Dumb Blonde - TBT: Jeffree Star - The Internet OG

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

Throwback ThursdayY'all might not be ready for this one. The iconic Jeffree Star drops in this week to talk his truth on everything from the state of social media, how he built an iconic brand from nothing, what really happened to the beauty influencer community, and why he fled from LA to a yak ranch in Wyoming. He talks about what's next in his world domination, from embracing the new generation of TikTok to opening a store that sells makeup and meat.Jeffree Star: Website | TikTok | IGWatch Full Episodes & More:YouTubeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child. And here we are. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to talk. Another podcast. Today, I have the Enigma, the social media Enigma, the Queen of Queens. Hi.

Jeffrey Star, baby. Thank you for having me. Dude, this has been a long time coming. It really has. I'm so happy you're here. Thank you for having me. Who the fuck would have known that Montana would bring us together? I know.

So we're literally in Bozeman, Montana. We're backstage. In a locker room. We are in a locker room. The glory holes are behind me. And we are meeting for the first. time today. We've been talking all year. Yes. And life finally brought us together. So thank you for having me. And it's crazy because we did have a mutual friend who just

passed away, Daniel. And he fucking loved you so much. Dude, he told me. It's crazy that you met him and I like and hung out with him for so long and I never met you. So I never, I never got to meet Daniel. What? We were literally online friends for like 10 years. Oh my God. I thought you guys partied in Vegas back in the day as well. Nope, nope, nope. Just what we grew up around the same circle. He had the same friends I did. Like we never got to actually meet. But we literally talked all the time online. Like it was crazy. I just loved that I loved him, dude. He was just such a good soul. Yeah. So I just feel like this was like Daniel's doing possibly like pushing us together. That's beautiful. I have seen so many podcasts of you and I feel like. Did you notice how

I was like, you know what? It's time to talk. What what brought that on? Like I think during 2020 and like during the pandemic like I had such a crazy trajectory and then the pandemic and so much online drama like exploded yeah so I moved to Wyoming I went to therapy I really worked on myself I was like you know what I want to share that journey not just all the dramatic chaotic you know shit and just makeup stuff only I wanted to share how I healed I love that let people see like who I am now you know so I started doing podcast is amazing and thank you And a lot of males fixate on sex Every time I'm on their podcast.

We all know I'm never going to fully kiss and tell. I love that about you because I'm the same way. I was a hooker in Vegas. Period. So I'm never going to kiss and tell the celebrities that fucking... What do you get when you put two escorts together? Jeffrey and Bunny. So a lot of people don't know that I used to be the Queen of Craigslist in L.A.

Yes. I used to make so much money during the MySpace era. Oh, yeah, for sure. then so when you say queen of craigslist where you mean like putting like ads on there and stuff or like yeah to do yep and i and i recently found some old ads in my old account i love because i'm writing an autobiography finally that's brave because craigslist and backpage man you literally like oh i miss back page you were literally risking your life to be on those i did eros i was an eros girl okay so i literally would post my ads and then you know screen them and then sometimes i would work for the

services in Vegas and stuff like that but and networking we're in big city. So it's like people think like, they think we're like at the street corner with no teeth with our thumb out. There's levels to this shit. Levels. I try to explain that to people all the time and nobody gets it. And then you start networking and meeting people. So I'm this broke kid. I moved out at 17. It was like, fuck you to my mother. Let's rewind that really. Let's rewind it. Let's rewind it. Then we'll get to the head and the bottoming. So I want to rewind it back because you remind me so much of myself. We have been through a lot of shit. We mask. journey dirty jokes and humor and humor very dark humor and you know going through the stuff that

you've gone through i don't i'm pretty sure you know half of my following probably does know your story but i'm sure the other half doesn't and i think that that really is an epic part of your journey because it's showing overcoming yes so we're survivors yeah exactly yes for sure so growing up You grew up in Orange County, California. So I'm from Huntington Beach, 714. And it was really boring growing up. Like, it was just everyone was like surfing and skating. And I just never really felt like I fit in.

I was very punk rock. I was the first person to have, like, pink hair dye at my school. And I just tried to break all the barriers without really knowing it. I was just like, well, I'm going to be me and I'm going to be myself. And for some reason, I got over the part where you care what other people think. At an early age. At our early age, I think because my childhood was so chaotic. My parents were drunk my whole life.

And so people don't know this. Well, some people do, but I've never tried alcohol. And I think people sometimes have a hard time believing that. Because, you know, we always used to post pictures with stuff. Right. So there's photos with me with like, a whiskey bottle. I'm like, yeah, it's all for show. Sponsorship, too.

It's literally all for show. So, you know, people always dig things out of the ashes, but I've never tried alcohol. I never will. My dad died when I was five. So he drank himself to death. He killed himself. and he was just really miserable. Did he commit suicide or did he die from cirrhosis?

It's like a tricky line. Right. But suicide. Right. Yeah. So he was like on the brink and was like, okay, I'm finally done. So the last time I remember seeing him, his skin was yellow. His eyebrows were falling out.

He looked horrific and he grabbed me by the arm and I was five and a half. And he was like, please don't ever drink. Like it's ruined our family. And that was my last memory of my dad. That was his blessing to you. Yeah. It was wild. Yeah.

So my mom spiraled and obviously got worse. Right. So she would drink, recycle the beer cans to get more alcohol and just had a string of really annoying boyfriends. No one ever like abusive or crazy, but just always fighting. She never fell in love again. She was literally in love with my dad and it didn't work out because he couldn't stop drinking. That was what ruined the marriage.

What when you're five years old and your father passes away, how are you feeling? Like, do you remember any of it? I do. I remember my mom telling me like a week or two after I saw him. She took me to the same park and she goes, hey, like she tried to explain to me like my dad died. And she always likes to say this. I literally like blinked, immediately put all the trauma away and was like, okay, can we get some more ice cream? So you knew just growing up in chaos that it was better to just push it down instead of react.

Yes. Which was horrible for me later when all the like emotions and trauma. and demons were coming out. And I'm in high school. My whole body is the cutting board. Yeah. I'm like fully. And like a secret one, not like, I want attention.

Like, you know, it's. I feel like back in the day, mental health was not talked about. No one talked about it. Like how it is. Yeah. And cookie cutter Orange County, no one was talking about feelings. Right. It's like, get the fuck over it.

You know, everyone's, all the husbands are cheating on the wives. All the, you know, everyone's getting beat. All these crazy things are happening. And it's just swept under the rug. And it's like the row housewives of Orange County. Absolutely. No, it really is. The West Coast is a different beast.

People don't understand that unless you've grown up on the West Coast. It's completely different way of thinking and way of living as like, you know, fucking Montana or fucking Wyoming. So I didn't untrain this behavior until probably like six years ago. When you were cutting, was that your way of just kind of like relieving the pain? And did I, it was like, no? She didn't know for years. And then I slipped up and got comfortable and she saw it for the first time. Was it on your arm?

Is that why? It was everywhere, but I would wear, like, heavy clothes all the time. It would be 90 degrees, but I was gothic and my style. It was very punk rock, so no one ever questioned it. Yeah. You know, it would be, like, I had photography class, and I would go in the dark room and cut my legs and then come back out, and no one ever knew, like, crazy stuff like that.

You're just hurting so bad. Yeah, so I felt like it helped me feel a little bit because I felt so numb and, like, dead inside, but I never wanted to kill myself. Right. I never had thoughts. Well, because your dad passed away that way, so possibly that was like... So I never had the thoughts of like, I want to end my life, but I was doing it to just feel something. Right.

I understand that. And then it became like an addiction. Well, you get addicted to the pain because it's the only time that you actually... It was really fucked up is I was also addicted to the watching it heal. Wow. That's deep. Yeah. Hi, nice to meet you.

Don't start joking. No, yeah. It was really like, yeah, it was that serious. That's so much trauma to go through at such a young age. When did you start cutting? I would say like ninth grade. And then I stopped when I graduated high school. And I broke away.

But my mom did catch me. So we're in this little apartment. And she always made me do chores. Single mother, only child. And I'm a Scorpio. It's a lot there. I think you might have a lot of Capricorn. It's a lot.

Cap and Saj. I want to do your birth chart. Have you done your birth time? What is it? It's stunning. I'll show you later. He's like, I'm not showing anybody online. That's stunning.

So she caught me when I was doing the dishes. She always made me do chores and clean the bathroom and have manners and la, la, la, la. And I was a straight-a-student. She said, you can look however you want, do whatever you want, dye your hair, pink, red, black, do extensions. I shaved off my eyebrows in 10th grade. No one was doing that. At all. It was like poor and shock.

Right. And like a pioneer of sorts. It was crazy. And she caught me one day when I was doing the dishes. and I wasn't wearing long sleeves and she came home from work early and when you've been doing it for so long so she caught me on

and she saw the side of the arm I'll never forget it What did she say? I mean you know most parents don't fully know how to articulate it because they'd immediately go to he wants to die and it's like you know and she is a fucking train wreck so you are bitch you're fucking people trust me I get it yeah

so it was rough and we never gelled so I'm 17 and a half If I graduate high school early, I'm out. I'm going to L.A. And by then, I had been going to a lot of shows. I was 17 with the fake ID, going to the key club, the whiskey on sunset. I had a fake ID too.

