Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 723: Ain't No Turkey King
Episode Date: November 10, 2025Turkey is a scam! Heed not God's sunk-cost fallacy! Man was not meant to eat avian flesh! No good can come of eating a dinosaur. Florida family! Duncan is coming to Tampa! Come see him at Side Splitt...ers Comedy Club, November 21-22. Click here to get your tickets now. Don't miss this one! Duncan has accepted the Dark Gift, so these are some of his last shows of 2025! Thank you, and we love you!! This episode is brought to you by: Don’t wait — cross those names off your list before the rush. To get 15% off your next gift, go to UncommonGoods.com/DUNCAN! Uncommon Goods. We’re all out of the ordinary. Check out squarespace.com/DUNCAN for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, use OFFER CODE: DUNCAN to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Head to TrueClassic.com/DUNCAN to grab the perfect gift for everyone on your list! Amentara (formerly Minnesota Nice Ethnobotanicals) invites you to dive into this world of natural magic—head to Amentara.com/go/Duncan and use code DUNCAN22 for 22% off your first order!
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it's me de trucell and this is the duncan trussle family hour podcast now what i think you keep going
Oh my God, it's November, and, you know, everybody knows what November is.
November is the worst month, and for a lot of different reasons, primarily because Thanksgiving
is right around the corner, and the reason Thanksgiving sucks is because of Turkey.
Turkey is a scam, and when November comes around, we're all forced to confront something
that I think most of us don't really want to look square in the eye, which is that if turkey
is a scam, and I'll go into why it's a scam in a moment, how many other things have we been
tricked into doing and believing? Are we just pigeons in some kind of skinarian box being
trained to peck and poke away at things? Are we turkeys ourselves, eating ourselves,
and some kind of dark cannibalistic ritual which Thanksgiving represents, I mean, aside from like
the origins of Thanksgiving, which are insane, to the sort of forced gorging on, like, it's like
Turkey was the first iteration of the chicken. You know, you get better at things. And I imagine that God
didn't just like immediately make great things.
There were sort of precursors, and then the next thing came.
And so God was like, how do I make a delicious bird turkey?
It sucks.
Wasn't good.
Did not get the numbers God was looking for.
God got ratioed by the turkey.
Not a lot of faves.
A lot of people tried it, though.
And then you get this very,
sad effect maybe somebody in the check and help me remember what the effect is where you keep
doubling down on something you invest in something it didn't work but you keep investing in it
what's that fucking called insanity thank you josh it is a form of it's it's an actual form
of insanity sunk cost fallacy thank you bando sunk cost fallacy turkey is this is the
classic example of sunk cost fallacy because you only make it once a year and before i even go
into that let me just point something out we have burger king we've got windies we've got chick
fillet where's the turkey king where's the turkey one one fast food restaurant that's like we it's turkey
you've got what is it called the i don't even know if you have it anymore there used to be this
seafood restaurant fast food seafood fucked up that that even existed like captain rogers or something
was what it was called in the before times before the world ended you would go to these fucking
fast food you get everything's fried fried fish it was awful you get sick 100% of the time
obviously we have mexican restaurants you got taco bell god bless them
where is the turkey fast food is all i'm saying if it's so
good. If it's such a delicious meat, where is it? Why aren't we having turkey on
4th of July? Because it sucks. Turkey sucks. All the way across the board, whether you're
eating that sliced turkey, I don't care if you went, if you decided you were just going to be
fancy. And you actually went to the deli counter. Oh, you prince of sandwiches. And you
And you add them slice turkey for you.
Like you're some kind of fucking emperor.
And then you get your nice little bag of freshly sliced turkey.
And your poor brainwashed mind, you're thinking this will be good.
It's fresh deli turkey.
And it sucks.
Or you go and get the process shit.
It's like eating gel.
I don't even know what.
It's like eating softened, like,
edible play dough. It's horrible. And so I'm not looking at the chat right now because my guess
is I'm going to have to do a lot of bands because my guess is there's people in the chat
pushing back. And this is classic. This is classic. This isn't the first time I've brought
this up and it won't be the last. But there's people who will tell you, you see, no, no, no,
you just don't how to cook it right. Inevitably. You don't know how to cook.
turkey right now this is where the sunk cost fallacy comes in because we only do this insane
roasting of the fucking turkey once a year and because we only have like one chance to do it
each time you do it and it's not so great you think okay well i'm just learning but from that
perspective it's going to take you a decade to even get close to a place where you could say okay
this is not working. And so by then someone else offers to come in and help. You get the,
you get those turkey fascists who are like, no, no, no, I know how to do it. They come over to your
house early. They put their turkey in the oven. And, you know, I will say this just don't, so I don't
see them one-sided. I think it smells good. Cooking turkey smells good. There's something comfortable
about the smell of turkey. And I don't know if that's just some conditioning from early childhood or it actually
smells good. I have no idea. But there is something comforting about the smell of turkey filling up
the house, which is why you should get turkey incense and make stakes for Thanksgiving. Get one of those
turkey candles that they have. Burn it. Smells like turkey. But don't, don't fall for it this year,
guys. Don't fall for it this year. I feel like a lot is changing in the world right now for the
better you know and people are sort of collectively waking up and that's always a good thing we've got
zoran mondavi fucking holy shit now i got to say this when trump won i was doing some saltmining
because it's so fun to salt mine after like a political figure that is divisive gets
elected. And boy, man, the salt mining was good when Trump got elected. But, oh, if you
are a salt mine, if you're a true salt miner, you're bipartisan in your salt mining. You don't
just salt mine when the guy you agree with wins. You salt mine across the fucking board. And oh, my
friends, salt mining, it's so great right now. It's so great. I didn't expect the salt
mines to open up again. I mean, I knew he's going to get elected. And I knew that people,
on the right, we're going to shit their fucking pants.
But yeah!
It's incredible.
It's incredible, man.
It's the best.
People are legitimately horrified.
The socialist got elected in New York.
And I mean, like, horrified.
This is the end of times for them.
They think it's all over.
This, like, 30-something-year-old fucking kid gets elected.
that's just that alone is badass you know the toppling some aren't we sick of old crusts you know do
and like my my feeling when it comes to what might happen to new york is only because like i was in
la during the pandemic and i saw what happens uh i see where like my utopian leanings when you
try to make them happen in their real world, it doesn't seem to, it doesn't work.
At least that's, but that's just one experiment.
And this is, I know I'm getting off course, we'll get back into the darkness of Thanksgiving
a minute.
This is where I get patriotic.
You hear people say, America, it's like an experiment.
They call it the American experiment.
