Dumb Blonde - Throwback Thursday: Christen & Whitney - Holy Sh*t

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

Buckle up baby, because it's a wild one as Bunnie welcomes two of TikTok's biggest "it girls", Christen Whitman and Whitney Wren. These two beauties break down ALL the drama that every snark page can dream up, from friendships to breakups to hamsters, hygiene and what really happened on IG Live. Christen talks about Konnor, Rocky, and Bunnie shares some receipts of her own, while Whitney shares her love of a good ole cowboy. Christen and Whitney also talk about their own friendship dynamic, what's next for them both in 2023, how they handle such hate, and whether or not they've hooked up with each other.Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comChristen Whitman: TikTok | IG Whitney Wren: TikTok | IG Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today I have two of TikToks. I don't know, do I dare call you guys the villains of TikTok or what would be a good word to describe you guys, Kristen and Whitney. I think villain is a great thing. My dog's name is villain. There's nothing wrong with being a villain. Oh, no. I find absolutely other all that, but really I don't think you guys are villains. I think literally did, did you guys ever watch the Hills? Okay.

I've never seen it. You guys have. Okay. So already off to a bad start. One. No, not at all. I think see to me, I'm in my villain era always. So I don't think there's anything wrong with being a villain. You can, you can be a villain with a hero's heart. That doesn't mean anything, you know, being called a villain, but I think you guys, um, are really misunderstood, but there's a show called the Hills, which you guys, if you ever have time to watch it, need to sit down and watch it, and people were fucking obsessed with these kids. I'm talking like new everything about their lives,

and I feel like that's how you guys are. Like I literally- Every movement, every action, everything that we do, somebody's watching. Yeah. It's scary. It's insane. So when I say villain, I don't think it's a bad thing You know, I think it's like you guys are people are so fucking

Fascinated by you guys like it's just insanity. Yeah, how are you guys? Welcome to the dumb blown podcast We're excited. I'm excited. I'm nervous, but I mean down down those down those trulies and you'll be good If I get a lazy, I just mind your business What are you guys doing in Nashville? I made a song yesterday. Yay, with who? I don't know, it's awesome. Dustin Costello.

Costello. Costello. Yay, so you singing with? Yeah, actually I'm like always nervous to sing in front of people, so I mean, she's helped me. But like on stage, I think that it would take a lot well I mean if that's really proud of you yeah but it's practice makes perfect too so you know like you'll be nervous now and then it'll be like fucking second hat to you you know once you start

really doing it that's awesome I'm proud of you that's true karaoke when I'm you know shots listen I love still amazing okay so what are you guys doing out here you guys are staying at Caden's house, I love Caden Yeah, isn't he a doll face? Who else is there is he living here? Yeah, he's living here now. It's Tyler Caden Jaden creesh Creesh, it's like back and forth. It's the whole squad. Gotcha. We had so much fun last night. We literally all got into a circle and played the most obnoxious music and just screaming into the microphone, dancing.

We were doing splits. Seriously, I was doing tricks I don't even know I could do. It was amazing. She said I was busting it wide open. So take me, okay, where did you grow up, Kristen? We're gonna bounce back and forth from you guys. So Kristen, where did you grow up? Where are We're gonna bounce back and forth from you guys. So, Kristen, where did you grow up? Where are you from?

So, I kinda moved all over. Most of my life was spent in Michigan from like 10 years old till I was 20. I was born in Colorado. My dad was in the military, so I moved around everywhere. But yeah, most of my life was spent in Michigan, and then I decided to move to Florida when I got a little older and met her.

Aw, are you close with your parents? I'm very close with my parents now. I wasn't when I was growing up in high school. Yeah, I don't think anybody is. No, I was so strict. Yeah. Yeah, you were like, yeah. You're like, no mom, no dad.

But now it's like as you're older, you're like, okay. My mom's my best friend, yeah. Aw, I love that. So mom and dad are still together. Yep. Awesome, I love that. What about you, Whit? I grew up you guys. Oh, I love that. So mom and dad are still together. Yep. Awesome. I love that. What about you, Whit? I grew up in St. Pete, Tampa.

OK. All my whole life. I've always been there. Yay. I love Florida. I know. Florida's amazing. I don't know if I could live there during the summertime,

though, because, motherfucker. It's hot. The humidity. It's like 105. And the humidity is like 112. It's fucking just disgusting, dude. Every time I go there, I'm like swamp us. I can't fucking do it.

Swamp bath. I have some serious swamp baths up in there. Seriously. I can't do it like legit. So where did you go to high school, Kristin? I went to Lakeshore High School, which is in a small town in Michigan. Can I say the towns? Yeah, of course.

I mean, everybody seems to know everything about you. So I don't think this is a surprise. Not at all. Addresses, moms, birthdays, sisters, dads, cousins. I mean everybody seems to know everything about you. I don't think this is a surprise Mom's birthday sister's dad's cousin's Social Security card came out since No, but I went to a small it wasn't that small I graduated maybe like 300 kids. Okay, I could be so balling I don't know It was in a town called Stevensville And I started going to school there since fifth grade

So like I said most of my life was spent in Michigan where my dad's side, all the family's there. Awesome. And everything so. What about you, what? I went to Seminole, actually I went to three different high schools. So I started out at a Christian school my whole life

until ninth grade and then I left. Went to public school which is like 3000, 4000 kids and then went back to a Christian school and then I got kicked out, went back to Seminole. Oh, I went to Christian school too. It's very hard when you're a rebellious child. So it's kinda like now, everybody knows what you're doing,

it's 24 hour rule, basically. You can't do anything without people around. And people are very judgmental. Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's why I left. Well, left, I got removed in 11th grade. What'd you get removed for? I actually dated a girl for two years

and they found out and they were not happy with it. Are you lesbian or are you like both? I'm bi. I would say more towards men. Just, I had a really bad experience with a girl and she was very insecure and I mean we both grew together but it was like really hard because we both were young and we were like one of the first girls, I mean,

I would say around that came out and a lot of people looked up to us and it was hard but. Yeah, especially because the older adults were probably a lot really judgmental. Oh yeah, my family did not. Oh, so your family. My mom was supportive, it was just more pushing

towards not, but. Is your mom extremely religious? How's your relationship with your parents? Yeah, I'm really, really close to my parents. I have a stepdad, he's really, he's amazing. But my dad passed away when I was 12. But I'm really close to my mom now, like very close. I'm sorry to hear that, My mom just passed away last week,

so I couldn't imagine going through that at 12. That would suck. I'm sorry. No, it's okay, I'm good. It's really hard. Yeah, I know it sucks. Especially, I mean like nowadays, like society and like boys,

they don't know how to treat women. Oh, at all. So it's hard to grow up without a dad to show you how you should be treated. Totally, I feel for you guys having to date in this era. Because I thought boys, men, whatever you want to call them, were fuckboys when I was growing up. You guys are like in the microwave era

where everything's replaceable. Everybody wants everything right now. Social media. Everybody looks up to this like, I mean, someone could be prettier, nicer, funnier, have more money, have more followers. There's always more options. They'll never know what they have. They just constantly want to look for more. Yeah. No, have more followers. There's always more options. They'll never know what they have.

They just constantly wanna look for more. Yeah, no, it's crazy. I mean, girls do it too, but it's harder for us. Do you have people who try to date you guys for your social media presence? But we can tell who, you can tell. How do you tell, what are the signs? Okay, so constantly, I didn't know

this until I recently went through it, but constantly posting you talking, everything's on social media. I'm guilty of it. I'm guilty of blasting my life on social media, but I feel like the DMs, the messages, the public snapchats, all that type of stuff where they can get females in any situation and they're gonna constantly compare you to them or constantly rub it in your face that they can get better or whatever the case is so you never feel like good enough for them because There's constantly more prettier better-looking all that type of stuff. It's just it's a battle. It really is Have to go through that yeah, have you guys ever dated somebody for their social media presence? I've only had one boyfriend, so no.

I try to date people that don't have any clout. My first relationship with the girl was, I've had followers since I was 16, 17, so I know what it is, and then when I met her, I went through the exact same thing. And it's team Whitney, team my ex, and it was so hard because. Was it on social media?

Yes, it was all over. I was Twitter famous. Okay, so I just wanna clarify, and I've said this to you guys off camera, and I'm gonna say it on camera, I'm a grown woman, I don't have time to follow you guys' drama, but of course you guys come in on the podcast,

I had tons of people saying, well, you need to ask her about this, you need to ask her about that. I genuinely brought you guys on this podcast because one, I had tons of people saying, well, you need to ask her about this. You need to ask her about that. I genuinely brought you guys on this podcast because one, I love little boss babies. And I think you guys, and I say that with love because I'm 42 years old, you know? And I just see you guys coming up

and I'm just like, this is so fucking cool. Whitney, you're beautiful. Kristin, you're beautiful, you know? And I think it's really cool that you guys are building these brands. And I think last time I said that, somebody was like, what brands are they building? I'm like, themselves. Like the fact that you guys are building these brands and I think last time I said that somebody was like what brands are they building? I'm like themselves. Like the fact that you guys are a household fucking name. The fact that you have a website and a frenzy with tens and thousands of people

on there just dissecting your lives. That's a fucking brand. Paragraphs. I'm talking somebody could write an entire book and we've never like the stuff that we read on there we're like yeah it's news to me I never even heard it. It's crazy. They're saying that I don't even know if you're obvious in there, but they're saying that We we had people signing NDAs to hang out with us and like all this time I have bitches sign NDAs to hook up with my husband and I so there's nothing wrong with that I love that Actually should but like yeah, But like for us, but they

look at it, they pick apart and put it in such a negative way. Even if we did have people sending NDAs or consents or anything like that. But it's in a negative way because they're like, oh, well they think they're all that. They think they're famous. And we don't think we're famous, but we definitely know we have a name. I have a page of 23,000 people that completely shit on me. I know I'm known. So I know that I have things to worry about and protect myself with if something were to happen. Well, let's move the conversation over to that since we're on it right now.

