Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 727: Ryan Bledsoe

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

Ryan Bledsoe, UAP experiencer and host of Bledsoe Said So, re-joins the DTFH! You can learn more about Bledsoe Said So and listen/subscribe on their website, BledsoeSaidSo.com. You can also follow Ryan on X and Instagram! This episode is brought to you by: Give your loved ones a unique keepsake you’ll all cherish for years—Storyworth Memoirs! Right now, save $10 or more during their Holiday sale when you go to Storyworth.com/Duncan! Amentara (formerly Minnesota Nice Ethnobotanicals) invites you to dive into this world of natural magic—head to Amentara.com/go/Duncan and use code DUNCAN22 for 22% off your first order!  Get your first month of BlueChew FREE Just use promo code DUNCAN at checkout and pay five bucks for shipping. That’s it. Head to BlueChew.com for details and safety info. 

Greetings, friends. Wow, do I have a great podcast for you today? Ryan Bledsoe has returned to the DTFH. And if you're somebody who has interest in UAPs, the paranormal and orbs, and if you're like me and you've always wanted to see these things, this is the episode for you. Because it is, it turns out,

you might not need to be flying around in a fighter jet with some kind of top secret radar system to see whatever these things are. In fact, you might just need to look up and have the guts to say, hello? Seriously, it sounds crazy, but Ryan just had a skywatching event here in Austin, and yeah,

apparently there's a way to manifest orbs, and we go over that in today's episode of the DTFH. Ryan is the host of a wonderful podcast, Bledso said so of course he's on all the socials Instagram Twitter Only fans

I subscribe I subscribe but now listen to him here everybody welcome back to the DTFH Ryan Bledso Ryan welcome back to the DTFH it is so good to see you and I am

gutted because I fucked up my schedule and was not able to attend the, I don't know what would you call it, the orb party that you had at Christina's house? Yeah, I just say Skywatch. A sky watch. And so you and some comics got together in Austin and you, I know your dad doesn't like this term, called, you manifested orb, your dad doesn't like the term, summit.

tell me about it yeah no it was it was awesome first of all thanks for having me back this was like the greatest freaking podcast in the world thank you um yeah so i was gutted you couldn't be there too because we've known each other for i don't know how many years now and i was like excited to meet in person but it'll have to be next time so um it was dope so i don't even know where to begin i'll just back up a few months ago my dad in our videos and our story and all that was brought up on Rogan and I was just I get this feeling in my gut when these kinds of things happen like I can't sit around I have to do something I have to stop you why don't you tell it for folks who might not be so familiar with you

you know people always join this podcast who haven't been listening talk a little bit about your dad and what he's most known for in the world okay now I don't have the episode number but about two or three years ago, I did come on this show and gave the full lowdown. So I want to plug the new people to your previous episode. We'll put the link down below, guys, if you want some backup. But yeah, just to summarize. But we'll do a basic.

Yeah, we'll do a basic. But I'm trying to get people to go through your catalog. Thank you. But long story short, in 2007, my father and my brother, they were just finishing a carpentry job outside of town with three other contractors. My dad downsized from this major, like, multi-million dollar enormous house building and real estate empire, fell on hard times, lost it all.

We went dirt poor, and he had this small crew of like three men and my brother, who was only 17. They finished a job. My dad was just at the end of his rope. He was not enjoying really fishing. I'm very quickly paraphrasing the story. And he's just praying to God. like, I can't go with the suffering anymore. I can't feed my kids. He had Crohn's

disease, which was debilitating. So he was just like either take my life or, you know, turn it around. I can't go on like this. And he saw these two big balls of fire on the horizon that were bigger than the sun. It looked like two sons. And he's like, that's not right. That shouldn't be there. Yeah. And he knew it was something very weird. And he turns to run. But then when he looks back, a third one shoots up beside them. And then the next thing he knows, he's back at the campfire where all the guys were fishing about half a mile into the woods. And when he returns, they're like kind of yelling at him.

Where have you been? We've been looking for you for hours. It turns out it took him about a year or so with an investigation, all these different people piecing their story together. He was very confused by this, but he finally came to understand that he was missing for four hours when he saw those three balls of fire. During that time, my brother was in the woods and he saw these two tiny three to four foot tall entities with these round red eyes and triangles on their chest and they glowed like the color of the moon. And it freaked him out and he was like

kind of frozen in place. One of them was constantly making eye contact with him. The other one was walking around picking up bottles, cans, sticks, whatever. And then by the time my dad comes back and he's shouting junior junior where are you his name is chris junior he's like junior it's like he was let go of this hold whatever was over him and those beings dove into a pile of sticks and just vanished they disappeared they dove into sticks yeah like a pile of sticks a big pot like imagine imagine people have been cutting down trees and there's a massive pile of wood and was the was the one making eye contact with him does he think that's the reason he couldn't move was it like holding him in place? Was it sending him any messages while it was doing that or it was just

