Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 665: Solooooooooo

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:21 So please do that. I do truly appreciate your support of my podcast, my family, and my secret God. Hello to you! I mean you! I can see you right there through your screen. You're beautiful. My God, look at you. I wanna kiss you. I wanna hold you at night. I wanna suck on that thumb. How come that never became a fetish? Sucking on other people's thumbs. I've seen it in movies.
Starting point is 00:00:56 I think it just goes for a man's thumb in a woman's mouth. Man does not suck a lady's thumb, let me tell you. A man will never suck a lady's thumb and gain that lady's respect. Now there was a time when, if you wanted to be viewed as a gentleman, that was how you would meet a lady, is you would place, gently place your thumb
Starting point is 00:01:13 in your mouth and nip the tip, which is where the term nip the tip comes from. But now, we don't do that, it turned into the handshake. And right away, this is what's really fascinating about that, and I love stuff like this, as soon as it shifted from the It turned into the handshake and right away This is what's really fascinating about that And I love stuff like this as soon as it shifted from the suckled of the handshake because for a man you would suck his finger Not his thumb. It was actually an insult stuck a man's thumb and it caused many a duel You know also the saying just the tip that comes from this tradition which happened in saying just the tip. That comes from this tradition, which happened
Starting point is 00:01:46 all over the world, which is a fascinating thing about it. Even in petroglyphs throughout the world, you could see these incredible formations showing either a thumb or a finger being gently sucked on. It wasn't a kiss. So it did turn to the cheek kiss. People didn't like that. It felt empty and weird. And then to adjust, we did a handshake, which is really, if you think about the handshake itself, the hand is like a mouth encapsulating the
Starting point is 00:02:18 other person's hand. And so that's the story of the handshake. But when they stopped doing the just the tip suckling, many of the plagues of those days went away. Because what was really happening is people were getting sick because they didn't really use toilet paper back then. It was too expensive to make toilet paper. So people view it anthropologically. You can read Frasier's Golden Bow or or bow as some people say, he talks a little bit about this and
Starting point is 00:02:50 he looked at it as a kind of post-proto-hominated cleansing of another person's hand by sucking some of the shit off their fingers. Are there some like primitive cultures that are still doing that? No and we don't use the term culture anymore. We just say primitives. Cool. But the... Um... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And I want to talk about something that's going to disturb you a little bit. So if you are of the sensitive type, once you head on out of here, don't take offense to it.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Now it's okay for you to be sensitive. We all are sometimes. Every one of us, I hate that term snowflake, is a derogatory insult. What's more beautiful? What's more beautiful than a precious little snowflake falling through the air, soon to hit the ground, melt, turn into water? That water will be absorbed into the earth, suckled up by the tree, suckled up by the flower, transformed into the rose, or even better evaporate
Starting point is 00:04:05 It will completely transform its form. It will go up into the air become a cloud And then maybe it turned into snowflake again So if you're a snowflake, you're not gonna like this you bitch Because we're gonna talk about something real fucked up Real fucked up. Real fucked up. And you know what triggered it? I've discovered a new podcast that is fucking incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Incredible. So, have you listened to the Martyr Made podcast? No. Oh God! It is, you know, it's like, it's ear glue. You can't stop listening. It's ear glue. You can't stop listening. It's incredible. Like the stories, the historical stories in this, you know, I don't usually get into this shit.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You know, I have a lot of friends who are into this. I did read or listen to an incredible audible on Genghis Khan, which I really enjoyed. Every once in a while I do get into history and stuff, but usually somewhere along the way, I don't know, I get a little bored or you get a sense when you're reading the history book that it's not like some intentional conspiratorial concealing of certain aspects of history, but you do get the feeling that you're kind of getting a one-sided perspective. Like you're just getting one view and you're also getting the feeling
Starting point is 00:05:35 that this is sort of an academic view. Not that that's bad necessarily, but it's not juicy is what I mean. This guy, go to about and I'm mortified because I DMed him and fanboyed out. I don't not remember his name That's how fucking powerful the man is. You don't even have his name on there. You don't even know my fucking name Will you google who is the murder me podcast I'm not gonna look at my DMs where I DMed him Darrell that's his name. Daryl. This guy Daryl. Like number one his voice is just perfect for talking about dark history. Daryl Cooper.
Starting point is 00:06:20 It's just fucking great. Like so I don't I I thought my brother-in-law recommended it to me, but he didn't. So now I have no idea where I found it, which is very strange. I guess that the algorithm served it up to me. It recommended an episode about Jim Jones, Jonestown. And, you know, I love cults. I love cult documentaries. And I've seen
Starting point is 00:06:48 pretty much every cult documentary there is that I'm aware of. I'm sure there's some out there I haven't seen yet. Most recently, the one I enjoyed the most was the Mother God documentary, which is incredible. Mother God was, this is a crazy story, she was the manager of I think a McDonald's, you know, and that says a lot about a person in a good way. Like it says, hey, yeah, I'm going to fucking try to like make it, you know, there's a weirdly entrepreneurial spirit to someone who's going to like try to rise up the ranks of fucking McDonald's. And that's a a shitty brutal fucking job You know and I mean this like to rise to the position of manager to fucking McDonald's have to deal with that shit I have to deal with being the fucking middleman between the
Starting point is 00:07:35 Underpaid employees and McDonald's because they get minimum wage pretty sure Yeah, and I'm not positive about that you get minimum fucking wage And I when I haven't eaten at McDonald's in a long time, not to brag, I go to In-N-Out. But when I go to In-N-Out or McDonald's, and in my fantasy, the In-N-Out employees are getting like $50 an hour, because the burgers are so good,
Starting point is 00:07:59 I'm pretty sure that's not the case. But I like to imagine that, so I can fully enjoy the fast food. But the, you know, you go to a McDonald's. My friend, my God, one of my best friends in high school, and I really respect this dude. I always will. I'm not going to say his name. He got a girl pregnant. He had a kid. And dude, this guy, every morning, man, he would wake up at like three to go work at a fast food place to pay for his fucking kid.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I mean, this guy was like, probably at that time, he was like less than 20. And he was like working fucking hard for his family. Really hardcore, really cool. But so you go in there and like, number one it's dangerous. Because like a lot of the Instagram videos I see, and I think it has to do with the diet, people come in there and they lose their minds.
Starting point is 00:09:01 They lose their fucking minds. You give them the wrong milkshake or whatever, the fries aren't out when they want it, or the fries aren't the right way or whatever. They'll their minds. They lose their fucking minds. You give them the wrong milkshake or whatever The fries aren't out when they want it or the fries aren't the right way or whatever. They'll attack you They'll attack you like wild fucking animals. They'll like try to throw shit at you. They'll throw the cash register They have these full zombie meltdowns because they're not getting the drug and these employees are getting minimum fucking wage And they're acting like these employees are personally trying to ruin their fucking lives by not getting them some greasy slop. Well anyway,
Starting point is 00:09:30 Mother God, as she was to be called, is a manager at a fast food place and takes MDMA. Has a revelatory breakthrough experience. Whatever that former entrepreneurial identity was gets melted down by the MDMA has a revelatory breakthrough experience. Whatever that former entrepreneurial identity was gets melted down by the MDMA. I do think that psychedelics will give you a kind of temporary enlightenment. I think that a lot of people who take psychedelics don't want to believe that happened to them or they want to think like it was just the drug.