And I fucking love that somehow a 30,
something socialist, maybe communist, has taken the reins of New York City.
I want it to work. I don't think it will, but I want it to. I, to me, there will be nothing
more hilarious than if this kid turns New York into some kind of socialist utopia.
I don't see how that could ever happen. But wow.
it sucks you know
people
if you get stuck on one side
of the political spectrum or the other
you start wishing ill
you want you don't
you want the other side to fail
that's such that's so fucked up
like you're allowed to think
I have no idea how that's going to work
like you try to do the math in your head
like okay we're going to have
rent freezes
and
somehow some kind of government
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People, I'm saying, if it worked, for everybody.
Great.
You don't, you're not, like, you're not going to have to move your old fucking family
out of your New York apartment because the rent is shot up by $1,000 a month.
That's awesome.
Why is that bad?
If it works, it's great.
Free fucking food.
What does the money come from?
We're not getting to that part.
Oh, okay.
See, that's where it stops working.
Yeah.
Right there is the problem is where the money comes from.
But before we get to that part, the idea itself is good.
That's good.
I mean, I'm not saying the execution of the...
In other words, like, you know, I saw somebody on Reddit ask how big would your wings have to be to actually, if you were a person, like to lift the weight of an average human, how big would your wings need to be?
that's a good question like how to execute that I have no idea but I would love I didn't I was
caught up in 31 three eye atlas shit so I didn't like focus on that but the my point is
if we just turn our eyes towards that's good then maybe it becomes more of a possibility I
to like is an old fucking grump who lived in L.A.
during the pandemic and saw the whole fucking thing just collapse around me.
Love that city.
I've got, I've been sort of warped because of that experience,
meaning that I'm projecting that experience on all future attempts at some kind of socialist utopia.
And, uh, which could be considered like wisdom.
It's what you're supposed to do.
That being said, any time somebody gets a chance to try it again,
there is some possibility they get it to work now the obvious issues are how do we pay for it but
before we get to that he wants to give child care for everybody fuck yeah that's oh god that's great
i don't i don't know like living in new york without kids is a nightmare with kids
child care what the fuck great you know so now how do you how does he do it
that that's where we run into a little bit of a problem because if I put my mind into the mindset of somebody who is like making money from renting a building and this socialist comes in who says he's going to do a rent freeze you know what I'm doing this week if I'm like checking up the rent yeah so I don't know how quickly he's got to
to do that rent freeze like yesterday because i think what might happen now is all the rents are
going to go up in new york because people are going to be so afraid he's going to freeze the rent i could
be wrong about that or they could be selling the building what or sell the building to get out
yeah or selling the building so that's the first problem is it's like if you do a rent freeze
then you make it so that like people aren't going to make money like landlords aren't going to make money
Now, you know, one thing I do know about communism is they love,
communists love landlords.
They love them.
Carl Marx, I'll quote Carl Marx, I haven't memorized.
There is no more noble being than the landlord.
They keep our buildings painted and they will fix our plumbing issues.
And they deserve every penny they get.
I'm misquoting a little bit, but that's pretty much communist in the chat.
You know, that's what Karl Marx said.
So, I'm sure, like, I don't know if he's an actual communist, though.
I think he called him that because he said something about capitalism.
The capitalism was the problem.
Yeah, that seems a little weird.
He'd say that.
He'd say that.
That does seem a little off.
But, again, I'm not going to, what do I know?
You know?
the but the it's exciting man I think it's exciting you know people are waking up you know
the very least like what what does I think the reason like the right the right people get really
kind of like squirmie when somebody like Mondavi I don't want to say his fucking name wrong they
just did this great as an L sketch did you see that yeah everybody fucks up his name
was Shane Gillis and everybody fucks up his name but they fucking on the right they like do cheesy
up's of his name and it's so hacky and I'm not doing that I will you pull his name up it's a cool
fucking name too it's like I would name my it's like a name that I would name my uh Eldon ring
character Zoran mom Dani Zoran Mondami Donnie it's you know it's not an easy name to say mom
Donnie Zoron mom Damon Zorn mom dip shit Zorm mom Marxist um but
do I think it will work absolutely not I think you know what I love about any utopian vision is the person
behind it believes it I fucking love that and that's contagious you like see that and you're
like fuck I don't know what do I know I don't fucking know so it like catches you and the other
So people get really upset because what happens with people like that, the very least, the conversation of class comes up.
The conversation of, like, capitalism comes up.
The conversation of, is this how you want?
I mean, is this just the way it works as, like, human, like, you're just people who lose this bizarre game of Fortnite are going to be on the streets.
Is that good?
Is that okay?
Are you okay with that?
Do you really believe all of them deserve it?
And even if they do deserve it,
is that the correct punishment
for making a series of shitty decisions in your life?
And so the conversation emerges.
That's a good conversation.
We should be having that conversation, definitely.
But then the other problem where it backfires usually
is the attempt to implement the damn thing
results in like chaos.
And you need a lot of time.
And it would have to happen slowly, you know, slow, slow, slow.
But this, you can't just come in guns blaze and say you're going to freeze the fucking rent and socialize everything.
Because then all the people who want to hold onto their money and don't want to get taxed, they either put it in tax shelters or they fucking bail.
And so then you're left with like, who do you, what do you do then?
because then all of a sudden the people that were supposed to benefit from these programs actually end up not benefiting because they're the ones who are going to have to pay for it and that's I think the problem but I don't know maybe who knows all I'm saying is don't go fucking partisan man it's not you're number one if you go partisan you can't enjoy salt mining you can't you don't get a it's like plants you know what I mean like if they could figure out how to
get photosynthetic energy from the moon, dude, that's going to be a successful fern.
But if you're a salt miner and you don't figure out how to enjoy salt mining in a bipartisan
way, then dude, you're you're missing the fuck out because it's always hilarious to go down
into those mines. And look at what people are saying. It's so fun. But as I was saying before,
people are waking up and um you know what we should play josh play that mandami
mondani play his speech i haven't watched it yet
honestly if you don't live in new york who gives a fuck anyway
it sucks it's kind of like new york at this point turns into this like
it's a petri it's an experiment let's take a look at this guy
Play it. Zoran Mondagamah Duma.
Morons and do me.
Morons on Dumi.
Brave new course.
Rather than fleeing from it,
we can respond to oligarchy and authoritarianism
with the strength it fears, not the appeasement it craves.
Can you pause it for a second?
I think he was in theater.
Oh.
Because he's doing.
He's doing, like, if a theater kid projecting to the back of the room, like, you know what I mean?
That's theater.
Like, he might be a theater kid.
