Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 505: Wim Hof

Episode Date: April 28, 2022

Wim Hof, the legend himself, the ICE MAN , joins the DTFH! LOS ANGELES AREA: DUNCAN IS GOING TO BE AT THE 'NETFLIX IS A JOKE' COMEDY FESTIVAL IN HOLLYWOOD FOR A LIVE PODCAST TAPING WITH SPECIAL GUEST DAN HARMON (CO-CREATOR OF RICK AND MORTY, COMMUNITY, ETC)! ONE NIGHT ONLY! APRIL 28. SORRY WE DID THIS LATE AGAIN. GO GO GO! Wim has a bunch of great books out and teaches classes as well! You can find all that and more on his website, WimHofMethod.com. Original music by Aaron Michael Goldberg. This episode is brought to you by: Trade Coffee - Visit DrinkTrade.com/Duncan for $20 Off your first THREE BAGS of coffee! Sunday - Get 20% Off your custom lawn care plan when you visit GetSunday.com/Duncan

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All right. Let's get cold with Wim Hof. Wim Hof, welcome to the DTFH. Thank you so much for being on the show. Happy birthday. Do you know we share a birthday? Like the 20th. 420.

We're both 420 people. Wow. Yeah. I know. 420. Hitler was also 420. Trust me. I know.

I think what he did, we have to undo. Now, yes, I agree with that. But how? This is... Oh, easy. Within one year and four months, I will reach billions of people through this method, through the BBC, through Hollywood, and more, and through podcasts like this. It's got to be, you know, because this shit works.

That's why people begin to take it up and see it once one person sees that it really is effectively enabling the person to go into the autonomic nervous system, into the limbic system, the vascular system, into the deepest of the brain. All that, then he will spread it. He will share it automatically. No money, no nothing. It's life. I found something in nature.

It's working, and I'm sharing it, and where that I found is a lot more. Yeah, man. Do you think what you found is something new or something that was lost? What I found is profound, and it is. Of course, breathing has been about since we have become mammals. That's logical. Yes. All that was there, but what was not there is the understanding of our psyche and our

neurology that now is able, compared to, say, 50 years ago, it would not be able to grasp the fullness of our brain's capacity. Right. Let me explain little. We did brain imaging, so brain scans, the best brain scans of the world, doing this breathing. These breathing techniques, they have been around, etc., everybody say, no, it doesn't, because it's different.

It is so that it has been showing itself within brain scans, where it was understood in science that only 16% we can control of our brain voluntarily, like consciously. Yes. Now, through these breathing techniques, we ignite or activate 100% neural activity inside the brain. Wow. And that is nothing more than logical. In that moment, we are voluntarily, consciously able to harvest, to get into those areas

of the brain, now accessible by the activation at will, which is neurology, neural signals, to go any part in our brain. And you know, Duncan, with that, we are able to do why we are here for, to get in the unlimited power of our mind. The seat is the brain. And we have shown this now. And it sounds like, oh, this is not possible, because we hang on the old paradigm. We love the old paradigm, where dictators come, presidents and kings, they will give

us direction. I tell you, the only thing they give us is erection. It's fucking portal, man. I don't want it no more. It's over. It's done. The abuse. It is done.

I want independence. I want freedom. Yes. I want to own my own mind. Yes. And we found the keys, and we hand them over to the people. At first, of course, it sounds like unbelievable. But now we have shown in science, in the best brain scans of the world, that we are able

to own full capacity of 100% of our mind seated in our brain. It's there. It's just fact. The brain scan stuff is amazing. I think people like me, what we see is you swimming in water that formerly people said, if you fall in that water, you will instantly die. And you're doing this just a relaxed kind of like the way I swim in a heated pool around icebergs.

That's what we see. I think that's the real proof is this thing that you're doing, it is what a superhero would do or something like that. And the idea that you can teach people to do that is incredible. By the way, because I knew I was going to be interviewing you, I've been taking cold showers. I feel great. It makes me feel, I don't know, I hate it when it's happening, just I hate it.

