Dumb Blonde - The Trophy Wife That Built An Empire: Coco Austin

Episode Date: November 9, 2025

Bunnie sits down with the iconic Coco to talk about her 30-year modeling career, which began in 1997 and helped pave the way for curvy women long before the Kardashians made it mainstream. Coco opens up about her evolution from modeling to motherhood, sharing how she stays hands-on and sets an example for her daughter, Chanel.The two dive deep into Coco’s 25-year relationship with Ice — from their flirty two-way pager days to the unbreakable “twin flame” bond they share now. Coco gets real about her beauty and wellness routines, including peptides, Botox, and the truth behind the butt implant rumors. She also discusses her OCD tendencies, love for organization, and the challenge of balancing her personal brand with being a mom.Through laughter and honesty, Coco reminds listeners of the power of confidence, independence, and keeping peace at home — while always showing love to the fans who’ve supported her from the start.Watch Full Episodes & More:YouTubeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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She's the OG, a model, actress, entree. entrepreneur, mother, and one half of the most iconic couples in the entertainment industry. Aw. This co-co Austin in the house, baby. What? I need you around more. Can you, like, write some more stuff? Like, anytime I enter the room.

I got you, baby. Dude, I have loved you forever. So before when the cameras weren't rolling, you were talking about peep show. Shout out to Holly. I love Holly. But when you filled in for her, I made sure I went and saw it. You did? You saw it?

I did. and you did amazing. And I was in the front row and I was like, Coco! And like you turned and looked at me and you were like, hi, when you're like, we're doing your thing.

But no, I have always loved everything that you've represented. I love that you're a girl's girl. I love that you have held your own in a world that is so fucking brutal. And I mean, that just speaks volumes for decades now. Yeah. Decades.

Dude. It's pretty amazing. And you're still shining. Thank you. I'm so hot. You know, it's so weird to say that. like people say like when did you start modeling and I was like well in 1997 so like we're creeping up

30 years now and I I talked to girls and they're in their 20s they weren't even born when I was doing it yeah you and I are the same age oh we are okay yeah I'm 45 and you're 46 yeah so I was like you know there's a whole life before them you know even like it's just like even the Kardashians I hate to say that. I don't want to even put that out there. But, you know, I was before the Kardashians. Oh, no. Baby, we know.

They think the Kardashians started at all. Listen. I'm like, how do I say this correctly? Well, there was a bunch of people that started the whole curvy scene way before the Kardashians. Yeah. And I was happy to say I was one of them. And they just don't, they're not, they're so young that they just don't see that. You know?

And they don't look at the history and the lore of where it really comes from. I know. I literally, when I started this podcast, you were one of the first people I've been trying to get on it for the past six years because I have just been obsessed. It has been six years? Yeah, it hasn't been six, seven years, yeah. Yeah, seven years. Yeah, I've been trying to get you on.

And I'm just like, dude, I want Coco on because, I mean, we grew up together. We were, we lived in an era that nobody will understand unless they fucking lived it. And those times were amazing, dude. Like, they were totally amazing. Like, I go back into like the 90s, right? There was ravers. I mean, like, the club scene was, like, so dope. I mean, people talk about, like, the drugs and all that stuff.

But that's what, that was in. Yeah. That was, look at what, like, all the, you know, the crazy stuff they're having to parties. Now they're coming to light now. But I hate to say it, like, people were having a good-ass time. Oh, no. We were fucked up and loving it, all right? We were not some angels back in the day.

And so I just, like, I hear these stories, and I'm like, well, now everybody's prim and proper. Is it prim and proper or does everybody want to just fucking cancel everybody for no fucking reason? I feel like everybody thinks they're better than everybody now. Everybody. Whereas before we were all like equal and nobody, we weren't like judging people because they sin differently than us. It was a fun time. Yeah.

Yes. Everybody had their opinions, but they stuck to it like, okay, that's your opinion. Yeah. Let's move on. Respect was a huge thing back then. Like I, because I came from the streets and so I'm huge on respect. And I feel like you also grew up in that same era also. people don't have respect for each other anymore.

They don't. Like, it's wild. And then they also hide behind their electronics. So, you know, they can, like, bully each other, hide behind. They can say whatever they want to say in that hide. Yeah. You know, and, like, they, we didn't have that. We didn't have the technology that we did back then.

I couldn't agree more. I always say that the internet shouldn't be free because if people actually had to pay for it, they would probably watch what they fucking have to say online. You know, like you would be better stewards of your time if you actually had to fucking pay a bill an internet bill you know actually to leave a bad comment you know you'd have to pay for that right i like that you know they would be out of money oh because there's waiting to bad comment people oh no they're terrible humans but yeah but to go back to vanity vixen's though i took over holly madison because she was pregnant and i was they needed someone to fill her spot

and when uh they asked me to do it i was like but i want to dance yeah because she didn't dance hers. So I was like, because I'm a dancer. I like, let's dance. I don't want to just stand up there, you know, and sing and just like jiggle little boobs or something. I really want to dance. And they said, yeah. So they reconstructed that whole show for me, for actually my part or Little Bo Peep's part, I should say. So I had it. Actually, that was the one of the most amazing experience. That and, well, I think live show, you can't beat it. No, I mean. It's like audience, you can't beat. Yeah. They're there.

The energy is great. They're there to see you and no one else. I mean, you fill it with your husband, too. When you go on stage, when I go on Isis stages all the time, they're there to see him. And it's like, yeah, they want to see me on the sidelines. Okay, I'm there all the time. But I think that, and we'll talk about this, but I think people are there to see Ice Tea and Coco at this point. That's true.

They want to see the package. Don't sell yourself short. But, you know, when they see there and they're like lip singing his songs, you know, They know every single word. The energy. It's a good energy. And there's just so much love. So much love.

And you feed off of that, you know. So you can't beat anything that I've done in my whole life. You cannot beat a live crowd. Would you ever do another show like that again? Of course. Yeah. Would you go to like Vegas and do like a residency or something like that? Well, I actually came back to New York after that because I was out there for almost a year.

Came back to New York and I did Vanity Vixen's, which was another burlese show. But that was for only six months, and then I got pregnant. Aww. So I was like, okay. And then once I got pregnant, I just kind of put everything on the back burner. I really wanted to be a mom, and I didn't care about anything else. And that's why you don't see me, like, on red carpets as much or premieres. I used to be on it all the time.

I was like, here, go here with eyes, there with eyes. I mean, we were like going out like two to three times a week. You know, we were having fun. And then it's just like, it's too much work. Right. Well, yeah, being a mom and having to perform. You have to be on all of the time. And I'm like, you know what?

I did what, I said, and I've been together for 25 years. So 15 years together before I got pregnant. So it was a lot of partying and moving around and seeing the world. And then I was like, okay, got pregnant. And I was like, I kind of like chilled. I feel like you found your soul purpose, though. you know like i feel like you did the modeling you did the acting you married a gangster rapper you did everything that a beautiful bucks and blonde could do and then it's like when this little

baby just entered your atmosphere yes it was completely she was all you she had all of your attention i became obsessed yeah like it's amazing how something can consume you that you you've literally become like a monster you come obsessed with this little thing because it's up to you to bring that person up into a good little human being. Yeah. You know, it's up to you. No one else is. So that's why I didn't want to give her to nannies or babysitters or any, because I feel

like then you're being raised by someone else and that you're going to feed off of that personality. You're now, kids start learning about personalities and they take a little bit of here and a little bit of there and then they make their own personality. So she has a little bit of eyes. She has a little bit of me. but if she was with a nanny 24-7, now she's going to take from that nanny, I feel.

Yes. And I was like, no, it's all me. I want her. No one else can have her. I love that. So I'm very much, I'm very hands-on. No, I see it. She is literally attached to your hip.

I'm going to scroll down to my questions about Miss Chanel. I was going to talk about her later on in the podcast, but let's talk about her now. She is literally glued to your hip like 24-7. Like, that is your bestie for the resty. like seriously i think it's so cute and she is so sassy i just watched the video of her you were dropping her off at school and she's just like so sassy in the car yes very much like her own like she has an opinion about everything now and sometimes it's too much of an opinion it gets me mad i'm like

no wait let's debate about this she's how old seven eight she uh it's nine she's nine she's nine but going on 20 because when you're talking to her it's like you're talking to her it's like you're talking to an adult. Like, she knows things. She's been, I mean, really, she's been around the world in I, I, I, aye, aye. She's been on many tours with us, seeing Europe, seen, I mean, she's been in clubs.

Okay, everyone's going to say, oh, she's been in club, but her daddy performs in clubs. Yeah, Bailey has been in clubs with us since she was a baby because it's like, you know, that's what her dad does for a living. It's not like we're taking them there to sit him up on the bar to drink, you know, like, my dad did that to me,

and he wasn't even doing anything, you know? So at least, you know, ICE is performing and you're there watching her. Yeah. And so, like, she, that's what she doesn't understand why she can't go to a club when we do really go to a club. Like, when we have, like, date nights and we go out, she can't understand. Well, what's the difference you guys take me out anyway? And so there's some separation anxiety that she has when I leave her. Yeah, I kind of have, I do too. You know, still to this day, I breastfed for a very long time.

