Dumb Blonde - TBT - Jason Alexander: Britney and His New Bride

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

This week, Jason Alexander talks about it all. From meeting and marrying Britney to conspiracies around the conservatorship, that infamous wedding crashing, what he really thinks about Britney's family, and how he's now free from addiction. He opens up about the last time he and Britney talked, and then his beautiful wife Rebecca joins the show for her thoughts on everything, plus a round of Bunnie's Newlywed game.Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Bonnie who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast dumb blonde I was little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child. And here we are. What's up you sexy motherfuckers. Welcome to another episode of Dun Blonde. Today we have a man on a mission, Jason Alexander. What's, baby? How are you? Thank you for having me dude Thanks for coming. I'm like so excited to have you here. I know we've been trying for like a year a little bit Yeah, it just didn't work out but God's timing is always better, you know, and we think we could uh, we got it all figured out and we find out we don't

Dude, that's the fucking truth. I used to think I had it so figured out when I was younger and then I realized I don't know shit. The older I get them though, you know, that's what I mean. Getting older is a good thing about it. When you live long enough, I guess you don't go too far down the rabbit hole. Yeah. Oh man. Fucking speaking of rabbit holes, I feel like we have a lot to talk about

and a lot to cover, but like I told you before we started recording, um, I feel like we have a lot to talk about and a lot to cover but like I told you before we started recording I feel like any interview that I've listened to you be on like it's just mainly focused on Brittany Which of course ladies and gentlemen, we are gonna focus We're gonna talk about Brittany, but I will kind of want to like I want people to get to know you You know, like I want people to know like who you are where your mind frame is that you know Like just everything because I feel like nobody ever asks you how you're doing. Thank you. I appreciate that.

You know, I mean, I guess the only reason for me to ever be in the public eye was because of Brittany. Growing up, I was in the sport, so I got really good at football and got a college scholarship. So I started getting like a little attention in the media before me and Brittany were married in Vegas, just through that. But I always had dreams of being in NFL. So I was always thinking that, you know,

I would be in the public eye. I just never thought it would be through Mary and Brittany Spears, you know. But yeah, it's a- So did you guys grow up together? Like where did, are you from Louisiana also? Yeah, we're both from Kentwood. So it was a very small town. Back then there was like 2,000 people. It's maybe more like six now. But her whole family still lives there. You know, her mom, her dad.

What about your family though? My dad is still in Kentwood where I grew up. My mom lives probably an hour from there and it's towards Baton Rouge, the capital of Louisiana. So it's a little small. Are you still close with them? You know, it's close. We're, that's a good question. Aw, he's like, I wasn't expecting that one.

No, no I was, but you know, I love my family. So we just, it was like my family was, they divorced when I was young. So it was, I went through a lot of trauma as a kid, just going through that because- How old are you? I was 12 and my sister was like 10, I believe. So I had to choose who I wanted to live with.

And obviously I stayed with my dad because that's where, you know, I grew up and my mom moved and she didn't stay. So that and my dad, I guess, was a really outgoing person. And so I had a lot of freedom, you know, I was able to kind of, and I guess also growing up in that time, and it was like pre social media and stuff. So kids were still riding bikes and like. Are you an 80s baby?

I'm an 81, yes. I'm 80. Yeah, okay, yeah. So we're street light kids. Exactly. So we understand like the time before the internet like wave. But it was a great time. It was really cool, you know, growing up it was,

but there was always really blurry boundaries between the adults and the kids. Like the parties were always like in front of us. So I started drinking very young and kind of thinking that's the, like, I thought that was cool. Like, I want to be like all these adults and drinking actually, but then, you know, so I missed out on like a real family setting where, you know,

you know, I kind of envy people that have that. But at the same time, it did form me into who I am. So I appreciate that. But did you start drinking at a young age? I did. I started. I mean, we started playing around with drinking beer like 12 or 13, you know, because my close friends were my dad's friends, their kids were friends with me. We're all kind of close growing, Kentwood's small,

so it was like everywhere you went, you were friends. That's how I know Brittany is, is like, you know, all the parents. And then plus her mom had the preschool in Kentwood where we all started going to school. So it was like, that's where we all nested and started forming our relationships. But being from in that single parent life, you know,

with my dad, I kind of just, there wasn't a lot of restrictions, you know. And it kind of gave me a bad rap a little bit in like junior high and high school with my other friends. It's kind of a lot of judgment from the parents because they always felt like I was a problem child. And I was like always in my head going, if you only knew your kid, you know, right. Right. Like if your kid just hasn't gotten caught, you'd be like, dang, Jason,

you actually got morals. But, um, well you grew up in like the Bible, Bible belt. So judgment just runs rampant. Yeah. And you know, um, I did have an encounter with the Holy spirit at 12. I got saved on like a church, uh, a, a, a church in the middle of the world, and I was like, I'm not going to be able to get out of this. I'm going to be able to get out of this. belt so judgment just runs rampant. Yeah and you know I did have an encounter with the Holy Spirit at 12 I got saved on like a church I did like this mission

thing with the church and you know and it was kind of religious fear-based you know that made me get saved but I'm glad because that carried on and later on in high school I had another experience because after starting drinking so young I got involved in I was like a weekend warrior So like I was really good at football and obviously handsome, you know, so I had like You are a good-looking dude. I was actually very surprised when you walked in I feel like the media doesn't portray you as handsome His new wife is sitting here by the way, so don't you guys don't think I'm like hitting on him or anything

They'd be like, I know how bunny is Yeah, that's amazing story too, but yeah, we're gonna get into that You know and then I guess where I was going with that is that I didn't really get into smoking weed but like we started messing with shrooms and but like we started messing with shrooms and psychedelics and stuff really young. I guess because where I'm at in Louisiana, it's like where the 10 interstate runs into interstate 55 and it's kind of like a cross section of the country.

We got a lot of drug, like the party drugs. Right, yeah. Ecstasy back then, the tabs, they used to call them the double stacks or whatever. Like you used to, remember you know those are Extinct now back when drugs were fun. Yeah, they were like it was just and clean. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was just a whole nother era and So I started messing around with that and I had kind of a religious experience like I met Jesus one night in this trip That I took a bunch of ecstasy just came on so hard and it was like an outer body experience and so anyways it scared me and really

bad but it I was in the shower like a few days later and it was like something came over me it was just like an overwhelming like you got to go get baptized you got to get saved you got to you know it was just like something that came over me. And so I was like happy that I had that experience, just because it kind of brought me back into CHECK and I was kind of heading in a direction where it's probably-

Divine intervention. Exactly. And so, and you know, I mean, it didn't stop my drug use, obviously, but it did CHECK me and I put a lot of energy in the football and I started focusing on that. I ended up getting a scholarship. So I stayed on a pretty good path for many years.

But I always would party on the weekends. Right. I feel like that's par for the course for football players. Like that's how you guys are. Like you guys are good on, great on the field. And then when you're off the field, it's either womanizing. Play hard, play hard kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. Like you guys are good on great on the field. And then when you're off the field, it's womanizing. And yeah, exactly.

That's just our, you know, MO growing up and then from the South, it was like, everyone was doing it. Like everybody, right. I don't like, there was a few, you know, groups that, you know, were more just like the church goers and like really square, I guess, if you want to say that. Right. I say square all the time fucking square I even though I had those religious experience I was like I never let the fear stop me from enjoying my life

because I was like God if you're real I was this I want to do this this feels good I'm just having fun with these people and all this so I kind of I kind of didn't allow it even though the fear was always there like you're going to hell You know, and I was just like no, you're not I'm gonna have a God's bigger Kid growing up in the Bible Belt, I grew up with religious trauma group Southern Pentecostal. Yeah. Oh my god You even worse. Yeah, I had a baby She was Pentecostal and they don't have they in TV had a babysitter, she was Pentecostal and they had TV, they had radios and you know they didn't cut their hair. I always thought the TV thing was a little weird.

I wasn't allowed to listen to secular music. I couldn't watch certain things. It was crazy. You know I respect that more now though in my wisdom because it is a portal. The television is the brainwashing thing. It's just like, you know, and, you know, and once we talk about it, but getting married to Brittany, I think the biggest thing for me was, was it opened my eyes to a lot of the world and things that I didn't really pay attention to before that.

Absolutely, yeah. So, so, cause we don't have a TV in our house now, but it's just like, we don't, we choose not to watch TV. Yeah. No, I, it's, things have changed, you know, since we were kids back in our day, you know, like, it's like, it's just so different now. Everything is so, um, just there's underlying messages and everything that we watch. Just like the show, uh, idle right now on HBO, that's kind of like Britney supposedly connected to through whatever contracts. But and then there the Euphoria show. Yeah. Euphoria gives me anxiety. And I watch that show and I'm

like, like, I see the brainwashing in it, you know, and then when you really do your research, you learn how the CIA and how the money is invested in Hollywood for like, you know, all these different ideas to be pushed on the public. So I'm just very conscious about that now. And I wasn't before because mainly because I'm being thrown in the media and then seeing the lies and being like, that's not the truth. You know, it never made sense to me. To interject, you sitting here, you seem like such a normal human being in the media you see like i was almost kind of nervous to do the interview because i was like i don't know what

his mental head space is gonna be yeah like is he on drugs or is he schizophrenic not that there's anything wrong with that's that's the what to me that's what i'm talking about it's these little snippets that they put out and then someone that doesn't know you at all, that's all they got to go off of and that's that's brainwashing. You know, really that's MKO. Programming, you know, programming. And when you think about it, it's like television programming. I mean, they're telling you what it is right there. But no, you seem like just a normal dude. I'm normal, you know, I've always been just normal. Are you still using drugs? Are you still using drugs? I am not using drugs. OK, let's just clarify, because that was the number one question

people wanted me to ask you. OK. No, I'm not using drugs anymore. Thank you, Lord. I'm free from addiction. You know, I was headed down a bad path. I've always kind of I have shoulder surgery and football all the way up until I was 24, and I was like really one of those hard-hitting guys and so I took pain pills, you know for the pain and So I kind of got into that and then when fitting all came around

Someone was like dude. I was always buying some pain pills one time and they were like It's gonna be like $300 for 20 or something. I was like god if this is ridiculous, you know And they like dude, but I can get you the bidding offer. You can party all weekend on that. I was like, because I always snorted my pain pills, you know? Right. And so I was like, all right, I'll try. And when I did, I was like, whoa.

How long ago was this? That started like COVID, probably a little after COVID. This was very recent. Before that, I never did anything that hardcore, you know? But it was just the time period where COVID came. I had got laid off from my job. I was going through a separation with my ex and I was kicked out of the house

and kind of in a hotel room and trying to back and forth to the house, trying to figure out what I'm gonna do, figure it out. And it was just numbing the pain for me. It helped me get through the time. And it just, I just didn't realize how bad off I got. About a year of using it every day almost. And because of my work, I had the unemployment

and all the big checks coming in with the COVID and I didn't have to work. And it was like, they were giving me like, I don't know, they were paying like four times the unemployment, you know, it was getting like 900 in a week or something. It's crazy to sit at home and do nothing. So.

Yeah, idle hands are of the devil. Yeah, exactly. So, but you know, Brittany reached out and like, that actually kind of gave me hope a little bit, you know, because of the relationship I was coming out of to get clean. And then I just told God, you know, I was like, look, God, like, I don't I have a son and I don't I want to be a good father. And it wasn't easy.

It took a process, but through a lot of deliverance and healing and praying and surrounding myself with better people, better habits, you know, because I already kind of knew the formula for just a healthy lifestyle. Yeah. And if you and it's really just all about staying strict on that discipline, on your routine. Yeah. And that really the difference thing that I think that changed, though, is by giving it to God and like because I didn't do rehab or any of that kind of stuff. I just never really believed in it. Well, that's amazing that you were able to get off fentanyl and not even have to go to rehab

It was a short. Well, you know, it was a little process, you know, cuz I used kratom. It's like a Summits like I know it is like it helped a lot and then then you know I still like I still use that here and there but But, and you know, I smoke marijuana. I'm a huge advocate for marijuana. So when did you get sober fully off of fentanyl, just so everybody knows? It's been a year and a half. Good, good, I'm proud of you.

