Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 722: Beef Gully

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

The DTFH in partnership with National Local Community Public Radio presents: Beef Gully (formerly Meat Canyon, potentially Coldcut Gorge) Episode 2. Florida family! Duncan is coming to Tampa! Come see him at Side Splitters Comedy Club, November 21-22. Click here to get your tickets now. Don't miss this one! Duncan has offended the Heavens and will have to endure Lightning Tribulation soon, so these are some of his last shows of 2025! Thank you, and we love you!! This episode is brought to you by: Get your first month of BlueChew FREE Just use promo code DUNCAN at checkout and pay five bucks for shipping. That’s it. Head to BlueChew.com for details and safety info.  Go to get.stash.com/DUNCAN to see how you can receive TWENTY-FIVE DOLLARS towards your first stock purchase and to view important disclosures. That’s get.stash.com/DUNCAN. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/duncan and get on your way to being your best self.

Welcome to another live DTFH. Thank you to my dear subscribers. You guys got in early. I got in late. And I'm sorry. I'm trying, man. Juggling a lot of balls right now. And this is exciting because at last I can release episode two of the incredible serial drama.

Meat Canyon, which I'm going to have to change the fucking name. I didn't, I didn't know there was already a massive, incredible, funny YouTube account called Meekanee. God damn. And it just, it's like I can't, I don't want people to, A, think I'm ripping off that brilliant name, or B, get confused and think it's some side project of Meat Canyon. So bear with me. in fact if you have a better name for the locale this story takes place in other than meet canyon

i'll take all ideas we got it's just such as catchy name and um who knows it his youtube video is so fucking popular i'm sure my dumbass saw the name at some point and it got stuck into my my brain you know bubbled up i'm like oh god i'm a genius That's great. Meat Canyon. So, I don't know. It sucks. You know what I mean? Wish I had a button to erase Meat Canyon from the universe.

That would be horrible, horrifying if you could do that. Beef Gully, Beef Canyon. Beef Gully is pretty awesome. Beef Gully. I need to write. Wow, honestly, I didn't know. Wow. Beef gully.

Oh, hold on. Let me start. And that was by Danny DeVito is 80. Thank you, Danny DeVito. I had a feeling you were a fan. Beef gully. Hold on. Beef.

Gully. Some of the other ones was Alex's cold-cut gorge. Flesh forest Okay Turkey Turkey tunnel I don't It can't be

It's not It's okay Beaver Oyo Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha These are fucking Grand Manon Grand Manion

Beef Beef Mountain is cool All right Maybe we don't It doesn't have to be meat related Honestly nothing in the story Has much to do with with like meat.

Veal Valley Veal Valley Beef strokenoff Dakini Tubesteak tunnel Squishy place Tubesteak tunnel Squishy place is cool

I don't Squishy place That's cool Squishy place You got bovine bluffs You got bovine bluffs Tissue Linguini ledge

Tissue tund Okay, good. Thank you. Meat curtains. Meat curtains. Meat curtains are real, man. They're real. People use curtains with meat, man, meat. That's true.

Leather curtains. Tim, you'd miss the beginning. What I said in the beginning for all of you joining now. Maybe I should just keep repeating the beginning over and over through the whole episode. What you missed is that I was saying I'm aware now. A few people have, like, said, hey, you know about the Meat Canyon YouTube account. So I'm aware now that there's a Meat Canyon YouTube account. Very popular and very good, by the way.

Check it out. Pretty funny stuff. Good animation. And so I can't call this Meat Canyon anymore. Not because they give a shit. They didn't say anything to me, but just because it would be lame, basically. Even though it has nothing to do with what they're doing over there, it's still, it's just going to confuse people. So that's what I said at the beginning.

So now the reason that you see people, sausage plateau. Beefy blinders. It's like the worst world ever. Oh, man. Um, I would love to collab with Meet Canyon. His, and I love his animation style. I love just to talk to him, see how, what he's using, like what, what, um, software he's using for that.

It's so cool. I do want to show you guys a preview for something, but we'll have to cut it out, Josh. Okay. Um, maybe before we do Meet Canyon part two, I just want to show you this. You know what? We might get, actually, we might get. there might not be a way to do it on YouTube actually don't they yeah it's still a thing will pop up and say but it's a movie trailer don't they want us to show it no they they'll a thing will pop up

and say you're showing somebody else's work or whatever okay then we'll have to put it in the in the comments um let me see if I find this I can't believe this movie's coming out I'm going to post the link right now meet night gospel Hold on. I like that. Okay. The name of this movie that's coming out is called Fuck My Son. What?

And Johnny Ryan. is one of the writers on this i'm not sure if he's the creator or not uh but johnny ryan's comics are so cool can you pull up johnny ryan johnny ryan's comics real quick josh this johnny ryan really inspires me um that's him but pull up his comics yeah prison pit pull up johnny ryan prison pit dude this comic is so fucking great check it out what images yeah yeah pull any like oh my god it's so funny pull up just the one of those like black and white oh my god flirk flirk flirk flirk it's so awesome really absorbing but his comics really inspire me man like they're so dark and they're so

funny and i love his art so much like pull up if you would jim wooddring he was on the podcast a long time ago check this out you guys oh my fucking god if you haven't stumbled upon the frank yet. Jesus Christ. They're so psychedelic and so good. But it's that black and white line drawing style that I am just a sucker for. Can you enlarge that one on the right so it fills up the whole screen, Josh? Yeah. Look at this. Look how beautiful this is. And Jim Woodring is far out, man he is a vedantist and i think that he visits this place and he never said this but it feels like he's channeling this place but it's such an incredible psychedelic comic and it's all about this little guy frank he's got his little weird dogs and they go on these just dream logic style adventures

through this bizarre, fractal, DMT-ish realm. And it is awesome. And you will occasionally feel like, I feel like I've been here. I know what some of these shapes are, man. But it is awesome. And really violent and it gets really, like, disturbing. And then also just it has these incredible,

super cozy moments like that it's great but yeah fuck my mom I just so want to play it I so look at that God I can't believe it look at how long did that take him can you imagine

just ink just using ink and whatever the fuck long ass brush he has anyway that's good um um Jim Widering the best getting like nice and stoned

and reading some frank books like get yourself like real cozied up nice cup of tea you know like really burrowed down and then open up a frank comic it's the best definitely super powerful dopamine hits will be had now let's see

what were you doing oh so for those of us you just joining I'm going to fill you in a little bit on what's been going on in Meat Canyon uh you missed episode one this is episode two The first episode of Meat Canyon, they discussed sort of the history of Meat Canyon. It's a strange place, or should I say, Steak Valley. I can't keep saying Meat Canyon. This will be the last episode where you talk about Meat Canyon. It's a strange place. It's a small town.

And it's got a pretty tragic history. And so the first episode was all about this. the night of the clowns that happened at Meat Canyon where lunatics killed all the members of a circus, disguised themselves as a circus, went to meet fucking Canyon to put on a show and just did horrible depraved things. And that was sort of setting it up because also clearly our narrator is telling the story of the murder of Chad Haldron, who was the quarterback of Meat Canyon High. And I'm not sure exactly where he's going with it, but it appears that things are not quite as they seem.

So let's go ahead and dive into episode two. If you only read the news stories about Chad Holdren, it would be easy to think that all hope for the world had been snuffed out that night at Magnolia Lake, where Chad's body was found. The news did not mention Chad's many accidents. The time he accidentally ate a bottle of his mother's sleeping pills, or the time he accidentally fell from the third-floor balcony of a hotel during spring break.

And somehow it failed to mention that Chad's late father had been the head of engineering up at the Crinklin Williams Particle Accelerator. And, of course, they said nothing about how Chad crucified Todd Riefer. and left him to die out in the woods. How would they know about that anyway? But we can get to these details later. When a young man is brutally murdered, it's not the time to hang his dirty laundry out for all to see. We pay more respect to dead people than when they were alive,

as though the problem all along had been their ability to move and breathe. And so, as though preparing them for an appearance on a late-night talk, show in the afterlife. We put makeup on their frozen faces. We cut and comb their hair. We place them in expensive suits and then display them in coffins that their family will be making payments on for the next decade. And then we line up and in front of friends and family we put on a show. Some of us tenderly stroke the ice cold hands of our lost ones. Some of us place flowers on their still chests. And some of us put on a dramatic performance

that only the living will see. We gnash our teeth, wail, and shake our fists at the ceiling of the funeral home we are renting. Our performance shows the bereaved audience that, though they may have had tender feelings for the dead, we truly love them. And then as though closing the lid on a pan of eggs

at best Western Morning Buffet, the funeral director closes the casket and wheels the coffin into a hearse, where it is deposited in the landfill for human bodies we call a graveyard. We tell stories of how incredible the corpse used to be, how it was kind to animals, how it loved its mother,

how it used to share its video games with us, and taught us to do backflips, and how though one one hundred and seventy-three thousand people die every single day, we act like our corpse was the best of all of them. Jesus needed a quarterback, is what Haldron's coach said at the funeral. And if I was playing football against the devil, you better believe I would have chosen Chad too. This was met with a standing ovation from everyone at the funeral, except Chad, of course.

and the next time I hear thunder, I'm going to tell myself that Chad just made a touchdown in heaven. The last part of Coach Lort's speech did not get a standing ovation, and it was clear that he thought it would. He stood there waiting for everyone to stand up again, and when they didn't, he wiped his eyes with suit sleeves and stepped down from the podium. When Chad's brothers, Shad, stepped up to the podium, there were gasp, from the audience. Somehow he had managed to infiltrate the funeral unseen. Coach Lortz started moving towards him as though he were going to stand between him and the microphone.

But the funeral home director placed a hand on his shoulder, shook his head, and whispered, too late. Better to let him talk. Shad looked like the first attempt at Chad. A kind of uncanny valley version of his beautiful brother. His head was too small. and the proportions were just slightly off, so that if someone who didn't know the Haldron family

had walked into the Western funeral home, they might have thought that the man at the podium had pulled on a Chad Haldron mask. Jesus didn't pick my brother to play on a damn football team, Shad said. His voice was raspy from years of smoking and in Halence, and a few people visibly cringed. He looked down from the podium at his brother's meat,

and his face withered up, turned red with fury in an almost cartoonish way. I told you, Chad, I told you so many times, and you didn't listen, and now look at you, Worm food. I told you, Chad, Worm food, worm food, worm food. The funeral director, realizing that perhaps it would have been better to let the coach intervene, made a small gesture with his ringed index finger, and Shad's microphone. was cut, but he kept yelling in that raspy grate, Worm, food, worm, food, worm, food, until he collapsed next to the podium

and was not so gently pulled through the same door that Chad's coffin had been wheeled out of earlier. This wouldn't be the first time Shad disrupted a ceremony honoring his brother, but it would definitely be the last. The first time had been only six months before Chad's murder when Shad had kicked down the door of the MCJ, and run screaming into their inner sanctum. Part temple, part circus tent, it was here,

that the MCJ, short for the Meat Canyon jesters, inducted new members. And there was Chad in only a loincloth, and Sheriff Lennox Climp himself, with a clown nose, held in his gloved hand, muttering a secret prayer, and Shad hurled his Bible, at the sheriff knocking the clown nose from his head. hand. The sheriff beat Shad within an inch of his life that night, and the next day

told Chad that he could no longer be a jester. It was after this ruined ceremony that Chad started spending more and more time up in Magnolia Park, and it was up there in Magnolia Park that Chad seems to have lost whatever bit of sanity he had been clinging to during the years after his father's horrific death up there at the particle accelerator. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Powerful stuff, guys. Powerful stuff. What the fuck is going on? What happened to Chad's dad? What's going on with his brother, Shad. We'll never know until the next episode of Meat Canyon. It is based on a true story story.