Yes, which let's talk about that because it's been like. such well here let's let's circle back we'll talk we'll touch on that too i know there's so much let's circle back to the moment that you found out you were pregnant were did you and ice do that naturally or was did you guys use IVF so no so what happened was i was on the pill for 17 years and um i really didn't want children i i was very career minded i was like hardheaded um my mom who was also in the entertainment business she was in soap operas and she collapsed on the soap opera, they ran, this is LA, they ran her to the hospital,

they gave her like two days to live. Oh my goodness. It was like, we were at, my sister and I were like 10 at this time, we said her goodbyes, but this is the day and age, this is 30 years ago when holistic wasn't a thing, holistic, people didn't even know what holistic was.

She took her, you know, whatever needles out of her arm and then left from LA to Albuquerque to work with holistic doctor. What was her diagnosis? What happened? Well, there's, there's a lot that goes into it. There's a twisted bioduck, cancer. Like, it was like all kinds of crazy stuff. Oh, my goodness. And she went to the holistic doctor and they shrunk a cancer with tea.

Wow. I believe it. I'm in this all holistic remedies. 40 years later, here she is. And that's because she made that jump. Now, I just went off track. There was a reason why to see. You got off birth control. Oh, so, you know, when she, when my mom was pregnant with me, she would say I had to stop my career. You know, I have to stop my career because she was like the first Rams cheerleader. You know, my dad was also an actor.

By the way, they met, I can keep on going on. But my parents met. We'll talk about the family after Chanel. On the set of Bonanza. My parents, when they were 14 years old. My parents met on the set of Bonanza, and they connected there, and they got married. at 19, ran to Vegas secretly got married, boom had me, she had to stop her career. So kind of

like I felt like internally, I could never have a child because it would stop my career. But that was kind of, and I know that your mom probably didn't mean that, but that was traumatic for you to have to hear that. And that was a lot to carry as a child. You know, you shouldn't have had to carry that and feel like a burden. Well, it wasn't like a burden. I just, always heard it and thinking, well, no, I'm going to have a career. I'm going to have a career. I'm not going to have children because it's just too hard to have children. She struggled. She was a single mom struggled. And I was like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to struggle. And when I got with ICE, the kind of things changed. So I got with ICE at 22. And he was like,

hey, if you don't want kids, that's up to you. I already got to older children. I don't need kids. It's more up to you. I was like, you know what? my birth control we tell i get to 35 i get to 35 i have a conversation with god and myself we'll talk about it then i want to like you know uh what do you call it uh so my wild oats right now you know which i think everybody should do that i tell everybody that even our kid i'm like listen party and have fun and live your life and then in your mid 30s decide if you want to have a family Right. You don't have to do it at 21.

You don't do that. Right. Go and have a fucking blast. Yeah. At some point in your life, you want to like, you know, do that. You don't want to have fun. So whether it be early or later. So I told I gave me some time.

So I was on the pill for 17 years. 35 comes. And I was like, okay, let me think about this. I'm like, what have I not done? Really? I've done everything. in this world, I mean, I have everything, you know, there's not much more than a baby is a pretty damn cool thing. So I said, okay, I'm not going to try hard. If it's meant to be, it will come.

So I went to my doctor and I asked, what do I do? And she says, well, don't get discouraged. It's going to take about a year for your body just to regulate itself because you've been on the pill for so long. And I was like, okay, no, no problem. I'm like, you know, I'm patient, whatever. And two months comes. Chanel was like, I'm coming. And I was pregnant. I was like, now Ice thinks it's him.

Yeah. He thinks it's him. How old was I so at the time? He was, okay, so I was, um, 33. So he's what, 50, 50 something? So he's, we were 21 a year difference. So, yeah. So he has to be 50 something, right?

I mean, that's good. At least he's not shooting blanks. Right? You know? Well, that's what he said. He said, you know, I can make a baby through a brick raw. A brick raw. I swear.

Okay. He's like, want you to? You want to? I'm like, no, I don't want to. So he kind of take that's, he thinks, hmm, hmm, I was like, maybe it's the stroke. Maybe it's the right. That's what I say. I'm like, I think it has to be as the right stroke.

Yeah, yeah. I feel like when there's a lovingness, that has. that happens with what i believe in spirit babies too and i feel like chanelle chose you totally she has such an old soul she came to me actually i got pregnant on my birthday no i know exactly we were in chicago it was a snowy day he was actually there filming um a a crossover with law and order out there and it was my birthday and he took me out to dinner and um i wore the right shoes that night I feel like it's the right shoes because he's all about shoes

he has to see me in the right shoes that's his turn on and to this day those shoes sit on my dresser as like a reward those are the shoes that got me pregnant and does he have a foot fetish or just a shoe fetish well first it was a shoe fetish

but I turned him into a foot finish oh gotcha that he started liking the feet like not like licking or or anything like that. It was more like he liked the look of my feet. And he didn't realize he liked feet until he saw my feet. And I've all, I never, I have a really tiny feet. And I was like, beautiful feet.

I was like, I didn't even know why I had cute feet. But I mean, now I work with it with, you know, but I think he just, I think ice just loves you. He does. It could be just anything on you and he's going to. Yes, you feel it. I feel the love all the way. But you could tell there was a, there was a moment there because when I

came back to New York, and they told me that I was pregnant. I was like, I know exactly when that happened. Because I felt like the, I almost felt like there was magical. I felt like when there was a moment that it happened. And that's when she like, hello, I want to come. And also the pregnancy, I mean, it was so amazing. Yeah, I've heard you talk about it, that it was like a really easy pregnancy. You did three pushes and she came out. Oh, my God. And, you know, I tell people that people are worried about their weight or whatever before being pregnant. It's really worried about your abs. Like I felt like if you have like really like tight abs, you, it doesn't come out as much. And then it's easy for you to get back the abs. Yeah, you look great. You don't even look

like you've had a child. Well, thank you. It's crazy. As soon as you walked in, I was like, you look fucking amazing. Just body. I'm like, I'm very health conscious though. It's like I'm a party girl, but I'm health conscious. I like, I just like rolling his eyes at me at the time. Life is all about balance. It is all about balance. So what's one thing that you hope Chanel never has to heal from that you had to? Well, I just, I really worry about the, the people online. Because I'm now seeing that she's reading these comments online. And she, see, for me, I'm, I'm hardheaded. I'm like, whatever. I don't care. Do you care about them? You've never met them in your life. But for her, she really believes that we'll see them and you know they'll they'll ask her questions and I don't know

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I think I've had too many people hurt me in the past because I've been too nice. You know, I let that happen. I let people do that. And now I've gotten older. I've kind of gotten a little bit more shrewd, but I feel like you have to get older to become shrewd. And I think you get to a point when you reach our age that it's like, you don't give a fuck how anybody feels about anything. If they're disrupting your fucking peace, get the fuck out.

Right, exactly. We don't have time for it. Right. It's, I don't care anymore. It's like I was trying to make everybody. I was always that girl in the room with that one chick that couldn't stand me. And I was always trying to get her on board. You know, I would spend all my energy for her to like me.

because I'm like, I'm a cool chick, sit down and talk to me. But she didn't like you because she was jealous. It's really simple. Exactly. And then she won't get to know me. And I think a lot of people just saw the picture of me. They just saw me as that model for so long. And that's the main reason why I did the reality show because I wanted them to see my personality

because I'm like so much more than a picture. And, you know, of course, I came to through. Okay, my modeling was mostly body modeling. I was a body model. You're the OG. Like literally, you set the tone. All of these Instagram girls have you to think for that. I say that all the time.

Anytime, like in any of interviews that I do or we talk about like, you know, this whole movement that's happened. I'm like, we have to give that to Coco, dude. Because I don't know anybody else besides like Betty Page or like, you know, who else could we even think of that was really, Deida Vantes. she was around in our time to like but she was doing like the burles stuff like you were doing like the spicy shit right or any of us were doing the spicy shit right and and actually the spicy

shit that I was doing was actually um oh actually let me go back I was like one of the first models to have a website yes because no one had a website no one would spend money on themselves because that was your business right to spend 15 20 thousand dollars for a website was like like unheard of for a model. So I was one of those. I say this in some interviews a long time ago that I was always against Cindy Margolis. Do you remember Cindy Margolis? Briefly. Was she the like she was blonde, right? Yes. And she was the most downloaded bikini model at that time. Yeah. That's that's my error. Yes, I remember. And I always have to tell people to go back 19, you know, like 2000, 1997, like go to that era because a lot of people are like kind of thinking this

time, go back to my time for a second, my time. Back in my day. No, I catch myself saying that shit all the time. I swear to God, or I'll say shit that my parents said and I laugh because I'll say it to them and I'll be like, you ever heard your grandpa say that? Like it is so funny because I'm just like, I can't believe we're at that age where this shit's going on. Oh, I got, I know. Now I'm saying it. But back then, uh, to spend money on yourself. You want people to actually, you know, use you as a, let's say this correctly. You want an agent. You want people to basically buy you.

