Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 718: A Sensitive Alpha's Grimoire

Episode Date: October 12, 2025

People are correct to be suspicious of the synthetic meat of Meat Canyon, but the forest clowns are innocent! Omaha family! Duncan is headed your way October 17 & 18. Come see him at the Funny Bo...ne Comedy Club! Click here to get your tickets now. This episode is brought to you by: Visit trueclassic.com/DUNCAN to save. Shop now and elevate your wardrobe today. Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at square.com/go/duncan! Run your business smarter with Square. Get started today! Check out squarespace.com/DUNCAN for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, use OFFER CODE: DUNCAN to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Brazil poxie leafy dips, turn house the kill blip. Or Zach Black Cat, Fungle Fishman, Hungle trash can reap lips. Well, hello! I didn't see you there. It's just working on my art, my drawings. As an artist, it's important to me to spend as much time in my notebook here. This is more than just a notebook. It's a, I guess you could say, it's a grimloar, it's a mirror, and I call this one Meat Canyon.
Starting point is 00:00:45 The story of Meat Canyon is a long one. I don't have time to share it with you today. But there's a lot of interesting people that live in Meat Canyon. There's a lot of friends in Meat Canyon, and sadly, there's enemies in Meat Canyon. There's people who just can't get along, and there's some people who feel like there's no escape from Meat Canyon. And I understand why they might think that. Meat Canyon is surrounded by an impenetrable wall of meat. It doesn't rot. You think it would, and it's almost impossible to cut meat off of it. It's been tried.
Starting point is 00:01:28 If you could cut meat from Meat Canyon, then a lot of the problems of the canyon itself wouldn't be there anymore. Everybody would have plenty of meat. You see, at Meat Canyon, meat's one of the hardest things to find. It's incredible art. And I guess I want to show this to you because I think a lot of people out there think that, you know, they're not great artists. And I really hate that. Because yeah, am I
Starting point is 00:02:04 a great artist? Like, clearly when you look at some of the work that I've done, you're going to think, holy shit. Yeah, I mean, you're basically you're basically Van Gogh. But, you know, I've dedicated myself to this. Alpha males. Love, laugh,
Starting point is 00:02:24 lift. I've been trying to do inspirational alpha males stuff. And as you could see on the other page, that's a Meat Canyon mom. Thank you so much. Now, Meat Canyon, a lot of people ask, how did it get there? And how did people end up trapped in Meat Canyon? I don't like to use the term trapped. It's a controversial term in Meat Canyon. Some people say there's nothing outside the meat. wall. Sometimes people have tried to get drones to go over the meat wall and the drones disappear. Supposedly, there was a helicopter pilot front to Admiral Bird who made it somewhere into the meat wall and returned. And when he came back, you wouldn't talk about what he saw there.
Starting point is 00:03:24 That really, to me, isn't what Meat Canyon's about. And I know everyone's talking about. about Meat Canyon right now, seems to be people are almost polarized over the discussion of Meat Canyon. What does it mean? What's your view on it? Why doesn't someone try to save those people? But to me, the conversation that always gets left out when it comes to Meet Canyon are the clowns of Meat Canyon. Now, the clowns of Meat Canyon, they're interesting in the sense that they're not like normal clowns. They've got a lot of status in Meat Canyon. And there's a forest in Meat Canyon that it's massive.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And the story I want to tell you today is a story. Maybe you've heard it. Maybe you've seen the Dateline episode on it. but it's a story of Chad Goverinson. Now, Chad Govertson was the quarterback at Meat Canyon High. And he was a very popular kid. I don't want to do the thing. And sadly, it is a thing that people seem to not,
Starting point is 00:04:45 I don't think anyone means any harm about it, but I do love the concept of not speaking ill of the dead. So I don't want to, I'm not going to say a lot of terrible things about Chad, but I do think if I don't say some of the things that we have heard about Chad, that people act like I'm trying to whitewash the story of Chad. Was he a bully? Did Chad shove Todd French's head into the toilet and give him a swirly is what they call in Meat Canyon? It's where you shove the kid's head in the toilet and flush it when there's a turd floating in there.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Did Chad take a big shit in that toilet and grab a kid and shove his head into it and flush the toilet so the turd bobbled all around his head and didn't even go down? Yeah, I think that's true. There's video of it. We've seen it. But that's just one angle of Chad. And regardless of whether Chad did or did not shove a kid's face into a toilet with a stinky turd in there that he'd just blasted out, Chad's not with us anymore. He can't defend himself.
Starting point is 00:05:57 The McGovern family is wrecked. And so I don't want to get too conspiratorial here, but I've seen footage of McGovern's funeral, and it was touching. People sat and it was open casket. The whole school showed up. It wasn't just the cheerleaders. three of them pregnant. It wasn't just the jocks. It was the nerds.
Starting point is 00:06:29 It was the outcasts. It was valedictorians. It was teachers. Even the janitor. Willie Tampson was there. And they were all moved by what Chad's brother had to say. And what he had to say was, I don't think my brother was killed by clowns.
Starting point is 00:06:49 now let's look at the facts Chad McGovern was known for taking cheerleaders out into that forest and banging them down he wrote about it in his journal I'm not going to well I'll read a little bit from it because I do think it's part of the story happened again
Starting point is 00:07:19 Sally Carson sucked my dick and it was unlike anything I'd ever experienced. What the fuck? I don't even know what I am anymore. She blew me hard and put her finger deep inside of me. I never thought I'd like that shit, but as it turns out, it got me off good. Yeah, she's a got off good.
Starting point is 00:07:44 At least, almost like no other. Now, this is an interesting part, here because in his journal he'd marked out several lines and i don't want to get into the gossip about his best friend trevor but a lot of people speculate perhaps there was something going on there and that he was referring to getting blown by his best friend trevor i don't know i don't care he seemed to have like a really like powerful sex drive and he was a quarterback and you know there's a lot of testosterone there but let's get down to brass tax let's go through the murder scene itself and again you guys can look this up i'm not going to pull it up i don't want to get
Starting point is 00:08:39 IP violations. But apparently Chad McGovern's body was found by Bridget Lake, which was the place that he would go to bang down cheerleaders. Now, his body had been
Starting point is 00:08:56 ritualistically dismembered. The hands had been removed from the arms. The feet had been removed from the legs. His nipples according to the police report were abnormally inflated and protruding from holes
Starting point is 00:09:15 that had been cut in his sports jersey horrifying detail but I think it's important to just look at the brutality of what happened and of course Chad McGovern was wearing a clown nose so I'm going to put a clown nose
Starting point is 00:09:35 on Chad McGovern now that's where the news kind of ends the murder was unsolved nobody knows what happened and it's a cold case in meet canyon but having done my own research having gone to the meat canyon subreddit having had conversations with people who actually live in meat canyon yes you can contact them there the phone still works somehow I want to talk about clown school. We all have stories that we talk about when we're in high school. Maybe you remember when you were in high school,
Starting point is 00:10:17 some haunted house, some scary part of your town, some area that was cursed inhabited by Satanus, a place you weren't supposed to go. And in Meek Canyon, there's no way that you're going to escape. hearing about clown school. Now, according to legend, underneath the forest that Chadman Governe was going to bang down cheerleaders is a labyrinth of tunnels. Now, this is true. There is a limestone cave underneath that forest, but it's uninhabited. There've been a couple of
Starting point is 00:10:54 caving accidents there, but the bodies were recovered. I can't remember his name. A French dude went there to seeking out hieroglyphics that he claims were down there and they found him trapped in a crevice uh his pants soiled with piss and shit normal kind of cave death that's what's going to happen if you get stuck in any crevice at all but according to the urban legend around Meek Canyon. Somewhere in that limestone cave is a school for clowns run by clowns, filled with clowns, and this is where the wandering clowns of Meek Canyon emerge from. Now, seeing a clown in Meek Canyon is generally considered to be good luck. I don't agree with it. I would hate it, but supposedly the night before you get married, a clown will come to your
Starting point is 00:11:56 window and tap three times if you are going to have a successful marriage. There's footage of this. You can watch it. It does happen. One of the clowns, as you know, Binky was captured by kids who set a snare out in the woods in front of their sister's house the night before her wedding. And it's shaky footage and stuff, but they were asking, where do you come from? What are you?