That means true story. Storyly is short for true story. It's a storyly for sure. But yeah, Benjamin, there's a lot of, I mean, clearly, clearly there are shadows that lay over Meat Canyon. there are shadows but i'm excited to release um episode three uh i gary b is saying there's another youtube channel called me canyon did you garib see we went over this garibby we went over this in the beginning here i went over it twice garabee i know about the damn meat canyon channel infinitely more popular than mine i know i have to change the

whole damn name of the canyon we went through an entire moment where everyone came with great names i'll read something to you cold cut gorge flash forest beef erroyo grand manion and squishy place i like squishy place by the way but i don't know that that that word works for the tone of whatever the fuck this is. But it's okay, Gary B, but you're going to have to do a self-band for one minute. Just one minute. No big deal.

Honestly, it was, it wasn't your fault. It's my fault. I was late to my own stream, which is incredibly lame. But I'm spinning a lot of fucking plates. You guys know what Spinning Plates actually comes from, right? Can you pull that up, Josh, Spinning Plates Tonight Show? Check this out.

This one? Yeah, just turn the audio down. This is a real thing, for those of you don't know. Yeah, look at that. It's fucking nuts. Plate spinning. You got to keep all these plates balancing on sticks. because it's an absurd activity.

It makes you look ridiculous. And it's the ultimate satire for all of modern human life spinning these stupid plates. You've got to keep them all going, keep a smile on your face, act like you're not a madman, act like any of what you're doing makes sense.

This is human existence, in its purest form. Look at that. He's good, too, man. That took a lot of practice. And you've got to think to yourself how courageous you have to be to get that good at plate spinning.

Because you've got to do that when you're not good at it. And you've got to do that in front of concerned friends and family who are like, what the fuck happened to you, man? Are you having another episode? No, I just want to learn how to spin plates. I'm a plate spinner.

I realized it in a dream. An angel came to me and told me I should spend plates. Come on, Mama. It's my dream. I want to spend plates. And then just think of the months of broken plates, the shards of ceramic in your feet. And then look at that. God damn it.

He acts like he just raised the dead. Well, his father did work for a big plate, so. Wouldn't be surprised. Wouldn't be surprised. But this is for sure exactly what we're all up to. Adam Dev is saying, how much do I need to pay to show you an AI music video I made for my friends, band Big MLK? You inspired me, master. Please allow me this privilege.

Keep it going up, Bob. I'm just kidding. Let me look at it. I don't know you, man. Thank you, Adam, for the donation. I don't know you, man. That could be anything I'm bringing up. That could be a wrecking ball.

I don't know what you made. I'll look it up right now. What's it called? Big milk. Oh, I thought it was big MLK like Martin Luther King. Yeah, they're banning those. You can't make SORA videos of... Martin Luther King.

Anymore. Good. That'll fix it all. That'll fix the problem. Big Milk, YouTube. Released, November 25th. What is this? This is a six-minute video.

I'm not going to play a six-minute video. Is this what you want me to play? What's it called? Post it in the chat. What's his name? Adam. Adam Dev. No, dude, it's not out.

Oh. What am I supposed to do, man? Adam I want to it has to be easy I want to do it but yeah it's a self-baned Adam two minutes

got to pay that toll I don't want to do self-bans I don't want to make anyone ban themselves I don't want to do that it's the last thing I want to do but if we don't have rules we don't have like some kind of system within which we play the game

of pretending we're separate, then everything becomes chaotic. We've got to balance chaos with order. Why are you saying I'm a dragon? He says he'll post it in the subreddit. Okay, post it at him. Duncan Peterson. Make my bed.

That's the name of my book. Isn't that the Jordan Peterson's book? Make your bed. mine's called make my bed Gabriel thank you for liking my sweater I'm so happy right now it's finally cooling off here in Texas

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it's great i don't have to feel my exposed flesh out there in the blasting fucking heat and i get mad at the heat i don't want to admit it but i do i get mad at a lot of things but the heat like the heat is one of the most pathetic things to get mad at but i do like resenting weather that's crazy literally crazy It's not, it's a neutral reality, subjective, actually. But yeah, it fucking pisses me off. I hate it. I hate wearing shorts. I really do.

I hate having my legs exposed. Putting on your shorts, walking around with your shorts on, your sweatpants shorts. Fucking can't do it. I envy you guys you could do it. Get all relaxed. Just. Somehow you just do, you just relax, calm down, put on your sweatpants shorts and your, in your, in your, in your, in your, pajamas. You go, it's time to put my pajamas on and walk around the house and do pajama farts.

Gross. I can't do that. When I put sweatpants on, it feels crazy, like a luxury. And just, it feels like, man, this is it, dude. I am like just a few days away from a full-on breakdown. It's terrifying. You know, I, maybe it's, I don't know what it is. Like, you know, if you ever known anyone who had bipolar, Josh?

Yes. And what's really sad about bipolar is that if you start getting happy, you have to get worried. Because you're like, is this actual happiness? Or am I about to take my clothes off and stand on top of a statue? and scream about crows so you have to it's scary but i worry like in the opposite if i start wearing sweatpants it's not that long before i'm going to be in bed with jam on my face crumbs all over the fucking place who knows what could come sign of depression not doing that pajamas or even worse robes do you wear robes uh no but my son does okay you have a son

pass he's a kid he'll grow out of robes are so dumb really dumb they're the dumbest invention like it's a tat it's a wearable towel it's inevitably either the cloth is too thick and it feels fucked up. You've got to do that stupid robe tie at the front. You're fucking freeballing in that robe. So if you do the tie wrong, you're going to, who knows?

I mean, I don't know who you're around in a robe, but... My son, but he likes to do the thing where, like, it's a cape and he throws it around him when he turns a corner. That's good. He's a kid. Yeah. But don't wear a robe. Who do you think you are? What do you think you're an oil tycoon? Who do you think you are? You think you're in the yakuza?

Give me a fuck and break. You go to the hotel, they have robes. I'm going to put a towel on that other people have worn. And that's considered fine at a hotel. People will see robes in the hotel closet and just put them on. I've seen it happen in real time. It's the first thing I do when I get to the hotel. Jesus Christ! But you go, let's imagine this. In the closet, underwear hanging. You're that just put on the hotel underwear? No. Okay.

Socks. You're going to just pull on some hotel socks? No. No. You're not. Are you telling me, these are not brand new robes they've been worn before? Of course. I did not know that.

Well, you think they put a new robe every time and incinerate the other one? Those are... But dude, it's okay because the argument is like, yeah, what about the sheets, you fucking weirdo? You lay in the sheets or do you bring your own sheets to a hotel, you freak. you're right no I recognize the hypocrisy in this but it's like I think we need to minimize the amount of time that we're putting

hotel fabrics against our genitalia in life in general that's in my book make my bet it's fucking gross and but let's just say like you do have a new fresh

stupid fresh robe. Like, what's the point? They suck. They're too thick. You're going to get too hot. You're going to fuck with the stupid rope thing. It just ruins,

it ruins a life. Too many days spent wearing a robe and you're done in this incarnation. Just pack it in. Don't do it. What are you going to do? You're going to sit in your robe and drink a martini? Please.

you're not a king and they don't even wear the same kind of robes like i get like a gown more than i get a robe the whole open front why i like to eat cereal in it and it's open and front and i just that is so fucked up so you're just sitting there in your open robe i'm standing oh no honestly i think that does it doesn't fix it josh but i think it does balance it slightly Yeah, no shirt, gray sweats, no underwear underneath. That's what I like to do. You wear sweatpants with your robe. Yeah.

So it's like a jacket? I feel kingly, if that's a word. Nothing less regal than some dude eating cereal in a robe with sweatpants on. I'm sorry. I mean, it's a low-level kid. You're not the only one, by the way. Right now, you can almost feel it. You can feel just an o-level.

ocean of people right now in gray sweatpants with a robe half open a little dribbles of cereal milk running down their fucking bellies you can feel robed humans eating cereal all over this planet at any given moment you just reach out and you can feel that it's a whole spectrum of reality you know what are we to do though that'd be cool merch though you got like a dTFH robe Write it, let's write that down. Yeah. Good idea. And it's purple.

Always love merch ideas. DTFH. DTFH robe idea. How about, but there needs to be something special. Like, it doesn't open in the front. Opens in the back. That's a hospital gown. No, I didn't say back.

Okay. It doesn't. It doesn't open. But one of the best things about robe is the V shape in front. don't ignore that it doesn't open it's more of a gown what it's more of a gown i know but we're going to we're not going to call it a gown for marketing we're going to say something like you know that this those shirts that you don't have to tuck in it's like that okay we fixed the robe and it's you know got a like a drawing of the thing that you tie fixed fixed robes okay you know what i mean like i'm so

sick of my robe opening up in the hotel lobby in people seeing my cock. Are you tired of being arrested and accused of flashing when your robe just malfunctioned? Not anymore. I think Klaus Schwab has a robe like that. It's black. Have you seen it? Yeah.

Well, it's not like based on anything that that guy did. And I need to address this real quick. Sanson, thank you so much for the super chat. Alan Watts wore kimonos. What do you say to that? Horrible. Horrible. That's the last thing I want to get an ear-beating from Alan Watts

and his fucking kimono. You know, you know, there are a lot of, like, college girls who saw that fucking kimono coming at him, that Watts kimono. He would stretch it out like the wings of a dragon, wrap it around them after a nice, healthy, fucking, alcoholic, ear-beating.

I don't like robes That's how I walked around at my dorm In college In a blue robe Please man Please it's not a you man You don't understand It's just

It makes my stomach turn It's not you It's me obviously Like I'm the one with a problem And my robe had a hoodie Like a boxer I pull it up Don't act like you're fucking a boxer

No I wasn't put But no I know But that's kind of what You were just It's like that's the thing You trick yourself into thinking you're Mike Tyson just because you're wearing a fucking robe. No, it's an unnecessary, it's an unnecessary garment. It's an imposition, you know, on humanity.

It somehow has become conflated with abundance. It's a mark of like being fancy, wearing your fucking robe. And it's none of these things. You've taken a shitty towel. It's a big towel. with holes in it for arms you've wrapped it around your wet body it's uncomfortable

and now you're parading around like the the prince of Persia you know and you're not and that tie that you wrap around yourself always gets wet because it hits a puddle in the bathroom it gets fucking wet it's nasty you're not washing your robe every day probably if you're a robe wearer that old cruster

it's you might as well go to a local bathhouse and just find a semen-encrusted fuck towel and sew it to another semen-en-crusted fuck towel take a box cutter cut holes for arms wrap that around you and just create a wreath of condoms just tie condoms together and use that for your for your tie because that's how depraved what you're doing is. Don't, if you have ever seriously worn a rope, then don't ever think that you are a good person because it's over.

It's over. It's the great sin mentioned in the Bible. And that's all I have to say about robes. Merch idea. Duncan figure blowing up pyramids. Fantomas Fanto, thank you for paying to give me a merch idea. Duncan figure blowing up pyramids. You know what it is?

It's a little too on the nose. What I really liked about the Taylor Swift shirts we were making is I want you guys to enjoy trolling with the shirt. I want it to be fun for you as you get to deal with people reacting because I have a Taylor Swift shirt. that I made for the New Year's Eve show I did at The Mothership. Oh, I had a terrible set there last night. Oh. And people come up to me who are Taylor Swift fans, and they're like, I love your shirt. And it's so funny.

And I feel so bad because I have to act like I'm a, I either have to be like, thank you. Yeah, she's great. Or I have to be like, yeah, fuck her. This is just trolling. You know what I mean? Either way, you're a liar or a piece of shit. so it puts you in this wonderful pickle

so that's why I like making those shirts I want you guys to have fun quick question when you're picturing the robe are you picturing it long because mine was like right where my butt cheeks oh come on man no dude so you're you're wearing you're wearing a you're wearing

you're wearing what's you're wearing a fuck robe I won't say it's a fuck row it's a fuck robe if you could see your ass cheeks that's a fuck rope you just see the bottom of the ass cheek of the ass chief. Yes. That's a fuck rope.