freezing him? Yeah. And he doesn't know if it was freezing him or if he was just traumatized in fear. Yeah, he doesn't know. Our take is that it probably was holding him in place. And I mean, why not? We'll go fringe. These are kinds of things. Yeah, this isn't fringe at all. I thought maybe you'd go a little weirder instead of all this normal stuff about creatures in the woods. freezing you in place than vanishing into a pile of sticks. I think the thing that people have a hard time wrapping their heads around, which is what I don't usually lead with, is that these beings telepathically communicate.

And I want to get into that later. But so they gave my dad messages while he was gone for four hours. And one of those messages was he's like, where's my son? Where's my son? They're like, don't worry. We're keeping him safe. You know, he was traumatized for life. But so they were holding him there.

And, you know, he didn't receive any sort of communication or anything, but my dad did for hours and we can go into that too. So moving on, he's let go from the hold of these little beings and the other guys are like, you know, this isn't funny or, you know, thinking they're playing a prank. My dad's saying, I saw these UFOs. My brother's saying I saw this little alien creature. There's all the shouting and commotion going on. And then one of the guys shouts look and they look straight up and there's these nine, eight to nine really big, white balls of light that they mistook for stars and they start scrambling around and all these weird patterns and then one of them shoots down to the other side of the Cape Fear River. So they're like,

we got to get out of here. Yeah. So they all get in the truck and they start driving out of the forest. And when they get out of the woods, which is a half mile narrow dirt and mud road, um, one of these big white balls of light, but it was egg shaped. with, I'm going to say spikes, but they weren't physical. It was light. Yeah. Imagine like tendrils of light, like flowing all over this thing. It was blocking their path, hovering a couple feet off the ground in the road.

And they slammed to a stop. It slowly just kind of drifts up, hovers over their truck right over the sunroof and then floats up away. One of the guys that was riding with my dad recognized the trailer to the right, because they We're in a trailer parked out in the country of North Carolina right then. They recognized this trailer and they knew the people and the lights were on and the main door was open and the storm door was the only thing that was shut. You know those glass doors that you can see through, but still a door? Yeah. So they go up and they're banging on the door.

Hey, hey, hey. And one of the guys looks in and can see that the couple that he knew was just staring at the TV completely like, you know, Nothing, nothing under there. Yeah. They're not reacting to the screening. It's like they were hypnotized. Yeah. Weird.

And then they get in the truck, they drive off, and they get about a mile down the road and right, my dad slams to a stop in the road again, because right over the spot where his wife died in his arms in 1983 at like 21 years old in a car wreck. She was mangled and she died in his arms. one of them was hovering right over the spot where her body was out of the car fuck and dad had this like flash in his mind of her being okay and it was like all this guilt was released all this stuff they all get home they're thinking it's the end of the world the guys are fighting who gets to see their wives and kids last and um you know dad and my brother get home and they're shutting

all the blinds turning on all the lights grabbing all the guns and they're like what's going on Where's the military? We live in Fayetteville, which is near Fort Bragg, biggest military base in the world. So they're assuming this is happening everywhere. You know, of course you would. Like, you would think everyone's seeing these lights that this is like a end of the world. In times, shit, an invasion. And so go ahead.

That is wild. Yeah. So they turn on the news, trying to see, you know, a message from the Pentagon, the White House. like what's happening you know what's happening and um you know again i said we live out in the country of north carolina so my grandfather was our next door neighbor and they have this big dog kennel with like 15 to 20 hounds in it for hunting beer bear and deer and all that stuff raccoons whatever and they start going berserk they're just you know howling and barking and my dad's like oh no someone's you know trying to break into your grandfather's house i need to

go check it out. And Junior's like, no, no, no, no, don't go over there. Don't go over there. He's freaking out. Yeah, don't go, right? So my dad goes anyway. My brother goes with him because he doesn't want to be in the house alone. And when he gets back to the forest in our property, he has our dog, which is a Chesapeake Bay retriever. They have these natural hunting instincts, right? Like, you know, labs and all that stuff. He taps her on the butt with his foot. He's like, go get him, Rosie. And she runs through the bushes to find whatever was back. there that they could hear scrambling around. My dad and my brother run around the bushes to try to cut it off and meet the dog on the other side. My brother takes off home. He was so scared at that

moment and my dad's running alone. And then when he gets to the end of our property, big six acre property, you know, we had a lot of forest and stuff in our yard. He gets to the mouth of the forest and there's this one of those beings that my brother saw, the little ones. It's standing there and my dad's like, okay, you got me, I give up, I surrender, and it tells them telepathically, you don't understand we're not here to hurt you, we're here to help you. And then at that point, the dog appears and it just vanishes. And then the next night or the night after, he saw them one more time, but this time he sees a light in the backyard, and he grabs his rifle that he hunts bear with.

