Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 665: Solooooooooo
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my family, and my secret God. Hello to you! I mean you! I can see you right there through your screen.
You're beautiful. My God, look at you. I wanna kiss you.
I wanna hold you at night.
I wanna suck on that thumb. How come that never became a fetish?
Sucking on other people's thumbs.
I've seen it in movies.
I think it just goes for a man's thumb in a woman's mouth.
Man does not suck a lady's thumb, let me tell you.
A man will never suck a lady's thumb
and gain that lady's respect.
Now there was a time when,
if you wanted to be viewed as a gentleman,
that was how you would meet a lady,
is you would place, gently place your thumb
in your mouth and nip the tip,
which is where the term nip the tip comes from.
But now, we don't do that, it turned into the handshake.
And right away, this is what's really fascinating about that, and I love stuff like this, as soon as it shifted from the It turned into the handshake and right away This is what's really fascinating about that
And I love stuff like this as soon as it shifted from the suckled of the handshake because for a man you would suck his finger
Not his thumb. It was actually an insult stuck a man's thumb and it caused many a duel
You know also the saying just the tip that comes from this tradition which happened in
saying just the tip. That comes from this tradition, which happened
all over the world, which is a fascinating thing about it.
Even in petroglyphs throughout the world,
you could see these incredible formations showing either a thumb
or a finger being gently sucked on.
It wasn't a kiss.
So it did turn to the cheek kiss.
People didn't like that. It felt empty and weird. And then to adjust, we did a handshake, which is really, if
you think about the handshake itself, the hand is like a mouth encapsulating the
other person's hand. And so that's the story of the handshake. But when they
stopped doing the just the tip suckling, many of the plagues of those days
went away.
Because what was really happening is people were getting sick because they didn't really
use toilet paper back then.
It was too expensive to make toilet paper.
So people view it anthropologically.
You can read Frasier's Golden Bow or or bow as some people say, he talks a little bit about this and
he looked at it as a kind of post-proto-hominated cleansing of another person's hand by sucking
some of the shit off their fingers.
Are there some like primitive cultures that are still doing that?
No and we don't use the term culture anymore. We just say primitives.
Cool.
But the...
Um... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And I want to talk about something that's going to disturb you a little bit. So if you are of the sensitive type, once you head on out of here, don't take offense
to it.
Now it's okay for you to be sensitive.
We all are sometimes.
Every one of us, I hate that term snowflake, is a derogatory insult.
What's more beautiful?
What's more beautiful than a precious little snowflake
falling through the air, soon to hit the ground, melt, turn into water? That water will be
absorbed into the earth, suckled up by the tree, suckled up by the flower, transformed
into the rose, or even better evaporate
It will completely transform its form. It will go up into the air become a cloud
And then maybe it turned into snowflake again
So if you're a snowflake, you're not gonna like this you bitch
Because we're gonna talk about something real fucked up
Real fucked up.
Real fucked up.
And you know what triggered it?
I've discovered a new podcast that is fucking incredible.
Incredible.
So, have you listened to the Martyr Made podcast?
No.
Oh God!
It is, you know, it's like, it's ear glue.
You can't stop listening.
It's ear glue. You can't stop listening. It's incredible.
Like the stories, the historical stories in this, you know, I don't usually get into this shit.
You know, I have a lot of friends who are into this. I did read or listen to an incredible audible on Genghis Khan, which I really enjoyed.
Every once in a while I do get into history and stuff, but usually somewhere along the
way, I don't know, I get a little bored or you get a sense when you're reading the history
book that it's not like some intentional conspiratorial concealing of certain aspects of history,
but you do get the feeling that you're kind of getting
a one-sided perspective.
Like you're just getting one view
and you're also getting the feeling
that this is sort of an academic view.
Not that that's bad necessarily,
but it's not juicy is what I mean.
This guy, go to about and I'm mortified because I DMed him and fanboyed out. I don't not remember his name
That's how fucking powerful the man is. You don't even have his name on there. You don't even know my fucking name
Will you google who is the murder me podcast I'm not gonna look at my DMs where I DMed him
Darrell that's his name. Daryl. This guy Daryl. Like number one his voice
is just perfect for talking about dark history. Daryl Cooper.
It's just fucking great. Like so I don't I I thought my brother-in-law recommended it to me,
but he didn't.
So now I have no idea where I found it,
which is very strange.
I guess that the algorithm served it up to me.
It recommended an episode about Jim Jones,
Jonestown.
And, you know, I love cults. I love cult documentaries. And I've seen
pretty much every cult documentary there is that I'm aware of. I'm sure there's some out there
I haven't seen yet. Most recently, the one I enjoyed the most was the Mother God documentary,
which is incredible. Mother God was, this is a crazy story, she was the manager of I think a McDonald's,
you know, and that says a lot about a person in a good way.
Like it says, hey, yeah, I'm going to fucking try to like make it, you know, there's a weirdly entrepreneurial spirit to someone who's going to like try to rise up the ranks of fucking McDonald's.
And that's a a shitty brutal fucking job
You know and I mean this like to rise to the position of manager to fucking McDonald's have to deal with that shit
I have to deal with being the fucking middleman between the
Underpaid employees and McDonald's because they get minimum wage pretty sure
Yeah, and I'm not positive about that you get minimum fucking wage
And I when I haven't eaten at McDonald's in a long time,
not to brag, I go to In-N-Out.
But when I go to In-N-Out or McDonald's,
and in my fantasy, the In-N-Out employees
are getting like $50 an hour,
because the burgers are so good,
I'm pretty sure that's not the case.
But I like to imagine that,
so I can fully enjoy the fast food. But the, you
know, you go to a McDonald's. My friend, my God, one of my best friends in high school,
and I really respect this dude. I always will. I'm not going to say his name. He got a girl pregnant. He had a kid. And dude, this guy, every morning, man,
he would wake up at like three
to go work at a fast food place
to pay for his fucking kid.
I mean, this guy was like, probably at that time,
he was like less than 20.
And he was like working fucking hard for his family.
Really hardcore, really cool.
But so you go in there and like, number one it's dangerous.
Because like a lot of the Instagram videos I see,
and I think it has to do with the diet,
people come in there and they lose their minds.
They lose their fucking minds.
You give them the wrong milkshake or whatever,
the fries aren't out when they want it, or the fries aren't the right way or whatever. They'll their minds. They lose their fucking minds. You give them the wrong milkshake or whatever The fries aren't out when they want it or the fries aren't the right way or whatever. They'll attack you
They'll attack you like wild fucking animals. They'll like try to throw shit at you. They'll throw the cash register
They have these full zombie meltdowns because they're not getting the drug and these employees are getting minimum fucking wage
And they're acting like these employees are personally trying to ruin their fucking lives by not getting them some
greasy slop.
Well anyway,
Mother God, as she
was to be called, is
a manager at a fast food place and
takes MDMA.
Has a revelatory breakthrough experience. Whatever that former entrepreneurial identity was gets melted down by the MDMA has a revelatory breakthrough experience. Whatever that former entrepreneurial identity was gets melted down by the MDMA.
I do think that psychedelics will give you a kind of temporary enlightenment.
