Dumb Blonde - TBT: Ed Gein - Murder and Mommy Issues

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

Throwback ThursdayBunnie and Meme dim the lights and bolt the doors for a bone-chilling installment of the Murder Mystery Series. This week, they dive into the twisted world of Ed Gein—better known as “The Butcher of Plainfield.” One of the most infamous killers and grave robbers in history, Gein’s gruesome crimes went on to inspire horror classics like The Silence of the Lambs and House of 1000 Corpses. From his disturbing bond with his mother, to the moment he developed a taste for blood, to the bizarre trophies he kept, this episode will leave you rethinking pigs, shoeboxes, and what true terror really looks like.Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Because not only do we have episodes of the podcast, we have exclusive content that nobody else sees on any other apps, behind the scenes, photo shoots, and we're dropping a whole bunch of surprising stuff this year. So if you guys don't want to miss out and you want to be the first to know, go over to our Patreon, www.w.com. Love you. Is this thing on? Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast, Dunblanc. Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money, and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal. the child and here we are what's up guys you guys are really loving this um

little fucking series that we're doing so today it's just me and mimi hey guys hi me so everybody is loving you on the podcast i've come to find that out i didn't think i mean i don't know i just didn't think they knew enough about me to want me on here all the comments everyone's so nice to me i know so we might we might be making me Mimi the trusty steed we don't know yet though we'll definitely we're getting a new studio so when you guys see the new set then you'll know if she's coming on or not we'll do like a little reveal yeah for sure hold on one second my husband's texting me we're sexting right now oh shit um well today we are going to dive into one of mimi's favorite serial killers which i love him so much

I'm reading this story and I'm just so fucking sick to my stomach. And she said the craziest thing to me because she's like, I don't feel like he was a serial killer. And I'm like, this dude is fucking, something's wrong with him. He's a psychopath. He's my favorite psychopath. I don't believe he was a serial killer. No.

He got off on the idea of death. Right. Not the idea of killing. Right. And he only killed a couple of people, right? It technically three people and that's what makes you a serial killer. Right. Three people.

But he dug up. the corpses majority everyone else that he handled was already dead of natural calls right but to have compassion for a weirdo like this it's going to be hard for me to find i feel like this is similar to the isle more no story no she kind of you know had a heart at least she loved you know girls and fucking only killed men completely different when we so for those of you who don't know who we're talking about we're talking about ed gine ed gine and he's pretty pretty spiced see. I mean, I got her roped in by telling her a very key part of this story. And she said, oh, we're doing it. So when you guys get to the pot, I'm going to tell you guys. But this was

and, you know, I, when I was in high school, I became obsessed with studying serial killers, more for the psychological side of things. I wanted to know why these people chose to make these decisions in life. And Ed Geen happened to be one of them. And even in high school, I remember thinking to myself, like, I don't feel like he's a serial killer. I feel like he's a psychopath. He's one of the most iconic psychopaths of, you know, history, but serial killer, no. Yeah. I don't know. Well, we're going to let you guys decide for yourself. I don't think he's a serial killer either. I do agree with you on that. But I do feel like he's a few grape short of a fruit salad, for sure. He's a few tacos short of a taco truck. Like this dude. And, you know,

it's crazy because his mom was so super fucking religious so i feel like those are the real weirdos are the people whose parents i'm one of them who were super strict and super just like overbearing and like shoved religion down their throat it's like a different fear that it creates and and it's all he knew you know like it's one if if some if i had a child and as that child was being raised if i told them that the color red was blue that's the name of of it and they got older they would know no different right they would think the color red is named blue yeah and i feel like in these incidents that's exactly it i feel like he knew no different right he was almost like brainwashed for sure definitely brainwashed yeah yeah i would definitely

agree with you on that you think they can see the hair on my legs from here i just really gonna yeah i mean i'm looking right at you on the tv screen and it's all up front and personal listen when you're married you don't shave your legs i shaved today for the first time just because i was like you know what it's almost winter maybe i should shave my e-walk and i'm just growing my winter coat out yeah i had to do it one last time i was like i just want to see what she looks like without hair just one last time i forget i miss her i forget what she looks like without hair sometimes although i don't like hair i'm very like my hair is not very hairy anyways you don't have hair at all you don't even have hair on your eyebrows being around my dad i've realized he's not

hairy. No. So that's why, thank God. My mom was a bushwhacker. No hair. Really? Oh, yeah. That's funny that you'd get the dad's jeans. Yeah. That's crazy. Normally you get the mom's jeans. I have a lot of my dad's jeans, actually. You're so much like your dad. Oh, it's crazy. We were over there. Not to, we'll get, well, I swear we're going to the murderer soon, but we were over there the other day. And my dad, just when he's over something, he's over it. And I'm the same way. Literally, I'm the same way. And I'm like, all right, I got to go. Like, that's literally what I'll do. And that's what my dad. I'll do. He'd be like, all right, well, it was really nice seeing you and, you know, come and see me tomorrow. I'll be like, you just don't. I know. I'm like, Billy, you just asked me to