Starting point is 00:10:07 But I don't think that at all. I think it actually gives you a glimpse of what would happen if you had more control over the operating system that you call your identity or something else took control of it, reconfigured a few things, and boom, you get this enlightenment. Did she work at McDonald's? Yeah. Okay, Carlson worked at McDonald's before she became a religious leader. Okay, so Carlson, that was her name.
Starting point is 00:10:35 So she gets some glimpse of the true nature of the soul. And I love thinking about that night. You know, you're taking ecstasy, you're managing a McDonald's. That's wild. That's a wild night. You're tired. It's a hard job. You're thinking about, like, some shitty employee. You've probably been indoctrinated into the corporate system enough where you actually are mad at them.
Starting point is 00:11:04 You're not thinking, like, why would I expect anyone to work hard for minimum wage, for not a living wage? You're not thinking that. You're just like, this fucking... I can't believe Zeke is calling out sick. That motherfucker, does he not understand that we are our work? Does he not understand that we are our work? Does he not understand that? Doesn't he know like he could rise up and like one day like become an assistant manager?
Starting point is 00:11:32 You know like she's thinking that and then boom she gets some really good ecstasy and I like to think about the manufacturer of the ecstasy I like to think about like somebody some of the ecstasy. I like to think about like somebody, some lunatic chemist, the modern mad scientist, these people right now in secret underground laboratories all around the world. No one gives any credit to these people. These are lunatics. They are in weird-ass fucking home labs. they are like figuring out ways to assemble the ingredients for some of these psychedelics which are very difficult to get because of the prohibition and so sometimes you actually have to synthesize the ingredients
Starting point is 00:12:17 themselves. It's crazy. Some of them, maybe some are listening right now as their beakers are bubbling and they're just brewing up these consciousness shifting potions, these strange chemicals that will flow into the bloodstream of humanity and actually have and will continue to warp and change the zeitgeist for better or for worse. You don't know. I like to think for better, but then there's Amy Carlson. Pull up Amy Carlson's Corpo pick. The one in the pink right there. No, in the pink. No, go back. It was the one right before that. That one. I'm pretty sure that's a Corpo pick. Yeah. There she is. That could be the day she took that ecstasy.
Starting point is 00:13:09 She, so she, some chemist didn't know what they were doing. They were just making a batch of Molly. And then that batch of Molly flows flows out through whatever illicit bizarre trafficking conduits drugs or traffic through throughout the world this invisible capillary system of psychedelics and blow and cocaine and it lands in Amy fucking Carlson's purse and Amy Carlson
Starting point is 00:13:44 Slurps this shit back, merges with the divine, and begins to think that she is God. Which, arguably, if we're going to create a unified, holistic kind of God, it's—I think you have to kind of say, well we are all God. We don't have the potency or power of God, assuming God is omnipotent and all that. But because, you know, God is a totality, then we must be part of God, which is the classic schizophrenic enlightenment problem. As you get the sort of manic enlightenment and you glimpse that reality, but in the glimpsing of the reality you adhere to your former
Starting point is 00:14:31 individualistic worldview and the next thing you know, you're the only God, the one true God or Messiah or the chosen one. So that's the problem and a lot of people would say that's because you didn't take enough of the drug, that now you still think you're a you. You haven't merged into the full totality yet. And when you merge into the full totality, many people report this experience on 5-MeO-DMT. You are gifted this remission of individualistic subjective consciousness. It's like when you're in the middle of a weird fucking dream. And you wake up for a second. And the dream kind of sucked.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Oh, that was a dream. Oh my god, thank fucking god I didn't set my neighbor's house on fire. That's great. And then you fall back asleep and you're like, ah, fuck you, burning down your house. So this is the sort of waveform of pre-enlightenment, I guess you could say. You sort of get these little miniature glimpses of it
Starting point is 00:15:41 and then you sink back into the dream state of your life and you get these miniature glimpses of it and sink back into the dream state of your life. But the problem is, which is why in spiritual circles and in the psychedelic community, you get these examples of these messianic, egomaniacal cult figures who emerge because they haven't gotten the full dip. They've come back dripping God juice, but they still got their ego, their identity, and they become absolutely convinced that they are God, they know the way, or that they
Starting point is 00:16:11 are in direct contact with God, whereas other people are not, and boom, that's Amy Carlson. That's the gift that this chemist gave to the world, is Amy Carlson, a kind of, I guess you could say, demi goddess who had some charisma, had some entrepreneurial spirit, and what's really fascinating about this cult as opposed to other cults is that whereas like you get Jim Jones, you get Manson, they weren't marketers. No one's gonna say Jim Jones was like what you would call a classical marketing person. He didn't know about Etsy. There was no Etsy. There's no branding there. Jim Jones was charismatic. I think you could argue he's like the Elvis of cult leaders. But Carlson is a modern-day cult leader and
Starting point is 00:17:00 so Carlson utilizing, utilized the internet in the same way that, God, what's his fucking name? Oh God, what's the name of the cult? Sounds like a shampoo. Oh God, oh God, I can't believe I can't remember the name of it. NXIVM, NXIVM was another example of this, which is Keith Renier, Reniery,
Starting point is 00:17:20 who was an entrepreneurial cult leader. Who, both of them, what they both have in common is a wild confidence based on nothing other than confidence. So they like, and that is a really specific kind of dumb or ignorance, I guess you could say, which is you manage to, without having any real skillset other than charisma to just think that you are the best at everything. You don't really, you don't have the neurotic thing or you don't have, as far as I'm aware,
Starting point is 00:18:02 you're not getting a lot of imposter syndrome, you're not getting a lot of imposter syndrome, you're not getting a lot of like, this might not be like ethical what I'm doing, because like underneath this exterior messianic persona, it's just a kind of old can of Vienna sausages, just slimy sausages down there, confused muddled sausages. But you've recognized that all you have to do is act like an expert and people will think you're an expert. That's what they both had in common. And so using her charisma and drugs,
Starting point is 00:18:38 this cult forms around Amy Carlson. And to me, that's really remarkable. and I think the HBO documentary Love is One, The Cult of Mother God, did such a fantastic job of illustrating the nature of a cult, which is where it's like most people view a cult as a top-down situation. The leader controls the members with an iron fist, they don't catch a more subtle angle, which is that the members trap the leader in the role. So once you're in the role of the messianic figure, once you've really put it out there that you're communing with the divine, then the members of the cult expect that out of you.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And God help you if suddenly you're like, you guys, you know what, it was mania or I just wanted to play around with being an all-powerful being. As it turns out, that's not me at all. I don't really want to do this anymore. And so there's a one, so her followers, this group of followers form around her and it's a party like that's the other thing about them as opposed to some other cults Like I do feel like the branch Davidians and Koresh Partied, but I don't know that for sure. I know they're banging Next scene was a sex cult next scene was a sex cult. They were definitely banging getting high
Starting point is 00:20:03 Jim Jones was getting high and banging, but the cult was not allowed to bang and get high, as far as I'm aware. Is she the first woman cult leader? No, not at all the first woman cult leader. There's been others. She's the first beautiful woman cult leader because she is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Look at that symmetry. Dude, it's kind of one of the dark aspects of our culture that unfortunately the cult leaders are inevitably dudes. And I feel like, I just can't imagine something more incredible I just can't imagine something more incredible than meeting a woman who said she was God, somehow demonstrating that to me via some, like, God knows what, parlor magic, real telepathy, I don't know, communing with my inner spirit. And then being like, you know, Duncan, I think you're ready for me to suck your dick.
