Dumb Blonde - Whitney Wren's Reality

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

She's baaaack! Bunnie kicks off Season 9 with Whitney Wren, who’s here to spill the tea and clean up the mess (or make it worse). She breaks down the drama with Christen, the latest on her relationship with Tyler, and why she insists on living in a house full of dogs. Nothing is off-limits!Whitney Wren: TikTok | IG Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Ms. Whitney Wren, baby. Hello, bitches. First of all, let's tell everybody how hungover you are. Yeah, I threw up right before I came here. I actually texted her and I was like, well, she was sick first. And then she texted me and goes, I'm here. I actually texted her and I was like, well, she was sick first and then she texted me and goes, I'm sick.

I said, okay, me too, but I sucked it up. Dude, I fucking, I went through the neurovirus. You were just at our new bar last night. It was so good. It was so cute. Your whole, I'm like, damn, that's a good picture. Aw. Baddie up there.

Thank you. I'm like, I have the funniest TikTok I'm like, damn, that's a good picture. Yeah. Baddy up there. Thank you. I'm like, I have the funniest TikTok I'm gonna do when we go there tonight, because it's this huge fucking picture of me, right? And all you see is a big ass toe. And it's like, that's not the toe I wanna see. So I'm just gonna be there. I'm gonna be there like,

what made you pick that? I'm just gonna be pointing at it and then just zoom into the toe. I can't wait to do it. What made you pick that one? That's the toe. Oh, everybody's gonna notice the toe toe. I can't wait to do it. I'm gonna pick that one. That's the toe. Oh, everybody's gonna notice the toe now and I can't wait.

It's gonna go viral. Can't fucking wait. But anyways, enough about me. We are here to talk about you, lady. So much has changed since the last time you were here. Last time you were on the show, you were here with your best friend, Kristen. Yeah, I was.

And for anybody who wants to listen to that interview, I forget, I think it's season 6 season 7 Just look for Kristen and Whitney. You can get all their back stories You can hear about how they grew up all that stuff. This interview is gonna be all about the drama. Okay, so No back stories here, but I Want to just say I love you, you know that I love you and I've always had your back and I Hate having to see some of the shit you go through online. It really fucking sucks.

And I think you handle it so good. Is it different now than when you were here last time, how you handle things? Does it hurt as bad? Or is it just kind of roll off your shoulders now? Or do you have to really like process it and take time and like deal with it? Yeah it affected me so much so where like I had to actually go I was going to walk into a mental hospital so it was to the point where I pushed my

boyfriend away I pushed all my friends away like all I was worried about was making money, which shout out to you coming here, like the last time definitely changed my life because I give you credit to all the ideas for everything, for the podcast and everything. So thank you for that. Thank you, I appreciate that. But yeah, like genuinely,

I just think being on social media is like one of the hardest things that you can really do. Like obviously it's not a nine to five and there's not really a lot that you can do like that way. But I just think that now after like seeing that I really don't have much friends anymore and then losing my boyfriend and everything was just put out like on social media. They're judging everything that you do. You say, you walk, you talk. I couldn't even walk outside and somebody not take a picture of me if I was with another guy or anything like that. So it's just like, it gets annoying.

But it definitely affected my brain and the way I thought about things. I thought everybody was out to get me. Everybody wanted to hurt me or use me or everything like that. So once I got medicine and stuff, I kind of just stepped back and was like swallowed a lot. And now I just focus on me and what I wanna do and make myself happy. So you ended up not going to the mental hospital,

but you did get help and they put you on medication. Are you feeling better now? Yeah, I feel better. I feel less irritated. I think I was very overwhelmed with everything that was going on with like the podcast and my friends were hurting me constantly and my boyfriend was up my ass 24 seven.

So it was just like, everything was leading up to like me just breaking. Yeah. And it just pushed everybody away. And I mean, I eventually like see now not everybody has the best intentions for me and my life except for like my family. And there's like one or two people that obviously support me and stuff. But yeah, I feel better now.

Well, I'm glad to hear that. But let's okay. So let's take it back for everybody who is following the story and who knows a little bit about everything. Last time you were on the show, you were here with your best friend, Kristen. You guys were really tight, it seemed like. A lot of us don't know what went on behind closed doors

or how your guys' friendship was behind closed doors. But you guys had a very public friendship and then also a very public breakup. And this was before you were even with Tyler. So we're gonna get into even how you and Tyler got together and that whole situation. But first, let's talk about the BFF. What happened with you and Kristen exactly?

Because I know everybody is so just invested in you guys, it's almost kind of sick. How, and like I'll see grown women that are just like, so you guys are like literally reality TV, which we're gonna talk about the reality TV show too, because you motherfuckers should have came with me. I know. But it's all right.

The future, there's always a future. There's always a second time around. That shit would be fun. But yeah, so what happened with you and Kristen? Take me on that journey and tell me, what happened when you guys left here? You guys started the podcast. Let's start from there.

You guys started the podcast. You guys started doing really good. I was doing a lot for her to be successful. And one thing about me is I always wanna see my friends rise up with me. I never wanna see anybody fall. So I think after that we started the podcast. It was really good in the beginning because it was like we were motivated to

want to make episodes and have people on and stuff. And then towards like the middle of it, it was kind of just me doing it. And I started to get a little bit frustrated because I don't like doing something and you're gonna get 50-50, we're gonna put in the same effort. So I was losing that a little bit. So it started to get me irritated in her plus she got with she started getting with Jacob and I had to motivate her to get up to do things constantly. Like we had a very, very close relationship, like very close.

Like I loved the fuck out of her. Like she was my like ride or die. Like I would do anything for her. And I think it kind of got a little bit like different after her and Jacob got together. So she kind of started, she's a very like one-on-one person. Like if you're, you have to just be one person. She doesn't really have a lot of people around her like that. So-

She's like out of sight, out of mind. Yes. So then when she moved out, we started the podcast, did all that. And then she got with Jacob ever since then. It was kind of like very just like, her personality changed. She wasn't as like clingy to me. So that changed me because like, we were like this. So after that, like her and Jacob got together,

I kind of backed off a little bit because she started like pushing me away. So I was like, it's fine. Then when I got- Did she push you away because Jacob didn't like you? I don't think Jacob liked me the whole time. Why do you think he doesn't like you? Cause I knew he was, he's just very,

like I love them now together. I'm happy for them. I just didn't like the way that I see through people very easily. I can look at somebody and I swear to God I'm psychic. I can look at somebody and just feel because of how much I wanted her to succeed and I loved her so much and I saw everything Rocky put her through. She went through with Connor, her being depressed.

I had to go pick her up from her house. Everything just was, I was just now getting her to where she could stand up on her own. And then Jacob steps in and he, I mean, not to be like that, but he didn't have followers, he didn't have money, he didn't have like, he was with Rachel, so it was just kind of like messy. And I was just very standoffish with him, because I didn't like the past of him. But I obviously accepted him, I was like, he's a good guy, whatever, regardless of his past.

So with them being together, kind of just like, I don't know if he just didn't like me because he knew I saw and I would like, I'd never really made comments. It was just kind of like, why would you do that? Or like, why would you let him do that? So I think he knew that I knew, and like I loved her so much that it seemed like obsessive

because I wanted to be around her all the time. Like she just made me happy. So I think he kind of just never really liked me. I never, we went on vacations and stuff and he never even had conversations with me. Do you think maybe she was telling him stuff when they were you around, which is why he was like that?

Maybe but I don't there was never like I'm very honest and very blunt. So if you have a problem or you're You have something wrong and you gotta tell me or else I won't care. Yeah, I'll still do the same shit and then after me and when me and Tyler got together she got even weirder and like I And then after me and Tyler got together, she got even weirder. And like, I don't know, everything just like fell apart. Like it just with the podcast, like she claimed that we were just more business partners, but I was still in her phone every day checking up on her. Hey, how are you?

How was the baby? Are you good? Are you sick? You need me to bring you anything? Do you want food? Do you want water? Everything like that. Like I was like this,

cause I want her to be my friend so bad. And I don't know why. I just think I've never been around somebody that's so genuinely fun and funny. And we get along very well. So everything just switched. Her personality completely changed when she got with Jacob. So ever since then, I kind of just... You feel like she kind of just left you in the past.

But even hanging out with her recently, the last times we were hanging out with, she's so different. She doesn't really laugh. So it kind of just got to where the baby came, and then she tried to say, like, I'm growing away from you, and then... I don't know. I'm very... I'm a very good friend.