fucking sit here and show you something. Yeah, yeah, but I'm tired. We'll deal with that tomorrow. And I'm like, okay, well, see you later. But Kayla was like, dude, you are just like your dad. You made the same facial expressions. Like, I have my dad's hand. Oh, no, no, I'm sorry, I have my mom's hands, my dad's feet, my dad's arms. I was like, dad, can you grow any fucking muscles? Because I can't. No matter how hard I fucking work out, my upper body. just stays the same he's like nope never could that's crazy but this this kind of ties into the story that we're talking about is like you get true qualities from your parents even if you didn't spend a lifetime with these parents yeah for sure truly like uh we you talked about once you kind of you know

reconnected with your mom you're like wow yeah wow there was little things that she would do that you do and like you guys weren't raised together though she showed me everything i didn't want to ever become yeah and but now that you're with your dad too and having him so close again later on in life you realize there's so many qualities we don't realize that we get from our parents oh yeah for sure i'm so glad i turned out more like my dad i have my mom's anxiety and i have her like nervous tics and stuff like that were passed on genetically versus you have mannerisms of your father tremendously yeah yeah and thank god because my mom was fucking white trash hillbilly dude she had no fucking coooth dude rest in peace Vanessa but you're a

fucking lunatic she came on the bailey sky posted or I'm sorry. I always call her Bailey Sky because that's her name on TikTok, but Amy Bailsky, the psychic on TikTok, did a reading for Jay and I. And in that reading, my mom decides to come through. Nobody else from my side of the fucking world wants to come through. All of Jay's family members did. But here comes my mom. And the first thing she asks is me to take her ashes on the tour bus with her. She wanted to go on tour. And I was like, you know I'm never going to touch your ashes. We're not doing that. Yeah. Like, you know, I'm never going to touch your ashes, not happening. But yeah, that's... When we're moving the other day, my mom comes out and she's like, I was like, what's wrong? She goes like, I just found grandma.

She's like, can someone go get her, please? Oh, fuck. I hate that, dude. I didn't even know we had her. I'm so weird about ashes in our house. We keep another other houses, yeah, because I don't want them in our house because I have a crazy story about something that happened with me with ashes. is. So should I tell it?

Yeah. Okay. I was waiting. Do you see me? Yeah. So I was living with my ex-boyfriend at the time, and this dude had lost his mom. This is the craziest story ever, but this dude lost his mom. And we were having kind of like a get-together, a barbecue or something. And he brings this urn with her ashes over to the barbecue. And I'm like, what the fuck is that happening? Like, who does that, right? But I mean, who are we to judge anybody's way of grieving or whatever? well everybody ends up getting smashed at this fucking little house party barbecue whatever and I wake up the next morning and this woman's ashes are in my fucking kitchen and I'm like okay and at this time I didn't have quite a diversion to ashes but this is why I do now because those ashes sat on my counter for at least two weeks and the dude we kept calling him like hey come get your mom come get your mom come get your mom like we don't want these ashes here we want to make sure that that you get them back. And he was just like, oh, just keep them there, you know, like, just completely, like,

blowing it off that fucking his mom, his dead mother was in my kitchen. Well, for those two weeks, I kept getting the most severe headaches. And, like, it would start in my neck and, like, be in my head and my throat. I kept feeling, like, weird, like, suffocation feelings. And, like, I just felt like this woman died a violent death. And I could not figure it out. At first, I thought there was something. wrong with me. I was like, what is going on? I'm fucking picking up on something. Like, what's happening?

Because I've always been like really susceptible to anxiety and stuff like that. So I brushed that off. And then one day I was like, it's these fucking ashes. And I'm like, call him and ask him how his mom died. As the weather cools and leaves start to change, it's the perfect time to refresh your pantry for fall. So whether you're carving pumpkins, stocking up on cinnamon, or grabbing ingredients for that perfect apple crumble, Instacart can do the picking for you. And help deliver everything, right to your door. It's the easiest way to embrace all the cozy moments of the season. Instacart is more than a grocery store technology platform. It's a care company designed to make life easier. With just a few taps, you can shop from your favorite stores and have fresh groceries

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See MintMobile for details. And so my ex calls his mom, calls him, sorry. My ex calls the dude and he's like, My mom died a severely violent death. Her, she died from domestic violence. Her boyfriend stabbed her in her neck and strangled her. And I'm like, this woman doesn't want to be in these ashes, dude. Like she's screaming for, to be let out of these ashes. She doesn't want to be in this fucking box, you know? I was like, do you want to sprinkle your mom's ashes anywhere?

