Dumb Blonde - TBT: Brittany Furlan Lee

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

The iconic Brittany Furlan Lee is here to crack us up and get candid about exes, mental health and living life in the spotlight. She opens up about her wild ride in comedy and beyond, including skyrocketing to fame on Vine and finding zen with husband Tommy Lee. Brittany and Bunnie talk about how what you see online is not always real life, and Brittany gives a sneak peak about what's ahead for her LoveLee jewelry line and "This is the Worst" podcast.Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comBrittany: IG | TikTok | LoveLee Jewelry | This is the WorstSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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to be super hot make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife that was my goal as a child and here we are. What's up you sexy motherfuckers welcome to another episode of Dun Blonde today I have one of my favorite humans on social media. I have been following this woman for such a long time We've talked and it has finally come to fruition Brittany is it furlough furlough? I never want to pronounce it the wrong way. Okay, everyone says it differently Brittany furlough, baby What's up, dude? I'm so happy to be here dude I you are just like a warm hug your energy energy is always so sweet. Even when people are attacking you, you're so fucking nice. Sometimes I want to be like, leave my girl alone, you know?

And like go crazy. But for some reason, I just, you know, I just always want to give you the biggest hug. Thanks, Bonnie. It's so funny because we're meeting in person for the first time. But you know how you meet someone and you just feel cozy? Like you're a cozy person. Oh, you want to climb inside of me? Yeah, I want Like you're a cozy person. Oh, you wanna climb inside of me?

Yeah, I wanna give you a big hug. No, I'm like, it's crazy. Like you're just like, you know how it's not, well, for me, I'm always nervous around people. Just everyone. Yeah, well, yeah, you don't know what to expect. I'm very uncomfortable all the time almost. So like when you meet someone that you're like,

okay, I can just chill, like it's nice. I can let my tits hang out. Yeah, you're that person. You're that person. I just let my tits hang out. Yeah, you're that person. You're that person. I just take my top off. Yeah. That's what I strive for. Yeah, exactly.

It's to get you naked. You're a comfort person. I'm dead. They're gonna have to pay more on the Patreon for that. For sure. It wouldn't be the first time we've had some titties flop out on the podcast. Really?

Who took their titties out? Well, I know Jessie Lawis off the top took her, and she had some, she's a full lesbian, gorgeous tits. I feel like every fucking lesbian has the nicest tits. Wow, she's with Jenna Jamison. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Jenna might be coming on the podcast,

we're waiting to see, but yeah, she might be coming. That's crazy, man. Yeah, I know, I hate that because like, I would pull my tits out. My husband would be like, uh. But I hate it because people are always like, your tits are fake. That's like the worst about me.

And they're real, though, right? Yeah, they're real. 100%. Yeah. You've got a nice rack. I wear sports bras because I don't like my tits. You've got a beautiful set of knockers. I've seen them in bikinis.

Thank you. I mean, it's like crazy. I flashed at the Motley show because my husband wasn't getting, he always asked people to like, you know, and he wasn't getting any, so I flashed there. And I was just like, oh, whatever. His crowd finally got too old to start plopping their tits. They're like, we don't really want to do that.

So my husband's like, you come out and flash your tits. I could care less. Like, might as well show them while they're nice. You know what I mean? Not going to be nice forever. Oh, listen, I have my butthole on the internet. So listen. Stop!

Listen, I'm gonna go to a Motley Crue show just to see Britney's titties. I'm dead. Well, I don't know if I'll show them again, but I can show you later, personally. And I'll let you feel them too, if you want. I would love. To prove that there's no implant in here.

I hate that. Really? People are constantly, like I've done filler and stuff in my face. I'm always very honest. I've been very transparent about it. Cause I never want anyone to feel less than, you know, I never want anyone to look at me and go like.

Unrealistic expectations. Exactly, like I will always be honest. I get laser, you know, I do filler here and there, Botox, but I've never touched my body below my neck ever. I love that. So it's just like weird when people are just like, they just have to like, give it to you. And it's like they want you to fucking draw blood just proving that.

Yeah. And then once you do prove it, they still don't believe you. Like the internet, I have to argue with the internet about my age. What? People tell me, I'm like, I'm 44. And people are like, no, you're not. Google says you're 29, right?

And I'm like, I'm not trust me fuck. I would go with 29 Like why would I say I'm 44 I'd say maybe 34 or 36, but yeah not 29, but yeah Pumped about that. I'm like, yeah, that is true. Google said it. I'm 29 bitch Yeah, I'm a fucking eternal vampire until one day I wake up and I'm just fucking old and haggard. Every year it's 29. They're like, it's still 29. Literally. Yeah, literally.

That's what I always say. So I wanted to just kind of deep dive into finding out more about you. Like I Googled you last night and I was like, this girl has lived a full life. I'm tired. She's like, bitch I'm tired. You know, I tell my husband, my husband's 61 and I'm 37.

And I am just like, the fact that like, I'm gonna probably live till 60. I'm like, I don't know how people do it. Yeah, like, what do we do? I like to- What are we supposed to do? I'm so physically burnt just from like being anxious and being in fight or flight my whole life. That I'm like, how do I do another 30 years?

Like, I don't even know. life, I'm like, how do I do another 30 years? Like, I don't even know, like I'm so exhausted at 37 that I can't even imagine being 60. Like, it's crazy. I get that because when I was going through my like suicidal ideation, and that's another reason I've always been like super like attracted to you is that you are so open about your mental health journey, which we'll dive into in a little bit.

But I think that right now, especially in the times that we live in, is so fucking important because people try to act like everything's fine all the time. And I love the fact that you're like, I am fucking about to get on a flight and I am scared to death. And you're just so real about it.

So I just, I really, really appreciate that. What I was saying is when I was going through my suicidal ideation, I remember looking at Jay and I was like I don't know how I'm gonna live till 50 I don't want to be here till 50 now I'm kind of like shit I might want to hang out till I'm 80 you know but back when I was feeling like you know really depressed it was really brutal just thinking about having to live another 10 years you know I mean when I was younger and I wasn't on any antidepress live another 10 years, you know? I mean, when I was younger and I wasn't on any antidepressants,

and I grew up with a mom who has borderline and my dad worked all the time and I just was really struggling and I remember I used to wanna die all the time. I would pray to God, I don't wanna wake up, I don't wanna wake up, I don't wanna be here anymore. And then finally when I was 16, I was a cutter. And so I got caught at school cutting.

They sent me to the hospital. I got put in inpatient. And then from there they ended up putting me on an antidepressant. At 16? Yeah. So I've been on the same one since 16. And it's called Effexor XR.

It's a gnarly one. Like it basically, it's a gnarly one. Basically it really works, right? So I have really bad panic anxiety and it does a good job to the point where I'm able to go on tour with my husband, I'm able to do things. When I got put on it, they put me on 150 milligrams.

Now I weaned myself down through the years to the starting dose. But I've tried to get off of it completely because my life has changed and your life does change. And that's what I think people need to remember is that you may be in a season of your life where things are horrible and you don't wanna be here, but that doesn't mean that spring isn't coming.

I love that. It does, it comes. People sit there and they think this is forever. It's not, nothing's forever, good and bad, right? So I wean myself down to the lowest dose of that and so I've just been on that forever and it just kind of helps me get through, you know what I mean? And it's hard, it's really hard.

Do you take anything to help yourself? I don't, I'm just fucking raw dogging life. I'm not against it though, there was, I had a Xanax addiction because my anxiety was so bad. So I did get- That's hard to kick, man. I did it cold turkey. I have to caution you guys.

You cannot quit Xanax cold turkey. I'm just telling you my story and that's how I did it. But I don't know how I fucking didn't end up having seizures because I was on so much of it. The fact that you made it through that is insane because benzodiazepine like- Children's Benadryl. so much of it but. The fact that you made it through that is insane because benzodiazepine like. Children's Benadryl. Getting off of it.

Children's Benadryl. That is so fucking crazy. We have that in common. So when I got off of the effectser for, I only did one year I was off of effectser right before Vine started. Yeah. I was off of effectser for a whole year

and you know and I'm still have this issue with effectser and I'm sure anyone that has taken it will relate to this is to say it's almost as hard or if not worse than kicking heroin. Your body, your brain is so addicted to it. I don't even know why they prescribe it. I mean, other than it does work for depression and panic, but the getting off of it is unreal.

