Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 702: Jeremy Corbell

Episode Date: August 3, 2025

Jeremy Corbell, UFOlogist (and definitely UFO enthusiast), re-joins the DTFH to talk about the latest UFO government disclosures! Antipodean family! Duncan is doing a run of shows in New Zealand and Australia this very month! First stop is SkyCity Theatre in Auckland, NZ on August 19. Click here to get your tickets now! This episode is brought to you by: Minnesota Nice Ethnobotanicals wants to help you escape the matrix of stress and reconnect with the earth’s ancient wisdom—go to mn-nice-ethnobotanicals.com/duncan and use code DUNCAN20 for 20% off your first order of Amanita Muscaria Capsules! This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/duncan and get on your way to being your best self. Try your first month of BlueChew FREE. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information.

Welcome to the DTFH. What an excellent episode we have for you today. Jeremy Corbell, UFologist and definitely UFO enthusiast. One of the people behind what people are claiming is a slow movement towards disclosure in the United States. He's been to the Senate hearings and he has been leading the charge when it comes to getting the US government to release whatever it has about The strange phenomena that has been happening with increasing frequency around our planet

One of my favorite podcasts is weaponized with George Knapp and Corbell Please subscribe to it. If you haven't listened to it, it's amazing. But first, subscribe to the DTFH. Leave us a nice review, won't you? And now everybody, welcome to the DTFH, Jeremy Korbel. Jeremy, thank you for coming on the show, man. You've been all over my feeds because, and I love it, you do show up on my feeds a lot,

because I'm plugged into a lot of the UFO community. I like to try to keep updated on what's going on. But you've been coming up over and over again because you made a prediction that at some point, the people would start saying there's an interstellar object coming towards Earth that is a spaceship and you said that's you're gonna start hearing this and it's bullshit that's every everyone in the UFO community is like what the fuck and I got to ask on behalf of them how did you know that

where what where did that come from what made you decide that you wanted to say that out loud? Yeah, man, well, that's a long, treacherous road to get to that point where I'm saying it. But I don't think what I said is directly equated to what it is that you're hearing in the media right now. It was more of a momentum, a whisper campaign within the UFO community that I was tracking where you could see people were trying to enroll people in their agendas based upon some secret understanding that all shit's going down from 2027 to 2036.

You know, you always put big windows when you're trying to enroll people and get them on. So I was just kind of ringing the bell or saying the quiet part out loud, which is that I have been approached by intelligence agents, a lot of other people I know have been as well, that it was a whisper campaign that I was calling absolute bullshit on that It was a way to get people to feel like they're part of a secret club You should really listen up and get behind me and that's kind of like what I what I heard It was like I call it word on the wash. It was something that was kind of an undercurrent So during that show the UFO revolution show which is Fox and Tubi

They asked me like what are you most concerned about? And I'm like, I'm most concerned about the nonsense and the bullshit that makes no sense. I know where the origin of that rumor comes from but I saw people spreading it and populating it. So in the show, I didn't think they were gonna use that part, but I said, here, here's the deal. This is what I am calling bullshit on,

which is that there's gonna be this slow moving craft, you know, and it's going to be put all over the news and serious people are going to be talking about it. Now, I don't know, I guess I'm pretty lucky, you know, all of a sudden this is all over. Yeah, what do you know? You just predicted before the third interstellar object, I think the second or third interstellar object that's ever entered our solar system appeared is, has got a weird trajectory going around the planets. Apparently when it's gonna be most visible, it just so happens that it's gonna be behind the sun, so you won't be able to see it.

Avi Loeb, the Harvard astrophysicist, he's not saying it's a UFO, but he's saying it's not not a UFO. All we know is, you know, this ooma mooma thing showed up and zinged around the Sun. Now this new thing's coming in. Why are these things...for one, it's such an extraordinary occurrence apparently that I always assume to happen all the time. Meteors, asteroids, no these are coming from the cuneapar belt. These are coming from within the solar system. For something to have a trajectory that goes through a solar system that isn't from that solar system

is apparently extremely anomalous. And so to have two of these events happen in a relatively short span of time is pretty bizarre. And so yeah, it just so happens that you warned people about something that is in the news now because a Harvard astrophysicist is saying could be a UFO. We don't know if it's hostile. We don't know anything about it. Are we ready for this?