But when it's done, my day is 20% better. What is going on there? What is that? It's just cold water. Why is it having that impact? When it's done, it's done, then you dunked it, you dunked it. You did it. You know what you did?

You go out into real comfort from the so-called comfort zone behavior, which is living in a world with extension tools created by our thinking. Man, when you love somebody, you don't think. But that feeling, that deep feeling is outside of our thinking. I want to love life. I want to go out of this thinking brain, these extension tools, these vibrators of life, which do not give real love. I want to get out of there.

I want to experience the love for life. Now it shows that if we do go outside in the cold, then we activate the deeper brain. The deeper brain is the area where fears are, emotions are, traumas are. The inexplicable is, it's all there and it hasn't got anything to do with thinking. You have to go past the thinking. So the bloody cold shower, besides of that, it is a great cardiovascular fitness workout. And mind, number one killer in the West, is cardiovascular related diseases. Right, yes.

And so if you take the, this is what I always say, a cold shower a day keeps the doctor away. Man, even the doctor is doing it because now they'll begin to understand it's better. It's better to go a little bit into a stressful, some stressful moments of the cold, where in a deeper part of the brain and body is being exercised, activated. And therefore afterwards you feel so great, because the energy begins to run in the body. Yes, it's the best and my skin feels better, everything feels better. But I want to ask you this, what do you do just during the day when your mind, your

thoughts, the thinking process, this disconnective, whatever the fuck it is that does definitely seem to cut us off? What do you do with that when you're not around cold water, when you're not jumping in cold water or climbing mountains or swimming in the Arctic? I'm just playing with my younger son, he's four years old. He's very time consuming. Yes. He's very energy consuming.

Yes. Coming weekend, I'm going to record a new book, for example. And based on my speech, I'm going to make that book and it's going to be a New York Times bestseller. I'm sure it is. You're a hit. I mean, people love your stuff. You're so prolific too, there's so many audibles out there and your audibles have more warnings

in the beginning than any book I've ever heard. It's a five minutes of warning, it's incredible. It's exciting when you're listening to an audio book and that's how it starts. You better go into the danger, but safely than staying in the so-called comfort zone behavior where so many dangers are lurking, but we do not see it. I went so many times to life and death, borders, the line between life and death that I know exactly where is the death and where is life. I want to live life to the fullest.

So what I'm doing during the day, I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying life. But I'm also a man on the mission and I want to change the world and I'm going to. I think you are, but to me, I'm not where you're at. I want to be where you're at, I'm not where you're at. In your three pillars, the first breathing, yeah, I love it. The second cold, I love it. The third commitment, not so good at that one, I can't keep it going anytime, whatever

I'm trying. At some point, I just stopped doing it. Do you have any instructions for that? Like the commitment part seems to be of all of it, the most difficult. Yes, it's not something you automatically need to do, but whenever you feel shit, whenever you feel trauma, blocked or fear or a sluggish in your brain or having no energy, you take the damn cold shower and it's back because it is resetting the body. Wow.

Past your thinking, it will reset through our thinking, through our daily lives. We get into biochemical shit and we don't feel it. We don't see it until it's too late. Right. We need the reset button. If you go into a good cold shower, the biochemical residue, the shit is going to be washed out of the system because you learn to activate the adrenal axis. The adrenal axis is for danger.

When a dangerous situation exerts the adrenaline to come and it comes. If you want it or not, so if you go into the cold, the cold is actually dangerous for us. So then the strong hormones come in and when they come in, they reset and this is what everybody's got to know. Then at that moment, the working of the adrenaline is to make you the best of functionality to face the danger. Wow. And then people shit in their asses or in their pants and they piss because it is fear.

You go past the fear because you got to expel all the shit out of you to be the lightest possible, to flee or to fight or do whatever is needed. This is the working of the cold shower and Duncan, if we go to the breathing, the breathing does the same. It has been researched in the university showing that twice as much adrenaline comes in, twice as much adrenaline than somebody who is going in fear into its first bungee jump. Wow. Wow.

