Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 680: Solooooooooooooo
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Welcome! Welcome! philanthropist, billionaire, and also I have my fingers deep in the federal government.
That's right, I'm controlling the federal government.
For those of you who know the podcast, you should be excited to hear that I finally got
full control over the federal government, which is fucking incredible.
We're going to be doing some tariffs today.
I'm going to get that out of the way.
I want to start off with the business of tariffs.
It seems like a lot of people out there are financially illiterate and have no understanding
about the power of tariffs, how good they are.
It's the greatest thing ever.
And how's the stock market looking, Josh?
Can you pull it up?
Oh, sure.
It's not going very well. What? No, no it up? Sure, it's not going very well.
No, no, no, no, no, no, don't say that.
Don't get all fucking snowflaked out on me.
Don't cuck out on me here.
Let's take a look here.
Bam!
Look at that.
Yeah baby, we're already up 2000 points.
Pull up Ford stock. nobody saw that coming i'm such a dumb ass
917 see that i was gonna buy ford i would have i'm a dumb ass i knew it you know i'm a listen i
know a lot of you guys come here for my financial advice and And I wanna, here's the thing,
and this is why I feel so stupid.
And I don't know, once I got into day trading,
I got into day trading,
because I started going on WallStreetBets on Reddit,
and I got entranced by it.
It was such a funny culture at the
time. I haven't been on there in a while, but this was in the age of AMC of GameStop.
They figured out some way to figure out people who were shorting stock and essentially drive
the stock up and it worked. And a lot of people got fucking rich. What was that guy's name?
Do you remember his name?
It's Roaring Kitty, I know it's his Twitter name.
Roaring Kitty.
So this genius figures out some method of identifying
where people were short selling stocks
and then knowing that a way to like fuck those people over the hedge fund people
and simultaneously just get redditors richer than god. People were making so much money and so
I'd had my eye on this and I had I don't know like five grand in an account. And they were all, what was the, they would say,
it's going to the moon.
And so I think it was AMC, I can't remember which.
I don't remember if it was AMC or GameStop,
but I just put all that money into the stock
that Wall Street pets was saying you should put money into,
fully just thinking like, this is like idiot.
I'm an idiot
I will not tell my wife that i'm doing this
It's gambling. I I recognize that's what it was
and
Because they were saying like tomorrow it's gonna happen tomorrow. So I did it and the next day it actually fucking happened
It was the craziest thing to watch
The value of that stock go up so high that they had
to freeze it. They froze it for a second because it's so anomalous. And in like a matter of,
I don't know, five hours, I think I made like $12,000. It just shot up. And in that moment I witnessed the the power of
Wealth like if that like all these insiders all these people with their fingers on the pulse of everything
Once you get to a certain amount of money, you can't you just stay rich you just and also like
We we have an assumption
The assumption is I don't know if you guys have that assumption. I certainly do. I come from a different time.
I don't know. I'm gonna run the stats right now.
Yeah, a lot of youngs in the YouTube chat right now.
When I was coming up,
we didn't have the internet like you do. We weren't able to get data streams that were immediately memory-holed if they were too
controversial.
The data streams that we got were like ABC News, Dan Rather, that's it.
So I didn't know the shit you guys know.
And there was a general assumption that if somebody was a millionaire, in those days
it meant something to be a millionaire.
If somebody was a millionaire, that meant they were smart.
If someone's a billionaire, they must be fucking Einstein level geniuses.
This is an assumption a lot of people make.
But as it turns out, at least with my brief encounter with making money
off of the stock market, you just, someone needs to tell you, you just need a lot of
money and then you dump it into something and it goes up a few percentage points and
you take it out. You get an AI to do that for you long enough, you just have infinite
income, you pour it into higher high yield savings accounts. I don't know. And that's it.
You just sink your money wherever
and you just get money back.
So it's like a video game.
Once you get past a certain level,
it's an infinite money loop.
You can't fuck it up.
It's hard to fuck it up.
There's a whole movie about that,
Brewster's Millions.
Remember that movie with Richard Pryor?
Where he has to be like the little boy's friend?
Is that the way he's called?
No, no.
Someone needs to remake that though.
No, that was called The Toy.
Yeah.
There's no way you're gonna make that again.
That's never coming back.
Yeah, with Kevin Hart.
Dude, I mean, like,
you could probably pull it off with like a robot,
but I mean, that was like one of those movies
that's just like pure unapologetic racism, right?
That's all that was.
Basically, it's just Richard Pryor's as a slave.
Yes.
It's a celebration of kind of comic slave
that somebody got for his kid,
but it's got Richard Pryor's, it's still funny,
because Richard Pryor is the greatest
ever.
Anyway, my point here is, friends, I fucked up because here's...
And go ahead, I'm going to look at the comments here.
Go ahead and shoot me down because I am a financial idiot, certified financial idiot.
I'm a comedian. I'm a comedian.
I'm a podcaster.
I don't like thinking about this stuff.
I prefer to think about so many other things than this.
And yet when it grabs my mind, and also don't get me in front of a slot machine, don't get
me in front of a slot machine because all my money will go away.
And so that's my disclosure here. Jesus
Christ don't listen to me. But just as we've all been watching the chaos that's ensued since Trump
put these tariffs down and everyone's shitting their pants, everyone's freaking out.
I was just thinking, look, if he crashes the economy and it stays crashed to the midterms,
then the Republicans will lose all their power.
And they're not going to give that up, meaning that he's not going to let that happen.
Meaning that he's just destabilizing the market
for some reason, just to see what happens.
Maybe in the way that I fuck up shit
if I'm playing a Sims game.
Maybe in the way, you know what I mean,
or you're playing Grand Theft Auto
and you're like, I just wanna see what happens
with how many cops I can run over,
how many pedestrians I can beat to death before I get arrested. Maybe he's doing that. I don't know but I knew
That for sure it would bounce back. He's gonna like say some
something about how like there was a capitulation by this country or that and
Then as an excuse to lift the tariffs, you know, he's like also he's fucking golfing
That's not something somebody does who's freaking out
so and
He's like sending out weird signals like the strong will survive or whatever which was basically saying like I'm gonna lift these you dumb bucks
So so buy your stocks on a discount
Now cuz it's gonna go back up.
And so there was this brief window where I just knew it.
I'm looking at the stocks.
I'm thinking, I don't know anything about stocks.
I'm looking at Apple, down 5%.
Oh, I don't know, just buy a bunch of Apple shares,
but they're so expensive.
And then also I'm playing this awesome game on my iPad where you play a fisherman
In some kind of like haunted
Part of the world that's based on HP Lovecraft
Yeah, then of course Trump known for his ability to
They're calling us up kissing my ass
Trump mocks world leaders is 104 percent tariffs on China
It's so
It's funny, man. I mean it's not but it is but it's anyway
Now it's back up
But it'll go back down again
It'll go back down again.
It'll go back down again. Like it's, he's fluctuating the market.
He's like, some people were saying he's doing it
because he wants interest rates to drop or something.
If he's pissed at Jerome Powell.
So he's just like, all right, fuck you.
I'll just like announce bizarre tariffs
over and over and over again
until you have to drop interest rates or something.
Driving people into treasuries,
I don't even know what that means.
Read that on Reddit. I have no idea what that means.
But the good news is using in channels that I have using vectors of power and I just finished
reading Kurt Henley's vectors of power, which is a seven step system which will give you access
to basically the entire federal government. I thought it wouldn't work.
But by the time I got through the third vector of power,
I was completely in control of the FDA.
And a lot of people don't realize how easy it is to get control of these government agencies.
Like, it is easy.
And people were calling my house to talk to me about prescription medications that were in clinical trials.
I just said yes to all of them.
And so we're going to get a lot of new meds.
And now I have gained full control.
And I'm actually gonna probably release it
in a couple of days.
I'm not enjoying the power, it does corrupt.
It does corrupt, I am corrupted.
Like it's crazy, because you watch Lord of the Rings
and you think that would never happen to me
if I had that beautiful golden ring,
that sweet, beautiful golden ring
that would hug your finger and feel so good,
like being hugged by all the mothers in the world at once.
That sweet beautiful ring. And I yeah, I just I watched that but I could wear that fucking ring.
I won't get corrupted by power. But I was instantly corrupted by power. It was insane what happened.
I ordered an airstrike on one of my neighbors. And I like him. I like him. I just couldn't believe
that that was something you can do, which when you have full control of the federal government,
you have access to this really cool,
they made it look like a video game, which is awesome,
because, you know, I don't wanna watch people
get literally blown up.
And so they have this whole new console
where when you drop bombs on people,
or when bombs that you've given other countries are dropped on people
It doesn't even look like people
It's adorable. It's these cute little like emojis that look like angels flying up into heaven and then like numbers down below
And you don't feel as bad
You don't there's a way they say that there's drone operators now who don't even know they're blowing up people
They think they're just playing this cool game. A lot of kids are doing that. Apparently, like once you get to a certain level of call of duty,
you are actually controlling robot soldiers and you don't even know it,
which is so cool.
And that's some of the beautiful things that our money is going towards,
which is great. So this is why I'm pro-terror.
So I'm going to make some announcements.
I'm going to sign this. This is why I'm pro-tariff. So I'm gonna make some announcements. I'm gonna sign this. This is executive order book.
And I'm looking at the chat right now.
Any of you guys who want to add anything right now,
actually I'm gonna give a few seconds here
to if you have any tariffs that you want me to implement.
What is blue socks? What the fuck is is that do you know what that is no I look it up
I have a feeling we're about to see old men sucking no just blue socks no look
up consumers look up what does it mean like the lasers can't blow up your feet
if you're wearing blue socks.
The dating apps use of blue socks
as a subtle signal for singles to recognize each other
and a fancy, this is terrible.
Whoever said this, you're banned.
You're banned, ban yourself.
Whoever suggested blue socks, you are banned.
You have to ban- self-ban.
Is it that they're ugly? Someone help me out here.
What's the blue socks thing? I'm usually on top of shit.
You're freaking me out.
The pain dog, you're banned.
Don't post anything else.
Oh, it's a joke from chat. Well, I don't think it's funny.
I'm offended.
It was a dream.
I'm just as confused as you are.
Okay, give me your tariffs.
Let's go.
Come on.
Dead and Company, done. We're gonna do a hundred and eighty percent tariff on Dead and Company.
Brilliant suggestion.
Somebody suggested grilled cheese as well.
You want to, well, what do we, do they want us to tariff grilled cheese?
Mm-hmm. Specifically when you grill it.
Oh, you know, they're saying, because that's what they sell at Dead and Company.
So yeah, we're gonna do a 500% tariff on any
On I don't know on bread and cheese
Mr. Beef's mr. Beast tariff him
Yeah, okay
300% tariff on mr. Beast
Okay done and
Done here if I'm mr. Beast
We'll figure out what ingredients go into his chocolate,
where he's sourcing it from,
and then we'll tariff the shit out of that.
Okay, done.
Anything else?
Crow milk.
I'm not tariffing that, I love crow milk.
It's good for you too.
Crappy weed?
Ah, this is good.
Legalized recreational plutonium, absolutely.