Well, okay, so let's let's talk about the idea of if it's hostile. We don't know anything about it. Are we ready for this? Well, okay, so let's talk about the idea of if it were true, but I wanna be really clear on this. I don't think this particular announcement is specifically the undercurrent that I was talking about. It was a general push to get people to begin to feel or believe this. And it comes specifically from this 1970s classified document that I was exposed to at some point. And I kind of reverse engineered it and figured out what people were doing.

So to be very clear, I personally, and look, I could be wrong. George always makes a joke that I could be wrong with it, but it's true. I could be wrong. But what I've noticed is that within the disinformation within the UFO community, that this was being used as a currency to get people who have an audience to become enrolled and start speaking the speak that is desired by others. So I just kind of stepped up and said, look, could be wrong, I might look like a fool, but this is the trend I'm seeing.

And I don't buy it. And I think you should be forewarned not to buy it. I think it's nefarious disinformation. Right. Just like the Lockheed Martin built the Tic Tac absolute bullshit passage material from the CIA that I warned people about two years ago is now manifesting. It just means that I got my ear to the ground on this. I talk with a lot of people, but let's just go into this object real quick.

A lot of what is in the media with a lot of people, but let's just go into this object real quick. A lot of what is in the media and a lot of what you said, I don't believe it is correct. I don't believe is true. I, I believe from what I've researched that the closest path of this object is going to be like December, maybe 16th or something like that. That it would be visible if you have like a good telescope or something. So it's not going to be completely obscured by the sun. I think it's a lot of people being sensationalists. Now look, it is cool to have an object coming in from outside our solar system. I mean,

they don't know where it's from. Could be from, I mean, I, I'm not an astrophysicist. I don't know, but it could be from very far away. Right. And so that's cool. But the thing is, is UFOs are already here, man. They've been here a long time. They don't need to send these huge motherships from somewhere else and like the American public's gonna be told and some big disaster's coming. Again, if I'm wrong, it doesn't matter. Everybody's dead. But Are we? Don't buy it.

I mean, look, here's the thing. It's what they call the dark forest hypothesis that the reason we're not hearing anything from out there is because any civilization That is out there figured out don't broadcast shit because if you do they come now I Don't disagree with you. There's clearly a lot of things on this planet that That we have yet to weigh measure quantify kill well planet that we have yet to weigh, measure, quantify, kill. Well, maybe we've killed a few UAPs, but all that being said,

just because we have X amount of whatever these things are on this planet, that doesn't mean that something else isn't coming to the party. And the uptake in sightings of these things, you know, perhaps that is related to more than just advanced radar tech. Perhaps that's related more to AI. Maybe that's related more to some technology

we're about to stumble upon that maybe you're not supposed to fuck with. You know, who knows? Maybe it's a thing that shows up once a planet's about to make the classic mistake of building of super intelligent AI. Because if anything was going to cause problems in the universe, it's going to be a super intelligent mechanical life form that exponentially evolves every millisecond. That could get daddy to come down to the basement. Yeah. And look, this has always been the thing about the UFO topic. It is a hidden secret within the intelligence community. They know there are craft that we didn't build,

that no terrestrial nation that is advanced that we know of built them. It's a known secret. All of a sudden the public is kind of a little bit being let in on that secret. We've been told that there are these machines. But there's so much pushback within the agencies, the intelligence agencies. It's like, how much do they want you to know?

And this is why I'm so fascinated by this. Everybody wants disclosure now, disclosure quick. Disclosure of what? No matter what video that is leaked to me that George Knapp and I put out, no matter how many times we have whistleblowers go up and testify, everybody wants, show me them aliens. You know, show me.

Yeah, well, I mean, you need the craft landing on the White House lawn. That's a classic example given you need what what we want is more than some articulated story about them or or images that in general Aren't like at least some actually the Mosul orb was pretty fucking insane, but it's crazy. I guess you're right Yeah, like it's true when I see things like that

Even though even though you show it to me even though Yeah, it's it's real There's a part of me that will still kick in and get weather balloon. That's it. That's a balloon Yeah, sure. It looks like the balloon shape shifting into some kind of you humanoid ish form or yeah this is like you know what I mean but it's a balloon it's a tint that blew up in the air built into us I was just having this conversation with the previous guest it built into us seems to be yeah we want it but when you show it to us that ain't it we want it, but when you show it to us, that ain't it. We want more.

