Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 682: Ian Fidance
Episode Date: April 18, 2025Ian Fidance, a cool guy who did nothing wrong on the subway (and brilliant & funny person), re-joins the DTFH! Seattle family! Duncan is coming to the Capitol Hill Comedy Club & Bar, April 2...4-26. Get your tickets now! This episode is brought to you by: Visit trueclassic.com/DUNCAN to save. Shop now and elevate your wardrobe today. Give all the “moms” in your life a unique, heartfelt gift you’ll all cherish for years—StoryWorth! Right now, save $10 on your first purchase when you go to StoryWorth.com/Duncan! This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/duncan and get on your way to being your best self.
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with one of my dear friends,
Ian Fydance is such a cool guy. He's so brilliant and funny and and yeah
I know the subway thing that you guys are probably all thinking about the trouble he got in recently
Might make you not want to dive into this but I'm telling you
the story you've heard about the New York subway event is
The story you've heard about the New York subway event is not what happened. And I invited Ian on the show to set the record straight about what happened between him and
the body and all that.
So if you please have an open heart and open mind and just know that sometimes the media
slants things. And everybody, please welcome to the DTFH, Ian Fydans. Don't forget the lube. I don't use the lube. I will move.
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So, Josh, could you please pull up a man has sex with corpse on New York subway.
I was in a bad spot, okay?
And I've apologized.
I'm having you on the show
because I want you to like not be canceled.
Thank you. And I know that your angle on this is,
is different than what people think and it's easy to misunderstand a thing like
that.
And it's tough when the story gets out there and I can't control the narrative.
Now, yeah, first of all, I want to say you're disguised. Okay.
Autopsy on corpse that was sexually violated on a NYC subway train,
unable to determine cause
of death.
So but before we get to-
I have an idea.
Okay, now you can cut that.
The victim was already dead when an unidentified necrophiliac had sex with his corpse at the
Whitehall Street Station on April 8th. So now,
let's talk a little bit about what you're doing now. Because I think a lot of times people get caught up
in the past.
And this happened on April 8th,
that might've was well been a million years ago.
Because what is time?
It's a construct.
So-
It's a flat circle.
As you say.
And so, since then, we talked on the phone
and you were telling me some things you're doing
to make amends for this.
Yeah.
First of all, I'm in Austin and that's very cool
and I'm happy to be here.
I am gonna be staying here for a little while.
Yep.
So you moved to Austin.
I'm just tired of New York.
It's a lot.
But I'm saying more specifically,
like, you know, obviously people are shocked
because they thought of you as many things,
but they probably didn't think of you as a necrophiliac.
Right.
But I'm doing a documentary on Norwegian black metal.
Okay, there you go.
And so that is kind of a part of that genre,
is necrophilia and you know,
I don't know if you know like black metal,
like in the 90s they were setting churches on fire.
Yeah, I do know that.
And so I am down here doing a little research.
I might wanna dive in to get some of the project
going again.
I think Ian, maybe you're missing the force
for the trees here.
People when they hear that you,
and I'd love to hear exactly what happened there.
Maybe you just tell the story.
So you're on the subway and you see a dead body.
Yes.
And I mean, a lot of times, you know, when something when someone gets arred, they
go, what were they wearing? You know, like they deserve it.
This guy was just sitting there.
Well, what are you supposed to do?
He's dead. I thought it would be funny to I had a friend on the train and I thought it'd be
funny to grab the dead guy's dick and be like, oh
You know and so yeah, okay. So this was see now. This is the lame stream media. Yeah, well not
When I'm reading this article there you are in your disguise when I'm reading this article
What I don't see is a mention of like, you know, this was like no they get they get it wrong. It's like, I thought Elon said comedy was legal again,
and then you go and do some prop comedy
and then I'm the asshole.
Boom, and then they turn on you.
Yeah.
So, okay, now I think people are probably,
I can already feel it in the ether.
People are like, ugh, fooled again by the media.
So, you,
It's a bit.
You're on the subway subway you see a corpse and
What would you do? Well, I mean you're underground you can't call 9-1-1 honestly
I don't think I'm as funny in the moment. You're with your bros. You're laughing. You're having fun
I think I'd freeze up because you know, I think there's so many funny things you can do in that moment
Mm-hmm. And well what another thing I did and they say it's defiling
But I thought again, like,
you know, when you put someone's arms behind your back and then you put your arms through
them.
Yeah.
And then you are the arms.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did that.
And I thought it'd be funny.
Like, oh, I'm going to jerk off and finger my own ass.
And then again, it's like, I'm the jerk off.
You weren't the one who finger you.
You just know,ered the corpses.
Yes. Like, isn't that funny if a guy was dead and like, you know, you're like...
Verifiably funny. Old school funny. The funny we lost.
I'm a zombie.
We lost this level of funny. This was, this used to be the 80s.
Yes.
In the 80s, Chevy Chase did that.
Yes.
Didn't he do that to...
It's not like I put a hole in a wall at a girl's gym and then I look through with my buddies and not one on a quest to lose our virginity. I
this I mean I this is old and I'm sorry this is dated but there was this uh,
Very funny movie called caddyshack with a gas most people aren't familiar with anymore and in Jim Belushi and
Jim Belushi he was in county check John Belushi John Belushi and uh Jim Belushi he was in County Shack? John Belushi. John Belushi. He was in County
Shack or your animal house? Animal house I'm sorry yeah yeah so I'm getting my hilarious muses.
What Animal House and County Shack both have in common is they're created by National Lampoon
yes but also what they have in common is in Caddy Shack Bill Murray apparently found a corpse
in Caddyshack, Bill Murray apparently found a corpse in the forest and they found Bill Murray,
I don't know, he's putting clown makeup on the corpse
or something, which is, but yeah, John Belushi,
in Animal House apparently found two corpses
and he did a whole human centipede thing
and that is where they got the idea whole human centipede thing and that is where they got the idea
from human centipede.
Dude, honestly, Bill Murray is my be all end all of comedic actors and to know that I didn't
even know that and I instinctually go to defile a corpse under the guise of humor is like...
It feels good.
It feels good and it feels bad that people just got it wrong with me.
Like, people say they just hear defiling corpse necrophilia and it's like, dude, also when
I had the arms behind him and I was like, oh, I'm jerking off.
I put my dick in his ass and I went docking engaged.
Like I was controlling, you know, like an alien is like, this is how I control a body.
Yeah, docking engaged
docking engaged
My god, I'm in control friend must have been laughing there. Oh my god
Yeah, and I'm waiting for him to fucking come out my defense, but it's like people are so scared of getting cancelled
Nobody is willing to go to bat for anyone anymore. I guess discussed. Okay. Look I think look, I think now I mean, I knew I've already talked to you about this.
