spends 2020,000 on sunglasses and jackets on my card and doesn't remember doing it.
Starting point is 00:15:49 It sounds like you're surrounded by a lot of people. He was. And he's so broke. I think he has a payment plan of like $50 a month, which will take eternity to pay off. Well, that's why you're attracted to Bam, because Bam is funny all of the time. It's never a dull moment with him.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And it was like that, people always, he's not drinking anymore, but he's just elevated and it's just funnier, not that we want him drinking, but he's not like a bad drunk. I mean, he's fun, he just gets funnier. So that's where the attraction definitely happened. I mean, who doesn't love a guy or a girl or whomever you're with that makes you smile
Starting point is 00:16:25 Oh, I love funny. That's why I married my husband Yeah so like he just I just we died rolling all night long and I just remember like really wanted him to call the next Day and then once he called and said do you want to go for pizza at the Rainbow Room? I'm like the rainbow of his pizza. He's like, it's the best. That's Jay's favorite fucking place So forever in LA, I'll call you guys. Because Jay, last time for the Grammys, he went and rented out the Rainbow Room and got shit faced and then swam in the pool.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Or swam in the fucking fountain at the fucking Beverly Hills, whatever the fuck we were at. So on our first date, I really wanted to know, but I was just doing small talk. I'm like, I just gotta know how are your teeth so perfectly? Wait, she's like, because I brushed my teeth with your dick. I'm like, rock and roll, I how your teeth so perfectly. She's like, because I brushed my teeth with your dick. I'm like, rock and roll.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I love you. That was after he had tortured me in a funny way for two days. I know how to handle somebody like you and your fucking. Yeah, I was like, I can keep up with you. It was cute. It was just like the rainbow moon pizza. And then honestly, Bunny, it just, I never left. That's how it happens.
Starting point is 00:17:21 That's how Jay and I were. Once you meet that soul partner, that soul connection, it's just like fireworks. And you guys are just together. I was in my turmoil of being over it. I was ready to just check out. I didn't care unless I knew she was the runaway. And I asked what happened to her.
Starting point is 00:17:36 She's like, I had to flee the scene in Miami. I was dating a professional baseball player. It was very abusive. And I just packed up the dogs. And I just hit the road. And LA was my destination and um, You know, he saw a photo of like us and us weekly holding hands and a little tablet thing with a purple dress on he's like I'm coming out there. I'm gonna find you and like hunt you down and this
Starting point is 00:17:57 I believe that he died of a fentanyl overdose in texas on the way here Oh my gosh, so she just knew that if she stayed in that relationship, it was not gonna end well that relationship it was not gonna end well. How long were you guys together for? It was it was you know what if we ever write a book it'll just be the booty call gone bad. Oh fuck that's the worst. The first guy slept with in nine years so it was just like. Wait you didn't have dick for nine years? I was with somebody for nine years. Okay gotcha gotcha okay I was like wait a second how did that work? But he was like the first after the X. So it was just, he was a professional baseball player and he just was, rest his soul,
Starting point is 00:18:30 because we don't want to send bad energy in the air. But he was like dating multiple women who one of them are not friends with. At the funeral, all the girls were like, who are you and why are you here? Well, for how long? Nine months, what about you? Nine years, what about you?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Two years, what about you? Like there's nine girls. That's how athletes are, though. Athletes, musicians, that's the whole game that they play. I'm surprised it didn't wind up being one big bra with a bunch of chicks. Yeah. He doesn't understand. Sometimes the world doesn't understand
Starting point is 00:18:58 that I wasn't really happy in LA, though. Because if you go back to LA, no offense to LA. I love LA. I lived in LA when I was 19 to 20. Yeah. And it's just changed. I always tell everybody Los Angeles has lost its sparkle. It really has. It really has. Back in like 10, 15 years ago, that place was fucking just like
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Starting point is 00:23:19 If you're one in Los Angeles, you are just simply trying to make ends meet until your big break of becoming a model or an actor or whatever it is. And everybody's so fake that I just did a test with a friend because we were at a party. I'm like, just watch this. Yo Ben, what are you up to? Oh, I'm actually got to do Jimmy Kimmel because Jackass 2 is coming out, which was true. And they're like, dude, we got to work together. Next person that comes up, yo Ben, what are you up to?
Starting point is 00:23:42 I actually just flew myself out here with my own money and I'm kind of looking for work. You got anything going on? They're like, good talking to you, pal. Like, if you're up to something, they all want to be a part of it. And if you're not, then it's just, it's really fake town, is what it is. No, it is.
Starting point is 00:23:56 It is. It's definitely gone down the drain in the past few years. So let's circle back to how are Phil and April doing? How's your relationship with them? Well I just realized that right now it's just a good time to just back off and and time because they were a part of the whole treatment thing. Like I got a guardian just like Britney Spears and her only answer to everything was lock me up and throw away the key, put them in treatment, put them in treatment. And I knew that that was not the way. That's the Lima girl. Yeah and like Lima. Yeah and her last client Amanda
Starting point is 00:24:36 Radd, she faked the autopsy report. They did research and found out that she died in the care of her own hands of having a seizure. And I've never had a seizure in my life until I met her. I went into five of them in a row and the last one I couldn't breathe on my own. I woke up eight days later on a fucking life support tube with COVID and pneumonia. That's wild. So like all I knew is I had to once you get Marchman acted or Baker acted, it usually happens in Florida. That means that you have to do 90 days in treatment. And if the interventionist knows that you have good insurance, they will find reasons to keep you there for eternity.
Starting point is 00:25:10 So I'm like 88 days in and I'm like I get to in two more days. I get out hip-hip-hooray. Then he walks in he's like you've been rocking those same shorts for like three days now. I'm like, yeah I'm not trying to get any pussy around here. I don't care. They're like, that's bad hygiene. You're doing another 90 days at another place. Then I'll do 88 days at another place, flick the cigarette out into a bush. They filmed it smoking like any cigarette would smoke. It was not on fire.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Like, you could lit the whole National Forest on fire. You're doing another 90 days at another place. They just kept doing it and doing it and doing it. It's called body snatching, basically. Straight up body snatching. It's the insurance. They just toss you through. Yeah. And I realized that there's nothing that you could do to's the insurance. They just toss you through. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:45 And I realized that there's nothing that you could do to get out this. They will find you. Oh, yeah. Once you're in the system, it's a fucking rabbit hole. So I did everything right. And right now, we're going to keep you here for another 90 days. For what?
Starting point is 00:25:55 I've done everything you've asked. I've been here for 2 and 1 half years. Get me the fuck out. And when I did get out, I appreciated life a lot more. I'm like, I'm in a car. It's a convertible. There's the beach. I'm in a car. It's a convertible. There's the beach. I'm in a fucking Starbucks outside talking to you.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Or just the music. They can't even hear music. I was in the music. I had no interweb, no fucking music, no TV. A little bit of TV, but it was just terrible. Well, let's rewind. So you feel like April and Phil had something to do with the, was it a
Starting point is 00:26:25 conservatorship that you had yeah I guess guardian at light em but but did they hire this so basically she got hired from from Nikki's brother they all teamed up on me and said that he needs to go away for a long long time they talked my parents into it by like saying uh yeah uh 500 thousand dollars is a lot of money but if you don't write this check you're gonna be real sorry when he's six feet in the ground you know making her my mom feel really bad about it so she just got talked into this and then Lima has such a nice voice that she could pretty much con anybody into anything. Is she an interventional what do they call those people? She tried to like create rehabs and stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:06 If you look up her, I try not to talk about her too much because she's listening to everything and I don't care if she hears me today, it's about time she does. But it's if you're speaking truth. I would have been dead if I would have kept doing what she was making me do. And she was making me say things like,
Starting point is 00:27:18 I was in the longest Florida shuffle. It's a fact, it's called a shuffle. She's like, man, there's no such thing as a Florida shuffle. You have to do a statement saying that you didn't know what you were talking about and I really went on she like forced me To do it like hey guys I know I was talking about the Florida shuffle, but I don't know anything about it or what I was talking about And I was not in the Florida shuffle whatsoever lies. How did she get like I was definitely in the fucking Florida shuffle I was in 13 different treatment centers at 90 days apiece and one of them was doing it 20
Starting point is 00:27:44 It's called a shuffle. They kept me in there. For why? For no reason. I already know that alcohol is good and it's not any bad. What do I have to do with the next class? Learn that alcohol is bad and it's not any good. I'm very aware of that. What are you going to do when you get out? I'm going to sip on a white clog because fuck all y'all. So Nikki and her brother hired this girl. Yeah. Okay, this woman. And she came in and pretty much just took over your life. Completely.
