Dumb Blonde - TBT: Bam Margera
Episode Date: February 20, 2025This week, legendary skateboarder and Jackass star Bam Margera gets candid about battling addiction and embracing sobriety. He opens up about the "Florida Shuffle" he endured in rehab, as wel...l as the legal battles we've both seen and not seen reported in the news. Bam also reflects on life after skyrocketing to fame with Jackass in the early 2000s. Joining Bam for the raw conversation is his model fiancée Dannii Marie, to share her own perspective on their chance meeting in LA and travels across the country together that have brought them to this new chapter.Bam Margera: IGWatch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors
and lawyers and shit.
And I was like, I want to be super hot,
make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife.
That was my goal as a child.
And here we are. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers. Welcome to another episode
of Dumb Blonde. Today we have the one, the only Bam Margera and his girlfriend, Dani
Marie. What's up guys? What up? I know. So excited to be here. I think she says the F
bomb more than me. I do. I am constantly cussing. My favorite word. People get so mad at me.
They're like, why do you say fuck? I said because
intelligent people cuss. It's what we do. Yeah, I love it.
It's like my favorite word. When I heard your first podcast, I'm
like, Oh, this is gonna be fun. I don't have to think before I
say that word. I love that. What have you guys been up to? Brown?
What have you guys been doing? We've actually been on the road.
We met eight months ago and about six of the months we've been all over the place.
Texas, New Mexico, Florida, South Carolina, Indiana made our way down here.
And we've been enjoying the road trip.
We have two dogs and and soon we'll be making our way to California.
But we have been booking a lot of comic cons and horror cons just because,
you know, we've been doing so well at them
and I've been in treatment for the longest
Florida shuffle you could call the Guinness Book
because it was like two and a half years at $660,000.
Yeah, we're gonna get into that later
because I did research a little bit of that
and I'm telling you right now,
I preach it on my podcast nonstop.
The mental health system in America is fucking broken.
Whacked.
Especially in Florida.
Yeah, it's so bad.
I want to let everybody know at home that since you've walked in here,
you've literally had a smile on your face.
And that makes me happy because you know.
Why wouldn't I?
Look at this eye candy.
Dude, when you were, I was hitting on her when you walked out.
I was like, hey baby, you are fine, girl.
Yes, we are.
Fine girls in here. You manifested her, though. I heard on on her when you walked out, I was like, hey baby, you are fine. Yes we are. Fine girls in here.
You manifested her though.
I heard on an interview that you manifested her.
Tell me about that.
Well, I was pretty much,
I checked into the Sunset Marquis in Los Angeles
right on Hollywood Boulevard.
I was just over everything.
I have five lawsuits, a custody battle that is never ending.
I'm just spending all my money on that.
I just got three of my credit cards stolen and they all racked up 20 grand on each one.
The last one was a stripper from, from experiment rhino who racked up 20 grand in a nightclub
at one night.
How do you do that?
That means every valet don't know those guys, but I'll pay for them.
Don't know that crew, but I'll pay for their bottles.
How?
20 grand in one night at one nightclub. Come on.
Well, I worked at a strip club, so that's very easy. You can get all your girlfriend's drinks
and there's the 20K. So when I checked in, I got a whole bunch of drugs and I was like,
I really just don't even care to wake up. And if I do, F you God. So the next morning I'm like,
man, I'm awake. Fuck. I'm like, all right, I'm going to go to the pool bar. You better
do it. God, you better deliver me the hottest eye candy. I want a tan pit bull and a cup
tits. Because my prior girlfriends, they always talked me into buying these fake boobs and
they were always rocks. They always say that they'll settle down within a year
and then three years goes by.
I'm like, they're still rocks.
I want to chop them off.
They didn't massage them properly.
Yeah, so when I went to the pool bar,
I ordered a drink, of course,
and I overhear somebody talking,
listen, I'm 43 years old.
I was born in Jersey.
I'm Sicilian and Irish.
I'm like, and I look over, I'm like, wow, who's,
Sicilian and Irish, I'm Sicilian and Irish. I was born in Philly over the bridge. Who are you? She's like, I'm a New Jersey, I'm Sicilian and Irish. I'm like, and I look over, I'm like, wow, who's, Sicilian and Irish, I'm Sicilian and Irish.
I was born in Philly over the bridge, who are you?
She's like, I'm a stretch coach.
I'm like, and she's like, I have to go home
and walk my dogs.
I'm like, what kind of dog?
A tan pit bull.
I'm like, thank you, God.
I've been saved.
And I was on a mission.
And you know, the doctor told me in 2013
that my legs were like dry-routed rubber bands
from alcohol abuse, and he was pretty much like, good luck trying to skateboard again, which is what my passion was. I've
been pro since I was 17 and because of that it just made me drink more. So when I met
her she's like, don't listen to him at all. I stretch you an hour a day and you're going
to get your legs back and sure enough they're like a hundred percent again every day. First
thing, first thing we do is stretch, walk the dogs, and then I'm out looking for a skate spot.
Yeah, that's what I heard.
What was your first impression of this hot mess over here?
A hot mess.
We were actually looking at photos today.
I don't even, I mean, it's so hard to even say
how it connected, but it was, I was invited by somebody
who I didn't really know, but it was the Hollywood scene,
you know, and later found out but it was the Hollywood scene, you know.
And later found out it wasn't the best crowd,
but I showed up by myself.
My friend Heather, call her out,
she couldn't make it that day, but that's okay.
I went alone and, you know, I didn't know anybody.
And she sent me this text that was like,
celebrities are here, I hate that, of course.
My mom's like, well, I'm literally fighting myself
because I lived in Koreatown, couldn't find parking, it was I'm literally fighting myself because I lived in Koreatown.
Couldn't find parking.
It was a disaster.
So to leave your house in Koreatown is a big deal.
You have to take an Uber.
It's just a nightmare.
Anywhere in fucking LA is a nightmare, dude.
So I'm like, is it really worth going?
She's already dropped a celebrity name.
Who knows if whatever.
So my mom's like, well, you didn't go to LA to stay in bed.
Blah, blah, blah.
So she put a little firecracker in my ass.
So I got dressed, put on my little LA hat,
and then I went to the pool party.
And of course, how some girls can be,
they weren't being very friendly once this one and I
started talking.
I do remember I'm kind of coming over,
but I was alone, blindfolded, and just wasn't really
wanting to date at the time.
I just got out of something really shitty.
Did you know who he was?
I remember they were like, Bam Margeris here.
I'm like, bam. I'm like, you know, they like, Bam Margeris here. I'm like, bam.
I'm like, you know, they're like, oh, jackass.
I'm like, OK.
But we are the same age.
So it wasn't like I was really watching it every day.
Right.
I hate to bring up ridiculousness,
but how it's constantly on the TV.
You know, you can't get away from it.
So I knew, but I didn't really know the whole story.
Hype of fam.
Right.
So when we interacted, you know, the whole story hype of bam. Right. So when we, when we interacted, um, you know, uh, the girls as they know
who they are, had kind of like pushed me towards him because they weren't being
bullish, but they weren't being friendly because the one girl had taken a shower
with him the day before. Oh, so did you even remember that bam? Yeah, okay.
Cause he was fucked up. So you gotta ask, Cause I did a lot of shit when I was fucked up
that I don't remember.
So basically they just-
His face is turning three shades of red right now.
I don't think I've ever seen you blush.
He admitted it.
I mean, he at least he told me and I'm like, okay, well,
are y'all like dating?
Because I'm single it's LA, like whatever.
And I just, we just had fun.
Like we ended up going, I can't even tell you where.
It was just some little place in LA.
It was like a strip club of some sort
that was completely packed.
Were you using then or were you sober?
No, I haven't.
Okay, so we'll get into all that, but I was a drinker.
I mean, I've had my share of things.
I've been a model since I was 14, so I've definitely partied.
Lived in Vegas, lived in LA.
Same, same.
But for me, I won Miss Bikini.
I went through, OK, so 2019, I had an ankle surgery,
which was mortifying.
I lost my 14-year-old dog.
And then a almost 10-year relationship
ended all within a year.
So I went through a really bad time.
I was drinking a little too much, started drinking more.
And then I started getting sick, literally sick,
and in the hospital.
I was getting alcohol poisoning is what was happening.
And I just didn't want to tell anybody
that I knew when I was throwing up what was happening.
Because you're like binge drinking.
Yeah, it was just like, you know, Rosé starts at 10 AM.
And then before you know it, it's 8 o'clock at night.
And you know, it's just.
Sounds like a good time.
Yeah, bad.
I was going down a bad, bad path.
I was getting, after the breakup,
I hung out with the wrong guy.
He was younger than me.
And I started doing bad things again.
And then just really nipped it in the butt
and just had to break up with a lot of people.
So I ended up entering a bikini contest
and didn't realize how intense it was,
but I was already in it, I couldn't pull out.
I wanted to, because it was like,
I'd rather just have another cocktail and go, whatever.
So I ended up placing fifth, and I stayed serious
that whole four months of training for
the bikini.
So once I started to get away from the alcohol, I just quit completely.
So I really haven't been drinking since 2021.
But when I went out to LA, it was like a couple drinks here and there.
But then I, you're not drinking a couple drinks will get you buzzed.
So that was the day like I was in a fit mood, fuck it mood, whatever.
So I was drinking at the pool that day.
And we had a great time.
The connection was obviously there because as a person,
and alcohol helped me kiss him a little bit,
a little make out bandit.
We were FaceTiming Jessica.
She's still committed to the gym at 5 AM the next day,
dropped a 40 pound weight on her,
tell her I broke that gym.
Oh my god.
I like shattered the toe.
And then I wake up the next day and I'm like, damn,
I think I made out with Bam.
I woke up, the dogs are like, where were you for seven hours?
So I'm feeling rough.
And then I remember wanting him to call.
I really wanted him to call.
And I was like, oh, it's already 4 o'clock.
He hasn't called yet.
That's weird.
So something inside told me to take a shower, which I did. And I'm laying in Koreatown. And of course, the phone rings. and I was like, oh, it's already four o'clock. He hasn't called yet. That's weird So something inside told me to take a shower which I did and I'm laying in Korea town
And of course the phone rings and he's like not for my phone because the stripper stole it. Yeah my credit card
So I called randomly from a number that had South Carolina area code, which is where she's from. Yeah
I grew up in Charleston. So I'm like, where are you?
Bam got his his stolen, his phone stolen.
Yeah, he was in hot mess that weekend.
I don't even know if you know this, but then I saw this psychic lady who basically told
me to be a yes man, say yes to everything.
So I'm going to see my shop.
Don't tell Bam that.
No, that's enough.
I pull in with the Bentley to this gas station in Vista, California, because my phone died
and I didn't know how to get to his house, so I had to charge it in the gas station.