And in his head, he's like, I'm going to end this once and for all, so my 17-year-old son isn't in fear. So he goes out there to our bushes, or, you know, the bushes at the mouth of the forest. He crawls under them because it's a very tight space and he gets deep into the woods. And by the time, wait, wait, he was going out there to blast one of these little guys. Oh, yeah, he was going to kill it. Holy shit, man. My dad was a- Even though it said to him, listen, we're not here to hurt you.

He's like, I don't know, why would I trust you? You fucks. Well, that's kind of speaks to my dad's character. how he changed after this because he was a man who was hard as fuck and um he would like he was the kind of guy where when he was like six years old my grandfather would drop him in the forest at you know four in the morning with no flashlight and say come home after you've killed a deer you know and pitch black darkness it's a this is a good dad by the way that is good dad behavior i'm sorry but if i've got little guys in my on my property freeze in one of

kids doing some shit to me yeah I'm gonna blast one it's like I you know what I know see it because here's the thing and I don't mean to derail the story which is incredible please side note make that a person right there's a person on your property some dude with a beard with a weird outfit on V on his shirt telepathically communicates I'm here to help you fuck off these little guys get a pass don't they You know what I mean? Like, they get a pass. No.

Like, number one, communicate normally if you want to hang out. And can't you come to my door? Why don't you do it in the day? Give me a call. Hey, we're little guys. We want to help you. You know what I mean? The whole thing.

It's my basic point. Use words. Use words. When you're on my planet, you'll speak with your fucking mouth. go ahead sorry it's true no but that that's hilarious and um he he goes up with his rifle and he's like i'm gonna finish this hold on you're fading out i lost you uh oh there you're back i don't know what just happened it's because i said he goes because of what i said i'm sorry little guys yeah they're you're in trouble now so he goes out there and he comes face to face with it

and immediately he's hit with this understanding like kind of like a telepathic wave of knowledge. It's like imagine a computer file and you unzip it and it's just like, boom, and there's like gigabytes and gigabytes, like all this information just unfolded in his mind and he actually dropped his gun. And they conveyed to him the sense of like empathy, the suffering of life, the aspects of consciousness like, you know, grass, the wind, the leaves, everything has consciousness. Everything is alive and it has intelligence, not to kill, not to harm, but to love and to treat life as sacred. It completely changed him. He never killed a bug again. He never hunted again. Never, he won't even kill snakes. He'll scoop him up in a bucket and

drop him off a few miles away. Completely changed him. And, okay, go ahead. Sorry. Well, that's essentially the ending of the first event. Well, let me fill some some i'm sure you might be aware of this maybe not um and josh i don't know if we can pull stuff up or not but um so up in north carolina obviously you're aware of the horrific floods that happened up there like just a chimney rock washed away once in a hundred year floods now were you aware of the sightings that people started having of little beings out there did you hear about this no no yeah can you can you can you pull up like i think they're calling them goblins but can you pull up north carolina goblin

flood or something but so you know where the term tommy knockers comes from no so the term tommy knockers was a term that came from coal miners and they sit many of them would see these little things little like creatures down there in the mines and uh they they claim that these creatures would knock on the walls of the, you would hear this, and sometimes that knocking would happen right before an explosion, like they were trying to warn them, get the fuck out of the mind. And so after these floods, there have been these sightings from people living in rural North Carolina seeing these little beings out there that, you know, seem to have also been fucked up by the floods. Like the floods, whatever subterranean colonel,

they had down there or whatever got flooded out and they're also kind of fucked up by them but there's been this uptick in seeing these things can you can you find that josh okay yeah great can you what did you just read it real quick Josh what does it say this is Josh my producer hey Josh your producer nine for 10 accounts of UFOs in North Carolina

not UFOs did you find the goblin thing floods, goblets. Anyway, it doesn't matter. We'll find it later and pull it up. Yeah. The point is, you know, you've got a one, especially something about the fact that they like went into sticks, right? This doesn't speak to me of an off world being,

but something that is familiar with the terrain knows how to hide. And you know what I'm saying? It's like, maybe these aren't, necessarily just because there's orbs around them maybe they're not necessarily extraterrestrial maybe they're more earth related and the message

they were conveying to your dad it is like the it would be the message it's the same thing that you hear from indigenous people you know what I mean it's the same thing

that you hear from anyone who's like who hasn't lost their connection with the earth It's like, you know, everything's alive that I had a shaman on the podcast and he said that, he said that the trees thought it was funny that humans placed themselves over monkeys, but monkeys knew that the trees also had personalities and spirit within them and humans didn't. And they thought that was like really funny because humans think, we think we think we're so advanced. but we're ignorant when it comes to the basic, fundamental way things work. Right. Well, they said that they come from the spirit world. They called it the eternal world.