Right. You're selling a brand and you are the brand. Yes. Yes. And to have that website was everything. And I remember you were advertising it pretty much on Ice Loves Coco on the show, which it inspired me because I was like, oh, okay, this is what we need to do. We need to brand.

And so I think that right around that time is when I got into webcam because so before I was I remember webcam was huge, like during this time. Yes. Before all this and before Jay, I was an Instagram girl and I, you know, I worked in Vegas out there in the casinos, you know, doing stuff like that. And we also did webcam and it was like you just inspired a whole general, not to do webcam. I'm not saying you inspired to do webcam, but just that line of. of work of being able to be proud of showing our bodies and being like, you know what,

that we are marketing ourselves and we're becoming the brand and being independent and nobody else can take that from us. And I think that you really are the goat that started all of that. That's so cool. Thank you. Yeah. I got to give you your flowers, baby. I do appreciate that. You deserve them. When I was doing a website, there's an area called private zone. And on the private zone is when I uploaded videos actually candid videos of me walking around doing this doing that no one's ever seen that because it's pre-instagram now Instagram does that but I was doing this I was I was doing this um you know photo shoots that were a little risque a little over the top for people but it was accepting them it was accepting then you know I'm talking about so I guess you know

people are really into it. Okay, there's like some famous or a known person, I hate saying it famous, a known person is kind of showing a little bit more that they shouldn't. And then people left it. So then when the Instagram thing started, I was like, I kind of been doing this. I've been, you know, all these candid shots. That's what I've been doing on my website for so long. And now I see like the girls doing my poses. Yeah. Because I thought it was an acrobatic post. The way you can tort your body is insane. That's what I was always trying to get in poses that no one's ever done, never thought about. Now, you know, I was always trying to think, oh, you know, beyond the pose, you know, beyond that moment, you know.

And now I see posts. It's like, I think the iconic one was the smooth magazine where I was kind of like on my, my, on the ground with my butt up in the air. And to this day, all these girls always send me the pictures of them trying to do that pose. It's a hard pose. I mean, it looks easy, but it's a hard pose. Posing in general. fucking hate it like you can ask them my photo shoots are fast I'm like let's get these like you're like posing you're tired you you're sore the next day it's crazy people don't

people are like oh you're just a model and it's like no you don't realize what these girls are really having to do and like contort their body and like get the shot it's not easy to look beautiful when your ass is in the air and your head is smashed into the ground don't breathe suck in the stomach point your toes like all these little things don't have crazy hands Yeah. You know, like. Yeah. Make sure you don't get the double chin.

Right, right. You're like, you're so odd doing it, but there is an art to it. There is an art to it. There is. You've always made it beautiful, though. Like, it's never been trashy on your end. It's always been just very, very just cocoa. And it's like, that's your own brand, and it's never been tacky, and it's just been

beautiful. Well, that's why I kind of went to Only fans, because I'm pretty much, I just took what I was doing on Instagram. and uploaded the pictures there because I think it was getting a little too saucy on Instagram and I was like no I want to be like a wholesome mother that people see I don't want them to always see my ass

I'll take that over there so if you want to see it you can but do you feel like having Chanel has changed your perspective in the pictures and all that stuff yeah I think about her all the time like when I'm hitting a pose I'm like maybe that's not such a good one

I'll kind of bring it down a little bit. Yeah, because I want her to be happy for me or proud of you. Because eventually she'll really look, right now she just says, oh, that's Mommy. That's what Mommy does. That's what Mommy does. But I don't want to ever bug her, you know, so I want to do an appropriate way that makes her feel comfortable. You know, she knows that's who I'm all about. Okay, Mommy's sexy. You know, she always calls me the hottie-toddy. I'm wearing my hotty-toddy pants today. And so she just rolls her eyes like, okay. So, So she gets it, but I want to make sure I don't go overboard that now she's kind of weirded

out, you know? So I'm very, like, delicate with it, you know? And everybody's always, like, going into that other page thinking they're going to get a lot more. And I'm like, no, I'm still a mother, guys. Like, come on. Yeah. And it's like, you don't, not everybody wants to do that, you know?

Not everybody wants to put it all out there. True. How is OnlyFans doing for you? It went, so when I first caught on, it was. Awesome. Yeah. I was like, people just,

like, just want to sit there and just get the same stuff that I'm getting on Instagram. They want the experience of being able to talk to you, though.

Yes. So it's like a personal. It's very hard for me, though, because I have so much projects going on. And it's just like, that's time consuming.

So I really have to even it out. Like, I'm only going to give you this amount of time on my page and then I'm off. I can't be on it all day. You know, I have to pick.

I don't even not. even on every single day. I have to go, you know, during times where it's quiet and I just have to answer a lot of these companies want to take over my page. Don't do it. As me, but I know for a fact people know who I am. They know my personality and they'll know it's not me replying. But I think that speaks volumes of you because you want to give them the genuine experience when I had OF too. How was it with you? Amazing. I made millions off OF. It's crazy. But I was busting it wide open. So, you know, your girl can't lie.

Somebody's got a picture of my butthole out there, all right? It's okay. It's just a butthal. I literally only shut down my OF because my husband, I married a rapper too. I don't know if you know the history, but they, they've always got the comparisons. We've always got the comparisons to you guys. And I married a rapper too. And then all of a sudden my husband is making it in country music.

And I'm around all these beautiful prim and proper Southern women. who are not busting it wide open. And I'm like, I don't want to be the only country music singer's wife whose butthole is on the internet. You know, I was like, so I prayed to God.

And I was just like, you know what, Lord, if this is the right decision, please show me that it is. I shut down my OF and I literally tripled my income after I shut down my OF.

Oh, wow. Yeah. So I always tell everybody that. And I love my sex worker girlies. I came from sex works. That's my, that was who I was before any of this. So I support it fully.

And I think anybody who's on there do whatever you want to do on there you don't have to well you don't have to just do i mean chefs are on there you know fitness trainers are on there i mean i think it's such a taboo word well did you know that oaf actually started because it was for music artists so oaf was originally going to be for music artists to have interactive experiences with their fans and then you know us internet girlies took it over yeah yeah yeah exactly right here we come you can make a lot of money that you can. Absolutely.

And, you know, I just kind of make it work for me because I can make so much more money if I wanted to, but I don't have the time. But you don't, and you're also Coco, you don't have to. Exactly. I'm just doing it because I have this extra, like, footage of, I have all this extra stuff. Might as well get paid while I...

It's passive income. Literally, you're making money while you sleep. I'm not going out of my way. I really am. I could easily, and I don't want to at this point, I don't need to. You're mommy. I could easily shut it down.

It's not going to affect me, but it's who I am. I'm always going to take sexy pictures. I feel like it's until I die. Yeah. I'm like, someone's asking about me, well, when are you going to stop? You hear all these comments. Don't you think you're too old?

No, motherfucker. What is that? Exactly. It really bothers me because like we're, I think we're setting the tone. You know, I'm really into like good health, my peptides, my liquid, whatever vitamins. Let's talk about peptides next.

I'm like, I'm like all about that. And I'm like, you know, I think I'm doing a good job keeping myself up. you know, like, I'm sorry, keeping up with myself, right? You are beautiful, and age, I hate the way that people, it's crazy because when somebody dies at 40 or 45, oh my gosh, they were so young. When a woman like us wants to take a sexy picture at 40 or 45, it's, oh, my God, you're too old to be doing that.

It's like, you can't fucking win. So we're going to do whatever we want, however we want, but we are really setting the tone for 45-year-old women because it was so funny, our daughter, she, like, will try to razz me. and she'll like, you know, try to like take jobs and she'll be like, yeah, where you're old. Finally, I looked at her one day, I said, I will run laps around you and all your fucking old friends.

And she's never said it again. She was like, you know what? You're right. Wait a second. You take that back. Yeah, because I just feel like, I think women nowadays were aging more gracefully. Yes.

And not that the women back in the day weren't, but like the golden girls. I was just going to say that. They were 40. So freaking crazy. What? To me, they look like more 60s. Bro, like Blanche.

was not looking 40. Neither was Dorothy. Dorothy was literally looking 73. No. I think it has to do, my mom said this, the hairstyle too. I mean,

the gray hair, the short. The short thing going on. I know. I definitely believe, I think if you're a tentative to your body and you help it

and I'm very open to all these cool techie things now that are out, people don't want to accept what's coming. so what if we live to 100 150 easily you know we'll be like batty winkle with the cool technology i'm just saying with people are all like uh i don't know about this it's not i don't know about i'm like but why not give it a shot maybe it might keep you alive longer that and with AI now i mean

people can have careers for the rest of their lives like it's crazy you can literally rebrand yourself as cocoa austin for the rest of your fucking life and people are gonna you're just every generation you'll be able to influence. I'm going to go out with a thong on and do the splits. Everybody's like, what are you going to? Can you stop doing the splits? I'm like, no, I'm doing it all. All this stuff that irritates the hell out of you, I'm going to do it all. Keep doing it. Keep doing it. Because I can't even do the fucking splits. All right? I can't. I'm jealous. I can't do a fucking split. I was in ballet. I was in actual dance, you know, dance for a while. And then it kind of just, I kept with the flexibility in my whole life. So it was like.