How does that make you guys feel to know that these people are literally tearing you apart and just saying the meanest things? Lying outright, because they've done it to me, too. They will just chop up shit and just fucking make it a sentence that I didn't say and fucking say that I said it Like that's got you guys are babies. You know, like you're when I was 21. I was like fucking Lindsay Lohan I was snorting fucking eight balls of cocaine off strippers asses I was fucking robbing motherfuckers for their money. Like I was doing crazy shit

So if I would have been on social media, just would have been lit with my name, too you know, and that's why I look at you guys and I'm just like, you guys are fucking kids. Like all these people that are fucking talking shit about you guys, what were they doing at 21? Fucking sitting in church with their hands in their lap being good? Like it's just crazy.

And it's almost like you guys can't make a mistake. So how does that make you guys feel? I should just had a conversation about this. Sometimes we literally just do stuff on purpose for them to post it on there Like like a really to drink. Yeah, that's definitely for it. Yeah, I tag an eyes it but no and We're just talking about it the other day. Go ahead. It's understandable Yeah, because I mean we we don't really feed into it But it's just like if they're gonna be judging everything I do might as well

I mean, I don't know we just just, we're like rock hard now at this point, like I've had A to B to homosexuals, like homophobics, all that through now to being like fat shamed and like all that. It's just like- You guys are tiny. It's just- Oh, I'm being fat shamed. I mean, people think I'm pregnant. People think I'm just fat. It's to the point where it's just like-

I'm gaining weight, but like, mean genuinely I was not even a year ago I was 92 pounds. I was like that was like a few months ago But you know that that website is a reflection of how those people feel inside Yeah, you guys are everything that they want to so now we at this point We just kind of laugh it like not laugh it off, but it's just like what else we know that we know the truth We know how we are in person. We know that we're awesome people. Everybody that's actually met us, they say the same thing. And if they don't, it's because they're either jealous

or they don't want anything to do with us or they want other people to view us a different way. But it's gotta be hurtful, some of the shit you guys read. I see stuff. We'll repeat it, we'll read it and we'll repeat it a few times in our heads and we'll laugh about it and say like a comeback or like say something like well I don't know why they would even think that or blah blah

but then we kind of just like talk each other out of it and then we're really good that because they do it to us equally and We we want to laugh at our personalities are just so like laughing about everything make jokes everything I mean very easygoing, but it does get to us because I mean imagine 23,000 people going on there and then just saying, oh well the thing now is for me that my pussy stinks. I constantly use Monistat, I got yeast infections out of the ass, I'm just fat now and all this type of stuff.

It's like, but like certain boys started that as well, so like it doesn't help when people. It's literally like a burn book, an online burn book. It is, it's sad. And and I would wish nothing I would wish no one else to go through it I'm glad mean when you're the ones that get it because we really can laugh it off and be really positive about it we were talking about how like if we were in this situation in the past or like how she was before like we wouldn't have been able to get through it you know I mean yeah and it's sad

because these people don't realize that one thing, two things that you guys say could make us not be here anymore. And it sucks. It's really sad. No, that is terrible. I've been in that position, whether anyone believes it or not, but I've been in the position where I have tried to take my own life because I was bullied really bad

in high school, but nothing will compare to how I'm being bullied now. But I think because I started social media a while ago, it's helped me build that. So I don't feel that way anymore. I mean, I have been depressed because of it. Right. Let's rewind really quick.

So you got on the internet at 16, and you did too? Yeah, it was like right when I finished my senior year. So not 16, but probably around 18 years old. Yeah. 18, 19. And you too, Whitney? Yeah, I was like, it was my senior year. Yeah.

OK. And then you guys just had a following and started growing your brand or whatever online. OK, so this is like not new. Well, I mean, you guys, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, five years. I have to count with my fingers because I am the worst at fucking math. I pretty much failed math in high school, so it's all right. I can to count with my fingers because I am the worst at fucking math. I pretty much failed math in high school, so it's all right.

I can count money and make money all day long. Ask me to add something, I can't fucking do it. Okay, so you guys aren't new to this, but still it's fucked up. So how did you two meet? Oh, I love it. I was so excited when you were gonna ask this. I'm sorry.

We, actually I got together with a big group of people from TikTok, we went to Miami, all got an Airbnb. Can you name the names? Like names of people who were there? Yeah, of who the big group was. Oh, like, honestly, my roommate, Jaymo, Jack Gentry, Sal Stiles, I think his last name is Sal Stiles. I don't know any of these people.

No, a lot of them are LGBTQ. Okay. Try to think like Jane Rivera. There was like a huge group of us. Right. And we all just went to hang out, just all me, oh Kat. There was a few of them. And I had two roommates at the time, they were boys,

and they knew that her and her old roommate Liv and brought them to the house. And I didn't know who they were at first, and I was just like, I was actually in a really bad mood that night. When I tell you I walked in this house. I was really upset. No, I walked in this house and I looked at her

and I think like angels were like shining behind her. Like she was like the most like, no I'm not joking, I just have to add this in here. The most beautiful person I've ever seen in my entire life. And her and Liv literally walked up to me and were like, my mouth was, I was like, you were gorgeous.

And I was like, you guys are so cute. Aw. So then, I didn't really, we didn't get close after that. She was closer to my old roommate Liv for the longest time. And then we went through some shit. And then,

whose we went through some shit? Me and my we went through some shit me and my old roommate Live yeah, I was gonna ask you about that. That's one of the questions people want me to ask Well, we'll get into that whenever you get done with us and then after all that went through me so hanging out well, I was I was friends at Connor to before and When they had dated other were you guys together? I Yeah, we were we were together when we moved when I moved to. Were you guys together? Yeah, we were together when I moved to Florida and we were together most of the time as a

Michigan but I was not together with him when I first met. Okay gotcha. It was more, he was friends with my roommate so he was like kinda at the house hanging around while they were having issues and then he ended up like going home or whatever and I became friends with her. Gotcha and it was just, it was love at first. and he ended up going home or whatever, and I became friends with her. Gotcha, and it was just, it was love at first. Oh no, it was.

I just saw she was struggling a lot, and I have, I'm kinda stable with, I think, my mental health, and I'm always adventurous and wanting to do stuff, and I could see within her that she's very open and excited about doing things and outgoing, she just needs motivation. So I was like, I would always within her that she's very open and excited about doing things and outgoing. She just needs motivation. So I was like, I would always text her and like,

hey, you should come over and hang out. We should go do these things and blah, blah, blah. And she was a little depressed at the time, so I would have to literally go pick her up to go do these things because she wouldn't get out of bed. So I think that helped her a lot. And then I started taking her in. Basically I was like, oh, I just like,

I love you and I wanna make you feel like you should feel at home, like not what are these people make you feel. So I wanted her to like, you know, feel as I felt. I knew what I was gonna cry. It's okay. She has to help me cry.

No, but that's good. I have a best friend that I'm still best friends with who it was, I was the brunette and she was the blonde, and literally we have been best friends for over 30 years. She's coming to my husband's show in Chicago this weekend. So having a true friendship is a beautiful thing. I was really close with Liv, I consider her as my best friend and everything,

but like her, she's older than me, she's like what, two years older than me, and so she has had a little more experience in life in general. When's your birthday Whitney? August 11th. Leo? Yeah, I'm 24.

Oh yeah, that's right, I booked two of you guys' things, and you're a Virgo? Yes, I am. Yeah, Leo Virgo. Oh yeah. So she just helps me, has helped me so much, like mentally, physically, and everything. I always want to fix people. Like I always want to just take them in. has helped me so much, like mentally, physically, and everything it bids me.

I always wanna fix people. I always want to just take them in. Aw, I love you, that's how I am too. You have a very motherly spirit about you. I got like an immature brain sometimes. I just always wanna have fun. That's part of growing. You guys are doing pretty damn good

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So let's talk about, what do we wanna talk about first? Do we wanna talk about Liv or do we wanna talk about Connor? Which one? Both are interesting. Let's talk about Liv and then we'll get into Connor. Yeah, so me and like just from like the start. Yeah, just to kinda, I think everybody's wondering

what happened with you guys, where you guys are at now, your relationship with her and stuff like that. Yeah, so we met through TikTok. She actually reached out to me and Dianne Me. We both lived in Michigan at the time, like an hour away from each other. She was from Grand Rapids, I was from Stevensville. And she just had Dianne Me and was like,

why don't you come hang out with me? I was like, bad, I made an hour drive there, hung out there and I was like, oh my gosh, she's like me. So we just kept hanging out. She moved in with me. Like I would say like like two months after we met she came and moved down the part of Michigan I was in and we lived together for a year and then we decided that we wanted to

expand I guess and go somewhere else because it was just a really small town. We had just started also getting bigger on social media together And we were traveling to LA in different parts and just meeting all these people so we were super excited about it So we decided to move to Florida We got an apartment in August and we moved there. It was really fun And I was I started dating Connor before before I moved it was probably like three months

before we moved to Florida, I started dating Connor. And... Because y'all had visited a few times, like me. We, yeah, we went to Florida, we traveled out like where we wanted to live. We got no really big issues at all while we were living in the apartment. We lived in two places together in Florida.

So the apartment, the only problem that we ever really had was she was just upset constantly that Connor was there, which, oh my goodness, he would never leave. But that was kind of the only, we never really argued. She also would have a lot of health issues, which as a friend, I constantly, and also I'm very like mother nature, like I constantly wanted to take care of her.

If I get a cut, she's right there. I'm just like that type of person as well. And so I was constantly taking care of her. Which can take, I never told anyone but it can take a mental toll on you. Because I was sick sometimes and you know I wanted to be nurtured in a way or something like that. But I was so focused on making sure she was okay. She had lupus.