Starting point is 00:28:11 5150, do you? The answer to everything is, yeah, 5150 me. And what hurts the most is that this chick, very good friend of mine, BJ Investigates, it's also called the Surprise Witness, she does a podcast. That Surprise Witness. She decided to buy every 911 call of me or that I've done and body cam footage, every document, every house I bought and sold, every car. She just
Starting point is 00:28:35 wanted everything. Why? Because she just wanted to find out the truth. She knows that something shady was going on. And when we looked at the body cam footage, my Aunt Missy, my mom, they were all in on it. I'm like hiding in a hotel, and then all of a sudden the police show up. I'm like, are you in on it? My mom's like, bam, I have no idea. I have no idea about it. Then as soon as I get handcuffed and taken away,
Starting point is 00:28:57 she's talking to the cops like they fucking arranged this. Well, the Aunt Missy, or whoever she is, was like, tell them I'm not here. When you watch it, you'll cry. I can't watch it because it shows betrayal from family and I can't watch it. I was crying through like the third one and BJ is a very good friend of ours. They don't like her because she's speaking the truth. And she's uncovered things that he was too fucked up to realize.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And you can't deny physical body cam proof, which is what she has, and documented proof. So she doesn't, BJ doesn't know what she's talking about. Yes, she does because she's documented in the court of law. She's a lawyer. She's a lawyer. Yeah. So, okay, circling back, I'm sorry I had to cut you off in such a crucial moment, but that betrayal has got to be fucking traumatic. Yeah. And if my mom is able to say that for a whole year, she's like, bam, I swear I had no idea about it. And then a year later, BJ got the body cam footage. I'm like, what do you have to say about this?
Starting point is 00:29:55 Well, bam, we didn't know what to do. It's like, but you lied to me for a whole year. I think you even swore on your whatever's life. You know what I mean? Yeah. Were you using a lot then? No,, you know what I mean? Like. Yeah. What were you using a lot then? No, because I was in treatment for two years,
Starting point is 00:30:08 but as soon as I would get out, the first thing I wanted to do was that, because I had no reason to stop. My kid has been taken away from me and they have no plans on arranging me a visit. I'm paying rent for my girlfriend's place. And I said, if you move to Burbank near your brainwashing brother, I'm leaving rent for my girlfriend's place. And I said, if you move to Burbank near your brainwashing brother, I'm leaving you for good.
Starting point is 00:30:27 So I'm like, I'll move to anywhere with you in Phoenix on the planet except there. So I sent the money. I'm like, congratulations. I heard you got a place. Where is it? She's like, Burbank. I'm like, all right, I'm leaving you.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And she thought that I was fibbing, but like, the only reason that made me me stop, right here. She gave me the perfect ultimatum, her puss wire, the vodka. I really like vodka, but I'm not gonna go with that. I'm gonna go with the first option. And her stretching an hour a day is so effective. Anytime I was sore back in the day,
Starting point is 00:30:56 I'm like, man, I'm sore, I need a massage. I should have got a stretch coach. I just wanna go back to like the, just because the family and everything, because we could talk all day, we all probably have ADHD in this room, but I the thing that I just noticed when we got together is And I'm gonna say it because this is the honesty day today is I've never had a chance to talk to the world so what I experience in the beginning would be devastating to me because
Starting point is 00:31:20 Whatever issue you have your family supposed to be the ones that you can count on and your friends because whatever issue you have, your family's supposed to be the ones that you can count on and your friends. So when you see a situation like Brittany and Bam, it's the money. I worked for a piece of shit who was in the Florida shuffle. His name's Joe McBrattney.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I dare him to come for me. He owes me $900. But he was in the Florida shuffle and he was sleeping with these girls. I'm a very- What was he? I- He was an owner of a rehabilitation center.
Starting point is 00:31:48 So the definition of the Florida Shuffle, where Bam was, which his parents seem to be in denial at times, is that they will just take you and then say you and I have one. It's like, hey, Bam's about to get out, so let's get him fucked up. So they would let the girls- Yeah, because if they let you out and you have a couple days left, they're hoping that you relapse so they could keep you for another 90 days for insurance purposes. So they would let the girls go out.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And then say, I'd say, hey, Haley's over on 10th Street in Delray. Go get her. And then you would keep her for 30 days. And we would split the $100,000. And that's how it goes. And that's what he was in. So when you have someone like our men here that have money,
Starting point is 00:32:22 it's just a constant shuffle. So when I saw some of the body cam, I was like pretty disturbed that people that were calling my phone, brand new, trying to get a hold of him that I'm realizing don't want to call me either, right? Because they just wanted to get to him. There's just a lot of facts out there that show
Starting point is 00:32:38 that they just wanted to keep him there. And if he wouldn't have met me, he'd either be dead or he would have just been in the floor to shuffle. For sure, and these places are so shady that I had a roommate named Big Ben and an ambulance took him out at three in the morning when everybody was asleep and they pronounced him dead. And I woke up and I overhear everybody saying like, hey, where's Big Ben? He left. And all the staff members were like, oh, he moved along to a different facility. I'm a different facility.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah, the fucking morgue is deader than shit. They pronounced him dead when I was sitting next to him. That's gotta be traumatic too to you. But this whole place is trained. They taught everybody to say that he moved along to a different facility. Yeah, the morgue is dead. That's gotta be traumatic also,
Starting point is 00:33:20 having your roommate die right next to you. They put me in. I had to go in under jackass rules with Paramount that I go to treatment and pay for it. So I'm going in on Adderall and alcohol, which I had a prescription for, and I go in, I'm on more drugs than I've ever had. I was a fucking zombie to the point
Starting point is 00:33:38 where I couldn't even cry or cum. They put me on fucking, Bipropion, Propanolol, Lithium, Latuda, Trazodone, Cquil, every well buterin and habilify known to man but but you could say like, Hey, bam, you're a cat. Oh, my cat died neat. You know, hey, uh, Angelina's over there naked and she wants to have at it. Oh, she does cool. Like I was just numb. I had no feelings whatsoever. I was better out at the fucking Irish bubs cracking jokes on add cracking jokes on alcohol rather than all that shit.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Do you feel like they keep people overmedicated in these places so that they can control them? Of course. Of course, that and the doctor probably gets a big kickback on writing all these prescriptions. If you leave on nothing, then they lose a client. Yeah. Oh, he's good to go.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Well, looks like we don't need him anymore. No, they want you forever to be on their shit. They farm with poison. What did it do? Nothing. They said, they diagnosed me with manic bipolar and then they said, are you depressed? I go, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:34 If I am depressed, it's because I'm now too, I'm top heavy and I can't skateboard how I used to. So they give me all these new prescriptions and I'm eating salads in there and I'm like gaining weight. I'm like that's it. So I type in depakote number one weight gaining pill, xyprexone, number one weight gaining pill. I'm like doc why would you give me a weight gaining pill if I told you I'm depressed because I'm heavier than I'm supposed to be? He's like well it's an antidepressant. Well if I keep getting fatter I'm gonna be fucking more depressed you hee-eyed. They
Starting point is 00:35:03 literally just give you a pill for everything. That's why I won't take any medication. I barely even want to take a leave like around my period because it just fucking, medications are just, they're like a band aid and they don't fucking help. They don't heal you. If anything you get strung out on them or you are dependent on them for the rest of your life. Exactly and I did learn this, the interventionist Steve Timmer was on the body cam footage. And if you tell the police, don't listen to a word he says. He's schizophrenic. If you say he's schizophrenic, you could be like, hey, police, if you look right there and just lean your head over,
Starting point is 00:35:37 you will find a dead body. Yeah, you're not. No, no, no. Just take two steps and take a look. Yeah, you're schizophrenic. You don't know what you're talking about. Like, no, just fucking take two steps and fucking look like they just do not believe anything as soon as you say schizophrenic. Don't believe a word. It's actually one of the body cams you can hear one of the cops go. He's about to go in the room. That's when I can't watch it anymore. His friend Paul was on the phone now that I'm very good friends with Paul. Paul said it was devastating. But you can hear the one cop go, oh, he's just schizophrenic, don't worry about it. Like it's something in that manner of like, don't pay attention to anything he says.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Did they diagnose you with schizophrenia? He doesn't even know. No, no. He's like, he's only something. I think Steve Timmer, the interventionist, just wanted to see me get arrested and go back to a mental institution. What are your-
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Starting point is 00:38:20 which would be every 90 days, they'd be like, they have you on this, that, and the other thing, and this, this, this this what kind of cocktail is this we've never seen anything like that I'm like they said that they were the best of the best no we're the best of the best and you're gonna be on this that and the other thing now and switch it up then I go to another place they beg what did that place put you on this is the craziest cocktail I've ever seen I'm like well they said they were the best of the best and that place that was the best of the best said that they sucked I'm like you're all fucking idiots
Starting point is 00:38:44 minus the only one that wasn't an idiot that we just happened to run into, how angels come back around, is his, and I'm gonna say her name, is Anne Marie. We were just in Doylestown, Pennsylvania, and she hasn't seen this person in so long. And there's a table we usually set out with the Duffs. The Duffs, this is Ed Duff rides for Tony Hawk,
Starting point is 00:39:02 and Pamela Duff is where we were staying. She was just sitting there, I'm like, what? My therapist, what are you doing? She was there for a different thing. She's your original therapist? And she was the only one that I listened to and loved. Everybody else, you know, and that's another thing. I just spilled my guts to a whole new therapist out of,
Starting point is 00:39:20 I had 13 therapists in the past two years. So it's like, here we go again. I got to spill my whole guts out to every another person and get nowhere because I'm just going to leave again and they're going to give me another. OK, you be quiet for one minute. So she basically, we just ran into her though. So she was one of the only ones that told me personally
Starting point is 00:39:39 that she didn't want to do what companies were making him do, the paramount thing and everything. That she didn't want him on all those things, so they didn't like her because she wasn't following the poisonous rules. So somehow they lost contact. We're going to meet Pamela for dinner. We walk in this restaurant to go to Pamela's table,
Starting point is 00:39:57 and she's sitting there. She's in this beautiful pink suit. I'm like, who's this bombshell? Where's Pamela? And then they're almost crying because they haven't seen each other in so long. So I just want to say like there was one good one but she was too good to make it
Starting point is 00:40:10 because they want good to go away. They want to feed the system. So if I stopped taking the 18 medications then I don't get the five million that I usually get on a jackass movie because I broke my contract. So I stopped taking it. They're like, looks like you broke your contract.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I'm like, well, yeah, what's the point? What's the point of getting five million dollars if I'm dead? Yeah, because that's what was going to happen. I kept taking that. But if you read about Britney, they say how they open your mouth and make you swallow the pills. I just show my time. So it was like they're making. Didn't you have to like sit on FaceTimes with them and take your medication every day all fucking day only to get up to piss or go to the refrigerator?