So sometimes, like, things I don't see in front of me, I just want to make people better and I don't know, everything changed. Well, you make jokes about it online and every, there's kind of a rumor that swirls around online. Like, were you in love with Kristen? No. It wasn't ever like.

No. In the beginning, in the beginning, I think like we would, she would make out with me all the time. But I don't know if it was like just her, we would just be drunk and stuff, but we never hooked up or anything. Like it never got to that. She's straight, I'm not into girls like that anymore.

So it was never like that. But I just, I think I fell in love with our relationship, our friendship, because it was so easy to be my sister. Yeah. And I've never really had a sister like that. Yeah, I have my two younger sisters, but they're like, 13 and 10. So it's like, I was never close with that. And then I get weird about about abandonment and stuff like that. So when she just left, I was kinda just like, I get angry when people push me away. So you guys have this huge explosion online. Why do you feel like she attacked you the way she did?

Like what set that off? With which time? I mean, there's a few, so I mean, let's talk about them. Like what is your side of the story with the situations that she presented online to everybody? With like the last few times we talked, she was very like, I don't like, doesn't want me to be around you,

doesn't want you to be around the kids and stuff like that. That's where I was like, okay, this is fucking weird. Like, I would never ever do anything to put you or your family in danger, but I do not like that he made towards my friend. He was, he was, that's just something I do not, I really was cheating.

Are you talking about the situation with the p***? Yeah, I just do not agree with that. What happened in that situation? Okay, so this is actually what happened. It's her birthday. We go out, Kristen stays home, she's pregnant. We go out to the Dylan Scott concert. We all left, we go to the bar drunk.

He was drunk. He kept picking her up. And she had a skirt on, I kept pulling her off of him. Cause it was just, I'm, I do not like that shit. I'm sorry, but if that were Tyler and another girl or something like that, I would, no. And especially me, that's like my best friend sitting at home pregnant and you're gonna do that

in front of my face with another girl? So then we get in the car and they get in the back seat and she kept tapping like get him off me Get him off me So he's like sitting there. They're next to each other he kept putting his hand all over her and kissing her neck and I'm watching this whole thing like It makes me so upset because he was actually kissing her Yes making out with her neck biting her neck like and I'm sitting there watching and grabs me and I said, okay

I'm done. Like I'm not I pull her off I put her to the front and then he was so drunk he didn't remember so the next day I called Kristen and I was like I was like this I didn't want this to come from me because I don't know if remembers it or not but I said I called and I said you need to tell her or you need to call and he needs to apologize to you he needs to apologize to your boyfriend and But I said, I called her and I said, you need to tell her, or you need to call her. And he needs to apologize to you, he needs to apologize to your boyfriend, and he needs to apologize to Kristen. Cuz all of that, I'm watching.

I had to see all of that, and I don't wanna see that and not say anything. And if Kristen found out from somebody else and you didn't tell her, then it would be- Yeah, she would have not, yeah. So all of that, it all came out and... still talked about it. He talked about it constantly, like, it bothered her for a long time. And they're all mad because she came out and talked about it, but she won't admit it because she doesn't want people to be mad at her. But at the end of the day, it's just...

I don't... I don't put up with that shit. I don't, like... I hate when people always say, you cheated, but you cheated. No, like, I broke up with that shit. I don't like, I hate when people always say that you cheated, but you cheated. No, like I broke up with them and then whatever happens after that happens after that. But I just didn't like that, all that happened in front of me and I had to be the one to say something

and then he gets mad at me for the shit he did. Right, well that's usually how it is. Yeah. Yeah, unfortunately. And so I called him out about it and he wants to try me about my relationship. But I snapped. And I was like, you're not going to sit there

and talk about my relationship when you did that to a pregnant girl. And ever since then, she didn't talk to me again. So you feel like she definitely chose you. Yeah. I hate that. Yeah. I mean, if Kristen called you right now and was like, hey, I'm sorry.

No, she already had. Oh. Yeah, that we were now is gonna get into that too. She's, we've talked. She knows that she doesn't like me and that's her man. So I can't do anything about that. So when's the last time you guys talked? Today.

Aw. I texted her and I said, I posted a bunch of TikToks of us, but I still love her. I still care for her. I am happy that she's the baby and stuff. I just, sucks that I couldn't really be like a part of it. Has she apologized to you and said, hey, let's be friends again?

I said sorry to her too, just her overreacting and stuff. Good, I'm glad you guys talked. Cause I am seeing both of you guys hurt, you can tell she doesn't like being without her best friend either. And I feel like every girl, it doesn't matter how much you love your man, you want your friends around too, you know?

And it's hard to just be in just a relationship with your man and your baby every single fucking day. She needs like some sort of like outlet, you know? That's what I say, I'm like, I love my friends. I love having girl time. Like it's so much different. That man doesn't like understand half the shit that girls go through, like a period.

Like they don't even know what that feels like. Yeah, let alone fucking postpartum. Did you ever think that maybe she was going through postpartum with all that shit and it really might have been- I was there for her trying to help very, very much. She never really talked about it with me. We started to get distant. Like, she never really, like, opened up.

She probably didn't even realize she was going through it, because, you know, she is so young and just had a baby, so that shit could have just been affecting her mentally, and she didn't even know it. She could just be, like, just now coming out of it, you know? She says that she doesn't like... Like, she... I was just very overbearing, I think,

with how much I wanted to take care of her. Just even the last, like, even after the baby, I was on... I was in her overbearing, I think, with how much I wanted to take care of her. Just even the last, like, even after the baby, I was on, I was in her phone, like, I wanna come see him. Like, I want you to be there. Like, I wanna take care of you. Like, it was just like an instinct to like wanna be there for her.

And she kept just like pushing and pushing and pushing away. So I kinda just, I gave up. Which hurt you more though too. Yeah, and another thing too is, my own boyfriend was like, you do not need to be friends with her. Yeah, and another thing too is my own boyfriend was like, you do not need to be friends with her. Like she treats you like shit.

So it was like I was... You guys both let boys get in the middle of it. Yeah, like I just... And then plus with the podcast too, it just... That was the only time we would see each other. We were planning dinners and stuff. We would go and do stuff together constantly. And then it just kind of like the baby and I was like,

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Okay, so, see I didn't know that. I don't think you guys even talked about that on the podcast. She didn't really wanna talk about it. I don't think she wanted to be with him like that. How long were they together for? Eight, nine months. Oh wow, so they were together for a minute.

But she was seeing other guys and he was seeing other girls. Yeah. Was that ever weird for you that he was with her before you? Yeah. The whole time. Yeah. But I never, like, I'm not insecure. I don't get bothered with that. No, it's not insecurity, but at the same time, it's kind of like girl code, you know? It's like, fuck.

I know. I tried not to for so long. I was like, I can't help it. I don't know. I just love who he is and what he does and what he stands for. So it just hurt. And I asked her, I pulled her aside too, like before, because we did that TV show thing. Yeah, which what happened with that? Let's go on that journey before the Tyler thing.

I have no idea. So you guys went, okay, because I remember we sent you guys a contract. Yeah. And then that's, and this is, this is, nobody knows this January. Yeah. The nobody knows this. So I sent the girls over a contract and Kristen actually took that contract and took it over

to somebody's house and had it all circled and like made pretty much was making fun of it, which is why I got upset with Kristen. Cause I was like, but then I had to remember that I'm dealing with somebody who's way younger than me. And this is her first time, you know, ever doing any sort of deals and stuff like that. And that's where my my what else happened? Something else happened. MJ called a few people. MJ. Yeah. Yeah. Well, oh, and MJ. I don't know what happened with MJ. She told MJ or something.

Yeah, she was like calling people and telling them about the contract. It wasn't just MJ though. Because I didn't do that, because I didn't want to disrespect. It wasn't just MJ. It was somebody in you guys' circle, and I'm not going to give her up, because I just would never do that to her.

She's always been sweet to me. But she came with receipts and sent me like screenshots. And it was like, and I just couldn't to hear Kristen talk that way and be so fucking disrespectful. Well I was just like, you little bitch. She wants to shit your face. Right, which is fine. And I don't and now I did not have a problem with Kristen like we're fine.

But in that moment I was like, I'm offering you something that's going to really help you guys out and like not try to fuck you guys. And then that's you really help you guys out and like not try to fuck you guys. And then that's, you know, whatever. So you guys ended up signing something with somebody else. No, you guys didn't sign anything? I started it all. You what? I started it all.

