Dumb Blonde - Why Did Bunnie Just Give This Away For Free??

Episode Date: October 19, 2025

In this episode, the Coven open up about their big transition from Patreon to YouTube, revealing new channels — “Dumb Blonde Pod” for podcast content and “Bunnie XO” for lifestyle streams. Bunnie celebrates hitting over 21,000 subscribers in just a few days, and the group dives into the creative freedom and fresh energy that comes with the move. Things take a spooky turn as they discuss a lucid dream communication breakthrough and eerie listener stories — from a woman who received messages from her late girlfriend’s Facebook account to a man who stumbled upon a dead body in the woods. Between laughter and chills, the Coven reflect on facing fears, protecting privacy, and embracing the unknown.Watch Full Episodes & More:www.dumbblondeunrated.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Suck all my chocolate salty bow. That. Stick them in your mouth and suck them. That is top tier. The fact that you remember that is wild. Remember what? That song. She remembers every weird jingle.

That is part of my autism that everybody gets so mad at me about and tells me I don't have. I can hear a jingle and it will stay in my head forever. Yes. Yes. My fucking brain is like a sponge for music. It just records everything. But you tell me something and I will not remember it. You sing it to me.

I got it. I'm going to sing from here on out. Everything important and be like, you have a meeting. Bro, if you do it, I swear to God, I will probably. I think I won't. You better do the shimmy. You got to do the shimmy.

Please start telling her all her meetings. I won't. She's literally going to just fucking sing me to be in songs, yeah. I can't wait. I need to see those pigtails slapping like they just did because that was awesome, dude. Holy shit. All right, so we're still continuing on. It's October so you guys know we pause all regular interviews and for everybody that's

joining us now on YouTube. So let's talk about this really quick. I'm so freaking stoked. Like I think right now we're already at like 21,000 on the new YouTube, which I'm fucking happy with that. That's great. Awesome. We did that in like a few days.

Like it's amazing. And we just dropped a vlog on. So hold on. Let me pause. I'm just so excited. So we have two YouTube channels. We have the Dumblawn pod, which is the new channel.

And then we have my old channel that is BunnyXO that we're dropping. Meet the D-Fords BunnyX-O show vlogs. We'll be dropping two vlogs a month, I think, starting out, see how you guys like them. And then everything else. podcast is on Dumblawn Pod. So Ashtel Confess, the podcast, throwback podcast, everything will be on this channel. So super stoked.

We were able to announce that we departed from Patreon and we're sticking to our guns. We're not going back. We had a meeting with the CEO of Patreon. Super sweet guy sat down face to face with him. His name's Jack. Shout out Jack if you're watching. Super sweet guy. Just, you know, I think it was no longer the right fit.

we outgrew them and that's all that it is but we actually got to sit down with jack and let them know some of our concerns about the platform and we got to have closure i got to hug jack and it was really cool and we moved on so i don't know if you guys saw the new vlog but uh your girl has streaming stuff i can't wait it's going to be so fun dude i'm so excited we're i can't tell you guys what we're going to do but it's going to be fun so if you guys want to watch it i think you'll be able to see it on YouTube, which it'll be on my Bunny XO YouTube. And then it'll be on kick, which is the Bunny XO. It'll be on.

Anywhere we want to stream. Twitch. Are we doing Twitch, too? We can. Yeah. Do we have a Twitch account? No, but it will be tonight. Yeah.

We'll get a Twitch account too. And we're just going to fucking stream everywhere and have fun. And I'm so stoked for this new beginning. And let's clarify where we're streaming. Anything that we're streaming that's going to be like lifestyle type stuff will be on the Bunny XO channel. on YouTube and then anything that we do podcast related as tell confess related anything along those lines maybe a new show um will be on the dumb blonde pod channel on YouTube and that's where the two

different streamings will come through yes so I know it's a little confusing but if you subscribe to both you won't miss anything so it's that simple um we're stoked I feel like I got my creative wings back so I'm like really excited about that and I don't know I think it's just going to be fun The blog was hilarious, by the way. I know, the blog was so funny. Jaime did a really good job editing it. When you told that, do you like his hairdo? And then he turned right to the camera when I said, I liked his hairdo.

He said, he was like, thanks. And it was just like, it was perfect timing, dude. Are you a streamer? Well, because he was looking at stuff and I was going to ask him questions. Like, what do you use? You know, like I'm, listen, you guys know my brain. When it comes to figuring out algorithms and social media platforms, that is my fucking gift. I love it. So if I can find out every, once I start streaming and I start

seeing how it works and figuring out everything, I'm about to stick my dick in this, dude. Like, I can't fucking wait. And I told you guys, if I get a million fucking subs on kick, I will fucking run down Broadway naked. And I was not fucking lying when I said that. So million, how about a million subs on kick or Twitch? either or or dumb blonde pod YouTube yep

whichever one headlines bunny XO runs down Broadway naked I don't care can we do the kind of gender and just cover you in glitter I'm literally already the media outcast

my husband literally had to sit me down a couple weeks ago and was like you don't have to post as much as you used to you know we've made it we've made it and I'm like I do this because I love it and because it's just us like this is how we got here was from me posting you know so he's like all right I love you but can you turn it down a little bit and I'm just like maybe I'll think about it so it still hasn't turning up yeah he but he's encouraging it he's encouraging the fuckery he's just like be careful

with what you say he's like but you know me I'm just not a PG person I'm just like filtered this is me if you don't like it take it or leave it the good the bad the ugly i don't know how to pretend to be a certain way because i'm only always been so forthcoming yes granted i have learned to keep my mouth shut about certain things that i want private like you know the fertility journey and stuff like that like stuff i really want to keep close to my heart but i mean if it's me fucking streaking down broadway i'm fucking doing it go ahead bring the fitbit in let's go she's so concerned about the Fitbit. Yeah.