So as soon as I pull up these M13 gangsters with their tattoos, faces, everything, they
go, yo, you banned from Jackass?
I'm like, yeah.
They're like, can we get a photo?
I'm like, yes.
They're like, can we sit in your car and get a photo?
I'm like, yes.
They're like, yo, man, this thing must be fast.
Can we go around the block and whatever? I'm like, yes. So then we go around the block and we're cracking
jokes and I park at the gas station knowing that my phone's still charging and I'm like,
hang on guys. I leave the car running. I'm like, I got to go get my phone. They're like,
all right, cool. So I go in and I'm like, hey ma'am, can I get my phone? She's like,
I gave it to your friend. I'm like, what friend? I'm from Pennsylvania. I don't have any friends
here. She's like, I gave it to somebody. But I'm like, what friend? I'm from Pennsylvania. I don't have any friends here. She's like, I gave it to somebody.
But you gave my phone away?
I was forced to call 911.
So three cop cars pull up and I guess they were all laryed up on whatever, but they thought
it was for them.
So they took my car as the police show up, not knowing that it's for me and my phone.
It had nothing to do with them.
This guy just got out of jail for five years for guns and drugs and apparently he had guns
and drugs on him. so he took my car.
I walk out, there's three helicopters in the sky
and I hear from Officer Bentley, I'll never forget.
Bentley's been crashed in the house.
I'm like awesome.
And I didn't wanna press charges
because I don't need these guys after me.
I tagged that I'm at the Vista skate park.
Next thing you know I'm driving by shooting.
So, ate the cash on that as well. Oh well. Oh I had no idea about that so. Why does why does why do you think
this shit happens to you all the time Bam? Because I listen to a lady say yes to everything that day.
There has to be some level of discernment in your gut though you got to be like no
maybe I shouldn't be riding around with these guys you know. I don't understand that one. It was just like, she just said it.
So the first thing that just say yes to everything,
yo, Bam, can we get a photo?
Yes.
What was her point in this?
I would love to talk to her and just be like,
what was your point?
Do you think telling Bam Argera to say yes?
She's one of the ones who spent 20 grand on my card.
Oh my gosh.
Was she a stripper psychic?
No, she was a psychic.
And then the stripper was next and then a buddy.
Was the psychic in the strip club?
He had a tiny bill. No, it was not.
Totally unrelated.
Then my buddy was recording at Sun Studios in Memphis at Elvis's place and he had a small bill to pay like three grand.
So I gave him my credit card information because the label was going to pay it back.
He gets so drunk that night that he spends 2020,000 on sunglasses and jackets on my card
and doesn't remember doing it.
It sounds like you're surrounded by a lot of people.
He was.
And he's so broke.
I think he has a payment plan of like $50 a month, which
will take eternity to pay off.
Well, that's why you're attracted to Bam,
because Bam is funny all of the time.
It's never a dull moment with him.
And it was like that, people always,
he's not drinking anymore, but he's just elevated
and it's just funnier, not that we want him drinking,
but he's not like a bad drunk.
I mean, he's fun, he just gets funnier.
So that's where the attraction definitely happened.
I mean, who doesn't love a guy or a girl
or whomever you're with that makes you smile
Oh, I love funny. That's why I married my husband
Yeah
so like he just I just we died rolling all night long and I just remember like really wanted him to call the next
Day and then once he called and said do you want to go for pizza at the Rainbow Room?
I'm like the rainbow of his pizza. He's like, it's the best. That's Jay's favorite fucking place
So forever in LA, I'll call you guys. Because Jay, last time for the Grammys,
he went and rented out the Rainbow Room
and got shit faced and then swam in the pool.
Or swam in the fucking fountain
at the fucking Beverly Hills,
whatever the fuck we were at.
So on our first date, I really wanted to know,
but I was just doing small talk.
I'm like, I just gotta know how are your teeth so perfectly?
Wait, she's like, because I brushed my teeth with your dick.
I'm like, rock and roll, I how your teeth so perfectly. She's like, because I brushed my teeth with your dick. I'm like, rock and roll.
I love you.
That was after he had tortured me in a funny way for two days.
I know how to handle somebody like you and your fucking.
Yeah, I was like, I can keep up with you.
It was cute.
It was just like the rainbow moon pizza.
And then honestly, Bunny, it just, I never left.
That's how it happens.
That's how Jay and I were.
Once you meet that soul partner, that soul connection,
it's just like fireworks.
And you guys are just together.
I was in my turmoil of being over it.
I was ready to just check out.
I didn't care unless I knew she was the runaway.
And I asked what happened to her.
She's like, I had to flee the scene in Miami.
I was dating a professional baseball player.
It was very abusive.
And I just packed up the dogs.
And I just hit the road.
And LA was my destination and um,
You know, he saw a photo of like us and us weekly holding hands and a little tablet thing with a purple dress on he's like
I'm coming out there. I'm gonna find you and like hunt you down and this
I believe that he died of a fentanyl overdose in texas on the way here
Oh my gosh, so she just knew that if she stayed in that relationship, it was not gonna end well that relationship it was not gonna end well. How long were you guys together for? It was it was you know
what if we ever write a book it'll just be the booty call gone bad. Oh fuck that's the
worst. The first guy slept with in nine years so it was just like. Wait you didn't have
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So it was just, he was a professional baseball player
and he just was, rest his soul,
because we don't want to send bad energy in the air.
But he was like dating multiple women
who one of them are not friends with.
At the funeral, all the girls were like,
who are you and why are you here?
Well, for how long?
Nine months, what about you?
Nine years, what about you?
Two years, what about you?
Like there's nine girls. That's how athletes are, though.
Athletes, musicians, that's the whole game that they play.
I'm surprised it didn't wind up being one big bra
with a bunch of chicks.
Yeah.
He doesn't understand.
Sometimes the world doesn't understand
that I wasn't really happy in LA, though.
Because if you go back to LA, no offense to LA.
I love LA.
I lived in LA when I was 19 to 20. Yeah. And it's just changed.
I always tell everybody Los Angeles has lost its sparkle.
It really has.
It really has.
Back in like 10, 15 years ago, that place was fucking just like
money, glitter everywhere, you know?
And now it's like it has no soul.
And another thing is like, you could barely get a one bedroom,
one bath with no land near the beach of Santa Monica
for four million or whatever.
Out here, you could have 20 acres.
If you're so obsessed with the beach,
just buy a nice pool, put a sandbox next to it.
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You got anything going on?
They're like, good talking to you, pal.
Like, if you're up to something, they all
want to be a part of it.
And if you're not, then it's just, it's really fake town,
is what it is.
No, it is.
It is.
It's definitely gone down the drain in the past few years.
So let's circle back to how are Phil and April doing? How's your
relationship with them? Well I just realized that right now it's just a
good time to just back off and and time because they were a part of the whole
treatment thing. Like I got a guardian just like Britney Spears and her only answer to everything
was lock me up and throw away the key, put them in treatment, put them in treatment. And I knew
that that was not the way. That's the Lima girl. Yeah and like Lima. Yeah and her last client Amanda
Radd, she faked the autopsy report. They did research and found out that she died in the care
of her own hands of having a seizure. And I've never had a seizure in my life until I met her.
I went into five of them in a row and the last one I couldn't breathe on my own.
I woke up eight days later on a fucking life support tube with COVID and pneumonia.
That's wild.
So like all I knew is I had to once you get Marchman acted or Baker acted,
it usually happens in Florida. That means that you have to do 90 days in treatment.
And if the interventionist knows that you have good insurance, they will find reasons to keep you there for eternity.
So I'm like 88 days in and I'm like I get to in two more days. I get out hip-hip-hooray.
Then he walks in he's like you've been rocking those same shorts for like three days now. I'm like, yeah
I'm not trying to get any pussy around here. I don't care. They're like, that's bad hygiene.
You're doing another 90 days at another place.
Then I'll do 88 days at another place,
flick the cigarette out into a bush.
They filmed it smoking like any cigarette would smoke.
It was not on fire.
Like, you could lit the whole National Forest on fire.
You're doing another 90 days at another place.
They just kept doing it and doing it and doing it.
It's called body snatching, basically.
Straight up body snatching.
It's the insurance.
They just toss you through.
Yeah. And I realized that there's nothing that you could do to's the insurance. They just toss you through. Yeah.
And I realized that there's nothing that you could do
to get out this.
They will find you.
Oh, yeah.
Once you're in the system, it's a fucking rabbit hole.
So I did everything right.
And right now, we're going to keep you here for another 90 days.
For what?
I've done everything you've asked.
I've been here for 2 and 1 half years.
Get me the fuck out.
And when I did get out, I appreciated life a lot more.
I'm like, I'm in a car.
It's a convertible. There's the beach. I'm in a car. It's a convertible.
There's the beach.
I'm in a fucking Starbucks outside talking to you.
Or just the music.
They can't even hear music.
I was in the music.
I had no interweb, no fucking music, no TV.
A little bit of TV, but it was just terrible.
Well, let's rewind.
So you feel like April and Phil had something to do with the,
was it a
conservatorship that you had yeah I guess guardian at light em but but did
they hire this so basically she got hired from from Nikki's brother they all
teamed up on me and said that he needs to go away for a long long time they
talked my parents into it by like saying uh yeah uh 500 thousand
dollars is a lot of money but if you don't write this check you're gonna be real sorry when he's
six feet in the ground you know making her my mom feel really bad about it so she just got talked
into this and then Lima has such a nice voice that she could pretty much con anybody into anything.
Is she an interventional what do they call those people? She tried to like create rehabs and stuff.
If you look up her, I try not to talk about her too much
because she's listening to everything
and I don't care if she hears me today,
it's about time she does.
But it's if you're speaking truth.
I would have been dead if I would have kept doing
what she was making me do.
And she was making me say things like,
I was in the longest Florida shuffle.
It's a fact, it's called a shuffle.
She's like, man, there's no such thing as a Florida shuffle.
You have to do a statement saying that you didn't know what you were talking about and I really went on she like forced me
To do it like hey guys
I know I was talking about the Florida shuffle, but I don't know anything about it or what I was talking about
And I was not in the Florida shuffle whatsoever lies. How did she get like I was definitely in the fucking Florida shuffle
I was in 13 different treatment centers at 90 days apiece and one of them was doing it 20
It's called a shuffle. They kept me in there. For why? For no reason. I already know that alcohol
is good and it's not any bad. What do I have to do with the next class? Learn that alcohol is bad
and it's not any good. I'm very aware of that. What are you going to do when you get out? I'm
going to sip on a white clog because fuck all y'all. So Nikki and her brother hired this girl.
Yeah.
Okay, this woman.
And she came in and pretty much just took over your life.
Completely.
5150, do you?
The answer to everything is, yeah, 5150 me.
And what hurts the most is that this chick,
very good friend of mine, BJ Investigates,
it's also called the Surprise Witness,
she does a podcast.