Oh, you're talking about the reality show. The reality show. So that was Tyler's parents like met somebody and they- Cause I remember you guys were making videos in some lawyers office. and I was like, this guy looks like a fucking car salesman. They reached out to us and they're like, hey, you guys have moved to Alabama for two weeks,

like film some, some shit, bro. They had cameras on us the whole time, like in our cars, they had the GoPros, they had everything. Like it was like real deal. Yeah. And then like we would do like do, like, the TV show shit where you sit down and do the confessions and all that stuff. Like, we did that shit for two weeks straight.

And I performed and did all this shit, and then it's nowhere to be found. But they're still, like, texting us in group chats, saying, like, it's coming. The sizzle reel's coming. It's been two years, bro. Bitches got pregnant and had a baby by the time that this thing hasn't even edited yet. And you guys have like no rights?

Has anybody looked over the contracts? Yeah, we had like 3% each of us. You guys. Yeah, and it was gonna be like- Mimi's over there dying laughing at you. You guys should have came with us. It was for me, it was kinda like the experience because I don't need money, but like it's just,

I want it to be, I've always liked to act or show. Demand what you're worth though, and that's what I've always tried to instill in you girls. Like don't, if somebody comes to you and offers you 3% of your brand, are you fucking kidding me? Now looking back, I'm like, yeah, cause Taylor was, Taylor Holder was arguing with the guy for a while because he's like, I'm not gonna be in it.

I wanna be in this because my friends want me here. But he's like, I'm not signing this shit for this man. Like he was like pissed. Cause he's done a show before. Yeah, you guys deserve. So he's like, this is bullshit. So then now all of a sudden it's just gone. There's 12 days of footage.

I'm talking like sleeping. Like me and Tyler were sneaking around that whole week. Nobody that we were together and I wish we had that footage because it's like basically like us like falling in love and everybody Finding out and it's just not it's just non-existent. Can you hire a lawyer to get that but we probably could yeah I don't know why you guys wouldn't hire a lawyer to get that footage and look over the contract that you guys signed I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell Tyler because because his mom was the one that had everything arranged, basically, and then all of a sudden, now she's missing. Not shitting on Tyler's mom,

but that was a fucking just a weird situation. They had you guys doing all sorts of social media for it. And then all of a sudden it's gone. And they wouldn't let us post some of the stuff that we were doing. We went and skeet shot did like the duck hunting stuff and we did water balloon fights. We did sumo wrestling.

Like it was so much fun and it's missing. So it's like, it sucks cause I don't wanna watch it. I do know TV takes a long fucking time though. So if they really are- But we didn't have a sizzle reel. Like there was nothing even like presented just at all. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's insane.

I would definitely get a lawyer involved and try to find out what's going on because that's just. Cause you know, you guys have to take it and give it to somebody else and they could edit it and post it. Absolutely. That or you guys could fucking do it yourselves and put it out on YouTube.

Seriously, at this point, I would have edited it 15 times. Yeah, literally. Yeah, I would definitely try to get that footage and see if you guys can get it. But you guys always have, do you always have to sign one bad deal to appreciate the next.

I know, and it sucks because it's, I'm going through like three things right now, because I'm not, I don't put up with people's shit anymore. I'm done. Like I don't, that's why I don't like signing anything with anybody, because they just have the rights to you. What are you going through? And like if I change my mind, like,

I don't want to say it, I'll tell you after. Okay. But just like, like, thank God, I mean, me and Kristin's like podcast thing wasn't like it was as needed. So it was an eyes like messy as it had to be. But I'm still going through that lawsuit with the podcast thing. Oh, I told you guys, man. I said you have to be careful what you guys talk about. I tried so hard to protect you. It was the fact that I would use I didn't even say her name and it's still a thing.

But still like- You're telling her damn story. Money hungry, dude. I know. You can't tell other people's stories. Shit. I've learned a very- Damn it.

I've learned very valuable lessons myself through this journey. It's very, it's, you know, nobody gives you a fucking booklet on how to have a podcast. This podcast, I've had mine since 2019. I was just copying your shit. Still learning shit, girl. Nobody gives you a fucking booklet on how to have a podcast. This podcast, I've had mine since 2019. I was just copying your shit.

Still learning shit, girl. I'll give you all the credit too. I love you. I'm still learning shit, but you just got, you just got really caught up. We started a trend. Yeah, you guys just got really caught up in a bad situation. And now you're, you know, it's a lesson learned

and chalk it up, but. Now I know. Shit, if I were to go back in time, I wouldn't say anybody's name. Yeah. That's all I got to say. Yeah, we don't, I don't say anybody's name anymore. And if I do, I'll bleep it out. Yeah. Like I just,

the only reason we're saying like Kristen's name is stuff like that. She's been on the podcast. She knows that, I'm sure she knows you're coming here and I'm sure she doesn't mind us talking about her because we're not talking about her in a negative light, except for when I was mad at her, but that was fucking years ago we're over it.

And I haven't even had a chance to talk to her about it really. I was gonna wait until I saw her in person. I have, shit, I have so much to tell her and she will not talk to me. Towards the end of our breakup, we, like, nothing was even talked about in person. So it was like frustrating because I wanted to just have

a conversation with her and be adults. Dude, I'm fucking six years old. What are we doing? Yeah, that's hard whenever you want to communicate and that other person's not open to communicating. I'm your sister, dude. Like, I'll be here till the end. I don't give a fuck what you did. If you killed my rabbit, I would still be your friend. No. Don't be killing any sister, dude. Like I'll be here till the end. I don't go fuck what you did. You killed my fuck. My rabbit would still be your friend.

No, don't be killing any rabbits, buddy. Um, well, I'm glad that you and Kristen are talking again though, because I really feel like you guys will find each other again. And I knew that whenever I, anytime I see like little friendship breakups on line, I'm like, this is, they'll, they'll be back together. It just takes time and all friends have to go through that shit. You guys have to kind of like learn each other's boundaries and like how far the other one will go. And like, you know, there's just a kind of like a pecking

order, I guess you could say a hundred percent. So let's talk about this relationship with Tyler. You guys start filming this reality show. You guys are falling in love behind the scenes. Did Kristen know like who knew? To be honest, I think creation is the only one that knew. I feel like creash harbors tons of secrets for everybody. And you don't say shit.

I know he's such a little OG. Yeah, he's really sweet. He's been through a lot. He's young, so I hope he can find a girl that just loves the shit out of him, because he deserves it. Yeah, he's fine. Oh, and Kayden, where the fuck has Kayden gone? Fucking making music, I think.

Yeah. He calls me randomly, and I'm like, you look different. Yeah, he just texted me the other night. He's like, are you at your bar? I'm like, no. I'm like, where did you? I wanted to be like, where have you been? Yeah, seriously.

He'll call me randomly and be like, miss you. And I'm like, thanks. Yeah. Miss you too. Where have you been? Yeah, seriously. They'll call me randomly and be like, miss you. And I'm like, thanks. Yeah. Miss you too, where have you been? Yeah, like he doesn't even post on TikTok anymore or anything. But no one really knew. Okay, so I had another boyfriend for like two weeks. The guy with the fish necklace?

No, different one. Okay. She said no. It was Jesse, the horse rider. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I remember him. The rodeo guy, yeah. But it was only two weeks. Why did it seem so much longer?

But she tried to ask me out three days after I met him. I was like, whoa, you live in fucking BFE. We gotta chill. So I was dating him at the time and I went to Golf Coast Jam and Tyler's always like, me, he's always made comments about like my ass and like how hot I am and stuff. So it was like, he just always did that.

That's sweet little Tyler. He wanted to show me his little reality show. He was flirting with a girl on TV and I was like, oh, he's cute, whatever. And then from there, I think we kind of just were hanging out, he would fly down to me and like hang out with me, but he would show me like more how much of a gentleman he was. Like me and him weren't even together.

He drove me 10 hours to Alabama and we drive back. Like he like was just very caring. Like he cares about other people more than himself. So like I would notice that cuz I mean obviously we were friends for like two years before that but nobody knew and when we all went to this Luke Combs concert and he came but I don't think that we talked about us being together at all like we didn't we I just didn't want to sneak it into existence yet because like I didn't even know. So I was with my other ex T Tate, at the Luke Kohn concerts and he was a little jealous.