I don't have it right the date there. I was thinking about it today, I'm like it's well over a year, probably a year and a half going on too. So, and that was probably, when I got the DUI of anyone who Googles that, over a year, probably a year and a half going on too. And that was probably when I got the DUI of anyone who Googles that, that's what my DUI was from. I was like knotted out at the steering wheel basically.

Luckily I wasn't driving, because I felt really bad about the situation, because I'm like, man, I don't even remember. Could have killed somebody driving. So it was like, God works in that, in different ways. And so, and it gave me a compassion for people that are using that.

I never used the needle. I just, I was snorting and doping. I was scared of the needles. But I'll tell you a story. That's how I found out about Jelly Roll was, cause I had my Pandora rolling and I was like I'm spending a lot of time in my truck and driving to Antioch from Franklin.

And anyways, I had my Pandora playing, like maybe I was listening to Ryan Upchurch or somebody, but how they, how the, what's it, the algorithm of just play different artists. And so Jelly Roll started becoming one of my favorite people to listen to, cause he, you know, he raps about a lot of that. And he's, I'm sure he has experience with friends

and people that's been through similar situations. But, and then I think you had Adam Cohan on the show before. Adam Calhoun. Yes, Calhoun, yeah. He's really, I like, I've called him. We love Adam, Adam's our baby. We love Adam.

And so he was another guy. I was like, wow, wow, he's a guy. I like, I just, I felt it, you know? And so it got, it was like, now when I listen to some of those songs, it kind of takes me back and I don't really like to do it. Right. But the new stuff, you know, is cool. And that's how I found like Jelly Roll.

I love that you found him in one of your dark times. Maybe he's like a little, I always say he's a, an angel on earth, like literally. Yeah. He's such a good soul. I watched this documentary on Hulu or whatever the special he did. And like I heard, I've seen the people coming up to him and just like how his music Changed their life. I'm like, I'm sure for him that's that means a lot because You know, I see he loves it and he's really passionate about it I mean his music really does talk to you know, it's like and the fact that he went in the country and how the country music Community really?

It's been wild for us. Yeah. Oh, God, I can only imagine. Yeah. So I literally text Wynonna Judd. And that's not like not me name dropping. That's me. I can't believe that I'm at that point in our life,

to be friends with Wynonna Judd. That's just crazy to me. They've been the sweetest humans ever country music has. Well, I think Jelly Rose is probably a huge fan of Garth Brooks. He Rose is probably a huge fan of Garth Brooks. He's what? A huge fan of Garth Brooks. Oh yeah yeah absolutely. A friend of ours, we got married on her property in Goodlitzville and her property is right next to Garth Brooks property like her grandfather owned it so like growing up she still deals with Garth you know about the property line and different things.

But I thought that was funny and we got married on her property. Yeah, I love that. So let's take it back to high school. When did you and Brittany, did you and Brittany like hang out during all this? Or like, were you guys close as kids? We did, we did hang out.

We hung out a lot, you know, there was always periodic, cause we went to, after like out a lot. You know, it was always periodic, because we went to, after like, we left her mom's kindergarten, we went to two different elementary schools, and then she went to a different high school as me, but we played their football team. So, you know, that was kind of always fun

when we'd play against Park Lane, because I was like, I'm gonna show off in front of, you know, all these little pep girls tonight. Right. And her brother, Brian, was a good football player in high school, and he was a little older than me, and I kind of always looked up to him a little bit when we were younger.

Right. But- Not now. Not now, no, I actually think he's, I actually think he's, I I actually think he's uh, I Don't have bad words for anybody, but you know, I think I think Brian I think her whole family could can be more supportive and and you know I just don't agree with like the way they go about the control and they've all benefited their life and You know, so I just feel like there's yeah, we'll get into that because definitely want to talk about that but growing up so you guys you know

cross paths whenever you would play her high school and stuff like that you know she she and she dated other guys and we weren't we never really dated when we were younger we would hang out cuz my so her cousin and like good friends a couple of her good friends though that came to Vegas with us and they were in her wedding with Kay Fed were in my class. So even though she didn't, Brittany didn't go to school with me, her friends and family did. So that kept us kind of like weekends hanging out

and always kind of bumping into each other. But it wasn't, it wasn't been as much as you would've thought. Right. Because I had a whole life going on back then, and I had a pretty serious girlfriend. I started dating in ninth grade until my senior year, and that's who I was dating before I went to Vegas, which we just broke up a couple months before that,

before I went off to college and to play football. So, you know, but I will say when she started getting really famous, like around 16, like hit me baby one more time, you know, like there's always like, it was all, it was kind of funny for us because she was like a virgin, right? Right. In the media. You know, that was kind of the first time I she was like a virgin, right? Right.

In the media. That was kind of the first time I ever saw the media lie about it, but it was just like, we kind of laughed because we all knew that wasn't true. It was just interesting looking back. How they paint the picture of people. And how that's still accurate to the day, to this moment right now, you know, what they say is going on and what's actually going on. And how people really believe the narratives that they paint.

And that's all the, you know, that's all by design, I feel, you know, is to just keep people in the confusion and like, but I, uh, there's a lot of things I don't understand. Yeah. Because, uh, there's so many lies that, you know. Yeah, absolutely. You know. So how did you end up marrying Brittany? That was interesting also. This all sounds pretty fucking interesting. You know it was random because I obviously was in college at the time playing football. We were out for the Christmas holidays you know and I just randomly went to the gas station to get like, you know, some beer or something to go out that night.

And I had no clue I was going to bump into her at the gas station. But I just randomly bumped into her, her and her brother at the gas station. And funny enough, and Kentwood and Kentwood, because she was home for the Christmas holiday. She used to come home for the holidays a lot. And Kent was really small, you know, so it was just kind of random, but we would always end up somehow bumping into each other. Right. And so, yeah, she she bought her mom a brand new Mercedes and it was Christmas Eve, actually.

And she was driving it to kind of keep it away from the house. And her brother was her brother is a little older than me and my dad always hung out with younger the younger crew right and my neighbor was around Brian's age and they it was like this whole little party group of guys you know and Kentwood and Brian was actually going to my house to see my dad for whatever reason and Brittany was riding with him I was like wow I just left the house, but I'll go back. You know, I was gonna go out and do this or that. And so that's where we kind of started hanging out.

And there's a picture on the line where I'm in my living room. I'm all messed up and like doing like this or whatever. And that was in my living room back then. That night where we went back to the house and was hanging out. We just buy, it was a margarita. We just bought it at the gas station. And that's kind of where we went back to the house and was hanging out. We just buy, it was a margarita we just bought at the gas station.

And that's kind of where we hung out for like the next week before New Year's came along. And she invited me. She was like, so look, I got to do this Christmas thing. And then I really would like you to come to Vegas for New Year's. Not like, hell yeah. You know, and so I didn't think she was going to call me. She left and went on this Christmas trip with her family. And then sure enough, she called me like when she left and went on this Christmas trip with her family and then Sure. No, she called me like What she got she's I'm gonna be coming back tomorrow and you know

If you want to go still, you know be here at this time. I'm like, alright, so Boom, I'm not I'm on a private jet on my way and that was back then before her family was really controlling She had pretty much she could invite who she wanted around her It was normal. It should it should it was how it should actually be, you know. How was her father when she was younger? He was an alcoholic. But a functionable alcoholic. He worked and paid the bills. He owned a gym and he was always really into fitness and stuff. You know, he owned a gym and he was always really into fitness and stuff. Well, either though he was an alcoholic.

I guess when he was younger and he had a gym or whatever and he was always kind of like that mean guy though. Yeah, just a grumpy old man. Yeah, just a grumpy old man. And Miss Lynn was always a sweetheart to me. She just loved me to death back in those days, it seems like, but I don't know what changed. I guess I married her daughter in Vegas

and she didn't agree with it. But I never really crossed, I didn't really have a lot of experience with her dad growing up. Just because it's so small, you hear the gossip. She had some uncles, like Jamie's brother's name Wild Willie and he still works for her dad. I think one of the uncles is gone now, but they were always known for living under the river bridge and being like the hippies in tree houses. Literally, it wasn't a big deal then. It was like was like oh there's Austin and them and

you know jumping off the bridge swimming and just like living on there. Yeah that's hilarious. So take me on this journey of you guys getting married. You meet up with her, you where'd you meet up with her at? So she had two friends uh Courtney Brabham and another friend Jansen Fitzgerald um they were going also on the trip. So Courtney's mom were driving, drove us to the airport in New Orleans. Kent was like an hour drive. So I just met them. We drove to New Orleans to the private airstrip

and we met her there. And her mom got off and we said hi to her and then her cousin Laurelaine got off and we said hi to her and it was just like a quick exchange. And then we were back in the air. And it was me, her brother, she had this big bodyguard, I don't remember his name back then, it was either way, like him.

And so me and him kind of just sat in the back and hung out while the girls kind of did their thing on the trip, four hour flight, and I'm just drinking those little shots. I don't know how people drink in the air, dude. I would be lit. There's no way. I was. I was like, well, that was funny

because her brother was with me. And the funny thing is, is like, I just recently saw the CNN thing that they put out with K-Fed and her brother. And everyone was talking about Brittany being on meth. I don't know if you saw that story, but anyway, you know, I was like thinking to myself, I was like, I think everyone, Kevin, Brian, Kay, all these people,

they need to take a drug test. We need to see what these guys drug screen looks like. Because Brian was like, I was like, when we got to Vegas, I was like, dude, I need this, when we gonna get the dope? He was like, when we get to the hotel room, I was like, bro, when we got to Vegas, I was like, dude, I'm like, I need this. We're going to get, when are we going to get the dope? He's like, just, when we get to the hotel room, I got you. So, K-Fed gives me musty vibes.

Oh yeah. He's horrible. Like he took, he took, he took so much advantage over the situation. Yeah. We'll talk about him too when we get there. But just, you know, um, but even him, you know, they were feeding, you know, they're all taking drugs and like coke and ec, you know, that was feeding, you know, they're all taking drugs and like coke and ecstasy or whatever that was around.

And so that was kind of like, I was like, I'll just get drunk and when we get there, I already knew we were gonna get like some like good ecstasy or like coke or something. We were gonna party like, and I just remember our brother, you know, get, you know, anyway, it was just, we landed and it was at the Palm's casino.

So like this big green limousine picked us up and, uh, it's crazy because, uh, I've never said this before, but I used to date. Oh my God. Right. Yeah. Well, I grew up in Vegas, so I have to tell you after you tell me. Yeah. And he, but him and Brittany had like a weird relationship.

They did. Okay. I saw that up close and personal. So like after the first night we got it was just like that was an interesting thing because that's that's uh he was coming up to the room personally with uh I I didn't know for a fact but I'm pretty sure it was an escort. You know. Oh yeah.

So I got this vibe like when he came up this one time to visit us in the room, which was only once or twice it was just me and Brittany and you know, he came up and was like hanging out with us and so I Felt like they had already had something like cuz you know, she palms was kind of like her place to go and this is my first time She used to stay at his house all the time too. There you go. So you know, I didn't even know any of that, but it just felt like he was lingering around, like he was waiting for me to be okay with like an orgy or something. Right. Yeah. And I, when he realized that that's not how I roll, especially with, I always love Britney to

death and like, I'm not, I don't like to share my women like that. Especially with like that whole situation. Were you and Britney hooking up by them? Oh, yeah Okay, so the week at your house you guys the first time we'd ever First time we ever had sex was that that week before yeah, I went to Vegas What is sex with Brittany Spears like am I allowed to ask that? She seems like she would be kind of why am I allowed to ask that wifey? She's like she would be kind of, am I allowed to ask that wifey? Yeah, she could. I don't know. She's like, fuck.