I got off of it the whole year, my head, I couldn't walk straight. I was spinning, I felt like vertigo, felt like I was gonna throw up. I started going to the Balance Center on La Cienega to help me learn how to walk straight because I would walk like I was on a boat for a year and I would call my doctor and I'd go,

this effects are fucked my brain up, man. Like this fucked me up and he would gaslight me and say, no, it's not, it's not. You're fine, you're fine. And I used to take children's Benadryl all day. It's a savior. All day. And people will be like,

how are you taking that and not falling asleep? Because my nervous system was so wrecked, right? And so I was taking this children's Benadryl all day and then I fought for a whole year. I said, I'm gonna give it a year. If I don't get better, then I'm gonna get back on it. And I just couldn't do it. A year later, I was still sick.

I started doing Vine. I was getting all these opportunities and I couldn't go to the meetings because I was too sick, like shaky, confused. It gives you brain fog. I think it permanently changed the chemistry in my brain. So then I went back on it, and it all went away. That is insane.

So it's kind of fucked. That's what I tell people about getting off Xanax. They're like, well, when did you start feeling better? And I'm like, honestly, probably 2023. And I got sober in 2017. I'm like, it has taken. And I'm still not 100%. You know, like when you have, when

you take pills that mess with your neurological system. Oh I don't it takes forever I'm so proud of you oh I appreciate you really fucking hard dude people don't realize I mean I would do anything to not be on anything but I also know that in my family there's schizophrenia there's all the stuff so like if I didn't take it I'm really putting myself at risk for not being healthy. And I'm like, you know what, this is a tiny bit. And I try to just give myself grace and just be like, I don't take Benzos.

I don't do any of that. So that's the only thing I take. I've always wanted to ask you, where do you think the trauma started that have such a dysregulated nervous system? I know my trauma started when I was fucking probably at the moment of conception, because I do say trauma starts in the womb.

So I mean, I feel like my mom was already, my mom was diagnosed schizophrenic. So it's definitely in the family too. Dad's a narcissist. So the trauma starts as children. Tell me a little bit about your childhood. Well, I mean, it's like the body keeps the score, right? So that's a really big book.

So my mom was pregnant with me and I was born with a really severe birth defect. I was born with clubbed feet. So my feet were bent in completely almost backwards. And at that time, 1986, there wasn't like a really good surgery for that. So they didn't know if I was ever gonna walk. So immediately upon being born,

I'm taken from my mom and I'm putting casts, heavy casts, and they bent my leg straight, which was painful, and they put these casts on. And so I couldn't move, I couldn't roll over as a baby. And I'm like, I can't even imagine, just even as a baby, obviously I don't remember. But my nervous system immediately, as soon as you enter the world,

you're being thrown in these heavy casts, you can't roll over, you can't do anything. And I do have memories of just being really scared all the time. And I don't know why I was just scared. My parents, my mom yelled a lot. And so that yelling, I just, like, it just would freak me out and throw shit, break stuff.

And I just was like, I can't handle this. As a kid, I remember. Do you yell as an adult now? No, I'm like this meager, meek person because of that. And so I remember laying in my crib and I just remember being really scared all the time. Probably my earliest memory is that my dad felt so bad for me. He used to sleep on the floor next to my crib and that would be the only thing that made me feel safe and I couldn't roll over because I had casts on my legs and I remember my dad would try to army crawl out of the room

and I'd go, and then he'd just lay back down. But I do remember just being up all night staring to make sure he wouldn't leave. And then I would like sleep during the day. And I still have this weird thing with nighttime now. Like I'm up all night. Me too, until like three or four. Yeah, and then I fall asleep like during the day.

It's so weird. My husband's total opposite. But yeah, so I think that's like kind of how it started was my feet and then, you know, my mom struggling with the borderline and my parents got divorced really, really young. And then my dad just raised us by himself. Where'd mom go?

Well, she freaked out in front of the judge. Oh. Because normally a mother would get custody. Right. And so they were in custody court and my mom, you know, people with borderline, they can only mask it so much. And I think the judge said something she did not like,

and then boom, there went the trigger and the judge saw it. And it was right about when my parents were gonna get 50-50. And then the judge saw that and was like, nope, now you don't get any custody and you can only have visitation with your kids with two, had to be two super, my aunt and my grandma were supposed to be there. So they really gave it to her.

And I also feel really bad for my mom because my mom was a nurse. And so, nurses, they don't think that they need help because they're a nurse, you know what I mean? So it's like- I feel like that generation too. Yeah, too. They just don't think that they need help because they're a nurse, you know what I mean? So it's like- I feel like that generation too. Yeah too, they just don't wanna take anything for it. And my mom, I have to say now,

she takes something and she's doing great. Yay, proud mom. It's like crazy, if this could have been her when I was younger, it would have been amazing. You know what I mean? But back then they kind of were just anti that stuff. You know what I mean? And so she really, you went through it.

I mean, she was just tormented by her own brain and it was really hard. So I didn't really see her much and my dad worked a lot. And so it was like by myself a lot, really bad depression. And then there was cutting and I didn't have a lot of friends. I just have my one friend that I'm still friends with. When did you start cutting?

Well, I wanted to like die. So I was like not strong enough to like kill myself. So I would just like, like try. And then like, I couldn't like kill myself. So it was like really sad. And then I also- When did that start? Like how old?

Like I was probably 15, 14, 15. Yeah. It's when all like your hormones are kicking in. Yeah. And I just remember just feeling like, I've always just felt really uncomfortable in life. I always felt like I don't belong. And I would like go to school and like, I would make people laugh and like,

then I'd come home and just be like, I'm so sad. And it was just weird. It was like a weird- They say the funniest people are the saddest sometimes. Yeah, like I would entertain everybody and then I'd be like, okay, well, the job's done. And like, you know, it was like so sad cause like I never wanted anyone else to ever feel sad. So I would go in and just make everybody, I'd be like the okay, well, the job's done. And like, you know, it was like so stuck. Cause like, I never wanted anyone else to ever feel sad.

So I would go in and just make everybody, I'd be like the clown, you know, I got voted like class clown out of the girls and the guys. And then I would go home and just be so depressed and feel so empty, you know? So it was just really hard. And, you know. Did cutting get, make you feel like a sense of relief?

Well, you get like endorphins. You do get like a surge of endorphins, you know? So I would get a little bit of that, but also I was just like, hoping that one day I could fully do it. You know what I mean? But then I also felt so bad for my dad. Cause I was like, my dad was trying so hard.

He was working so much to support my brother and I. And so it was really sad. So I will say the medicine did help me, but the thing that was the best for me was just getting the fuck out of Pennsylvania. Yeah. Getting away from it all. Pennsylvania's kind of dreary.

Anytime we've gone there on tour, it's always just melancholy. It's depressing. Yeah. Like, as soon as I moved to California when I was 17, as soon as I graduated, I moved right to California. You're like, fuck this, I'm leaving. I was like, bye bye.

And I just. Was dad OK with that? Yes. And the whole reason it happened was because my stepmom grew up to California. You're like, fuck this, I'm leaving. I was like, bye bye. Was dad okay with that? Yes, and the whole reason it happened was because my stepmom grew up in California and we went and visited here on a trip. And I was just like, I just feel so much better here. And I feel so good.

Right, as a son. Yeah, and being away from all the drama. And I was in theater and I was loving theater and loving acting and I knew I wanted to do something in entertainment. And so I was like, I'm gonna go try. You know what I mean? So I just came by myself at 17 and then just worked a bunch of fucking odd jobs and I knew I wanted to do something in entertainment. And so I was like, I'm gonna go try, you know what I mean?

So I just came by myself at 17 and then like just worked a bunch of fucking odd jobs and did standup and open mics. I'm like, oh God, it's just like such a journey. So let's talk about it. So your first night in LA, you came here by yourself. What is 17 year old Brittany doing? Well, so my dad was like, you have to go to college

because you can't just go out there with nothing. So I enlisted in the easiest college I could find, which was fashion school. Oh, nice. Literally. I was like, what's the most dumb shit? Like, you know what I mean? Like our quizzes were like, what outfits are cute? You know what I mean?

I was like, this one, not that one. Right, like there's not a wrong answer. Yeah, like it's like not even like, what colors are on the color wheel? Like it was just so stupid. It was, like it's like not even like, what color is there on the color wheel? Like it was just so stupid. It was a dumb as shit. I'm like, I can't believe we're paying for this, but I loved it, you know,

and I met some good friends there. And so I was in fashion school and that was in downtown LA in 2006. Yeah, that was like prime time LA. Dude, there was nothing there though. Downtown, there was nothing. It was like prime time LA. There was nothing there though downtown, there was nothing. It was like fucking homeless people

and businessmen during the day. No LA live yet, there was nothing. So I used to have to like walk through all this craziness to get to school. I lived on seventh and Bixle and it was just insane. And I thought like, wow, this isn't Hollywood. I was like, this place sucks. Cause I lived in downtown LA, I'm like where the, this isn't Hollywood. I was like, this place sucks, you know? Cause I lived in downtown LA.