Tate's all over the fucking internet right now too. I know, yeah, I saw that. He better not, because I don't know, I like his girl, Lindy. Oh, she's hot. She's fucking gorgeous. She don't like me, but I love her. I still watch her stuff, she's so cute.

She's gorgeous, and I think she's got a great personality. Yes. You know, like she just. So that night, nobody knows this, but me and Tyler made out in the pool. We didn't talk about it after. While you were there with Tate? After that, yeah. Me and Tate, we weren't like, we just, I've known him for so long.

We were always on and off. We just kind of would hook up and not date and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That night, me and Tyler made out, but we didn't talk about it. We didn't tell anybody. We literally just didn't. And then it didn't happen again So till the show rock the south

He went up to one of my friends and was like tell her I like her just to see what she would say that ever since then like We were like inseparable and Then that's when my like so we were together for nine months, I wanna say. And we were talking about like getting married. So that kind of scared me a little bit, but I also like the thought of like being married and like doing things together,

but I'm also very, because I lost my dad, I definitely have like a wall still with anybody. And just like not fully giving myself to somebody and making them my partner. Like I just don't have this idea in my brain of like, they're going, like I always have like, they're gonna leave. They're gonna leave. Like I just immediately just always have this thought in my head like they're not gonna stay forever.

So why am I gonna share all of this? Like even thinking about sharing a bank account with somebody, I just like, it doesn't reach my mind, just like there's no way, it's not possible. So he was wanting to get married, we were going to, he was gonna propose to me. And it kinda scared me a little bit. So, and then mentally I was going through the stuff with Kristen, the lawsuit, with Bri,

there's just so many things that were like, the big new house, I had fucking 10 dogs. Like it was just, everything was building up and I just needed to just fart out loud. It was just like, yes. And then I started to mentally go insane. And he is young, he hasn't really been through a lot. Like I've lost, I mean, a few people in my life,

people have died, I've gone through the divorces. I've gone through drugs, porn, fucking addictions. Like, I've seen it all. So for me, like, things trigger me fast. So when somebody's overstimulating me so much, it starts to piss me off. And I get very angry and upset, and I don't know what to do with myself.

Like, it makes me want to, like, actually wake up and just kill somebody. Like, it drives me insane. So I told him, I was like, you need to go home, focus on yourself. I still wanna be with you, but he just didn't understand me. And it's hard, I don't even understand me.

But I knew I needed to get help. And he wasn't helping me by questioning my mental stability. I was already gonna fall. I don't wanna bring you with me. So I broke up with him and I sat in the car writing a text to him because I tried to break up with him a week before because I was like, I don't know what to do.

I either have to leave you because you don't understand me or I have to literally go to a hospital for you to understand how fucked up I am right now. Like you're not understanding. And I was horrible. Like I couldn't even, like I looked happy and like that's why I was so confused because I looked so happy and I just,

I could not, I couldn't do it anymore. Like I loved Tyler so much that I couldn't bring him down with me. And I sat in the car with him. I actually talked to Kristen for a little bit. Kristen was like, you should probably break up with them. I talked to you saying said the same thing. And then ended up switching on you.

Yeah, we're gonna bleep her name because she doesn't even deserve the notoriety. I met her that one time and I did not love her energy. A lot of people. Yeah, but I was the only one that did. So that fucked me over too. But after that, I sat with her and I'm bawling my eyes out and I'm like, dude, I don't know what to do.

He didn't want me to break up with him. He was trying to convince me not to. And it was like, I can't control myself. I don't know what, I'm gonna, I wake up, I was crying to him for a good month every day because I was so mean to him. And I was like, I don't know what's going on with me. I was like, I don't know how you haven't even left me yet because I'm so, I was so mean to him. And I was like, I don't know what's going on with me. I was like, I don't know how you haven't even left me yet

because I'm so, I was so mean to him and I didn't know why. And so it was my anxiety, I have OCD, I have PTSD, I have everything you could name like in my brain and nothing to know what to talk to. So I ended up just like, just, I went fucking, I don't even know. You're like, let me just drop this bomb right here. Right there, and nobody knew.

Cause I just, it was just one day, I just flipped the switch and I was like, I'm done. Like I can't. And I went haywire. I went fucking. You just reached a breaking point. And like, I didn't want to see him because I didn't want to hurt him.

So that's what happened with the cops, the cop call, whatever. Yeah. I told him not to show up in my house. Like I was so fucked up that I could not like mentally see him. I didn't want to give him back his stuff because I wanted to be with him.

It just, I needed to get right first. So I ended up doing that. A lot of chaos happened. Fuck with the police calls and then a lot of shit's going down with my family. And then let's just, for the people who don't know what's going on, all of this was playing out on social media.

So like literally every breath you took was just- Oh, my phone call, my police call was posted online. That was so fucked up. I literally, that was like, that was like when my anxiety was at its peak and I just was, I didn't know what to do. Like I physically had no other option because I was so scared of everything that was going on

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indifferent either way because tiktok is such a stepping stone and it's amazing for some things but on the other side advertising for me that's my yeah but on the other side, I've seen it just ruin people's lives and like tear them down. And I mean, the shit that you and Kristen and fucking Tyler and all of them go through, like in that circle is crazy. And the craziest part is like, aside from us being online,

there's so many people that I know in real life that do the same shit and they don't get hate for it cause they're not online. But it's like, I see like people don't get hate for it because they're not online. Right. But it's like I see like people stealing people's baby daddies. They're not getting fucked over. Like they're not getting, who cares? Yeah. Who gives a shit?

But like because it's online, it's just such a big deal. Like you... Well, it's because you have people that are at home that... And this isn't me being rude. It's just people that don't... They stay at home moms. Yeah. And it's like they're living their lives vicariously

through you guys, which to me, a 30 and 40 year old woman living their lives through you guys is already fucking weird to me. I would never do that. Like I'm 45 years old. I love you like a little sister and I'm proud of you for what you do but I'm not gonna like live my life through you.

I look at myself and I'm like, how the fuck? Like they'll literally take like my screenshots, like my Snapchat and like zoom in and be like, she's wearing those kinds of nails on that day. That means that they fucked. Like it's just weird. That's how I know about the fish necklace thing. I saw it like a video popped up and they're like,

he has the same fish necklace on as her. And I'm like, are you kidding me? There's so many times I want to just talk shit on these TV. It doesn't be like, are you guys fucking okay? No. Who needs a hug? I'm handing them out, you know, but you just can't because then you feed their fuel.

And it's funny because what actually really gets me really is the T pages that have mental, like they're going through mental shit by posting my life. Like you're going through shit shit by posting my life. Like you're going through shit because you're getting hate for posting what the fuck I'm doing. Yeah. That's weird. Like imagine how I feel.

Yeah. You're posting what I'm doing. Imagine how I feel. I get to double the hate, but thank you for posting, man. It's giving me a clout. But like, It's hurtful all around. So let's go back to this.

You made the phone call to the cops when Tyler showed up at your house and you asked him not to. When you were in the house, your ex was in there with you. Okay, why was he in there with you, Whitney? Okay. So 4th of July, you go to the bar, okay? He shows up.

He's there hanging out with his friends. By the way, he is not hot. No, he's not. Okay. I'm like, you are way too beautiful for that. He put me through a lot of shit too. I think it was more like an out to make it feel like a validation type of thing because I knew he was going to come back to me like anytime I wanted.

And I don't know why I hurt Tyler like that. I was just dumb. But. You were having what sounds like kind of like a nervous breakdown. Oh, it's terrible. You just lost your best friend. You are dealing with a fucking heavy lawsuit,

which is scary. You are, I think you lost Brie at the time too, or were you guys beefing? I might've been like right before. Okay. But it was just like everything was just like not working. Yeah. And then it got worse from there.

So. She's like, that's not it. So wait, we're figuring out why, I don't want to say his name, but Fishboy. Why Fishboy was in the house. So that day from the bar, we leave, okay. Let me just, I'm not going to point fingers, but there was somebody that basically invited him

to the house. Did I say no? No, because I don't care. I'm single now. Like what the fuck? I don't care. And I wanted like validation, I think, whatever. We ended up to-

An ego stroke. There was four of us that went back to the house and then that was just the first day. And like, it's for me, I like to have like a backup plan. Like, so whenever like something goes wrong, I always have like a backup plan. And he was like my backup plan, because I was just like, I don't know, dumb.