Starting point is 00:12:24 And he just honked his clown horn, did a backflip snapping the snare that was holding him down, and ran off into the forest. The next day, those kids died in a car accident, completely unrelated, but it's one of those weird coincidences that makes you scratch your chin. Now, here's where it gets interesting. Recovered from Chad McGovern's bedroom. I'll just read the letter. It was an envelope. It was sealed with wax that had a picture of a clown in it. And I'll just read to you.
Starting point is 00:13:04 You are hereby invited to enroll in clown school. We feel that you have what it takes to be a world-class clown, Chad. And we hope you accept our invitation. In fact, you have no choice. Signed, the magistrate. What was it? Nobody knows. Did Chad McGovern...
Starting point is 00:13:33 Did Chad McGovern say no? And was he murdered by clowns for refusing to go to clown school? I'd love to know your thoughts. Leave him down below in the comments. Thank you, goodbye. It is weird, though. it is weird i mean you've heard about this shit right josh what are your thoughts on it well first of all i think the clowns there's a lot of blame going on the clowns because they know that the meat
Starting point is 00:14:04 canyon that the meat surrounding it is synthetic that's why it never rots right and so that's what they call it clown school but it's not clown school they're teaching them why it's synthetic why they have to stay in meat canyon that i love that theory i've heard it too yeah and that that's why they put the nose on them and to to frame them and so i mean oh so you're You think the clowns were framed. Yeah, because they know the truth. Look, all I know is I would don't want to fuck with the clowns of Meek Canyon. Now, you know, I'm sure you've read, what's that fucking book?
Starting point is 00:14:37 JFK, the Golden Trapeze. And a lot of people say that these, that, yeah, it's like they call it clown school, but it isn't a clown school. It's a training facility for like the CIA that the whole fucking thing is some kind of CIA experiment that started uh in the 60s it's some kind of mk ultra shit that the synthetic meat i don't even i've heard it's i've heard it's not synthetic i've heard it pulses when you touch it that it seems to be kind of alive i don't know i've heard that uh you know it's one of the many mysteries of the canyon but yeah what i've heard is that these fucking this thing is like a training facility because and that john wayne gasey can you pull up a picture of john wing gasey as a
Starting point is 00:15:23 clown, that John Wayne Gacy escaped from Meek Canyon. Have you ever seen John Wayne Gacy's art? Pull up John Wayne Gacy's art. Doesn't some famous politician have that up in there? What's that?
Starting point is 00:15:41 House. Some politician, a famous politician, has John Wayne Gacy's art in their house. I can't remember who. Ah, no way. Look that up. Is that true? Who the fuck would put that in there? damn fucking house. Look at his fucking art. That's not him. That's someone doing a picture of John.
Starting point is 00:16:00 That's at the very top, Getty images. That's his fucking art. Who the fuck would put that in their house? Going for 375. Medium. What? No, that's a print.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Can you look up by original John Wayne Gacy art? John Wayne Gasey. sold at auction prices. Pogo the clown. View sold prices. You got to log in, you fucking assholes. I guess go on eBay. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:16:39 That's not... That is... Oh, God! Jesus, that's one of his worst ones. But I enlarged that. Estimated $3,000 to $6,000 with a signed fucking letter from John Wayne Gacy.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Can you imagine buying that? What the fuck, man? What world are we living in right now? Al Burb says that's a steal. There you go. Pedophile who sexually is... I guess you can't. say that. What are you supposed to say instead of that?
Starting point is 00:17:26 PDF. PDF who sexually assault is too late now, I guess. Open that up. PDF who sexually assaulted Drake Bell flaunted painting by serial killer John Wayne Gasey. New Doc reveals. As long as we're going down this dark
Starting point is 00:17:43 path, Josh, did you hear about that singer who had a dead body in his trunk? And it was a 15-year-old What the fuck is that? And he had songs. About it. Dude.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Do you followed that at all? Pull that up. Thank you. David, I guess, or D4VD. How do you say it? Does anyone how do you say it? Difford? Teen girl's body found in singer Difford's car.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Diffids? How do you say his name? Oh, you just say David. Well, it looks like Diff Ford Vd. DeForvid Singer Oh sorry, I'll go back Thank you
Starting point is 00:18:28 Singer DeForvids tour canceled after dismembered body of 15 year old Celeste Rivas found in his Tesla And it is That this rabbit hole is fucking deep, dude Like it's so
Starting point is 00:18:43 goddamn creepy And I, you know, when I heard about it I'm like, oh, I wonder what his music's like Not bad If you listen to his music No, I wish we could play it it's like it's pretty good do you guys like his music let me look do you know the song well we can't play it well i know i was just going to look at the lyrics oh yeah a murder song
Starting point is 00:19:06 the name of the song is i murdered my girlfriend and put her in my car i can sing it pull up the lyrics of romantic homicide i'll sing it just probably better than he did it d la fale Lett says you could play it now. He's being dropped by his level. No, that'll still get you, man. Here, I'll sing it. I'm scared. It feels like you don't care.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Ooh, enlighten me, my dear. Ooh, why am I still here? I don't mean to be complacent with the decisions you made. But why? in the back of my mind you're dying and I don't even cry and I're not a single tear I'm sick of waiting patiently
Starting point is 00:20:02 with someone that won't even arrive it's crazy he's saying in the back of my mind because he wants to say in the back of his car right in the back of my crying I killed you and I don't even regret it can't believe I said it but it's true I hate you
Starting point is 00:20:22 But wait Songwriter is David Burke Wilden Darmawan He didn't write it Oh shit Pull up Willem Darmawan Just because he's got a cooler name
Starting point is 00:20:38 Wilden Darmawan Is he got a Wikipedia? He's got his own music I guess it's this guy They must be friends or something I thought he wrote it Writer's David How did it take two people
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Starting point is 00:22:34 You should be wearing a true classic tea. You can find them on Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club, or add to trueclassic.com forward slash Duncan to try them out for yourself. That guy didn't write it. Did that guy write it? What was the song called again? Um, you guys, what was the song called? Oh, Adam is saying the song got released in July 2022, well before the girl went missing.
Starting point is 00:23:15 you Adam. Still look up David Burke. How the fuck did it take two people to write that song? I'm not trying to be a dick, but it didn't. There you go. David Anthony Burke, known professionally. Oh, he wrote it. Of course his name isn't DeForffit.
Starting point is 00:23:35 But he did write it with that other dude, Wilhelm. Go back to that song. I need to analyze this for a second. Try to imagine. how that took two people to write. Are there any songwriters in the audience here? Could somebody explain this to me? Well, maybe one of them just went, ooh, you know?
Starting point is 00:23:55 And then he's just like, hey, I want a writer for that. Of course. Yeah. That's what happened. They were just stoned and he started writing this dumb song. It really is a dumb song. But when you hear it, it sounds pretty good. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I was actually not liking that I liked it. You know, because he's like a murderer. A fucking PDF murderer. Yep. But, yeah, it's like, what do you, are you, like, this is clearly like an old person not knowing what's popular anymore, but is, did you, have you guys heard of him before? Chat? If you, if you guys heard of him, is this like a, I don't know if there's how many youngs are in the chat, but are you, are you aware of this guy? No, says spin out.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Never says Crunkle. So no one even fucking heard of this guy until he, he was accused of murder. not till now no idea now i'm 33 and no didn't hear of him until the body what the fuck no no one even heard of him oh he's in the streamer universe oh okay constrobis says yes i have never heard of him mostly never heard of him stephen e says i recuse myself due to age self-banned five minutes i don't know what it means but it's creepy the fuck what do you mean you're what would you do, Stephen? What songs have you written? It's a younger gen thing. D. La Fulette says microculture stuff is wild. It is, isn't it? Isn't it wild? Micraculture is so weird.
Starting point is 00:25:33 These little mini-petri dishes full of so many odd dramas, controversies. It's wild. I mean, you know, I'm, I guess you could argue that I happen to be in one of these fucking things. I'll read something to you. Let me see if I can find it. I just, I feel like I should say this. Like, I, you know, there was a time years ago where a Christian would, like every once in a while I'll send me these, he was, they were listening to my podcast. and they would send me these emails, really long emails trying to convert me to Christianity.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And I'd read them. I was interested. It seemed fascinating. Someone was spending that much time. Sending me emails is curious. But, you know, at the time, I'm just like, oh, whatever. Didn't move the needle at all. But I just feel like I need to say this.