She knows what sex is like. Yeah. You know, I mean, I guess it's different with everybody, right, but she's, you know, it was, the first time it was kind of raunchy, you know, it was in the shower and then like. She just seems very like a set very sexual. Yeah, it was she was a very aggressive She drug me back to the bathroom and like we got in the shower so it was kind of I was I was kind of already, you know living that life and

So I had some tricks to you know, but he's like it wasn't all her Vegas afterwards and got married to me so something was good yeah you guys probably just had super amazing you know that was interesting because after that we we was at her or the house where she grew up when that happened and everyone left even her brother and just left us at the house alone and we come out of the bathroom like we're in the living room or like having sex on the floor and we felt we fell asleep like passed out but naked yeah woke up her mom or dad her brother was awake Christmas morning at like seven o'clock like get up pretty wake up what is going on here i'm like putting my clothes on i'm freaking and her brother drove me home that day and i was just like, wow. And it was just- It was stopped in Vegas and got married.

Yeah, it was and then randomly. You're like a fairy tale princess. Yeah, yes. But speaking of who we were talking about, that was random because that's kind of what I feel like, the type of people that are still around her now. Right. That are kind of providing her with things

and then taking advantage of it when she's in a certain state of mind. And I saw that up close and personal, you know. I saw a lot more that I won't mention, but. It's Vegas and just Hollywood and the industry, I've grown up in it, is a different beast. It is not what people think it is It is literally a puppet show with people that are being controlled and money and it's really dirty

It makes you feel gross like when you really know everything that's going on behind the scenes You know, she was just there this past week and for 4th of July when that whole TMZ thing came out with the basketball player and we were we were talking about it because she still calls me. The last time I talked to Brittany was like two weeks ago. Yeah. And we were listening to a phone, I record all the phone call conversations

just because of everything. Like that was how I was able to get the felony stalking charges dropped. And I would have probably fought and beat the trespassing and everything, but after being in jail for 70 days I just took the little plea deal they gave me just to get out you know but Do you have one that we can hear a sample of on the podcast? Um Just so we can hear that it's her voice? I mean, I don't even need to prove it, but I do. I have spoken to her mom recently

and her mom's confirmed it to me. And then also just knowing the Brittany brand, if she wasn't calling me, I'd have been sued a long time ago. So when I went to the- Yeah, I've always questioned the free Britney rally in July. You know, I took that's when I came out and was telling everybody, look, I wouldn't be at this rally right now if Britney didn't call me and like

start talking to me again, because I'd put it behind me. Like the last time I talked to her was like 2010. And, you know, I recorded that conversation because this was like, it was just like a year into her calling me and the conservatorship was still like, I don't know, it was a few years old, but she was thinking it was going to be over then. And I was always like, that was always the excuse for us not to be able to see each other or hang out. It was like, you know, when this conservatorship is over, we could, you know, we could hang out. Do know do you do you feel like okay so you got let's we'll rewind it back real

quick so you guys ended up getting married in Vegas and then what happens 48 hours later so when we got back from the chapel no one knew about it like I guess all of Vegas said we knew I was there well they started finding out after like because we were at you know got married like 5 a. knew. I was there. Well, people started finding out after like, cause we were at, you know, got married at like 5 a.m. and then there was a few, there was a couple there getting married and some people took some pictures. So that is the media started talking about it and it got out pretty quick. But once we got back to the hotel room,

we started telling our friends and our people, Hey, look, we just got married. And that's when I realized like, I started getting really nervous and scared because everyone started acting, like, crazy about it, and they weren't happy. And it was just like, they called her mom, and her mom got me on the phone, and they were freaking out. And they were like, Jason, you don't understand what you did.

Like, everything you've ever done in your life is gonna come out. And I was just like, oh my God, what have I done? I didn't know I murdered you. You're like, I'm just a partying football player my God, what have I done? I didn't know I murdered you. You're like, I'm just a partying football player. Like what is happening? But you know, I'm 22 or something.

And like, I started getting a little overwhelmed and then they were, you know, started coercing me into this idea of like, look, would you sign in an omen? And like, if we let y'all date and, you know make sure this is what you really want. Cause they thought, you know, they thought this is what you really want because they thought you know They thought it was just like a flash a flash but but you know her mom knew that me and Brittany had you know feelings for

ever and since we were kids, we've always kind of crushed on each other, but It was real, you know my mom was ready feeling with everybody telling the her She had to get an anoint she actually wanted me to run away with her. She was like, fuck everybody. If they don't like it, you know, she's like, I'll get my jet and we'll go to Ibiza because that's where she wanted to go to take me on her honeymoon to the Ibiza Spain. I was like, fuck yeah. You know what?

I mean, I don't regret anything in life, but I, you know, like that was something I look at like and disappointed a little bit because I feel like I should have ran away with her, you know, cuz It was real you thought you were doing right by her I thought I was doing right so in the family had this Respect this like I had this respect for the family just got known him since I was so young and I had this respect for the family, just because I've known them since I was so young. And so, you know, there was that part of it too.

And then they promised me all this other stuff. And like, I didn't realize until I got sent home instantly. You know, it probably took eight hours for the lawyers to come in and for us to sign everything. But I do remember Brittany changed. Like she went from a certain way to like, once these lawyers got there, her mom wasn't there yet, but they took her into the other room.

And when they separated us, for like an hour, maybe 30 minutes, when she came back, and I said this in the interview years ago, I was like, they brainwashed her or something, but she was just like different. She knew what she had to do and she did it and it was this quiet and she just kept her head down I was like wow. She probably felt defeated and just and that's why I kind of feel a little you know looking back at it now like I'm like wow cuz you know

she was starting to feel the control coming in then right I feel like it's like you know I feel like that you know she was actually using me and that whole situation is a way to try to like leave yeah and I didn't really see it that way and didn't understand that then but now after everything you know I'm like man you know I wish but you know like God works and that's crazy, that you would even think that or say that because she's been trying to run away forever. Now it's what it seems like it a hundred percent. It's almost like Rapunzel in the castle and just nobody's letting her out.

Yeah. And now there's all these conspiracies that she's like either dead or like, is she dead? No, she's not. No. Have you seen her? Like, does she FaceTime you or is it just, you know, what that she's like either dead or like. Is she dead? No, she's not dead. No. 100% she's not dead. Have you seen her? Like does she FaceTime you or is it just her?

You know what, she hasn't FaceTimed me but. How does she get your number all the time? Well I kept the same number so I don't change it since she's had it the first time. But the first time she reached out to me in 2020 when we started talking again, she reached out to me in 2020 when we started talking again, she reached out to me through Facebook. So it was through her sister's friend messaged me.

I sent her my number and then my phone rang. And then, but her number's never been the same. Like I can't contact her. It's always a private call. And I did get a number like a few weeks ago and then they instantly changed it because it's interesting because after the conservatorship, like I have the conversations of me and her talking

for hours, you know, before like up until like, you know, the conservatorship was over with. And then I didn't we like, like a few months went by where we didn't talk because her and sounds got married and stuff. And so it started changing behind the scenes. And so there was periods where we didn't talk. But then once we, you know, like since the conservatorships ended, it's, the conversation has been completely different. Like it's not as genuine. And I felt like it's always been like, screamed like someone's standing there or something changed, you know?

And well, she's probably scared to death of who she can trust and who she can't trust, you know? And I think a lot of people have told her lies about me. And so she doesn't even know what to believe about me either and But there's a reason she keeps reaching out to you and there's a reason she keeps reaching out to me So obviously you feel must feel like a safe space for her Yeah, you know cuz I'm genuine, you know, like if you I mean I don't know if I'll let you listen to him Maybe down the road if you want, but like not on the podcast, but right We were listening to one conversation last night

and it was just like, I'm like, wow, she sounded like, what happened? Like the conservatorship was gonna be over 45 days from this conversation. She talks about a lot of stuff in it and she just sounded so good. And I'm like, you would have thought it would have went the direction of like,

oh wow, now she could be seen out in public and with doing normal stuff with her husband and like even maybe do a podcast or something together where, and it's just gotten worse. I don't think, uh, do you think her mental health is intact? Do you feel like she's drugged maybe? Or I do feel like she's being drugged. I don't know if she's complicit with it. Cause like her mom and dad were spiking her food.

That's terrible. You know like putting drugs in her bread bowl and stuff. But I'll tell you like something very interesting when I first went to California like, I'll tell you when I got really concerned when she posted nude on Instagram for the first time. And I was like, I was like, that did not make any sense to me. Like, you know, because there's better,

I just feel like Britney Spears could have really capitalized off of something like that. And then to just do it this trashy little way. Sorry, Brittany, but it was trashy. Little way on Instagram. And they put a little heart over her, and I was just like, it really pissed me off. It's almost like a picture she sent to somebody

that somebody else posted of her. That she didn't know about, like blackmail. Thank you. That's how I feel. And their conversation we were listening to last night, she's talking about her social media and about the people that were running it. Now she says she's just done with it.

She don't want them to do with it. So I feel like they're still propping it up and she does stays out of it for whatever reason. But I- Probably for mental health. I mean, her comments are crazy. I do feel like, I mean, you know what? But I pray, you know, I told her God's bigger than everything.

I don't like putting, you know, mental health's real, but you know, that's like putting things in a box when God could really like cure and heal all situations and not the religious God, but like just like our creator God, the one that works in the spirit and really like through faith and practice, you can tap into that stuff.

But I feel like she's tapping into like the the psychic side of the spectrum with all the people around her. And it's just I'll tell you what is concerning is that the last time she called me, she she told me she was suffering from a health issue. Like a pretty serious one. Which one can we say? It it was supposedly causing her to be bedridden. But that's obviously not the case

because we saw her in Vegas, right? Did she tell you what it was that's causing her to be bedridden? Should I say? I think you should. It's an autoimmune disorder. And uh- Well, with all the trauma she's been through, I wouldn't doubt that she doesn't, it's an autoimmune disorder. And well, with all the trauma she's been through, I wouldn't doubt that she doesn't have two

or three autoimmune disorders. Well, she took the vaccine also, and we talked about that and that's that I looked it up that a lot of the autoimmune disorders are caused in the blood is through like the vaccine that spike protein. That's kind of how it works in the blood. But a lot of people are seeing that happen now with now that everyone is took in the shot. There's times passing by, you know, these different elements pop up. But so you think this autoimmune disorder is caused by her getting the vaccine

or possibly with a lot of the other stuff like you're seeing? Trauma is what is the number one reason. And stress and just like, yeah, maybe just like unhealthy lifestyle choices. She doesn't eat good and she drinks fucking Red Bull like they're going out of style. That'll make anybody fucking sick, you know? Exactly, so. But the thing was, was I didn't,

I wasn't 100% sure if that's 100% accurate. But she did, you know, I prayed for her on the phone and she did cry before she got off the phone with me. Like she, I was like never heard her crying. She even off the phone with me. I was like, never heard her cry and she even told me she loved me and I was like, wow, that was intense. But then the next day, these pictures of her came out where she was on this yacht and supposedly in Mexico

and she's always surrounded by these dudes. And I'm just like, you know, when? You never see her with girls. That's not healthy for a female. I mean, where's her girlfriends at? It's like one, I'm just like, you know, that's not healthy for a female. I mean, where's her girlfriends at? You know, it's like one. And they're like, I mean, you know, they're like big dudes and their security's like,

they're sketch. They're all like, you know, sketch, you know, like. Well, they're all paid professionals that are, you know, paid people to be around her and just handle her. Well, they came to my trial in my preliminary hearing and testified that a complete, a completely false allegation, like they like completely fabricated a scenario that never happened. Like I was sitting there going, the guy would not even look at me.

And this is one of the black box security guards that was at the wedding. And he's sitting up there and he's just saying, yeah, you know, we've been monitoring his Instagram. Cause they were trying to make me out to be like the stalker and I was like, anyways, you know, we've been monitoring his Instagram and we've told him numbers, times not to come to the house. The day before I saw him, I was in my pickup truck.