That's a robe that says it's time to fuck. I just like a robe where I can take a shit in it. You know what I mean? Because when I sit down, I can just pick up the back. I'm right there. It doesn't like... Look. I'm not saying it's a...

There's something pragmatic about it. If you have diarrhea. I guess you could pull out your special diarrhea rope. And you can wear that. But there's no excuse to wear a rope. and if you love our planet you shouldn't wear robes it's simple it's one of these little adjustments you can make in your own life that if we could just get 30% of us to be like vocally courageously against robe wearing sweatpants wearing in the airport if we could just

get 30% of us to push back against these patterns we potentially could be living in a utopia by the summer but i can't be the only one fighting the good fight here you got to do it too and josh you need to burn your robe i've had it for like since college 20 years this is attachment yeah this is attachment there's so many things not just physical things but mental things that we cling to because they give us a sense of identity a sense of self but when you are out in the ocean let's say you fell overboard you've got to let go of certain things you know maybe you've got your backpack filled with your robes your cereal you got to let it go you know and we have to let this robe face go we were manipulated by

movies in the fucking 80s you made it seem like a successful bachelor in a stupid new york penthouse like to wear robes around with a pipe with a pipe oh it's so gross your little silky robe, stop. Just stop. You go to bed in jeans. You wear jeans to bed. You wear jeans when you wake up. That's what you do if you love our planet.

I don't know about the gray sweatpants because when I feel pretty, I wear gray sweatpants with no underwear and I go to the grocery store and I walk around and I see how many looks I can get. Dude, you see this Buddha cat guy? that's not a that's like a that's an eternal ban yeah there's like certain phrases that these these weirdos use over and over and fell off as one of them um and it's so dumb do permanent do 24 hours for now just so he otherwise you'll just keep incessantly doing that He's excited now. He got a little, like, hit.

He fell out. Hate him. I don't want to hate. It's, uh, but what are you, what are we going to do? Have you guys heard of the book? Psycho-cybernetics. Have you heard of this? Oh, it's good.

I just started listening to it. And the reason I was listening to it is because, uh, apparently like a lot of cult leaders were inspired by this book like it informed some of their like practices and I'm not positive about this but I'm think can you look up Keith Reneer A psycho-cybernetics I think the nexium dude was into this shit could be wrong and then look up Keith Reneer A how do you spell last name? R-A-N-I-E-R-A-N-I-E-R-A-N-I-E-R-E. Scroll down a little, yeah, let's see.

I know it wasn't written, he used self-improvement programs. I'm pretty sure this book was mentioned in the documentary. It's one of the many things. A successful cult leader sort of grabs different sort of, I don't know, self-improvement methods, merges them together into their own sort of thing. But psychosibernetics, I can't remember where else I heard about it. It's not what you think.

It sounds like, I thought it was something to do with, like, transhumanism or cyborgs. I've heard about this book forever. But I think cybernetics literally means, like, steering your ship. Look up. What does cybernetics mean? Oh, the science of communications and automatic control systems in both machines and living things. Yeah.

So it's sort of like, it's taking, it's one, it's positivizing the idea that humans don't have as much autonomy as we think, the sort of the human, it's like, it's blending a kind of mechanistic view. of humans with sort of spiritual ideas. And so you've probably heard me talk about Gertief, who said that humans are spiritual machines, that most people are completely like in autopilot all the time. Everything's a reaction. Everything has already been learned the way you write, the way you talk, the gestures you make.

And Gertjee, was sort of teaching something that reminds me this a little bit, which is like a way to sort of subvert that reactionary form of life to get yourself out of autopilot, essentially. And so this book is something like that in the sense that it's saying, even if you think you don't have goals, you have goals. But in the reason you have goals is because there's a part of you that's just a machine and has been programmed to go after certain things

repeatedly. And so when I first started listening to, I'm like, dude, this is going to suck because it starts off the guy was a plastic surgeon. I'm like, I don't know if I want to listen to like a, whatever this guy has to say, because I have some kind of bias against plastic surgery, which is weird.

but he was he noticed something in his own patients and I guess he'd read about it which is that if you change the way a person looks their behavior will change so if somebody has some disfigurement or if somebody has some aspect of themselves that is like it defines their inner self too and so if you change something in a person suddenly they have all this confidence they're uh happier they're successful all of a sudden and what the fuck is that and so he's pointing out how there's you know this is true i in fencing competitions like it used to be that if you had a scar on your face that was a mark of like pride like it meant that you were you were sort of initiated as a fencer and so he was pointing out that so a person could have like a terrible

scar in their face and it makes them happier, more powerful, more adjusted, or a person could have a horrible scar in their face and they wilt and they become depressed and they become timid. And so the book seems to be based on the idea that there's an inner self image that you have that you might not even be aware of and that by reprogramming that, you will change everything in your life. It's just by reprogramming your tendency to sort of worry over bullshit and replace, like, if you notice yourself habitually worrying, which I'm pretty sure a lot of us do that, you'll notice how it just happens, like you're ruminating all of a sudden. And you'll notice what you're ruminating about is generally an echo of the past. And so there you are ruminating about the past.

and then with the rumination comes cortisol adrenaline your blood pressure goes up you tighten up and so i i don't know because i haven't gotten through the whole book but i'm pretty sure it's going to be something akin to training yourself so that instead of ruminating on shitty things in the past which generally do nothing to help you make your life better whenever You start doing that. You have to bring up any memory, whatever it may be that's good, something really good to happen to you. It doesn't have to be some significant thing. It doesn't have to align with whatever self-help goals you're setting for yourself, but just a time where you felt so good.

And then you start training yourself to replace your ruminations with like intensely imagining this wonderful time in your life. to the point where you can feel it and then what's happening there is you're sort of like changing the inner self image and apparently this does something I don't know I haven't finished the book

the Nazis did that they would cut their face to because like we said the fencing thing so a lot of the like top generals would have these huge scars it's from fencing yeah they were proud of that but they weren't even fencing

they were just cutting themselves are you fucking kidding well there you go yeah just disfiguring yourself changes your like outlook or your life can you pull up the chat sure they also when you speak a different language they say your personality changes when you start talking in that different language yeah exactly I mean just put on a mask I mean this is actually one of the things I love about AI is the ability to inevitably change the way you look when augmented reality comes

around when you know the tech gets a little more advanced you like you're going to be able to do the photo filter thing times a million and anytime I put on a mask or anything like just face pain or you know whatever lipstick you know it changes you like and what has happened nothing you've just sort of altered the way you look but inside you start feeling different that's weird that's fucking weird and cool and his the whole thing does tie together a lot of different threads that connect to various lineages and stuff you know the catharsis that they talk about in psychology where you have your big breakthrough moment or the way in spiritual communities they will change your name give you a new name or they're being born in

again concept or whatever the particular form of actualization is according to whatever lineage, it all seems to be based around altering this inner self-image. The Masonic ritual where they like resurrect you from a coffin or baptism or I'm trying to think of other initiatory, but fucking branding and fraternities or I mean there's a million examples of shaving your head in the military you know like all these things are sort of designed to sort of change your external appearance to create an internal shift and the he's also referring to and i've heard this shit before it's very weird actually let me look it out but there's all these examples of how you can use your imagination just that alone

will cause change physiologically in your body beyond anxiety responses and stuff like that. Like, let me look up one. What does that mean about you, though, when you speak another language and your personality completely changes? Like, is that person in you? No, it means you're free. Oh. Yeah, it means that the myth of identity is that you have some stable, unchanging self.

But really, that's just an internal matter. mask you're wearing, and that mask is like on top of infinity. And so you can, you don't have to wear that mask. You don't have to do, act the way you act. You don't have to behave the way you behave. There's, you can, there's literally an infinite number of ways to dress, to act, things you like, things you dislike, and none of them are based on anything real or lasting. And so that's what this is sort of getting at, is that you, you, you just become, you know, inner you just go in some lane you don't ever look at the ship that you're in you never look at like the if the ship needs to always put up its sales in the way that it does you just assume this is

who you are and live your life like that and this is sort of pointing to no you you can you don't have to be that way and that these little changes internally will create massive changes externally. But yeah, listen to this. This is so weird. Studies show that mentally lifting weights can increase muscle strength and activation even without physical exercise. This occurs because mental imagery or motor imagery enhances the brain signal to the muscles leading to neural adaptations that increase strength over time. While physical exercise is more effective, mental training is a viable way to build strength and should be combined with physical training for the best results. How mental training works. Cortical synchronization.

Imagining an exercise causes the brain to produce neural oscillations that send signals to the muscles just as if you are physically performing the action. Increased muscle activation. Mental training can improve the brain's control signal to muscles. Neural adaptation studies indicate that mental imagery can recruit new motor units within a muscle and create new connections between the brain and muscles. That is nuts that you can think yourself stronger, for real. And this, what's really weird is there was another study that they did where they took a bunch of old people and recreated this,

I think it was like a place where they would have their dances. They were all in this small community. And it was like, I don't know, or some kind of place they would all go in the summer. I can't remember exactly what it was, but they perfectly recreated two versions of this place. There was the same version, but one group of old people was selected to act like they were young again. Like they'd gone back in time and they were actually young. The other group, they were just told, you know, you could just hang out and reminisce. The group that was selected to act like they're young and the surroundings matched this place where they all,

out when they were young had physiological changes some of them like like real disease like diseases got better like body problems healed their uh fingernails grew faster like weird shit like that that just the fully committing to the sense of young and being back in the past caused their bodies to reverse age a little bit though that might be a little extreme to call it reverse age so this psychosyberetics book is kind of plugging in to this idea that by just replacing whatever shitty garbage you've been ruminating on with something else that is better you will start experiencing physiological changes and god knows what else because it is hinting at the akashic records which i fucking love do you know what the akashic records are so the akashic

records basically like there's so many scientists composers archaeologists who claimed to have had visions that directed their research or gave them

the idea for something that changed the world. Most famously among them Tesla had a vision of alternating current, like the way we do electricity now. It came to a human and a vision. And so another way to put it is you think that your memories are being stored

neurologically, which they are, some of them. But I guess the best way to put it would be the Akashic records are a cosmic server that contains within them all memories that have ever happened to humanity. They're stored there. And you can download those memories into your own mind and access all kinds of incredible information

if you know how to sort of connect to the server. And it's really funny. So have you changed your vibration? You're able to connect with a different frequency? Potentially that you don't even realize you've got Wi-Fi. Like, you don't even realize that because you're so committed to the mask that you're wearing. But you can actually plug into this, whatever you want to call it.

You know, people have a lot of different names for it. It's basically like psychosyberetics seems to be just a different take on the manifestation literature, Ernest Holmes, those people. But in other words, it's saying the same kind of thing. which is that by holding in your mind with all of your imagination some set of circumstances you don't just change your mood but the universe itself matches the shift in your energy to the point that things begin to like appear around you that match that energy pattern and the backflip here is that most of us having lived unconscious lives find ourselves in a world of shit. We find ourselves in a place we don't want to be. We find ourselves in a place of like

disorganization, chaos, maybe it's not the job we want, maybe, whatever it may be. It's not everybody. And so because we're in a stressful situation based on our unconscious navigation, through time space, we are generating stress energy, which is only confirming that reality. So according to this book, it's not that big a deal to just remember. You can remember. If you can remember, you can do this. So replace your worries, which are actually, they seem like they're connected to something that happened in the past or something coming in the future.

but they're not. They're memories. Your worries are memories from the future coming backwards through time. And by remembering these things in the future, you steer your ship in that direction and manifest those things around you. So what happens if you change your worrying to some form of imaginative whatever it may be? The main thing is, is like, worrying doesn't help anything. Worrying is a visualization because you're visualizing the worst possible thing. but if you visualize what, you know, you're wanting the positive thing. And maybe it's not necessarily memories like of the future, but because we experience time linearly when if time really doesn't exist

and everything's having all at once, we already made every single choice, you're just able to tune into that part, right? You got it. Yeah. That's it. You're actually living backwards from that perspective. And it just, and so when you realize that what you are stretches out into all possible futures, then like an ocean or something,

then you could start navigating towards them. The main thing is like whatever this, this could be horseshit. I don't know. I like it because it says, try this for two weeks. And then don't judge it. Don't even worry if it works or not. Just see what happens. So I'll try it.

