Dumb Blonde - TBT: Leo Skepi Is Your Authentic Guru

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

Throwback ThursdayThe beautiful Leo Skepi steps into the studio this week, radiating that signature light the internet can’t get enough of. As the breakout host of Aware and Aggravated, Leo has been skyrocketing up the charts with his raw, relatable takes on relationships, family, education, finance, and everything in between.Leo opens up to Bunnie about his own personal evolution—how he rebuilt himself, rose from family chaos and toxic relationships, and came out the other side like a damn gorgeous phoenix. It’s inspiring, insightful, and everything you love about a Bunnie Xo deep-dive.Leo Skepi: Aware and AggravatedTikTokWatch Full Episodes & More:YouTubeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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another episode of Dumblawn. Today I have my brand new bestie in the house. I know you guys love him online. I love him online. And meeting him in person, he smells really fucking good. And he is a tall glass of water. Leo, baby, baby, I'm so excited to be here. Dude, I'm so happy you're here. I did not know you were a Texas boy. I was born in Florida, but I just moved to Houston. Oh, okay. So how long have you been in Houston? Because I'm from Houston. I'm coming up on a year. Oh, wow. And I'm already sick of it. Oh, really? That was just, that was my Next question. Why are you sick of it? I just feel like I've outgrown it.

Yeah. And I don't mean to like be like an egotistical asshole, but like the opportunity is there, they don't excite me. I like to be scared. I like to feel like I'm intimidated by an opportunity. And I don't feel that. Like LA is where I'm moving to in July. Oh wow.

Plot twist. I haven't told anyone that. Wow. That's crazy. I'm moving because like that's the shit that makes me scared. So I grew up on the West Coast. And if I could give you any advice before you go to L.A. And I don't want to crush your dreams.

I feel L.A. has lost its sparkle. It's not like it used to be. Yeah. I don't know how much time you've spent out there, but I grew up L.A., Vegas. So it's like back in the day, it was like so cool. And now I feel like every time I go there,

like I really feel like it's just like a city of lost souls, if that makes sense. So I don't know. But I do not to be a dream killer, but. No, I literally went there for six days for a trip. And I was like, oh, I love it. Here I come. I love it.

Well, then go, baby go. It was more like the people that I met. that made it the experience. There were some fake people. You can just smell it. A lot of people say LA's fake. There's all this and that. Like if you don't have a good judge of character, of course.

But I can kind of like just like smell it. No, I think you can see through people's bullshit for sure. So I fell in love with you on TikTok. I think you came across my page and I was like, who is this fine-ass motherfucker? I was like, he is beautiful. But not only just your looks, your just how you are on the inside is what's so beautiful to me and like what drew me in with you. And then as I started watching you, I was like, oh, my God, I need to have him on the podcast. And then I saw how many other people love you.

And then I found out you out a podcast. Let's talk about your podcast. Yeah, my podcast. I'm the first gay person to chart number one in education. I love that. Which is huge. I get chills talking about it. Like, my nipples are so hard.

Yeah. Like, it's insane. But, like, that podcast, I literally started it from my dad's closet. Like, I just had my phone. It's funny in the closet. But I just started with my phone in the closet. like propped up on a shelf and I would just talk shit and I would just share like anything I've learned and knew about life that I couldn't find when I was like struggling and then it just like

snowballed and I've been doing it for like a year and a half in the past three months it is blown up and now I'm not in the closet no more is literally or figuratively isn't it crazy how podcasts can be so therapeutic oh I love it I suffer from really bad mental health I have really bad anxiety and like suicidal ideation and stuff like that which we just had told me that had about with that. And I've been doing my podcast for five years, and it's been one of the most therapeutic things I've ever done. It really is. It really helped me kind of come out of my shell. Yeah. Mine kind of is like sharing what I've learned, but it like heals me in a weird way. By like sharing what I've been through and sharing how I've overcome it, I learn a lot of things.

And it's like my own little therapy, but I'm the therapist and the client. Right. You control the narrative. I totally understand that. It's so nice, but I fully get it. And there's been multiple times where the things that I say, I always speak to my younger self in my podcast. So my messengers are very harsh and direct and harsh truths. And it's like, I baby you when it's necessary. And then I tell you to get off your fucking ass and quit being a bitch. I think people need that. Yeah.

But like there's so many times where I'll say certain things that I needed to hear so bad. And when I'm editing it back, I'll just start fucking bawling like a baby. And I'm like hearing like myself say it, hearing anyone say it was just like, whoa. But like I have those moments. I love it. Yeah, I love that, too. I love listening to you because you are so kind of poetic with your words, too. Thank you.

You draw people in. Let's rewind it, though. I want to know more about you, like where you came from, like growing up. I want to know about childhood traumas. I want to know all about Leo. And I want to pronounce your last name. How do I say it? Is it Skeppy?

Yes. Okay, I wanted to make sure I said it right. I want to know all about Leo Skeppy. So where was Leo born? Pensacola, Florida. Okay. Well, every time I say I'm from Florida, people are like, oh, Miami. I'm like, mm-mm.

The opposite end of it in the worst spot. Pensacola is right next to Alabama, but it's also right next to the beach. Right. So you get so many different dynamics of people. Like you have like the little city people. It's like there's certain areas that are like ghetto as hell. Like the murder rate and the crime rate is so bad. And then you have like the hicks and like the country people from Alabama who don't mind their fucking business.

Right. And so I have like that. And then you have like the beach people. And it's like it just was a melting pot. But it contributed to me being who I am. Like I got it all. Did you grow up there like your whole? whole life. Okay, so that's where you grew up. And then were you raised by mom and dad? Yes. So my dad is

Albanian and my mom is white. That's where your intensity comes from. Yes, but my mom moved in with my dad and his family at 16 when they met. So she was raised as an Albanian girl. So she has all the morals, traits, values. So that's kind of like how it's like she's white, but I was raised in like a traditionally Albanian household and nuts. Was it? super strict growing up or like super religious not really but I don't know how to explain it like it wasn't bad you're just raised it's like the way you can explain the Albanian way of life and culture is it's the all the morals and values of like the mob mafia lifestyle are instilled in everyday people so like the loyalty respect all of that is like very high health

Absolutely. And that's how you're judged. I grew up with a bunch of Caldeans in Vegas, and that's how they operate too. Yeah. Like there's no betrayal, there's no nothing. And if you cross one, you cross all. Yeah. So everybody will come at you.

Like that's just, that's the way I can explain Albanian culture. But like the biggest thing for me, kind of with all that, back to my past and all that shit. I got bullied in high school. I was fat. I was ugly. I was all that. But the biggest thing with the Albanian culture is the most, like the biggest disgrace and

the worst thing you can do is begin. And here I am. So were you always, did you, when you were a baby, not a baby, but like, you know, growing up, did you always, were you always attracted to boys or did something happen, like was something traumatic or? I wish it was that simple. Like I wish something just fucked up happened to me. No, it was kind of like a battle with my sexuality.

And I started getting feelings for guys at a younger age, like middle school type, but I was like, no, they're just my friends. And I was, like, looking at them a little different, and I would just shut it down in my head. I was humping girls when I was five. I mean, listen, I was a horny little goat. It's all right, you know? Like, I think it just is something. But the thing is, like, I don't consider myself gay because, like, I love men.