I'm like, where the fuck's all the cool shit, you know? So I eventually ended up moving into a house in the Hollywood Hills with my friends. And then that's when it kind of the whole thing begins. And I start doing open mic comedy and stand up. 2006 in LA and Vegas was like peak times. It was like peak times of just, it was kind of like, I don't want to say innocent, but it was like, it was kind of like, I don't wanna say innocent,

but it was like, it was, and like we had so much fucking fun. Yeah, well you did. Yeah, I did. I did not have fun. I struggle-cited. Aw. Dude, I mean, it was like, I was happy to be out here. Right.

Way better than being in Pennsylvania, but I was struggling. No way, like financially or just like spiritually. Oh yeah, all of it, all of it. I mean, I had to Pennsylvania, but I was struggling. Like financially or just like spiritually. All of it, all of it. I mean, I had to pay my rent was, I lived in a three bedroom house that was gorgeous. And 2006, my rent, my quarter of the rent was 750 a month. So I had to come up with 750.

I mean, that's nothing these days. We look at that now and we're like, whoa. But no, back then, that's a lot. And so I was super skinny. I was like maybe like, whoa. Back then it was a lot. And so I was super skinny. I was like maybe like 105 pounds. And so I got picked up to be a fit model from my school to the fashion district downtown. So I would have all these like fashion companies

that were owned by like all these Asian people and they would stand around me and speak another language and they would try clothes on me all day. And they'd be like, no, no, no, no. And like them trying outfits on me because they would make around me and speak another language and they would try clothes on me all day. And they'd be like, no, no, no, no. And then trying outfits on me because they would make the pattern and everything. And they like to use live models, right? And so this job was great.

I got paid like $200 an hour. And you'd be there for like four hours, like every couple of times a week, right? It was great. And I would stand there, but the one rule was that you couldn't gain weight. So I would see girls come in and they measured us every day. They would measure us and make sure like, uh-oh.

And then one of the girls would get fat and then they would like whisper to each other and they'd be like, ah. And she'd be like, what? What do you mean? Like, get the fuck out Cassandra, you fat ass. Like, you know what I mean? Like she like got them.

They're so cutthroat. They don't give a shit. When a girl would get called into the office, we were all like, fuck, like damn, right? So I would just see girls coming and going all the time, but I would like make them laugh. So I think they liked me, right? I lasted two years there, which is crazy.

Cause I saw a million girls get come and go, come and go, come and go. And then finally they got rid of me. How were you not gaining weight? Were you, did you develop an eating disorder? I was on Adderall. Oh gosh. Like my roommate was on Adderall. Oh, gosh. My roommate was on Adderall.

She was like, dude, you're really ADHD. You should go see the doctor and get on Adderall. Because this is back then when they were to prescribe anything for anyone at any time. And then I went and my psychiatrist at the time, because I was on such a high dose of the effectsor at that point, because it would make me really tired, but I was still very ADHD.

And he's like, you know what? Adderall would be great with this. And he gave it to me. It actually was great. And I did great. And I only like, you know, I did actually really well on it. And for someone who has anxiety,

I didn't really have anxiety on it. And I did really well on the Adderall effects combo. And then one day in 2015, or no, I'm sorry, 2013, I got a really bad flu and I stopped taking the Adderall, you know, cause I was sick. I was like, I'm not gonna take Adderall for him, like sick. And then my body just felt so tired.

And I was like, oh, this is speed. And I was like, I don't want it anymore. And I kicked it and I didn't want it anymore. And my doctors even now have tried to give it to me because I'm tired all the time. And I was like, guys, I can't, I'm too anxious. So I can't like take anything. You know what I mean?

I can barely drink a little bit of caffeine. Oh, I have coffee. I'll fucking be rocking back and forth. I can't do it. I can never have a coffee. My heart pounds out of my chest. But I try to drink the strawberry refreshers from Starbucks. Those will crack you out too.

But they only have 45 milligrams of caffeine. And so I asked them to make it with extra water. And I'll have a little bit of that and that'll make okay. But yeah, I did really well on the high dose of effector, low dose Adderall for years, but for me, I was already thin and then Adderall on top of that, you just don't eat. And then I became obsessed with my weight

because of the fit stuff. And so I was very skinny. Yeah, it was really bad. But yeah, no, I mean, I was surviving. You know what I mean? You know, I wouldn't say it was a bad time. I would just say it was like a more like me hustling. Like, what was I gonna do?

You know, and I was trying to act and I was trying to do comedy. And so it was a crazy time. And then that's how I met Josh. Josh Atemeyer. So we love Josh. I told them about that the other day. They were like.

We love Josh. Josh is my ex-boyfriend, which is so funny. Yeah, it's just crazy how worlds collide. It's weird. Yeah, he's a sweetie pie. He's a sweetheart. Such a sweetie pie. He, so he and I met through standup

and we dated when we were both really young. I mean, I was probably like 21 maybe. How did you get into stand-up? You just one day was like you know what I'm a funny motherfucker I'm gonna go stand in front of a crowd because that's a tough thing to get into. Yeah especially for somebody who deals with anxiety. Oh yeah but I was like at that time I don't know why it's like I was so driven and I was again on a higher dose of my medication so I wasn't as scared and I was again on a higher dose of my medication, so I wasn't as scared. And so I would go do the open, they have open mics at the comedy store, you can sign up and improv,

you can sign up, you know, at like six o'clock, you do get like five minutes, right? And so I would do the open mics at the comedy store. And I remember Tommy, who used to work there as a manager, he doesn't work there anymore. You know, I never had material, so I would just go up there and riff with the audience, the little audience that was there.

And I always had so much fun and was so good at it. And Tommy who worked there was like, you gotta stay with this, you're so good at this. And he doesn't work there anymore. So then I was doing open mic at this place called, God, what was it called? It was on Melrose, I forget the fucking name of it. It was this bar.

And a casting director from E was watching the open mics and she was like, you're so funny. I want you to come audition for this show on E. And I was like, this is how it happens, baby. I'll call my parents, I'm like, I don't even know you anymore. Like, I'm famous.

And like, you know, like, and so I ended up auditioning for this show. It was called Reality Hell on E and it was basically from the creators of Punked, where they were doing like a prank show, where you would prank people and make them think they were on a reality show, but they weren't, right?

And so I would did a couple seasons of that show, and then I ended up doing prank my mom on TLC, and so I was doing all these like prank shows, and I was dating Josh, and Josh would like show everybody, he'd be like, look how cool my girlfriend is, she's on TV, it was so funny. But then I stopped doing standup because I was doing the show,

I'm like, I already made it, this is what all the standups wanna do, you know what I mean? And then those shows went nowhere, right? Right. And then I met my, Josh and I ended up breaking up and I met my boyfriend, Randall, who was a music video director and I was in a music video.

And then he bought me my first iPhone and then Vine came out and then- Vine was crazy. I remember you on Vine. I was never, I never did the Vine thing but I had an account and would watch them. I was like one of those weirdos. And I loved you on Vine.

You had like fucking like what? Nine million followers on Vine, 10? Yeah, it was crazy. It was wild. And like, it was weird because when I got on there was like all these people that I looked up to, like James Urbaniak and what's his name? Goldberg and fucking Simon Rex and you know,

all these people had all these followers. D-Nasty or what is it? What does Simon Rex do? Dirt nasty. Yeah, Will Sasso, like all these comedians had really big followings on there. And then I started surpassing them. And I was like, this is crazy.

And then it started turning into, you know, brands calling me and being like, hey, it's Benefit Cosmetics calling. Can we pay you $10,000 to do a video? And I was like, yeah. I would have did this video for like free lip gloss. Like, you know what I mean? Like I'm so glad they offered it first.

Cause if they were like, can we give you like one blush? I'd be like, yes, one blush is fine. You know? So I ended up then, then ended up that taking off. I started getting all these brand deals. And then when, when, when a talent agency see you're making money, that's when they come. They're like little sharks.

It's like chum in the water. So then- Oh, we signed with the, I'm signed with WME right now. Oh yeah. So I'm with WME. Yeah. I didn't know that. WME sisters. I love that. And so ICM, CAA and UTA all emailed me in the same week. Oh yeah, so I'm with WME. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that, WME sisters. It's crazy, I love that. I didn't know that.

And so ICM, CAA and UTA all emailed me in the same week. Love that. I wanted to take a meeting and I had my first meeting with ICM and you know, places don't usually do this but when I was going to leave, they were like, we really want you to be with us, like sign this paper and blah, blah, blah.