Yeah, power. I love it. This is why a lot of us comedians, we have to take shit before we go on stage. It's the same thing. Your body wants to purge itself because you're feeling this thing that you've got to do. Okay, I have to know, I'm a dad, I've got two kids, and both of my kids, they're not cold. I know you have six, that's one of the many things I love about you.

But my kids, actually I was taking my three-year-old to preschool the other day and it's cold here, it was cold, and we're about to go in the car and he goes, Dad, can I tell you something? I'm like, sure. He goes, I love the cold. I'm like, I'm going to interview him off. Anyway, I have to ask you, do you put your kids in a cold shower or do you do cold exposure therapy with your children? They do that by themselves.

And I never push nobody. That is the best way to push somebody to do it, by showing. I show that I'm happy when I go into the cold, that I'm relaxed when I go into the cold, that I have so bloody, so much energy afterwards, that I'm crazy about life. A kid understands the craziness about life. They are crazy themselves. They are not into the thinking. They are into doing.

They are past. In the brain, they are past. When you go into the cold, you get into the level of the child, of the love, the love for life as it is here in the moment. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yes.

That's it. It's so cool. Now, this is something, and I'm sorry if you've been asked this a million times, but I just want to hear it from you. There's this, I don't know if it's an urban myth. I know we can get hypothermia from jumping in cold water, but some people say your heart will stop. You could have a heart attack, cardiac arrest if you jump into super cold water.

Is that a myth? Or can you actually die from jumping in water that's super cold because of your heart? No. What I say, you've got to go gradually because of going dressed up. All the time, our vascular system, which is like 75,000 miles inside, everybody of us, capillaries, arteries, veins, they contain millions of little muscles, yes? Yes. They have a function.

They got to act upon weather conditions. But because we always cover it up, those millions of little muscles are not well trained. They cannot deal with the impact. So what I tell people, go and start with 15 seconds cold shower. And then the other day, 30 seconds, and then up till you get to two and a half minutes, is when you are ready to jump in any frozen lake airy or the North Pole or Antarctica. Yeah. It doesn't matter because we are built to endure that physical impact anytime.

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where we put some lunatic on a pedestal and then murder for them, murder for them. Let me draw the connection between what you're teaching and how that poses a threat to centralization or to this insane thing that humanity keeps doing over and over and over again. Yes, exactly. What I show is that we are able to guarantee a much deeper control over the hormonal system, human system and the power system and the hormonal system is what makes us, if we have a better control, able to balance out what makes us happy. That is dopamine serotonin, it is endorphine, it is a cannabinoids.

We are able to control that much better. I've shown this in science. So that's number one. If you have much more control over a happiness, you can control it, then a happy man doesn't go to war. A happy man is not into possession. He doesn't need compensation for something he cannot feel. He thinks, I'm not happy, so I need something to be happy.

But we are built to be unconditionally happy. We got those tools. So I show that in science. So I bring it, hey, there is an absolute autonomic control possible or to the level of the autonomic nervous system, we are able to control our endocrine system, which is the pharmacy within us, the dopamine endorphine serotonin, cannabinoids, opioids even. I showed it in Detroit. It's not so far from where you are, I think.

Where are you? Well, I'm up in the mountains of North Carolina, but yeah, Detroit is closer than California. But yeah, so yeah, you're talking about the good stuff. That is one. A happy man doesn't go to war, and a happy man is not into possession. He is just happy. But people lost the ability to guarantee happiness for themselves and their children. I am bringing it back.

Yeah. Yes. That is the nativeness of ours. Nativeness. Yes. We are, we should be in harmony with nature. Yes. Yes.