So by the way, guys, thank you, Momo. Say hi. Say hi to everybody on camera. I, thank you so much. I spray tan before I got here. By the way, guys,

she wears it on her ankle. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to tell you guys, I spray tan before I got here, so I had to take my Fitbit off, but I'm obsessed with counting my steps. So let me introduce you to the Fitbit. It's $80 on Amazon.

I'm not fucking sponsored by these people at all. And it is the most delightful little gadget you will ever have because I have been on the super, super health journey. You guys know that. Even though people keep fucking calling me fat, I'm like in the best shape I've ever been in is crazy. I think people mistake muscle with fat because I'm not like super sickly skinny like I used to be, which I don't think I was ever sickly skinny. I was just very, I don't know, like link. I'm a little bit more lankier than I am now like I'm putting on, you know, muscle. So anyways, I'm on a super health journey. I wear an aura ring to track my sleep and all this other stuff. And then I got a fit bit to count my

steps because I try to get in 10 to 13,000 steps a day. And you would be shook at how many steps you don't get in. She's very serious about this, guys. Yes. I will be, I will stay up till midnight. She was doing the laps around the Airbnb the other day to get her steps in. I'm telling you right now. And what is the toes for free? Do I have spray tan on the bottom of my feet? No. Anyways, look at this.

What's it? Fit bit. Fitbit. I'm telling you, put it on your ankle. It tracks every step you do. I didn't realize that my entire life, I had never walked 10,000 steps a day, unless it was like mandatory

or like I was probably walking through casinos to go see clients. But literally, I looked at my freaking, You know how your iPhone holds like all your fitness stuff? I looked all the way back to like 2018, 2019. There were some days I did like a thousand steps. What the fuck was I doing? You're not holding your phone like sometimes when you are like walking around. So I don't have my phone all in my hand every time.

And also like apparently you have to like swing it. Yes. So that brings up another point because people are like, Bunny, why are you wearing an aura ring and a Fitbit? I'm wearing an aura ring to track my sleep and stuff like that because the aura ring doesn't track your steps as much as it should. So if I've done 13K steps on my Fitbit, my aura ring will tell me I've done six. So that's why I have the two different ones.

And I don't wear the Fitbit on my wrist because these signals can give you like anxiety. It happened to Viking Barbie. She wore a Fitbit on her wrist and the aura ring and she literally had to take it off because she started getting panicky because they were fighting for it. signal oh yeah so remember when we had a competition of steps during tour that year yeah we're doing like 20,000 a day yeah it was yeah he both had you guys were counting those on your phone right yeah so that means you probably did double that did more than that yeah yeah yeah it's a lot of trips to catering yeah yeah it was like find the dressing room find the catering go back to the bus all right

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Geez, yeah, started out there and then took a little bit of a break. And you guys accepted me back with some open arms. So I'm very happy. Yeah, except my husband gave him to me. He was like, here, you can have him. No, I'm just kidding. He loved Jaime. He was going to hire Jaime back.

But I was like, I need a videographer. So poor Jaime has been stuck with us. Yeah. Poor Jaime. He's one of the girls. I am one at all. Listen, working for my husband is stressful. Yeah, yeah.

And that's all we're going to say. Especially four years ago, I can't imagine. Oh, for sure. It's a whole different story. Now, back then he was still, you know, jelly roll, jelly roll where, you know. Rapper roll. Rapper roll where he was bringing bottles of tequila to radio meetings.

Kind of missed that guy. I just said, kind of miss him. No, he's like a vegan. Yeah. But yeah, no, very happy to be here. And, yeah. That's how I mean. Oh, by the way, he's got a big titty blonde.

that is his fiance. And he's got the hottest fucking girlfriend, dude. I know if you guys listen to it and asked how confess, we had her send pictures of her boobs while we were on air. Nicest track ever. She's fucking hot. Anyways, yeah. So Jaime is fucking, he can lay the pipe down, obviously.

Hey. All right. So moving on. You have a story that you need to tell us. Did you guys see that a researcher in California was able to, let people talk in their lucid dreams? Hmm. Yeah.

Explain. All right. Okay. Wait. What phone is it on? I don't. What does it lose? Is lucid dream when you're awake but dreaming?

I think so. It's kind of like a daydream, right? Yeah. I've only had sleep paralysis. But wouldn't that be like hallucinating, manipulating a hallucination? Oh, no, because you have to, between hallucinating and dreaming that's two different chemicals being released in your brain, right? If you're lucid, though, you're half awake, half a sleep.

So why, how you could manipulate that easily. That's like when people talk in their sleep. It's like, and people are like questioning them and getting answers out of them. That's lucid dreaming, right? I thought lucid dreaming was when you were, yeah, no, lucid dream is when you're chat. Yeah. I thought it's when you're awake and you're, you're conscious that you're dreaming. You're aware, it's what I've heard.