So let's circle back to that. to the beginning because you know you touched on it really briefly um tell me a little bit about growing up you grew up in a family of seven no um so my it's my mom and my dad they divorced that's when i was six years old okay my sister and i grew up in the same household we're like irish twins we're within that's the one that's always with you what is her name again her name's christie christy yes and uh she's really into yoga and good health and all that good stuff where did i get that you got You grew up in a family of seven. I don't know where that came from.

Now, I have three other half-brothers that I didn't grow up in the same household. Okay. But we're still very close. All of us are very, very close. I don't know where seven came from, but that's funny. It's right. Sometimes when I Google stuff, they give me, like, crazy answers. Yeah.

Okay. But it's okay. But I'm the oldest of the mall. So I set the tone. I'm very bossy. If you ask them them all, I'm very much like I tell them what to do. That's where you get your headstrong ways. though and why you're so independent because I feel like the oldest always I was the oldest in my house

even though I had an old I had two half brother half sister okay um you just always I don't know it's a you have you grow up in the same house different home yeah if that makes sense than your siblings well then you have to be the leader too someone has to be a leader amongst them so who's that going to be usually it's the older one yes usually absolutely so tell me about your mom and your dad They met on the set of Bonanza. You grew up in a Cali. Yes. So I grew up in California.

They met on the set of Bonanza at 14 and got married, I think, 18, 19 years old in Vegas. And they, she had, my mom had me. I'm going to say 19 at 19 years old. And, you know, she was kind of doing it in the world at entertainment at that time. She was like the first Rams cheerleader. They have, they have those reunions actually still to this day. Wow. I'm like, why don't you go to a reunion?

That's kind of cool. That is cool. To see all of these like little girls now grown up, you know. Don't you want to see where they are? So it's when you say a reunion, it's the ones that she like cheered with. Yeah. Aw, she should go. They have the very first RAM cheerleader, you know?

Now, now, for a long time, there was no RAMs, so they brought it back. So, um, so, uh, what happened? So they divorced at sick, when I was six years old, and then I went to live with my grandparents. And that's pretty much who I was brought up with in my grandparents. My mom was a single mom. So what was your relationship like with your mom growing up? Awesome. Yes.

She was almost like a me. Like when it comes, like Chanel and I have the same relationship. She was very much, wants to be my bestie type of thing. was very open about everything. You know, everything, she was, maybe too open. She told me way too much stuff early on. But no, we're very, very, very good. To this day, we're very close.

Very close. So it's my mom and my sister. We're like little like, I call her the three musketeers. And she's your full sister. She's my full sister. But if we're all three together, we all look like sisters. My mom looks not like a mom. Yeah.

She looks like a sister. How does mom look now? Is she still hot? Oh, so hot. Bangin. Yes. See, it just runs in the family. So hot.

Like, I'm telling it, when she comes around, I'm like, this is my mom. And they're like, oh, my God, really. She doesn't. She's like a little petite thing. Blonde, big boobs kind of like, you know, we all have a similarity type of thing. But, get to this, I was born dark hair. I don't, I wasn't born blonde. My sister and my mom are both blondes.

I was the dark duckling. No, so you're the brunette. Yes. I'm brunette, too, naturally. Like, almost like black hair. Like, it's so dark. And I'm very, very white. Like, I'm talking, like, I call myself see-through.

I know a see-through. Translucent. That's my husband. I tell him that. All the time, I'm like, you are Casper. Yeah, exactly. So I'm like, I just felt like I need to, I looked up to my mother and I wanted to be blonde like her and my sister.

Why can't I be like them? Yeah. So when I got around 18, I started to do highlights to my hair. And I remember, and never forget this gay guy was like, this is like a thousand years ago. He was like, oh, you. you're putting highlights in your hair. Oh, you're going to come up for more highlights next week. And then a week after.

And then I guarantee you, you'll be platinum next year. Did he lie? That bothered me. I was like, there's no way. I'm a brunette. I'm a true brunette. I will always have a little bit of highlights, but I will never be platinum. Oh, my God, was you right?

I did a little bit more highlights and a little bit more highlights, and then I was full blast blonde. And I will never forget that. I never went back. I started at 18, and I was, I haven't seen my real, real true hair since then. It's so hard to go back from being platinum blonde to dark. I have wrestled with it for years.

I tell her all the time, this is my manager, but she used to be my hairdresser. And I'm literally like, I want to be red. I want to go dark. And she's like, absolutely fucking not buy wigs. That's what I do now. I do. I buy wigs. I just put the wigs on.

When I do photos, just put the wigs on, just to get it out of my system, you know? Yeah, you have to. You're right. So I was very much like, okay, I want to fit this whole California vibe. I live in California. I'm sorry, I was from California. But what happened was my mom got sick. You know, she was on a soap opera at the time. She was actually wearing a teddy. Which soap opera was she on? I have to ask her. I thought the bold and beautiful. I have to tell. I get it confused now.

But she was wearing a teddy, she said, and then she collapsed, and then he raced her to the hospital. And then they said, you have two days to live. We, you know, said, okay, let's, at that time, we were like 10 years old. Right. We had to say her goodbyes. That's got to be so traumatic dealing with that at 10 years old, too, thinking that you're about to lose your best friend.

Well, we didn't understand. We're like, okay, this, I remember cry. It was a heat wave, too. and my sister and I were like in the bed naked because you know in air in California they don't have air conditioning like swamp coolers yeah you're like you're like you're like the air from the outside is cooling you off you're like I remember being so hot from the heat wave and just like tears would just come down like it was just like you can't get a grip you're like you're losing your mother that's it you don't have a mother for the rest of the way out and then what was your

relationship like with your father was he around yes so my dad he's amazing he he just wasn't near us he lived about three hours away to what's called victorville california spring valley lake kind of area and so you know for him to see us he'd have to drive like three hours so we still got to see him every other weekend but he was mr i try anything in the world you know he owned a bungee jump business from a hot air balloon type of guy. Oh, geez. Like he's wild crazy. Adrenaline junkie. Like he's like, he's been a stockbroker. He's built houses. He's, I mean, my dad is Jack of all trades, master of men. He's always gone to school to do something else and to do. He's always hopping around. Now he just retired just recently. I'm like, what are you going to do

with your life? Because like, my dad needs to do something. Or you're going to find the adrenaline from. Yeah. But he's like, my dad is like a natural stocky, like, muscular. guy. Is that where you get your muscular build from? Exactly. Exactly. My dad is, actually my mom has like really amazing like legs like calves and he does too and my mom

has this like little tiny bitty waist with like wide hips but like she just wants a little umf. She's like why can't I get a little umph in my hair? She just has the wide hips. So then so then my dad going back to my dad he has like all these tattoos

all over his body. He's like a Harley guy. Like, it's a funny story how his wife had bought him a Harley book for one of these Christmases, right? And, you know, she wasn't even looking at it like this, but he opened up this Harley book. And when he opened up the Harley book, he's on the cover. He's actually on his Harley. Dad's a model? Yeah, he didn't even know he was on the cover of a book. That is so funny. And his wife at the time didn't even realize it. But he was on his like cherry red Harley, like going down a mountain in full action.

And it was him. He was like the only one in the cover. I was like, okay, okay, Harley loves you. So he's Mr. Harley Davidson. He's a really cool. Both my parents are like really cool people. And that's why ICE gets along with them. Because you have to have a good mix with your family.

And both my parents are really, really, like, cool people. You know, and I feel like they're still young, too. I feel like you and I are really cool parents too, though. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I hope so. I feel, I say to Chanel, I'm so cool.

You don't even know how cool I am until you see other parents. She will. And she's like, tone it down, tone it down, tone it down. She won't allow me, speaking of toning it down, she won't allow me going to school with heels on. Oh, because she wants you to tone it down. She won't. She doesn't want me to, like, be that person.

So when I go to pick her up from school, I want to make sure I'm not like in a dress or I change out of my clothes for what I was doing. What kind of tennis shoes does Coco wear? Because I don't think I've ever seen you in a pair of tennis shoes. I'm actually, the funny, the funny story about me having a tennis shoe collection is I would take my dogs to the dog park. And I'd always be in hills at the dog park. Trying to walk in grass. Oh, yeah.

Just sinking. Well, that's the problem is I would always screw up my hills because I was at the dog park. And I was like, motherfucker, I'm, I ruin another pair of hills. I'm like, okay, I'm going to have to not ruin hails and kind of find some tennis shoes, some cute tennis shoes. I mean, I would wear tennis shoes to the gym, right? But then I was like, you know what? I'm going to get into this, like, cute tennis shoe vibe.

So I have, like, every color in the world. What kind do you wear? Like, is Nike's your thing? Like, Air Force ones. Oh, is it? Yeah, it's all about color. It's like, I mean, I have my. It doesn't matter the brand, just the color.