The trees expel oxygen. We expel CO2. We give the tree the food. Yes. And the tree gives us food. Yes. We are exploiting, tearing apart our own environment, and by which we become disturbed. We become alienated through this mind thing, colonization, centralization, politics, bollocks,

whatever they are doing. It is out there, not in harmony with nature. It is for a short-term profit. They try to compensate for their not being able to control their minds. Okay. Is this a conspiracy? So much money is made from war. And if so much profit is made from war, then it does not serve the military industrial

complex of any state to teach or put out into the world the possibility that you can be happy minus having to buy some mansion or a nice fucking car, whatever the crazy thing is. Is there, do you think there's an active conspiracy to keep people disconnected from nature, to keep them away from this consciousness that you're talking about? I think they just do not control this power of evolution called industrialization, which was sparking our minds in a different way than we can control. But now I tell you, now we get to where we were in the beginning of the conversation.

How can we learn to control? Can we control now what we never have controlled? And that is to bring a society where people have control over happiness, strength, and health. Let me explain a little bit more. Okay. It is 50 years ago, a US or the world sent a rocket to the moon, Apollo, 1968 or something. It's like more than 50 years ago.

And so that is 50 years ago. And all this, Kinep, Canaveral, Houston, the capsule, the rocket, and all, all that is less than we got right now in an iPhone. Yeah, right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yet the iPhone is the fruit of our minds.

Right. And it affects our minds. So the neurology, which invented that thing, is now able, is 10 times more than say 100 years ago. Yes. And you can see that from the outside, but from the inside, now we have found that we are able to activate 100% of our own brain. Right.

And we are able, I showed that, I'm just a pioneer, but I show what everybody actually is able to do. I show to go inside, it was impossible to go into the deepest part of the brain willfully. It was not, never showing. And then I came and I showed the robust activation at will into the area where we make opioids and cannabinoids. That is the deepest part of the brain, robustly, not a little bit, but they threw like ice water over me and I could make my skin temperature not going down because I did not want to.

That is the power of our mind if we control willfully, without moving, the deepest part of our brain, who then activates very powerful hormones, a lot of energy, just without moving. And that is, if we are able to go into the deepest of the brain, then Duncan, tell me, where can we not go? Right. Right. Right. I see what you're saying.

Yes. And that is the area where we have gotten now, it has been showing in science, so it is irreversible. It is there, only the old paradigm makes money of all these people and people becoming sick, our clients, to the industry and people believing who are in fear, fear is having no control in yourself and being told always the same narrative. Yes. And thus you have no independence. You don't think for yourself.

And now, if you learn to control your own mind, because you are the rightful owner, like everybody of your own mind, to become happy, strong and healthy, which also resides those departments in our brain. The happiness is the hormonal system, the health is the immune system, and the power, the energy, that is the adrenal axis, and we all can control it by our will. That is now where we have gotten. So last thing I say about this, and then we keep on with the conversation, is that we have gotten to the threshold of the unlimited power of the mind.

Okay, the threshold. In science, this is documented as well, but it's a mystery. You will have people with late stage cancer, they go in and get scanned, it's gone. And they study these people because they want to understand, what happened? What did you eat? Where were you? What did you do differently than what you're doing now? And they have yet to unlock it.

So when you say threshold, do you think you can go even deeper, like that there is a possibility? So have you? Oh, absolutely. I'm only starting now. Wow. I'm only starting. I found out something that is not in the books. I do that all the time, by the way, with the science.

I showed, in 2014, I showed very clearly, in comparative studies, by injecting us with endotoxin, with the bacteria, how to control the immune system, which up till then was considered to be impossible. And then suddenly 12 people, after 16,000 people becoming sick in the same experiment, suddenly 12 people, 100% not sick. Right. So that is very bad for the pharmaceutical industry. Sure.

Because if people don't become sick doing this shit, or bringing down the inflammation, which is almost scandalous, what is happening, because inflammation is the cause and effect of every disease. Right. And we showed in 2014 to bring it down drastically through these controlled breathing techniques within a quarter of an hour. So this is science. So this is science.

This is one first breakthrough in science I showed, to go into the autonomic nervous system, into the innate immune system, which, by the way, is a great issue right now with the COVID. Yes. And nobody is talking about natural methods. It's all vaccines. It's all, this is the disease. So a part of that, I go and I showed in different studies, how to control the mind.