And he's like, no, you could just keep, you know, pretty much. I don't know. We were fucking partying back then. He might have just been a drug addict and fucking. Who knows if this is mom? Right. We're like, I don't know who we ended up with. But anyways, so I took her ashes to the nearest graveyard.

And in Vegas, there's a graveyard out there that has a lake in it. And I opened up her ashes and I spread them all over the lake. And I just kind of like set a prayer for her and just kind of released her into the earth again. And when I tell you the relief that was lifted off of my shoulders when these ashes were released, I didn't have a headache. neck didn't hurt the next day, nothing. And I could feel her like thinking me. I could see a visual of like a woman just thanking me, you know? And ever since then, I don't keep ashes in my house because I just don't, you know, people are like, oh, well, it's, they're just remains. There's no energy there. There's energy wherever people want their energy to go. Exactly. Lauren taught us that.

They will follow themselves. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So that's my story of why I don't keep ashes in my house. If anybody else has any weird ashes stories, let me know. Yeah, for real. That's so scary. And I want to think back, like, knowing that grandma was in our house this all time. Like, damn. Grandma's probably peaceful, though. She's probably happy where she's at and watching the kids grow up and stuff like that. I'm sure she's exactly that. We love Grandma Vera. I love the name Vera. I've always loved that name. Grandma Vera, Nicole. So Olivia is Olivia Sunnacle. So for my mom and Nicole for Grandma Vera. But she was a beautiful woman. I loved Grandma Vera. She was very hardheaded. I'm talking very hardheaded. We love a spicy grandma. Man, she was like

five foot and would kick anyone's ass. That's how my bovo was. Yes. 4-11 and fucking would beat my dad with brushes. Literally like her son back talked her one time. Jason said they were driving down the road and she said something. He disagreed. She pulled over on the highway so get the fuck out of my car and kicked Donnie out of the car. Good. I love a spicy grandma. She was so like she lived in the hood too like in the hood and she was so damn nosy she would stand out there in her bathrobe smoking her cigarettes just watching everybody deal drugs and stuff she'd be like he's my motherfuckers I love it moves to the hood pissed off whenever fucking drug deals are going down exactly that's hilarious all right well let's dive into this disgusting story over your mic just a little because

I think it's covering your face no worries let's dive into this fucking listen if you're eating right now do not fucking eat I'm just going to give a disclaimer If you're eating right now, which we're about to eat too. So I don't know how I'm about to do this. But if you're eating right now, hurry up and eat and then listen to this, pause the fucking, yeah, come back. Yeah, come back because it gets really gross. And it's so I don't know if you guys know the story of Ed Gein. It's pretty, pretty fucking.

Gore warning. Yeah, for sure. Also, like religious trauma winning. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like you already touched on that, but like you got to really touch on that. No, for sure. It brought some stuff up for me when I was reading this.

story yeah i was just like oh god i could i can relate to that yeah for sure all right so ed gine the house of horrors he's also known as the butcher of plainfield or the plainfield ghoul um so let me just say i my favorite movie in the whole white world is house of a thousand corpse yes um i actually have a house of a thousand corpse tattoo house of a thousand corpses um i i love this movie yeah i mean movies that were made after him were the House of a Thousand Corpses, Silence of the Lambs, and Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Those are all great movies.

Well, there was like a huge list of them too. So if you guys died deep, there's like a big list of them. These were some of the main ones. But Otis, which is played by Rob Zombie, kind of, you know, made some things. Channeled him. Yeah, channeled him. That's a great word.

Channeled Ed Gein when creating that character. And when you guys are done listening to this story, go watch one of those and you will totally pick up on the little thing. So when I was in high school, learning about Ed Gein, it was cool because I was able to relate it to that House of a Thousand Corpse.

Um, Ed Gein. House of a thousand corpses. Corpses, sorry. Oh, we say corpse. Um, Ed Gein, Edward Theodore Gein, also called the butcher of Plainfield, was born on August 27th,

19, 2006. They say that Virgo's, Gemini's, and Pisces are the main serial killer birth signs. Yes. No way. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. wonder why do you think it's their temperament pise's men are very violent so yeah i could see that

and very emotional which makes them violent can be not all of them and then virgo i have a lot of virgo placements and i'm extremely fucking just mean so i could only imagine a virgo man look at cash cash is a wild card so yeah yeah i totally see that man he got a little serious baby serial killer Oh, I love it. It's either Joe Dirt or a serial killer, so, you know, one of the two. He's a wild child, man. Like last night, he was not, I ended up being, I was like, you're a bad boy because he like wouldn't, he kept like running and jumping off the bed and waking up his sister. And I was like, will you just lay down, please. You're being a bad boy. And he looked at him. He was like, I'm being a good boy. I was like, please don't do that to me. um so um ed was born in july of 19 no i'm sorry august of uh 1906 and he lived until 1984 like this dude lived a long fucking life yeah evil always lives long for some reason you lived into your 80s back in that day yeah crazy to think about yeah that's nuts how old was he he was about

what 82 yeah crazy yeah like that's a long life to live and you lived a crazy life at that and the shit he's seen like why would you want to be alive to see that yeah and like to reminisce about it that's so wild yeah oh let's get into his childhood um so he was born to a religious mother augusta gine he was augusta's second born child following the birth of a baby boy henry george gine in January 1901. I wonder if Henry was a Capricorn or an Aquarius. I wonder which one he was. Ooh, let's look that up real fast.