And I had a really like shitty manager at the time and she was like, yeah, you should just do it instead of taking the other two meetings. And so I ended up signing with ICM. They did absolutely nothing for me. They didn't help me at all. They didn't, they just collected money. So it was just like a nightmare, but you know,

it is what it is. You live and you learn. You live and you learn. But you know, I feel like the talent agent industry is like very different now. They kind of just wanna you to do all the work, you to get the followers, you to make the money. We talk about this all the time.

I love you Sloan, but yes, we agree. Yeah, everybody, they do. They literally, I mean, my husband has these friends that are incredible musicians. Their band, their music is unfucking real. But then they try to get signed, and the first thing these agencies say are how many followers do you have?

And they're just indie guys. They don't care about Instagram. Which you can blow up nowadays. Social media is such a- Yeah, if you get on a TikTok or something. Literally. But you gotta get something. Yeah, you gotta get something.

And these guys are not into that. And so it's like they end up suffering and not making it. And it's like, you know, so I've just had like bad experiences. You know, I just, I went from one to the one to the one. And I'm just like, this is just like nobody, nobody wanted to do anything. Everyone wanted to just collect. Kind of mooch.

Yeah. So you also, during this time, I'm going to look at my notes really quick. If you see me looking down. I'm dead, you took notes. I love you. Holy shit. I feel so bad I had you on ours.

And I'm all just like, hello. No, you're good. During this time you got an award, right, or something like that. You were in a Pitbull video. Oh, yeah. He's the best. He still follows me.

I love him. I love that. You are the most followed woman on Vine. And your influence was so big at the time that Time Magazine in 2015 listed you as the 30 most influential people on the internet. Yeah, with Kim Kardashian and Barack Obama. That's fucking huge.

Dude, I cut that shit out and sent it to my parents. I was gonna say, do you have it framed in your house? I'll never forget at the issue of time, it was a TV on the front with a reflection in it. They made it reflectable so you could see yourself. And it was really cool and I bought like 30 copies and I sent it to my family and I'm like, guess who's not a failure?

They're like, I'm not a failure. Yeah, because you know that somebody at? Like I'm not a failure. Yeah, cause you know that for somebody at home is waiting for you to fail. Everyone's waiting for me to fail. Yeah. They still are waiting. Keep waiting.

Oh, I think you've done pretty damn good with that though. I try. And then yeah, so amazing stuff happened. I got really, you know, I say it's a blessing because, you know, God, I feel like, you know, not to get religious on your podcast. No, you can't. I have a lot of faith. I have a lot of faith. And I think that God, I pray all the time. Yeah. Prayer come through for me. Prayer is to me. Prayer is a form of manifesting. Absolutely. Like you're literally you're asking the universe and you're asking God like, Hey,

this is what I need. Your words are spells. So as soon as you put them in the universe, it gets grabbed, you know? So I love, you can get religious as you want on my podcast. I love it. Yeah, absolutely. And you're so right about that. You know, I pray to God every night. I pray before I eat.

And I just, you know, I feel like God has really come through for me. And I know a lot of people are like, some people don't believe in it, whatever, but it's's like it's such a personal experience. I really feel something so you're so wholesome Oh, you really are like yeah, I would never picture you to be as wholesome as you are I just really such a sweetie pie. Thanks. I mean, I'm a goofball when I'm you know performing or online But I like a very like real serious side too And and do you feel like there's two different Brittneys?

Oh, for sure. One that you present to the world and then one at home? 100%. And you probably relate to this too. Oh, absolutely. A lot of people with autism, or I don't wanna say I have autism, but I do say that I-

Have autistic traits. I mask where I perform. And then I come home and I'm like, okay, and I take it off. You know what I mean? It's almost like taking off a heavy coat. And then I'm like, okay, now I can be me again. You know what I mean? And there's just so many other little weird things I do

I won't get into, but yeah. Well, you took the test. I did, I got a 138. So the next step is we have to get diagnosed. I know, so to go get diagnosed, I looked into it because my brother's son is autistic. Right. Excuse me, my brother has some things he's struggling with

and then he was gonna get the official test for it as well. And then they were like, it's $2,500. And then I was like, okay, and then what do they do as an adult? Because with children, when my nephew got, you know, he got diagnosed, now the government actually will send people to your house to help you work with your autistic child,

which is really nice. There's a lot of government programs, believe it or not, so a couple times a week, they send someone over to my brother's house and they teach them how to work with my nephew so that he doesn't get overstimulated, they learn his triggers, they learn all kinds of things. They say autism is hereditary now, is what they're saying,

so I definitely think my mom had some things going on because she was super OCD like I am. And like, you know, so I would love to. Well, there's so many different versions and I don't really think anyone's normal. You know, like we all have our own things and quirks. And you know, I think that there's really high functioning autism with mixed with ADD

and all kinds of other things that's harder to diagnose and things like that, you know, I don't think anyone can particularly put people in like a box. You know what I mean? So. It's not one size fits all. Yeah.

I feel like we all have a little bit of, and it all kind of intertwines. But yeah, so then I did the Vine thing and then I dated a really horrible guy who cheated on me with prostitutes and then I went a really horrible guy who cheated on me with prostitutes. And then I went through that break. Fuck him.

Damn it. Yeah. And then I met my husband on Raya in 2017. So it's been seven years. Aw. So what is Raya? Because my doctor reached out to me the other day and she's like, hey, I need you as a reference for Raya.

Your doctor has your reference? I's like, hey, I need you as a reference for Raya. Your doctor has to have your reference? I was like, what is Raya? And she was like, don't worry about it. Just can I use you as a reference? And I was like, sure, I don't care. What is it? So it's like basically, like when they first started it, it's like a celebrity dating app.

Well, it's not like that. I don't feel like anymore. I mean, there's a lot of famous people on there still. Like I did Drew Barrymore's on there. A bunch of people are on there playing with it. Drew Barrymore's on Raya, that's awesome. She said she was on something like that. And then, yeah, so when I got on, I had no idea.

So basically because I had a big following, the creators reached out to me and said, "'Hey, we wanna give you an account.'" They weren't charging for it at the time. You just had to be- We need to put Haley on Raya. You had to be approved. You have to be approved, yeah. So it's like kind of a gnarly thing.

So they were like, we just wanna put you on there. It's a dating app, we know you're single and like, we think you'd be great. Who's doing the approving? The guys who run the app. God, that's crazy. I don't know if it's the guys who create, at first I think it may have been the guys who created it.

And now they have a team. And now they probably have a team. Wow, wild. So they put me on there, and I remember the first time I opened it, I'm scrolling and it's like, Joshua Jackson, Elijah Wood, John Mayer, like, and I can say all this now

because I'm never going back on the app. You're usually not allowed to talk about it or they'll take your account away. Well, I'm going on Raya. Yeah, dad. I'm just kidding. Jay will be like, what are you doing? People go on there for like just friends.

We're like, yeah, right, yeah, right. Tell us how your relationship's not working out. It's so crazy. So I got on there, there's all these famous people. I went out with a bunch of them. Maybe like two or three actually. You got any horror stories? Not really actually.

Everyone was really nice. Damn it, I'm tired of these nice guys. I know, actually, I don't have any with famous people. You know what I mean? Most of them are pretty. They mind their pees and cues. Yeah, they're really sweet. I did go on a date with Elijah Wood and he was just so sweet. Is he tall?

No, he's very small. And I wasn't attracted to him, but I really liked his personality. And he was so nice and he has this really cool house that has a big movie theater in the living area. And he was just so nice and he has this really cool house that has like a big movie theater in like, in the like living area and he was just like so nice and so cool but not like romantic vibes. Right.

You know. Like a homie. Huh? Like a homie. Yeah, he was just really cool guy. Yeah. And I think he's like, I think he has a wife now and a kid and you know, whatever.

I've run into him since then. He's just a really sweet person. Yeah. Yeah and so I mean mean everyone that I went out with was pretty cool. I didn't, I didn't like click with anyone because I am so particular. You know what I mean? People are always like, oh you're just a Tommy for his money. I went out with so many other people that I could have been with for their money if that was the case, but I was making so much money on Vine. People have no idea. No. Like I have money. You were like one of the

first people to monetize that platform, right? Or to even monetize social media. Exactly. I'm like, dad, I did not need it, and I still don't need it. I still always, I do my jewelry, and I do my own things still. Because the necklace you have on is from your jewelry line. Thanks, I use my necklaces.

Yeah. What is it? It's called Lovely Jewelry. And it's just kind of something fun to do with my hands and not be on my phone. Yeah. So I love that. I want to start crocheting. Yeah, it's amazing. I swear fun to like do with my hands and not be on my phone. Yeah. So I love that.

I want to start crocheting. Yeah, it's amazing. I swear to God. It looks hard. I'll let you know how it goes. Okay, let me know how it goes, dad. I will, for sure. You're like, I did one stitch and I hated it.