I need penetration, but I also appreciate women, you know? So it's like, does that make me buy? I don't know. You know, like, I think everybody wants a label. And it's just like, just be who you are. Love who you love. I know. I'm like that.

I wish I wasn't gay, but I'm just the faggot. I can't help it. Like, I like men, but I don't like little sissy men. Right. I like tough men. We're going to get into that because when I first saw you, I was like, he is so fucking hot. So I would think that women would try to, like, turn you out because you're so masculine, but you're, like, so in touch with your feelings.

And, like, you're like a dream guy for every girl. Like, you know, every woman, every woman's probably like, I am so confused watching this man every day. Yeah, I have a lot of people that try and, like, like, you know, I have a lot of people that try and like convert me and sway me but one thing that I do do is I don't he said that so calmly he said I do have a lot of people who try to convert me and sway me yeah but like I do like to make out with my girlfriends I love kissing girls I love being affectionate but when it comes to sex it's like that's I need the masculinity yeah it would just be so easy if I was straight so easy I mean but it's you love who you love you know it's like me I like to make out with the girls whenever I'm

drunk or like I'm going out too you know but I need a man to fucking toss me around so let's bring it back um you said in high and junior high school is when you started noticing that you were attracted to boys and stuff like that take me on that journey because you're in this really you know I don't want to say strict Albanian lifestyle but you know you were raised in a certain way where that's it wasn't acceptable yeah so I had the thoughts but I immediately just shut them down Like, even, like, as I got into high school, I was more like, okay, I am 100% into guys. Like, I know it. But I was like, that will never come out of me.

I will never act on it. I will never do anything. I will, that's not a potential. So don't even think that way. And I just shut it down inside myself. Do you think you did that because of how you were raised or because you were like, okay. And like for me, that someone looks like me and is from where I'm from, that's, I never in my life thought I would come out ever and just like to have like I'm such a

contradiction like the typical gay I'm not right and the typical straight dude I'm not so I don't I've never felt a sense of belonging or felt like I've fit in so I don't know why I thought I'd have like an easy time with sexuality but I don't fit any kind of like stereotype right and I like it now no I love that though damn challenged to get here so it's when you finally did this were you close with your dad and close with your mom or how is that relationship and do you have brothers and sisters yes my sister okay yeah so i have a sister and my parents my relationship with my parents has been back and forth like they got to well they started getting divorced when i was like a child but it strung out in court and it was like an absolute shit show and it was just like a lot of like things kids shouldn't

know oh we were told and we had to make a adult decisions from a young age and it was like like the loyalty thing when you showed appreciation or cared about one parent the other parent took it as a betrayal so it was very hard to navigate like I came from fucking both you yeah and you want me to pick it's like one parent was always pushing more of the picking but it wasn't really it was just a lot to take in and it was hectic with that but what was the question I got off track no I mean I was just saying were you close to your parents. Yes, I was close with them, but we had our, I've cut both of them off at multiple points. Like I've stopped talking to both of my parents. I fucked up sometimes. They fucked up

sometimes. It just was back and forth. But now I'm in a place where we're good. Right. So, like everything happened how it had to and we wouldn't be where we are. Isn't so crazy how dysfunctional all of our parents are? Like every, every one of us sitting in this room, fucking besides the two that, you know, that share parents. It's like we all have. dysfunctional ass parents you know like they just did not heal they were the generation that chose not to heal and i feel like we're the generation that has came in and we're like bro we're going to fuck shit up and we're going to change this shit no matter what the genetic DNA fucking trauma we are just changing this shit and i love that for all of us yeah i think the biggest thing with that kind

of perspective on it is our parents they had they feel things they don't like certain shit they don't follow the way that they feel they don't care that they're uncomfortable they'll just suck it up and just deal with shit yeah our generation is like okay why am I upset right do I actually have to continue doing this we started questioning shit yeah and it's like we don't actually have to do this like to live a miserable life no no not doing it so when did you come out to your parents was it after high school he's like I'm about to get uncomfortable I am sweating already take a drink Can you drink of your...

Shit. I drink and a cigarette. You have a shot? We have Trulies. Trulies have vodka and I'm right. I don't know. I've never drank one. I'm sober, so I don't drink them.

I know. When I found out you didn't drink, I was like, oh, fuck. I had to, okay? Listen, it was bad. I was fucking popping pills and fucking drinking bottles of vodka by myself. It was a thing. I grew up in Vegas, okay? Like, I lived the biggest lifestyle.

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I get pissed off or I'm happy. Why do you think that was or did you come to a conclusion of why that was? Sad and being hurt in any way was looked at as a weakness. So I completely cut off from that part of myself. Like I would feel numb, pissed off or happy. And I got such like a deep pit of like that numbness one time. I was like, I'm having all these like traumatic ass things happen to me and I don't cry. Right.

I was like, what the hell's going on? Yeah. So I'm like 19. I'm like, oh, how I made money was another story. Oh, we're going to talk about that too. Don't think you're getting out of that. Were you already doing that in high school? I thought maybe that would be after.

But were you, you said some traumatic things were happening to you. What are some of those traumatic things that were going on that you weren't reacting to? Okay. So like everything going on with my parents, betrayals from other. family members trying to be killed by a few people one was family why um crazy shit Albanian shit um my stepdad was extremely I don't know how to explain him and that in a dynamic of him but he was like extremely abusive and prepared me for life like he was an ex-con had murdered a bunch of people served his time got out still

operated from the prison mentality. So he was like... I feel like it's hard to break that. Oh, you can't break it. It's like when people come back from war. Yeah. Once you get... Your brain's completely altered.

Like when you see the world in that way, you can't forget it. So like he knew how dark the world was and he wanted to prepare me for it. But what he did to me was like do everything to me that could be done to prepare me. So like anything you can imagine like went through it. Like he had like choked me out, put a gun to my head like attacked me when I was. sleeping multiple times so i was always ready even while i'm asleep like people will come up to me now and like try to put a blanket on me when i'm sleeping and my body just like i start like swinging just out of like that did you ever suffer from like anxiety and stuff like that just that was at least

of my worries anxiety depression yeah yeah he's like bitch i'm trying to survive right like all of that was there but like that was a lot of it and then he was it ever did he ever sexually abuse you no okay luckily yeah i mean he did everything else at that point I I could have handled it. God, that's terrible, though. How old were you going through that? I was, it was like 16 to 18. That's so fucked up.