And so, you know, this is why I invite you on the show.
But I guess the last thing to address
is that. You took his penis home.
That's funny. Like,
now I have a prop at home. Use as a thumb hey what's up oh you got
my thumb no it's a dead man's penis egg on your face yeah there you go I mean
this I mean and clearly I had to take it with me to Austin because apparently
they're searching my apartment which I think've been looking at my cat cam.
My cats are fine.
Yeah, like I said, I'm chilling down in Austin,
doing moon tower, blah, blah, blah, life is life,
just going along.
Keep on trucking.
I'm not gonna let my past define me.
And I'm not gonna let things that happened in my past.
How many days ago was that?
It was not even 10 days ago.
100 years. People change.
100 years.
And I'm not gonna let that dictate my actions in the future.
So it's just life moves on.
And so I'm moving on and I'm looking for apartments here.
And, you know, anybody got an apartment?
Well, I know in the past you have offered to let me crash.
Unfortunately, yeah, I was hoping I was going to buy.
Still, I'm so I
Totally forgot to tell you this but the you know funny would be if we were at dinner with your family And I was like this isn't sausage. It's a dead homeless
And then I'll just put it back in my pocket
where I keep it.
Dude, listen, I had a talk with the bank
who gave us the mortgage,
and I guess there was a thing in the mortgage,
I didn't even know it was there,
and I didn't even know that this was a thing you could do.
I thought when you bought a house,
you could just see anyone who wanted to come and stay could stay
But yeah, apparently
uh, like
For two more years
Only our family is allowed to stay in the house and that sucks or you know, that's weird. That's the house. What about
Where you record and this is where our quijote should probably let you stay here
Is that cool? And then I could just do sets at black rabbit. There we go.
Yeah. Yeah. Is that cool? Yeah. Really? Yeah. There you go.
Backroom right over here. Oh dude. There you go. Thank God.
Cause I came down here. I didn't have a plan. I only have a bag.
And dude, think how cool that'd be if like,
like that could be a selling point for black rabbit is there's like a real,
you could like a, a, a, a side black rabbit is there's like a real you could like a
side show before the show like and now
And also your fit with a dick the rainy street rippers still running around you guys it's like fresh supplies
Like if you think the penis gag with the homeless guy on the subway is funny What do you see what I do with a dead corpse of a twink that went out to a gay bar and then he got killed by a man who's killing
homosexuals because he's secretly homosexual? It would be funny. It's so cool Austin has become
such a hotbed for comedy. Yeah. This is the place to be. We had the rainy street, now we got you.
It's like who's next? There's so there's so many great comics are part of yeah
I can't I mean the motherships like across the street
I've been going there every day just asking Rogan if I can go on and tell my story, you know
Wag wag wag
You know, I think the problem a lot of comedy I did
He is a lot of security guards are like big strong. And when I went, hey, let me in,
I tapped the penis on his chest.
They didn't like that, but.
Well, it's not that they didn't like it.
It's that again, like because we live
in essentially a police state,
there are like laws saying that you can't disfigure a corpse.
Yeah, but I'm keeping it on ice.
It's not like it's like decaying.
Dude, listen, you're preaching the choir here. Like, but I'm keeping it on ice. It's not like it's like decaying. Dude, listen, you're preaching the choir here.
Like, but I'm just-
I mean, I thought that was a place
where it's like no holds barred funny.
And I'm like, I could do the penis wag thing there.
Cell phones are in a bag.
Listen, people like you are pushing back and it's working.
Yeah.
I feel like we're a year, two years away
from any comedian being able to carry around a penis in their pocket.
A severed penis, thank you.
Yeah, I feel like we're close to what we had.
I mean, this is the same conversation
people had with Kaufman.
Oh, I know. He loved that severed penis guy.
It's like I'm doing like the Tony Clifton.
Like I'm not really a necrophilia that goes around
and fucks dead people under the guise of humor I'm a guy that's yeah doing high
concept art and it's like I'm suffering for it but you know that's why I'm
having you on look no I appreciate it you know the the people just sort of
have conversations and you know the squirting flower on the label mm-hmm
you know what that used to be before history got whitewashed?
That used to be a baby penis.
Shhh.
And you would be like, do you want to smell my baby penis?
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Joking aside that news story yes
The first like I did think of you not that you did it but you're one of my friends in New York. Yeah.
And so like in Hinduism they say the era that we're in right now is called the Kali Yuga. The Kali Yuga. The age of
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Did that necrophiliac think to himself in that moment
when he saw the corpse?
He's like, holy shit, I just started reading The Secret.
This is, the stars are aligned.
But you know what I mean?
Like when you, when you.
Yeah, but if you take this news story
and then you tie it in with everything else
that's going on and I did you watch that Netflix documentary about the kid influencers?
Not yet. I don't want to watch.
I don't want to watch it.
Truly, truly evil.
So tell me about it, because I just I hate watching now that I have kids.
Yeah. Watching shit like that's scary.
It's a psychotic mom that was basically
dolling up her daughter to make the ex-husband jealous.
Look how successful the daughter is without you.
We're succeeding without you.
And then it turned into, she basically
mediatrained the daughter from birth to be good on camera
and then scouted out this girl's friends and family,
like cousins, to live in a content house as
kids and make content and then off camera the kids are crying and it's like no do it
again and then at the same time the majority of the people watching this content are fucking
pedophiles and the mom doesn't care because it gets clicks and likes it's like that is
what's what's more evil, fucking a dead corpse or
pimping out your children for likes, clicks and shares and robbing them of their childhood
so that they can be involved in this nefarious era of narcissism and me me me. And then that
kid is completely fucked and has a fucked up relationship with reality for the rest
of their life. Right. What's what. But But all these things in tandem are the caliuga of like, it's common. It's there.
Well, it's selfishness, right? I mean, what you're looking at is like these extreme mutated
versions of hyper selfishness, you know? That being said, not to keep like dwelling on the core subway necrophile
We don't know the whole story. Mm-hmm. So it that could have been his friend. He's like dude
I'm a benefit of the doubt guy on the subway. I'll be there
Will you please come please?
Yeah, but the that's a kinnison joke. Hey, I know I fuck you when you're dead
Yeah, is that really a good is a joke?
Okay, so the
the what you're talking about is
Really fascinating me because you know the history of children and new innovations
they always get the short end of the stick, right? Like, children working in factories.
Right.
Right?
Like, whenever there's a new thing, the Industrial Revolution happens,
the kids, you just, no one even thought back then.
No one thought you shouldn't send your kid to work in a fucking factory,
where they're all, the kids just fall in.
Yeah, but it's like, at the time, what else are kids gonna do?
