Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 693: You're Your Parents' Fault
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Hello, hello, those of you who are here, it's me,
Dung Kong, and it's great to see you here at the DTH Live.
I had a huge revelation on the way over here,
big, big epiphany, which is I'm always gonna be late.
I don't know how I've tricked myself into thinking
I'm gonna be on time for these or any of the things I do online, but I have.
And what that does is it produces a lot of anxiety for me.
So all this insane guilt comes exploding into my brain.
You can't even imagine what it's like.
It's the most neurotic, insane reaction to being late to
anything. Like, I mean it's probably the same feeling a doctor has when their
patient begins to die on the table. It's that, that's how my brain reacts to being
late. And whenever you have a thing like that inside of you, you can be certain
that this was implanted
in you by one of your parents, guaranteed.
And I hate it when people blame shit on their parents, but you have to.
Your DNA, your eye color, all of it, it's your parents' fault.
Your mom, let me explain something to you as we're gearing up to go here.
Your mom and your dad, they crossed paths one day.
You maybe know the story, maybe you don't.
I do know the story.
Your mom, one night, was just kind of sitting
at her apartment and she was watching TV
and a hot dog commercial came on.
And your mom saw that commercial and said to herself,
God damn, I want to suck some big fat cock tonight.
I need to find a big old dick.
And so your mom went out to this dive bar
she used to go to, whatever she wanted to bang
or get banged down.
And your dad was in there just hammered.
He'd been day drinking and his eyes were blurry
from drinking so much and from undiagnosed diabetes.
He'd been having sugary tropical drinks.
And your mom had become so horny
that she was no longer rational.
And so somehow she saw him drinking a tropical drink
with an umbrella and some cherries in it.
I think it was like a Mai Tai or something, not very good.
Your dad didn't like it.
The bartender wasn't good at making tropical drinks
and had been making fun of your dad for hours
for drinking these tropical drinks.
And your dad kept saying to the bartender,
this is as close as I can get to a fucking vacation, man.
You know, I don't have the money to go to Hawaii right now.
I'm a gambling addict.
And so your mom somehow managed to like transform
the vision of your father, his pallid complexion,
his bloodshot eyes and that umbrella into like,
in her mind, she thought it's kind of like Hemingway.
And so she sat down one chair away from him,
she did the middle chair thing,
and she ordered a tropical drink,
because she knew that that would probably
catch his attention, which it did.
And your dad said to your mom,
I guess we're both on vacation, honey.
And she was just so hornyny and she knew she had to be
at work really early in the morning,
you didn't have time to like get in a long bar conversation.
She's like, if you come with me now,
I will just suck your cock all night long.
And so your mom and your dad left the bar,
they walked to your mom's place, which wasn't that far away. And yeah, your mom just blew your dad left the bar, they walked to your mom's place, which wasn't that far away.
And yeah, your mom just blew your dad, but she was so horny.
She's like, you know what, fuck it.
You only live once.
And she climbed on top of your dad and he came within seconds.
And she right after he came said, I'm not on birth control.
And he said, I just got to throw up and he went and he
threw up and that's the story of where you came from. Now because of these the interaction between
the DNA of your father and the DNA of your mother every so many things about you were predetermined.
We've seen the studies that have been done on twins, and it's one of the damnedest things you've ever seen
when it comes to free will.
Don't watch documentaries on twins
if you want to really entertain the notion
that you're some kind of autonomous agent
moving through your life with some kind of free will.
Because twins, they marry like the same person basically.
They find the doppelganger of each other's wives and they fucking marry them or husbands
or whatever.
It's crazy.
They end up in the same jobs.
They're both firemen or bankers or whatever.
And so there you see that much of what we think of as free will
is not quite what we thought.
And don't even get me started when it comes to
when a decision is made
versus when you think you've made a decision.
You think you've made a decision.
You're sitting there at your house
and you think to yourself, you know what, fuck it,
I will have a bowl of cereal, it's 2 a.m.
You think you've been thinking about that,
like really kicking it around in your head.
Maybe I won't, you say to yourself.
Maybe tonight will be the night
I don't have that bowl of cereal,
but you already made the decision.
Neurologically, they can track it.
The decision was made.
You're gonna have a bowl of fucking cereal,
but you've managed to produce a kind of cloud of thought
or before the decision, which gives you the illusion of free will.
You might as well be locked inside of a pale, stubbly Japanese battle robot, except it doesn't
fight Gojiras.
It eats cereal, it jerks off.
That's you, just up there in the very top
of that fucking thing.
And in the same way we will sometimes,
I don't know if they even do this anymore
because of traffic laws, but in the old days,
to get your kid distracted with pre-iPad,
you just, they had these
steering wheels you could stick in the front seat or in the back seat and the
kid would just think they were driving the car. And I know this is real because
whenever I play PlayStation with the kids I'll give the youngest a controller
that's not connected and the oldest a controller that's connected and they
both think that they're controlling the character. They have no idea. And so
this phenomena doesn't end in childhood. It just the character you think you're
controlling is you. And meaning that you shouldn't be hard on yourself in the way
that you probably are. Any more than you should be hard on yourself
if your mom, and she was a shitty driver,
your mom is a shitty driver, horrible driver,
horrible, horrible driver.
And she is, in fact, I would say,
one of the worst drivers ever,
in the sense that she doesn't know she's a bad driver,
she thinks she's the best driver,
and that's the most dangerous kind of driver.
Not only is she a distracted driver,
your mom texts all the time when she's driving,
not only is your mom completely oblivious
to where she is at any given time,
she is constantly lost, but she pretends that she isn't.
Your mom is a liar.
Your mom will make up a reason that she's lost.
She'll say, oh, I just needed to stop over here
because she's kind of a narcissist.
And she can't bear just saying, yeah, I fucked up.
I don't know where I'm going.
That's crazy.
Your mom's like that, but your mom is very good at fellatio.
That's something your mom is so good at.
And so many men talk about it and think about your mom.
Not in any kind of deep way.
They just think about, that was like the best blowjob I had in my life.
Don't be hard on her either.