How to control the deepest part of the brain, how to enter into that, and to activate the opioids. Opioid crisis, half a year ago, they declared 500,000 people, they died of the addiction and side effects of the opioids. Yes. And now I have found a natural way to activate the opioids within us. Right. And I showed it in science.

Of course, they will not take it up directly. But you know, even if the lie is fast, the truth will overtake her. So I am into that battle to change the psychology, guys, we found it. We found the shortcut. Don't go all the way around because you're going to be very tired. You're not going to reach your goals. I found the way and I want to share it. So I use the BBC.

I got just 12 programs on the BBC One and BBC Three and Hollywood film is coming. I want and you're everywhere. Yes. And now this, yes, Duncan, we are going to dunk it. And so many more studies I showed a part of what was considered to be possible. It is now there, the autonomy over our body and mind. We have found it. We don't need directors, governments, presidents, kings, queens, whatever they are, whatever

they call themselves. The battle is won. Peace is done. If you find yourself your own autonomy, you are the owner of your own mind and you are the captain of your soul. I love that so much. And I, you know, I, I'm fascinated with, I remember when I was in college studying psychology in the textbook, there was a picture of a ascetic's hand.

They had placed gauges or they were studying the heat of this person's hand. And apparently the person could change body temperature on one side of the hand, two degrees above on the other side, two degrees below. No, I did the 13 degrees. Well, you're, I, that's what I'm saying. The difference between. Yeah. And listen more.

Yesterday I had two people with reno condition. With what? That's a condition of when you put your hands in the cold, they become white. Okay. You know, the extremities. Yes. Okay. And they got to take pills.

It's always painful, et cetera. And nobody seems to know in the medical world what to do. I, I can cure them in two minutes. With breathing. Is it just breathing? Is this breathing is one, but to put him just two, just the hands, two minutes in icy water, then the rest of the body is not compromised. Then the body is able to concentrate, to focus on this.

And then it regulates, resets the adrenaline and all because it's dangerous. I see cold water. It resets the classical condition within two, two minutes. It's amazing. When you, I love your origin story and you were, you had some intuition to just start getting into cold water. And I wonder if you could talk about that a little bit. That intuition, that do you, are you a, you're clearly a spiritual person, but do you have

some sense of there being a divine consciousness or the thing that led you to where you are right now? I mean, you accidentally sort of become a kind of profit. You are driven by something that if I, we had to put a name on it, I would call it a greater will. What do you think that is? What got you into the water, cold water the first time? I think it is my mother.

My mother. Yeah. I always blame my mother sort of, but in a positive way, I love it. When I was born, I was born as one of the twins, only they suspected only one child to come. So they brought my mother away back to the recovery. And then they found out almost too late that there was another one. And I came to birth. I saw the light with my mother shouting in the cold of the hall, just before entering

the operation room to get me out by a cesarean. My mother wasn't fair, but she was also a believing God fearing person. She sat right there in all of fear and power. Oh God, let this child live. I will make him a machinery. Boom! Wow! There was the little shit, man.

Purple! Purple, almost suffocated in the cold of the hall. That's where I was born. And that invocation must have been tattooed on this nothingness I was at that moment. And that carried me, made me different of my twin brother, my identical twin brother. And that made me a searcher, a searcher. When I was 12, I was into psychology, Hinduism, Buddhism, the whole thing, you know? And five years later, I had become quite a thinking person.

Always debating, philosophizing, looking for esoteric answers, etc. And then I found one day, the cold water, it attracted me. I went in and then I had this feeling, if I have to put it in words, this is it, kind of feeling. Yeah. And it overwhelms you. It's like you being struck by a beautiful girl or a beautiful man, whatever is your sex wanting, doesn't matter.