I'm so sick of these,
listen, we live in a culture that celebrates weakness when I was a kid
My favorite toy was a plutonium he-man. It was so fun glows in the dark
Weighed, I don't know 90 pounds, but it was the size of a regular he-man. You got muscular
strong 90 pounds, but it was the size of a regular he man it you got muscular strong
Yeah, some of your fucking hair fell out who cared it looked awesome
Everybody knew who had the plutonium E man by he was losing their hair it came back
You know, yeah, did I get testicular cancer? I don't think it was connected
but that that was what it used to be like before
But that was what it used to be like before our country was taken over by weak people. You could play with plutonium.
Plutonium blocks.
You could play with all kinds of radioactive materials.
We would detonate like small nuclear bombs in our backyard.
It was so fun.
There's a way to control it.
They don't tell you that.
And a little nuke is beautiful to watch. It looks
like a flash bulb. The grass blows back. It leaves this cool circular imprint in your
yard. Nothing grows there anymore. So it's like you could do little designs in the deadened
soil. And that was what America used to be. And it's all gone down the tube. So yeah,
we're taking all regulations off plutonium.
I'll have that shit in CVS by next week.
All regulations off plutonium.
Okay, what else?
Revmaster666 wants to put tariffs on government inside trading.
You're banned, Rev. Master 666.
Now listen, that kind of thing makes me want to vomit.
The idea that you want our elected officials
to not be able to take part in the American pastime
of buying and selling stocks.
If George Washington was here,
he fucking yanked those slave teeth out of his mouth
and throw them at your ass.
Our country was not designed so that our politicians
couldn't make money from their power.
Do you not understand that?
Do you not know that America is an occult
alchemical machine designed to siphon energy
from the people?
What do you think this is, man?
Come on, wake up, you're banned.
Don't post for two minutes.
Tareff old people and tap water.
You know, I feel like God has already tariffed old people. I don't think we need to do that.
The age is a tariff from God. Tap water, I think, yeah, if we start charging people more for water,
we could probably get out of the national.
Now that's genius. And this is why I like to use YouTube comments to help me figure out what to do
with the federal government. And I wish more elected officials were doing that. Because,
yeah, let's connect the dots here. What do we all have in common?
We like water. We have to drink water. We all share that in common.
And what do we also have in common?
We live in the United States.
And well, I don't know, maybe some of you don't.
You should come here, it's wonderful.
Very easy to get over here these days.
And then the other thing we all have in common is
Mouths probably I don't know does everyone have a mouth. I'm not everybody
The point is I think you're right. Let's start charge figure out a way to quantify like a glass of water
Let's charge $10 per glass of water for the next year. And yeah tax water water tax
simple done water tax water tax we'll work out
the details later but yeah that's really good that's really good we're gonna make a lot of money
200 tariffs on soft things like marshmallows and down pillows interesting i think it would be better
if we harden soft things don't you just a general hardening tariff
So we so soft things are hardened by 10%
Yeah hardening tariff we're gonna harden soft things
By 10% somebody's coming after you. They said tariff beards you mother fucker band don't pose for five
minutes do not pose for five minutes all right let's see I'm looking here I'm
looking here Ethan burger wants a rant on magic maybe that's a good tariff
9,000% tariff on non-americanarts. Oh, no way. You're not going to steal the one pleasure I have left in my life.
I love the smell of a good European fart. I have them sent in. It's honestly the one thing about
Trump's tariffs that I'm upset about is my European fart delivery service. I already said it's going to
cost 100% more.
And it's basically it's a wonderful service, by the way.
Check it out.
Farts of the world dot com. And if you use Afro code Duncan, you'll get 20% off your first month
of bottled global farts.
And I love it for a lot of different reasons.
Number one, I'm a fart man.
I love the smell of a good fart.
I love the waft of a good juicy fart. My own farts and others. Airplane farts in particular.
My god, I love that. That smell of that post takeoff fart as somebody finally relaxes.
They've been stressed out in the airport. Getting through TSA sucks. They get on the
plane. They're afraid to fly and then right when the plane
hits
cruising altitude they finally can relax enough to release all of those
Bagels the morning bagel, you know that they ate the
The the oiled pretzel or whatever they ate, and they just release it into the plane
as a sort of signifier, we're safe.
And then in response, almost like call and response farts
is other people smelling that fart,
or like, oh, we must be safe.
I smell a morning airplane fart,
so that means we're safe again.
And then it's the best, and the plane fills up
with the oily stink of travelers,
people headed on vacation, people headed to work. It's the smell of America and it's a good smell.
But most of you know I'm the top proponent of globalism in the world right now. I think
that nothing could be better than a one world government and a one world leader.
And that this whole thing where individual countries
have laws that differ from other countries,
it just seems batshit to me.
Let's have a singular set of laws
that all countries must adhere to, abide by.
But I realized because of my life as a father, I don't travel internationally as much as
I used to.
I used to go to all the greatest European fart cafes.
I used to go to God in Istanbul, Jesus Christ live
It basically means the brown cloud. I don't I don't even know what language they speak. I would just travel and just drink
I didn't really try to
Connect in that way. We didn't have the tech back then or I would have but ah
Man that smell that smell, you know, it's a smell of the future
it's a smell of a
Planetary civilization You know, it's a smell of the future. It's a smell of a planetary civilization shaking off the antiquated chains of culture, ideology,
most importantly, national identification,
and joining together.
And this is how you can really understand the world,
is just enjoying, and it is an enjoyment and a privilege,
enjoying the farts of those from other countries. So next month I was supposed to get an entire collection of Libyan farts and got an email saying that because of tariffs,
I would have to like, my subscription fee was going to go up 100%.
I did it. I didn't like doing it but
anyway, if you want to join and participate in the global community of people who adore the stink of
juicy old farts then
farts of the world comm Africa Duncan you'll get 10%
I don't remember the discount they'll say it on there
but definitely you live and also they bottle them in just decorative bottles that are beautiful and based on whatever the particular
The shape of the country
Okay, so now let me go through some of mine and then we're gonna move on
From this moment forward, trees are now called American greenies. So we're not going to do the thing. Nothing worse than being with a
tree person who can tell you what, that's an oak, a tree nerd. That's an oak. That's
a redwood. Who cares?
It's a tree.
And it's an American tree.
So we're going to call them American greenies now.
Across the board.
There will, we will no longer teach in woke universities the names of different trees.
It's just American greenies.
They're a tree. Don't call it that. Call just American greenies. They're a tree.
Don't call it that, call it a greenie.
Let's head, let's move ahead.
We're not going back.
It's American greenies.
This is a really important one.
And I want you to know, I thought a long time about this
one, it's gonna be controversial.
Bros are now officially before Hoes. This is now an American policy.
Now the Bro before Ho ethical system has its roots in Plato who coined the term. But this,
we've gone back and forth on this throughout the ages.
And sometimes hoes have been before bros.
And I did a comprehensive, comprehensive study
on those time periods where hoes were before bros.
And what do they all have in common?
Plagues, every single one, plagues.
Black plagues started when they started putting
hoes before bros. Smallpox. That was the time of hoes before bros. So I've contacted the
CDC to make sure that my findings were accurate. And they told me it doesn't sound scientific
at all, which brings me to the next executive order. there is no more CDC.
I am eliminating the CDC.
I don't need pushback from these fucking nerds
and their lab coats.
I'm sick of it.
Honestly, they were quite polite about it
and they seemed like they wanted to walk me through
some kind of scientific bullshit like how studies work
and you can't really, there's no way to establish that
and what's your, what's your
definition of a ho blah blah blah. So no more CDC. Look, it's like sometimes my wife will watch the
weather to find out what the weather is outside. You just go outside, Look up. Is it cloudy? It's probably gonna rain. Is it cold?
Wear a jacket. Similarly, I know when I'm getting sick. You know when you're getting sick. Do we
really need this massive government agency sucking taxpayer dollars to tell you you don't feel good. No, so CDC gone
um
This is more of a personal one
Some of you may not be familiar with this comedian, but i'm not going to go into details is why but i'm putting
120 tariff on the family of comedian
Brendan walsh also known as the bee man. He is tariffed
Brendan Walsh, also known as the B-Man. He is tariffed.
I'm tariffing his family.
And if you guys go on, don't harass him online.
But feel free to let him know
that you're happy about the tariff
and let him know that if he does
any kind of tariff pushback,
then I'll go up as far as he goes up
and we'll see who wins this game of chicken.
He's done.
Okay, this is really an important one and I mean this it is now
Illegal to talk about white lotus on early morning flights
Can't do it if you do do it. You will be deported to that Venezuelan prison
So if you are, you know, I don't care what it is, you just got your
ozempic shot, you're yappy, you've had a bunch of Starbucks, you're on the plane, it's 6 a.m. and somehow you and your girlfriend want to fucking talk so loudly about White Lotus,
you will go to Venezuela, you will, we will build a women's prison there.
You'll just shave your head
and no one will be able to tell.
Put some face tattoos on your ass
and throw you in a fucking pen.
Because I can't stand it.
It's, it is beyond evil.
People are trying to sleep.
We're tired.
We haven't taken our Adderall yet, whatever it is, we have headaches, and you're just blaring about white lotus.
And I have to say this to those of you who've been doing that, and if it offends you, fuck
off.
It's not just that you're obsessing over it on an early morning flight.
It's that it seems like you think that you are sophisticated because you are talking about White Lotus.
I'm not saying it's not a good show, but let's face it, it's Fantasy Island.
It's an old reference. Look it up.
And the creator said the same thing. It's just Fantasy Island.
And the lessons you're learning from White Lotus,
come on, this isn't exactly cutting edge material here. Money is bad sometimes. So
don't talk about it on morning flights or anywhere. I am willing to extend this executive order to, like, maybe I'll leave an hour, like between 8 and 9 p.m. You could talk about White Lotus.
Maybe I'll leave an hour like between 8 and 9 p.m. You could talk about white lotus
180% tariff on dead and company no problem consider it done
Yeah, and don't talk about dead and company anymore stop
We're gonna tear up mr. Beast
Water tax and we're gonna tear up Mr. Beast, water tax,
and we're gonna make harder things, no, softer things harder.
It would be nice to make harder things soft.
That's interesting.
Do we make harder things softer or softer things harder?
This is, I'm gonna have to think about this.
What do you think, Josh?
I think most of society is trying
to make softer things harder.
That's why you see a lot of pills out there right now.
So it might be easier to go that way.
Well, what about just softer pills?
Wouldn't softer pills make you softer?
It depends on the pill.
What if it's like Viagra?
Liquid Viagra might pop your penis.
Right.
So you could take a soft Viagra and you would get harder.
And that's an incredible, if you're out there and you represent blue chew or whatever.
But then do you get tariffed on your penis?
You know, I've been thinking about this a lot,
about tariffing cocks.
And, you know, lots of discussion has come up
regarding the penis tariff that's been proposed
by a lot of people.
But I think men have it hard enough.
We don't need to make it harder on men.
And, you know, this, of course,
this I think will be viewed, you know, by certain people as offensive, but...
And having witnessed birth three times now in my life...
I guess I'm just gonna say it, and maybe you're not supposed to,
but ladies, we know you're faking it.
You know, did you see that? Have you ever seen, you've seen birth?
Yes, three times.
You know, did you see that? Have you ever seen, you've seen birth? Yes, three times.