I do, I want to crochet. I forgot to tell you, I've dived into this. I'm going to try to do this in March. When I take, I take every March off. So I'm going to try to learn how to crochet during March. Yeah, you just turned into a full on grandma. Next time I do your podcast, you're just covered in like a fucking,

you're just like this. I'm gonna make you a blanket bitch. You're just knitting during the whole podcast. Uh huh, yep. Rocking in your chair with a cat in your lap. With my bifocals on, literally. And a Bible, just like full on. I'm like, wow, bunny's taking a turn.

Well, one extreme to the other. Yes, so no, so I do the jewelry and I always try to make my own money. I actually don't like to spend any of my husband's money because- In the same way. Because I, my grandma told me this quote when I was younger and she said,

if you give them the power to feed you, you give them the power to starve you. And that shit hit me like a ton of bricks. I was like, ah, you know what I mean? Like I gotta always have my own shit, you know? Plus like I have a fear of abandonment all the time. So I'm always like, I gotta make sure I'm okay. You're always afraid the carpet's gonna get yanked out

from underneath you. Always. No, I'm the same way. We were checking into the hotel here and they're like, well, Ms. DeFord, I just wanna let you know, your card is on file and it has your name on it. Are you okay with that? And I go, yeah, I run my own ship.

I said, I don't ask my husband for anything you know I was I just thought it was crazy that they would ask me that like how many wives do they have are like no put my husband's car on file yeah that was crazy no shame in that absolutely like I wish I could be that person like easy going yeah yeah yeah and my husband's very nice I mean he gives me a card and he you know I don't ever have to, I'm not for want, but you know, it's my own personal thing that I'm like, no, I wanna make my own. Cause then it's like-

And he probably loves that about you too, because men test women too. Yeah, he does love that about me. Especially because this is the weird thing, like when it's their birthday or Christmas, like- You're gonna go buy something with their own money. With their own money?

Like, I'm like, what? Like, no, that's so weird. That would be so sad. You know what I mean? Like here, you bought this for yourself. Happy birthday. You know what I mean? It's better.

Here's my pussy. It's all I got to offer. Exactly. No, I'm not talking shit about women. No, I mean, like if that's your bag, that's your bag. It's fine. It's fine. It's just not, I'm not comfortable with it.

So yeah. So I just, I've kind of just done my own thing and you know. So 2017, we swipin' on Raya. We match and it's so funny because he is just so funny. Tommy's just like a very, like just no, you know how guys try to be cool and like not text you? Right. As soon as we match, he's like, hi! And it's like 30 messages and he's like, what's up?

How are you? Like, wanna hang out? Listen to this new song, check it out. You listen to it yet? Like, it was so funny. It was like, brrr. And like normally girls would be like, that's a red flag. But for me, I'm like, aw, like he's so fun.

And I was so- You're like, he's a puppy. He's a little puppy. Yeah, and he was just so nice. And I was so tired of people that played games or guys that would like, you'd respond. Like if you wanna talk to me, talk to me. Like you text them back

and then they wait three days to respond. It's so weird. But then they like are still engaging and they're trying to be cool and I'm just like whatever. So he was not like that. Guys don't do that, that shit's not cool. Don't do it. The girls like guys.

It's cool to care. Yeah, it's cool to care. That's a good, yeah, that's a good saying. It is cool to care. So he cared and he was very persistent and he invited me to Pride, which is so fitting and we met up at Pride and we just fucking held hands and like never let go and we started hanging out

every single day and you know, I've told this story before, he was like dating Carmen Electra and then we got together and he just boom, just dropped everybody. You guys were searching for each other. Yeah. You guys really needed each other. I feel like that's how Jay and I were. When you meet that person, you just know.

Yeah. And it's like, there's no questions asked, no words have to be spoken. It's like you literally link up and you never leave each other. It's like comfortable. Yeah, safe. And safe. And I don't feel comfortable with a lot of people.

So the fact that when I first hung out with him, I felt instantly very cozy. I was like, this is a weird thing. Like I'm not used to this, you know? I'm so used to being so worried and I was just so comfortable and we just hit it off right away. I think I moved in after like three weeks

and we got engaged after six months. And then, yeah. Jay and I got married a month after hanging out with each other. Amazing. And everybody's like, you guys are not gonna make it. And here we are eight years later.

Same, seven. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, where we were year after you. You were 2016. It's so wild, dude, isn't it? Yeah, no, I love that for you though, that you guys found each other safe space. I'm so happy.

Like, I really am. Like, it's just so nice to not be in that world anymore because LA is like bleak for dating man. We were just talking about this at dinner last night. I feel bad for anybody who has to date in this fucking environment. God bless. So the girl we went to dinner with last night,

should I tell her story? Said that she went on a date with some guy. He's like, hey, I'm making steaks, come on over. And then she goes over there, she's like, all right, cool. I didn't really wanna go anyways, but I went cause I was like, you know, whatever state and he opens the door and I was like, Hey, where's your steak? And she's like, uh, you told me you were cooking steaks and he's like, all right. Well, I have one.

So, you know, come on in. So he started, he cooks the steak. He's like, Hey, you want to bite? And when it's done cooking and gives her one bite and then throws the fork away and proceeds to eat the steak right in front of her. I was like, if that is what dating is like, I don't fucking want it, dude. He said, I'm cooking steaks

and then asked her where her steak was. Fucking BYOB steak hanging out. Like, what the fuck? BYOS. BYOS, bring your own steak. Well, sorry, you can have a little nibble of mine. That's crazy. No, for sure. Well, sorry, you can have a little nibble on mine. That's crazy. No, for sure.

Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah, Brittany, Brittany, we do the podcast. This is the worst Brittany Schmidt comedian. She's so funny. And she's single and the stories. Oh, and she likes NBA players. Oh my gosh. She likes, I mean.

That's like a glutton for punishment right there. But she's tough. As a girl, like she can take some shit, but I'm like, dude, she's got some crazy shit that goes on. And I'm just like, oh my god, I can't. I couldn't handle it. No, I wouldn't want to do it. I always say if Jay and I don't make it,

I'm literally going to be like Cher. I'll be 76 years old, dating fucking little 25, 26-year-olds, just so there's no like emotional commitment like everybody knows Women to like not that we're older, but I'm yeah Young mommy issues. Yeah, like I meet young guys. I'll be at the grocery store young guys are always like hi Yeah, get away from me child. Like what are you doing? Why are you staring at me like that? Looking at you like you're a steak. Yeah Chill bro. No, chill, bro.

It's kind of crazy. So let's circle back to you and Tommy just hooking up, getting together the media attention that you guys got. What was that like in the beginning for you? I feel like, and we talked about this a little bit off camera, is like the internet is just so cruel. And it's, I don't wanna say having to live in a shadow of his former relationship,

but pretty much like the internet will not let him move on and live happily ever after with you. Never. How do you feel about that? How do you deal with that? Like, where do we start with that? I mean, it's so heartbreaking, because I've been with my husband,

I think longer than any other relationships, except for Heather. I think he was with Heather for eight years. You're friends with Heather too, right? I love her. She's so sweet. I mean, and that's the thing, is if people are nice to me, I am nice to them.

If they are not nice to me, I am not nice to them. And you see a lot of what's on the media but you don't know what's happened in real life. And so people make their judgments like, oh, this person's so sweet and this person's this and this person's that. And I'm like, like you don't, people don't realize what is really happening.

You know, they are fed what media wants to feed them. You don't know these people personally. You don't know the way they've treated people and things like that. And it's not what people think. It's a machine. You don't know these people personally. You don't know the way they've treated people and things like that. And it's not what people think. It's very different. And there's a lot I can say and there's a lot I can't say, obviously,

because there's kids and Tommy's relationship with his kids, but- Do you get along with the boys? I do, I like the boys. Yeah, I mean, and Tommy had a crazy drinking problem. And I had never been around someone that had a crazy drinking problem. When you guys first got together,

you were still drinking. Yeah, so I didn't know like how bad this was. And I, you know, we were, we would be together and you'd be drinking all day, but he was still kind of like pretty, he was pretty regular, you know what I mean? Cause he was such an alcoholic, he could drink like a whole liter of Tito's

and be talking to you. Oh my goodness. It's pretty scary. But like for me, like I'd never been around. The house was liver. He's great now. Oh good. Yeah, now he's great, then not so much. So he was doing that and it caused a lot of contention

because the kids were living with us at the time and he didn't wanna go out in the living room because they were there with their friends. And so he'd be like, babe, can you go get me a drink? And I'm a sober person. I haven like, I'm so a sober person. I really don't, I haven't had a drink in like 10 years. Like I don't like it. And he would want me to drink with him,

but I'd already been sober pretty much before that. And so I wasn't into drinking. I wouldn't drink with him. You know what I mean? And so I would go to the kitchen and I would fill his glass with mostly water. And then I'd pour like a little bit of vodka in cause I was like, man, he's already had like way too many drinks. So I would just with mostly water and then I'd pour like a little bit of vodka in cause I was like, man, he's already had like

way too many drinks. So I would just put mostly water, but just enough so he could, you know, taste it. And then when he would go to bed at night, I would dump half the vodka out and I'd fill the bottle with water and I'd like shake it so that hopefully it wouldn't freeze cause vodka doesn't freeze.