When you are struck, you are struck. I was struck right over there and boom. When you are struck, then the other day you go back and you try to see if it happens again, this rush and this power and this unknowing feeling, sensation, and it did. And this is like 46 years ago, since then I've been doing it always. And then I began to understand the breath, because if I was breathing deeper, I got more control to stay longer inside the icy water. And then I began to separate the breathing, doing it at home, the same breathing I did

in the cold. Right. And then I saw all the lights, I saw, wow, wow. I could manipulate my blood, chemistry, all the deeper systems just by these breath holes. And I did that for 25 years on my own until somebody of the newspaper saw me doing things on the lake. Like I was doing splits and one handstands on, after icing, icy water, which normally paralyzes the body, sort of, you know.

I was doing crazy stuff. To me, it made me flexible and powerful. To me, the icy cold is a power. So it converts me, makes me strong, flexible, light, all that. And so, but I was doing this for 25 years on my own, because everybody was saying I was crazy. And then man, he goes into freezing water, you know, all that. Sure.

So, after the newspaper, I got this article out, television came. They came like 10 days in a row every day, like twice, different stations and all. And there, my career as a being a person on television, documentaries, articles, etc., etc., began to take shape, fly off. And then scientists began to look those documentaries, and they were saying, what this guy is doing is not possible physically, to our understanding. But he is doing it. Let's check him out.

Let's investigate research on him, and that's what they did. And then the ball began to roll. They saw me doing things in scientific environments, like 80 minutes standing in ice, and no shit delivering, no full control over core body temperature, 80 minutes, no problem, talking to everybody while I was being in the ice, nobody was seeing that I was in the cold. And they took the blood out of here, and they exposed a bacteria to my immune cells of my serum, blood serum. And normally, there is an aggressive reaction of the immune cells in my blood serum, there

was zero reaction, they had never seen it. So then they asked me, can you do this in life, like directly? We inject you with the bacteria and see what you can do, because 16,000 people could not do it. Maybe you can do something, so we can understand how to control the immune system better. They were just a hunch, and they asked me to do that. And of course, I want that, so give it to me, give me the injection, and they gave it, and I had a great time, I never had adverse reactions, I was in control.

And then they said, but you are the ice man, you are an anomaly. You are extraordinary, you are a super human. I said, no, I'm a simple guy, but if I can help humanity, I will become a hero any day, any moment. It's like a good man, he just arises when the opportunity is there to shine, to show no fear. So I did that, and then I trained these people, and within a couple of days, they were able to do what I was doing.

Wow, yeah, see, that's what I, that's what, when I, first of all, the first time I saw you was swimming through the icy water, and I thought it's fake. That's all I thought, I don't know how they're doing it, CGI, I don't know, there's no way anyone could do that. But yeah, that was, my next thought is like, maybe it's some kind of genetic abnormality in you versus other people, but you have, in this incredibly courageous way, really spent a lot of time with the scientists, because that's the language everybody speaks. I have to know though, on behalf of the, my psychedelic friends, what is your thinking

when it comes to psychedelics, LSD, mushrooms, D&T? Man, I took it off, I took it off when I was young, I took it off, I took, I took dosages, I read later, that could have killed a man like five times, five times the lethal doses. Wow. Like, I took a devil's weed, and, oh no, the Torah, yes, the Torah in Oksia, and a trope Bella Donna, I took them all, man, when it was not known to nobody, I was taken, because I was inspired by Carlos Castaneda, and Don Juan, and Matus, with the Yaki Indians, the Donal, and the Nagua, I was trying to find answers.

So I could, I had no money to go to Mexico back then, but then I found in the books that in the Middle Ages, the witches, they took Datura in Oksia, that's why they fly with brooms and all, you know, and I began to read about it, and then I found a herb garden in my park, and then I saw, recognized the Datura in Oksia, the a trope Bella Donna, and I still remember, I was there with three of my friends, we had decided after study to take it, and they were all like hesitating, I took them all, and took them in, and I woke up the other day naked in my house, so I don't know how I got there, but in between, I saw that people, you know, you get into a different consciousness, and that must have opened up my other part