And did your mom know that was happening? Not really, but he was abusing the hell out of her, too. So, like, he was doing similar, like, abusive things to her. So we were both, like, trapped together. And a lot of weird shit with that, but he died, like, tragically. karma he was going like a hundred and like 50 miles an hour on a bike he had a ayabusa and he would trick it out to go like 300 miles an hour he was going like 150 and a car pulled out when he was going down some like oh my gosh and it was a freeway or whatever the

fuck it was like he pulled out someone pulled out and he hit them and he flew like 60 feet in the air his head came off on his helmet he was laying on the side of the road yeah that was like a big thing I didn't cry for like a few months well I mean that's kind of warranted the dude fucking traumatized you you know but i loved him so much he had a trauma bond with him it's weird yeah like he i know he hurt me in so many ways but like his intention was to help me and prepare me so i know you fucked me up a lot but i could take on anything in this world now i have no fear yeah and i don't say that lightly i think it's beautiful that you look at it definitely i really do and i understand it because i was in a severely domestic violence relationship and it has taken me

years to cut that cord with the person who hurt me the most physically and emotionally. So I totally understand. The way that you're looking at it is beautiful, though, and it's inspiring because most kids who would be in that situation would, I don't want to say feel sorry for themselves, but would internalize that, and it would come out in other ways. So I think for you to be able to look at it and kind of make it into a positive is a beautiful thing. Yeah, the real thing that made me flip my perspective on it.

was when he died it's like he was this thing that was untouchable like no one can hurt him no one could touch him i had seen him get shot i had seen him get stabbed i had seen him been hit my cars i'd seen him like take on groups of 15 people and knock him all out didn't get touched once like a fucking superhero and like i had this person it was weird like when i was on his side i was untouchable if he was mad at me i was fucked like he would kill me so on his good side i felt like safe and protected like he was showing me how bad the world was but he was the only one that could hurt me and then i saw how like dark the world is and what can actually happen what people are capable of yeah and when i lost him i was so fucking scared because i was like this person showed me how

bad the world is and is no longer here to help me to protect you and i was just like that's what made me flip it in my mind of like now i'm sad i lost them because i'm fucking terrified that was like a big part of it so take me on that journey after losing him what you were already getting involved in stuff illegal activities yeah can we talk about it a little bit let's talk about i know you said you've hinted about it online and stuff like that but what was leo doing were you like fucking so when i was like 17 i started i want to say escorting okay but fucking for money basically but I would never fuck anyone for money that I went to fuck for free right you know what I mean so I was like I don't want to do no nasty shit yeah but I started like having sex for money how old

we started off I was 17 okay like I couldn't get hired anywhere I was trying to get jobs places couldn't get hired so I was gonna make money yeah so I was an escort for in Vegas I know yeah that's what I'm comfortable talking to you about it because you get it yeah no I understand 100% I kind of miss it it's so fun listen listen do I not always say if I I will suck a for an outfit if I have to. Like, I'm tired of spending my own money. No, it was, listen, when you are accustomed to a certain type of lifestyle and people just being a sugar baby, like, it is really hard to acclimate to the normal world.

I will fucking harvest money in my bank account asking me, I will not spend it. Like, it's just, it's a frame of mind that you just, unless you've lived the lifestyle, you don't really understand it. Right. I'll get into my sugar daddy story. Yeah. So 17, that's young because you are underage, you know. Who introduced you to that?

Nobody. Nobody. You just came up with it on your own? Or did somebody make an offer to you? Because I know my first, the first time I ever turned a trick was I was, how old was I? Fucking, well, technically, I guess I was 18 because my first sugar daddy hired me at my job and bought me my first car. So, but I didn't turn. It was a Honda.

Okay. This was back in 1998. eight that was when i was born yeah oh that's crazy yeah now i've lived a few lives before you baby oh i love it um but then my first trick i ever turned i had met the guy in the strip club and he was persian and if i can yeah so i love it yeah let me hear about this so 17 you decided that you were going to enter the adult entertainment world not really entertainment just like the adult like i had something i knew people wanted yeah a big dick and i was young and I was cute.

Yeah. Like that was when I finally, like, got my body in shape. I stopped being fat. And I was, like, attractive. So I was like, all right, let's try it. And I had a situation happen where it was, like, I was at a certain hair salon I used to go to. Like, I would, like, be strategic.

I was going to, like, a nice hair salon. And the lady that would cut my hair would have people sit under the dryer and cut my hair, like, women, like, rich women would, like, sit in the chair. And I would get my haircut. And then we would, like, shoot shit and talk. one time there was a girl there i'm not going to say her name fuck that bitch but we were like shooting shit we got along and then she like asked for my number before i left so like we talked we hung out one time and then another time she saw me in the chair i had on a shirt that should

said like sugar mama wanted like it's a joke like i just like have the shirt oh it's funny and then we ended up hooking up was she older yes okay how much older oh wow and you were 17 I can never I'm 43 I could never look at a 17 year old and be like hmm like this is not maybe 22 but not 17 looked or acted my age like I don't act 25 I don't look 20 no you don't you do carry yourself very so we ended up hooking up and then when I was like going to leave she handed me 500 bucks wow and I was like what's that for and she was like oh I saw your shirt and I was like oh fuck okay she's done this before I was like fun so I kept seeing her like a little bit And then I was like, this could be a thing.

Right. But then I realized, like, sugar mamas are harder to find the sugar daddies. So that's when I was like, I'll start exploring sugar daddies and fucking men for money. Okay, so before you did that, were you still kind of like trying to, you know, squash down those feelings of being with men? Or had you already been with a man? I hadn't. You hadn't been with a man yet. So I don't know if I have or hadn't.

I can't remember. There's too much to fill in to what we're going to. But with therapy, the whole thing with that, like, I was talking to my therapist and that was the first person I talked to about the feelings I had. And like when I was trying to speak it, my body, like full fight or flight mode, like I couldn't speak. Like I couldn't speak like I think I might be attracted to men. Like I could not get it out. I was sweating. And like my body was like shutting down.

It's like everything inside me was like not letting me reveal this truth. And it's like I had to like rip it out of myself. I was like, can you just speak it out? And my therapist was like, no, you're totally fine. You're totally fine. And just like held space for me. And then I got it out. And though I am so egotistical and ego driven.

And I was bringing it up to her. Like I'm into guys because I like to demasculinize them. Like I like to fuck men. And like I'm attracted to men that I could like, I see all macho and tough stuff. And then I get to fuck them. It's like that. That is still a fetish of mine. No, I completely understand.

I have said it a million times on my podcast. I got into escortings because I got to take men's money. I would rob them. I would tell them when they could touch me, how they could touch me. And this is because I was abused as a little girl. So it was me taking my power back. So for you, it was the same thing of you taking your power back. That for you is healing because I heard someone, I think it was teal swan.

She talked about the version of healing that every. thinks it is is not it like healing is to experience the opposite so if you had an experience where you were taking advantage of and didn't have any control over a sexual situation to experience a sexual situation where you have all the control that's healing even though people were like oh it's fucked up you stole you this you that shut up yeah that healed you that experience was healing you are my best alia I'll fight for you I love you I'll literally save um but for you was that the same experience like whenever you finally did get to be with men was it healing for you because you you were you know I don't want to I don't I know this might be the wrong word to use but you felt

so helpless as a child because you were being I don't want to you know abused by your stepfather do you think that might have played a role even younger like you didn't have an opinion you weren't allowed to have an opinion because of being raised in you know that lifestyle so you had to be macho you had to be manly so do you think that maybe that in turn kind of like internalized into feelings of what you were starting to feel for other men and about how you wanted to dominate them and stuff i tried to pick it apart from every angle i just didn't want to have to accept that i was gay yeah i literally was like no i'm not into guys i just i want to look like certain guys i'm not attracted to them i just admire certain traits my therapist was like that's not typically

how it goes. Like she would politely like shut down all the holes I was trying to shoot in my argument of like, I'm a faggot. Like I didn't want to be. That was like the worst thing I could be for myself and my life. But it's beautiful though. I love it. But I was literally like trying to nitpick it. And I was like, am I attracted to them? No, I just like to demasculinize them. Right. And then I was like, you kind of are attracted to them too. Like I had to like be real with myself. Right. And I finally got to a point where I was like, all right. Like I'll just like do shit in private. And like I started like, experimenting and then I started going into...