Starting point is 00:21:07 It's like, what could be better? What could be better? Literally, you think it's God blowing you. Like, holy shit. That is winning the lottery a million times over. And Buddhism's ideas, you get the human life, that's an incredible thing But if you get a human life and on top of that a goddess a literal goddess not like I think you're a goddess But this is a goddess demonstrating psychic paranormal abilities a massive following is sucking you off Speaking in tongues, maybe you're speaking in tongues while she does it. God, ala singa la dee, oh, subash, ala linga,
Starting point is 00:21:46 da la loo, la lee, alai, alai, alai. If she's sucking you off and speaking tongues, she might be God. Well, dude, I mean, listen, or God knows what, I mean, there is a liminal space that exists in this world. It's those moments of synchronicity, those moments where something happens so far outside of your understanding of the way things could possibly align, the things that make you
Starting point is 00:22:10 think it's a simulation, the things that make you wonder, is this a dream? These things, much like dreams, easily forgotten. You don't really remember them. You tend to forget these things because they're in this liminal space. They don't fit in, right? And in that liminal space, there are whole communities that exist. There are whole shadowy communities. There are solitary individuals. There are all kinds of people who explore those liminal spaces, know how to work within them, and they don't fucking forget the shit that happens to them.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And these are the cult leaders. These are the magicians. These are the magicians. These are the shamans. These are the healers. They're out there, man, it's real. And whether or not what's happening is just some kind of illusion, whether it's people who have the ability to via their own confident madness infect you with their madness to the point where you begin to see things that aren't
Starting point is 00:23:12 there, or whether they're actually somehow have tuned into a human capacity that has yet to be quantified in any scientific literature, it's there. This is the realm of the cult. The cult exists in that space, and the moment you step out of default reality, which I might argue is its own cult, we live in a cult too, it's just a very big fucking cult. And because we live in a cult,
Starting point is 00:23:39 and we just accept things as they are, this must be real, this is the way it is, though everything that we apply to subjective phenomena is a set of symbols that were given to us by our parents, by schools that didn't exist thousands of years ago, most of them. There was no America in ancient Egypt. No one's talking about the president.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Talking about the pharaoh. And also we know these are transitory phenomena in the sense that the world is covered with a scattered remnants of cities, statues, religions. No one even knows what the religion is. God, my brother-in-law is telling me about the Cathars or something, just this religion wiped out by the Catholics. No one even knows if they're real anymore. You know, there's so many religions that just disappear, blip off the map. So, as America will eventually, as all empires will. But the moment you step out of default reality into a cult, into or even a religion, you enter a new cosmology and there's something refreshing and exciting about that.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Like your suspicion that maybe the secularist world wasn't completely an accurate depiction of what's going on here is confirmed via some mystical system. And that for a lot of people is the greatest thing that ever happened to them, because it's a very claustrophobic place, Steve, for reality, it's a very boring place. There's a set of topics you're supposed to cover in polite conversation, once you veer away from that, you're looked at as a freak.
Starting point is 00:25:23 So. But you want to believe too. That's the, like, when you say that it's past us and we don't really concentrate on it and then we forget about it like a dream, those times that we stop and we look, it's because we are searching for something and we're looking for something to believe in.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And it just so happens that it lines up with, maybe for some people, a cult. You know what I mean? Well, we're trying to go home, baby. There's a sense of homesickness. This is the existential despair that I think gets covered by a lot of philosophers. They, like, Sartre called it nausea.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Camus called it absurdity. There's a sense of absurdity here. Like, you've been dropped off by your parents at a sleepover you didn't want to go to, but also you have amnesia. A general feeling. This shows up in child psychology. The changeling.
Starting point is 00:26:11 This is the story of, in folklore, that sometimes elves, and I'm not sure why the fuck they do this, replace your child with an elfling child, a changeling. Saw that on Hellboy. Yeah, it's called the changeling fantasy. So it's very common for children to begin to fantasize that their parents aren't really their parents. They get a sense. ["The Changer"]
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Starting point is 00:29:00 This shows up in stories of the basket babies, the Moses, I think he was sent down the river. And you know, this, so like, this is probably pointing to that sense in the human heart, that this isn't quite home. This doesn't feel quite where we belong. Like something's off here, but we're not sure what. And so what, which is why, what occults call themselves
Starting point is 00:29:27 inevitably, the Manson family. Bingo, this is your real family. You've now come home, you found home, welcome home, this is home. Like whenever you like get love bombed by a cult, that's what they'll say right away, is you're home now, welcome home. Isn't this the family hour though?
Starting point is 00:29:50 My friend, the fact that you think that I called it the Dunkin' Trussell family hour because of some insane cult intent is just, I'm insulted. It's the first time you ever insulted me. Absolutely not. That's not, it's a family friendly show. That's the first time you ever insulted me. Absolutely not. That's not it's a family-friendly show That's what I meant. I apologize. Thank you. I will write in the journal that you gave me to not do that again Write it ten times. I will on each page, um the the
Starting point is 00:30:20 so I'm getting a little off track here, but, Martyr Made Podcast. You know, you see a lot of Jim Jones podcasts and shit, and we all know this story. But, the angle he's taking is actually an exploration of communism during the time of Jim Jones, which is brilliant because Jim Jones was a communist.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And the difference between that communism and, like, what most of us see, like, you know, Grimes with the Communist Manifesto or whatever, like, that in those days it was actually dangerous to say you were a communist. You know, like you could get fucked. And so it was more of an underground thing, more of a hardcore thing.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And I really liked that. I didn't know too much about the communist culture in those days, though I think we've seen little bits and pieces of it in like Oppenheimer and stuff like that. So we did a great job with that one. But now I've moved little bits and pieces of it like Oppenheimer and stuff like that. So he did a great job With that one and so but now I've moved on and this brings us to the topic of today's podcast He has a series on Jeffrey Epstein That's got me shook
Starting point is 00:31:41 It has got me fucking shook man. It me fucking shook, man. It really does. Like, you know, I try to avoid allowing my mind to get too absorbed into some of the sort of mainstream conspiracy theories, like specifically Pizzagate, for example, because it's more of a kind of unconscious feeling when I run into some of those materials, specifically like the Podesta emails,
Starting point is 00:32:12 you know, Podesta's art, for example. Like if you've seen John Podesta's art. Yeah, and the... Can you look up John Podesta's art? I feel like we pulled this up before, but I think it's good to show it. Get ready, this is fucked up. I mean, honestly, it's weird. art might get me like in trouble on YouTube and I'm gonna have to use different
Starting point is 00:32:30 Different kind of language for this but Podesta's got I don't know if this is John Podesta. I mean Yeah, yeah, he's got a lot of art like this and I've had a lot of art like this. And it's generally depicting children in some kind of what appears to be a bathroom or a tiled environment. That's the one I hate the most. Pull that one up with the kids
Starting point is 00:32:54 with their hands behind their back. Go down one more. Right there, pull that one up. Do I show it? I mean, I get, that's what's so fucked up about this is I don't know if we're allowed to show this. This is Tony Podesta, by the way, not John Podesta. Pull this up. This one? Yeah, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Oof. Right? Like, imagine if you came, if like you came to my house. I'm like, dude, come over, let's hang out. Play some video games. And I had that above the TV. How long would you stay at my house? How good are the drinks? I mean.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Now that says, this is from Tony Podesta's art collection photo of the Biltmore indoor basement pool. So now if you look at the, like, you know, go back, go back one more. Now if you look at the, um, the, the, the expression on the faces of these children, they have dirty hands and they don't, like, the third one over from the left
Starting point is 00:33:58 looks legitimately scared. And there's something really fucked up about this art. Okay, you take it down, I wanna look at it. They all got red shoes also. And they all got red shoes. You heard the red shoe theory, right? Yes. Yeah, it's horrible so okay, so I Don't like to get too absorbed into this shit because It it feels like such a negative rabbit hole that and I do understand why a lot of people become unhinged
Starting point is 00:34:26 in the sort of turning and facing this reality in the world. Which is why this Epstein podcast, because you think it, you know, Jeffrey Epstein, of notorious child sex trafficker, mysterious fortune. Jelaine Maxwell, his procurer, he's now in jail. He's flying around with like Clinton, he's flying around with like, who was it, which comic was he was flying around with. I don't remember. He's got an island. But the part that has stuck with me from this, from where I'm at in the podcast, very beginning, I will continue, I will not be a coward,
Starting point is 00:35:24 is he mentions Dennis Hastert. can you pull up Dennis Hastert? Former speaker of the United States pull up the Wikipedia So this is like this is what Nancy Pelosi is so Dennis Hastert 51st speaker of the United States House of Representatives, in office January 6th to January 3rd, succeeded by Nancy Pelosi. Okay, scroll down, scroll down. Okay, go up a little bit. In court submissions filed in April 2016, federal prosecutors alleged that Hastert had molested at least four boys as young as 14 years of age during his time as a high school wrestling coach.