I think that a lot of people who take psychedelics don't want to believe that happened to them
or they want to think like it was just the drug.
But I don't think that at all.
I think it actually gives you a glimpse of what would happen if you had more control
over the operating system that you call your identity or something else took control of
it, reconfigured a few things, and boom, you get this enlightenment.
Did she work at McDonald's?
Yeah.
Okay, Carlson worked at McDonald's before she became a religious leader.
Okay, so Carlson, that was her name.
So she gets some glimpse of the true nature of the soul.
And I love thinking about that night. You know, you're taking ecstasy, you're managing a McDonald's.
That's wild.
That's a wild night. You're tired.
It's a hard job.
You're thinking about, like, some shitty employee.
You've probably been indoctrinated into the corporate system enough
where you actually are mad at them.
You're not thinking, like, why would I expect anyone to work hard for minimum wage, for
not a living wage?
You're not thinking that.
You're just like, this fucking...
I can't believe Zeke is calling out sick.
That motherfucker, does he not understand that we are our work?
Does he not understand that we are our work? Does he not understand that?
Doesn't he know like he could rise up and like one day like become an assistant manager?
You know like she's thinking that and then boom she gets some really good ecstasy
and I like to think about
the manufacturer of the ecstasy I like to think about like somebody some
of the ecstasy. I like to think about like somebody, some lunatic chemist, the modern mad scientist, these people right now in secret underground laboratories
all around the world. No one gives any credit to these people. These are
lunatics. They are in weird-ass fucking home labs. they are like figuring out ways to assemble the ingredients for
some of these psychedelics which are very difficult to get because of the
prohibition and so sometimes you actually have to synthesize the ingredients
themselves. It's crazy. Some of them, maybe some are listening right now as
their beakers are bubbling and they're just brewing up these consciousness shifting potions,
these strange chemicals that will flow into the bloodstream of humanity and actually have and will continue to warp and change the zeitgeist for better or for worse.
You don't know.
I like to think for better, but then
there's Amy Carlson. Pull up Amy Carlson's Corpo pick. The one in the pink right there.
No, in the pink. No, go back. It was the one right before that. That one. I'm pretty sure that's a Corpo pick. Yeah. There she is.
That could be the day she took that ecstasy.
She, so she,
some chemist didn't know what they were doing. They were just making a batch of
Molly.
And then that batch of Molly flows flows out through whatever illicit bizarre trafficking
conduits drugs or traffic through throughout the world this
invisible capillary system of psychedelics and blow and cocaine and
it lands in Amy fucking Carlson's purse and
Amy Carlson
Slurps this shit back, merges with the divine, and begins to think
that she is God. Which, arguably, if we're going to create a unified, holistic kind of
God, it's—I think you have to kind of say, well we are all God.
We don't have the potency or power of God, assuming God is omnipotent and all that.
But because, you know, God is a totality, then we must be part of God, which is the
classic schizophrenic enlightenment problem. As you get the sort of manic
enlightenment and you glimpse that reality,
but in the glimpsing of the reality you adhere to your former
individualistic worldview and the next thing you know,
you're
the only God, the one true God or Messiah or the chosen one.
So that's the problem and a lot of people would say that's because you didn't take enough of the drug, that now you still think you're a you. You
haven't merged into the full totality yet. And when you merge into the full
totality, many people report this experience on 5-MeO-DMT. You are gifted this remission of individualistic subjective consciousness.
It's like when you're in the middle of a weird fucking dream.
And you wake up for a second. And the dream kind of sucked.
Oh, that was a dream.
Oh my god, thank fucking god I didn't set my neighbor's house on fire.
That's great.
And then you fall back asleep and you're like,
ah, fuck you, burning down your house.
So this is the sort of waveform of pre-enlightenment,
I guess you could say.
You sort of get these little miniature glimpses of it
and then you sink back into the dream state of your life
and you get these miniature glimpses of it and sink back into the dream state of your life.
But the problem is, which is why
in spiritual circles and in the psychedelic community, you get these examples of these messianic,
egomaniacal
cult figures who emerge because they haven't gotten the full dip. They've come back dripping God juice,
but they still got their ego, their identity,
and they become absolutely convinced that they are God, they know the way, or that they
are in direct contact with God, whereas other people are not, and boom, that's Amy Carlson.
That's the gift that this chemist gave to the world, is Amy Carlson, a kind of, I guess you could say, demi goddess who
had some charisma, had some entrepreneurial spirit, and what's really
fascinating about this cult as opposed to other cults is that whereas like you
get Jim Jones, you get Manson, they weren't marketers. No one's gonna say Jim
Jones was like what you would call a classical marketing person. He didn't know about Etsy. There was no Etsy.
There's no branding there. Jim Jones was charismatic. I think you could argue he's
like the Elvis of cult leaders. But Carlson is a modern-day cult leader and
so Carlson utilizing, utilized the internet in the same way that,
God, what's his fucking name?
Oh God, what's the name of the cult?
Sounds like a shampoo.
Oh God, oh God, I can't believe I can't remember
the name of it.
NXIVM, NXIVM was another example of this,
which is Keith Renier, Reniery,
who was an entrepreneurial cult leader.
Who, both of them, what they both have in common
is a wild confidence based on nothing other than confidence. So they like, and that is a really
specific kind of dumb or ignorance, I guess you could say, which is you manage to,
without having any real skillset other than charisma
to just think that you are the best at everything.
You don't really, you don't have the neurotic thing
or you don't have, as far as I'm aware,
you're not getting a lot of imposter syndrome,
you're not getting a lot of imposter syndrome, you're not getting a lot of like, this might not be like ethical what I'm doing, because like
underneath this exterior messianic persona, it's just a kind of old can of Vienna sausages, just
slimy sausages down there, confused muddled sausages.
But you've recognized that all you have to do is act
like an expert and people will think you're an expert.
That's what they both had in common.
And so using her charisma and drugs,
this cult forms around Amy Carlson.
And to me, that's really remarkable. and I think the HBO documentary Love is One,
The Cult of Mother God, did such a fantastic job of illustrating the nature of a cult,
which is where it's like most people view a cult as a top-down situation. The leader
controls the members with an iron fist, they don't catch a more
subtle angle, which is that the members trap the leader in the role.
So once you're in the role of the messianic figure, once you've really put it out there
that you're communing with the divine, then the members of the cult expect that out of you.
And God help you if suddenly you're like, you guys, you know what, it was mania or I
just wanted to play around with being an all-powerful being.
As it turns out, that's not me at all.
I don't really want to do this anymore.
And so there's a one, so her followers, this group of followers form around her and it's a party like that's the other thing about them as opposed to some other cults
Like I do feel like the branch Davidians and Koresh
Partied, but I don't know that for sure. I know they're banging
Next scene was a sex cult next scene was a sex cult. They were definitely banging getting high
Jim Jones was getting high and banging,
but the cult was not allowed to bang and get high,
as far as I'm aware.
Is she the first woman cult leader?
No, not at all the first woman cult leader.
There's been others.
She's the first beautiful woman cult leader
because she is beautiful.
Look at that symmetry.