I talk about that in my book. I used to triangulate men all the time. And just keep them around. Like it just was like a, like a, come on. Yeah. So. And just keep him around like it just was like a like a fuck come on. Yeah so Yeah, and he was there and Two days later We go on the boat the only other person that has

Driven my boat. I bought this boat, okay? This is my boat, but I don't drive it. I have other men drive it for me. So because I didn't have a boyfriend at the time, I called my ex because I knew he could drive a boat. He drives a boat. We go out during the day, whatever. I need somebody to call.

No, it was like a huge group of us. Were you guys hooking up at all? No. No. No. There's cameras on you, Whitney. Yeah, I think everybody knows by now. Yeah, it was just one. It was just one. It's like a recollection type of thing.

Had to like selective memory. Can't remember it. And then I remember why I broke up with him too. Oh no. Yeah. The third day after the boat, I was like, I need someone to clean the boat. I'm not going to go home and clean the boat myself. So he comes back, cleans the boat.

Tyler's texting me throughout that day that morning. He flew all the way down from Alabama to get his stuff. Okay. Then he had like a passport and maybe like a bunch of clothes. And he wanted this damn dog crate that he gave to me. I was like, fuck it. I said, do not show up to my house. I will call the cops on you.

Like, I don't care. Like, it was just like, it was a boundary thing, I think, because I knew he was trying to overset my boundary. And for me, I get anxiety when people don't respect me. I understand that. So he was like, I'm showing up to your fucking house, blah, blah, blah, I'm like, no, the fuck? So he pulls up.

I knew he was coming. So I think I had kept my ex there just in case anything happened. Did I want Tyler to know that he was in there? No, but I knew he either way he was gonna find out. I mean, what am I gonna lose? I already broke up with him. So it was like, I had nothing to lose at that point.

The only reason that he knew that he was in there was because my ex walks in the fucking garage just playing with the dogs and there's no, there's a full window just open. And he's, I guess Tyler was just looking in there. I was like, dude, fucking moron. So then the cops came, whatever. They tried to, like, they were asking me if I wanted to like press charges on like, like the cops came, whatever, they tried to like,

they were asking me if I wanted to like press charges on like, like the trespassing or whatever. And I was like, no, because I know he's gonna come back. Like, I know I'm gonna be with him again. I just was going through shit. So um, yeah, he was in the house. I call I ended up calling because I was like freaking out because I bro at this point Tyler was like on edge too See he's like that too. He gets a little So he's on edge he

Brings him and Taylor over I thought that someone was gonna fight somebody because he sat outside my house like two and a half hours I was like Taylor by the way. Yeah We we I Thought he was gonna leave when I gave him the passport. No, he didn't leave. He just sat outside. So I think he was gonna stay. He was probably gonna sleep outside. You were gonna, you were breaking his heart. I know I did. And he loves you. I apologize. I think more, more times than I, than I. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys go through this big debacle with the police call, the breakup, and then Tyler kind of starts living his best life online. And like, I don't know. He was still on my phone the whole time.

Yeah. He was still like texting me. We did try to, I tried to get back with him after like when meds start kicking in. So this is like August. I love that for you. I'm like, fuck. I'm like, I need him back.

So like mid August, I had a show. He was supposed to show up. You guys have been broken up for how long? How long's mid August? Two months. Two months, okay. So yeah, he had already been having his little. He was telling me he wanted to get back with me, whatever.

Like I wouldn't sell him. Is he in Montana boy now now because why is he hanging out? I think jaden is though They're all a little like They're wilding out. I mean let me tell you they're having their fun good. They deserve to as they should as they should I mean you're in montana. What the fuck else you gonna do? Is Jaden in Montana too? No. Oh, okay. I think he just likes to. Jaden just likes to name. Yeah.

He likes that they're all attracted. He likes to make a guest appearance. Yeah, he's like, he knows that they're all attracted. They can get whatever they want. So mid, okay, so like mid August, where he's supposed to come to my show, he ends up going to Vegas and lies to me. He doesn't tell me.

He ends up getting with somebody, calls me. And that's the first time I, he knew about my ex. So I was like, okay, he gets a whole past. So this whole time you weren't hooking up with anybody else. So that last time you hooked up with Fishboy. That one time I was like, I'm never doing that again. Never did that again.

Cause my ex went online and was like, yeah, fuck her, but I was like, okay, you're disgusting. Oh, yeah. Don't you hate dudes like that? Yeah, like you're a little drunk. Like stop. But I mean, any dude to be like, hey, I fucked this girl and go online and say that, like, that's so gross.

Yeah, I'm like, so that's the first time I ever heard of him getting with somebody. I was like, fuck. It hurt? Yeah, I cried for like a week and I was like, okay, well, I can't really be upset because I did break his heart. How did you find out?

Because he didn't. He called me and told me. Oh, okay, so he was ready. He was like, hey bitch, here's a heart dart back. He's like, hey bitch, yeah. Instead of coming to your show, I actually fucked somebody, so thank you. Oh, he fucked her.

Yeah, I was like, wow. Who was it? No idea, he said he didn't know who it is. Good for Tyler. I was like, period. I didn't know who it is. Good for Tyler. I was like, period. I was like, was it good? Good for Tyler. He got his little heart broke and was like,

you know what, I'm gonna go find out that. He got me back. So then after that, some shit went down with him and Kristen with the whole, like, he... Yeah, cause he was hanging, cause it didn't Romeo somehow get in the mix too. Like where did he fucking come from? And then like Tyler and Romeo were there at the same time.

I don't remember. I think he just wanted to like piss me off. Everything he was doing is just trying to piss me off. And I was like, dude, you're doing a great job. But him, are him and Jacob friends? Yeah. Tyler and Jacob and are him and Kristen friends? Yeah.

Okay. So I guess Tyler, I'm guessing, didn't tell them. He'd never really told anybody like that he was still talking to me because he's really, he likes his image and that's fine. He's young and like he cares what people say about him. He does, especially his parents and especially his friends. And like, even when we were together, his friends always had something to say about me

and blah, blah, blah, which they still do. Like last night we had to have a talk with Jayden because he was like, I don't care if you guys are together, but just work it out. But, which I understand. Well, they're probably looking out for their friend because they don't want him to be in this car.

Yeah, no, I respect that. But don't be a dick. Like, you know, like if he wants to be with me, he's gonna be with me. Don't be a fucking asshole because they don't want him to get his heart broken again. I respect that, but don't be a dick. Like, you know, like, if he wants to be with me, he's going to be with me. Don't be a fucking asshole. You don't need to shoot him like shit. Like, he's going to make himself happy, whether he's with me or not.

Yeah, obviously he's tried to move on. You guys have both tried to move on and you keep coming back to each other. Yeah, so the situation that I was, I blocked Tyler, I was like, I am fucking done, was when he went to Kristen and told her that I was begging him to talk, begging him to talk to me or else I was going to kill myself.

And she went online and said that. And I, I was, that was when I was like going through so much shit and she sat there knowing how much I was going through. And I sat there and did the same thing with her in the beginning of when we were friends. I was so distraught. I was like, bro, this bitch did not just fucking go online and say that disgusting mental health

that my mental health is fake and all this bullshit. I was like, whatever. And then she also said I was pregnant or something about me saying I'm pregnant to keep him around when... Come on. You know he's still talking to me every fucking day. Like let's not be surprised. But I was just so upset about like one... Was there a pregnancy? No, I thought. But I took a test. I never said I was pregnant. I literally just said, hey, like my boobs are, I'm gonna take a test. I never said I was pregnant. I literally just said hey like my boobs are I'm gonna take a test and then somehow fucking goes around everywhere

But I asked she was living with me and she gave me a pregnancy test and it was negative and I sent it to him And I was like, hey like that I don't know if like it's just early to say or something But like I'm just letting you know like I haven't had my period whatever so I sent it to him And he was fine. Like he didn't like make a huge deal about it. And then like two weeks later I was like, hey, didn't make a huge deal about it. And then like two weeks later I was like, hey, I'm still feeling the same way. I think my birth control was just messed up or whatever.

But when we had hooked up, when we weren't together, that was when I was kind of scared a little bit. So, but that's, I guess he just used that against me and was like, you know, she's fucking only talking to me because she thinks she's pregnant. Like that shit's not funny to me. I don't like that. Because I don't want people to know that.

And if I was, you just fucking outed me. Thank you. Right. It's weird. I would never do that to you. I would never ever say any of that stuff online, ever. But that all went down. I blocked him.