Starting point is 00:36:10 At his sentencing hearing, Hastert admitted that he had sexually abused boys whom he had coached. Referring to Hastert as a serial child molester, a federal judge imposed a sentence of 15 months in prison, two years supervised release, and a $250,000 fine. Hastert was in prison in 2016, was released 13 months later. He became the highest ranking elected official in US history to serve a prison sentence. Okay, so here's, I'd heard of Hastert, most have, but here's the really creepy point he makes. In this age where politics is no holds barred, where you want to find anything you can to smear the opposing party, when it comes to Hastert, The last Nancy Pelosi Republican
Starting point is 00:37:09 Nobody's talking about it Why isn't that brought up? This is the point he makes you would think that they would be fucking pulling Hastert out of the closet you had a fucking like serial child molester in office the Republicans Not a single word that I've heard yet and
Starting point is 00:37:34 So now I you know, there's a lot of things you could get he doesn't like keep going into that because he's talking about Epstein but Or at least maybe he does later but the the point being like, what the fuck? Like, you know, when, when, first of all, and I don't know what the story is with Astor, actually pull his Wikipedia page up again, but usually when you hear about someone who's a child abuser, they don't stop abusing children.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Correct. So let's scroll down. Every one of these paragraphs should end with Andy was a serial. There it is. Sex abuse, keep going down, keep going down. Sex abuse scandal of federal prosecution. According to a 2017 interview with the two special agents leading the investigation, one each from the FBI and the IRS Criminal Investigation Division, Hastert had been on
Starting point is 00:38:21 the FBI's radar as early as November 2012, even before the FBI and IRS began investigating the suspicious cash withdrawals that were Hastert's downfall. So that was hush money. So he was like getting money, wait, taxpayer funded office of the former speaker to further his private business ventures, something that Astor was never charged with. So this motherfucker, you know, when you're writing that check to the IRS back in 2011, some fraction of that fucking money got suctioned out by this vampire and sent to a kid he had abused.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Think about that, man. Now on May 28, 2015, blah, blah, blah, unlawfully structuring the withdrawal of $952,000 in cash in order to evade the requirement that bank reports cash transactions over $10,000 in cash in order to evade the requirement that bank reports cash transactions Over $10,000 wait, that's gotta be wrong. Wouldn't it be a hundred thousand dollars? This is 952,000. Oh I see he did it like he was withdrawing like nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine dollars Yeah in late 2014 after being questioned about withdrawals Haster said that he did not trust Panks shortly afterward Haster changed his story saying did not trust Panks. Shortly afterward, Hastert changed his story, saying he was the victim of extortion by,
Starting point is 00:39:49 victim of extortion? That's a good way to spin it. Wow, a victim, of course! Oh my God, are you okay? I'm sorry. That's like you bite somebody and they're like, they hurt my teeth. Yeah, yeah, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:40:03 So, now, yeah, what the fuck? So, now, this, this shit is real creepy, man. And you have to, you know, there's things I don't know about Hastert, but if we just look at sort of like what we know about abusers of children, the behavior, it's not like they sober up. It's possible. They can get therapy.
Starting point is 00:40:40 It is possible. But generally, it seems to be a lifelong affliction. They always have those thoughts. This is why we have a registry of sex abuse, of abusers. Because you want to know if you live next to one because there's some probability that they're not going to stop. So this brings into question a lot of fucking things. Specifically, like, did he continue doing this in that position of power?
Starting point is 00:41:12 And if he did continue doing that in that position of power, who knew about it? Who fucking knew about it? And that is so spooky. Because when you think about any like sex abuse scandals, Catholic Church being the one most people cite. I think there's a pretty good explanation for what's going down there, which is it's a contagion.
Starting point is 00:41:41 You know what I mean? Like it's it lives in secrecy. It generally involves somebody not wanting to come forward to say this has happened because they think they will lose their job, they won't be believed, they'll ruin the church, they'll ruin the family, they'll ruin the party in this case. I mean, the political party, not the... Not the party party. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Like you're saying earlier, they don't go after him because all their hands are dirty. Yeah. All their hands are dirty. And that's, if you notice, the Me Too movement was going strong until the kids stuff started being brought Up then it all of a sudden went away, dude so yes, and and so the when like Which brings us to like, you know, one of the themes in the pictures on Tony Podesta's fucking wall dirty hands
Starting point is 00:42:41 yep, and so like the the dirty hands. And so like the cult... It was the Tom Hanks hanging on when he's... Yeah, the dirty hand. The mark of the dirty hand. Yeah, on the volleyball. Yeah. That's what they're saying. Right. So now because this is a... this sort of bullshit thrives in shadows, it's fungus. It depends on darkness. It depends on darkness.
Starting point is 00:43:06 It depends on secrecy. It is, you know, getting implicated into it, it's not like you're necessarily gonna do like eyes wide shut. It's, I think it's a lot more subtle than that. There's little like glimpses of something that's off. A feeling, generally.
Starting point is 00:43:32 You gotta trust your instincts, but there's a sense like I'm not sure that this is right. If you, this is the beginning of this vampiric game of footsie with a demon, which is like, so okay great, they're not gonna fucking say anything about that thing I just did, which means I can push forward a little bit more, and push forward a little bit more,
Starting point is 00:43:52 and push forward a little bit more, and then before you know it, you've become actually implicated versus just being on the outskirts. And the moment you get implicated, you become an insider. There's horrible things about being implicated. You can now be extorted. You can now be controlled.