And they said that this is the perilous world where we come to grow. It's a journey of the soul. And we come here to grow. And then when we die, we go back to the eternal world and an orb of light. We become as they are and we're free to go wherever we want to go. and the thing is um and then there's a couple more points uh and i've got nothing but time i'm chilling but there's a couple there's a couple more points i want to hit on this stuff and then we can move on to like some more modern stuff what's happening now but um you know this this this is

a dimensional thing this is this is like you know in the ancient mystery schools they they concealed this one great truth that we come from another world world. Right. We're not hybrids in the sense that we come from Mars or we come from Jupiter or whatever, but human beings, we're hybrids in the sense that we come from the implicate order. We come from the spiritual dimensions first. Our higher self conceives our little avatar here, writes the whole script of your life. And then boom, you're born here and everything goes exactly according to plan, dictated by your own part of your highest dimensional consciousness that sits with God, basically. Which correct me if I'm wrong here.

It isn't even coming here implies a separation from God, where it's more like we come here in the way that a rose grows on a bush. You know, you know what I mean? the rose hasn't traveled anywhere it's just sort of a manifest state a part of the the everyone notices the rose nobody notices the push yeah and the thorns yeah but that's the that's what we are right like we're still there we're in this place right now kind of dreaming this up for lack of a better word we're we're there right now you and me we're there but we're all the experience we're having, we're blind to that. Most people are blind to that place.

Yeah. And I think that's the great mystery. So as of the last 80 years, you know, there's been this narrative, this psychological operation perpetrated on humanity to think of otherworldly beings as everything but angelic or divine or mystical or spiritual. It's been, you know, aliens. It's been all this. They come from Mars. Well, I mean. I'm sorry.

yes i see what you're saying but yeah right now we're saying comes from mars it used to be these are elves these are fairies these are yes no these are elementals these you know what i mean because our understanding of the universe was not where it's at right now so these exact phenomena angels angels you've got it yeah the star of bethlehem an orb that appeared at this place maybe even the orb was the divine light coming in or so you know who knows but you got it but if if that exact same thing happened over bethlehem today people would be like holy shit it's one of those new jersey drones you know that's where we're at right now This episode of the DTFH is brought to you by Storyworth.

My dad used to tell me a story about a pet crow he had. My dad had a pet crow. I don't know how he captured the crow. I don't know if the crow just started living with him when he was a kid. But he had a crow. He really loved animals. And he said like the crow. trained to do stuff. He really loved that crow. And then I think one of his dogs ate the crow.

The problem is I don't remember too much of the story other than my dad had a pet crow. My dad, he's with the ancestors now. He died. But so I, without a Ouija board, I can't say, what was the name of that crow? I remember it was really funny. So forever, the name of my dad's pet crow has been eliminated from the history books. I'll never know the name of my dad's pet crow and that poor pet crow devoured by my dad's dog will be nameless evermore. This is why I recommend story worth memoirs for your loved ones this holiday season. It might sound a little intimidating, but it's easy. They'll love it. It's a gift they won't see coming, something that makes them feel truly special, and it turns out it's a gift for you too.

Because if I had done Storyworth with my dad, I could just go in there and figure out what the crow's name was. Probably even more descriptions of it and what happened the day his dog ate the crow. It would be memorialized forever. Each week, Storyworth emails a loved one, a memory-provoking question that you get to choose. Questions like, what were your favorite toys as a child? Or what are you most proud of? All your loved ones needs to do is respond to that email with a story. They can either write a story over email or record it over the phone for StoryWorth to transcribe.