Dude, it's kind of one of the dark aspects of our culture
that unfortunately the cult leaders are inevitably dudes.
And I feel like,
I just can't imagine something more incredible
I just can't imagine something more incredible than meeting a woman who said she was God, somehow demonstrating that to me via some, like, God knows what, parlor magic, real telepathy,
I don't know, communing with my inner spirit.
And then being like, you know, Duncan, I think you're ready for me to suck your dick.
It's like, what could be better?
What could be better?
Literally, you think it's God blowing you.
Like, holy shit. That is winning the lottery a million times over. And Buddhism's ideas, you get the human life,
that's an incredible thing But if you get a human life and on top of that a goddess a literal goddess not like I think you're a goddess
But this is a goddess demonstrating psychic paranormal abilities a massive following is
sucking you off
Speaking in tongues, maybe you're speaking in tongues while she does it. God, ala singa la dee, oh, subash, ala linga,
da la loo, la lee, alai, alai, alai.
If she's sucking you off and speaking tongues,
she might be God.
Well, dude, I mean, listen, or God knows what, I mean,
there is a liminal space that exists in this world.
It's those moments of synchronicity,
those moments where something happens so
far outside of your understanding of the way things could possibly align, the things that make you
think it's a simulation, the things that make you wonder, is this a dream? These things, much like
dreams, easily forgotten. You don't really remember them. You tend to forget these things
because they're in this liminal space. They don't fit in, right?
And in that liminal space, there are whole communities that exist.
There are whole shadowy communities.
There are solitary individuals.
There are all kinds of people who explore those liminal spaces,
know how to work within them, and they don't fucking forget the shit that happens to them.
And these are the cult leaders.
These are the magicians. These are the magicians.
These are the shamans.
These are the healers.
They're out there, man, it's real.
And whether or not what's happening is just some kind of
illusion, whether it's people who have the ability to via their own confident madness
infect you with their madness to the point where you begin to see things that aren't
there, or whether they're actually somehow have tuned into a human capacity that has
yet to be quantified in any scientific literature, it's there.
This is the realm of the cult.
The cult exists in that space,
and the moment you step out of default reality,
which I might argue is its own cult,
we live in a cult too, it's just a very big fucking cult.
And because we live in a cult,
and we just accept things as they are,
this must be real, this is the way it is,
though everything that we apply to subjective phenomena
is a set of symbols that were given to us by our parents,
by schools that didn't exist thousands of years ago,
most of them.
There was no America in ancient Egypt.
No one's talking about the president.
Talking about the pharaoh.
And also we know these are transitory phenomena in the sense that the world is covered with
a scattered remnants of cities, statues, religions.
No one even knows what the religion is.
God, my brother-in-law is telling me about the Cathars or something, just this religion wiped out by the Catholics. No one even knows
if they're real anymore. You know, there's so many religions that just disappear, blip
off the map. So, as America will eventually, as all empires will. But the moment you step out of default reality into a cult, into or even a religion,
you enter a new cosmology and there's something refreshing and exciting about that.
Like your suspicion that maybe the secularist world wasn't completely an accurate depiction
of what's going on here is confirmed via some mystical system. And that for a lot of people is the greatest thing
that ever happened to them,
because it's a very claustrophobic place, Steve,
for reality, it's a very boring place.
There's a set of topics you're supposed to cover
in polite conversation, once you veer away from that,
you're looked at as a freak.
So.
But you want to believe too.
That's the, like, when you say that it's past us
and we don't really concentrate on it
and then we forget about it like a dream,
those times that we stop and we look,
it's because we are searching for something
and we're looking for something to believe in.
And it just so happens that it lines up with,
maybe for some people, a cult.
You know what I mean?
Well, we're trying to go home, baby.
There's a sense of homesickness.
This is the existential despair that I think
gets covered by a lot of philosophers.
They, like, Sartre called it nausea.
Camus called it absurdity.
There's a sense of absurdity here.
Like, you've been dropped off by your parents
at a sleepover you didn't want to go to,
but also you have amnesia.
A general feeling.
This shows up in child psychology.
The changeling.
This is the story of, in folklore, that sometimes elves, and I'm not sure why the fuck they
do this, replace your child with an elfling child, a changeling.
Saw that on Hellboy.
Yeah, it's called the changeling fantasy.
So it's very common for children to begin to fantasize
that their parents aren't really their parents.
They get a sense.
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This isn't my family.
I come from somewhere else.
This shows up in stories of the basket babies, the Moses,
I think he was sent down the river.
And you know, this, so like, this is probably pointing
to that sense in the human heart,
that this isn't quite home.
This doesn't feel quite where we belong.
Like something's off here, but we're not sure what.
And so what, which is why, what occults call themselves
inevitably, the Manson family.
Bingo, this is your real family.
You've now come home, you found home, welcome home,
this is home.
Like whenever you like get love bombed by a cult,
that's what they'll say right away,
is you're home now, welcome home.
Isn't this the family hour though?
My friend, the fact that you think that I called it the Dunkin' Trussell family hour
because of some insane cult intent is just, I'm insulted.
It's the first time you ever insulted me.
Absolutely not.
That's not, it's a family friendly show. That's the first time you ever insulted me. Absolutely not. That's not it's a family-friendly show
That's what I meant. I apologize. Thank you. I will write in the journal that you gave me to not do that again
Write it ten times. I will
on each page, um the the
so I'm getting a little
off track here, but,
Martyr Made Podcast.
You know, you see a lot of Jim Jones podcasts and shit,
and we all know this story.
But, the angle he's taking is actually an exploration
of communism during the time of Jim Jones, which is brilliant
because Jim Jones was a communist.
And the difference between that communism
and, like, what most of us see, like, you know,
Grimes with the Communist Manifesto or whatever, like,
that in those days it was actually dangerous
to say you were a communist.
You know, like you could get fucked.
And so it was more of an underground thing,
more of a hardcore thing.
And I really liked that.
I didn't know too much about the communist culture
in those days, though I think we've seen little bits
and pieces of it in like Oppenheimer and stuff like that.
So we did a great job with that one. But now I've moved little bits and pieces of it like Oppenheimer and stuff like that. So he did a great job
With that one and so but now I've moved on and this brings us to the topic of today's podcast
He has a series on
Jeffrey Epstein That's got me shook
It has got me fucking shook man. It me fucking shook, man. It really does.
Like, you know, I try to avoid allowing my mind
to get too absorbed into some of the sort of
mainstream conspiracy theories,
like specifically Pizzagate, for example,
because it's more of a kind of unconscious feeling
when I run into some of those materials,
specifically like the Podesta emails,
you know, Podesta's art, for example.
Like if you've seen John Podesta's art.
Yeah, and the...
Can you look up John Podesta's art?
I feel like we pulled this up before,
but I think it's good to show it.
Get ready, this is fucked up.
I mean, honestly, it's weird. art might get me like in trouble on YouTube and I'm gonna have to use different
Different kind of language for this but Podesta's got I don't know if this is John Podesta. I mean
Yeah, yeah, he's got a lot of art
like this and
I've had a lot of art like this.
And it's generally depicting children
in some kind of what appears to be a bathroom or a tiled environment.