Starting point is 00:44:10 But there's some advantage to being implicated, right? Because in the implication, you gain going to send you to jail. It's going to send you to jail and you don't want to go to fucking jail if you've been hurting kids. You don't want to go to jail. But God help you if you go to jail as a child abuser. I saw this documentary, man, you know, one of these like hardcore prison documentaries. We marked that down. I don't think we could say that. But in the cell across from him, I believe he rips his sink out of the wall, somehow uses it to bash his own door open,
Starting point is 00:44:59 and then to gain access to the person's cell where he kills them. So man, that's a good way to keep secrets going, right? That's a great, if you really want the skiff, which is like, you know what I mean, the hermetically sealed area where you can talk about government secrets. If you want some kind of sociological cultural skiff, there's the fucking skiff right there, man.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Once you get into that fucking thing, you're not getting out. You're not getting out. And so this is the honey trap, right? And this is what, like, you know, this is where I think where I ended in the Martyr Made Epstein episodes. This is the, this is the,
Starting point is 00:45:42 you're at the party. You're looking around. These girls... They're nice! They seem kinda young! Right? And so... You're drinking. You know what I mean? You didn't ask...
Starting point is 00:46:00 how old they were. Because you know, you're like, yeah I'm sure they're not gonna gonna have young flirty girls at this party. I'd be fucked up. Take some of that ecstasy, take some molly, same shit she took. Next thing you know you're locking lips with an underage kid. You don't see the cameras. And you're owned. At that point, you're fucking owned. They got your ass. You should be asking for ID, man. And so,
Starting point is 00:46:36 this brings us to the deeper level of what I wanna talk about. And I'm gonna start off with something I've read before. I always thought maybe they do it on islands or because the laws are different. So even if they do end up getting, you know, oh, this all comes out, they don't get arrested because it's like, well, that was from a different country. Rules are different over there. Also, it's not easy to escape an island. Chapter 12 of The Bloody Sacrifice and Matters Cognate by Alastair Crowley. I've read this before but it's good to revisit it from time to time.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Of course, maybe pull up a picture of dear Crowley. Alastair Crowley, born Edward Alexander Crowley, was a British occultist and writer, and was greatly influential in the popularization of occult groups in the groups the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and Ordo Templi Orientis. To really understand Crowley, you have to be much more well-read than I am, but he's a very controversial figure and actually a very brilliant person, really good writer, and very prolific. So this is from his book, Lieber IV, Magic and Theory and Practice. I do recommend it if you're interested in magic Of the bloody sacrifice and matters cognate
Starting point is 00:48:13 Magic and theory and practice it is necessary It is necessary for us to consider carefully the problems connected with the bloody sacrifice For this question is indeed traditionally important in magic. Nah, all ancient magic revolves around this matter, in particular, all the Assyrian religions, Osirian. The rites of the dying god refer to this. The slaying of Osiris and Adonis, the mutilation of Addis, the cults of Mexico and Peru, the story of Hercules or Melcharth, the legends of Dionysus and Amithra are all connected with this one idea.
Starting point is 00:48:46 In the Hebrew religion, we find the same thing inculcated. The first ethical lesson in the Bible is that the only sacrifice pleasing to the Lord is the sacrifice of blood. Abel, who made this, finding favor with the Lord, while Cain, who offered cabbages, was rather naturally considered a cheap sport The idea occurs again and again We have the sacrifice of the Passover following on the story of abraham's being commanded to sacrifice his firstborn son With the idea of the substitution of animal for human life the annual ceremony of the two goats carries out this in perpetuity
Starting point is 00:49:23 perpetuity and we see again the domination of this idea in the romance of Esther where Haman and Mordecai are the two goats or gods and ultimately the presentation of the rite of Purim in Palestine where Jesus and Barabbas happen to be the goats in that particular year of which we hear so much without agreement on the date. The subject must be stuck, blah blah blah. hear so much without agreement on the date. The subject must be stuck. As St. Paul says, without shedding of blood there is no remission. And who are we to argue with St. Paul? But after all, that is open to anyone to have any opinion that he likes upon the subject or any other subject, thank God. At the same time, it is most necessary to study the business, whatever we may be going to do about it, for our ethics themselves will naturally
Starting point is 00:50:10 depend upon our theory of the universe. If we were quite certain, for example, that everybody went to heaven when he died, there could be no serious objection to murder or suicide, as it is generally conceded by those who know neither that earth is not such a pleasant place as heaven. However, there's a mystery concealed in the theory of the bloody sacrifice, which is of great importance to the student. We therefore make no further apology. We should not have made even this apology for an apology had it not been for the solicitude of a pious young friend of great estor—blah blah blah blah blah blah.
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Starting point is 00:54:19 Just go to hellofresh.com slash Duncan 10 FM and remember HelloFresh. It's America's number one meal kit. Anyway, you could read the rest of the essay. It's not long. But he's going right to the heart of something nobody wants to go to the heart of, which is that in our world, children are sacrificed for power. Now, obviously, and I think Louis C.K. has a terribly dark joke, and I'm sorry if he doesn't, and it's some other comic and he doesn't wanna be associated with the joke, but I think the joke
Starting point is 00:55:18 is something along the lines of, wouldn't you rather your kid be abused and murdered? Right, like obviously there's a hierarchy here. If you had to pick, you know which one you're gonna pick. But, and I don't think I made that joke as funny as he. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you gotta hear him do it, he's one of the greats. But the point here is that they're in the same
Starting point is 00:55:47 area they exist in the same area in the sense that You are extracting energy from an innocent being to satiate satisfy your own hedonic impulses One of them the way you're extracting the energy, is the literal destruction of the being. And it is interesting that, like, if we look at, like, Christianity, it's literally a religion that has at its nucleus the sacrifice of a at its nucleus the sacrifice of a son of God.
Starting point is 00:56:30 It's a child sacrifice ritual at the core of Christianity. And it's inarguable. For God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son. And it wasn't like I'm letting you guys raise this kid. It's like, I'm gonna let you guys raise him and then fucking torture him and kill him. Now, I think that's a simplistic view of Christianity. It's a literalist view of Christianity. But before you like recoil, it's important to note,
Starting point is 00:56:54 and that's what the point Crowley was making, is like child sacrifice is in so many different cultures, so many different mythologies. And so when you really start doing this kind of math, I wouldn't recommend it, this shit keeps me up at night. And you think about the profit of war, for example. Like if you want to strip away the reasons for war, for example. Like if you want to strip away the reasons for war, the cultural reasons, and just look at how much money gets made with war. So you can actually start quantifying
Starting point is 00:57:45 how much money you can extract from an average child. So for example, let's look up, let's look up, I guess just look up, I'm sure nothing will come up for this, but look up children killed in bombing Palestine. Oh, okay, 13,000 children. in bombing Palestine. Oh, okay, 13,000 children. Now look up, like what bombs are being dropped in Palestine? What kinds of bombs are being dropped in Palestine? Do a kind of rough quantification here.
Starting point is 00:58:23 New study shows Israel dropped 2,000 pound bombs. Okay, so now Google, how much does it cost to make an average bomb? On your computer. A military bomb. Okay, how much does it cost to make an average military bomb? How much does the military spend?