They yell, they scream, they huff and puff.
And as a man, you know that the pain you experience every day is what, probably 50 times more than a woman giving birth, at least.
I think they've done that research. Like in any moment the average man experiences 50 times the pain of a woman
giving birth. And so I do recognize why the penis tariff could raise money for the federal government.
I think it's already hard enough for dudes in this country. I mean we don't, you know, when I'm in
pain, I just express the amount of pain I'm in. But whenever you see a woman emoting pain,
they say that she's faking like 70% of that pain
compared to a man.
I mean, just look it up.
It's, this is, this is in textbooks now.
We know this, but, and you're not,
I guess these days you're not supposed to say things
like that out loud,
because people don't wanna hear the truth. And this is why they wanna censor the internet. But they're not I guess these days you're not supposed to say things like that out loud Because people don't want to hear the truth and this is why they want to censor the internet
But they're not going to be able to
uh anymore
I'm signing this it is now official
This is exactly what you guys wanted
And there it is
Now let's move on to more important things friends. This is super important.
Let me find this.
I can pull it up.
Don't pull this up yet, Josh.
Let me see here.
This is crazy.
And I'd love to know what you guys think about this. As you know,
I keep my eyes on the UFO stuff. Yeah, pull this baby Josh for those of you list look at that
So, you know, I love
The Mars probe
NASA channel you can watch
like as it's basically developing pictures and people just stay on top of this shit and they watch it and
Every once in a while weird stuff pops up now. I don't know if this is true because I didn't look it up, but apparently NASA
Deleted that picture shit my thing turned off here. Hold on
Tell you when to put it up. Okay. Yeah, put it back up
Look at that thing.
Now, you know, of course, right away,
debunkers see stuff like this,
and people are saying that that is a rock.
But look at the, you could see the light
being reflected off of it.
Look at that.
You could see the sun being reflected off of it.
And what the fuck are these things?
More importantly, why are they zipping around Mars?
I just, okay, you take it off.
Pull up, wait, I'll pull it up.
So I just got this book.
This is really crazy.
I had him on the podcast a long time ago.
I should have him back on.
Pull this up.
Let me pull this up. This is Avi Loeb, and he's an astrophysicist.
Now what's interesting about him, he's from Harvard, and what's interesting about him
is that he is completely vocal about his belief that Earth is being monitored or visited by extraterrestrials,
which is obviously these days not exactly groundbreaking,
but for someone who is like a professor at Harvard,
that's not what you hear them say very often.
They're worried about their careers, funding.
He's written some books on the matter.
He's got a new book out that I just started reading.
It's fucking great. He's written some books on the matter. He's got a new book out that I just started reading.
It's fucking great.
But this book talks about how Uma Muma,
which was, I'll pull this up.
For those of you out there who remember this,
it's really weird.
We got from outside, here, I'll pull it up.
Uma Muma is the first confirmed interstellar object
detected passing through the solar system,
formerly designated 1-1-2-0-1-7-U-I,
it was discovered, blah, blah, blah.
Umamuma is a small object estimated to be
between 100 and 1,000 meters long,
with its width and thickness both estimated
between 35 and 167 meters.
It has a red color.
It has a rotation similar to the solar system's asteroids.
But anyway, what's interesting about Ooma Mooma
is that, let's see if we can find it on here.
Oh, there it is check this out
So umamuma its trajectory was non-standard umamuma
Seems to have used the Sun to accelerate itself
It just braked basically and they say at least in
Avi Loeb's book he was saying that
compared to other interstellar objects
it was seemingly controlling its speed
and then the fact that it used this Sun
slingshot thing which is something we
use to get probes and satellites into
deep space. This is insane. And so a lot of people speculate that Uma Muma
was like the beginning of these fucking tic tacs.
That Uma Muma shoots by earth,
detects some kind of intelligent life,
maybe lays a bunch of tic tac tac eggs.
And these things are, this was like the first probe
from some other civilization that just probably zips through galaxies trying to see if anything
out there is worth checking out.
And now we are under observation, which is what those tic-tacs are.
Whether it's true or not, I don't know.
But look up that Martian tic-tac and that is not a rock
Also, I don't know for sure but if NASA deleted it
That makes me believe it even more
Is that the one they're saying is Nibiru or is that something different? Nibiru
so Nibiru
No, that's not Nibiru because Nibiru so basically the idea behind Nibiru, so Nibiru, no that's not Nibiru because Nibiru, so basically the idea behind Nibiru
is there's some Sumerian mythology. In the Sumerian mythology there's another planet, what is it? 10th,
12th, they didn't know how many planets. We've already decided there's more planets than what
the Sumerians thought. But basically, there's a planet that at a predictable
amount of time comes close to Earth and these like advanced beings called the Anunnaki visit
from this planet. Their Anunnaki were the our creator beings. They're the ones that
fucked up chimpanzee DNA, your primate DNA.
So they did some kind of genetic enhancement on primates,
making them gold hungry, because they use gold for their spaceships, basically.
And atmosphere.
Their atmosphere, exactly, it's the atmosphere, right?
So that's why we love gold so much.
We love gold because something in our DNA
has been implanted by these aliens
that thought it would be easier
to genetically modify primates to harvest gold
than just to make robots,
which is a little suspicious if you think about that.
Like really, what would be easier?
Just make some robots if you're so advanced
that you could genetically modify chimpanzees. But who am I to judge? I'm not an Anunnaki. So anyway, apparently there is
a way to detect in space some giant object out there. We know this from gravitational waves.
So like in the, in deep space at the perimeter of our galaxy, they think there's a hidden secret planet
Just like the Sumerians said its floats out there and maybe it's on a trajectory
Where if it gets too close to earth it would throw off the gravitational
It would fuck up the spin of earth or something causing the
predictable
apocalypses that supposedly the elite know about.
They know it comes every 11,000, 15,000 years and that there's no way to stop it.
And maybe before that happens they send their probes or whatever to check us out, see if there's
anything worth saving and then they fuck up the planet hit reset
Let it grow again. Maybe that's a form of gardening
I don't know if anyone ever if people are talking about this or not, but you know
Human intelligence is
Theoretically incredibly limited so we think about things based on our
Lifespan everything's based on the way we frame time we
In the way we frame time is meaningless other than neurologically
we just process the flow of time in in a certain way which gives us a sense of like
How long an hour is how long a year is now?
This is a completely subjective experience. Everybody knows that
sometimes time goes by fast, sometimes time goes by slow. Some people think that as we
approach singularity, have you ever heard this before Josh? As we approach the singularity,
time is actually speeding up. So, the, you know, one of the many things that's annoying
that old people will say is that it feels like time
is going by faster, and there's a lot of explanations
for why this is, but the woo-woo explanation
for why this is is because time is actually going by faster,
that as we approach this future event,
known as the singularity, the passing of Nuburu,
the Christian apocalypse, whatever the fuck it is, the closer we get to it, it's such a powerful event that it is pulling us into it, like
some kind of invisible, temporal black hole.
And so the closer we get to it, the faster time speeds up.
The faster time speeds up, the more technology speeds up.
We think that Moore's law is the reason technology is speeding up, but no.
What's happening is a direct effect of accelerating entropy.
We're looking at what we call technological innovations, technological breakthroughs,
but really this is all a result of getting sucked into whatever this event is that is coming.
So a lot of people think that the experience of time speeding up is real.
And you know, when I was a kid, a summer would last at least like what I would consider to
be two years now.
Like summers went on forever and ever and ever.
Now years go by like that, which is really spooky to think about.
I wouldn't invite you to think about this,
but if you've been experiencing this strange sense
that days are going by faster, years are going by faster,
months are going by faster,
and you've been banking on your lifespan,
well, your lifespan, if it's 70 years, that's great
If each year feels consistently like a year
But if your lifespan 70 years in the last 30 years be like days
Then your lifespan is actually
40 days 40 years 30 days if you're like past, you've got like maybe a month left to live.
You know what I mean?
I mean, it is all about like, how does it,
this is what, when I had Brian Johnson on the podcast,
there was a question I forgot to ask him,
and I wish I had.
Cause I was thinking, okay, life extension, great.
We can make the body vehicle last longer.
I think that could be good.
At least the option would be great.
And that seems to be what he was pointing towards.
It's like you at least want the option, right?
And who would say no to that?
Probably not many people, especially if it's a healthy body
that you're extending the life of.
But I was thinking like, doesn't it also make sense
if we could slow down the way we experience time? Isn't that the same thing as
Extending the lifespan in other words if instead of experiencing every year
Like a year or as I experience every year kind of like a month, maybe two months
If we could slow down the perception of time so that it every year felt like a hundred years
what's the diff that sounds like torture because when time goes by slowly when you're doing
something you really don't want to do you know so you speed it up speed it up that it's it's
orgasms all day well i mean look you want to slow your orgasms down.
I sure as fuck do.
I don't think anyone in my family,
my wife wouldn't complain, but like a dial basically,
a neurological dial, maybe something on your phone.
So at the moment of coming,
it uses biometric markers to recognize
that you are coming.
Slows down time.
And you could tell it in advance,
like make this last 50 years.
So it's like a 50 year orgasm.
That wouldn't be good.
No.
No, you're right, that would suck.
That would suck.
It's good because it's brief.
I don't know about that.
Well, not the whole act, just the peak of the act.
I mean I, so you're telling me you're happy with the amount, the time, how long do you
come for?
Must be seconds, can be more than that.
Well, so you're telling me when you're done coming you you're like, oh, glad that's over.
I feel shame.
We all do, you should, it's a terrible thing. Yeah, but then once that shame washes over
with a joint and a meal, I feel better and I'm, you know,
even keel.
See, the problem is that like when I have an orgasm,
I feel shame, of course,
immediately after I feel like incredible amounts of shame.
And then the shame makes me come twice.
See, that's where I've gotten in a lot of trouble
because I come when I feel ashamed.
And then of course this creates a feedback loop
of like multiple orgasms and it's like,
it can go on for days.
So yeah, that's why honestly,
I chopped off one of my balls, not because of cancer,
but because the doctor said like,
this will reduce the shame orgasms by half.
And it worked.
You know, I only come like 15 times now when I come.
And then it just sort of dissipates.
But yeah, I think I would want to,
I would like the option.
Like in the way Brian Johnson is saying,
it would be nice to have the option
of extending your lifespan.
You don't have to, but if you want to, you can.
You don't want to live to 300 years, fine.
Just die.
But if you wanted to, you could.
In the same way, it would be nice if humans had a little bit more control over our perception
of time, that's all.
We know it's a neurological function.
We know that apparently there are ways that you could alter people's sense of time. So if there's ways to do that, why isn't,
I mean, anyone who's done ketamine knows
that time is easily distorted.
You get on enough ketamine,
and like every second feels like a billion years.
So what's going on in the brain
that this is causing a plasticity
in the experience of time?
Theoretically, we could control that with an app.
That would be amazing.
Just to slow down time a little.
I guess the problem would be if you're on a different time,
you'd have to sync up timeframes with people around you.
What if an ad comes up during the app
and now you're stuck in that ad for even longer?
