Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 678: Soloooooooooooo
Episode Date: April 1, 2025We delve into Duncan's creepy box of tapes and study its mysterious hard drive. So far so good! Come see Duncan, April 19 in Denver, CO at the Portal Bicycle Day Late Night Takeover at Meow Wolf. Cel...ebrate the first ever trip by joining Duncan's Simulator Upgrade Workshop! Come sober, for god's sake!
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I almost bought one of those and then, thank God, the guy at the film store was like,
you don't want that. You don't know what you're doing.
You could just tell from looking at me because they're complex.
And he was just like, you can't buy this.
You don't know what you're doing.
You're... Why? He was right.
Because you have to get special lenses and gear for that, right?
No, this one, you just touch the back of the screen and it focuses on the face. Oh, well then fuck him
Yeah, he was lying to you. Why did he lie to me?
I wanted you to buy a camera that he makes more money on that's exactly what happened. Yep
Well, anyway, let's get some business out of the way
I want to announce something that I'm really excited about.
It's coming up in Denver.
And also to all of you in Denver who came out, sold out the ComedyWorks.
Thank you.
It was an insane weekend.
And I'm coming back to Denver.
I'm going to be there April 19th.
And it's this insane event celebrating one of my favorite holidays, bicycle day.
For those of you who don't know what bicycle day is, bicycle day is the day that we celebrate
the first intentional LSD trip taken by Albert Hoffman who famously came up on acid, the first acid trip,
riding his bicycle home, ended up having what I would imagine
as maybe the worst acid trip of all time,
because we all know, those of us who've taken LSD,
that at some point, hour five or six,
you're thinking, yeah, I'll come down soon,
and then you don't, you don't.
In fact, the acid is gonna hang on
for maybe another six hours, depending on how much it took.
And somewhere along the way,
it gets a little tedious sometimes.
And, but you know, and if you have a friend nearby
and you go to him with tears in your eyes,
you're like, I don't think I'm ever gonna come down.
Your friend will say, you'll come down, don't worry.
It just, it takes time.
And then you come down.
Hoffman didn't have that friend.
There was no friend.
There was no one on earth who'd ever gone through
what I think was like a 700, 600-microgram acid trip.
I could be wrong about that,
but that's a big, fat fucking dose of acid,
fresh to the universe LSD,
one of the first batches
ever created, hadn't even been on the planet that long, and he slurped it back,
rode his bike, had a terrible trip, saw demons, his wife not knowing what the
fuck was going on with him was giving him milk, which was an antidote. So if you
if you could make a top three list of things you wouldn't wanna consume on LSD,
I don't know if milk would make it in, I guess,
blood, placenta, shit, but somewhere, okay,
so top 20 list, somewhere milk should land there.
I don't wanna drink milk on acid,
so she's bringing him cold glasses of fucking milk,
he's raving, seeing demons, doesn't know if he's ever
gonna come down, but thanks to that suffering I guess you could say he died
so that we may live and now we have LSD and we all know about it and it's
helping people. There's neurogenesis, it has a lot of therapeutic applications
and also it's fun if you responsibly, kids, not for you, your brain's still fucking
developing.
I wish somebody had told me that when I was in high school.
But we didn't know.
We just thought it would drive you crazy because that was the propaganda back then, which is
if you something like if you take more than three hits of acid, you will go legally insane,
whatever the fuck that means.
And so we liked it that much that we were like,
I guess we're gonna go crazy this summer
because we loved it.
But we know much more about it now
and your brain is still developing up until your mid 20s.
So use it responsibly folks.
When I was younger, I wouldn't have said that,
but now I would say, come on. This is powerful medicine. I hate it when people call psychotelics medicine
I hate it. Why did I say that?
regardless April 19th
Meow-Wolf
convergence station
We are celebrating this beautiful powerful fucking day The opposite of the atom bomb went off
in Albert Hoffman's brain.
And we are still experiencing the ripples
from that daring bicycle ride.
And on April 19th, it's not gonna be standup at Meow Wolf.
I'm going to be doing,
also thank you to my friends over at BlackRock,
a simulator upgrade
workshop.
So you'll know more about that when you come, but it's going to be fucking awesome.
We're doing it in one of the most insane theaters I've ever seen.
It's 360 degrees, laser projection, like it's, I don't know how to explain it,
other than it definitely seems to be some kind of liminal space between this realm and
the Astral Realm. And the Meowth people are fucking cool. And I want to thank Portal and
Brandon for inviting me to do this. Also, I'm not going to be the only one there. Reggie
Watts is going to be there. There's going to be a lot of super cool people at this event,
and you're gonna be helping raise money for Portal.
You can find out everything you wanna find out about Portal,
the event, by going down there,
or if you're listening to this, going to dunkitrustle.com,
or just Google it.
All the links, they're out there.
So come, come to Meow Wolf.
Jesus, I've been to the one in Vegas.
You ever been to Meow Wolf, Josh?
I don't even know what that is.
Oh, it's so cool.
The one in Vegas is like a satirical grocery store.
Like you walk in, it seems like a grocery store.
All the products are fucking bizarre.
And then there's secret doors that lead to
like the most insane shit you've ever seen.
And I thought, I mean, that's mind blowing by itself, but.
This?
Yeah, that's it.
But look up Convergence Station.
Look at this.
Check out Convergence Station in Denver.
Omega Mart is fucking cool. I mean, these these are just like it's some bizarre art collective this reminds me of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles when the bad kids
go to the shredders place it looked like this yeah and see that see that the room
with the lines on the floor mm-hmm that is the room that I'm doing the show in.
Wow.
And everything, you can project anything you want anywhere.
The people running Meow Wolf are fucking
just hyperdimensional geniuses.
Literally anything that I've been asking for
for this show, they're just like,
yeah, no problem.
And I've been asking for weird shit.
But look at this place, look at it. Look at it. Imagine celebrating bicycle day there
I know I can't wait
It's so cool
So yeah come everyone april 19th. Let's hang out at meow wolf all night. It's gonna be a blast. Hopefully I'll see you there.
What was the other thing I'm supposed to?
Ah, that's good for now.
Sorry about that.
I just wanted, I'm very excited about it.
It's like, it's just so fun.
And this thing that I'm gonna be doing is really fun.
And come completely sober.
I know it's Bi's Nickel Day.
I know you's bicycle day,
I know you're gonna be at Meow Wolf
and there's some kind of intumation that we,
you know, that you would wanna get high
on bicycle day at Meow Wolf.
But for God's sake, kids, this is a sober night.
And we will be doing drug tests.
We will be doing piss tests at the door. And you will be doing drug tests. We will be doing piss tests at the door.
So, and you will be arrested if you don't take the piss test.
By that I mean the ladies will be peeing on me.
I can tell.
And that's bicycle day!
Now, so dude, okay, when I came into the studio today, uh, wait, I don't know, for
those of you who are just joining us, you have to go back a little bit, but, and I'm
not gonna tell the whole fucking story, but I got a creepy box of tapes.
So my dearest producer, Josh, has an update on these tapes.
What do you got, Josh?
Well, first of all, I want to thank you
for leaving that box here.
The energy here has been a little weird.
Ha ha, yeah, I had one in my house.
Honestly, my wife said I couldn't have it at the house.
Yeah, I remember that, and now I know why.
Are you serious about that, or are you joking?
They stay in that room, and nobody goes in that room.
So, that's what they are.
But I did find, at the bottom of the box a hard drive Wow
No fucking shit actually says DTFH. All right, that's fine. So I plugged it in no pornography
Unfortunately, wait you plug that shit into your computer crazy. Do you not watch?
2020 oh shit. I didn't think about that, dude
That's fucking crazy that you did that. I would never plug a hard drive into it.
That is, you might as well have like, gone to a fucking porno theater and stuck your cock in an anonymous puckered butthole.
It's probably less dangerous than what you did.
That's a fucking hard drive sent by an anonymous theoretical stalker
in a nasty ass box of tapes that you just said is evil
and you plugged that shit into your machine?
Well, I didn't think about it.
I kind of just did it because you want to know what was on it.
Well, thank you. I'm sorry to chastise you.
I mean, I just worry about you. That's scary.
Now I'm worried about my crypto on my computer
and that I should change password.