Starting point is 00:26:37 nothing has pushed me in the direction of Christianity more than messages like the one I'm about to read to you that I've been getting. I just got to read this to you. Like, whoever wrote this, I just want you to know that you have succeeded where many have failed. Like, really? Find this on my subreddit, which just won the most positive. happy subreddit on Reddit Award.
Starting point is 00:27:10 So thank you for that, whoever voted for that. Heartbreak and disappointment. Someone wrote this. I just think, I feel like I need to, like, a person sat down and wrote this. With everything going on, I thought to myself, I had to listen to Duncan for some support,
Starting point is 00:27:35 some uplifting messages just to be seen he's always been a comfort in that way i haven't listened to his pod and maybe a year or so i jumped in today and got the egy yi episode don't know what that which one that was egy y episode what episode is that josh e g why oh elephant graveyard oh and got the elephant graveyard episode and was disgusted who was that how has he gotten to be a christian dick rider I'm so saddened and never thought we would be here. Maybe we missed signs. Maybe it's totally out of the blue. Just glad I'm not the only one feeling this way.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I don't even know the whole situation, but I know enough. What the fuck? That is the cr- someone wrote that. Like, somebody went on that episode where I was talking. about John the Baptist, I believe, partially because I had just been to a mass where they were talking about John the Baptist, but also just I knew like people who are inflexing from that dystopian dumer subreddit would be really like the last thing they'd want to hear about is anything Christian. But the idea, maybe you're in the chat right now, that you
Starting point is 00:29:05 would take time out of your day to say you I get heartbreak and disappointment maybe you believe the hoarse shit about me being compromised okay fine you know if I if I really enjoyed somebody
Starting point is 00:29:24 and I thought that they were compromised by oligarchs it would bother me I'm not by the way you can see I don't even want to talk about it anymore I'm fucking stale now But the idea that your heart is broken by the possibility that I might be diving into Christianity is so insane to me, so insane. This is not the only post of this nature. And to me, what is really invigorating about it and illuminating about it is that what episode would this be,
Starting point is 00:30:05 if we put this one up. What is it? It was 700 plus episodes of this podcast. Like 712, 713. 712 episodes of this podcast. I've interviewed. Are he Christians? Buddhists?
Starting point is 00:30:21 Muslims? One Muslim. Jews. Satanists. Occultists. And a variety of other people. I can't recall all of them. None of you gave a shit.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Nobody cared. Nobody was like, I can't believe Duncan's interviewing the head of the temple of Satan. Interview one bishop. One Catholic bishop. And, like, I've been getting, like, so a lot of, like, like, I think you could call it. Like, isn't it technically bigotry to, like, attack? Doesn't that make you a bigot if you attack anyone for their? religion, Josh, isn't?
Starting point is 00:31:06 No, it doesn't count with Christian. But, I mean, technically. Like, let me look at Bigot real quick here. Maybe I'm wrong about the definition of bigot. Oh, yeah. A person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people, on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
Starting point is 00:31:40 It's literally, like, at least from this perspective, whoever wrote that is like a bigot. You're a bigot. Christian dick riding? Ugh. So gross. Even the way you said it is gross. But that's just one of like many weird pushbacks.
Starting point is 00:32:05 against me talking about Christianity that has got me, like, seriously thinking, like, maybe I'll become a Catholic. Just because how is this thing so potent? How is this thing so powerful that it would upset people in the way that it seems to upset people? Like, why? I know it's not all of you, by the way. But why is it that, like, I could talk about the Bhagavad Gita. I am the taste in water and the heat and fire.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I am the intelligence of the intelligent and the life of all that lives. It's one of my favorite verses from the Gita. You guys love it. Nobody's like, damn, he's doing Hindu dick riding. Why is it that, like, I could chant Ari Krishna. Oh, Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Kishan, Kishan, Kishan. Om money, my name, but me, um. I could do some Om money pod.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Rum, rom, rom, rom, rom, rom. Why is it that I can do all of those things? But if I start talking about the Christian lineage, it upsets people. Like, in really, I'm confused. I, like, have you ever been to a church? Nothing's going on there. It's sinister. Like, it's, like, it's boring sometimes.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I guess that's the most sinister. Mr. Part. I'm just curious. I'm going to look at the chat now. It's been outside and not Christian Dick Rider, Buddhist reverse cowgirl. Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck? Wait, what's reverse cowgirl?
Starting point is 00:33:57 Oh, it's the best. So instead of, she rides on top, but the opposite way. So it's like a lazy dog, doggy style. I got to look it up. I don't have that kind of brain man I can't picture Hold on reverse cowgirl Yeah they're riding you
Starting point is 00:34:10 But just turn the other way Oh that looks amazing Yeah I know what you're talking about You get to look at their ass Mm-hmm And then they look down and then they see like Your feet Or they look further down
Starting point is 00:34:26 It looks like they have balls Because they're facing the other way And they just see your balls That you know Cool Yeah. Ball, my case, unfortunately. But, wow, okay. Let's see. Reverse cowgirl sex position.
Starting point is 00:34:51 In this position, one partner sits on top of the other, facing away from them. The person on top does most of the moving and has most of the control. Yeah. And then if they're flexible, they can do reverse chandelier, it's reverse cowgirl but then they're like bent backwards who names these i don't know what
Starting point is 00:35:09 there a naming convention is there some kind of group of people that meet every year to go over i think it's just intuitive and we all just come up with it no it's no it's not intuitive i would never think reverse cowgirl if someone was doing that to me i would just be thinking like god i don't feel bad for them i'm gonna stare at my feet they don't do it to you they do it for you okay you don't have to get all fucking sensitive on me it would be for me yeah obviously but I would be I would want to pull the covers
Starting point is 00:35:38 over my feet I need to go to I gotta get my feet worked on they're not doing good dude I've got an old man feet and like the ultimate reverse cowgirls they put a lasso around your feet
Starting point is 00:35:47 and right when you come they pull back on your feet what does that do it straightens out your feet like that so you're locked in position and you can't go nowhere how do you know this I do a lot of podcast
Starting point is 00:35:58 yeah have you ever had someone do that to you uh the rope thing no reverse cowgirl yes it's my that's my favorite by far so but the rope thing let's talk about that yeah what's that going to do again uh so right when you nut they lasso and they rope your feet together and they pull back they have to fucking know how to use a lasso oh they're a real cowgirl yeah but they're not Josh this is the lady is riding you what this is Texas there's a lot of cowgirls and Texas. You don't ride cows.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah, well, they do in the rodeo. They ride cows sometimes and bulls. And isn't it more like reverse cowboy? No, reverse cowboy is, well, they do do that, but that's a different. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. So let's get back to the, what I, missed, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I got distracted by this incredible. I'm going to go pull up the chat here. I really mean it. Like, I'm legitimately, like, confused. And it takes a lot to really, like, for me to be, like, genuinely, like, perplexed in this way. Let me look it up here. Let's see if anybody has anything wants to weigh in. desert dweller
Starting point is 00:37:33 assuming sarkot don't go down the Christian rabbit old man you'll start realizing that Christ is king and evil shit like that I like Devin Browns said
Starting point is 00:37:52 Reverse cowboy involves three to four balls I love that we're having a split conversation about reverse cowgirl and the persecution of Christians is a fashion attitude. Oh, Julian gave you 20. Jesus Christ, Julian, why'd you do that? Okay, I'm going to jump to that because we live in capitalism.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Julian McKinney says, Duncan, should we manage our empathy? It seems easier to get angry or numb than to empathize because feeling the pain of what someone is experiencing can be so overwhelming. How do we protect ourselves when being empathetic? oh man I you know that I think you already
Starting point is 00:38:40 in your in your in your question is that what I think is the answer because you've identified why people don't do that there's a sense of vulnerability when you do that it fucks the game up significantly
Starting point is 00:38:57 and by game I mean the game of being right because you want to like basically like there's a sense that there's you and there's other people and though maybe you have some like general low level apprehension that these people probably are experiencing reality in the way you are they probably have the same general desire to be happy that you have they probably have moms that love them and we're adorable little babies and deserve happiness
Starting point is 00:39:35 in the same way you deserve happiness. In other words, they're human. But they're dicks. The shit that they're doing is just fucked up and you can't believe it. You can't fucking believe it. These are like legitimate, like high-level assholes. And so
Starting point is 00:39:56 once you have decided this person's an asshole then you can now successfully execute some kind of vengeance on them whether it's just simple, petty humiliating them by exposing them as being complete dipshits or some kind of long-term campaign
Starting point is 00:40:19 or whatever maybe but the moment you look into their eyes and like look past the story that you are both probably living in and realize that, like, number one, they think you're an asshole, man. Like, they see you in the same light. And you know you're not an asshole. Are you perfect?