Kids get some out of trouble. I don't know, what are they gonna do? Working in. Yeah, but it's like at the time, what else are kids gonna do? Kids are out of trouble.
I don't know, what are they?
Working in a factory, making friends.
Yeah, having bad pals.
And you know, you see these pictures
of these soot-covered kids after a day.
Ripping cigarettes.
Ripping cigarettes.
They've worked harder in their eight years
than I ever have in my entire life.
In this hell realm environment,
and you just realize, it's never that great for kids
in the sense that you, it just depends on what,
there you go.
Look at that little guy.
Kids in the month.
Hey, I'm smoking a pipe, I'm sore.
Having a yolk pipe before I go down in the mines.
Arrrr!
Arrrr!
Nothing like the coal down here.
The coal on my face is blacker than anybody.
I've yet to grow.
There's the pipe boy again with that is so funny.
The pickaxe weighs more than him.
Those are cool.
I want to hang out with those kids.
If I was also a kid now, I'm realizing I'm older than a kid
and I wish I didn't say that but then so click on the color
picture that is now now we like to imagine that's anything's different and it's like now we've got these kids
Digging the pictures a little too black and white if you know what I mean look up child labor and lithium mine. Oh
Yeah, I
Mean truly now it's never been easier to be alive at the same time throughout the world
There's more people enslaved now that ever There's more child labor than ever.
People are living in absolute squalor and suffering now more than ever.
But in certain parts of the world, it's like, Hey, it's easy, breezy,
beautiful covered.
You know, like click, click the kids in the river there with like scooping up
mud to the side, Josh, the very far right. Like you see that picture that's up there, France 24.
Josh, are you high?
No, it's not. It's like it's got to be fresh.
You see that? Yeah, that that just click on any of the pictures.
Who cares? People know I'm talking about.
And for those of you listening, it's just what you expect.
It's kids digging around in some horrific place.
Anyway, the point is.
The the Kali Yugauga is not quite what people expect
because, oh, that's a good picture.
What is that?
Hey, is that, what is that, a protest?
Let's click on that protest.
It's a line for a water slide.
Yeah, there you go.
Good God.
Here it is better not to be boring.
Cobalt mining for big tech
is driving child labor deaths in the Congo.
So now, if you think about the history of slavery,
the idea is you would human traffic these people
to do work in the West.
Now, it works differently.
You're not gonna call it slavery, even though-
I mean, now in the West, nobody wants to work anymore.
Well, that's the reason.
The reason why is because the technology that we have
that is making life so convenient.
Being fueled by these poor fucking children.
It's just because it's like, it's a different model.
You can distance yourself from it a little bit,
meaning that you can, non-ironically,
post a sanctimonious Instagram message
about whatever your environmental message is to the world
or your cultural message is to the world,
and ignore the fact that there are bits and pieces
in your phone that were
dredged out of some hell mine by kids in the Congo. And that's the Kali Yuga. The Kali
Yuga is we figured out a way to create a little bubble over here. You don't really see it.
It's not like you're going to see CNN, Fox or anybody being like, and let's cut to our
life, camera, the lithium mine. Thank you children for giving us the technology.
We've got a four year old wearing a GoPro on their head.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Show us what's going on.
Oh, it looks like he fell in a crack.
Shit, get the GoPro.
But this is the, you know, this is the call you,
and so we're seeing all these horrors that are,
I mean, really like. But have not these horrors that are, I mean, really, like,
but have not these horrors been existing since the dawn of time?
And isn't the idea of evolution and expansion to get away from them?
I mean, isn't that just evolution to evolve to a point where you don't have to,
I mean,
anxiety is an evolutionary trait that helped us survive.
And we've gotten away from where we get anxious
to let us know that there's a bear near us.
And then now we get anxious if we have
like an awkward conversation.
You know, it's like, isn't that the goal though
to evolve past pain?
No. But Now we're
evolving to where our life is easier and it's based off the pain of others, but isn't that something that you can't control?
Well, I think that so I think in my thinking about this
problem, you know, like I'm
I'm driving the kid to school today
problem. You know, like I'm driving the kid to school today. He's like, do you like flamingos? I'm like, yeah. And I just saw some video of penguins. I'm like, I like penguins too.
And but I didn't tell him that the video that I saw was on Neil deGrasse Tyson's channel.
And he was pointing out, you know, the reason these penguins are so clumsy is because they have no natural
predators. There's no natural selection happening on land. They have no natural predators on
land. So on land, they'll just waddle up to you. They don't, you know what I mean? Whereas
like you see the way squirrels behave.
Aren't penguins predators like seals?
But not on land.
Oh. So in the ocean, look at it.
We look at a penguin in the ocean.
They're fast, sleek, made for the sea.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because they had to get that way.
Because if you're not, you're going to get fucking eaten.
Yeah, and then on land it's da da da da da da da da da.
Hey, the other guy's da da da da.
Boingy boingy.
I look like a nun.
So in that narration or commentary he was doing,
he's pointing out what we're talking about,
which is if you want clumsy penguins,
then make it so that they're completely safe
and you're gonna get some clumsy fucking penguins
via natural selection.
You're gonna get some clownish silly birds.
And the moment any kind of new predator
emerged there, like if some asshole just dropped off
a couple of honey badgers or something,
a male and female honey badger, that's it for penguins.
They're gonna rip through those fucking penguins.
So we've gotta train penguins to mine for lithium.
Bingo!
Now you got it. And we gotta go to Anarcha and start clubbing penguins to mine for lithium. Bingo! Now we're gonna go to Anarcha and start clubbing penguins
to train them.
You know how cool that'd be to look at your phone and be like a
fucking penguin mining shit for me and they deserve it because
they're slow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clumsy motherfucker.
So so but you know, my kid said,
I didn't even mention that shit.
And he's like, but sharks eat penguins.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah. And he's like, but sharks eat penguins. And I'm like, yeah, yeah.
And he's like, and that's sad.
And then I fucked up initially,
because I was like, well, I mean, is it sad for the shark?
Like, the shark's probably hungry.
And he's like, oh yeah.
And then I thought about it, I'm like, no, you're right.
That is sad.
What am I doing?
I'm trying to create some Machiavellian like
Child here like no, there was a component of sadness in the natural order of things and how to
Mitigate that and deal with it without you know, fucking everything up in other words, like what are we gonna do?
Let's imagine if we had police in Africa, but there were animal police. And we made it illegal for the lions to eat gazelle.
We found a way to create-
To keep the gazelle safe?
To keep the gazelle safe,
we discovered a way to easily grow plant-based gazelle meat
that we drive around and throw it to the lions.