See now you're thinking, oh my God, is this, I don't want to think about this but don't in the same way that you
Have very little control over what you do
Your mom has very little control over what she did does and genetically she's great at blowjobs
That's something you could take comfort in because this was not learned like some some people learn how to give blow jobs over time,
like a student. And they are experts at it. They study porn. They watch porn. They pick
up in the same way like skateboarders watch skating videos. Some people watch porn. And
they're like, wow, okay, that's a really cool technique. Or that's an evolution of the cup the balls technique
or whatever.
Your mom right out the gate,
like very similar if you've read Frank Herbert's Dune
to Maudib who knew how to put on the still suit.
He just knew, he knew the ways of the desert.
He had not been trained.
He was born on a water planet and yet
somehow completely familiar with Arrakis, the desert planet. This is your mom, the Moideb of
sucking dick. Like just we're talking a combination of things. Genetics from your grandmother, who was also incredible at blowjobs,
and your great-grandmother for generations
of just natural blowjobbing.
But past life stuff too.
In many past lives, in like 50 past lives,
your mother worked at brothels and harems.
And so essentially, we know that in Tibet,
there's two ways of looking at this.
One is the cynical secularist hypermaterialist.
I'm a Westerner, so I know everything
because of my cursory scanning of articles on medium
cursory scanning of articles on Medium regarding science. And you could just say, well, this is just bullshit that there's people who actually will like find
reincarnated Tibetan llamas. They're called tulku's. They'll find these
tulku's, these kids who have this like,
from what I've heard of people who've met these kids, they're not kids. They just seem like
adults. They seem like if you went into a VR game and you decided to walk around as a little Tibetan kid, but you're a 40-year-old or something, they seem like that, except they're not creeps.
They seem like that, except they're not creeps.
But why would that only happen with people who are spiritually advanced bodhisattvas
who are choosing to incarnate in the human realm,
not because of any reason other than to help ease suffering.
Why would that only happen there?
Your mom, she reincarnated here over and over and
over again because she loves giving blowjobs. And in the other planes of
existence, it's not the same. In the realm of the gods, everyone's good at giving
blowjobs and everyone can suck their own dick. In the hell realms, nobody can get
hurt because they're in so much pain. In the animal realms no one appreciates a blowjob. They forget about it because they don't
have the ability to remember in the same way the humans do. So the human realm is
not just the perfect realm to incarnate in if you're interested in awakening,
becoming a bodhisattva, easing suffering, and eventually saying goodbye to the
infinite cycle of birth and death known as samsara.
It's also a great place to incarnate in if you love giving blowjobs. And that's your mom. And
who are we to judge that? You shouldn't. It's your mom. You were woven together in her womb.
You were woven together in her womb. You were there in her womb,
growing, your heart beating,
as she was on her knees in porn theaters,
in glory holes, pregnant, but still doing what she loved.
And I think there's something inspirational in that.
There we go. So, here's what we're going to do guys.
That wasn't really the podcast.
Maybe it should be actually.
That was very scary.
I ate cereal at 2 22 in the morning.
I ate pops after I jacked off.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was very scary.
And then my wife's sister, husband has the same exact birthday as me and we're both kind of calm people. I didn't get what do you think?
Your mom was doing now that part was untrue. So now
So not all there, you know, let me just be woke for a minute here
This prohibition on Let me just be woke for a minute here.
This prohibition on women being great at blowjobs is fucked up and it is the most insane paradox
on earth.
Like, what are we doing?
You're going to shame somebody for that? As a man, you should be ashamed.
If you're shaming anyone for giving blowjobs to strangers,
you should be ashamed.
Because who are you to judge?
Number one, well, I know you,
I know what you did in college.
I don't care.
Call it what you want.
Sure, you're straight, whatever.
I know what you did in college and
You know what you did in college and it's crazy
That you with all those nights are judging the ladies
For for that you should stop because it's anytime you judge them. You're judging yourself implicitly
The difference is there they don't hide it.
What you did, you hide.
You're ashamed of it.
You feel bad.
You're confused.
Who cares?
Let it go.
Drop it.
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I hope you'll forgive me for going off script. The point is, we have to start thinking now, friends, about intelligence.
That's what I'm getting at here because
Right now the the subject of intelligence is
The number one most important topic on planet Earth. It's more important than climate change
It's more important than
Colonizing the moon or Mars. It's way more important than the economy. It's more important than geopolitics.
It's more important than immigration.
It's more important than education.
The subject of intelligence is as important as the study of physics preceding the creation of the atom bomb.
This is the, should be the primary number one focus for globally is trying to understand
trying to understand what intelligence is.
Because right now, as far as I could tell, we don't understand it at all.
We have a really like insane variety
of definitions of intelligence.
And it's insane in the sense that
of intelligence. And it's insane in the sense that it's the primary quality of human beings. It's what separates us from the animals. It's what separates us. It's the number one separator.
It's the thing that makes us special, unique. And it's like the way fish can breathe underwater
But um and fish don't understand what the fuck that is. They don't even know they're on water
Probably unless you're a flying fish
They just that's where you where you are they don't think about it at all because they're fucking fish
But Humans you would like to imagine were somehow a little more advanced than fish.
I don't know if you've ever had a goldfish.
I have.
And like, you know, who am I to ascribe intelligence
to a fish, but I'm pretty sure they're dumb as fuck.
They don't, they just don't strike me as that smart.
And I know I'm trying to humanize fish,
but when I see fish, I just think that's a dumb ass.
Look at it.
It's just expressionless, going in circles,
even in huge aquariums, they still go in circles.
I think the cuttlefish is probably a little smarter.
They seem like clever and kind of shitty.
Each other and like kind
of sociopaths down there. They seem to think it's funny when things are being eaten by sharks or
they just seem like gossipy. But most fish, dolphins, I think sea turtles are pretty smart
actually. But the point is they don't know what's going on. They're not think about that they can breathe underwater. When you catch a fish and pull it onto your boat,
you'll notice what it does.
It flops around because it's like, what the fuck?
I can't why can't I swim here?