I was at the Rio and pinkies and all the shit out and I would wear so much makeup. No one really knew how old I, like they couldn't tell if I was 16 or 30, you know. Let's dial it back real quick before you left home because didn't, wasn't one of your first sexual experiences at 12? Yeah. I mean, how do you even know to have sex at 10? Wow. Oh, my God. I don't know.

It just naturally happened. And I think boys are really curious, but men don't like to talk about this stuff. Right. So when you're in like ninth, this is eighth grade for me. Right. So let's dial it back to eighth grade. Right. Me and this guy Jeff and the football team and a foreign exchange student.

Not another Jeff. Yeah. So the first guy ever blew had the same name as me. Wow. Life. So you were already feeling that you were into boys. Yeah. So eighth grade was the first experience.

fifth grade was when I was like oh like okay girls are attractive but I'm more attracted to men gotcha and yes I've slept with both I love everyone but I prefer men yeah um but I love everyone I loved boys in makeup boy George was my first crush hate it love boy George but I am not attracted to men and makeup really don't like femininity wow I like a fucking man I love that so if someone looked like me it's the biggest turn off right well yeah I wouldn't want to fuck somebody who look like me either. You know what I mean? But like I'm not into glam boys.

I'm not into femininity. But I love a bad bitch. Like you're fucking hot. I love you. But I don't like a guy in makeup. Right. But you know what? My dad was a musician and he had long black hair and he played in the band.

And he had, you know, so I've always been attracted to the, the emo boys, you know, the crisp motion list. Yep. He was just in Wyoming. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I know. I can't. We're talking about that later.

We can't, but we'll have to bleak his name out. No eyeliner, like nice body tattoos, whatever. Like sports guys, right? Or no? Nowadays. But in the Warp Tour days, it was like country boys and like seeing boys. I love that. You know.

Yeah. Oh my gosh. So, give me flashbacks. Dial in bad. We're in eighth grade. It's a fifth grade. Fifth. Yeah.

Okay. Fifth grade, you already attracted to boys. And then eighth grade. And I already. looked different where in fifth grade was the first time I was called a gay lord and a faggot. Oh, yeah.

Really? Oh, absolutely. It was this era of 90s where like the guys wanted to be like gangster and wear baggy flannel and these huge Tommy Hill figure. All I dated was gangsters. And I was more like little button up Boy Scout like tight cut military haircut

because my grandparents raised me while my mom was getting sober. So she got sober when I was in high school finally. Oh, good. Thank God. And she's been sober since. Yay, mom. Congratulations to her, 23 years.

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And that hit me hard in a good way. But it's like everything I do like, oh, I bought some land. Now it's the biggest yak ranch in America. And I'm in seven restaurants. I can't just like let things be. Right. Well, you came from nothing. And I'm literally, I'm a money hoarder.

Literally, I have so much shit around. Like, it's crazy. Once you, when you come from nothing, you want everything. When we're never happy. We both turned dirt into diamonds. Literally. And you're never happy. Like, once you reach one goal, it's the next goal.

It's the next goal. It's the next goal. Yes. Okay, good. You understand. Yeah. No, totally. I have a lot of Capricorn in me, though, too.

So I'm like, I never give up. I'm literally just always going. So moving on after your first threesome, take me on that journey. You're 17. You are leaving. home you're going i literally got a u-hall my and i always had older friends of course i hate i hated immature little kids um so someone same i was the same way that's it so they rented me a u-hall we pulled up i said bye mom like i'm i'm out and i should just let you go yeah yeah i mean what was

she going to do right but it was good it was really good but i had to grow up quick right so especially on the streets of hollywood yes so my birthday is in november so then i turn schools over in June, July. So I'm doing like little freelance makeup jobs, barely making it by. And I'm sleeping on someone's couch. She works at Mac makeup. She's like, you're 18 now. Like, you need to work at Mac. Your makeup's so fierce. Like, hello. And she was way older than me. So she got me the inn. And obviously I sold myself my first job. So my first job ever was at Mac Cosmetics. And now I'm their competitor. Yeah, literally. You went in there, took all their tips and tricks. I'm a Mac alumni.

I have Ruby Woo lipstick tattooed on my arm. I'm a Mac alumni forever. And I still wear their powder. I love it. I could totally picture you being at Mac too. Yeah. High seller. I bet.

But then it already started. Everyone already, you know, the jealousy, the craziness. Then I learned the industry was really catty. It wasn't about the artistry. It was all very competitive. And L.A. was like very cutthroat. And back then there wasn't a million makeup artists like there is now. Right.

There was no technology, no phone. No one could even process that. We barely just started having phones, right? Right. So there's no- I had beepers and shit. Yeah, I had a little Nokia. When I look down, I'm looking at my list of notes that I have.

That's okay. And what were just saying? You were talking about Mac. Come on, hybrid and Indica. He's like squirrel. You were talking about Mac. Baby. And everybody's being a fucking hater.

We were freelancing. We were going to different locations. And I was always had the top sales. It was really fun. And as you meet people in the store as customers, you start networking. So from day one, my online journey. And by the way, I was already online at this point. Right.

I was already on these websites that people don't even know exist like hot or not.com. Dude, I loved hot or not. And live journal and all these things that people don't even know existed. No, that was already infiltrating. That was our childhood. Yes. Literally. So I would meet people.

Is anyone up.com? Is anyone up? Oh, Jesus. Oh, my God. Yes. And all of a sudden, I'm getting clients outside of the store. Right. And I'm doing makeup for music videos.

lo-fi zealous movies that no one's ever heard of and then I meet this girl and she I start I start working for hustler I start doing makeup for porn wow at 19 so I just started networking and just making as much money as I could but for the lifestyle I knew I was meant for it wasn't enough right so that's when someone introduced of course I did some girls makeup she was about to go turn a trick didn't know it and she's like oh baby the guys would love you I'll never forget her saying that line and I was like what do you mean and she's like this and this and I was like I can't like I didn't even fully understand a lot of men have fantasies la la la so I'm ignorant bitch she sold me out in a good way she turned you out yeah yeah she got her 10

we love that oh my god so I started the journey of hustling and doing sex work which I haven't only talked about much I think it's important but it is and I'm never ashamed ever I feel like people think that we should be a shame for what we had to do to survive. And I'm never going to fucking apologize. Even though I'm at this stage of my life, I sometimes still wish I could do it. It was so, listen, it was so, it was a different time where like if you wanted to wake up and make X amount of dollars, you could. That was it on what you have to do. That or even a sugar daddy. Have a sugar daddy who just fucking gave you. I had a few of them. I even had ones online that I never met. Yeah. So people were like, okay, you're on my space. How did you? People would send me high powered cameras. I didn't know.

that existed and I would teach myself everything so I was one of the first people to do a vlog wow me and Paris Hilton were the first ones to ever make money off of being a social media star absolutely I coined internet um an internet celebrity absolutely I remember the first time I saw you was my space it was you forbidden oh my god rest in peace I know how sad and tequila tequila tequila where the fuck is she and I'm the last one standing bitch and normal somewhat that's it Oh, my. You haven't lost your mind. Miss Tequila's crazy.

I know. Forbidden could never escape not being a star anymore. And God bless her addiction, alcohol. Yeah. That's literally like in Orange County's culture. I hate it. No, it's so sad because she was such a beautiful woman. But Tila, I don't know what the fuck happened.

I think she had an aneurysm and just never got right after that, right? Isn't it? I have no idea. They say it's the Illuminati, but I'm not sure. No, we're not claiming her. Yeah. No, no, no, no. We don't know who that is.

She wanted to be a part of the club. Right. No, thank you. Oh. I don't think she made enough money, right? No. Don't you have to have like a certain amount of money to get into the Illuminati? I'm not sure.

I plead the fifth. Everybody thinks my husband and I are in the Illuminati and I'm like, I'm glad you guys think we have that much money. Like, it's not what it is. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah. Life's very interesting. Yeah, definitely. So I moved to Wyoming and I escaped a lot of things.

Right. So let's dial back, though. Let's dial back. you had started doing sex work and how long did you do sex work for did you use that as like a means to an end while you were doing social media okay exactly okay and then like the warp tour days really took off and i started doing music yes i loved beauty killer so people forget thank you oh my god that i was obviously a working makeup artist yeah and then my space and social media really exploded for me yeah and i started to all of a sudden have like merchandise and i'm number one in hot topics so i stopped obviously doing makeup on others right People would hire me back in the day like, oh, well, you do my wedding or, like, come to my daughter's birthday party. Like, those days were very fun. Right. But then I started doing music.

Yeah. Yeah. And I did music as a joke. I wrapped on this Hollywood Undead song a very long time ago. We love Hollywood. My husband just did a feature with them. Oh, that's awesome. They're still around. Yeah.

And still kicking ass. That's it. Like, love them. And the first album, I was supposed to be on it. And then there was drama and they took me off. But the song was already online for free called Turn Off the Lights. Right. And it was massive.

I even re-recorded it, Interscope Records, and whoever at the time took me off. But the song was already massive online. Wow. And it was just very interesting. Isn't it crazy how record labels work? Like, they're just, they're shady as fuck. Not all, but most. Not all, but pretty much most of them are.

They're just so shady. I feel like Hollywood Undead always had some sort of drama going on. They were fighting each other. I know. It was awful. Sorry, guys. I don't mean to talk shit, but I'm just saying. No, it was just crazy.