Starting point is 00:40:43 No. But are you an asshole? Come on. I'm not an asshole. But they think you are. Because they're just projecting onto you. They don't know. The main thing is many people seem to be a mystery under themselves.
Starting point is 00:40:58 They surprise themselves. They do things and they're like, I don't know why I did that. Ask any kid. Why'd you do that? And they'll be like, I don't know. I don't know. And they don't. They just did it.
Starting point is 00:41:13 It continues on through our whole lives. That's why we have therapists, therapy. So if we can't really fully know ourselves in any kind of real way, how the fuck could you know if someone's actually an asshole? you're just going off a very tiny bit of data based on some shit they did which probably sucked maybe they were tired
Starting point is 00:41:36 maybe their mom just died in a car accident maybe they just got some bad news maybe they've got some kind of like neurodivergent shit going on maybe they had low blood sugar high blood sugar not to say therefore it's okay to do shitty things but when you start just doing the basic mind analysis of a sudden your case for being a complete motherfucker to these people, it becomes weakened
Starting point is 00:42:03 to the point where if you can drop the story altogether and realize that like there's so many people that love this person, there's so many people that get happy when this person calls them, there might be kids that just cheer with joy when this person comes home. This person is going to be an old person at some point. A person's going to be laying in a hospital bed or a nursing home or a hospice. The sound of the oxygen going. It would be sad people around this person. People are going to cry.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And this person at some point had a mom who picked him up when they fell and kissed their face and said, I love you. It's okay. Once you start doing that, it's like. motherfucker man now I can't like stick my finger out the window and say you fucking piece of shit what the fuck is it drive like an asshole day you motherfucker because that suddenly the person gains all of these dimensions to them they aren't asshole dimensions human dimension and so then now you're vulnerable because the this the idea
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yeah, it's a very, it's like very, like, old testament. Eye for an eye, tooth for a dooth. I don't defend myself against the asshole in some way, shape, or form, then the asshole will continue to assault me. Therefore, I must teach them, don't fuck with me, man. I mean, it's like the, it's how we justify the military industrial complex, you know? Like, what does it they always say? Peace through strength.
Starting point is 00:43:51 so that's a lot of people live their life like that and how are you going to like do a war if the whole time you're like you're never going to hear at any military training facility soldiers remember the people whose brains you're blowing out were once beautiful babies
Starting point is 00:44:12 the people who you're murdering many of them have children the people that you will kill out there are going to have weeping mothers, sisters, brothers, and friends once they hear the news. The people that you are going to kill, many of them don't even want to be in the war, but we're conscripted. You won't hear that because you can't do a war that way.
Starting point is 00:44:35 It doesn't work. You have to completely dehumanize the other side. And so, as above so below, if you want to successfully justify your aggression, you're not going to get there through empathy you're going to get there through the opposite of empathy othering a mistake essentially this person is barely even a person they're a walking fucking mistake yeah or they got there because they deserve to be there and I'm just going to I'm helping I'm helping the world in some way by hurting them maybe they won't hurt someone now you know whatever you're using usually it's not so extreme usually you're just getting some
Starting point is 00:45:19 kind of grim satisfaction like if you've ever scratched a infection you know they're fucked around with an infection that's itchy feels good in this fucked up way you know you shouldn't do it but it's kind of a good feeling but you know it's making it worse it's like that it's not a good feeling so the question is should we like manage that if you're at a place where you need to manage your empathy, I think you're doing great. I think most of us don't have that as a problem. I think most of us are not like, oh my God, what am I going to do with all this universal compassion and empathy? I think most of us have to do mental backflips to jump out of the mind prison into the heart because the heart just loves. And that is annoying
Starting point is 00:46:17 these days especially. So you have to find a way to universalize everybody. I love like Romdoss's breakdown of like these different channels that we live in. So like, you know, like you've got the geopolitical cultural channel
Starting point is 00:46:35 that a lot of us are very tuned into right now. And that's just one channel. Flip the, flip it. And then suddenly it's like, it's a group of sentient bipedal wingless hominids living on a planet together just trying to trying to like harmonize in some way trying to be happy trying to have food in their belly and a roof over there nobody deserves any really bad thing to happen to them
Starting point is 00:47:04 any more than you do now that's a weird channel to land on because these days everybody's just begging you to like other some section of society and so then you know you stumble upon Christianity and it's it's crazy what it's telling you to do then suddenly like you stop looking at people like people who are being fucked up you you look at them as like people who just need help And God sent them to you so that you could help them. What the fuck? That is crazy. Give them.
Starting point is 00:47:52 What is that? Let me look up this Bible first. Maybe somebody in the chat can help me find this. But there's one of the verses, I don't know where it's from. It's in the gospels, but it's like, you know, love your enemy. like yeah you love your family so what like snakes love their fucking family it's just an animal nothing's that special about it but
Starting point is 00:48:22 what happens when you universalize love it's crazy that is a crazy thing crazy that that makes people mad like that kind of message upsets people it's just really gives me exorcist five too like why would that upset you it's maybe i mean it's a little unrealistic it's a little bit like when i was in like gym class in the third grade and was fat and the gym teacher wanted me to do
Starting point is 00:48:53 a pull-up that you might as well have been asking me to like do a triple backflip matthew chapter five verse 44 okay let me look it out but i tell you love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you where's the one about the animals you had another super chat I hope that helped answer your question to some degree Cole Klasner thank you for the donation
Starting point is 00:49:25 as someone who lives in Indiana I was rebellious against Christianity when I found Buddhism and Hinduism but I quickly outgrew that when I realize there's a lot to learn from it see you this weekend that's going to be fun look you know that's the other thing about it is, you know, I've heard this from more than just like Ram Dass,
Starting point is 00:49:47 but from people who were in India and met Neme Kroly Baba, Ram Dass's guru. And he would always talk about Jesus. They said he talked about Jesus more than he talked about Hahnemann or Hindu symbols. He was always talking about Jesus to the Westerners because he knew that, like, that's what the culture that they'd come up in. And he was just totally comfortable using Christian symbols to articulate the transcendent message. So it's like, I guess it's like it's cool if it comes from the other side of the planet or something.
Starting point is 00:50:23 But if it's coming from like some local church, it's irrelevant at that point. It's just, look, let's face it. It's not as sexy. It's not, it's like, it's, it's, it's a, it's not as cool. I get that. Mala beats are fucking awesome. Nothing I've ever seen is more beautiful and entrancing than watching devotees do puja in front of deities at a heart Krishna temple. Blowing conch shells and incense burning and it's fucking wildly beautiful. support for today's episode comes from square the system powering like half the places I go
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Starting point is 00:53:14 but like i don't know like i wasn't raised studied study like i wasn't raised studied like Jatanya Mahaprabu or the various aspects of the Hary Krishna's or reading the Vedas or Ramayana or any of that stuff. So, you know, a lot of the stuff I'm looking, I don't know what it is other than it's pretty. There's peacock feathers, which I think they accept. That's fine, they will say. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:53:54 But with Christianity, many, it's like, it seems like it connects to some degree in a, with like us then maybe some of that other stuff does it's more accessible and to me the again like where i've really like where a lot of like the the and it hasn't been it's not like i'm getting like assuaged with anti-christian bigotry but i've gotten enough that that It's given me like a sense of like, whoa, there must be something real here. I got to get into this because nobody was doing that when I was like chanting Harry Krishna all the time. And that's something fascinating to me. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:54:49 It's cool. I've been hanging out with these Catholics. They're awesome. Like they're just sweet. Nobody's doing anything. Nothing. There doesn't, there's not like a sense. of anything other than just they're nice
Starting point is 00:55:02 they're not I mean I guess you're not getting love bombed you know which which can happen in some like cults and stuff there isn't love bombing but it just seems to be a general humanist sort of approach to existence that I like Tolkien study
Starting point is 00:55:21 thank you so much Duncan what's the funniest memory you have of Brent Weinbach did you see he interviewed me I didn't see that Tolkien study loyal purple pope well you know one thing about brend he's a great piano player i don't know if you knew that or not i know people know that about him but like i can remember seeing him like just sit down in front of a piano and just like it's very talented oh thank you for asking me this i'm glad
Starting point is 00:55:51 we're addressing many of these allegations that are being thrown my way says, Duncan, how do you answer to the allegations saying you can't whistle? Another vile attack. Another vile attack. Truly, I just, it is something astounding, folks. It really is. It's astounding. They're just out of the blue.