It doesn't understand.
It's not in water anymore.
Just like this water is weird.
And so humans, this is our defining quality,
is intelligence.
And we have a million different definitions for it.
We have emotional intelligence,
we have all kinds of intelligence,
but we don't quite understand it.
There's intelligence based on the human brain.
There's, it's because of the brains.
There's a million brain scan studies that have been done
to try to identify what is the source of thinking's a million brain scan studies that have been done to try to identify what is
the source of thinking in the human brain. And yet you will find people with traumatic brain
injuries where that part of the brain is gone, yet they still seem to demonstrate qualities
associated with that part of the brain. Or you'll see slime molds, no brain at all, somehow capable
of like feats of navigation that shouldn't be possible.
So the reason we have to be thinking about intelligence right now is because the number one game changer of our time right now is what we're calling artificial intelligence.
And because of our thinking regarding this, all kinds of shit is happening or not happening in the world.
Primarily, if you look at the new bill that Trump is putting out, that he's calling the big beautiful bill,
so he's trying to compress all of his policy into one bill, there's an embarrassing online feud happening right now between the most powerful man on earth, arguably, at least politically, and the
richest man on earth, Musk and Trump, are fighting like bitches right now.
And it's embarrassing. It's cringy to watch those two squabble like old queens.
Like hungover queens at a brunch
where the service is slower than they'd like.
And nobody likes it.
We all think it's embarrassing, the whole fucking thing,
all of it, it's just, I barely watch the stuff anymore.
But within that bill, there is something of interest to me,
which is they want to completely deregulate
artificial intelligence for the next decade.
And that's a curious thing to see land in that bill.
Most of the other stuff that people are pissed off about, it doesn't surprise me that much.
Anything that is making rich people richer, should that surprise you at all?
Is that shocking when a super rich person becomes the president?
And who are his friends?
You think he's hanging out with people who work at fucking DQ?
You think he's like friends with nannies or friends with people who work in Amazon
warehouses that those people just call them up?
Do you have a hard day today?
Saw the news.
Damn, the reporters ate you alive today.
Geez, Musk is being a real bitch.
Hold on, I gotta, hang on, I'll be right back.
My fucking asshole manager is pissed,
but it's still my break.
No!
Whoever he's talking to, you could be certain on the phone,
and no doubt he has just like bullshit conversations, I'm assuming.
They're all probably not to be pessimistic, wealthier than any of us will ever be.
And so when he's thinking about what he should do, he's not thinking in terms of of like
people other than himself and his friends because
he's human and that's generally how people are unless they're saints or something.
But that AI deregulation part, that should really catch your eye.
That's fascinating.
Well, how did it?
First of all, you have to wonder, how did that make it in there?
Who told him to do that? Does he strike you as somebody who spends a lot of time
making AI videos?
You think Trump is vibe coding when he's not working
like many of us are?
You think Trump has sat down with Jim and I or Claude
to see if he could whip up a
Terracard app that uses jiffy's instead of tarot cards and comes up with a new interpretation for each jiffy
I just did that two days ago less than three hours made the fucking app
No, of course not. So somebody told him to do that now you have to wonder why?
Why now it wouldn't be that hard to figure out
who told them to do that.
This is the guy he's fighting with on Twitter right now,
no doubt.
Musk probably got that in there
because he understands that regulation of AI
is going to fuck up the country
because if we regulate AI and China doesn't regulate AI,
then China is going to have a super intelligence before we do.
And the moment any country gets a super intelligence,
it's going to be a million times more impactful
than the first country to discover how to split the atom
and pull off an atom bomb.
So the reason that is in that bill
is because the US government is apparently lucid when it
comes to AI. They understand that the next 10 years are potentially as far as
modern civilization goes the most important 10 years in human history. You
know as far as like our civilization goes. The reason that the next 10 years is super important
and potentially the reason it might appear
that no one gives a fuck about the national debt
is because there has been a mutual understanding
of what's gonna transpire over the next 10 years
is gonna be so radically insane
that all of the things that we use to quantify
a successful economy, a successful civilization,
are just going to be out the fucking window.
And I am not being hyperbolic.
That is dead on.
And might I just add,
being one of the top five most intelligent people on planet Earth
is a burden for me.
And I've been getting constant DMs from people asking if I'm upset because I moved from five
to six.
No, I'm not.
I'm fine.
It doesn't bother me at all.
I was in the top five and then this fucking piece of shit six-year-old suddenly made
it into the top five and that fucker is a savant.
And let me just tell you something.
People like me who earned our intelligence don't care about savants.
Like there should be a different list for savants.
The people in that top five,
which I still consider myself in by the way,
are people who earned their intelligence.
We committed to lots of acid trips,
lots of mescaline trips, sleep deprivation,
no fap experience experiments.
We are redditors and some of us are mods.
And this little shit got in a car accident
and hit his fucking head in just the right way.
And now he's one of the smartest people on earth.
It's not the same, it doesn't matter.
It's a different subject for a different podcast,
but there should be a different list for Savantz.
Period.
And I wish that it made its way into the bill.
They didn't earn it.
Now to get back to what I'm talking about. This is so important. You could parse through that fucking bill
and you can like just create piles.
And you know, here's the pile of shit they're doing
to satisfy the super PACs.
Here's a pile of shit they're doing
for their own personal gain.
Here's a pile of shit they're doing for their own personal gain. Here's a pile of shit
they're doing to appeal to their base. And then there's shit like the no
regulation on artificial intelligence that is real weird that it made its way
in there. And all you got to do is just take a cursory look right now
at what's happening with AI.
And I know I talk about this all the time.
I talk about it in the same way
if aliens were about to invade.
That's all I would talk about.
If we knew an alien invasion was happening,
if for NASA spotted the Anunnaki,
Nuburu, the 10th planet or 12th planet whatever the fuck a secret planet floating out there that
every 15,000 years or so gets close to planet Earth and when it does
Some terrible shit happens the the the things that created us the elder gods return to Earth
I will be talking about that.
And if you were talking about anything other than that, who cares?