Starting point is 00:40:47 And I would just go back to bed. I was like basically just dead inside. They did it to him again recently when I went to go pick him up. That's like another part of the family like and now that I can talk about it, you know, everyone is aware that it happened fast but when we started dating and then we had our one first fight ever and he was like I'm going to no boot and bang bowl. I was like, you are? Don't do that. I think I like you. So then I met my best friend, Heather, and I'm like, do you really think
Starting point is 00:41:11 he's going to go to Nobu and do that? She's like, I don't think so. And then two hours later, he's like, bam, knocking on her door, LeBray in Hollywood. And I'm like, all right, we're dating. It's over. Don't do that again to me. I'm stressed out.
Starting point is 00:41:21 But when he had to go to court was when it was a reality check. He asked me, will you fly to Pennsylvania with me and go to court was when it was a reality check he asked me will you fly to Pennsylvania with me and go to court it was a really big deal but I didn't know that he wasn't coming back so they kept I didn't know either so so it was because I had a little time tiff with my brother I lent him Castle Bam to turn into a recording studio he got Princess soundboard from Paisley Park and and and I knew that I would be in treatment and and once I got out I was gonna go to California to hike with the Shaman to lose all his weight So I came home didn't think that I had to make an announcement that I'm coming home because it's my home
Starting point is 00:41:57 So instead of like hey welcome back. It was more like so when are you leaving fuck use when I'm leaving So we got a little tiff about that I read his phone on a three-way conversation with the people that were working in the studio at my house saying we did not know Bam would be home he's ruining our program we need to get him back to California ASAP or 5150 and for no reason just to not so I ripped off the first thing I saw which is sign Billy Idol guitar and and either smashed it with him or on the kitchen whatever and then I told his girlfriend
Starting point is 00:42:26 Who was trying to rescue a cat she fell off the ladder and shattered her heels So I said I'd put a bear trap on her other foot Knowing that I don't own a bear trap and I certainly didn't fly in with one So I got a terroristic death threat charge of a bear trap and I put my fucking hand in one and jackass too And it didn't even break so cool your goddamn jets everyone It's gotta be so hurtful that the people that you're supposed to love you the most seem to be so against you It's almost like they're just just it's the little things that piss me off villa valo from him is my favorite band So I have a big a picture right as soon as you walk in
Starting point is 00:43:00 there's a Piece of cardboard duct taped over his face with like a, you know, just super disrespectful and then I just bought Phoenix a little blue Lamborghini car, special car that I left because when I got arrested on the manhunt when they called the police on me to 5150 me, I left that car there because I got locked up. He could have just put it right in the house. It got so sun dried that it's gray. It's not even worth giving it to him anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:26 What is your relationship with Nikki now? There isn't one. Yeah. The lawyers, she, she lawyered up with a lawyer, which was completely ridiculous because we're not married. We got married. It was a fake wedding in Iceland that you, you have to be a resident there to make it legit.
Starting point is 00:43:41 We didn't know that. So thank God on that. We're, so she's trying to tell the, the lawyer that You have to be a resident there to make it legit. We didn't know that. So thank God on that. So she's trying to tell the lawyer that her name is Nicole Margera. That name does not exist on paper. It doesn't exist on the planet of Earth. So I was giving her five grand a month out of the kindness of my own heart for child support.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I'm like, I'm being more than fair. And then finally we went to court with her getting a lawyer and the judge was like, you only get $500 a month, you're not even married. So I'm like, you should have been happy with the five grand. Now I've given 200 grand to my lawyer and your lawyer wants me to pay for him too. All the money has gone to the lawyers. Congratulations. Over a matter we could have figured out in one second, when's a better FaceTime
Starting point is 00:44:20 for Phoenix, high noon on Wednesday or is Tuesday better? But they always say, we're still working on it. So if you send me another 50 grand, we'll still be working on it. Yeah, you're going to work on it for eternity till my back's right dry. So you aren't in Phoenix's life right now, or you are? It's still an issue.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Apparently, I get to see him once every weekend. But I'm fully booked with these Comic cons every weekend to pay these legal fees. It's working out, though, like they have, you know, right. Unfortunately, just to speak on the subject, I, you know, push him. I come from a divorced family. I have daddy issues right now. I'm pissed at him right now, but it'll work out. And Phoenix is so young that he just wants to see dad.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Dad's famous. so dad's busy and he's doing better than ever and he'll be okay. You know it's just getting on a schedule so they can see each other and spend time. Right now it's monitored so that's been a little hard on him but you know you got to prove to the system that you're not a nutball even though it's kind of crazy but I told him just to do his part and they're gonna be just fine. It almost doesn't even matter if a decade went by like hey do you know uh can Bam see Phoenix now because it's been ten years and he's been sober as a judge. Well he'll probably just relapse I know him you know there's nothing I could do to win on this matter and unfortunately
Starting point is 00:45:37 he's been so up and down that there I don't think that they believe this I think they're gonna fly by girlfriend and some people think I'm here for the fame I'm famous in my own way I I don't need it. You know what I mean? It's really shitty because I'm missing him grow up. Yeah. You should be skateboarding together. If I walk in the mall and I see some teddy bears or a fucking Paw Patrol poster, I'm crying my eyes out. If I even go past a playground and I see kids play, it's like, that's all I want to do, but I have to have a fucking supervised visit from the Supreme Court with a microphone on just it's like I've
Starting point is 00:46:09 been living at the Black Rifle Coffee compound with a little eight-year-old and a ten-year-old how come I get to live there and play with them all day but when it comes to my own kid I have to have a Supreme Court visit with a fucking microphone and people filming me just to make sure I don't do anything wrong what am I gonna do wrong? But my sister is not famous and she had to go through this and she just in Georgia has like and he won 51% and my sister is an angel. She has to pay child support so they have a good connection and he knows he's not alone. There's a lot of parents out there that are fighting for their kids whether you're famous and have money or broken up nothing and they're fighting for no
Starting point is 00:46:43 reason when it should just be about the child. So I support him a hundred percent. And he knows that I don't even know what school he goes to. I don't even know where he lives, even though I'm paying for it. I don't even know anything about him, what friends he has, what he even likes, what cartoons he likes, don't know anymore because everything has to go through the lawyer and it's just such a pain in the ass. Is Nikki willing to put her hurt aside and have some sort of friendship with you so that you guys can't can When a girl is scorned
Starting point is 00:47:13 Then all they see is fire in their eyes and Babylon's burning and it's gonna burn your fucking house down There's nothing you could do to save it. It's just There's it's hard and the kids young. So just, I think right now, like me personally, I just, like I said, I come from a, you know, divorce family and, you know, it's all about him and Phoenix. It's not about her. It's not about me. It's not about April and Phil.
Starting point is 00:47:37 It's about those two. And you know that everybody on her end, they're hearing her one-sided story. She's probably going around saying, bam, left me high and dry and he gives me only one-sided story. She's probably going around saying, BAM left me high and dry and he gives me only $400 a month. Yeah, I was giving you five until the judge said you're only getting four.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And I gave all my money to lawyers when I begged you not to get one because we don't need that. So it's all gone anyway. There's nothing to divide anymore. You know, the lawyers take everything. I have started from scratch and I love it that way. So now if we want to get a house, we pick out our own furniture, we do it. I like starting from
Starting point is 00:48:08 right. I've never been more happy in my life on this great adventure of just going from spot to spot, meeting new people, coming up with new deals, new whatever. It's great. Sounds like you're dating a boss bitch. I was just stuck at home in a vicious circle of the hair of the dog. I wake up, I'm like, oh, I feel like shit from drinking. But if I have a drink, I'm going to feel pretty good. And if I have another one, I'm going to feel even better. If I have a third one, I'll feel great. Next thing you know, you wake up, oh, fuck, I feel like shit. But if I have a beer, I know that it cycles from hell.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Why do they call it hair of the dog? I've never understood that. It's the hair of the dog that bit you. But why? The dog hair doesn't never understood that. It's just the hair of the dog that bit you. But why, the dog hair doesn't bite. Yeah. I like dog hair. I've never understood that saying either.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Me neither, but I use the method often in the past. It sounds to me like you have found some sort of purpose. Yes. And that's what's driving you, and that's exciting to you because even though you have done everything that you've done, it almost seems like it started so young for you that you weren't able to appreciate it exactly like a man. I mean I made my own video at the age of 16 and through word of mouth sold over a million
Starting point is 00:49:19 copies without even putting an ad in anything just mom and pop skate shops were selling it and everybody said you need to see this video. So then I did another one and then that's when Jackass found me. I was the first person ever ride for Nike and when Element put out my skateboards, they also put out BAM wallets, BAM sunglasses, BAM everything.