Yeah, can you get like a real date on him? Because that would under, that would, I was reading the story, you know, and we'll get into it later on, but that would explain why some things happened between the brothers. Okay. Because January 17th. Oh, okay. So he's right on the same cusses as me. He's a Cap Aquarius.

Yeah, he wasn't putting up with that shit. No. He was like, what the fuck is wrong with you, Ed? Yeah. Yeah, seriously. So the boy's father, George Gein, drank alcohol excessively and was unable to hold down a job for long periods of time. This infuriated Augusta, who harbored deep resentment towards her husband, but she never pursued a divorce due to her beliefs on the subject. Probably like religious beliefs, right?

Yes, absolutely. As a result, Edna's older brother Henry were raised within a temperamental household. I wonder if that means, is that if that's a good wording for violence. that's yeah i really feel like those two probably endured a lot with their father because they they talk about how unhealthy the relationship was between the mother and the father that back in that day you have an alcoholic father he's definitely beating the shit out of you yeah for sure for sure yeah because child abuse wasn't a thing back then they believed that you should beat your children back then for sure my um my grandfather on my dad's side raging alcoholic and there was five

children and like to the point that he would break the kids bones like he beat the shit out of these children so so so so bad that's terrible i could never do that to a child you know my dad was born in the 40s like that they don't they just kind of like kids deserve to be beaten god yeah that's terrible i i understand a little swat on the butt every now and then but if i can to break a kid's bones yeah like hurting those children like that's crazy i grew up in a very violent household so i don't we don't like bailey has never been spanked in her life the child doesn't know what it's like to be a spanked, you know, but I understand, like, when you're raising a child, if you, like, swat them on the butt, like, if they go to, like, touch a fucking hot stove or something

like that, you know, but not listen after the fifth time, but being, fucking beat your child. Absolutely not. No, I couldn't do that. So Augusta rarely showed affection towards the two sons. She believed that they were condemned to be disappointments just like their father. Augusta would often preach to them from the Bible, and she instilled into them that the beliefs of alcohol and all women, except for herself, of course, were the pinnacles of morality.

Immorality, for sure. She, uh, it sounds to me like she was extremely narcissistic and she probably had a god complex. Oh, the fact that they only can like praise her. Right. As a woman, like God forbid should you find affection in any other woman but your mother? Yeah. Like how did she expect them to like continue on their bloodline?

I don't think she thought of that. Yeah. I think it was, that's why I think she was narcissistic because it was always just about her. And I think she felt so bad about the dad because the dad probably didn't give her the attention she wanted. So she had these two boys and was just like worship me. Yeah. Do you think, do you think that she had some type of, I don't know, this is just how I feel

like psychotic tendencies. Possibly. That then, you know, trickled into. I'm sure the dad was beating on her too. So I'm sure the only thing that she could control was her two kids. She couldn't control the father. Yeah, so she, you know, came up with, you, when you're in situations like that, you try to find other things that you can control because everything else is so out of control in your life. Oh, that makes so much sense.

From early childhood, Ed developed a very close relationship with his mother. Strong beliefs about women considered as an instrument of the devil and a total aversion to any form of transgression became ingrained in him. So that means like anything sexual, he would. not allowed to think or touching himself or anything yeah outwardly speaking about other women and his thoughts yeah I couldn't imagine raising a little boy to hate women like that no that's so weird like you're also telling someone a natural feeling that you have you know like a teen boy when he hit puberty imagine like how much trauma that was oh that's how religion is though because I was raised the same way that you're not supposed to talk about sex or you're

know till marriage and all that stuff because like going through puberty and stuff like that's literally a rush of hormones and you're being told that you are bad for that like and it's such a natural thing to be happening within the body not saying that they should be acting on sexual things but like how do you control those and like open up about those feelings and like that's just insane yeah so ed begins to exhibit signs of disordered sexuality at the age of 10 he had an organ watching his parents slaughtering a pig once he once while he was masturbating in the bathroom his mother saw him and an outburst of anger grabbed his genitals and immersed him in boiling water ed was not allowed to think about sex on the contrary he must remain a virgin for life like he

promised his parents first of all how do they know he had an orgasm watching this pig get slaughtered did he tell somebody about this maybe in court he opened up about his life story and like because you know he well i don't want to skip ahead but like later on in life he had to speak about these things you know so he had to confide in someone about that and maybe you know who knows but can you imagine like the the thought on a child's brain that that's what turns you on guess what i ordered the food to my house I'm going to die Oh my God