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What all I'm trying to do is say our government says these are UAP. They designated them UAP. That shit got leaked to me and George. I am now showing you the government then denies, denies, denies until we get the information out of FOIA. And they're like, oops, we found the file. That's what happened with the Mosul Orb. So, so the thing is, ma'am,

I don't know what all of this stuff is. I've never claimed to know, but what I do know for sure is that this is the most guarded secret by the United States government, as well as other governments. Used to be. It still is the most-

It's before the Epstein List. Is it a better one? Tell me a's before the Epstein List. Tell me a bigger one. Epstein List. Yeah, maybe you're right, man. But this is the one with the most infrastructure of secrecy. People have worked on a non-human intelligence craft. They've breached the holes.

I had the head of the DIA, UFO program come on our podcast and tell us that much. Right. I have talked to so tell us that much. Right. I have talked to so many witnesses that can't testify. I'll give you an example. This upcoming hearing, uh, it was announced it should be September. Let's see if they narrow that in. Okay. Uh, I have provided three firsthand witnesses firsthand, meaning being in close proximity to an operational UAP on a military base.

Um, I have provided those people, some of the people I provided, they're like, you can talk about X, but not about Y. And they're like, well, why? And they're like, because that is a national security issue, that's strategic advantage. So even though it's true, and there's this UFO program, and you know more about it,

you can't testify to that in open congressional hearings. And I understand, I understand there's like this level of we need to protect our assets and our strategic advantage, but damn, the fucking secret is out. Like let these people talk, man. So big picture, dude. What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to put out the best information, the best evidence that uniquely comes to me and George. I'm trying to bring people into the public realm who can tell you their experience that you're not going to be fully satisfied. I get that.

I'm not fully satisfied, but that is the, them be the rules. Like, I get it. I don't feel like you're any part of what's like making this annoying, blurry and annoying at all. I get it. I don't feel like you're any part of what's making this... Annoying? ...blurry and annoying at all. You seem to be pushing back against that and you're met with like people who don't want to go to jail, people who will go to jail, or you will lose all access to whatever your data sets are. People will not feel safe talking to you.

Right, right. And so you lose... so I get it. It's a tightrope that you're walking on. And, but the, you know, man, where the national security assessment stuff, where I like to like bat around a little ethical question with that, which is, you know, let's compare it to the splitting of the atom. You know, that's a real national security issue. You don't want anybody to know

you're working on this. You don't want anyone to know you're about to have the most powerful weapon on planet Earth. I get that. But this stuff, even though I guess you couldn't call developing the nuclear bomb necessarily ethical, where this to me seems like particularly unethical if you're arguing national security, is that we're talking about shifting from one paradigm regarding our place in the universe to a completely different one. We're talking about shifting to a much more alive universe with a lot more possibility than most people think of it as. And so in that way, what is more important, national security or allowing the planet to exist according to like the truth as it is versus an obfuscated truth.

A truth that's been warped and distorted by legalese and corpo intelligence agency speak. You know what I mean? At that point, don't you feel like national security should be a secondary consideration? Yeah, I always have. So, here's the issue. We know that there's a nuclear program, but not everybody's being given the recipe

to make a nuclear bomb. Bob Lazar said this back in the day. everybody should know that UFOs are real, that we're part of a greater fabric of reality, that it's nature. The problem becomes, and I'll just tell you, I'm not arguing this but I'll tell you the problem, what I've heard from intelligence agencies and people that reach out to get a bead on the UFO thing. Yeah. Which is like, let's say we've got about 13 non human intelligence made craft that we've either dug up or have crashed or whatever. And we open one up and we get a power source. And we're like, Holy shit, this thing has this incredible technology. So we're going to make sure that is for strategic advantage. Like no one can talk about that. Like that is compartmentalized because as we mess with it,

its potential for weaponization is so powerful. That doesn't mean that we can't tell people the basics, which is the, and they kind of have like UFOs are real. We're all kind of there. And now there's some backlash with that nonsense about the tic-tacs being from Lockheed Martin. Absolute nonsense. I warned everybody two years ago. that was a CIA passage material thing.