She was constantly taking so many medications, shots. It was hard to keep up with it, but I was always the one that would be like, you take your meds, make sure you have your meds, call her doctors, make appointments and things like that. And she helped me too as well, taking me to appointments when I had anxiety, et cetera. So we both helped each other a lot there.

Our friendship started going downhill when we moved into a house, because we actually got evicted from our first apartment, because, can I say Rocky's name? Can I like say it? Yeah, I don't see why not. Okay, so Rocky and Jsauce also got evicted.

We lived in the same apartment complex. They got evicted because they're just dumb. They're just boys. And then so they came and we let them stay with us until they could just get situated or whatever. We had a three bedroom apartment. And while I was in Michigan for Christmas, I think they decided to have some people over,

which got us evicted. And we weren't really upset about it, cause it's whatever. So we got a house, four bedroom house, like 10 minutes away from where we were. Still really good friends at that point. And then her- She started dating a boy.

She started dating, I'm gonna say it too, cause I don't like him. His name was Brandon. She started dating him, they kind of went back a while. He changed her a lot. He was very... What's the word, Whitney? Controlling. Very, very controlling.

And as a friend, it's really sad seeing someone go through that, because she saw me go through that with Connor and she was constantly like literally crying with me on how I felt and so seeing her go through that I'm like shoot like sorry you're streaming over here so it's really sad seeing that yeah it's hard to watch your friend you know when you it's when you see them going through something that they can't see. But you also want to be happy for them because you're so in love with them. Mars seems you know, gotcha.

And then that's when gosh, OK, that's when me and Rocky. Started doing our thing and live in a rocky had a past. They never dated. Everybody fuck everybody. I mean, I feel like it. I haven't done anything with anybody in the group, and I'm so proud of that. I mean, I feel like it. I haven't done anything with anybody and I'm so proud of that Hey Good for you Whitney

It's not my fault. They became homies after Can't call me homie opera and they became became friends Well, I think sometimes when you have a mutual dislike for somebody that brings people closer together Oh a hundred percent. And so when we talk about Connor when you have a mutual dislike for somebody that brings people closer together too. 100%. And so when we talk about Connor, I just want to give this disclaimer because Connor has called me multiple times and everybody, I just want to clear the air. I have invited everybody on the podcast. Kristen was all for it.

Whitney was all for it. Everything I invited the boys here, you know, Connor might tell a different story, but you know, his mother did not want him to do the podcast and after that I called him one time after I got off the phone with you he did not answer I'm not gonna chase him to come on my podcast and I never heard from him so I felt so bad after that I mean because we came we were coming we're supposed to be on your podcast last month ago yeah last season ago and that's not me talking shit.

That's just me stating facts and telling shit. Oh, no. They're not talking shit at all because that's genuinely what happened. I literally was sitting at the bar with Whitney at the airport and I remember you calling me and I was like, I felt horrible for you because you were like, I didn't even know anything about the drama. And I'm like, this poor woman doesn't know anything about the drama.

I didn't know anything. She's getting calls from whoever and she did. She genuinely was like, hey, would you be okay if we all came in here and sat down together? And I said you know what if that's what it takes to maybe we can all get it along They're there hundred percent and they didn't want Whitney to be there because that's my bitch She talks shit with me. She's very well grounded as well And I think they were more afraid of like you guys just getting loud and like arguing and I just kept knowing about us yeah, and I well I kind of you know I've been sitting back watching

the situation and Connor you can tell is still very hurt by the situation you know he started crying to me on the phone he is he's and you started crying too and I told you that he was crying so I kind of feel like there might be like some well never ended resolved yeah it was always just back and forth yeah like I told you that he was crying. So I kind of feel like there might be like some unresolved. Yeah, never. It was always just back and forth. Yeah, like I feel like you guys, to hate somebody as much as he portrays that he hates you,

there has to be love behind it. He doesn't. I genuinely think that too. I think it's- If they were to sit down in a room and talk, I don't think they've ever done that. Yeah, I just think that it's necessary. So we're not here to bash Connor. Kristin is here to tell her side of the story. And

you know, we're going to be very conscious of Connor's mental health as we proceed. So do we start from? Yeah, well, so you said that, you know, with you and live, yes, that that's when you and Rocky started messing around. So if you want to intertwine, you can. Yeah, so obviously me and Connor had broken up. I broke up with Connor, I guess I've kind of forgot this part.

I broke up with Connor right before we moved into the house. It was around, it was after Christmas, January, right when we were moving into the house. And then it was months later, it wasn't like the next day I went and slept with Rocky type thing at all. It was months later because Rocky and Liv are kind of just, no, they only did it for like two or three months.

So after you got in. While you were with Connor. Yeah, it was while I was with Connor. And then, so then we were all just like chilling. Like there was no one sleeping in the house, I guess. And then she brought Brandon and then that's we were all just like chillin like there was no no one sleeping in the house I guess and then she Brought Brandon and then that's when they started dating and I'm hanging out So Liv and Rocky were hooking up before she got with Brandon. Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes

And she hadn't been with Connor yet, or she was Let me live who was with Connor was live with Connor too. No, okay. Oh, no, no, no, I thought I heard you I mean, I don't know. I'm not starting any rumors. I'm not going to either because I have no idea what goes on now. But she was so start dating Brandon and then me and Rocky were pretty low key for, oh my gosh, sounds terrible. For like two months, we were really low key about it. We were just hooking up. And then I caught feelings like a fucking dumb ass. I mean, seriously, it was ridiculous.

Should have never even done that. But does that make you a dumb ass because you were just. No, because he did too. He did too. But that's so then Liv and Brandon moved out because Liv was upset at me because I was hooking up with him. Which I get, as girl to girl, I completely get, and I'm not gonna sit here because I know this is gonna be on social media, I get I was hooking up with him which I get as girl to girl I completely get and I'm not gonna sit here because I know this is gonna be on social media I get I was

wrong I probably should not have done that but um why was she upset she said she really liked him okay but they had never hooked up rocky and lift yeah no they did okay that's what I was just asking a second ago oh I think I think he said Connors. Oh, OK. Well, fuck me. I fucking I could not remember all the funny ones. That's how much I don't know the drama. I don't even know who. So I know Rocky's got a weird hairdo and that's all I know. That's all I just know from the hair.

That's it. A board that would crush it up. And I'm not talking shit, but that's just all I know. You know, if that's his thing, that's his thing. Whatever. I just know I was the dude with the hair um so okay okay gotcha so Liv liked Rocky they're looking up and she met her boyfriend they moved out because she was upset at me there was a lot of like tension in the house Brandon did not like Rocky because of Rocky and Liv and Rocky was never disrespectful to their relationship,

so I don't see that side of him acting like the way he did. But it was more Brandon was being, like Liv didn't really ever say anything until Brandon would start the fire. Like he would light the fire. And then Liv was like obligated to come up because Brandon was running his mouth, so it was more of like Brandon.

That's how Liv changed. Liv is not a, she's a very non-confrontational. I've never heard her yell or argue nothing until she came around. She just says that, but one thing I would try to, and I'm glad Brandon helped her, was speak her voice. If when you're upset at someone, don't be afraid to tell them.

I mean, it's taken a while to learn that too, but now with social media, whatever, you have to have a voice. You have to stand up for yourself in this world. So they moved out, and then obviously me and Rocky continued doing what we were doing. And this is why you and Connor were split. No, I had no.

Oh, so you were with Rocky before Connor? No, after. No, after. Okay, sorry. I know there's a lot of rumors going on saying that I cheated on Connor with, no correlation at all. And I'd say that would like, try and handle my. Her brain was broken up with him

and she gave him another chance. Like they broke up in what, like September. It was in September. They took a break another month and then all of a sudden they were sneaky and they went on vacation and they got back together. We got back together in October. We were on vacation.

It was never... Right, it was never overlapping. No, but it wasn't healthy, so. Right. Yeah, so that's when we rocked it, continued during it, and caught really bad feelings for the dude. I don't know why, I think it was because,

so with Connor, it was a very like, I was, I don't know, he's so sensitive, which is not a bad thing, and I'm not hating on him, he's so sensitive, but it almost takes like a toll and I'm not hating on him, he's so sensitive, but it almost takes a toll on you because I could not do anything. It was like, he'd get upset if I went out and did it with my friends and didn't invite him

or something like that. It was a constant battle with that. He got upset for me for telling the truth about why he didn't come on the podcast. He walked me and got upset with me because I was hanging out with her. Yeah, again, I'm not talking shit. I'm just painting a picture here. No, it's truthful. It's not talking shit. It's truthful.

And people are scared of the truth. And they're always telling me that I'm scared to get called out. And they're saying you're going to go. It's like the truth. Truthful thing. He is a very sensitive person. I dated the man for eight months. It's not it's not wrong to be sensitive, but I think that. He doesn't. He'll heal correctly. He does it. It's when he over a year, but I think that he doesn't. He'll heal correctly. He does. And it's been over a year since me and Connor broke.

When's his birthday? September 10th. He's at Virgo too. Ray days apart. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So I don't know. It's been a year and a half.

I think maybe he, there might be some love there, you know? Maybe. And I think that. I think he's just very upset that it all of a sudden was gone. I have literally no. Especially because you guys don't have any closure. Yeah.

No, I have no hate for the kid. And I'll tell anyone that. And I think that he thinks that. Would you want to sit down and talk to Connor if he was willing? 100%. Not on live and not, you know, like. Yeah, but we know he would probably

be on live during the whole thing. So she can't even. I was really taken aback by the live that he did and where he was sitting there just calling you names. Chlamydia ball, that has got to be number one of my favorite thing I've been called that. Chlamydia ball? Chlamydia ball.

I'm not joking. When I heard him call me that, I was like, that's cool. Well, that's when you guys were all supposed to come on. So people were tagging you and stuff, people were sending it to me, and I was just like, oh my God, what is going on? I felt so bad for you.