I was like, fuck you. I tried to move on. Me and my manager were hanging out extra. We were like, I was single, I was vulnerable, I didn't really care. So me and him were hanging out, whatever. I go to Georgia, which is when me and Tyler, we loved Georgia, going to Georgia together, he had his own ATV there. My stepdad and my mom love him so much. Like he like they want me to

marry him. We go there and he calls me randomly. He was talking to somebody else. He calls me and goes, I can't be I don't want to be with anybody else. Like I can't I try to talk to other people like he was talking to another girl on TikTok. And he was like, I can't stop thinking about you, whatever. But I'm like, I'm with my manager in Georgia. So I'm like, fuck. So I'm like. Were you hooking up with the manager? Yeah.

Because the manager's cute. Yeah. Okay. It wasn't even my manager, I never signed anything with him. He just helped me manage my life basically. And like he booked me shows, but like, I don't care to hide anymore. I'm not gonna sit here and like lie.

Like I don't, yeah. So. I'm not gonna sit here and lie. Yeah. So... Go off. But me and Tyler weren't together, but he was still calling me and stuff. And I did still see him. But I wasn't gonna end up with my manager. It wasn't... He's... No. So, yeah. Ever since then, we've been on and off, whatever.

I told him about the manager and he was really upset, which is understandable, whatever, because I did lie to him. But I just didn't want him to do what he did. And he went online, but with it. And I just I didn't want that to happen. You didn't trust him. Yeah. You guys are going to have to rebuild each other's trust again. This is going to take a really long time for both of you.

Yeah. You guys did a lot of damage, you know, so it's. I hate that. I hate it because but the thing is is if I didn't do that, I wouldn't be stronger. I wouldn't step back and know like, this is what you don't do in a relationship. And this is the mental health that you did go through. I want to make sure I am mentally stable

to be with somebody like you. I've never been with anybody like that where they're actually like not toxic and they want to love me and they want to give everything to me. And I'm still like, like, so it's just hard because I'm so toxic my whole life, everything that I've done and seen has been toxic. So it's like Tyler steps in my life.

And it's just perfect. Like, it's just like, he's just doesn't argue, he doesn't want to argue with me, wants to take care of me. So it was like really hard to see it. To let him love you. And now the meds kind of like straighten me out a little bit where I'm like nicer. I still get overstimulated a little bit, but.

But now we're hanging out and we definitely have fully back together. No, not yet. What's keeping you guys from being fully back together? Because I feel like you guys are together all the fucking time. I think we are. We just haven't. I don't know. He's testing the waters a little bit.

Yeah. How long has it been that you guys have been hooking back up again? I don't even know. What's today? The 18th, right? 90th? Oh, let me just... Okay, I'm going to tell you this because I don't give a fuck. Fuck, my manager had a fucking girlfriend the whole time. No.

Yeah. So the fuck, the motherfucker, we go to Turks. He takes me to Turks with his fucking family. And I'm like, he like, he's like trying to date me. He's like, you can't talk to Tyler, like, blah, blah, blah. I was still talking to Tyler around here. I told Tyler I wanted to be just friends. He knew I was with the manager.

Like Tyler knew he just didn't, he stood off. He didn't say anything, whatever. He just let me be me. I go to fucking out of the country with this kid. He had a girlfriend at his house, watching his dogs cleaning his house, and I had no idea. Did she know about you? She knew about me, and he just told her

that we were just working together. I said, the fuck? You take your client to Turks with your family without and stay in the same bed. Come on. Oh my god. So this girl's like delusional and she's like posting me and like we get there a week a day before he goes. I don't know if you should go. And I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, I'm ready. I'm ready to walk the beach.

Like, I don't care. I'm ready to get drunk. Like, no. So he's being weird. He's like, I don't have anybody else to watch the dogs. So I need to have my ex watch the dogs. And I was like, okay. It's actually his ex.

She had like a pregnancy scare apparently, whatever with that. And they were still talking. I don't know, I didn't really get the whole spiel. We get on the plane, she fucking posts, rah rah rah, while we're flying, Christmas with the dogs. Why was she at your house on Christmas?

That's weird. Well, I'm just gonna say that's where you guys, I don't know. Maybe she just stopped by the drop the toys off for them. Okay, okay, we get there. This is like two, three days in, like we would already hooked up, like whatever. Three days in, this morning, yes. Text, I text the girl, because she's posting about me and shit. Like she's like posting like the dogs and all this stuff and I'm like, okay, are you

with me? What's she saying about you though? She would say, basically call me a homewrecker. Oh, okay. Basically, and I had no idea. I'm so confused though, because if he told her that he was going with a client, how are you a homewrecker?

I don't know. Oh, I think I posted before. I think I posted in the morning something like, like just using a sound and she thought it was about her, I think, so she posted something towards me and goes, she made a comment and it was like, we are together and his whole family knows it. And he's like kissing me in front of his parents.

So I was like, okay, clearly she doesn't know. Those are the worst families. Like they just don't care. Yeah, the dude cheats. Your son is literally has two girlfriends right now. What are don't care. The dude cheats. Your son is literally has two girlfriends right now. What are you doing? Yeah, that's terrible. So we're at lunch, like we're chilling.

Like I make smart remarks, but he's such a gas layer. He would just like lie, like lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. And this motherfucker has passwords to all my shit, logins to all my shit, booking me shows. Whitney, why do you trust people so much? I don't know. Stop fucking doing that, man. I know.

You have built a brand for yourself and you just hand it over to people. You're like, here's the keys. I know, pisses me off, cause that is nice. Just drive off with my shit. I want them to be successful and make money like me. So he, I text the girl and I said, hey, I don't know if you guys are together

or whatever's going on. I have no idea what's going on, but if you guys are together or whatever is going on. I have no idea what's going on. But if you guys are together, he's cheating on you. That's all I'm gonna say. She texted me a screenshot. He texted her that morning and said, post on your TikTok to beef with her. Get famous, get Clow, and he said, fuck her. Talk about me.

Are you kidding me? Jeez, where did you meet this? He goes, use her for Clow, beef with her so you can get famous and make fucking money. Where did you meet this person? He messaged me on Instagram and said, Whitney. Whitney.

He said, I wanna book you shows. So he booked me shows and then I started hanging out and then I was like, shit, I'm bored. I mean, he was attractive. Yeah, he's cute. Okay, but Whitney. You're not cute enough if you're doing all that type of shit.

You gotta stop, babe. You gotta really like, if you want to build something, you can't just have people DMing you and then handing over your shit to them. So the whole fear of learning lessons. So the whole point of the story was that happened. I said, fuck you, I'm never talking to you again. Do not text me again.

I call Tyler and I'm bawling my eyes out. He knows, he was not, he knows. He goes, I'm so sorry. Like you want me to help you book a flight? Like I'll help you do whatever. And that's what I knew. I'm like, this motherfucker loves me. Like, what am I doing?

I'm literally with another guy and he's still talking to me, he loves me. So a week goes by. I think I flew to Bama first. I think I did first or he came to me. No, I don't know, my mind's gone. But yeah, and that's how, and he forgave me after all that. Which is fucking crazy, because I could never,

but he loves me. And his family's getting a little better with me. And it sucks because I basically made myself look fucking stupid because of how I felt without just being honest about it and like could have just not. I feel like everybody deserves a chance and you had your crash out, now you're not allowed to have another one.

You gotta just stay, communicate. If you feel like you're going towards that feeling again, just be like, hey man, I'm starting to feel like I did before and we need to figure out something together because Because now you guys are in a relationship, figure this shit out as a couple. Instead of you feeling like you have to fight your battles all alone by yourself, do it with him. That's what a life partner is all about.

If you guys are gonna be together. Sometimes I don't understand that. Like, it's just because I know people leave and people abandon, but he's like so not like that. I don't know why. He's got good parents, it seems like. It's still in my head. I'm like...

Like, he even told me before, like, when we first almost broke up, he was like, I just, I don't feel like your partner. I feel like your roommate. Because I would just, he was just there. And like, his stuff was in another room. Like, it wasn't his room or his house. It was like, I made him feel like a guest.

You know what I'm saying? You're self-sabotaging because you're so afraid to get hurt Like it wasn't his room or his house. It was like, I made him feel like a guest. You know what I'm saying? You're self sabotaging because you're so afraid to get hurt that you're hurting people before they can hurt you. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta stop doing that. Yeah, let love in, WitWit.