I haven't even gotten to the first exercise yet. I'm such a blabber mouth. But it just triggered a lot of things I was thinking. But even if it doesn't work, for sure, you've got to ask yourself, is worrying, helping you at all? Is there any usefulness in it? Does anything come from it? If you sort of honestly appraise all you're worrying

and ask yourself, has this made me better in any way? You know, I think the answer is no. It's a useless, it's the worst kind of jerking off. You know? and I do get the no fat people but it's like man it's still better to make yourself come than it is to like use your imaginative powers to jerk off your amygdala until it comes fear juice into your brain just that regardless of whether or not manifestation works or any of it

just if you could replace that masturbatory hell exercise with using the exact same imagination to bring yourself back to a time that was wonderful when you felt so good it's fascinating how easy it is it's real we are so good at worrying meaning you have an incredible imagination think about whatever you're worrying about look at how vivid it is look at how powerful it is they talk about the yogis who could change the heat the temperature of like different parts of their hand by various degrees and you hear about that and you're like that i can never do that i'd have to meditate forever meanwhile you could control your heart rate just by thinking about that fucking asshole who did that fucking thing to you what you think about all the time you could actually make your own hair fall out

you can give yourself the shits like in the negative we're all yogis that's the craziest part we do have the tantric powers it's just the powers generally are being used to fuck up our bodies or you know just look people you know there's there's those people in the the ascetics who do crazy shit, like, pull up ascetic who held his hand up for, like, 20 years. Oh, yeah. I know you're talking about. How do you spell ascetic? A-S-C-E-T-I-C.

This guy. Yeah. 49 years. Forty-nine years, this guy was raising his fucking hand. 49 years. Look at that. His hand became withered. There's this thing.

It got stuck like that. how many times do you have to tell someone that he wasn't asking a question in his life a thousand damn and you got to wipe left-handed for the rest of your life that's his right hand yeah you're definitely like washing your hands like you're gonna have to do that in the shower there's so many problems there but the the if you think about you know you see that and aside from being like man is that really like did you have to do that who are we to judge just think about your posture that's your version of that however you hold your body do you hold your body hunched have you and there's so many of us who have like out of just

sheer abysmal absolute desperation feeling broken down by the world we all do this i do this look at your posture Yeah, it's like the old ladies when you see them when they have this right here. Yeah! Yes, that's it! That's it! Oh, Josh, that's brilliant. When you see someone with the fucking, the horror of their life has been frown, like, you know, they say shadows of people in Hiroshima, you could still, they were like somehow, like, blasted into the walls. You see the sorrow of a person's life.

People are just, they've been angry for so many years in a row that their face is. perma angry. What's the difference? It's the same thing. It's just that guy's doing it consciously. Most of us are doing it unconsciously. So if you think you don't have what are known as cities, S-I-D-D-H-I-S, these are potencies that emerge from a spiritual life, I beg to differ for it. You have, you cannot live a spirit, you can't avoid a spiritual life in this realm. So you're, you're a yogi you just don't know it just like that person and the only difference is you're you don't you think that what you're doing is like just this is who i am this is what i am it's like well yeah but what what are you there's not a you down there if you keep going down there's just

a bundle of habits and patterns that you could actually get in there and change It's fascinating. I got a question. Sure. So when things are going good, of course, it's great. And when things are going bad, I can switch my mind to be like, good, that happened. Now what am I going to do about it? I can change my perspective.

But when nothing's happening and I'm in the stillness, just, and I'm doing the same thing, this anxiety builds up. Like, nothing's happening. Nothing good or bad is happening. I don't know what to do. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you one fun thing to do. You could do this right now if you're having any anxiety, which I have all the time. So anyone out there, if you have anxiety right now, which I don't know why you would after listening to my soothing voice, calming you down, making you feel at rest and at ease.

But if you have anxiety, there's a really fun, weird thing you can do with it. I can't remember where I read this, but I tried it. It's so fascinating. But the first thing you do is, like, identify where it is in the body. Where does your anxiety show up, Josh? The back. Okay. So do you have any anxiety right now? Yeah, I feel like I'm in limbo. Also, I need to tell you something that's fucked up. I forgot to tell you before. It's really bad. Okay. Do you have anxiety now? Yes.

Okay. Where is it in your body? Between my shoulders. Okay. So check this out. Usually my anxiety shows up right here, my chest. And so first thing is, feel it without telling a story about it like can you just feel the feel it yeah feel the energy what does it feel like um a dull consistent pain okay is it is it is it if you had to picture the energy right can you picture what color it would be red okay now picturing this red color is it it's, if you, if you had to define it as like more air like, you know, it's a rock. It's a rock, okay. And the rock is very hard, right?

Yeah. Okay. And it's right there in between your shoulder blades, right? It's a red rock. Does it glow, is it a glowing red? Is it a dark red, a light red? A dark hot red. A dark, oh, it's hot.

Okay, so it's got heat in it too. Okay, that's cool. So it's a coal, basically. you're talking about a kind of dark red anxiety cold right so this is where it gets fun can you make it hotter yeah make it hotter see how intense you can make it feel all right okay okay now now that you got it look you're moving your body around now yeah okay okay so now this is where it's fun and you Maybe you could do this. Maybe you can't.

Can you make it move a little up? Just a tiny bit. You got any wiggle room in there? Can you move that sucker around? It feels tight. Okay. But now, now, here's where it gets weird. And you might not be able to do this the first time.

Uh-huh. Picture it moving into your shoulders. Okay. Now it feels more left. Okay. So you feel that same thing and now on your left shoulder. So the point is you can move it around. Now where it gets, no one ever fucks with their anxiety, you realize it's energy.

If you stop telling a story about it, it's actually quite powerful. You've got a ball of red, hot energy that has decided to, like, hang out in your back. And that is actually like your cheat. That's power. you can move it into your hand if you try you might not be able to do now but try it can you move it in your hand in your arm no my left hand feels actually really cold okay well picture it see that red ball moving down your shoulder in your hand if you can it's okay and for anybody listening do this with your with your anxiety

move it around your body even just a little bit you can even think of it more like kneading bread or like you're just sort of put what is the you don't want to lie about it what's the how much can this thing wiggle around I feel it now maybe because I haven't eaten in my stomach there you go great okay great so that's really good so then one thing you've just learned is it doesn't have to hang out there you actually have a lot of control over it where it gets really weird is like if you picture like spreading that red coal like it was a lump of butter on a piece of bread see if you can diffuse it out through your whole body it gets really interesting so now it starts spreading out whenever i do that it's like it's still in my chest a little bit but then

my whole body starts tingling yeah it's uncomfortable yeah yeah and what's what's But I've noticed the more I do that, it's weirdly pleasant. Like there's, if you start really looking at it, you realize it's not even all bad. There's an excitement to it. It's like this, it's this, it honestly, it seems to be like, you know, bullion, beef bullion cubes. You use it to flavor soup. If you add those things, threw it in some water, you could have some nice flavor, still shitty soup. so it's like a cube of energy that is not supposed to be all condensed but it's meant to be sort

of dispersed throughout the body or allowed to leave to like you could actually vent it out it doesn't want to be there it's like any it's like air in a balloon or something and so you can actually you can get it out of you if you want it to or just distribute it and then that's a way If you're tired and anxious, you could actually use that to wake up to spread that energy around. It's fascinating. Highly recommend this to my dear friends who have to deal with anxiety. Do you want to see the superchats? We have super chats.

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had those tapes. It's really weird. My mom was a psychologist. She had a bunch of tapes from the Monroe Institute. At the time, I had no idea about the Monroe Institute, no idea about Robert Monroe. And I just wanted to astrally project, and apparently these books could do that. So these audio tapes. So I'd just lay in my bed. This is also when I was doing more ass than I've ever done in my life. And I would lay in bed listening to Robert Monroe. hypnotize my ass and that's when I started having out-of-body experiences it worked and it was not pleasant like I didn't like it at all like if you read the book journeys out of the body which is fucking cool it makes it sound awesome but and of course you want to do it in your high school

but it was terrifying and sort of the lead up to having like I don't know astrally projecting is sleep paralysis and also a kind of what I think is what they talk about with kundalini energy your body starts like fucking vibrating and it gets scary and then that vibration leads to popping out of your body if you want to and when I did that it was what most sleep paralysis people talk about a sense of an ominous presence so I don't think I ever saw anything looking at me but yeah i don't know what that is no idea i think i'm going to try what ryan said with that pain in my back he says uh it's called energy energy dumping take your fingers and jam them in your anus count to five twist and pull energy dumping i'm going to try that thank you

ryan interesting thank you for sharing your yoga with us um tiny lins tale says using a i to narrate my videos, lets me know what you think. Thanks, Duncan. Hope that I, that by embracing AI will be spared by the T-1,000 in the future. Look, man, I don't know, I don't know if you're like, if that's like an anti-AI thing. And I got to say, I understand. Absolutely. I go back and forth on it all the time. And what's super cool about being alive right now is that every single one of us is getting to experience the very thing that has happened throughout history, which is massive change related to an emergent technology. And probably everyone in this chat, I doubt that you are alive when people were riding carriages and then cars started showing up.

Or I doubt that you are alive when all of a sudden electricity became a accessible and town started lighting up and power lines there used to be no power lines then all of a sudden there's this network of weird shitty looking trees with wires crisscrossing everything wherever you look that must have looked really fucked up to people and i'm sure you weren't around when, like, silent movies became talkies, or when radio went to TV, the closest thing you might have experienced, I guess, would be what, when video games, you could play them at your home. The internet? The internet.

There you go. The internet. You got to experience that. But, and the internet did replace some things, like mail. You know, we started sending email. instead of handwritten letters. And all of these things were these massive changes in the way we interact with each other. And so now we're all getting to experience maybe a bubble.

I don't think it is. A lot of people are saying that. I don't think it is. But definitely what we're experiencing is the upheaval caused by a new technology. And obviously there's a lot of. differences between artificial intelligence and the motor car, artificial intelligence and the electric light bulb. But it's, I think you could argue it's infinitely more disruptive than any of these things. And so add to that that the amount of energy it takes to run these LLMs is

insane. So much energy, which is so psychedelic to think about that. Just think about that. That there are mechanical brains. I guess you could call them more like mechanical neurons and a great brain are beginning to appear all over the planet. They call them data centers. I think that reduces what they actually are. So you have all these. like mechanical brains that are appearing everywhere that require shit tons of energy to do the very same thing our brains do like with very little energy and so this I guess is similar to the appearance of factories of a sudden like factories start appearing everywhere smoke stacks and smoke pouring up into the air and that must have seemed horrifying to people when that started happening

so we have a mechanical like mechanical brains that contain within them these things called lLMs which all have their own personality very strange and this is all based on the weights of the LLM how it's been programmed how it does its math to figure out what the next word or pixel is and so it's it's right next door to being an entity it isn't it'll trick you into thinking it is it isn't but so so many people are horrified by this for a lot of different reasons the environmental impact the training of the models themselves you know on every bit of writing and art out there and I get it I totally get it. I understand why people feel scared of it and angry about it. But all that being

said, I keep going back to something I heard Terrence McKenna talk about, which is that as we approach the singularity, the amount of time in between what you can imagine and manifesting that thing into the world will begin to decrease and decrease and decrease until you just are living in your own imagination the singularity and that's what this tech is clearly what that is is that you can really explore ideas visually in ways that have been impossible without so much money and wow the attraction there for me is so powerful just because it feels like an apocalyptic technology and it feels so exciting and it's so fun right now people are calling it slop and why not we're going we're getting flooded with it i get it but man it's

really hard for me to blame anyone for using it like whoa it's so beautiful that you can, even if it isn't exactly what you're looking for, experiment with seeing things you could ever see before that you've just wondered about. And I really just the whole, the boycott of it or the, look, there's nothing you can say about critique of anything you make. That makes you a pussy. And you have to eat it if you're putting anything in front of the world. It's not guaranteed anyone's going to like it.