You should definitely do more than I mean I
Got an old computer you could use I guess I would work. Whatever. I don't make you pay
I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure it's fine. Just some creepy old hard-driving old box of tapes. I did find something though
What'd you find? I'll pull it up for you
Hold on wait a second is this
Honestly, if this is anything that seems to be like it's threatening me or anything
weird like I don't want to play it, is it?
I wouldn't say, I don't, just watch it.
Okay.
Yeah.
See what we got.
All right.
Definitely don't try this at home because it's illegal, which is why I won't say that
I just used a crowbar to pry open a hatch and climb down a ladder into an underground tunnel.
My guess is that this is the tunnel they used to carry nuclear missiles to the silo.
Can you get the audio up a little bit?
Here this tunnel is gigantic.
Not hauling missiles gigantic more like hauling Godzilla's gigantic.
Multiple Godzilla's stacked on top of each other.
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groundwater but aside from a puddle here and, this tunnel is dry as your mother's vagina
before she swipes right on my Tinder profile.
Okay, I'm standing in yet another room of boxes.
It's been like 20 rooms filled with taped up moving boxes.
Based on my impeccable research,
specifically browsing a Reddit thread,
this place isn't supposed to be this deep underground
and it's definitely not supposed to have fucking power.
And it's definitely, definitely not supposed
to have infinite rooms filled with boxes fuck it
I'll open this be euro dollars yay a box of old cassette tapes just what you
would expect to find in a missile silo
What the fuck?
What the fuck man
Wait go back go back. What did it say at the end? I have no idea but like go did just go back it sound
Go back. It's not like he was choking just play that play
This place isn't supposed to be this deep underground And it's definitely not supposed to have working power, and it's definitely definitely not supposed to have infinite rooms filled with boxes fuck it
not supposed to have infinite rooms filled with boxes. Fuck it.
I'll open one.
Come on, let this be Euro dollars.
Yay, a box of old cassette tapes.
Just what you would expect to find in a missile silo.
Senevox cassette tapes.
Can any audio files-
Oh yeah.
Echo, for two.
Echo, for two.
Echo, for two. What the fuck, man? Jesus Christ that sucks!
That was the only thing on the entire hard drive.
Ummm...
Well it's spring guys! Spring is in the air!
We umm... Guys, spring is in the air!
Wow.
That's creepy as fuck.
I have seen...
I mean, I got into it for a second. You've seen these like...
Like go on YouTube and look up
Exploring Abandoned Missile Silo.
Because I've seen shit like this before.
I mean, it's a whole genre of YouTube video.
Underground missile silo.
Yeah, I mean, this shit is fun to watch.
But yeah, I mean, there's kids,
like they find where these abandoned.
Like this one?
Yeah, what's that?
It's in Colorado, it says. says well i was just a young guy back
then jerry took us to the silo said he hates it when people sneak in you can see there's been a
lot of people down here i mean having that in your property you might as well just okay It is dark in there is really good flashlight to find our way around
It's full of old equipment wires and pipes now covered in paint from the hundreds of graffiti. Okay, that's okay
Go back. I've seen way better ones. This is the dude who owns the property, but I've seen like ones in Russia like guy exploring underground
military base Russia.
Yeah.
Like, no. Why would you do that?
Because you're a kid, you'd do that when you were younger.
Hell no.
You wouldn't do that when you were younger?
No.
I believe in ghost love.
This would have been,
someone would have been stationed here as a gun. And be able to shoot anyone coming in.
To protect this entrance.
Yeah. So like whatever that is appears to be like some...
Be able to live here while also...
Some version of this I guess.
But um...
I guess. But I guess, I don't know.
Look up like, I don't know how we'd even find this podcast
without the website.
Like look up, I don't know.
Look up Urban Explorer tapes or something box of tapes
He had something in his hand too. That must have been a gun. No, that's not that that's not the dude that was on that
fucking door video
Yeah, that sounded like it was from the freaking 50s or something it sounded like shit yeah
Yeah, but these videos are curb these videos are super creepy and
It's a whole it's like a whole
like interesting like hobby, which is
Has a lot of levels to it like one of them is like just we have all of these
dead buildings in the United States and
of these dead buildings in the United States and no one's allowed access to, you have, which is really crazy when you consider like how many abandoned malls there are, you have
abandoned malls, just dead empty malls, and then you have a growing population of people
who don't have homes.
But they don't put them in there. They could restructure the malls, they could make it some kind of community, but they don't have homes. But they don't put them in there.
They could restructure the malls,
they could make it some kind of community,
but they don't.
They just let it rot.
And so there's a political angle accidentally
to these videos where people go in
and they're really kind of filming
like disintegrating America
or disintegrating capitalism.
Like look up abandoned mall tapes these I love
There we go. Oh
in the crow car
My god, look at that shit. You think he added that?
Yeah, I
hope so
Yeah, listen to the music too. This is perfect. This is good work
Okay, wow still got the gumballs in it look at that
Isn't that nuts man now join us creepers jump all the way in the middle good just jump right to the middle oh
Yeah, she started bleeding at 19 weeks. Oh my god
What the fuck don't laugh at that you monster. I didn't laugh he thinks it's funny guys
That's what I'm working with
That's what makes you laugh. Why did that come on crying right now?
Okay
Why did that come up?
Okay
Oh, I forgot the quarters
It's funny they're in a dead abandoned mall, but they don't want to break the gumball machine open To put them they're all open. Oh, yeah. I'm sure you can just get them out
Yeah, don't break the law guys. I'd hate it if you broke the double bubble ancient gumball fucking balls
That'd be terrible for this mall
It's like $140 worth of gumballs. It is a it's funny. You know, the number dollar value of those is a quick analysis. I
Think this was a bank
Yeah, it says tellers right there that could be a lot of things
So in the 90s you could go
to the mall
To do your banking guy they're acting like you're talking about ancient Egypt in the 90s
In the 90s they had
Gumball machines inspiration and Interesting choice of things to film.
Textures.
Don't you know that this is a movie set?
All our videos are fake?
Oh yeah.
There's fish in here.
There's little tadpoles.
Oh my god, it's got life.
That's a bad incarnation.
Tadpole in a dead mall.
Those aren't tadpoles. That's come that's living jizz
That's good. That's their jizz
Go to that. This is somehow not not as great as I thought it'd be but you get the vibe, right? It's just like
these dead malls the urban decay as they call it just these
ulcers on the on the carcass of America and no one knows what to do with them because it
cost so much money to tear them down.
And nobody wants to build anything there, so it just rots.
And it represents a dead dream.
It represents someone at some point invested a shit ton of money,
raised a lot of money,
because malls were so incredible in the day.
Yeah, I've seen it kill a town.
What?
I've seen it kill a town.
Oh, they would kill towns.
Well, yeah, because there's a place in Hardin, Texas
and you walk into that mall and it's creepy
because it looks nice, nobody's in it.
Nobody's in it, just the people that work there.
That's so weird.
Yeah.
Some, for some reason, well, because, well, because they linger for a little bit.
I've seen these on the road.
You know, God, where is that?
I'm trying to think what city it is.
The club is right under a dead mall.
And you're excited when you're on the road
and there's a mall next to your hotel,
because you're like, oh, great,
you inevitably have forgotten something, right?
I'll just run over there, grab some socks, whatever it is you need.
Lube.
Can't fly with lube if you have to check your bag.
So the, you get into the mall and you realize, oh no,
it's a dead mall.
And just what you're saying, these eerie storefronts with one person working in
them, no one's there.
The whole fucking place is empty except you. eerie storefronts with one person working in them, no one's there.
The whole fucking place is empty except you.
And these people working there are deadened by the effect of being in a vacuous failed
mall with no one in it except for like crackheads.
There were like crackheads wandering around and like curled up in the corners of the mall. And they're like, if I had to choose between
spending a night, like let's say they, I don't know if they tore it down but the
Amityville house, right? That's supposedly one of the real haunted houses in the
world. If I had to choose between spending the night in that place or spending the night in a
dead mall, I'm going Amityville House, man.
You're doing dead mall.
Dead mall all the way.
What do you think's gonna happen in the Amityville House?
What happens if I take that with me
and I come back and I kill my entire family?
You really think you can carry ghosts away from a place?
You can carry spirits.
I do believe that.
Like germs.
You get, they rub off on you.