It's so easy with no apps or passwords required. It's perfect for even your least tech-savvy relatives, aka all of our relatives. After a year, StoryWorth compiles your loved one's stories and photos into a beautiful keepsake hardcover book. Photos are printed in fiber, color. It's a treasure your loved ones and you will be able to share and revisit for you. generations. This year, they added a bunch of new features to make storytelling even easier with personalized questions and magic editor. Meanwhile, their magic layout and new book designs make finished books, and especially photos look even more beautiful. Plus, they've just rolled

out Spanish language support. Crosse. Give your loved ones a unique keepsake you'll all cherish for years. Storyworth memoirs. Right now, save $10 or more during their holiday sale when you go to storyworth.com slash Duncan. That's storyworth.com slash Duncan to save $10 or more on your order. Thank you, Story Worth. Yeah, you got it. And all of the conversations I've had with, like, highest level military and intelligence

insiders, they know. I could show you, you know, emails with people in very high places who are seeing these orbs. Hold on. You're fading in and out for some reason. Hold on. Give it a second. Also, I think it's worth quickly noting that that's the many fascinating things about your dad, one of them is you and your dad, your dad, the intelligence community became interested in him, obviously. a sudden. Yeah. And so all of these like high ranking officials started showing up at your

house. Like, you know, it wasn't like he was just telling people about this. Somehow it got all the way to the top and people became very interested in your dad. It's because it's real. You know, it's because it's real. So the Department of Defense has invested great resources in studying and investigating our family. And that's naturally, um, you read my fucking mind. so beautifully because that's where I wanted to go next was how they got interested, right? So we covered the beginning of the story with the first couple nights and long story short, it never went away. The experiences continued. Me and my other two siblings and my mother even would be seeing orbs, little beings running through the house, all that stuff, like right away.

And in fact, you saw one of these things? I've seen tens of thousands of these things. Describe them to me. Okay. The orbs are not ships. They are not anything other than your physical body viewing dimensional phenomenon that doesn't make sense to a neurochemical brain. It is an entity of higher consciousness, higher vibration,

whatever new age hippie shit you want to say to understand it, that they come into our world and they slow, their frequency, energy state down just enough for your little eyes to paint a picture. These orbs are beings. They are intelligences. They don't need machines. We see them as orbs as they are traveling through dimensions. Many, many times we see beings project from these orbs with hands, feet, heads, whatever, eyes.

And they speak telepathically. They have messages. And you've seen these beings. Yes. In your house? Yes. And in my yard. I've seen multiple in the house.

So wait. Let's pause here because I needed some descriptions. Can you just describe your first encounter with one of these beings? Okay. Well, when you say first encounter with one of these beings, with my understanding of this 19 years in, every time you see an orb, that's a being. But I'm assuming you mean visualizing. visually something with arms and when they're when they're deciding to sort of manifest in a yeah as a hominid yes I got you so I was about 21 right word but it kind of makes you sound smart

when you say hominid hominid yeah it does that's a little guy I got a I got a very studious vibe from that um so I was about 22 I went when I saw it in that form right and I was on like summer break from college. I guess I would have been more like 21. And my buddy and I were in the room and we were staying up really late, just talking about all kinds of stuff. Pro tip that these things tend to appear the most when you're talking about them and other things related to this. But you could, there's no one way, right? But anyway, so we're staying up until like two or three in the morning talking about this stuff and something touched me. Like I felt like a, a warm. static feeling. It wasn't painful, but it was definitely like an electrical heat sensation. It touched

me on my rib cage. And I was like, what the fuck? And I lifted my shirt and there was a red mark on my ribs like a little hand touched me. And my friend who is in the room with me, his eyes got wide as saucers. He's like, whoa, he saw the print on my hand. He grew up in a haunted house. He totally got the vibe. He knew this stuff was real. And then we looked in the corner and there was a being standing there. So something invisible. touched me and then we looked over and this entity was standing by my closet door and its head was as high as the doorknob and it had perfectly you know round head big round eyes it was translucent like glass so there was no like color or specific detail other than the shape the head the arms

the legs the torso and then it just vanished my friend was like you saw that too right i was like yeah I saw that you saw that and we were like freaking out um and there's been many other times like for example Well, actually, when I first met you, I told you this story a long time ago. But I had watched this satanic horror movie with Johnny Depp in it. It's called like The Ninth Gate or something. Yeah, the ninth gate. It was all right. But in the movie, there's this part where there's this text that was like, you know, written by Satan.

And I was like, whoa, that's an interesting concept. And actually, I'm not into that stuff. I'm, I have a religion minor. And I'm just really fascinated in. to like studying all these different texts. Sure. You know, so I'm like, I just want to see the validity of this. Because it named a real text in the movie, right?

So I Google the text just to, because I was like nerding out about the movie. I was like, well, this is interesting. And when I went to open the text, a shiny little glowing white bean ran across my kitchen in my apartment. And I said, okay, I'm good. And I closed the text. I was like, I don't need to know. Yeah. I don't need to open this stuff.