Do you remember the first time with a man or no? Were you probably too nervous? And were you getting paid? Was your first time with a man getting paid? It wasn't transactional. Right. But I got paid. Right.

Okay, got you. So you were a sugar baby. Basically. So that's my first like situation. Okay. And like I was Okay, so like I met this guy And this is where my whole coming out part comes

And I haven't talked about any of this Okay I've talked about my piece of shit X that I fucking hate And this is him But I met this guy online And he was basically like We, he wants to hang out But I was like

What the fuck am I gonna get? Like we're on a sugar daddy website Right Let's make it clear I'm not someone that likes gray area Yeah me either I don't like to bullshit. Let's get to the point.

Right. Absolutely. Like if there's a transaction, I want both ends clear. Right. So it was basically come fly to Atlanta and hang out with me for the weekend. And he was like, what would you like want to do? Like shopping wise. And I was like, I want a Louis Vuitton backpack.

And it was like 3K. And I was like, I'm getting a Louis Vuitton backpack. I was like, okay, so we'll hang out. And there was no sex like promise or anything like that. It was just like hang out, see where it goes. Right. And when I got there and we met, it was like, the money part was enticing and I knew I was getting a backpack but feelings quickly arose and I was like this is not a sugar daddy dynamic this is not a escort dynamic this is like weird right and when we went to him yeah when we went to the mall his behaviors made him attractive at the time he wasn't that cute but like it was my first time I don't know who you're talking about

talking about so yeah it was my first time like getting close with a guy like that so I was like overwhelmed like you were able to be your true self yeah and somebody wasn't judging you so we ended up hanging out over the weekend it was fun we went to the mall I got the backpack I love that he loves the backpack even now when you talk about the backpack your little shoulders get going like it was my first like reflection of like yeah money it was like value it was weird because I was raised very transactional. Like money is what's going to make you happy. If you don't have money, you have nothing. So I was in school for nursing school at like from 18 to 21 and then I graduated at 21 and this is when I met this dude. Okay. So we went to the mall, got the backpack, had sex

that night because I was feeling it. Like I was like, let's fucking do it. Like we made out and it was just like, all right, let's try it. Um, next day we go back to the mall. And he dropped like 15,000 more dollars on me. Like a Cartier bracelet, a Versace Comforter, like some hoodies, just like anything I wanted, we were just like running around. Like I was giving pretty woman as fuck. But I was like, this is fun. But like that high of touching that type shit and like having that lifestyle, I was like, whoa. And then I saw him again and again and again.

And I just kept flying to see him like every other weekend. Like I'd go home and work and then I'd go see him. And it was just back and forth. every time we'd hang out he was like buying me a bunch of shit like anything i wanted we'd get it and then we started traveling and doing all these things but basically how it came to coming out i was traveling to go see this man a lot yeah and my sister knew the truth from the get-go she's the only one i told about everything she's beautiful by the way oh thank you she's so cute she looks like she don't play though oh she's just like me yeah yeah you could she has that aura of her like don't

around and find out. Yeah. And then we're like fun outgoing one. And she's like, she's fun and outgoing, but she observes first. Like she's like held back and just like cool. Then as soon as you like make her feel comfortable, she'll like open up and she's just like me. I love that. She's awesome. She's very protective too. Is she older? Yes. We're talking about her like she's not here, but she's sitting right here. I love that. So with the whole like traveling a lot, I was like, my parents were starting to be like what the hell is going on? Like what are you doing? traveling so much. Were you still living at home? With my dad. Okay, gotcha. I was 21. Okay. And I just finished nursing school and I was like I had just got my real estate license too. So

like I graduated nursing school. I had a week of between when I started my job. So I went to real estate school. And it was like 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. every day for a week like Monday through Sunday and then you take the test past the course and then you go take your test and get the thing. Whatever. I got that. And I had a whole trajectory for what my life was going to be. I was going to move away. I was going to do real estate. I was going to travel nursing. And then I met this dude. And it flipped everything. And my parents were kind of like, what the hell is going on? Like with this guy because they knew it was a guy at this point. I was lying and saying it was a sugar mama. And I was like, oh, I'm going to see a sugar mama. And they were like, my mom has never

been okay with me like exchanging myself for money. And my dad was kind of like, get what you fucking can. Have you? So this is real dad, not stepdad, right? Okay. So to rewind it back, you're very open with your parents then. So your parents know what you were doing with the sugar momas and stuff. That's amazing because I was the same way with my dad. I was kind of, my dad groomed me, I guess, to be in the adult industry. He was like, you know, marry for money. And like, you know, that's exactly how my family was too. So I think that's cool that you were able to confide in them on what you were doing halfway it's kind of like me and my sister had each other through everything we were going through and when your relationship with your parents isn't stable we had to take care

of ourselves right like they were there to help but it's like we raised ourselves we raised each other and like where the fuck was I going with that no oh the dynamic with my dad and my mom like telling them things it's not like I'm confiding in you I'm asking for your advice I'm asking for your help I'm asking for your permission okay gotcha I don't ask for permission right my sister doesn't either like I'm letting you know what I'm doing because you asked right like you don't get to control my life if you didn't like participate like if you're not there for me if you're not my relationship with my parents for a while was like roommate oh my with my dad it was like roommates so I was like there was not really like a dad relationship okay so it's not like they knew what was going on because they

cared they just knew what was going on because they asked yeah like they did care but like when parents like my dad works all the time and like that's his like he has his own business and he's always doing that so like you don't have time when you're running a big business to well big for him like should i have it talking about this i think they cared enough until like they just as long as we weren't tarnishing their name they didn't give a buck so if you stayed out of trouble we weren't making them a bad damn. Gotcha. How did they find out that it was a man that you were seeing? I don't remember. Did we tell them? It started when the court, like, y'all had to falling out and it went bad, and then you had to come out and tell dad that it was a dude because

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And my mom. I'm way more open and honest with like my dad is like a more distant connection emotionally my mom is very like close emotionally and I was like I sat her down one day and told her basically that I was seeing it was a sugar daddy not a sugar mama right and that was my first like talking to her about potentially being into guys so it was a lot for her to tell her to take in. Did she never suspect that? Like everyone had suspected it, but no one like really thought. Right. Like I was very convincing. Right. And I really fucked up the way that I came out to her because I was too ego driven, like I said, to own up to I have feelings for guys because I thought that would make me

be disgusting. And like, that's the worst thing you can fucking be is gay. So I was like, I want to be able to like be honest about what I'm doing but not have to take on the shame and the embarrassment so I was like yeah I'm just fucking him for money though and my mom was like okay that I'm not all right with and like her reaction was like she's all for me being gay she's very accepting and the day that we had the conversation I misread it I thought she was not okay with me being gay she was not okay with me just fucking a guy for money she's like you don't need to be doing this to him like if he's over here thinking you actually like him and you're just fucking him for money that's not fair right i was in a full-on relationship with this person it was not that right i just couldn't

take the ego hit i was like i'd rather say i'm fucking him for money so i can live the best of both worlds i can be in my relationship and my family doesn't think less of me but that just shows like the dynamic in my head of like i thought it was better to look like an escort than to be gay, which like, not that there's wrong with either of them, I could just handle, I'm fucking him for money, not that I genuinely like him. You weren't accepting it within yourself that you were gay yet. So it was hard for you to even put that into words. So I really hurt my mom in this because I cut her off.