Back in the day. Like they were beefing with each other. worked it out yeah for sure but let's talk about your music career i mean you had like nicky menage as a feature and like dude so cool a lot i work with a lot of really cool people yeah i did music i always say like as a joke but i actually really enjoyed it when i did the first rap verse i freestyled it and wrote it down in 10 minutes it was very very crass and i was like i wanted we just started freestyling right now before the camera started rolling i even put forbidden in my first verse the first yeah ever it was yeah it was so funny the little last line is i watched meet

forbids that pussy no that's so fucked but so good and she loved it by the way i bet but it's just like and it was it was crazy it was vicious and i was like i want to be like the obscene like white little kim right and that was my schick and i penned some wild that shit it was actually really good i loved what is the song um plastic slumber party plastic surgery slumber party love that was one of my favorite songs and that was very good and that was very good i love that was like lofi fun electro my space music like Depeche mode you had to be like techno yeah it was really cool yeah you had to have been there it's the best way to describe it and for some reason because of my space and i was already popular for being me and my character you know who my this character right

it just got big why don't you pursue music anymore though because you're so good at and it seems like it's a passion I've been asked this for every time I do an interview really and we have definitely been dabbling for fun. Dude, my husband will help you. It's really, I love it. But listen, I, I, you never know. There may be a little comeback. Yeah, do it.

Please. I think TikTok needs a Jeffrey Star Trek. It will go fucking I, I, I even have a new song in my phone. Can we get a little snippet? Later on the bus. Okay. So I have been doing it for fun. But you're so good at it.

Like, I think that's. something that you need to do and it's also a creative outlet for you it's really cool yeah and now that i'm living this Wyoming life and i'm older and my voice is less faggity i can say that number one faggot right my voice is deeper right and i really like my voice and someone came over the other day and we did be i'm not even kidding you're going to die beauty killer acoustic what no yeah oh yeah and they're like would you ever perform this before right now kid that grew up with us needs that dude you have no idea so when i open at my retail store we're jumping 30 years ahead yeah i just we're just all over my opening i had yellow wolf perform yeah we love you we broke the record of biggest

event ever in casper for downtown it beat even the eclipse from 2018 yay and we've never been on the moon but anyway um that's for that's for the next 10 minutes it was epic so i was like you know what everyone's you should you should go perform a song and i was like oh hell no but then actually kind of inspire me. Good. I'm proud of you. So you never know what could happen. You need to do that. Do stuff that makes your, sets your soul on fire. Yes. You know, I feel like you've done so much shit now for not just you, but for everybody else and to maybe prove points because from all the trauma that we have come from. Yes. We're always proving a point. We are. And I feel like, thank God she knows that. I feel like music for you is therapeutic. And I also feel like it's something that you enjoy.

It is. As much as like your yacks and shit. The makeup brand took off so big. Yeah. I was like, And I really became engrossed. Yeah. I went from living in a one bedroom apartment with $1,000 to like, I want to be a CEO of my own company and I had to literally teach myself everything. But I mean, you did it and look what happened. So you're in, let me, let me, so when we left off on your story. I just started music.

You had just started music. When you decided to stop music and then when did you start getting into makeup? Oh, that's a good question. Was that like coincided with each other? It was also, the music was literally like a 10 year. journey right and i was always independent until the end you were touring and everything right oh yeah you're hopping on the tour bus it was wild we had tour buses i was performing and there was no like real label behind me i had an independent deal through warner right which means i had no

support and like a distribution yeah it was literally a distribution deal that was it and it was sick and we had a you know we had a cute little number one dance album and la la la la but i never got the success that i wanted right i wanted to be like number and then there's other people in the industry coming up at the same time and they chose evil deals Kesha lady Gaga and they even stole from my charadeic oh baby and is I'm not blaming them I'm blaming their stylists and their team they would go out and they would steal Gaga for sure girl yeah like that's your that's your whole shit it was crazy back in the day yeah I would go and I and I saw their first show once and people weren't doing

ceases she's throwing up pink on the on the screen right before she goes on stage like your serial shot, right? Girl. The cover of Plastic Surge of Sumber Party, I'm puking pink. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You have your finger on.

I go to this woman's show. She's throwing up pink on the Jumbotron for her first big tour. And there's nothing you can do. Devastated crying. 15 years later, I'm reviewing her concealer. We're cool. Oh, I love that.

Lady Gaga, I love you. But it was her team. And later down the road, when I became signed to similar folks, they all had stories. And it was really dark. dark and it's none of it was her fault when you're that big you have such a team behind you and you're just going and no say so like literally yeah right we never know but a lot of them

chose horrible deals um you know people call it selling their soul i've always kept my soul yeah and i've been offered a lot i'm looking you in your eyes you seem to have a soul still here yeah ding ding ding it all cracks he turns into a reptilian right now they wanted me to go full reptile i didn't want to really yeah how do does that even work? How does somebody come to you and say, hey, I want you to be a reptilian? They see the potential that you can do to shift the culture. Right. And I chose to shift it myself. So people actually will come to you and say, hey, I want you to be a reptilian. What does that entail? It's more like, will you, it's basically like selling your soul. It's such a tricky, such a tricky thing to say.

Like Ursula and the little mermaid, like sign on the dotted line. And you have to give more than that. Really. Yeah. Like a firstborn. Or like your left nut or something. Listen, if you want that tour of us to not have the breaks go out tonight. No, I'm just kidding. No one can hear us. No one knows we're talking about this. No, we're good. It's a tricky slope because the industry is really dark.

Right. And there's a lot of people that will do. I feel like there's such a dark side and there's such also a light side. It just depends on which there is. But thankfully, because of social media and people having the guts, a lot of things are now infiltrated. Right. Wienstein, Jeffrey Epstein.

All these things are coming out. Right. And it's like, thank God. Yeah. So Hollywood is so scared. Yeah. Oh, I bet. There's no new artists.

They're all pushing. the stupid satanic demon shit it's also like fucking what's her name doja cat right now it's getting weird it's just getting boring it's getting uncomfortable to the point of right is what it is yeah it's just getting uncomfortable to the point of just like who are what are you trying to prove we get it you know like you're it's to make them feed into it like they really are i know it's it's it's so boring i listen to the new song for the first time on the plane right here and i'm just like this is it huh yeah you're like That's it. The second verse is kind of cute, but it's like, I just bought a limousine.

And I'm just like, my IQ is dropping right now. It's just, it's not great. She's losing her. First album. I even like paint the town ride. I think it's cute. It has a great beat. Obviously, these producers know what they're doing.

They create a beat that you're going to be hooked on and you can sing it in your head. It's all a game. Yeah, for sure. So I never played the game with these top producers. I never, I saw how dark the industry was. And it was like, could go here or this way. So I fired everyone. I said goodbye to Acon.

I said goodbye to Convict music. Which you were signed to Acon whenever you were doing your music. So my last few songs, it has the iconic clink convict. Do you know how cool that was? That very first time I got to put a track out with his fucking intro. It was like, I made it. It was insane. Prom night, the crazy single.

We're a little kids shooting up everyone at the end. Yep. Such a forward thinker. You really are, though. You have always been. No, for sure. For sure. You have always been ahead of your time.

Listen, baby Columbine had just happened. I'm like, we're going to tap into this. Because I also was getting death threats every day. It was different times. I would walk out the streets looking like this. Baggy, I was called the craziest names. Nowadays, people don't talk like that. It's all behind the keyboards.

That's all behind the keyboards. That's it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Fucking trolls and shit. But back in the day, it was just so different. 2014, you're already doing MySpace. 2014 is when I started the brand.

Right. So I was going to say your, MySpace was after music or? Before. before and during okay gotcha and then remember my space tanked finally started having it to run facebook's here instagrams here all these new things are happening the population's changing the last generation's now and you know just everything's evolving so it was a very hard time for me i let go of the music world right i knew i was never going to be number one single and and performing in front of $120,000 in my head, not knowing what was going to come later.

Right. And I gave it all up. And that was like the only moment where I almost felt like giving up. Not like full suicide, but it was like, it was like very hopeless. Right. And I was sitting in this apartment that I did the documentary on, right? Me and Shane Boston, we even went back to the old apartment. It was so fucked. Right. And it was just a moment of like, we're going this way or this way. So then I just started using the internet, which is free you don't need to go to college and i taught myself how to make a product how to build a brand and i just taught myself everything from the ground up and there was a makeup i mean i'm in la there's makeup loves everywhere people want to work with me but it's at a really weird stage so as

i quit i started i went back to the warp tour crowd right i started selling merchandise and doing meet and greets with no music anymore right here's a sick merch line come meet me because i was broke the tenacity though i was fucking broke most people don't have the tenacity that you do to do that to to go and teach themselves things and to just keep fucking hustling that's like something that you can't fucking teach people you should be proud of yourself thank you survivor mentality it was like go it was do or die yeah so i'm on warpedor 2013 testing out my first ever lick stick formulas in the heat it was awesome oh and i'm concocting my plan and thinking about what I'm going to do. And I'm like, okay, I want to put out three liquid

lipsticks. There's only like three brands on the market at the time. Kylie wasn't around then. Nope. Her lips were still normal. Yeah. And mine weren't. We had we got into plastic surgery at a young age because that's where that's how we grew up. That's how the West Coast is. Exactly. Yeah. So I'm on this tour bus. We're doing meet and greets every day in the hot sun. Everyone else, you know, they do their 30 minute set. Their little 10 minute meet and greet and they all go try to fucking get wasted. I'm under that hot tent seven hours working that motherfucker making making all the money. Yeah. Never partying. And once a seven hours over, then I go chill, redo my makeup, then we swallow. Right. Line them up. Line them up. Line them up, baby. But you know, it was just,

it was such a crazy time for me. So I felt very hopeless. But then I'm ready to start the brand and launch this shit. Right. I have no investor. Acon was going to own part of my brand. Shout out to Acon, amazing musician, right? Is he a good human too? He is, but he was going through so much turmoil in his life with his record label playing games and all these things. He could not be the best manager for me. So, okay, circling back, we, you're on Warped Tour, you're doing, you're working your ass off.