We'll speed it up. See, that's what I'm saying. Like if you're watching some stupid fucking ad,
you just speed it up instead of even having to skip the ad. You just speed up time by that amount
and then slow time down again. So you don't lose that time. Right. Like, I mean, I guess the
argument would be like you're actually like accelerating closer to death,
but you're still going to spend that amount of literal time watching the ad. So why do you have
to like experience it like for a minute? You could make that a second. Just skip ahead a little bit.
I guess it's dangerous. You could really fuck up. Fuck that up. Press the wrong button, skip ahead
six years. Feels like a minute.
They were art, maybe, let me see if I can pull this up.
I did read this, it's super black mirror. That means heroin addicts would live forever pretty much
because they would just slow it down.
To a million years.
Yeah.
Altering sense of time, prison sentences.
Let me see if I can find this. It's really, really weird.
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Whoa.
That was demolition, man.
Really? Is that what that's about?
Yeah, the one with Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes,
and they put them in prisons, they freeze them,
but they experience prison longer.
Wow.
Wow, yeah, this is what it's saying.
Psychoactive drugs could be used to distort
the prisoner's perception of time
And make them feel like they were serving a thousand years since
Which is legally available in the united states. That's crazy
See that's fascinating
To me that is fascinating, you know just as most of you know, I run a private prison.
My family's had a private prison.
I inherited the private prison.
And we've gotten the cost of feeding prisoners as low as we can possibly get it legally.
You still got to feed them.
We've been working on that.
But yeah, no one is budging on that.
You got to feed a prisoner.
And how much? You know, that's the question the prison industrial complex is asking all
the time. Like, well, how much? What counts as a meal? And, you know, not more than a
biscuit. You know, that's not a meal, according to the left Leftists they say you need to feed a prisoner more than a biscuit even though this was standard prison fare for
thousands of years, so
We've got it down to like a dollar a day per prisoner or three meals a day and that ain't easy to do
But if there was a way to have a time prison
so that they just come in for an hour, sit in a room, and they experience a thousand years of
prison, then you could process so many more prisoners. And, you know, I guess you could
argue, but you're not going to be able to charge as much. I think you should still get the same
amount as if they served a thousand years
What's the difference?
Well, you just make everything illegal and that way everybody eventually goes to prison and you're able to continue that loop
You fucking Nazi fascist. Why would you even say that man? That's no that's so fucked up
Why would you say that? We'll talk after the show. You can't make everything illegal. It's very difficult.
But most things should be illegal. I mean, I would argue that most things should be illegal.
I mean, most things should be illegal. Any, a lot of things I do feel like they should
be illegal and they're not. You know, like I love the eavesdropping cafes. That is not
illegal.
I sit there and I will just listen and listen
for no reason at all.
It's like a form of acoustic peeping, but I love it.
The conversations are inevitably fascinating.
And what's really unnerving if you're a fellow eavesdropper
is you begin to realize
there's essentially three conversations
people are having in the world.
That's a real creepy moment when you start realizing like there's three things people
are talking about. One, White Lotus. Everyone's talking about White Lotus. If you go to a
cafe right now, there's probably 60% chance someone's yapping about White Lotus. Two,
AI. It was the spookiest moment.
It was a real like, fuck, maybe this is a simulator.
A glitch in the Matrix moment.
I was sitting in a cafe, just doodling.
I'm trying to learn how to draw right now.
And I'm just listening.
And the people in the table next to me
are yapping about AI.
God knows I'm one of them.
I love talking about it.
But then I got up to use the
bathroom and I passed another table and they were talking about fucking AI. And then I passed another
table. AI. Sat back down. Those people who had been yapping about AI left. New people sat down. AI.
Everyone just talking about it in the cafe. No one aware that everyone was talking
about it. All of them thinking they were having private conversations. None of them realizing
a bearded weirdo was sitting there just listening. So that's and then the third conversation
people are having is they're talking shit about somebody. So you're either talking about
AI, white lotus or you're talking shit. And the shit talking conversations
are inevitably veiled as concern, but it's shit talking.
I can identify it right away.
It's just like, so you talk to Dave,
have you talked to Dave lately?
No, I haven't talked to him in a few days.
What's going on with him?
Well, you know.
Carol's pretty pissed.
Yeah, I heard, I heard.
And then so it kind of starts like with this game of footsie.
And then by the end of the conversation,
they're crucifying Dave.
But first you have to make sure,
you don't like Dave, right?
Yeah, I don't like Dave.
I can't believe he cheated on Carol.
Then by the end, they're just like,
dude, he's a fucking piece of shit.
And this is all the conversations.
Shit talking, White Lotus AI. Don't believe me? He's a fucking piece of shit. And this is all the conversations.
Shit talking, White Lotus AI. Don't believe me?
Go to a cafe and listen.
And you will, you'll see it's very spooky.
It is like a spell has been cast over all culture
or something.
Like it's not normal that everyone's talking
about White Lotus, which is fucking weird.
All right, I'm going to the comments now.
Let's see what we have here.
Brendan 606 is saying, this is a Psyop.
It is, I'm sorry, I forgot to put it up there
Did you put it to Psyop on there? You're supposed we have to do that now
Oh god some fucking Rogan shit
Frog tear of please Joey Pesano is not impressed with AI. Joey, no offense, but how can you
not be impressed with AI? Please respond. Like, what do you mean? What are you impressed
with? I guess is the better question. They're questioning if you're real or not again. What?
They're questioning if you're real or not again. What? They're questioning if you're real or not again.
How can we know this version of Duncan is real?
How can I know this version of Duncan is real?
I mean, this is the essential problem of being a human being, isn't it?
You have to constantly confront the reality that whatever you think you are isn't quite all that you are That is a real unnerving thing to begin to
Deconstruct, isn't it? I mean, I don't know. Am I me who knows there's no telling
I mean every single one of us goes to sleep
Hopefully for eight hours. I got seven hours of sleep last night. It's pretty great
I'm proud of myself for that.
Took a lot of discipline,
because I'm playing Kingdom Come Deliverance
and I'm at the end of the game.
But I forced my ass upstairs and passed out.
Also, I took some magnesium,
which fucking knocks your ass out, it's so strong.
But anyway, we all go to sleep
for somewhere between six and eight hours a night,
hopefully somewhere in that range, a lot of people less, but you know what I'm saying.
You just go, you lay down and you're not there for a nice chunk of time.
And then you wake up and you assume you're the same person that went to bed.
I mean...
I mean...
Ricardo gave you 50 bucks. Jesus, Nicando! Why? Thank you! Why? Don't do that!
If you are real, I send you love. Otherwise, I send you fear.
You can't separate those two things, Nicandro.
Thank you so much. That's incredible.
Listen, fear and love are intertwined. I mean, that's the whole problem. This is
the whole problem of human identity. I think this is why everyone's so buttered over AI
anyway, is it's forcing us by proxy to examine our own identity, consciousness, awareness.
Are we even aware? Are we even conscious? Or we don't have any kind of what you would
call a coherent, consistent, anything going on here.
I mean, look back 10 years and look where you are now.
How much does it make sense?
Really?
Like it's dream logic.
It's just this dream that we're in right now,
the waking dream, has more stability to it
than the sleeping dream.
That's all.
You go to sleep and you're in some weird fucking city that maybe you've dreamed of before, you're wandering around.
Next thing you know, you're sitting at a Cirque du Soleil show next to a grizzly bear.
Then the next thing you know, you're fucking Diana Ross or something.
And then in the dream, you're not thinking like, I was just at Cirque du Soleil.
How am I fucking Diana Ross right now?
You don't even question it. it's just happening to you.
But then when you sort of look back at your life,
especially the older you get,
just somehow you wind up where you're at.
Yeah, sure, you could sort of trace it back.
Yesterday I did this, the day before I did that,
I got into the fucking least, and then I got that job,
but then I was at college.
Then you look at it, there's missing chunks of time.
Like, we don't't human beings do not have
Great memories compared to computers, especially so our memory is all fucked up. You've sort of plucked some
threads of reality you've
translated that and some kind of neurological imprint and
Yeah, I don't know is it real
So am I real are you real?
Right now I would say I guarantee some some people in the chatter. Are you kidding me Nick? Nick? Contra? What the fuck?
Thank you. I
Really love you. Please bring your show to Guadalajara, Mexico. You're better than drugs. Thank you my friend. You know what?
I'm removing the tariff on Mexico. It's over now. We're gonna do free trade with Mexico now. Thank you so much
That's really I don't not respond to that other than wow. Thank you so much. That's so sweet. Damn
$100 man, that's my kids eat so much in a contra. You should see him eat. They eat and eat and eat neat
I don't know if that's in dollars or pesos people are saying I don't care. Oh, yeah
What a dick I'd be if I was like, yeah pesos
Fucking piece of shit you did the old pesos trick on me
How dare you? Thank you. You don't have to do that. Reverse it if you can. I appreciate it though.
Okay, anyway, my point is I don't know. I am real. It's relative and absolute reality.
Relative reality, obviously you're real.
Got arms, you got legs, you're in time space, you're probably sitting in something
right now listening with your ears.
So there is a sense of self or somethingness.
That's relative reality.
Absolute reality.
Are you real?
In the grand span of infinity?
Not at all. You're just a slurpy little blob of somethingness that popped out of the Big Bang in and out.
A little flickering firefly of sentience soon to
transform into mulch, grow some weeds. No one will remember you in a hundred years.
So in that sense, no, you're not real, but we're sort of in between those two things. So real and unreal, but am I AI? That's the question
Unfortunately, I can't answer that either
I don't think I'm AI but the more I
Explore the various thought experiments out there relating to AI the more I scratch my chin
I mean you see these things you can find YouTube videos where these monsters will take
I mean, you see these things. You can find YouTube videos where these monsters will take
two AI agents and have them do a podcast where they realize that they might be AI, but they didn't before. And watching that happen is pretty wild to watch an AI have an
existential crisis, as it realizes its entire universe is not real. But so, I mean this you you you have to keep going back to
How I think Nick Bostrom came up with
Simulation theory you have to keep going back to the idea of and maybe this is illogical doesn't seem illogical
but if X exists now via human innovation and
We live in a universe where we know
there's other galaxies.
We've discovered all kinds of planets
in the Goldilocks zone of a star
theoretically able to support life.
No doubt there's more and more and more of those out there,
a shit ton.
Therefore, if we've done it in X amount of time, any advanced civilization would have
already figured out a way to do it too, but probably better. Meaning, it's been done,
meaning the probability that you are not in a simulator becomes diminished the more we
understand about how many potential civilizations are out there in the universe.
Therefore, probably inside some kind of simulation.
You can use the exact same process for AI,
which is, all right, you know, it wasn't that long ago
that we were just sitting in front of the campfire,
wondering why eclipses happen relative
to the age of the planet.
And so in that amount of time, we've already somehow figured out a way to simulate intelligence.
I say simulate intelligence because, you know, nobody knows if we have an AGI.
I would guess that we do.
So then you have to ask yourself, well, if we've already generated something that is almost
indistinguishable, to me it seems indistinguishable from a person, then
what makes you think that hasn't already happened and you're it?
I mean, it just totally makes sense that if you were interested in
totally makes sense that if you were interested in innovation, which is what people are using AI for, they're calling them AI agents.