Because I thought she wasn't okay with my sexuality. She wasn't okay with what I was saying that I was doing to this guy. and we had like a big like fight about it and then I cut her off for like three months and we didn't talk and then I like as I was so emotional in my own head and trying to keep up with all these different stories I misread what my mom was saying and I feel so bad about that genuinely but I after everything calmed down then I was further along in the relationship I was thinking about my mom and I was like Leo you fucked up so I had to reach back out to her and like we had a conversation and she clearly cleared it up that she was she's totally okay with me being gay she's fully fucking supportive and anyone that speaks bad of me now she's like this up like gun out like say to say it again like she's fully there for me in supports but like she cleared it up and was like my problem was never that you were gay i don't want you to ever think that my problem was that you were one like looking at yourself like you're something just disposable you can just exchange for

money and two like she's like you're better like you're worth more than that and like if you're going to be doing it for a couple bags and some jewelry be doing it for a house right like she didn't encourage that but she's like don't be little yourself like for some little shit like and then she was like we love mom me too she was like the fact that you were doing it to him like I had convinced her I was like manipulating him right like I actually liked him and I was just using him for money and she was like I was not cool with that right and she's like I'm still not cool with it but I am okay with you being gay and then I came clean and was like well I'm actually dating him like I had to come out and I felt so bad I was like I owe my mom the truth so if even if it makes me

look like shit I'm more accepted of it and myself now so I came clean I was like I'm actually dating him and she was so oh my god I want to meet him and she was like it makes me feel better that you're not just like using him right and so like we reconnected and rekindled and they were tighter than we've ever been so I'm very happy about that she did meet him multiple times I came when I moved to like when I moved to Atlanta and lived with them she came and visited like it was a very cool thing I love that but I didn't come out to my my dad still thought it was a sugar mama right so I need to drink some water is this where it gets fucked up oh god I feel so bad you've been through so much dude like you guys have had a pretty brutal childhood you know people ask me how I am

the way that I am and I'm like there's nothing I haven't been through yeah I don't say that lightly you're a warrior i don't want to i didn't sign up to be god's toughest fucking soldier okay he hands his battle his hands that what is it he hands his hardest battles to the people who can handle it i say the same thing i've been through a lot of shit too and i'm like okay lord enough i've had fucking enough like it but you know what my life as i've gotten older has gotten smoother so maybe it just happens in the beginning so that the rest of the ride is just home free you know yeah but when i die and i get to the gates of heaven i'm swinging I don't give a fuck.

He's like, why did you do that to me? Everything you wanted to throw at me, there's consequences. Wait until I get up there. Yeah. I swear to God. All right. So let's circle back to dad finding out. Okay.

So when I left my ex, like the most fucked up shit you can do to someone in a relationship, he did. Everything you can think of that could go wrong. What happened? Everything, think of something right now that could go wrong in a relationship. I mean, abuse. Yeah, yeah. He's like, yeah, that's small. Physical, emotional, what else you got?

Yeah, I mean, I don't, trying to kill you? No. He didn't try to kill you. That would have been easy. Oh, he actually did try to kill me because he did lie to me about having HIV. Oh, my goodness. That's something I've never said on the internet. Wow.

Mm-hmm. So he had HIV. That just made my heart drop. So he had HIV, and this. was your first experience with a man and he lied to you I asked him before like I'm very paranoid about STDs yeah always have been and I asked them before I met up with him I was like you're clean you have nothing like he was like yes like I'm clean I'm like fully like nothing and he never once tried to look out for my safety never once told me to use a condom

never once told me to anything that's attempted murder i know and never told me to get on prep never like nothing like never took one precaution for me to like protect myself like knew what he was doing he was 42 risk in a 21 year old's life oh so that was a big component but when i left him this you might have to cut out but he also oh no right well shit cut that part out i just want to believe it can we bleep it we'll bleep it is this dude on the internet because now i got to google no he's fucking hidden in a hole somewhere he's so goddamn scared shitless yeah don't protect him if he's this man literally jeopardized your fucking life dude where you did you get tested afterwards and all that stuff i'm still negative

i'm clean thank fucking god i literally was so freaked out after I found out like I got like a weird like rash from lifting weights too hard like I busted like a vessel in my arm and I was like it's the HIV I was like oh my god I'm dying but I got tested thankfully HIV is so manageable now and people can live lives with it and it's not like it was back in the fucking 80s you know like it's curable now almost pretty much yeah there's medications to make it dormant yeah so like I'm a nurse and I know all the background to all that but I got on prep they're just out of fear and every like month I was getting tested because it can lay dormant for six months and then just pop up.

What is PrEP for people who don't know? Prep is a medication that basically lowers your chances of contracting HIV from someone who has it. It's not going to take it away. But it's better to have like a little like soldier in your bloodstream. Okay. How long were you guys together? Ten months. Okay.

And so you guys have this awful breakup and take me on that ride. That I made, I had to make a fucking podcast episode about that. I need to listen to this podcast episode. Episode 60, my podcast. Literally everything you can do to someone in a relationship happened. And then when I left, he tried to destroy me. Tell everybody your podcast name really quick. Aware and aggravated.

Aware and aggravated. Episode 60. Go listen to it right now. Yeah, that one's a lot. And that's kind of like how I got started on social media and all that. But basically he attacked my life in every way that he could because I left him. I was like, the money's not enough. You're not enough.

you're like I want to get the fuck away from you so let's let I want to talk about that because I've had so many sugar daddies who were so fucking abusive I'm talking like they think just because they spend money on you that they own you and I don't think that's talked about a lot a lot you know because we laugh about it and we're like yeah being a sugar baby's awesome blah blah blah but there's also a very dark side to it too you know like you have to understand that you don't get all of these things for free and it's not always fucking unicorns and butterflies half the time a lot of These people have, like, trauma that they've never dealt with, mental illness and just shit that they take out on you because they feel like they're paying you and you have to deal

with whatever it is they fucking dish out at you. Right. That was one of the big things is when I left. We were spending like $100,000 a month on anything. Wow. Clothes, trips, traveling the world, Bora, Bora, Paris. Like, anything we wanted to do, we were doing it. I got access to a lifestyle.

I've always dreamed of. Yeah. And it wasn't enough. and I literally was like I'm fucking done with you like get the fuck away from me yeah like before I kill you right because there the night that I found out about the HIV thing how did you find out um sticky story I'm a snoopy fuck I'm nosy don't trust no one it's tattooed on my hair and for a reason um I like snooped and found medication and like knew what it was and I he slipped up I'm convinced if I was a man I would be Leo literally I'm such a

Violent human, too. You have no idea. People don't realize that. Best selling merch is my hoodie and t-shirt. I say not above violence. I need that. I'm going to order it. I'll literally send you a whole bunch. Please do. That's a lot, dude. For somebody to, you guys have been together for 10 months and he's just now saying, yes, I risked your life. Was he remorseful? Or was it more like, yeah, I risked your life? No. And one of the worst things was he told me everything he was buying for me is because I was worth it. And I was always like, why are you spending so much money?

me like it was at a point where like I didn't even want shit anymore like after like three months I was like we can slow down I'm good I got enough shit and he just kept pushing and pushing and more and more and would just surprise me with shit buy me shit forced me to go shopping and I was like I didn't get it I was like why do you keep buying so much like we're together you've got me like I'm not going anywhere like I thought it was an overcompensation and he was like it's because you're worth it and I just want you to know that when I found that about the HIV thing he was not remorseful at all he immediately flipped and was like the real reason I've been buying you everything and spending so much money on you is because I knew I had HIV and when you found out he said I knew how guilty you'd feel to get me arrested because he saw my heart and he saw how much I care about people and he was like you're not worth it oh my god and was like I would like I was looking out for my ass and he's like and now you're not going to go to the cops about it because you don't call cops And I was like, this motherfucker. Wow.