Yeah, I know what you mean mean I've had that feeling before
When you when you go to some like shitty place that you shouldn't be
Then you come back to the house and you got you got that kind of contaminated feeling. Mm-hmm And then no matter what just because you came back from a contaminated place
Not like literally radioactive, but a place where like a recent murder happened.
Or bad energy.
Bad energy zone.
And then you go back to your house
and then anything could happen, just some random event.
Just a creek you're not used to,
something thumping around,
and you're gonna associate it with the place you just were,
even though it probably has nothing to do with it.
But just that effect, they call them hitchhikers.
Are you saying that I always wanted
to kill my whole family?
I'm saying that's the first thing
that came out of your mouth.
That's true.
I mean, I'm thinking like,
oh, maybe there'll be like an anomalous thump.
You're like, I'll probably just kill my whole family.
Isn't that what happened at that house though in the movie oh shit okay but maybe I
mean it does happen look I want a six-pack like Ryan Reynolds I want a
fucking six-pack and honestly like I'd probably do a lot of things to get that
Ryan Reynolds pack that's a haunted six pack. Haunted with like passion, attraction.
But yeah, I don't, look, I hate going into haunted houses.
I do, I really don't understand the phenomena
of ghost hunters who go into haunted houses.
Because the very best thing for the show
is potentially the very worst thing for you, which is you
actually find a real haunted house.
It's like basically going into a place that's been hotboxed by ghosts.
Would you want to sit in the flatulence of your older brother, like,
in it filled up a whole house, and if you leave the house, you're gonna smell like farts
in the same way you're gonna smell like fish if you are a fish chef somewhere. I don't know if
that's a distinction with chefs, but you know what I mean. Sushi chefs come home and they smell like
fish. If somebody went into a house that was filled with farts, they would go home and they smell like fish. Mm-hmm. If somebody went into a
House that was filled with farts. They would go and smell like farts
Therefore this is science if you go into a house where there's ghosts
You're gonna come home not stinking of ghosts, but with that
Dark energy around you. Mm-hmm. And then
your house
It's you know what? It kind of like? Dude, this is
like you know, infidelity is fucked up on a lot of different levels. Level one, you
have to deal with the fact that you're gaslighting potentially like the mother or father of your kids, right?
So that sucks.
So you have to, you create a weird little rift in your perception of things where you,
I guess, push all of the fucks that you secretly did, your secret fucks.
You have a little compartment in your brain where you push your secret fucks.
Because if you're thinking about your secret fucks
in front of your partner, they're gonna see that.
They can tell you.
In your eyes.
They see in your eyes that glitter, cheaters glitter.
And so you can't, so you basically have to like
almost create a parallel reality in your own brain,
which is the, that I don't know who that is,
that's the person who does secret fucks. And then
there's the you, you know, you're picking up your kids,
you're laughing, and you're, in any time even the vaguest tendril of
just thinking about bare backing that fucking Hooters waitress in some shitty hotel comes into your mind,
you gotta shut it down, shut it down.
So that's bad for you. It's bad for your family. That's fucked up.
But then there's like more like physical dangers, and I've heard of this happening, dude.
Somebody cheats.
They get VD. Oof. And then all of a sudden their wife or their husband's like, babe,
why do I have herpes?
And they have to be like, did you fuck somebody? Are you cheating on me?
You know what I mean?
That's the only option.
Yeah.
You have to, because really what happened is
you have herpes and you gave it to your fucking husband
or your wife.
And so that's messed up.
So that's a long way of talking about ghost contagion.
When you go to a ghost house, you get VD.
And you can bring it back.
And your whole family has herpes.
And your whole family has fucking ghosts.
That's probably better than VD,
but still, I mean, it's no good.
When I was younger, you know you're interested in this shit.
You wanna summon demons, you wanna see the ghost,
the specter, the spirit.
You wanna have the encounter
with a metaphysical entity or whatever.
But when you have experienced anything
remotely close to that, you don't want that anymore
if you're smart.
It's gross.
They're never happy.
You ever seen a ghost?
No, I've never wanted to though.
It sucks.
Have you seen a ghost?
Yes.
Where?
Well, I'm sorry if I've talked about this already.
Maybe there's some new people who haven't heard this story.
I'll tell you, this is a real ghost encounter that I had.
And up until this point, I did, you know,
obviously believe in, like, I believe people
when they tell me they've had this experience
or that experience, but you know,
I think all of us kind of lean into skepticism
to protect ourselves from that realm.
It just makes you feel safe.
So I'm in New Orleans.
And why did I say New Orleans?
Because I don't talk like that.
I'm in New Orleans and I'm staying at the Omni Hotel.
And I have the craziest fucking dream ever, man.
And like I have dreams all the time,
but everyone wants to have like a,
I gotta write this down dream.
And I always write it down.
There's dreams that are very different. These are significant dreams. They seem like visions visions
So here's the dream
I'm in the Arctic
You know how dreams are I'm in like Antarctica. I don't know there's snow everywhere, right? I'm in a tent
I'm with my girlfriend in the tent.
Now, I hear a thump outside the tent.
Big loud thump.
Go out there.
Unzip the tent, go out.
Laying in the snow, there's a body bag.
Like a body bag fell out of the sky.
Because it's a dream, of course.
I go and unzip the body bag.
Now, in the body bag, I'm sorry, Pete.
It obviously wasn't Pete Holmes.
But in the body bag, it looks like Pete Holmes, right?
And...
That's a big body bag.
He's a tall dude.
Yeah.
So...
There's this fucking cadaver in there with a note shoved in its pocket. It stands up.
Somehow I'm not terrified.
I'm reading the note in its pocket.
This motherfucking cadaver has written a love letter to my girlfriend. I get so mad that I grab the cadaver who's alive,
looks like Pete Holmes,
and escort him out of the Antarctica,
shove him out of the dream essentially, right?
There are other parts of the dream.
I wish I still had the journal
because I wrote all this shit down.
Like, there was another, when I took him out of the Antarctica. It was like I was in a record store weird
Candles weirdly lit record store, right? Okay, so there's the dream right whatever fucking weird dream
Just a strange dream, but I wrote it down and it you know dreams like that
They follow you around a little bit
So I felt kind of weird that day, but that night
We're at the bar
Just getting drinks
Talking to the bartender, and I said to her this is New Orleans. You know it's a spooky city. I'm like
Any do you have any ghost stories about the hotel? Just shooting the shit?
She goes you want me to tell you the hotel? Just shooting the shit.
She goes, you want me to tell you the one we're not supposed to tell guests?
I'm like, yeah.
Well, as it turns out, that hotel
was the hotel that this dude
who chopped up his fucking girlfriend
during Hurricane Katrina jumped off of with a suicide note
in his pocket.
Like what the fuck?
Now look up Hurricane Katrina murderer.
Now obviously it doesn't look like Pete Ohm's exactly.
Click on the one where he's smoking right there.
Look at that.
That kind of like blondish hair, you know what I mean?
Like yeah, does he look exactly Pete Olm's fucking nose? It's the same kind of hair color though. Now see look
Here's the thing. This is my theory on ghosts and
specifically
And this dream informed my theory on ghosts
Because that dude jumped out of the hotel with a suicide note in his fucking pocket.
He killed his fucking girlfriend, right?
So here's my theory on ghosts or paranormal experiences.
Player pianos.
So player piano.
You stick the same sheet music into a player piano.
It's that shit that has the bumps in it, tells the keys when to ding.
I'm a real musician. It's that shit has the bumps and it tells the keys when the when the ding
So if I take player piano sheet music and put it into a well-tuned player piano
It's gonna sound completely different than when I put
Player piano music in a player piano that's missing keys another way to put it is printer ink
You know depending on what kind of ink you have in your printer,
you might have the original data that tells the printer to print out this, but it's gonna look different according to the ink in the printer.
So, this dream made me think that
whatever the
stuff is that hangs around that we call ghosts.
It somehow interacts with some part of your psyche.
But if you don't have the right color ink in there,
it can't do the exact replica of whatever it is.
It's just gonna do the,
your brain is just gonna serve up
the closest thing it's got, right?