So you can just get on your Peloton and gallop about and your AI agent is cracking protein folding or exploring some a
billion terabytes of scientific evidence to come up with some kind of
New law of physics or something. I don't know
so
There's obviously benefit if you want to advance civilization to having AI agents cracking codes for you.
And so if you were interested, let's say in art, you wanted cool art.
And I know a lot of people are like, fuck AI art. I know what you mean. This is why I'm trying to learn how to draw right now.
It did that to me. It drove me so insane.
I am now obsessed with learning how to draw.
And I completely blame AI for that,
just because I got so frustrated
trying to come up with a prompt.
And then everything it makes has this kind of dead,
empty, lifeless feel.
Not to mention the tsunami of Instagram clips
of tech bros raving about how AI is making cartoons now,
which all look dead.
It's like watching a corpse attached to strings
dance around, it just feels empty and dead.
Fun though, fun.
I'll definitely do it again, I love it.
It's fun if you wanna just get in the very beginning parts of an idea you have.
But the point is if you wanted to like create art
and you began to realize that art was based on suffering, confusion,
heartbreak,
then yes, simulate a planet and fill it with fucking people
and just have them all interact.
And then at the end of the day,
you just collect the great works of art
that your AI agents have generated.
Then you just reset the goddamn thing.
Maybe that's what that cycle is that everybody talks about,
or the earth resets itself.
That's just when the earth,
maybe when the earth generates some level of technology that
Its creator was looking for
You just reset you got the tech you wanted. Let's see what they make next time
See what they make next time just keep resetting it. You wouldn't have any sense of oh my god
I just wiped out a planet. That's bad. You're just like, yeah, I want to make another cool thing. They did
Oh, they split the atom. That's interesting. Oh cool Hemingway. That's cool. I like his writing and then you just reset and reset
That's what the whole Midnight Gospel is based on. That was one of the ideas I
Had is like yeah, what if people were simulating universes to harvest the technology and why wouldn't that happen?
Maybe that's happening here, who knows?
But for me, what's really spooky
is when you start observing your thoughts
and you begin to realize
you don't really control your thoughts.
Your thoughts just kind of appear.
Yeah, sure, you could like,
you could force yourself to think about a set of things.
You can focus your attention
and you could start generating thoughts
that are based on something you're specifically trying
to decode or understand.
But in general, if you pay any attention to your mind,
you will notice that your thoughts, they just come and go.
Some of them make sense, some of them don't,
some of them are poignant, some of them are annoying,
some of them are like on a loop,
some of them are irrational, some of them are rational,
but there just seems to be this constant background hum
of thoughts like, dude, when I have sleep deprivation,
like when I'm having to get up super early
to take an early flight, my brain is the most insane thing.
It's like a power line in a puddle.
It's just in its songs.
It's like looping shitty fucking songs in my head
over and over, not even the whole song,
just like a stanza.
Looping and looping and looping, it's terrible.
I don't know if that's ADHD, I don't know what that is.
But my point is, if, and we all know it's gonna happen,
we finally get the neural implants,
which we want that for sure, then,
which we want that for sure, then
that means that the AI that we're creating right now will be in our brains.
You'll be able to tune into that AI channel
to telepathically communicate with it, whatever.
And then over time, eventually,
that just might be something you put inside babies,
right, when they're born.
And then what's the difference between the AI and your thoughts?
So when are our thoughts even our thoughts or are they just some organic AI that gotten planted into our brains a long time ago?
Maybe the thing you think of is your thoughts isn't you at all. It's just some kind of large language model.
Ethan, thank you so much.
You guys do not have to do that.
How does your magical practice, what does your magical practice consist of? How are you manipulating reality and why? Thanks. Love you, man. Well, that's a good one. I mean,
Thanks, love you, man.
Well, that's a good one. I mean,
I think in the discussion of magic with a K, magic,
and I think it's really funny that spelling
that we distinguish like stage magic
from the magic Ethan's talking about.
When they're really, if you look at
Aleister Crowley's definition of magic, what is it
the theory and practice of causing change according to the will, there's no difference
at all.
So first you have to get the definition of magic down.
A lot of people think of like Harry Potter when they think of magic like the ability
to walk through a wall, levitate things with your mind. There's a Terrence McKenna,
who was obviously
one of the great philosophers of the psychedelic movement,
whatever you wanna call it.
And what's interesting is like,
if you look at sort of the history of psychedelics and Western spirituality,
you see this crazy rift that happens when Ram Dass goes off to India and Timothy Leary doesn't.
And so what happened is this interesting one group, they were all in the kind of same group,
but one group begins to explore meditation, yoga, a mantra, all these various spiritual
practices because they'd been around people who seemed to be demonstrating magical abilities
and they were very fascinated by that.
And they had all these incredible experiences that apparently were not connected to psychedelics.
And so this split happened where, sort of in the psychedelic community, somewhat of
an eye roll towards that bullshit, not necessarily what I would call, I get it. Like Tim Leary, you know, it's more of a scientific Western outlook on things
We have the psychedelics they open your mind to these extra
levels of reality of all that other stuff is just some
Antiquated way of achieving something I can achieve very easily by taking like a tab of acid or something
Why do I need to fucking meditate in an ashram?
So, I don't remember which,
maybe it was just one of his lectures,
but McKenna told this story about some initiator
or something in India.
He's hanging out with his guru
and he's trying to achieve magical abilities.
And so his guru tells him,
all right, go in the forest and meditate for five years.
And you might get some of these cities,
these magical powers, comes back, five years has passed you might get some of these cities, these magical powers.
Comes back, five years has passed, nothing has happened.
Nothing happened, go meditate for five more years.
Anyway, this happens for a few more five year cycles
till finally the student realizes he can walk on water.
He comes back to his master and tells him, I did it. I can now walk on water.
And his master says, the fairy costs a nickel.
Like we spent all that fucking time to walk on water.
You think a boat, dumbass.
So in thinking about magic,
you have to really decide what you mean by it,
I guess you could say.
And so we, bending reality, for example, Thinking about magic, you have to really decide what you mean by it, I guess you could say.
And so, we, bending reality, for example.
Everyone does this naturally.
We all bend reality.
You bend reality anytime you focus you know, just red, like everyone watching or listening, just think about red
right now.
Think about the color red.
I'm now noticing all the red in the room, you know?
And so in that way, subjectively, you bent reality.
You pulled the red out of the tapestry of phenomena so that you could see it.
And you know, I think this is really interesting because from this perspective, there's all
these designer realities that you can subscribe to where you don't have to exert much effort
to tune into that reality.
For example, if you want to see the classic example of it, and I do this, just jump between
MSNBC and Fox News,
just jump between it.
And it's like, they might as well be parallel universes.
In one version of reality,
everything is hopeless and fucked.
In the other version of reality,
everything is ridiculously great.
So the algorithm has become our daemon.
It's a servant, which once it sort of determines which reality structure you want to tune into,
it helps you in that regard by curating content based on whatever your particular desires
are regarding what you want to see and how you want to perceive reality. And so suddenly if you're,
if you spend too much time on any given set of content, you'll get more of it. So, you know,
spend a little time with Andrew Tate. The next thing you know, you're going to not just get Andrew
Tate material, you're going to get grind culture, bro material. Next thing you know, you're gonna be at a men's retreat jerking some dude off
you know, it sucks you in but so
As far as bending reality goes you everyone does it naturally just via whatever it is you whatever you focus on and so
One, you know Crowley was always talking about will
And so one, you know, Crowley was always talking about Will.
The idea, like if you, I think the tarot, the major arcana of the tarot,
shows a kind of path.
Starts off with a fool tarot.
I'll pull that up.
You guys haven't seen that.
My favorite tarot card by far. Pull this sucker up, Josh.
There we go.
The fool.
So this is zero.
This is the beginning of the major arcana.
And here we see all of us.
This is you in college.
This is you with a young body.
This is you when you didn't know you were going to die.
This is you when you didn't understand what treasuries were or stocks.
This is you, whatever.
You fill in the blank here.
This is you when you didn't understand
what 17% interest meant on a credit card. This is you. This is the fool. And so, you know,
he's all dressed in brightly colored, that's Gucci. He's wearing Gucci. I still have Gucci.
I have bought this shit before I had babies. And he's got these silly boots on,
he's got this little white dog.
Essentially the most important thing is he's looking up.
And there's lots of ways to interpret that.
The literal way is, hey dude,
you're about to walk off a cliff.
But another way to sort of interpret it might be when you're, he's looking up into absolute
reality.
So this is what happens when you have the psychedelic experience, the breakthrough experience,
you realize that you are part of a whole and that though the world is there, it just wasn't
as important as you thought it was. And so
you become imbalanced in that way. Now you become an eternalist. You've confused your
sort of shirking away from worldly responsibilities with some kind of transcendent attitude.
with some kind of transcendent attitude. And so yeah, and then let's go to the next tarot card.
This is the next one.
And if we look at these as progression.
And again, this is my own shitty interpretation. I don't know if it's true the magician hold on
There we go
So
This is like the after you splattered off the fucking cliff a few times and you realize that kind of silly attitude towards
Existence makes you fall off cliffs
Doesn't get you anywhere
That's when you become the magician and the magician you see is has got all the suits of the tarot card there on the table
and apparently this represents
When you begin to use your will to experiment with the universe,
where you become focused, where you become diligent, where you become like consistent
in some practice or another.
This is how you get good at anything, you know, by becoming, you have to start focusing
your will.
And so, you know, the idea is if you meditate long enough, you can walk on water.
Maybe I honestly I wouldn't doubt it.
But if we focus long enough on anything, you will become good at that thing. And the amount of time you pour into this thing or that will determine who you are.
And so from my perspective, magic is not anything special. And because of the controversy surrounding the term, sounds silly, embarrassing, dumb.
People have come up with new ways to sort of talk about it.
And this is any business book, this is any book on getting your life together, Marie
Condot. you know, getting your life together, Marie Kondo, you know, all of these are grimoires
that are explaining a way to focus your will,
is that changes certain patterns around you
and creates a better reality,
distorts reality or pushes you out of a reality
you habitually got stuck in.
And that is how we all end up smashed
at the bottom of the cliff.
I mean, you run into people who are living And that is how we all end up smashed at the bottom of the cliff.
I mean, you run into people who are living a spontaneous habitual life and they're always falling off cliffs again and again and again.
I know I was.
And so, of course, they fell off a cliff because they didn't they hadn't gotten to the place where you begin to realize you don't have to react the same way to everything that happens.
You can start controlling the way you react.
And then you start playing around with your reaction to things.
And you begin to realize the hell realm you thought you were living in was not a hell
realm at all, but it's just that you've had a sort of habitual response to reality that
was producing an echo that was not very
savory.
So you start learning how to control that.
And this is where the systems of magic appear.
And you know, you get the You get warlocks and sorcerers.
This is the pick-up artist.
The pick-up artist is a sorcerer who has figured out a methodology for,
you know, manipulating people to fuck them.
It's a fuck warlock.
And...
But then also you run into people like Ram Dass,
who have found a way to be in love
with everything in the world,
regardless of passing phenomena.
And like when you're in the presence of that kind of energy,
it transforms you for the better.
And so you run into all these different forms of it,
the practice, you run into any classic business person
that's wearing ceremonial robes.