Starting point is 00:49:40 And when Jackass became bigger than MTV could imagine, I already had all this BAM stuff out before they could even make Jackass stuff So I was clocking mega bank and every wish that I had any goal that I set would come true quicker than my Deadline date and and I fucking ran out of goals I feel like you made Jackass though because you already had like a little mini empire with CKY Before even getting on to Jack Jack I knew who you were before Jackass you know all the fans really say that like people who really grew up with you because you raised some of us you know like we grew up with you and you were like you were pretty much like
Starting point is 00:50:14 one of the first real content creators if you think about it like really an influencer or whatever the fuck they want to call it. That's the thing living in Pennsylvania and he's the hottest that's when Tremaine and Oxville, they would be in Los Angeles making all these secret deals. Then they do a fucking documentary about how Jack Ascock created. And talking about Big Brother the whole time, and at the very tail end, probably about 5%.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Oh yeah, and then Ben was doing CKY in Pennsylvania. If you do the math, I sold millions of copies. You fucking barely sold 20,000 copies of Big Brother's video called poop and tit and fucking crap. I don't even know. I've never even heard of them. Yeah, I know exactly. I know who CKY has never heard of that. I have learned how to fucking forgive and be happy and I delete it. Anybody that's giving me a problem but I just want to take my anger out on one person. Jeff Tremaine's too much of a fucking pussy.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Knoxville get into a ring with me, take off your boxing gloves. One, two, three, you're fucking done for. So you're still really angry with Knoxville. Put me through hell, maybe pay all this fucking treatment money. And they're filming behind my back while I'm in treatment. So they already set me up to fucking fail. And then, and then as soon as I do the slightest thing wrong, I'm not in the movie. So I paid 100 grand to go to treatment only for me to fuck up. And then now I'm not in the movie.
Starting point is 00:51:34 They had it all planned out. And I think that Knoxville tried to do this movie called Action Point in South Africa, and they had a $15 million budget. He tried to do it without us and it was a fucking flop. They only made $2 million. So when that happens, the label says you're not free to go, you're either gonna have to pay this back or fucking put your house up for sale or do a jackass five. Well, if BAM's not in it, then that's already $6 million to $5 million that we don't have to pay back. So we could already say he's a fucking liability because he's drunk
Starting point is 00:52:01 out in front of a hotel room on TMZ. Yeah, well on jackass two, I got a high five for fucking good press when I got a felony charge having Brant's knuckles at the LAX Airport drunk as hell. It's all what they need from you at the time. Yeah, but now I'm a liability. Fuck you guys. I'm just going to say on that note since we skipped right forward to that, you know, it's funny how recently my DMs and phone calls and text messages.
Starting point is 00:52:24 I'm gonna let them all know right now to stop texting him. He's not answering. Yeah, and if you double dog Knoxville to do any stunt, oh, I'm so brave, I'll have to do it. Why triple dog dare? You step into a fucking ring with me, you're done for. You're over. When you say your DMs and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:52:38 who's DMing you and calling? Well, just in the beginning, I mean, I'll just say, Novak reached out, but I don't even know who he is. Right. So I don't want to get involved with their relationship. I have a 30 year friendship relationship and no one will get involved in that either. You know, so Brandon was around during the CKY days too, wasn't it? I was. And you know, I've helped him with over a dozen treatment centers. I rescued him over a dozen fucking overdoses at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:53:03 I've paid for all of his mistakes and I don't want any of that money back now that he's doing good. But like he stole my S-55 Mercedes, $125,000 car when I was in Germany, high on pills to go get more pills, wrecked into the Dean's car at Westchester, fled the scene. They tried to charge me over it until I proved I was in Germany. But he says, you always got to take a Cunabuoy for your actions. All right, well, you owe me a fucking car. You're buying your seventh treatment house in Delaware,
Starting point is 00:53:29 driving around in your Range Rover. You owe me a car. But even just recently, because I go through his phone. So anybody who's texting, I read everything, because I'm allowed to. And if I need to change the number, I will. Because there's nobody allowed but our little small circle right now of happiness.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Which is probably what's keeping him safe and sober. Yeah, I can't have any of that. And I've gone through the phone and I saw the message. I'm like, let's go to the sausage castle and you can knock me out. Aw. I'm like, I love Mike. But I'm like, and Mike Busey wasn't the one texting. But you know, Steve was asking him to like punch him.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Like we're not, what are you talking, like we're doing, he's doing great. Like you should probably want to talk to him and ask how he's doing instead of doing something that would benefit you. Or your followers. And that's why I like just putting my phone probably want to talk to him and ask how he's doing instead of doing something that would benefit you or your followers. And that's why I like just putting my phone down. I like to just focus on. Just leave him alone right now.
Starting point is 00:54:10 We spend all day every day. Like, we are such a fucking powerhouse team that she takes better photos than most of the people on Thrasher magazine. Those are all my pictures of the skateboarding. I tell her where the angle is. We get the shot. Thrasher photog.
Starting point is 00:54:22 She stretches me beforehand. And we just have have a perfect day that I don't need any fucking phone calls interrupting the flow of that. And everybody asks me, if they did another Jackass, would you wanna be? Hell no, it is done. Tremaine has ruined the legacy.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It was supposed to be a fucking tribute to Ryan Dunn. Now he puts these fucking new hee-haw heads in there. And it's just ruined. And too many balls. Like why were we stapling balls the whole time? It was very disturbing. And all he does is sit behind the camera and say get hurt in action. Poopies got bitten by a fucking shark. He could have died. And the movie made $150 million in the box office. And apparently
Starting point is 00:54:59 he got like less than 40 grand. You can't even buy a fucking Dotson with a used tire on with that kind of money. Meanwhile, yeah, you had her a Hyundai. But you had to sign a contract on Jackass for everybody could get fucked with at any given moment except for Tremaine because he's the director now because he's a fucking pussy. So circling back to Steve, I had a conversation with him the other day because he's coming on the podcast and Jay just did his podcast and I told him that you were coming on and he said that he is, I'd have to look at the text message,
Starting point is 00:55:31 but it's so much, I think he said around the, like he's hurt, he's reached out to you and he's hurt because he hasn't heard a response. I won't let him respond right now so he could be mad at me, but that's okay. Maybe when I get to know a little bit more of the situation, right now my focus is his mental health and my relationship, like I've only been with this person
Starting point is 00:55:51 for eight months and it went public kind of immediately, which I can handle, but right now, they don't know him anymore right now. This person is on a whole new chapter, this is not about counting days, it's not about how, it's about he's changed, he's turned a page. And if those friendships can survive, then that's not about counting days it's not about how you know it's about his changed he's turned a page and if if those friendships can survive then that's great but right now I love Steve oh when the time is right well we'll talk and everything's cool but I mean like I did his tour he asked me to go on
Starting point is 00:56:17 tour to do open up for his comedy show and get some money to pay some legal fee bills of the mess that I'm in. And I completed my mission, everything was a success. I didn't drink like how he asked. And then I find out that he puts all my money in a Phoenix Wolf Trust Fund when he turns 18. I'm like, I earned that money. Yeah, but we didn't want you to spend it on alcohol or drugs.
Starting point is 00:56:38 It doesn't matter. I did the work, fucking pay me. And it's not like I need your money. I have a fucking couple bank accounts. I could just go right to the store and get some but like you're not at Liberty to be starting a Phoenix the Wolf Trust Fund and he gets it when he's 18 it's fuck fuck that it sounds to me like you're really hurt and upset and tired of people making fucking decisions for you making decisions for me and I
Starting point is 00:57:01 can't even trust you know I it's just hard to trust anybody. I don't know what their fucking real agenda is. Yeah. That's tough. Yeah. That's heavy to not be able to trust anybody like that. Yeah. I always say friendships are meant to be like they will. Yeah. I mean, they've known each other for a really long time. I'm always 100% in for it. We have created such a tight bubble of friends that, that right now is, you know, we have a perfect circle of tight friends and I'm not gonna let anybody fucking dent it anymore. Right. Viva La Bam, I let in so many friends
Starting point is 00:57:29 that the bubble just bursted. Yeah. When you keep giving everybody your phone number, then you start talking, you start forgetting to talk about the important ones. There was a point where my manager, Terry Artie, was so great, he would get me fucking commercials to do right guard
Starting point is 00:57:45 for a million dollars of one day of work. And now I'm pawning off his phone calls to a friend of a friend because I don't have time to fucking answer it now, which I've highly regret doing. You know, when I look back at everything, I'm like, shit. Yeah. He had this movie. The crowd got too big.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Already for me to go, I was too hungover to make the flight. And because of that, I think that's when he was just like, you know what enough is enough. I can't I just had a lot of money on the line for you to be producing this movie in Hollywood and you were just too hung over to get on the flight. Well, I'm done. I think that circles back to doing this at such a young age and just not appreciating the opportunities because you didn't know like you literally grew up doing this. So to you it it was just like, Oh, another fucking deal. I'll get another one, you know, and you have $300,000 to spend a week for 65 weeks. That's unheard of.