Hey, chat. Yeah. So you're half awake, half asleep. Hey there, wide awake and ready to help or at least as much as a virtual beddy can be. I hate her. What is a lucid dream? Nothing about her is fun. A lucid dream is basically when you're dreaming, but you actually realize you're dreaming while you're still in the dream. So you're kind of aware, hey, this is a dream and that can let you sometimes control what happens or just explore the dream world with that awareness. Are you partially awake when this is happening? Are you

fully asleep? Yeah. So you are still fully asleep during a lucid dream. Your body is in that REM sleet stage where dreaming normally happens, but your mind just kind of wakes up inside the dream. So it's not like you're half a week in bed. That's crazy. Yeah, now that's crazy. This, it says a Silicon Valley Neurotech startup, REM space, claims they have now achieved a ground-breaking two-way lucid dream communication.

Who's communicating, two people in bed together? Using specialized equipment in a dream language called Remio to translate a single word from one dreamer to another while they are both asleep. So I'm guessing they have to be wearing devices for this to happen. The CEO Michael sees this as the first step towards enabling a real-time interpretation communication in their dreams, potentially reshaping how humans will communicate in the future. Listen, a motherfucker don't want to step in my dream, all right? I'm telling you right now, that's a fucking nightmare.

What a fuck is going on in this fucking Tim Burton fucking scene? What is happening? I still can't get over the fact you dream at night. I had another dream last night and it did it again. I can just, I dream at night. How often do you dream? I dream. If I sleep good, my aura ring, according to my aura ring, I get like two and a half hours of deep sleep every night and I get two and a half hours of R.m.

sleep and I get like one and a half hours of the other sleep, but I get like really good sleep. So I dream a lot. There was a time where I stopped dreaming and I didn't dream for like a year. Jason doesn't dream. It'll come back to him. I wonder why. It comes very rarely to him, but, you know, he's just now on a sleep apnea machine and

stuff. So that definitely helps because I don't think he ever REM sleep because he had sleep apnea. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, no, that is crazy. It'll come back, though, because mine went away for a long time and I was like, why am I not dreaming?

And Jay, the same thing happened to him. He wasn't dreaming for a long time. So that's really weird. Yeah, that's crazy. I would like to explore that more. I don't know if I would want to hop into somebody else's fucking dream and talk to them. It reminds me of behind her eyes. Such a great show.

Have you watched that yet? You got to watch that. You need to watch that. What is it? It's like a little mini series. It's like eight episodes, but I've made so many people watch that because it's just crazy. It's crazy. It's so good.

You need to watch it. I literally was going to come on the podcast and talk to you guys about this fucking video that came across my FYP. Apparently, this girl is like talking to the camera. and she's saying like, my daughter's seven years old. I'm taking her to school today and I'm dropping off to get adopted. And she's like, I'm just so excited about this. We're going to rent, we're going to buy an RV and sell the house. And I don't have to be a mom anymore.

I'm going to be free. And when I tell you the fucking horns on my back poked through my skin, I was ready to fucking hunt this lady down because I was just like, are you fucking kidding me? Anyways, she fucking posts another video where she's talking about like, okay, I gave my daughter up for adoption. She's, I can't believe this feels so good. Like, she's so happy about it, right? And finally, I look in the comments because, I mean, everybody's just tearing this woman to pieces. I'm talking like this video got like 20 million views, right?

Taring her apart. And then finally, I see somebody say, don't people realize you're reading somebody else's stories. I was about to blast this woman and put her through the ringer on the podcast because I had just seen the video I didn't read the caption which I need to read the caption and I couldn't believe it.

I was so angry. My insights just got really hot. I read so many of the comments and they were like good like I'm glad you are. Yeah. Those are bots have to be bots. No, no, no, no. No, it was real people.

And listen, I can see both sides of the coin. If somebody's not a good parent and is not fit to be a parent, then yes. Give your child an opportunity to have a fucking amazing life, you know, but make sure they're going to an amazing home. On the flip side, it's like, God bless you with this child. Get your shit together, you know? So I understand both sides, but I lean more towards, like, get help so that you can be

the mom that you need to be. I don't know. But yeah, I saw that fucking thing and I was just like, oh, I know it's true crime, but it's about to be a true crime. Yeah, she was so fucking angry. Yeah, that's why people were saying, I'm glad you're dropping her off instead of like killing her. Yeah, or putting her through hell the rest of her life or something like that, you know,

which I get that. I understand. But also I did not know she was reading someone else? Yeah, she was, yeah. No wonder she had no, like, empathy. Yeah. No, the way she did this, should we play it? I think I have it so that you can see it.

I should have played it for you before I told you it was. The day that I get to drop my daughter off for the rest of her life. I can't really say that I feel sad about it. I really don't care. I gave up custody of my kid. I put her up for adoption. She's seven years old. Sorry.

I literally just woke up. She's going to school. I'm about to drop her off to her last day of school. I have to take her to. And then the adoptees are picking her up from the school pickup line. And yeah, I'm a free woman after that. I'm selling my house. I'm buying an RV, I'm about to travel the world, I'm pretty, I'm pretty excited.