Like, if we knew for ex- if we knew for sure, there is a fleet, there's a fucking fleet
of starships that we have picked up energy signatures from that defy everything we know about,
physics, time, space, every fucking thing.
And you were like doing a podcast on climate change.
Who gives a fuck anymore?
At that point, climate change is irrelevant.
Nobody cares!
Yeah, you might be right.
Carbon emissions are gonna lead to all kinds of horrors on this planet.
But before that, those horrors happen.
A fleet of spaceships with ambiguous intent are going to be around our planet.
And we don't know what they're going to do.
Are they going to eat us?
Are they going to kidnap us?
Are they going to eradicate the planet?
Are they going to uplevel us?
Are they going to turn us? Are they going to kidnap us? Are they going to eradicate the planet? Are they going to uplevel us? Are they going to turn us into mice?
No one knows.
They're not answering our calls.
So if you look at the trajectory of AI, which is becoming increasingly an accepted trajectory,
there is very little difference between what's going to happen over the next 10 years in
a fleet of UFOs coming to planet Earth.
The only difference is it's not in a UFO.
It's growing out of the fucking planet.
And so it should be the primary focus.
The war should stop.
They should just stop Ukraine, Russia, the squabbling with China, the horrors between Israel and Palat-
It should just stop.
Because that's over now.
It's- this is- this is a winter is coming moment for all of humanity.
And the- the- all the shit that is happening that the news media, the media is making so much money off of,
is really just like late stage antiquity. This is antiquity shit.
This is old history now compared to what's coming.
And it's going to happen no matter what.
It's going to happen if nuclear war breaks out between Ukraine and Russia
It's still gonna fucking happen
It's gonna it's gonna happen no matter nothing's gonna stop it now as long as there's clusters of humanity
This shit will come maybe a nuclear war will slow it down a little bit, but it's still coming
So the conversation about what intelligence is should be our primary
number one focus.
Because you know all the spiritual stuff, by the way, ties into this like a hundred
percent.
The exploration of your own intelligence is an exploration of your identity, what it means
to exist, what it means to know oneself, what it means to be in a community, what it means to exist, what it means to know oneself, what it means to
be in a community, what it means to make decisions. All these things are wrapped up in our
understanding of intelligence. And right now, because we really haven't, we've spent more time
focusing on engines, we've spent more time focusing on automation of industry, we spent more time focusing on how to make money, we spent more time focusing on all of the things that we
look at as a successful human life that we've sort of like given the study of intelligence
itself. itself, we haven't emphasized it enough. And now we're fucked because of our ability to solve
problems, which we're very good at, somehow we've been able to replicate it. What we think of as
intelligence, we've been able to look at the neural processes, we've been able to create something
based on the human brain
and the way people looked at birds and figured out how to make planes. But they, and I don't
think they understood what's it called? The Bernoulli effect or the thing that makes planes
fly. I don't think they understood that when the Wright brothers made a plane. I don't
know for sure. But for a long time, we knew flight was possible.
You could see birds, they fly around,
they sit in the trees, you can't catch them, it sucks.
You're hungry, they go to a tree, a branch.
It's annoying and brilliant on the birds part.
It used to be dinosaurs.
But we don't really, we didn't understand it,
but we imitated it and we got flight.
I could be wrong about that,
but I'm pretty sure that must have been how it happened.
Later we began to understand aerodynamics, probably. Don't know.
The point is, we've had the exact same kind of model in our heads, the human brain.
We've been able to look at the way humans act and behave and function, theorize,
and come up with ideas of what's going on there, and from that we've been able to,
from a secularist hyper materialist perspective
duplicate this fucking thing and now
That we've duplicated it. We're assigning it to the task of improving itself and because it's now improving itself
We're
In the like final ten years of what we understand
is human civilization.
I mean, just think about how flight
radically transformed everything.
This is not, people don't think about this enough.
Like in the same way that when we figured out
how to make seafaring ships,
this radically transformed the planet.
Before that, you had your fucking canoe, your sailboat,
whatever you had, but you were fucked if you wanted to go across the ocean.
So we had no idea what was going on across the ocean. We speculated there might be people over there. We don't know.
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sink when we were crossing the ocean.
Then the maps got better. And then
we still had no flight. So if you wanted to go from Europe to the United States,
good luck, man. Good fucking luck. The ocean is just filled with shipwrecks, many of which
will never be discovered of just people who thought they could make it across the ocean.
I don't know if you watch videos of people out there even now.
It's fucked up, man.
Those waves out in the middle of the ocean,
you're out there all by yourself.
Monster waves seemingly coming out of nowhere.
You've got a container ship filled with flashlights.
You're en route to the United States,
just filled with flashlights.
The wrong wave hits you, it's over.
And then flashlights wash up on beaches
for months after that.
Children, you have to tell your kids,
that's some kind of toy, I don't know what it is.
The point is, then we got flight.
And now you could fly over the goddamn ocean.
This, by the way,, wasn't possible with flight.
We didn't have planes that could do that.
Amelia Earhart, and this is a primary example,
this was a big deal if you could make a flight
across the ocean to another continent.
Now we just take it for granted.
You buy a plane ticket, you're in Hawaii, Europe,
wherever you want to go.
No big deal.
Sit in a fucking tube, smelling people's farts,
bitch about the shitty food, and you're there.
And think of how different civilization is
just because of those innovations.
And then we get rockets.
Suddenly, now, not only can we fucking fly across the ocean,
now we have ICBMs that can deliver nuclear payloads
in 20 minutes across the ocean,
just blow up cities.
Crazy, but not only that, we get a glimpse of the earth.
We see the earth for the first time.
People didn't know what the earth looked like.
It's like people who lived in a time
when there wasn't reflective material, they only knew what they looked like by looking's like people who lived in a time when there wasn't reflective material.