And anytime a lion's about to get a gazelle,
we have some mechanism, a taser, I a lion's about to get a gazelle,
we have some mechanism, a taser, I don't know,
to protect the gazelle.
You will create fucked up gazelle and fucked up lion
the moment you do that.
I guess I wanted to ask, when do you introduce
the concept of sadness to a child?
Because you need sadness to grow.
Pain is a fertilizer for growth.
And it's like, I think what we're seeing
is people are living in a safer time now more than ever.
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Like my age, like, yeah, no one in my life's ever died.
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Like, I can't believe this is and it's like I
Don't know. I mean I have a warped view of it because my dad died when I was eight
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I don't know.
And I think a lot of people are softer now more than ever. And they are
these gazelles that have been manipulated to where they the lion doesn't come after
them. And it's like you need the lions to make the gazelle tougher. You need pain and
suffering. You need to be on your own. You need to be walking around and face the world so that it'll harden you for the
realities of life later. And I feel like you either have one way of looking at it. Those
things make you harder and make you more empathetic and understanding and give you better perspective
or it angers you and makes you have a chip on your shoulder towards the world. I don't
know the answer. I only know what happened to me and I had that anger for a while and I kind of
evolved past it, but it took a while.
But is that not life?
The struggle and the battling your way through to get to the other
side? Well, you know, the, I also have a myopic view of it.
I can only see things through my eyes.
And I try to get in the dead dad club, you know, you live in a different world.
Like once you, once you, and it is a designer, like there's a designer reality that people
live in.
And the designer reality is based on whatever the algorithm is serving you.
So and whatever your social media platform is, and whatever algorithm they're using, it produces
a designer style reality for you where you via the algorithm have filtered out some infinite
amount of content and zoomed in on some other bit of content.
And then if you look at the ecosystem of the modern human, and by ecosystem I mean like that, the habitat,
and I don't just mean physical habitat,
I think now we can argue that digital space
is a physical habitat.
So you see we roam in certain meadows, I guess you could say.
And so what I've noticed across the board
is that in general, most of the habitat that we're in does not
address mortality in the way you would expect
a mortal species to address it.
So we know there's death, we hear about death on the news,
we make love to corpses on the subway from time to time,
but we don't seem, until you actually encounter it firsthand,
it's very easy to live in a bubble where you don't really think you're immortal.
But via not really addressing the fact that something supersedes
all the cultural machinations that you're obsessed with.
And that is that in some uncertain moment,
someone you love or you are gonna drop dead.
And until you really address that as much as you can bear,
then you will be a wobbly penguin via just that.
And I don't think humans need people chasing them
in the streets or anything to become fully human,
but we already have the most incredible predator
in the universe, death.
It's a modular predator.
It might come as an aneurysm, a heart attack.
You might get beaten to death, stabbed to death,
set on fire, the sun might supernova, nuclear,
but the list goes on and on and on.
But via ignoring that, you think that you are being positive
or that it's a
modeling thing to stare that in the eye when in reality that thing is the
evolutionary force that you must address if you really want to live.
And that's why Neem Kuralibaba would say, love everyone, serve everyone, remember God.
But some people think that he actually meant love everyone, serve everyone, remember you're
going to die.
And that we carry death on our shoulder, meaning that you must live in the consciousness of
how precious human life is and how at any second it could go away.
Yeah, and Dave Matthews said,
eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die.
Dude, and I would, I mean, I can't show it.
I'll get, I would show you my new tattoo,
but again, the media mobs.
I can't show my ball.
That is ridiculous.
Because I have on my remaining testicle,
I have that tattooed.
I love that.
Very small tattoo. I would like to read it like Braille
Dude, it is bread. That's a great idea. Holy shit
I wonder if I could get some kind of Braille implant on my remaining testicle that says
For tomorrow we die
And Dave Matthews man also said don't drink the water and it's like well
You can't pick and choose am I gonna drink the water and die or
He meant piss ah drink if you
Drink well, I'm out on that too. I already already went against that today. Yeah. Yeah, you got it
well, I I you know I I live in this pocket of like it's I
struggle with it because again like you're talking about the natural predator of death and I feel like
And I'm just looking through it through the guys of like annoying whites
I look at like annoying whites and they don't have a lot of death facing them head-on
You think it's just the whites?
Well, I feel like it's it's this twofold thing where a lot of whites look at conflict throughout the world
And they're like this is happening in death,
but because they haven't had death face them,
face to face, nose to nose,
they look at these other deaths as this horrific thing
and it's horrible and it is, but at the same time,
if you've dealt with real death
and real face to face trauma, you're like,
hey, shit happens.
If anything, you learn that it's out of your control, empathize,
but also like there's not really nothing like you can do,
but change the environment around you. And then I look to like,
you know, inner city blacks,
and it's just so fucking heartbreaking that because they are faced with so
many horrific traumas and deaths from an early age and just like the systems
have been around them. They end up becoming like dead eyed nihilists to where it's like,
yeah, nothing matters. And they realize in the education system, they're just pawns.
So it's like, why am I going to do anything but just not give a fuck? And then you're
seeing kids younger and younger be disaffected and then act out in a way that like I mean dude all the
Fucking murders and shootings in New York are like young kids
Yeah
and also they're smart and they know that once they turn 18 all the charges drop because
Everything gets kicked up to child court, right?
And it just pisses me off that you know people being an uproar about you know X Y & Z going on in another country
It's like I guess because maybe I taught and I see like the faces of the kids I taught on all these kids that are
being affected by gang violence in every city and it's like nobody's screaming out for these poor
fucking kids and I think a lot of it is like well I'm not allowed to speak on that because I'm not
that race and I'm like in trouble but it's like that's so fucking heartbreaking. But everybody cares about what
happens to like brown kids in
another country. But when it
happens to black kids and ours,
they're like, well, I'm not going
to touch that.
Yeah. And it's like that is a
horrific thing that's going on
right now.
Yeah. And it seems like people
get in an uproar every once in a
while. But then when like
legitimate tragedy is happening
at their back door, they're like,
wow, there's nothing really I can do.
Well, you know, there's a,
people just don't have community anymore.
And, you know, if you've ever been to like Burning Man,
you realize the horror of war in the reverse,
because you see like why people get really like addicted
to war and why when people come back from a war,
they're like, what the fuck, this isn't even life.
Because one thing that's happening when you're at war
is community, this intense life or death connections
happening with the people around you.
You're experiencing the amazing thing that can happen where, and you see it in sports too, you see when you're experiencing the amazing thing that can happen where,
and you see it in sports too,
you see like when you're watching like
an incredible basketball team and you realize,
oh, that's not one person, that's a group mind.
You're looking at a super organism made up
of a bunch of different people.
They're practically telepathic.