Starting point is 00:58:33 They would never give somebody a budget like that. Now, that's unheard of our meetings at MTV would be fucking bonkers. It's like, so what do you want to do this week? And most people beg, this guy crazy. I'll be like, how about we paint the entire kitchen blue and then we'll have an elephant come in and we'll make the outside of fucking moat with a drawbridge. And then I'll keep wrecking Don Vito, my uncle's car until he gets fed up and drives my RIP Don Vito boom. Done deal.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Now he saves elephants. I love that. Sir, going back to you and Ryan Dunn's relationship, let's focus on that for a little bit. You guys were like best of friends. Yeah. Take me on that journey with you guys. Well, we met in, I was in ninth grade,
Starting point is 00:59:16 he was in 11th at East High School in Westchester, Pennsylvania. He just moved from Cleveland, Ohio. And he was just such a character. He was, he didn't know how to skateboard and he knew that I was making the CKY video and he became a part of the crew just because he would be the guy to do the gnarly thing
Starting point is 00:59:37 that everybody would back out on, you know, he's big. So what does everybody puts out on to get in that wheelbarrow and get pushed off of that three story building into this pricker bush? Just give me a shot of crown roll and let's get it done and over with. So he would be like, we call him random hero because he would always save the day.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And we did everything together. Anytime we did a MTV interview, he would always be right there. If I started trailing off or, you know, he would always take over. So to find out that he got in a um car accident it was very devastating because i never had anybody die that i was close to and i never knew what it felt like it was always like hey did you hear aunt audrey from pittsburgh died i'm like who
Starting point is 01:00:17 yeah we had thanksgiving dinner with her five thanksgiving all right whatever are you gonna go if you know i guess if i have to i don't. So anybody that died until then, I never knew. You never knew a pain. But then when that, it hit so hard to the point where I remember we were in, outside of Phoenix, Arizona, I was doing an appearance the next day and we were in the woods having a campfire.
Starting point is 01:00:41 You could see all the stars and I'm like, man, I am really happy right now. I couldn't be happier. Then all of a sudden I just punch out the van window and break it for no reason. And the tour manager was like, why did you do that? I'm like, I don't know. I'm just mad and I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:00:54 I just don't know why. Turns out he wrecked at 1228 in Pennsylvania and I smashed the window at fucking 928 in Phoenix. So it's like, we had such a connection that I knew something bad happened and I didn't know what till I found out the next morning. It was like he was like a soulmate. Like he wanted you to know. Soulmates can be your friends too. It's not always a romantic link. And my mom would always tell him like you get these fucking fast cars with these fast engines you're gonna get into a wreck. He's like, yeah, a fiery wreck.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And that's how it happened. He wrecked, he flipped me in a car eight times in the oncoming traffic when I was 16 years old. In school, he was doing a radio, he was installing radios. He's like, cop in the car, I got this Jetta worth going to the mall. I bet he's happy and happy that you calmed down a little bit. So we were flying 110 miles per hour,
Starting point is 01:01:44 somebody caught us off. We slid for so calmed down a little bit. So we were flying 110 miles per hour. Somebody caught us off. We slid for so long, like a football field. As soon as we hit the grass in the median, we started flipping into oncoming traffic. My brother got flown out on the last flip. He was 40 feet in a moat. I could see his feet sticking out. And when I saw him, he was just like, ugh.
Starting point is 01:02:02 A helicopter had to come get him out. I had a big softball in my head from bashing the window out on the first flip. But I gotta thank Chris Rab because he was sitting next to me and he put my seatbelt on and I ejected. I said, I'm not a pussy. And then he put it on again.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And then we flipped instantly after the second time he put it on. Oh my gosh. Do you feel like after Ryan's death is kind of when you started spiraling? Hell yeah, because I was so lost That I didn't know what to do. It's like well now we can't make a CKY video if we do another Jaguars It won't be the same. Yeah, and
Starting point is 01:02:36 Instead of like drinking as a celebration it was just drinking to forget and it became a real fucking problem And I didn't even know it I it. I was always that guy to go 90 days and be like, all right, we're going to Ruth Chris Steakhouse tonight. I could have one wine for dinner. Yeah, it might be one wine that night for dinner. But the next day, I'm going to have two. The next day, it's going to be two bottles. And then I'm out looking for drugs.
Starting point is 01:03:01 It always happens that way. And getting your phone stolen was too close. Over a baked dozen of tries to realize that. Oh my gosh. So jumping back in, do you think Bam, um, you know, all the trauma that you've been through, have you had, I know you've been to all the, did the Florida shuffle, but have you ever had any like trauma therapy?
Starting point is 01:03:21 Yeah. I mean, they put me through everything. I like a part of the, part of the jackass thing I had to blow into a soberling four times a day, I had to pay for $800 a therapy twice a week neuro feedback, same thing. Yeah, and but I think you were forced I think if you did it like on your own, I have therapy of hearing sirens when I because I was on when I was on that manhunt. It was gnarly. There's three helicopters in the sky, eight police officers circling around trying to find me through the woods. I am a professional at hopping barbed wire fences. I was scared shitless on the fourth one, but on the eighth one, I became a pro. And then I drank the Brandywine
Starting point is 01:03:58 River because I was dying of thirst. I slept in a box in a fucking house that I thought was abandoned until they pulled up and they were so terrified They come up to unlock the door They just see a pair of feet hanging out this box and all of a sudden I just jump out like a bat out of hell I just go I'm sorry I was fucking Harriet Tubman from the Underground Railroad. I had families hide me take me to a Albanian restaurant and then they took me from there hide me, take me to an Albanian restaurant, and then they took me from there. Finally,
Starting point is 01:04:33 I made it to the Jersey Shore at a buddy's house, and I was telling random people just to see how far it would go. I told my mom that I was in North Carolina just to see if that would travel anywhere. Sure enough, turns out we found out Bam's in North Carolina on a high speed chase, all layered up, because if he made it to North Carolina that quick, that means he was driving 120 miles per hour. I'm like, that was a lie that I told to my mom just to see how far it would go. Oh my gosh. I'm in Jersey, assholes. There's just so much betrayal and there's so much trauma here. And I think that whenever you're ready to sit down and kind of deal with it without
Starting point is 01:05:03 with it being on your terms, like Danny said, I think it would help you out a lot because you just are so hurt. You know, like there's just so much turmoil inside and that's why you drink, that's why you do the drugs you do is to hide and cover up all this pain that you have. And with a relationship, it's all about trust. If you don't have trust, you got nothing.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Right, absolutely. That's 100% right. And now you got yeah hell yeah we know there's no filter here so how many days sober are you now since August 1st okay so that's that's actually a good while is that the longest you've been sober well minus the Florida shuffle cuz I was forced to be right Right, right, on your own. This is you on your own. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:09:21 And you know, I need a structured bedtime schedule. I know when I'm with her, I'm in bed by 9.30. Yeah, I texted her last night at like 9.30. I woke up this morning, I was like, I missed something. We were in bed. He was already asleep. And that's why I love having the dogs because we wake up, I walk the dogs, we take care of them. If I can't take care of myself, I can't take care of the dogs. But we walk the dogs, she stretches me,
Starting point is 01:09:47 we go to the gym, then I look for a skate spot, she shoots the skate photo or films it for me, we get it done, we go get something to eat, and then I either paint or read or write or edit or whatever it is. It's a whole fun structured schedule. And Steve-O would always tell me, dude, if you just get sober,
Starting point is 01:10:03 you'll see that neat things will happen. I'm like, well, I've been sober and the only neat things that happen is nothing because I'm forced to go to treatment. I'm forced to go to AA to learn that alcohol is bad. It's not any good. I'm forced to go to therapy. I'm forced to go to neurofibre. Nothing fun is happening at all. Right. I couldn't imagine it. Could you? No. Our personalities, I could not imagine someone making me swallow a pill and put me in a room with no freaking music or my phone or you or a text. They want you to go crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:29 And I gotta say this. I mean, it's like a setup for disaster. How come the fucking FBI or no one has done research about this Amanda Rabb client that Lima, my guardian, she died under her care and she changed the autopsy. It's saying that it wasn't from what she died from. It was from a cardiac arrest seizure, which is what I started getting as soon as I met her. And it's online. So these things that are being, she tried to go after BJ. She tried, but it's all on the internet. I mean, people are now aware of her lies. People aren't still in her care, are they? Well, I don't know. They better not be. People are backing up from her. She made me talk about this neato fucking helmet
Starting point is 01:11:06 that she made. Listen to this. This is scary. And I put on this helmet, and she forced me to say how neat it is and how it helps with therapy. In one eye, you see a little fucking kitten drinking milk, and then the other eye, you see a Tyrannosaurus Rex is coming at you at full speed trying to eat you.