That's the one I hate the most.
Pull that one up with the kids
with their hands behind their back.
Go down one more.
Right there, pull that one up.
Do I show it?
I mean, I get, that's what's so fucked up about this is I don't know if we're allowed to show this.
This is Tony Podesta, by the way, not John Podesta. Pull this up.
This one?
Yeah, fuck it.
Oof.
Right? Like, imagine if you came, if like you came to my house.
I'm like, dude, come over, let's hang out.
Play some video games.
And I had that above the TV.
How long would you stay at my house?
How good are the drinks?
I mean.
Now that says, this is from Tony Podesta's art collection
photo of the Biltmore indoor basement pool.
So now if you look at the, like, you know,
go back, go back one more.
Now if you look at the, um, the, the,
the expression on the faces of these children,
they have dirty hands and they don't,
like, the third one over from the left
looks legitimately scared.
And there's something really fucked up about this art.
Okay, you take it down, I wanna look at it.
They all got red shoes also. And they all got red shoes. You heard the red shoe theory, right? Yes. Yeah, it's horrible
so okay, so I
Don't like to get too
absorbed into this shit because
It it feels like such a negative rabbit hole that and I do understand why a lot of people become unhinged
in the sort of turning and facing this reality in the world.
Which is why this Epstein podcast, because you think it, you know, Jeffrey Epstein, of notorious child sex trafficker, mysterious fortune.
Jelaine Maxwell, his procurer, he's now in jail. He's flying around with like
Clinton, he's flying around with like, who was it, which comic was he was flying around with. I don't remember.
He's got an island.
But the part that has stuck with me
from this, from where I'm at in the podcast,
very beginning, I will continue, I will not be a coward,
is he mentions Dennis Hastert. can you pull up Dennis Hastert?
Former speaker of the United States pull up the Wikipedia
So this is like this is what Nancy Pelosi is so
Dennis Hastert 51st speaker of the United States House of Representatives,
in office January 6th to January 3rd, succeeded by Nancy Pelosi. Okay, scroll down, scroll down.
Okay, go up a little bit. In court submissions filed in April 2016, federal prosecutors alleged that Hastert had
molested at least four boys as young as 14 years of age during his time as a high school
wrestling coach.
At his sentencing hearing, Hastert admitted that he had sexually abused boys whom he had
coached.
Referring to Hastert as a serial child molester, a federal judge imposed a sentence of 15 months
in prison, two years supervised release, and a $250,000 fine. Hastert was in prison in
2016, was released 13 months later. He became the highest ranking elected official in US history
to serve a prison sentence. Okay, so here's, I'd heard of Hastert, most have, but here's the really creepy point he makes. In this age where politics is no holds barred, where you want to find anything you can to
smear the opposing party, when it comes to Hastert, The last Nancy Pelosi
Republican
Nobody's talking about it Why isn't that brought up?
This is the point he makes you would think that they would be fucking pulling Hastert out of the closet you had a fucking
like
serial child molester
in office
the Republicans
Not a single
word that I've heard yet and
So now I you know, there's a lot of things you could get he doesn't like keep going into that because he's talking about Epstein
but
Or at least maybe he does later but the the point being like, what the fuck?
Like, you know, when, when,
first of all, and I don't know what the story is with Astor,
actually pull his Wikipedia page up again,
but usually when you hear about someone
who's a child abuser, they don't stop abusing children.
Correct.
So let's scroll down.
Every one of these paragraphs should end with Andy was a serial.
There it is.
Sex abuse, keep going down, keep going down.
Sex abuse scandal of federal prosecution.
According to a 2017 interview with the two special agents leading the investigation,
one each from the FBI and the IRS Criminal Investigation Division, Hastert had been on
the FBI's radar as early as November 2012,
even before the FBI and IRS began investigating the suspicious cash withdrawals that were
Hastert's downfall.
So that was hush money.
So he was like getting money, wait, taxpayer funded office of the former speaker to further
his private business ventures, something that Astor was never charged with.
So this motherfucker, you know, when you're writing that check to the IRS back in 2011,
some fraction of that fucking money got suctioned out by this vampire and sent to a kid he had abused.
Think about that, man.
Now on May 28, 2015, blah, blah, blah, unlawfully structuring the withdrawal of $952,000 in cash
in order to evade the requirement that bank reports cash transactions over $10,000 in cash in order to evade the requirement that bank reports cash transactions
Over $10,000 wait, that's gotta be wrong. Wouldn't it be a hundred thousand dollars? This is 952,000. Oh
I see he did it like he was withdrawing like nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine dollars
Yeah in late 2014 after being questioned about withdrawals Haster said that he did not trust Panks
shortly afterward Haster changed his story saying did not trust Panks. Shortly afterward, Hastert changed his story,
saying he was the victim of extortion by,
victim of extortion?
That's a good way to spin it.
Wow, a victim, of course!
Oh my God, are you okay?
I'm sorry.
That's like you bite somebody and they're like,
they hurt my teeth.
Yeah, yeah, what the fuck?
So, now, yeah, what the fuck? So, now, this,
this shit is real creepy, man.
And you have to,
you know, there's things I don't know about Hastert,
but if we just look at sort of like what we know about abusers
of children, the behavior, it's not like they sober up.
It's possible.
They can get therapy.
It is possible.
But generally, it seems to be a lifelong affliction.
They always have those thoughts.
This is why we have a registry of sex abuse, of abusers.
Because you want to know if you live next to one because there's some probability that they're not going to stop.
So this brings into question a lot of fucking things.
Specifically, like, did he continue doing this
in that position of power?
And if he did continue doing that in that position of power,
who knew about it?
Who fucking knew about it?
And that is so spooky.
Because when you think about any like sex abuse scandals,
Catholic Church being the one most people cite.
I think there's a pretty good explanation for what's going down there,
which is it's a contagion.
You know what I mean? Like it's it lives in secrecy.
It generally involves somebody not wanting to come forward to say this has happened because
they think they will lose their job, they won't be believed, they'll ruin the church,
they'll ruin the family, they'll ruin the party in this case. I mean, the political party, not the...
Not the party party.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you're saying earlier, they don't go after him
because all their hands are dirty.
Yeah.
All their hands are dirty.
And that's, if you notice, the Me Too movement was going strong until the kids stuff started being brought
Up then it all of a sudden went away, dude
so yes, and and so the when like
Which brings us to like, you know, one of the themes in the pictures on Tony Podesta's fucking wall dirty hands
yep, and so like the the
dirty hands. And so like the cult... It was the Tom Hanks hanging on when he's...
Yeah, the dirty hand. The mark of the dirty hand.
Yeah, on the volleyball.
Yeah.
That's what they're saying.
Right. So now because this is a... this sort of bullshit thrives in shadows, it's fungus.
It depends on darkness. It depends on darkness.
It depends on secrecy.
It is, you know,
getting implicated into it,
it's not like you're necessarily gonna do like
eyes wide shut.
It's, I think it's a lot more subtle than that.
There's little like glimpses of something that's off.
A feeling, generally.
You gotta trust your instincts, but there's a sense like
I'm not sure that this is right.