Starting point is 00:58:41 How much does, no, look up bombs sent to Israel one billion in bombs Okay, and then how much profit per bomb does weapons manufacturer make so it's a 20% markup on the bombs, right? So how much does like you know? How much does a does the average military bomb cost? There's got to be something out there. I'm just saying you could literally come up with a formula for how much money
Starting point is 00:59:14 these companies are making per blown-up child. And that's because they probably sell like the way hospitals do like $3 Tylenol or $7. There you go No, okay joint direct attack me a JDAM cost between 21,000 and 36,000. So what's what's that? That's uh, that's about if we're gonna do a 36,000 JDAM That means we're gonna make we start selling JDAMs at 36 K That means that and we're making a 20% markup, that means that we're making around $7,000 per JDAM. $7,000. That's the profit. Now, from that, you know, you can just sort of quantify how much money you're making per child blown up. It turns
Starting point is 01:00:02 into a literal quantification of the energy Crowley is talking about. And though I know this is an indirect kind of child sacrifice, I wonder what's worse. You know what I mean? Like in this case, it's like, oh my God, whoops, we accidentally blew up a bunch of kids. So there's a kind of meaninglessness there, isn't there, to this situation. It's kind of like, whoa, fuck, why were there kids there?
Starting point is 01:00:27 You should have gotten your kids out. What the fuck? That was a mistake that keeps happening over and over and over again. But no matter what, as long as these people are making profit off of it, they're extracting a metaphysical energy, which we call profit, and where it's
Starting point is 01:00:47 even darker, and this is the point I was trying to get to here, because we all pay taxes. We're paying for that. That means if you live in a country where weapons are manufactured, where bombs are manufactured that land on children, whether you like it or not, you are participating in a child sacrifice ritual. A little bit of money is extracted from your pocket to go to the implement the dagger, which will be used to stab, in this case shrapnelize a kid. You know for sure. Of all the bombs sitting in warehouses right now, who knows where they're gonna get shipped to, the other side of that bomb is a dead kid without question Which brings me back my friend to complicity
Starting point is 01:01:56 We are all complicit it doesn't matter if you are the most Anti war Activist out there if you are the most anti-war activist out there, if you are buying Starbucks, well I guess sales tax doesn't go to the federal government, does it? We could still drink Starbucks without killing a child, can't we? No, somehow Starbucks is still probably helping that,
Starting point is 01:02:24 with their donations and their, you know. Yeah. So that to me, I think, is maybe why the Epstein-Pizzagate stuff really hits hard for a lot of people. And they think it's hitting hard for like a fairly obvious reason, which is, my God, I don't want to imagine we live in a world where you're driving down the interstate and you see a, you all, and there's fucking people in the back of it. Oh, I saw that story. It must be a problem because I go to the airport and take a shit and on the fucking wall, they hang out, are you being trafficked?
Starting point is 01:02:59 There's signals and hand signals and shit you're supposed to do. So you don't wanna imagine, like I don't mind thinking about the invisible mycelial capillary network that transports psychedelics from clandestine laboratories into my brain. That's fun to think about. But what I don't want to think about is there's a whole other capillary system that's got fucking people and kids in it that are being sold into slavery. And that's real fucking creepy.
Starting point is 01:03:25 That's real fucking creepy. It must be a problem if they're putting that shit up at the airport. It's clearly a problem. And so then when you get it to the next level, which is I don't want to fucking think about some collective of very rich, powerful people who are hurting children. I don't want to fucking think about that either. And yet, every single one of us, whether you want to think about it or not, as long as you live, and I'm not saying just you know, I say something, where the fuck you live, if those bombs are going to a place, and there's, and one of those bombs accidentally blows up a kid.
Starting point is 01:04:09 You have participated in a global child sacrifice ritual, and that's not like Alex Jones shit, that's real. If you live in a country where weapons are manufactured and shipped overseas and dropped out of planes and they kill a fucking kid. All of us share a participation in that child sacrifice ritual. And I don't know that there's any way to push back or argue with that. I don't think anybody wants to think about it necessarily, but I started off with a Crowley essay because he's saying this is a fundamental quality, a fundamental aspect that's been around forever
Starting point is 01:04:45 in the way that humans interact with reality. It's horrible. But doesn't it cancel out when you, like whenever something bad happens, you put the Instagram thing, you know, whatever you're supposed to put around your photo to show that you're one of the good people. Wouldn't that cancel out what you did?
Starting point is 01:05:00 Dude, you're ruining what I was trying to get to. Not enough people are doing that. That's all I was trying to get to that. You fucked me up That's all I tried to I was trying to get to that okay. Fuck me up my bad Yeah, you got to put that thing around your thing. Yep. It's like a condom. It's a metaphysical condom the you know and again like when you know people You get like, you know remember that trend trend where people would say, I am, and I want to acknowledge this is on stolen land. No, I don't remember that one.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Shut the fuck up, you don't remember that? I remember when everybody turned their screen black. No, there was a trend, pull up Microsoft, this is like a weird thing that people tried for a second and it was so sorely rejected they stopped it. Pull up Microsoft meeting where they describe themselves. It's the weirdest, most surreal shit you've ever seen. Microsoft meeting where they describe themselves
Starting point is 01:05:54 and say I'm on stolen land. I think it was Microsoft. Microsoft, like they were doing some kind of presentation. Maybe say presentation. Yeah, okay, play that, play that. This is the craziest shit I've ever seen. And welcome to Microsoft Ignite. We've got a big day ahead and lots in store for you.
Starting point is 01:06:19 First, we want to acknowledge that the land where the Microsoft campus is situated was traditionally occupied by the Sammamish The do Amish the snow qualmy the su qualm ish the muckleshoot the snow Homish the tulalip and other coast Salish peoples Can you pause it there for a second she may sum those up when they say that shit? You know what they never say at the end of it? And we're giving it back. No.
Starting point is 01:06:46 They, and what they should say at the end of that is we're not giving it back. Like to be fully honest, you have to be like, this was occupied by all these people and Microsoft will not be giving it back to them. They never say that. They just say that's where it is, which almost makes it worse. Like if I was streaming a fucking video and I'm like, first I just wanna start off by saying, I am in a house that I broke into and I just took a shit all over their bed and jerked off into their refrigerator.
Starting point is 01:07:20 That's similar, right? No, it's not at all. That's actually nothing to do with it. But I did, that is where I am. Okay, play it again. Memorial, a people that are still here, continuing to honor and bring to light their ancient heritage.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Well, not there, they're not there literally. I mean, but they are honoring, so that feels good, right? But you can't say they're there, you can't really say they're still here. There's no like- Not in a physical way. No, you can't say they're on the Microsoft campus. Like someone didn't just ride by on a fucking horse
Starting point is 01:07:53 and like wave like, thanks for letting us move back in. You can't say that. They're not still there actually. They're not there at all. I'm guessing they're not on the Microsoft campus. If there are, I apologize if there's villages on the Microsoft fucking campus of are I apologize if there's villages on the Microsoft fucking campus The squamish tribe is there a plaque perhaps and there's probably a memorial. Yeah
Starting point is 01:08:14 All right, keep playing wines. I'm a senior program manager in our developer tools division I'm an Asian and white female with dark brown hair wearing a red sleeveless top Asian and white female with dark brown hair wearing a red sleeveless top. And I'm Seth Juarez, program manager of the AI Platform Group. I'm a tall Hispanic male wearing a blue shirt, khaki pants. Today we kick off two days of learning more about the latest solutions, exploring how these
Starting point is 01:08:35 kind of baseless things work. I'm confused with that, why do they have to say what they wear? Well, so the idea there is, so they were trying to create, The idea there is like, so they were trying to create, this is like when this shit was in full blast. And so what they were trying to do there, and this is when everybody was hiring these ethics people who were saying, okay, I love the meeting idea,
Starting point is 01:09:00 but first let's admit you're on stolen land, and in case people can't see you Describe yourself so they know what you look like. That was the idea. So inclusivity. That was the idea. So And honestly like the to me like Describing yourself I get I mean, I don't know it just seems like you know It added a lot of extra steps to something nobody was gonna watch or not watch.