Another thing I like about him, hit play.
After all, if anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump how to defeat him, it is the city that gave rise to him.
And if there's a city that gave rise to him.
is any way to terrify a despot, it is by dismantling the very conditions that allowed him
to accumulate power.
Ooh.
This is not only how we stop Trump, it's how we stop the next one.
Oh yeah.
So Donald Trump, since I know you're watching.
I know this part.
I have four words for you.
Turn up the volume up!
Can you pause?
What does that mean?
Um, I don't know.
I have no idea.
Hold on, let's go back to the chat real quick.
I'm sorry, guys.
This is where I illuminate.
What a true dip shit I am?
What does that mean?
Stacey says, listen.
It means listen.
Is it a chat?
Because I was thinking it was kind of a kind of cleft.
jab at like an old man watching
TV. That's how
dumb I am. I thought he was an age
thing. Like
turn your miracle
ear up, you old fuck.
Oh, he's saying
listen to this shit. Okay, go back and play the
thing. I think that was the end of it.
That was it?
Oh, no, he says more.
Man, that's got to feel good.
Think he'll run for president?
Of course.
We will hold bad landlords to account
because the Donald Trumps of our city
have grown far too comfortable
taking advantage of their tenants.
Can you pause that for a second?
I think this is where I disagree with him
because, you know, and this is where I think
he's not a communist, because like I said,
before, let's go into the chat, guys. If you love your landlord, if you love your landlord,
type Satan in the chat. Because who doesn't love their fucking landlord? Like, I, it's like
your best friend. They help you. They care about you. Adam Dev loves his landlord. Who else?
Just put Satan in the chat. Yeah, I, Mike. I'm giving mine a Christian
present this year that's so sweet yeah that's a good idea they need because they need that people
see you guys I don't think you understand like uh it's not an easy job you have to
open the envelopes you know if you're doing it that way and I you know I think a good landlord
that's maybe he's taught you know what I think he's talking about with bad landlord is the ones
who don't even open the envelopes with the checks in it the people you know what I mean
so you don't have that connection with your tenants.
I open mine.
My tenant's checks.
I open them.
You know, I, I, I, smell.
Smell them, get the smell of,
and you could tell a lot by if they're breaking rules.
Oh, yeah.
By the smell of the envelope.
And, you know, if I smell a marijuana,
okay, go ahead and play it again.
Kind of has that Mark Rubio here.
Yeah, I was trying to figure out.
what do you look what reminds me of is it real quick is this a thing now where uh because i remember
politicians not really having beards and now they're like jd vans and him mustache it's not
well yeah but he has the shadow yeah it's a thing now it's a thing does that mean we're going
more into like harder times is that like no it means they watch my podcast oh okay they're imitating
we will put an end to the culture of corruption that has allowed billionaires like trump
to evade taxation and exploit tax breaks.
How?
We will stand alongside unions and expand labor protections because we know
just as Donald Trump does
that when working people have ironclad rights,
the bosses who seek to extort them become very small indeed.
Shit.
Okay, that's enough.
Press part.
Damn.
Damn.
There's another reason that I get, like, these are the things I love about the United States.
Like, this happens, like, just out of the blue, some fiery fucking, like, leader dude just appears.
And it's so cool.
I mean, whether or not you agree with this stuff, like, this is a problem, man.
I mean, I know everything I'm saying is just so cliche.
But it's like, people have lost the.
ability to like appreciate people like it's like you okay so you don't agree with socialism whatever
but you got to admit that's wow you can feel that you feel it right josh you can feel that
i like the way he talks his statements and yells it makes me feel something inside he's alive yeah
you know that that's like the zeitgeist you know like he's representing like i it's it's not
Okay. So like, let's take like what Gavin Newsom's doing, right? He's going like, I'm just going to do exactly what Trump does in reverse. So like he's the trolling stuff and all that stuff. Right. And it just none of it. It's just not hitting. It's not hitting. But this dude, that's real. Like whatever the fuck that is is real. And that's what people want. And so yeah, it's going to legitimize a lot of things. Because like when people are.
bitching about like woke they're not really they're what they're bitching about is this the sanctimony
the condescension that's not that's not what that is that's just like fuck this shit this is the
start the way maga kind of pushed the right away like all right we're gonna take over and
maga took over yeah right this is the left side going all right you guys young doing it move
over it could be it could be yeah and and you know once you start hitting those the places he's
sitting it's like yeah that's like who the fuck is going to disagree with any of that stuff the
problem is it's all beautiful until you like walk into the layer of the beast and then it's just
you realize you know probably i mean this is where i'm you know one of the most mortifying moments
of my life was like when went to see pink floyd
with
Joe
Ari
Tony
somehow we all
ended up hanging out
with Roger Waters
in a hotel
and
he was just eating all of us alive
he's such a genius
and like
he was just
he seemed to like really like
being around comics
but he's also like
a wizard
and like crabby
but he liked it
and so every single one of us
he was roasting
and when it was my
and he's like, you're a defeatist, mate.
Because I was just saying, like, I don't understand,
I don't see the path forward in a utopian way.
And it hurt.
He's kind of right.
So I'm, I don't think it was a completely inaccurate.
I don't want to be a defeatist.
But I do like the vibe.
I just, I don't, it's going to be sad to watch.
I just hope it works.
Why do you call you a deaf fetus?
What?
Why do you call you a defeatist?
Oh.
I'd just been sucking on his feet.
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Stacey Chan, that's a good comment.
Things need shook.
He shook him.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Things need shook.
And, yeah, it's cool.
I think it's exciting.
And also, like, an indication, this gets me back to my original point.
People are waking up.
People are beginning to risk.
that, number one, just because we've done things a certain way, doesn't mean that we have to
keep doing them that way. People have begun to realize that the stories we tell ourselves about
the world are what creates the world. We wag the dog. People are starting to understand the
fundamentals of all magical systems. Globally, consciousness is going from the full tarot card to the
magician tarot card which is quite exciting we were all the fucking hobo on the hill wearing fancy
clothes with the stick and the dog went right off the cliff now we're going into the magician
phase is probably what's happening and that means that we're waking up we're beginning to realize
we don't have to live a chaotic life looking up at the sky we can balance the elements and that's
when you become a magician. And so even before we get into some half-wit discussion on capitalism,
socialism, oligarchs, and classism, let's talk about Turkey. Let's talk about the fact that Turkey
not only is a scam food, it sucks, that Turkey sort of dilutes the reality.
that prior
to people coming to North America
it was
filled with people.
It wasn't like
North America was empty.