So I had to make sure like, and then he would get mad sometimes cause it would be frozen and he'd be like, you put water in it again, you know what I mean? But the boys didn't know I was doing all this. So they would like see me going to the kitchen and they'd be like, think I'm making him drinks and enabling him. And so then they started to hate me.

And you know, then that was when that whole thing happened with Brandon, like the intervention, the punching, all this stuff, it was horrible. And then I talked to Tommy's manager. He is a really, a manager that really loves him. And I told him, I was like, we gotta get this guy sober. Like this is crazy, you know? Like he's killing himself.

And so we convinced Tommy somehow to go to rehab. And yeah, and the day of he didn't wanna go. And then Nikki Six came over and helped me put his ass in the car and took him over to Rehab and he was there for 45 days and he did really great and since then he's been doing really great He's fallen off the wagon like twice, but it was like really short stints, you know Which is expected, you know, especially from somebody, from Tommy Lee He's not perfect. I mean he's a massive alcoholic and to go from that much of an alcoholic to nothing,

that, you know, it was a lot. It was a lot. And then, you know, you have to, when you become sober, living with all those feelings and all these things that he hasn't felt in so long. And, you know, it took him a while, but now I feel like he's finally like really found his zen. You know, he doesn't even really talk about drinking.

He'll like make a joke here and there, but it's like, and that's what I think is so fucked is like, people will be like, oh, he's all coked out or whatever. Like, no, Tommy is sober. Tommy does not use drugs. Like stop fucking spreading shit about people. He fucking clips bonsai drinks. Yeah, he's hyper.

He's ADHD. He's a 17 year old man, like man, you know, 61 year old man. He's a child. He's like a very young personality because he got famous at 17. And so he's kind of always stayed like very childlike, you know, and that's what's sweet about him is that he is like a little like kid, you know, big kid.

But so yeah, so I mean, it's like, I'm just so proud of him because now he's really found his peace. Proud of you both. Yeah, I mean, we're doing, it's just so nice. And we just, we're just trying to live our life and not be pulled into, you know, the bullshit, man. Like it's just crazy.

Yeah, I saw what you were having to go through when the Pam and Tommy documentary draw, or not documentary, but the show. Oh, the, when the Hulu thing came. Well, that's like funny because like, so I started dating Tommy and Seth Rogan follows me. And I remember him watching, he would watch my stories and I would post with Tommy.

And then all of a sudden, like a couple months later, it's like, Seth Rogan's producing a Pam and Tommy series, like completely out of nowhere. And I was like, God, I hope I didn't give him the idea. I'm pretty sure he DM'd me. I have to check and was like, oh my God, is that Tommy Lee or something like that? Because he was shocked. But I have to check, but he was following, he follows me. And he DM'd me. I have to check and was like, oh my God, is that Tommy Lee or something like that? Because he was shocked.

But I have to check, but he was following, he follows me and he was following me then and like saw, I would see him see it, you know? And I'm like, that's weird. And then he now is producing, he would produce that show. And like that, you know, Tommy had nothing to do with that. Neither of them did.

And so, you know, people would say, oh, Tommy gave it his blessing, but not really. Only reason Tommy ended up in any way involved was because, God, who's the guy who played him? Now I'm like having a fucking, Sebastian Stan. So Sebastian is friends with Fred Durst. Because they did a movie together, Fred Durst is the director.

And so Fred called Tommy and was like, Sebastian really wants to meet you. He totally understands if you don't wanna meet him, you know, it's whatever,, Sebastian really wants to meet you. He totally understands if you don't want to meet him, you know, it's whatever, but he really wants to meet you. And so Tommy was like, okay, I'll meet him. Tommy's just so nice. You know what I mean? Tommy's just a nice guy.

And so we went out to dinner with Sebastian, of course got papped. And then everyone was like, Tommy's supporting it. And it was like, it wasn't even Tommy supporting it. It was literally Tommy just being nice to a guy who's friends with Fred and like Sebastian actually is such a nice guy and it's not like, you know what I mean?

An actor's just taking a job. You know, you can't hate the actor. You know what I mean? Like you're just like, they're trying to make money. So, you know, people spun out about that and were like, oh, well, why are you mad? Not mad about this, but you're mad about that. And I'm like, nobody's like, like, what are are you talking about we were friends but we were just being nice to

Sebastian it's crazy that they can come up with so many assumptions off one picture I'm so exhausted can we address the TikTok that that oh yeah that kind of caused so much it was so stupid on my part but it wasn't even a bad TikTok like joke I could kind of understand where you were coming from because you do get attacked so much online it was like a joke it wasn't even a bad TikTok. It was a joke. I could kind of understand where you were coming from because you do get attacked so much online. It was like a joke. It wasn't even to be like that. It was more like because what had happened is

as soon as that documentary came out, immediately within hours, people were flooding my page going, you're interrupting true love. They need to be back together. Meanwhile, I've already been with my husband for five years, longer than the whole relationship. And I'm like, this is just so insane. And I remember like, I don't have great mental health.

And so part of me, whenever anything makes me uncomfortable, my first thought is like, let's make a joke. Same, I laugh at the most inappropriate shit all the time. And I don't think sometimes before I act. And I was just like, this is funny. And so I just did it. And even Tommy just like, this is funny. And so I just did it and even Tommy was like, it's funny, whatever. And then I posted it and I was like,

oh God, this is gonna get taken the wrong way. And of course it did. And then so I just took it down right away. It was more just like an intrusive thought, like acting on like an intrusive thought. And then somebody already screenshotted it and sent it to the Daily Mail. I literally posted it for like three seconds

and then people spun it. The internet is like that telephone game, you know? Oh yeah, yeah. Where it was like news or something and then by the time it gets to like the fucking 20th person, it's like, you know, yeah. So I was just like, you know what? I just need to shut the fuck up at this point.

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to you and be like, Hey girl, girl Like love you. I'm sorry. I mean when I first started dating Tommy You know and all this stuff happened with Brandon and Tommy's alcoholism. She blamed me in a public diary Oh and said Brittany's the reason Tommy is drinking so much and that she's an alcoholic and he needs someone to behave bad with. This has since been removed from her like online open journal thing, but it was on there. And I remember being really hurt by that. Never got an apology for that.

Even though I'm like, I don't even drink. What are we talking about? Like, this is crazy. And I think it's on like somewhere. And then of course everyone's like, yeah, I could see Brittany, she's a alcoholic drug addict. And I'm like, I'm like scared of everything, like let alone fucking getting wasted.

And so I was really hurt by that. And then also it was just like, you know, the texting Tommy here and there and being like, yeah, like, hey, like pictures of yourself, whatever. So it was just like annoying and it was more just like, oh, like this is not a good vibe. Whereas with Heather, like Heather would text both of us and be like, do you guys wanna come over?

Do you wanna hang out? Blah, blah, blah, just like a totally different vibe. And it was a very friendly welcoming vibe. And so, I wish her the best. I really do, I hope, because it's sad. I can't imagine being so in love with someone still and not being with them and then being with someone else. That must really hurt.

You know what I mean? Fuck the pain. That must really fucking hurt and it's really sad probably. And for her sake, she's beautiful, she still looks great and I hope she meets someone else and falls in love. I really do because the pain of wanting something, like I love my husband, I'm not going anywhere. You know what I mean?

Like, I mean, let's God forbid some freak accident happens, you know, but like, I just like, man, like I, and I, and I almost like, I was upset at first, and now I'm just like, I'm more like, I feel bad. And I'm like, that must suck, you know, to like really care for someone so much still and not be with them, you know, to like really care for someone so much still and not be with them, you know?

So I have sympathy. Absolutely. You know, I try to put myself now. That's very mature though. I try, I try to put myself in other people's shoes. Like, is it my favorite thing? No, but like, it's like, you know, like, I think like a lot of women who get it

are people that have a baby mama that is still in love with their husband, you know what I mean? And I think they get it, but I think if you don't have that, you don't get it. You know what I mean? So- Jay has two baby mamas.