I videoed it, he come off the hiking trail trail and I called him over the truck and told him hey look Not to come to the property Completely lie, right? Well, they have to make themselves look good, but I just it was it made a lot of things clear to me I was like wow, you know because I always felt the security was like there to Not to protect her but to protect the lie, whatever that is, you know, right? Whatever it is that they're hiding. Yeah, whatever they're hiding. And I just feel like it's so it's just a few people like, you know, I'll say it Kate Hudson, the

guy that's supposedly your friend and manager for the last 15 years, like he's very toxic. I feel like he's almost like the Sam Lufty part two, you know, and he's taking advantage of her and she, for some reason, trusts him. But in all these videos, even in the TMZ video from Vegas with the basketball player, he's all like hugging her and he's always just touching her in a weird way where I'm like, and Sam's right there,

and I'm just always like, this is not your wife. Why do you touch her? Why do you so always up on her in a weird way? And it's almost like we get more footage of you and her touching each other than her and Sam touching each other. And so, and then like I said, some of the things I saw in Vegas, this makes me think that they're part of continuing the mental

health in a bad way because if she had really good people around her she would be healing and and just having more of a healthy lifestyle would be involved with her kids more. Right. And there wouldn't be these opportunities for K-Fed and the family to say she's on meth or not on meth or whatever they're trying to say supposedly. She's already supposedly been offered to be put back in the conservatorship and she'll be allowed to see her kids. So I heard that's something that's already been like presented to her. It's like, so I feel like they're trying to almost blackmail her a little bit.

They've always used her kids to blackmail her. I feel like the media, negative media to try to coerce her into like something controlled scenario. So I don't know what's gonna happen, you know? I just know that the people around her are unhealthy for her. And there's only a couple. And then everything we see from her doesn't match, you know, what we'd like to see. Right. So let's rewind it back real quick. So you got sent home after you guys got married. And after that, when was the next time that you saw her or had communication with her?

Because you said that after she came out. I saw her in Heaven Federal Line in Kentwood at the Sonic for my good friend, Corey Butler. He passed away, drug overdose. He was like 20 something. Rest in peace, Corey. Yeah, Brittany and Corey were close, you know, but she was supposedly a virgin.

Right. And a couple, you know, so anyways, so like I felt like she should have been at Cory's funeral, but her mom was there, but she wasn't, but I was, you know, kind of with small sonics, like the only place to eat, and it's like everyone makes the I was, you know, kind of with small sonics, like the only place to eat. And it's like, everyone makes the sonic loop, you know, like drives around town.

And that's the thing to do. And they'll park. The kids out here do that. Yeah, and sit on the tail. It's the same thing they do out here. And so I pulled up next to her and I'm like, holy shit. There she is. So I got out and talked to her there then

and it was Kevin just sitting there like, you know, scared to death. He's a pussy. He's a pussy and I mean I was probably this size or bigger then I was playing football so like he was just like you know I made sure I went up to the window kind of flex on him. Flex on him a little bit you know but like that was the last time I saw her. Was he cordial and nice to you? He didn't say anything just kept looking straight. Wow. Yeah but then after that I moved to LA. When you saw her, what'd you say?

Like, hey. I was just like, hey, why don't you at Corey's funeral? And she was like, she said something, I don't know. It was very quick. Yeah. And I was like, all right, well, it was good seeing you. And it was just kind of really awkward. And I just got my car and rode out.

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You just gotta come with me. And I was like, sweet. And I think I had just made like a little money. I was working and then I got paid from my first interview ever that I ever did for Brittany thing. Cause for two years I wasn't really able to capitalize off of it

because of some of the contracts I signed. And then do you ever feel bad for capitalizing off of your relationship only because, um, because my life was so different afterwards and the way that they exiled me from the situation always felt like, you know, I should have been able to use that since it did change my life and it is part of my life. And like, when you say change your life, you mean like in a bad way? It just made I was just in the public eye. So, you know, ever since then, like I've been in the public eye, like I got married and

like the news, I don't even know how the news found out about it, you know, but they print it and so, so I just come to realize that that was gonna be something common, you know? And I was also thinking, why not go to Hollywood and see if there's any opportunities? And I felt, what's the word? I just felt like I was up, it was like me against Britney's brand, not Britney ever. But it was like, oh, you guys, XI wasn't good enough

or whatever, so I'm gonna go to Hollywood and just put myself in the middle of you guys ex-I wasn't good enough or whatever, so I'm gonna go to Hollywood and just put myself in the middle of you guys and just show you that I'm not going away. Can't just sweep me under the rug. Because they made me feel like I wasn't worthy. So I did that, I took the opportunity and it was awesome. So when I moved there, I moved into the Archstone,

this is the apartment complex in North Hollywood where Ashley Simpson and all these people lived, you know? And anyways, I found out seeing her dad there, her dad lived in the apartment complex. I'm like, how do I move to across the country and end up living in the same apartment complex? So I started seeing him and she lived not far away off of Mulholland Drive and so I actually pass her

all the time, you know, because Pop Ross used to park up there and it was really wild. And so it was just like random stuff like that. I went to her concert at the Staples Center and like saw her in person, like she didn't see me, but like, you know, so just like that's the kind of way I saw her, but it wasn't never for her. Her reaching out, right. And she kept in touch, you know throughout the years like she starts like so after

2004 we talked Probably for a few months and then that ended and then she started calling again like 2009 And so we talked for like a year and then that ended when she calls. What does she say? Back then it was really interesting because there was no social media still, like the Instagram and stuff. So it was just like, I was just like. We only had like Facebook and like MySpace. Yeah, Facebook and stuff like that.

So it was like, I didn't have a lot to go off of, but she would just tell me just random stories like, oh, this guy in my neighborhood trying to date me or something. I think she just wanted someone to talk to. She just wanted a friend. And so I just wasn't here, you know, but I've always had these feelings

and I guess I was kind of selfish about it too. Even, you know, even up to recently, because I always thought we would end up back together, you know, something like that. Does the party still love her and no disrespect to the new wife? I do still love her, but it's different now, you know? Yeah.

God's given me a beautiful wife. She resembles Brittany, actually. Yeah. I mean, it's not really, you know, I could say maybe physically, but completely different person, personality. And she's helped me. We were friends, you know, she's helped me a lot.

So she knows a lot of stories and everything. But, you know, when it changed, I'll tell you when it changed, when I got her, when I went to the wedding and it was like, you know, that's what you do. You crash the wedding. You're getting married to a guy. So, OK, let's let's let's let's, you know, zone in on this for a second, because he says it so nonchalantly. He's like, you know, you crash the wedding, but it's not just anybody's wedding.

It's Britney Spears wedding, you know. So were you guys talking right before Britney? We were. OK, so it was also it was because most years we've been talking for two years because most people think that you're just this ex boyfriend who came out of nowhere, who has no communication with her and decided to crash her wedding because of the media. But like she started calling in 2020, you

know, because I guess she just got released from this 5150 thing that she was in. It was April 2020, everyone, because I mean, it all lines up on the timeline. And it, she got out and I guess, you know, after 30, 90 days and whatever this thing was, she, she must've had some thoughts about me because she reached out to me I'm like it was very strange because it'd been ten years. I literally put it I was like I'm done with Brittany I was living my life. I had a son and was like, you know in another relationship and I just started like Working, you know doing what I do and so I wasn't even in the media at all, at all. Yeah, you had gone away for a while.

And so I was done with it. And when she started reaching out again, the Free Britney movement had kind of got big. And it was just all these different things happened really quick. I got this email to do a documentary thing. And then I ended up at the Free Britney rally and that kind of put me back in the media a little bit.

But we never stopped talking from that April all the way until two weeks ago. Like I said, there's been a few months. Did she help you when you were in your addiction or did she know anything about it? Absolutely. I mean, I think that's why she felt a lot. Like we were talking about it.

It was like probably why the people around her felt comfortable to let her talk to me because I was in such a low place. They didn't really feel threatened by me. And they felt like probably that's a way to keep her preoccupied. Yeah, exactly. And they never thought that I would go as far as coming to California and going to the house and like calling things out. Does she have to call you from burner phones? Or is it like, so like if she's being monitored so much like how does she even have? It's always a burner number it's always a burner number it's either an Android or an iPhone without an iCloud. Text are always green and it's just it's always it used

to be whatsapp and then you know then there's always these 805 numbers. They're just like, obviously she gave it to me a few weeks ago. I was texting her for a couple of days until I started texting her and she wasn't responding and I started kind of hitting her with some hard text and then she finally just. When you say hard text, what do you mean? Well, I was just like, so you told me you're you have this health issue, but I see you on a yacht in Mexico with all these guys and you look like you're dancing on the table and doing sound slapping.

You're just like, cool. I was like, so what's the truth? And she and then so I was just like. To ask her, so, you know, if you're really sick, you know, you have me worried. Yeah, like, how are you doing? How are you? She's like, well, what makes you think that's current? And I was like, OK, if you're really sick, you know, you had me worried. How are you doing? How are you? She's like, well, what makes you think that's current?

And I was like, okay, but then I'm like, the photos are current, you know, like the, you look it up, the photos were taken, you know, on the date they said they were taken. So then I started saying things like, well, you remember Vegas when so-and-so came up to our room and I walked in on certain things and like I said, I feel like that's happening with you right now.

And she texts back and was like, that's crazy or something. And I was like, a text of humor. When you say walked in on certain things, you feel like she's being like controlled or manipulated or? Sexually, like in an orgy. Did you walk in on her having an orgy? I did. In Vegas? Yeah.

Wow. So with, can we say it? So like I fell asleep, right? The story is just like, you know, sorry Brittany, but I fell asleep and woke up and she wasn't there. I was like, so, you know, she had two suites and we were in our suite and then there was the MTV real world suite.

Yeah, everybody. For the dancers and everyone for her toxic tour was staying and like, so I woke up and she's not here. I went up there and I walked in and it was like all the dance, like everyone that was in that suite, they were all just kind of doing their thing. And I'm like, you know, just was, you know, once, once I saw her, you know, I got, she came with me,

but it was just like. Who was she having an orgy with? Her dancers? Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah. And like, you know, I got she came with me, but it was just like she having an orgy with her dancers Yeah, oh wow. Yeah, and like, you know other people that I mean girls and guys Yeah, gay guys, you know That was what was odd to me is cuz it was like you're looking up with a gay guy So that's what made me say is that the same thing that's happening right now? Cuz she told me Kade's bisexual and so I'm like, oh is that what y'all are doing is taking drugs and doing orgies and stuff and then she changed her number on me and I was just like, well, that was random.

So I guess you don't have these health issues that you told me about. But it just, that's the kind of lies I'm talking about that don't make sense, you know? I don't know why she would say those things, but. And you haven't talked to her since then? No, I have missed calls from a private number, you know, and it's always usually her that calls me from a private number. I have no other, never phone never gets a private call from anybody else. But it's all you know, she's called twice since then and but I don't know, I'll probably get a call after this podcast. Hi Brittany, if you're watching we love you. Um, so let's circle back to the

wedding. You had been talking to her for two years prior to that, the morning of the wedding, you just wake up and you're like, I'm not going to let this fucking go down because first of all, where did Sam even come from? Yeah, exactly. So he's a, you know, he's a pop in the game, you know? So exactly. And how does he get in the circle when it's so tight? And so I saw you running around the house and I mean, you ran around the house. I went to her room. It was locked and she, but she was nowhere there.

Like unless she was in the room, the only time that made me think that maybe she was there was when I was actually tackled at the end of it. All I was laying on the ground, like they were giving me water because I was exhausted. It was hot that day. And everyone- Were you sober? Oh yeah, I was sober. Yeah, for sure. So everyone around, I was looking at they were all around

the top. I was like on the ground. How nice of them though to tackle you and give you water. Oh no, right now? No, no, no. I said how nice of them to tackle you and give you water. Oh no, that's what I thought. I was like the security guard. That was nice. I was like, can I get some water? And the security guard went and got it. And I'm like tied up like this. And they're like pouring it in my mouth.