Kay, just let Tyler love you. You deserve to be loved. I love him. He's my best friend. I saw you whenever you weren't with him. And I, you know. I was a. He's my best friend. I saw you whenever you weren't with him. And I, you know. I was a crash out. Two different people.

Yeah. You were just kind of like not yourself. Yeah. I just like that he protects me too. Like just everything with everything. He wants to take everything that I have and make it his. No. Like even my fucking dogs.

That's amazing. Who the fuck has 15 dogs? Who the fuck has 15 dogs? Who the fuck has 15 dogs? Shit, I'm one up every time because I know when I get home, I'm gonna get another one. No, why? I'm kidding. Okay, can we talk about this?

What is going on with the 15 dogs? I love them. I've always grown up not being able to have dogs. I love dogs too. I don't know what it is, but I have like addiction. It's just like, I see how much of a good life I can give them and I want to give it to all of them. Okay, so I get that. But don't you think you should have like a little like doggy sanctuary and not in a house? None of them jump in that pool like in large and

Oh, they do. But I have an assistant now. She's like my full time like roommate assistant. So she takes care of, they do. But I have an assistant now. She's like my full time roommate assistant. So she takes care of him every day. But God, I couldn't pay me enough to take care of 15 dogs. That's a herd. She loves them. No, but they're easy. They're they're easy. Er, if I had three, but I don't know, I just.

What is that? What does that show? My strange addiction? That's what you should go on for the dogs. I would have a hundred. Are you gonna be like that with kids too? Just start popping kids out left and right? Maybe if they turn out looking like me, I will. They're gonna be so cute.

I think if you and Tyler have babies together, they're gonna be beautiful babies. They're gonna be short, but they're gonna be cute. Aw, we stay on a short king. I always forget Tyler's kinda short. I think he's like, I actually like... You're tiny. Yeah, I'm small, so maybe I shouldn't look at that. That's why when I see people online

like say stuff about your weight, I'm like, are they out of their minds? Then they see me in person. That is the number one comment I get in person. You were so small. Thank you. You're so tiny. I'm like, you could ask my weight

and you can look up my weight and height. I'm pretty sure it says five, six. You're not five, six. You're liar. I'm like you could ask my weight and you can look up my weight and height I'm pretty sure it says five six. You're not I'm five one. Yeah, I'm like you there's no way My bro chill out cares even if I was normally when people are five one They don't have a fucking shitter on that critter like you do. So I think that thanks mom. I think that's where I think that's where people are You know get misconstrued But anytime I see something I'm trying to like shame you on your weight I'm like, do they know how tiny this girl is like she is tiny tiny. Yeah, they're always like you're so small

Every single every single person you're either you're so much hotter in person or that's a really small I actually I don't get you're so much hotter. Oh, I get you're prettier in person or yeah. You're even prettier in person. And I don't know how to take that. You're pretty in person. Fuck you. I don't know how to take that though. I'm like, thanks.

I know I'm like, am I ugly online? Do I live road hard and put away online? Like what the fuck is happening? Like, I don't get it. And you're tall too. How tall are you? I'm about five, six, five, seven. Okay, you're not that tall.

I thought you're taller. Well, I'm always in heels. So when I'm in heels, I'm like five, six, five, seven. Okay, you're not that tall. I thought you were taller. Well, I'm always in heels. So when I'm in heels, I'm like five, 10. You're still lettuce. Yeah, but today I've got the slides on. One more thing I wanted to talk to you about, and is there anything else that we missed in that whole debacle?

I tried to get like the major. Other than Brie. Yeah, what happened with Brie? So she was like what, your manager or assistant? She was just my best friend. I wanted her to make money. She did my OnlyFans. Like she just helped me a lot.

Are you still doing OnlyFans? Mm-hmm. Just not as much. I was doing it with like an agency, but I didn't sign anything. So I cut them off because it had something to do with the other manager. So I was like, I'm not gonna be associated.

Stop fucking giving people access to your shit. I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. How's OF doing for you? I feel like OF is like so part of the past now. I just don't, what pisses me off is that I don't wanna do nude, but it's all over the internet anyways. So it just makes me, I don't change my face.

Did you hire that company that I told you about? Yes, but bro, they take down so many links, but there's so many and there's nothing you can do about it. And it makes me so mad because I want to stop it because I want to be with Tyler and just be with Tyler. Well, if you stop it, the images will stop producing. They're the same old ones. They're not the new ones because my face isn't anything.

Other than like, I don't sell tapes or anything anymore. So it's like, I cut all that, like the actual bad stuff off. Yeah. But like- The best thing I ever did was give up my OF. It was the scariest thing for me because it was a huge chunk of money for me for a month. And I do miss getting dressed up in lingerie

and doing lingerie shoots. Loki, it actually turns me on. Yeah, well getting dressed up and like being in front of the camera, yeah, because it's like you fall in love with yourself. I look hot. And it teaches you to be like sexy and like it's an outlet.

Yeah, so I totally get that. It was the best thing I ever did because it opened up so many other doors for things. You don't realize how much OF hinders you until you get rid of it. And then all these opportunities start coming in. They're like, well, we were just waiting for you to close your only fans. And we're like, why didn't you fucking say something two years ago?

You know, like so. And what's crazy is God really blesses you when you start trying to do the right thing. And I know that sounds crazy, but I remember sitting in my backyard before I gave up my OF and I just prayed to God and I was like, Lord, if I'm making the right decision, just please show me that I'm making the right decision. And I ended up like tripling my money. I've literally been doing that. And I'm like, Oh my God. I'm like, I'm like, I pray every night. I'm like, it's because I think I have so much to pay for so much because I went out of my way to like get this huge house and like, I I make money on Snapchat and stuff.

But it's just a thought in my head knowing that I'm not going to have that. So I want something else to come in and replace it. It will once you close it. I want to do music. I want to fall in love. And Tyler is 100% affected by it. He tries not to say anything, but the one thing that he does say is like, why don't, it's not that I don't respect myself. It's like, how is this so easy for you?

Like, how do you just take pictures and make these videos and it just not affect you when it's online? And like, I always think about that. And I'm like, it does affect me. I just swallow it. Like, I literally just swallow it. It just like, it does affect me. I just swallow it. I literally just swallow it. It just like, and I've seen so much stuff growing up with like prostitutes with my dad, prostitutes

and strippers and drugs and a bunch of these hoochy mamas show up and just twerk in front of me that nothing fazes me anymore. And it sucks because I am numb. Like I'm so numb to most of the stuff that I do. That's why it's so easy for me to like walk away from stuff like that. But one thing I'm big on is drugs.

I will not ever, ever, ever agree with that stuff. But I don't know, it's just, I'm numb to it. And everybody always asks me, how do you not like, because I see like this fucking girl, Sophie Rain, 50 million. Yeah. Are you kidding me? I always think that those numbers are a little embellished, but I mean, it's, it's well, she also looks like a child. Yeah.

So I don't want some knockers, but I'm scared. The problem is, is that, you know, the adult industry is so big now. It's so big, but it's also so gross because men want girls that look really young. I know, I don't ever stop. Huh? It'll never stop.

Oh no, porn and prostitution, well not porn, but prostitution has been around since the biblical days. And prostitution is a form of porn also, so I guess you could say yeah. But I mean, it's been around since the biblical days. Sex sells, so does alcohol. So those two things are never gonna go away. You just have to decide when it's gonna go away

in your life. And I promise you when you, and I'm not preaching to you because you guys know I support all my sex worker girlies. I've been thinking about this. So this is hitting me. I support all my sex worker girlies. And trust me, if I ever have to go back to OF, I will. If I ever need to make a quick bag

and I get in a position to where I have to do that, I will definitely do it. But as for right now, like when you wanna get rid of it, get rid of it and just know that you can always go back to it. Just see how it is for six months to a year without it and see how much your life changes and what blessings come in without it.

Just so you don't have to have that, that feeling inside. Yeah, of like, fuck. Every time I pray, this is so funny to talk about because I've been thinking about this for so long. Every time I pray about it, when I say like, you know when you pray, you're like, Jesus forgive me for my sins.

That's immediately what I think about. Cause I'm literally doing exactly what I'm telling myself to forgive me for. And it's like, obviously like all sins are equal and we do the same stuff over and over again. It's like, I'm literally still doing it. Like why am I even asking for forgiveness if I'm still gonna do it?