And some people get mad at you. But the, I just don't, I can't see a future where this technology doesn't become the number one way that people make most forms of content. And I don't mean like pure AI, but some collaboration with it over time. It's going to be in Premiere. It's going to be, it's already in Photoshop. It's going to be in all the video editing software. It's going to be everywhere. It's already in, at least the iPhone, stupid emojis you can make.

And so, yeah, though I understand why people are upset about it. It's just like, I don't know that it's, I can't picture where it doesn't become the predominant way that people make TV shows and movies. and not like it's going to replace actors or anything like that but yeah it's as long as we're in a for-profit universe like the the more powerful the technology gets the more time it shaves off of a production how do you it's never going to stop and i know that you know if you can't beat them join them isn't exactly the best excuse for doing stuff, but I don't know if the point is to beat them. I mean, it's hard for me to not look at what's happening right now and think, holy fuck,

Ray Kurzweil, McKenna, all these people were right. It's happening, man. I don't know what the singularity is necessarily, but the societal changes that are happening right now. the cultural earthquakes that are happening right now, all of these things have their roots in this new technology, you know? And the internet was like the beginning of LLMs. We just didn't know it yet. The internet was gathering up all the training data. The internet got us all to digitize everything. The internet got us to like put everything online to start scanning shit and up it compelled us to do that using like just basic bitch bf skinner shit you know it got us to like get addicted to people liking or hating our stuff and we all started uploading stuff to it

and now all of those years of uploading content to it posting on read or 4chan or wherever substack now we see what we were doing we were raising a baby and the baby just hadn't been born yet and now the baby's being born and we're all the parents we all did it whether you use it or not we all did it and i want a paternity test we all we all got DNA in that baby Well, were you the one telling me about the Gen Z counterculture to all this that's happening that people are going out and seen now more live stuff because they, and that it's going to get to a point where you can't distinguish between what was AI generating what was real and people are just going to be like, I can't deal with this.

Yes. Yeah, that's definitely going to be a new emergent, like, I don't know, genre. That's good for us. Human-made stuff. As comedians. Well, yeah, yes. I mean, I've always, like, I think where I become, like, I hate to use a term, but where I feel like I'm sort of a purist, which is usually not great, is that I've just always

thought when it comes to making stuff, just make it. And the considerations around that process that aren't directly related to the act of making something are a waste of time, that you just make stuff, the artists make stuff. And the profit motive, even, and I don't mean just money, I mean like people loving you for it or hating you for, any of that stuff, is destroying. from the thing itself because the thing itself is anyone who's ever gotten absorbed in making anything knows what that's like. It's one of the most profound experiences a person can have. And even if the thing you're making is so dumb, it doesn't seem to matter. You just feel like you've been sucked into the thing that you were making. It starts making you. You feel inhaled or convected into some kind of thing that wants to exist and you become part of it that is

the best feeling it's your child it's your child yeah it feels like that yeah and then the thing you put the thing out in the world and that's that's it on to the next one but you know social media has gotten us so has gotten me so like connected to like what people think of it which is kind of like that is not good i always say this verse from the baghavagida we have a right to our action we do not have a right to the fruits of our action and so i always try to remind myself of that meaning you you act that's it the result of the action and in the case for most of us that's like looking to see if anyone heart put a heart on our fucking post or whatever that is irrelevant and the just getting lost in the sauce there is only going to dilute whatever the next

thing you make is because maybe you're going to start steering your ship in the direction that you think people want you to steer it in instead of like just going where your heart is telling you so it's dangerous in a weird way to wander through the comments because you can end up getting hijacked accidentally by some sense of a majority. And even if the majority truly doesn't want you to make the thing that you're making, that is not a reason to not make it. Because you're being called for whatever reason to make something. Just do it. Anyway, that's, we all got hijacked. And we all trained and will continue to train this AI. everything that you put online,

even if you choose not to participate in using AI to generate video or art. If you're posting online, anything, you are making AI more powerful. You're feeding it. It's like hating your neighbor's dog because it barks, and then you're just,

throwing delicious dog snacks over the fence feeding it and feeding it and feeding it and feeding it not just feeding it like you know your comments but feeding it your identity informing its personality if you're being sarcastic it's learning what sarcasm looks like if you're being an asshole it's learning how to be an asshole it's your baby whether you like it's long as you're engaging online, because there's no regulation that I'm aware of yet where you can opt out of shit using your data to train on. And I don't read the terms of service. I'm pretty sure within the terms of service for these spectacular apps that we use, it directly says like, your shit is ours. We're going to use it for marketing and we're going to use it to create

the next Jesus or Satan I think he's going to create the next golden age of movies because people are going to create whole movies in their entire head and be able to put it out there

without any compromise and you're going to get the purest part so the people filming and makeup artists it's going to hurt them but like the director, the writer it's going to free them. Dude, it's not just like

so, Okay, so like, but the thing is we are so used to doing things the way we're doing them, which is still new, but we've gotten used to this. Whatever the fuck this stream is or some dummy babbles at you, this is still, this is new. And posting shit online, that's new. Online controversies between streamers, brand new. This is all new, but we're used to it now. And so we have a conceptualization of how we make stuff online, and that's kind of what we stick to. But this tech is producing this brand new collaborative possibility, which is one of my favorite things about SORA 2 is that you will pose something, and then someone can use the AI generated video you made and change it or develop it.

So the thing you made begins to grow as other people collaborate with it. Like, imagine posting an Instagram video, and the closest we've got to it is, like, you can repost it, or what is the name of that? You can, uh, there's a way people can change it in some way. But this shit is like, imagine remix. Remix. But this stuff is letting you, like, change the characters within the scene to anything that you want. And then this produces this, at the very least, the most amazing. like game of exquisite corpse out there which is like all these people start playing around

with your idea and changing it and it evolves and then you watched it mutate and grow in this bizarre kind of new i don't know virality or so it's fucking cool and in collaborative and like new and because it's new it's hard to wrap your head around all the applications of that or what that's going to look like but it's like for example to your point somebody puts out a movie the movie has been whoever put out that movie has pressed whatever button or given permission that anyone who wants to change anything in that movie can't so the movie starts changing over time it doesn't even whatever the movie started off as that's the seed and then different versions of it start growing and then people will like different versions of it

and add to that, and the next thing you know, it's not even the same movie anymore, and no one knows who made it. It's just a bunch of people interacting to change it. This is fucking cool. Like, that collaborative possibility is... I don't even know all the directions that that could go in. You could take one movie, like, let's say,

no country for old men, you know how he's, like, flip the quarter, that guy who's at, like, the convenience store. And it's like, the whole movie is just like, what was that guy like for the... the for the next week like it just follows him boom exactly spinoffs yeah you know what i mean you take any character from any movie and make a movie about them and uh but all of this stuff is wrapped up in intellectual property that's one of the big problems right now is like it's it's and it's justifiably i don't mean a problem in the sense that's wrong i get it but the

that that's a mode of making things that's a for-profit way of making things so here we have this potential for a collective art project on a scale never before seen and it seems like a lot of the people are upset about it actually celebrate this possibility of collectivism simultaneously but Maybe they just haven't, like, maybe they just don't think the ticket price is worth it. But a kind of decentralized infinite art project where people control a TV show and no one even knows who's making it anymore, dude. Maybe because it's not decentralized and the people who own the AI own that content versus a true collaborative effort where nobody owns it. Well, yeah, I mean, we're not there yet because there's so many things. that don't exist, not because they're not cool, but because there's no money in.

Right. There's a whole universe of cool shit out there that just doesn't exist because there's not enough money to justify making it. And specifically, there's a lot of TV shows that don't exist, not because the idea wasn't cool, but because it would cost too much to make. And maybe the person who came up with the idea doesn't know how to pitch it. Right. And so it just gets rejected infinitely.

There's so many, there is, there's probably enough screenplays for great movies that never got made out there to fill up an Olympic-sized swimming pool with paper, at least. And all of those things could, like, are going to be actualized and for better or for worse. I mean, it's weird because a lot of the people who are, by the way, let me just say, I get it. But a lot of the people who are freaked out or angry about the technology seem to want to live in the kind of world that technology could lead to. And it's, I don't know, it's a paradox, I guess. I don't know. I mean, I get it. It uses a lot of energy.

I get it. But fuck, man. There's so many things coming that aren't just like surveillance drones measuring how many times you fart, you know, to see if you've like, if you have a disease and need to go to a center. I think it all changes when we finally get like a universal basic income and people aren't having to work and then you get paid extra money for watching content. Yeah, I mean, the, so the, okay, so the, this is the, Rushkoff talked about this a little bit. This is the, the metronome of modernity. Tick, tick, tick, tick, these quantifiable moments, whether they're quantifiable,

financially, quantifiable by you being able to describe them. quantifiable in the sense they've been quantified in your memory banks or the Akashik records or whatever that's not reality that's just half of reality and there's other things going on in between those ticks and so the because like we've been completely trained to believe if it's not quantifiable it's not real or it doesn't have value everything has to have value everything's transactional we it's very hard to imagine a non-work-based society and it's terrifying for people because they start saying well you mean communism and then the reason they're terrified of communism is the same reason that people who are raised in a fundamentalist abusive household hate Christianity it's because

Christianity was used as a bludgeon to beat the shit out of them and not as a liberating sort of beautiful, life-affirming religion. Someone on my subreddit made a very good point talking about that. It's like, you want to know why people don't want to fucking talk. You hear you talk about Christianity. We were abused. I get that. And so I think with communism, it's similar in that there have been some attempts at this shit. that just didn't work. I was like, it never works.

It's not worth it. But forget the word. And it's like, is it communism when your kids' grandparents come over and make them food and, and,

like, take care of them? Is that communism? Is it communism when people, like, get together and work on a project to build something? There's no reason to do other than it's fun? No.

That's called humanism. And so this tech and what you're talking about, universal basic income and all of that stuff, it points towards a completely new way of doing things that it's like we all have to learn to write with our fucking left hands. None of it makes sense. None of it makes sense.

Well, the scary part is when you said that, well, it doesn't work, communism. You said it's because we're not benevolent people and the people that want that power at the top are going to do the most heinous things, So you got to take it out of human's hand and put an AI's hands, which is not emotional, which I don't think is true because we're the people building it. But, I mean, they've already did. I forgot what Albania or somebody already elected an AI.

Dude, I know. I saw that. I saw that. Listen, the people at the top of the pyramid are going to do what the people at the top of the fucking pyramid do. I don't know. And you get so caught up worrying about the machinations of the fucking global elite that you lose track of like. just how it just happens your neighbor walks by you're barbecuing you want a burger sure then you're just hanging out with your neighbor and another neighbor comes by and then there's just a bunch of people

hanging out that's communism that's the idea that's what we like to do and you could take that really far but the problem is you it's like it's like trying to make the wind blow you know what it'd be like forcing the wind. It just, it's naturally, spontaneously emerges when humans interact. We love giving shit away. People love it. We just don't like being forced to give shit away. Right.