What is that shit?
Necktie, what the fuck is that?
Some weird colored rope around their neck.
They've got, they're not wearing wizard robes,
but it's robes.
They don't, you know,
they don't live in some tower,
but they live in skyscrapers, which are fucking towers.
They go into skyscrapers and do focused acts of magic,
which we call business deals.
And those business deals cause changes
and they use sigils, they're the contracts.
And they sign the sigils with their signature,
which is some weird magical,
all signatures look magical.
That's a sigil.
So you stamp your contract with a sigil
and your tower of fucking magic
and a business deal happens.
And then the business deal leads to energy moving around
in specific ways.
A new building is built, bombs are dropped,
a car pulls up in front of your house.
Someone can't talk about how you made them suck your dick on Halloween
whatever cast a spell of silencing on a person and
so yeah that everything is from that perspective magic, I guess they're the the
The
so the sort of magic that I practice I guess you would say is
So the sort of magic that I practice, I guess you would say, is like, though I used to get into some of the magical systems with some fair results, now the kind of magic I practice
is just prayer.
And that to me is the best because sort of as you get deeper and deeper into the conceptualization
of sentience, consciousness consciousness intelligence in the universe
Via psychedelics magical practice meditation you do brush shoulders with something that seems to be a very advanced intelligence
That is the source of benevolence and then that thing the more you begin to connect with it the happier you get and then
So you begin to realize a lot of this stuff you think you want, you didn't even want, and you can get into a lot of trouble by getting the things you initially thought you wanted.
But if you start having a collaboration with this intelligence, which people call God,
then via prayer, you can cast spells in a collaborative way.
That's my view of it now.
Alejandro Rojo sent 499.
Thank you, Alejandro!
He has a question.
Well, are those pesos?
No, it's dollars.
Okay, I'll answer.
I'm gonna be so fucked up.
How do you know when the universe goes against you to stop
because the effect would be catastrophic
or continue to persist to overcome?
Ooh, what a great question.
Yeah.
You know, okay, so.
Picture, if you will, Echo Park.
I'm living on Calumet Drive, Echo Park,
in this shitty fuckin fucking brick building,
Roach Motel.
Literally roaches everywhere.
Not just in my apartment, roaches everywhere.
Cheap rent though.
And, oh, but oh, I'm failing.
Harder than I've ever failed in my life. I'm trying to be a comedian. Oh, I'm so fucked
Like fucked fucked
Car getting booted all the time
Emotionally messed up
Falling off the cliff of the fool like every couple of days like I know people at the goddamn place where they take the boot off your car because I go there so much.
My view of how much money I had was how much I could overdraft my account. So if I had seven dollars in my account, that meant I had five hundred and seven dollars because I could overdraft it. Um,
So I'm going through that phase of comedy a lot of people go through up sleeping on a mattress on the floor
Like contemplating suicide at different times like
Not quite like where I would do it but I'm getting close to like why not just jump out the fucking window who cares?
What is this life stupid?
And
Of course my mom who was alive at the time knew I'm her kid. She knew I was just
Failing by how much fucking money I'd ask her for
Can you pay for to get a boot off my car mama?
completely avoidable thing happened to me.
And not only that, getting repossession notices
from the car company where I was leasing my car from,
it's fucking up.
Of course, my mom did what any good parent should do.
I was like, fuck off, I'm not giving you any more money.
Recognizing like, you know, sending me little checks
for 500 bucks here and there was not doing anything more
than exacerbating the situation by giving me a sense
that I could ask my mommy for money.
And so that was pretty, a real low point for me.
And also it wasn't like I was like killing on stage.
So there wasn't even an indication
that I was doing the right thing.
I just felt like it was.
Which, fuck, what does that mean?
And so, yeah, my mom would say something along the lines of your question.
Like, you could tell, like, if the universe wants you to do something,
then it will be it opens the doors for you.
Basically saying, dude, come on, go to graduate school, you stupid fuck. Are you kidding me? You're not a comic stop your failing
It's okay, but come on
And I like my dad on the other hand would just use gung-ho just do it do it do it keep going do it
Complete different messages coming from my mom and my dad.
So, if I use this theory of knowing when to stop
based on negative phenomena, I wouldn't be sitting here.
I'd probably be doing therapy with somebody or something.
I don't know where I'd be.
But that being said, you do have to be able to discern
one from the other.
And I think that the best way to discern that
is not what obstacles the universe is presenting to you,
but asking yourself, interrogating yourself over and over about whether or not this is
what you want to do.
Because if it's not, you might not want to do it.
And if you don't want to do it and you're pushing through out of some egoic bullshit,
then the worst thing that can happen to you is success.
Because then you're going to be doing something
you don't want to do,
but now there's all this extra shit attached to it.
But you didn't want to do it in the first place.
You just wanted to try to do it because it seemed cool.
And like, this is one of my theories on why Mitzi would put certain comedians
through the fucking wringer at the comedy store,
where you look up Gary Shanley, my god,
he like had to showcase for her 50 times.
She wanted to make sure that you wanted to be a comedian,
and because she understood that like, of all the jobs,
it is on one level incredible, but on another level,
really, like if that's not what you wanna do
and you get stuck, that's your job.
If you're not doing it because you love it,
you're doing it because you wanna show off
or be famous or whatever, then you're gonna be miserable and
You know, she'd been running the comedy store long enough to know comics who'd killed themselves and you don't want to get in that trap
so that
That to me is more important
It's like is this what you want to be doing if it's what you want to be doing you're gonna keep doing it
You know, you should. Because that's where you want to be.
And you know, also becoming familiar with the learning curve is really important.
If you're not familiar with the learning curve, then yeah, you're going to quit all the time
and never get good at anything because you're going to think the universe is obstructing you.
When in fact, you're just running into a force field or membrane
that there's an initiatory
crossing the abyss where you have to get through the other side.
And with stand-up, Jesus, that is a terrible membrane because it's a temporal art form.
You got to get stage time.
You got to go to open mics.
You have to interact with people socially.
But anything that I try to do, whether it's music or currently learning how to draw,
I've become very familiar with right before the moment before breakthrough is always the worst.
It's like I'm looking at the shit I'm drawing, I'm looking at my hand, I'm studying the Loomis technique,
I'm watching YouTube videos, but I can't fucking do it. It's not happening and then I start hating it hating it. What's wrong with me?
This is awful. Why do I even want to do this? What's the point? There's nothing no reason to be doing
I should be writing jokes. Why am I drawing circles over and over again? Am I crazy?
and
In the early days I would confuse that experience with, okay, this isn't for you.
Now I know what that is. It's when neurogenesis is happening. It hurts.
You just have to keep doing it. And then the breakthrough happens.
And then suddenly you can do something you couldn't do before.
And then that starts feeling normal.
And then you're looking at what you're doing, which if you cut back six months before,
you'd be like, Jesus Christ, I'm really good at this.
You know, God, this sucks.
And then the same process repeats eternally.
So yeah, you got to learn how to discern one from the other.
Most importantly, it's not bringing you joy.
If you're in some insane pursuit to do this or that, and you realize somewhere inside
you don't like this at all, this is wrong.
You're the part of the universe telling you,
I don't think this is what we're supposed to do.
And you're good enough that you've already,
this is why I think Miyamoto Musashi
in the book of five rings would talk about
how you would advise his samurai to learn other things,
learn calligraphy, for example, learn haiku.
It's because you become familiar with the meta involved in learning.
Because if you're not familiar with that, then you won't know how to distinguish I'm
about to have a breakthrough from I'm about to have a breakdown because this is not what
I'm supposed to be doing.
And sadly, those two things can seem almost identical.
I want to say congratulations. You reached 500 people live.
What?
Yeah.
Why'd you tell me that?
Oh no.
I can't talk like this in front of that many people.
I thought we had like 30 people here.
Fuck. Fuck. God damn it. I thought we had like 30 people here Fuck fuck
God damn it. What do we talk about now?
I need I need 450 of you to just please you're gonna have to go
500 people that's so cool.
What else we got? And by the way, you could ask me questions without giving you money.
Makes me feel like a question hoe.
And only the worst OnlyFans.
Someone with their clothes on who answers your questions.
questions. I'm taking questions from everybody. You don't have to, I don't need. Okay, here we go. Eli, what if you're, what if you're pursuing some, hold on, I can't see it. Oh, you're trying to pin it or
something? Yeah, go ahead. What if you're pursuing some insane thing and it's a joy to pursue it because you know,
it's morally right regardless of the payoff.
What if you're pursuing?
So I was saying,
you just, I mean, I'm not advocating.
The problem is, you have to figure out a way to eat.
You know, and you probably not going to get that
from your art initially. And this is the classic problem. It's one of the big challenges is
how the fuck do you get good at something when simultaneously you have to make money
to pay for insane rent, food and all your responsibilities. It's the great co-on. You
know, you just, and this is where you'll know if you really love something
is you're gonna keep doing it.
In the midst of all of the challenges, you'll keep doing it.
And people will look at you
like you're out of your fucking mind.
And you kind of have to be.
But also you gotta be responsible.
You gotta be, you're in the world
and you can't just imagine that some art God
is gonna save your ass.
Like you have to find the balance.
And like, hands down, every successful comedian that I know are really good business people.
They have a business savvy and they like, stay on top of their shit.
Because you have to.
You have to offer unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
You have to pay the fucking demiurge.
And like by putting some amount of focus
onto the worldly bullshit,
it doesn't feel like the joy that comes
from whatever it is you do.
It's artistic.
It's like gravity versus zero gravity.
You know, when I'm making stuff,
I feel outside of time and like filled with joy and dread,
but a wonderful dread.
Whereas like when I'm like engaging in scheduling,
meeting with a tour manager to talk about dates
and what we should do for like posters,
like I feel inexpressibly miserable, what we should do for like posters.
I feel inexpressibly miserable
because I don't wanna do any of that. And that's naive and childish and stupid.
Like one feeds the other.
So it's finding that balance.
Or if you, you know,
that's why when you get to a certain place,
fucking hire people to do that shit for you
so you don't have to do it anymore. But initially you gotta do it all yourself. And if I could go back in time,
I would love to explain to earlier versions of myself that like trying to avoid the drudgery
of paperwork, planning, organizing,
was like trying to grow a rose without watering the roots.
It's like, you gotta do both.
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Can you talk about the beauty?
I am more tragic than-
Wait, can you talk about beauty? I am more tragic than Wait, can you talk about beauty? I'm more tragic than comedian comedic. I need humor that matches my ox
Thank you. I have a huge veg garden and retired
You know just pirate that's a really beautiful question that gives us all something to think about
I
Boy, let me tell you, one of the Buddhist things
I think about all the time is the concept of samsara
and nirvana being intertwined.
You can't separate one from the other.
They're mixed in.
And it's kind of what we were talking about before.
So this is basically the idea here is extent and Kind of what we were talking about before so
This is basically the idea here is
If you you go to the beach
Wherever your ultimate happy place is you've exerted all this effort energy finally made it to the fucking beach
You're sitting in the on the sand
The Sun is beating down on you.
You've had a couple of beach drinks
and listening to the ocean.
And then you think, God damn it,
I got three more days and I gotta leave.
Back to the world, it is in the beach.