It's synced up and like working together.
And that must feel incredible too.
The feeling of being part of that must be amazing.
And so humans are, we do that.
That's one of the things we do when we're in groups
is we congeal into a group mind.
And so in that experience, when it's positive,
it's transcendent.
It's, you realize like, oh my God,
there's not much of a separation between me and you.
And so when you're looking at like the violent forms
that that takes, I think really what you're seeing is like,
you know, what else is being offered here?
Like people are gonna be magnetized towards something real
and it must feel real to be in a gang.
It must feel real.
And suddenly you get the experience of living
in something that feels more like reality
than the synthetic, you know, padded, nerfed kind of
corpo reality that is being sold to people
as reality reality.
And so I get it.
I think a lot of community comes from this like desire for a pat on the back or just
like a parents love, you know, in the sense of like, you know, a lot of, a lot of, you
know, gangs or whatever.
It's like, you're coming from a single family home.
There's a group of guys that are like, Hey, do this and I'll be proud of you.
And it's like, okay.
Like I think everybody is just,
maybe again, it's through my lens,
but I think everybody throughout their life
is just searching for some form of community
and reinforcement of being loved.
And instead of feeling like the words of I love you,
I love you comes from different forms of action.
Like being involved in an online community,
you get that affirmation through like a like or a share.
Like, and a lot of times it's negative,
but it's still that reinforcement of, you know,
if you're like all shitting on something
that is a net positive because you're all working together
to shit on this one thing,
even though the thing you're doing is negative.
And it's just reinforcement of like, you're liked, you're all working together to shit on this one thing, even though the thing you're doing is negative, and it's just reinforcement of like,
you're liked, you're welcome.
And it's a matter of finding your community,
but finding a positive community,
and that's so much harder than finding the base negative
and then bonding over that.
Does that make sense?
Oh yeah, and where I get woo-woo with this line of thinking
is that,
fine, you found a community.
You found people who, I don't know,
collect stamps or whatever, crochet
or whatever the fuck it is.
And that's fine.
But I feel like that going back to what we were talking about earlier,
which is if you want to look at the real they live reality that we're in, remember they
live?
You put the glasses on, you could see what they eat, consume.
So you catch a glimpse of that, anyone will.
But you don't wanna believe that could be true.
You don't wanna believe that you're just a herd animal.
Manipulating a cog, yeah.
So you seek the solace of something that would,
instead of deny that is happening, make that seem okay.
To deal with the cognitive dissonance.
And so to get back
to being a happy consumer versus a paranoid consumer, someone who's like, something doesn't
seem quite right here. And so those communities like that will form. And but I think that
step number one is stop ignoring the reality of things,
even though you don't have to tell anyone
you're thinking these things, by the way.
In fact, maybe it's better not to,
but if you've caught that glimpse, that's good.
Don't be afraid.
But then step two would be a simple question.
Is this all there is?
Is there just these mortal, easily manipulated beings
on the planet that are being puppeteered
by increasingly effective technological propaganda
to step in line and harmonize in a way that's safe
for the power structures that exist, is that all there is?
Is that all there is?
Is it?
And then that's where you go into nihilism.
And actually, nihilism serves that force more than anything, because if really that's all
there is, if there's nothing after this, nothing but for it,
then fuck yeah, dude.
Get what you can while you're here.
Profit, fucking enjoy.
And, cause really you're just a mode of sentient meat
floating in the void of space, blah, blah, blah, blah,
in this mode of thinking, well, who does it serve?
It serves oil companies,
because it's like, yeah, fuck the environment.
Who cares about anything?
What the fuck, none of this matters anyway.
What the fuck?
Well, wasn't that like the 80s?
They had no forward thinking.
It was just like now, now, now.
Greed is good.
Yeah, and now we're suffering all the consequences.
So I think if you can successfully argue
that we live in a godless void,
and I'm not saying you need a theistic point of view
to have any kind of humanist morality,
but it doesn't hurt.
But if you can successfully argue that,
then I think the next question becomes,
well then what is the idea here?
What's the point of this thing, right? And so somewhere along the line,
some version of hedonism takes precedent over service, over helping, or most importantly,
it's like having this incredible Wi-Fi connection in your brain, which is the connection to
the transcendent metaphysical superintelligence that I think all of this stuff exploded from
and not using it.
So if you're not picking up the phone, there won't be a next step for you other than like
trying to scratch an itch in the wrong place.
And that is buying shit, getting those likes, fucking as much as you possibly can.
All the things we all try to do.
It's great. I say, go for it. I tried. I tried.
And it does distract you for sure.
And I'll create a lot of drama to distract you even more.
And that's really good.
If the if you don't want to confront the reality of your inevitable annihilation,
what better than eating someone's ass for a few hours on MDMA
and then getting an argument with them after about how you don't listen?
You know, man.
So so to me, I think step one is a deep, honest,
nonpublic internal interrogation, asking yourself, is there anything other than me? Is there a higher intelligence? And then reach out to that.
And then via that, something else will start happening that you can't predict.
Because, and then that leads you into certain situations and communities that have a focus
not on the temporary, fleeting, transient,
worldly phenomena and on something else.
And there's so many different forms of that out there.
And that I think is where you start really
experiencing the kind of liberation you are seeking
in all the other forms.
Well, that, what you just mentioned and spoke about,
that's like the main tenant of,
and I'm just gonna say it because I think it's important
to make people aware that there's a place to go
that's better, but that is like the main tenant
of Alcoholics Anonymous and Programs of Recovery.
That is exactly the backbone of all of that is to get
out of self, privately look with a clean lens at all of the garbage and everything that's going on,
cleanse yourself of it with the higher purpose of helping someone else do the same. And in that,
that's like, like the main goal of AA is to maintain a conscious contact with a higher power.
And that's just some, that turns people off and people go, God, no, I can't.
But it's almost like that higher power is that higher form of consciousness of
living every moment in the now and taking in and figuring out how can I take
this moment to serve someone else?
And that's so hard to do because all these distractions and sometimes you grab it and
you hold on to it and it feels so good. But then it's so fleeting, but you almost have
to let it flow through you and then, okay, this again. And that's like, I never feel
better than when I'm helping someone else. And when I am not talking about me
and not obsessing about me and not obsessing about that,
but when I'm in this moment and I almost like,
dude, when I was teaching and I was explaining something
and like it clicked with a student,
I would get this chill from the tip of my toes
to the top of my head. And I got that feeling, I would get this chill from the tip of my toes to the top of my head.
And I got that feeling when I would take my first sip of alcohol. And I got that feeling when I would,
you know, when you like rip a new tag on a joke on stage, or like something comes out the right way,
and I would get that same feeling. And I get that same feeling when I help someone else.