And you're staying sober this whole time. Yeah. Yeah. So you never had a problem with drugs or anything? No. Wow. So I didn't smoke. So here's a great.

I didn't try weed until I was 23. Okay. We're on tour and I'm with Daniel and the very first time was in Salt Lake City at this venue and their house, the venue owners, their house was above the venue. Weird. And it was very cool. Shout out to Jackie. I still remember her. And they had the volcano bag.

Oh my God. A gravity bong type thing? No, no, no, no. Like the volcano, like the one that blows. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not the bong, but like the bag. Okay, gotcha.

And it's like pure vapor. So it's very strong. For your first time? Yes. Extreme. And obviously people always ask like, why did you want to do it then? it was like in the moment I'm feeling that not that rock star life but like I had made it I'm on stage there's a few thousand people there every night it was very wild times right

and I'm with Daniel I felt very safe um and I was like you know what let me just try it for the first time like everyone else is smoking and they're acting normal I didn't I didn't like the wasted gross aggressive emotions all this I saw the array of people really happy really violent crying trauma coming out and I'm like fuck all this when you're sober around drunk people I just talked about this on a podcast yesterday. People don't get it. It's awful. I tell everybody I'm judging you because there's nothing attractive about a woman

spilling all over the place, a guy in your face just breathing on you. Like, I hate it. And people don't realize that until they're sober. Right. So it was a great times though. It was amazing. Right. So we're at this weird trajectory of like, how am I going to get this brand launched?

And then once the A-Card. The gravity bag, though. Yeah. Oh, the gravity bag. See, I'm already on the gravity bag today. So we try a weed for the first. first time. So I take a hit. I'll never forget this. And the bag is like big and you take a hit. And I'm like, I literally felt nothing. And a lot of people go, well, sometimes the

cannabinoids don't work on your first time. Yeah, whatever. Oh, fuck. So I didn't know the vapor takes like maybe five to 10 minutes to like kind of kick in. Hit you. Yeah. So Mr. Extreme over here, I take like five more hits. And I'm like, nothing's happening. This is so like, wow, I can't believe I took this long to try. and nothing's happening. It hit me like a train. Oh, no. In the best way.

Oh, good. No bad first trip. Good. I can't stop laughing. I'm already a silly bitch. Yeah, yeah. Me and Daniel are on. It's this cheetah print rug.

Oh. I'm laughing hysterically in my fucking underwear. The show's done. I'm all sweaty. You know what I mean? We're just up there chilling. Everyone's getting a drink. La la la.

I cannot stop laughing. The munchies hit. Oh. And we're like, okay, we know, we start saying goodbye. I'm high for hours. We get into the van to go to the hotel, the little La Quinta. We're in the van going to the hotel, and I feel like we're in a roller coaster and we're going 35 miles an hour. Yeah.

I'm laughing and we get to the hotel. I clean out the vending machine. Oh. I have no idea, but I'm so high. My brain blocks out. Oh, no. I wake up. There's chili, Frito bags, funions, snicker bars.

Like, I cleaned out. that bitch. And I had an eating fest with Daniel. We ordered pizza. I don't remember ordering. And I had the best sleep in my life. That's what I remember. What a fucking great memory of you too. It was beautiful. And I felt so safe with Daniel. So I love that. I start my journey of liking weed. And I didn't fully really get into it until I started my brand. And I felt comfortable. And now I, you know, I, I've said I've been high for 10 years, but marijuana has been a really big, I don't know. It's so hard to like claim something. is doing something right but it definitely has helped my creativity flourish right do you battle with

mental illness still or anything honestly no not really like we all cutting or anything like that anymore I was going to say maybe it like eases that yeah it does take away full anxiety I could I don't ever really feel anxious but I do smoke weed every day um where it's legal yeah and let's say my team's like yo okay I created a concept but you need to name these 35 eye shadows like now right Puff, it starts coming out. That's why music, oh my God. When I did that first album, I had never really smoked. Right.

Beauty Killer and all the EPs. But it was a way for you to channel your energy. Yes, exactly. Throw yourself into something that you really enjoy. Yeah. I love that. It's really cool. So let's talk about something else that you enjoy makeup.

Do you still enjoy makeup? I really do. Yeah. And skincare now too. Obsessed. Talk to me about it. Yeah. I've always loved skincare.

I used to tell people as young as 15 don't move your face right yeah which is always my thing that's why I'm frozen now as I get older I don't care I dissolved all my filler and I'm just kind of living a more free life but I'm still me I'm still Jeffrey fucking star do Botox or anything I have it in two years wow it looks amazing though I have to have it I can't when I start getting the wrinkles in the forehead I freak out I'm yeah I do have more wrinkles I'm not embracing them maybe they'll go away this this winter right though thank you but I'm just doing a little more Like my lips were too crazy, so I dissolved a lot. And, you know, when things start to migrate.

I looked like fucking Marge Simpson. So I had to, I had to tone it down from me. Like, below my nose was getting weird. No, your face is perfect. Thank you. You look beautiful. So I have to tone it down a notch for me. Yeah.

But we always do things for us, not for anybody else. But I always go extreme. Yeah. For sure. So you started the makeup brand in 2014. 2014. I launched three liquid lips on Black Friday. And you were looking for an investor.

Acon was going to invest, but he could. He was out. Next, let's hit it my best friend of 12 years, Kat Von D. She's down. She shows me a makeup lab and I start doing my formula. She literally gives me a sample with a name of the lab. I call it, do all the work. When she tried to destroy my career online, which flopped and backfired,

she said she did everything. It was the biggest insult I think I've ever felt my entire life. Because I did everything. Yeah, it's always hurtful when a friendship breaks up. It's like worse than a divorce. And publicly, for the very first time, because I had not really done online drama, then after that, as bigger as things got, oh, it was a bloodbath. I feel like people just come for you just to be.

Yes. They used to all the time just to get attention. But it was my first big taste of the internet flipping without knowing any facts. Oh, they don't care. And then days later, if I recall, they all flip back and realize it was all full shit. Yeah, they don't care. But it was so hurtful for someone to say, I created his brand. It was like, but it was believable.

That was the problem. And now knowing... Because she was a little bit bigger than you back then. Absolutely. Right. Because she had the L.A. Or whatever. And she liked having more money than me.

And she liked being the friend that had more. So when I surpassed her, she flipped on me. 12 year friendship. She's tattooed my whole body. 50 portraits. Would you guys ever be friends again? No. You just...

Because of you? Because of the way I was treated. I can never... Forgiving is fine when you get older. You can never go back to someone that stabbed you that. hard. Well, you could forgive but not forget. Yes. So it was one of the most painful things I've gone through. Do you think maybe she's grown a lot since being a wife and I'm just playing devil's advocate? Yeah, no, I honestly have no idea. Yeah. I'm one of those people that now that I've

really helped myself, I don't lurk. It's like the old days I would care what everyone's doing. It's so unhealthy. It is. It's very toxic. I need to stop doing that. I don't. So I don't read the news. I don't know what's happening anymore. I don't care who's fucking who. What's this? who did this who I just don't care it's so unhealthy you just get to a point of just yes but when you're in the same world yes you're told she has a kid now that's crazy yeah insane that shit that's fucking insane yeah and when you say also like I hate children and then you have one anyone's a lot that changes are mine obviously I've grown a lot it was wild to see someone become a parent right so hopefully it makes them nicer I feel like

children soften women too so you know you never know never never maybe you guys will cross path somewhere down the road and be able to but i'm ready to share because i have never really talked about it and i think that i never got to say my piece because no one wanted to hear what i had to say at the time i know i just hate that for you i feel like you're so misunderstood not now i feel like with ticot everybody's starting to get to see the real you or the grown you and i feel like everybody's loving it and embracing it her saying misunderstood was the only time today where i felt like a tinge of wanting to cry. Aw, I love you.

You want to hug? Let's hug. Later. Okay. Listen. But yeah, it's hard when you have success to say you feel any type of way because people equate money to you feeling fine. Yeah.