Well, I've had that, yeah, I, yeah, don't fuck with grim wars. You know, it's a kid's game because that's a problem with these fucking things, especially movies like the ninth gate or, which I agree, it's kind of like mid. It's all right. But, um, evil dead, um, any, any of these movies, though, none of them are suggesting you should crack open a cursed book and summon. spirits if you're a kid and you watch that you become interest you're like yeah is that real and then because you're born in the west and in the west your blinders are put on you depending on what

family generally these blinders get put on you where all the stuff people have been openly talking about and connecting to in the same way we connect to electricity or any other thing we don't see it and so we also have this like ignorance mixed in with it and the next thing you know you've obtained if you're particularly unlucky an actual grim war not some bullshit like the necronomicon they used to sell at waldon books which is just really some samarian jibber jabber you get the black pullet the lesser keys of solomon or something like that who knows there's a lot of them out there and then you ignore the warning that is generally at the beginning of any grim war we just don't fuck with this it's you'll fuck yourself up you make sure whatever flip through that

let's get to the part where i get my dick sucked where i can summon something that sucks my dick and then you start intoning these things you do it and it's just like playing with fucking gunpowder right and then something happens you aren't ready for it no one prepared you you weren't raised to understand there's extra dimensional beings the universe is populated with all kinds of consciousness some of them are good some of them are bad some of them are chaotic some of them are annoyed that you're fucking with them and then the next thing you know one of them many things can happen many things can go wrong and i've had a similar experience where i was fucking with a um one of those books and uh i didn't see a being but a

god it's so creepy it still creeps me out dude in fact a being might have been less creepy yeah I'm just after I'd been I don't know intoning some fucking

shit in this book I hear this I look behind me you know when a coin falls on the ground we all know that sound yeah like a fucking coin

had fallen out of nowhere and just landed on my uh on the carpet of my shitty apartment and dude i was the same i gave the book i'm like fuck this i mean first of all it was like a penny it was wasn't even a valuable coin but yeah i suppose if it had been like a wasted opportunity but the point is i didn't like it either that's something you and me have in common we're we're interested but then also there's a sense of

like man i don't know if i quite belong there that seems like a no go zone that's called in a port when something just pops into a material reality like that and i don't know this is just my speculation with you know how interacting with the spirit world for so long it could have been something exactly like what happened to me trying to stop you like nope nope nope don't don't don't Don't look at this stuff. Or it could have just been like throwing, you know, like throwing bread to a bird. You know what I mean? It could have just been like that.

You know what I mean? It could have just been like, ah, that monkey was, why is he making sounds that bring him into our attention? They like little round bits of metal. Throw them a little round bit of metal. See if he likes it. It's shiny. Yeah, they like shiny circles of shit metal. Well, there is a concept called pennies from heaven, right?

Yeah, I've heard that. But this happened to my dad one time. He wasn't like looking at any weird text. And like full disclosure, I'm not into that stuff from a practice standpoint. I was just nerding out about the movie. I was like, I got to see if that text is real. I had no clue that there was even such a thing as like cursed texts or whatever. I just wanted to give that disclosure that I don't mess with weird shit like that.

All right. okay guy with a goddess on the wall and look at your wall can you show people what's behind you yeah you don't mess with weird stuff no no no I don't mess with dark stuff okay right but okay you did

my friend had an extraordinary experience hanging out with you which we'll get into later but yeah this is you know what I mean you were raised in this environment so what you think think is weird is what most people are like what the fuck what your sort of daily experience to most of us is so weird right and I mean that is in the best way possible in the cool weird you know but I get it you're making a distinction here between the light in the dark a light in the

dark thank you yeah and if you want if you want to have like a theological question about the goddess we can go all into that how it's we'll get into hawthor um but that's hawthor right yeah well that's one name she gave yeah but um so you intelligence people visiting your family yep yep so that's go ahead yeah i'll pick up from there so all that stuff had started in the beginning and it was like what's happening we continued to see thousands and thousands of of beings but it took my father 10 months to report what had happened in any official capacity because my brother was so traumatized. He didn't want to talk about it.

He didn't want to deal with it. He didn't like when it came up. My mother didn't like it. She was, and still it was Pentecostal Christian. And that's very like literalist interpretation of the Bible. Nothing outside of this, you know, 66 book collection exists or is real in any capacity. It's demonic. So she had a very hard pushback.