Starting point is 01:09:29 You know what I mean? And- Wearing a blue shirt. Yeah, but this was where shit was getting real surreal and you would watch that and be like, what the fuck is happening? And then if you would, in those days especially, if you would articulate it kind of like,
Starting point is 01:09:42 I'm so, so not connecting with whatever the fuck this is People be like do what the fuck is wrong with you? Do you not fucking care about people but in context of what we were just talking about? It seems to me if we're gonna make an order of priorities and what you want to announce before your meeting Let's start With what's happening now. So you might say at the beginning of your meeting, I'm on the Microsoft campus, we make X amount of money per year, we pay this amount in taxes, and that money goes to bombs
Starting point is 01:10:21 that statistically have killed 500 children. Right, that seems more like this is happening now. You say that if you really wanna cut to the meat of what's going on in the world, or you could even say, this is the Microsoft campus. We use lithium in our computers. These lithium, the lithium in our computer, some of it is not, well, it's coming from, well, mines and the mines,
Starting point is 01:10:51 there's children mining the lithium in the mines. And so many of these children are not being paid and within our computers is the product of their work. And I'm wearing a green shirt. And you're white nation, you're a woman. Yeah, exactly. our computers is the product of their work. And I'm wearing a green shirt. And you're white nation, you're a woman. Yeah, exactly. Like this, so it's really interesting
Starting point is 01:11:11 and it makes me think, brewing under the surface of every single person, is there just a general sense of like, I'm participating in child sacrifice rituals via my existence in a place where I am funding the manufacture of weapons, and that's so intolerable, because we're all complicit that we're reverting to this stuff. You know what I mean? It's like somebody dressing, it's like,
Starting point is 01:11:49 it's like someone, you know, this is a wonderful thing in the 12-Step program, you make amends. Right, so somebody, I don't know, they like stole money from you at some point when they were addicted to heroin, and they come to you, and they're like, hey, I just wanna say, I was out of control and I made a lot of bad choices and one of them was I stole money from you and I deeply regret it and
Starting point is 01:12:11 I really value our friendship and I don't blame you for never forgiving me for this. And they're wearing a watch they stole from me while they're doing that. You know what I mean? Yeah, like so This um this I think it's good To really sort of contemplate this this aspect of the human psyche that wants to ignore this shit. Because in Buddhism, this is one of the root causes of suffering in a person's life, is ignorance.
Starting point is 01:12:57 So, you know, one thing I do, and I'm becoming more and more acutely aware of it, is like, I'll leave shit around the house. No big deal, whatever, you're in a hurry, fucking don't put your shoes by the door, you leave them by the refrigerator or something, you know, or whatever. Little messy moments, right, that add up and that's what makes a messy house. But the other day I was thinking, what if I shit like that in different parts of the house? You know what I mean? I'd wanna clean up the shit, right?
Starting point is 01:13:35 Obviously. But it's still kind of the same thing. You know what I mean? You're ignoring when you do things like that, that you're just basically, you might as well just like yell to your wife, hey, pick up my socks or whoever, right? That's ignorance.
Starting point is 01:13:56 And living in a world like that, where you are ignoring things that you're doing on a day-to-day basis that are causing problems, whether they're big problems or small problems, causes not just the people around you to suffer because they have to pick up your slack, but you suffer because some part of you is aware of it. And this is the beginning of all games.
Starting point is 01:14:24 This is the beginning of all manipulative games. This is the beginning of all fucked up relationships And this is the beginning of all games. This is the beginning of all manipulative games. This is the beginning of all fucked up relationships. This is the beginning of all things. Even though you know that you're doing this thing, you don't want to admit it to yourself. And this is where you come to this type of person, which is the mystery under themselves. And so the mystery under themselves person, they will like, you know, go and bang some girl one night and come back to their kids. And be like, why did I do that? Who am I?
Starting point is 01:14:58 And then try to forget it. They'll go suck some dude's dick somewhere and then come back to their kids. Geez, I don't know who I am. What was that? And then they forget about it. Ignorance. This is actively ignoring conditions as they are, right?
Starting point is 01:15:12 And so in the contemplation of the bloody sacrifice, if you look at its connection to Epstein, to P-Diddy, to P-Diddy, to all of these unsavory underground secret groups that are hurting children, maybe none of us should feel quite so innocent. You know what I mean? That's weird. Now I don't know what the answer is. I mean, it seems clear what the answer is. What helps me sleep at night better is,
Starting point is 01:15:55 although if I shit around the house everywhere, or I cheated on my wife, I'm not gonna get arrested. Why are you admitting this on the podcast? I'm saying if I did that. I'm not saying I did do them. Yeah, so well Well, I do shit all over the house, but it different bathrooms So there's not it's in designated spots But the point is I'm trying to say I'm not gonna get arrested for it
Starting point is 01:16:14 If I don't pay my taxes for the bombs that kill the children, I'm gonna go to jail Okay, so and they get like so, okay, let me Sometimes it helps to take, especially when you have this diffusion of responsibility at the level of diffusion that we're experiencing in our country, it helps to sort of, sort of like make it a little smaller, all right? A police officer
Starting point is 01:16:46 Says to you here's a knife I Want you to throw it at that kid If you don't do that I'm taking your ass to jail Do you throw the knife at the kid what color is the kid? Shut the fuck up! God damn it! So sick of this fascism! No, you don't throw the knife. You don't throw the knife? No.
Starting point is 01:17:15 No, and if you did throw the fucking knife, no one would forgive you. Everyone would be like, no, dude, you don't throw the fucking knife, you go to jail. Right? Everyone be like, no, dude, you don't throw the fucking knife, you go to jail. Right. But yeah, you know, this is sort of the reality. And it's brilliant because to wrap the dark part of the podcast up. If what Crowley is talking about is real, if there is a methodology for extracting energy from children for power.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Then there over time people probably gotten a lot of trouble for doing that. Houses burnt down, dragged into the street, drawn and quartered, burnt at the stake. So if you find a way to do that, but diffuse the responsibility to make everyone complicit, to create a system within which that energy could still be transferred in a much more subtle, in a much more deep, hidden, invisible way, you still achieve your goal, but no one knows who's at the wheel, you know? It's not some dark warlock living in a fucking castle,
Starting point is 01:18:37 and people are like, do you smell burning? Is he fucking burning kids again? Motherfucker. It's diffused at a global level all around the planet. So... The... The... Evil is decentralized?
Starting point is 01:18:53 It's decentralized. Well, I think absolutely. If we're going to look at good and evil, both are decentralized situations that tend to... I think evil and good can centralize, and when they do, it produces fantastic results for better or for worse. But whenever I let my brain wander through these dark landscapes, I try to bring it to a less literalistic place. And I think, okay, let's imagine this, because we know child sacrifice is a thing, mythologically, literally, but then also in a lot of these religions it's a good thing. Jesus, for example, an example of good sacrifice, though Jesus was 33 or 31 or something like that.