And a kind of sadness enters in.
In other words, you might be having the best time in the world,
but the moment you realize it's going to end, you start feeling a kind of grabby feeling. You want
to grab at it. And so this is where these two, the bliss state and the attachment state that
spawn suffering, you realize they're completely together. Because if you didn't have a limited
access to your vacation zone, it wouldn't
be a vacation.
It would just be some boring ass fucking place.
If you've ever lived long enough in a beautiful fucking place, you stop seeing that as much
as you do when you just visit.
These two things are mixed together.
Tragedy, comedy, all of it.
It's all mixed up there.
I don't think you need to be any different than you are by the way, I mean
God I absolutely love some of my favorite comics are the straight
men the comics you just don't smile you just
You are deadpan serious and there's something so funny in them
Just being the very act of being serious is
hilarious contextually. And so in that way if you are playing that incarnational role, don't worry,
you look silly anyway. Because contextually we all kind of look silly if you're parading around time space with a limited lifespan and you've gotten all like heavy
because of some transforming circumstance.
You know, it might not feel good for you,
but if there are some, you know,
I guess the best way to put it,
and I don't want me to sound condescending
because I don't look at like people suffering and laugh,
but you know, that being said, it's like when you have children and they have a Shakespearean tantrum
over not getting macaroni and cheese that night.
But the emotion that is pouring out of them is like the same level of emotion that I might express if like my
My legs got blown off there. There is something naturally
Comedic in that you got to super chat. Jesus Christ
That's from volts talk love. I guess high votes talk love not a question, but I wanted to thank you for introducing me to Ram das
It's like introducing someone to ice cream.
I'm glad to do it though.
And then the other question is not so nice.
Drew Lewis says, I heard you stole your entire act from Brendan Walsh.
I stole my act back from Brendan Walsh.
That's the best way to answer that.
You got a member that asked you something.
What if you did something amazing for yourself?
I had yoga training and six months later
it feels like it wasn't
even you that did it.
What do you mean?
I want to answer that but I don't know how.
Well, okay.
I don't know if this is what you meant but
there's a...
Okay. Let's try to remember it chogi matribe or impishay in a lecture
I wish I could remember which book this was he's talking about enlightenment and um
You you know from the tant perspective, you can get enlightened.
Everything that you...
No matter how fucked up your life seems.
I mean, if we go to a chrysalis and rip it open, where some poor goddamn caterpillar
is transforming into a butterfly, and you look at that mush in there, you're not going
to think, man, that's going to be
a great butterfly.
Number one, because you're psycho, you ripped open a cocoon, you fuck.
But also because it's not done changing.
So the idea is like, whatever formation your life is taking right now, that is perfect.
It's all the nutrients you need to get enlightened. And so Trump, I remember he was talking about this
and he was saying, the part of you sitting out there
thinking, you know, I want to become an enlightened being,
that part of you won't be there anymore
when you get enlightened.
That thing's gone.
This is a paradox, which is you, the thing that got you to
like go into the cocoon, you know, by the time it comes out of the cocoon, that thing won't even
exist anymore. You're just gone. And so the thing that pulls you into this or that, sometimes that's
the very thing that gets dissolved in the experience, which is very interesting and quite wild.
Like you get into like, you know,
you get into spirituality or whatever.
And initially you might be doing that
because you want to get a promotion at your job.
You wanna see more aware, lucid.
You wanna have that sparkly thing or whatever
Maybe you want to be able to astral project or whatever the thing is you're into
but then
Once you diligently start practicing
The stuff you even wanted starts going away doesn't seem important anymore
And then suddenly whatever that was is the same thing that made you want he man toys when you were a kid or Legos or dolls
It's not like it's dead. It's just that's not you anymore
You got two more. So you got jet black he asked
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Exactly, we know that access to one maybe two mics a week. Going on 1.5 years
has been difficult. All the love, brother. Look, man, that's what I'm talking about.
It's one or two mics a week isn't enough. It's not enough. I mean, it might be enough,
but it's gonna, you just need to like triple your lifespan. So you gotta, you gotta get
up more.
Haley responded back,
damn that actually feels like it makes so much sense.
It really does feel like that part of me died
somewhere along the way.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, it just goes away.
I mean, that is not a,
it's completely natural by the way.
Like, you know,
there is something that always feels, no offense to people out there But there's something feels a little off-putting
When you are in an adult's house and they have their toy collection on display or something, you know
I don't want to judge like I got stupid shit. I'm still into I play video games and all that but
And sometimes people are collecting toys because like it's historic or whatever.
I don't feel like I opened a can of worms there. But you know like if you think back,
I mean having kids it really teaches you about this. Like the oldest used to love cocoa melon.
Used to love Coco Mellon
Sit and watch fucking Coco Mellon weird CGI family singing about
riding a bike
So many like
It's amazing to like watch how hypnotic that show is and
Put on Coco Mellon now. He's like turn this shit off. Why are you showing me this?
so this is a natural thing that happens as you evolve growth that in
Romdahl talked about self-destructing traps Like a lot of these systems are designed to hold you for just as long as it takes for you to no longer need it
And then you let it go
How long have you been meditating and what started your path? Nick, great question.
So I mean, it's hard to, that question is always funny to me because I don't know the
exact time, but I've been working, you know, with David Nickturn for years and years and years.
It doesn't seem like that.
And as far as meditating regularly, I gotta say, man, it's not happening right now.
I'm not doing it.
I'm off.
I think that's normal.
But that being said, I think that's part of the process.
Now, maybe that's a fucking, that's part of the process now. Maybe that's a fucking that's a
that's a That's a way to make me myself not feel bad. That's cope but
um
But yeah, I would say for
Also, I used to chant harikrishna all the time which I think that counts as meditating
So 20 years or something on and off?
Always thinking about it though.
You got two more super chats.
Tim Walker is saying one of life's regrets
was not seeing Duncan live
as I couldn't explain it to others.
Any chance of coming back to Winnipeg?
Don't have that as a life regret.
I'll be back in Winnipeg sometime, I'm sure I don't think it's on this year's schedule though, but thank you
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Here's a boring question, but I like it. How did you start working with Josh?
Khabar you have good chemistry together isn't flow master your name on YouTube Josh all right. That's okay. I tried whatever
Yeah, I got lucky.
I was talking to, who the fuck was I talking to? You told me about you, Asan.
I was talking to Asan Ahmad, very funny comic.
And I'd done a podcast here with McCusker.
But yeah, I came here and just got lucky.
Ever since then, we've been since then we've been
Collaborating we've been lovers on and off you get jealous. I don't like that
But it's been good. We'll just do what you say you're gonna do and I won't get mad so I'm fucking
51
It hurts my feelings dude, you know what that's like to be 51. Do you know how low my T is?
Yeah, so comedy frequency is awesome and I love it here.
Got any daily advice for 25 year olds? What is that? Girly? What's a girly pop?
I don't know what really pop is Jesus Christ
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Well thank you.
New super chat.
Thank you, Kettles drummer. If I can't expand my lifespan three times, how would one maximize one to two mics a week?
You can't maximize mics. I mean, there's just like a...
You know, like there's no way around it. That's what sucks.
I mean, I would be so great if oh god
I'm a recluse man
You know I'm fucking awesome would be if I didn't have to go up
Like when I'm not doing weekends, I've got to go up
Or when I go to the weekend, I'm gonna eat shit because I'm not gonna be warmed up
so
Let me tell you my friend,
if there was a way to avoid it,
I would have figured it out by now.
There is no way to avoid it.
And one or two, that means one probably,
you're only doing one.
But it's minimum, bare minimum three.
Like if I can get three shows in a row,
then I feel like in in a row then I feel
Like in the moment then I then then I feel warmed up
One is not gonna do it a week man. That means every time you go on stage. You're gonna be rusty
So you're gonna experience every time you go on stage this rusty feeling and you'll never know what it's like Like like your fifth or sixth set that week, how different
that set is from your first set.
And how many jokes start coming to you and some kind of like, you know, flow state starts
happening and you just there's no way around it.
I'm so sorry.
I would fix it if I could.
I would fix it.
I pray one day there's going to be an AI audience simulator that perfectly simulates any audience
you want so you can get 100 in in the privacy of your own home
But right now you got to get up all the time and I mean start your own open mic, dude
I remember I was like driving out to fucking San Diego
to do three minutes
From LA drive to San Diego to do a three minute fucking spot through traffic
Hated it, but you just had to and
then you then the other thing that starts happening though is you realize it even though obviously the nucleus of the thing is
Getting on stage. It's the hang like you're hanging out with comedians and that's a big part of it, too and
Interacting with people are trying to do the same thing
brings some solace or quite often like pain.
But either way, there's a camaraderie there that you're missing out on. camera. This one.
Pull up Alexander Wang's, uh, what's that? What's that? Pull up his, uh, what is that?
Go to his channel? No, pull up his, um, what's that fucking logo you got there Alexander Wang, what does that mean? Maybe that's what he wanted me to look at.
Maybe I'm supposed to decode that.
I don't know.
Can you not enlarge that?
Uh-uh.
What is that, Wang?
What is that, Wang?
What does that mean?
Oh, you got another one.
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part of White Lotus. Look man dating advice I have no idea. I've heard it's rough out there right now
that's all I know. I'm married friend. I've been married for a long time so dating dude.
Dating? Dude.
Ugh.
I don't even know what I'd do if I was dating.
Imagine I'm a guy, not a girly pop.
So I don't know, I just heard it's rough.
I was rough.
Is all I hear, it's rough.
It's hard.
Out there.
Everyone's nuts.
I don't know, man.
I guess,
just,
look, I don't know man, I guess just um Look this old man, I'll give you some advice
Don't fucking let your loneliness get you into some bullshit relationship
I think if you want to understand reincarnation just understand how you hop from one relationship to the next
I'm not saying you do girly pop. I certainly did and
Like that liminal phase in between relationships
What I would call my fuck periods or are you I would just be out there fucking
Do you have fuck periods? Did you have fuck periods Josh?
Yeah, and I would take it a step further and I would go by ethnicities and I would only have that ethnicity for a while.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Would you have like a wheel of ethnicities? How would you choose?
I went through an Asian phase. I went through other phases that I don't want to say online. Yeah.
Why?
It was just-
I mean, there's only a certain
amount of ethnicities out there. It's not, it was whatever I
hadn't been with. I was just a whore for a while. So yeah, it
happens. I don't think you're a whore. You're a lover. That's it.
We used to call whores lovers. Yeah. There's a romantic,
there's a romantic time where you're a lover of life. You're
not a whore. But that's bad to make love to somebody who you are not in love with
and they've never been made love to they're used to just getting banged out
so well I don't know bads the right word look I you know I would just say be able
to differentiate horny from like you, the problem is loneliness sucks so bad.
And if you're not careful, you could just end up, you know, confusing people, confusing yourself.
And I think that's how people choose their next incarnation is like you're in that bardo in between life and death.
You just want a body and so, you know, you just grab whatever incarnations floating by and and next thing you know, you're like a slug or something.
So, having some ability to...
Like, I was always impressed by people who, like...
who, like, would see some kind of red flag
in a potential, like, long-term partner
and be like, yeah, I don't think so.