I got my high-end sneakers, right? To do that, whatever, it's Dulce or whatever, Loubaton. I got those sneakers for, like, cute sweaters and stuff. But, like, to the gym, I love my freaking sketchers. I love that. Believe it or not. Everybody's like, what? I'm like, they're the most comfiest, and they come in so many cute colors.

I adore them. And every time, I do have my Nike's, of course, like that, but it's more about taking my outfit and coordinating it all together. Where does your style come from? Because your style is iconic. I mean, I think your style has influenced a ton of women, especially in this industry, girls that are married to rappers or dating rappers or with rock stars. Like, you have your own style.

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like what i mean they look cute it looks cute on you know and i try to transcend a little bit of strip vibe to like a conservative vibe you can say and kind of mesh it together yeah and make it it's so funny because conservative and cocoa in the same in the same sentence i'm not sure if we know i know i know i know i know i know there's got to be another word for that but um i wear stripper heels on every red carpet every red carpet as like as like a as testament to stay true to myself okay you know so like every and under every gown that i wear on the red carpet i've got my I clear stripper heels on. Well, sometimes you need a little height in those long dresses too, you know, so I get that.

But yours is more of a. Just I want to still, like, I might be on the red carpet, but I'm still, you know, that girl. You know what's in right now. And I was like, I started that trend. And like, everybody just called me hooker and prostitute from it. But the see-through, anything see-through now. Like, they're wearing the see-through thing on red carpets. Yeah.

Dakota, Dakota Johnson just wore a freaking see-thru off it. Nobody called her a prostitute. Right. And I was doing that in the 2000s, and I was called names. And I'm like, oh, that's interesting how it's now a style.

I started that style a long time ago. I feel like anybody who has body, and I'm not, Dakota Johnson has a beautiful body. She just doesn't have like bodies like us, like the ass, the way, you know, like. So when you put it on you, it just looks.

a little bit like okay what are they trying to do right right like exaggeration yes yes yes yeah yeah that's totally the reason if you just kind of put it on body you know yeah right little boobs is a little bit well right like you know like model thin bodies look completely different in something that we would like wear right so yeah where have you always had that style though even growing up where you always like into like matching or yeah i was very okay so i remember um i would get my kids from from Target. Mm-hmm. Oh my God, Keds.

You're bringing it back. Keds. Keds from Target, you can get it for like $6. I remember I was like, when I was like 10 to like 14, I could go and get every color from Keds. I mean, blue, you know, fluorescent, yellow or whatever. And I remember having a collection of Keds. That was like my first collection of Hill, I mean, of just shoes in general.

And I would be very matchy, matchy. I'm talking, if I'm like right now, I'm wearing red and with red lipstick, I can't mix in max. I can't wear pink and red. Yeah, no, that would drive me crazy too. It's just like, blow my brains out. Like, I need it to all match. If the yellow has to match the yellow, it can't be off yellows. Like, it's very matchy, matchy.

Do you have a little bit of OCD? Oh, definitely. A lot of it. Actually, it's gotten worse. I've noticed as I've gotten older. I can't leave the house. without things being in order, because when I come back from wherever I am, it has to be like perfect, like model home vibe.

Like, I just walked in a model home and nothing. And it's kind of strange because people and dogs live in it. I get that too. Your clothes, though, and how you have to match and stuff, that's a form of OCD also. Everything is very, very, I mean, someone picks up, I'm picking up after them. And I don't tell them, do it. Like, I just do it. I just personally pick up.

after people. It feels better to you. It's like a release almost to be able to just know that if it's going to get cleaned, it's going to get cleaned the right way the first time. Oh yeah. And I don't mind it. And as a matter of fact, I clean my own house and I have cleaners that come like once a month because we have a lot of chrome and mirror in our house. So they basically come and they help me with all the shiny stuff in the house. And I like to pick up. Like I'll pick up before they come. Me too. Yep, same. I don't want to look like a mess. Yeah, I feel bad if they come in and the house is like looking like a fucking tornado ran through it.

Like they'll be like, who are these fucking people living here? I don't want to be judged by the people who are coming to clean up after us. Exactly. Exactly. I got mad one time that ice, I got out of bed. Ice was still in bed and I had to leave out of the house. And he had someone come to the house when I was gone. And he hadn't made the bed.

And I was like. It bothered me. Someone was in her bedroom and our bed was not made. I'm like the one time that I hadn't made the bed and someone comes in our room. Really? And you like think about it all day long. Like it really just. Yeah.

I make the bed every day. You have to. Because you have to kind of, it's like restarts the day and finishes the day. So I make it whether you see or not, it's made. Fluff the pillows, whatever. It's ready. And I can't get into a bed that's not made at my house. I feel, I feel so off.

It's like you have to just peel the covers. back, get back, you know, like, you just, I get what you're saying. I have a really gross story that, um, we were, we just walked into this hotel. We, um, just checked in and ICE was there to do a lecture, in the middle of nowhere, um, Midwest, uh, and we checked in and the first, guy was up like 24 hours. I like, I need, I need a nap. I need a nap. We just checked in, walked into the room, got into the bed.

And I don't know why even just like, just like, want to. to look over at the sheets. Oh, no. But I realized that it was just covered in like pubes. No. It was so disgusting that I was, first of all, I have OCD and I was like, no. Does someone deliberately get into this bed? That is a hell nir, okay? I'm not doing that. I was like, this is no fucking way. I was like, and they made the bed. That's the thing. The bed was freaking made. They didn't, they either didn't clear the sheets. from the night before, or that someone came in before us and they just only used it for the day. I don't know what it was. They just sprinkled the pubs on the pillow. But I was, I was like,

but it was so much of it. I'm like, how hairy was this person? Oh, God. I was so worried. I was like, I had a call down. I was like, someone needs to clean these sheets or like do something about this. And they're like, why? Is there a problem? And I had to tell him the whole thing. And I'm like, not trying to be bitchy, but I was like, this is nasty. That's not being bitchy. If anybody has a right to bitch, it's when there's pubes just overflowing in their bed. It's overflowing too, girl, I'm telling you. I'm not, I can't. Oh my God.

But I am very, very ridiculous when it comes to cleaning. I'm constantly cleaning after people. And it hasn't to the point where I go to bed at night thinking, I need to clean this. But when I first wake up, I need to make sure I clean this. Why am I thinking about cleaning? Where do you think that stems from? Everything has to be perfect. everything everything me my hair my nails everything my health my family everything in my life i feel like

has to be in order do you think that stems from when you were 10 years old and you got scared and thought you were going to lose your mom and so like that jarred something in you to be like okay i need to get healthy i need to make sure the house is clean i need to make sure this is perfect you know because you just that was like your way of dealing with it i was definitely uh even though I was a child, I was all, I felt like I was a mother too. You know, like I wanted my mom to be proud of me, but the same time, I wanted to take action and like, you know, help her, you know. And I know my sister wasn't going to do it. She was younger than me. And it was only her and I. So I was very much to take action. But I've always been wanting to be perfect in every way. And it's a

problem. It is definitely a problem in my head. I'm constantly battling myself like you don't need to feel this way. But it's somehow you get through life and it makes life better. It's gotten you to where you are. Exactly. Exactly. I understand that wholeheartedly. I hear about the Michael Jackson who they're Emily pushing and pushing him. Yeah, they were abusive. But they got him to where he was. He was push, push, push. I feel like that's kind of me. I'm like, I push myself into better, better, better. How do I make myself even more better, you know? And I mean, that's why you're literally sitting here today

because you are who you are. And I mean, I think that as long as it's not hurting your soul or hurting you in any way, if that OCD is fueling your fire, then, you know, lean into it and consider it a strength instead of a weakness. Yeah. Yeah. I like that, girl. Totally.

So I want to move along to your love. story because your love story is so freaking inspiring you and ice have been together 25 years well coming up 25 years so yeah that's insane yeah that is that is one of probably one of the longest lasting relationships in hollywood like you guys have stood the testament of time how have you guys done that and like take me on that journey first of all everybody always ask what's the secret what's the secret first of all you got to really love each other I mean, because, you know, that will bypass, you know, liking someone, loving someone, and then if you don't really love them, it'll just, like, you know, go into dead space, I guess, right?

But it is a good love story. It's, I think, because we're so much alike, you know, like we always say yin and yang, if you, if I was a guy, if I, so I'm a girl, of course, if I was a guy, I would be ice. I would be exactly, you know, be rough and tough. be the gangster guy, you know, with style, then he would be the opposite. You know, if he was a girl, he would be like me, you know, the outlandish, outgoing, you know, crazy chick, you know. So we complement each other because we're kind of like the same person, you know, and we know that.

And we also let each other shine. Yes, that is huge in relationships. Because a lot of people don't want the other person to shine, you know. And so I love when he shines, when he does his thing, you know, when he's having his moment, I love that. That's who he is. You know, there's a reason why he's a famous guy is because he does what he does. And then he lets me shine, you know.