I never started the brand to make money. Right. It grew insane and then I so. You started a brand because you came from nothing and you had something to prove. Yes. You didn't want to be a piece of shit. That part. know whatever a people a derogatory name that people were calling you I totally understand I've

been a hooker my entire life now I'm a millionaire because I fucking worked my ass off and they can't understand yeah like they can't let go of that past but they want to you know they don't want to acknowledge what I've done with my clothes on you know so I totally understand when you're coming from let's talk about the brand though so you started it I started it 2014 so Kat was going to be the investor yes flips on me we all know that how that ended and isn't the funny she doesn't even have owner brand anymore it's gone yeah the irony in the last my brand turns nine years old this november crazy so grateful for the journey we so i then in the music industry i'm like okay i have no i have no investor i've already met the lab the three colors are done the

formula is better than the ones on the market they have no money so i'm sitting there in full hopelessness but i'm like i'm so hustler hello so i how many dicks do i got to suck that's it and and shockingly none to get the first loan. Yay, good for you. Am I great? So I start hitting up booking agents, people that are in the industry. Do you know anyone that would?

Connections that you've made by working hands off. I know everyone. I know all the booking agents from the little punk rock venues to House of Blues to the arenas. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to start networking. I start calling people this guy that owns Samarian Records had a meeting with me. And the co-owners of Samarian Records, Ash and Jeff Cohen invested in me and believed in the project and all I feel good it was insane

to finally in your vision clicked of like you you have the funds to make the dream of reality and all I needed was 100,000 so I put everything I had in and they gave me the last of what I needed on launch day I paid them back in five minutes wow it was it was it was beautiful because it was So, like, is anyone going to care? I'm like, I have to do a photo shoot. I do a photo shoot in a pink coffin. Yeah. My first brand shoot ever.

And my eyes are open. And I'm like, the liquid lipstick you've all been dying for coming soon. And that was this journey of my, even creating a website, letting people know. And then it was just like, you know, releasing colors. And then the first highlighter, then the first lip scrub. And now it's spiraled into this massive thing. And it's just so beautiful. And I'm so in love with makeup.

up and I've changed the entire industry. Literally. Everything I enter, even TikTok. I'm changing TikTok right now. I'm taking the credit from doing the live streams of the live crowd. Dude, we crack up seeing you on live all the time. I'm like, you never know what you're getting. I'm like Jeffrey is fucking hilarious.

No, you're hilarious. And then battling like the TikTok creators and the people that I didn't know existed and then becoming part of the family and then half of them fucking loving me. And you know half them fucking hate me. I don't think they hate you. I think they just hate to love you. Yeah. And they can't believe I joined their platform and I'm loving it.

Some people are shook at how much I love it. When I saw you on there, I was like, Jeffrey's on TikTok. I was like it's about fucking time. I know. So in the pandemic, when it was this whole dancing era, I hated it. I wouldn't do it either. I was like, you're not going to catch my fucking ass on there.

It was the first time where I was like, wow, I'm not progressing with the internet culture. But YouTube is still so big. So let's go to, I start the brand. I learn what a beauty influencer is. rolling my fucking eyes in the back of my skull right now. I think everybody's so catty in that industry and just... I start doing YouTube. I upload my first tutorial.

Now remember, I always forget to tell this to people. No one had seen me without makeup on before. So my big... Which I think you're gorgeous without makeup on. I love you without makeup on with makeup. And a lot of people do. Thank you for saying that. But I wasn't ready and I felt insecure about it.

Well, it was your mask. It was everything. Your entire life. Exactly. you hid behind that absolutely and now that my trauma was starting to heal i wasn't broke anymore i had tax evasion my bank account was frozen no one knew any of this and it was really really dark times i started irs is a real fucking gangster that's it they love me i bet they do they love me and it and it transformed my entire life so as i started to heal the big shock was i'm going to be

bare face on youtube yeah and i saw what the other girls were doing It's so boring. We all know I fuck it everything I enter. I love that you always want to do your own thing because I'm the same exact way. I don't want to follow everybody. That's it. So I enter YouTube.

I'm the first person I'm doing a tutorial. I'm lighting up the bowl. They change the rules. You can't do that anymore. 2015, 17, oh my God. And then 18, 19 was just obviously in fucking credible. And my channel went from 100,000 to 18 million people. And it was just like, how is this real?

From tutorials to showing everything about my, I call it my marriage, my five-year marriage, from every surgery to every mistake, is all on my channel. Yeah. And I quit last year. You shared your life with everybody. I did. I was so invested in you and Nate's relationship.

That is one thing. It was beautiful. It was gorgeous to watch. Thank you. Because I fell in love for the first time, not knowing it was going to be on camera, really. Right. And it was really cool. Yeah.

I finally felt loved for the first time by another man. That didn't want me to be a secret. And it really helped me heal. So being in love in that relationship really helped me heal. What happened with you guys, if you don't mind me asking? Can we talk about it? There's a lot of paperwork involved. Wow, really?

Yep. Wow. Yep. On his part? Both parts? Yeah. Yep. I just went and lurked his Instagram last night and he doesn't look like he's doing well.

Really? No. Oh, my God. That's so weird to hear it because I don't lurk anymore. Obviously, this was. I was like, where is he? Because I was writing my questions down. Oh, my God.

this November I'm four years single I mean no I've dated people that's not fair to say but in a deep real relationship yeah are you are do you think that maybe you're scared of what falling in love again oh that's a great question no I and I'll get back to that no I'm I'm open now I'm not afraid yeah I'm not afraid at all I know no I'm really not like I'm very open to it um haven't met the right person I've dated some people we've had a good time la la la but i haven't met anyone like i felt when i met him and our souls were like wow twin flames yeah had no idea so i have not felt that since our breakup can legally not be discussed gotcha i'm so sorry everyone that wants the tea i know i know i know i i it's not like i

even want to talk about it it's just it's a normal thing like you can legally talk about your breakups and whatever, I cannot, which is a different world we live in. Yeah, no. So we had a great time. Mm-hmm. Aw. So there's not one person that you have met, that has, like, just set your soul on fire. Not since.

Oh. Yeah. You're just. That's my vibrator. It's on the bus. It's my blood pressure cuff and my purse. When it goes off, people think it's a vibrator. It's the NDA vibrating in my backpack.

Literally. Oh, fuck. So moving on. Mm-hmm. So you lurked. That's so funny. Yeah. And what is your synapsis? So I went. Yeah, because I was writing on my interview last night and I was like, where the fuck is Nate?

Because that is the only part of your life that I was ever invested in. I have not been invested since. No offense. No, I love that. I don't get in the drama and I don't care. Like, I just love you as a human. I love that. Thank you. So you did a little lurking for me.

I did. So I went on Nate's profile and he looks and I, you know, this is just my observation. I'm not saying anything. I don't know anything. He looks like he might be under the influence of something, not positive, but he just doesn't look mentally okay, you know, so I don't know. I even said that to Haley earlier today. I was like, he didn't look good. Like, you can look at you and see that you're glowing and that you're trying to heal and, you know, be a better human.

And with him, it just kind of looks like he's lost probably. That's interesting. Yeah. Oh, my God. Do you ever miss him? No. Okay. Moving on.

I love all the times we had, though. And a lot of it, which is funny, is on camera. Right. We went to Bora Bora for the first time together. Like, those were so cool. And obviously, there were so many moments off camera of love and affection. And, you know, we had little pieces on YouTube. But it was a beautiful relationship.

It really was. And I had really fell in love with the first time. It served its purpose. Yeah. And it did. And it was so, it was really great for me. me because it really did like I said help me heal and I think it's hard for people if you haven't really fallen in love what that feels like because I thought it was made up and then it happened to

me he probably helped heal a bunch of childhood trauma wounds you know really did you know growing up in chaotic households like we grew up in we searched for that puzzle piece that can make us feel like the you know the little kid that we were before so cliche when I stopped looking is when it hit yeah but hello I've never dated a fucking a big guy before and I literally had sworn off all dudes and then here comes this fucking big squish and you never know right fucking just bounces into my life dude and I just love him literally cannot explain it at all like he is just seven years and I just couldn't imagine life without him so it's gonna happen for you again too because you're a beautiful humans and you deserve to be loved

I agree and I'm open to it yeah well you guys hear that and Jeffrey's looking well no Jeffrey's not looking he's open you never know yeah right now I'm back in my whole era I think Would it be a regular guy or would it have to be somebody who's on the same level as you? I would think trying to date you would be hard. It is. Yeah. But I'm also really busy. So it's hard to right now want to give a bigger piece of me right now.

Right. I'm obsessed of my ranch. I'm a real farmer. Yeah. Like I'm out there in Louis Vuitton covered in yak shit. I got over 350 yaks. I have four factory and camels. I know why you love yaks.

I've come to the conclusion because I was pulling up a picture of them the other day. The most diva of all cows. I was like, what the fuck is a yak? Did you come to that terminology? Tell me that's not the scene kid of the animal kingdom. That is a highland, Scottish cow. Okay. Well, I thought it was a yak.

But they look very similar. Okay. They do look similar. Gotcha. I was like, it's the hair. It's the emo hair. Like, he has to. Those are called so, though yaks that look like that are called super willies.

Okay. And there's different like hair on the yak, but they're all really beautiful. They're like, I call them the diva of all cows. Are they fucking majestic as fuck? They are. I can't wait. I'm so excited. I live at the base of a mountain.