I was like, this girl's gonna think we're crazy. No, you know, honestly, I'll talk to you about it whenever we're not on air, but we have an amazing idea that we're gonna present to you guys. So, but we'll do that off air. We'll get the fucking website just buzzing right now. They're probably fucking just gonna be so excited when they hear that.

Shitting your face. Okay, so let's moving on. So what happened with you and Liv? So are you guys friends still? So I mended the relationship. It was after her and Brandon broke up. I won't speak on the relationship, but a little bit very toxic, which I knew it would be.

I don't think anybody has a healthy relationship at you guys' age. No, especially with social media. I have the most toxic relationships from my 20s. They moved in together, which I think is a big no, because you're with them every, you need breaks. I know when you're married, but you still need breaks from someone else.

Oh yeah, no for sure. So when none of them have, as they tell us, real life jobs and they just do social media, they're constantly together. Yeah. Gonna constantly bigger everything. So very toxic relationship for them. They broke up.

We never really stopped talking while we weren't friends because she went on social media, completely shit on my name. It was absolutely sad. I didn't do that to her. Lived it. It was really bad. Really bad.

I was like hurt really bad. And she was hurt too. That's why she did it. But I've never had anybody ever do something like that to me very personal things too yeah I would never if I she she knows everything about my life and she went on it's like me telling her everything and then her telling literally everyone everything yeah so it was it was really sad girl code too you know yeah I broke it with but I feel like you guys are all learning a lot of like how to be what

not to do on social media, what you can do. And I think that's where the world is so unforgiving with you guys, is that you guys are learning how to fucking navigate through life. Let me just give you an example, okay? This girl tells everyone where we're going.

Yeah, you guys are doing that, baby. Ask my team. She tells the world, OK? We're going on this cruise. This has got to be the most embarrassing thing. I would tell the crew. 8-day cruise. Embarrassing.

8-day cruise. We didn't get our vaccination. We lied and said we got a vaccination. We didn't. No, no one else did. We pull up to this cruise ship. We're so excited to get on okay They scan her passport in an error We get pulled aside the only only two people your Whitney around and Chris and women were like

They're like oh, they emailed us saying that you guys have fake cards. I was like I don't know if you're gonna block that but email them contacted every cards and I was like I don't know if you're gonna block that out but email them contacted every oh shit contacted every cruise line that could possibly have been going out in Florida yeah cuz I thought they were at the date no and they pulled it up and they said if you can give us like your your your like vaccination like from like CBS or Walmart wherever you got it from when I told them we'll let you go on we're like how we're gonna take this it was embarrassing so there's everyone in our group. So did you guys

end up getting on? No, our whole family did. Everyone did. It's embarrassing. I mean, they were saying though that on the cruise it was like miserable. Everybody was just, yeah, so I don't. And then four days later they lift the whole vaccine. But still, the fact that these people have that much time to do that. Or learning. I tell her I'm like. No I'm like that with my team when we go anywhere you're only allowed to check in after we leave. Yes. Like I don't want anybody knowing where we are and you have to move like that especially because now we don't even have half the people who want to harm us like you guys you know and it's really sad. I think with my issue is I've been on social media for a while. I absolutely enjoy posting I enjoy

So it's like now that everyone's I don't even think about it cuz like a year ago I could post up in wherever I wanted to say I'm going on a cruise everyone's so excited for me You know, they'll I have a blast but then now it's like let's show up and call every single ruin her You know, you gotta think about these crazies that will like show up and like want to cut your skin off and wear it type shit Yeah, like for all like no and that's how the world is wired. I'm sorry, but it's the truth No, it's it really is my kid. She's sick. She's not 16 She's 14 and I fucking freak out like I'm just do not post on social media where you are Like you just have to keep a G like that, you know or tell people you're somewhere else or if you're going some on something

Say it's the opposite of what you're doing That like that, you know, or tell people you're somewhere else. Or if you're going on something, say it's the opposite of what you're doing. That's what I said. You know, like always kind of keep them guessing. You never want everybody to know where your location is. Yeah, I just don't think about it because I've been able to do that. Yeah. I've had the freedom.

You think we're being normal right now. And it's hard because I, yeah, it's so sad, but we just totally sidetracked. No, you're good. Completely. You're good. So Liv, She went live. She broke up.

She cheated on me while her and her boyfriend were together. I blame it on Brandon, 100%. I know Liv is not like I was her best friend for a year and a half. I know she would never do something like that, but Brandon absolutely had a negative impact on her life really badly, and she had to learn that the hard way. Very verbally abusive relationship,

and that's really sad. So we didn't, like I said, we never really stopped talking. We text here and there, but no hanging out, nothing. And then one night I was just like, you know what? I don't really like this. She was my best friend, I texted her, I was like, let's hang out. And so we hung out one night and had a blast.

I was like, I miss this. And then hung out with Whitney the next day, we went out for her birthday with Liv, Jordan, Bre, I don't know if you know all of them, but just like a girl, like friend group, we went out for birthday. We all got absolutely blasted and it was so fun. We had a, it was so fun We went out for a birthday. We all got absolutely blasted. And it was so fun.

We had a, it was so fun. So then, for our birthday as well, we were coming to Nashville the week that you wanted us to come on the podcast. It was a lot of drama. And we were really excited, because we were like, okay, maybe we can just like all have fun,

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So she was coming, she had to tell Grant because of that. So Grant, because of the baby and their court and stuff like that, she had to tell him where she was going, which makes sense, but Grant opened his mouth and then told all the boys. So then they started posting petty shit, so they're like, fuck.

So then we get there, we're on a house. Do you feel like it's a little bit of back and forth with you guys? Like you guys are both sides are antagonizing each other. Oh, I will not deny. We've kinda recently stopped though, like I don't, I mean sometimes I'll do like little here and there.

So to speak. They just constantly like Connor will post stories about her like Photoshopped with like eight different dudes. Like he just keeps posting. It's just weird, it's weird shit. Like it's been, I would never, I would never do something. I'm not saying would never cause I definitely have. But it's been a year and a half.

Rocky will make his little stupid TikToks talking about how he, oh, I don't even know, and then Connor will do it, and then they'll think it's funny, they'll do it together, and then I just shut my mouth. And then it's constant, so then I feel like I have to say something, and then it's back and forth. It's just, it's never, it's just never.

It's like our whole lives, like we'll go live, and it's comments, comments. You see what he posted. You see what they posted. I don't have any of them on social media. I don't have Rocky on Snapchat. I don't have Connor on Snapchat. I don't have KB on Snapchat.

Their TikToks will pop up on, I have to make an account every week. So their TikToks pop up on my free you page. Don't follow them. Don't keep up with them. I generally have no interest in involving myself into them. As much people want to say I'm obsessed. I don't remember the last time I've checked

or typed in Connor, John, Rocky, any of them. I get shit sent to me. Right, oh no, I know, people send me shit. So I don't purposely go the right way. So we get to Nashville and first night, super fun. Did we go out the first night? We went out the first night, fun. Little bit of, did that night,

everything happen the first night? Okay, little bit of, does that deny everything happened the first night? Okay, little bit of drama. No, because I thought I had heard that you guys like all made up or something, like ran into each other. Like the boys were all happy. I was invited, it's funny they try to say that we weren't, but I was invited to the house with the boys. Yeah.

I was friends with Meg. Who invited you? And Meg was there. And Lane, I'm pretty sure it was Lane. Who invited you? Lane and Meg. Yeah, and they were just like, yeah, you can come over, whatever. Well, we thought that some other people were asleep.

We walk up there, we're both hammered. Like, but I was like, stay back because like, I'm gonna go and she's like, just tell me, like what's going on, blah, blah, blah. I'm nosy. Cause I was just gonna go hang out with the boys that weren't a part of it. I'm sure a part of you wanted to see Connor too though, right was just going to hang out with the boys that weren't a part of it.

I'm not sure if you wanted to see Connor too though, right? Or no? No, we actually, I'll be honest, we wanted him to stay inside. Everybody else got him and then he came out. Actually, we were told that Connor was sleeping. So that's why we could come over. So before any of y'all get to say anything, we all know that's the truth. So then we walked up and then KB's like on the top screaming down. I was like, I'm not here for you. But they are here for your friend.

Okay, they all came down. All came out. All of them except for Connor. They were all being nice. They were like flirting with us and like being funny. Just having a couple of stations. Connor comes out. It was a whole show.

And that's when you saw the live. Who the fuck is this girl here, Bob? Oh, he was just, she was talking to Rocky the whole time. Does he act different when he's offline than when he's online? He's still like that offline? I don't even know. We haven't even hung out with him. I mean, I do.

How he talks about women and how he talks in general is how he talks on and off social media. It's sad. I mean, I don't know if I can get into his relationship with his mom and- Yeah, let's not talk about that. I tell myself. Yeah That's not well, that's one thing we'll leave out We don't want to talk about people's families because you know if we keep it just here and what you guys have gone through

It's your side of the story And then like I said Connors always allowed to come on you guys can come on together again. I don't care like yeah You know, I just wanted everybody to feel like it's fair You know people wanted me to bring you guys on this podcast and they're like, she better ask them this and I'm just like, I'm not here to drag people. Like that's not what I do. And what podcast do you know, brings their fucking guests on to fucking berate them and treat them like shit?

Like that's not, I would never do that. You know? So I think you guys just being here telling your side of the story, they can take it and if they don't like it, they can fucking just write paragraphs on, you know? Like, you know, so it doesn't matter. At least you're telling your side of the story, but we'll leave the families out. That is 100% okay.