One I can get along with amazingly, she's a great woman, and the other one is a fucking nightmare. So there's just, it just depends. Like it's just, you know, that's just life. You're gonna get on the, some people and some people not. I mean, you know, and that doesn't's just, you know, that's just life. You're gonna get out in the air some people and some people not. I mean, you know, and that doesn't mean that, you know, they're a bad person.

It's just that, you know, it's not the vibe. And, you know, I've always, you know, the thing is same thing as you is like, I've always wanted to be friends with everybody because that's how I am. But it was like from the get go, it was immediately like made very clear to me that that was not, you know, that was how I am. But it was like from the get go, it was immediately like made very clear to me that that was not, you know, that was not the vibe.

So I was like, okay, cool. Um, you know, I didn't know my place. But also like, this is my husband. So that was the hardest thing too, is like going through all that and having people be like, it's none of your business. And I'm like, how is this none of my business? This is literally my husband that I like worked really hard with to like get healthy and like, how is this none of my business? This is literally my husband that I worked really hard with to get healthy

and we're so happy and just wanna be, just be able to be happy and have everyone stop making shows and TV, movies and Hallmark and fucking whatever else. You know what I mean? And have people come on my page and tell me that like, whatever. Do you feel like you're not allowed

to ever have an opinion too whenever it comes to that? Yeah, I can't say shit. Everything. I'm always the bad guy. I'm probably gonna get hate for this. Like, yeah, I think you're being very honest and I think you're being very open. And I think that's fair. Yeah. I mean, you're allowed to have feelings

and not have to push them down. And you haven't said anything that is, I think everything you've said is so grown and mature. So. Yeah, I mean, I just, I get it. We're all hurting from something. We're all trying to live our lives and get along the best we can.

And that's all we can do. You know what I mean? You know, I'm not perfect. I've definitely, you know, I already struggle with my mental health. And so I've said and done things where I'm like, God, Brittany, fucking think sometimes before you speak, you know, but what can you do?

Nobody gives us a handbook on life. No. And how we're supposed to react to certain things and people don't realize when you're not in the spotlight and you're not getting hundreds of thousands of shit thrown at you every fucking day, like you'll never understand it. The people that are trolling literally have zero followers

and I don't mean that to be, to insult anybody, but you don't know what it feels like to live in shoes of people who are online and have to, you know, who have opened ourselves up to that. So, yeah. I think it's frustrating to like see stories made up about you. Oh, girl.

Like that one's like, that one blows my mind. Yeah. A really big gossip column online. And they wrote something like when the documentary came out like, oh, well don't feel bad for Brittany because all she does is complain about her husband anyway. And I was like, what? And I wrote to the girl who runs the page

cause she published it. And the girl was like, oh, it's someone from your yoga class that sent this in. And I'm like, bitch, I don't do yoga. Like I don't even walk fast, like let alone, I don't exercise. I don't even fucking touch my toes. You know what I'm saying? She's like, I am not limber.

And I said to her, I said, I don't do yoga. I said, I don't even have a yoga class. I'd appreciate it if you took it down and she didn't. You can't. They just wanna have fake shit out there. I've learned that lesson. I learned that lesson actually this month. It started last year when I started getting dragged

on TikTok for having a podcast with people who come and tell their side of the story. The only reason people hate me is because of this podcast, literally. Which is insane. It's wild, right? And this year, somebody, I didn't learn my lesson last year, so the universe sent me the same lesson this year with another bitch who fucking? Tried to like make paint this picture of me being this terrible human when I reached out to her like hey girl

This is the truth. This is what's going on if you do this This is what's gonna happen like I just try to keep it real and keep it to you with everybody Twisted my words twisted twisted screenshots, posted them, made a video. Her and this other girl tried, didn't put everything in there though. They only put what fucking made their narrative look good. And I didn't respond. For once in my life I was like, you know what?

I don't give a fuck. Think what you want. People are gonna fucking make up whatever they want. And it's like, you can't reason with those people because your narrative doesn't make them money or get them attention. So they have to paint their own narrative. It's so crazy, dude, how people spin shit. And I didn't even hear anything about that. So this bitch can't even be that

popular. Oh, no, she's not. Yeah. I heard anything about it. That was like when the whole thing happened with Trisha Paytas, who like, I don't have anything against Trisha Paytas. Um, I'm friends with Jason, who she was seeing at the time, and they dressed up as my husband and his ex for Halloween or a bunch of pictures or something, and then they tagged him in every picture. And my husband saw it and he wasn't sober at the time and he made like a rude comment. And then I did never said anything to her,

but she had also on Twitter been like, why is Brittany Furlan with Tommy Lee? That's so weird. And then when I responded to her, she was like, oh no girl, I totally stan it. And I was like, okay. Anyway, so then I actually wrote her a DM and I think I still have them where I said

I was so sorry about that. You know, he's struggling with alcoholism, whatever. I sent her a message. I'm pretty sure I probably still have them, but I was so nice about that. You know, he's struggling with alcoholism, whatever. I sent her a message. I'm pretty sure I probably still have them, but I was so nice and she was like, uh-uh-uh, I'm making a YouTube video about it. And you're going like, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And like-

Trisha did? Yeah, no matter how much I like was like nice, she was like, uh-uh, like dah, dah, dah. And I was like, okay, like, cool. Well, I said my piece and you know, I apologize if we hurt you in any way, but it ended up becoming a huge thing and I'm just like, everybody just, you know.

Yeah, it's just our thing for like, I'm not used to that. Like if we're gonna have a situation, let's fucking come to talk to each other like grown ass women and let's move on from it. Like I literally can't stand when everybody wants to go to the fucking internet. No dude.

Like you don't have to fucking post every, is your life that boring that you have to just take screenshots that I fucking Wrote and fucking post them online of me literally explaining a situation to you I wish you would have posted what we wrote, but yeah, of course, but anyway, yeah, I was talking about my personal Yeah, no, I get it like honestly like I'm just like by guns we got by guns people grow people change You know, like I don't have any Yeah, whatever. I think Trisha You know since she had her baby and is married and actually like real happiness. Yeah safe space

Yeah, I feel like I've seen a lot of growth. I don't know her. She seems really happy Yeah, so that's great I think that makes a huge difference with how people treat other people if you aren't happy in your life at that moment and I think her and Jason had like a really fucked up yeah I don't know the details and I don't even care to get into it but I think when you're going through that and you're just fucking hurting you're just your normal reaction is hurt people hurt people yeah and I know she struggles with her mental health I mean it was more on Jason because Jason and I have known each other forever.

Yeah. Like, you know, through comedy, and like, I was just kinda like, really Jason? Like, really? Yeah. Like, I don't deal with this enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure.

Like, it's just exhausting, but then I also, like, it's a growing thing for me where I have to learn that I can't control it. Yeah. I just gotta let people do what they're gonna do, you know? I can't be mad at everybody that wants to fuckin', ugh, whatever. I just don't like when people pretend to be my friend

and then they do that stuff. I'm just like, okay. Like, I'm fucking done, guys. Like, I don't know what more you wanna fucking do. Like, it's exhausting. Yeah. Can we move on to Tommy's bonsais? Oh yeah, for sure.

Oh my God, he loves bonsai trees. It saves his life. Yeah. He's just so zen. I mean, he's probably got like 200. Oh my God. Yeah, dude, he's, people are like, oh Tommy's on cocaine.

Like every time I see a post of him, they're like, oh look at it, like he's on drugs or whatever. I'm like, no, this dude is literally sitting there fucking, like Mr. Miyagi just fucking clipping his little trees. It probably helps his ADD. Do you do it with him? I know I asked you this earlier. Hell no, fucking clipping his little trees. It probably helps his ADD. Do you do it with him? I know I asked you this earlier.

Hell no, I am way too impatient. I mean, I do my jewelry. Yeah. Like I'll go in my room and do my necklaces and he'll be out there doing his bonsais. Or sometimes like I'll lay out in tan while he's bonsaying. And I will sometimes just like sit with him and talk to him while he does it.

But you know, he is just like a different guy, you know? He's no drama. He's just very peaceful. He just wants to do his trees. He just wants to like a different guy. He's no drama, he's just very peaceful. He just wants to do his trees. He just wants to have a happy life. He doesn't wanna deal with anything. He doesn't wanna deal with anyone. He just wants to be peaceful.

It's just us and our dogs, our little wiener dogs, and we are so in love with them. And we just have our happy little- A little safe space. Safe vibe, happy vibe. We cook dinner together every night. We sit and have dinner together every night. And you know, life is good, man. I'm so grateful.

Like, I really am. And I'm so grateful for his sobriety and his commitment to his sobriety and his health. That's a different level of intimacy is when you get sober together. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was already not, you know, I was already on the, I was already on that path.