And they all go, and they look at the window. And I'm like, as soon as I turned around, there was no one there. And I was like, was that Brittany? And no one said anything. But, you know, I think it was, I never saw her. I saw Sam and I saw Kate. What did Sam do when he saw you? Well, I was in the back of the cop car at that time and the windows were tending so I mean He only thinking he was back there, right? I watched them walk around his body language and just was like he's a bozo He's a straight bozo. She has a type. Yeah. I mean besides you Say anything I guess maybe you know, but What? Aquagea, you know, maybe a juke, you know, he either way like

We pray for Sam, you know, because he's probably in over his head, you know They're taking advantage of his ignorance and not to say that well They're saying that Sam's married to his sister who pretends to be a sister We've said that there's some, it looks kinda, I think sounds gay. And Brittany and I have talked about it. A lot of people think he's gay. Just people that know gay people. And I'm gonna tell you what, I know gay people

because every gay person in Hollywood tried to fuck me. Like I'm just like, they love me. No, that's how they are. They love alpha males. They love it. And I'm just like, they love what they can't have. But I was always really fun, so I wasn. They love it. And I'm just like, you know, they love it, they can't have. And I just, but I was always really fun, you know? So I wasn't insecure about it.

Did you ever give in to any temptation? No, but I was like, man, if I was gay, I would never have some of the financial issues that I've had. I was like, I would've been like sugar daddy. You could be gay for pay. Yeah, right. He's like that.

I couldn't do it, you know, but, you know, but it, you know, I got in, what really, what really financed my Hollywood life was like, I found medical marijuana. Like, I didn't know anything about it from Louisiana. When I moved there, my friends told me about the doctor and how the prescription worked and how all that worked. And then we ended up starting a delivery service, legal, me and my buddy, and we were like one of the first ones in LA.

And so I got into working with the dispensaries and then eventually growing it and then extracting it. So it was a whole underground world before it was legal in 2016. It really cash flowed my whole life basically. And so it allowed me to have a life in the expensive city of LA at the time, in Hollywood and go out to the clubs and be able to hang out

and be in that world. So the morning of the wedding. The morning of the wedding, my friend Rebecca, her now wife at the time, she's my friend. So you were involved during this time? Yeah. You guys had met. So let's circle back.

When did you and Rebecca meet? Rebecca, you want to come on the couch, baby? Come on in. This is Mrs. Jason Alexander. Yeah, so Rebecca and I were, what I was saying when the change happened was when I got arrested and went to jail and everything. Spiritually things changed because of my faith and stuff,

but at the time we were just friends. And so they were helping me through the process a lot. She's spoken to Brittany also many times. Was Brittany happy when you got married? Yeah she seemed to really like she seemed to be cool with it. How do you feel? Yeah we talked to her. Do you feel like she was happy that you guys got married or that you were in his life? Yeah I think so I think that it's been interesting because I talked to her last year and the conversation was more genuine. I met him and then we went to Huntington Beach where I have some friends.

You met him in when? What year? July 2020. Okay. And then we so we were in Huntington Beach with some of my friends and we were having these conversations with Brittany during that time and it was really normal for the situation. And then it changed after we tried to go see her and like we're texting and I instantly knew that's not Brittany texting and I could discern it

and I take the phone from him and I just Brittany texting. And I could discern it and I take the phone from him and I just start texting. I was provoking it out, whoever this was. And finally they go, oh, my ring's on her finger, bro. And I was like, this is ridiculous. So you think that was Sam? It was Sam or somebody around her trying to be funny. So do you guys When you guys talk to her you guys actually have phone conversations with her too

So that you know that it's her and it's not somebody just playing a joke on you Okay, one thousand percent. Cause you know how people are these days. No, I know and that's okay for them people because you can't you know like you said you're gonna have people that are going to just question everything, which, but, because for me, it was it was difficult for me because I even like in my head, you know, a lot of times it's like, what's really going on? Because that's why I started having only phone call conversations because the text got so weird, just bob just populated. It was just didn't add up and so and they saw the text would like go back and forth Where if you got too into like something that was serious or real information

That wasn't just talking about you know simple things it instantly be this like More intense text that was like, clearly somebody around her wants to make sure that this stays a contained situation. So it's like they allow her. They don't like logic, they don't like critical thinking. They don't like somebody that's gonna like point out the obvious and they just wanna keep her

in this state of like, you're Britney Spears, you're a pop star, you could take the back exit and just like, this is how you live when you're this type of person and just keep her in this weird dumbed down mindset when I talk to her. I have just normal conversations like, hey, so when's the last time have you talked to your sons? Why have you not talked to them?

What do you think about these different stories and allegations and just kind of keeping it normal? And they don't like that because it's like, obviously. It makes her think. Makes her think and she's, you know, she's less, I don't know, I'm not in the, I'm not a fly on the wall right now, so I can only imagine, I'm not a fly on the wall right now, so I can only imagine what's actually,

how it's all actually working on the inside. So you think that they actually allow her to speak to you guys? Yeah. And they're just monitoring it. I think they do it to track us as well, and just to make sure that we're... Well that was a big reason for us to do this podcast,

is because on my social media and hers, we're don't, we're not really like really private people. So we don't really post a lot of stuff and we haven't since we've been married and like it has been a lot of games. And like she said, and that's kind of why I feel like it's so important for me to talk and say, you know, my side of the story or just like put myself out there a little bit because for one for her safety if she is you know using these drugs it could possibly hurt her or she's having health issues or these people around her are taking advantage of her where because you know her dad got removed from the situation we all thought things were gonna be better you know and like do you think he's fully removed though? I don't know, but either way he's been like a fall guy,

you know, to kind of take all the rap. But she's still missing a lot of money. There's a lot of things that they're using these distractions to keep from focusing on like, hey, where's like $600 million, you know? Like, Britney has been in a conservatorship. She can't spend her money. Why is she only only like why is she gonna run out of money you know like what do you mean she's only worth 50 or 60 million dollars like that this doesn't

when you look at the you know finances and everything and I think it's corrupt there's this documentary I posted on my Instagram it's called Slave Princess and it really goes into the depth of the corruption. You know, not just with Britney, but Hollywood in general and a lot of people that get in these contracts and around these certain people. You know, it gets, it gets really deep. And so do you think she's involved in the Illuminati? Well, the Illuminati is for real. It's definitely a real thing, but it's not like it's not like so conspiratorial. You know, it's just like there is a banking system. There are, you know, trilateral.

I had the Rockefellers and all these families. So like in Hollywood was, you know, like Hollywood was is the holly tree, which is what witches wands are made of the wood from a holly tree, which is what witches' wands are made of, the wood from a holly tree. That's just like the story. And so Hollywood is this fabricated reality that actors and musicians are part of, and sometimes they know it, sometimes they don't.

And I don't think Britney actively is enrolled like Jay-Z is, or like some of these other people but You know, cuz when you start talking like that, oh you're conspiracy theorists and all this stuff But she's definitely being handled, you know in a certain level and I mean nobody can not can deny that can exactly so And and then and then the interesting thing is, is like with all the media, like I reached out to this Daphne lady who did the Daily Mail article and like,

they never mentioned me in this article. And it's just like, you know, for the one person she's been talking to and like actually went to the wedding, and it's just like, they really overlooked me for some reason. And like, they really want everyone to think that she is making bad choices

and they want to put all the blame on her and I just don't feel that's the case. I feel like she's a victim and that she needs to be have some compassion and she needs to have people around her they're loving and caring to help her. But the ones that are around her now are just child's play. You know for selfish personal gain and there's a lot of money moving around. I mean, I'm sure you and Jelly get a taste of it. Like, just like once you get to a certain level, like things, you know, people are making money.

We are nowhere near Brittany's level. People make, you know Brittany, but I know Brittany's. We are like poor people compared to Brittany. But like, for instance, just as simple as an assistant or like, or someone like a hair stylist, you know, people are making 80, 100 grand a year. That's on the low end. And then you have people like lawyers that are making a couple hundred million dollars a year off of it. It's just like, it just keeps going and going. Do you ever feel that you talking to the media jeopardizes her being able to get away?

You know, I don't, you know, because the way they have characterized me in the media and they've used the media as a weapon against me, I feel like it's my only way to kind of like combat that is by putting myself out there a little bit, because I haven't really put myself out there a whole lot intentionally, like besides the media just taking something and putting it out. a little bit. Because I haven't really put myself out there a whole lot intentionally, like besides the media just taking something and putting it out. Right, making you look crazy. You know, so this is like me just saying, you know, the truth and the story

from my perspective and like that way. And guys, I just want to I just want to interject really quick because my my my followers know how I am. I'm a huge energy person. So I just want you guys to know, I'm sitting across from him and his wife right now, and their energy is so good and just so sweet and relaxed and calm.

And it's not anything that you would ever read about. Yeah, not at all. Like, I mean, even his mannerisms when he's telling these stories, you can usually tell when somebody's lying. And it just seems like you're really just telling your truth. You got a very strong gift in discern. I do too.

And I, when I feel anxiety, I feel other people's same. So like, and if it's not other people's, the circumstance itself, the witchcraft involved in it, I feel that anxiety, but, um, that's just how you start to have a relationship with God. Like that's when you start understanding how he talks to you and how your emotions work. And like things that I thought were me when I was not as rich in my faith,

I'm learning now is me picking up on something else. So now I could discern differently and make better decisions and, you know, acclimate my life to that and like really grow as a person. And so that's where I'm at now. So thanks for recognizing that. Yeah, for sure. I got a question for you.

And this is just, I'm sure this is just gonna be inquiring minds, people are gonna wanna ask this. How does it make you feel, you know, that your husband is so set on helping Brittany? And like, you know, it's kind of like, it seems like you guys kind of share this passion though. So how does this whole situation make you feel as a wife, as a new wife?

You know, I like Brittany a lot and when we talked as friends, it was pretty normal. I knew she cared about him a lot and so that's important and there is that bond they have and that's also important so to me, like I'm not intimidated by it. But at the level of pain in the situation is so intense. Like.

situation is so intense like. But that's that's that's God's blessing. She looks like she's about to start crying right now. I know she picks up on, you know, you can just feel all the hurt from her. Yeah. And it hurts you. Yeah. And we've spoken to a lot of people that do trafficking, like such real trafficking situations. We went and watched the Sound of Freedom movie recently. That's more like child trafficking, but the level of trafficking that has happened

in the Brittany basically is just more professional. It's more elite and she is a victim, like I said. So I feel like it's important to talk about it. That's why, I've never, like my ex relationship, it caused a lot of problems because she was very, jealous. I guess, you know, it just wasn't easy. insecure.

And I never, I never was cheating on, I never had, it wasn't ever that disrespect for me. It was always like, just genuinely like, I have this history and it's never been closed and there's a reason for that and I feel like that's where kind of my position is to kind of be a mouthpiece a little bit about it to give some type of clarity and the fact that she was my friend before and then she understood it and then like once like I said once I went to jail and I was in jail that time for the trespassing,

the wedding, I had a revelation, you know? It was like, look, God spoke to me in my dream and said, she's gonna, she's, she's, she's, you have to move on. That's not an option for you. But I didn't know how or what. I just knew I was done chasing that idea that I'm gonna be with Brittany after all these phone conversations we had I

just realized that that was kind of making me crazy a little bit so you feel like you and Brittany have a twin flame journey you guys kind of chose that journey for this life do you believe in stuff like that hmm I believe they had a soul like I was like k it was like a holy soul tie in a good way that was always pulling them out of dark pits. And I think that that's part of what I honor and recognize. Yeah. I think that's so sweet of you because most women

would not be as mature about the situation. Yeah. That deserves. That's the spiritual maturity, emotional support. I never had that in my life, even for my mom. So it's new for me and like, it's making me a better person too, because I'm like a lot, I get angry,

like not in a really angry way, but it comes on, I come very righteous, you know? And so I feel like there is righteous anger and it's okay to get angry about some things and God gives you, you know, he wants you to stand up for yourself. So for her, she understands that and does it take it personal

and she talks me, we could talk through it and that makes it really, you know, refreshing for us and for me. But you know, it just, when we saw refreshing for us and for me. But, you know, it just went, when we saw each other after I got out of jail, we saw each other again and instantly I knew something was different. And yeah, it happened really quick. And, you know, we started, you know, getting intimate

and I never thought I would be married because of my trauma with my family getting divorced. And I was always scared of a skinny man. And I just thought it was kind of religious too. Like, I'm not getting married. It's kind of like, that's church stuff. If I'm loyal to you, I'm loyal to you. And I like this weird thing.