Starting point is 01:11:22 And she's like, which eye do you pick? I pick the kitty cat. You're on the right path. No shit, I'm on the right fucking path. Why would I pick the left eye, which is a T-Rex coming at me to eat me? So they're basically using psychedelic things to kind of trick your brain.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Right. And I went down the rabbit hole of BJ Investigates and that's how I, when he was sleeping and resting, I wanted to know and Pamela and BJ are friends and they showed me things that I started understand the system even working in the shuffle, I was familiar with it, right and then watching how they use certain tools to manipulate the brain and they can keep them. So
Starting point is 01:12:04 there's a word for it. It's a very scary, all B.J. investigates wanted to do was free BAM. She started the free BAM movement. So if you're against that, then you're against me. B.J. is a big, big deal with the free Brittany movement. So she's the one in case not just BAM, but she's uncovered the Wendy Williams recently, Casey case. I'm back in the day. Like she's someone who is speaking for those, get her on the podcast. I would, I'll definitely connect you to, um, let's not forget, this isn't just happening to famous people. This is happening to someone. Yeah. And I, well, you're, you know, I don't care. But I mean, just like you and I like sitting
Starting point is 01:12:36 in a room and your mom thinks you're okay. And you're not because the person that's in control of you is a liar and money hungry. And no, we went through this with our daughter, we had she we had to put her in a treatment center last year in September. And I researched everything because I was so scared of something like what happened to you happening to her. So it's scary. I mean, yes, mental health system is a fucking nightmare. We definitely don't want to bash the good ones. I went to Aurora mental health in Pasadena, California.
Starting point is 01:13:04 And I was just talking to the other people. I'm sorry. I went to Aurora mental health in Pasadena, California and I was just talking to the other people. I'm like, so what happened to you? He's like, I was just here for a 48 hour hold. And then they found out that I insurance and I had nowhere to go. And I've been here for fucking 150 days. Like a shell. Like it's really scary. And I can't even get on the phone and I don't even know who I would call for help. But they found I was only on a 48 hour hold and then they found out our insurance and I had nowhere to go. I've been here for 150 fucking days. I'm like, this is fucked up.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And then if you go and say you kind of need help, like we just had a friend and we're not going to name drop him, but he was going through kind of the same thing that BAM's going through with custody and he said he just had a couple bad days and he went to 51 or he went and they 51 50ed him and he had a check out he was like I don't belong here like I just I'm having some personal issues and asking for help they put him in with you know the people that really need help so it's like you're having a bad day you can't really get the help and then once you do you're labeled you're in the system and they want your money if you're in a mental institution and you're hanging out with
Starting point is 01:14:02 dudes that are fucking yelling at the trash can saying why didn't you marry me and the other one's trying to fucking French kiss their own sneaker you're in a mental institution and you're hanging out with dudes that are fucking yelling at the trashcan saying why didn't you marry me? And the other one's trying to fucking French kiss their own sneaker. You're gonna start doing that shit too over time You can't beat them join them My god BAM just hearing this stuff is just fucking wild like it is it is crazy. This is, it hurts my heart for you honestly. Yeah and the best thing to do is just to just shut your fucking cocksucker because the more you talk the more they can hold against you. My one buddy Hanifin called me for the manless and he says, Bam you don't understand I don't belong here you gotta get me out of here.
Starting point is 01:14:39 And I hear, coom coom coom. I'm like are you banging your head against the wall? He's like yeah I'm like you just bought yourself another month you idiot. Don't do that. Then you're definitely staying. Don't do that you hot air buffoon. You just bought yourself. Yeah banging your head against the wall? He's like, yeah, I'm like, you just bought yourself another month. You idiot. Don't do that. Then you're definitely that you hot air buffoon. You just bought yourself. Yeah. Bang your head against the wall.
Starting point is 01:14:49 That's a real good idea. He's actually really good in the gym too. That's what this one is giving himself benefits for. Let's talk about some good stuff. So what are you doing now? That's different. Like you're getting stretched, which I just discovered stretching this year because I too, I heard you say something that you had ripped your thing your
Starting point is 01:15:07 Hamstring I was fucking doing a tick-tock thing I fucking like was joking around and like doing this fucking stupid dance not like a genuine tick-tock dance but I was like making fun of something and snapped my fucking Achilles you know that is so painful, bro. it's still fucked up and this was on Halloween. And I fucking was like, fuck that, I gotta start stretching. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:30 And that's what I've been doing is stretching and it's phenomenal. Yeah, I thought that there was no hope for me. Like I was even, I was putting tacks in my calf muscles. Like there was a bunch of calves, my friend was like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm putting tacks in my, doing? I'm like, I'm putting tax, why? I'm like, to relieve the pain.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Oh my gosh. So like, that's how stiff they were from just alcohol abuse and all the medication of side effects of stiff muscles. It was for real, it was that painful. And one yoga guy was like, just reach down and touch your toes see if you can do that, I doubt I can. And I went and my hamstring popped right here. I was out for a year from that.
Starting point is 01:16:08 I even, when I got out of treatment, they let me skate a three foot half plate with my friend, Jeff Rasp. And I didn't even get to drop in yet. I ran up the three foot ramp and basically got such a cramp that I couldn't do it anymore. Tried the easiest trick on the planet,
Starting point is 01:16:22 looped out cause some little shit ass waxed a coping like a fucking Eskimo. And I hyper extended my elbow to the bone coming out and broke my wrist for the 16th time. And my arm still won't go straight from it. It's getting better. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:16:35 We'll straighten that shit out too. So stretching, working out, being on a regimen. Dogs. Dogs. Cause he has such a good relationship with them. That's like another thing, not to backtrack, but. Did you never have animals before? I've always had cats because.
Starting point is 01:16:49 OK, gotcha. Cat guy. Yeah, but anytime I would have a dog, I leave too much. I travel too much. So a friend would watch them. And when a friend watches your dog for a month and it's a brand new puppy, you come back and they're like, I can't give this back to you.
Starting point is 01:17:03 And you're like, I get it. Yeah, gotcha. But you know, Bam, I think a lot of his friends will say, bringing up how he has been in this world for so long, that he's always had people around him. And sometimes they'll say, gosh, I just can't believe you're letting him go hiking with the dogs. I'm like, letting him hike with the dogs?
Starting point is 01:17:22 Like, what do you mean letting him? Number one, I get a free moment to hang out and watch maybe some trash TV for a second. And then I'm thinking and learning that people have never let him be alone. Let him be a human. Let him just be in the woods. And they've kind of created anxiety for me,
Starting point is 01:17:39 which who wants that? I don't want him going, you can't go work out in the woods. It's like, who wants that relationship? So if Bam's gonna fuck up, he's gonna fuck up. He knows what he's gonna lose if he fucks up. It sounds like he's finding peace though. I don't feel like you've ever had peace your entire life. And I just like saying I let him just go do his thing. We have found such harmony, which is one thing that was like, we have such a harmonious day. Harmonious day. Harmony is what I needed. And man. Just spending time like alone with the dogs
Starting point is 01:18:08 and he takes them for hikes, like things that, you know, at 40 degree weather. Pennsylvania is very cold for me. So I'm not hiking at five a.m. with them. I don't want to. Yeah. So, but he goes and does that. And it gives them time to bond with the dogs
Starting point is 01:18:20 and it gets him, you know, they have their own little relationship, which I love. I'm starting to think, you know what, maybe the interventionist really thought that I was schizophrenic because some of the stories that I tell just seems like a nut in treatment. Like, I was telling somebody, yeah, so I shipped my purple Lamborghini to North Korea because Kim Jong-il liked sports cars and he wouldn't let me drive it around but he let me park it at the airport and then Iggy Pop played my wedding and Billy Idol cut the roof off of the Lamborghini. This guy is fucking bad, crazy, but if you look it up on YouTube you're
Starting point is 01:18:51 gonna find that shit. You've lived 20 lives. He really has. I mean the people that he knows are insane. I feel like he's talking about shipping his Lamborghini for Kim Jong-il. Nobody goes to North Korea and he probably doesn't even have a Lamborghini. Fuck you it's all true. I feel like the reason why you're so happy right now is because you actually don't have to put on a show every day. You don't have to please anybody else but yourself and Danny. And you're actually just being able to be BAM. And I think you're finding who you are now. And I have a strict diet.
Starting point is 01:19:20 The only thing I eat is mushy meat. Yeah. Well, I mean, that doesn't sound like a bad diet at all. It's not a bad diet. And I mean, I don't blame you. Sushi. It's like filet mignon over here. You know?
Starting point is 01:19:32 Filet. Filet lobster. Are you eating healthier, though, and stuff like that? Everything. Sure, Danny, how do you eat healthier? Once my leg. My body feels so good now that all I want to do is eat right. And I really don't I never thought the day would come to where I would stop because
Starting point is 01:19:54 it's always free if you're at a nightclub. You wouldn't do a bump in the bathroom? Sure. You know, and then, you know, you get really addicted to it. Not these days. You'll die in the bathroom. I've been on the ground on this rug with a fucking microscope looking for crumbs. You know what? I'm like, I'm never going to stop. It's just a matter of time I'm going to do it again.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Now, don't feel that way. You could put it right in front of me. I'll flush it down the toilet. Don't want any more. But you know, like, people always say, forget the haters online, too. Like, well, I can't believe you're fucking bad. Blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Number one, mind your business. Fuck who I want. Right. And number two, like, I wasn't going to leave him as a person. blah number one mind your business fuck who I want right and number two like I wasn't Gonna leave him as a person like I'm a good person at people person And I you know the people that I believe were connected to when you have a connection It was whether we were gonna last sexually or not or what booty call or not I still wanted to be a friend and like when he especially in Hollywood like it's so hard and to find normal people in this
Starting point is 01:20:42 World as it is But when he did have to go to Pennsylvania and we had the two days together, which people don't know, the judge gave him two days with me before I had to leave. And the attorney, because I was upset, and the attorney said, you know, you guys have to have him in by Sunday. And this was Friday.