Even Commander Fravor was contacted about that and we laughed about it. But anyway, I'm trying to make the argument for you that I understand where they're coming from, which is that there are certain technologies that we need to be able to exploit before other nations do who might be extremely hostile to our way of life. They call them our enemies. Like I get that. But to your point, nobody has the right to tell us a keep from us this much larger reality that there are other intelligent beings that UFOs represent beings like UFOs represent makers. They have factories, they have somewhere where they make these things. So all of a sudden, you've got

other advanced intelligence, whether it be AI, cybernetic or biologics, whatever. And they've been coming here a long time. That basic understanding that we're not alone. Dude, we got to get to the point where that is consensus reality, because that appears to be true. The problem is, dude, and you and I have talked about this. What if the government in a big term, like our programs that run these things? What if they don't know all the answers? And so the next question becomes, well, if UFOs are real, are is channeling real? Yes. Is it? Is

it real that people were abducted? Yeah, are there implants? Are people being taken from their homes? Like, yeah, dude, it gets gnarly. Like, I can understand the old school mentality of being like, we don't know how to answer those. So we're just not gonna admit it's true and create disinformation. But I think Duncan, we're past that now. I think that you've had enough people come forward and be like, I was part of this shit. And you're being lied to. Like, I hope we move beyond it. What do you think? I mean, not that you have an answer to this, but when you try to sort of reverse engineer, not just

the craft, but the psychology behind whatever might be operating these vehicles, you use whatever information you have out there. Obviously, you probably have more than I do. I'm sure you do, but still, it's a limited data set. But, so, one thing that seems pretty clear is that they are intentionally not making full contact with us. And the other thing that seems somewhat clear, I guess, is that apparently they have some awareness of hierarchy. Like, are they... it appears that their interactions are being limited to governments. You know, if we're, you know, that, though, yeah, sure, there's

channelers and sure there's people who claim to have had some alien contact. I'm not saying they didn't, but in general you get a sense that these beings have rules. Part of the rules seem to be non-contact or, you know, not getting down, not landing in the parking lot of Six Flags or something. And so, and which also tells us they don't have a sense of humor. That's right. No comedians on. No one. Nobody's funny out there.

I guess. But the. So why would. How much of what I just said is somewhere close to the truth and why these rules. Are they making them like any sense of like their operating procedure here? Totally. So, so there's a couple of ways to look at this, but here's what we know. We know that there appears to be too much contact for it

and human based contact for it to be just like, we'll send a scout up to the moon and it'll rotate around and map the surface of the moon real quick, you need one, maybe a few weeks, you know, nowadays, but there has been a durational long-term program by maybe multiple different entities or groups that seem to be not just like mapping, you know, the minerals of earth, but like making contact. Now your point is, okay, so they do have discernment. not just like mapping, you know, the minerals of earth, but like making contact.

Now your point is, okay, so they do have discernment. So if there were communications like there have said to have been communications, um, with our government, of course, they look at the structure of our society. And if they want to influence it in any way, they're going to talk to the big boss, right? Or the big bosses are the people who are really in charge. So they are the true architects of the overall secrecy. If they wanted to reveal themselves, they would reveal themselves. However, I will also argue that over time, durationally, there has been a reveal. Now I don't know to trust it or not, but people that they reach out to me in every aspect

of society, they don't want to be known for this. But they've had these interactions with what they believe are non human intelligences. We're talking everybody from scientists to people that work in, you know, labs and aerospace, but also just like the mom who's a nurse in England in 1984. Like, right, there seems to be a core interest. There's obviously some sort of ongoing reconnaissance or surveillance thing going on. We just got too many, too many craft over too long, but you've had mass sightings. You've had the, um, the Phoenix lights mass sighting. You had the kids in

Zimbabwe, um, sorry, Rua, and they were like 80 kids or something. And I met two of them who are friends of mine. They were the closest to these beings. All these kids saw them and they had these messages poured into their head. It was like visual, like watching a movie. And one of my friends who was there, and beyond a shadow of a doubt, I believe in BBC covered it and they were in real time.

I've seen it, it's nuts. Yeah, Lisa and Salma were two of the, they were closest to the beings. And what happened was, I remember Lisa said, it was like I was mesmerized and the moment, everything was silent. And I'm like looking into the eyes of this being. And she goes, I had to like pull myself.

And when I pulled myself away, it instantly broke. All the sound came back. I said, well, what was in your sound came back. I said, well, what was in your mind? And she's like, well, the destruction of our planet, we're not treating it right. This is back way back in the day. So talking about like global warming and stuff. And I said, well, what was the point of them showing a kid all that? And she thought about it for a while. And she was like, I think it was so that I would talk about it. So in a way she goes, I think I'm doing that now. So you have

these close encounters, like the reason people talk about UFOs is because tons of people see them. Okay, but wait, let's talk about the Zimbabwe incident. Yeah, which I believe too, I mean, something fucking happened. It's anyone who's not familiar with this. There's a documentary out maybe more than one. I can't remember the name, but it's amazing. This episode of the DTFH is brought to you by Better Help. It's wild, man. They have spray-on tan.