of the brain, otherwise it's all surviving, or you die, something like that, since then after that, I took four times LSD as well, it's amazing, I did that before, but then after that, nothing anymore, no drinking, no smoking, like for 30 years, nothing, and then I took some wine, et cetera, but now Duncan, they have found out that if you take LSD, you see lightning off the whole brain, and now we do it with breathing as well, so that's why I always say, get high on your own supply. Right, it's the cleanest stuff, so okay, this brings me to a question I've been wondering, so Stan Groff, holotropic breath work, the claim being, just what you were saying, which

is you, and actually, this was something that one of my teachers, Ramdas, would say is there's something that can get you a million times higher than psychedelics that you eat, there's a way to do that minus all of that, so how would you compare like the holotropic breath work, holotropic breath work, and Ramdas, and all the gurus, now they want to give me an award on excellence in yoga in Bangalore, and I didn't go like twice already, with like 30, 40,000 people, things like that, why, because I got no time, it's all right, but I thank you very much, yeah, you know, a couple of days ago, or not a couple, like 10 days ago, a mother comes to my gate, and I'm there, working in the garden, and she comes with two children, five and seven

years old, both brain tumors, and she asks me, can you do something, and I say, this will raise the white cells in the child, because the child are innocent, not only innocent, they have a very direct activation, they have no inhibition in the mind, so they began to do the cold, and within one week, the white cells who need to be active, they rose like tenfold, the mother was crying through the telephone, saying, I can embrace you, and say, this is, this is thousand, million times more than what we can conceive by taking psychedelics, over psychedelics, and self-enlightenment, I say, fuck it, fuck it, heal somebody, that is the most psychedelic thing you can do, that is love, love was the greatest power of the universe,

now it's them, I'm healing, I'm healing millions of people now, through what, through showing them very natural little things that make them aware to connect with their deeper physiology, wherein they can heal themselves, wherein they can cast away the darkness of depression, where they can bring down the inflammation, so that is one, two, neurologically, I am showing that we have a crown chakra, the crown chakra is inside, it's called the corona radiata, the radiant crown, this is a nerve endings, inside our brain, it's physical, in yoga, it's called sahasrara, samadhi, satori, all that, you know, all the mystical traditions, disciplines, doctrines, they go for the crown chakra, the thousand detailed lotus, what the

rum doesn't say, thousand times more than psychedelics, all that, that is the threshold of the power of the mind, and now we found the keys to open it up, we are not only the corona radiata, but we are kings and queens all, because the corona is the crown, since the roman literature it has been known, the corona radiata, you know who told me this? No, that is Dr. Kevin Tracy, who is New York state healthcare man number one, he said, Wim, what you have been showing in science, that relates into the brain as being able to activate the corona radiata, and that is the the mystical part of ours, who we are, what we are, much more than what we think, we are able to transcend and to connect with our destiny, with the fulfillment of our soul. Okay, this is,

I have a question that I've always wanted to ask, because I, have you hear about this, samadhi as they call it, satori, I've seen, you know, videos of people going into it, their eyes roll back, they're like, it seems incredible, you clearly have experienced it, can you describe what it feels like? Oh man, it's fucking bliss, so it's something you fall in, and you don't want to come back, but you will come back, and they'll say, whoa, I get this all the time with the people, with the breathing, you see people just go into, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, and they just get into the deep trauma, they get and free the trauma, this is what happens when you go into the corona radiata, you go into a full activation of your brain, 100%, at that moment you go past

your conditioning, so I see a lot of people going into that state, and they lose control, because they have never been there, right, so they have no neurological pathways toward that, but if they do it once, they can do it another time, another, and then because you are doing it, you create neurological pathways with your will, then it gets within the willful control, so with that comes a new tradition, a new gateway, a new dimension known for us, and I'm into this area, together with the best psychiatrists, with the best of the DNA researchers of the world, with the best psychologists and people doing brain scans, I mean, this is fact, this is what they say, now we have the compelling evidence, compelling in scientific literature, of the