I have been like waiting for this moment my entire life ever since I had her and I was being guilty and not giving her up just because like I felt like as a mom, you're not supposed to give your kid up. But then I had a good talk with like my boyfriend and he said that it doesn't matter what other people think. It's what you want and I don't want a kid. So yeah, so she got, She has an adoptee. It's not like I'm bringing her to a foster care system. She has a family that wants her in. Yeah, she's seven years.

You understand why I was like, oh my God. Like, how is this woman? And this lady has like 100,000 followers, too. I was like, how does this fucking woman have a platform? Like, I was about to go off. But then I realized that the story was somebody else's story, which is also fucking horrific. Where did you get this story from? Who are these people?

Where is the little girl? Like, I want to know if she's okay now. You don't deserve to be a mom. Yeah. No, whoever did that, I just, it's, I can't. It just breaks my heart because there's women who are fighting to have children who are literally fucking, you know, going through so much to just have a child. And, you know, for you to just be like, oh, I don't care. I'm going to be with my boyfriend.

Okay, well, when that dude cheats on you and fucking ruins your life or does what, because he's already ruining your life, any real man would not just be like, oh, yeah, give up your child so you can be free. But anyways, yeah, so I didn't mean to go off on that tangent, but that's rough. Right? So mad right now. So mad. Good Lord. You had another thing you wanted to talk about. Don't feel like I should follow that story up with what I was about to say.

Oh, no. Say it. Chat's going to erotica. What? I saw that. Did you see it? Chat's going to what? Like, you can now get like erotica on chat, GPC.

What the fuck is erotica? Born. Sex stuff. What? Yeah, creating AIs that are so that it's making people fall in love in a pathway to human disempowerment. Yep. It says they will have a personality that behaves more like what people like about you,

about the last version of the program will adapt further and treat adults like adults. We will make Chad GPD pretty restrictive to make sure that we are careful with the mental health issues following that. Oh. People are just going to be falling in love with their chat. It's like the Megan Fox movie. There's a movie. There's another one before.

Before that, though, Weird Science, of course, created the first one. And then there was another one. Was it her? I can't remember, but he falls in love with like a computer. A computer, yes. Yes, that's her. It's not even like a person. It's like her voice.

Like he falls in love with that. Did you see what happened to that little boy who fell in love with his, his AI? And he ended up committing, yeah, blank, because she told him to. So the mom is now suing. That's terrible. Yeah. I'm telling you, it's very scary when you start leaning into, like, the falling in love with AI type movements.

It's like those people who would marry roller coasters and stuff, you know? The guy on Indiction. Yeah. Lept with his car. Yeah. What hole did he stick it in the gas tank? I always thought that it was the exhaust pipe. Are you serious?

Cup holder. You got down on his knees. What did you just say? Cup holder. That's a, you got to be huge to fit in in a cup holder. he fucked the cup holder no i don't know if he fucking out holes but imagine how girthy you got to be to get in the gas tank right you can stand and just stick it in there and it's kind of tight

i would think the the pipe i don't want to think about this anymore actually bending it up in the handle i'm just trying to think of what felt good like i need flesh all a mesh oh he was like licking it instead of his red car the car yeah what how it got yeah he's got a new car accident right yeah i think so yeah and then the lady who married a roller coaster. Yeah. I hate people. I fucking hate people.

That's why I love animals so much. People are so fucking weird and fucked up. It's crazy. Am I going to get canceled for that? I don't care. Now that we're on YouTube, I'm not, I can't,

I got to be careful what I say. Yeah. The whole podcast community is like, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Literally. Literally. All right.

So moving on, we have, we scoured the internet. for some of the scariest stories that we could find to fit into spooky season. So who would like to kick this off? Go ahead. Oh, the ghost has a butthole fetish.

No, mine's not about buttholes this time. Okay, good. So there used to be a website called the Liminal Index. Have you guys heard of this? No. Not many people remember it because you couldn't find it unless you weren't looking for it. It was a plain black page with white text

in no images. The only thing on the screen was a single search bar. At the bottom in tiny gray letters, it said, find what you almost forgot. If you typed in something random, like old cartoons, childhood park, my first phone, the site would return one result, just one. It always had a title, a few paragraphs, and a date, but the strange part was that the entries were personal. People on old message boards said it showed them things they never posted online. One guy saw a description of his missing dog with a final line saying he still waits by the mailbox.

A woman saw a transcript of a phone call she'd had with her grandmother before she died. Another person claimed the site showed him a grainy photo of himself sitting at his desk timestamped two hours in the future. Every story

ended the same way. The user hit refresh and the site was gone. Some users said that months later their browsers would auto-complete, and even though no domain was registered, a few claim they could still access it briefly during power outages or storms, the text appearing faintly in the middle of a black screen, like an after image burned into the glass. No one ever found the site's creator. What? That is probably the creepiest shit I've heard. That's crazy. That's a good

find. That is a great find. I've scoured for that one. Yeah. What? Creepy, right? Do you guys remember back in the day, like, there was like faces of death. There was like, what is it, rotten.com? I got a shirt from rotten.com. That was one of my favorite websites. The internet was insane.