So it's still talking about Liv. I don't know how the hell we keep getting in the truck. So she came, we all- I think they're like intertwined. I know, it's just like, shit happens. But so we, she came, had a good night the first night. Second night, we went out. There's a whole table of us, Taylor, Taylor holders, like. happens but so we she came had a good night the first night second night we went out there's a whole table Taylor Taylor holders like this is my this is I

just recently he looks like a fucking like a hot cartoon Barbie doll yeah it's crazy yeah like it's so weird ah ha ha Chris is he's your next victim. Someone did post that, I'm not joking. Who did? They literally put Chris Stank's next victim. It was a picture of me and Zayler. Oh my goodness. Yeah, no he's beautiful. We're all genuinely just really good friends. We went out the second day and us girls, so

me and Wendy talked about this. We were just like, just to avoid the drama. We went out with two other boys from social media that we met. We were trying to avoid everything. But the girls that we went with were trying to hide that they were going to hang out with all the other boys. They left us. And they didn't know, they didn't tell us.

We all went up together, they left us to go to the table. And another part of the KB was trying to get us kicked out. It was really, it was really, it didn't make any sense, because it's literally 19 years old, but. It was a really, it was a really strong, I was so.

I don't think she's been around all of them at the same time. It was the first time I saw Connor since we broke up. I had not been around, first time I saw Rocky, first time I saw Katie. How did that make you feel to see Connor? It doesn't affect me, but I think when we had a conversation, It was just loud. It was hard, it was loud.

There was, I would say yelling, but it was just music playing. He was like, he told you, and you can cut this if you want, but he was just like, you made me wanna kill myself screaming at my face, and I was like. He told me that too, and I don't think we need to cut that. I think we need to, that needs to be a huge part of this is that men go through things emotionally, and that's why I still think Connor has feelings for you because he loved her yeah

I can eat when they first and that's nothing to laugh at like we're not laughing at him for that at all You know, like he'd love his love. You can't help who you love When they were first arguing like that's why I was at my house Yeah crying to me and like I hadn't been close with her so I saw both sides and how it would frustrate her that he was upset so then she would react to what he would say and go back and forth and he would sleep on my couch for a few days and I was like, Kristen, you either need to tell him

to go home or you need to fix it because she didn't want to be with him anymore. I didn't. But she didn't know how to tell him because he would freak out. Right. And it was on me because that's not Fair because that's a form of manipulation. Yes

He wouldn't leave my house first time we broke up he drove from Georgia because we lived we did long distance he drove from Georgia to Florida at like three in the morning and it was like knocking on my door while I was sleeping and I was like Come on. I can't I I can't do this. This is exactly why I He didn't do anything. This is exactly why. He didn't do anything wrong the first time we broke up. I just, you know when you just like emotionally detach yourself from someone? That's how I felt.

I was just, I couldn't do it. It was exhausting, like emotionally exhausting. I hate to break it to you guys, but you're gonna go through probably 10 more fucking relationships. And I hope you do because you're gonna get married one day and fucking that's that. You know, have all the fun you can have now

and don't worry about it. If love happens, it'll happen organically, you know? And you'll know when it's the right time and when you're meant to be with somebody. You know, you guys literally are 22. How old are you? You're 24. 22 and 24.

I did younger and it's so bad. Yeah. They're always so bad. Yeah. They're always so awful. Yeah, like you guys have, there's so much living to do still that you guys have. You know, so it's okay to break up with people. Yeah, that was the first night I had saw him since the second time we broke up.

We've only gotten back together once, but that was like months after. We just kept slandering each other on social media. So it was just constantly conversations. But it was blocked. They never actually communicated I have not since the day me and him broke up I have not had a separate enclosed conversation that a lot of people think that we do and you guys will eventually when he's

Able to do it emotionally. I think you guys will be and then I saw him he was yawning me He started crying and I was like I just it's like whatever and then Rocky came up to me and at the time I still. Fucking Rocky. He's like, it's always a Rocky. I know. But he fits into it because it's part of it. And I still was like, kind of over him, but like at the same time like,

maybe they say go on. Say it now, what was it? Oh gosh. was that? They got together after that multiple times. Multiple times? Not once, it was at the, it was at the. No. Oh shoot, what else, when?

After that, he lived at your house still. Not, not from Nashville. Oh. No, I never got with him in just that one night. I'm telling that straight for you. You know, you know, I tell you. I know. that one night. I'm too natural for him. Oh, no, no, no. I know. OK, so anyway, so he came up to me. He's like, I love you.

And I'm like, Rocky is saying that. Yeah, I was like, I was like, still walks away crying. Yeah. Connor, this already happened in like five minutes. Not our Connor and Rocky friends. Mm hmm. Because of whatever. That's not my thing to say. But he sees his homie crying over you and he walks up to you and says, I love you.

He does not give a shit about anything. They want it to look like, they want it to come against me. They want it to hurt me so bad. They really do. They became friends, friends. Shortly after me and Rocky kind of like ended things and him, KB and Rocky all were like, it was for Rock the South, I wanna say it was.

And they became all of a sudden best friends, probably sucking each other soft, I'm sure. While it's soft. While it's, sorry, I'm gonna say it. Sucking while it's soft. Sucking it while it's soft. It's crazy. But they wanted it to hurt me so bad and it truly did.

I was so over all three of them and I'm like, that's ridiculous. That's a lot to deal with. And they say very hurtful things whereas when we come back at them, it's like a joke, like Sid the Sloth, like that's fucking hilarious. Like Rocky looks like Sid the Sloth. I don't even know who that is. But I could only

imagine from ice. Oh my god. That thing the one with the T. Oh my god. That is so fucking funny. He's over here. He knows it. He was even that for Halloween this year. So like, that's how we joke them is straight it's straight up like, no. Sex with her is terrible. Her pussy stinks. Connor literally said the other day, I came up with my free page,

he's saying that I, still to this day, said that I don't wash myself. Connor said this? I'm very unhygienic. Dude, I mean you fucked me in the shower while I was washing myself. I don't know. I mean seriously, that's genuinely like how it is.

That's just immaturity on his part. It's very sad. It's like us saying like they're dick small. It still bothers them too. It just bothers me that Connor comes to me crying about mental health and being bullied and stuff like that. But to go-

Disrespectful. But to say that about a woman is very damaging and harmful. And that could really hurt your feelings too. It's just sad because that's how they choose to talk about women. I gave Rocky a place to stay. Yeah. A very long time.

No charges, anything. And he was disrespectful as well. I didn't have him. Never thank you. Never even received it. Does he have parents? Does Rocky have parents? Yes. Dad passed away.

Mom, I don't know. Mom's here. I think he lives with mom. I don't know about now, but yeah. He lives here now. Mom's here, dad passed away. The mom is so sweet. She really is.

Yeah, but he did grow up. I think the reason, honestly, I'm never really talked with is the reason why I was so like, I guess in love with him or had a lot of feelings is because I was emotionally attached to him. I saw him cry in my bed and in my arms about family. I saw he's told me everything he went through in his life growing up very hard, him and Jsauce, his other best friend. It's really sad to see how social media

has completely changed his mindset. From the day you all started hanging out too. Very genuine kid, he really is. Yeah, you know the other Rocky before all that. I do, and anyone of his old friends will say that. All of them, I literally had them reach out to me, you mean me? Hey, I know you don't know me, but I'm Rocky's hometown friend I'm sorry that he treated you like this or I'm sorry that whatever it's really sad because I'm the type of person like she said she's a person. I want to fix someone. I want to be like I did that

I turned him around do you think you were more emotionally attached to Rocky than you were to Connor? And that's why it was like easier for you to break it off. Because we were the same people. We had the same personality. I mean, we joked around like it was nothing. And I absolutely just, he made me laugh all the time. He really did. And I know I made him laugh

whether he wants to admit it or not. But it was such a toxic thing. It wasn't like something that, I shouldn't even be smiling. It was so toxic that it was so sad that I, it was my fault. I went back. I don't even, he lived with me though.

So it was like easy. And he has, he said he was bored. He was bored. So that's why he had sex with me. I'm not saying that. I enjoyed it. I thought and I genuinely had feelings for him. And I know at one point he did too,

whether he wants to admit it or not. Well, that's what I was about to say. Because we've had separate conversations off the internet. Yeah. Well, I mean, his homie is walking away crying, and he's walking up to you saying, I love you. He went on vacation with me and my family.

Yeah. I don't think that if he was just bored, he would do that. Right, for sure. Take me out, go swim in dolphins. I mean, that's so cute. I don't think. Do you still have feelings for Rocky? No.

No, 100%. I would say that truthfully. Yeah. No. Just because there's too much hurt. It's disgusting. Too much things that have been said. It's really disgusting how I sat back

and let myself get treated like that. And how long were you guys together off and on? Since January. February probably. Of this year? Till October? August. August. August. August.

August. So it was like, but he was sleeping with other people. I didn't sleep with one other person while I was sleeping with him. Mm-hmm. He slept with many people. Yeah. We've seen it.

I mean, he's a young boy. He is. And he's gonna enjoy his life. Yeah, he's gonna fuck it up. He thinks he's hot. And even if you guys were sleeping with other people too, it's just like. No, and I'm not saying it's wrong,

because we weren't together technically, but it's still so like, mentally, it fucks with you so bad. Because you're an option, I hate that. It does, and he made me feel like he liked me at one point, and then he'd go sleep with his ex, or and then he'd go fuck a girl for content, and then come back and be like,

no, like, I really do like you. So just. Yeah, we just discovered that fucking Connor had an OnlyFans only because we were doing research for this thing that I'm gonna Tell you about when we're off the camera. Okay, and I was like How is he talking shit about everybody when he's got an only fans? I was like, holy shit, you know Like this is crazy, but you know, I you know to each there I have an only fan

So I'm not talking shit, but I'm just saying like probably having only fans Yeah, but I'm just saying like, you know, Kristen the judgment runs high, you know for certain things that the hypocrisy Okay, so moving on from Connor and Rocky. Are you and live friends still or no? Um, we really haven't hung out after that national trip because she ended up Kissing Rocky which oh Yeah, we never got back to that. She kissed Rocky that one night. He did it on purpose, right in front of my face.

Grabbed her, made out with her, whatever. Didn't hurt me because I was honestly over him. Right. But I was still like, what the fuck? I was just more of like, you know. But then it was, and then I looked back at it, I'm like, I guess I did that to her in a way. So I didn't really give a fuck.