Can I ride one? You can ride a camel, no yaks. Okay. But you can pet a yak, you can rub one to the ground. They're really cool creatures. And are they just so loving? Yeah. I heard the coolest quote the other day that said, if you want to buy land and fill it with animals,

it's because in the time of need that you had during your trauma, that was the only thing that was there for you were the animals. And I was like, that's me because I can't wait to dye my hair red and fucking be a gardener. fucking be ugly and just fucking have animals all around me. I don't want to eat horrible food that we're probably being poisoned with. What is your diet? Pretty bad. That's way better now. Yeah.

So let me drop a shocker. No fast food really. Obviously, I've had in and out once or twice a year. But I used to eat and promote fast food like it was part of my thing. Right. And I do not, I haven't eaten fast food in like three years. Yeah, I don't eat fast food either. I ate in and out when we were in Vegas.

Yeah, sometimes you have to. I literally didn't meet in sauerkraut and ground chicken today to just make my tummy feel better. I love food. Yeah. And I eat a lot of yak now. So obviously I raise them for pets and breeding, but now I have a full meat operation. Do you have certain yaks that you love and they get to live? People always go in on me like, you're killing your pets.

Yeah. The ones I name and I'm rubbing on on Instagram obviously are not being slaughtered for meat. So we have, no, we're not taking snowflake and snowstorm to the butcher. So we had the whole meat herd, which you'll see when you come to the ranch. I can't wait. And they're just there for food. Right. We're in six restaurants now.

Wow. It's unreal. We're in the busiest steakhouse in all of Wyoming called Fire Rock. I love that. Maybe we'll have to go eat there. Oh, yeah. Or we'll cook them at the house, whatever you want. Yeah, whatever you want to do.

Yack steaks. So then, of course, I opened up my new store. Right. The Jeffrey Starr store. We're going to go visit that tomorrow too. And meat. Okay. So before we get to the store, you quit YouTube.

You fucking left L.A. After almost nine years on YouTube, billions of views. Did you just have enough? It ran its course. And then the drama from all my old friends, they ruined YouTube. It's their fault. They really did. So the last final hurrah was two ex-friends uploaded a video full lies about me.

And it literally ruined the internet. It was at a point where people did not want drama anymore. It's on CNN, 50 million views. And they're all trying to flip on me because I just keep climbing and climbing. So we all kind of, and then YouTube itself kind of broke. The beauty industry of YouTube was dead. Right. We're all getting 30 million views.

No one cares anymore. Right. And it's a new era. The monetization on it has changed even. Yes. Yeah. But the cool thing is all my old videos are still there. Yeah.

I get a check every month from Google. Yeah. It's like residuals on music. It's pretty cool. Yeah. So will I ever upload again? I don't know, maybe. I've been asked when I launched big makeup collections to go back and

swatch them in a 30 minute video. Yeah. versus this quick TikTok like how do you promote a collection with 10 new items right with a quick little 30 second so you never know I think if anybody can figure anything out it's you absolutely you can make anything your bitch but I was burnt out yeah so we're on 20 years of social media yeah you just needed a break your soul was tired and then I discovered TikTok in that good way when you quit YouTube did you was that when you moved from L.A. to Wyoming was it already lived in Wyoming. Oh, so you had already getting ready to just, yep, you were going through a

change. Yes, a big one. Yeah. And it was, it was necessary. Did you leave L.A. just because of the humans that are there? Because I tell everybody, like when Leo Skeppy came on the podcast, I was like, Leo, don't go to fucking L.A. It's not the same as it used to be. It lost its sparkle. It's lost its magic. It's really not what it used to be anymore. And I felt out of love with it. Yeah. And then it was just getting so dark and toxic. and just so many weird things are happening behind the scenes and a lot of people did not want me around anymore because of this moment of like when all the YouTube drama happened I was going to expose a lot of people and this is a tricky conversation someone else's let me word this

the right way I got cocky and thought that I could expose someone else's trauma and story to X out someone else gotcha that person did not want me to therefore this person is still free wow and that was very hard to deal with right yeah but it was also selfishly wanting to let everyone know this person's a piece of shit right and it's like I had to learn through my journey of healing and through therapy that was not appropriate which is I never did it obviously right But those thoughts were haunting me. But your intention behind it was good. Yes.

Because so many people were trying to hurt somebody. We're supporting someone who is so awful. Right. So that misunderstood thing again? Yes. So the internet, as the roller coaster, my career has been, they wanted me to be the villain, I guess, that year. Everybody needs a villain.

And it was crazy. So this person begged and pleaded me not to share what they had told me. I obviously respected it and never did. it. Right. That shows that you're a good human. You know, you didn't do it. And to see this person still out there, they're not thriving like they used to be at all. It's just interesting. But the industry does have demon, demonic snakes. Yeah, absolutely. I'll have to tell me who it is later so I can steer clear of that human. Oh, his name is James Charles. Oh, no. Really? Really? Do we need to bleep that? No. No. James, you know you're a biggest, he's the biggest piece of shit in the beauty

industry and he allegedly has done a lot of horrible things he admitted to talking to minors he is a fucking piece of so that is true i just i always stay out of the drama he did a video allegedly not allegedly admitting to sexting minors so i never knew this hey we had a situation where he used one of my makeup artists hacks and didn't tag her so i just on my backup account i have a backup tic top i was just like hey james we love you re-respect you but you know give credit where credits do he wants to be the one that he did though oh okay i was very surprised right but what's crazy as everybody in the comments started telling me about the pedophile stuff and i was like god i didn't know you know like i stay out of it but one of the most vile human beings on this planet

lord yeah that's crazy well honestly and i have never really talked or addressed these things but he is a literal fucking monster wow and the fact that he's out there and somehow has a beauty product, I guess, that just came out. And A-less celebrities are promoting this alleged child fucker. Is, um, people aren't ready for the truth. Everyone wants to keep their mouths shut and they keep, why? Right. If someone is bad, let people know.

Yeah. No, I agree. You have A-less celebrities literally using this shit. Has he been? It's all demonic and really dark and all those people, they stick together. Has he ever been charged? I don't know. I don't think so.

Yeah. I think that's probably what people will we see it in the future yes I'm sure well also the Illuminati though not to keep bringing that up but don't they use people like James Charles to bleed into other air you know because they can easily access minors the children right yeah he is a big problem and I don't speak on him but they tried to ruin my career because of all the information I had wow it's really brave of you to so I moved away I stood up to all of them said fuck you

and I left that little LA County and they're so controlled mentally by it it's really sad so and you're free yes you're literally free but it's shocking honestly it really is and I never speak about this people ask me about this shit all the time

I don't dwell I don't really think about them but when you start you know you're interviewing me we're talking about the literal past I appreciate the honesty and it's like I'm always going to keep it real need to know it's not fair you could be saving another child you know like that part yeah but they don't take people are not taking it as serious anymore or like new people discover someone and they're like yeah whatever well

hopefully they will after hearing you speak on it because somebody such as yourself who's been in the industry for so long who has street cred literally you know to be able to stand up to somebody as powerful as him because he is a powerful dude yeah and say that you know maybe people will start listening now that's scary oh it makes me sick just like thinking about I'm so sorry. I have no idea. But I've learned that it's not, I don't need to expose anyone. I don't need to do any of that.

It's all going to play out how it's supposed to be. Oh, yeah. It always comes to light. He knows what he did. What's done in the dark always comes to light. And he is pure evil. Let me just leave it at that. All right.

Moving on to more beautiful things. Casper, take me, take, we're going to go see this ranch. The beauty drama exploded. I don't know Wyoming's coming, but I'm like, like, I'm just so overliving here. Yeah. And I also had an ego death. I love that you know when to tap out.

Yes. A lot of people don't know when to do that. And you know about ego deaths? Uh, yeah. Haley just had one on the PJ last night. She took a fucking, what? Really?

She took a fucking edible and thought she died. She was looking at me. No, but I'm talking about like when you, you're real ego, like diminishes. Oh, yeah. No, I've been through, I went through a really bad domestic violence relationship where I almost died a couple times. Horrible. That will humble you and literally make you,

take the shell of the human that you were off and become a different human. Yes, for sure. I'm playing this in my book. Like December 19, I'm single for the first time in five years. I move into one of the biggest houses in L.A. One of the biggest mansions in Hidden Hills. Yeah, it was a big motherfucker. I remember seeing it online.

Single. 25,000 square feet. Pandemic. Lonely. Pandemic starts. We had so much fun. We felt so much content. But I had a realization sitting in this massive home surrounded by all these things that it didn't make me happy

Yeah material shit doesn't make you happy no, but I didn't know that because I didn't have time to really think until you were working towards the goal Yes, so I don't know I want to leave California permanently. I just know I want to be away. I want to be in quiet. I want to actually go heal and not pretend and talk about it like all my ex friends and we I've been to Wyoming so many times I've been on tour right for years We passed through here. Oh, my God, stunning. So I'm looking around, Jackson Hole is very famous. A lot of celebrities live there, big mansions, no land. I'm like, fuck this. This is literally like going to L.A.

Yeah. We discover Casper. It's a small town, 60,000 people, a hardworking town. People are nice. Country boys everywhere. Yep. Oil-filled workers, farmers. There are some really hot fucking oil-filled workers.

I say on TikTok, I'm like, damn. Hot UPS workers, baby, listen. So we, we fly there a few times. We love it. Everyone's really nice. Instead of like LA, well, what do you do for a living? You know how they look you up and down? How can I use you?