Starting point is 00:56:15 A mob. People have gathered around my digital doorstep with their torches of waving, saying things to me like, I can't. Whistle. I can wishle. I'm a wonderful wishler. I love to wishle. I whistle in the shower sometimes. I whistle in the morning when I wake up to greet the day and I whistle before I go to bed, just like any man in America should do. It's a masculine thing to whistle. In my gym, you see power lifters and they're always whistling as they lift those weights. It's a masculine thing. John Wayne was an incredible Whistler, Winston Churchill, wishled. It's a sign of virility. It's a sign of power. It's a sign you're
Starting point is 00:57:03 an alpha. And the number one way I can tell someone is a beta is they can't whistle. So when people tell me I can't whistle, they're calling me a beta cuck. And I can wishle. I love to wishle. I love pursing my lips, blowing air out, and hearing that sweet whistle emerge from my lips It fills me with joy And it feels the people around me with joy Because in this world I do believe people want to help And they just don't know how And if you want to make a group of people happy
Starting point is 00:57:33 Whether you're on an elevator or a subway Going up some stairs Whether you're in the back of your Uber If you really want to thank your Uber driver Don't tip them with money Tip them with a whistle Whistle through the whole ride They love it
Starting point is 00:57:49 That's what I do every time every time I'll say to them I'm going to give you something more valuable and those rectangular bits of paper covered in Masonic Symbology. I'm going to whistle to you so I can whistle I'm just leave it of that. People said they heard a lot of talking but no whistling. So I guess that's what you want.
Starting point is 00:58:11 You want me to whistle on demand and that's the other thing that this mob has been, that's another thing this mob has been doing. They want me to say this or that. They want me to whistle. They want me to wishle. They want to make, that's what they want. It's mind control. It's a mind control program, folks.
Starting point is 00:58:28 By making the allegation that I can't whistle, they think they can manipulate me into whistling publicly. And I have whistled. Go back through the podcast. I'm sure you can find many an episode where I only wishled, where I whistled and whistled and whistled. And I will whistle this afternoon. I'll whistle when the cameras go off.
Starting point is 00:58:47 You've heard me whistle right, Josh. Yeah. say it a little more convincingly you've heard me whistle i've heard you whistle why are you smiling when you say it i've whistled in front of josh i loved a whistle for him because you were twerking at the same time it was very weird ah there you go you whistle while you twerk that's them that's exactly right i whistle while i twerk and i love the sound of my own wishle but i'm not going to left so i'm not going to let the mob force me into whistling i'm not going to go down that path the moment you the moment that you get bullied into whistling
Starting point is 00:59:22 is the moment you are no longer a man. My dad used to tell me that. And I don't tell you how many times in the schoolyard a bunch of young ruffs would gather around me. Whistle! Whistle! You can't whistle! Whistle! And I knew if I did it,
Starting point is 00:59:38 if I succumbed to their aggression, if I compromised, I would bring infamy upon my family. I might as well go to every single one of my ancestors, graves and take a big hot shit right on the headstones it's not easy unless they're the flat headstones getting perching on the top it's hard i'm not going to do that i'm not going to wishle for it just because you're trying to bully me into wish i can whistle and i love to whistle we had two more superchats wow thanks y'all this is amazing thank you so much
Starting point is 01:00:20 uh even in see thank you i don't know how to say that because it looks like your name is in what is that sanskrit it's not sanskrit what is that what does it say mandarin i don't know even in secret ego persists every good deed bears its stain can we even act without it oh Azumi. Can we ever act without it or is pure selflessness impossible? Oh, I think about that all the time. I mean, you know, this is sort of like, I think one of the sort of tenets of Christianity that people rail against is the concept of original sin. We don't like that. I don't want to hear that. People don't want to hear they're sinful.
Starting point is 01:01:08 People don't want to hear that. Because it's like it does feel. really like kind of like Salem witch trials shit you know like purge yourself of your sin but I don't think that's what it's talking about at all I think it's sort of an acknowledgement maybe it's somewhere similar to like duca and Buddhism like you know suffering the truth of suffering and so the idea is that like you know CS Lewis is like he writes about this a lot which is there's a general sense at least and I've thought about it because like I go back and forth on CS Lewis actually but there's a general sense or at a planetary level of right and wrong
Starting point is 01:02:03 and that his point being that like there is this sort of spiritual component to how to live there's a it's built into us there seems to be this built into this idea of like what trajectory is going to bring you into a a brighter kind of life and so when you're when you when you're lost which is incredibly easy to do in the world the world like holy fuck it's designed to make you confused to get you lost i mean you I mean, Jesus, going online, it's just like a hot bed of temptation, porn, you want to jerk off. You want to, like, you know, like stare at, like, people fucking and, like, you want to, like, there's so many, like, little acts that are generally insignificant, but over time, they start creating this trajectory in your life. and that trajectory it gets you further and further away from the light and the light when you're really out there in the darkness the light it doesn't even seem like light anymore it seems like boring you have this idea in your head of what the kind of life that that would look like if you started living according to some kind of spiritual principles and it sounds absolutely dull
Starting point is 01:03:35 just fucked up it sounds like you would turn yourself into a bonsai tree what do you mean i can't do that i mean that's so that i've wanted that so you you just end up not realizing that like a lot of the sort of repetitive negative negative habits you have are not even making you happy anymore they're not doing anything or you even and so you just get further and further down the rabbit hole darker and darker and so then when you start realizing like i don't like the way i feel right now this isn't how i want to be i don't want to be perpetually bitter angry addicted i don't like this is feel like at some point it just stops it stops being fun it starts getting creepy
Starting point is 01:04:30 but because you've been going down that path you're surrounded by people who are celebrating in one way, shape, or form, being bitter, being judgmental, being angry, being vengeful. And so you don't even have anyone to talk to. You can't even bring some of this stuff up with your friends. I'll think you're a fucking uncool normie. And so you start feeling isolated, kind of, and alone. You don't know what to do. and then you start looking into some of these things
Starting point is 01:05:06 and questions like what you ask will emerge I want to be you want to be selfless like that's for sure I would love to help without my ego being involved it's cool I mean that's a beautiful that would be a beautiful thing but it's easy to take that and use it as an excuse to not even try even if I try to do some altruistic good thing
Starting point is 01:05:29 it's really self-serving I want people to think I'm good I'm not doing it for any real principled approach. I'm doing it because I want to look good to people or to myself. I want to be proud. And so what? Just do it for that. Do it for any reason. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I think if you just start off making little changes in the opposite direction of the shadows, even if you're making those changes for ulterior motives, the more you do that, the more you start getting little glimpses of this other possible way to live, another possible way that is the opposite of what you thought it would be. It isn't boring. It isn't dead. It isn't stagnant. It isn't empty.
Starting point is 01:06:14 It isn't a waste of time. It isn't subjugating yourself to some kind of tyrannical authoritarian priest class. It isn't anything you thought it was. That's the coolest thing. And you want, it's like, oh my god forgive me christians out there for making a burning man comparison but uh burning man like people have no idea what it's like you will not know what it's like until you go there you just won't know and it is like you've seen videos of it i'm sure and you're like i'm not going
Starting point is 01:06:46 to that that looks like hell i don't want to go there i don't have fucking ecstatic dance i'm fuck your shaman or whatever it is you think about it bunch of influencers flopping around with fucking desert wear scannily clad influencers with hot desert tops on some people don't want that cheesy then you get there and it's like what the fuck is this the opposite of what you thought or maybe not it just depends on where you land at black rock city you never know but you realize Like if any of these like things, and like Christianity, if you just like do your own research and just get it, go, check it out, you're like, wait, what's going? Why does everyone hate this? It's wild. You're like, it's surrounded by like a cloud of like distortions that people are putting out there about it. Like a force field or something. And that is fascinating. Some kind of bizarre force field.