So dude jumps off building with a suicide note in his pocket
That's the third what that's the third right so my brain
Not having an exact picture of this guy just some I have Pete Holmes kind of has the same hair color as this dude and
Uses Pete Holmes in the fucking cadaver back right? But where it gets weirder look this shit up
Read the story about what he did
With the fucking with his girlfriend's body
Let's just read the story please said the mystery began on Tuesday when the body of Zachary Bowen was found on top of a parking
Garage that's where he jumped a suicide note in his right front pocket
That's where the fucking Noah's in the dream. That's where it fucking was. I did not know the
story. Scroll down. According, wait go back up to, according to news reports, two pots were sitting
on the stove, one containing a woman's head and another holding her hands and feet. But where
it gets really weird, dude, is where that apartment was.
Where that apartment was?
It was over a voodoo shop.
And so I think my brain translated record store,
translated voodoo shop to record store.
Cause it's like, you know.
And you said weird candles too.
Yes, so it's like my brain just used whatever,
like it just rifled through my blurry
memories and threw together some amalgam of whatever that energy imprint was and it manifested
as a dream. That's what I think at least some forms of ghost encounters are. You know it's like
the best scene in any movie, The Shining. You know that's, if you watch The Shining?
I've seen parts of it.
Okay, pull up YouTube, pull up The Shining burnt toast.
The point is, he describes ghosts as like,
when you burn toast, the smell of it sticks around.
So yeah, man, that's my theory is that like, you know,
if you are even remotely vaguely open,
that vibe that you're feeling,
that's like the ridges of a record.
That's the bumps in the player.
That's the vaguest sort of data set
and the clairvoyance and people who can like,
you know, figure out murders and shit. They're just really good at reading what that is
They know how to like take that data in and like from it do some kind of sketch in their own head
Sometimes even knowing the names of people who are murdered in places and stuff like that
But I think something it's left behind and that's what we call ghosts. It's like are there sentient
beings it's to me it's left behind. And that's what we call ghosts. Like, are there sentient beings? To me it's more like AI clones. Like, anytime I, and I've heard other people talk about
this too, like that cadaver being, it had this confused quality to it, right? It was
like half asleep, like it was drugged on Ambien or something like that. And just sort of out
of it, you know, just confused, dumb, confused. And other times I've like, picked up on ghosts. That's what they seem like. Dumb, confused, drugged, sedated.
Stuck.
Stuck. Yeah, stuck. And so it's like whatever that is, it's some residual ripple of their
soul. I think they've probably moved on, but they've left behind some personality structure
that hasn't diffused into time or something.
And there's enough there that it still has some kind of, like, I don't know, personality
in the way people with dementia still have a little bit of themselves there, but they're
mostly gone bye-bye.
It's that.
That's what a ghost is.
Dumb, confused, and just sort of like
out of it. You know? That's a ghost. Whereas like when they talk about demons, I think
those things are like clear as a fucking bell. I think whatever they are is a completely
different thing. You know, they're more like a hyperdimensional extrusion of some kind
of dark personality that's poking its dick into time. I feel like kids see ghosts more.
Dude, they definitely do!
And adults see demons more.
Interesting. Interesting.
I mean, you know, I...
It doesn't bother me that people are gonna make fun of me for this,
but I am convinced that there are gonna make fun of me for this, but I am convinced that there are countless entities
and forms of life around us at any given moment.
They're just all there. You just can't see them.
And some of them can't see you, and some of them can.
I'll tell you, though, one of the coolest explanations
I got for some haunted houses was coast to coast.
And I was just tuning in, random time.
And so the explanation is this.
In some houses, in some parts of the world, time space itself is distorted.
So what's happening, it's like that movie Interstellar. Time space is distorted. So what's happening, it's like that movie
Interstellar, time space is distorted. So what's happening is the past is leaking
into the present and the present is leaking into the past. And so what you
think is a ghost is actually you're seeing the past in that very same house.
Like whatever was happening in your kitchen,
it's happening still because time,
everything happens at once.
And so in some places somehow that is more apparent
than others and that is a really cool explanation
of haunted houses.
My brother scared the crap out of me
because my grandmother died in our house.
And well, she lived there and then we moved in
with my grandfather and she had died
maybe six months before this.
And we're going to bed and the door closed, right?
And my little brother, he's like six,
gets up and goes, goodnight grandma.
And then put his head down and I started screaming.
And my dad's like, nah, that's not what it was.
The AC probably pulled the door in
and your brother just said that.
And I'm just, I'm freaking the hell out.
Yeah, you were scared of ghosts.
Yeah, terrifying.
Even though I love my grandma, I miss my grandmother.
You don't love her that much.
You don't like ghosts, grandma.
Move on, grandma, that's all I'm saying.
Get out of the house, you're dead!
Yeah, well, I mean, the, the...
Oh, I had two grandmas die in that house.
Well, I had a grandma die in that house too.
Damn, you gotta keep grandmas out of the house.
Yeah, I don't have no more grandmas.
The house eats grandmas.
Well, blame the house.
Yep.
The, the, for sure, when getting close to death,
weird shit happens, man. People see things, they say weird fucking things, they see their family around them,
dead relatives.
Like, you know, did I ever tell you this story when I volunteered for a hospice?
Oh my god.
When I look back at the series of decisions that led me to think I was ready to volunteer for a hospice,
whatever that was was just hubris.
Like, you should volunteer for a hospice,
everyone out there, I mean, it's incredibly good work.
But I just was.
How old are you?
I was like in my 20s, and I just wanted to do volunteer work.
I wanted, I don't know what I was doing, man.
Like, I was basically, I was just stumbling around L.A.
I don't know what the fuck I was doing, man,
but somehow I thought it would be a good idea to volunteer for hospice. Now, this hospice gave a orientation for volunteers.
Orientation was led by this mystical dude
who had been like a multimillionaire,
had gotten struck by lightning,
had had the near-death experience, and had been told in
the other realm that his job, his life going forward, was not to be a business person,
but to help people transition into the next life.
So he gave up his ambition and job and he became this like, started running hosp hospices teaching people how to sit with dying people all that
Totally normal seeming guy, but like I just remember one of the things he said is uh, you know, what's over there?
Makes this look like a shadow. Like what's over there is way better way better than here here is
like I is way better, way better than here. Here is like, I think he called it a time warp
or something, it's a warp, I think is what he said it was.
But which is why, generally you will hear when people die,
they don't wanna come back.
They get pushed back by some force,
sometimes their families, like you're not done there,
you're not out of school yet, it's nice to see you, but you still have to go to school.
And so they come back here completely changed, transformed.
So, and that was all fascinating and interesting.
And by the end of the workshop, I felt,
okay, yeah, I'm totally ready to do this work.
And so I had my first volunteer call.
There's someone who needs help, it's at this apartment,
drive over there, open the door, ladies in the living room,
crying.
She's saying, who's gonna take care of the rabbit?
Who's gonna take care of the rabbit? Who's gonna take care of the rabbit?
And, you know, when you walk into a house
that's filled with, I mean, I just can't even,
it's a wall of grief, a wall of just,
I can't even explain the energy level.
It was overwhelming.
And right away I'm like, oh, I'm a,
this is way above my pay grade here. They shouldn't send me in. I'm like, oh, I'm a... This is way above my pay grade here.
They shouldn't send me in.
I'm the volunteer.
I don't know what's happening here,
but whatever the fuck the mystical ex-millionaire said
was out of my brain.
And then, walking out of the bedroom
comes a man whose face is basically falling off.
And he goes in the kitchen, gets a slice of pizza, walks by me, waves, big smile on his
face, seemed like a smile.
And that's the other thing that dying people have is that like it's crazy the lucidity they can exhibit before like they
Become incapacitated completely while all of us are freaking the fuck out
they like have started plugging into something much bigger and
Then I go in the other room. She shows me there's rabbits. I guess they had rabbits
You know what you're looking at there is
If I had to guess
Just a classic beginning relationship maybe you know two people decide to move in together in an apartment
Somebody got diagnosed with brain tumors brain tumors somehow
manifested in his face
They've gotten rabbits probably before all the shit had happened. And you know what you're seeing is like this
very unexpected
change in circumstance.
Because these were young people.
So then I get on my phone like, hey guys.
Like, I
don't know if you should send in the volunteer for this one. This
probably need a nurse over here or something. Because she was saying he's been kind of
out of it and he keeps turning the burners on on the stove. So right away
this woman comes from the hospice, calls the ambulance to pick him up. He's ready
to go to the hospital. He shouldn't be staying in his apartment anymore. And I
remember he's in the ambulance and I'm dazed.