It's how are you? I was like, people care. And they genuinely want to hear you say. Y'all really want to know how I'm doing? Yeah. I had to train myself to like, that's how it was when I moved to Nashville. The guard had to come down a little. Yeah.

Fell in love with it. I find a property that has a bunch of land for sale around it. End of the road. No neighbors really. Silence. I don't know I'm going to become a farmer and own one yak. Farmer Jeff. Farmer Jeff's in the building.

And all of a sudden I have all this land. And I'm like, oh, okay. I had seen yaks on tour in Switzerland. 2010, we're in Geneva. We're going through in the little tour bus. Yaks on the hillside. Could you have ever imagined in 2010 that you would own a fucking yak farm? Just that chance encounter with them.

I Google, are they illegal? It's a fucking bovine cow. I don't know this, though. Because I've only seen them in other countries. I Google it. There's even a yak farm in fucking town. Yeah. I buy my first three.

You know I can't leave it alone and just have them to be my pets. Right. Now we're, I'm surprised they're not in the house with you. Sometimes they are in the kitchen, yeah. Oh my God. The little ones that are trained. They'll come in and out.

They're really cute. The dogs love them. I'm going to cry. I need that. I'm going to go tell my husband right now we need land. And there are yaks in Tennessee, even though it's humid there in the summer and I don't really recommend it. My friend does have a yak ranch out there.

My husband, actually, I told him last night about your land in Casper. And he was like, dude, let's look for some land. I was like, I'll ask him if he knows anybody that's selling stuff. We're ready. We're trying to get a farm. And peace and quiet. Yeah, no. There's nothing like it.

Yeah. So what does Jeffrey? And now we're here. What does Jeffrey do next? Do you just kick up your feet and just fucking relax? Like, does the little boy in you, is he ever going to be proud? I'm really proud now. Good.

I am. Running your nine of the brand. Two years into skin care. I'm raising Tibetaniacs and camels. I mean, come on. And the farm life is so fulfilling. So last year, for six months, I didn't travel, except twice to do photoshoots. Everyone came to me.

Jay saw snow for the first time. We did a photo shoot in 10 degree weather. I love your team, by the way. Her team is, his team is here, and they're just amazing. And we're in the snow, 10 inches of snow shooting the Wyoming winter campaign. Like, we've done so many cool things. So I didn't travel for six months. I got to really become a rancher

Yeah And it's me and a few guys We do it all ourselves You get out there All the time And I love it Oh, I love it It's like my big pet project

I'm obsessed with it I love this for you So now we're just growing it More restaurants We open so we just opened up the store Right Which Yellow have performed at Iconic

Meat and makeup Like what a fucking crazy concept Isn't it cool And a lot of people Does it work? Oh baby Yeah I'm gonna call my store

one of the busiest retail stores in Wyoming history. Wow. And September. And you're there working it. I see you online. Oh my God. September 14th, two month anniversary. Aw.

It's a zoo every day, a line out the door. And then I started to like make up a funny concept. Celebrity works the register. It's my own store. I'm very hands on with everything I do. So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to go live and I'm going to just help the customers out and like ring them up. Let's just see how it goes.

I'm on a six-hour stream. It's fucking crazy. Insane. And me and TikTok are good friends now. We've just worked on a really big deal together. Yeah. Can we talk about it? We're working on it.

I'm going to do some announcements soon. Good. But they are very happy that I joined. Duh. One of the highest viewed streamers ever, which is crazy. It's not crazy. And you guys seen the battles, right? And you've seen people go live, how you can send the gifts.

The fucking Island boy is always on there. I can't stand that, dude. He's a piece of shit also. They tried to battle me and I'm like, no. Yeah, no, they're just not great. So it's all very addicting and it's very fun and we're working on some big Jeffrey Star moments. Yay. Which is so cool to be, and I'm the OG of social media.

That's what I was going to say. For the newest, hottest platform 20 years later to be like, yes, sir. You reinvent yourself. You're like the Madonna of social media. Yes. Madonna's kind of literally. you are you literally reinvent yourself and you always know how to stay you know abreast of everything and just he's relevant always always relevant baby i love that for you and i love that this this journey that you're on

i love this geoffrey right here just you seem so i'm actually proud of myself so it's so cool that you said that because i never really talked about that i'm very grateful i'm very humbled and i wake up every day like it's my last and i just go hard i love it i think if i'm given this opportunity i can't be lazy one day out of my life no so do you ever think you're going to be able to rest currently no you're a restless spirit like me i don't it's like i always have no matter how proud of myself i am it's like okay what can i do next like i have to stay busy yes no i get that i totally understand them and there's so many more dicks to conquer and there's we didn't even get into the dicks isn't that nice finally someone had me on their podcast and it wasn't about my deep throat it wasn't about all the

band guys and all the athletes. No, I don't, like, that stuff doesn't... It's so, we've already done it all, especially from our past. Yeah, it doesn't interest me. Off camera, maybe I'll show her a picture. Yeah, no, I would like that. Maybe I'll show her a few A-listers. We can, we can compare notes.

Yeah. For sure, but I just feel like there's so much more to you than the dicks you said. Thank you. And that is fun. You're a fucking mogul, dude. Thank you. Like, you can pick any dick in the world. You know what I'm saying?

You have the choice of dicks. Does the audience know that we've maybe slept with one or two of the same people? Um, well, no, but they do not. I never go into I never discuss about who I sleep was so Jeffrey except for that one time when MJ came on my podcast yes and that okay so the reason not the reason but but it accelerated our friendship is I wake up one day oh it accelerated it bitch I wake up one day and I'm on TikTok and I'm just starting my journey and I'm like why am I getting tagged in this thing about fucking sucking dick and I'm like typical then I'm and it's you and your friend

And we're and it was just hilarious. Yeah. So my friend. So MJ, M.J. Fresh came on the podcast and I get a fucking face time. I'm on the phone with her and I'm like, this is a Wyoming number. Do you think it's Jeffrey? And she's like, no, answer it.

And I'm like, no, I'm not answering it because I don't know who it is, you know, calls three more times. And I'm like, I'm the only Wyoming number she should have on that phone. There's one area code for the whole state. Literally. Shut out to 307. So I text it and I'm like, you called and he's like, bitch, this is your new bestie, Jeffrey. And I was like, holy.

shit. And he's like, so I heard that I'm sucking dick. Long story short, Jeffrey actually sucked one of my ex's dicks and hooked up with MJ Fresh's ex. So that's how it had gotten brought up. And we were just like, shout out Jeffrey. What if I, he's a playa, you know. So can I ask a question? Yeah, of course. How did she or you know? So that's all I wanted to ask. My ex told me. Yeah, he, we, I'm very open. Yeah, he was like, Jeffrey sucked my dick one night. And I was like, how was it? The tall was very tall.

And he's fucking built like he's got a little baby arm. Oh, my God. Oh my God. I'm deceased. Yes. So he told me. Yeah. Yes.

So he told me and I was like, dude, how was it? He was like, it was the best. So I have a photographic memory. Last name. Yes. Yep. Absolutely. That's crazy that you know that.

She said the tall one. The blonde, tall blonde. Um, yeah, so when that was she, when he, I'm deceased when he's, well, shout out to him for telling you. And he said it was the best head he's ever gotten. And I was like too fucking amazing. I need some lessons, obviously. Why do you think I flew in to do this? Yeah. I love. I do have a question for you though about one hookup. Go in and at Wal right. He can fix me on camera. It's funny. Yeah, that's fine. I don't care. Oh my God. Can I have a sip. Can we share? Of course. I'm clean. No, you're fine. So if a guy's flying out, he's getting 20. for our testing with the results to my email. Yeah.

Is that? Do you meet people? Not that many people. I've sounded like I fuck every day. No. Have I met some people? Yeah. Yeah.

It's every other day. You have to be very, you have to be guarded. Have you guys ever hooked up? No, but he, he's seen. Go ahead, tell him. Oh, so, so besides, can I say this or no? So besides doing wigs, Jay also does porn on the side. Nice.

He's a star. I love that. come Kevin come on I'm like taking with you I said well this is for talent but I'll bring you in for the day of man I love that because I'm like where can I go in because I started to get more famous as the makeup brands pop yeah and I'm like I don't want to go to this men's free clinic anymore people are going to think oh he has something so he's getting checked he'll make up the craziest shit yeah for sure and I'm like no I just want to make sure I'm safe and clean bitch yeah so I was like

damn jay I don't want to go to this place anymore people are going to like like take it you know because you're in the lobby someone goes like this yeah oh no and then they you can have the rest of it you're fine you so they literally people will say something and it's like word is bond like they they don't have to have any proof it just spreads like wildfire the fucking does that shit to me every day so jay hook me up and yeah but i have been on the trip like obviously being at so you guys are you guys like bfs yeah like obviously people can turn that into something so it's like you know i'm in a a very very strong click we've all been friends for years yeah so i was like hey i love that thank you

kevin of course well look i i don't go any these two are my shadow that's it and mimi like when you find your your squad that you trust we've had other employee like people have tried to fight us they ran and i'm in i'm literally trying to fight you guys looking like this and i'm like i have his back always i want to see geoffrey mad running in full glam swing i would pay for that Swinging, baby. I'm like a fan wanted to take a photo, but Jeffrey was having up on your face yet. And you know people have sometimes no boundaries, no respect. At all.