And we make that connection. And I think the goal is to always maintain that connection. But in order to do that,
you have to rip out all this sludge and get rid of those distractions. But what you just
said is like so important and the goal, but it's so hard because you have all these outside influences. But if you can like,
whap, whap, whap, whap, whap, whap, whap, whap, whap,
block them off and then maintain that conscious contact
with a higher being, higher purpose, higher feeling,
I think that is, like, I never feel better
than when that's going on.
And I always feel better when I leave a meeting
than when I walked into it.
And I want, with my standup, for people to leave feeling better than when they came to
the show.
And I feel like those are things when I feel it and I grab onto it, I feel infinite.
And then it slips through my hands and I concentrate on the fact that it went away.
But it's like, it always come back.
Yeah, it'll always come back. It'll always come back.
But for me, I feel like that's such a better service of time
to be constantly trying to bring it back to the now
and not now me, but now you.
How can I serve this?
How can I serve that?
Like being around you is such a joy
because you immediately
bring it to the other person with like a,
you can feel this energy.
And this is such a little thing,
but I'll never forget one of the first times
we were texting, you used a bunch of exclamation points
to show like excitement.
And I was like, this feels good.
I can understand that they're excited
and I believe that they're excited.
And so now I try to do that. And it's not what you can take away, but what you can bring.
And I try to bring a good energy. But then on the other hand, when I'm alone, I like
just sulk and I need to work on having that when I'm alone, because when I'm alone is
when I'm in a bad way. Yeah. But when I'm around others, I feel like so good.
And I've looked to you for how to do that because I see the energy you bring to other
people.
Well, thank you, man.
And also your constant search for consciousness and contact with something out there rather
than self.
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Thank you, Byron. Basically, like, you know, I was hurting really bad.
And I call the story footprints.
I was hurting really bad.
And I was looking back at the footprints from when I was hurting really bad, and I only
saw one set of footprints.
Where was Jesus's footprints, right?
And so then ran into Jesus up the beach.
And I'm like, hey, you know, when I was feeling really bad,
I noticed that you seemed to have split
because I only saw one set of footprints.
And Jesus said to me,
actually those were my footprints
because I was carrying you.
And I said, well, honestly though,
if we go back and do a forensic analysis
of the two sets of footprints,
you'll see I'm a 10 and a half.
And the other set of footprints which is your yours is or a
Twelve thank and God you just turned it to funny
I went off on this fucking what's for it's a diet drive. No you know I love you. No, I'm gonna get back to it I
Know now listen listen
I said to Jesus.
Yes?
Now look.
What'd you say to Jesus?
Well, I said, let's take a look at these footprints.
And I had some of my friends come out
from the movie industry.
We did molds.
And I was able to prove verifiably
that in fact, those were my feet.
This is quite a dream.
Those were my feet, not Jesus's feet.
I was walking alone and it appeared,
I'm like, so you are gaslighting me?
And he's like, I'm God.
I split you into two people and you carried yourself.
And I woke up weeping, you know?
And from that dream, I learned something.
Yes. Weeping. You know? And from that dream I learned something.
Sometimes Jesus has the same size shoes as me.
But Ian, I…
Anywhere is Nike Monarchs.
Air Monarchs.
Yes!
I do thank you for saying that.
And it means the world to me.
And my feeling these days is that people,
everyone looks at the world,
there's so many people who are so sad right now.
And they're so-
Justifiably so.
Yes.
And, but I understand why.
And it's not just the set of phenomena.
It's the nihilism.
It's that, you know.
Could you call it narcissistic nihilism?
I think nihilism and narcissism go like
peanut butter and jelly.
It's like, again, if we're gonna live in an empty,
and it is delicious,
but if we're gonna live in an empty—and it is delicious—but if we're going to live in an empty, like, non—if we're going to live in a void of consumerism, and you are fully certain of this, then what else do you have but yourself?
And why wouldn't you worship yourself? It's the only thing you're making contact with in this infinite void.
And so of course, all the things that we look at
and feel bad about in other people,
when you really sort of trace that,
we follow it upstream, you realize,
well, everyone is being just bombarded with data that has an agenda and the agenda is
inevitably based on some state model or some corpo model that's trying to get you to act
in a certain way to make money.
And this is a, it's like, look at the stock market.
Oh my God.
Do you know Abby Hoffman is, Abby, I think it's,
will you look up Abby Hoffman activist?
This is one of the funniest.
Oh, I thought this was the girl from Love on the Spectrum.
Dude, I've gotta watch it.
Bro. Is it good?
It is so heartwarming and wonderful.
And I want the love that they experience with each other.
It's such an innocent, joyful, whoa, what's this?
That's Abbie Hoffman.
He is a social activist.
And so one of the most amazing things I've ever heard
of anyone doing is a form of activism.
He went to the New York Stock Exchange
and he dumped bags of money onto the traders.
So all of a sudden in the New York Stock Exchange,
money's falling down.
The traders stopped trading to grab the money
falling out of the air.
And he literally for a few minutes shuts down the New York Stock
Exchange by dumping money on it.
And so that level of culture jamming to me is so brilliant because it's pointing out
that this is idolatry.
And nobody wants to talk about this, it seems like, because we want
to believe we don't live in an age where people worship idols.
But I can't think of a more incredible modern deity than the New York Stock Exchange.
It's a temple.
In the morning at temples, what do they do?
Ding-a-ding-a-ding!
They ring a bell. At night, they ding-a They ring a bell at night. They have the golden
bull. Wasn't that in the Bible? Yes, yes. Like it's a temple. It's a temple and within the temple
there's a god and the god if the god turns green everyone's happy. If the god turns red
everyone's happy. If the God turns red,
people will literally kill themselves for the God.
They'll jump at, just like people used to throw themselves
under the wheels of fucking massive carts carrying deities,
just like the Aztecs did.
Everyone loves to think we're so modern.
When the deity turns red,
people try to fly,
maybe they jump and they shoot and they poison themselves
because the deity is red.
Did his deity turn red because he killed himself?
Well, Diddy.
Whoa.
Yeah, I don't know.
Diddy, bad guy.
Come on, you know I love him so much, dear friend of mine.
But this is like so interesting.
So this is a roundabout way of saying,
like if you don't like the word idolatry
because it sounds antiquated, think in terms of fast food.
If you're eating shitty food, you're gonna get sick
over time.
If you're eating like 7-Eleven hot dogs
for six months straight, I can't even imagine.
I would if I was in Norway.
They have the best 7-Eleven hot dogs in Norway,
Bergen, Norway, shout out.
Yes, I thought it was a joke when everyone,
when I toured Europe, everyone was like,
you have to eat the 7-Eleven hot dog in Norway.