Starting point is 01:07:54 that really would prevent anyone who had any kind of, like, desire to be okay from going to it. Like, why would you want to go get manipulated by some kind of hypnotic money, hungry priests? And then you get there and you realize, like, oh, wow, it's just not like that at all. It doesn't seem to be like that at all. A lot of things are like that out there, by the way. A lot of things. Hmm. Woven the weird!
Starting point is 01:08:22 You warn J.R.E. Openness to conversation might be hijacked by dark forces. I fear he became a useful idiot for propaganda, but I won't demonize him. You just did. You paid $5 to demonize him. Oh, God, if I could go back in time and not do that warning, you just have to understand something, ma'am. Like, you know other things that I, like, implied on J.R.E.
Starting point is 01:08:53 that for whatever reason don't get the exposure that that one does. Like, I think I, I don't know how many times I kind of, like, are you sure not in the CIA? That was just fun, stone, just fun. And the, the, that, that, that, that conversation that I had with him, it definitely gets turned into like he was talking about the right wing people of the world. It's like, I just had this great podcast with Doug Rushkoff. You should listen to it.
Starting point is 01:09:29 It's really, really good. We talked about it a little bit. Like, number one, I do not think that my prophecy came true. I don't think, I don't think that. I've talked to them all the time. I'm friends with him. Like, you guys have, like, gotten sucked. in to a kind of distorted reality. It's not real. It isn't. The argument being, well,
Starting point is 01:10:00 he's at this person or that platform, this person or that person. I just talked about this with Rushkoff. Like, dude, of course. Why wouldn't you? I would. I told Rushkoff. We're comedians and we're curious people and we want to talk to, like being around like, Like, whoever it may be, whether they're some kind of oligarch, a president, whatever it may be, a UFO whistleblower, you better fucking believe I want to talk to everybody. As far as whatever his politics may be, that's his fucking business. What the fuck? That's part of being in America. You get to fucking vote any way you want to vote.
Starting point is 01:10:45 It's our right. it's like therefore he's been compromised it's just bullshit we've all if that's the case then we've all been compromised I'm sorry every single one of us every single one of us has had some kind of propaganda injected into our fucking brains by
Starting point is 01:11:01 some political organization by the CCP by who knows who the fuck our brains are just filled like we've been drinking swamp water with all kinds of memetic parasitic forces every single one of us Yours especially.
Starting point is 01:11:18 If you're asking that, you're asking that because you, you saw the elephant graveyard thing or this or that. It must be true. Is it real that? We've got to just drop this fucking, like, story. It's a story. It's not real. It's a scary world you're living in. I've lived there.
Starting point is 01:11:44 It's called eating too much weed. I get paranoid. I thought a meteor was going to hit the earth when COVID happened. I swear to you, I thought that. I thought the whole thing was a cover-up. They were getting us indoors or something. I don't know. I just went on some conspiracy thread, read a fairly convincing thing about a potential meteor impact, and I fucking bought it.
Starting point is 01:12:05 And the world you're living in is scary. Like, are people in the world political? Yes. I'm political. You can't not be political. you live in the United States. We vote. We vote.
Starting point is 01:12:23 And we get to vote for whoever the fuck we want to vote for. It's great. And I don't care who the fuck you voted for. Truly, I don't care. That's the main thing. That's what Rushkoff was talking about. It's like when you're like, when there's a flood and you're helping like use buckets to get water out of somebody's
Starting point is 01:12:43 fucking house, you're not looking at the person. wondering who they voted for you just become part of humanity helping and you really have to ask yourself holy shit have i been compromised that's where you should start have you been infiltrated by dark forces ask yourself that not just like don't just immediately reject it either really ask yourself that and i would argue that if you are living in a world that has been broken into a political binary. You're living in a world informed by shit that you've absorbed through
Starting point is 01:13:23 like YouTube videos or Fox or CNN or MSNBC or whatever it is. If you're living in a world where that is taken up your consciousness to the point that you would be you would pay $5 to ask me that question then more than
Starting point is 01:13:45 than likely you have your online hygiene isn't that good. You've been doing a reverse cowgirl with the internet, and you haven't been wearing protection. The internet has been looking down at your balls. I don't know if you have balls or not, but for now, pretend you do. as the internet has ridden you like a horse it's riding you around right now
Starting point is 01:14:20 I think we've all been compromised every single one of us maybe there's no way to not be I mean just think about it like our brains aren't equipped or to be assailed by a combination of state propaganda
Starting point is 01:14:38 other country's propaganda the propaganda a variety of like God knows what with varying reasons for sending that propaganda out like it's probably impossible
Starting point is 01:14:54 to go online and not get some little bit of propaganda injected into you you know so you should always ask yourself that Have I been compromised? And maybe you should ask yourself, take it to another level.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Go meta with it, man. Go meta with it. And ask yourself if you have been reducing the entire planet into two groups with antithetical political ideologies. Nobody's really like that. It's just not like that. Listen to the Rushkoff episode. was good for me to chat with him and I think it will help exercise some of the demons that might have nested in your consciousness because it's not helping anybody man that fucked up lens people
Starting point is 01:15:53 are looking at the world through is like it's not helping it's just if anything it's just like summoning the very demonic forces that you're terrified of hope that helped thanks for Rich? These are so fun. I told Josh I want to cut it short, but then I never want to end it. I'm sorry, Josh. Oh, you're good. I think people are, they can't empathize because they're so detached.
Starting point is 01:16:25 And I had a perfect example of it last night when I went to the grocery store. What happened? And I bought stamps and my groceries and the girl couldn't get the stamps out. So she had to call management. And management took like three, four minutes to get there. and she's coming up and she looks flustered and she's like I'm sorry my dad died and yeah she just blurts it out
Starting point is 01:16:44 and the the person checking me out just like okay but like blank look on her face lady behind me no reaction I'm just standing there like and then she gets the stand she's like this I get the stamps and she goes here you go sir
Starting point is 01:16:57 and I was like I'm sorry about your dad and she goes okay have a great day and then walked off and I was like what the fuck is going on did I not hear you right? Oh, my God. You just said your dad died, and nobody. And then when I showed any type of empathy, she looked at me like, whatever you go.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Like, just not there. We're just, we're, this is what happens when our, our amygdalas have been getting milked by the fucking, edged and milked, edged in milked, edged in milk by the internet, man. We're just, we're just filled up with so much cortisol and adrenaline right now. we're all in survival mode people are really just locked down right now man and that's what that was that's horrifying poor woman it's horrifying you know you're right man people are numbed out Squarespace is the all-in-one website platform designed to help you stand out and succeed online. Whether you're just starting out or scaling your business,
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Starting point is 01:20:33 something I compromised for about at a weekend and realized how gross it was to potentially turn on someone after years oh turn on someone after years
Starting point is 01:20:44 because of a YouTube video I mean you know where I've been trying to find compassion for like the people have been coming at me is I just think all right well
Starting point is 01:20:54 it's not true but they think it's true and so you know there's I guess like some kind of humanist motive behind it or something but it's definitely been a wonderful it's been very illuminating honestly it's been really great it's definitely like help me understand how distorted and how easy it is how distorted data is that's out there how easy it is to distort data and
Starting point is 01:21:27 that's like and it's really got me thinking about so many different conspiracies that I've found myself scratching my chin about and thinking could be true and now I'm just like I don't know I don't know it's just so easy to warp things Sunshine wants to know what colors your toothbrush all right so what we have here folks is just some more
Starting point is 01:21:52 blowback from that video Sunshine is asking what color my toothbrush is because there have been allegations in a different video that I do not brush my teeth And so this is just another low blow. The color of my toothbrush is bright, vivid, rose petal pink. And it vibrates.