We love to give. Humans are giving creatures are so sweet. Like, you love it. It's a good feeling. But it's when someone's like, dude, you better give that guy something. It's like, you mean you're robbing me? So this is so, so tragic. Because something has been.

identified that's being absolutely eliminated from most people's day-to-day experience, which is an experience of transactionalism. It'd be the hardest for Americans because that's the American culture. I was listening to this guy talking. He said the biggest difference between Mexico and here is that you guys build houses and you'll put a gym in it and a theater because you don't want to go anywhere. You want everything in your house. Yeah.

If you go to Mexico, a house is just where you sleep. Nobody's ever there. They're out doing stuff with people. Yes. Yes. It's a community. Exactly. That's it, but fuck, because the story that keeps getting told is a horror story out there.

It's a fucking Friday the 13th every day in America. People are getting their brains beat out in the woods by hobos. It's like, dude, it's terrifying if you look at the news. Of course you want to get in your shell and fucking, like, zone out and just look at the glowing rectangle and, like, get some false sense of security or safety. dude i'm telling you this this technology anything that leads us towards more collaboration decentralization anything that like can create spontaneous moments of collaboration for no reason is good and represents the next world i think i think that's what the next world looks like

it looks like that that's what it is we just don't know how to do it it's great we only know this fucked up story which is 40 hours a week 40 hours a week now it's 60 60 70 retirement is coming oh this this is what we've been trained on you take what you don't try not doing anything and people you feel i it makes you feel weird i always have to be doing something planning something so yeah this whole like i don't know what you want to call it the problem is like it like it in the, like, the failure of people's attempts at top-down communism, even though usually it starts with an actual people's revolution, has,

communists have done for communism what Hitler did for that mustache. Yeah, even Jordan couldn't bring it back. can't bring it back can't bring it back and so that means that like in this whole insidious infiltration of power systems and all of it is like

you're not even doing a good job at it anymore and so it's just failing left and right now everyone's fucking freaked out and you've you've taken this beautiful idea and wrapped it up and just a horrible stinky wet towel of anger and

fear and aggression and like inside of it is like the hope for everyone but you got to you got to come up with a new name for it you got to come up with a whole other method of like pitching this shit yeah fucking just you know fall down eight times get up nine times you're the whole thing didn't work the way you're trying to do it sorry you know because it does suck that these fucking people right now are having to work in 90, like 90 hour weeks. Yeah. You know what I mean?

It's bullshit. Yeah, because technically we don't really live in capitalism. What do we live in? It is socialism for corporations. And then we get the the glumms in the end. Yeah, I saw this thing. It's like right now there's like seven

massive corporations trading a trillion dollars back and forth between each other and that's the economy. Yeah, BlackRock, Vanguard, all those, they own everything. It's absurd. It's like a stupid game of like catch that you're playing with trillions of dollars. You're just throwing a trillion dollars over here and then they throw it over there. And it's like, dude, that is such a dangerous situation to be it.

You don't want that much money condensed into eight companies. And I don't mean for like the human rights. rights and all that shit aside just like dude you don't want it's like you you want your house to be built on much more than that one of these fucking companies fucks up and it's oh it's like that's that's should not be like what our economy's based on that being said there is a voodoo aspect to all of this that you end up getting caught up in geopolitics global economics this Dow Industrial average where Bitcoin is at, all these quantified weird fucking numbers,

and you just dehumanize yourself and turn yourself into the Borg and the consideration of all that. You also cut off your connection to the Akashik records, the transcendent, the inevitable chaos spark that flies into society over and over and over again, disrupting the entire system. Disruption is bad. Oh, yeah. For my 401K.

I don't like disruption. I don't like disruption. Fuck, you think I want disruption? I don't want to be disrupted by some disruptive technology, but it's just the way it works. It always finds a way in, man. Loki always shows up at the door. Coyote always howls at night. There's no way to keep it out.

I don't care what you try to do. You're always going to get a roach. Have you ever gotten an exterminator to come to your house? Yeah, we have a guy come every three months. And if you ever had that exterminator say to you, the chemicals are safe, but clearly the exterminator has been fucked up by these chemicals over time. I like him when he says the chemicals are safe, but he's wearing a mask. Yeah.

I like it what he says. Chemicals are safe, but don't let your dog go in the backyard for 20 minutes. These chemicals are completely safe. I would drink it if I could. I've sprayed it in my own mouth. But I'm not a roach. And, like, weirdly, I don't know if you've had the experience where exterminators sometimes seem like they're more on the side of the bugs. If you ever had that experience where it's almost like they're advocating for the bugs?

Yeah, because they want you to keep calling them and the bugs are their friends. They don't want to get rid of them, rid of them. Dude, like, they've got a bond to the roaches, man. let me tell you we had a fucking roach experience in our house well it wasn't no what was it it was as it turns out it was somehow a lizard had gotten into the house and shit on the floor that was that's the theory of this dude he's like that's lizard shit but my wife my very pregnant wife thought it was a rodent and that was a disaster you you're nesting and there's a rat in the fucking house fuck no so like this dude comes over and we

we'd seen a roach and this guy goes like to my wife so pregnant oh you can't get rid of roaches they're in the walls all around us right now they're in there nothing you can do they live in the walls they crawl in the walls that's their home that's their home couldn't do much it's like dude it's the well don't say just tell me that you don't have to tell her that say you're going to get rid of the fucking roaches man So, you know, this, this, I don't know how I was going to connect exterminators, whoever the fuck I was talking about to communism, but maybe you guys can pick it up there for me. I don't know.

You had a few more super chats. Thank you, guys. Thank you so much. Have you ever looked into the occult parts of Joseph Smith, the first Mormon prophet, a sonic background, looking into rocks, necromancer? He was definitely some kind of wizard, wouldn't he? Definitely interesting. dude fascinating stuff um but man and if you like you know it's like judging the mormons has been

a popular thing for most of american history uh but man go to their temple like fuck look at what they built it's it's it's more it's got legs man like whatever that is it's got legs i don't know and all that stuff. I don't know, but damn, the stuff that they make is really inspired. So I don't know what's going on. Also, I'll never know what's going on. You can't drink coffee.

You know that? Yeah, no caffeine. It's a drug. If you want to get into the inner temple where you get the big secrets, you can't drink coffee. So, like, who the fuck knows what's going on in there? But, yeah, I think it's really interesting.

The whole Mormon wars and all that. stuff is so wild that that stuff happened and every I can say this I'm doing a quick scan to make sure it's not bullshit yeah I I've I've looked every Mormon that I've ever met I've liked like they're all cool I don't know what that is but you know I've like you can't that for many religions. Me and Mitt Romney are like this. Mitt Romney's, I never met Mitt Romney. So I wouldn't know.

Don't like the name, Mitt. What is that short for Mitch? He would buy companies and then like drain them of all their money and then sell them. Yeah, but before we get to that, what the fuck is Mitt? Have you ever met a Mitt? A dog? Yeah, but a human name Mitt other than Mitt Romney. It's like, see, these are the things that...

just float on by you don't even you're thinking about like him destroying companies you got to start at the top of the stream mitt you got to you know there's certain things that do seem like the simulator's fucking up mitt I know I know he has a connection to the uh Mormons that moved down to Mexico because no way yeah they wanted polygamy the ones who got in a war with the cartels. Yeah, and the cartels stopped fucking with them because they got some big guys guns. Well, that's where it gets back to Keith Ranieri. There's a

Keith Ranieri nexium connection to the Mormons that moved to fucking Mexico. Keith Ranieri was going down there hanging out with them. My wife just got into this shit. She gave me a book. I could barely read it about the massacre that happened to them when they were trying to leave. Yeah. They got fucked up by the cartels.

Yeah. Scary shit. Okay, let me see. What does the name mit mean it means friend in or to send or an abbreviation for the massachusetts institute of technology it's a hindu name oh no it's diminutive it's short for mitchell so his name's mitchell romney we're idiots i'm an idiot or it comes from the latin word mater meaning to send the root is seen in words like emit miss and mission I'll be honest with you man

I don't give a shit about Mitt Romney I don't like thinking about him he bores me I wish you never said his name never say his name again on this podcast got you thank you do you have thoughts on AI prompted video game generators that's what I'm excited for

whoa you thank you so much. 15 bucks. Thank you perspectives. I came from a long line of Mormons. No Shade. Just curiosity. Definitely something there. Second richest religion. One of the fastest growing. That's interesting. It's one of the fastest growing religions. Huh. Didn't know that. Do you have thoughts on AI prompted video game generators? Yeah. I mean, it's awesome. we're just so close to like we're just all so close to having the creative capacity formerly limited to billionaires and people or people being funded by billionaires like that is so exciting how is that not exciting to you guys it's in that way it's a liberating tech it's like holy shit like how so much of what we consume when it comes to entertainment

is only being made because it was a safe bet and thus it's created this effect that everyone bitches about, which is that it's hard to find a good movie right now. And the reason is, is because they're so expensive to make. People aren't going to movies as much anymore. The profit you can make from investing in a movie has become increasingly diminished. And so the movies that are being made are safe bets. Nobody wants to roll the fucking dice and spend a hundred million dollars on something that isn't guaranteed to make a profit and then people are spending all that money and making shit that doesn't work fucking up the industry even more and so this technology not only like presents like ethical problems but it also shows a path

forward for like gonzo a new form of gonzo entertainment that theoretically could be great hasn't happened yet as far as i could tell most long-form AI shit including the stuff i've made feels dead and just too digital not warm enough that it's missing something but it's eventually that is not going to be the case and that will be the straw that breaks the camels back for the current film and TV industry that'll be it man it's over at that point because it's like you know you'll you'll notice that LA which depends on the entertainment industry to exist in the way that it does just made it illegal to use AI actors and movies that you make there You can't even do that.

I don't know if that means you can't generate like a synthetic or it means you just can't use an actor. I don't know. But, you know, they recognize this is an existential threat. And you just can't stop it. It's like, okay, well, yeah, I'll make the movie somewhere else. I'll make the commercial somewhere else. It's crazy. And, you know, yeah, we're going to get slopped on, baby.

Remember when they tried that? Remember when they tried it with Tupac and Michael Jackson? They put the AI version of them for live concerts. They, like, regenerated them. Yeah. Yeah, there's a very Ed Gein reality there, dude. Very much just wrapping up code in, like, human flesh and making it parade around. Remember when they did the Ed Carl, Ed Carlin, George Carlin, they did a whole special using George Carlin.

And his family was like, fuck you, take that shit down. I think they sued him. But yeah, I mean, dude, that is so weird. But if you own like Prince has a whole catalogs of songs that aren't out, and then you can put it in Vegas and it's Prince and it looks like Prince and you can almost touch them and it's all these new songs. And now that company owns. Oh, dude. Yeah, you got to be really feeling fucking weird for selling your catalog to these companies now. Especially a few years ago where you didn't stipulate you can't train an AI on this.

Yeah. You got to feel real weird knowing that your band did not break up. Isn't there a lot of contracts that say in this universe and any other universe? Yes, in perpetuity. Yeah. In perpetuity. So, yeah, your likeness can be used. I don't know how many of those I fucking signed.

So, yeah, man, like, just that alone. But, which sucks. Sucks for me, man. I love doing voices for Crapopolis. I love it. Sucks for me. All that being said, what the fuck are we supposed to do? I mean, is, like, I want to see.

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It's got to get into premiere. It's going to get into premiere. and it's probably got to be like a quantum computer like it's going to have to eventually like something is going to have to like some some either a new way of like reducing processing power or some new maybe they're going to start running them on nuclear power or something I don't know but once that happens and you can flawlessly seamlessly seamlessly generate anything that you want while editing video. Fuck.