I shouldn't be in charge of anything dude We ordered food before this podcast started And we were going to eat And then we were going to start the podcast And then as she's sitting there She's like man our food is taking so long This has been like 30 minutes since

And she goes Oh my God I never ordered it Dude I'm like having the hardest day ever today My brain is like I left my brain somewhere order again maybe change the address once you're good to check out definitely going to do that I can't have to wait till he drops the order off

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Text fees may apply. He has orgasmed watching his parents slaughter a pig and then got caught masturbating. Yeah, and then she puts his fucking genitalia in boiling water. Like something was really wrong with her. I think maybe she might have gone through some sort of sexual abuse or something happened to her to where she's just passing this on to her children because, you know, don't get like that unless something happened to you yes you know absolutely so she's just traumatizing him back yeah you know because she didn't i think i think she's there's a little touch of the psychotics in that bloodline yeah for sure little little tinge little tinge during their

upbringing ed and henry were prohibited from spending any leisurely time away from the family family's rural farming property in plainsville which meant their only physical escape was attending school. However, Augusta would discipline our sons if they attempted to make any friends at school, which significantly impeded their social interactions, and Ed in particular became a victim of bullying. The brothers only had each other for friendship throughout their childhoods. Instead of spending their spare time playing with other kids, their age, they were confined to doing chores on the farm, and despite these restrictions, Ed continued to show unwavering love and admiration for his mother.

However, Henry was not so accepting. Henry was like, yeah, no, this ain't it. That's how I was. I grew up in a really strict household, and I was like, fuck this. I'm not fucking, this isn't right. So Ed has now developed, like, an obsession, you know. I wonder if she sexually abused him. I had to.

I mean, she's grabbing him by the general talia. Yeah. Like, that's weird. Yeah. You know, and I'm wondering how old he was, this happened you know like how old were you when your mass you're found masturbating because it said you know he's a little bit older yeah you're just grab you're just manhandling your children like that yeah like you don't i would feel weird grabbing a child's wiener whether it's my kid or not

you know that's weird yeah and putting it in boiling water that's evil yeah no so you're right he she could have been you know fucking around with him or something yeah that caused that sick up session. Yeah. And maybe Henry was just like, no, fuck you. You're not going to touch me in those places. Yeah. And yeah, so now going into teen adult life, you know, in 1940, their father has now died suffering a heart attack. So in order to gain some additional family income, they took odd jobs as handymen for local residents. Ed and his brother managed to build a reputation as hardworking and trustworthy members of the community, which led Ed securing himself a babysitting work.

He could be like that. He enjoyed it because he liked being around children more than he died. He did adults. It had been pointed out that his preference may have been due to a lack of social development early in life. So he, you know, he kind of had that, what was it, the Michael Jackson effect? Yeah. Something was stripped away from him as a child and he was doing anything he could.

could to hold on to that childhood or try to create a childhood yes that's so crazy that you know you have this guy watching your kids and you don't even realize how fucked up he is in his head could you imagine later on when like that yeah story came to light and you're like that dude used to babysit me yeah god that would be terrible the kids with him that's crazy yeah that's crazy um Henry rejected his mother's ideals and expressed his turn with how attached Ed was to their mother. Henry began to openly criticize their mother, which pissed off Ed. We don't want to piss off Ed. So in May of 1944, a fire broke out close to the family home, and both brothers went out to tackle it. The fire was extinguished,

but Ed claimed to have become separated from his brother during. He contacted the police and reported Henry's disappearance, but when the authorities arrived, Ed was suspiciously able to lead them directly to his brother's body. Although Henry had not been burnt by the fire and his head showed signs of bruising consistent with being struck, police ruled out murder and the cause of death was noted as asphyxiation. So what sounds to me like what happened was Ed was trying to kill his brother and the brother was fighting back.

Yes, exactly. But Ed's a fucking psychopath and won. I read somewhere that they believe that it was like. trauma from like a rock or a very hard solid object. Yeah. So either you beat the shit out of him uncontrollably. But why did the examiners and stuff not look into this subject a little bit further? This was like the day and age.

Right? 1940. So they probably didn't have any. So we're in like 1944 at this point. So they probably didn't have like DNA. They probably like, you know, they probably knew the family was already fucking weird. Yeah. They're probably like, they had to have, it's a small town.

I had to have like a reputation or something within the town. Yeah, absolutely. Of those two. But like, it was that considered one of the deaths that he killed them? I did that. It probably gave him his first taste of blood. So that's probably what triggered it. And he was like, oh, if I can get away with this, what else can I get away with?