Unhinged. Before we had censoring. Yeah. It was like the black web was just everywhere. Yeah. No, it's, I mean, the internet's still a fucking scary place. But I'm telling you, like, back in the day, being a kid finding those is. Yeah, I never.

I didn't know any about that. Like none of it, no one from where I'm from ever talked about any of that or did any of that. It must be nice. Did you guys have fun? The only thing I did was somehow got away with this. When I was like a junior or senior,

we had to do like informative papers, like informative research papers. It had to be like 10 pages. I didn't mind on the Illuminati. And I don't know how my school let me do that. And I was able to like look up everything on YouTube. But the stuff I did find was great. Oh yeah, no. It's crazy. It's crazy. The web, the internet was just insane. It's a sick place now, but back then people, like, could find anything online. You could buy drugs online. I'm sure you still can now, but like it was crazy. I remember I was a kid and this was like, of course, you had like the community computer back in the day. And so it just sat in our kitchen area, like a dining area. And all my friends were over and I had just gotten a rabbit. And I wanted to like look up, I guess, stuff on the internet.

And I put like rabbit.com while it was a porn site. And so like all my little friends, we were sitting around and it was just like people doing it. And I was just like, and my mom was like, oh my God. So they should have like call all my friends' parents and tell them that it accidentally came up and it was a mistake. And they like saw porn. Oh, what were you?

I had to have been like Olivia's age. So probably like eight years old. Oh. No. You know what? Yeah. Because I remember the year I got the rabbit. I was like in fourth grade.

So yeah, I was about eight or nine years old. Yeah, the internet's a wild place. You want to go next memes? Yeah. Okay, so I dove into a little bit, and this is like totally true because they ended up making a Netflix series about it, and I don't know if you guys watch it. It's called The Watcher. Oh, yeah, I watched it. Yeah.

I watched it. Okay, by the way, didn't know that was true. Wow. It's a true story. Wow. I still don't know who it is. You got to watch it. Bro.

You watched it, right? Watch the watcher. Yeah. Yeah, no. It doesn't tell you who the watcher is. They never found out. This is me off. Yeah.

The dearest new neighbors at 657 Boulevard allow me to welcome you to the neighborhood. My grandfather watched the house in the 1920s. My father watched it in the 1960s and is now my time. Do you know the history of the house? Do you want to know what lies within the walls of 657 Boulevard? So at first they thought it was just a prank, but then the letters got darker and darker. And the anonymous writer began referring to their three children by nicknames, even describing them playing in the yard. and then would write letters to them about their children.

The letters kept company mentioning things that could only be known by someone who was very watching very closely. The family never even moved in. They were too terrified. The police investigated for years using handwritten experts, DNA testing, neighbors mailboxes, and The Watcher was actually never found. They ended up making a Netflix series about it called The Watcher. And in 2014, Derek and his wife had bought their dream home.

It was a beautiful six-bedroom house in a quiet New Jersey neighborhood. But before they even moved in, is when the letters even began. So I know in the series, it's a little exaggerated, but they actually never ended up moving into the home because the letters were so creepy. Yeah. Anybody writing about your kids? I would never. Like, that's crazy.

That is terrifying, honestly. and the fact that you never found it is similar to like the zodiac and this was in 2014 technology's pretty great in 2014 i understand the zodiac because that was like so long ago and we didn't have technology like we do today but the fact that in 14 you couldn't catch this person doing it how could they not pull a fingerprint off of a letter right like how do you you can't you have to fold a letter and loves i guess yeah but i mean you would think like a hair of fucking eyelash like something not track it like when it gets to the postal yeah they had to deliver that i don't know because also if like they hand delivered it i mean no one seen you would

nobody had a fucking ring camera back in the front i don't know i feel like rings has been around for a long time thinking about 2014 it is a little bit ago i always think that wasn't that long ago but that was 11 years ago all right all right i scoured the internet myself and i think i found some good ones so um okay a few years ago i was walking through the woods off the beaten track a bit and i smell this really overpowering sweet smell being nosy i pulled back the undergrowth to have a look and found a dead body the guy had clearly been there a while and wasn't looking great all swollen and green and black with various runny bits. The local wildlife had been dining well for a few days. I called the police who told me

to wait with the body until they arrived. Being in the middle of nowhere, it took a while for them to arrive and it got dark and I would just sat there in the dark with him for a long time. It turned out he had unalived himself. For a long time afterwards, I had dreams about him and he would talk to me and not say nice things, mainly about how he was so angry that I had disturbed his resting place and he wanted me to off myself probably just my imagination but all pretty disturbing at the time he still turns up in my dreams from times to time and no doubt will be tonight after typing this sounds like his spirit latched on yeah i was going to say i feel like she definitely got something from that day he needs that person needs to send that person to the

light yeah or you know tell him that he needs to get away from him yeah because that that's terrifying And that person clearly didn't get the final moments they wanted. So I guess it probably hadn't been there very long before she uncovered it. She said it'd been there for a few days. I said it was a little bloated and runny and animals had been eating it. Have you ever seen pictures of bodies like that? No, I'm not into dead bodies. I don't like him.