Starting point is 01:22:17 What now? What now, sunshine? You guys are so fun. Constra buzz wants to know what's with Dunkin's vocal fry. Self-band five minutes. It's five-minute self-band. I do not have vocal fry. I have a beautiful voice, resonant voice, deep and resonant.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Oh, no, now they're calling you a pink brusher. Here we go, folks. Welcome to the mob. They're in here, folks. There they are. Thanks, elephant graveyard. Look what I got. Now they're calling me a pink brusher with shoey eyes.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Devin Brown says, I'm going to project my soul tonight. to tickle and kiss everyone's feet in the astral world until we all feel better. Devin, you know what, man? I don't know if that's going to make everybody feel better. Some people would like it, but I don't have to know if I, I don't know if I want an astral entity sucking my toes.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Go for it, though. You can try it. Alfredo Cruz is saying I should try Warframe, free to play game with space ninjas. No, Alfredo, I'm afraid I'm lost in the Silk Song. world right now. I'm trapped. Horrifically trapped. If any of you guys been playing this incredible game, oh my God. Finally gotten to act too. Hard. So hard. Merciless. Brutal. It eats you alive. It's vicious. The people who made it are fucking mean on purpose.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Team Cherry, they're trying to hurt you. It's like death metal. They want to hurt you. They don't want you to win. They're just like, yeah, you just won't. You won't get past this act Unless you just devote An insanely satanic amount of time And learning how to beat this boss I don't know what that means I'm not going to say it Adam Dev
Starting point is 01:24:17 I'm not going to say that That could be something to activate a sleeper cell You think I should stream it I've thought about that But it's like I'm not going to stream In the way I don't like having public sex You know like some people like The fucking dressing rooms and shit
Starting point is 01:24:30 I hate that I fucking hate it people like to fuck with the windows open in hotels i don't like that does not give me a charge at all and like playing holland silk song publicly just feels like dirty it feels just so gross to me and i don't think i'm going to be able to enjoy it uh-oh but nevlin is saying charles manson is everyone he's the air the trees the green things that give us air he's the bottom of the ocean And the highest of the sky He's nothing and everything
Starting point is 01:25:02 And in between Well, you ain't nothing at all Everything I'll be a monster You want me to be You want me to be the monster I mean children You're children I didn't do nothing You're children in your children
Starting point is 01:25:10 You tell your children war You tell your children to be afraid You tie your children There was a devil You're the one he made the devil I'm not the devil But if you want me to do that I can blink and everybody be dead
Starting point is 01:25:23 Well folks Tolliken study I don't do a great manson thank you though i i i tried you know he's got that southern he's got this kind of southern i can't do it but i mean i can kind of like emulate his like the theme no i have not heard titra yadra by tyler childers but i'll look it up oh there you go double starships defend the weak and the fatherless uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed psalms 82-3 i am heartbroken Duncan is riding Jesus dick. Why is Duncan talking about Jesus?
Starting point is 01:26:08 Defend the weak and the fatherless upholds the cause of the poor and the oppressed. What the fuck? How is that bad? How is that upsetting any of you? I mean, it doesn't sound easy and there's a lot of them out there, but it's at least there, somebody's trying to get that shit out there. Cole Klesner, there's enough Jesus dick for everybody. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:26:35 You should start a church. I don't care how many times you guys say that. I'm not going to say it. NASA Jim, never heard of him. Stephen E. I love Catamari. It's quite fun. Austin Innes wants to know, I'm an old lady Asian farmer, and I'm wondering if you like grapes.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Some kind of trap. I'm not answering. 7.7 wants to ride my Lambeau. No way. I only let my ladies ride with me. In my shoulders. I have kids. I have child seats in my Lamborghini.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Rich says, wanna piss people off, talk about cryptocurrencies. Josh is an expert. I don't know too much about it. I have Pepe coin. That's not a good thing to say, though. Because Pepe's a racist meme, so.
Starting point is 01:27:30 No, it's not. The Frog? Yeah, that's what people say. Pepe's a racist meme. I interviewed the creator of Pepe, the Frog. Really? Yeah, he's a sweetheart. Jason is saying the Bible is missing books that talk about reincarnation. I've heard that.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Wouldn't surprise me. Okay, I'm going to do one more of these. I got to get out of here. A while ago, my wife and I listened to your podcast about the rivers of blood during the delivery of your child. and I was expecting far more blood that was actually... Okay, if I said rivers of blood, I could have been being a little hyperbolic, okay?
Starting point is 01:28:08 It just sounds good. Rivers of blood. Give me a chance to say rivers of blood. I'm going to say it. But there is... It's not a river. I mean, technically, it's not a river. That would be impossible.
Starting point is 01:28:19 If my wife exploded a river of blood, then I would assume there's some kind of wormhole inside of her connected to a bloody river. Bursting out of... or the damn which I guess in this case would be her vagina Adam Dev is saying
Starting point is 01:28:35 I think this is because I suggested Duncan's wife made the oh the pyramid tapes fucking left the one I have for you guys at home been so busy man I got a good one I don't care what
Starting point is 01:28:51 yeah I think all forms of speculation if you don't think you should be suspicious that it's coming from the trusses I would. I would be suspicious. You should be.
Starting point is 01:29:03 I'm open for all, all of that. But, yeah, I don't know what the fuck they are. I don't know. And I need to upload the ones I played last time on the subreddit, but I got to get them off that tape. You guys like the tapes, huh? I do, too. Freak me out.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Release the little hobo tapes. No way. I'm not signal boosting him. Austin, Ennis wants to, I don't want to leave. That's why I'm just answering questions now. I don't know if we'll upload this as a podcast. Duncan, do you like the Mighty Bush? Fuck yeah, I do.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Are you kidding? So funny. Listen, there's a few things that I feel like a red flags. All right? And when somebody tells me they don't like British comedy, I get weirded out. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:29:55 It doesn't necessarily mean that something's wrong with them. I've met people who don't like. and they're amazing people but it's a red flag to me. It's a red flag because they make some of the best comedy
Starting point is 01:30:08 out there. It's incredible. Closest thing we have to do it right now is Tim Robinson. Old Greg. I just found out about old Greg. Wayweary wants to know if any George Washington QA
Starting point is 01:30:22 you'd have to ask Brendan Walsh about that. I don't know why he hasn't been doing those. I think he was getting like a lot of like pushback for doing his George Washington Q&A's you know these days you upload anything in the internet and people take it the wrong way but he was doing these wonderful Q&As about George Washington they're great I learned so much about George Washington from him he really loves George Washington sus rando is saying peep show is also hilarious it's one of my favorite shows
Starting point is 01:30:48 they those guys have another one coming out apparently some kind of sketch show which is exciting Austin saying I would say British cynicism is what makes the comedy so good I don't know it's just its own thing like they're really good like they're so good at like playing it straight they have the you know it's like it can
Starting point is 01:31:11 like they're really good at like just creating like incredibly awkward situations and not hamming it up in the midst of those situations playing it real and it's fucking awesome Brian Lewis wants to know if I've seen Chief
Starting point is 01:31:28 Chef? Have I seen chef? What does that mean? What's that mean, man? Jason Doge wants to know. Are we the baddies? I don't know. No. Nobody's a batty. Why's everybody throwing that around, man? Baddy. We're calling everyone a baddie. No one's a fucking batty. People are just varying degrees of confused and scared. Saul. Doesn't mean you got to let them do whatever the fuck they want, by the way. It doesn't mean you got to let them walk all over you. But just to understand, probably if you're dealing with a dick, they're confused and scared. And if you're being a dick, just look back at the last time you're being a dick. You were probably a little scared, a little confused, or tired, or hungry. It's not that complex. How much of the shit going on in the world right now is because people are hungry?
Starting point is 01:32:25 Have you ever wondered that? How much of the shit this is happening is just because people are tired of. tired and hungry. I bet it's something as simple as that. We had some kind of drone snack delivery system. You know, if we could use Palantir Technologies. If we could use, I've got to reach out to Peter Thiel and pitch this, Tim. We use Palantir Technologies.