I've just been sledgehammered by reality.
I've never seen anything like that before in my fucking 20s.
I'd never seen that reality.
And I remember this guy, I said, we'll never forget him sitting in that ambulance right
before they shut the doors.
Looks me right in the eyes.
And another somehow radiant smile on his face.
I've never seen anything like that before.
And a really friendly wave to me.
And also a kind of sparkle in his eye.
Like I just blew this fucking kid's mind.
Like, welcome to reality, man!
This is what reality is.
They shut the doors thinking it was drive them away.
Now, they sent me back to the hospice where he was at
to see if they need anything.
A few days later, maybe a week, I don't remember.
And I remember that fucking orientation,
they were like, why don't you,
sometimes you can offer,
see if they want you to play music for them.
It's weird.
And I had that in my head.
This is how dumb I am.
I'm like, maybe they want me to play the Grateful Dead.
Oh my God.
So I go into their room and there's that woman
holding hands with him.
He's in bed now, he's like asleep. He's sleeping.
Giving him morphine, I guess.
And...
I think I did say it.
You guys, you wanna listen to Grateful Dead?
She's like, no! Oh, no, he was awake.
He was awake. They both are like, what?
They seem like... an incredible couple.
Like they would have been fun to hang out with.
And the reaction was exactly the funniest reaction
you could have.
Like, no.
Like, what are you trying to make it worse?
And he looked at me, he goes,
maybe I'm misremembering this and she told me this,
I'm pretty sure he said this.
Yeah, he did. He said,
my brother visited me... yesterday.
And said, we're going on a trip.
And he goes, but he didn't tell me where.
I sleep. And then she says to me,
his brother died.
Oh, dude!
And then a few days later, he dropped his body.
But, whoa!
Whoa!
And that encounter with family members who have passed on is very common.
They just show up.
Yeah, my great-grandma had dreams of my great-grandfather before she died.
And she started giving all her stuff away.
Oh my God.
It's so cool.
Assuming you have a good relationship with your family.
Correct.
But yeah, that's the craziest thing about it,
is there's all of these similarities
in people who are about to die.
That is just wild.
And the energy, you remember the energy
around your grandmother?
You remember what that was like?
The other experience I had, and I only did a few of these.
One of my favorites was I went to this lady's house,
because mostly I was just a messenger.
I was like an errand boy.
I would just pick up groceries and shit.
And like I went to this one house.
I don't know who it was, ex Hollywood starlet.
I knew that because like pictures
of her all over the wall, beautiful, but black and white.
If I was more of a cinephile, I probably know who it was,
but I wouldn't say because that's not cool.
She's laying in bed.
I walk in, there was someone there. How you doing?
She looks at me and goes,
how does it look like I'm doing?
That was awesome. She was funny too.
And um,
but the other one...
You're thinking of me one of those people like, I'm ready to die, hurry up, come on.
Me?
Well,
I mean, I don't,
I don't know.
You never know how you're going to face it.
I would have said yes to that before I had kids, but you know, when you add the addition
of kids to the equation, I think that's going to be really hard to say.
I think by the time, hopefully I'm old when I die,
but when you get to a certain age,
you start intuiting what's coming
and you're not quite as afraid of it generally.
You might be, depending on your practice
or whatever your connection is with the eternity.
But I think there's a sort of poignant and very difficult saying goodbye to your family
and comforting them.
You don't want them to suffer.
You don't want, you want them to be okay more than you want you to be okay.
And I think that's what happens to a lot of dying people is they become the hospice worker
for their relatives.
They're calming them, comforting them,
it's gonna be okay.
Depending on what kind of karma they have.
Some people, it's not an easy experience,
some people it is, it just depends.
That's another thing they say in the hospice.
People die as they live.
So the entire pattern of your life re-emerges
as you approach death,
you repeat the same shit in different ways.
It's like the whole thing loops one last time, but quickly.
So you'll go through all your habitual patterns and stuff.
And if you haven't figured out a way
to overcome your reactivity,
then that can show up as like a very disturbing last few
days for your family.
It just depends.
Yeah.
I had a friend that happened to where he had stage four cancer, but for like four years.
So his wife was taking care of him.
Towards the end, you can tell he was wearing on her, having four years of almost dying.
And then he would code, but anytime anytime he code he wanted to come back
So it wasn't like let him go the last time that they brought him back
He confessed to his wife of some infidelity ah shit. Yeah, so I'm like oh he saw something
Yeah, he saw something and confessed and then after that it wasn't she was pretty pissed off. It's like damn for you
That he was like I'm out after that he was out
Yeah, not coming back. Yeah. Not coming back.
Yeah, exactly.
Hey, I cheated on you.
Ah.
He had to get it off his chest.
Well, yeah, that is exactly right.
Like, you don't wanna, you know,
and that's why these deep, dark secrets are not good.
You gotta get them, you gotta find a way to like,
you know, there was actually...
In San Francisco, if you look at the history of Burning Man,
there was this group of urban explorers,
and I think they were called the San Francisco Suicide Club.
And so, the San Francisco Suicide Club,
they would, their members would tie up all the loose ends
as though they were going to die the next day. That was the thing. Like as though they were going to die,
act like you're going to die, pretend you're going to die, and take care of all the bullshit.
Call the people you need to call, set things right, get your fucking, you know, will done,
get it all taken care of right now, prepare for death. That was the beginning part. set things right, get your fucking will done,
get it all taken care of right now, prepare for death.
That was the beginning part.
And then new members would be taken on this blindfolded tour
of some abandoned place.
You're blindfolded.
Someone's leading you in the dark, holding your hand.
It feels like you're walking maybe on a beam.
And the person would say to you, if you move one step to the right, you're going to fall
to your death.
So don't.
Don't panic.
But if you don't follow me exactly, you're going to die.
The end of it, they take the blindfold off, there's a huge fucking party, you're now a
member of the San Francisco Suicide Club.
So that transformed into something called
the Cacophony Society, which is this culture-jamming
art collective that would, once a year,
they would burn this effigy on the beach in San Francisco.
And people would gather to watch the burning of this thing,
and then it got too big.
And so San Francisco's like, you can't do this anymore.
You gotta get permits and shit.
And so they took it out to the desert,
and that became Burning Man.
But, so this practice of looking death in the eye
and fucking dealing with it now is like very healthy,
very healthy, and if you don't do that,
when it sneaks up on you,
and sometimes it does, then you will die
in this kind of chaotic, befuddled way.
But if you are like strong enough to just know,
yeah, of course you're gonna die,
what do you think, you're not gonna die.
And then you take care of it,
then that's the most compassionate thing
you can do for your family too.
Is that the same thing as what Skull and Bones does where they do the fake death?
And I heard Freemasons do that too, once you get to a certain degree.
Yeah, well I think the Masons, that's the initiation, isn't it?
I have no idea.
I don't either.
I do think that's the initiation.
I think the initiation, pull up Masonic Coffin.
I think you have to like take your wedding ring off even so you're like
you're basically reborn and so you've been you've been resurrected from the
dead you're beginning of your first day as a Freemason is your first day of life
you're starting over right they pull you from the coffin you're starting over and
then you know you go through the various degrees
and you learn all this stuff,
which I have no idea what it is, but must be cool.
And according to Matt Damon, they also can pee on you.
Well, it was in a movie, he's being initiated in the CIA.
That's the skull and bones.
Yeah, they pee on them.
I thought the skull and bones, they jerk off on you.
Oh, they could do that.
Onto a glass coffin. Look up skull and bones, jerk off on you. Oh, they could be that onto a glass coffin Look up skull and bones glass coffin jerk cum
I'm gonna get off of images. You should unplug that hard drive while you're doing this shit
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Yeah, there you go. Reddit. Red Dead Online. Oh, there it is. Look. The initiation of...
Oh, it's a video!
Oh, it's Red Dead Redemption.
Scroll down. Did Red Dead Redemption fucking...
Just look up. I can't believe that's the first thing that popped up is Red Dead Redemption.
Look, I don't know. The point is, you apparently, like, I didn't know you jerked off in the coffin.
I thought they jerked off onto the coffin.
There's probably meetings where they're like, guys, why don't we jerk off on the coffin?