And so with her, she was really adamant about, like, if we're gonna be together, that's a spiritual tie. And it's something that you need, that I wanna, if we're gonna be together, you know, that's a spiritual tie. And it's something that you need that we, that I wanna do if we're gonna move forward. And I was like. Well she deserves that. I was like, I honored that, so.

I said, there's a lot of peace in marriage, like, you know, as teammates when you work together, and you're hand in hand, and you know, you have that extra bond, that's kinda like, whatever the fuck you're doing, whatever the fuck I'm doing, we're still together and nothing's gonna break that kind of thing.

I love that. When's your birthday? December. December what? 11th. You're a Sagittarius. When's your birthday? I'm a Libra, October 16th.

Oh yeah, that's me and Jay, fire and air. I'm Aquarius and he's Sag, he's a December 4th. So air fuels the fire. Yeah, I mean, the Zodiac, I'm Aquarius and he's sad, she's December 4th, so Air fuels the fire. Yep, I mean, the Zodiac, I'm not super into it, but it's always accurate for me, and explains me to a T.I. when I read on this. Go figure you marry another Sagittarius, by the way. And that was not, you know, that just.

Brittany's a Sagittarius, right? Yeah, exactly. I think her birthday's the second, because. Yeah, it is. I was talking to her makeup artist and kind of Helped set up this thing where and she ended up calling on her birthday Before we're married and It just it's never bothered me. So yeah, I think the biggest thing is that all the bullshit is

Gone and that people like Kade Hudson maxi Sam you know all the people behind the scenes that you know that like this is not a game and like there's no fear and You need to quit the shit, you know, I've talked to her I said God's gonna get you the fuck out of there like she's in a shithole like You get so emotional when you talk about it. I think that's so sweet because you're his wife and you're here crying over his ex-wife. That means a lot that that just shows

that you wanna help her. It's compassion that's not around her. Her mom should actually be fighting harder. Let's talk about her family. So, Lynn has been a complete letdown. Yeah. Jamie has been a Jamie Lynn has been a complete letdown like. All her friends like I went home recently okay and I reached out to her friends Jansen these these people that I went to school with and they're all just hands off they don't want to they don't want their name in the media. They don't want the attention or whatever side effect

that's gonna come from like speaking up. And they just, you know, they're really fearful. And her mom even said to us was like, yeah, Brittany just needs to be scared so bad where she'll, you know, make the right decision to get out or something. Her mom has said that? That's what she said.

What exactly did she say? She said this to you guys? Yeah, we saw her at the post office in November, and last November, and she was scared at first, and then she was like, okay, we're normal. And then just, she's like, I get that. I was scared too. I asked Hailey today, I was like, how are they?

Are they okay? And Hailey was like, they're amazing. I was like, okay, cool. I knew it was going to be like that, but that's how it always is because like when you don't know, all you see is what you see. And it definitely does throw a curve ball at people. So, but- When you saw her mom, what happened?

Yeah, she was just, she seemed just so fearful. I'm like, where's the fear coming from? Like I don't care if you got blackmailed five times like this and this you did this or that like just You know stop stop being afraid like that's some bullshit like and that's how this whole situation happened You know, right and so she said to you guys when you guys were at the post office that Britney needs to just kind of comply. Yeah, she was kind of timid and I started pressing for, you know, well have you talked to Sam? Like, she said she's talked to him only for like

15 minutes on the phone. I'm like, okay. And then like just questions like, when was the last time you saw her? Like something about she couldn't get into the rehab facility in 2019 So they've been blocking everybody from seeing her even her mom She just recently went to LA and had to go to Cade's house to try to set up a meeting with Brittany that

Lasted two and a half hours, you know, and then so Brittany talking bad about her mom on social media. Do you think that's her? I? Think that's maxi or kade or the people that are pushing the narrative for her media And I think she's done with that and pretty nice not She's for whatever reasons not saying anything, but she's there's nothing to do with the social media And if you had said that but I was just making sure I wanted to clarify for everybody at home that's listening. And Maxie, for people that don't know, is Sam's good friend who's, uh, uh, I don't know if he's transgender or whatever he is, but he is responsible for getting Sam the gig on the slumber party video and set that whole meeting up. So, party video and set that whole meeting up. So, do you think the wedding was real?

Cause there's so many conspiracies going around about her being photoshopped in or like a body double. There were definitely photoshopped and she admitted some of that in the conversation when we all three talked probably in April and we had a conversation. It was like, I could tell him like, well you guys are playing games so I'm gonna play games back.

And it's like, who's sitting there? Like, Cade is sitting there with you or like what's really going on? And you know, before all this happened she was more normal. So that's how I know her voice sounds more forced. She's definitely not as relaxed in our conversations now. And you just can't, you.

They get cut off and she just like, you know, the phone just goes dead in the middle of a conversation and then you don't hear from her for a month and then all of a sudden she'll call. And so. Do you think the wedding was real? I think it was, I think so. I don't know if she was actually there or not.

I don't know. But I think it's real for, not like she wanted to be, just like that was an option they gave her. Right. And they gave her this script and said, this is how it's gonna go. And she had some feelings for Sam maybe, or she was like, like oh he's cute,

yeah that could work and she goes with these ideas that they put at her and they say it's gonna be fun, it's gonna be great, it'll be a way to put you out, I don't know exactly how it works but I'm just assuming from experience and what I discern. So. This'll paint a picture in the media. It was probably a contract where it's like hey hey, it's going to last two years.

That's why you're hearing about they're having trouble now. Maybe now he's going to exit, you know, and then, you know, I don't know what the next plan is. Her dad, do you think her dad is. A good guy, or do you think he's not? Because I feel like the media portrays him as a monster now after the conservatorship and stuff like that. But do you feel like he's just really I feel like the media portrays him as a monster now after the conservatorship and stuff like that but do you feel like he's just really trying to protect her?

I use a dumb bow like the brains behind the operation is Lou Taylor and she's the one who coerced Jamie into the conservatorship and like she's the one that's really you know known in Hollywood for trying to do this to other people. She tried to have Lindsay Lohan put in the conservatorship. Lindsay had to move to Dubai to get away from everybody. Kanye, you know, I mean, Kanye is, you know, was talking about moving to another state or had to change residence so that they couldn't do that to him, you know, and that's definitely a strategy Hollywood uses. And Britney's probably like the MO for that now, you know? But I don't think he's that smart.

But if anything, I feel like he was controlling some of the, like, even though it was overkill, he was keeping her out of a lot of toxic situations, like the one I saw her in in Vegas. Right. You know? He was keeping her out of a lot of toxic situations like the one I saw her in in Vegas. They knew that stuff was going on, I promise you. That was just my quick little glimpse into the window. So just imagine if I were to see more.

That was just a weekend. Exactly, and so the dad is in mom both, you know And I think the mom's probably guilty of some things too. I know the brother's guilty of some things blackmailing He's the one getting his drugs and I like, you know, just like so they got on Jamie Lynn She's this she's just naive she's just you know, she's this she grew up really young and like Lou still manages her her whole life revolves about in the shadow of Brittany you could tell when she did that show on ABC she was really insecure and cried about it like so and that goes to show you that the mom and dad are horrible people because

They're not giving the the the kids the compassion and love that you're supposed to get. You know, and that. They're like showbiz parents. Yeah, exactly. And so. Kind of that fake religious stuff. Like when I talked to her, she's like, well, we just need to pray for her. And it's like, well, that's not gonna do like shit. Like, yeah, pray for her, but also like,

God's inside of you, so like go do something. I mean, I'm glad she did go try to see Brittany, but her friends are like hypocrites Like she has this one friend Jansen who just does nothing it's like what are you doing like speak out like and then her Laura Lynn her cousin and Courtney seems nice. They're all okay. They're nice. But what does that do? There's nice and then there's strong, powerful, let's get things going. And if more people were like that, this situation would not be a standstill.

Yeah, exactly. So in a perfect world, what would you guys hope to accomplish? Like the next time Brittany calls you, like what do you guys wanna do? Are you guys gonna keep playing the ring around the Rosie? Are you guys gonna actually like try to help pull the trigger on getting her out? And like, well if you do get her out, what's the plan then?

Well I think it's you know she she's been she grew up in this you know even in the Mickey Mouse Club you know so she's used to this people telling her what to do. And so she has free will at the end of the day. I just wanna give her the option if she does, you know, feel like she needs somebody or she wants to get out of it, that she has people that she can rely on, you know. So you feel like she does have free will? You don't feel like she's being controlled right now?

It's like part, she has to, I think she's just gotta get so fed up that she doesn't. The issue is the drugs. Like okay, maybe like drugs, but at the same time, you can't do drugs around certain people who are also just, you don't know their full motives. And just because you see them when they come to your house, doesn't mean that they're the same way away from you.

Like just because Paris and Cade like talk to you all nice when you're on the phone and like when you go out sometimes, like doesn't mean that they talk about you the same way away from you. That gossip. And there are political connections, there's so many connections and it's the money,

money motivated, I get it, we need money to live, but at that point, you know, it's just not, she's gotta come to that point where she doesn't take the drugs within. She's gotta stand up for herself, you know, like Tina Turner, right? Right. I mean, it came to the point where she's like,

I had enough, she took off running, and she said, fuck this shit. You know what I mean? And like Britney needs to say fuck. But I think that kind of happened when I was in jail and her car broke down on the interstate. I don't know if you remember that coming out. She was alone and the car broke down

and she got into someone's car. They didn't even realize who it was at first. And if you read the article, she didn't even call Sam. They called, who did they call? Just the police. The police. Somebody she was in the car with. And so, yeah, someone that she was in the car

called the police. Brittany didn't even call Sam. I don't know, I felt like that was her trying to escape or get away then cause it was like she was alone. It was after the wedding thing and all that happened. And to see the media play out in jail, like her lawyer, Rosengard went on TMZ

and he stood in front of the mature county police building and was like, we're gonna prosecute to the fullest. And I saw that from inside jail on TMZ. And I'm like, this is crazy. And then I go to court and I find out the district attorneys are filing the charges, not Rosengart. So it wasn't like that was a show pony. And then then I then I see Sam, then I see me on Good Morning America, where they talk about her ex-husband crashes the wedding and this and that.

And then the next day it's Sam in this like formal interview that never got asked about the situation. And it was just like his career and how being married to Brittany's helped his career. And I'm just like all these. And then I read my discovery packet and Kay is in there, you know Lying to the investigators that Brittany had said to her to him when I came there that she was concerned and scared Which when I asked Brittany about that recently after the first or second time I talked to her after you know I was released from jail She said I had nothing to do with that. So I was like, well, he said that. So this is, you know, he lied.

And one of her former makeup artists also said that she didn't have any legal say so with that. So with all that in mind, for her to get out, it would take her being desperate and not willing to go with the party anymore. And we also told her we we have someone who can get you out in 24 hours and they go they can go above the Ventura police who are connected to her husband. This whole thing with the Ventura police there you have Abbas Paymard you know and he supposedly there's Maddie Paymard who's Maddie Asgari and then

we're just supposed to like believe that these Kim Kardashian wannabes, which there's nothing wrong with Kim Kardashian and there's nothing wrong with wanting to look like her. Like she's beautiful, but at the same time the context is a little off with like paying her sister in laws. So Sam has relatives in the Ventura Police Department. Sheriff's Department, yeah. So we feel there's connections there and that they were exploited in the case with me trespassing and the way they held me and on these felony charges with high bail and just the way that whole process played out.