If you grew up, especially when I was a kid,
that's basically it was just forests
and, you know, here and there
some Indians,
many of which were like,
you know, they didn't
say it in our history books,
but, you know, we're
they were human but not the way
like Europeans were human
so Thanksgiving is sort of like
yeah we've like we worked it out
with them we became
friends and they gave us
they gave us food
and turkey
and that's what we eat now
turkey and we give thanks
and so the whole stupid
like fucking Halloween man
you know what I mean
aka gay Christmas
that's a good holiday it's an occult holiday it's witchy it points to the changing of the seasons it has its roots
and a lot of great secret traditions and you get to salt mine on Halloween if you feel like i've actually
i didn't do it this Halloween but you get to find like the fundamentalist christians rejection of
Halloween which is so funny Halloween's a great holiday Christmas great fuck
holiday man another wonderful pagan holiday it's like amnita muscaria hung on the trees the ancient druids
used to do it you can go full wodenite during christmas or if you want to lean into your christianity
you can make it a christian thing or if you want to go like obvious like just just found out about
marketing and how we're all brainwashed idiots you could just be like what the fuck is this it's just
another way to get people to buy shit to like pump the economy up before the next year you could
pick any of these and mix it all together Easter oh my god like my favorite of all occult
holidays ishtar you know the egg is the the the symbolism of the egg I think of Hesse
demon to be born a bird must first destroy a world just one of my favorite fucking lines
from her mom so cool then the Easter bunny's hilarious like how it's what trying to like work
that out with your kids how how it even works so fun coming up like do you just well do you say
shit's eggs like you know or do you hope they don't get into like the details like where do the
eggs come from the painting of the eggs the symbolism the death rebirth beautiful fourth of july
you know it's fun when you have kids but i don't know fireworks are okay but i don't know never
it's it's still better than thanks you know you get fucking thanksgiving just this like
cat turd of a fucking holiday just i mean i call it fan
family week or some any other name just also the term thanksgiving i hate it enforced
thanks is not thanks at all if you're going to make me like have some kind of national thing where
i i feel thankful i'm sorry that's not going to fucking work man like i'm like you like i have to do
like serious micro doses of mushrooms over a period of like weeks to just to just like just like
feel normal or feel gratitude to smell it brings my smile back but you're not gonna i'm not just because
there's fucking turkey i'm not going to be suddenly more thankful you know i do thank people i don't want
to seem like i'm not thankful i do i think i think i like to thank but what do they call it
football family turkey day whatever just take the turkey out call it football family day call it football day
call it. I don't care what fucking just chill out day, relax. How about relax day? I don't know.
Well, you know what helps you relax? Turkey. Don't say it. It makes you fall asleep.
You know what else helps you fucking relax? Indica. Great indica weed, melatonin, chamomile tea.
I don't need, I don't need bird flesh to help me relax. And if you're eating bird flesh to chill out, you've got to go to CVS.
people are waking up and I think the first step and I'm sure that
Mondervish over there would agree with me
we have to
this year renounce turkeys
don't do it
fried turkeys too
oh oh I'm sure
fried turkeys
why don't you just get drones
to fly into people's backyards and spraying with acid
instead of encouraging people to do that
because every fucking year
people see a TikTok
with someone frying a turkey
it looks fun and then
they're permanently disfigured
the turkeys blow the fuck up
they get they burn their fucking faces
that like this is
yeah no
no fried turkey I'm sure it's delicious
but everything fried is good
you could fry a cat turd it's probably good
it's too chewy in the middle
you don't know how to fry cat turrets
not like my grandmother did
that's what people say
and this is the sweet part
it's like you're connected to your family
and so you've
paired turkey
with you love your grandmother
yes that's all it is
you love your grandmother
call it love our grandmother
day
but your grandmother would slave
over that turkey you loved your grandmother
and now when you eat turkey
you remember your grandmother this is the
fucking big turkey hijacked our
love of our grandmothers to sell shitty bird meat.
And this is why we have to join Zoron Mondami in his push towards equity in the world by
speaking truth to power, which I'm doing right now.
I have no doubt that some contingent of the internet will take this and warp it and
turn it into something.
It's not.
That's fine.
You go ahead and fucking do that.
Turkey sucks.
And if you like turkey, you're a fascist.
You know who love turkey?
Hitler.
Hitler love turkey.
He loved turkey.
Do you know what the original mind comp started off with, the first page?
Gobble, gobble.
Turkey recipe.
Did you know that?
Is it good?
What?
The turkey recipe, is it good?
I'm not eating Nazi fucking turkey like you, Josh.
Oh, well, I were here.
Hugo boss sometimes, too.
Doesn't mean I'm a Nazi?
Yeah, it does.
Oh.
The main thing is this.
Bottom line, if you like turkey, you're a fascist, Nazi piece of shit.
And you don't care about marginalized people, and you are a boot liquor, simp.
So, no more turkey for you or for me.
This year, we're not going to do turkey.
Like ham?
What?
Ham?
Do you do like a big ham?
No, let me do that at.
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feastivals. Now, let's jump, let's dump into this thing now. Man, I never thought about that.
The Thanksgiving always depends on who you spend it with. Yeah, I mean, this is the whole trick of all
like evil people is they, like the way you get manipulated is it's pairing. So anytime you
you see like a brand that is attached to a social movement, all they're doing is trying to
like connect their brand to your feeling of, I want to be part of the social movement.
It's one of the most evil things you could do.
This is the neurolinguistic programming people do this shit where they'll like get you
to start talking about the best day of your life while doing some ambient something.
And then when they do that ambient something, your poor stupid brain starts feeling good.
And now they're like marionetteing what makes you feel good.
And they start fucking controlling you.
So this is, that's all that is.
Like, there's a few things that matter in the world.
You know, it's your family.
It's your, it's your health, things like that.
It's unquantifiable things.
You can't place value on it because it's, there is no quantification of like,
you're, like, the connection with your parents or your brothers or sisters or kids or friends
or you can't quantify that.
If they could, they would have done it by now.
They definitely would have done it by now.
If there's a way to quantify that shit and you tax it,
they would have figured out a way to tax it.
They can't.
You can't quantify it,
but you can make the taste buds believe that that's not,
oh, this is love for my family.
Well, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, you're just, you don't know.
You're just having fun.
You're eating some shitty meat.
It's not good.
Turkey sucks.