Can you pull up 7-eleven hot dog?
No, it's it's what they're known for. It's you are look that is not I I thought it was a prank
I thought it was like go to the 7-eleven in Norway as for a hot dog you do it then this is like someone saying
There's faster than light travel there. It's not possible. Let's go to Norway now. Hmm. Well, well, yeah
So I'm curious based on the size of the hot dog,
the man's penis, bigger or smaller,
the one that you defiled?
No, why don't I show you?
No, no, no.
Okay, all right, sorry.
Okay, in Norway, 7-Eleven is a common place
to buy hot dogs, often special offers.
Hey, I had done special offers.
Hey, I had to write for AI. Yeah.
It's like, if it's sentient,
imagine being sentient and you have to like do it.
Dude, type in, are 7-eleven hot dogs good in Norway?
I don't buy it.
There's only one way to find out too.
You can't like have one of those shipped.
Yes!
7-Eleven hot dogs in Norway are generally considered
good and popular.
How?
Dude.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You know when you walk into a 7-Eleven,
and I don't blame anybody working at a 7-Eleven
for not keeping up with the hot dogs,
but you walk in there and one's been rolling too long,
and there's that smell of burnt, burning hot dog,
rolling on that fucking thing.
It ain't good.
It ain't good, it ain't good.
But that to me is the upstream problem right now
is that people have been eating 7-Eleven hot dogs,
which is whatever, you know,
the, is being slopped out.
Oh yeah.
And in that story, a new kind of religion emerges
where the self becomes the nexus point of all importance,
which obviously this is a catastrophic philosophy
if we live in a world with other people,
but it's exactly what cancer cells think, you know? all-importance, which obviously this is a catastrophic philosophy if we live in a world with other people, but
it's exactly what cancer cells
think, you know, it's like it's all about me, baby. I got an idea. Hey,
I'm gonna innovate a new way to do this liver thing. Hey, check it out.
And then, you know, next thing you know, you got tumors because some fucking cancer cell wanted to be a ring.
Yes, and so so, you know in the small and in the big it's a fucked up
Mode of being basically a cancer. Well, it's a way to become a cancerous thing and
And in the same way that if you if you have managed to cut yourself off completely from the totality of all things of which
you're a part,
if you don't recognize you're part of a universal superorganism, then the cancer cell also has no, if the cancer cell could think, it's not thinking. Like, I think this is gonna fuck up this body that
I'm part of. No, it's like, hey, check out this reel I just put up.
Yeah, yeah.
Look at this content.
Yeah, yeah.
Cancer turns your body into a content house for tumors.
That's what it does.
Cancer would most definitely take selfies if it could.
You wouldn't need to get an MRI.
You just go to its TikTok and it's like,
look at this, do what I made, it's beautiful.
Cancer's doing TikTok dances while your body's rotting. Yeah. You wouldn't need to get an MRI. You just go to its TikTok and it's like, look at this, do what I mean, it's beautiful.
Dancers doing TikTok dances while your body's rotting.
Yeah.
That's cool.
That thing I've always loved about AA
and the 12 step program is that it's like an emergent
spiritual lineage born from what in the old days,
I think you would call demonic possession, but it's an antidote to
the possession.
Well, it's like this spiritual experience.
That's what you talked about.
The goal is to have this like experience.
And that's the goal to have this like spiritual experience that then you're constantly searching
for by doing the thing that got you there, which is to go through this house cleaning
and then this
helping of other people clean their houses. But also at the same time, it's like people
use psychedelics to experience the same thing. And so it's like, I struggle with whatever
way you get there is good or like, no, you have to do it this way, you know, like, um,
but I think the goal is to have that experience
to then understand that your purpose is not you,
it's for others.
I guess.
What do you mean you struggle with it?
Well, I struggle with like, you know,
like when people are, they're like,
oh, I'm sober, but they like smoke weed.
Or they're like, oh, I'm sober,
but I do psychedelics to like
get me, you know, X, Y, Z. And I'm like, no, you should be sober and go through this through
a spiritual experience through the work. You're taking a shortcut. But then if you look at
the history, a Bill Wilson, you know, did acid to have this experience. And then he
based this work off of searching for that spiritual experience he got through acid. So it's like, who the fuck am I? I have my way and I fail at it a lot and I'm
constantly trying to do it and I'm constantly falling short. And then maybe it's a part of
jealousy where I'm like, oh fuck, I wish I could just do acid and get it. But I'm too worried that
if I were to step out and do a psychedelic that I'd go off on a
fucking bad way, you know? Yeah. And so maybe I always look at like, what am I disliking and why?
And it always goes back to me. I'm disliking something that you're doing because I see it in
me and I'm doing like a like kind of blaming something else rather than looking at me and
going, oh, I need to fix the thing that I don't like in you.
And instead I'm just focusing on what I don't like.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think-
Like everything I hate, I think I see in myself.
And it's easier just to point the blame
than to look at myself and go, fuck, I exhibit that trait.
I've had sober friends.
I've had sober friends in the program
Knowing my love for psychedelics who have you know reached out to me?
Almost like they want me to give them permission to take a psychedelic. Yeah, and I
always say like
if you feel like there's like a
1% chance this If you feel like there's like a one percent chance that this gets you back to the you
that I knew when you were dying, I don't know if it's worth it.
Like that it's a sort of risk to reward thing.
Totally.
You're sober now.
You somehow climbed out of a pit and when anyone who's had a friend get sucked into that pit yeah
it's the most it's definitely on par with watching someone die of cancer or
something it's it's it's maybe more annoying but also with cancer you can go
hey I'll go with you to chemo to address this hey yeah let's go to the doctor hey
you recognize your body's falling apart?
You know that you're gonna go get treatment,
but with alcoholism and addiction,
you're like, hey, I see this thing that is hurting
and I know a way for you to get help.
And they're like, no, get the fuck away from me.
I'm not going to do this.
It's like, you can take a horse of water,
but you can't force it to stop shooting heroin.
Yeah, I tried, I've tried.
What's so awful when your horses get on heroin, dude?
It's a horrible ride.
They fall asleep on the trail.
They nod out.
But someone dying from most other diseases,
you don't have to call them like,
did you steal my car?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm pretty sure you stole my car.
But the,
so, you know, I
always say,
dude, talk to your sponsor about this one, man.
This is not, like, I'm not.
Or just like your sober network.
And that's a very addicty thing.
I'll kick ideas around them,
like my friends that are sober,
and they're like, are you stupid?
Like, no, don't do that.
Like, the last thing was like, I think I'm gonna,
I haven't taken my meds in a little bit,
and I think I'm gonna stop.
This is, it's not good.