I had a client who was a homicide detective and when cases would close, she could bring me photos from it to look over. crazy who looks at that willingly like what's wrong with you why do you want to see that I actually wanted to be a homicide photographer I wanted to be a CSI person I wanted to be a mortician I wanted to embalm people because I have such a fear of death I figured like that would be the one I'd have to stare death in the face every day I even looked into it and they didn't have like a mortician school in Vegas yeah it turns out like a lot of like funeral homes and stuff are family owned they're not like they're not corporations or anything like that's like passed down from family it is so it's kept

within the family and like that sort of thing so they don't bring insiders out because i i wanted to do something along those lines um and yeah i did hair for a client of ours one time after she had passed it's very strange yeah it's it's it's crazy when you do because obviously i have seen a dead body i've seen my mom's dead body i've seen you um when you look at a dead body it's like the entire person is deflated it's so weird but it's so weird how a soul fills the body up yes but when it leaves it's like a shell it's like almost like like when a crab you know like the fucking hermit crab so it shells you know like it's crazy it's so weird it's like an abandoned house that's it an abandoned house is the best way to describe it like when we did

Peggy's hair I was like she's that's not her yeah that's just her show for sure it's her it's her empty house because that that's not her and like I felt that that's so crazy you've done makeup before for someone also and like it did it was it the same it was like I can't even talk about it yeah start crying no yeah those things are crazy yeah all right who's next I do know you know what a dead body feels like they're cold No. And stiff. Your hand?

Yeah, no, I felt it. Yeah, that's what a dead body feels like. That's crazy. You want to do it? I guess. Come on down. Because now I'm curious. Yep.

Weird, right? First of all, how did you figure that out? We used to do that in elementary school. I feel like dead bodies are a little bit colder than that. Oh, they're cold for sure, but the texture-wise. But like, it's like you're, it, when I did make up on them, it reminded me of those, like, life-like dolls that it's like, it's like stretchy plastic

if that makes sense like hard wishy hey man we're all going to be there one day all right I got a short little sweet one go baby go um a man in rural Kentucky posted that every night

he'd hear slow deliberate footsteps outside his house and a tune being whistled he set up cameras but nothing ever showed up on video but the audio always caught the same tune growing louder, stopping exactly at 303 a.m. When a neighbor commented on the post,

he said, don't open your door. It used to whistle at ours too. No. Ner. Don't want it. What is it? Yeah, like, what are we talking about?

How are you going to say that and not elaborate? Hate it. I don't love it. those fucking terrible if something fucking whistled like jeepers creepers I've never seen that oh watch it he whistles by myself nope yeah watch it watch it with your brother you guys watch it together right and I'm okay yeah yeah no absolutely not have you guys heard about this one I feel like I went in a different direction I went with like people who've been murdered and it was like things I hadn't like heard before but have you guys heard of

the Hello Kitty murder? No. Okay. So in Hong Kong, in 1999, a 23-year-old woman was kidnapped, tortured for weeks, and ultimately killed by three men in Hong Kong. They stuffed her skull inside of a Hello Kitty mermaid doll, which is how they got the name of the case.

The details are so gruesome that seasoned detectives reportedly sought therapy afterwards. The crime took place in a small apartment in a busy district of Hong Kong. 10 bucks two. yeah there um so the crazy thing about these these guys were like in their 20s and early 30s they were not like old it was three dudes they were later joined by a teenage girl who was one of the dudes girlfriends who became a key witness in the entire case it began where they allegedly stole like about five hundred dollars four thousand dollars in hong kong from uh chan and one of their regular clients, instead of demanding

repayment, he kidnapped her to teach her a lesson. This is how she became one of their victims. For the next month, they held her captive in his apartment, and they beat her daily with metal bars and kitchen utensils.

They were forced to smile and laugh during her torture, and burned and whipped sometimes while the men played video games nearby. So they just lived with this woman in their apartment and just absolutely tortured her. So they would also deny her food and drinks, everything for long stretches of time. Eventually, she did, they did not

kill her purposefully. She died from the injuries and dehydration. And yeah. She succumbed to her injuries and ended up passing away. She died and the men began to panic. They dismembered her boiling parts right boiling parts to hide the smell of the dead body did they think what do they think beating her and not feeding her did they think she was not going to die

I just doing that for fun I know literally I'm like what did you guys assume was going to happen to this girl they ended up sewing her skull into a hello kitty mermaid doll leaving her organs in plastic bags months later the 14 year old girl who had witnessed the events

went to the police saying that she was haunted by her ghost. The confession led investigators to the apartment where they ended up finding her skull inside of the hello kitty doll. That's insane to me. Like, first of all, I could never just dissect a human body

and fucking be okay. The amount of people in history who have done that is unsettling. It's crazy. To be able to crush a human bone and rip it apart and fucking cut open skin and get all the, like,

like you know like when cartel like empties them and then like puts all the drugs in them and sews them back up and drag them over the border yeah how do you do that no it's just it's so fucking barbaric and gross i hate it yeah i can't do it all right this one is short and sweet i once sat across from a guy who told me about killing his girlfriend he cut her up into pieces and boiled her head he explained why he killed her and wished he could talk to the parents so that they could understand that what he did was a good thing. What? I sat with him for 45 minutes as he went into detail.

It was one of the most surreal 45 minutes of my life. I also worked in a maximum security health facility. I would love to do that. Yeah, I would too. I would love to work in a mental, because I've been in one. So I would love to work in a mental health hospital just for the lure, I think. But to have, one, to help people, but to also just the, I don't know, just deep dive into how, yeah, how crazy and twisted things can get, you know.