people were calling social services on us that you know there was talks of us getting taken away their marriage falling apart my dad just didn't want to talk about it to a point and then finally after 10 months after locking himself in his room being a recluse he's like I can't take this anymore I have to get this off my chest to somebody so we were watching TV one night and it was one of those cheesy like mid 2000s UFO or ghost hunter shows I think it was called UFO files and there was like a line across the bottom on the screen like a blurb and it said if you've had a sighting reported it at mufond.com. So he reported it there and it turned out to be a front for the CIA and they're doing mass surveillance on on the world collecting reports of paranormal phenomenon so they can get in

and investigate and then shut it down. So very quickly we just shut it down. Yeah. Yeah. Duncan, think about this. Don't you think it's a little funny that all of these military intelligence, filmmaker, all these people, the only people they put out in front of the world are military and government employees. Yeah, what the fuck is that? Because they're owned. They're not going to take us the people with the most evidence of this thing in the fucking world and say, hey, you guys want to hear a cool story about UFOs? Look into this. No, no, no, no, no, because ours isn't scary. It has to be scary. It has to subconsciously make you think you're going to be harmed or you're going to be afraid if you connect with this thing. Their whole narrative is

fear. And also, for whatever reason, I did it to you just now. Somehow, if the feds are paying attention to you, your experience is more valid than if not. So in that way, they completely are in control of all the stories. Once you get that stamp that you've had some contact by the feds or that they're interested in you, now it's real. If you're, you know, minus that, well, okay, it's like you're calling into coast to coast or something like that. But you know what I mean? Like the, I love the Age of Disclosure documentary that came out and primarily people like you and I, we're aware of this stuff so it's not like you're watching it getting your wig blown back or anything like that we know about it but what i i thought was really cool is that it did lean into

this is the federal government these are elected officials these are people who seemingly don't have much to gain from coming forward with whatever they could talk about within the bounds of the non-disclosure agreements they've signed and the legality and what whatever, like losing their security clearance. I saw it at South by Southwest with Joe and I kept looking back in the theater. Dude. I mean, these are just people who like are at South by Southwest

to like, you know, fucking be at a festival. These are tech people. Some of them are aware of this reality, but most of them, the look on everyone's face, man, was just, they were astonished. and scared and like what the fuck because what you're saying regardless of the validity it being validated by the government we have since we were little been told this is bullshit nonsense and if not that evil but that is the overarching cultural narrative when it comes to everything

you're talking about when yeah you hear this sort of thing you've been trained to shut it off in your mind immediately no not real whoever this bled-so guy is full of shit whoever his dad is nervous breakdown this did not happen none of this is real and it's a instantaneous response instantaneous response you watch a NASA press conference they could say whatever like this is real this must be real you watch a federal official come out and say it okay i guess it's real but people the common folk yeah all crazy lives ruined by the way lives ruined by whatever this conditioning is people who have had legitimate encounters have had their lives destroyed because they came out and started talking about it like you openly talk about it so

And you're absolutely right. And in 2008, so it started January 2007, took my dad 10 months. He reported in October of 2007. By October of 2008, there was a documentary about us on TV that we have been told point blank by multiple intelligence officers that it was an actual CIA hit job to make us look like we were liars and we were crazy. And at the time, the subject was so highly classified, think about this. The government never, ever openly acknowledged any sort of UFO thing until like 2017.

That's right. And Emmitts, right? So they hard shut us down. They faked the lie detector test. My poor dad sat in a chair for four hours and they asked him 30 questions over and over and over and over. True, true, true, true, true. Until they got a flutter in his heart. And they said, ah, he's fucking lying.

And they went and they put that on TV. that's the reality of what happened and standard protocols you ask like five questions and it's just boom boom boom boom boom boom and it's done yeah they asked him 30 questions over and over so you understand like their tactics and what they do and that that didn't make it exactly easy either

I think it is important to place this in time by the way because we are now in a new age when it comes to how we take in this information people like it is now completely jumped out of fringe culture. In fact, you would almost be more fringe at this point to deny all of the experiences people have been having. All of the experiences now outweigh that you have to like, listen, I don't blame anybody for wanting to keep your little head in the fucking dummy sand and, you know, whatever, like fucking give gift cards for Christmas, you motherfucker.

eat your turkey or whatever shitty fucking food i don't blame people for wanting to do that because it's like there's something comforting in the dummy sand right but yeah when you've got so many different people across the board saying i saw this this happened this is look at the footage the fucking thing suddenly is going 400 000 miles per hour why would i even want to talk about this shit now you have to deal with it this is happening it's no it's no longer fringe but when it happened to you dude you are seeing little green man and and they are they they seriously would have taken someone's kids away from them for for having these they try no that's what you said it's just like dude they they what the the i had a caseworker in the eighth grade social services come home and you know monitor me

days and days after school like somebody called social services well yeah I mean in the look you have to understand of course like you know you you're you hear that your neighbors the dad is

claiming to have been abducted talking about little dudes in the woods you know going out into the woods to shoot one of them I mean all of these things based on how people perceive reality would set off some alarms right you'd be worried about the kid yeah that's why i don't blame my mother exactly and of course and you add to at pentecostal christianity