I mean, bottom line,
turkey sucks were you force-fed turkey as a child what were you force-fed turkey as a child no okay
no i wasn't forced-fed i mean not in the not like a foie gras yeah duck i wasn't like they didn't
put a bastar in my mouth and stuff like that but yeah like my grandmother if we didn't like eat
all the turkey she would like yakuza her finger oh only happened once yeah it sucked
using the turkey cutting knife she was just
she's in front of all of us because like the turkey was dry
and she just like it was crying and then just before anyone could do anything just snap
tip of her finger and then she was like holding it over her next finger and looking at us
and everyone ate that fucking turkey and then after that we ate the turkey so no
the um hey leanne wants to know what about pheasant
Yeah
Haley Ann, that's going to be a one minute
That's a bit self-band one minute
That you would ask me
You know my thoughts on pheasant
So yeah, I'm not going to
No trolling guys
No trolling
Don't ever bring up pheasant in the chat
So it was like Turdukin
The Trinity of Evil
Turducken is
It's the Trinity of Evil is going to be
Turduckin
The term surf and turf
in turkey there is there is no less appetizing term than surf and turf it's disgusting it's like it means
you're going to get steak and shrimp or something but turf it's gross it feels like you know you found
like a a meatball on a golf course like it's disgusting serve and turf is awful okay now let's
into the core of this episode of the DTFH.
One second here.
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to read this because it's, I'm trying to get a little
more organized here.
So, because I don't have it, just imagine like some creepy music playing.
It is screamsgiving on the DTFH, and today we are going to be talking about three horrific things that happened on Thanksgiving.
A terrible event at a family, a horrible carnival accident, and I can't remember the third one, but it's fucked up.
I've gathered these from across the inner webs. My apologies in advance.
is associated with any of these incidents that could be listening to my podcast. I'm sorry if
it seems like I am using your tragedy for entertainment, which I am, but I'm doing it for
entertainment. The Tilt a Whirl incident on Thanksgiving night, 1997, a teenage ride operator
in a tiny Indiana town hit start on the Tilta Whirl for one last
spent. Ten minutes later, the carnival was silent. No laughter, no music, just sirens.
What investigators found in that parking lot ended the fair forever and exposed a secret
that had been turning long before that Tilta Whirl ever broke. Fairview, Indiana.
Four thousand people, one traffic light, just your typical town. Walmart doubled as a social
Hub kids go there and hang out.
Every Thanksgiving weekend, the lot behind it transformed into the turkey
Jubilee Carnival.
Just some rides, fried food, comforting illusion that nothing bad could ever happen here.
I'm sure we've all been to the county fair.
I used to love it as a kid.
I could remember going with my brother and getting back home, and we both were
like fighting over the toilet to throw up because we had eaten carnival hot dogs and
gone on like carnival rides and we were not only food poisoned but sick, had motion sickness
and we puked all over each other. I'll never forget it. We were like in the bathroom and
you know how it is with puking and yawning are actually quite similar. If you yawn in front
of a person, that person will yawn. If you puke in front of a person, there's a contagious element
to it. And the reason is theoretically because if you were living in a tribe or, you know,
living in ancient times and like you ate poison the odds are other people had eaten that too
and so that's what we can trigger puke in other people by puking ourselves you know this is like
this is one of this had to be like outlawed in soccer games because it used to be that soccer players
would intentionally vomit in front of the goalie making him vomit and like then someone would
shoot and win you can't do that anymore they used to do that if you look at the
old games in the 70s.
17-year-old Caleb Mercer ran the Tilta World.
He was quiet, responsible.
The kind of kid everybody said would go somewhere.
His girlfriend, Jess Bennett, worked the snow cone stand, and they were the couple people
rooted for until Denise Dorsey showed up.
Denise was the carnival owner's wife, 20 years older, sharp tongue, always smelling faintly
of perfume and deep.
diesel dust. She ran the ticket booth, but spent more and more time helping Caleb with
maintenance. Pretty soon, you know, it's a small town. People, like, know everybody and what's going
on, and they did start noticing that Caleb seemed to be spending a lot of time with Denise. People
would see them out at the diner talking. Apparently, somebody saw her, like, you know,
giving him a massage at the carnival and apparently somebody reported that they both went into
the haunted house together and when they came out the other side it the description that I found
online was it looked like somebody had sprayed mayonnaise all over her lips.
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Caleb swore it was innocent.
Related to the mayonnaise incident,
Caleb told Jess that she had been showing him
one of the new ways they were going to scare people,
which was by spraying ketchup like blood.
They ended up not.
doing that, but she grabbed the wrong bottle. It was like mayonnaise and sprayed it on her own face.
And so that's what that was. But Jess didn't believe him. The morning of Thanksgiving, a worker
overheard them arguing behind the funnel cake trailer. Jess was crying. Caleb kept saying,
it's not what you think. It's not what you think. I'm telling you, you can go in the fun house
yourself and you could see there's a like a hidden room that's got mayonnaise ketchup mustard in it i
don't know why she didn't just have ketchup she's an idiot um by 845 p.m okay this this so cut to
thanksgiving night by 845 p.m the fairground was almost empty cold wind lights flickering paper cups
rolling across the asphalt.
Jess and her best friend Amber Lane showed up one last time, laughing,
sharing a slice of pumpkin pie and a plastic container.
They asked Caleb for one final ride.
He hesitated.
The Tiltoworld had been making a deep metallic groan for days.
He told Harlan Dorsey, Denise's husband and the carnival boss,
Mack just grinned and said,
Add more grease kid.
So, you know, anybody who's been in high school, your girlfriend shows up with her girlfriend.
You've got a little bit of power, which is you can maybe run a carnival ride when it's closed.
It's kind of a flex.
And so he wanted to show off.
Now, this is where it gets a little, like, makes you wonder by him a little bit.
Because apparently he, like, said, I will let, I will do the ride for you guys, but you have to make out in front of me.
so you know they did they made out in front of him and he's like all right we could do the ride
kind of a creep kind of girls gone wild shit there um
he strapped them into car three double check the latch and pulled the lever the music started
the ride spun at first everything looked fine then car three began to rattle hard
This is fucked up. I would not advise looking at the crime scene pictures from this. I did. I'm not going to describe them. Caleb hit the break. Nothing. He hit it again. Still spinning. Max shouted something from across the lot. Before Caleb could hear it, there was a sharp, hollow snap. The tilta world jolted sideways and screamed to a stop. When the dust cleared, emergency crews were already on their way. What they found,
would shut down the turkey jubilee forever.
Inspectors later determined that the main axle of the tilt-a-whirl had cracked years earlier.
Instead of replacing it, Mack had patched it with improvised materials he had lying around,
and off-the-books repair meant to save a few hundred dollars.
And especially, like, you know, when this happened, like, I'm sure there's more regulations now for carnivals.