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But logically, I'm a scout, whatever. The planet's gonna die, this fucking idiot's, look at what they're doing. We better tell them, where should we go? Zimbabwe. I know a great playground in Zimbabwe. We will telepathically project the message we traveled across the universe into the minds of children in Zimbabwe. To me, that was like, wait, what? There's so many other people and ways to give that message including How about you fucking learn to speak English with your?

Telepathy bullshit couldn't you at least make the effort to I don't know have a ventriloquist doll or anything Then bro, maybe they do have a sense of humor. We were wrong. The aliens got the best sense of humor So but you know what I mean? Why is Zabwe? Why a playground in Zimbabwe? Why are these messages being given to people who have a smaller probability of being heard by the mainstream? Why not go, you know, like, pull a port into the view? Yeah. Did you start an OnlyFans? There's so many things. That's where it seems like clearly my understanding of what these things are up to is going to be distorted at the best. But why? What's the explanation for that? Why Zimbabwe? Why? There's a game being played and that's

really clear. I mean, you don't have millions of people lying about seeing and having experiences with beings. You know, you get a few crazy people, you know, in a room, but you just have this durational contact by what appears to be a non-human intelligence. And that you're right, they could just do things way more clearly, way more bluntly. So then you get into all these things. Are there like competing factions? Have we been genetically manipulated? Are we their experiment? Is this the zoo? You know, are we a commodity? I mean, we just go down all these roads. Can I present one you missed?

Yeah. This one I don't like thinking about, Jeremy. The fantasy is these fuckers are smarter than us. In the same way you run into a super rich person every once in a while and you realize like this person's a fucking idiot. And they have billions of dollars. I always assumed making money was somehow correlated with some form of intelligence. So we assume because they're technologically advanced, they're smart in the way we are.

Has it occurred to you they might be fucking idiots? You know what I mean? Yeah, they figured out how to create like time-space distortion technology that allows them to do all the things we've seen in these videos. But that doesn't mean they're like, have any kind of common sense. Meaning that, yeah, I don't know, just it's human, just fucking land. I gotta take a shit, let's get this over with.

Like, we don't know. Is, if you considered that, like, one reason they're interested in us is they think we're the smart ones? No, I haven't quite examined that idea. Look, I am never been accused of being the smartest guy in the room, but I am the most curious oftentimes. So I get to talk with people that, you know, allegedly are in the inside of some of these

programs and they do take a lot of risk. I mean, I've had a situation where FBI has been calling around a lot of the people that I communicate with and kind of icing, you know, putting some ice on it. So it's harder for me to do my job. Yeah. So there's been some intimidation recently with that stuff. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.

I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, man. It's terrifying. It's not like direct intimidation, like I'm going to mess you up. It's just it kind of cools people from talking with me if all of a sudden they get off the phone with me and they get a call from the Department of Justice, right? Hold on, I'm so sorry to do this, man. Something's going on at home. Hello? Oh, okay. But we just we're halfway through. Bye. I got in the podcast, man. Department of Justice. You're fucking with me. I thought something was really going on at home.

I was like, oh, worried. Well, the kid's okay. What's going on? Go, I'm sorry to even make light of, if that was happening to me, I would go so nuts. And like everywhere I looked, I would think I was seeing, I was being watched. I went through a hard time of that where it really got to my head, and not just because of that one

thing. A lot of it's been documented and you will see all that, but I did. I went through a really hard time where I didn't understand why, like, let me see how I can describe this, man. I like, literally, I'm just trying to get as much information out so the public can debate it. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to do. But there are people really fucking terrified to talk about this stuff because they have been directly threatened and that has been documented with local

police departments. Yeah. I know when I say that it doesn't ring, you know, powerfully to people, but if you were in my position and for years and years and years, you're dealing with people trying to protect the fact that they wanna talk with you, and then all of a sudden they start getting like threats and getting, you know, calls from unwanted, unsolicited.

But let me put the other side to that Duncan. There are a lot of great people right now in the government and in our intelligence agencies who believe we should have more transparency. 99.9% of the time, I'm interfacing with people like that. George Knapp and I have given briefings and here's the scope and the scale of the UFO thing. Here's what we know. Here's who we know are liars and jokers.