So, because I had also years before when her dad was involved still, like in 2010, I did the same thing. I went to her house, me and my cousin, and we snuck in the neighborhood, like the same type of private gated type community, got right up to the driveway and like three SUVs pull up the last one stops and they recognize we were out of you know place and like what

are y'all doing and I told him I'm going to my uncle Jamie's house up here and they're like radioed hey Jamie we got somebody and I was like Jason Alexander and Lynn and Jamie came out to the sidewalk and we talked and they were like you know yelling at me what are you doing here and they were just like don't you ever come here again I was like Brittany's been calling me and she like I want to see her and they were like you're not gonna see her you got to go we're gonna call the police next time and they had me escorted out and then no it was nothing ever happened I'm not in the media no one even knew right But then this time, you know, like it was handled

way differently. Well, you were live also, weren't you? I did go live. But I was scared. It was very, it was intimidating situation because of the, you know, me and her had spoke about our security, having, you know, being armed once before. She was already worried when we were talking about meeting months before that she was like it was always trying to find a time where either Sam wasn't there or if I came you know uninvited that she was worried their bodyguards might shoot me or something and it just was like what do you mean you can't tell

them guys like hey I know this guy like you know and you mean? You can't tell them guys like, hey, I know this guy. And in the lab, I don't know if it showed, but one of the security guard did pull his weapon out. He never actually pointed it at me, but he did pull it out, which was kind of surprising to me. And I just felt like that whole thing was really sketched like from the people that were there that day. I did see body cam footage later on from my attorney of Kade like screaming at everybody and just really

belittling the people that were there about how did how did this happen to the most like the biggest pop star in the world you know and he got he's just like freaking, just freaking out, you know, like this. And I'm like, whoa, this guy is unstable. And I even saw him before they had tackled me. And I was like, hey, Kate, I saw there's Kate. I mean, hey. And he looked at me and took off running. So, you know, it was just like no normal conversation happening. And it was just like Brittany had no say so. Right.

Well that seems to be the going consensus that really she just has no control. No control. You guys think that she's being, do you think that she's under the influence in the videos where she's twirling around and dancing nonstop? I think those are all like, I don't know if any of those are current videos, but the one in Vegas recently, the people that were witnesses of that said she was speaking in that British accent,

kinda like she was in 2009 and stuff. And she did her hair and shaved her head and all that. And so that's why I say, the people around her are not healthy. And they're just fluffing her up in whatever way just for their own personal fun. Patting their pockets. Yeah, whatever that looks like.

And I don't know if she realizes or if she even cares how her reputation looks because it seems like she just doesn't care but it's a concern because you should care that everyone thinks you're dead or on drugs and that's how they've controlled you in the past and got you in the conservatorship first of all. And I'm just concerned because it's gotten worse

since the post conservatorship's supposedly been over with. It hasn't gotten better. And like you would just expect, you got married, okay, if sound was genuine and this whole thing was genuine, it just would not look this way. Right. It's like a circus. Yeah, it's like a freak show almost.

What fruit are you, the fruits of your labor. It's just like, to's it's hard to watch. Yeah, it's concerning. It's brutal. But I don't point the blame at Brittany 100 percent, you know, because I do know that there is a lot of other, you know, things at play that influence it. But absolutely. Well, I think what you guys are doing is admirable

because it's pretty much you guys against the world. It feels that way. You have a lot of fans, though. You have a lot of people who really support you. I think what you guys are doing is admirable because it's pretty much you guys against the world You have a lot of fans though You have a lot of people who really support no hundred percent when they found out on tik-tok that you were coming on the podcast I mean there was just so many people like I've had so many people like when are you gonna do Bonnie's Park? Why I Mistakingly left a comment somewhere. I forget what it was, but they were like, Jason needs to come on the podcast. I was like, he is. And oh man, they went rampant.

That must have been, cause I started getting inboxes and they're like, when are you doing Bunny's podcast? A lot of people, like, she didn't speak about it, but she had a dream about Brittany before I even told her my connection to Brittany. When I first met her, she didn't even know who I was. I never told her. Like I knew her for like a year or two and she didn't even know who I was. I never told her. I knew her for like a year or two

and she didn't even know who I was. And she didn't even keep up with Brittany, but she had this, she told me later on that she had this dream and that's why they came to the gym that day and then like we met in the hot tub and then she prayed for me and a lot of stuff I was going through that separation. That's hot, praying in the hot tub.

I know. I like that. Yeah, I didn't even, I was like, I don't wanna go to the gym today, but I felt something like that I should that morning. I was like, okay, whatever. And then I'm just sitting out there and I see him and I just, I looked over and I thought,

that guy's like, you know, you don't see many men like that, like where I could look in his eyes until he was discerning and he wasn't like, you know, there could be hot guys but they're just like bad personalities. Yeah, but I could, he was different. I grew up in Vegas, trust me, there's a lot of hot kids with no souls. Yeah, you know, exactly.

You got a lot of- They don't have substance. Yeah, and I saw his tattoo and it was weird. Like I get dreams and and visions of things before they happen sometimes and I've never I hadn't had any in the entertainment industry and that night before I met him I did have one and it was about Brittany being trapped and I didn't even follow any of that I wasn't like a fan I liked her music and... If saving more and spending less

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Britney Spears and I never get things like that and we talked more about it and he never told me who he was he's like yeah let me not tell her the odds that I have a dream and I was never and I didn't even know she was married, you know, before like, he's 10 years older than me. So I just didn't follow that when it came out. When did you guys end up getting married? In March this year. Okay, so March of 2023.

Yeah. Will you guys play a newlywed game with me in a little bit? Yeah. I think it would be cute. Cute little ending to this podcast. What's married? Loosening it ending to this podcast. Yeah, what's Yeah What is married life like now? Like are you happy like you guys made this decision took the plunge like talk to me about that because first year our marriage was brutal for jelly and I

I don't know how we made it to seven God is good. Yeah, I think, like, together with putting that first and like submitting to that, like everything else kind of falls second. But for me, it's all new because like I said, I've never had someone that's so compassionate and spiritual and understanding as her. Soft.

Soft, and just can communicate really well. And so like that's super refreshing. And then communication is huge in relationships. People don't realize that, but it is exactly. And like I said, like I'm, I'm, I'm kind of like, I forget easy, you know, and I'm always like happy and stuff. So like in a lot of my older, like on my ex and stuff, we have these really like horrible fights and different things.

And I never really could understand things, but it was just, and I would forget and then it would be, and then like- Toxic cycle. Toxic cycles and just like, so a lot of times thinking it was me, you know, and when it probably wasn't half the time.

So. Well, it takes two to tango. It does. That's why I said half the time. But you know, like then with this and the way she's been with, you know, understanding my life with Brittany and the way my, you know, kind of been in the media

and like how it's affected me and my mental health a little bit, just with. Yeah, it's gotta be heavy. Social anxiety the media and like, how it's affected me and my mental health a little bit, just with social anxiety type stuff. And like, picking up on people judging me and that kinda like hurts sometimes, you know? So that's been good. And then, yeah, we both have a lot in common, you know? So like she's super artistic and she paints and she writes music

and like uh different sorry you're good um imagine that but uh is it a private number calling no no i was gonna say that would have answered it 100 would have answered that would have been brilliant yeah so i mean what do you love about him Rebecca he's he said nothing but wonderful things about you what do you let's give a rundown of him no I I'm like it's pretty neat how it happened like just says his friend I never would have thought about that just cuz I don't know I just never would have thought of that. It was strictly friendship like there was never a thought of intimacy in that kind of way so When he came on to me I was like oh shit like what are you doing?

And then he was like okay, and I'm like no no no You're like no no please don't no no no come here I love that well, let's play a newlywed game. I'm gonna ask you guys five questions. Mimi has a marker and some paper. What should we wager that you guys are gonna win if whoever wins? You guys need to think of something

that the other one has to do. It could be sexual, it could be whatever. I'm gonna run and go pee real quick so you guys think about that and we'll be right back once I... So we were just talking Because we just had a it's this has been a two-hour Podcast and I had to pee my eyes were floating but Jason was just filling me in on you're writing a book

Yeah, I've been writing a book like in the last six months. It's taking some time, but I'm calling it out of the rabbit hole It's kind of Alice in Wonderland based like themed or whatever so and you know we did the chapters kind of cool and she's doing all the artwork and helping me write it but it's basically encapsulating this conversation and more you know it's gonna go into more detail also is it gonna be reality or is it gonna. Is it going to be reality or is it going to be fiction? It's going to be reality because everything in it is true. And it's going to talk about me and fatherhood.

Because for me, being a dad was really a great experience. Because I was there for the whole process all the way up until a couple couple years ago. I never talk about kids unless people want to talk about them because I just feel like everything kids are off about. Well, it's because of the situation currently. I try to stay away from it. But either way, it was awesome.

And I was nervous. And what I say is it comes natural, especially if you are in it to win it and you want to be a dad. And it's like,, it comes natural, especially if you are in it to win it and you wanna be a dad. And it's like, it just comes natural, you know? And it's like, that process is really cool. So I really look forward to that again, you know, in the future.

Are you guys gonna have babies? Yeah, we're gonna have babies. Aw. I wanna have probably three and then adopt two. Yeah, that's her idea. But I was like, oh, I don't know if I wanna have, can we get a surrogate? Listen, I'm all for surrogates to have, can we get a surrogate?

I listen, I'm all for surrogates. Yeah, we talked about that too. It was like, well, then I'm going to have to implant the seed because I'm not doing the artificial. So when do you think this book will be coming out? You know, I'm not sure, but I know I was trying to kind of make it happen around the same time Britney's came out. Do you think it's really her writing this book? No, but it's still kind of... And another thing I didn't talk about was I read her mom's book and her sister's book a little bit, writing this book, and her mom mentioned me in her

book and I was really upset with what she said just like talking about how she would never like be okay with Brittany marrying me she said it would be a curse on any of our daughters if Jason married them but didn't her daughter get pregnant by like some weird creepy old dude I was thinking I was nice to you Lynn yeah it was the first time I'd ever heard it, cause the book's old, you know, it was written a decade ago or something, I think, or something like that.

Yeah, in like 2010. I never read it, but till recently, writing my book, and I was like, wow, that really hurts my feelings, you know, but she would say it. Cause she always loved me growing up. They said, no, hey. It sounds to me like they don't really have any loyalty.

They don't even have loyalty to each other. So why would they have loyalty to you? It's very shady and unfortunate. I guess that's what Catholics do. Yeah. Are her and her dad still married, Jamie? And whatever her name is. You know what? they've been split up

since Brittany was a kid, but they maintain this weird image that they were married, so no one really knows. I think now that the dad lives with the daughter, with Jamie Lynn. Yeah, so. Weird. Yeah, it's a complicated situation,

but he hasn't been doing well health-wise. He's a druggy too. Oh wow, I didn't know that. Alcohol is a drug, but I've heard rumors, recent rumors, within the last couple years that he's dabbling with some stuff. It's terrible. That's why I say everyone needs to be drug tested. What's this to your drug screen, Cade,

and I mean Sam and whoever, whoever's around, like even, even K-Fed, you're getting this 40,000 a month. And the kids getting any money, putting a trust or he's taking care of them instead of like talking about Brittany doing meth. Let's see you piss, you know, and I heard his wife's got a huge gambling problem And they're like 40 racks a month

What's crazy about that is when he released that footage trying to make Brittany look bad like that was Brittany being a mom You should hear I talked to Bailey shows character and it shows how of a douchebag Yes, yeah, I heard they're moving Hawaii to try to continue though. Yeah Yes. Yeah. I heard they're moving to Hawaii to try to continue the yeah Cuz I mean the child support for another like six years or something because it's 23 in Hawaii versus 18 Wow, so yeah, it's and there's some stipulations that go with that I heard I'm sure they had to have signed something assigned to something ironclad whenever they had those babies Yeah, exactly. Well, he's a dirtbag, so he made sure he got Brittany

as crazy as he could. He looks like a vacuum salesman. Yeah, did you ever see her, what was that, chaotic or whatever? Did you see the one where he was at McDonald's? Like, really? Like, why? Like, he was cute back in the day but now he didn't age well he let himself go and yeah all that child support he's

collecting he's like fuck it what do I got it who do I have to impress anymore I feel really bad for the kids you know yeah I didn't want to talk about her kids you know because it's just it's already such a touchy subject, but at the same time, it's like, those little boys don't know what's going on. They're being controlled too. Yeah, they're being used. Yeah, they're the ones that are being, you know,

hurt the most. Absolutely. And you can tell all Brittany's ever wanted was to be a mom to them. Yeah, it's sitting, and that, yeah, I think she should be talking to them and seeing them every, no one should be getting in the middle of that, I don't like that.