That Surprise Witness. She decided to buy every 911 call of me or that I've done
and body cam footage, every document, every house I bought and sold, every car. She just
wanted everything. Why? Because she just wanted to find out the truth. She knows that something
shady was going on. And when we looked at the body cam footage, my Aunt Missy, my mom, they were all in on it.
I'm like hiding in a hotel,
and then all of a sudden the police show up.
I'm like, are you in on it?
My mom's like, bam, I have no idea.
I have no idea about it.
Then as soon as I get handcuffed and taken away,
she's talking to the cops like they fucking arranged this.
Well, the Aunt Missy, or whoever she is,
was like, tell them I'm not here.
When you watch it, you'll cry.
I can't watch it because it shows betrayal from family and I can't watch it.
I was crying through like the third one and BJ is a very good friend of ours.
They don't like her because she's speaking the truth.
And she's uncovered things that he was too fucked up to realize.
And you can't deny physical body cam proof, which is what she has, and documented
proof. So she doesn't, BJ doesn't know what she's talking about. Yes, she does because
she's documented in the court of law. She's a lawyer. She's a lawyer. Yeah. So, okay,
circling back, I'm sorry I had to cut you off in such a crucial moment, but that betrayal has got
to be fucking traumatic. Yeah. And if my mom is able to say that for a whole year,
she's like, bam, I swear I had no idea about it.
And then a year later, BJ got the body cam footage.
I'm like, what do you have to say about this?
Well, bam, we didn't know what to do.
It's like, but you lied to me for a whole year.
I think you even swore on your whatever's life.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Were you using a lot then? No,, you know what I mean? Like. Yeah.
What were you using a lot then?
No, because I was in treatment for two years,
but as soon as I would get out,
the first thing I wanted to do was that,
because I had no reason to stop.
My kid has been taken away from me
and they have no plans on arranging me a visit.
I'm paying rent for my girlfriend's place.
And I said, if you move to Burbank near your brainwashing brother, I'm leaving rent for my girlfriend's place. And I said, if you move to Burbank
near your brainwashing brother, I'm leaving you for good.
So I'm like, I'll move to anywhere with you in Phoenix
on the planet except there.
So I sent the money.
I'm like, congratulations.
I heard you got a place.
Where is it?
She's like, Burbank.
I'm like, all right, I'm leaving you.
And she thought that I was fibbing, but like,
the only reason that made me me stop, right here.
She gave me the perfect ultimatum,
her puss wire, the vodka.
I really like vodka, but I'm not gonna go with that.
I'm gonna go with the first option.
And her stretching an hour a day is so effective.
Anytime I was sore back in the day,
I'm like, man, I'm sore, I need a massage.
I should have got a stretch coach.
I just wanna go back to like the,
just because the family and everything,
because we could talk all day,
we all probably have ADHD in this room, but I the thing that I just noticed when we got together is
And I'm gonna say it because this is the honesty day today is I've never had a chance to talk to the world
so what I experience in the beginning would be devastating to me because
Whatever issue you have your family supposed to be the ones that you can count on and your friends
because whatever issue you have, your family's supposed to be the ones
that you can count on and your friends.
So when you see a situation like Brittany and Bam,
it's the money.
I worked for a piece of shit
who was in the Florida shuffle.
His name's Joe McBrattney.
I dare him to come for me.
He owes me $900.
But he was in the Florida shuffle
and he was sleeping with these girls.
I'm a very-
What was he?
I-
He was an owner of a rehabilitation center.
So the definition of the Florida Shuffle, where Bam was, which his parents seem to be
in denial at times, is that they will just take you and then say you and I have one.
It's like, hey, Bam's about to get out, so let's get him fucked up.
So they would let the girls-
Yeah, because if they let you out and you have a couple days left, they're hoping that
you relapse so they could keep you
for another 90 days for insurance purposes.
So they would let the girls go out.
And then say, I'd say, hey, Haley's over on 10th Street
in Delray.
Go get her.
And then you would keep her for 30 days.
And we would split the $100,000.
And that's how it goes.
And that's what he was in.
So when you have someone like our men here that have money,
it's just a constant shuffle.
So when I saw some of the body cam,
I was like pretty disturbed that
people that were calling my phone, brand new,
trying to get a hold of him that I'm realizing
don't want to call me either, right?
Because they just wanted to get to him.
There's just a lot of facts out there that show
that they just wanted to keep him there.
And if he wouldn't have met me, he'd either be dead
or he would have just been in the floor to shuffle.
For sure, and these places are so shady that I had a roommate named Big Ben and an ambulance
took him out at three in the morning when everybody was asleep and they pronounced him
dead. And I woke up and I overhear everybody saying like, hey, where's Big Ben? He left.
And all the staff members were like, oh, he moved along to a different facility.
I'm a different facility.
Yeah, the fucking morgue is deader than shit.
They pronounced him dead when I was sitting next to him.
That's gotta be traumatic too to you.
But this whole place is trained.
They taught everybody to say that he moved along
to a different facility.
Yeah, the morgue is dead.
That's gotta be traumatic also,
having your roommate die right next to you.
They put me in.
I had to go in under jackass rules
with Paramount that I go to treatment and pay for it.
So I'm going in on Adderall and alcohol,
which I had a prescription for, and I go in,
I'm on more drugs than I've ever had.
I was a fucking zombie to the point
where I couldn't even cry or cum.
They put me on fucking, Bipropion, Propanolol,
Lithium, Latuda, Trazodone, Cquil, every well buterin and habilify known to
man but but you could say like, Hey, bam, you're a cat. Oh, my
cat died neat. You know, hey, uh, Angelina's over there naked
and she wants to have at it. Oh, she does cool. Like I was just
numb. I had no feelings whatsoever. I was better out at
the fucking Irish bubs cracking jokes on add cracking jokes on alcohol rather than all that shit.
Do you feel like they keep people overmedicated
in these places so that they can control them?
Of course.
Of course, that and the doctor probably gets a big kickback
on writing all these prescriptions.
If you leave on nothing, then they lose a client.
Yeah.
Oh, he's good to go.
Well, looks like we don't need him anymore.
No, they want you forever to be on their shit.
They farm with poison.
What did it do?
Nothing.
They said, they diagnosed me with manic bipolar
and then they said, are you depressed?
I go, I don't know.
If I am depressed, it's because I'm now too,
I'm top heavy and I can't skateboard how I used to.
So they give me all these new prescriptions
and I'm eating salads in there and I'm like gaining weight. I'm like that's it. So I type in depakote
number one weight gaining pill, xyprexone, number one weight gaining pill. I'm like doc
why would you give me a weight gaining pill if I told you I'm depressed because
I'm heavier than I'm supposed to be? He's like well it's an antidepressant. Well if I
keep getting fatter I'm gonna be fucking more depressed you hee-eyed. They
literally just give you a pill for everything.
That's why I won't take any medication. I barely even want to take a leave like around my period
because it just fucking, medications are just, they're like a band aid and they don't fucking help.
They don't heal you. If anything you get strung out on them or you are dependent on them for the rest of your life.
Exactly and I did learn this, the interventionist Steve Timmer was on the body cam footage.
And if you tell the police, don't listen to a word he says.
He's schizophrenic. If you say he's schizophrenic, you could be like,
hey, police, if you look right there and just lean your head over,
you will find a dead body. Yeah, you're not.
No, no, no. Just take two steps and take a look.
Yeah, you're schizophrenic.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Like, no, just fucking take two steps and fucking look like they just do not believe anything as soon as you say schizophrenic. Don't believe a word.
It's actually one of the body cams you can hear one of the cops go. He's about to go in the room. That's when I can't watch it anymore. His friend Paul was on the phone now that I'm very good friends with Paul. Paul said it was devastating. But you can hear the one cop go, oh, he's just schizophrenic, don't worry about it.
Like it's something in that manner of like,
don't pay attention to anything he says.
Did they diagnose you with schizophrenia?
He doesn't even know.
No, no.
He's like, he's only something.
I think Steve Timmer, the interventionist,
just wanted to see me get arrested
and go back to a mental institution.
What are your-
My stepdad was schizophrenic, he's schizophrenic.
Yeah, what are your diagnoses?
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So out of the 13 places I've been to, I think two of them diagnosed me with manic bipolar.
The other 11 says that I'm not that.
Every time I go to a new treatment center,
which would be every 90 days,
they'd be like, they have you on this, that,
and the other thing, and this, this, this this what kind of cocktail is this we've never seen
anything like that I'm like they said that they were the best of the best no we're the
best of the best and you're gonna be on this that and the other thing now and switch it
up then I go to another place they beg what did that place put you on this is the craziest
cocktail I've ever seen I'm like well they said they were the best of the best and that
place that was the best of the best said that they sucked I'm like you're all fucking idiots
minus the only one that wasn't an idiot
that we just happened to run into,
how angels come back around, is his,
and I'm gonna say her name, is Anne Marie.
We were just in Doylestown, Pennsylvania,
and she hasn't seen this person in so long.
And there's a table we usually set out with the Duffs.
The Duffs, this is Ed Duff rides for Tony Hawk,
and Pamela Duff is where we were staying.
She was just sitting there, I'm like, what?
My therapist, what are you doing?
She was there for a different thing.
She's your original therapist?
And she was the only one that I listened to and loved.
Everybody else, you know, and that's another thing.
I just spilled my guts to a whole new therapist out of,
I had 13 therapists in the past two years.
So it's like, here we go again.
I got to spill my whole guts out to every another person
and get nowhere because I'm just going to leave again
and they're going to give me another.
OK, you be quiet for one minute.
So she basically, we just ran into her though.
So she was one of the only ones that told me personally
that she didn't want to do what companies were making him do,
the paramount thing and everything.
That she didn't want him on all those things,
so they didn't like her because she wasn't following
the poisonous rules.
So somehow they lost contact.
We're going to meet Pamela for dinner.
We walk in this restaurant to go to Pamela's table,
and she's sitting there.
She's in this beautiful pink suit.
I'm like, who's this bombshell?
Where's Pamela?
And then they're almost crying
because they haven't seen each other in so long.
So I just want to say like there was one good one
but she was too good to make it
because they want good to go away.
They want to feed the system.
So if I stopped taking the 18 medications
then I don't get the five million
that I usually get on a jackass movie
because I broke my contract.
So I stopped taking it.
They're like, looks like you broke your contract.
I'm like, well, yeah, what's the point?
What's the point of getting five million dollars if I'm dead?
Yeah, because that's what was going to happen. I kept taking that.
But if you read about Britney, they say how they open your mouth and make you
swallow the pills. I just show my time.
So it was like they're making.
Didn't you have to like sit on FaceTimes with them and take your medication every
day all fucking day only to get up to piss or go to the refrigerator?