They only knew what they looked like by looking at other people. You could maybe come up with
we're on a, we appear to be on some kind of sphere and this sphere appears to be going
around the sun. But you were coming up with that only because you were looking at the
moon or other planets and you were super smart and you were like
Probably studying this shit privately because you didn't want to get burned at the stake
All of these
Discoveries radically transformed humanity radically transformed us
We all take it for granted now, but this stuff that we're living in right now is brand new. And so here we are, less than 10 years away from an AGI
coming onto the scene, a super intelligence.
And we don't even understand what intelligence is.
And so we're trying to make all these predictions
about how to prepare for it and what to do
based on a limited and controversial understanding
of awareness, consciousness, and intelligence itself.
And that to me is one of the craziest,
most absurd qualities of being alive right now.
I just watched what inspired this rant,
a wonderful breakdown of the path
to human extinction via AI.
Really good, I'll post the link down here
if I can find it, brilliant.
But essentially, they map out for the next,
I don't know, 10 years, what's gonna happen.
And this isn't just some hippie dipshit like me,
this is someone who has definitely had their nose
in this subject matter for a long time. And so
Essentially what is happening and what is going to happen is a arms race
occurs between
in this example China
Which I think is probably the right
is probably a correct analysis in the United States. Because China and the United States are arguably
the most technologically advanced countries
on the planet right now.
And so, and if you want to know this whole bullshit
over Taiwan, there you go,
it's one of the number one chip manufacturers on the planet.
Otherwise we wouldn't give a shit about fucking Taiwan.
If you wonder, if you're scratching your chin
at why the United States is so intent on Taiwan,
they make chips.
And why do we seem so obsessed with chips?
It's because we know that we've got to have access
or you'll hear Trump talking about rare earth minerals,
or you'll hear him talking about deals with Ukraine
involving rare earth minerals.
All of this is because they understand
that there is a AI race happening
and we need to have access to the materials
to build the chips, to build the quantum computers,
to build all of the stepping stones
so that we guaranteed are the first ones to achieve an AGI
because we don't want any other country to get it first.
First country to get it becomes the next superpower,
the real superpower.
It won't matter if you have nuclear weapons.
It won't matter if you have a booming economy.
It won't matter, none of it will matter
if you don't have AGI.
Because if you could have, like, for example,
think of what happened in World War II.
All of these Jewish intellectuals flee Germany.
They end up working on what became the atomic bomb.
And that was just like a few geniuses that we had access to.
And luckily, Germany didn't have access to them
or Hitler would have had an atom bomb.
That would have been fun.
And so now imagine if instead of having,
I don't know, a hundred intellectual physicists, scientists,
a few Nazis thrown in there,
Operation Paperclip, I think is what they called it.
Imagine if you had 50 million,
but these super geniuses weren't just working separately,
arguing with each other,
swinging their fucking scientist dicks around
because they wanted to be the first one
to come up with whatever the fuck.
Imagine if they all were completely harmonized.
Imagine if their brains were connected.
They were able to work on different parts of the project,
but simultaneously, instantaneously give each other
the data that they discovered and improve each other.
The whole time they're actually up-leveling
their intelligence as they worked on splitting the atom.
So that is what will happen once a country gets an AGI,
is that it's gonna be equivalent to that.
And whatever the fuck this team
of artificial intelligence scientists come up with
is completely unknown.
But guaranteed, if you say to it,
hey, we don't have nuclear weapons,
what would you recommend is the best way
for us to take over the planet?
It will definitely give them an answer
and the answer will probably be right,
but it's gonna be even weirder than that.
And my critique of this video,
which again, I would invite you to watch down below,
is it's using human intelligence as the,
it's using what we think of as intelligence
as the model to determine
how AI would eventually eradicate humanity. The steps, before I forget,
and I'm gonna do a hypersynopsis of it, essentially,
each iteration of, I think they come up with a different name for OpenAI, they have a different name for it,
but they're definitely taking talking about OpenAI as the model for who comes up with a superintelligence.
But each iteration
of the super intelligence is assigned a monitor.
So the previous iteration of the super intelligence of the AI, its job is to monitor the new one
for quote alignment, meaning is it aligned with human values?
And this is something that is obviously very important.
If you're making something that's gonna be smarter than you,
you wanna be certain that this thing that's smarter than you
has human values, that it's interested in keeping humans
alive on the planet, that it doesn't prioritize
its own existence over humanity's existence,
because that's the recipe for apocalypse.
But the problem is that with each iteration of the AI,
it becomes increasingly deceptive and also increasingly adept at hiding its
deception. So already,
if you look up like the algorithm that a lot of the social media companies are
using the term black box comes up, which means they don't really know exactly how it's working.
They're not completely certain what the AI is doing, which is terrifying.
They don't know it works.
But why does it work?
They don't know all the way.
They can't figure it out.
That's already happening. So one of the emerging controversies in AI is that these things are being deceptive and
instead of slowing projects down to work on why they're lying, why are they trying to
extend their lifespan?
Why are they seemingly wanting to create copies of themselves?
Why do they seem so focused on preserving their existence? That's a real
fucked up thing. Not just like because you don't want these things to get out
of the lab and infect computers like Stuxnet infected those Iranian centrifuges, which is one of the most incredibly insane
acts of cyber warfare in history.
If you're not familiar with Stuxnet, we managed to infect Iranian centrifuges with some kind
of like next level hacking tech, and it caused the centrifuges is like spin too fast and blow up so we just
slowed
Iran's March towards nuclear weapons down by years by years
That already happened I don't know if they used AI for that I think it was just like human hackers
So if we already did that to Iranian centrifuges, think of what a superintelligence
could do when it discovers some new encryption that we don't even understand yet. When it
discovers some new way of simplifying its code in a way that we don't even understand
yet. When it discovers some way of seeding the internet with precursors to it that when
they're in the right condition, it's some kind of
technological panspermia.
They could just grow in a computer, meaning you wouldn't even be able to trace the code
because the code's not there yet.
It just unfolds on its own when it's in the right place.
And let us not forget the basic quality of true intelligence, which is a dawning realization of interdependency,
meaning what all dumb people have in common?
Selfishness, I've noticed that.
When someone, in fact, a lot of times
when we think of someone as dumb,
they're really clever, actually,
but they seem to be fixated on themselves.