I don't care what a person's going through. Just like me, like I don't care what you think or what, it's like, I want and I'm willing to be a father, I should be able to see my son, but. Babies need their parents, mother and father. Whether you guys get along personally or not, those babies need to feel each up each parent's energy in order to grow up to be the best humans

that they can be. And I don't know why the court isn't involved more in that area trying to, you know, patch that up also, like, make stipulations where they, you know, everybody's getting paid off. Yeah, exactly. So that's, that's really cool. Let, everybody's getting paid off. Yeah, exactly. So that's the really. Well, let's play a newlywed game. Let's see how well you newlyweds know each other. I didn't pick that because, you know,

Haley told me that you guys were super spiritual. So I didn't pick raunchy questions. Oh, that's cool. I appreciate that. But we're not really like. I just want to be respectful. We're not condemning or judgmental or like you heard us talk. So it's like. No, I get it. I just, I want it to be respectful. We're not condemning or judgmental. You heard us talk, so it's like.

No, I get it. I just wanted to be respectful. My husband's calling. Should I FaceTime him? Yes. Let's see. You guys can say hi to him. I couldn't think of anything.

If he'll answer, he... What is that? Hi, baby. Hi, baby. Jelly. What up, y'all? What's up? Jelly! Jelly! What's up? Hey, my name is Jason too. Let's fucking go!

Let's smoke a joint, man! I wish I was there. I know. Hi baby. I'm finishing up the pod right now, so I'll call you whenever I get done. I was calling you before I walked into the chill, because I'm talking up the pod right now, so I'll call you whenever I get done Okay, I love you so much That's so awesome. Yeah, he always does stuff like wow. Yeah, he's he's amazing He does so much stuff that doesn't get media, you know, no, they don't want that's why when people come for him

I'm like, oh My husband's nice, but I'm not I'm always defending him. That's right when people come for him, I'm like, oh My husband's nice, but I'm not I'm always defending him. That's right. All right, let's see. Okay, so did you guys figure out what the prize is gonna be? Did we figure it out? I was trying to think of it cuz it's like he already makes me coffee every morning and cooks me breakfast Every morning and everything. Yeah Do you ladies hear this? He's not. My husband, honey, if you're listening to this,

which I doubt you are. I think my husband's cooked me breakfast never. Oh wait, no, maybe one time in seven years. That's amazing. All right, what do you want? What do you want? We'll come back to that. I just told her her back rubs for a week.

She wants a blow job, he wants blow jobs for a week. I'll just say it for him, okay? Let's make it more fun. Blow jobs for a week and then what do you want? We'll come back. I just told her her back rubs for a week. She wants a blow job. He wants blow jobs for a week. I'll just say it for him. Okay, let's make it more fun. Blow jobs for a week. And then what do you want? What would you want? Anything in the world? Not not breakfast, not coffee could be anything. Doesn't have to be monetary. We can go instead of three times a day. Let's go 14. Oh, there we go. All right, that sounds good. I mean, everybody's a fucking winner all around. That's right. Can I come? No, I'm just kidding. All right, let's see. So the rule is when you guys are gonna write

your own answers on the paper, so kind of turn them away so you guys can't see. Yeah, you guys can't see each other's answers. Yep, yep. You're gonna say the question. And then when you're done, put it upside down so you can't see it, and then we'll go to the next one and then we'll read them all together

and you guys will lift them at the same time. Sorry, I forgot to tell you guys the wrong. I just assumed everybody knows how to play fucking Nuly West. Yeah, that's, well, I don't know, but she always beats me at chess too. Chess, she got a smart chick over there. And now it's like a third grade chess champion. Look at you. I was like, so a third grade chess champion. Look at you

That's amazing a couple of times she always that's amazing. All right Who would you cast to play your spouse in a movie? I don't even know Just just it could be anybody. Oh Lord, I think I'll... All right, I'll just say this. Just cause it's funny. All right, and then turn it upside down. I might have spelled it wrong. No peeking. Wait, now I have to guess what he thought. So yeah ever all these questions are what you think each other would

Say I know I don't know You guys ready for the next one all right, what is your spouse's most irritating habit I love his gable. Oh my god. I just know. He's over there just grinning. That one was easy for me. I think I fucked his gable. You're okay.

We'll figure it out whenever we, whenever we'd, it's kind of confusing. I got confused for a second too. Who will your partner say led a more wild life before you got together? What is your spouse. You guys both ready? What is your favorite part of your spouse's body? Hmm. He said hmm. I gotta do it I guess. Typical guy. Tits and ass.

Bingo. That's hilarious you said that. Who is your spouse's celebrity crush? Alright, celebrity crush. Do I have one of those? What hers is? Would you rather have the lights on or the lights off? Oh.

You're answering for her though. Yeah. If I were to bring food into the bedroom for foreplay, what food would I bring? I said I wasn't going to do dirty questions. I found ones that weren't too explicit though. I can have it. though. What is your partner's bedroom fantasy? She's really thinking about these. Oh my god now I gotta go back and remember what questions I asked. Shitballs.

Fuck, I'm the worst game show host ever. I am the worst game show host ever. Okay, so we'll start with the ones you just did so that I can go back and find the other ones. Okay. All right, so Jason, what is Rebecca's bedroom fantasy what do you think it is I said all day sex what would it be Rebecca I should ask you first damn it yeah oh shit yeah I would say, yeah. Basically just taking over me.

Dominating. Being dominated? Yeah. Okay. So does that pass though for all day sex? Yeah. We got to answer first and then. Yeah. I fucked this up. Listen, you guys, I'm the worst fucking game host ever. All right. What's your fantasy, Jason? We'll give it to you since I fucked that up. What is your fantasy Jason? We'll give it we'll give it to you since I fucked that up. What is your fantasy? And then she's gonna pull her paper up and tell us

We like fan our fan our sex is fantasy every time so I Don't really have one I guess it would be like would be like, um, after like making a million dollar sex, I don't know. After, after, after, after, after,

after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after,

after, after, after, after, after,play, what would you, what would you want him to bring? What do you think he would say you would bring? Like ice cream or something? What'd you say? I said whipped cream and fruit.

Okay, so it's one in one right now. All right. And then what would you bring in as food? Jason? Um, that's what I would bring. What did you say? What I would do? You guys wrote down what each other would do. All right. It's still one and one. I love that you remember. Thank you for being the best game show host ever. Jason.

I put, I put on obviously. Well, what would you do, Rebecca? Would you put them on or off? On. Okay. Yay. Got that. Okay. So it's two and one. And then what would you do, Jason? On for sure. On. And what'd you say?

No lights off ever. On. Yay. All right. So that's, are you keeping say? Yeah, no lights off ever. On. Yay. Yeah, 100%. All right, so that's, are you keeping score? Okay, because I am lost. I am too. Oh, I mean this one was a celebrity crush, I think.

Okay, who is, who do you think is her celebrity crush? I just, I wrote me just because I... I did. You gotta let her answer. Okay, and then who do you think is his celebrity crush? Tell me before. Who's your celebrity crush? Jason before she answers us.

I really don't have one. My celebrity crush was Orlando Bloom. Was it? Sorry. They kind of look like Orlando. Yeah. They kind of look like. Yeah they kind of look alike. Yeah. So you don't have one? Is that your final answer? Yeah I don't have one. Okay. Britney. The obvious one. What do you think is his favorite body part on you? My boobies.

And what do you say, Jason? Tits and ass. Yay. So he got that one. You're so funny. I like that. That's sweet, though. I like that.

He put in eyes. He included eyes with tits and ass. That's very sweet. What do you think she thinks your favorite body part is? Or her favorite body part on you? Or whatever. You guys know what the fuck I'm saying? This is why I host podcasts, not games.

I think it's the wiener schnitzel. Obviously, right? I mean, she, my dick. What'd you put? Abs. My ass button dick. Oh, good. You guys both won that one. All right, do we know what the next one is?

I don't know what it is. I'm trying, I can't remember what it was. Best thing about being married? About the partner? About being with, best thing about being with each other maybe? Okay, we'll just run with it. I don't know, I wrote six though.

Okay. I did too! Alright, they both won that question. They both had the same answer. That's hilarious. Alright, what do you think this one is? This one's what is most important to your spouse. Okay, so let's start with you.

What do you think she's going to say is most important to you? Um. She's going to write it down right now. What do you think she's gonna say is most important to you? Um... Man, I'm gonna change my mind. She's gonna write it down right now. Well, I know what I wrote for her, but for me, what I think she's gonna write? Um, just, uh, like healthy lifestyle. Like being healthy, like fitness. I don't know. I don't know why I wrote. This is so weird. Keys? Keys! I don't know why I wrote this. This is so weird. Oh, is it?

I wrote keys. Keys. Cause it was like, wasn't it like, what's your most prized possession? Oh, okay. Most prized possession. And I was thinking our Jeep, like just the Jeep and just like. Oh wow. So keys.

That's funny. You guys all, you guys both won. How about that? I'll put her face. Oh, I love that. Why? That's so nice. That is sweet. All right. Well, since I fucked that that question up you guys both get that one sorry guys at home listen I am NOT a game show host all right next question. What do we think is the next question?

What is the word? What are your pet peeve out? What irritates you the most about your spouse? Okay, what it what about you Rebecca? Oh? when he does his thing like When he sucks his teeth? So what did you write Jason? I wrote, she asked a million questions. And then what did you write Rebecca? She's like let me guess, I don't know.

Wait, that's what I wrote with like the... Oh, the sucks your teeth. Yeah, exactly. So I wrote. She asked, my pet peeve about her. She asked me so many questions. Sometimes it bothers me, but. That's what I think.

That's a girl thing. Yeah, but it's. I think that all girls do that. Yeah, it's not, it's not bad though. I'm gonna kill you. And then can we guess what the last question was? Because I am the, I suck over here. Oh, who was, who would play the person? Okay, okay. And then can we guess what the last question was because I am the I suck over here

Who would play the person? Okay. Okay, who would play your spouse in a movie? Yeah, who do what do you think? He said who would play you Rebecca? I don't even know I Just wrote somebody funny. Because who's you're right? Jessica Alba. I was going to say that. Jessica Alba is hot. I was going to say. I was like, plus it's JT's wife, ain't it? Right.

No, that's just. No, that's Jessica Beale. Either way. I got to get it right. Who do you think she wrote would play you? I don't know. Brad Pitt? Yeah.

Is that what she said? Yeah. Oh, he got it. Yay. All right, you guys, that was the worst game of newlywood ever, because I don't know what I'm doing over here, but who won? It was fun.

You guys got a tie. So now you get to get blow jobs for a week, and she gets laid four times a day. Damn, girl. I mean, that's a winning, winning situation. We got to go. We got work to do. Got to get to work. I mean that's a it's a winning winning situation. We gotta go. We gotta work. Gotta get to work. I love that. You guys are so sweet. Thank you guys for coming on the podcast.

It was a blast. I really appreciate you guys. Do you guys want a shout out where people can find you? Is there anything you want to plug? Socials? All that jazz. I mean my Instagram is is just Jason Allen Alexander. He could find this easy but that's the best way to find me I guess yeah what about you Rebecca you want to plug anything no she's like nope everybody leave me alone right now it's just but when you guys have anything you want to plug you're more than welcome to come back on the podcast anytime I would love to have you guys yeah that's cool yeah thank you guys so much and thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dunblonde.

I will see you guys next week. Bye.