True. And it gets weirder, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, yeah. This is just mild. Very tip of the iceberg. Yeah. One year after Henry's death, Augusta suffered. stroke and her health began to deteriorate she spent most of her time confined to a bed and acted

more erratical than ever ed served as her only carrier care but was also the sole victim of her vicious mood swings in a continued cycle of psychological and emotional abuse augusta would compare her son to his useless father but would then contrastedly contrasting But then, contrastingly, show a softer maternal side and allow Ed to sleep in her bed. That's weird. They were definitely doing something. She was touching them. Yeah, something's going on.

Yeah. Definitely snuggling or like, you know, something that's probably just crossing the line. Absolutely. Like, that's so weird and creepy and, like, borderline just, ew. Ed continued living with his mother until she's. died in 1945 following multiple strokes leaving him devastated gine had spent 39 years under his mother's roof and lived to serve her every need and suddenly she was gone leaving him on his own for the first time in his life he now lost his brother well he killed his brother it will within a year yeah so you have nobody

and like the dad passed away in the 1940 so this is honestly just a five year gap he lost his whole family that and he just doesn't know how to bond with anybody else so he doesn't have friends he has no one mm-hmm yeah so augusta had spent years embedding into her boys that feelings of sex and lust were absolutely immoral and to be avoided at all costs ed's only compassion until adulthood was from his mother so that's just to me this is where my impath sets in of like the Eileen Warnos is he really didn't know any different right and I understand that and it just like that's all he knew yeah was love from his mother so he had no um like social cues yeah and such which I feel like this plays a role later on in the story of just he didn't know

how to um control his emotions yeah either which I feel like is where the brother incident happened. I don't feel like he went out there with intentions of killing his brother, but I'm sure in a fit of rage, that incident then came to light. Yeah, for sure. You can read the next one. His mother's death was the tipping point. Gine would later say a force built up within me. In reference to losing his mother, he began visiting local cemeteries and digging up the bodies of deceased women with the intentions of creating a woman suit that he would then wear around. His aim was to physically recreate a version of his mother, later emitting to authorities that he wanted to become her and crawl into her skin. This was the leggings and torso found by

Schley. Schley? The leggings and torso found by Schley and his team, and Edging admitted to dancing in them in a cemetery on a full moon. It is, say a witch? Like, what's happening? Ed? It is getting weird now a warlock so he has now obsessed over the death of his mother that he wanted to become his mother yeah and i feel like the idea of saying that he like when he had openly admitted that he wanted to crawl into her skin is something she forced upon him to yeah like she couldn't bring him close enough to her that's fucking weird and he's still a virgin right now yes yeah yes yeah weird 18 months after his mother's death and intense loneliness, Gein's visits to his mother's grave developed into

nocturnal trips to Plainfield Cemetery and other nearby burial grounds with a pry bar. He dug up his mother and removed her head, which he took home to shrink, just as he had read about in his books. It was believed that the first woman Ed Gein took from a grave was his mother. Ed would carve out vaginas, anuses, and skins. breasts from the torso the rest he would cut up for meat except the face wait he would cut up for meat is he eating him that was never brought to light whether he ate them or not what's he cutting it up for meat though maybe he was eating them the rest he would cut up for meat except for the face ed painted his mother's vagina silver because hers was special they were definitely doing

something. Oh, he wanted to remember that vagina. Yeah, because hers was special. It was believed that he placed a bow on it as he hung it on his wall proudly to be displayed. He would peel off the face or save the entire head to keep him company and he would put lipstick on them. The way they would be dressed up for dinner, this way they would be dressed up for dinner. Ed would use the skin to upholster chairs, decorative masks, and even had full body suits to wear. Ed would read the obituaries in the local paper and get them late at night just after they were buried. Mm, fresh bodies.

That way the dirt was softer and easier. Dude. So this dude went from loving his mom to fucking digging up bodies because he's lonely. Yeah. It was also said that he would cuddle the bodies. Yeah. And he liked the fresher ones because they were still warm. Oh, do you think he would sleep with them?

they did like ask him a couple times if he had any um sexual anything with these bodies and he has always claims that he did not but i don't think that's true i wonder if his wiener's okay though because if his mom put it in boiling water maybe something was wrong with it i don't know shrivel nugget maybe he was like asexual i don't know any non-inality i don't know belly button i don't know um he also crafted he was an artsman guys yeah he also crafted body parts into household items, as well as pieces of clothing, such as a pair of gloves made from human flesh, a pair of lips attached to a window shade pool cord, and a belt made of nipples.

What does house smell like? Yeah. All these bodies. Like, how are you just living around that? That is crazy. I did tell Bunny about the belt of nipples, and she's like, I'm in. Yeah. Let's cover this.