It was like, she knew I was upset, not upset. She knew she felt like she did something wrong, which she didn't do anything wrong, but she felt like she did. So she was she didn't do anything wrong, but she felt like she did. So she was- Never let a guy come in between a friendship. And that's, and I think that's where I was like, what the fuck, because we literally,

that night we hung out for the first time after everything happened, we had a conversation about everything, and we're like, I genuinely cannot believe we let two boys the size of my arm get in the way of our friendship. And that was truthful and we apologized and we had a whole long conversation.

So when that happened, I was just like- Was she drunk? She doesn't drink like that. No. I mean, she could have been. Like I said, like Wendy said, they left us. Right. And went and hung out at the table

where we weren't invited, all of them. So even if she was drunk, whatever, I'm not upset, I'm not mad, I don't care. I mean, I was over, I don't know if you've seen the video of me crying in the bathroom on the floor. I did. So it was from that night, I had that happen, then Rocky tell me he loved me,

and then Connor tell me that he wanted to kill himself because of me, and then I had KB. Kicking us out. I feel like KB's always in the mix somehow. He's not even relevant. I seriously, he tries to put himself in mix. He's not even relevant. I Seriously, he tries to put himself in it to make him seem like it Yeah, I've known him for years and he's not I he's not actually like that until recently you guys know This is all gonna blow over the older you guys get

Like friends again and probably Fucking again and like it's all yeah, like you guys are just in the thick of it right now And there's you guys will just end up growing up together you know and this is just part of you guys' journey and part of your path. Whitney where does all this play for you? I feel like it's here. I know, I'm like what's Whitney doing?

I've known all them individually just separate from her so like I'm not, I don't hate anybody. I don't dislike anybody and I haven't been with any of them. Right. I have talked to them, I think before her. Me and Connor flirted before they dated, me and KB. But I never ended up, I never met Connor till her. Right.

And then after I was just like, I don't like the way that they treated her yeah so I mean I I like have her back and stuff I just don't you just don't get involved in the drama like Chris's head went I'm an instigator but I just don't like best he does you know I just respond back yeah I know that my comebacks are funny so I't like I have the best he does you know, I just respond Because I know that my comebacks are funny. So i'm like I gotta use this we I got to i'm the one that made up So this is It's hilarious And they don't like it at all

He gets every time that I would post something or whatever he would always like but he could post right like A lot of hypocrisy going left, you know take it if you're gonna be stupid That's why they didn't want Whitney coming on the podcast when you asked them, they wanted Liv because Liv is such a pleaser for everyone. She gets along with everyone, she wants everyone to like her, which is not a bad thing. I'm not talking shit.

I don't care. If you're with me and Whitney. Everybody in the world hated me, but my mom or her, I wouldn't care. Same, they would have been saying something sideways and she's gonna say something or I'm gonna say something and they know we were gonna do that. So that's why they did not want her to podcast.

I mean you guys have the right to stand up for yourselves. Oh, I'm not gonna let dweebs. I mean seriously, let them. Be nice. All right, so can we talk about what the fuck is up with Fly Soldier and you? And I just need to clear the air because hold on a second. I saw somebody sent me a live where he said

I invited him on the podcast, that's a lie. I can read art DMS right now. Well, everything usually says it comes out of his mouth. No, but he was showing our DMS He was showing our DMS so I but he didn't let anybody read him. So I'm gonna read him to you. Um He was dating my friend MJ my girl MJ. She's um He was dating my friend MJ, my girl MJ. She's MJ Fresh. They were together. Anyways, they were beefing. This is like back in April.

MJ was coming on the podcast and he said that he wanted to come on the podcast and I'm like cool, if fucking Island Boy wants to come on, he can come on with you is what I said. I never invited him by himself and never put it in writing. Anyways, April 5th, they were beefing and he said MJ's good, I got her,

trust me, she's with me, I'm good. I said, take care of my baby, please, that's all I said, he said, I will. And that's it. Never once asked him to come on the podcast, nothing. So that's a fucking lie, whatever he said. So I just wanted to clear the air. I don't like how that, I like,

his baby mama, Toxic Fairy, can come on. I love that she's holding it down and fucking raising his kid without him I think that's amazing amazing. Yeah, so Yeah, never invited him on the podcast. Do not care to have him one So you went live with him one random time. I was in michigan Uh, I don't even know why I was at home, but I was at home He invited me to go live with him. I was on live just chilling in my bed or whatever and we talked

I thought he was freaking hilarious, but then he would just like He's very he's very abusive to women it's um and I will talk shit because I've seen it like you never know what you're gonna get when you're talking to him well have you met him in person no I haven't but I have been on facetime and gone through so much shit with MJ when he has just done the most fucked up shit to her I- LiPo used to be such a bad word, but we are also supposed to act like we love every part of our bodies. It's BS. I know that especially after 40, it is so hard to keep your body in shape.

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Llo com slash bunny don't know their side of their Relationship I I have met him he came to Miami actually he lives there and off camera I'll be honest like a very sweet genuine person and now I. And now I'm not putting against what he's done to women. I can 100% see that he has said some very rude things to me and Whitney. He put me 300 pounds. It's just like weird.

He'll go from being really sweet to like really just. He went to our birthday thing in Miami and he was cool, he was very sweet. When no cameras around, he was so sweet. Then as soon as he left, right on live and talking, I'm talking anything that he can say about us, he said. Well, not me, but her. It was really sad.

I was like, dude, we should, like no issues, no drama, like literally nothing. Nothing happened. But I just think he is a, he literally said. Well, he takes a lot of Xanax. So he probably doesn't realize what's going on. He's really barred out. You think? Yeah. Have takes a lot of Xanax. So he probably doesn't realize what's going on. He's really barred out. You think?

Yeah. Have you seen him take Xanax? No, he doesn't do drugs or anything. No, he does. What about that? It's not that hard. Yeah. I think he's gone through a lot in his life,

is what he says. But I also don't think he knows what the fuck he's doing. He has a child that's absolutely freaking adorable. Alex is so much money and it's just like, we don't say anything about like money unless someone like obviously asks us. But it's like, you're wearing two watches. Do you know what time it is?

Yeah, but he'll fight with his baby mama. But he'll fight. I can't even read them and he just wears them. Definitely was waiting for the digital clock to come in the center of it. But he'll fight with his baby mama on live. And she'll say that he doesn't support them. And he like holds money over him. MJ isn't his baby mama?

No. So he talks like a fairy. Was before. Is MJ the darker haired one? And then, yes. Beautiful woman. Yeah, MJ's gorgeous. I was like. And she's cool as fuck. Like, online, she might seem a little like,

Oh no, I think she made a post about me one time because he made it seem like I was talking shit about her on a live and I was like, girl, I literally said, I remember, I was at my friend Gavin's house. She was in the live or someone was talking about her and I literally looked up her Instagram and I was like, how did you pull that? How did he pull her? No, I said the same thing whenever she told me she was her Instagram and I was like, how did you pull that?

How did he pull her? I said the same thing whenever she told me she was dating him, I was like, oh God. Cause she's like my little sister, you know? So she always hits me for advice. She's my little Virgo too. So she just, I love her to death. And you know, just like you guys,

I love seeing the younger generation just do the fucking thing. You know, like to me, that just makes me so happy. And when she told me she was dating him, I was like, why, what is happening? I was like, please. He's also like two feet tall. Yeah. Well, I literally was bench press.

His hair does add like three inches, but whatever. All right, cool. So you never hooked up with fly soldier. Oh my God. No. Okay. Oh my God. God.

I mean, MJ did, and she already knows how I feel about that. But, um, so did you have sex? Did you have sex on live? Fuck I knew this was gonna come up so no and I don't know how the hell that even came about we were on vacation with my family that was the time we were on vacation with my family we were uh that was the night that Liv that was the night that Liv went that was the night that Liv went to Disney I think we went to Universal with my family that was the night that Liv went, that was the night that Liv, We went to Disney I think. We went to Universal with my family. That was the night that Liv had, um, went on live and just completely berated me and

shit like that. But no, we were just chilling on live. He was like touching me. Who was it, Rocky? Yeah. But we did not full on just fucking- I saw the video, because whenever she had said that, she found the video for me because I was like, let me see the video, you know, because I don't know.

I've asked her like personally behind the scenes like oh I can tell me yeah no I was like I would have told her grabbing you probably that's what I said that's what I said it looks like he was like behind you yes he's probably like we're literally in the shower and she's like no like you can tell me I'm like Whitney I swear to god you do not have sexual intercourse on live because she's like not she's like weird about where she does it. She doesn't just go out in public. I don't even do explicit content on OnlyFans to the point where I would just start fucking someone on live.

Right. At all. I would not do that. I mean, at least if you're going to do that, get a motherfucking bag, baby. That's the only way I said it. When I saw that post being made, I was like, I get paid for that shit. Yeah. I saw the video and I even told her, I was like I get paid yeah for that shit Yeah, I saw the video and I even told her I was like they're not fucking you know I've had like you could tell her she's like laughing like and then they made it off

But like yeah, I know Rocky is he's like so many people asking that to me like did you fuck? Yeah, evidently that was like a big controversy and I saw the no it was it was a big thing I saw the video and I was like these motherfuckers will literally take the smallest thing. And they're saying I was doing it with someone that was. Mentally disabled on there, I was like, I don't even know who I was on live with at the time. Yeah, let's talk about that. I guess there's a huge thing where they said that you were talking about mentally disabled people or something like that.