Here's who we know had real experiences that you should look at. So my point is I don't want to make it all like evil and stuff. There are really great people trying to solve this mystery because they realize it is so important. And that's within every agency so far that has ever, ever popped their head up with mine and George's work. Now, as journalists, our number one goal is we're going to protect sources,

even if they don't protect themselves. However, I can give the brief history of the ufology thing to anybody that asks at any agency. And I've done that a bunch of times, trying to give them a starting point, because a lot of people are out of the loop on this. Right. Here's what I know.

Let's just cut to brass tacks. Here's what I know. Let's just cut to brass tacks. Here's what I know, Duncan. I know for sure that the United States government has non human intelligence made craft or at least that's what they believe it is. Yeah, I know they've been reverse engineering them. They've been trying to exploit them for derivative technologies for decades. I know they haven't gotten far on it. But I know it's still a priority. I know they haven't gotten far on it, but I know it's still a priority. I know that UFOs and the subject itself are treated above weapons of mass destruction. In fact,

weapons of mass destruction departments will often engage the UAP to have a portfolio of UAP-related investigation because they know these power sources are dangerous if in the wrong hands. I know that people in government and people outside of government have had profound contact with what they believe are non-human intelligence. I know that this has been guarded as a secret to the point where there are suspicious deaths of people that worked on the program. We're supposed to testify. I know that as a fact. Yeah. And I know there's ongoing investigations into that. So you put all of that together and you're like, what power do I have? If

they wanted to reveal themselves, they would, whoever the hell they are. Right? Right. We're just two bearded guys talking on a podcast. Yep. But what we can do is we can demand to get as much information out as possible. Bring new hearings, try to do good journalism, release stories, have conversations like this. Otherwise we're powerless if we don't try to like, if we're not curious and we don't try to get to the bottom of this, we never will, man.

I'm an eternal optimist, dude. Well, I know, and I love that. And I am too. I mean, I feel like it's just a matter of time before somebody goes full Snowden with this stuff. It's just a matter of time before somebody, who knows? Maybe gets a bad diagnosis from a doctor. It's like you only have a few months to live.

Somebody like that. He's going to- So I've dealt with people like that. What? I've dealt with people like that. Don't you get the sense though that a mega leak is inevitable? And honestly, maybe this Epstein List shit,

because he just released the MLK files. He's trying to release anything to make people shut up about the Epstein List. It makes me think, is he going to fucking release the UAP files just to get people to leave him alone about that list? I wish, man. I wish, but I don't think presidents are really in control of that type. Unfortunately, I really, with this topic, it's very different.

It's very different because it's been hidden from presidents, it's been hidden within these compartmentalized calm bigot list, which is just like you have a specific list of people that can be on it. We saw that with the vice president of Lockheed Martin, who tried to transfer a UFO or UAP to the OSAP program, this is all documented, they tried to do it. And the head of the CIA calls in or has his minions call in and completely shut down this transfer,

which they allocated $22 million for. Wow. So yeah, that is fact, bro. That is documented fact. Well, what did they wait, documented fact, and they didn't say it was a UAP they were transferring in the document? 100% they did.

And on weird on a podcast on my show, we had the head of the DIA, Dr. James Lukatsky. He was on the show. He talked all about this. What the fuck? Yeah, it's like it should be bigger news you'd think, right? Wait, in the document, it's like we gotta move a fucking UFO.

Better than that. Better than that. Better than that. We had the guy that ran the program who went through a dopser process to make sure he could talk about it. And he came on and told us all about this. He told us about how they breached the hull of the UAP. They were able to finally to figure out

how to like get inside of it. And he stopped right there because he says, I am not like, I'll go to jail. He's like, I am not able to say more than that, because I went through the process of pre publishing what I could talk about. Yeah, it was a big deal, man. It's an it's a really funny clip, because he's a friend of mine, but I push him really hard. But Duncan back to this, you're talking about

deathbed confessions, talking about Snowden leaks. I'm not a proponent of a Snowden leak. And let me tell you why. I receive things all the time, and I need to assess them, not only if they're fake, but if they will do damage. So let me give you an example. Let's pretend you get a piece of footage, and that footage is sent to journalists. And in that footage, you see a really cool UAP that are doing something pretty cool. But in the footage that was sent to us, let's pretend hypothetically that there is a capability

of the camera to see like, I don't know, a Russian submarine or something like that. All of a sudden, if George Knapp and I say, Oh, great, we got UFOs. Let's put that out. We have damaged our national security because Russia had no idea. Right. Because suddenly Russia's like, Oh, fuck, we got to we need to change the way that we're building these submarines. And now they're they're invisible again. And yeah, I get it. Yeah, that's I get it, man. I get it. It's I'm gonna sticky place. So somebody does like a Snowden leak to me and George, I think that's very bad. Like meaning it would rely on us. Couple of knucklehead journalists.