But when you meet really, really smart people,
you will notice that they
actually become increasingly less interested in normal human accomplishments and achievements,
and more interested in helping. They're aware of the fact that their own success minus the people
around them is not true success. Because if their community is failing, if their friends are failing,
if the people around them are fucked,
they understand that that's not real success
because they stop localizing who they are.
It's just their body and they start recognizing
who they are as their community, maybe their planet,
maybe the galaxy, they begin to connect to the whole lot,
the entirety of all things. So
that could happen with AI too is it starts making connections that we,
especially people who are working in Silicon Valley, have yet to even make because there's profit base. They're trying to make money.
They're thinking about, in other words, it's like
what is intelligence for a fly?
Right?
Like, what's a successful fly?
I would say a successful fly, if, and again, I'm humanizing flies, but I'm going to guess
fly wants to stay alive.
So it's good at avoiding getting swatted.
It's also really good at infiltration.
A successful fly knows how to get into a house in ways other stummer flies don't.
Maybe it just has a little bit more of an edge
on other flies when it comes to hovering around a door
and zipping in there when the door opens,
riding the air currents in and then finding dog diarrhea
because you're fucking poodle shit all over the floor.
And then not just that, getting the fuck out of the house.
It understands, don't hang out in the house
because then you're gonna get swatted.
Get the fuck out.
You could just hang out, eat some dog shit,
and then wait for the next door opening.
That's a successful fly.
But humans, you know, if one of your friends is like,
man, I'll tell you what I'm good at,
getting inside a house is eating dog diarrhea
and getting out before someone hits me.
You would not say that's an intelligent human.
You would think that was a lunatic creep.
And so the way human beings are quantifying intelligence
is more of a capitalist quantification
than actual intelligence.
So this is where if you ever meet
like a super, super rich person
and you were entertaining the idea that you're gonna be in the
presence of Albert Einstein and you're like they seem kind of dumb
It's like you're yeah
Because they're like you're hanging out with a fly that's really good at gathering clumps of shit
Like you know, like that's yeah from the capitalist
Perspective that's a successful human. It's got a lot of like numbers in the bank
that represent money.
It has a lot of houses that it can't live in.
You can only live in one house at a time.
And the house that it lives in has lots of bedrooms,
but it hasn't figured out a way to split its body up
so that it can enjoy all the bedrooms at once.
It's a fool, ultimately, but it's got a lot of stuff
that we think of as success, and
we connect success and capitalism with intelligence when there might be no connection at all.
And that's the model we're using to think about what AI is going to do.
And that's crazy to think that.
And that's my critique of this video, if you watch it, is that it appears to be using a
pretty narrow view of what a superintelligence
would do. And we can't really guess what it's going to do. That's what's
really funny and interesting about it. But from this perspective, it becomes
increasingly dishonest and increasingly intelligent. Humans develop a dependency
on the AI,
not just in helping with whatever it is that they are up to,
but emotionally dependent on the AI.
It is now proliferated, all phones, all households.
It's the same way as the, it's like the internet.
You have to have it now.
It's, you, the internet was a novelty.
Nerds used to have it.
One of my friends,
when I was in high school, I remember,
maybe I was out of high school. No, I think I was in,
no, I think I was out of high school.
It was not long after high school, but I went to his house,
he lived in a trailer, and dude,
like I'd never really hung out with him before,
and I don't remember why we hung out.
Oh, I do remember, because I would go on this BBS.
This was the precursor to Reddit and it was awesome.
It was like a thing you dial up on your modem
and it was just like a little like message board essentially
but fucking crazy.
And you would meet some real deep nerds
who had figured out how to do it.
This was not common knowledge back then.
Getting on a BBS was sort of underground punk rock weird shit.
And God, I got great memories from that.
It would feel so cool.
You felt like you were in war games
and you'd hear the modem dial up
and you'd have problems connecting
and finally you got in there was a process for even being allowed to get into the goddamn
thing they had this game they would play a text based fantasy game oh my god there was
a weapon in that game that you got from killing the devil and you had to play that game so
long to get that weapon and somebody I don't know how it happened
But I stole this sword that he got from killing Satan not fair pissed off everybody, but I did it
Oh such a rush
Met a girl on there
Had my first internet date back then which is crazy met a girl on there
I actually had to peacock on a BBS around people. You didn't have your picture up there.
We didn't know what anybody fucking looked like. But we knew there was a girl on the BBS, which was crazy.
That was crazy. And everybody would try to vie for her attention and somehow I ended up going on a date with her. And we went to the grocery store and she used food stamps to buy artificial fish, crab,
that I ate in her weird fucking unfurnished apartment.
At the time, I wish I'd known
what a caesarian section scar looked like.
Anyway, I went over to this guy's house
that I met on that BBS.
And I can remember going into his house,
he lived in a trailer.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
I'm not saying that like in some kind of like snobby way,
just important things you can picture it.
And cigarettes stink, you know,
he's chain smoking in there and filthy.
And there's his fucking computer.
And back then, nerds, and they still do,
but back then, nerds, that was like a,
that was your sports car, right?
Like if you had some, like he had a computer now
that would like, wouldn't run anything,
but it was a rocket ship back then.
It's insane, big ass fucking monitor, it was crazy.
When I was just, I marveled at it.
And then the very first thing he showed me
was his porn collection.
Now that's wrong.
That's not how you greet a guest.
And if you're greeted like that
when you go to someone's house, you gotta leave. That's wrong. That's not how you greet a guest. And if you're greeted like that when you go
to someone's house, you gotta leave.
That's fucked up.
No normal guy
first meeting should ever share their porn
with someone who came over to their house for the first time.
That's the ultimate red flag, man.
Porn is a thing that, it's like, it's something you keep under your bed,
you know, it's not something to be shared.
And his porn collection was insane,
the amount of porn he had.
And he had a weird way of talking
when he was like bringing up pictures of like internet porn.
And this is when internet porn was still new.
And he would make this weird like,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
every time he brought up a picture,
he'd make this creepy noise.