And I would just go back to bed. I was like
basically just dead inside. They did it to him again recently when I went to go pick him up. That's like another part of the family like and now that I can talk about it, you know, everyone is aware that it happened fast
but when we started dating and then we had our one first fight ever and he was like I'm going to no boot and bang
bowl. I was like, you are?
Don't do that.
I think I like you.
So then I met my best friend, Heather,
and I'm like, do you really think
he's going to go to Nobu and do that?
She's like, I don't think so.
And then two hours later, he's like, bam,
knocking on her door, LeBray in Hollywood.
And I'm like, all right, we're dating.
It's over.
Don't do that again to me.
I'm stressed out.
But when he had to go to court was when it was a reality check.
He asked me, will you fly to Pennsylvania with me and go to court was when it was a reality check he asked me will you fly to Pennsylvania with me and go to
court it was a really big deal but I didn't know that he wasn't coming back
so they kept I didn't know either so so it was because I had a little time tiff
with my brother I lent him Castle Bam to turn into a recording studio he got
Princess soundboard from Paisley Park and and and I knew that I would be in treatment and and once I got out
I was gonna go to California to hike with the Shaman to lose all his weight
So I came home didn't think that I had to make an announcement that I'm coming home because it's my home
So instead of like hey welcome back. It was more like so when are you leaving fuck use when I'm leaving
So we got a little tiff about that
I read his phone on a three-way conversation with the
people that were working in the studio at my house saying we did not know Bam
would be home he's ruining our program we need to get him back to California
ASAP or 5150 and for no reason just to not so I ripped off the first thing I
saw which is sign Billy Idol guitar and and either smashed it with him or on the
kitchen whatever and then I told his girlfriend
Who was trying to rescue a cat she fell off the ladder and shattered her heels
So I said I'd put a bear trap on her other foot
Knowing that I don't own a bear trap and I certainly didn't fly in with one
So I got a terroristic death threat charge of a bear trap and I put my fucking hand in one and jackass too
And it didn't even break so cool your goddamn jets everyone
It's gotta be so hurtful that the people that you're supposed to love you the most seem to be so against you
It's almost like they're just just it's the little things that piss me off villa valo from him is my favorite band
So I have a big a picture right as soon as you walk in
there's a
Piece of cardboard duct taped over his face with like a, you know, just super
disrespectful and then I just bought Phoenix a little blue Lamborghini car, special car
that I left because when I got arrested on the manhunt when they called the police on
me to 5150 me, I left that car there because I got locked up.
He could have just put it right in the house.
It got so sun dried that it's gray.
It's not even worth giving it to him anymore.
What is your relationship with Nikki now?
There isn't one.
Yeah.
The lawyers, she, she lawyered up with a lawyer,
which was completely ridiculous because we're not married.
We got married.
It was a fake wedding in Iceland that you,
you have to be a resident there to make it legit.
We didn't know that.
So thank God on that.
We're, so she's trying to tell the, the lawyer that You have to be a resident there to make it legit. We didn't know that. So thank God on that.
So she's trying to tell the lawyer that her name is Nicole Margera.
That name does not exist on paper.
It doesn't exist on the planet of Earth.
So I was giving her five grand a month out of the kindness of my own heart for child
support.
I'm like, I'm being more than fair.
And then finally we went to court with her getting a lawyer and the judge was like, you
only get $500 a month, you're not even married.
So I'm like, you should have been happy with the five grand.
Now I've given 200 grand to my lawyer and your lawyer wants me to pay for him too.
All the money has gone to the lawyers.
Congratulations.
Over a matter we could have figured out in one second, when's a better FaceTime
for Phoenix, high noon on Wednesday or is Tuesday better?
But they always say, we're still working on it.
So if you send me another 50 grand,
we'll still be working on it.
Yeah, you're going to work on it for eternity
till my back's right dry.
So you aren't in Phoenix's life right now, or you are?
It's still an issue.
Apparently, I get to see him once every weekend.
But I'm fully booked with these Comic cons every weekend to pay these legal fees.
It's working out, though, like they have, you know, right.
Unfortunately, just to speak on the subject, I, you know, push him.
I come from a divorced family.
I have daddy issues right now.
I'm pissed at him right now, but it'll work out.
And Phoenix is so young that he just wants to see dad.
Dad's famous. so dad's busy
and he's doing better than ever and he'll be okay. You know it's just getting on a schedule so they
can see each other and spend time. Right now it's monitored so that's been a little hard on him but
you know you got to prove to the system that you're not a nutball even though it's kind of crazy but
I told him just to do his part and they're gonna be just fine. It almost doesn't even matter if a
decade went by like hey do you know uh can Bam see Phoenix now because it's been ten years
and he's been sober as a judge. Well he'll probably just relapse I know him
you know there's nothing I could do to win on this matter and unfortunately
he's been so up and down that there I don't think that they believe this I
think they're gonna fly by girlfriend and some people think I'm here for the
fame I'm famous in my own way I I don't need it. You know what I mean?
It's really shitty because I'm missing him grow up.
Yeah. You should be skateboarding together.
If I walk in the mall and I see some teddy bears or a fucking Paw Patrol poster,
I'm crying my eyes out. If I even go past a playground and I see kids play, it's like,
that's all I want to do, but I have to have a fucking supervised visit from the Supreme Court with a microphone on just it's like I've
been living at the Black Rifle Coffee compound with a little eight-year-old
and a ten-year-old how come I get to live there and play with them all day
but when it comes to my own kid I have to have a Supreme Court visit with a
fucking microphone and people filming me just to make sure I don't do anything wrong
what am I gonna do wrong? But my sister is not famous and she had to go through this and she just in Georgia has like and
he won 51% and my sister is an angel. She has to pay child support so they have a good connection
and he knows he's not alone. There's a lot of parents out there that are fighting for their
kids whether you're famous and have money or broken up nothing and they're fighting for no
reason when it should just be about the child.
So I support him a hundred percent. And he knows that I don't even know what school
he goes to. I don't even know where he lives, even though I'm paying for it.
I don't even know anything about him, what friends he has, what he even likes,
what cartoons he likes, don't know anymore because everything has to go through
the lawyer and it's just such a pain in the ass.
Is Nikki willing to put her hurt aside and have some sort of friendship with you so that you guys can't can
When a girl is scorned
Then all they see is fire in their eyes and Babylon's burning and it's gonna burn your fucking house down
There's nothing you could do to save it. It's just
There's it's hard and the kids young.
So just, I think right now, like me personally, I just,
like I said, I come from a, you know, divorce family and,
you know, it's all about him and Phoenix.
It's not about her. It's not about me.
It's not about April and Phil.
It's about those two.
And you know that everybody on her end,
they're hearing her one-sided story.
She's probably going around saying,
bam, left me high and dry and he gives me only one-sided story. She's probably going around saying, BAM left me high and dry
and he gives me only $400 a month.
Yeah, I was giving you five
until the judge said you're only getting four.
And I gave all my money to lawyers
when I begged you not to get one
because we don't need that.
So it's all gone anyway.
There's nothing to divide anymore.
You know, the lawyers take everything.
I have started from scratch and I love it that way.
So now if we want to get a house, we pick out our own furniture, we do it. I like starting from
right. I've never been more happy in my life on this great adventure of just going from spot to
spot, meeting new people, coming up with new deals, new whatever. It's great. Sounds like you're dating
a boss bitch. I was just stuck at home in a vicious circle of the hair of the dog. I wake up, I'm like, oh, I feel like shit from drinking.
But if I have a drink, I'm going to feel pretty good.
And if I have another one, I'm going to feel even better.
If I have a third one, I'll feel great.
Next thing you know, you wake up, oh, fuck, I feel like shit.
But if I have a beer, I know that it cycles from hell.
Why do they call it hair of the dog?
I've never understood that.
It's the hair of the dog that bit you.
But why? The dog hair doesn't never understood that. It's just the hair of the dog that bit you.
But why, the dog hair doesn't bite.
Yeah.
I like dog hair.
I've never understood that saying either.
Me neither, but I use the method often in the past.
It sounds to me like you have found some sort of purpose.
Yes.
And that's what's driving you, and that's exciting to you
because even though you have done everything
that you've done, it almost seems like it started so young for you that you weren't able to
appreciate it exactly like a man.
I mean I made my own video at the age of 16 and through word of mouth sold over a million
copies without even putting an ad in anything just mom and pop skate shops were selling
it and everybody said you need to see this video.
So then I did another one
and then that's when Jackass found me.
I was the first person ever ride for Nike
and when Element put out my skateboards,
they also put out BAM wallets, BAM sunglasses,
BAM everything.
And when Jackass became bigger than MTV could imagine,
I already had all this BAM stuff out before they could even make Jackass stuff
So I was clocking mega bank and every wish that I had any goal that I set would come true quicker than my
Deadline date and and I fucking ran out of goals
I feel like you made Jackass though because you already had like a little mini empire with CKY
Before even getting on to Jack Jack I knew who you were before
Jackass you know all the fans really say that like people who really grew up with you because you
raised some of us you know like we grew up with you and you were like you were pretty much like
one of the first real content creators if you think about it like really an influencer or whatever
the fuck they want to call it. That's the thing living in Pennsylvania and he's the hottest that's
when Tremaine and Oxville,
they would be in Los Angeles making all these secret deals.
Then they do a fucking documentary
about how Jack Ascock created.
And talking about Big Brother the whole time,
and at the very tail end, probably about 5%.
Oh yeah, and then Ben was doing CKY in Pennsylvania.
If you do the math, I sold millions of copies.
You fucking barely sold 20,000 copies
of Big Brother's video called poop and tit and fucking crap. I don't even know. I've
never even heard of them. Yeah, I know exactly. I know who CKY has never heard of that.
I have learned how to fucking forgive and be happy and I delete it. Anybody
that's giving me a problem but I just want to take my anger out on one person.
Jeff Tremaine's too much of a fucking pussy.
Knoxville get into a ring with me, take off your boxing gloves.
One, two, three, you're fucking done for.
So you're still really angry with Knoxville.
Put me through hell, maybe pay all this fucking treatment money.
And they're filming behind my back while I'm in treatment.
So they already set me up to fucking fail.
And then, and then as soon as I do the slightest thing wrong, I'm not in the movie. So I paid
100 grand to go to treatment only for me to fuck up. And then now I'm not in the movie.
They had it all planned out. And I think that Knoxville tried to do this movie called Action
Point in South Africa, and they had a $15 million budget. He tried to do it without
us and it was a fucking flop. They only made $2 million. So when that happens,
the label says you're not free to go, you're either gonna have
to pay this back or fucking put your house up for sale or do a
jackass five. Well, if BAM's not in it, then that's already $6
million to $5 million that we don't have to pay back. So we
could already say he's a fucking liability because he's drunk
out in front of a hotel room on TMZ. Yeah, well on jackass two,
I got a high five for fucking good press when I got a felony
charge having Brant's knuckles at the LAX Airport drunk as hell.