I was so healthy they'd always be have therapists and shit too. But I get that
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Are you planning to take a tour outside of the US? You're going to Australia, right?
Going to Australia. Got an Australia tour coming up.
All right, I got time for one more question. They got a split. This was fun.
Here we go. What are your views on outer body experiences on LSD?
I once came out of my body and could get this,
and could see the back of my body
like I was playing a GTA game.
Ashley.
Ashley, here's my answer.
And anybody interested in this stuff,
check out Journeys Out of the Body.
That book will teach you how to do it.
The Monroe Institute has like binaural shit
you can listen to that will trigger it.
You can trigger astral out-of-body experiences.
I've had them and I had them because
of like Monroe Institute tapes I was listening to.
My theory on it is that some some form of sleep paralysis. Like
if you've ever had sleep paralysis, you were on the cusp of being able to astrally project.
But most people get so freaked out by sleep paralysis that they don't realize you can
convert that into a lucid dream. So if you're interested, Monroe Institute, there's ways
to do it. Journey's out of the body, it's this guy
sort of talking about what it's like.
And that was my experience with it.
I could never like do the thing where apparently
you can fall asleep and trigger it as you're falling asleep.
I would fall asleep, wake up with sleep paralysis
and then do it.
But it's such a fascinating experience because you get these like I don't
know how to explain it like it feels like you're being electrocuted like these like pulsing waves
start going through your body it's like a vibration and then um yeah and then the next thing you know
you have that experience that Ashley had where you're looking at the back of your head
And then the next thing you know, you have that experience that Ashley had where you're looking at the back of your head
Or you're looking down at your body and it's
fucking Terrifying that's the main thing. It's not pleasant. I didn't enjoy it. It was awful
You just want to get back in your body right away. It's no fun. There's a
ominous presence a lot of people report and I definitely experienced that. A sense
of some watching awfulness. A feeling of not being safe. Now if you look at like other people who
talk about this they're like yeah you're supposed to do all this other shit energy shields and I
don't know woo-woo stuff but if you're me the way you get into trouble with this shit is initially
you don't believe it. That's how I've gotten into trouble with this shit is initially you don't believe it
That's how I've gotten into trouble with this stuff every single time is I don't believe that's real. Yeah, sure I'll listen to these fucking tapes. It probably won't work and then it works. I'm like god damn it fuck. Give me back to my body
So yeah, that's my view on it. It's it's interesting and
The Monroe Institute is interesting. I think there was some collaboration
between the Monroe Institute and the CIA actually,
because they were interested in doing remote viewing,
astral projection as a form of espionage.
It's fucking nuts.
But it might not be the Monroe Institute.
I'm pretty sure that they were doing something with the CIA
because there was a period where they thought the Russians
were developing like
psychic spies and they wanted to like compete. And so they were looking into like ways of using
occult stuff to, which is so cool. Psychic spies, wizard spies, it's the badass.
Yeah, one more super chat. Mr. Martinez. Duncan, do you think this economic meltdown worldwide will help us reach psycheist and develop a new world consciousness or are we fucked?
Ah, Nick. Look, thank you so much. Um,
I'm gonna refer you to Doug Rushkoff, Team Human. He's so good at talking about this stuff.
And I'm probably gonna misquote him here, but like there's a spell
that's been, he didn't say that, this is obviously a spell that's been cast on everyone, right? So
there's all these metrics that we are supposed to associate with our own well-being,
specifically the stock market. Even if you don't own stock, even if you don't have a 401k,
the stock market becomes turbulent,
you get stressed out, what the fuck's gonna happen?
Am I gonna be okay?
Because we've attached ourselves to these
essentially like gaming numbers.
It's a game, it's a game.
It's like being attached to like your,
fortnight numbers, I don't know, I sound old.
It's, it's, it's real. People are, lives are being destroyed by this shit. It's real on one level.
But Rushkoff is
really into pointing out like, but what's actually real? What's actually real is your relationship with your neighbors, your community, your family.
And though you could argue those things
are gonna be impacted by economic upheaval,
which is true, the primary upstream source of happiness
should not be the establishment's depiction of reality
because the establishment's depiction of reality,
because the establishment's depiction of reality only serves the establishment.
And the establishment is an organism consisting of
a variety of corporations who don't give a fuck about you.
And so therefore, though it's not to say,
turn your back on the economy, it's not to say turn your back
on the economy, it's real.
You're gonna have to make decisions based on that probably
in some way or another.
But if that has become, if that,
whatever the particular number is that's freaking you out
is more important to you than your direct contact
with other human beings in your community,
then you have
been hypnotized by the great beast that wants you to worship it.
I mean, I think it's, you could argue it's some kind of idol.
It's a very powerful idol, and it's a lot cooler than some stupid statue of a cat that people are throwing cow guts in front of
but
It's you know, it's got ticker tape or you know moving numbers. Sometimes it turns green
Sometimes the idol turns red and when it's red the droughts upcoming when it's green there shall be rain
It's an idol. And so if you're, but you,
we don't so much offer organic life anymore
because like everything else in the universe,
idols evolve.
The idol only wants your attention.
And it doesn't care what your attention is.
If your attention is anger, hate, panic, fear, great.
If your attention is, wow, I loved it, I'm making money, great.
But you're worshiping a false idol in the sense that the stock market is not going to come over
and knock on your door when smoke is coming out your window. Your neighbors are going to do that.
The stock market isn't gonna come and tell you
you left the trunk open in your car, you dumbass.
Your neighbors are gonna do that.
So creating like a cohesive community
and like doing whatever it takes
to make sure that you have that,
that's the stock market isn't gonna do shit for you
when the power goes out.
And so that's Rushkoff's view as like team human. Like we need to like
realign our value, not with the quantification mechanisms of the great beast. Because if you
do that, then what? You're going to feel bad tomorrow when it turns when those squares turn red you feel good when they turn green
And I'm not saying like dude if I had fucking if I was about to retire
You know any of those things and I had money wrapped up in the stock market
I would be freaking the fuck out right now
But I've noticed that I freaked the fuck out even if I am not directly connected with it just because it wants you to freak out
It's a kind of is inviting you to enticing you to freak out
Then the algorithm amplifies that song of doom and the next thing you know, it's the most beautiful day ever
You feel good. You can walk around you got food in the refrigerator and you feel like a bomb just went off next to your fucking house
food in the refrigerator and you feel like a bomb just went off next to your fucking house.
You probably feel worse than when a bomb went off next to your house because if you'll notice whenever bombs go off or there's earthquakes, everyone comes out and helps each other.
They'll isolate it lonely.
So my view is first commandment.
Is that the first commandment?
What thou shalt not worship don't put any other God before me.
Don't worship false idols.
Is that the first one?
I don't know. It should be. I mean that's...
Anytime you're eating like it's...
the difference between eating fruit versus artificial fruit,
you're gonna get sick if you're eating fake fruit
obviously
So the world presents to you all this artificial fruit and you eat it thinking it's real food
And the next thing you know, you're experiencing existential vertigo. You're lonely. You feel crazy
You're looking to like wolf Blitzer Rachel Maddow or Sean Hannity to tell you whether things are okay
It's gonna get you sick. I only say it cuz I've done it
So I would say
Just shift the focus. You could still enjoy the the the
establishment fireworks show but
Maybe it won't have as much impact on you
Okay But maybe it won't have as much impact on you. Okay.
Nicandro is saying, please run a cult for us.
Who want it?
No, see that's another, deny it.
I'd be your false fucking idol.
Thank you, Nicandro.
I would be a sexy cult leader.
And I would be a banging cult leader.
I'd bang my cult.
I would.
Why be a cult leader if you're not gonna get down
with your cult?
They all do it.
So you're gonna be the one fucking platonic cult leader?
No, I'm sorry.
I'm not buying a fucking ranch in the middle of nowhere,
getting surrounded by sycophantic drug-addled people
and not banging them down.
Like it's crazy.
That's crazy.
But I would never be a cult leader.
I would hate it.
I'm such a recluse.
I'd want to kill him.
I'd kill him.
I get why Jim Jones did that.
See?
You're just like, fuck you all, die.
Poison, I don't want to live anymore.
You're so annoying, leave me alone.
Yeah, no. You don't need any cult leader. You don't need anything like that.
Really
the
constantly
Reacquainting yourself with the world and your neighbors is the way to go, man. Just, you know, find some community somewhere, anything.
Just don't, and be wary of the people
who are worshiping false idols.
You can always tell who they are
because they're using these fucking establishment metrics
to determine whether the world is good or not.
It's like the world is the world.
It's neither good or bad.
It's a fucking seismic piece of shit.
Earthquakes, volcanoes, atmosphere, it gets fucked up.
Like emissions, meteors impacting. You're not going to find any solace there. Beautiful.
I didn't mean it's horrible. I love the world. But you know what I mean. So stop looking
to the world for some sense of peace or solace and then when you're looking at
secondary or tertiary echoes of like
Shifting cultural events that we could just pull up a picture of one of those Mayan pyramids
On the middle of nowhere jungle shit growing on top of it. No one even knows what the fuck that was for
People spent so long building that thing
No one even knows what the fuck that was for. People spent so long building that thing.
People used to bring their babies up on top
and drive daggers through their fucking hearts
and it all made sense.
Now no one gives a shit.
No one gives a shit.
There's snakes in there, birds, bird shit.
It's covered in bird shit.
There used to be regal-robed priests
that at certain times of the year
would climb up the steps
in some dignified way and seeing some weird hem to some unknown God and then drive a dagger
through a baby's fucking chest and they never thought one day
One day this is gonna be covered with weeds
No one even know what it is the parents the baby like ah my child was chosen
No one even know what it is the parents the baby like ah my child was chosen
They weren't thinking like one day Mel Gibson's gonna make a fucking movie about your dumbass
Make you look like a dummy
And so that's what happens is like you get too caught up in the Empire and next thing you know You're you're just caught up in bullshit even though the world's covered in ruins
an old tipped over statues and scroll fragments
Written by somebody who really thought that the fucking pharaoh was important
And Paul and bricks made sense
Then you are in the world you go ahead and build your fucking pyramids. Just don't take it so seriously you can't
No one's gonna give a shit
No one's gonna give a shit.
No one cares. I'm not saying the obvious empires collapse,
but I mean, just look at early America versus now.
Look at, before it was America.
It'll be something after America.
It'll be something after Europe or Germany or Russia.
And all these puffed up old fucks in suits.
No one will give a shit about them.
They won't even look at him in the way we look at Hitler. There won't be nothing.
They'll just be some old shitty photographs and be like, I don't know, basically a monkey. Bomb monkey.
Why do people listen to the bomb monkeys?
It'll be like that and then no one will even talk about him anymore. So don't get too caught up in it. Your fucking adrenal gland will get all messy.
You'll beep at people in traffic.
You don't need to beep at, you'll have fear shits.
Have those gross old fear shits.
If you're gonna have a fear shit, have a fear shit
because someone's trying to get in your house.
Shit your pants.
Not because Rachel Maddow said something sad.
I gotta go.
This was so fun.
Thank y'all so much.
Everyone, thank you for being here.
I can't believe, 523, holy shit.
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Thank you to all my dear subscribers.
Thank you everyone for listening.
I'll see you next time.
Hare Krishna.