I just got goosebumps. I'm like shaking. But yeah, that was a mind fuck from hell. Like I felt so valuable because he was like doing all this for me and was like, I was like, finally someone sees value in me. And then to have that like flip and was like, I was doing it because I knew you'd feel bad. And you wouldn't take me to court if I spent $300,000 on you on shit.

What a fucking piece of shit. God. He doesn't have a name. You want to drop his name? I mean, like he's a piece of shit. Good Lord. Yeah. That's just what, like, happened in the relationship.

After the relationship. Yeah, let's get into that. So dad, he. We haven't gotten into how dad found out yet. We haven't. That's where we're getting to. Okay. Okay.

So after the relationship ended, he started suing me for anything he could. Defamation of character, domestic abuse, domestic violence, all this shit. Abuse of power. Trying to get me restraining orders against me because I have guns and I carry. And he wanted to get them taken away because he's fucking with me and he wants to take my way of protecting myself. I have no physical threat I'm scared of at all. Like even if there's a group of hundred people and they're trying to attack me, I'm a stand there and fight till I die. I'm Albanian.

That's how we are. Like I don't fear anything physically. And he was fucking with me in every way that I couldn't defend myself. So like trying to sue me for anything he can make up, trying to get restraining orders on me. went to the Florida Board of Nursing and submitted false claims with his punk-ass one-legged fucking mom almost took the other one over this, bitch.

God damn, Peg-Leg! They fucking went to the Florida Board of Nursing submitted false claims over me. Why are you laughing? One-legged fucking bitch. And I almost took the second one. I almost took the second one because I was pissed. They falsified claims against me.

Went to the Florida Board of Nursing. And they were, like, he had so much money to pay attorneys to like sue people and sue shit and like get things turned in his favor. Isn't that disgusting how people can manipulate the judicial system with money? It just starts there. It's fucking disgusting. So he and his little fucking mom.

I'm like shaking. I'm sweating again. No, I'm pissed. So they went and submitted false claims to the Florida Board of Nursing. They put my license under review and they launched an investigation on me for six months. But when I moved and left him, I went from spending $100,000 a month, never worrying about money again to going back to making 3, 4K a month as a nurse. And I was like back working.

And that mind flip and that reality shift, what the fuck? You've experienced it. Oh, yeah. Like that's when you're with someone with a lot of money like that, the meaning of money and what it is doesn't matter. Yeah. Like I was spending like 300 bucks on a fucking Louis Vuitton keychain and buying five of them because I like it them.

going back to working as a nurse and making $300 a shift for 12 hours. It made me go harder. It made me figure out like what I had to do. You know, like I was like, I want to have that feeling again, but happiness on my own. On my own, exactly. And now I got it. Yes. And it makes you go harder to figure out, okay, well, what can I do to fucking get there

without having to fucking be abused by somebody? Yes. So everything going on in court is how my, I had to go to my dad. I was like, I don't know what to do. I didn't have money like to spend. for attorneys right because like they were big cases and big things he was like bringing up against me accusations are crazy yeah so i had to go to my dad i was like dad i have to be honest because i need help like i called him after i'm like when i left my ex i was literally like driving home at like two

in the morning or three in the morning because we've gotten a big fight he called the cops on me and i just peeled the fuck out and took off and drove four and a half hours back to florida and i called called my dad and I was like dad can I please move back in and he was like of course like of course that's one thing about my dad my sexuality we don't talk about it we don't address it it's don't ask don't tell he still asked me if I talk to girls if I've hooked up with girls we just avoid that topic but my safety he will always care about like making sure I'm okay no one's gonna do nothing like to me without him getting involved so he was like of course come home come home and like I drove home and he helped me unpack all my shit he was like getting up for work at like

seven a.m. when I was getting there and he like helped me and I just like went to bed. He was like just go to sleep and just wake up, eat good and we'll figure it out tomorrow. I was like, so I moved back in with my dad and then I had to come clean and I was like it was a guy I was with and now he's suing me for like all these things. This was a couple days after being home because it was like just a shit show. And your ex knew that you hadn't come out to your dad right. So he just didn't care. He was just out to destroy you. Yeah. So I came out to my dad about that. I was like, it was a guy, but I, he was like, did you care about him? And I was like, I don't know. Right. So I was still kind of playing that thing with my dad of like, it was just a exchange, like a monetary

exchange. And my dad was like trying to help me with attorneys and shit, but literally no one like knew what to do. Right. So I had to represent myself in court. I started studying law and doing my shit but my nursing license was under review and I couldn't work as a nurse so I started partying a lot and I tried drugs for the first time like the weekend I drove home that weekend like it was like a Tuesday that weekend I had never smoked a cigarette I had never done a drug I had barely been drunk and I did coke mom and got shit face drunk in the first night all at once had so much fucking fun you were hurt though no bitch I had a blast I didn't give a fuck I was in a house full of rich people and I was like let's do this

shit yeah so I had a blast with it and then I started like partying very hard to like cope with my life and like everything he was doing to me like defaming me online bought leoskepe.com and like trashed me on it made up all this bullshit this before I was online wow and like ripped me but I was just like partying and I started like doing more drugs I loved coke I had a gold acrylic pinky nail oh nice for like months love it I used to do eight balls by myself it was crazy eight balls and Xanax was my shit yeah I had I had the Xanax yeah but you have to weigh it out it's like you do too much coke it's like I need a Xanax yeah exactly like now I need a shot oh now I'm too drunk I need a fucking roller coaster man yeah so I got into like doing drugs and partying and then I was like

picking up for my friends when I would pick up and I would get enough for them and then I started realizing like I would go to a party and everybody knew I could like float the initial like thousand dollars for everything everybody wanted to like make sure everybody got their shit like nobody else was like able to out of my closer friends like no one was able to like front the cost to like buy it so like I've always been smart with money and I, like, fronted it and I saw how much money can be made there. Right. And I was like, here's my way out.

So I started dealing drugs. Yeah. And I was the Molly man. And everybody knew I had the good Coke and the good Molly. And I just started doing that, but I never did anything reckless with dealing drugs. I had this. Were you still using while you were dealing? Oh, hell yeah.