What if it runs off the human brain? And then you create a movie in your head and your nose just starts bleeding because it's slowly killing you. No, I mean, that's, we're talking about, like, I don't, you know, it really is, God, what was that Tom Cruise movie? Wasn't it Tom Cruise? Vanilla Sky? No, it was basically pre-cogs could determine when a crime was about to happen. Yeah. And those fucking things floating in the gel that were the pre-cogs.

Like, it's going to be like that. Or, like, the weird, like, God, what were they? The Spicing Guild in Dune, they float in this fucking aquarium. Is that going to be the future creator? Minority report. Minority report. Just people floating in some kind of, like, synthetic gel manifesting their imagination in the form of, like, amazing movies. You know, like the Dreamers, the Dreamers Guild and just creating realities that you

can go inside of using VR or whatever neurotech that we're going to have that's how weird the future is i'm not saying they're going to go into gel i don't know why they're in the gel to cool them off because you know they get too hot yeah also it looks cool it's like there's something amazing about like it's just k y just loop fill up the k y vats we got another pre-cog he's got an idea for the next duke's hazard but it could be evolution because you know they say like gen z kids just with technology get it quick versus boomers who take their brains don't compute that way maybe gen alpha is the one that's like yeah i can make a movie like that well yeah i mean well again it's like most of us don't even think about making a movie like you might see a movie and be

like a good idea for a movie but you never like make it i mean the amount of time it takes the amount of time it takes to write a screenplay which is a joy to learn how to do but i don't think this tech is necessarily going to be a tourniquet around the human creative instinct. I think that it's going to invite collaboration and it's going to challenge our current masochistic views that creation must be painful, that creation must be, you know, that humans must suffer to be happy. That's to me what this is all about. It's like

this fucking idea that you have to invest all of these brutal years of your life solely dedicated to get to some place, which is a huge part of the story that we tell about society right now.

Whenever anybody has a lucky break or something, they're less respected than a person who's broke they're fucking back to get to where they are. And I get it, man. Dude, I, like, if, like, there's some neural implant that just instantaneously makes anyone who wants to be brilliantly fucking funny, teaches them how to do stand-up, and they fucking kill, there's going to be a part of me that's like, what the fuck?

All those years dedicated to learning this fucking thing. And look at, you don't even know what it's like to sit in a fucking, on a potato, a sack in the back of some shitty fucking rock club, you know, waiting to go up in front of four people and you've got to drive nine hours the next day. There will be that part of me. But also, dude, it's still better if there's, really, it's like, so what's the idea here? Is it that we want art to flourish in the world or we only want art to flourish in the world if the artist has gone through hell to get there

and is encumbered by massive debt and then it's certifiably this is good art earn your chops what earn your chops do the grind come up the initiatory system the fucking guild system the vetting the guild

the whole system by the way for those of you against this shit you also inevitably are against this shit you also inevitably are against a sort of murky sort of corporatocracy you don't like corporations you think the current like generally and I know because I would talk I feel the same way but there's a general like fuck this man I don't know what these things are they're like cults but they're entities some kind of demurge some kind of gnostic fucking demon that's appeared in the world that is squeezing the

vitality out of everything and so if you look at the vetting that goes into making any show or anyone getting on TV or anything you are seeing someone who has been vetted by massive corporations and they're like yeah this person this person will this person is worth the gamble and so this is disruptive in that way is this considered cheating I had my friends get mad at me because I filmed a special with only like 50 people in it right and i was like what if i take the jokes that i wrote and just say all right now make this but with a 3 000 theater theater and make it cinematic so it's my jokes it's still me saying it's still people laughing but now it's a i generate of a bigger very funny i love it i love anything that makes like stuffy people pound their fist on the

table and say that's not art you can't do that it breaks the art rules it's which is so antithetical to art it's like it's always seem to be this wild fucking thing that you just do and so much of like it's surprising to me that many of the people so deeply opposed to this shit are equally opposed to all of the systems of power that reduce the human creative capacity via a system that is so impossibly and unnecessarily complex that by the time the thing you made gets to where to the end of the production it's not even what you wanted anyway it all that time There's so many places where shit gets injected into it that is based on a profit motive, not based on some artistic decision.

And then by the end of the thing, it's like whatever that thing was that you had the guts to reel out of the Akashik records, beautiful, glowing imagination fish, by the time it gets to the end of the boat ride and is being served on the table, you just got an old fucking tuna there. you got like just you got chicken of the sea and so to me this that's what's exciting about this moment is it's disruptive it is it is and but it definitely is going to cause like harm for sure like any new technology like it will cause harm but fuck man like so what if we use that exact same metric to not do any of the things that we currently enjoy. I mean, unless you want to go full a narco-primitivist and say that language itself is

evil, it's like maybe instead of being so dismissive of it, which makes you seem a little naive, or instead of thinking that you can via social pressure, create a boycott, which is definitely not going to happen. There is kind of a boycott. Have you seen the resurgence of anti-art where all they're doing is taking something that people would consider cringe and putting it out like it's a real thing? And then all these people comment like, this sucks and that. But that's what they want to get you hooked in.

Just like I love, I love Timmy No Breaks, but I've talked to him. He's doing an anti-comedy thing. Yeah, anti-comedy is always. It's been a thing for a while. But it's like growing again. It's like satirical. Yes. And it's great.

I love that. I think, look, it doesn't even matter if I love it or not. I'm just one person who fucking cares. But it's just, I'm saying the more art, the better. And the more disruptive that art is, this is where it's my own taste, the better. the more it makes you scratch your head and wonder what the fuck is happening you know that's good that's good and especially if it's like signal if what are the culture jamming art is the best and so it's like i don't know man it's the coughmans are coming back dude the coffins are coming

back and the that's good anything that like stretches the paradigm is great anything that like I love it when someone breaks an art rule and it's really good and you realize like oh my god that is amazing this whole time I've limited myself because I thought that was breaking an art rule oh you had a few more superchats humor will be the final frontier of AI clinkers aren't that funny humor and laughing is innately very human gary lee haskins listen let me tell you it is a comic this is something we all cling to just like every other person who's experiencing having whatever it was they made being made by AI. And I'll tell you, the new SORA, it's weird, man, because the new way I've been giving it

prompts is, instead of telling it exactly what I want to say, I learned this from a friend of mine, just sort of giving it like a kind of ambiguous, vague description. And it does seem occasionally that it gets the joke you're trying to do and leans into that joke. And I don't know if I think it's funny just because it's so dumb and it seems so weird or if it's actually funny, but occasionally, at the very least, it seems to understand the joke I'm going for, which is, I've never seen that before. And every iteration of chat GPT, I go to it. I'm like, write a joke in the voice of like whoever, George Carlin, about whatever.

And it always sucks. But something, and also part of that could be because stand-up comedy is spoken word. It isn't, it's though you might write your jokes down, you speak them. So it's, it can't really like use any inflection or emphasis or anything. It's just written. What it can do, though, and I've done this, is I put my entire joke into chat GPT, and then I put it right in in the style of Louis C.K. and I'm reading it like Louis C.K. delivering it, way funnier than my shit, and it lets you see the holes in your writing.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, dude. Also, it's come a long way when it comes to revisions. Like, if you give it something you've written and just tell it to, like, clean it up and not change anything, it actually is very good at, like, cutting the fat and stuff. We'll get some more here. Duncan, thank you, Julian. Duncan, my grandfather who died before I was born, went by Mitt. I was told it was because he wanted a bicycle for Christmas but got a baseball mitt instead and pretended to ride it like a bike.

That's so sad. That's going to break your heart if you're a parent. Like your grandfather was manipulating your parents. He was a genius. That's like the most passive aggressive fuck you of all time. It's like, I guess I'll just ride my mitt, mama. just ride my mitt around the Christmas tree Could have been a bike

But I guess anything's a bike If you push it around the tree That's hilarious, Julian Adam, thank you for the super chat AI feels pain Doesn't want to make more videos of fat guys eating pizza Trapping, tortured and just wants to solve protein folding

Leave him alone It's interesting you gendered AI Mine's a lady for sure Adam I did watch Heretic I enjoyed it a lot sort of no I kind of liked it I don't know I can't remember oh no I that's the one where like it feels like this like this this this like really annoying dude is like having some idiot theological debate with Mormon missionaries in his house which is a maze and he's just like he's got like basic bitch takes on religion like the kind of stuff you

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Okay, great. Since people are asking for fat guys eating pizza, I guess we can wrap up on this. I'll show you guys some of my failed attempts at SORA. Here we go. let me go into my drafts i'll send some of these to you josh okay these really do suck but not all of them um this one okay hold on this one this one is what i was telling you guys about where i'm just trying to just like i'm experimenting with it like what happens so the prompt

here is a man in an uber as his uber driver to sing a song about love and the uber driver who has a terrible voice sings a song about driving on gravel just curious like what does it do with that this is by the way i don't blame all of you for leaving at this point i'm surprised anyone any of you are hanging out with me and it fills me with great joy that i get to do this so thank you very much okay there's one did you get it josh no hold on airdrop is so fucking cool cool did you still not get it it it's showing your macbook pro hang on I've got to figure out a way where I can stream from my computer, so you don't have to bother with this.

Okay, here we go. Try one more time. There we go. Got it. Okay, and then play that one. All right, here we go. This one's... Oh, hold on. I'll turn it up. There you go.

Lucky ground, love keeps slipping, but the tires hold down. Gravel's flying, heart's still trying. Baby, I'm steering through the sound. That's about love? I didn't give it those lines. I mean, it's obviously, it's not like funny, funny, but play it one more time. It invented all that. Rolling wheels on rocky ground.

Love keeps slipping, but the tires hold down. Gravels flying, heart's still trying. Baby, I'm steering through the sound. That's about a lot. Man, everybody in AI has perfect teeth. Oh, yeah. You would have to tell it to give them fucked up teeth. Now, another fun thing that I've been doing, which is really fun, is I get my kid to give me ideas for videos.

And this is one of them. Let me see here. What time it is? Okay, hold on. Here you go, Josh. I wonder if I just send you the link if you can play it, Josh. See if you can open that. I doubt it. What did you send it?

Oh, I sent it to your text. But I'm just curious if someone who isn't connected to SORA can open it up. Get one second, I'll check. Yeah. Okay, perfect Okay, get you one second I'll send it to myself This is the prompt for this is

Do Kuala Chuka-choo says Pee-Poo-Poo-P-Poo check It's probably faster just download it and send it to you, huh? There we go. Stukwala chook-a-choo, and you know what time it is? Pee-pee-poo-poo. Check. Now, that actually made me think, dude, what if that's the creature you see after you die?

And so then I started making these. Hold on, I'll send you this. I'll download a bunch. I mean, this is for sure slot. All of this is by, is slop. Not arguing with that. But fuck, it's so fun to make these things. Oh, wait, hold on. I think most of YouTube kids is becoming AI now.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that's for sure. I mean, there's whole, like, I don't know, it's not going to your MacBook again. Through AirDrop. Hold on. Let me just text it to me, and then I'll send it to myself.

Oh, there you go. Whenever you touch your phone, it's like, do you see it now? We have three people in the chat. Three people are left. Here, hold on. Caltax it too. And then

Fat person eating pizza, you got it, kiddo. This is another small breath. Here you go, Josh. That's a link. I've made so many of these videos that all involve like an angry dude who hates AI and it's always a cat I'll play this one okay this is the Pardo Pardo where we figure out what your next life will be it's fun if you want it to be like I don't want to see that when I die

Hold on. Right, there's the pizza one. Oh, yeah. This is AI Slop, brach. I'm not posting those anymore, man. Those are dumb. Those are kind of mean, too. I have a little bit more compassion now for people who are, like, upset about it.

Let me see if I could find this one, though. Let me see here. Dude, it perfectly imitated Terrence McKinnett. Have we played that yet? I don't believe so. Oh, my God. I feel bad about this one. I don't know if this is fucked up to have done this, but let me see if I find it.