If you, this is the beginning of this vampiric game
of footsie with a demon, which is like, so okay great,
they're not gonna fucking say anything
about that thing I just did,
which means I can push forward a little bit more,
and push forward a little bit more,
and push forward a little bit more,
and then before you know it,
you've become actually implicated
versus just being on the outskirts.
And the moment you get implicated, you become an insider.
There's horrible things about being implicated.
You can now be extorted.
You can now be controlled.
But there's some advantage to being implicated, right?
Because in the implication, you gain going to send you to jail.
It's going to send you to jail and you don't want to go to fucking jail if you've been
hurting kids.
You don't want to go to jail.
But God help you if you go to jail as a child abuser.
I saw this documentary, man, you know, one of these like hardcore prison documentaries. We marked that down. I don't think we could say that. But in the cell across from him,
I believe he rips his sink out of the wall, somehow uses it to bash his own door open,
and then to gain access to the person's cell where he kills them.
So man, that's a good way to keep secrets going, right?
That's a great, if you really want the skiff,
which is like, you know what I mean,
the hermetically sealed area
where you can talk about government secrets.
If you want some kind of sociological cultural skiff,
there's the fucking skiff right there, man.
Once you get into that fucking thing,
you're not getting out.
You're not getting out.
And so this is the honey trap, right?
And this is what, like, you know,
this is where I think where I ended
in the Martyr Made Epstein episodes.
This is the, this is the,
you're at the party. You're looking around.
These girls...
They're nice!
They seem kinda young!
Right? And so...
You're drinking.
You know what I mean?
You didn't ask...
how old they were.
Because you know, you're like, yeah I'm sure they're not gonna gonna have young flirty girls at this party. I'd be fucked up. Take some of that
ecstasy, take some molly, same shit she took. Next thing you know you're locking
lips with an underage kid. You don't see the cameras.
And you're owned. At that point, you're fucking owned.
They got your ass.
You should be asking for ID, man.
And so,
this brings us to the deeper level
of what I wanna talk about.
And I'm gonna start off with something I've read before. I always thought maybe they do it on islands or because the laws are different.
So even if they do end up getting, you know, oh, this all comes out, they don't get arrested
because it's like, well, that was from a different country.
Rules are different over there.
Also, it's not easy to escape an island. Chapter 12 of The Bloody Sacrifice and Matters Cognate by Alastair Crowley.
I've read this before but it's good to revisit it from time to time.
Of course, maybe pull up a picture of dear Crowley. Alastair Crowley, born Edward Alexander Crowley,
was a British occultist and writer, and was
greatly influential in the popularization of occult groups in the groups the Hermetic
Order of the Golden Dawn and Ordo Templi Orientis.
To really understand Crowley, you have to be much more well-read than I am, but he's a very controversial figure and actually a very brilliant
person, really good writer, and very prolific. So this is from his book,
Lieber IV, Magic and Theory and Practice. I do recommend it if you're interested in magic
Of the bloody sacrifice and matters cognate
Magic and theory and practice it is necessary It is necessary for us to consider carefully the problems connected with the bloody sacrifice
For this question is indeed traditionally important in magic. Nah, all ancient magic revolves around this matter,
in particular, all the Assyrian religions, Osirian.
The rites of the dying god refer to this.
The slaying of Osiris and Adonis, the mutilation of Addis,
the cults of Mexico and Peru, the story of Hercules
or Melcharth, the legends of Dionysus and Amithra
are all connected with this one idea.
In the Hebrew religion, we find the same thing inculcated.
The first ethical lesson in the Bible is that the only sacrifice pleasing to the Lord is
the sacrifice of blood.
Abel, who made this, finding favor with the Lord, while Cain, who offered cabbages, was
rather naturally considered a cheap sport
The idea occurs again and again
We have the sacrifice of the Passover following on the story of abraham's being commanded to sacrifice his firstborn son
With the idea of the substitution of animal for human life the annual ceremony of the two goats carries out this in perpetuity
perpetuity and we see again the domination of this idea in the romance
of Esther where Haman and Mordecai are the two goats or gods and ultimately the presentation of
the rite of Purim in Palestine where Jesus and Barabbas happen to be the goats in that particular
year of which we hear so much without agreement on the date. The subject must be stuck, blah blah blah.
hear so much without agreement on the date. The subject must be stuck. As St. Paul says, without shedding of blood there is no remission.
And who are we to argue with St. Paul? But after all, that is open to anyone to have
any opinion that he likes upon the subject or any other subject, thank God.
At the same time, it is most necessary to study the business, whatever we may be going to do about it, for our ethics themselves will naturally
depend upon our theory of the universe. If we were quite certain, for example, that everybody
went to heaven when he died, there could be no serious objection to murder or suicide, as it is
generally conceded by those who know neither that earth is not such a pleasant place as heaven.
However, there's a mystery concealed in the theory of the bloody sacrifice, which is of
great importance to the student.
We therefore make no further apology.
We should not have made even this apology for an apology had it not been for the solicitude
of a pious young friend of great estor—blah blah blah blah blah blah.
He's a little wordy.
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But he's going right to the heart of something nobody wants to go to the heart of, which
is that in our world, children are sacrificed for power.
Now, obviously, and I think Louis C.K. has
a terribly dark joke, and I'm sorry if he doesn't,
and it's some other comic and he doesn't wanna
be associated with the joke, but I think the joke
is something along the lines of,
wouldn't you rather your kid be abused and murdered?
Right, like obviously there's a hierarchy here.
If you had to pick, you know which one you're gonna pick.
But, and I don't think I made that joke as funny as he.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you gotta hear him do it,
he's one of the greats.
But the point here is that they're in the same
area they exist in the same area in the sense that
You are extracting energy from an innocent being to satiate satisfy your own
hedonic
impulses
One of them the way you're extracting the energy, is the literal destruction of the being.
And it is interesting that, like, if we look at, like, Christianity,
it's literally a religion that has at its nucleus the sacrifice of a
at its nucleus the sacrifice of a son of God.
It's a child sacrifice ritual at the core of Christianity. And it's inarguable.
For God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son.
And it wasn't like I'm letting you guys raise this kid.
It's like, I'm gonna let you guys raise him
and then fucking torture him and kill him.
Now, I think that's a simplistic view of Christianity.
It's a literalist view of Christianity.
But before you like recoil, it's important to note,
and that's what the point Crowley was making,
is like child sacrifice is in so many different cultures,
so many different mythologies.
And so when you really start doing this kind of math,
I wouldn't recommend it, this shit keeps me up at night.
And you think about the profit of war, for example.
Like if you want to strip away the reasons for war, for example. Like if you want to strip away the reasons for war, the cultural reasons,
and just look at how much money gets made with war. So you can actually start quantifying
how much money you can extract from an average child.
So for example, let's look up,
let's look up, I guess just look up, I'm sure nothing will come up for this,
but look up children killed in bombing Palestine.
Oh, okay, 13,000 children. in bombing Palestine.
Oh, okay, 13,000 children.
Now look up, like what bombs are being dropped in Palestine?
What kinds of bombs are being dropped in Palestine? Do a kind of rough quantification here.