That whole don't get high on your own supply. My shit was good. he was like yes i was getting high like as i'm like packing people i always like packed it pretty in a little zip lock bag i didn't do the fucking foil i don't like that but like i have my little nail just while i'm going to keep me going like packing it up and do you still use here and there yeah but now i'm at a point i'm so scared to die yeah which is weird and now you can't trust well that's one thing you can't come back from you can get your ass whipped but you know you get a batch of bad shit and you know you're not coming back from that yeah so like i went from fully like not giving

a fuck if i died wanted to die to like now it's so weird people don't talk about this like now i have an insane fear of flying i'm scared to do certain drugs unless i know they're fucking good yeah i'm like so paranoid to everything oh my biggest fear is death i used to be the same as you i thought i was bulletproof and then like the older i got i was just like um i'm not immortal and i'm not you know bulletproof like anything can happen at any time you know that was the thing is like I didn't care if I died I wanted to die yeah so I just lived reckless you're happy now though yeah place of happiness so now you're scared to lose it achieving everything I've wanted and I'm like hitting my potential and I'm like oh now I'm like I'm like I'm like shaky as fuck I'm like I don't

it's hard to function yeah when you have to flip like that yeah but with selling drugs and all that one little part of it is I never did anything reckless I was never stupid I would never sell to broke people. Right. I was sort of rich people. Right. And being a nurse, I made connections with like a bunch of doctors and engineers. People don't realize that doctors abuse drugs more than anybody I know. I used to have this client who was an emergency room fucking doctor. I've never told this story before. We were getting fucked up, doing blow one night. And I asked him, I was like, what is the coolest thing to you about being an emergency room doctor? And he said, looked at me, did the biggest fucking line a Coke and he said, I get to play God. My biggest sleepwear pain points? Comfort that doesn't last.

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But, you know, motherfuckers in the medical field get fucked up. They are the biggest druggies and I love them for me. They put me in business. I made so much fucking money. but I had a thing with like all the people that I knew like they invite me to the party they genuinely wanted to hang out with me but when I started like dealing and getting them shit they were like oh fuck come to the party supply the party I said okay minimum a thousand if I'm coming right you gotta buy a thousand dollars worth the shit they'd buy three five thousand like

they'd just have people and they were just like oh I need more for later and I would just like go show up to the party hang out party with everybody get everybody their shit make my money and then party yeah it was so fun you figured it out um so rewinding real quick when your dad found out that it was a guy was he upset like or was he like okay i've got your back i'm going to help you he had my back and was going to help me but he was just like okay it is what it is it happened like you got money out of it you got your shit all right let's just be done with it fuck him right like it was trying to help me detach from it all good get away from it yeah love that that's so fucked up that that dude put you through that dude like that's crazy so let's

keep going you fucking are dealing drugs now your life of a party this dude's still fucking doing weird shit. Did you ever represent yourself in court? Three times. Okay, let me hear about that. I won every time. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah.

I'm a manipulative fuck. I mean, but you're also fighting for your life. So is that being manipulative? This person was literally coming against you online and fucking smearing your name. Yeah. He backed you into a corner and he fucked around and found out. I never like beat him. And that's my biggest regret in this life.

No. is not absolutely pummeling this punk fucking bitch into the ground. Yeah, but that didn't happen for a reason. I'm going to get him in hell. I'm going to get him when I go to hell. That hatred is never going to come out of me. Like that is my only regret in this life is not swinging on people sooner when I used to get bullied.

I wish I would have started a beaten ass a lot sooner and then not ever beating the fuck out of him. No, I get it. So I never like hit him. But he would like slap me and shit. And I'm like, you don't know what you're fucking doing. Right. Like if you smack me like. you're like I would laugh yeah oh that's cute so where are we going with that um so you had to

represent yourself in court three times so there were things that I did and I would on up to it in court and he was like he had a black eye one time because we were fucking and he like reached up and grabbed my nipples and twisted them and like pulled them nothing about that feels good and I fell onto him and like when I put my hand down to catch myself my thumb like I'm big as fuck I'm 200 I was like 240 pounds at the time like I'm big and like me coming down on you I was like what the fuck and like I put my hand down to catch myself and I hit him in the eye and it like the blood vessels around your eye are very sensitive so he got a black eye it looked like I like hit him but I didn't right he tried to come out with a story and take me to court that

I hit him and I went in court I was like okay your honor I hate to be explicit but we were having sex. And I told her like what happened. I bet the judge loved you. The judge like I'm very honest. Every time I've fought in school, fought and had to deal with cops, dealt with this shit in court. I'm very honest about what I'll what I do. And people can tell. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like I did hit him this time. I didn't hit him that time. Now what? Yeah. And they just like dismissed that shit because they knew it was so stupid. That's crazy. So did you ever have to take out anything on him, like a restraining order like fucking stop slandering my name online and all that shit i tried okay and things were avoided because he had many because he had what money money right

so well moving on from that what's leo doing now you won your court case my best yay let's talk about it we love an underdog story i love this so you go through all this fucking shit what happens now. Are you still dealing drugs? Are you getting online? I have too much to lose now. I would still be in the game. Well, take me, take me on this journey now of Leo conquering, kicking ass. I love it. Okay. So I started my podcast. I started getting online because like I said, he slandered me online. Right. So like he had this reputation built of me of like just this absolute piece of shit. Is he an online personality? No. Okay. He like basically defamed. me and like made this reputation for me and I didn't have money to fight it and once people

have a certain perception of you you can't change it so I had the realization like the only way to change people's perception is to show them who I truly am so I started getting online I was like I'm going to be so myself just genuine straight up me and show people my heart my intentions my humor the times I am an asshole like I'm just going to show it all because it will make all those claims become so clearly invalid right like people believing him did he have a an audience that actually believed him not really okay it was before i got online so like every job i would try to apply for things i would do and like friends people in my life were finding it like you look up leo skepe boom first thing does he still own leo skepe no okay do you have it good don't ask how i got it i'm not i'm not going

too. So I like came out of hiding basically. Like I was like this name that was built for me can I can just hide from it or I can blow it the fuck out of the water by like being bigger than that. So I just got online and started being myself and I made my podcast and all the things that I was going through. I was like sharing how I dealt with it because like therapists couldn't help me. Literally no one knew what to do to help me and I couldn't find answers. So I just started sharing all that through my podcast and I got on TikTok and started fucking around. People love my personality. When did you get on TikTok like 2020, 2020, 2021 when I was going through court. I started making jokes.

Like I literally was in court one time and I pulled out my phone and I was like, here I am in court because my ex is fucking psychotic and like couldn't handle losing me. And everybody like, it blew up and everybody was like, oh my God, he's funny as hell. So everybody was kind of invested in it. So I just like started like talking shit. Then he was trying to sue me for those videos. And I was like, eat my dick. I literally told his attorney and three of them, three attorneys he hired, I told

them all to eat my dick at least once. Right. Pretty sure they would want to. Yeah. Faggits. That's one thing I do is I'd be throwing around the word faggit. Like it's nothing. I love it because I came from an era where that word wasn't what it means now.

You know, so like even like the R word, you know, like we use dude, the R word, you know, I can't say it because people come for me all the fucking time. You can have a path. Yeah. You're me in a female body. Yeah. Literally. But, you know, people fucking, they, everybody's so fucking sensitive now.

And it's just crazy to me. I think it's intention. How you say the word is intention. You know, like, that's how you guys should judge when people say certain words. Like, what is the intention behind it? How are they directing it? Describing yourself and, like, joking around. You're not, like, looking at somebody calling them that being rude.