I'm tired of watching guys jerk off in the coffin. It's not fair. Why does he get to come? Yeah, but this is like in you know, a lot of different societies fraternal organizations initiatory systems
There is the descent into the underworld. This is the Elucinian mysteries where
Initiates would be given some kind of psychedelic brew called Kaikyon and then
They would go into like a labyrinth. No one really knows what it was, but it represented the descent into the underworld.
And then in that darkness, you were like reborn and then you would, you know, be taken out
of the underworld, a completely new person.
And the near-death experience mimics this pattern, which is you actually do die. You encounter the abyss, the next
phase of your evolution as a soul in the universe, but for whatever reason you've
got to come back. And that's why whenever anyone comes back from those things
they're always better, they're changed, they're more compassionate, they're more
focused on like things that matter, they're more compassionate. They're more focused on things that matter.
They're less fixed on the material world.
They've seen the transient nature of life itself
and it resurrects you.
Unless you're George Bush.
Did he have an NDE?
He was in Skull and Bones, right?
Well yeah, that's true.
That's way, yeah dude, I mean, look, if like,
laying in a coffin with dudes jerking off on you
made you enlightened, I'd be the fucking Buddha.
I'll just leave it at that.
It doesn't work.
You gotta actually have the trans,
this is the hardcore psychedelic experience.
This is like when someone like goes deep into psychedelics and they come back and they're
changed forever for the better because they caught a glimpse of infinity and this- whatever
this bullshit we're up to here starts seeming like a protracted game of make-believe invented
by warmongers.
You just- you're over it. You're like, you're in the world, but you're not of the world, as they say.
Look at Lazarus. Jesus reaches into the tomb, pulls Lazarus out. It's the moment of infinity reaching into your life and bringing you the
baptism of John the Baptist.
You're born again.
But you can't be born again unless you die.
Otherwise you weren't born.
So there's a death in there that they don't talk about.
The plunging into the water represents the...
What do they say? Is it expatiate?
Your sins are washed away, but it's not just that.
You're dipped into infinity.
You're annihilated and then reassembled.
And then that reassembly,
all the impure shit gets washed away.
You're born again.
This is a possibility in any human life.
Sounds like resurrection, the other ones,
where they think they die from taking the psychedelics.
What is that?
The resurrection, where Jesus came back.
You know what I mean?
Like he resurrected.
Yo, yeah, exactly.
And Jesus went to hell apparently.
For three days. Three three days went down to hell
Was born and it came out of the tomb after having like wrestled with the darkness
Yeah, he became spawn and started fighting everybody dude
I mean something fuck Mel Gibson's got a movie coming out about that. Do you know that?
He's got a movie look up Mel Gibson's new movie
What is the passion of the Christ to it's I think it's literally Passion of the Christ part 2.
Can you pause it for a second?
I don't want to be blasphemous, but if I had holes in my fucking hand and I was going to
visit a lady, I would put bandages on.
I think it's rude to have this daylight shining through the holes in your hand.
Just whistling.
I would at least close them.
Yeah.
They're like, I don't know, man.
I- there are gloves.
They had gloves back then.
Not- I mean, look.
It's Jesus.
He could do whatever he wants.
I mean, look.
The Passion of the Christ
is a hard act to follow.
It's like, I respect Mel Gibson for trying
to do Passion of the Christ too.
But dude, what I've gathered from that
is we don't get what I thought,
which is like Jesus in hell.
Oh yeah.
I'm buying a ticket for Jesus in hell. I, yeah, I'm buying a ticket for Jesus in hell
I don't think I'm buying a ticket for what appears to be just like a long like the scene that should show up after the credits roll
you know what I mean like
Maybe it'll be good, but I mean pull up passion to Christ
All right, that's enough. I remember
People watching it and it was like a bunch of people from my church and women just weeping,
like crying, crying.
I was like whoa.
Well that's good, dude, this is what I-
It was intense.
Here's what I love about,
and you know, this is like a conversation
that my wife and I have an ongoing dialogue
about Christianity.
And I love it.
Because Christianity is fucking completely different
than most people think it is.
Most people don't even get into the driveway of Christianity, and I don't blame them, because
they see mega church pastors, vaguely sexual megalomaniacs asking for money to buy Porsches.
Or they see private jets and shit.
Like that creepy dude, pull up that creepy televangelist
Oh my god. This is so good. I'm sure everyone's seen this but as long as I'm showing clips
creepy televangelist
Confronted about jets. Yeah, you know I'm talking about that spooky ass, dude. He did a blood sacrifice in his church
Say I did oh
That part.
We wrestle not with flesh and blood.
Okay.
The principalities and powers.
Can you explain what you meant by that?
So you just don't like to be in a tube.
Dude, I mean, okay.
In his defense,
I can't think of a better way
to describe
flying commercial than being in a tube with demons. I don't mean the people I mean the fucking stinks the farts, you know when you get a
commercial flight farter just like for whatever reason people just feel like they can blast farts up in the sky and
so suddenly just someone's doing like
do I've been on planes where like I
won't names name names, but I was flying with
someone once. And I don't honestly, I respect her for this. She just yelled, stop it! Because someone kept blowing like horrible farts. Like it was terrible. So like, yes, tube of demons, but I mean, more to the point, like, you know, just like,
that guy looks like he just climbed out of like,
a cow carcass and washed off.
He looks like he sleeps in dead things.
He looks like he could climb a tree way too fast.
He looks like he could sprout wings.
Like, this is the, and of course, from the cosmology of Christianity and an analysis of the, if we're going to
bifurcate God into good and evil, if somehow there is some personified form of evil in
the universe, it's not going the adversary is way more clever than that it would go around like, you know,
Richard Dawkins in everybody.
It would infiltrate the system itself.
And by being in the system and parading about as the very worst possible example of the
thing of essentially a satire of the thing, it corrupts the thing because people see that
and then they associate that psycho with Christianity.
And they're not interested, why would you be?
That keeps people out of the driveway.
Did you see when he cut his hand and put blood into the-
Pull it up, pull it up, you'll need to see that one.
That was fun.
Kenneth Copeland. Kenneth Copeland.
Kenneth Copeland!
And then I would do the same.
I don't think they really cut their hands. They're using fucking cranberry juice.
Fucking pussies.
There's no blood.
You pussies!
Jesus said take this cup.
Okay, whatever.
You're gonna go watch more of this dumbass.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Grow some fucking balls, Copeland.
Cut your fucking hand.
You're really gonna use cranberry juice up there?
You've...
Whoa, look at that.
That looks like something that would fly into your window
if you were vacationing in a castle.
The way he talks, dude.
Is mixed with my blood.
Oh, God.
Can you see it?
Good.
What, do I scare you?
What?
I don't seem like I'm filled with God's light.
Yeah, so that's like, I get it.
But then when you encounter actual Christianity, you weirdly see how absolutely bizarre it is that of all the world religions,
that's the one that gets the most pushback, that's the one that gets judged, that's the
one that's like, you fucking Christian, what?
Then you see the thing itself and what you're witnessing is insane, at least in Catholicism.
And it goes back to the haunted house thing.
They don't, when like most of us who aren't Christians are thinking about Christianity,
we see a group of people that seem like obsessed with a maybe historic figure from a long time
ago.
And that's what we think.
We're like, all right, this guy walked thousands of years ago on the earth.
When you see real Christianity, every fucking year, they're going through this cycle. And the devout Christian is experiencing the crucifix.
Like right now it's Lent. Jesus goes out in the desert to pray and he gets tempted.
And so you see the people with ash on their head and you see the people with the ash on their head and like you see the people are doing lint
who are abstaining from this or that and
We see that on the outside is some kind of weird ritual
They're there
They're the ideas they love Jesus so much
They're there like trying to support and comfort the being all the way through the crucifixion
So when you see someone taking communion, it reminds me, dude, I remember I was in Varanasi,
India, basically Israel for the Hare Krishnas, in a Hare Krishna temple, watching the devotees
look at the deities.
They have deities.
And realizing like, oh, like whatever I'm seeing, that's not what they're seeing.
They're interacting with these deities.
To them, the deities are real.
Like they're real, beat gods.
Like they're in front of God right now.
They see God.
And you can see it in their face.
That's Christianity.
So when Jesus is being crucified, they're feeling it.
They're mourning.
They're freaking out.
They're grieving.
They're weeping.
Like they're in that moment.