I would love to just like ask someone questions. There's one right next to my hometown, like five-ish minutes. That we can work at? Huh? That we can work at? I'm sure I have rings. Actually, I do. I got family members who do psych tech in California.

You what? I have family members who are psychics, which is the people who work. in those facilities and take care of crazy people. I have two, I think, cousins who do it. That's crazy. It's insane. I almost did it. I almost wanted to. Oh yeah, because you're like trained in work psychology stuff. Yeah, he

dissects everybody. Yeah, they escape sometimes. Jaime is trained in psychology, so I need you to give I need to get you to give each one of us a summary of ourselves. A summary of yourselves. Yep, while we're on the podcast. And this is unedited. We're not even going to edit it. You have to tell the truth. Don't hold back.

Okay. Who do you want me to start with? Start with Haley. Jesus. Haley is somebody who, I hate to say it, but if I were to want to take advantage of somebody, you'd probably be an easy target. That's very psychopathic to say. I like it.

Only because you see the good in people. And when the truth stares you in the face, you look for any little bit to hold on to confirm your. you. Don't hold back though. You got to be brutal with all of us. You can hold back a little. Don't hold back with me. I want to know. Gotcha. And I mean, yeah, but overall you're, I mean, I'd say you're a pretty good person. Thanks. Not very narcissistic. Yeah. I mean, nothing crazy. All right. What about Mimi? Mimmy? Your food habits. Mimi's like the most type A slash type B I've ever

met um don't know what that means yeah type a is like you're very like you can delegate and get shit done in like other things but i feel like when it comes to something that you got to do yourself it's a harder you do a lot better with a target that's away from you than here uh yeah uh yeah hence i had to fucking make her go to the doctor last night after two weeks yeah yeah yeah but if it were bunny you'd be like girl what the hell you'd like get out of here go to the hospital but if it's you it's i'll be fine all right i'm scared i got butterflies in my stomach go ahead hyme fire away ad for buddy it's uh your personality type is very like jump jump out of a plane build a parachute on the way down oh my god does that not describe that last week motherfucker i land on my feet

every time though yes but you got that fate on your side where you know and you've experience to where you don't really need a direction, you just know that it's going to work out. Yeah. Like it's going to be fine. I feel like that's always in your mind that it's going to work out. No, it has to. Yeah, it has to. I don't have a choice. It has to work out. So we're going to do this and it's going to fucking work. That was so bunny. I love it. Wow. That was good. We love that. Wow. So do we have any more stories? You guys want to. I've got some. Come on. Who's the next? Oh, but yeah. Um, talking about the the mental hospital though they escape a lot oh okay we've had a few that have come through our

yard and i'm like maybe six miles excuse me they just run across the front yard yeah i mean i live on a farm but yeah they'll they'll like go hide in the woods and stuff it's a lot of woods and like you know the midwest but they'll go hide in the woods like we've had like police like go through our yard like looking like four people yeah they're and they're they're insane i talk about tunnels yeah no i believe i talk about my mental health uh my mental hospital stay in the book i just re listened to that chapter the other day whoa it was it bad no you gloss over your life so much that i'm like how how like that chapter still like i've listened to it like i've listened to it three or four times it still is like what yeah like that shit fucked me up no i mean i again turned

a fucking positive a negative into a positive though i had a great experience there at the end so when you guys she's like befriended it this girl was really cute yeah yeah she did got her instagram yeah it was literally i'm here to party i'm not here for a good time i'm not here for a long time i'm here for a good time let's figure it out man you are so who you are through your whole life it's kind of crazy yeah it is weird definitely weird there's a lot of traits that circle back i'm like oh that all makes sense even just seeing the old picture of you today and you still have the same hairstyle that you like it's like a different version yeah same thing different font it was which picture the big picture where you're sitting there like this we did change that

and you had an updo and you're in lingerie it's for like a promo oh god that yeah yeah yeah your updos is like what Mimi does today yeah yeah yeah no i love it all right go ahead we're giving away too much of the book. Yeah. Jill's going to be like, what the hell, guys? Yeah. Jill, listen, my poor publicist has a heart attack every week with me.

I don't know why she represents me, but shout out Jill because I love you. Like, thank you for letting me be your wayward child. Yeah. Okay, hold on. I thought I had one more. Maybe I don't.

Okay, you go ahead because. Got she just woke up out of his sleep because I made the fart noise. He's terrible. Can we do it again? Yeah. The long side. He's like, bitch, I'm going to give you a chance.

He's going to leave. Chachi hates farting noises for you guys who didn't see that tick. Do it again. That's what he's saying. For you guys who didn't see that TikTok, Chachi absolutely hates farting noises. Do it again. He's not having it.

And I'm out. He hates it. He's fucking hates it. Every time. That's so funny. Fist off. All right. He's probably going to go lay with you guys now.

Come on. Let's go. Oh. Come here. Come on. Come on. Come with your auntie. Sleepy, old man.

We won't fart at you. Yeah. By the way, I did a TikTok that got like five million views of Chachi doing that and fucking he hates it. Hates it. Yeah. Don't fart around Chachi. He's the only one that can fart. Anybody else he gets mad about it.