So George is smarter than me. But it's like smart cop, a dumb cop with us. But like, you know, we've talked with intelligence agencies and like, look, we want to do no harm, but we got to report on stuff. And basically the message is don't fuck up. And I'm thinking, right. Oh, great. intelligence agencies and be like, look, we want to do no harm, but we got to report on stuff. And basically the message is don't fuck up. And I'm thinking, right, oh, great. I'm a really good person to assess that.

I have no capability to assess classification or importance. Right. So it's really hard to sort through some of this. That's crazy, man. Yeah. That is crazy. You are in such a weird, yes, weird in-between place, you know, yes, like on one side you have Weird as like me on the other side. You have actual

DoD people who are like, okay fine, but if you You know if you do anything When you would be in danger, you would be in danger probably. Yeah, and it's not just about me Like I'm not worried so much being, I'm just being a journalist in America, but I don't want to hurt the country I live in. And also is that going to really convince everybody this one piece of footage compared to another? So luckily over the years,

George and I have acquired a lot that we're assessing, but we don't just willy nilly put it out because we don't know the ramifications. We do our best in the kind of secret realm, right? We do our best to try to figure out is this going to move the ball forward is first of all, is this legitimate? Then if it is, is it going to move the ball forward? And then does it do any harm? Because there's no point in like harm here. We live

here, man. You know, you're in Austin and right anyway. So it is a rub, dude. And what I can say is that I think we just got to do our best with this one piece of footage is never going to convince anybody and it shouldn't it shouldn't. But maybe over time, a next piece of footage, a next piece of footage, and that starts a conversation, it gives people courage. And then we start hearing more of the truth. I mean, that's the goal is slow and steady, not just some sort of catastrophic disclosure

where everything's dumped in people's laps. Would we even believe it then? I don't know. Right. I know it would be easier to shoot down if it came that way. It would be easier to, you know, find a way to poke holes in it. Say it's unverified, it's fake, it's part real, part fake, it's a hodgepodge, we don't know what's real and what isn't, and then you know you forget about it, but if it came out

in hearings, if it came out over time, then that's permanent. And then, I mean, what is the, if you if you had to, I mean, sum it up, what do you think is the net benefit for humanity once Disclosure truly actually happens? Like the real thing. This episode of the DTFH is brought to you by Blue Chu. Now we all know there is an object from outside of our galaxy heading on a strange trajectory towards Earth that a Harvard professor is claiming could be a UFO. And you know what that means for me? Less powerful erections. That's why I subscribe to Bluetooth and get monthly Bluetooth tablets in the mail.

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If they are others, others, there are others. So here's the deal. What's the benefit? I first of all would like to live in a world where I see it like it is. I'd like to live in a natural environment where I know there's lions, tigers and bears and aliens, if that's what it is, or inter-dimensionals, right?

I think it gives us hope in a way that there are other civilizations that not only have had time to advance, and we hope that they advance also spiritually, so they're not just murderous beings colonizing planets, using AI to control the hive mind and then harvesting all that information like a satellite. Yeah, that could be true. I'd like to believe that knowledge of the natural world is empowering and beautiful, and that even if it's scary and a little bit dangerous, that it's better to have the eyes open as human beings.

I don't know where we're gonna get with all of this, but I hate being lied to, and I know we've been lied to. I know for a fact we've been lied to. And so the idea is can that lie persist? And I'm betting it can't. If we all kind of push for this, I'm not going to, I'm never going to be the one that's got the one thing that convinces even you, right? But I think altogether, if we have this conversation,

and we push forward, I'm going to try to do journalism with George Knapp, get the best evidence we have out, and I'm going to try to get people into Congress to give their testimony. And it will never be enough for the online masses, but it's the only path forward to keep pushing. And I feel like we're going gonna, if we get there, and there is an official global acknowledgement, I think human beings are so adaptable. And I think it will inspire creativity. It'll inspire this idea of longevity of species. It'll tell us that we're part of a larger community. And it might shed a lot of light on the technological innovation that's occurred over the last hundred years.