Did we ever see that video? No, it wouldn't come up. No, that was the racist one. I guess they were saying that you were making fun of people with disabilities or something. They will say, I genuinely have never done that. My mom and sister both work with impaired children at a school and I've never done that in my life. My mom and sister both work with impaired children at a school and I've never, I know I'm pretty dumb

but I also know my limits on and off social media. I know that I would never speak negatively on that. No, I believe, I've just, they come up with the fucking craziest shit, dude. What about the racism thing? I'm homophobic. My best friend is African American. Just they come up with the fucking craziest shit dude. Oh about the racism thing. I'm homophobic with my best eyes African-american. I've it It's it's an it's incredible. Everybody can be like, yeah saying stuff constantly about racism and like the things that you say or whatever

But I got called a racist for saying trap house Like it was just crazy to me. Um, I'm an animal killer because my hamster died It was even her hamster actually. What happened with the hamster situation? Cause that was a question on here too. Be real. Actually, her nipples. I was gonna be like, please tell me you did not

starve the hamster. Yeah, seriously. No, she wasn't even living. I didn't starve. She was literally at my house most of the time. I didn't starve. And in Michigan. The hamster had food, the hamster had water.

The hamster was well taken. Okay, the hamster had water, the hamster was well taken, okay. The hamster was taken care of. Now we obviously went on vacation certain times, but like the hamster, we didn't just sit there and just let the thing rot. Right. I'm not, I don't know where people would come up with that. Genuinely.

But I didn't just like, yeah, I'm gonna choose to kill you today. Yeah. I'm just not gonna feed you. Right. But yeah. We just, honestly, we just joke around. We do many times at the times

when we're supposed to be serious. Right. You know, Kelsey, perfectly Kelsey was on here yesterday. She's so cute. She's adorable and she's actually really cute in person too. Don't tell her that though. I accidentally was like, you know, you're so cute in person because online you're not. And then I was like, you know,

that sounds terrible. Let me not say that. Um, but she was telling me why she had gotten canceled and she got canceled for naming a f*****g flower Shaniqua, you know? And to me, it's just like, the world is so sensitive and it's like, if you have any sort of a little bit of a personality,'s cancel cancel these 100% because you're not allowed to be a smart-ass you have to be serious about everything like I feel like everybody fucking ate glue as children like something picked while I made a video tick-tock of which I've seen so many people do of the faucet being on and he

hold a towel and you have to get the towel around the faucet. Waste of water, you know kids in like, everywhere need water, I'm like yes I know that, I'm so sorry. No but me and her, that's why we're hated so much but loved so much because we don't care. Can't get canceled if you don't care. I've been trying to get canceled,

I'm a homophobic racist. We know the truth, we know we're not like that. And anyone that has- Why do they think you guys are homophobic? racist. We know the truth. We know we're not like that. Right. And anyone that has- Why do they think you guys are homophobic? I mean, I'm- Oh no, they think that we, what's the word? What's lesbian fish or what's the,

I don't know, some word because we, okay, first of all, I find her obviously hella attractive. She's my best friend. Have you guys ever hooked up? No. We make out. We don't actually anymore because like my ex, like at the time, we would kiss

and he'd get like really upset. So I just sort of would stop. I don't like her ex so I'll do it again. But like never, I mean. I think men who get upset when friends are kissing, that's a red flag. Yeah. The thing is I love kissing.

When I have girls, 100%. But it's no like in a sexual way, like I'm not gonna go home with one if that makes sense I have no hate against like she she's really hooked up with a girl and like I have just it's not my interest But I'm never going to shame absolutely no anyone ever for having that interest Yeah, oh my like basically all my friends yeah, oh layers I love them. It's. All my friends are gay. Hilarious, I love them. It's like I don't see them any different. My daughter is bi. I grew up in a very Christian household.

Where is my- And we support it whole. I am like, please date women over men. Yes. I'm literally like, if I think, honestly, if I didn't meet another girl that I was like, it's not even like, is it a girl is a guy? I don't care.

But it's just like the way that we click together. Like if I am treated the way that I wanna be treated, I'm gonna be with a girl is a guy? I don't care it But it's just like the way that we click together like if I am treated the way that I Want to be treated I'm gonna be with a girl if I want to be with girl if somebody makes you feel good It doesn't matter what their gender is. Yeah, I agree. Love who you want to love Everyone has their own opinions and everything but don't ever like I 110% my girlfriend in the beginning when we were dating Has treated me better than anybody has ever treated me. So it was like insecurities. Would you guys ever get back together? We were on and off a little bit.

It was more like I was still in high school so I was back and forth between like my sexuality a little bit. So like she was also, we were both getting big. So it was like how they were. Do we know, are you let, are we let? Her name is Michelle Lundy. Okay, I don't know if you know who she is.

She, yeah, she got canceled a while ago too. She. What'd she get canceled for? Being racist. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so. Which she's not either, but words came out and they took it the wrong way.

So I just think that, I don't know, I love girls too. She's like maybe, possibly, if you guys down the road. Yeah, I just had a really bad experience. She was back and forth with drugs and her body type. And I just saw a lot of things that she would do behind social media that she made a workout plan, she wasn't working out. And she was making so much money off of it

and finessing the system basically. And I was just watching it and I was like, you don't even do those things and you're selling these plans to people and making them think that they're gonna lose this weight by starving themselves or by, it was really bad. But she was losing weight through Vibans and Adderall.

And I'm really big against drugs. Do drugs if you wanna do drugs, but I have never, I have smoked weed, but I will not touch a drug in my life. I'll have a headache all day, and it will take me as much to take an ad. If she gives it to me, I'll take it, but I will not take anything else.

I'm the same way, that's how I am. Yeah, no. And I have to see where the pills come from before I swallow them. I have insanely bad anxiety with pills and swallowing them even, but. Do you guys battle any mental illness or depression, anxiety, stuff like that?

I know you said you were pretty stable and that it hasn't hit you like that. Yeah, mm-mm. I've never been depressed. I think, honestly, I probably should probably see a doctor. I think I'm bipolar Yeah, but it doesn't really affect me like I'm sad at times but never like Well, I think you're bipolar because do you have like manic man? Yeah, but I think that it's like she's really bad at

She thinks everything stresses her out. She's really bad at doing there's something Has to be done more than one thing has to be done. At the same time, I freak out. Freak out. But I take it out on my friends. And it's bad. Like it doesn't affect me, because I'll just be like,

why the fuck are you talking to me like that? But. I have really bad attitude. But I also know that it, that is how she is as a person. So I can work with it. But sometimes I'll realize it and I'll step back, I'll call my mom, I'll probably see a doctor or something,

she's like, yeah, well you need to get blood worked on or whatever, but I'll notice it and then I'll cry about it for a second, because I'm treating my friends really bad and I don't know how to handle it. And she'll just be like, just chill out. Because I hired my best friend's my assistant, and I basically just put everything on her, and it's helped me a lot, so.

Yeah. It's just like my brain just. That's necessarily bipolarness, I think it might just be, you just get overwhelmed very easily. Very, very easily. And then you lash out. So, I get like that sometimes too,

like if there's a lot going on, I fucking freak out. I freaked out on Mimi in the car when we were driving, whenever you were reading those text messages, I was like, just keep reading. Because I was under stress. So I don't know if that would be considered bipolar. But always get blood work done. My brother was diagnosed last year.

With Tourette's and bipolar. And manic depression. So it's like, I don't know if it runs in the family. Yeah, get your blood work done. It's always good to get checked. What about you? Do you battle that stuff very I'm doing? Incredibly so much better now good She can't sleep. That's the one I have really bad restless legs

I can't sleep horrible, but like sleeping meds like I don't even deficiency. Yeah, I don't start working out more as what she needs I don't I don't like smoking. I don't like the way it makes me feel. I don't like anything that makes me feel like an out of body experience. Yeah, me too. The sleeping meds, they put me on, my therapist, I took it once, I hated it.

So I can't sleep at all for shit. I really can't sleep. Then when she does go to sleep, she sleeps like, if I don't wake her up, she'll sleep well. Yeah, but when I first moved to Florida, it was about a- That's a form of depression though, too I struggle. I struggle. I really do struggle really bad and she does try to help me a lot I'm really stubborn too when it comes down to it

But then she has FOMO a little bit when I'll go and do stuff like I'll go to the mall I want to go like she like it's it's getting better. Yeah, like I'll have to tell her like you're going to the gym with me She'll get up and go. Yeah. That's good for your mental health too. It really is. She's helped me a lot. But about two months before I moved to Florida,

so near August, I just started getting really bad panic attacks, but I didn't know what it was. I do have heart problems. I do take Potoprolol. It's nothing crazy. I just have a really high heart rate. Just normally. You were just born with that? Yeah, it's nothing crazy. I just have a really high heart rate, just normally.

You're just born with that? Yeah, it runs in my family. That could have a lot to do with your anxiety. I think it does, because I didn't like, I could feel my heart rate speeding up, and then I'd have a panic attack, but I didn't realize I had anxiety. But I didn't want to believe it,

because I was so mad at my cardiologists for like, it could be anxiety. I'm like, no, please, there's something wrong with me. And so they finally listened, and then I finally still had like these panic attacks at the time, I didn't know what they were. I couldn't drive. I didn't drive for probably six months.

I did not drive at all. I could not get into a car. Her car would just sit in the park. But like I've never been like that. I've always loved to drive, loved long trips. I've loved traveling, all that type of stuff. It was like gradually though, she would like pull to the side of the road

and be like, I need help. She would call us. She was like, someone come pick me up, I've loved traveling, all that type of stuff. It was like gradually though, she would like pull to the side of the road and be like, I need help. She would call us. She was like, someone come pick me up, I can't make it. I get it at night, like going through intersections, I'm like, oh my God, please don't hit me. Yeah. I hate driving at night. And I couldn't, I literally could not like leave my house.

She was there one time when I went to a- I would literally have to, like I would, I wouldn't even tell her I was coming, I would just come pick her up. Like, get in the car. I finally couldn't, I couldn't take it anymore and I went to a therapist, got on Lexapro, took about three months.