But when this fucking happened, it was like every time a carnival showed up,
somebody would get fucked up uh and you know carnies are just like meth hats a lot of them yeah
yeah so um the pat keelb was cleared of wrongdoing but he never forgave himself he left fair
view the next spring spring changed his name and disappeared now listen to this let me see
You don't find the description of this.
One second.
The Fairview police arrive within minutes.
Paramedics, inspectors, everyone.
Where's the part?
The description is so fucked up if I could find it.
Basically, they were turned into gravy,
is what is the description of what was last.
of his girlfriend and her friend like something about the ride went so fast it
completely liquefied their internal organs liquefied their bones like they're
apparently like it looked the description is it looked like someone deflated blow-up
dolls that had been filled with blood like it was just they were like completely
deflated and like that weed commercial which is like this is all she does now she's
laying on the couch.
Yeah. That
I didn't even
add that to my notes here, but that
weed commercial was inspired
by this incident. Oh shit.
Isn't that crazy? You can find
inspiration anywhere, guys. That's alchemy.
Like, you could take the
pulpified, like, just smashed
bodies of two teen girls
destroyed in a
tilt-a-whirl and turned that into like an
incredibly inspirational
anti-marijuana commercial.
So it's always out there.
never think that, you know, a lot of people, they talk about the muse or they don't feel
inspired. Look, there's inspiration everywhere. Anything can be made into art.
Okay. Caleb was cleared of wrongdoing, but never forgave himself. He left Fairview the
next spring, changed his name, and disappeared. Mack was charged with criminal negligence
and served less than two years. When he got to...
out, he vanished too.
Denise sold the remaining
carnival equipment at auction and left
town with a man who, according to county records,
shared Caleb's
new last name.
Hmm.
Fucking weird. People in Fairview didn't miss the carnival, but they never
stopped talking about it, about the rumors,
the affair, and the idea that maybe
that night wasn't just an accident.
So that's where it gets really fucking weird.
Like, was this
intentional
because he wanted to, like,
literally cream his girlfriend.
It just seems like, why not just break up with her?
You don't have to, like, do a whole carnival accident
to kill your girlfriend.
So that's story number one.
Oh, they sell turkey legs there too.
That's where you find turkey.
What?
Carnivals. Carnival sell turkey legs.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, carnivals sell them.
Fucking Disney sells it.
It's so gross.
gross it's gross it's bad for you too they say it causes causes Alzheimer's story two okay this happened
in marquette michigan in 2008 thanksgiving morning the klein family was behind schedule their oldest son
nathan was supposed to pick up the turkey from his boss randy tull who owned a butcher shop downtown
nathan drove over just after sunrise the lights were on the front door was unlocked but the counter
was empty and the back room was freezing cold. Literally in the walk-in freezer, he found a single
latex glove frozen to the floor. Police assumed Randy had suffered an accident while working alone,
but nothing inside the machines matched that theory. The grinders were spotless, bleached like
they'd just been cleaned, the smell of bleach in the air. A week later, hunters found a steel
drum burned out in the woods. Inside were fragments of bone and plastic wrap. DNA testing confirmed
it was Randy. The mix of organic and synthetic materials led investigators to a disturbing
conclusion. Someone had disposed of him by grinding and packaging his remains using the same
equipment he used on livestock. Police traced it back to Dean Klein, Nathan's father, a former
employee, Randy had fired for stealing meat.
When confronted, Dean didn't deny it.
He said, everybody wanted a piece of him.
I just made sure they got one.
It's so messed up.
He said that in the interrogation.
Of the 20 turkeys, Randy had prepared that morning, 12 were never recovered.
12, meaning, like, theoretically, some, like, people fucking ate this dude.
another reason to not eat turkey
and especially not eat processed turkey
can turkey because this is
you'll never hear about this but it's like
you know
a lot
you know a lot of people working in some of these
meat processing processing facilities
they are not
they're you know immigrants
they come over here to work they go back
and they don't have the same protections
people have and like these people
fall like suppose
I don't know if this is true or not, but supposedly it's in some rotten meat processing facilities.
If they know that they have to pay somebody, like someone's worked a bunch of overtime, an accident will happen.
They'll just push them in the grinder, you know?
Because when they clean, I don't know if you guys knew this or not, when they clean meat processing facilities, the workers have to do it in the nude.
Did you know that?
Yeah, so they don't steal.
No.
No, just because something about the machines is,
very like the you it's they're sharpened blades basically and so if you go in there with like
work clothes on you can dent or like get your belt stuck on the blades so they will you have to
take your clothes off cover yourself in a gel so that you don't get cut from the blades and then
you go in there and just clean it and supposedly sometimes workers go down and they're
completely naked and they just pop on the machine grind them up put them in the dog food so this is
another reason not to eat turkey or dog food and there's barely a different
all right here's the third and final story uh thanksgiving story i've got 17 of these actually but
these are my favorite ones i really went down a dark rabbit hole here story three this happened in
humble county california 2014 what's up to my weed tremors the rasmusans out of thanksgiving
tradition they called the family game everyone would write a secret about another family member
drop it into a bowl and they take turns guessing who it was about now that's a fucked up game
have you ever played the family a game with your family do you play game yeah uh we played
this game called chalupa and it was a thing like where you it was like kind of like bingo and
you put it beans on the on the thing and it'd be like la sirena and then it was the the mermaid and
they just pick cards like that it was a Mexican thing what what it's called
Chalupa but what do you mean the mermaid oh they had different cards and one was
called La Sirena and it's a mermaid oh I see if you have it you put the bean on top of
the mermaid oh okay yeah okay fun so you've played family games yes you know I used to
play Monopoly with my brother and my dad that was horrible that would devolve into just like
almost like fratricide or patricide or all like it was we would start off like just having fun and by
the end of it you've turned into a demon now here's a little trivia fact that you might not know
about monopoly monopoly is actually a it's satirizing capitalism did you know that no a lot of people
don't know that it's like an monopoly is supposed to be an anti-capitalist game to show you how
fucked up it is the system and if you've ever gotten in a long game of monopoly have you ever played
monopoly or you get mean by the end where people get heated i made my kids cry it was fun dude exactly
it does have this dark like you know you fuck with a Ouija board and things get creepy you play
monopoly by the end of it you have turned into a fucking piece of shit oligarch if you're winning
you're making garbage deals with people you're laughing out of
desperate they are it's so fun and you get to make up the rules if you're winning you start to get
to make up rules oh yeah oh yeah we would hide money that was another way like we i don't even know
if we were playing by the real rules but you would like take money and put it away so people
would think you were more broke than you were and get false hope tax shelters you know like
you it was awful and then at the end of the game we had uh we called it the dollar of shame and you
would write on the dollar anything you wanted so if my dad won he would write like i am the greatest
father and most intelligent man that ever lived and we would have to sign it like it was true and so
it's just filled with like these it's such it was so filled up too with just just passive aggressive
shit anyway this game just sounds fucked up the secret game like dude would you do that
with your family?