Right. Having him also is amazing. And you know, now he's gonna try to quit smoking. Wow. You know what I mean? I was already on that path, but having him also is amazing. And now he's gonna try to quit smoking. Wow, like cigarettes? Yeah, he's been smoking cigarettes his whole life. And he really doesn't want to anymore, but it's like, I think when you're in-

Acupuncture, my dad got off smoking marble reds by getting acupuncture where they put a wire in your ear. And anytime he would get a craving, he would hit this pressure point and it would take the craving away. Stop. That is amazing. Look into that for him.

So that's his next thing that he really wants to try to do. But he's like, I'm not gonna rush it. Cause it's like the one thing he has that keeps him kind of, he has like that addiction personality. And so he's gonna try, you know, and like, I would love that. Then he's gonna like literally live forever.

Yeah. Like this man is so healthy. I mean, he's Tommy Lee, he's gonna be here forever. Like it's kind of crazy because people are like, oh, his organs must be so fucked up and all this shit, but we went and did those body scans, right? Oh, with Doc Amen. No, no, no, I did the brain scan with Doc Amen.

I did do that. How do you feel like that was? Is it a scam? You know, I really liked Dr. Aiman. I don't really know the science behind it or what it sees, but it was almost like I sat with him and I kind of told him everything that I'd been through. And then he told me what I had. I think it would have been cooler

if like I had the brain scan, didn't tell him anything. And then he told me, you know, a little bit the opposite. I was gonna do it, but then I read a bunch of reviews and you know, I'm not knocking it at all. But I just. Listen, I don't know. I think he's a nice guy and I think he does care about helping people.

I don't know enough about the technology, but I did think it was cool because it did show me my brain, but I wasn't sure exactly, you know, he explained like, you know, these parts lit up meant trauma and that kind of thing, but I'd already told him like I had trauma. So I was kind of not sure if it was.

It's kind of like a psychic when you go to a psychic and tell a psychic everything. Yeah, you tell them everything. And then they're like, oh, who's Mike? And you're like, I just told you about him. Dude, I gave you his last name too. You can't even remember it. What the fuck?

Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know, but I do think he does really care about people. And I do think that, you know, he tries to help people. And so I always like love that. So I don't know, but then we did do a full body scans and mine is like a mess. And like, I have a cyst in the middle of my brain.

I have polycystic, I have PCOS, which is polycystic ovarian syndrome. So I have, do you have PCOS too, Hailey? Oh, guys, you both do. Do you take metformin or nothing? Yeah, me neither. Metformin made me so sick. Made me so sick.

And so I just barely eat. Have you ever had your hormones checked? Oh yeah. So I have, technically don't really show PCOS on my hormones, but then when they did my MRI, they saw it everywhere. Yeah, so they did it. My ovaries both are full of cysts.

And I've thought about getting a hysterectomy, but then that comes with its own menopause. And so I already have such anxiety that I was like, fuck, and then you can get a partial and it's like kind of complicated. But I have a bleeding disorder, so I'm like, God, what if I die on the table? Then it'll be not worth it.

So I get paranoid. But anyway, so mine was a mess. His literally was perfect. Like I was like, nothing wrong with the liver, nothing wrong, I have cysts in my liver. I feel like you son of a bitch. I'm like, this motherfucker, cysts in my liver, cysts in my breasts, cysts in my ovaries, I'm so cysty.

I have early onset spine disease, which is probably from my breast. Where is this body scan? I wanna go get one done. So this is called Prunuvo. Okay. So it's like $2,500 and you get a full body MRI and they tell you everything that's wrong with you.

How long do they have to, do you have to stay in that one? Just one hour and you watch Netflix. It's so close though. They put Netflix. I know if you're claustrophobic, but it's open on both ends. And there's a tech in there with you and you have a little thing in your hand

that if you get uncomfortable, you squeeze it. Cause I'm like that too. Yeah, this is it, Pranuvo. And you get a full report of everything. Like literally from your head to your tippy toes. So they found everything in me. The spine disease, I had, I have the cyst in my ovaries, the cyst in my breast,

a cyst in the middle of my brain. God, I'm trying to think. I had fluid in my cul de sac. Did they give you any options for like healing this stuff? So I went to my doctor, who I love, Dr. Amrani, and he basically told me like, you know, well he had me do no gluten, no dairy for like a year and all my cysts went away.

But I love it too much to like do no gluten and no dairy. Like, bitch, I was eating like, I was, I'm no sugar, no gluten, no dairy. How do you fucking eat, dude? I eat the same, I'm like eat the same thing every day. That's it. And so we were on tour and I did it for a year and I had no cysts and I didn't feel any different though.

That was the thing. I only had no cysts, but I didn't feel any better. Right. And so I, on tour ended up being like, fuck it. I'm just eating whatever I want again and all the cysts are back, but I don't feel any different cysts or no cysts. It's kind of weird, like I still have really painful periods.

I still have like really bad endo, like, you know, so it kind of is what it is. And, you know, my doctor's like, you don't really need to worry about it. It's like benign shit. Like he had my breast cyst checked, they're just cysts. My liver cysts are just cysts. It's just cysts, so they're not gonna do anything.

The only one I have to watch is like the one in my brain. If it grows, it can cause neurological issues. Like I need more of those. Ah! It's like already happening right now. You never know. It could like do the complete fucking opposite. At this point, like what do we have to lose?

Let's roll the dice, right? I'm like, it's just fucking nice. I'm like, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr. Are you okay? I'm, buh, buh, buh like are you okay? I'm bye bye bye bye bye. No but apparently like that's the only thing I really have to look out for and then the spine disease so I try to wear I try to my dad's always telling he's gonna yell at me put your shoulders back so like my boobs are so heavy they pull my spine forward. When I had my boobs done that was

the same way my the implants were so heavy. You still have big boobs. These are my real ones. I mean, I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.

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I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not fucking 34 triple D. They're nice. I'm gonna show you when we're done. I can't wait. They're crazy. I can't wait. They hurt.

I mean, and then I thought about- She said they hurt. I do, and I've thought about a breast reduction, but my husband's like, don't you dare. You're gonna have that crazy scar and like they're so pretty. No, if not if you go to a microsurgeon. Really?

They'll be able to do it like super, super thin. Really? I always feel like I had one girlfriend of mine who she, they took the nipple off and then they took and then they put it back on and it looks crazy. Yeah, that's- Looks like someone chewed on the nipples and sewed them back on.

Like someone ate the pepperoni and then fucking put it back on. I'm like, what the fuck? It's like a kid's pizza. Yeah, I'm like, what is that? She had those beautiful nipples and then now they look like they fucking- Damn it.

Frankensteined her back together. I was like, ah! Oh fuck, we hate that. Shit, dude. Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to do. Yours look great. I love you.

She had the X-Plant. Yes, I did. That's pretty good for you because that causes its own issues. Yeah, well, my fucking, I had one, I had a lobster claw size scar tissue because my implant folded. So it was a whole thing,

but it was because I was having such bad anxiety. Like I did everything I could to clean my body out and just try to fucking heal, you know You look great. I love you. And you like got good energy Good job Like I can tell and she's like I don't eat sugar. I'm like, how do you live? Like I'm over here like chugging my sugar ass like I'm like I need it or I'm gonna start shaking Yeah, I appreciate you so much. That's crazy.

Brittany, I can sit here and talk to you all night long. I feel bad because we did your podcast before this. And I mean, I could just literally sit here and just pick your brain all day long. But I'm really looking forward to us hanging out and telling you because I adore you. We got to get Tommy and Jay together. Yeah, they would love each other. Dude, yeah, we have to get them together because I have a feeling that Jace so childlike to yeah

They have the same fucking energy. They just play video games together literally dead. We're just sitting there Tommy play Yeah, oh my god. I we got to link them on the game. He plays the golf like Jay does the what does he play a Call of Duty? These guys but god bless them there were lucky to have them. They're good guys. Definitely. Well, they got good women too. Amen. Yeah, they got good pickers.

Yeah. Thank you for coming on the podcast. And come back anytime you want to check in. If you have anything you wanna promote or anything like that. Yeah, I mean, we have our podcast, This Is the Worst with me and Brittany Schmidt. And we talk about all the worst things

that have ever happened to us and anyone else. you can write in and tell us your worst stories and I do the jewelry which is just lovely jewelry on Instagram. Lovely with two E's. Yeah yeah and then I'm doing stand-up I post dates just like randomly I'm not like on tour right now but I've been doing LA so if you're in LA. Which I'm so proud of you for doing that for getting back into it. Yeah it's therapy for sure. Thanks for having me. Thank you so much. You're the best. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde.

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