New study shows Israel dropped 2,000 pound bombs.
Okay, so now Google,
how much does it cost to make an average bomb?
On your computer.
A military bomb.
Okay, how much does it cost
to make an average military bomb?
How much does the military spend?
How much does,
no, look up bombs sent to Israel
one billion in bombs
Okay, and then how much profit per bomb does weapons manufacturer make
so it's a
20% markup on the bombs, right? So how much does like you know?
How much does a does the average military bomb cost? There's got to be something out there.
I'm just saying you could literally come up with a formula for how much money
these companies are making per blown-up child.
And that's because they probably sell like the way hospitals do like $3 Tylenol or $7. There you go
No, okay joint direct attack me a JDAM cost between 21,000 and 36,000. So what's what's that?
That's uh, that's about if we're gonna do a 36,000 JDAM
That means we're gonna make we start selling JDAMs at 36 K
That means that and we're making a 20% markup, that means that
we're making around $7,000 per JDAM. $7,000. That's the profit. Now, from that, you know,
you can just sort of quantify how much money you're making per child blown up. It turns
into a literal quantification of the energy Crowley is talking about.
And though I know this is an indirect kind
of child sacrifice, I wonder what's worse.
You know what I mean?
Like in this case, it's like, oh my God, whoops,
we accidentally blew up a bunch of kids.
So there's a kind of meaninglessness there, isn't there,
to this situation. It's kind of like, whoa, fuck, why were there kids there?
You should have gotten your kids out.
What the fuck?
That was a mistake that keeps happening
over and over and over again.
But no matter what, as long as these people
are making profit off of it,
they're extracting a metaphysical energy,
which we call profit, and where it's
even darker, and this is the point I was trying to get to here, because we all pay taxes.
We're paying for that. That means if you live in a country where weapons are manufactured, where bombs are
manufactured that land on children, whether you like it or not, you are participating in
a child sacrifice ritual. A little bit of money is extracted from your pocket to go to the implement the dagger, which will be used to stab, in this case
shrapnelize a kid. You know for sure.
Of all the bombs sitting in warehouses right now, who knows where they're gonna
get shipped to, the other side of that bomb is a dead kid without question
Which brings me back my friend to complicity
We are all complicit it doesn't matter if you are the most
Anti war Activist out there if you are the most anti-war activist out there,
if you are buying Starbucks,
well I guess sales tax doesn't go
to the federal government, does it?
We could still drink Starbucks
without killing a child, can't we?
No, somehow Starbucks is still probably helping that,
with their donations and their, you know.
Yeah. So that to me, I think, is maybe why the Epstein-Pizzagate stuff really hits hard for a
lot of people. And they think it's hitting hard for like a fairly obvious reason, which is,
my God, I don't want to imagine we live in a world where you're driving down the interstate and you see a,
you all, and there's fucking people in the back of it. Oh, I saw that story.
It must be a problem because I go to the airport
and take a shit and on the fucking wall,
they hang out, are you being trafficked?
There's signals and hand signals
and shit you're supposed to do.
So you don't wanna imagine, like I don't mind thinking about the invisible mycelial
capillary network that transports psychedelics from clandestine laboratories into my brain.
That's fun to think about.
But what I don't want to think about is there's a whole other capillary system that's got
fucking people and kids in it that are being sold into slavery.
And that's real fucking creepy.
That's real fucking creepy.
It must be a problem if they're putting that shit up at the airport.
It's clearly a problem.
And so then when you get it to the next level, which is I don't want to fucking think about
some collective of very rich, powerful people who are hurting children. I don't want to fucking think about that either.
And yet, every single one of us, whether you want to think about it or not, as long as you live,
and I'm not saying just you know, I say something, where the fuck you live, if those bombs are going to a place,
and there's, and one of those bombs accidentally blows up a kid.
You have participated in a global child sacrifice ritual, and that's not like Alex Jones shit, that's real.
If you live in a country where weapons are manufactured and shipped overseas and dropped out of planes and they kill a fucking kid.
All of us share a participation in that child sacrifice ritual.
And I don't know that there's any way to push back or argue with that.
I don't think anybody wants to think about it necessarily,
but I started off with a Crowley essay because he's saying
this is a fundamental quality, a fundamental aspect
that's been around forever
in the way that humans interact with reality.
It's horrible.
But doesn't it cancel out when you,
like whenever something bad happens,
you put the Instagram thing, you know,
whatever you're supposed to put around your photo
to show that you're one of the good people.
Wouldn't that cancel out what you did?
Dude, you're ruining what I was trying to get to.
Not enough people are doing that.
That's all I was trying to get to that. You fucked me up That's all I tried to I was trying to get to that okay. Fuck me up my bad
Yeah, you got to put that thing around your thing. Yep. It's like a condom. It's a metaphysical condom
the you know and again like when you know people
You get like, you know remember that trend trend where people would say, I am,
and I want to acknowledge this is on stolen land.
No, I don't remember that one.
Shut the fuck up, you don't remember that?
I remember when everybody turned their screen black.
No, there was a trend, pull up Microsoft,
this is like a weird thing that people tried for a second
and it was so sorely rejected they stopped it.
Pull up Microsoft meeting where they describe themselves.
It's the weirdest, most surreal shit you've ever seen.
Microsoft meeting where they describe themselves
and say I'm on stolen land.
I think it was Microsoft.
Microsoft, like they were doing some kind of presentation.
Maybe say presentation.
Yeah, okay, play that, play that.
This is the craziest shit I've ever seen.
And welcome to Microsoft Ignite.
We've got a big day ahead and lots in store for you.
First, we want to acknowledge that the land
where the Microsoft campus is situated
was traditionally occupied by the Sammamish
The do Amish the snow qualmy the su qualm ish the muckleshoot the snow
Homish the tulalip and other coast Salish peoples
Can you pause it there for a second she may sum those up when they say that shit?
You know what they never say at the end of it? And we're giving it back.
No.
They, and what they should say at the end of that is we're not giving it back.
Like to be fully honest, you have to be like, this was occupied by all these people
and Microsoft will not be giving it back to them.
They never say that. They just say that's where it is, which almost makes it worse.
Like if I was streaming a fucking video and I'm like, first I just wanna start off by saying,
I am in a house that I broke into
and I just took a shit all over their bed
and jerked off into their refrigerator.
That's similar, right?
No, it's not at all.
That's actually nothing to do with it.
But I did, that is where I am.
Okay, play it again.
Memorial, a people that are still here,
continuing to honor and bring to light
their ancient heritage.
Well, not there, they're not there literally.
I mean, but they are honoring, so that feels good, right?
But you can't say they're there,
you can't really say they're still here.
There's no like-
Not in a physical way.
No, you can't say they're on the Microsoft campus.
Like someone didn't just ride by on a fucking horse
and like wave like, thanks for letting us move back in.
You can't say that.
They're not still there actually.
They're not there at all.
I'm guessing they're not on the Microsoft campus.