Starting point is 01:20:58 So we had a couple of two really good days. And I remember saying, like, he just said, just don't leave me here because they're gonna shuffle me. He knew that if he stayed in the system, days and I remember saying like he just said just don't leave me here because they're gonna shuffle me like the judge knew that if you stayed in the system we weren't gonna be able to see each other what's a little tip with my brother when we went to court we flew in from California my Bentley was there parked at the LAX Airport because we thought we were coming right back we put the dogs
Starting point is 01:21:19 up and and he's like you're sentenced to stay in in Pennsylvania for three months I'm like but your honor we live in California my car is in the airport like our dogs are there and my brother lives at my house so he's like ain't my problem yes my problem it's a fucking big one so now the judge basically said tell your girlfriend to go get your car I was like what do you want me to do? float around of Motel 6s around fucking Pennsylvania all day? Why am I sentenced to be in Pennsylvania? All my stuff, I moved to California. Well, tough shit.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Yeah, it's very tough shit. So that's when you know you like somebody. Because basically, I had to fly back to LA by myself. I had a lot to think about. And then I went to my best friend Heather's house in Hollywood and La Brea. And I'm like, and his good friend Dre, a few good people were, I said, what do Ia. And I'm like, and his good friend, Dre, you know, a few good people were,
Starting point is 01:22:06 I said, what do I do? And they're like, go get him. He had eight days and he said, if you don't come get me on the eighth day, they're gonna keep me here. So basically everyone gathered, it got his, I got his Bentley, they checked the oil, they made sure it was fine.
Starting point is 01:22:17 I grabbed the dogs, Heather packed me up, Dre packed me up. Two dogs and the Bentley? Two dogs and the Bentley and me, and enough to get across. That's a fucking TV show. Yeah, it took me five days to get there. It really made me appreciate everything again.
Starting point is 01:22:30 We'll be on a road trip, and I'll just pull over on the side of the road. She'll be like, what are you doing? I'm like, just appreciating this view for a moment. Yeah. Like, you've got to understand. I was locked away. Like, the only outside I got to see
Starting point is 01:22:44 was a fucking barbed wire fence to smoke a cigarette. Brutal. God, it's like prison. And it's such a dick tease because the beach is literally right there. This doesn't feel helpful. That's terrible.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Yeah, they make it seem all nice on the brochure. It's right by the beach in Delray. Yeah, but I'm locked up and the beach is right there and you won't even let me go to it. That is so sad. So you guys are engaged now? We are. Is there gonna be a wedding? Yeah yes but we wanted to... Okay I want to be the flower girl. Okay perfect. And Jay gets to be the ring bearer. No we don't want to take it from Phoenix. We really want you know like Yellow Wolf or Tokyo Hotel or something to play during it and that's not an easy thing
Starting point is 01:23:27 because you need the lighting and the stage and all that so it's not something that's gonna happen soon. We're gonna plan this really well. Yeah, it happened, you know, it was just a fun day and then I forget that people zoom in on us now. Yeah. So I wasn't gonna take the ring off even though it was like a cute little antique.
Starting point is 01:23:42 He made me pick his hand. He's like, pick a hand. Yeah, tell me how it happened. Yeah, it was really cute. So there was this house in Pennsylvania, Mrs. Pamela Duff that they have that has a waterfall and a lot of potential to live. So to sum it up, the Duff family, Ed Duff is a pro skateboarder for Tony Hawk's company, Bird House. And me and him are friends. And when I had nowhere to go and I'm sentenced to stay in Pennsylvania and I can't even go home, he said stay with it because they own Duff Electric they have a bunch of
Starting point is 01:24:08 properties and you couldn't stay in your own house or you didn't want to so they took us in and um they had this really nice house that that they wanted to that they just owned but it it needs a lot of work and it's right on the Delaware River in this cool town called New Hope which is like this cool but you're gonna leave out a fun detail and the girls need a detail. Yeah, we need the girly details. Details, I'm a butterfly mom. I raised butterflies, I've been doing it for like nine years.
Starting point is 01:24:32 I wanna be a bee mom one day too. So I saw potential at this place. He was talking skate parks, I saw the waterfall. Pamela just would love for us to live there because she's ready for another project. And I see in the front, I'm like, ooh, that'd be a cool butterfly garden. You know, and I'm like looking around because it used to be a restaurant.
Starting point is 01:24:49 So there's a lot of potential, but could be a little crazy. So as we're like driving, which I thought when we were in the Poconos, I was in the worst outfit, this purple jumpsuit with a beanie. And he takes me to this like heart shaped hotel and I'm like, not this outfit. Please Lord, no. I was thinking like, I hope these aren't being like romantic and this heart-shaped hotel, and I'm like, not this outfit, please Lord, no. I was thinking, I hope these aren't being romantic and this heart, you know what I mean? It was heart-shaped, I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:25:12 Not looking too good, long story short, it was that night that we left that place, nothing happened. So I was like, oh cool, that was fun. So then we're driving, driving, driving, and he literally goes, oh my gosh, do you know? And it was pitch black, it was 10 o'clock at night. And he's goes, oh my gosh, do you know? And it was pitch black, it was like 10 o'clock at night. And he's like, but we were just having such a good road trip
Starting point is 01:25:27 listening to all of our favorite music. And I noticed that that was the house that we wanted to fix up and everything. So I just pulled over, got out. In the butterfly garden. I had these rings in my hand. Once I kissed her at the Dove property, I threw the rings near the waterfall
Starting point is 01:25:44 and they're still sitting in there something We haven't been back long enough to go find them again. Okay, so he proposed Pick one and then threw them. Yeah Okay, and then he like sat up against this little wall and he's like we marry me and I'm like Are you fucking around like are you kidding or whatever cuz we were like in that little butterfly garden and it was just like super cute and romantic. He knows I'm not like all blingy and need anything crazy. So it was just really fun. And I was like, well, duh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Like if you're being serious, you know, we kept it quiet for a little bit. But then of course, those little people out there got a hold of my finger and we're zooming in. So they started asking questions. I'm like, oh yeah, I guess I should say something that a really good friend of mine asked. So I told her yes. And then that's how we know Leanne with us. So you're in good hands with her because she's like, can I talk about it?
Starting point is 01:26:31 And I just looked at him. I'm like, well, I'd rather someone talk about it from us before they start talking about it. Before the rumors start. Yeah. So then I was like, all right, let's talk to her. And here we are. It's been crazy. So what does 2024 have for Bam and Danny? What do you guys have planned? I know you guys are doing all these horror cons and we're booked till like October, which is exciting. And save the world or what we skate. We say, well, I'm the big animal. Save the world or what we can of it tour. So like he skates and I'm like, check,
Starting point is 01:27:00 you know, we were in New Orleans and the people are just walking over the pit bull. I'm an all glam. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm going to cry. I'm like, check, you know, we were in New Orleans and the people are just walking over the pit bull. I'm in all glam. And I'm like, I'm gonna cry, I'm gonna cry. Glam's gone. I'm like holding the pit bull. He was all broken. And everybody walking past the dog, like he's just searching for food, starving to death. They just like, look at,
Starting point is 01:27:16 they didn't want anything to do with it. And she gets out, she's all done up like this because we have to go to a horror comic con. I just picked the dog up. And we're in the ghetto at the skate park under a bridge. They were probably like, who is this chick that just pulled up in a purple fucking Bentley to save this dog with fleas all over?
Starting point is 01:27:32 Don't care. But then, you know, the skater community, people don't understand how rad they are. So these two rad chicks come over. They're like, do you need help, these skater chicks? And I said, well, I just called the SPCA. And she happened to have a 561 number, Westong me I had the same area code so she scooped them right up took them out of hell and it's just it's a good balance because I'm not a skateboarder but I can kind
Starting point is 01:27:56 of fit in anywhere and you know the skate parks we go to unfortunately aren't very you know they're not in the best areas so you you see a lot. And you can always find weed there. Well, yeah, true. But you know, you see like the cats and the dogs. And it's sad because to bring up the world we live in, everyone wants to play pickleball and tennis and basketball when the skate parks are like in the middle of bad places that you really don't want to take your six year old after five o'clock.
Starting point is 01:28:20 So those are the places that we're hitting up and opening my eyes to this world needs to change. We'll be sitting there fucking playing and shit. I'll be like, I thought the rule is no phones. Hold on. I'm saving a goat from fucking Idaho right now. I'm like, give me that. You really are doing that. Yeah, we have like a phone thing, but I'm like, hold on. I have to pledge on this elephant real quick. That is hilarious. It's true. I'm like, most of the time I'm on my phone. I'm just yelling at the mayor of LA or screaming with PETA. So what are you true. I'm like most of the time I'm on my phone, I'm just yelling at the mayor of LA or screaming with PETA. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:28:49 I'm calling 911. Why? Peddling with ducks. Cause this guy got arrested for trying to save dogs to get the trespass charge. Yeah, what's up with that Wayne situation? Wayne and Zoe Rooster, you're gonna see. Hopefully the Today Show here soon.