Starting point is 01:19:49 So from that perspective, you have to ask yourself, what would good child sacrifice be? Well, clearly not killing a kid. That's never going to be good. But what about the inner child? Right? Like that's what you start thinking about is like, you know, and this is also, I should have read this at the very end and Crowley did write in code and a lot of things like Crowley,
Starting point is 01:20:16 I think he has a famous quote where he said something like, I kill thousands of children every day and what he meant is he jerks off. But if you look at the very last sentence of this, of the first part of this essay. ["SHADOWS"] This episode of the DTFH has been supported by AG1. It's winter! You know what I did today?
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Starting point is 01:23:43 And so I think that's a fun thing to think about, is like, when we think about Isaac, when we think about Jesus, when we think about any of the mythological versions of sacrifice, what are they actually pointing towards? What are they really talking about? You know, they actually talk—when you hear the story of Buddha leaving his family to go get enlightened, when you hear any of these stories where there is the Bhagavad Gita, Arjuna is on the battlefield of Kuruksetra in between these great armies talking to Krishna, the manifestation of God and his friend, who's basically telling him, no, you fucking fight. Don't be a coward, fight. But these are, I'm looking out at my, it's a family feud. He's looking out at his people he like,
Starting point is 01:24:26 I mean this is India, but I'm just gonna sit, barbecued with as a kid. People he like, that's Uncle William. I don't wanna fucking kill him. What kind of person will I be if I do that? And Krishna is saying, no, no, no, no. You have to. It's your duty. It's what you are. It's who you are. And so from that perspective,
Starting point is 01:24:52 especially if you're looking at it not literally, I think there just is a point in every person's life where they have to take that part of themselves that's a child, that's ignorant, that's... I'm not talking about like the beautiful, innocent glory of a child that reminds us of the beauty of humanity itself. I'm talking about spraying the yogurt pouch on the couch. You know what I mean? I'm talking about watching a geyser of yogurt,
Starting point is 01:25:36 like a volcano, arc through the air and splatter all over a white couch, followed by laughter. Which is funny. But at some point, you can't be that anymore. That's the sacrifice I think that they're talking about. I think that if you were to look deeper into this shit, and I only illustrated the dark stuff to create balance, if you look deeper into this stuff,
Starting point is 01:26:07 the methodology illustrated by Crowley here is not about killing actual babies. It's about finding that part of yourself that you can't let go of. It's an ignorant, willful child, not willful in a cool way, wants to get its way all the time, wants to eat cookies all the time. It's weak, whiny, victim-y, blaming. You take that thing and you kill it. And you don't kill it because you're mad at it. You kill it because you want the world to be a better place. And that's where you get to
Starting point is 01:26:49 the part of this essay where he talks about incredible energy is released. Nothing can happen without sacrifice. What makes it good or evil is good as self-sacrifice and evil is sacrificing of others. Bingo! Perfect summation, that's it. And also self-sacrifice, like in a way that is actually like effective. That, you know, if you sort of, there's a real sentimental idea
Starting point is 01:27:24 when it comes to the inner child. People talk about you have an inner child, you have an inner child that needs love, affection, adoration, that needs to feel all the things that weren't given to that inner child by its parent. Your inner child is still there, it's covered up by an obscuration of dark toxic masculinity. You have to love that child with his self-care and use skin creams and lotions. That shit.
Starting point is 01:27:51 It's like, yeah, I don't want to deny, I think, you know, anyone who gets older, one of the cool things is you start realizing like, fuck, like there is a part of me that doesn't feel like it's aging. My face is, my body is, everything's shriveling and getting weird. But there's another aspect that feels brand new. today. BenMGym and GameSense remind you to play responsibly. BenMGym.com for T's and C's. Nineteen Plus to wager Ontario only. Please play responsibly.
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Starting point is 01:29:34 Don't be a deadbeat necessarily. Other exceptions, I guess. But when you consider more like, no, like you don't need to fucking climb over the wall of the palace and go out into the jungle to start the great journey towards enlightenment. You don't need to fucking take your poor kid up to the mountain and like tie him up and put him on an altar until God says, you're all right, you can use a goat. Psychos do that shit. But it's really exciting to imagine that mythical sort of ultimate sacrifice is available,
Starting point is 01:30:13 minus the blood. But you would really have to do it. You would really have to sever the fucking throat of whatever that ignorant, selfish child inside of you. Which seems to fly in the face of this idea of like pure self-love. But you know, that's the reason Jesus means something. If the story of Jesus was, God gave his only begotten and obnoxious son, who he really didn't like, he kept wrecking his fucking car, didn't listen to anything he said to the world
Starting point is 01:30:56 because he was sick of him. Basically, he sent Jesus here as punishment. The story has resonance because it's like, this is my only begotten son who I love. Meaning this thing in us, it's not done out of self-hate, it's done out of love, but for the world. Fatherly love, which is different than motherly love,
Starting point is 01:31:23 because fatherly love is harder. You want that person, child to learn so you're it seems mean but it's toughen you up I guess you know well yeah love that there's all kinds of love and Jesus I just saw this very disturbing YouTube video so good place to wrap it up it's some video like free-range parenting. These parents let their kids do whatever they want. The dad was like, yeah my kid stayed up till 3am and I went to him and said, Sunflower are you ready for bed? And he said, yeah I'm tired and he went to bed. He's five.
Starting point is 01:32:06 His other kid, the older kid, never been to school. He's a blacksmith, I guess. He thinks he's back there in the fucking yard banging out a fucking... Forging some shitty metal pole. And he's like, I can learn anything I want because I learned how to make these metal poles.
Starting point is 01:32:26 I'm a blacksmith. If I want to stop making my poles, I go and play video games. Have you ever thought about going to school? Yeah, for like two seconds. Why would I give this up? That is, I would not, I would, though I have no doubt any parent loves their kids, I think that's a misunderstanding of love. It's like, how is that love?
Starting point is 01:32:51 It's laziness. Yeah, it's really easy to fucking give your kid the Oreos. It's real easy to do that. It's very easy to like let your kid watch seven hours of Blippi. You could just sit and fucking do whatever you want. to like let your kid watch seven hours of Blippi. You could just sit and fucking do whatever you want. Yeah, they don't bother you. They don't bother you.
Starting point is 01:33:11 It's very easy. But as they say, my brothers and sisters, the road to hell is paved with Blippi DVDs. So there's my rant. is paved with blippy DVDs. So there's my rant, child sacrifice, global child sacrifice. We're all participating and maybe the way to counterbalance that global child sacrifice ritual is not to become a sovereign citizen and go off the grid,
Starting point is 01:33:44 but maybe the way to do it is to counterbalance it with a kind of internal sacrifice of the ignorant part of oneself in the name of the greater good. Don't fucking hurt anybody and don't hurt any fucking kids. Jesus Christ, anyone out there is fucking a little weird right now and think that that's what I'm, in any way, shape, or form insinuating. Hell no, you monstrous fuck. No way. But thinking in terms of sacrifice,
Starting point is 01:34:13 personal sacrifice, I think it's worth contemplating, worth thinking about. Well, I got to get out of here. I'm going to Indianapolis. May God be with you. Hare Krishna. Goodbye.

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