It's all what they need from you at the time.
Yeah, but now I'm a liability.
Fuck you guys.
I'm just going to say on that note since we skipped right forward to that, you
know, it's funny how recently my DMs and phone calls and text messages.
I'm gonna let them all know right now to stop texting him.
He's not answering.
Yeah, and if you double dog Knoxville to do any stunt,
oh, I'm so brave, I'll have to do it.
Why triple dog dare?
You step into a fucking ring with me, you're done for.
You're over.
When you say your DMs and stuff like that,
who's DMing you and calling?
Well, just in the beginning, I mean, I'll just say,
Novak reached out, but I don't even know who he is.
Right. So I don't want to get involved with their relationship.
I have a 30 year friendship relationship and no one will get involved in that either.
You know, so Brandon was around during the CKY days too, wasn't it?
I was. And you know, I've helped him with over a dozen treatment centers.
I rescued him over a dozen fucking overdoses at the hospital.
I've paid for all of his mistakes and I don't want any of that money back now that he's
doing good.
But like he stole my S-55 Mercedes, $125,000 car when I was in Germany, high on pills to
go get more pills, wrecked into the Dean's car at Westchester, fled the scene.
They tried to charge me over it until I proved I was in Germany.
But he says, you always got to take a Cunabuoy for your actions.
All right, well, you owe me a fucking car.
You're buying your seventh treatment house in Delaware,
driving around in your Range Rover.
You owe me a car.
But even just recently, because I go through his phone.
So anybody who's texting, I read everything,
because I'm allowed to.
And if I need to change the number, I will.
Because there's nobody allowed but our little small circle
right now of happiness.
Which is probably what's keeping him safe and sober.
Yeah, I can't have any of that. And I've gone through the phone and I saw the message.
I'm like, let's go to the sausage castle
and you can knock me out.
Aw.
I'm like, I love Mike.
But I'm like, and Mike Busey wasn't the one texting.
But you know, Steve was asking him to like punch him.
Like we're not, what are you talking, like we're doing,
he's doing great.
Like you should probably want to talk to him
and ask how he's doing instead of doing something
that would benefit you. Or your followers. And that's why I like just putting my phone probably want to talk to him and ask how he's doing instead of doing something that would benefit you or your followers.
And that's why I like just putting my phone down.
I like to just focus on.
Just leave him alone right now.
We spend all day every day.
Like, we are such a fucking powerhouse team
that she takes better photos than most of the people
on Thrasher magazine.
Those are all my pictures of the skateboarding.
I tell her where the angle is.
We get the shot.
Thrasher photog.
She stretches me beforehand.
And we just have have a perfect day
that I don't need any fucking phone calls
interrupting the flow of that.
And everybody asks me,
if they did another Jackass, would you wanna be?
Hell no, it is done.
Tremaine has ruined the legacy.
It was supposed to be a fucking tribute to Ryan Dunn.
Now he puts these fucking new hee-haw heads in there.
And it's just ruined.
And too many balls. Like why were we
stapling balls the whole time? It was very disturbing. And all
he does is sit behind the camera and say get hurt in action.
Poopies got bitten by a fucking shark. He could have died. And
the movie made $150 million in the box office. And apparently
he got like less than 40 grand. You can't even buy a fucking
Dotson with a used tire on with that kind of money. Meanwhile, yeah, you had her a Hyundai. But you had to sign a contract on Jackass for
everybody could get fucked with at any given moment except for Tremaine because he's the
director now because he's a fucking pussy. So circling back to Steve, I had a conversation
with him the other day because he's coming on the podcast and Jay just did his podcast
and I told him that you were coming on
and he said that he is,
I'd have to look at the text message,
but it's so much, I think he said around the,
like he's hurt, he's reached out to you
and he's hurt because he hasn't heard a response.
I won't let him respond right now
so he could be mad at me, but that's okay.
Maybe when I get to know a little bit more
of the situation, right now my focus is his mental health
and my relationship, like I've only been with this person
for eight months and it went public kind of immediately,
which I can handle, but right now,
they don't know him anymore right now.
This person is on a whole new chapter,
this is not about counting days, it's not about how,
it's about he's changed, he's turned a page. And if those friendships can survive, then that's not about counting days it's not about how you know it's about his changed he's turned a page and if if those friendships can survive then
that's great but right now I love Steve oh when the time is right well we'll
talk and everything's cool but I mean like I did his tour he asked me to go on
tour to do open up for his comedy show and get some money to pay some legal
fee bills of the mess that I'm in. And I completed my mission, everything was a success.
I didn't drink like how he asked.
And then I find out that he puts all my money
in a Phoenix Wolf Trust Fund when he turns 18.
I'm like, I earned that money.
Yeah, but we didn't want you to spend it
on alcohol or drugs.
It doesn't matter.
I did the work, fucking pay me.
And it's not like I need your money.
I have a fucking couple bank accounts.
I could just go right to the store and get some but like you're
not at Liberty to be starting a Phoenix the Wolf Trust Fund and he gets it when
he's 18 it's fuck fuck that it sounds to me like you're really hurt and upset and
tired of people making fucking decisions for you making decisions for me and I
can't even trust you know I it's just hard to trust anybody.
I don't know what their fucking real agenda is. Yeah. That's tough. Yeah. That's heavy to not be
able to trust anybody like that. Yeah. I always say friendships are meant to be like they will.
Yeah. I mean, they've known each other for a really long time. I'm always 100% in for it.
We have created such a tight bubble of friends that, that right now is, you know,
we have a perfect circle of tight friends and I'm not gonna let anybody fucking dent it anymore.
Right.
Viva La Bam, I let in so many friends
that the bubble just bursted.
Yeah.
When you keep giving everybody your phone number,
then you start talking,
you start forgetting to talk about the important ones.
There was a point where my manager, Terry Artie,
was so great, he would get me fucking commercials
to do right guard
for a million dollars of one day of work.
And now I'm pawning off his phone calls
to a friend of a friend because I don't have time
to fucking answer it now, which I've highly regret doing.
You know, when I look back at everything, I'm like, shit.
Yeah.
He had this movie.
The crowd got too big.
Already for me to go, I was too hungover to make the flight.
And because of that, I think that's when he was just like, you know what enough is enough.
I can't I just had a lot of money on the line for you to be
producing this movie in Hollywood and you were just too hung over to get on the flight. Well, I'm done.
I think that circles back to doing this at such a young age and just not appreciating the opportunities because you didn't know like you
literally grew up doing this. So to you it it was just like, Oh, another fucking deal.
I'll get another one, you know, and you have $300,000 to spend a week for 65 weeks.
That's unheard of.
They would never give somebody a budget like that.
Now, that's unheard of our meetings at MTV would be fucking bonkers.
It's like, so what do you want to do this week?
And most people beg, this guy crazy.
I'll be like, how about we paint the entire kitchen blue and then we'll have an elephant
come in and we'll make the outside of fucking moat with a drawbridge.
And then I'll keep wrecking Don Vito, my uncle's car until he gets fed up
and drives my RIP Don Vito boom. Done deal.
Now he saves elephants.
I love that.
Sir, going back to you and Ryan Dunn's relationship,
let's focus on that for a little bit.
You guys were like best of friends.
Yeah.
Take me on that journey with you guys.
Well, we met in, I was in ninth grade,
he was in 11th at East High School
in Westchester, Pennsylvania.
He just moved from Cleveland, Ohio.
And he was just such a character.
He was, he didn't know how to skateboard
and he knew that I was making the CKY video
and he became a part of the crew just because
he would be the guy to do the gnarly thing
that everybody would back out on, you know, he's big.
So what does everybody puts out on to get in that
wheelbarrow and get pushed off of that three story building
into this pricker bush?
Just give me a shot of crown roll
and let's get it done and over with.
So he would be like, we call him random hero
because he would always save the day.
And we did everything together.
Anytime we did a MTV interview,
he would always be right there.
If I started trailing off or, you know,
he would always take over.
So to find out that he got in a um car accident
it was very devastating because i never had anybody die that i was close to and i never knew what it
felt like it was always like hey did you hear aunt audrey from pittsburgh died i'm like who
yeah we had thanksgiving dinner with her five thanksgiving all right whatever are you gonna go
if you know i guess if i have to i don't. So anybody that died until then, I never knew.
You never knew a pain.
But then when that, it hit so hard
to the point where I remember we were in,
outside of Phoenix, Arizona,
I was doing an appearance the next day
and we were in the woods having a campfire.
You could see all the stars and I'm like,
man, I am really happy right now.
I couldn't be happier.
Then all of a sudden I just punch out the van window
and break it for no reason.
And the tour manager was like, why did you do that?
I'm like, I don't know.
I'm just mad and I don't know why.
I just don't know why.
Turns out he wrecked at 1228 in Pennsylvania
and I smashed the window at fucking 928 in Phoenix.
So it's like, we had such a connection that I knew something bad happened and I didn't know what till I found out the next morning.
It was like he was like a soulmate. Like he wanted you to know.
Soulmates can be your friends too. It's not always a romantic link.
And my mom would always tell him like you get these fucking fast cars with these fast engines
you're gonna get into a wreck. He's like, yeah, a fiery wreck.
And that's how it happened.
He wrecked, he flipped me in a car eight times
in the oncoming traffic when I was 16 years old.
In school, he was doing a radio, he was installing radios.
He's like, cop in the car, I got this Jetta
worth going to the mall.
I bet he's happy and happy that you calmed down a little bit.
So we were flying 110 miles per hour,
somebody caught us off. We slid for so calmed down a little bit. So we were flying 110 miles per hour. Somebody caught us off.
We slid for so long, like a football field.
As soon as we hit the grass in the median,
we started flipping into oncoming traffic.
My brother got flown out on the last flip.
He was 40 feet in a moat.
I could see his feet sticking out.
And when I saw him, he was just like, ugh.
A helicopter had to come get him out.
I had a big softball in my head
from bashing the window out on the first flip.
But I gotta thank Chris Rab
because he was sitting next to me
and he put my seatbelt on and I ejected.
I said, I'm not a pussy.
And then he put it on again.
And then we flipped instantly
after the second time he put it on.
Oh my gosh.
Do you feel like after Ryan's death
is kind of when you started spiraling?
Hell yeah, because I was so lost
That I didn't know what to do. It's like well now we can't make a CKY video if we do another Jaguars
It won't be the same. Yeah, and
Instead of like drinking as a celebration it was just drinking to forget and it became a real fucking problem
And I didn't even know it I it. I was always that guy to go 90 days and be like,
all right, we're going to Ruth Chris Steakhouse tonight.
I could have one wine for dinner.
Yeah, it might be one wine that night for dinner.
But the next day, I'm going to have two.
The next day, it's going to be two bottles.
And then I'm out looking for drugs.