If there are, I apologize if there's villages
on the Microsoft fucking campus of are I apologize if there's villages on the Microsoft fucking campus
The squamish tribe is there a plaque perhaps and there's probably a memorial. Yeah
All right, keep playing wines. I'm a senior program manager in our developer tools division
I'm an Asian and white female with dark brown hair wearing a red sleeveless top
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And I'm Seth Juarez, program manager
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I'm a tall Hispanic male wearing a blue shirt, khaki pants.
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kind of baseless things work.
I'm confused with that, why do they have to say
what they wear?
Well, so the idea there is, so they were trying to create,
The idea there is like, so they were trying to create,
this is like when this shit was in full blast.
And so what they were trying to do there, and this is when everybody was hiring these ethics people
who were saying, okay, I love the meeting idea,
but first let's admit you're on stolen land,
and in case people can't see you
Describe yourself so they know what you look like. That was the idea. So inclusivity. That was the idea. So
And honestly like
the to me like
Describing yourself I get I mean, I don't know it just seems like you know
It added a lot of extra steps
to something nobody was gonna watch or not watch.
You know what I mean?
And-
Wearing a blue shirt.
Yeah, but this was where shit was getting real surreal
and you would watch that and be like,
what the fuck is happening?
And then if you would, in those days especially,
if you would articulate it kind of like,
I'm so, so not connecting with whatever the fuck this is
People be like do what the fuck is wrong with you?
Do you not fucking care about people but in context of what we were just talking about?
It seems to me if we're gonna make an order of priorities and what you want to announce before your meeting
Let's start
With what's happening now.
So you might say at the beginning of your meeting, I'm on the Microsoft campus, we
make X amount of money per year, we pay this amount in taxes, and that money goes to bombs
that statistically have killed 500 children.
Right, that seems more like this is happening now.
You say that if you really wanna cut to the meat
of what's going on in the world,
or you could even say, this is the Microsoft campus.
We use lithium in our computers.
These lithium, the lithium in our computer,
some of it is not, well, it's coming from, well, mines and the mines,
there's children mining the lithium in the mines.
And so many of these children are not being paid and within our computers is the product
of their work.
And I'm wearing a green shirt.
And you're white nation, you're a woman. Yeah, exactly. our computers is the product of their work. And I'm wearing a green shirt.
And you're white nation, you're a woman.
Yeah, exactly.
Like this, so it's really interesting
and it makes me think,
brewing under the surface of every single person,
is there just a general sense of like,
I'm participating in child sacrifice rituals via
my existence in a place where I am funding the manufacture of weapons, and that's so
intolerable, because we're all complicit that we're reverting to this stuff.
You know what I mean?
It's like somebody dressing, it's like,
it's like someone, you know, this is a wonderful thing
in the 12-Step program, you make amends.
Right, so somebody, I don't know,
they like stole money from you at some point
when they were addicted to heroin,
and they come to you, and they're like,
hey, I just wanna say, I was out of control and I made a lot
of bad choices and one of them was I stole money from you and I deeply regret it and
I really value our friendship and I don't blame you for never forgiving me for this.
And they're wearing a watch they stole from me while they're doing that. You know what I mean? Yeah, like so
This um this I think it's good
To really sort of contemplate
this this
aspect of
the human psyche that wants to ignore this shit.
Because in Buddhism, this is one of the root causes of suffering in a person's life, is ignorance.
So, you know, one thing I do, and I'm becoming more and more acutely aware of it, is like, I'll leave
shit around the house.
No big deal, whatever, you're in a hurry, fucking don't put your shoes by the door,
you leave them by the refrigerator or something, you know, or whatever.
Little messy moments, right, that add up and that's what makes a messy house.
But the other day I was thinking, what if I shit like that in different parts of the house?
You know what I mean?
I'd wanna clean up the shit, right?
Obviously.
But it's still kind of the same thing.
You know what I mean?
You're ignoring when you do things like that,
that you're just basically,
you might as well just like yell to your wife,
hey, pick up my socks or whoever, right?
That's ignorance.
And living in a world like that,
where you are ignoring things that you're doing
on a day-to-day basis that are causing problems,
whether they're big problems or small problems,
causes not just the people around you to suffer
because they have to pick up your slack,
but you suffer because some part of you is aware of it.
And this is the beginning of all games.
This is the beginning of all manipulative games. This is the beginning of all fucked up relationships And this is the beginning of all games. This is the beginning
of all manipulative games. This is the beginning of all fucked up relationships. This is the
beginning of all things. Even though you know that you're doing this thing, you don't want
to admit it to yourself. And this is where you come to this type of person, which is
the mystery under themselves. And so the mystery under themselves person, they will like, you know, go and bang some girl one night
and come back to their kids.
And be like, why did I do that?
Who am I?
And then try to forget it.
They'll go suck some dude's dick somewhere
and then come back to their kids.
Geez, I don't know who I am.
What was that?
And then they forget about it.
Ignorance.
This is actively ignoring conditions as they are, right?
And so in the contemplation of the bloody sacrifice, if you look at its connection to Epstein, to P-Diddy, to P-Diddy, to all of these unsavory underground
secret groups that are hurting children, maybe none of us should feel
quite so innocent.
You know what I mean?
That's weird.
Now I don't know what the answer is.
I mean, it seems clear what the answer is.
What helps me sleep at night better is,
although if I shit around the house everywhere,
or I cheated on my wife, I'm not gonna get arrested.
Why are you admitting this on the podcast?
I'm saying if I did that.
I'm not saying I did do them. Yeah, so well
Well, I do shit all over the house, but it different bathrooms
So there's not it's in designated spots
But the point is I'm trying to say I'm not gonna get arrested for it
If I don't pay my taxes for the bombs that kill the children, I'm gonna go to jail
Okay, so and they get like so, okay, let me
Sometimes it helps to take,
especially when you have this diffusion of responsibility
at the level of diffusion that we're experiencing
in our country, it helps to sort of,
sort of like make it a little smaller, all right?
A police officer
Says to you here's a knife I
Want you to throw it at that kid
If you don't do that I'm taking your ass to jail
Do you throw the knife at the kid what color is the kid? Shut the fuck up! God damn it!
So sick of this fascism!
No, you don't throw the knife.
You don't throw the knife?
No.
No, and if you did throw the fucking knife,
no one would forgive you.
Everyone would be like, no, dude,
you don't throw the fucking knife, you go to jail.
Right? Everyone be like, no, dude, you don't throw the fucking knife, you go to jail. Right. But yeah, you know, this is sort of the reality.
And it's brilliant because to wrap the dark part of the podcast up.
If what Crowley is talking about is real,
if there is a methodology for extracting energy from children for power.
Then there over time people probably
gotten a lot of trouble for doing that. Houses burnt down, dragged into the street, drawn and quartered, burnt at the stake.
So if you find a way to do that, but diffuse the responsibility to make everyone
complicit, to create a system within which that energy could still be transferred in a much more
subtle, in a much more deep, hidden, invisible way,
you still achieve your goal,
but no one knows who's at the wheel, you know?
It's not some dark warlock living in a fucking castle,
and people are like, do you smell burning?
Is he fucking burning kids again?
Motherfucker.
It's diffused at a global level all around the planet.
So...
The...
The...
Evil is decentralized?
It's decentralized. Well, I think absolutely.
If we're going to look at good and evil, both are decentralized situations that tend to...