Earlier when he farted was wild. Yeah. I'm sleepy boy. Okay. This is called my dead girlfriend keeps messaging me on Facebook. Oh, geez. Um, after my girlfriend, Emily, died, a man, or I began receiving messages from her old Facebook account. At first, they were old recycled texts, but over time, the responses got specific.

When I confronted Facebook support, they confirmed no one else had access to the account. Her final message just said, I'm cold. Then her profile disappeared. That's fucking terrible. I got chills. I got chills when I read that one I don't like that I don't like it

no the fact that I contacted Facebook support I said no one not into it we all had very different vibes of stories yeah mine was all like weird internet

yeah yours is like true crime yeah I went with like the weirdest things that have happened all right I got this one right here I had some parents who let me sleep in the living room on weekend nights when I was very young because my sister was a light sleeper and I could stay up until dawn. But of course, I always end up

sleeping on the couch because Nick at night made me tired. So one night I wake up to the prickly feeling like an instinct just bolted into a sitting position and stared out the front window. We lived in rural Georgia so you can imagine the magnitude of trees. In perfect light cast from the moon, I see a silhouette of someone in the fucking tree. The family dog dashes to the window and is snarling into the glass. Terrified, I run into my parents' room and try to explain to my parents that there's a stranger person outside. My dad grabs something defensive and darts outside with the dogs to beat the wax off the hot head, whatever that means. All right. I tremble in mama's arms until dad comes home and says he saw no one and to go to bed. I decided to sleep in my

regular bedroom and I fell my sister in as to what happened dad is making regular rounds in the house with a cup of coffee we're all still and finally i think i can sleep nope i look outside my window and i notice the man outside my window from what i can see in the moonlight he gives me a signal nope and runs away just turns around to run a straight line away i couldn't stop crying for what felt like ours my sir that was a peeping tom that was a peep of tom that's like my worst fear when you guys were kids did you ever like have a fear of black windows like if you have to go like close the shades and it was like dark outside i couldn't do that as a kid like if my blind look outside the windows at night yeah if my blinds were open and i didn't close them before dark

it would give me severe panic attacks yeah yes yeah that's like you would go up and try to like close them I'm fine now but like I literally stand to the side of the window and be like this yeah no I hate that my parents our front room had nothing but windows and they would have every light on in the house and all the curtains open every night I used to go and close them no wonder you have PTSD with curtains yeah I'm obsessed I have to have colored windows at all time even if we are like traveling and go to Airbnb's I will not rent an Airbnb if it does not have fucking curtains yeah remember that one time we duct taped sheets I will ducked tape a thumbtack so any fucking thing i can we have done all those things to cover a

gas station blankets i'll do whatever it does the top tier i will do whatever i can't i cannot not have no that's why i think if we go to the appellations it's going to be so fun because we're all facing fears i'm good now though like it was when i was younger well i mean let's see how you are in the mountains no no not about the appellations i meant windows which is so really Rude. Jumped ahead of me there. She's just fucking rude. I couldn't do that and I couldn't turn off lights through the house.

I always felt like something was rushing behind me. Same. Really? Exactly the same. I would have to turn on the light and then turn on the other light. Yes. Like going room to room. Yeah.

But even then, like I didn't like the darkness behind me. I would literally feel like things were like running towards me. That's the feeling I got. Going upstairs. Don't even get me started. We had a basement and the basement would be dark. and then like I'd just have the light in the stairwell when I tell you I would run up those stairs so and you know what now that I think about it I think it comes from one time my dad was

hiding downstairs and chase me up the stairs as I was running because he knew that was my fear and he did of course that's my dad yeah he always would scare us we had the my dad had this old man Halloween mass that was creepy my brother was younger and he hated it so much and I'm sure he'd weird all the time oh my dad like it was like middle of the night he came to his door and was like scratching his door my brother opens the door my dad's in the mask my brother punches my dad in the face my dad got so mad brain got in so much trouble but he legit like hit him in the face you were scared why yeah you're scared for sure like out of both my kids Olivia likes scary stuff.

Cash is horrified of anything scary. Cash is very, yeah. Oh, he hates it. Like, I'm talking, it, Olivia is cool with, like, scary movies. Like, she loves Beetlejuice. He also doesn't like sad movies.

Yeah, he'll be like, is he'll be like, can we fast forward through the sad part? Like, even Cars? He'd be like, it's a little sad. We're going to fast forward through that. I get it. Cars is sad at some point.

Yeah, it is. Cars can be sad. He doesn't like. He doesn't like to feel sad. Don't show him up. Oh, he won't watch it. Yeah. Don't show him fucking all dogs go to heaven.

Absolutely not. I don't think I've seen that. Oh my God. You got to watch it, Haley. I don't think I want to. What's the one I texted you the other day and I was bawling? I forget. It's like the little girl because like she did actually end up dying.

That's all dogs go to heaven. Oh, it is. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently, yeah, like he. Sobbing. I used to be obsessed with like reading about that. Like his, he had to like redo that line so many.

times and made everyone leave the studio. Yeah. I can't remember. All right. Well, before we all start crying, we are going to put up a post on the Dumblawn pod YouTube. And if you guys have any scary stories, leave them in the comments under this video or under the post.

And we will read them on the podcast. So love you guys. See you next week. Bye.