That moment...
from that cosmological perspective,
was so powerful that it transcended time space.
Meaning right now, it's happening in this moment,
and that's what they're connecting to.
That's why when you see it as it is,
it's way different than probably what you thought it was.
It's hardcore.
I mean, it's fucking hardcore if you really go for it.
Yeah, and communion and Catholicism,
when they're doing communion,
you're actually supposed to be there in the Last Supper.
You're there.
Yes.
That's the way the priest describes it.
And you're not a bystander.
Like, you're in it way the priest describes it. And you're not a bystander. Like you're in it.
You're feeling it. They have found a way to plug in to this event and they are experiencing it
every year. And it's so hardcore. Like pull up Philip K. Dick talking about Jesus.
Okay. This is for, okay. Just cut to this. Guys, I'm sorry, we just spent the last two
days looking for this. I can't find the YouTube video I watched years ago when I was super
high. So we finally found something on Reddit. Thank God.
As for the theory we're living in 50 AD, Philip K. Dick discusses, I first heard about this
when I watched the movie Waking Life. If you haven't seen that movie, watch it. It's so good. The idea that we discussed is we're all living in 50 AD where Jesus Christ is
just out on the cross saving us, allowing us to have eternal lives if we choose to follow him,
but Satan is trying to get us to forget this with an illusion of time. In effect, time is just being
asked if you choose to follow him or not, and our life is just saying no, no, no until you say yes.
So,
what we're experiencing right now according to Philip K. Dick
is the matrix, a time loop, and
essentially like Jesus is being crucified in front of us right now. It's so overwhelmingly powerful
that we are hallucinating reality as it is.
And this hallucination, I guess,
is like the last fucking attempt by Satan
to like get you to deny, you know,
the divine manifestation of the Godhead in reality.
And so you think you're just having a normal mundane human life, but you're no different
from Jesus in the desert being tempted by Satan, Buddha being tempted by Mara.
You're no different.
You in fact are the enlightened one
Just on the precipice of your realization and this thing you call human existence is
Actually a test. It's a fucking test and
You're failing
Because you keep reincarnating. I found it. Ah
Yes I found it. Ah, yes!
Hell yeah, thank you, Josh. Novelist Philip K. Dill suggested that time on Earth
has stopped in the year 50 AD,
and he gives concrete reasons for his theory in his breath.
Keep playing it, fuck it, just play it.
Take an essay, how to build a universe
that doesn't fall apart two days later,
and I Hope I Shall
Arrive Soon.
In short, he believes that our world today is not taking place in the 21st century, and
we are deceived and live in a counterfeit reality lodged in a space-time pocket in 50
AD.
He writes,
My theory is this, time is not real.
Despite all the change we see, a specific permanent landscape underlies the world of
change, and this invisible underlying landscape is that of the Bible, it, specifically, is
the period immediately following the death and resurrection of Christ, it is, in other
words, the time period of the Book of Acts.
There is internal evidence, that
another reality, an unchanging one, exactly as Parmenides and Plato suspected,
underlies the visible phenomenal world of change, and we can cut through to it.
Thousands of years pass, but the world of the Bible is concealed beneath it,
still there and still real. To Dick, the Bible is a literally real but veiled landscape, never changing but usually
hidden from our sight.
Dick cites numerous coincidences in his life that plunged him back to the time period of
the Book of Acts.
His novels contained surprising fragments of the Bible that he had never read at the
time of his own writing.
When a young Christian woman wearing a shining
gold fish necklace appears at his doorway with medicine for his pain, it all becomes
clear to him. The synchronicities are too much. Although Dick realizes that modern scientists
would scoff at his seemingly insane assertions, he promotes his odd worldview as a useful
metaphor for the difficulties humans have when trying to comprehend reality.
Pre-Socratic Milesian Greek philosopher Heraclitus wrote,
The nature of things is in the habit of concealing itself.
Dick believes that the cosmos is not as it appears to be, and what it probably is, at
its deepest level, is exactly that which the human being is at his deepest level call it
mind or soul,
it is something unitary which lives and thinks, and only appears to be plural and material.
According to Dick, God and the universe were both that which thought, and the thing it thought, thinker and thought together.
The universe, then, is thinker and thought, and since we are part of it we as humans are in the final analysis
thoughts of and thinkers of those thoughts
Exactly perfectly said
Very clear easily understandable
Totally makes sense. I don't even need to explain it you you understand that I do too
makes sense. I don't even need to explain it. You understand that. I do too. Obvious. But that is Christianity. That's what, that's, they live in that zone. And you know, you'll never know that
if you don't like explore it with your own brain. Like if you explore it with like your brain,
the brain of, which is, by the way the way Anyone whenever I meet anyone who rolls their eyes at christianity?
I get it. It's like I know why you're rolling your eyes. I don't blame you. You saw copeland or you've god help you
You were raising a family that made you feel like you're going to hell for touching your dick
You know all kinds of abuse and stuff. It's like but
All of that is an encounter with, you know, abuse. That's an
encounter with abuse. That's an encounter with misarticulation of the Dharma. That's an encounter
with, you know, what appears to be, if you want to talk about our recurring pattern in the universe relative to the Krishna cosmology,
a distortion, an intentional distortion that warps something that's readily available to
anybody, which is the New Testament.
You just pick it up, read it.
It's in every fucking hotel.
And nothing is stopping you from doing that.
But there's some distortion field around it, which is what I find really curious. It's a very powerful distortion field
We are not compelled to look into it and except
When we are compelled to look into it, it's like it's coming from people like copeland
But then when you meet the actual christians
Which you know, i've been lucky enough to meet, they will
say things like, don't talk about it.
You don't need to tell someone you're Catholic or Christian or whatever.
You don't need to talk about it.
Let them ask you, why do you seem so happy?
And then you can talk about it.
But there isn't this beating someone over the fucking head with, like, you know,
sinfulness or something like that.
And also the articulation of sin, which even saying it, ugh, we all hate it because of
the way it was presented to us, which is usually to make you feel ashamed, right?
That's the way it was, you know, control mechanism used to make you feel ashamed.
And, you know, this is interesting
because one of my kids, very young,
has already figured out how powerful it is
to use religion to manipulate.
He just does it intuitively.
He's like, daddy, Jesus doesn't like it
that you're not giving me dessert.
You know what I mean?
Like, he already figured it out.
A lot of us experienced that which is like
You know if you want to control somebody tell them some invisible fucking figure is gonna like doesn't like what they're doing
Misinterpret a fucking book and then use that to control people and boom anyone who's encountered that it sucks
But the thing itself is very different from that
In fact, I would say the polar opposite of that and the conceptualization of sin is just karma.
It's a representation of the law of cause and effect.
You are a sentient being in the material universe.
You must make decisions.
Those decisions have a direct impact
on everyone around you, on everything,
whether it's a big or a little decision.
And because you're not perfect,
that impact is not gonna be positive.
There's always gonna be a fragment of selfishness,
confusion, something fucked up in it.
No matter how much you wanna help,
your bullshit's gonna get in there somehow a little bit.
I don't care who the fuck you are, it's gonna get in there.
And so that sin, that's original sin.
Original sin is like pointing out to a fish, they're wet.
As long as you're making ripples in time space,
you're going to create negative consequences.
And the fact that you believe there's a way to swim in time,
or I guess for a fish, it's like a fish
who thinks that you can swim around in the ocean
and not be wet.
So everyone's trying to be a dry fucking fish.
This is really weird to say it like that,
but of course you're gonna feel like an asshole
all the time if you have some stupid dream
that you can be perfect.
And then you start beating yourself up.
And that's why in the Christian cosmology,
Satan is called the accuser.
Because it's that part of you that accuses yourself
of being a piece of shit every day.
When really, you're just dealing with the nature
of being a sentient, limited, impermanent being,
contending with cause and effect.
That's sin.
You can't do it right.
There's no way.
No matter what you want to do, there's no way out.
You're going to fuck shit up.
So just give up trying to be perfect.
And then that's where you enter into the,
okay, then what am I supposed to do?
Surrender, baby.
You gotta reach out.
You can't do it on your own.
No one likes that.
That's the other thing people don't like.
I wanna do it on my own,
pull myself up by my fucking bootstraps.
And so people don't like that.
And I get it.
Because we live in a post-industrial revolution world, grind culture, you do it
all yourself.