It always happens that way.
And getting your phone stolen was too close.
Over a baked dozen of tries to realize that.
Oh my gosh.
So jumping back in, do you think Bam, um, you know,
all the trauma that you've been through, have you had,
I know you've been to all the, did the Florida shuffle,
but have you ever had any like trauma therapy?
Yeah. I mean, they put me through everything. I like a part of the, part of the jackass thing I had to blow into a soberling four times
a day, I had to pay for $800 a therapy twice a week neuro
feedback, same thing. Yeah, and
but I think you were forced I think if you did it like on your
own, I have therapy of hearing sirens when I because I was on
when I was on that manhunt. It was gnarly. There's three helicopters in the sky, eight police officers circling around trying
to find me through the woods. I am a professional at hopping barbed wire fences. I was scared
shitless on the fourth one, but on the eighth one, I became a pro. And then I drank the Brandywine
River because I was dying of thirst. I slept in a box in a fucking house that I thought was abandoned
until they pulled up and they were so terrified
They come up to unlock the door
They just see a pair of feet hanging out this box and all of a sudden I just jump out like a bat out of hell
I just go I'm sorry
I was fucking Harriet Tubman from the Underground Railroad. I had families hide me take me to a
Albanian restaurant and then they took me from there
hide me, take me to an Albanian restaurant, and then they took me from there. Finally,
I made it to the Jersey Shore at a buddy's house, and I was telling random people just to see how far it would go. I told my mom that I was in North Carolina just to see if that would travel
anywhere. Sure enough, turns out we found out Bam's in North Carolina on a high speed chase,
all layered up, because if he made it to North Carolina that quick, that means he was driving 120 miles per hour.
I'm like, that was a lie that I told to my mom just to see how far it would go.
Oh my gosh.
I'm in Jersey, assholes.
There's just so much betrayal and there's so much trauma here.
And I think that whenever you're ready to sit down and kind of deal with it without
with it being on your terms, like Danny said,
I think it would help you out a lot
because you just are so hurt.
You know, like there's just so much turmoil inside
and that's why you drink, that's why you do the drugs
you do is to hide and cover up all this pain that you have.
And with a relationship, it's all about trust.
If you don't have trust, you got nothing.
Right, absolutely.
That's 100% right. And now you got yeah hell yeah we know there's no filter here so
how many days sober are you now since August 1st okay so that's that's actually
a good while is that the longest you've been sober well minus the Florida
shuffle cuz I was forced to be right Right, right, on your own.
This is you on your own.
Yeah, that's amazing.
Yeah.
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All I needed all along was a structured schedule.
It's fun because I had no nine to five job.
I had no boss ever tell me what to do.
And you know, I need a structured bedtime schedule. I know when I'm with her,
I'm in bed by 9.30.
Yeah, I texted her last night at like 9.30.
I woke up this morning, I was like, I missed something. We were in bed. He was already
asleep.
And that's why I love having the dogs because we wake up, I walk the dogs, we take care
of them. If I can't take care of myself, I can't take care of the dogs.
But we walk the dogs, she stretches me,
we go to the gym, then I look for a skate spot,
she shoots the skate photo or films it for me,
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It's a whole fun structured schedule.
And Steve-O would always tell me,
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you'll see that neat things will happen.
I'm like, well, I've been sober and the only neat things that happen is nothing because I'm forced to go to treatment.
I'm forced to go to AA to learn that alcohol is bad. It's not any good. I'm forced to go to therapy.
I'm forced to go to neurofibre. Nothing fun is happening at all.
Right.
I couldn't imagine it. Could you?
No.
Our personalities, I could not imagine someone making me swallow a pill and put me in a room with no freaking music or my phone or you or a text. They want you to go crazy.
And I gotta say this. I mean, it's like a setup for disaster. How come the fucking FBI
or no one has done research about this Amanda Rabb client that Lima, my guardian, she died
under her care and she changed the autopsy. It's saying that it wasn't from what she died from.
It was from a cardiac arrest seizure, which is what I started getting as soon as I met her.
And it's online. So these things that are being, she tried to go after BJ.
She tried, but it's all on the internet. I mean, people are now aware of her lies.
People aren't still in her care, are they? Well, I don't know. They better not be.
People are backing up from her. She made me talk about this neato fucking helmet
that she made.
Listen to this.
This is scary.
And I put on this helmet, and she forced me to say
how neat it is and how it helps with therapy.
In one eye, you see a little fucking kitten drinking milk,
and then the other eye, you see a Tyrannosaurus Rex
is coming at you at full speed trying to eat you.
And she's like, which eye do you pick?
I pick the kitty cat.
You're on the right path.
No shit, I'm on the right fucking path.
Why would I pick the left eye,
which is a T-Rex coming at me to eat me?
So they're basically using psychedelic things
to kind of trick your brain.
Right.
And I went down the rabbit hole of BJ Investigates
and that's how I, when he was sleeping and resting,
I wanted to know and Pamela and
BJ are friends and they showed me things that I started
understand the system even working in the shuffle, I was
familiar with it, right and then watching how they use certain
tools to manipulate the brain and they can keep them. So
there's a word for it. It's a very scary,
all B.J. investigates wanted to do was free BAM. She started the free BAM movement. So
if you're against that, then you're against me. B.J. is a big, big deal with the free
Brittany movement. So she's the one in case not just BAM, but she's uncovered the Wendy
Williams recently, Casey case. I'm back in the day. Like she's someone who is speaking
for those, get her on the podcast. I would, I'll definitely connect you to, um, let's
not forget, this isn't just happening to famous people. This is happening to someone. Yeah.
And I, well, you're, you know, I don't care. But I mean, just like you and I like sitting
in a room and your mom thinks you're okay. And you're not because the person that's in
control of you is a liar and money hungry. And no, we went through this with our daughter, we had
she we had to put her in a treatment center last year in
September. And I researched everything because I was so
scared of something like what happened to you happening to
her. So it's scary. I mean, yes, mental health system is a
fucking nightmare. We definitely don't want to bash the good
ones. I went to Aurora mental health in Pasadena, California.
And I was just talking to the other people. I'm sorry. I went to Aurora mental health in Pasadena, California and I was just
talking to the other people. I'm like, so what happened to you? He's like, I was just here for
a 48 hour hold. And then they found out that I insurance and I had nowhere to go. And I've been
here for fucking 150 days. Like a shell. Like it's really scary. And I can't even get on the phone
and I don't even know who I would call for help. But they found I was only on a 48 hour hold and then they found out
our insurance and I had nowhere to go.
I've been here for 150 fucking days.
I'm like, this is fucked up.
And then if you go and say you kind of need help, like we just had a friend
and we're not going to name drop him, but he was going through kind of the same
thing that BAM's going through with custody and he said he just had a couple
bad days and he went to 51 or he went and they 51 50ed him and he had a check out he was like I don't belong here like I just I'm having some
personal issues and asking for help they put him in with you know the people that
really need help so it's like you're having a bad day you can't really get
the help and then once you do you're labeled you're in the system and they
want your money if you're in a mental institution and you're hanging out with
dudes that are fucking yelling at the trash can saying why didn't you marry me and the other one's trying to fucking French kiss their own sneaker you're in a mental institution and you're hanging out with dudes that are fucking yelling at the trashcan saying why didn't you marry me?
And the other one's trying to fucking French kiss their own sneaker. You're gonna start doing that shit too over time
You can't beat them join them
My god BAM just hearing this stuff is just fucking wild like it is it is crazy. This is, it hurts my heart for you honestly.
Yeah and the best thing to do is just to just shut your fucking cocksucker because the more
you talk the more they can hold against you.
My one buddy Hanifin called me for the manless and he says, Bam you don't understand I don't
belong here you gotta get me out of here.
And I hear, coom coom coom.
I'm like are you banging your head against the wall?
He's like yeah I'm like you just bought yourself another month you idiot.
Don't do that. Then you're definitely staying. Don't do that you hot air buffoon. You just bought yourself. Yeah banging your head against the wall? He's like, yeah, I'm like, you just bought yourself another month. You idiot. Don't do that.
Then you're definitely that you hot air buffoon.
You just bought yourself.
Yeah.
Bang your head against the wall.
That's a real good idea.
He's actually really good in the gym too.
That's what this one is giving himself benefits for.
Let's talk about some good stuff.
So what are you doing now?
That's different.
Like you're getting stretched, which I just discovered stretching this year
because I too, I heard you say something that you had ripped your thing your
Hamstring I was fucking doing a tick-tock thing
I fucking like was joking around and like doing this fucking stupid dance not like a genuine tick-tock dance
but I was like making fun of something and
snapped my fucking
Achilles you know that is so painful, bro. it's still fucked up and this was on Halloween.
And I fucking was like, fuck that,
I gotta start stretching.
Oh yeah.
And that's what I've been doing is stretching
and it's phenomenal.
Yeah, I thought that there was no hope for me.
Like I was even, I was putting tacks in my calf muscles.
Like there was a bunch of calves,
my friend was like, what are you doing?
I'm like, I'm putting tacks in my, doing? I'm like, I'm putting tax, why?
I'm like, to relieve the pain.
Oh my gosh.
So like, that's how stiff they were from just alcohol abuse
and all the medication of side effects of stiff muscles.
It was for real, it was that painful.
And one yoga guy was like, just reach down and touch your toes
see if you can do that, I doubt I can.
And I went and my hamstring popped right here.
I was out for a year from that.
I even, when I got out of treatment,
they let me skate a three foot half plate
with my friend, Jeff Rasp.
And I didn't even get to drop in yet.
I ran up the three foot ramp
and basically got such a cramp
that I couldn't do it anymore.
Tried the easiest trick on the planet,
looped out cause some little shit ass
waxed a coping
like a fucking Eskimo.
And I hyper extended my elbow to the bone coming out
and broke my wrist for the 16th time.
And my arm still won't go straight from it.
It's getting better.
Oh my gosh.
We'll straighten that shit out too.
So stretching, working out, being on a regimen.
Dogs.
Dogs.
Cause he has such a good relationship with them.
That's like another thing, not to backtrack, but.
Did you never have animals before?
I've always had cats because.
OK, gotcha.
Cat guy.
Yeah, but anytime I would have a dog, I leave too much.
I travel too much.
So a friend would watch them.
And when a friend watches your dog for a month
and it's a brand new puppy, you come back
and they're like, I can't give this back to you.
And you're like, I get it.
Yeah, gotcha.
But you know, Bam, I think a lot of his friends
will say, bringing up how he has been in this world
for so long, that he's always had people around him.
And sometimes they'll say, gosh, I just
can't believe you're letting him go hiking with the dogs.
I'm like, letting him hike with the dogs?
Like, what do you mean letting him?
Number one, I get a free moment to hang out and watch maybe
some trash TV for a second.
And then I'm thinking and learning
that people have never let him be alone.