Oh, I'll do that too. I know you will. But, like, with me, like, I was bullied so bad over the word fagging. And it used to hurt me so bad. So it's like, now, I don't give a fuck. I'll fling it around. Whether it's derogatory or a joke. Right.

Well, like if someone else, I'm very protective of people. Like if someone else calls someone a faggot, no, it's a problem. Right. I could do it, not you. Right. Because I know I'm not trying to hurt them. Exactly. Intention.

But what were we going with the whole? We were talking about just how you fucking built, rose from the ashes like a goddamn Phoenix, baby. Yeah. Like a dragon. I'm spitting fire on these bitches. Literally. Just fucking coming up.

So you got on TikTok and you started your podcast and then just shit just started going from there. Yeah. I started the app positive focus. It's like an app for your phone that will send you positive quotes like throughout the day. Like really, there's a lot of apps that are kind of like that, but it's like bullshit. I made things that would actually flip your perspective. Because like when I was going through a lot of like of the worst stuff, it's hard to think positive about anything.

So I was like if I could just have an app that would like send me something to think about. I don't want to have to put effort into thinking positive. Like just prompt me on my phone and I'm fine. So I made it because I couldn't find it. I love your mentality. I did that. And I used the drug money to. Fund it because it was like 30K.

I love that. I used all my hooker money to build this. Work. Yeah. You got to, baby. We are the same. Literally. No, I swear, it's scary.

So I made that, got on social media, got on TikTok, started my podcast. And then in the past, I'd say, three months since, like, February, everything has, like, snowballed. Tripled. Yeah. Like, I gained, like, 2 million followers. Well, I gained, like, a million in the past. month and a half, I gained like 100,000 on YouTube in the past month and a half. My Instagram has

grown like 150,000 or like 170,000 in the past like month and a half. It's like, finally the value I'm sharing is being recognized. And I'm like, I've never doubted myself once. I'm like, these motherfuckers are just stupid. And they want to listen to Jay Shetty and Mel Robbins and all these people. Not that I don't like them. Right. But they just, there's surface level self-help. Right. I got the real shit. Right. Like. You've been through shit. I feel like a lot of self-help people haven't been through a lot of deep shit. They just like woke up one day and we're like,

I just want to be a self-help guru, you know? And like they just start. Wake up and start your day with a lemon water. Yeah, exactly. Go sit in the sun. I have a cigarette. Yeah, no, for sure. Like they're not realistic.

So you have this app. Like what is in store for Leo? Like tell us, what do we have to look forward to? Like any cool news that we can talk about. Actually, I do have some. some big news. Do you know the agency, UTA? I don't. Okay. They're one of the biggest agencies. I just signed with WME. So I know like WME, CAA. Okay. Yeah. The past three weeks, everything's been blowing up. I've been charting on the podcast. All these companies have

been reaching out to me. I've been having meetings out the ass. My manager and me are both like overwhelmed. I'm a one man team. And that's something people don't realize. Like everything that I do is by myself as of two months ago I started working with my manager but everything I do produce make film is all me no one edits shit I do it I'm picky same it's just me and Mimi we just hired on WME

in January I love it so they saw like every company is like seen me blowing up and everybody wants a piece of it now and they want to like help me and like help me they see me as a fucking check I don't forget that I'm stupid so all these companies

they also probably see your worth too That too. Yeah. So a lot of these companies have been, like, fighting for me. And I've had meetings with every agency you could think, like, WME, I had a meeting with them. I need to introduce you to my agent Sloan. You would fall in love with her. And she is a fucking go-getter.

She has a goddamn tiger. Like, she's crazy. Yeah. I'll definitely hook you guys up so you guys can chat. Yes, I love making connections like that. Yeah, she's amazing. But this whole world, like, just flew open for me, and I didn't realize this much goes into it. So I just.

signed with UTA two days ago so like they're fully like about to take over and like everything I want to do I finally have a team of people who can make it happen I don't have to be the one making all these businesses and doing all this shit I'm sick of it yeah I'm sick of it yeah I did it's scary giving up control because I'm in that right now I have to hire yeah I'm under so much pressure I'm just like me I'm kind of like oh I don't know you know like I just it scares me because we've done for five years it's just been me and me me so bringing all these other people in I'm just scared because it's like nobody sees your vision the way that you do you know the first fuck up I'm like you're out of here same I'm very cutthroat yeah same because I'm a perfectionist and I don't

tolerate nothing less yeah but when I was growing on social media a lot of people liked my podcast and asked me to start like can I work with you one-on-one can you coach me and I was like okay so I got my life coach certification and just started like one-on-one coaching people and past three months i haven't had time like i've literally had to take a break from it to reposition everything that's your feel good like you like yeah i love doing that yeah but i'm at a point now there's thousands of people trying to sign up for it i don't have time and i'm trying to stabilize everything with my career first and then get that black incorporated i don't know how the hell i'm going to do it yeah but i'm going to figure it out but i signed with uTA and like they're the biggest

they only have like 200 something people they signed paris hilton fucking Alexander cooper emma chamberlain bretman rock like they sign all these big ass people so leo you just signed with uta and you guys are going to just start working your asses off is there anything else that you want to tell us about that's going to happen in 2023 so i'm looking at doing live events like live podcasts we should dude we are looking into that too so and thinking about doing a tour and I would love to have you come on a couple. Oh, my God, absolutely. Yeah, that would be awesome.

Did you get the pink bus? Of course. I want to be in that one. Dude, you can come, come out on the road. Oh, my God. The boys would love you. You have one that'll fit me on sixth day. Oh, for sure.

Yeah, it's a big ass fucking bus. I love that. Yeah. But, so you're thinking about doing live events. Live events. I'm going to start another segment to my podcast where I start incorporating guests. Oh, yay. And like influencers, celebrities and talking about deep things and unpacking shit the way that I do, which I think will be fun.

That, the live events thing. And then I'm in the process of creating a vitamin line. Oh, dope. And it's not the typical vitamin line. I'm very big on if you do something to damage your body, do something to help it. So I smoke, I drink. I do drugs sometimes. Like if I roll, I have a lot of vitamins that I take to help with a come down.

I have a lot of vitamins I take before and after I drink. I have vitamins I take daily for my lungs. So that's what the vitamin line is going to be based around is I was going to name it Damage Control. Oh. That was already trademarked. Oh. But the name is the new name is being trademarked.

I'll tell it to you off camera. I don't want to reveal it. But like that's a big thing I'm so excited about because no one has the platform to do it. Like no one has the balls to release some shit like that. No, I love that. So I'm doing it. I love it. I'm so proud of you.

Thank you. I really am. And I just love seeing you shed your light on people. And just even though you have some really dark situations that have happened in your life, you have chose to spread light. You know, no matter how macho you are and egotistical or whatever, you're still just a loving human. And I think that's really fucking rad. So I'm just so happy to have had you on. Thank you.

Thank you so much for coming. Leo. Why don't you shout out where everybody can find you? Okay. TikTok is Leo Skeppy. Instagram is the Leo Skeppy because some fucking rat already took my name. And then my podcast is called Aware and Aggrable. rated it's on YouTube you can watch the video version and then it's on Apple podcast and

Spotify yay I love you so much Leo you are you are my new BFF by the way y'all heard it here first yes everybody get out of her fucking DM absolutely thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde I will see you guys next week bye