And so when we walk into the room, we have the same energy. You know, he's not up here or I'm not down here. I'm not up here and he's down here. I feel like when some people feel like they don't. have the same energy and that throws each other off I guess you could say um they become jealous of one another and we're always on the same level we're just like you know we take it as it comes we're very very very fun people too you know we just want to like live life and have fun and also work really hard that's the thing is people see us out on red carpets do

doing our thing, having fun, but we also work really hard. Yeah. We actually work more than doing all those exciting things. You guys make hustle like easy. And there's a lot of hustling going along along the way. He's a big hustler. And I think that's another thing. I'm a big hustler too.

So I just know what it feels like to hustle. And we just let each other be. But our story actually just kind of came out of nowhere when, So I was 22. Let's go back to that. He was 22. Oh, I was 22. He was 44 at the time.

So I was almost 23. And I was then working in the Playboy world. So I was doing all the parties, you know, yes, hang out with Huff, all that stuff, all the girls. It was funny because at the time, there was like six girls, you know. And, you know, they want to say it, but they had some competition. You know, they were all budding for like the. best, you know, person to be. But, you know, I was around that whole genre. And that's what I was doing at the time. Now, ICE was doing a video, music video, for a movie that he had done. And so my agent

told me to come with my friend to this particular video. And we were playing models. So we were models on the set. Okay. So at the time, believe it or not, I didn't know who ICE he was. Didn't even know. I'm like, I heard his name, but didn't know who he was. I mean, he was, that was, that was before my time. His music was before my time. You know, I'm still a young thing, you know? A P-Y-T. Right? I'm like, from the valley. You know, I actually had a valley accent and everything. I've actually toned down, but I used to say like and oh my God. I still say, oh, my God, a lot. I say, dude, I say bro.

Because, you know, growing up in Vegas, it's a valley too. Totally, yeah. I've toned it down. Yeah. I've toned it because I realized I did a lot out here. Yeah. But so I'm just this white girl from the valley. I'm working on the set.

And the producer on the set apparently was trying to cheer eyes up at the time. So he grabbed me and he grabbed me right out of the bathroom stall. I just went to the bathroom. I didn't even have anything upright yet. And they grabbed me. He's like, I want to, I want to come with me. I want to introduce you to someone. So I didn't even know who I was being introduced to.

Do we know what he was upset about? He just didn't want to be there. Oh. He just, he had just started law and order. Okay. So he was from California. We're both from California, right? He just started law and order.

And, you know, it was just brand new. It was like he was in two years of it. He wasn't even a main character at that point. And so he had a full. fly all the way to California to do this for his friend. He didn't want to be there. So to chair him up, they grabbed me. And so I walked up behind him now. He was wearing a red snake skin suit. I saw that. And I fell in love. I didn't even see his face. She was like, I don't care. I just want that one. I just saw his suit and I like the suit. Because I'm a flamboyant chick. And I mean,

I was wearing like a silver sequin tube top at the time. So I was like shining. shiny ball at the moment. So I was like, okay, he turned around and he was also wearing a Pimp hat, which I have to add. He's got the Pimpat on. He turned around and he was smiling big. Now, we actually have a moment, the very first moment we met. Someone took a picture. Oh.

The very first moment. He turned around and smiled and that was the moment we met. So we actually, I posted online every now and then. So he turned around. and then I, and we, you know, say hi, da-da-da, and I walked off. Well, there were so many people around us when we met. He just had to regroup himself. He was like, what just happened?

Now, he says when I walked off, he was just, you know, looking at my face. He just saw my teeth right instantly because I was so close to him. But when I walked off, he realized I had a little bit more thickness, you know, than he anticipated. And he's like, he's like, wait, what just happened? I need to regroup myself. So he came back to me when no one's around, and he says, excuse me, I just came back. I wanted to say, hi, are you married? Can I flirt with you?

And I said, a respectful king. Very, yeah, he was just all about trying to get my attention. And he's like, have you ever considered dating a gangster rapper? Okay, now, first of all, take you back. I don't know the difference between rappers. They were all the same back then. I didn't know there was a difference. I was like, okay.

What a smooth line though. He's like, you never considered dating a gangster rapper? And I was like, well, if he's nice, and he's like, well, you take the end off nice, you get ice. Oh, geez. Look at it up. What a play. I was like, were you like, how did you know I was going to use that word? Nice, ice?

Like, how did you know? He's like, the God word. The gods gave me that word. I didn't even know that it was going to come to my head. I was like, that was actually pretty smooth. And from that moment, he was trying to, you know, when you're sitting on the set for many hours, he's trying to gather and keep my attention. So he starts doing like magic tricks with like quarters and stuff.

He turns into a little boy. Just trying to flirt. So just stay with me. So that was like the moment we met. And he left to go back to New York. and I went, actually, I was living at Arizona at the time, right next door to California. People don't know, right next door. And I was, I went to Arizona.

He had given me a two-way pager. Now, for people that don't know what a two-way pager is, I do. It is what you did with text. That's the very first texting. You texted like this little computer that opened up like a little flip. It was like a little computer. Yeah. And you just text now.

we that's how we dated we dated on that um because he was on the set most hours of the day and we couldn't talk on the phone so we dated for like two months through that little pager i feel like you get to know somebody pretty well when you have limited time to like you know be in their energy and you have you're just forced to kind of communicate like that way because you have to show personality and you have to you know like you have to dig deep to like keep somebody interested and then with the time And you can think about your words, you know, when you're out of that zone. You know, like you're kind of focused and preparing what you're going to say. So it was actually a really good way to date, to tell you the truth. And then he suggested coming out to New York and I'm, and pretty much I came to New York and the rest is history. I remember I came back with a suitcase, right? and I came to New York and I had to leave

kind of suddenly had to go back and I was like, I'll be back and he's like, oh, that's a famous word. Girls never come back. No, he didn't want you to leave. He doesn't. Yeah, right, right. But I said, no, I'll leave my suitcase here because girls are going to come back for their shit.

Yeah. I'll leave my suitcase here to know that I'll be back because I want him, because that was more of a sentimental moment there. Like, I'm going to leave this behind. So I'll be back. Don't worry. And sure enough, I was back. But I was, I feel like there was such a deep connection with one another. It's like, it's more than soulmates. It's like we're new, we know we're here for each other. Twin flames. Yeah, twin flames. Yes, yes. And I feel like that's,

we're, we're meant to be. It's just meant to be. And here we are almost 25 years. 25 years is insane. Getting with him at such a young age, did you, have to go, because I know he's a little bit older than you, did you have to like kind of sew your wild oats while you were with him? Yeah. Like did you go? Because I've heard you say before in other interviews, like you've done drugs and stuff like that. Did you have to go through that while you were with him? And did he allow you? Yeah. Well, I was trying to get him open. Like I was like, believe it or not, he was a conservative one. And I was like, I was the wild one like, okay, because you have to go back into the era I was in. Right. Of course.

And there's nothing, there's no shame in your past. It made you who you are. Nothing. And I don't feel shamed at all. It's just kind of weird that everybody is like, oh, I would never do that. I'm like, but you didn't live in my time. Yeah, well, good. You're not me, so fuck off.

Yeah. So I was, you know, very much a party girl. And I was just loved having fun. You know, I had. Before ice or when you got with them? Okay, gotcha. Before ice, because I lived in that world. I was in the playboy world.

I grew up pretty much in the 90s. Everybody, it was like nothing. People were doing drugs, so it was like everybody was doing it. Oh, I started experimenting at 15, 16, so. But it wasn't a weird thing. Now they make you feel weird about it. Everybody kind of was doing it. And, you know, I got with ice, and he was very straight-laced, believe it or not.

Yeah, still is. I'm trying to always get him to do stuff. I think that's so funny because he's like this big gangster rapper, so you think he would be down for anything. But I guess growing up in the streets, it makes you a little more guarded. He's very much like, has to be. to be in control, like, has to make sure things, you know, if we go out to a club. Sounds like somebody else I know. That's true, actually.

But more in a club, but he wants to make sure things are right, because things can jump off in the club. Oh, absolutely. You know, things can go haywire. My husband won't even step foot in him because he gets. They are, because people, I've noticed about, with ice, guys like to push his buttons. He like, they like it because they want him to get mad. And I noticed that when you go to the club scene,

they're more so to do it. Oh, yeah. Because alcohol's flowing. Yeah. Yeah. So he was never into wanting to get drunk or do anything because he wanted to be on point just in case something went down. Right.