Let him be a human.
Let him just be in the woods.
And they've kind of created anxiety for me,
which who wants that?
I don't want him going, you can't go work out in the woods.
It's like, who wants that relationship? So if Bam's gonna fuck up, he's gonna fuck
up. He knows what he's gonna lose if he fucks up. It sounds like he's finding
peace though. I don't feel like you've ever had peace your entire life. And I just like saying I let him just go do his thing.
We have found such harmony, which is one thing that was like, we have such a harmonious day.
Harmonious day. Harmony is what I needed. And man.
Just spending time like alone with the dogs
and he takes them for hikes,
like things that, you know, at 40 degree weather.
Pennsylvania is very cold for me.
So I'm not hiking at five a.m. with them.
I don't want to.
Yeah.
So, but he goes and does that.
And it gives them time to bond with the dogs
and it gets him, you know,
they have their own little relationship, which I love.
I'm starting to think, you know what, maybe the interventionist really thought that I was
schizophrenic because some of the stories that I tell just seems like a nut in treatment. Like,
I was telling somebody, yeah, so I shipped my purple Lamborghini to North Korea because Kim
Jong-il liked sports cars and he wouldn't let me drive it around but he let me park it at the
airport and then Iggy Pop played my wedding and Billy Idol cut the roof off of the
Lamborghini. This guy is fucking bad, crazy, but if you look it up on YouTube you're
gonna find that shit. You've lived 20 lives. He really has. I mean the people that he knows are insane.
I feel like he's talking about shipping his Lamborghini for Kim Jong-il. Nobody goes to
North Korea and he probably doesn't even have a Lamborghini. Fuck you it's all true. I feel like the reason why you're so happy right now
is because you actually don't have to put on a show every day.
You don't have to please anybody else but yourself and Danny.
And you're actually just being able to be BAM.
And I think you're finding who you are now.
And I have a strict diet.
The only thing I eat is mushy meat.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, that doesn't sound like a bad diet at all.
It's not a bad diet.
And I mean, I don't blame you.
Sushi.
It's like filet mignon over here.
You know?
Filet.
Filet lobster.
Are you eating healthier, though, and stuff like that?
Everything.
Sure, Danny, how do you eat healthier?
Once my leg.
My body feels so good now that all I want to do is eat right.
And I really don't I never thought the day would come to where I would stop because
it's always free if you're at a nightclub. You wouldn't do a bump in the bathroom? Sure.
You know, and then, you know, you get really addicted to it.
Not these days. You'll die in the bathroom.
I've been on the ground on this rug with a fucking microscope
looking for crumbs.
You know what?
I'm like, I'm never going to stop.
It's just a matter of time I'm going to do it again.
Now, don't feel that way.
You could put it right in front of me.
I'll flush it down the toilet.
Don't want any more.
But you know, like, people always say,
forget the haters online, too.
Like, well, I can't believe you're fucking bad.
Blah, blah.
Number one, mind your business.
Fuck who I want.
Right.
And number two, like, I wasn't going to leave him as a person. blah number one mind your business fuck who I want right and number two like I wasn't
Gonna leave him as a person like I'm a good person at people person
And I you know the people that I believe were connected to when you have a connection
It was whether we were gonna last sexually or not or what booty call or not
I still wanted to be a friend and like when he especially in Hollywood like it's so hard and to find normal people in this
World as it is
But when he did have to go to Pennsylvania
and we had the two days together, which people don't know,
the judge gave him two days with me before I had to leave.
And the attorney, because I was upset,
and the attorney said,
you know, you guys have to have him in by Sunday.
And this was Friday.
So we had a couple of two really good days.
And I remember saying, like, he just said,
just don't leave me here
because they're gonna shuffle me. He knew that if he stayed in the system, days and I remember saying like he just said just don't leave me here because
they're gonna shuffle me like the judge knew that if you stayed in the system we
weren't gonna be able to see each other what's a little tip with my brother when
we went to court we flew in from California my Bentley was there parked
at the LAX Airport because we thought we were coming right back we put the dogs
up and and he's like you're sentenced to stay in in Pennsylvania for three months
I'm like but your honor we live in California my car is in the airport
like our dogs are there and my brother lives at my house so he's like ain't my
problem yes my problem it's a fucking big one so now the judge basically said tell your girlfriend to go get your car I was like what do you want me to do?
float around of Motel 6s around fucking Pennsylvania all day?
Why am I sentenced to be in Pennsylvania?
All my stuff, I moved to California.
Well, tough shit.
Yeah, it's very tough shit.
So that's when you know you like somebody.
Because basically, I had to fly back to LA by myself.
I had a lot to think about.
And then I went to my best friend Heather's house
in Hollywood and La Brea.
And I'm like, and his good friend Dre,
a few good people were, I said, what do Ia. And I'm like, and his good friend, Dre, you know, a few good people were,
I said, what do I do?
And they're like, go get him.
He had eight days and he said,
if you don't come get me on the eighth day,
they're gonna keep me here.
So basically everyone gathered, it got his,
I got his Bentley, they checked the oil,
they made sure it was fine.
I grabbed the dogs, Heather packed me up,
Dre packed me up.
Two dogs and the Bentley?
Two dogs and the Bentley and me,
and enough to get across.
That's a fucking TV show.
Yeah, it took me five days to get there.
It really made me appreciate everything again.
We'll be on a road trip, and I'll just pull over
on the side of the road.
She'll be like, what are you doing?
I'm like, just appreciating this view for a moment.
Yeah.
Like, you've got to understand.
I was locked away.
Like, the only outside I got to see
was a fucking barbed wire
fence to smoke a cigarette.
Brutal.
God, it's like prison.
And it's such a dick tease because the beach is literally
right there.
This doesn't feel helpful.
That's terrible.
Yeah, they make it seem all nice on the brochure.
It's right by the beach in Delray.
Yeah, but I'm locked up and the beach is right there
and you won't even let me go to it.
That is so sad. So you guys are engaged now? We are. Is there gonna be a wedding?
Yeah yes but we wanted to... Okay I want to be the flower girl. Okay perfect. And Jay gets to be the ring bearer.
No we don't want to take it from Phoenix. We really want you know like
Yellow Wolf or Tokyo Hotel or something to play during it and that's not an easy thing
because you need the lighting and the stage and all that
so it's not something that's gonna happen soon.
We're gonna plan this really well.
Yeah, it happened, you know, it was just a fun day
and then I forget that people zoom in on us now.
Yeah.
So I wasn't gonna take the ring off
even though it was like a cute little antique.
He made me pick his hand.
He's like, pick a hand.
Yeah, tell me how it happened. Yeah, it was really cute. So
there was this house in Pennsylvania, Mrs. Pamela Duff that they have that has a waterfall
and a lot of potential to live.
So to sum it up, the Duff family, Ed Duff is a pro skateboarder for Tony Hawk's company,
Bird House. And me and him are friends. And when I had nowhere to go and I'm sentenced
to stay in Pennsylvania and I can't even go home, he said stay with it because they own Duff Electric they have a bunch of
properties and you couldn't stay in your own house or you didn't want to so they took us in and um
they had this really nice house that that they wanted to that they just owned but it it needs a
lot of work and it's right on the Delaware River in this cool town called New Hope which is like
this cool but you're gonna leave out a fun detail
and the girls need a detail.
Yeah, we need the girly details.
Details, I'm a butterfly mom.
I raised butterflies, I've been doing it for like nine years.
I wanna be a bee mom one day too.
So I saw potential at this place.
He was talking skate parks, I saw the waterfall.
Pamela just would love for us to live there
because she's ready for another project.
And I see in the front, I'm like,
ooh, that'd be a cool butterfly garden.
You know, and I'm like looking around because it used to be a restaurant.
So there's a lot of potential, but could be a little crazy.
So as we're like driving, which I thought when we were in the Poconos, I was in the
worst outfit, this purple jumpsuit with a beanie.
And he takes me to this like heart shaped hotel and I'm like, not this outfit.
Please Lord, no. I was thinking like, I hope these aren't being like romantic and this heart-shaped hotel, and I'm like, not this outfit, please Lord, no.
I was thinking, I hope these aren't being romantic
and this heart, you know what I mean?
It was heart-shaped, I'm like, okay.
Not looking too good, long story short,
it was that night that we left that place, nothing happened.
So I was like, oh cool, that was fun.
So then we're driving, driving, driving,
and he literally goes, oh my gosh, do you know?
And it was pitch black, it was 10 o'clock at night. And he's goes, oh my gosh, do you know? And it was pitch black, it was like 10 o'clock at night.
And he's like,
but we were just having such a good road trip
listening to all of our favorite music.
And I noticed that that was the house
that we wanted to fix up and everything.
So I just pulled over, got out.
In the butterfly garden.
I had these rings in my hand.
Once I kissed her at the Dove property,
I threw the rings near the waterfall
and they're still sitting in there something
We haven't been back long enough to go find them again. Okay, so he proposed
Pick one and then threw them. Yeah
Okay, and then he like sat up against this little wall and he's like we marry me and I'm like
Are you fucking around like are you kidding or whatever cuz we were like in that little butterfly garden and it was just like super cute and romantic.
He knows I'm not like all blingy and need anything crazy.
So it was just really fun.
And I was like, well, duh, yeah.
Like if you're being serious, you know,
we kept it quiet for a little bit.
But then of course, those little people out there
got a hold of my finger and we're zooming in.
So they started asking questions.
I'm like, oh yeah, I guess I should say something
that a really good friend of mine asked. So I told her yes. And then that's how we know
Leanne with us. So you're in good hands with her because she's like, can I talk about it?
And I just looked at him. I'm like, well, I'd rather someone talk about it from us before they
start talking about it. Before the rumors start. Yeah. So then I was like, all right, let's talk
to her. And here we are. It's been crazy. So what does 2024 have for Bam and Danny? What do you guys have planned?
I know you guys are doing all these horror cons and we're booked till like
October, which is exciting.
And save the world or what we skate.
We say, well, I'm the big animal.
Save the world or what we can of it tour. So like he skates and I'm like, check,
you know, we were in New Orleans and the people are just walking over the pit
bull. I'm an all glam. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm going to cry. I'm like, check, you know, we were in New Orleans and the people are just walking over the pit bull. I'm in all glam. And I'm like, I'm gonna cry, I'm gonna cry.
Glam's gone.
I'm like holding the pit bull.
He was all broken.
And everybody walking past the dog,
like he's just searching for food, starving to death.
They just like, look at,
they didn't want anything to do with it.
And she gets out, she's all done up like this
because we have to go to a horror comic con.
I just picked the dog up.
And we're in the ghetto at the skate park under a bridge.
They were probably like, who is this chick
that just pulled up in a purple fucking Bentley
to save this dog with fleas all over?
Don't care.
But then, you know, the skater community, people
don't understand how rad they are.