My prayer was always, Lord, I know that I'm sinning right now, but I know you understand why. I used to try to gaslight Jesus. I'm like, I know, you know that I'm sinning right now, but I know you understand why I used to try to gaslight Jesus I'm like, I know, you know, I'm doing this right now What I didn't have to pray that prayer anymore I was like that was kind of fucked up I am so sorry, you know, like He loves you no matter what and he and we're not here to preach to everybody. And the girls that have OFs at home, we understand. You never apologize for what you have to do to survive

or what got you through to where you are today. You know what I'm saying? I think that's why I'm still holding on because this made me where I'm at today. And it's, I mean, now if TikTok actually goes away, that'll definitely affect the advertisement of me because my, basically my is starting drama and if I can't do that what the fuck else am I gonna do funnel

that Oh F into patreon that's what I did you literally just get it's like tit for tat so it's like replacing this with that and that's exactly what I did like ask me me it and patreon ended up paying triple what fucking OF was paying me. Once I got rid of OF, it was crazy. Like my Patreon just fucking blew up. So, I mean, just whenever you're ready, just know that you don't have to do that. And if you're ready to give it up

and you wanna give it up for Tyler, so you guys have a really good chance, you can. And if it doesn't work, go back to it. It's like, it's that simple. You got this sister. Let's talk about your music. Because you're doing really fucking good. Thank you, man. And I would really like to see you

pursue that, because I feel like that is the real Whitney when we see you on stage smiling and performing for people. I love every time I'm on stage, I get off and I'm like, let's do this again. Like, it feels like I'm flying when I'm on stage. When I started to like get on stage and realize how good I actually am and can be, I was so, that was my number one biggest insecurity ever

was singing in front of people. And I still like now if you'd have been like, sing for me, I still probably wouldn't, but like that was the biggest insecurity for me is singing in front of people. And I still like now, if you'd have been like, sing for me, I still probably wouldn't. But like, that was the biggest insecurity for me. Is singing in front of people. I don't know why, I think I'm just, I obsess over how good certain people are that I'm not that and I don't sound like that.

But like I do, I love singing, I love dropping music. I definitely want to get to where I am writing my own music because right now it's just from my songwriter. So it's not, it doesn't hit as hard. And I'm very, I really want to do ballads. Like I want to sing like, like Jessie Merv. The Climb. Yeah. Like I love like Jessie Merv and like Avery Anna,

like a lot of those girls, it's just hard because I don't live here. I feel like Jessie sings more than ballads though. She's always doing like some sort of like, she's too, she's- And Tate McCray, don't even get me started. I fucking love Tate. I would marry her.

Bro. So bad. She is gorgeous. Like she is so fucking gorgeous, dude. And she's got swag. And she's got fucking- Her dancing and her hair and her face, she's just hot. Her work ethic is insane, dude.

Like, whenever you see that girl, she's working. Yeah. Like, you don't ever see her on an off day. I'm just obsessed with her. Like, I just love her so much. Tate, we love you. Come on the podcast. So I can just stare at you for two hours.

Yeah, come hang out with me, I'd love that. But yeah, no, I do love music. I just, I don't like, okay, so when I know, I think of music. I think I know what a lot of people have put like so much work into their music, like and doing so much to get where they're at. I hate using other people.

I'm very, I wanna do this on my own. So like, I wanna build myself up, and like, in the music industry, you have to like use each other. And I hate that, because I just wanna, that's why I've been doing it all on my own. Like, I got used the first fucking song, fuck you, by the way, if you're watching this.

Are you talking about the dude that fucking did this? Yes, I still never got the money for my song. God. But like- You know what it is. Whitney, you are just so anxious to do that. You don't like I'm like, I'm like this. Yeah, but you don't care to fucking vet these people who are offering now the things that they you know that they're offering and you're just going in one bad deal after another. And then all these people just know that they can get clicks and views off your name. So it's like, you know, you have to protect yourself a little bit more and you need to have somebody who actually is really protecting you. Maybe Tyler could be like in a management position for you too.

He loves, he wants to. Yeah, I feel like Tyler would protect you but working with your significant other is very hard. Okay, Jay and I like boundaries for sure. Yeah, Jay and I did that for the longest time and I am so happy he has his own team and I don't know what the fuck he's doing. Like you have no idea.

Like when you're live together, sleep together and work together, it's a lot. So just know that if you guys aren't strong, that could come in between you two also. But definitely you need to keep pursuing this music career. Because when you drop, you chart every time. A lot of people don't get that, you know? So you definitely have something special.

I just want to write my own music so it means more to me. So it makes me want to drop it. So start writing. Who are you, what are you waiting for? I don't live here. So like, every girl wants to write with me, wants me to write up here. Yeah.

And like I do like Zooms just doesn't count like for me. Just like. So why don't you do like once a week, once a month to come to Nashville for a week and just sit in writers rooms. I just don't know anybody. Hello? Okay, you guys.

I'm like hello? All right, you that'd be fun. Oh dude, well, you want to write Dirty Christmas songs? I got you. Hell yeah. I got you. We could write a fucking Dirty Christmas song, right, baby? Does Jelly write his own songs?

He does. He does. And a lot of people, it's the funniest thing, because people are like, Jelly sold out when he signed his record deal. He doesn't write his own music. My husband writes every fucking song. He has writers in the room with him that help. But so does every fucking body else that fucking writes hits.

They have, it's like you're sitting around with your friends. Yeah, it's not people that are just going in there that aren't your friends. It's like a group of people that are just hanging out saying like, this is a fucking, let's do this here and let's do, you know, it's a vibe. So, but I mean, even without Nashville,

you can start writing by yourself and writing songs. It's just like the ADHD, I mean, doesn't let me just sit down and like think. And like, I could definitely write for sure. It's just like the beats and the words, it's just, it just seems like more of a bigger task than it actually is. Because when I was younger, I used to just sit on it,

because I can play the piano. So I used to just sit on the piano and like make up my own stuff. But I haven't really done that because I don't have like, I don't have a time to just sit down. Well, you've got 15 dogs. Yeah, not normal.

If I can buy a piano and try to sit down and maybe like- I asked for one for my birthday from Tyler and he was going to give me one, but then he canceled it because we broke up. Maybe for like an hour a day for 2025 or an hour a week, even if that if an hour a day is too much and just sit down and say, I'm going to play the piano and write for an hour a week. And that's how you start. And then eventually come to Nashville, start doing like a week or even a day.

Come here for like 24, 48 hours. Do that, like just make a game plan. That's all you gotta do. You know, you have the means and the ambition to do it. You just have to hone it in. Yeah. Well, is there anything else you wanna talk about my love? Think you got it all off you?

I feel like I just vented. Good, you feel better? Yeah. That's all that matters. I think I need it all off you. I feel like I just vented. Good, you feel better? Yeah. That's all that matters. I think I need therapy for sure. Yeah, that's all that matters. And maybe you and Tyler should go to therapy too to learn how to cope with each other.

That'd be good. Teamwork makes the dream work, you know? Thank you for coming. Thanks for having me. Why don't you tell everybody where they can find you? If they don't already know where to find you. Shit, you can find me anywhere Really all over google. Okay

Um, when you run don't point them in that direction. Yeah, don't look it up They're all going to look it up right now on all platforms snapchat when you're in seven I do have a patreon talk shit with wit. Let's see how much longer that's gonna go on I get bored by myself And also another thing. I don't know how you get guests here all the time, I just don't have the energy. It's a lot of work.

People don't realize a podcast is a lot. And then when they don't show up, or like then they like, it's just like, so much work. It's a lot. And I don't have like an assistant for that still. So, had one, she quit. You'll get it together. Yeah. You'll get it together. Yeah.

You'll get it together. I had my toe in a lot of things. Yes, you're a Gemini, right? No, I'm a Leo. You're a Leo? Why did I think you were a Gemini this whole time? Leo, what, August? August what?

11th. Oh, you're smack dab, Leo. That's why you're such a lover. That's why you're emotional as fuck, too. Yeah, I'm also an animal. Ah, you're a dab, Leo. That's why you're such a lover. That's why you're emotional as fuck too. Yeah, I'm also an animal. Ah, you're a lion, baby. I am. I love it.

Tell everybody bye for us. Close us out. Love you. Thanks for having me. Love you, bye. I watched unblonde. Aw, see you guys next week. Bye. Bye. Bye.