I went and stayed in Michigan for like, not three months, sorry, three weeks. I went and stayed in Michigan with my family until the medicine kicked in because I felt so bad. I felt so lonely. I felt horrible. And a lot of it has to do with how I have been treated in the past and how I've gone through a lot in social has to do with how I have been treated in the past and

how I've gone through a lot in social media and stuff like that I just felt like I know I'm not alone but like I felt so alone. You felt singled out, yeah for sure. Do you feel better now? Are you still on Lexapro? I'm still, I will probably not stop taking that. It has helped me so much. I'm on the highest dose, I'm on my heart medication. I'm straight chillin. I really have this wonderful I can travel I can do anything So it's wonderful. It really has helped a lot. That's amazing. Yeah, so dating Are you guys dating anybody right now? Are you guys both single? Single as fuck. Single?

I'm not, I have a few options, but There is one That I could see myself with but he's on social media. Yeah, boy. Good What is your type Kristen? Okay, so I do you know everybody's listening right now and now that they know you're saying that you guys are saying Oh, they all know all the guys hate me. I mean all of them Pussy stinks probably It doesn't, by the way.

I would know. I would know. I sleep with her and I'm with her and take showers. Some of their friends would know. No, you can smell a dirty pussy. Dude, 100%. You can smell a dirty pussy through pants. I've had a few friends. Anyways, it's disgusting.

I'm going to need to help with my time. I definitely love the brown haired, light eyes, 100%. Me too. But also, obviously like abs, but like I don't care about that, but like it's just hot to look at, obviously. But I mean, I don't give a shit. Personality, 100%.

I know I'm really easygoing, really freaking hilarious, especially with her. If they don't have like a personality, it's like talking to a brick wall. Just don't even talk to me. You just want someone to make you laugh too. I take anybody that can make me laugh over fucking abs any day.

Any day. Yeah, personality for sure. Any day, 100%. What about you Whitney? I had a few different. She's like, I'm still figuring it out. I think I have two sides. I have the fisherman handyman. Cause I have my, I think I have two sides. I have the fisherman, like handyman,

like if, cause I have my own house. So I, if we start hanging out, take me on dates, whatever, that's fine. But if you come to my house and you're fixing shit, get in the bed. Yeah. I'm saying like the washers are working. The dudes are gonna come in

and nothing's gonna be wrong with your house. And they're just like, let me fix your fridge for you. But if you're like, if you see me like cleaning and like struggling fixing something, you're just sitting there. Like, call your dad. I'm like, really? That's, you're not my husband.

Yeah. Yeah. But my other type would be country boys, like hunting. Yeah. Just dudes that are with, got their hands dirty. That can get their hands dirty. Very respectful. I'm having their hands dirty. Very respectful. I'm having a hard time finding respectful men.

It's sad. See how these people are. Do you guys date older, younger? What do you guys like? I like baby faces. You like baby faces. Baby faces. I don't like facial hair.

I like both. Sometimes if it's cleaned up well, it looks good. I like baby faces too. But I'm a baby face person. Yeah. I like clean shaved sometimes. I've only dated, okay, I kind of dated, I would say like 28 was the oldest,

and then 25 and I had a really, really bad experience with them. I never really dated older. I mean, I guess Connor was older than me by eight days. But I've never actually been on a real date, so I never really dated data. Aw, you need somebody to take you on a real date. So I never really dated David. Aw, you need somebody to take you on a real date. I've never had someone take me on a real date.

We're basically dating then. I take her on dates all the time. I feel like dating is so fucking weird though. You have to sit across the table from each other and just chew. It's just weird. Who wants to see another person chew? Take me to something fun.

The arcade is the move. Yeah. Or bush gardens. But the thing is, me and Whitney together, I mean separately too, but like we're really getting like just engaging in conversations, being very out there, like I won't make you feel awkward. I'm going to probably make fun of you at first,

but I'm hoping you do the same to me. Will either of you date Kayden? The silence was so strong. I love his personality. He's, I feel like he's looking for love. I think that I could but yeah, I don't I don't yeah, I would see him as a friend right now. Yeah, I'm not really looking at the moment. I'm like so emotionally detached from like men in that way. Yeah, she needs to- What about Jaden? Which one? Armor. Armor, yeah. Yeah. He's a cutie pie, right?

He's so cute. He is, can have either of you hooked up with him? No? I don't think he's like that either. He's like the type that doesn't hook up with people in the group. Oh really? Mm-hmm.

Okay, gotcha. But he's, yeah. He's probably got a lot of options in that room, yeah. I'm sure you guys do too though. Like you guys aren't looking really outside of your group right now because you guys are too, though. You know, like you guys aren't looking really outside of your group right now because you guys are dealing with a bunch of bullshit. But I'm sure there's so much love for you guys online, too, that outweighs the bad.

It just sucks that we pay attention to the bad. Yeah, it does, because it's always there. And it's hard to focus on the positive when you're constantly just being brought down by the negative. Yeah, absolutely. But you guys do have a lot of people who fucking love the shit out of you guys. Like, you know, don't ever think that just because those people over there are fucking miserable There's millions and millions of more people that are really invested in you guys a story and are like fascinated by you guys You guys are like role models for girls your age right now, you know

So that's why everybody's watching you guys as every fucking move. How does that feel? That's got to be like pretty heavy on your shoulders. I watching you guys' every fucking move. How does that feel? That's gotta be pretty heavy on your shoulders. I don't know, we don't really even think about it sometimes, we just post to post and then we realize that when we go out in places that we really do get noticed everywhere we go and we love it, we really do. And we know that we do have a big impact on a lot of women

because I know a lot of women have gone through the same shit I've gone through except off social media. I haven't gone through it with the boys. I haven't gone through anything traumatic with them like something that people are like, how did you do it? No, it's just a simple breakup. He cheated on me. He cheated on me like shit, talked to me like that, mentally abusive, verbally abusive. Everyone goes through that in some form of relationship.

But to see it unfold on social media, how we react, how they react, it does. It makes people open their eyes and be like, I never wanna go through something like that. And this is how they cope through it. This is what I should not do. I should not go on social media and make a fool out of ourselves and stuff like that. So people learn a lot of stuff through our mistakes in life. And I think that's so cool.

But I also think that people don't understand that we're willingly putting ourselves out on social media to be judged, but also that we are going to make mistakes. So, but I think it's really cool that I didn't think I'd be known or had people come up to me and all of and all of a sudden last night we're shoving breadsticks in our face and someone's like, oh my gosh, it's so cool though. It really is. And my parents love it. They love when I go out and they're like, oh My mom's they're looking at drama. They're so your mom is in the drama Well, they're our parents are like, I'll give us a tea. Yeah, like what is here like today?

Are they on the website? Do they want read the website? Oh, I don't know if my mom does my mom does Oh, she hates it. She's always like, are you okay? I saw the post. My mom made me look at it today. Don't worry about a girlfriend. I'm good. Yeah. Yeah, they're in it. They see everything. Moms are so invested into it. They're so cute.

They support you guys. Very supportive. They have your backs and stuff. That's amazing. I feel like you're old enough to make your own decisions. You're going to do what you're going to do. If you can handle it, do it. Yeah.

You guys are fully supporting yourselves. Whitney, you said you have your own house, right? So you guys are making money off of social media Correct and off your only fans and stuff like that. How is only fans for you guys? Great great Never had a complaint. I don't you don't even go on it like we have our system. We have a system. They may does it Well, you're a measurement. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so awesome. Love that. So it's just doing great for you guys Well, what does 2023 hold for you guys?

We got a new year coming up. Do you guys have any goals that you want to accomplish next year? I want to start my merch and one day hopefully open up a clothing business or like line or something like that. Cause I know I can do really well with that with the interactions I have on social media.

So yeah, for sure. What about you, Liv? I want to open a doggy bar. Aw. Really? I have four social media. Yeah, for sure. What about you, Ed? I want to open a doggy bar. Aww! You would! I have four dogs at home. I saw them. They are so cute. They're so freaking cute. I love dogs. I love animals. I love

taking care of animals. I mean, drinking and dogs. It's a great combination. Okay, so you want people to be able to go to the bar, hang out, and then just have dogs there. Yes, I'm also gonna say go for her as well. A lot of, what's the word? I don't know the word. You know, like, because of dog's fight,

or like drinking insurance. Insurance, that's what I get. Liability. Yeah, liability, there we go. I also wanna make a go for her as well. Her singing, she's a good idea. Liability. Yeah, that liability, there we go. I also wanna make a goal for her as well. Her singing, she's amazing at singing. I want her to perform. Can you sing something for us?

Mm. She's like, no. I won't, I won't do it. She's really amazing at it and I want her to perform. I try. You gotta do it. Strike while the iron's hot too, while you have all these eyes on you,

and start doing it. They just made a song, so whenever that comes out, it's gonna do really well. And she's performing it, so. Yay! I just don't know a lot of the music, a lot of people that do music, yeah, but I don't know how to reach out, you know what I mean?

I have obviously friends and stuff that sing, but Justin reached out. You know what, just start dropping your shit on TikTok. That's all you need to do. First, just start dropping it and building a fan base ontok and then go from there. You'll figure it out Trust me. It'll figure it out for you. I'm gonna see how this song does and yeah Well, I'm excited to hear it Why don't you guys shout out your socials or if people aren't following you they can know where to find you and shout out your

only fans to Can I grab my phone into that? I don't think I know my handle for that. Mine is WhitneyRand1. Basically on everything. Yeah. No mine's Kristen Whitman as well. Mine's Kristen underscore Whitman. My only fans is Kristen underscore Whitman as well actually. So go to subscribe. Yeah go subscribe babies. I am so happy that you guys came by and I can't wait to see what you guys do you know in these next coming years like I'm really excited to see what you guys do with your brand and stuff like that So thank you guys for coming on the podcast anytime. I'll come back I'll bring you guys back every year

I bring back my guests every year just to have them come check in and just see the growth and all that in the journey We want to follow the journey and you guys have enough motherfuckers invested so they'll definitely want to know what you're up to. Thank you guys though. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.