I think evil and good can centralize, and when they do, it produces fantastic results
for better or for worse.
But whenever I let my brain wander through these dark landscapes, I try to bring it to
a less literalistic place. And I think, okay, let's imagine this, because we know child sacrifice is a thing,
mythologically, literally, but then also in a lot of these religions it's a good thing.
Jesus, for example, an example of good sacrifice, though Jesus was 33 or 31 or something like that.
So from that perspective, you have to ask yourself, what would good child sacrifice be?
Well, clearly not killing a kid. That's never going to be good. But what about the inner child?
Right?
Like that's what you start thinking about is like,
you know, and this is also,
I should have read this at the very end
and Crowley did write in code
and a lot of things like Crowley,
I think he has a famous quote where he said something like,
I kill thousands of children every day
and what he meant is he jerks off.
But if you look at the very last sentence of this,
of the first part of this essay.
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And so I think that's a fun thing to think about,
is like, when we think about Isaac, when we think about Jesus, when we think about any of the
mythological versions of sacrifice, what are they actually pointing towards? What are they really
talking about? You know, they actually talk—when you hear the story of Buddha leaving his family
to go get enlightened, when you hear any of these stories where there is the Bhagavad Gita, Arjuna is on the
battlefield of Kuruksetra in between these great armies talking to Krishna, the manifestation of
God and his friend, who's basically telling him, no, you fucking fight. Don't be a coward, fight.
But these are, I'm looking out at my, it's a family feud. He's looking out at his people he like,
I mean this is India,
but I'm just gonna sit, barbecued with as a kid.
People he like, that's Uncle William.
I don't wanna fucking kill him.
What kind of person will I be if I do that?
And Krishna is saying, no, no, no, no.
You have to.
It's your duty. It's what you are. It's who you are. And so from that perspective,
especially if you're looking at it not literally, I think there just is a point
in every person's life where they have to take that part of themselves that's a child, that's ignorant,
that's...
I'm not talking about like the beautiful, innocent glory of a child that reminds us
of the beauty of humanity itself.
I'm talking about spraying the yogurt pouch on the couch.
You know what I mean?
I'm talking about watching a geyser of yogurt,
like a volcano, arc through the air
and splatter all over a white couch, followed by laughter.
Which is funny.
But at some point, you can't be that anymore.
That's the sacrifice I think that they're talking about.
I think that if you were to look deeper into this shit,
and I only illustrated the dark stuff to create balance,
if you look deeper into this stuff,
the methodology illustrated by Crowley here
is not about killing actual babies.
It's about finding that part of yourself
that you can't let go of.
It's an ignorant, willful child, not willful in a cool way, wants to get its way
all the time, wants to eat cookies all the time. It's weak, whiny, victim-y, blaming.
You take that thing and you kill it. And you don't kill it because you're mad at it. You kill it
because you want the world to be a better place. And that's where you get to
the part of this essay where he talks about incredible energy is released.
Nothing can happen without sacrifice. What makes it good or evil is good as
self-sacrifice and evil is sacrificing of others.
Bingo! Perfect summation, that's it.
And also self-sacrifice,
like in a way that is actually like effective.
That, you know, if you sort of,
there's a real sentimental idea
when it comes to the inner child.
People talk about you have an inner child, you have an inner child that needs love, affection,
adoration, that needs to feel all the things that weren't given to that inner child by
its parent.
Your inner child is still there, it's covered up by an obscuration of dark toxic masculinity.
You have to love that child with his self-care
and use skin creams and lotions.
That shit.
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I think, you know, anyone who gets older,
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That's what you see in your baby. That's what you see in kids. That never goes anywhere. It
just gets covered up by wrinkles and stink. But this, when you contemplate
the idea that stories of like leaving the family don't mean to leave the family necessarily.
Don't abandon the family unit.
It's the core of all human civilization.
Don't be a deadbeat necessarily.
Other exceptions, I guess.
But when you consider more like, no, like you don't need to fucking climb over the wall
of the palace and go out into the jungle to start the great journey towards enlightenment.
You don't need to fucking take your poor kid up to the mountain and like tie him up and
put him on an altar until God says, you're all right, you can use a goat. Psychos do that shit.
But it's really exciting to imagine
that mythical sort of ultimate sacrifice is available,
minus the blood.
But you would really have to do it.
You would really have to sever the fucking
throat of whatever that ignorant, selfish child inside of you. Which seems to fly in the face of this idea of like pure self-love.
But you know, that's the reason Jesus means something.
If the story of Jesus was,
God gave his only begotten and obnoxious son, who he really didn't like,
he kept wrecking his fucking car, didn't listen to anything he said to the world
because he was sick of him.
Basically, he sent Jesus here as punishment.
The story has resonance because it's like,
this is my only begotten son who I love.
Meaning this thing in us,
it's not done out of self-hate,
it's done out of love, but for the world.
Fatherly love, which is different than motherly love,
because fatherly love is harder.
You want that person, child to learn so you're it seems mean but
it's toughen you up I guess you know well yeah love that there's all kinds of
love and Jesus I just saw this very disturbing YouTube video so good place
to wrap it up it's some video like free-range parenting. These parents let
their kids do whatever they want. The dad was like, yeah my kid stayed up till 3am
and I went to him and said, Sunflower are you ready for bed? And he said, yeah I'm
tired and he went to bed. He's five.
His other kid, the older kid, never been to school.
He's a blacksmith, I guess.
He thinks he's back there in the fucking yard
banging out a fucking...
Forging some shitty metal pole.
And he's like, I can learn anything I want
because I learned how to make these metal
poles.
I'm a blacksmith.
If I want to stop making my poles, I go and play video games.
Have you ever thought about going to school?
Yeah, for like two seconds.
Why would I give this up?
That is, I would not, I would,
though I have no doubt any parent loves their kids, I think that's a misunderstanding of love.
It's like, how is that love?
It's laziness.
Yeah, it's really easy to fucking give your kid the Oreos.
It's real easy to do that.
It's very easy to like let your kid watch
seven hours of Blippi.
You could just sit and fucking do whatever you want. to like let your kid watch seven hours of Blippi.
You could just sit and fucking do whatever you want. Yeah, they don't bother you.
They don't bother you.
It's very easy.
But as they say, my brothers and sisters,
the road to hell is paved with Blippi DVDs.
So there's my rant. is paved with blippy DVDs.
So there's my rant, child sacrifice, global child sacrifice.
We're all participating and maybe the way to counterbalance
that global child sacrifice ritual
is not to become a sovereign citizen and go off the grid,
but maybe the way to do it is to counterbalance it
with a kind of internal sacrifice
of the ignorant part of oneself
in the name of the greater good.
Don't fucking hurt anybody and don't hurt any fucking kids.
Jesus Christ, anyone out there is fucking a little weird
right now and think that that's what I'm,
in any way, shape, or form insinuating. Hell no, you monstrous fuck. No way. But thinking in terms of sacrifice,
personal sacrifice, I think it's worth contemplating, worth thinking about.
Well, I got to get out of here. I'm going to Indianapolis. May God be with you. Hare Krishna. Goodbye.