At all. And I don't tolerate nothing. Yeah. But God forbid a public figure or somebody acts on their feelings. Yep. They get bashed, right? Because they don't see the other. Yeah.

Oh, absolutely. There's always two sides. Give me just one second when we finish this conversation. Mm-hmm. The fan fell, one type of a way into a drink. I haven't had a drink thrown on me. I'm talking. And this was like a year ago.

I'm talking. The marijuana is hitting. I'm talking 10 years. We're in Casper, Wyoming. She can't get her photo right now. She throws a red bull can. It splashes my shoulder and it gets on him. Game over.

Let's just say game over. Oh. it's a rat i don't understand how people feel so entitled to somebody's time and body yes it's just crazy but i'm also so nice i love taking pictures look how fucking sickening i look i want to take a photo with you i don't want to hide in the dark yeah i'm hey i'm just having a couple people don't care yeah yeah that's crazy baby i don't care who it is if you don't start none won't be none that's it you know what i'm saying we're not we're not about the disrespect but most people are obviously really great. They are. No. And we do this because of you guys. You know, like without you guys,

there is no us. So all right. So I'm going to ask you some questions. We're going to end this on the hot seat. Dude, we've been talking for an hour and a half. Bunny's meeting. He's about to start. It goes by so quick. It's crazy, right? What's what's, it's not tripping me out, but it's really cool and amazing when I meet someone. And it's like, I've known you for a long time. You know, some people, and I haven't interviewed a lot. You've been interviewed a lot. And so it's your husband. And you know, sometimes or a lot of the time the vibe or it's the same fucking questions yeah girl you don't have anything else to say yeah and i feel like i've known you for a long time i love your energy i mean i love your energy i think that's the biggest compliment that you could ever give a human is loving

their energy absolutely and i've always felt drawn to you and i watched those three podcasts because i really have not kept up with you and when i got done watching them i told my girls i was like he is me literally like we're like the same type of human isn't it funny so she has watched me do a few podcast and then been on them it's don't you find it weird sometimes of some how people act on camera with me versus with other people yeah yeah uh yeah i brought that up to you before the show i was like you know maybe they're not straight but we're not going to say names on can i get a yes exactly all right so this is called the hot seat i'm going to ask you a couple probably like six questions i'm ovulating you have to answer them as fast as you can okay all right merry

fuck kill Kanye West okay Mary fuck kill let's go yeah Kanye West jelly roll Drake oh this fucking bitch I know

I know listen listen inquiring minds want to know I feel like Drake swings the other way so we're gonna marry Drake fuck jelly roll and behead Kanye West

with a guillotine. Okay, gotcha. And on my life, I have never slept with that man. No, I know. I've been in the same room. I've fucked a bunch of his friends. I've sucked off some of his homies. Yeah.

I don't like short dudes. Yeah. It's like guys that wear eyeliner. Yeah. I'm not into short kings. You're not a king if you're short. Mm-mm. Because you can, I love tall guys too.

So, yeah, my average is like a nice six-four and up. Right. Tallest I've been with six-10, right? And you wear heels. That's your 6-10, call me. I mean he's overseas playing basketball right now I was going to say it's got to be hard to find a six tenor what's the weaning on that look like oh my goodness literally oh lord it's giving medium rare it's giving thick it's getting stunning it's giving statue what's the dirty what's the dirtiest thing

you searched on your phone last I'm going to be a disappointment okay I don't really search dirty things right I'm I'm someone that's really into POV. I love when people film me on my phone. Another man has never filmed me on their phone. Yeah. Um, but on my Google searches.

That's amazing that you've never let another man film you. Hell no. And when they come over, your phone's in the car. Wow. Yeah. Do you make them sign NDAs? Absolutely.

See, people get mad at me for making bitches sign NDAs. No, it's real. You have to. You have to protect yourself, dude. And you also know when you've been doing this for a long time as ex-prostitutes, you know someone's energy. Absolutely. Whether they a band groupie, a normal girl on the street,

or an escort, you know if someone's trying to be fishy. Yeah. And you don't think we know if someone's trying to pull up a camp. But even if they're not trying to be fishy at that time, once they don't have your time or your attention, then they get fucking shady. Wow. Like that's how people are. That's a big statement.

It's so fucked up. What's the worst thing you've ever sent to the wrong person? We air drop people on planes just fucking around all the time. We fucking will like screenshot nasty shit. when something is near something I have but thank God it was with a friend of like here's a wiener in my mouth like that could ruin my

to me it wouldn't ruin my career people would actually like that but like you want to see a picture that Jay took sure I would love to this is on a little private jet moment I'm like I would love to yeah and obviously I'm like hey are you know are you down to take a photo

because there's weird artists like there's the R Kelly side and then there's like your friends and you all have fun side okay yeah we're in the very fun side of life when we're in the private jet and the sky is just blinging it just looks stunning whose wiener is that all i saw was dick isn't that cute the body it was attached to yes that is a huge we isn't that cute goodness yes yes it's very cute it's beautiful right but i love and i'm really

into like a nice 12 that is huge yeah do you take that so my maximum of deep throating and i'll mythus on Bunny's show is a 12 inch right after that I can't take anymore I mean that's 12 inches is a lot do you take that this folder's banging all right let's finish these questions oh my god look at these fendie glasses fuck good lord okay that is beautiful that was a beautiful penis that was a different penis right oh way different okay I was like that one's gorgeous those are three I need to see who that's attached to later okay I'm getting forklimps. I'm in heat.

He's for climped over here. Who's not doing merch right now? Jack, Jack from sleeping with sirens. He's over here. Never hooked up with him either. Really? But a lot of his friends.

We were trying to put. He's too short. We were trying to put bets on Alex or Jack. I was like. Neither. On God, neither. Yeah. We'll bleep this out.

They're both too short. Yeah. No, you don't have to bleep it out because I didn't. He said too short. What's the grossest thing that comes out of your, that has came out of your body? That has came out of your body. huh i'm usually really quick i stumped geoffrey jay's like i know

i'm like i know because i'm like i'm very like i'm so clean like i never sweat i never smell i'm so like a cleanly person same i'm the same way something like going out is like i got hair transplant surgery so seeing my so seeing my skin i know this is the answer people want but seeing the skin removed while you're awake and then having it because you're giving yourself an organ transplant yeah and then seeing it moved to the front was crazy was that painful yeah it was and it's worth every penny worth every penny my husband wants that and I'm like baby my doctor's the best in America okay oh he's out here yeah it takes like two or three weeks to heal so when he's on the next album yeah or doing something not on tour yeah amazing time to do it

all right I'll talk to him about it yes all right we got you hooked up daddy oh my god we got you baby doctor's daring we love you all right would you rather make out with a dude who choose tobacco or go down on a girl on her period grow on a period his face I said the same thing because they could keep a tampon in you know what I'm saying period exactly and then I just the Wyoming and all the fucking chew disgusty yeah choose gross or how they don't I don't want to make out with you with that fucking tar on your gums I'm not doing it's nasty I'm not doing it I don't do the cigarettes on and your cum tastes weird absolutely no yuck tangy tangy come it's so gross what's your favorite song right now sexy red and sukey hood rats

he loves sexy red i'm obsessed with literally hip pop oh and then i'm i don't even know this person oh my god the penis is still on my phone jesus that was big oh my god no it was a big penis look at the other angle no it's crazy that was like a 10 and a half i love how happy you look with a dick in your mouth though Like you literally like it's my happy place. Jay is over here shaking his head right now. I'm going to shout out a newer country artist, Josh Malloy. Yeah. Fucking incredible.

You humped him? No, no, no, not yet. He has a song called Met the Devil in Oklahoma. Okay. I haven't heard of me. Amazing. It's cool. I can't wait.

And I love country. I just don't do the tobacco, y'all. No, it's so gross. So if you want to fuck this face and use me as a basketball, no tobacco. Listen, and I'll tell you. you right now the pictures i just saw i've never seen a happier human with a dick in their really like you're just lit up like a christmas tree yeah besides like doing makeup that's my happy place i love it i love it and i love you i appreciate you coming on the podcast jeffrey i'm so glad

my knees transplants healed before i came here oh on a real level you guys bunny is a fucking queen she's a mogul she's an entrepreneur and i have so much respect for you and thank you for having me on your show baby i appreciate you so much thank you you want to shout out your so I'm sure everybody knows where you're at. Listen, Jeffreystar.com. Jeffrey star on literally everything. And no OnlyFans. I'm so easy.

Only fans offered me a lot of money. Almost did it. Started doing all that type of stuff. Didn't take the deal. Didn't need the money, but it was also very exciting. But it's just not time. Not yet.

So in the future, I don't honestly know. Hold out like you did with TikTok. I don't have the desire to right now. Yeah, absolutely. Is there a tutorial coming at me at the 12 inches? I think that would be hot. I think somebody, we need that tutorial. Because I was told by an ex that he was the best head he ever had.

And I'm pretty, listen, I like to pride myself. I can't believe that. Because it's a, listen, this dude has a fucking little baby arm is what I call it. It's like a fucking huge day. And accondas have nothing on me. Crazy. It's going to be a long trip back to Wyoming. That's it.

Do we have cucumbers on the bus? All right, y'all. Dislocating Jaws since 1985. Thank you guys for tuning in. To do another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye. You know,