Meantime, I'm all over the place. I'm the girl dancing on the tables, you know. But I love that he let you be. And I love that he kind of let you figure out the woman that you are in all phases. And he still does. He just lets me be, you know, I'm still kind of a wild one, but, like, toned down in a good way, I feel like, you know, I'm very much, everybody always wants to go out with me because I'm very much the life of the party, you know, I'm always trying to get everybody to have fun. Like, I don't want you to be in my group and not have fun. I would not want you to just sit there. Right. And be grouchy. Yeah. You know, so I'm always the one like, hey, I have shots everywhere. Let's do it. And then he's sitting back, cool.

just letting me do just proud of you he's just watching proud of you he's like my little guardian angel so yes but he lets me do what he says he never wants to stop the party

he says but I mean now it's a completely different vibe now we hardly go out we have to stay home I have school nights like you know I'm sure he loves that too I think so too so like now he wants me

to get in cute little things at home I mean I like so I walk around Kul and things Chanel's like She's like Why does daddy like you to wear that He's like he loves booty shorts

Okay what do you want me to do Like he loves booty shorts I like wearing too But like I don't know It is kind of hard When it gets cold out Yeah

Yeah Coco's like I'm trying to wear Booty shorts and a trench coat I know No I'm just trying to make it happen That's the thing is with ice He works hard at what he does

he is he's Mr. Hustler he's doing it all and if he wants a little booty shorts in his life when he gets home why not I think that's amazing and that's a good wife I'm trying yeah I'm trying to fulfill my wifely duties and my wifely duties is wear booty shorts I think he's lucky to have somebody who feels like that I'm the same way with my husband if what daddy wants daddy gets yeah yeah period you know I could need his um if you I put my cell phone right now his name that pops up is Big Daddy. Aw, I love that. I call him Big Daddy.

Because that's what Chanel. Chanel calls him Big Daddy. So I'll say Big Daddy and I'll say that weird times. And so Chanel gets so embarrassed now. I was like, okay, Big Dad, hey Big Daddy. She goes, like so embarrassed. But yeah, it's more of like now it's a joke between us. No.

Yeah. I love that. Do you ever feel like people underestimate your role in ICE's success? because behind every successful man is a woman who's got his back, I believe. I definitely, I definitely. ICE has a place. Ice has a place. He has a place. He is a man place.

You know, he goes, he does his job, works hard, works hard for his money. And I feel like my place is keep the house right. That is what I manage. I manage the house. I keep it right. I keep everything sane because when he comes out from the streets into the house, home, he can now relax. So I feel like we have an old-fashioned type of love, an old-fashioned relationship. You wouldn't see us having an old-fashioned relationship, but we know each other's

places. Nowadays, I feel like women must be independent, like independent, independent, independent, I don't need a man, I don't need a man, I don't, okay, well, if you use that, you're never going to get a man. if you ever say that because men they want a woman to be submissive and i know probably get a lot of hate from that but i preach this on my podcast all the time i'm like i'm i'm i'm i'm very very a power power woman right you can be independent and still be submissive for a person that you love out of love and that's what i do with ice i'm very submissive you know i just bring it down for him a man wants to be a man. Yes.

Why can't a woman be a woman? There's a reason why the world goes round. And I just, I've always been on that. And I feel like that has to do a lot with our relationship. That's why it's lasted because we know our identities. We know what we should do here. Now, that's why these, I hear so many women ask me, I have so many emails of women. Why don't want to have this?

What do I need to do? What do I need to do? I'm like, stop being trying to be such a boss. Yeah. bring it down. You could be a boss in your world, but bring it down a little bit. You know, men got to feel like they're protectors. Yes. You know, they're protectors. And they also want to, I don't want to use the word damsel and distress,

but they want to feel like they're taking care of business. Like they're able to be a man. Right. You have to let a man be a man. Taking care of business. That's right. Right. And then they get lost. And I feel like there are a lot of these relationships. they're getting twisted now and they don't know what to do. But I think if you just stick with the regular program, how it's always worked for thousands of years,

then it's not, it won't be a problem. Preach it, sister. I say that all the time. One of the biggest fights that my husband and I had when we first got together because I came in so headstrong and was like, I'm independent, I can do this, I don't need you, blah, blah, blah. He said to me one day, he said, Bunny, I am outside slaying dragons all day long.

He said, I don't want to come into my house and have to slay. I was just like that resonated with me so much and ever since then I have made sure you can ask them if when daddy comes home it is peaceful it is everything that he needs and we have we don't have any discourse in the house because he's out working hard I'm out working hard and when we come home we just want to enjoy each other and enjoy the moment and not have any drama or arguing or fighting or egos like check that shit at the door yeah you know it's true yeah you don't need to do it in front of each other no not at all it should be be a safe place when you walk in the door. As a matter of fact, I love going to the spa and at the

water sounds and the chill music that I made my home that way. If you walk in my house, you hear Pandora, chill the chill vibe. You hear water fountains. Like, I want that fill. You know, when you come into my house, you're going to feel great energy. Yeah. And I just want that to be a known fact that you'll be okay at home. Leaving out the door, maybe not. Like, you're leaving out the door. But when you come in the home, I'm the manager of this house. And you'll be okay. Your home is your sanctuary. So I'm going to wrap this up and I want to ask you a couple of rapid fire questions if that's okay with you. Okay. Well, I think my brain, my brain is slower than you think. No, you got this. Sister. You're so smart. I've been sitting here talking to you for an

hour and a half. All right. What's the most extra thing you've ever done just to look good? I mean, I've spent thousands of dollars on tanning salons um um i's botox starting at 27 i love botox same i will same but i think i had botox in like a year because of peptides by the way which i want to talk to you about that before you leave yeah i feel like that's kind of taken over um god what have i to look good i think you answered it tanning and botox and all that stuff i get because i was thinking the other day I should have wrote down how much I've spent as like a tanning membership since I was like 18. You can put one in your house. That's what I did.

I bought a spray tan machine and put it in my house. Well, I bought a tanning machine. Yeah. Actually, but I don't use it there for some reason. Probably because you like to get out of the house. I think that's it. I think that. It's like you're like, yeah, it's like you escape.

All right. What's more powerful? Cleavage or eye contact? Actually, eye contact. Mm-hmm. Because you can like stare into somebody's soul. And sometimes that's. why I don't like to wear sunglasses. I'll wear it on top of my head as a fashion statement. But

yes, I think once they see my eyes, I'm like, I'm telling a lot. Yeah, I love that. You know what's going on? Yes. If someone handed you the ox cord right now, what's the first song you'd play? Oh, anything 80s. I love 80s music too. Anything. I listen to it all day. I turn on my, Alexa, turn on 80s music. Yep, I love it. I love 80s. It just brings me back. It's just a good, it's a good time when there was great fucking music. Yes. Bring it back. I love it.

They need to bring 80s back, actually. No, for real. What's the most outrageous rumor you've ever heard about yourself? Outrageous rumor. I mean, I think I talked about this a long time that everybody thought I had a implant in my butt. Yeah. That's all natural, right?

It's all natural. And the thing is, I had to go and actually do an ultrasound to prove it because I thought that was kind of crazy. I was like, you have to see, because I have implants. I have implants and I've changed them out thousand times. I'm an open book here. But your ass is so perfect that people think that it's fake. Well, you know what?

If you get your waist small, the smaller you get your waist, the more ass will look big. Yeah. But I have, if you look at my parents, they have really, really good genes and they're naturally muscular. So I have the ability to go to the gym and actually, like I tell I, give me some mac, mac and cheese and mashed potatoes that helps is that's my mixture that the concoction to get that ass yes that's my concoction all right ladies mashed potatoes and mashed potatoes and um yeah there's like some there's these squats that i do and they're really really hard but you have to get them really

high and you get that certain i mean it's like that shelf shelf on the top and um i may that's why people like see me sometimes i'm like smaller than i am sometimes i'm bigger i fluctuate because you're a woman sometimes in the gym you could tell my muscles down then when i go to the gym i have muscle i go back and forth back and forth and that's why you know i don't have implants because i go up and down implants you would say the same the whole time yeah and they would they would be like hard and like i've seen them they look like baseballs and not jiggly yeah i just i would feel like you wouldn't be able to sit long because i can't like just to lay on my chest at night it hurts sometimes so how would you do that with an implant i just think that's interesting to me but yeah i would have to

somebody who has them because I I've seen a couple of my girlfriends who have had it done and they just look so painful not that we're hating on people who have implants in their houses because it's very interesting though right very yes oh when I'm around someone I was like can I touch yeah oh always always when I used to have implants too and I mine were pretty big like yours I had an ex-plant done in 2019 laying on my back sometimes like any position like and I couldn't imagine you took your implants out I took them out in 2019 yep all out that's amazing yeah feel so free Oh yeah, it's amazing. It was the best thing I ever did. Do I miss the fake boob cleavage? Absolutely. But at the same time. But it looks so good though. Thank you. You look like you have something, though, already. I appreciate that. You know, women don't realize how resilient our bodies are. And if you get your boobs, your implants taken out, if you give yourself a year, your boobs will fluff back up the majority of the time. Not all the time. What if you had them for, you know, a thousand years? I had mine for 13, 14 years. And I took a out? Hmm. I've had my, I've had mine, my first one to 18. Yeah. I've changed them out several times.