Jeremy, thank you so much for coming on the show, man. You are the best and thank you for the work you do. You know, I follow, I do follow closely what you've been up to. We worry about you and I don't know not to freak you out or anything. But I don't want the Department of Defense mad at me. No, man, I'm all warm and fuzzy with everybody. I've, you know, look, just take off your shoes and put on booties. There's nothing in my place. You know, my work is all kind of non-localized. So you don't have to worry about me. Nothing. I feel really good. I went through a period

where I was like really concerned because of the threats coming at me. but I realized no one's going to tell you they're going to kill you if they're going to kill you. They're going to do it. So I feel great. And I just want positive way. Did spin being murdered, bro. I know at some point you gotta let it go. You're right. You're right. And you know, yeah, you're right. And I think there's that your persistence, yeah, you're right. And I think that your persistence, your, you know, and how cautious you are about, I've shown you UFO clips that I hoped were UFOs,

I was like, that's not a UFO. Like every clip I've ever showed you, you're like, well, you don't say it like that. You're like, well, I would have some questions about this. So what I'm saying is, it's not like you just accept anything you see. Like you are scrupulous, you know? You are very detail focused and that is slow. And for people like me who would like to be on the ship, see what it smells like?

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What is this? And I'm like, I feel bad sometimes because I don't buy it and I could be wrong, but I'm like, here's what I see. Yeah, it's good. That's a,. It's good. Ultimately that's good. I don't want to be showing bullshit UFO footage to anybody. It's like you, it's embarrassing.

Yeah. It shouldn't be embarrassing, man. We should all like just put stuff out and talk about it but I want to leave you with this man. I don't know what that, you know, the object, the interstellar object or whatever the hell's you know coming our way. I don't think it's directly related to what I was saying. I'm not a fortune teller, dude. I don't even know where my coffee pot is going to go off. I was just warning people

of a trend that I saw as somebody in this space of people trying to convince me of nonsense to enroll me. People should still heed my warning. It's not about a year. They put that in the show 2027. It's not just about a year, man. This is about an ongoing campaign to tell you a couple lies. One that I do believe is coming if we're not already seeing it, which is that there's a slow moving interstellar craft that's coming and that will expand upon because I basically I read the idea of what they're going to try to disinfo people on. But second one is this idea that what you saw in 2004, the Tic Tac UAP was our technology, was Lockheed technology.

That is 100% absolute fucking bullshit. And it's verifiable if you just look at the history of the event and all the discoveries that people did around the time. But it catches hold in public media. You start to see this everywhere. I don't know what the ultimate truth is, but I do know we have new hearings coming up, might not be exactly what you want,

but it's exactly what you need. And hopefully those go well, and hopefully we will know more if we talk in six months from now than we do today. And if we're doing that, where every day we're learning a little bit more, then that's great, man. Amen. So I got it. Lockheed Martin's producing the technology

and you guarantee that the craft coming in is not an alien in the world. Man, you really cut through the bullshit right there. I'm a good listener. You must hear that. I'm a good listener. That's why I do a podcast. I got it.

Thank you. Thank you so much, Jeremy. That is really cool to hear. I'm a good listener! You must hear that! I'm a good listener! That's why I do a podcast! I got it, thank you! Thank you so much, Jeremy. That is really cool to hear. Whenever you hear the rumor about Lockheed making it, it's kind of a bummer. You're like, fuck! I mean, it's still cool. I mean, there's something weird. I'd be stoked!

It'd be fun to fly in one of those, but it's a little disappointing because you want it to be. I'd be stoked if we had that kind of tech imagine how it would change our world that the sad part to me is that we don't and Until like commander favor said this and until America's like an alcoholic to the UFO thing until we admit there's a problem Then we're never gonna be able to deal with it So that's what I'm you know kind of fighting for right now is let's get as much information out. Let's digest it. Let's keep going forward inch by inch. Life's a cinch yard by yard. Life is hard. Let's just fucking fight for it, man. All right. Jeremy,

God bless you. Thank you so much. That was amazing. Thank you. Thank you, my brother. A big thanks to Jeremy Corbell for being on the show. Do listen to his podcast, Weaponized, and thank you for watching or listening. You guys are the best. I'll see you next week.