That and when you told me about the pig, I was like, all right. right he's a real weirdo let's like a dive into yeah so yeah this has now developed into like an art form for him yeah essentially his whole entire and you know it's crazy is like it wasn't like a clean home that just had like a pair of lips hanging from the shades he was a hoarder so there was stacks of books everywhere he did love to read that was his escape um but there was just shit everywhere in this place so it took a second you know for people to realize when they went in there like holy shit this is what we're looking at these chairs that this guy is sitting in are made out of skin they would also go on to find a collection of female genitalia four chairs with woven cane seats replaced by tanned human skin tattooed skin lampshades and limbs and heads in boxes gine had made a tom-tom drum from a can covered top to bottom with stretched human skin and a skin purse with a handle he had cut an inverted skull in half to make a bowl

and made an armchair with human arm bones. I mean, you got to admit the dude's fucking creative. He's an artist. He's an artist. Artiste. It did say when you read the tanned skin, he tanned the skin. Oh.

So it wasn't that he was digging up people with tan skin. Yeah. He was actually like doing things to the skin afterwards. Leaving it outside. If I can get a little sun tan. What if he was laying? out with these bodies like just chilling putting them in bikinis and like i love that he dressed them up and put lipstick on them for his dinner parties that is so weird dude yeah yeah skulls were fastened to

the posts of edgine's bed and he had a human skin waist basket the officers also found a pair of leggings fashioned from the skin of the human legs and a vest made of a woman's torso and breasts so that's what he would wear around the house this is crazy as well as grave digging Gein also targeted the living and murdered Wait hold on As well as grave digging

Gein also targeted the living and murdered two women named Mary Hogan and Bernice Warden In 1954 A local tavern owner Mary was shot and killed by Gein And he loaded her body onto a sled And dragged it home

So this is where we fall into The serial killer The serial killer thing And that's where I, when I bring up the fact that I feel like he was just so socially awkward that he was put into incidences that he didn't know how to get himself out of. And that's where the rage came. So, like, he didn't know how to control himself or control his feelings and emotions and urges. But I'm wondering why he killed these ladies. Like, there's no reason.

Ed denied having sex with the bodies, he assumed, explaining that they smelled too bad. that's where you draw the line. He's like, he's like, I'll chop their meat up. I will use them as a chair. I will fucking wear their bodies, but I'm not sticking my dick in that. Gross. And I mean, dudes will fuck anything. So that's pretty shocking, Ed. He admitted killing Ms. Warden, who was shot in the head with a 22 caliber rifle and then

dragged outside to his car and transported back to the farmhouse. He confessed to the murder three years earlier of Plainfield innkeeper Mary Hogan, who had vanished in a mysterious circumstance. I mean, he's not giving a reason why he did what he did. Bernice Warden is the local, like, general store owner. Yeah. And he had made sexual advances towards her, and she denied him because she was married. Oh, gotcha.

And in a fit of rage is when he lashed out, grabbed a gun, and shot her. Wow. So he was trying to get his well. Willie wet. He was, yes. And like, and from my understanding, that's what happened at the tavern also. So both of the incidences of the woman, the women that he did admit murdering were in ways that he was trying to make sexual advances towards them.

They were not having it. One of them being married with like a whole ass family. And he didn't know how to take that denial. Yeah. In it. Good Lord. So in November, 1957, Gine, robbed Bernice at the nearby hardware store she owned and killed her.

Bernice's son, a police deputy grew suspicious of Gein and a search of his remote farmhouse was carried out. So when he had murdered her, he drug her body out to the car, put her in there, and he wanted it to make it seem like a robbery. Right. So he went back in and actually took the money. So technically he did rob the store. Right.

But that... I wonder if he did he really need the money or was he just doing it? I think he was literally just like, how can I get out of this? Right. And this is how I'm going to get out of it. You can read the next one. So while searching the property, investigators discovered horrific scenes. Organs were stored in the refrigerator.

A heart sat atop above the kitchen stove. And skulls had been made into soup and cereal bowls. Bernice's body was also found inside of a shed. She had been suspended upside down, decapitated, disemboweled like a hunted animal. He was trying to replicate the feeling he had, watching his parents slaughter that pick. So he would actually use these bowls from human skulls and eat his cereal soups and cooking utensils type things out of them.

That's crazy. Yeah. The thought alone is just so... So like he wouldn't fuck them, but let me eat out of them. Yeah. Yeah, I won't stick my dick in you, but I'm going to eat your brains. Pretty much. I'm going to eat your head out of your head.