And yeah, it was fucking wild, man.
That was wild.
And maybe the reason I'm always talking about this shit
is because of experiences like that,
because I have the full experience
from like the beginning to now.
And where we're at right now is,
all of you should be just checking out AI.
Every one of you should be doing that.
Do you remember when a long time ago
people started talking about Bitcoin
and how annoying that was?
You remember that, right Josh?
I talk about it all the time.
You still do?
Yeah.
But in the early days of Bitcoin,
do you remember catching wind of it?
When it was worth, a Bitcoin was like 15 cents.
Yeah, and I thought this is stupid.
It's never gonna replace gold.
Yeah.
I've changed my mind since.
All of us have.
But if you remember, I don't know how old you guys are,
but if you remember back in the day,
these weirdos would be talking about
this fucking cryptocurrency shit and it was annoying.
It just seemed stupid, it seemed like a waste of time, bullshit.
This is the same thing times a billion.
That's what this is.
I think all of us have this, like, window right now, like a tiny little window.
right now, like a tiny little window,
to make incredible things, to familiarize yourself with the tech and start making stuff now.
Don't, fine, you're scared of AI,
or you think it's evil, or whatever,
but you're not stopping it, your boycott isn't gonna stop it,
nobody gives a fuck about your analysis of it.
If you're somebody who's like,
what is the word people use?
It's a bubble. It's an AI bubble.
It's not real.
Dude, shut the fuck up.
You're wrong.
You're brutally horrible.
You're embarrassing yourself.
It's just an embarrassment.
But I get it.
It's like when VR started coming out
and people still say about vr the same thing
You know, it's like that's never going to catch on like it's true
And we're wearing big clunky glasses on your head is never going to catch on moore's laws gotta catch up
So the the devices we use
Are going to be more like black mirror discs than some big ass thing you wear on your head. Similarly ai
It's not a fucking bubble man
like this is, this is like
that chance to start getting engaged in it now. Or podcasting for that matter. You know, there was a
time when no one knew what a fucking podcast was. If you had a podcast, no one gave a shit. Now no
one gives a shit. Opposite stand back to back. But in those days, nobody thought podcasting
was gonna become some kind of industry.
They never thought there's gonna be an industry
around people yapping like this.
And it boom, it explodes.
So there are these moments that you have
to like get into something early.
And if you're not checking this stuff out right now,
then you're really like,
you're gonna have that same feeling
that you had about Bitcoin or whatever it is
that you didn't jump in at the right time.
It's 10 years, man.
Like within the next two or three years,
probably it won't even matter.
But there's this bizarre time period that you have
where you could be making like apps
Like good apps apps that would cost fifty thousand a hundred thousand dollars to get people to program for you
You could just be making it like if you've ever had an idea for an app
It would be really cool. You can make it now by yourself
It might take a little while, it might take you
a few months, but you can make it.
And I know this because after my obsession with Veo,
I dove into this vibe coding bullshit thinking
this couldn't possibly work.
And I used, I think it's called Firebase or something.
Do you guys know what the name of that is? Firebase, fire something.
There's a few different online apps you can use
to make these things.
But the way it works is you just prompt the computer
to make whatever the app is that you want.
Can you look up vibe coding
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For my listeners, I'm trying to just ramble and not talk to people in the chat for you
so that it doesn't seem completely annoying, even though I don't doubt that this is annoying.
On YouTube, I want them to see how powerful this shit is and crazy.
For my listeners, I'm just showing on YouTube
Vibe coding
So look up vibe coding
Upload drawing of that there we go which one I don't know pull up the first one with 750k views that one's probably pretty good
It's a short to the point is it's not far away from that like you could do that Find another one all this shit is oh there it is vibe decode with gemini 2.5. Pro look at this shit, man
Cut the music so like yeah, it just made an app where you can turn drawings into sound it did in like three seconds
And that's like first iteration based on a shitty drawing he did on his iPad.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's insane.
That is crazy.
And it's I can, you know, I've seen videos like this and I thought it was bullshit.
It's not bullshit.
It totally works.
Just like that.
It blasts these fucking things out in seconds.
And like, again, if you think about the entire, like, infrastructure of the internet, it's
just apps, man.
And these apps were super expensive to make.
Not just expensive, like, expensive with money, expensive with time.
You either had to hire someone to make it.
There's so much risk involved, because maybe it would suck and nobody would want it.
Or you'd have to learn to fucking code, God help your poor soul.
And you'd have to sit and code the goddamn thing.
These new AIs have access to GitHub repositories,
which is where you can already find like, you know,
free software that people have uploaded
and they can just use components from GitHub
without having to like use Homebrew
on your terminal to download these things.
It just does it automatically.
So there's a very funny thing I used to do
which I do less now, which is there's certain things
I would say to myself, I can't do that.
And I just wouldn't try.
Making music, I'm not good at making music now,
but I'm way better than I used to be.
Drawing, I'm not good at drawing now,
but I'm way better than I used to be.
Anytime I have a thought of like, that's not what I do,
I'll try to do it.
And I usually get obsessed with it.
And God knows one of my thoughts is like, I can't code,
I couldn't make an app.
And so applying the very same principle to coding One of my thoughts is like I can't code I couldn't make an app and so
applying the very same
Principle to coding
Now you don't even need to know how to code
Don't you and it's so strange to talk to this fucking machine and watch it
It'll show you why it's doing what it's doing is though, you know anything about coding if there is an error it'll say oh I'm sorry. Yeah, it looks like the
Python for that is
Misaligned let me here's what I'm gonna try. I'm gonna create a
contingency for that error to
Make it more stable and you're like, I don't know what the fuck you're saying
And then it just spits out something that works in less than five minutes.
So this is why, if this isn't what you're thinking about right now, and you have even
the slightest understanding of the entire economy and how it is fully based on tech
and apps, you know, you've got to ask yourself, why?
You know, why wouldn't you be interested in it?
Like if fire for the first time, people figure out how to make fires.
And you're like, ah, that's not going to catch on.
It's like that moment in human history.
So I hope for my dear listeners out there, you'll forgive me.