And if you do ask for help, you're a pussy.
And you're a fucking, you know, needy codependent.
It's not that kind of asking for help.
It's more like if you're, God help you, maybe some of them will listen to my podcast.
If you're one of those people who's locked in,
you know, you're laying in the hospital bed,
I believe that the incredible Metallica song
was written about this situation.
You have some kind of spinal injury,
you're trapped in your fucking hospital bed.
You can't move a muscle.
People don't even know if you're in there.
You're thinking about pulling the fucking plug.
Maybe it's better if they do.
But that's, it's that kind of asking for help.
It's the twitch of the finger when you're in a hospital bed
indicating that there's something more there
than just a vegetable.
That's what it is.
It's like, you just need help. Like you need a doctor, you need someone to a vegetable. That's what it is. It's like, you just need help.
Like you need a doctor, you need someone to do something.
That's what it is.
That's the divine intercession based on the grim reality
of having sentience in time space.
Because a rock has no sin.
No one's ever looked at a rock.
A boulder rolls down a fucking hill,
smashes a fucking baby to jelly.
Nobody's like, that's an evil fucking boulder.
The boulder was just like,
over a period of a billion years,
finally some sand underneath the boulder displaced,
allowed the boulder to go plummeting down
into a fucking playground and smush a sweet little tot
to jam, baby, squished it down.
Sinless boulder.
Now, the boulder, somehow, could think
and look down and was like, dude,
I think I can smash that baby.
That's an evil fucking boulder.
Humans, we think, we can act. And so, yeah, there's baby. That's an evil fucking boulder. Humans, we think, we can act.
And so yeah, there's consequence.
That's Christianity.
That's sin.
It's karma.
It's cause and effect.
But you can't say sin.
It upsets people.
So you gotta say cause and effect.
Do you think we live in 50 AD?
Absolutely we do.
100%.
Well, I don't think, honestly, I mean, after that podcast with Mitch Horowitz,
I've been thinking a lot, I will wrap it up on this, I've already rambled too long, but you can cut that
two days that we look for the Philip K. Dick bullshit.
Yeah, cut it back some.
That'll make it a six minute podcast.
So, Horowitz, you guys should watch the Mitch Horowitz episode if you haven't watched it.
Horowitz is talking about a study where apparently people were invited to take a test, memorize
a bunch of words, obviously not in that order, memorize a bunch of words, take a test, they
scored the test. Randomly selected a group of people
who had already taken the test
and invited them to continue studying for the test.
Those who continued studying for the test
scored higher on the test,
implying time isn't the way we think it is.
The time is actually not, it's not time's arrow.
Maybe it's all happening at once.
Or maybe it's a lot of different parallel universes
happening simultaneously and via
decision you connect to specific frames in various parallel universes, which produces a sense of
identity, self, change. Meaning that, and this is what I'm really interested in, because I've been
thinking about it a lot, and I've been thinking about it a lot.
And I've been doing something since actually
that conversation was just gonna sound
completely batshit crazy.
But just playing around with that concept,
because I remember reading something in Chaos Magic
about how you could actually send good energy
to past versions of yourself. So you could actually send good energy
to past versions of yourself. And you could reach out to future versions of yourself
that you wanna be and make direct connections
with those future versions of yourself
to get information, help, comfort.
It reminded me, you were telling me some memory trick
that people do, it was at a cool name
where you sort of notice particular moments,
what's that called?
What's that called, do you remember?
Being present, being, practicing gratitude?
No, well that too, but there's a way
where you just sort of remind yourself to be in the moment
and then if you do that regularly,
you don't have that fuzzy sense of time going by too fast.
Yeah, where you're taking a, I'm enjoying this hot shower because a hundred years ago,
even kings, whatever didn't have these hot showers.
So you're picking out these moments from a general kind of blurry fuzz of many, many
moments and it solidifies your reality.
Jacking off in the shower, yeah.
Jacking off your friends in the shower.
And so then, instead of just doing that, this sounds nuts. And
I mean, at the very least, it'll get you into the moment. But if, like right now, you could
do it right now, it sounds so nuts. Right now, send good vibes back to yourself 10 seconds
ago. Just try it. I know it sounds nuts.
Done.
Done.
Right?
And now, feel it.
Right now, from some point in the future, you're sending good vibes to yourself right
now.
And now do that.
You see, you start making these bizarre connections, not just to the present moment, but to future
versions of you and past versions of you.
And it's weird, but it's really interesting
because like if this shit is true,
Philip K. Dick's maniac sodium pentothal vision is true,
or if Horowitz's study is true,
or if what the Google people are saying
about their supercomputers is true,
time doesn't
work the way we think it is.
It's not past, present, future.
All happening at once.
That means there are onion skin layers of reality all around us that we call the future
or the past.
Meaning the past isn't gone at all.
It's still there.
Right now.
And you can connect with it and the future all possible
timelines right now and you could connect with them theoretically. Meaning that when people
have been talking and ear beating you about goals, you need a goal. It sounds so boring, the goal. Work towards your goal.
What that is is the sort of beginning realization of actually you're not working towards your
goal.
You're literally connecting to that moment in the future where you've achieved the goal
and pulling that moment into the present, which is drawing you into that reality.
It's a whole different way of doing things.
Time is always, it's always the present because God gives you free will, but he knows what
you're going to do, right?
How is that possible?
Yeah.
That's because to humans, we see time linear, right?
But to God, everything happens at once.
Right.
So every decision you ever made in your life, you already made it.
Right.
So now your free will is just feel how you want to feel
about your emotions.
From that perspective, from a hyperdimensional perspective,
time is complete, like all the miracles, synchronicities,
from an outside of time perspective,
would not seem like synchronicities or miracles at all.
They would just seem as normal as the fucking wind blowing
the leaves in a tree.
Because we can't see that, it seems insane.
How could that happen at the exact same time?
I was just thinking of them and they called me
and then the thing, well, it's yeah,
because you are stuck in time.
You're bobbing down the river fucking time.
You're stuck in it and there's no way
for you to see past it.
So that opens up the realm of magic, miracles.
I'm teaching my kids magic.
It's so fun.
Teaching them how to like distract, to like do the thing, grab someone's attention, pull
it over here, and then do something over here.
Well, that's a function of the universe, except the distraction is just what we call manifested
reality.
There's all this shit we can't see.
But yet there appears to be a pattern.
That pattern shows up in the miracles and the synchronicities and such.
And so-
If you're in tune to it.
If you're in tune to it, exactly.
And so if you have subscribed to Time's Arrow,
the past is gone, the future ain't here yet,
there's just the present, I certainly have.
If you're wrong about that,
then it's basically like cutting yourself off from like
appendages that you can't see. You have all these extra arms and tentacles that are
stretching out into all points in the future, in the past, and you're not using any of them.
You're just using this appendage that looks like your body. You're not using any of the other stuff.
You're in survival mode. You're in survival mode.
And so, playing around with all these bizarre
new ways of conceptualizing time is so fun,
even if it's not real.
I mean, who knows?
It is a simulation because I told my parents,
hey, they're super Catholic,
and I go, well, what happens when you die?
They go, you go to heaven or you go to hell.
I go, okay, that's probably base reality then, right?
They're like, what?
I was like, what is this then?
If that is the end, that means that's,
there's no more time after that.
That's base reality.
That means this has to be a simulation.
Right, this is just some kind of dream
happening within that realm.
Yeah, that's good, base reality, sure.
I mean, yeah, yeah, if that's outside of time, right?
Yeah, and and then so then sort of you start thinking about like
well
We know there's history. There was a past something did happen
But it's crazy to imagine history is happening right now like all the stuff World War two World War one Hiroshima
future apocalypses, all of it happening simultaneously.
And you, in the same way right now, your eyes can only see certain light, spectrums of light,
you have been dialed in to this slice of time space.
It's all you can see or experience it,
but all the other ones are happening at the same time.
So the question is, can you connect
with alternate timelines, temporal timelines?
And that's what Horowitz is talking about,
spooky action at a distance, quantum entanglement.
Quantum entanglement flies in the fucking face
of everything we understand about how fast things can go.
Because something in the past
instantaneously connects to something in the future, infinite,
light years away theoretically. And time and space are the same goddamn thing, right? They're intertwined.
So that means that you for if you're not
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