Starting point is 01:29:00 They're ready. I love that. I wanna tell you guys, when Jay and I first got together, we immediately went out on tour and it's the best bonding experience for a couple. It will either make or break you. You guys are either meant to be together or not. Once you guys are in a car, fucking traveling all the time,
Starting point is 01:29:17 like working together, that's when you really figure out what you guys are about. And you fall in love fast because you get to know somebody so personally and so quickly. And there's a lot of things that I didn't know. Yeah, I love that. You know if we show up in Indiana and I have a bunch of friends there to do a Comic Con and we're only there for two days like she'll be like, I know you guys got to see him and I'm sorry but we're having fucking date night tonight because you know I'm like cool.
Starting point is 01:29:37 You know I never had the courage to say that. I'm like it's 8pm, it's over. Everybody come along to date night. I'm like it's 8pm, we're done. He's like, another hour? Nope. I'm in bed by 10. Date line's on. I need Keith Morrison.
Starting point is 01:29:49 I think he needs you because nobody has ever really been able to tell you no. Or like, I don't even know if the word to. I think it's you guys run wild together. You just have more structured wildness. Structured wild. In LA, I'm sitting in the hotel. It's 10 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:30:04 And it was like, you have tamed the Apollo. I'm all sick. I'm like, Apollo? What does that supposed to mean? You've tamed the Apollo? What do you mean? You've got me in bed by 10. I'm very impressed. You've tamed the Apollo. And then you really just go to sleep, but you don't have sleeping problems or anything? You've gotten a lot better.
Starting point is 01:30:19 No, I was always on so much Tresden and Syracuse, and I thought I needed that to sleep. But at the end of the day, I'm so exhausted from skating and going to the gym and having such a fun, productive day that I sleep on time. Are you 100% sober? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Like a raw dog in life? Just a couple puffs of weed. Yeah, I mean that's sober to me. Yeah, that's sober to me. And he has a medical card, people, relax. Yeah, I don't think weed, there's a, everybody has a different definition of sober. I'm completely straight water and skateboarding is my medicine. I don't know about the other day. They're like, well, then you're not 100%
Starting point is 01:30:50 sober. There's different levels like he's fine. There's California sober and their straight edge. I'm straight edge. My husband's California sober. He'll drink and he smokes weed all day. You know, so some people have to have a vice, you know, I would love to have a vice but my anxiety the way it's set up, I can't. So it's like I have to just eat my seaweed for me is something that just levels my brain out. So that's why I'm never going to call it vagina vagina again. It's strictly pussy. Yeah, that's that's that was the word of the month when we first started dating
Starting point is 01:31:19 at the restaurants. I was like, can we not say that? 4pm. He'd be like, is her pussy meat on the menu? I'm like, oh my god. I'm just going to go to the bathroom. Oh my god. Shock value. That's what I'm after.
Starting point is 01:31:33 You know how to handle it. I think you guys are fucking adorable. And I love seeing him so happy. That really makes me happy to see him just smiling. Yeah, learning like the fan. You guys and the fans that have loved him so much are teaching me where he really was. I mean, I knew he had some things going on.
Starting point is 01:31:48 But the best part about working with him and seeing, helping run the show and make sure he's downstairs and the fan. I say hi to them. Most of the time, they've been really nice to me. I know it's just the trolls. His fans that are in line are very sweet to me. They're not coming up.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Bam's iconic. They're not coming up trying to spit in my face or whatever. But they're teaching me so much about him. And I love all the people that are coming up and saying that you're helping them get through recovery, or they're just so proud of you to be back on the skateboard. It's amazing to see the skateboarding community. They're so stoked to see him back on the skateboard.
Starting point is 01:32:19 There's so many people rooting for you. I'm learning what a bad ass skateboarder he was. You have to watch all the CKYs. You have to make her watch. Can we slumber one day and do that? You have to watch them because then you'll really. She's eating like bits and pieces. I see bits and pieces.
Starting point is 01:32:31 The last one she saw, she's like, so hold on. Ryan Dunn was drunk at the bar in Westchester. I saw that one. He's like all drunk. He's like, if we were in Iceland tomorrow, I would have gone off that 40 foot waterfall. I'm like, but you didn't last time because you whooshed out. Yeah, but we're there tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:32:47 I was doing this right here. Next day he wakes up and I'm like, you signed the contract. And I bought eight tickets to Iceland. He's like, son of a bitch. So we get there. We didn't even scope anything out. I found a random ass barrel on the side of the road, sealed it up, pushed him off head first by accident.
Starting point is 01:33:02 She's like, I'm like, you did that to Ryan. I'm like, you pushed him. What if something bad happened? I'm like, we really didn't think about that. We're fucking. I looked down on what that was. So you guys are crazy. What's your relationship with Billy Valo now? It's good. We saw him at his last tour in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:33:20 We went up with Jimmy Pop from the Bloodhound Gang and. Oh, I love the Bloodhound Gang. It was a fun day. I love the Bloodhound Gang. It was rad catching up with him. Quiet, quiet, quiet. You know, the last time, the first time he went to treatment, we were at the Chateau Marmont and we just got a deal signed for him to be on Warner. They got a really good deal and he was drinking a lot and he knew I had a prescription to Adderall and he kept asking me for one and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:33:49 dude, I've given you enough and he's like, I'm like, you know what, just because it's you, I'm not gonna say no. So he like started hyperventilating and an ambulance came and that was the first time he went to treatment and I think Warner Brothers found out that I was the one that had my prescription that he kept asking for which kind of sucks because you know I didn't drink at all. I didn't drink till I was well 23 years old and all that and and when I was hanging out with him
Starting point is 01:34:17 in Helsinki Finland I was so mesmerized by just how rad he was that when we stayed in the same hotel together he opened up the mini bar and cracked open a beer I'm like you're just drinking in the day I thought people only do that at nighttime. He's like I'm like I'm not gonna let you do it alone so that was the first time I've been introduced to like day drinking and tables turned to where I'm the fucking bad. When did you start using drugs? Probably about, tell the truth, I'd say 24 or 25. That's wild. I would have thought it would be so younger. We were in Davos Switzerland doing this thing called the Winter Jam for MTV. Sum 41 was playing and this band called Guano Apes and
Starting point is 01:34:58 Jackass was there to host the whole thing and I remember we were staying at this nice hotel in the Alps and somebody like started putting these lines out on the table. And that was the first time I tried it. And I had a massage booked right after that. I'm like, Oh God, I got a massage. All right. If everybody else is doing it, I'll do it. I did it. I was getting a massage like, Oh, I can't even relax. God, I couldn't imagine my first fucking bump a coke and I'm getting massage. Yeah, I would go crazy. There's no way but
Starting point is 01:35:29 never terrified of a needle never messed with heroin or anything. I was surprised. What's the hardest drugs you've done? Probably just method coke anything upper. Yeah, like shocking. I don't know why people would do heroin or Valium and show up to a bar and fall asleep into their beer. It makes no sense. Yeah, I used to be one of those. I love the dope fiend lean. Yeah Xanax was my shit And Nicole I used to call myself like I would only take that if I was on like an airplane Yeah, but man you have one beer on a Xanax. You're fucking Larry. Oh lit. Just lit. It's a party
Starting point is 01:36:01 There's the closet problem. I appreciate you guys coming on the podcast and I look forward to seeing you guys just blossom and I really feel like this is a new friendship for all of us. My husband loves you and I love you. So yeah. I already told Jen and Jessie. Yeah. We need to, us three can be on the bus and you guys can get your own bus. Are you guys gonna come see us on tour? We are. For sure. San Antonio. Yay. Yeah, come to a show.
Starting point is 01:36:27 We always have so much fun. And the girls have their own bus. The boys have their own bus. And I know all the band would love to see you guys. And I'll steal Melissa. I want to let them know Melissa, Quinn, Michael Quinn. They love you. So the boys will be together.
Starting point is 01:36:40 We'll steal her. Melissa actually manifested this. I love her. She's been saying that you and I would get along great. And that was literally two days later. I had your phone number. I'm like, this is crazy. I love it.
Starting point is 01:36:51 They'll be with us in San Antonio. I'm so happy that we were able to work this out. Are Jenny and Jamie in it? No. Well, hopefully Jenny can come. But Melissa and Michael will go meet her then. Yeah. Well, thank you guys for coming.
Starting point is 01:37:01 You want to shout out your socials? So I'm sure everybody knows where to find you. But you guys go ahead and. They know me, Dan Marie Official. They are there. I'm talking Captain Creamstain or Captain Crumbly or something. I'm good. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Just save a dog. Just Google Bam Margera. You guys will find everything. I think maybe the fans are realizing, they wanted to see me every now and then. But I'm just going to blast them with shelter dogs. So please, a dog. Yeah, I watched your story the other day.
Starting point is 01:37:23 It was all dogs. I was like, I love this girl. I go through my moments where I'm like, shoo, shoo, shoo. Hello, hello. And I'm like, calm down. Everybody wants to give shout outs and plugs, everything. I give a plug to Curiosity Donuts from fucking Doylestown, they're awesome.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Yeah, I love that. They only open on Wednesdays because they make them so fresh. Oh my God, we'll have to try it on tour. We'll go on tour. We'll literally say Bam recommended this and do a whole tech talk on it. Thank you guys so much for coming. I appreciate you. Thank you guys for tuning into another episode of dumb blonde.
Starting point is 01:37:57 I'll see you guys next week. Bye.

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