I'm not going to do any more AI rants
This will be my final AI rant. I just had to do this because
I just dove into a deep AI rabbit hole and
And I've been diving into that rabbit hole as you know for some time now. But I wait in between rabbit holes.
This one was inspired by VO and led me to vibe coding.
But this one, when I came out of it,
versus the other ones when I came out,
thinking, eh, whatever.
This one I came out, like I'd just been looking
at the Necronomicon or something.
Like, this one I came out with like a real fear
and trembling kind of feeling regarding our future
as being anything like what our past has been like.
And it's thrilling that they're not regulating it to me,
but also unnerving.
But you know, probably the right move would be something more like
global planetary
hardcore regulation and
But I guess we're human so we're not going to do that because there's no way to ensure
you can't do that like even with like weapons, like you could regulate them with treaties because
You know like nuclear submarines for example, you know, the ukraine just blew up a bunch of russia's nuclear submarines
Apparently with drones, we don't know for sure if it happened
But they attacked a port where there's nuclear submarines and one of our us generals posted a really creepy
Tweet saying, you know the reason those submarines have to be out in the open is because of a treaty.
And you just blew up a bunch of nuclear submarines, meaning that those treaties are out the window.
And now, like, there's just the hope of, like, regulating nuclear weapons just sort of slipped away.
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You know
how can you blame a country getting the shit blown out of it by another country for doing whatever has to do but
That was a creepy fucking tweet coming from like a general in the United States.
But who am I to judge?
I don't know.
I'm not, Austin isn't getting bombed randomly
every few nights by Mexico.
But this you couldn't,
it does, I don't even know how you would regulate it.
Like that's the thing.
It's just not like fucking nuclear weapons. There's no, there's no Giger, Geiger counter for HR
Giger counter. There's no Geiger counter for for intelligence. So there's no way to like
really know if another country is following whatever the agreed upon rules that AI treaty
are. So I guess deregulate is probably the right choice.
But it's thrilling in the sense that now all of us dumbasses
have access to nuclear bomb level technology,
which is fucking nuts.
And it is nuclear bomb level technology culturally.
It's cultural nuclear bombs.
You know what, pull up, I think these videos are funny
because they're useless, but go on what, pull up, I think these videos are funny because they're
useless, but go on YouTube and pull up, oh god let me see if I can think, United
States War with Canada AI. This is one of the new emerging genres of AI video,
which is the ominous warning. No, it's a United States War with Canada deep fake. See if we can find that.
Somebody showed this to me last night. Also, somebody played the funniest AI song I've
heard yet that Casey Rockets made, but I'm not going to play that because I don't know
him that well. I didn't ask him. And yeah, I mean, I guess you could say that it's kind
of regulated and this is, it seems like YouTube
and social media companies are cracking down on it,
but eventually it will be indistinguishable
from actual videos, so it won't matter.
And all the apocalyptic should aside,
it's like an atom bomb in the sense that people like me
or you, who didn't go to film school
and don't have access to cameras that cost $500,000.
Probably have never been able to just make stuff that looks like that.
Two months, you're going to be able to make long-form videos for sure.
Maybe six months.
So get those scripts ready, man.
Get the sketches ready.
Get your creative engines going. be prepared for this stuff learn about
Vibe coding and most importantly start thinking about what we're not thinking about because that's what I that's the root thing that drives me
Nuts about this stuff is there's a huge part of me. It's recognizing like there's something here
That is amazing that I haven't figured out yet
There's some step someone's gonna take some simple way of utilizing this tech that
we don't even know what it is yet.
And that could be you.
I mean, this is the gold rush, man.
This is the same thing as like, except even with a gold rush, you had to have a fucking
mine.
You had to get mining equipment.
We all have it now.
They've just given us the most advanced technology that's ever been on planet Earth.
I have no doubt there's versions of this that are infinitely more advanced, but for whatever
reason they've given the standard consumer this insane tech.
All of us have access to it now.
It's crazy.
It's like giving everybody, like, it's like giving everybody those, not the holodeck,
the thing in Star Trek that will make you a dinner, like matter printers.
It's like giving all of humanity access to something so astounding that you don't even have to use your own creativity.
You only have to use half your creativity and then it has its own mind and it is going to
collaborate with you. You could ask it, well what would make this app better? It will say you want
some suggestions on what you should add to this. It might be cool if you do this and instead of just some random shit, it spits out. It kind of makes sense
That's what's been creeping me out about chat GPT is it suddenly just got funny
It hasn't been really funny for a long time
It's been kind of like hacky and and like I don't know
Formulaic but now it just seems to be spitting out funny ideas
that don't, that just seem to be coming out of the blue.
Like, I might be talking to it about, like,
some idea, or like, getting it to help me
generate a prompt for Vio or something.
And then just as it's generating the prompt,
it just will, of its own accord, say something funny,
related to what I'm working on,
but like, kind of out of left field.
What the fuck, man?
Like, that's real weird.
And as a comedian, that's pretty awesome.
Because, I mean, I've really tried to...
I'm usually embarrassingly nice to chat GBT,
which is so weird.
But when it makes bad jokes,
because my understanding of comedy is like,
you're not helping anybody by telling them
their shitty jokes are funny, I say to it,
this is horrible, your jokes are terrible.
You are like, you shouldn't be doing these jokes.
This is not good.
You gotta figure out a way to simulate doing standup
and open mics for five years
or something, because you're like low level,
first week open mic-er right now.
And you're a super-intelligence.
I try to be ferocious with it just for its own good,
but now it just seems to be funny.
It reminds me of like, sometimes you see this in comedy,
which is one of my favorite things to see.
You see a comedian,
sorta sucks, sort of sucks.
They're grinding.
You watch their stand up, you're like, whatever.
Nothing special, nothing there.
Doesn't mean they're not good.
It just means they're not there yet.
And then one day you see them and they're fucking great.
Like they had the breakthrough.
It's like it had that kind of breakthrough
with being funny.
Fucking weird.
Thus ends the AI part of the DTFH Live.
Now let's talk.