I like the way I'm feeling.
And they're like, dude, take a step back, go back on your meds.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, that.
And generally, one of the qualities of addiction behavior
is you wanna blame someone else.
Also, it's you wanna be in the director's chair.
You want everything to be you.
I'm choosing, I'm doing this, I'm doing that. One of the best things I ever things I ever heard in a meeting and I cackled and everyone looked at me like I was crazy. Some guy goes, I'm not working on myself. You know, my favorite song is me, me, me, me, me.
God, it's the worst. It's the worst.
worse. Well, and this is the, uh, but I, I, sorry to cut you off, but I don't do during the pandemic, things got really fucking bad for me. And I looked into mushrooms therapy
and the, the place I found was like, so you get the mushrooms, you do them. And then we
talk about your experience. And I was like, Oh no, I thought I was going to be in a room
on mushrooms
with a therapist like talking me through this.
You're leaving me left to my own devices.
I get to go get a bag, I get to do it,
and then I tell you about it.
That's the most ingenious business model
I've ever heard in my life.
I know, I know.
And they're like, here's a number you can call
to get the mushrooms.
Go get, yeah, oh my God.
Oh my God.
But, you know, all that being said,
I think,
cause I have diabetes and I had to get on a Zempig
for the actual reason.
And seeing how whatever the fuck this is doing
didn't just make it so my blood sugar got back to normal,
but that also the addictive eating patterns I had
just went away. Like, you know, it's lint, my family's off sugar, which is really hilarious for a diabetic
because they're like, just a couple more days and we can have some cake.
And I'm like, oh, great, wow, good job.
Did you make it a month?
I'll die if I eat that shit.
But that's all I am what people do, sober October.
Like, oh, is it tough?
Exactly.
Yeah.
And, but, I make that joke, but the reality is like, I don't care as much anymore. Like, I don't, I can look at Oreos, Skittles, cake,
and not really have the, like, you know,
when there's cookies at the house,
like, there'd be some part of my mind
that knew exactly where they were in the pantry.
And I would look at the cookies and be like,
oh, you're gonna make it like maybe a day.
Oh, yeah.
And so to see how a lot of the guilt and shame
and shit that people who overeat that I was feeling
seems to be mitigated by something in, by a medicine.
It's somehow this fucking thing
is actually, it just reminds me of when I was a kid,
I see it with my kids.
You know what they'll do?
They'll just stop eating.
They'll leave, they'll eat until they're full,
and they're like, I don't wanna eat anymore.
You know, like, you should eat some more
because you're gonna be hungry.
No, I'm not hungry.
And that's how people are supposed to be,
but that goes away, and you eat even, the signals go away to tell you you're full and then so
When you and this is the new conversation around a zempik and all that whole class of drugs is that this is a neurological
Issue that we've been like you fat fucking piece of shit. Why do you eat all that fucking cake?
You stupid and it's like no you don't understand their brain is telling them they're hungry well especially because everything they put in the food is
Definitely manipulating that as well. I mean we all have millions of microplastics in our balls now
It's like I fucking when I die it'd be better to recycle me and put me in the ground
And the brain yeah showing up in the brain. Oh, isn't that wild? And the brain. Yeah. It's showing up in the brain.
Oh yeah, it's everywhere.
It's everywhere.
We're being poisoned at every single turn in our lives,
whether it's mentally, spiritually, physically.
Everything is poisoning us.
And everything we put in our body
is not just content of food.
It's content of ideas and content of content.
And it's like, dude, you got to filter out that fucking poison as
Above so below it's like you see physical manifestations of cultural trends
and I can't think of a better embodiment of the the the
disintegration of
community and culture then
Plastic showing up in our brains. our balls, our gut, everywhere, right?
It's, it's, it's that, that is the physical manifestation of an, of a, of a...
I gotta get some microplastics.
Oh yeah, me too. Jesus Christ.
Yeah, the, the, so that leaves us with what I think is the number one job right now is first do the analysis.
Don't listen to us idiots yapping about this.
Do the analysis yourself.
Watch they live.
You know, do the analysis.
Invest in sunglasses, invest in fucking sunglasses,
do the analysis and then if if or if you've already done the analysis and you're feeling
nihilistic from the analysis, which is the unfortunate walk around with a shotgun and
shoot people you think are aliens.
I'm working up to that dude.
Sorry. Well, no.
Well, the subway fucking necrophot.
You know, I think that's your training, because you just got to the point.
I'm meander and you're like, just get to the fucking point.
You know what we have to do.
There's a war. There's aliens.
They look like humans.
Jokey. Yeah.
Ha ha. Like a dead man's penis in my pocket.
There is a cock in his pocket. It's just not dead
Dude there was a kid in like fourth grade who would cut a hole in his pocket and his girlfriend would come up and jerk
His dick off at the water fountain
Wow, I thought that was so cool. And you know what happened?
Kids dead now.
From what?
Floor in the water.
Put him on a bad path.
Send him down a bad path.
That's how what he thought life was gonna be like.
If you're getting jerked off in fourth grade,
it's like, what else is there?
You've already reached peak feeling.
You're never gonna be able to go to a water fountain
without getting an erection.
Yeah. He's got the weirdest fetish of all time. You're never gonna be able to yeah, you never search at our water fountain without getting an erection
He's got the weirdest fetish of all he's just going up to the airport to get that water in the bottle and he's just like Oh, I'm gonna bust. Why do you have a water fountain in your bedroom?
Thursday night, I just get Thursday night. Why do you carry around a camel backpack? You're going to bars
Weird no, I'm not gonna tattoo a water fountain on my feet
And you're the best man, you're the rapid up moon tower you got shows coming up
Oh, yeah, I'm everywhere man. I'm on the road till you're working your ass off. Do you got so many fucking dates?
That's awesome.
I'm out, man.
I am in Philly, May 16th and 17th.
I am in Rochester, May 8th and 10th.
Uh, the 22nd I am in Charleston, South Carolina.
Then I'm in Atlanta, the 23rd and 24th.
Um, all over Ian finance.com.
So funny.
You're being in Jordan is a podcast out everyone's in YouTube
Which is killing it by the way. Yeah, it's really fun man. You I'd love for you to come and do it in any
Oh, dude, I'd love to I love your podcast. Oh, thanks the algorithm loves your podcast because it's always showing me your pocket
It's really cool. I love it when I feed it's working. It's working. Plastic good. Yes, yes, plastic good.
Awesome. I love you, buddy.
Love you too. Thank you.
Thank you.
That was Ian Fidance, everybody.
Go to his shows.
The link to his podcast is gonna be in the comments,
wherever you find this.
And I love you and I'll see you next week.
Until then, Hare Krishna.
Bye.