Searching the house authorities found four noses, whole human bones and fragments nine masks of human skin bowls made from human skulls ten female heads with the tops sawed off human skin covering several chair seats Mary Hogan's head in a paper bag Bernice Warden's head in a burlap sack nine vulvas in a shoebox okay I got to just pause right here you just cut the vulvas off like not the whole pussy but you just cut the vulva like that is weird there had it been like that seems like his trophy yeah skulls on his bedposts organs in the refrigerator a pair of lips on a drawstring for a window shade a belt made from human female nipples and a lampshade made from the skin from a human face. I swear I just got when I was reading

this entire list, you know that song on the first day of Christmas. My true love gave to me four noses sneezing. You know, like I literally just fucking started singing that in my head like fucking there's so much shit that they found here. This is crazy. Like, ugh, if you're eating right now, I'm sorry. I'm glad we don't have our food here. It's a reason that happened. This is literally. But this, oh, like, I'm... Tongue tied. I'm a little tongue tied with this situation.

Because, again, I kind of like, I don't know, I have a little empathy. I have none. Because the guy was like literally... He's cut and vulva's off. I have none. I already have a disdain for men in general. So to know that he's just abusing women like this, I'm like, dude, fuck off. Crazy, bro.

But I don't know. I don't believe the idea that he didn't have sexual advantage. towards them I feel like there was definitely like you don't cut a pussy off and hang a pussy on the wall if there's not something yeah there sure yeah I wonder if someone ever did have sex with him later on in life like I wonder if he died a virgin or not I don't know I can't believe nobody asked him that I would have been the first person been like hey did you actually get some puss or was it living puss or only dead puss which one was it yeah yeah because he didn't know how to The fact that his mother had frequently instilled into him that women are instruments of the devil and vessels of skin likely played a significant part in his choice on victims and the demeaning way in which he treated their bodies.

So they feel like his rage and what he did was directly correlated to how his mother raised him. Yeah, I mean, you think? The shit's fucking, he's, he's fucking got a few screws loose. This dude's fucking weird, man. Yeah. I don't empathize with him at all. He gives me gross, gross feelings. Yeah, like, I don't know. I just, I feel like it's one of those situations that had he not been brought up that way, do you think he would ever done it? I mean, you know, he seems like a wild card. His brother was brought up the same way and was fucking fine. Yeah, you know, knew that shit was wrong. He had discernment. So I don't know. I think, you know, everybody chooses their own path, whether it be, you know, maybe he did. get like some genetic shit from his parents but you morally know what's right or wrong it's true so

that maybe that's where it falls into like the idea that he wasn't right in the head yeah for sure definitely something was going on special needsy we're going to move on to conviction and sentencing although gain was only charged with the murder of bernice he also confessed to the murder of mary during questioning it is believed he was also responsible for other deaths although this has never been proven. After his arrest, Gien was diagnosed with schizophrenia, which resulted in him pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. He was consequently deemed unfit for trial and sent to the Central State Hospital for the criminally insane. He was later transferred to Mendota State Hospital in Madison, Wisconsin. After a decade, Gine's doctors declared him sane enough for trial, and within a

week, he was found guilty of murder. However, as he was still considered legally insane, he remained in the hospital. While hospitalized, Gein proved himself to be a model patient and enjoyed reading, uh, enjoyed reading occupational therapy and the radio. Up until his death in 1984, he was not known to display violent tendencies or cause any trouble with other patients or staff. Ed passed away from lung cancer. What a model citizen. What, like, Like, so I guess in Silence of the Lambs, if you think about it, they portrayed him very calm and very like, but he was like, you know. Like him to wear people's skin. But he was a killer.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy to me because, again, once he got the help and I'm sure they medicated him within the mental hospital and such, once he was given the help that his brain and the chemically unbalanced part of him needed. Yeah. He was fine. I wonder if the schizophrenia caused him to disqualify. associate from reality so him not knowing what he or what was he really schizophrenic did they just

do that so that he would just not get put to death i don't know like who would have had his back in all this i mean there's there was so much evidence i feel like it was like no bro you insane because you don't do those things and not be that chemically unwell right he had to have been so far gone and the isolation of it all didn't make it any better so once he got that help that he needed and medicated maybe that side of him really was just the schizophrenia like someone literally in his head being like yo go do those things yeah his mother in his head saying yeah yeah possibly well i don't know about you guys but i feel fucking gross i'm hungry oh my god i the thought of eating food right now grosses me out dude i'm just sticking in a skull and just eating you're so gross well what do you guys

think about Ed Gein, do you guys sympathize with him or not? Because I don't. Mimi does. Do you guys think he's a serial killer? I do agree with you on that, but I do think there's something fucking... I think he's a psychopath for sure. Yeah, something's definitely wrong with him, but I don't think he should be considered a serial killer. No, not at all. I don't. I feel like someone who would be within like the serial killer vibe would be someone who... Jeffrey Dahmer. Yeah, sought out the death and the thrill of the kill. This guy was literally just mentally unwell. Jeffrey Dahmer

kind of seems like he might have idolized Gain a little bit. Maybe he, you know, knew about Gain or something. Maybe he was Gain reincarnated. Ooh. You never know. On that note, we're going to go eat. Love you guys.

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