The secret game?
Well, in this game, you sit around with your family
and you write down secrets
about other people in your family
and put it in the bowl.
If I'm drunk.
You would do that with your family drunk.
Yeah.
But, dude, I don't, like,
it just seems like, depending on your family,
it can lead to, like...
Divorce, yeah.
All kinds of fucked up things.
Anyway, let's keep going here.
To me, that's the most horrifying part of the story.
It started as a joke, but that year someone slipped in a note that read,
I know who killed Uncle Carl.
Five years earlier, Carl had supposedly died in a car crash after leaving that same dinner.
His car went off a cliff near Arcata.
Case closed, so they thought.
When the note came out, laughter stopped.
Carl's sister Rita accused her brother, Paul, of planting it.
Paul swore it wasn't him.
He even joked, why don't we just ask Carl?
And Rita said quietly, you know we can't.
You buried him.
The room froze.
Police later confirmed that Carl had died during an argument that night years before.
An accident covered up by the family, they'd staged the crash.
Several relatives confessed, each claiming they thought someone else is going to call the police.
The strange part, the note was typed.
No fingerprints, no traceable ink.
No one in the family ever admitted writing it.
That's so weird.
Some think a guilty conscience finally cracked.
Others think that someone outside the family knew the truth all along.
Three stories, three thanksgivings, and three reminders that sometimes the danger isn't out there in the world.
It's right beside the people.
you trust the most.
So this year, when you set down to dinner, give thanks,
not just for the people at the table,
but for the secrets that haven't made the front page about you.
And then imagine music fading out.
Wow, thanks for all the likes, you guys.
fucking great. Let's pause for a moment and do super chats. Any super chats in there?
Damn, y'all. Thank you so much.
Still no NASA gym tapes. Omega phase. Hmm. Don't know what you're talking about there,
but thank you so much for the donation. M.F. Damien. Join a bit late. Sorry if the topic
has moved on a while back at this point.
I, for one, am very curious to see how the Zoron-Marmaduke experiment plays at.
Me, too. I hope it works.
Maybe it'll work this time.
I don't know.
Maybe it'll fucking work.
I don't see how.
Not in a million years, how it works at all.
And also, I saw something that, like, the mayor doesn't have even the power to do most of what he wants to do.
Did you read that?
No, unless he takes the power.
From who?
Who? I don't know.
He has to become the governor.
I think if he became the governor, he could do it.
But, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't know how he's going to do it.
Usually what happens is if, like you say, okay, we're going to taxing people who make a million dollars a year, an insane amount.
That's poor in New York.
Yeah, weirdly it is, which is, you know, why.
you got elected because that should not be bore anywhere so but usually what happens is whatever the
number is or the person you're going to tax the most they leave why would you stay you know they love it so
much but usually they could just move somewhere else a kutuck business outside the city and then so now
you have population decline and you know the other thing that happens because the utopian vision any
hippie has had is like man do we really need so many police then or like are you really going to send a kid
to jail for like stealing gum or whatever you know the fantasy is and so then suddenly you
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Oh, it didn't?
Mm-mm. I don't think so. No.
I thought it didn't. No.
Unless I'm completely mistaken.
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no fails yeah 20% property tax increase so
and you know if like it's easy to think like well I don't own a house so it gives a fuck but it's like well yeah you don't own a house but whoever owns whatever you're renting is going to increase your rent and this was weirdly a bipartisan thing it wasn't like a left right thing people on both sides are so sick of like what apparently is like mismanagement of funds in Austin and this was going to um this 20% tax increase was not even like
it was kind of like vague what they were going to do with it and so it got it got shut down because
you know you have to like actually if you're going to like have tax like a shit ton of taxes
that needs to show up around people and when there's a lot of taxing happening but nothing
is improved the streets are still fucked up you don't feel safe like things are catching on
fire because of like encampments and shit then people start bailing there's can't force people to
stay and then when people leave you have less people to tax the housing market gets fucked up then
this leads to a potential sort of death spiral you know that's where if you're going to like
try to correct classism but you only have limited power to do it in a short time period how the
fuck do you do it you can't make people stay in new york and you're not going to like
keep people from like putting their money overseas and shit isn't that's what a lot of people
do is they there's all these tricks you could just shell companies shell companies in the
maldives or whatever people do that like they get away with it there's a whole like if you look
up the number of isn't it the maldives is where they do it i always thought it was switzerland it's all
it's everywhere where to rich people hide their money glad that's not my fucking offshore accounts and
trust in tax havens for privacy and tax reduction or a private vault.
Oh yeah. People can put it. That's it. The Cayman Islands, not the Maldives. Not the Maldives.
Wealthy individuals open accounts in countries with lower no taxes such as the Cayman Islands,
Luxembourg, Bermuda, Panama, Switzerland to reduce tax liability. They use legal structures like
corporations or trust to hold their wealth, shielding their name from ownership and making
difficult to trace their assets. This separation is also used for vaults, making it harder for
lawsuits or divorce proceedings to access assets private banking they use private banking services so yeah like
once you get to it's kind of like when you get to the place where you could do private planes
no one's checking your bags for drugs you just throw your bag on the fucking plane you could throw you
your bag could be just filled with cocaine just toss it in the fucking plane you land just throw
it that your car is sitting in front of the plane so it's like it's
weird because on one side of the socioeconomic spectrum, if you're super rich, you don't follow the
same rules. You don't have to pay. There's ways out of paying taxes. There's ways out of like,
and then if you're like dead broke and they can't take anything from you, you also don't pay
taxes. So it's to drain the middle class. Right. It's like, but if you land somewhere in the
middle, suddenly you have to like, you're the one who has to like bear the burden of everything. It's
so fucking weird that way and there's nothing you can do about it nothing can be done it's an
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thank you if there's a time at the end of class can we pull up the big milk video
oh you wanted me to show that last time yeah sure
there it is because if it's AI they call it slap oh yeah play it we'll go out on this
wait is this wait hold on am i going to get a dinged i guess we can just cut it out of the
podcast yeah go ahead and play it okay
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That's pretty good.
Bravo.
Bravo.
That's freaking cool, man.
I like it a lot.
That's a new Chick-fil-A commercial.