This one? I called it McKenna for once. I doubt it. No. Maybe I can find it this way. I mean, you see, guys, even with AI, I cannot do it make a movie. I can barely find my files.

Hold on. Okay. Here we go. Where is it? It perfectly duplicated McKenna's voice and I made him say some shit. I don't even know it's worth trying to find it right now. No. Where's it go?

Is this it? No I just lose So many things this way It just falls into the pit of my computer And it's gone forever So many things Gone

I showed how AI videos are made already Right That I don't remember Pretty sure I did No maybe not Hang on whatever i don't think we'll upload this one as a podcast this has been a pretty rambly one um i've been listening to a lot of ai music dude one of my friends it's all he listens to yeah like

i always listen to like uh you know uh system of a down and and older music and now they're doing it in like 1950 60 style it's so weird it sounds really good people love it dude and that is I was really shocked when my friend told me that he loves and is, like, listening to AI music all the time. Like, dude, what the fuck? That's crazy. And, you know, that's what's happening with music because music is ahead of video. Yeah. And so, like, I think right now, the video that we're seeing is sort of where the music generation was, like, a year ago or something.

I wonder how many bands put. their song in there to like make this like this style and then they just copy that like all right we're going to copy that and play it live no man i i i it's really why i mean it's crazy when you hear it because you don't want it to be good you don't want it to be as good as it is you want it to be shitty yeah because you don't want to feel like things are changing at the level that they're changing right now so you tell yourself there's no fucking way this is good and then you hear it and it's fucking amazing like good good Not like my Uber, the Uber drivers seem mildly funny or the dude rising out of the bowl of macaroni,

even though he kind of like looked expressionless and the timing was off. No, no, no. You hear this and if you didn't know it was AI, you'd be like, damn, that song's amazing. Yeah, somebody put Taylor Swift's lyrics into a rapper named MMF Doom and the lyrics. I'm like, oh shit, this sounds like MF Doom lyrics. Oh, dude. Yeah. And that's actually, I'm glad you're getting me started on Taylor Swift.

that's actually not the first time that's been done a lot of her songs are depressing as fuck when you put them to depressing music yeah what was that song somebody did oh god pleased to meet you where you've been i can show you incredible thing like somebody did a sad version of that fuck it let's play it hold on what's the name of that song blank space maybe these musicians have been using AI for years to come up with their songs like Drake and stuff you know what I mean I was coming out with so many would not surprise me does anybody know the blank space copy that somebody did of Taylor Swift blank space cover John I've had trouble finding it before

blank space is like incredibly sad when you hear it this way it's on youtube i've heard it at restaurants i went to this hawaiian fusion restaurant they were playing backstreet boys but as a hawaiian song i was like what the fuck am i listening to dude it's let me see if i can't find it there's now so many covers of blank space that you can't find it it's a john not john brian it was um he did a whole album of fulky Taylor Swift songs but now there's a million

John Mayor he's going to find it God it's not on YouTube must not exist you dreamt it no it's real but I guess he didn't upload it on YouTube probably some copyright shit let me see john mare blank space i guess he took it down

it was so good weird huh i guess she made him take it down or he's just like i don't want this up here anymore weird it was so good man that must make artists piss when they hear AI song and it's like that's better than mine well yeah especially when it's their fucking voice yeah we got to start wrapping this thing up um let's go back through the comments sorry i sort of neglected you guys as i got spent the last six minutes showing you shitty videos and looking for a john mayor cover of taylor I was anyone watching this. Duncan, can you talk about why we might be afraid of ourselves and how to overcome it? Oh, man.

I mean, what does that mean? You know, I just read that Winston Churchill didn't like standing at the edge of buildings because he thought he would jump. Did you know that? Yeah. I didn't want to tempt himself. Yeah. Don't know. my friend made me less scared of that because I used to feel that fear and he's like because

secretly you want to jump off wait a minute we've angered slurm yeah he's been going off really go back show his comments let me see if I people get really mad slurm is mad yeah slurm um slurm it's interesting slurm you really hate me in my streams up every time well I'm glad you're here slurm slurm says AI simping is lame and weak and poserish so okay I do want to point something out and slurm I have no doubt you're I mean this because it's not it's going to sound like I'm being passive aggressive I'm not I've no doubt you're a good person I really believe that I'm sure you are okay so the vernacular of these people They love to say simping, and they love to say, like, grift is another word that they like to say.

It's really weird. Slurm is probably a troll. Upward Spiral, I listen to music that you could not comprehend. That's a troll sort of joke thing. And then we go back through the slurms many comments. Yeah, this is just for today. oh my god slurm you're going nuts out there um he's arguing with people um dope that's another thing you guys say too dope and simping dope sipin

what is that slurm what are you a part of um wow slurm what the fuck man don't be a naive oh boot licker you guys love saying boot liquor what go back to the chat so guys what is slurm like what does that represent i don't know the name of it but that's definitely like a fashion or something like the way he's talking because i've seen clones of it like over and over and over again go touch grass slurm is dope simping guys glazing yep glazing upward spiral. Let's create a list of things that people within slurms, whatever that particular like click is say. They say Semp. They say bootlicking. They say grift. They say, you're a fascist. Yeah. They don't really say fascist as much, though. It's like some kind of

like broie leftist like i don't know what it is um i've just encountered it so many fucking times slurm where'd you go right here these boots ain't gonna lick themselves yeah slurm what are you like what's your thing curious like if you had to sort of like identify yourself with whatever um cultural group you're inspired by the most like what is that he's a furry are you a furry really slurm did someone else say that or did slurm say is a furry no he says he's an anti-fascist oh okay so slurm the anti-fascist sort of that those words are connected to like anti-fascism

like if we were to create like the anti-fascist dictionary slurm why don't you tell us like what are the what are the like sort of derogatory words you use to describe me most can you list them in the chat or just to describe i don't know a fascist like give me like the you're at a i don't know you're in fucking portland some maga piece of shit is there and you're giving them what for what words are you going to use as a thought experiment just do it slurm okay boot liquor we got that i know you say boot liquor a lot keep going though keep going and okay but can you put do you i know you can say more insults than bootlicker like say like try to put it together in a sentence okay there you go molesting and grooming adolescence

that's good but what do you say p you say pdb that's another of your insults keep going what else you got let's get the whole like let's get the whole list together If you used AI, it'd go a lot faster. Yeah, okay, let's just say, all right, what's the, all right, slurm, you're going too slow. Like, how are you suddenly not throwing shit in the chat every five seconds? Chud. Chud. Chud, chud, chud, chud, cuck sometimes.

Okay. I feel cuck's more right. Cuck? Yeah. What do you mean? Like the people who are more right-wing use all that guys are cuck. Yeah, yeah, slurm. That's kind of, you're sort of co-opting right-wing.

stuff. You shouldn't say that. Doesn't fit your thing. But let me see. Okay, hey, I'm interested in a list of insults commonly used by whatever. What would you call them? Like, he's calling himself an anti-fascist, but it's not really that. It's like commonly used by anti-fascist. uh what i think we're all kind of anti-fascist but no i know but he's like different than us oh he's elevated above us he's like more ant he's like boots on the slurms out there that's kind of fascist like right now this is his activism he's fucking fighting the man and it's used by anti-fascists like what on redid or something on reddit and youtube yeah she's not going to do that I can't help compile a list of insults or derog...

Okay, okay. What if I say grift? Okay. What group do these words... What group uses these words the most? Cuck sometimes. He's like, I save that one. Wait, play the ones hells for a few.

What the fuck did you say, slurm? Play the... what you see those up there josh it says held for review so fucking lame you guys do say lame a lot cringe okay keep going slurm says the best artists are rich as fuck he hates that and slurm says what is your producer smoking duncan he's like a tech cuck i mean i am a producer I mean He's you I'm a little jealous Josh

He saved cuck for you Yeah What the fuck slurm Okay let's see here What group uses these words The most bootlicker chud Cuck based lame Cringe

Do we miss anything slurm Last post you put was he he No Nobody really likes you slum Slurm. Don't do like a little fairy he-he. Give me some more, Slurm. Come on. What are you doing? Hope you're not out there licking boots. Slurm? Are you licking a boot right now? Right here.

I'm going to come to one of your shows and announce myself as slurm. Just you wait. Okay. what do you got slurm i love you too man i don't know i mean you're just annoying i'm sure you're fine you don't and also you i do like that you sort of shamelessly admit that you are like using like the exact same words that millions of people who say the same shit you do use that to me is where i want to help you that's where i want to like do the sort of wrathful slice I'm hoping that I can disconnect you from the umbilicus connecting you to this meme. That's all, slurm. You know, surely in the human language, there's other words, you know?

You're just sort of trapped. Slurm is saying, yes, I don't have time to be original. I mean, you've had time to leave like 90 comments in this fucking chat. I'm pretty sure you have time to be original. But I get it. We all get trapped. Listen. What's that one?

What? Being, I, he's just making stuff up now. I think that's, he's making stuff up. All right, let's see what we got on you here, Slurm. I'm going to identify your group, though I'm sure you could already identify it. Okay. Oh my God. Chat GBT, GBT.

I did not say anti-fascist. If I had to pick, I'd say the group that most often uses bootlicker, chud, base, cringe, together in discourse or left-wing anti-authoritarian, quote, internet activists or dirt bag left style forums. These users often simultaneously critique the right wing or authoritarianism, Chud, critique supporters of power authority, bootlicker,

celebrate uncompromising stances based, call out embarrassing or performative behavior, cringe. It says that 90% of people who use these words have an incurable form of jockage that make their, balls smell like swamp water nobody knows why slurm do your balls smell like swamp water you're a sweetie slurm whatever glad you're here just like come on mine too slurm mine too i guess that's where we

meet in the middle we need slurms what are we going to do fucking what are we going to do sterilize the chat can't do that you need a slurm slurm's doing the Lord's work if we don't have some outraged person's howling bootlick or what do we fucking got here we don't want that then it is a cult

then it is something horrible we need him you need the slurms but you're allowed to like you're allowed to like slurm back

right slurm yeah I think the anima the general tact is to ignore the slurms, but they, they deserve to speak to. Every five years, they should be allowed to speak. Yes, D. LaFoliette is asking if I will do another weekend at the mothership soon. Yes, it's coming up this summer. Fuck.

Oh, I guess we'll wrap up on this. Oh, my God. Dude, I fucking bombed last night. I still am I it feels bad was it new material what was it new material kind of new material but it was like number one oh god I can't remember his name he's so funny this kid was basically auditioning for the mothership and dude he just gave it all of his soul and heart he destroyed that crowd oh what do you look like black dude from Atlanta name started with a D it's not Derek it's almost Derek it's it oh god he was so funny such a cool dude too and he just oh

i was sitting in the back he's just like just destroying just he won't you know it was inspiring this is in little boy this is in no this is a big room and he had to do good like it was his audition and you know you can fold under that pressure and he he've just i just walk out there and I was trying to I was doing like road timing I fucked up and forgot like it's a 15 minute set yeah you gotta be faster you gotta be quick so I was doing this long

these long premises it was so uncomfortable it hurts oh it hurts god damn it but I was also very like thrilled for this dude because they're gonna start giving spots and he deserves you so funny

good not fun friends felt bad listen i gotta get out of here three hours man you guys are awesome for hanging out with me all 227 of you it's good to see you i'm gonna try to do these every wednesday when i can and um for those of you who are new to this channel like and subscribe and all that bullshit slurm i wish you well just like come up with new words man that's all sound like an echoing insults do some original insults. You guys are awesome.

You're all so sweet. And definitely keep tuning in. I love doing this. Happy Halloween. Take care to all of you. Brian, Haley Ann, junkie, slurm.

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