I got bigger, bigger. They look great. I actually were, I was actually bigger. I actually reduced them. Believe it or not. How big are they now? If you, um, they're double Ds. Okay. Double Ds. Okay. So what were before? Because these, these are, they were, they were like, like, they were up here. They were so high. Oh, so you had them. They were so high. And then I just brought them down. Uh, just several, before breastfeeding. I actually had an accident on Peep Show. There's a moment on stage where the girls in a blackout,

when the stage goes blacked out, all the dancers run in complete blackness, but they know the spots where to run to. Well, apparently I was off just a smidge and I ran right into the Wonderwall. It's like the corner of the LED screen. Oh, no. And I ran right in the middle of it,

and I went backwards and I actually passed out during the show behind the show and it was a corner from here all the way down down my boob

all the way was a bruise Oh no Corner bruised When I woke up I didn't realize I did it I grabbed my boob something had happened to my boo No

I was like and I looked down because it was in the middle of show. I was like, oh, my God, it's still here. It's still. Oh, my God. What happened? I was asking everybody because I didn't know how long I was out. And I got it together, went right back on stage. Like, nothing happened. You're a soldier. And two years later, I started seeing that my breast was moving. And I was like, I know I did something on that stage. I know I did something. But I was trying to hold out. I didn't want to change my implants because I knew I wanted to have a child. And I didn't have

to change my plant and then have a child and change them out again. So I was trying to hold out and then I says like you should probably go get that checked. And so I did. I went to the doctor. Sure enough, I had a ruptured implant. Oh no. But one thing with silicone is it stays in the pocket. So it's not, it wasn't leaking into the body. It was saved the pocket. That was my next question if any of it leaked out. It just stays there. When you have a pocket stays there. So when he when he, when he told me he's like, yeah, it was ruptured and he changed it. And then I was, then I got pregnant that month. I got some new, nice set of boots and I got pregnant.

And then I breastfed for six years. So just a touch base, because I know we, we glazed over it really quick. And then I'll let you go because I know we could sit here and talk for hours, literally. Are you still breastfeeding, Chanel, or did you guys finally wean off? Or is that something that you guys still do? So the whole concept of the breastfeeding thing, it wasn't like I would, was feeding her because she needed a meal right she was able to eat you know by a year you know full like solids it was more of a bonding experience and the more of like okay I'll give you the milk

but it was more like she wanted to be around me so I was like I'm going to let her stop when she wants to stop she's not going to be 16 on my boo right like she's going to eventually figure out okay this is kind of strange or weird and stop and that happened around six. So that was around six, which was still extremely a long amount of time, apparently. But in Europe, they're doing until seven. Like, it's nothing to them. I mean, Americans think that's weird, but.

I don't think there's really anything wrong with it as long as, you know, it's just, it's your home, you know, so it's whatever you guys are doing. And it's, she's not feeling weird about it. You're not feeling weird. It's not a weird thing. I think us as a world, we sexualize everything. And it's not. Like, it's innocent.

it's mother-daughter and it was mostly when she went to sleep she wanted me to be there so it was more of like a comfort a comfort thing with her but i got so many people that loved it like they were on my side i had everybody come out of the woodwork when it comes to breastfeeding ladies they were like so on my side and i was like oh this is so nice because it was i was the only one speaking about it yeah and i'm like why is it so hard like people have been doing this for thousands of years because the world shames everybody for everything. Like, it's not a big thing. It's the boob.

Come on. So to this day, though, she's obsessed with boobs. Oh, I bet. She loves boobs. I think she's, like, she's always very comforted. She's, like, his pillows and stuff like that. So she's, like, always sitting there laying on me. And then it's just a really nice moment because it's like, it's not going to be like this

when they get into the teenage ears, you know. Yeah. I'm, like, loving every moment. I can with Chanel. Just eat it up. You're a great mom. You're a great mom, you're a great wife, you are an icon, and please don't ever let anything these motherfuckers say online ever get to you, because you know who you are, you know your legacy

that you've built, and you have literally stood the test of time for decades and stayed relevant, and that is almost impossible to do in this world today. So just always know that you are that girl. Oh, thank you. It's been hard because it's almost like people want me to transition on my Instagram. You know, I'm very much, you can see me. I love my mother's side. And everybody wants me to transition into something.

Like, what do you want me to transition? I'm going to stay true to who I am. You know, whatever. I'm going to be a great mother, but a sexy great mother. Yeah. It's like, why do I have to get a moo-moo or something? I don't know why you can't be sexy and be a mom. Like, this is such a weird thing that people in the freaking internet world have, like, come

up with. And it's like, I get that maybe it makes some people uncomfortable. because their moms weren't sexy or maybe they didn't grow up in the same lifestyles that we have, but you can still be hot and still be a great mother. Right. It's true. The truth.

And I feel like I'm showing confidence in the house with Shadelle or anybody that's in my family. I'm trying to even teach my nieces too because they're going through an odd stage like teenage life and I'm like I was always very confident of who I am. and for some reason, when you have confidence, you're able to get further because you're not hiding in the shadows.

So I'm trying to teach that confidence. So there's something to it, you know. Okay, overconfidence, I get it. But there's only one cocoa. Yeah, exactly, baby. There's only one cocoa. I'm not going to tone down now. Why would I tone down now?

Turn down for what, motherfuckers, right? I know. I'm like 46 years old. It'd be like, it's on 90, 100, 100. baby keep doing you thank you keep doing you you look beautiful you are a beautiful soul your energy is so pure i wish that people could actually like sit with you like i have for the past two hours and get to just talk to you and feel your your essence they would totally understand you i can't believe we made this happen i know we finally made it i know i'm so happy when you came

to me and then i was like oh i have to like what's going on i have to get into this what's i'm like yeah i'll come to do your podcast but uh i don't know how many get to it because you know being a mother it's you can't get away absolutely no thank you for making time today i really appreciate it no thank you for having me this is an honor thank you for coming to me oh of course absolutely and you're a you're a hot-ass babe too oh i appreciate you i love you i love the fact that when you came to me i was like okay let me look into this buddy chick oh let's see what's going on over there i'm like okay i get it i get it she's very similar to me actually no the similarities are crazy. I didn't want to keep comparing, but like, even how, like, Ice lets you just be

yourself. My husband is 100% that person. I saw a video or an interview where ICE was like, they were asking him, don't you hate that your wife takes sexy pictures? And he's like, I take the picture. My husband has literally said in interviews, if you marry a show pony, you don't keep it in the fricking stall, you know? Or like, if you marry a sports car, you don't keep it in the garage. That's ice. Like, you know, that's my husband. We got to get them together. They will get along so well. I know. I know. I think they would too. I think they would have a lot similarities also. Yeah. Maybe one of these times when we're out here, we can all go to dinner or something.

Well, we're here. New York. Yes. All right. Tell everybody where they can see you or where they can find you online if they aren't already following you. Yeah. So Instagram is Coco. Facebook is Coco.

I got on X. I think it's just Coco's world. Yeah. Because that's, I never changed that up. And, oh, only fans, I guess. Yeah, shut it out, baby. Shout it out. What?

It's just Coco over there, right? You can't, there's no number or anything. yeah, Coco, I think I'm just Coco on everything. Listen, if you guys don't know who Coco is, you've been living under a rock. Yes, yes. But yeah, follow me on Instagram because I feel like nowadays it's almost like they, I, like, I looked at my Instagram page and it was like in this month, there's 30 million views. It says a lot.

So they'll look at me from a distance, but they won't follow me. It's very funny. I mean, I have three million people, but it's very interesting. I'm like, well, why won't you? If you're very interested in me, then follow me, you know? Get to know me, you know? And I try to write back to people, too, on Instagram. I mean, I can't spend it all day writing back, but first time I post, I'll try to

write back to, like, questions right away, but then that will fade out because it just is too much. But I try to write back. There was a time on my Coco's World, I'd say, really fast. All the emails that came through, I replied to every single one. of them. Now it's too many, but I would, yeah, I just try to make everybody feel comfortable, including women. I want women to know that I'm like a real person. And I'm like, I say, someone said you're like a best friend. I'm like everybody's, I'm America's best friend.

There you go. You know, if you need my assistance, if you need some help, I'm there as your guide. I think young women need a woman like you to look up to. So I think that that's really awesome that you're so giving with your time when you really don't have to be. I mean, just to even sit there and DM people to just always exude positivity, just to always try to teach women. Like, hey, you can be confident, beautiful, a mom. Like, everything that you do is just, you don't have to do it and you still do it. So I try to go on my way. There's, there's, yes. Everybody always says that. I'm like, nope, I'll do this still the day I die. I got to make sure everybody's right. I want everybody to be happy with me. Well, we all love you, Coco.

Thank you. And please, like I said, don't listen to the bullshit online. Because the people that they're your tribe that loves you, loves you, and the other motherfuckers, their opinions don't matter. True. True. That's why I'm blindsided on those people. Do like you do Chanel. Don't read the comments. I know. Don't read the comments. I try to like just answer the questions and not read the quorum. I know that's kind of hard to say. But hey, you know what. And if they get to me, it doesn't bother me. Yeah. Because I know that it's pissing you off in some type of way that actually you have to. say something take the time and say something yeah okay well then your life needs to move on like yeah now obviously you're not happy with your life if you're already leaving comments like that to somebody that you've never even met exactly you better come back and visit me cocoa i will i will thank you for coming to me i appreciate it appreciate you and thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of dumb blonde i'll see you guys next week bye Thank you.