So these two rad chicks come over.
They're like, do you need help, these skater chicks?
And I said, well, I just called the SPCA.
And she happened to have a 561 number, Westong me I had the same area code so she scooped them right up took them
out of hell and it's just it's a good balance because I'm not a skateboarder but I can kind
of fit in anywhere and you know the skate parks we go to unfortunately aren't very you
know they're not in the best areas so you you see a lot. And you can always find weed there. Well, yeah, true.
But you know, you see like the cats and the dogs.
And it's sad because to bring up the world we live in,
everyone wants to play pickleball and tennis
and basketball when the skate parks are like in the middle
of bad places that you really don't want to take your six
year old after five o'clock.
So those are the places that we're hitting up and opening
my eyes to this world needs to change.
We'll be sitting there fucking playing and shit. I'll be like, I thought the rule is no phones. Hold on. I'm saving a goat from fucking Idaho right now. I'm like, give me that. You really are
doing that. Yeah, we have like a phone thing, but I'm like, hold on. I have to pledge on this elephant
real quick. That is hilarious. It's true. I'm like, most of the time I'm on my phone. I'm just
yelling at the mayor of LA or screaming with PETA. So what are you true. I'm like most of the time I'm on my phone, I'm just yelling at the mayor of LA
or screaming with PETA.
What are you doing?
I'm calling 911.
Why?
Peddling with ducks.
Cause this guy got arrested for trying to save dogs
to get the trespass charge.
Yeah, what's up with that Wayne situation?
Wayne and Zoe Rooster, you're gonna see.
Hopefully the Today Show here soon.
They're ready.
I love that.
I wanna tell you guys, when Jay and I first got together,
we immediately went
out on tour and it's the best bonding experience for a couple.
It will either make or break you.
You guys are either meant to be together or not.
Once you guys are in a car, fucking traveling all the time,
like working together, that's when you really figure out what you guys are about.
And you fall in love fast because you get to know somebody so personally
and so quickly.
And there's a lot of things that I didn't know.
Yeah, I love that.
You know if we show up in Indiana and I have a bunch of friends there to do a Comic Con
and we're only there for two days like she'll be like, I know you guys got to see him and
I'm sorry but we're having fucking date night tonight because you know I'm like cool.
You know I never had the courage to say that.
I'm like it's 8pm, it's over.
Everybody come along to date night.
I'm like it's 8pm, we're done. He's like, another hour?
Nope.
I'm in bed by 10.
Date line's on.
I need Keith Morrison.
I think he needs you because nobody has ever really
been able to tell you no.
Or like, I don't even know if the word to.
I think it's you guys run wild together.
You just have more structured wildness.
Structured wild.
In LA, I'm sitting in the hotel.
It's 10 o'clock.
And it was like, you have tamed the Apollo.
I'm all sick. I'm like, Apollo?
What does that supposed to mean? You've tamed the Apollo?
What do you mean? You've got me in bed by 10.
I'm very impressed. You've tamed the Apollo.
And then you really just go to sleep,
but you don't have sleeping problems or anything?
You've gotten a lot better.
No, I was always on so much Tresden and Syracuse,
and I thought I needed that to sleep.
But at the end of the day,
I'm so exhausted from skating and going to the gym
and having such a fun, productive day
that I sleep on time.
Are you 100% sober?
Yeah.
Like a raw dog in life?
Just a couple puffs of weed.
Yeah, I mean that's sober to me.
Yeah, that's sober to me.
And he has a medical card, people, relax.
Yeah, I don't think weed, there's a,
everybody has a different definition of sober. I'm completely straight water and skateboarding
is my medicine. I don't know about the other day. They're like, well, then you're not 100%
sober. There's different levels like he's fine. There's California sober and their
straight edge. I'm straight edge. My husband's California sober. He'll drink
and he smokes weed all day. You know, so some people have to have a vice, you know,
I would love to have a vice but my anxiety the way it's set up, I can't.
So it's like I have to just eat my seaweed for me is something that just levels my
brain out. So that's why I'm never going to call it vagina vagina again.
It's strictly pussy.
Yeah, that's that's that was the word of the month when we first started dating
at the restaurants. I was like, can we not say that?
4pm.
He'd be like, is her pussy meat on the menu?
I'm like, oh my god.
I'm just going to go to the bathroom.
Oh my god.
Shock value.
That's what I'm after.
You know how to handle it.
I think you guys are fucking adorable.
And I love seeing him so happy.
That really makes me happy to see him just smiling.
Yeah, learning like the fan.
You guys and the fans that have loved him so much
are teaching me where he really was.
I mean, I knew he had some things going on.
But the best part about working with him
and seeing, helping run the show and make sure he's downstairs
and the fan.
I say hi to them.
Most of the time, they've been really nice to me.
I know it's just the trolls.
His fans that are in line are very sweet to me.
They're not coming up.
Bam's iconic.
They're not coming up trying to spit in my face or whatever.
But they're teaching me so much about him.
And I love all the people that are coming up
and saying that you're helping them get through recovery,
or they're just so proud of you to be back on the skateboard.
It's amazing to see the skateboarding community.
They're so stoked to see him back on the skateboard.
There's so many people rooting for you.
I'm learning what a bad ass skateboarder he was.
You have to watch all the CKYs.
You have to make her watch.
Can we slumber one day and do that?
You have to watch them because then you'll really.
She's eating like bits and pieces.
I see bits and pieces.
The last one she saw, she's like, so hold on.
Ryan Dunn was drunk at the bar in Westchester.
I saw that one.
He's like all drunk.
He's like, if we were in Iceland tomorrow,
I would have gone off that 40 foot waterfall.
I'm like, but you didn't last time because you whooshed out.
Yeah, but we're there tomorrow.
I was doing this right here.
Next day he wakes up and I'm like, you signed the contract.
And I bought eight tickets to Iceland.
He's like, son of a bitch.
So we get there.
We didn't even scope anything out.
I found a random ass barrel on the side of the road, sealed it up,
pushed him off head first by accident.
She's like, I'm like, you did that to Ryan.
I'm like, you pushed him.
What if something bad happened?
I'm like, we really didn't think about that.
We're fucking. I looked down on what that was.
So you guys are crazy.
What's your relationship with Billy Valo now?
It's good. We saw him at his last tour in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
We went up with Jimmy Pop from the Bloodhound Gang and.
Oh, I love the Bloodhound Gang. It was a fun day. I love the Bloodhound Gang.
It was rad catching up with him.
Quiet, quiet, quiet.
You know, the last time, the first time he went to treatment, we were at the Chateau
Marmont and we just got a deal signed for him to be on Warner.
They got a really good deal and he was drinking a lot and he knew I had a prescription to Adderall
and he kept asking me for one and I'm like,
dude, I've given you enough and he's like,
I'm like, you know what, just because it's you,
I'm not gonna say no.
So he like started hyperventilating and an ambulance came
and that was the first time he went to treatment
and I think Warner Brothers found out that I was the one that had
my prescription that he kept asking for which kind of sucks because you know I didn't drink at all.
I didn't drink till I was well 23 years old and all that and and when I was hanging out with him
in Helsinki Finland I was so mesmerized by just how rad he was that when we stayed in the same
hotel together he opened up the mini bar and cracked open a beer I'm like you're just drinking in the day I
thought people only do that at nighttime. He's like I'm like I'm not
gonna let you do it alone so that was the first time I've been introduced to
like day drinking and tables turned to where I'm the fucking bad. When did you
start using drugs? Probably about, tell the truth, I'd say 24 or 25. That's wild.
I would have thought it would be so younger. We were in Davos Switzerland doing this thing
called the Winter Jam for MTV. Sum 41 was playing and this band called Guano Apes and
Jackass was there to host the whole thing and I remember we were staying at this nice
hotel in the Alps and somebody like started putting these lines out on the table.
And that was the first time I tried it.
And I had a massage booked right after that. I'm like, Oh God, I got a massage.
All right. If everybody else is doing it, I'll do it. I did it.
I was getting a massage like, Oh, I can't even relax.
God, I couldn't imagine my first fucking bump a coke and I'm
getting massage. Yeah, I would go crazy. There's no way but
never terrified of a needle never messed with heroin or
anything. I was surprised. What's the hardest drugs you've
done? Probably just method coke anything upper. Yeah, like
shocking. I don't know why people would do heroin or
Valium and show up to a bar and fall asleep into their beer. It
makes no sense. Yeah, I used to be one of those. I love the dope fiend lean. Yeah Xanax was my shit
And Nicole I used to call myself like I would only take that if I was on like an airplane
Yeah, but man you have one beer on a Xanax. You're fucking Larry. Oh lit. Just lit. It's a party
There's the closet problem. I appreciate you guys
coming on the podcast and I look forward to seeing you guys just blossom and I
really feel like this is a new friendship for all of us. My husband loves
you and I love you. So yeah. I already told Jen and Jessie. Yeah. We need to, us three can be on the bus and you guys can get your own bus.
Are you guys gonna come see us on tour? We are. For sure.
San Antonio.
Yay.
Yeah, come to a show.
We always have so much fun.
And the girls have their own bus.
The boys have their own bus.
And I know all the band would love to see you guys.
And I'll steal Melissa.
I want to let them know Melissa, Quinn, Michael Quinn.
They love you.
So the boys will be together.
We'll steal her.
Melissa actually manifested this.
I love her.
She's been saying that you and I would get along great.
And that was literally two days later.
I had your phone number.
I'm like, this is crazy.
I love it.
They'll be with us in San Antonio.
I'm so happy that we were able to work this out.
Are Jenny and Jamie in it?
No.
Well, hopefully Jenny can come.
But Melissa and Michael will go meet her then.
Yeah.
Well, thank you guys for coming.
You want to shout out your socials?
So I'm sure everybody knows where to find you.
But you guys go ahead and.
They know me, Dan Marie Official.
They are there.
I'm talking Captain Creamstain or Captain Crumbly or something.
I'm good.
I don't know.
Just save a dog.
Just Google Bam Margera.
You guys will find everything.
I think maybe the fans are realizing,
they wanted to see me every now and then.
But I'm just going to blast them with shelter dogs.
So please, a dog.
Yeah, I watched your story the other day.
It was all dogs.
I was like, I love this girl.
I go through my moments where I'm like, shoo, shoo, shoo.
Hello, hello.
And I'm like, calm down.
Everybody wants to give shout outs and plugs, everything.
I give a plug to Curiosity Donuts
from fucking Doylestown, they're awesome.
Yeah, I love that.
They only open on Wednesdays because they make them so fresh.
Oh my God, we'll have to try it on tour.
We'll go on tour.
We'll literally say Bam recommended this and do a whole tech talk on it.
Thank you guys so much for coming.
I appreciate you.
Thank you guys for tuning into another episode of dumb blonde.
I'll see you guys next week.
Bye.