key components of the autonomous processes in the brain related to mood regulation, that's emotion, so we can bring our emotion to bliss from the trauma where it has been always tied to, we cannot transcend if we are still tied to our traumas, but now we found a way to unleash, to release our traumas, because I'm doing another study with cardiologists in Montreal and Hanover and Heidelberg universities, and they say, through these breathing techniques, we see in the heart, we make heart films, they can see the heart, we see that if you do these breathing techniques, you create an extreme contraction of all the cardiovascular system, and then extreme opening, like five times more blood will flush into the heart and into the brain,

that's why when people do these breathing techniques, it's five times more blood is flushing into the heart and the brain, it's amazing, it is an amazing feeling, it's the life force itself, and that's one, but then here comes the cherry, for the whole psychiatry, we are the future, and why is that? Because if you go into this extreme contraction of the cardiovascular system and the extreme opening, then you are shaking the cardiovascular system to the extreme, you know, every trauma happened in the past with us, even ancestral, which is still in our DNA, all that trauma has a cardiovascular imprint, so when something happens, it goes beyond your control, but it sets in to be stored

into the cardiovascular system as an imprint, by doing these breathing exercises, you shake off the cardiovascular imprint, which is the trauma, not only of this life, but also of the past lives, that's why I said the native is back, we are all natives, we get back into harmony with nature, outside, inside, innocent like a child, clean like a child, clean like a river, transparent here and now, and then we are able to get into the corona radiata, easy, and it's all not difficult, I'm just a researcher, I just got into with the professors, I'm a dropout of school, I work with a lot of professors, I teach them, it was Charlie, Professor Charlie from Sydney, who is a neurosurgeon, got his own institute, big time neurosurgeon,

he is lecturing all over the world in the universities, he came to my place, he said to me, Wim, you know more. Wow. Listen, I'm in, I'm on the Wim Hof train, I know people who've taken classes with you whose lives have been transformed for the better, they say that it just, it changed them forever, and I get it now, and I feel we're so lucky that you decided to go into that cold water, because nobody does that, nobody likes it, so one last question here, aren't you worried about accidentally becoming a guru? Like you're so charismatic, you're so, you're so alive, and this makes people magnetized towards you, but you're talking about how this method can help in the, hopefully a human humanity coming into a new way of sort of

living together that doesn't involve centralization, how do you teach decentralization through these methods while still being centralized? Isn't it a paradox, how do you get around that? Oh yeah, you know, I can live in the shit, but not being affected, and I see that, I see that, about the guru, say, no, I'm not a guru, or analyze the word guru, and you get two verbs, guru, two Sanskrit verbs, it is the bringer of light, I just fucking bring the light anytime where there is darkness or ignorance or not knowing or people being depressed, I do anything to rise above what people think is impossible to show that we are now meeting a time in time to become timeless, to enter into the soul, into a control of 100% in our brain, into being able

to guarantee happiness, strength, health, the control, the deepest control over our endocrine system, immune system, the power system, far more than in sign was stated, where in all the old paradigm is based because we don't know, I bring the knowledge, I give it to humans, when you or anybody like, when you have no idea what is the, they say, the Ford 2000 CX turbo with special injection, you never saw the thing, you never heard it, if you buy it, suddenly you see it everywhere, right, if this knowledge I bring, which is simplified guys, it is here, the science is done, it is here now time to wake up to 100% of your own brain, your happiness, your strength and your health, it's all yours, the rest is bullshit, so that's

the way we're gonna decentralize because those motherfuckers, they only work because they don't know themselves, they are part of the same yin and yang shit, the circle, and they think they are controlling us, but you cannot control a person who is fully in control. That is awesome, Wim Hof, thank you so much for your time today, and for all the work that you're doing for all of us, I wish I had a cold shower nearby, go jump in it right now, God bless you, thank you, I really appreciate your time. Another thing Duncan, we are doing the same, so bless you. That was Wim Hof everybody, you can find him at WimHoffMethod.com, the links are going to be at DuncanTrustle.com if you can't remember that link, thank you to all of our sponsors,

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