Starting point is 01:32:49 We get everyone to put a wearable device on, detects blood sugar levels. If your blood sugar gets weird, a Palantir drone will deliver a snack to you. no cost this is paid for by the federal government you have to eat it i wonder how quickly things would just even out in the world like in it like all of a sudden everyone would just be nice to each other and cool troublesuiters keeps posting out mescaline i took mescaline a long time ago i loved it when i was in high school i took mescaline it was fucking incredible you know honestly you're asking how many wouldn't trust the food you know if palanteer delivers food do you you on a drone, you probably should get it tested.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Maybe I would be, I don't think it would be like Alex Jones level to wonder if what's in that food. Julian, I'm glad you asked me about Oblivion remastered. I can't believe you paid $5 to ask me that. Yeah, I played it. I put it on my Steam deck, and I was
Starting point is 01:33:47 severely disappointed, not because the game sucks because the Steam deck can't run it. And for some dumb reason, I thought it would be able to. It runs it kind of. It's got frame rate drops. And I think at the time, I was playing Baldersgate 3 and just after playing that it was hard to connect to that world
Starting point is 01:34:03 and I haven't played Skyrim in a long time but I used to watch the moths like modded Skyrim. It looks so good now. Like it's incredible what they've done to that game. Wow. Now everyone's talking about mescaline. I love you guys. Mesklin might be the safest classical
Starting point is 01:34:20 psychedelic because it does not share the same 5H2TB agonism like mushrooms or toad them you're smart that's awesome i just remember it just being very beautiful and having the best night of my life i'll check it out again i heard that they like fixed it for the steam deck so maybe it's good now again i'm just playing silk song non-stop it's awful i honestly yesterday i thought about breaking my steam deck with a hammer i swear to god i thought about it or throwing it in
Starting point is 01:34:51 the toilet because i couldn't believe that i was spending so much time fighting the same boss over and over and over again. I couldn't believe it. I was just like, what's, what, what's wrong with me? I'm a dad. This is inappropriate behavior. Like, this is fucked up. Brian's talking about chef again. Chef haunts me in my sleep and cooks horrible food. Anyway, I love midnight gospel. Will you see anything new in the future? Well, you never know. But I will say this, Brian Lewis. I'm on a couple of shows right now that you could, if you want to. Crapopopolis is one of the shows I'm on, on Fox.
Starting point is 01:35:31 I play hippocampus, a little fishhead dude. And then you might, if there's a show on Netflix called Haunted Hotel, and I play a character called Stabby Paul. And it looks really cool, too. Crapopopolis, man. Check it out. It's really got its legs now. Dunphy is saying that Future Dunk had created the tapes.
Starting point is 01:35:53 I wish I'd brought that fucking tape, man. It's really fucked up. But you guys have to understand, man. I've been, like, grinding lately. My wife is so pregnant right now. I've just been, like, busy, busy, busy. I like it, though. I like being as busy as I am.
Starting point is 01:36:15 But it has been like just, like, I've been like on, like, using my computer on my car. That's how you know you're fucking busy. It's like when you're dropping. dropping kids off or picking them up and you're like connecting to your Wi-Fi on your phone and sending emails. Well, you know, I got it. The first thing I need to do is I need to digitize the tapes I played last time and put it on the pyramid tape subreddit, which I'm sorry for not doing that. And then the next thing I need to do is remember to bring in some new tapes and go through the box, find some more. Or just bring the box in and just randomly pull a tape.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Rachel, I am stabby, Paul. Stabby, stabby. I love you guys, love the tapes. JJ, I don't know if it's son or daughter. It's a secret. We don't know. It's going to be a surprise. Double starships.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Tylenol. You know when the crunchy moms have known Tylenol's fucked up for a bit now. It's not like it's news. I feel so sorry for pregnancy, man. like you have very limited medicine you can take when you're pregnant Ben Everent says they don't believe the tapes are real I don't blame you Team R says hey Duncan how bad is it gonna get
Starting point is 01:37:36 Andy wants to know what I think about the shared dream world stuff Reddit Thermal World I don't know what it is but let me look it up real quick that sounds cool as fuck I gotta go I'm about to leave my I gotta help my wife put the kids a bit I got grubby kids I need to scrub down It's weird being a parent. Community not found. You got me. You got me.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Well, I'll leave you guys on this, my favorite subreddit. Pull up Dumer Circle Jerk, Josh. I love this subreddit. It is so good. And if you are in the darkness, if you're living in the Dumer Zekeist and you're getting sick of it, Go to Doomer Circle Jerk. It picks out the best doomer shit out there. And they post it and they vote on the ultimate, not that.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Scroll up a little bit, Josh. You got wake up people. Newsom says Trump's going to take you as presidential elections away. That's a democracy. It's dead, Doomer. Scroll down a little bit. Keep scrolling. There's a really good one here.
Starting point is 01:38:52 It's just great. These are actually not, sadly, not a good mix right now. But it's pretty awesome because it just takes all the best Dumer subredits. Oh yeah, Tylenhal. Keep scrolling down. Oh, this will be a good one. Google is literally Hitler and they're all Nazis. Is this an actual prank in the middle of misinformation superstore on YouTube?
Starting point is 01:39:20 They're going to unbanned the propagandists. We got scam guys. There's nobody at Google that isn't evil. They're just going to keep violently shoving fascist propaganda in our faces until the DOG breaks the company up like they could have done a long time ago. At this point, it's legitimately imperative to the survival of the country that Google's monopoly go away. It's actually Nazis trying to destroy the country.
Starting point is 01:39:41 It's not a joke or an over-exaggeration. I seriously don't know what the heck is going on over there, the executive layer, but the shareholder should be suing over stuff like this. Nazis are not good as business people. How do these companies end up with actual Nazis as executives, ripping people off as not a sustainable business practice? It finds the histrionic posts like that and go, let's read one more and then I've got to get out of here. Oh, yeah. Sell everything. Trump destroyed the economy, but it's scroll down.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Somebody's saying I'm standing in the middle of America right now. Okay. I got to go. Dumer Circle Jerks. to it. It's actually quite good. We've all become somewhat dumery and it's a good antidote when you realize how embarrassing it is, that worldview. I love you.
Starting point is 01:40:33 I'll see you next week. Thank you so much for the Super Chats. Oh, wait. You got one more. We'll do one more. Yeah, two more. Thermal World, L.O.L. I'll look it up after this, Andy. I do have to go bathe my children. Miss says, ah, missed you. I want to ask you about how to stop manifesting negative things when I'm not trying to act and vice versa.
Starting point is 01:40:53 good question um listen i do believe in manifestation i actually it is real manifestation is totally real but don't get the thing is this look at what you're doing how are you spending your time think of manifestation as well the way a spider makes a web you need some kind of precursor material. What's your precursor material? What are you taking it? What are you taking it? It's a big part of it because if you're taking it a bunch of fucked up shit, that's what you're going to, that's what your web's going to be made of. Like when you see the, there's a really sad, I don't know, picture I saw once where like there was a beehive and it was plastic. There's bits of plastic in it. They'd somehow been gathering plastic. I don't know what's going on there. But if you're
Starting point is 01:41:53 taking in garbage data and you're manifesting weird shit it's 100% why it's the first step is you've got to get off the fucking darkness and i'm a hypocrite for saying that because i doom scroll i love it but i shouldn't and i know the more i fixate on those things the more that's what i'm going to make you know the more you're fixating in the darkness the more you're going to extantiate that in your life in one way shape or form and so that's a step Step one, wrench yourself off of it. Even if you're just like playing video games, it's better. Then like if you're absorbing a lot of bad stuff, it makes it far more difficult.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Read Ernest Holmes. There is like a lot of discipline that goes into the actual practice of it. Like this is, I think, mindfulness practice and meditation practice. It's a good first step because you need to find this boaty check. chita emptiness sort of place where you've got like a clean slate because like your overlays your reality overlays are going to distort whatever it is you're trying to manifest and so if you can get to a non-judgmental as david puts it suddenly free from fixed mind place then you don't have to worry about whatever your particular like the tapestry you've woven together of like bad news
Starting point is 01:43:22 if that's like fucking up the things you're trying to make and create. Again, this is a little, a lot of hypocrisy because I love dark shit, as you know, if you've listened to this for any amount of time. I love talking about it and looking at it and stuff. But I do know that like the real manifestation step does involve more than just wishing for something or wanting something or visioning that you with this thing. It's not that at all. It's really more about remembering the future.
Starting point is 01:43:56 And what can happen is you need, like, how you got from point A to point B. And the hardcore manifestation people say, don't worry about that. It's not, you don't even need to figure out how you're going to get there. You actually have to remember it like it happened in the past, which tethers you, I guess you could say, to some temporal node that then will appear around you in your life. it's heavy stuff like the real stuff is very psychedelic and crazy beautiful all right i gotta go peace of the lord unto thee praise jesus amen

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