Yeah, so, you know, I don't know.
You, like, it's interesting, right?
Because you have to think, whenever we see movies that have animals in them,
they always have at the end, no animals or harm making this.
And one thing for fucking sure that AI-generated video is going to do
is, like, really protect a lot of animals from having to be fucking,
up in movies because definitely like it's still not cool getting a chimpanzee on set or whatever
which i did once still feel bad about it and babies babies can now work long hours because they're
not real exactly it's like yeah exactly child labor all that stuff there's a lot of good that's
going to come from it for sure and then also it's like what are you going to do like if you really
wanted to make that without AI. What are you going to fucking do, man? How are you going to do that?
You're going to get cows and throw them in a fan? You know how hard that's going to be?
You're going to have to have a catapult to launch a cow into a fan. Think of the energy that
would take. You know? So we have to like just distinguish. But first of all, you can't just
call it Slop because it's AI. Yeah, everything I just showed you was Slop. Verifiably garbage.
Just shit. Like, just a dumb idea that cost, like, I put no thought into, but I'm just bored. I'm
like, I want to see what people look like fighting on cheese, essentially. Don't even know why.
I just interested. That is Slop.
But I don't know if you can call this, that video that we just saw Slop.
You might not like the music, but that's not really Slop.
So maybe we have to find like a new, I don't know, a new word for whatever this shit is.
That's what was cool about talking to the SORA people, is they really want people,
they want this to, they want people who don't have access to Hollywood-style cameras and a crew
and they want someone to,
they want them to, like, be able to make something cool.
Is that bad?
I mean, I don't know.
Also, probably there is some capitalist stuff in there, too.
They do recognize the first moment,
like some high schooler makes the next, like,
Stanley Cooper movie with Sora and VO.
It's like, yeah, the AI bubble will not pop a little bit longer.
I mean, that's where I've been kind of shocked by the people who are attacking me about it is
I feel like they haven't thought it all the way through that because it seems like in some ways
I align with them in world view like in the sense I see this as a more of like an equalizer.
Yeah, it's a disruptive.
it's fucked up, but it seems like a kind of amazing equalizer and the power of media to satirize
is like you can really use the, to use the language some of you use, which I don't necessarily
care for, but you could use the sort of the, you could use the swinging watch of the oppressors
hypnotic fucking pendulum, you know, which is all.
the forms of media that we've all just gotten used to and think is normal and you could duplicate
it almost identically and people are so used to thinking that's real I believe that you could use
it you know come on got to be a little bit more think outside the box a little bit more just a sort
of monolithic denouncement of AI generated
content seems a little short-sighted.
Let's see.
Tanner is making a very
important point here. Slop is for pigs,
how symbolic is the boars
domesticate into fat little cute
hugs?
It is fun to say big swinging hog.
I don't know why.
Michael Dobos wants to know
when will you do the AI porn?
No, fuck that.
Because like, I mean, I'm still, I'm from a different
time. I don't know where you kids are at with porn right now, but I'm still kind of like,
I'm embarrassed that I look at porn. I can't get that out of me. It feels gross and weird.
So, dude, I mean, yeah, it would be fun. Also, I feel gross talking to chat GPT.
Like, all of a sudden, making it do like erotic conversations with me would just seem like
really not cool, not cool at all. I've been getting it to tell me, like, I've been giving it
medical symptoms. I've been letting my kids talk to it. I can't suddenly be like, act
like you're Cindy Sweeney with a big old hog.
Wouldn't feel right.
Also, I don't want all my kink fantasies going up through the fucking open AI servers.
Give me a break.
That's a real problem they're going to contend with.
Like, I get them wanting to monetize and get more people interested in it.
But, dude, nobody in their right fucking mind is going to, like, feed chat GPT, all their kink shit.
Nobody.
you'd be out of your mind to do that that's crazy wasn't there guys making only fans models out of
AI yeah and so they're putting in maybe not their own personal stuff but what other people want
they go to see who's searching what dude I know and I think there's a sort of that's another
place where you have to ask like what's more ethical like porn human porn or AI generated
porn it's virtual pimping right and no one gets hurt like it's like it's like it's
It's, you know what I mean?
Like, there isn't, you have to, there's all these, like, weird things that we're all going to have to deal with.
I'm sure the consumers get hurt and shrinks their brain.
Porn drinks your brain?
Seems like that could be useful.
How?
Oh, useful to, like, bad people?
Well, like, you know, somebody has, like, a brain injury, right?
Their brain starts swelling.
Oh.
Instead of removing a piece of the skull, you just show them to jerk off to porn.
Has anyone thought of that?
If you really shrinks your brain, it seems like it could really help.
I wonder if neurologists have considered this.
Any neurologists in the chat?
That's what you do.
If somebody comes in with a head injury and they're having brain swelling, you're like,
dude, what kind of porn do they like?
Like a theater where you wheel them in and they just jerk off for a few hours and then shrink
their brain down.
Mike says whistling grows your brain.
Fuck you, Mike Mulgrew.
Whistling grows your brain.
Okay.
I'm not.
I can whistle. It's easy to whistle. I know how to whistle. I could show you YouTube videos I've
seen on how to whistle. It's easy to whistle. I can whistle. So I could easily do that.
And the moment that I do that, I am sending a message to the world, which is succumb to pressure.
And yeah, yeah, it would be easier for me to whistle. Trust me, it would be easier for me to whistle.
and a lot of people in very
like high places of power
would love for me to bow down and whistle
be a whistling man
but I do whistle
in fact as soon as this camera starts rolling I'm gonna be whistling
you've heard me whistle right Josh
you're whistling when you came in here
there you go
so yeah
you whistle
how about that
you whistle
talk about bad combacks you whistle
you fuck
you whistle you fuck
you whistle
all right I gotta get out of here you guys
I love you thank you for letting me do this
hey if you didn't watch the Oz Perlman episode
you should watch it you blew my fucking mind
there's a clip of it on Instagram but you need to see
the whole thing. Holy shit. That guy is cool. And also check out his book. It's not bad. He sent me a
copy. It's good. So I got to get out of here. I'm headed to Illinois this weekend. I think it's
Illinois. Where am I headed this weekend, Josh? St. Louis, not Illinois. What the fuck's wrong
with me? I'm going to be in St. Louis, November 6th, 7th, and 8th at Helium. I don't know if I've ever
done that. Then after that, I'm going to be at the Legion of Skanks, Favis.
and then after that, I'm going to be in Tampa, Florida. It's side splitters. And that will be
the end of this part of the tour. So come see me. If you're in any of those places, I got to go.
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