you know what i mean now there's demons in the house your father's got demons attached to him you know there's so many reasons people will be concerned but times are changing the times are changing. Yeah. And why do you think that is? Why suddenly is the tactic no longer to wrecking ball a person's life, discredit them, ruin them? Why is it shifting more towards okay? They still do. But it's not the same. I mean, you got Marco Rubio on age of disclosure. You've got, you've got, who's the senator talking about underground bases and shit um you've got or congressman you've got they're still doing it but it's just not it's like they it feels like the dam is breaking it definitely is like they can't they can't control as much as they

used to be able to control and you know i'm happy to talk um in private there's just some things i don't want to put out there but there's definitely some still people that that mess with us in a certain way i don't know if you saw but i actually sent you a couple screenshots yesterday in that group chat with some emails that you might want to read when you get the chance. And just one example of people from the government trying to mess with us and change your story. Hey, we'll make you a movie. We'll pay you a lot of money, but you got to make it about reptilians. You got to make it, you know, that kind of thing.

And to an extent that does happen. Because the reptilians are when you talk about the fear version of this, the reptilians are sort of like the evil. version of aliens the lizard people and so i did see that by the way you're so basically what you're saying is don't buy into the fear they they want because if you're afraid you're definitely not going to try to look up at the sky and make contact with these things correct that's their biggest fear as told to us by many many pentagon um you know, colonels, CIA program directors, X, Y, Z, you name an agency, we've been there.

We've not to their facility, but like they've been to us. We've talked to them. Their biggest fear, the feds, the government, the military, the powers that be, their biggest fear, Duncan, as directly told to my father this year by a Pentagon colonel is what they call catastrophic disclosure. Right. Yes. Yes. I've heard about this. Yes.

Talk about it. Sorry. So who is this catastrophic to them? Because in this scenario that is literally their like nuclear option, worst case, stage five, whatever, defcon scenario is that the beings come into our world and they can't contain the narrative or the messaging anymore. And they completely lose control. And people interact with the phenomenon. And those beings intervene. and stop these government and military powers from continuing war and whatever it is that they're doing.

So it's called catastrophic disclosure, but the catastrophe is that they don't do the disclosure, the government, but it's the beings themselves. Well, I've got news for you. That is happening and that is inevitable. And all their little documentaries and silly little shit that they do, they're only just trying to stay ahead of omniscient interdimensional beings that will have the last laugh. Do you buy into the idea that there's a treaty or that some kind of agreement was reached? Absolutely not.

You don't buy into that. No. I ask because that would be an explainant. Like, it's the opposite. The government and the military and the powers that be are like against the phenomenon, which is why they spin it in such a negative way. the ultimate sciop is to convince you to be afraid to go outside and look up that is so fucking hilarious it is but it's it's unfortunate too no but i mean it's so absurd like the when you think about it yeah i've thought about it for 19 years the one thing they can't

redact is the sky they can't cover up the sky they can't cover up the sky they would if they could they can't and well they spray it they they essentially like but it does answer a lot of questions it's for me which is like this episode of this episode of The DTFH was brought to you by my celestial brothers and sisters at Amitara. Christmas is here. You're listening to this awesome episode with Ryan Bledsoe. You want to see the orbs. You want to communicate with the beings.

Maybe you want to catch a glimpse of the real elf on the shelf. Believe it or not, there's a very real anthropological theory that Santa Claus was a mushroom shaman. The red robe, the white trim, the flying reindeer. the whole jolly omniscient winter wizard thing. It all lines up with one of the most iconic mushrooms on planet Earth. Amanita Muscaria, the original Christmas mushroom. In northern Europe and Siberia, shaman's literally wore red and white, harvested these mushrooms,

dried them in stockings by the fire. Stockings! By the fire, and then delivered them to people's homes in the dead of winter. When reindeer eat these mushrooms, they start prancing around. They're on a trampoline, almost like they're flying reindeer. So whether Santa was actually riding a sleigh or just riding the waves of consciousness, we don't know, but the symbolism is everywhere woven directly into Christmas itself. And here's the beautiful part.

This ancient iconic mushroom, the one hidden in every children's book in Christmas postcard, is completely legal in almost every state. It's gentle, non-addictive, and people absolutely love it for relaxation, deep rest, vivid dreams, and this warm, glowing holiday bliss, and I'm one of those people, and I wouldn't be one of those people. If not for Amantara, they sent me their incredible Amanita capsules. Oh, my God. They're the largest Aminita muscaria supplier in the U.S. with over 45,000 happy customers. tens of thousands of kilos processed and distributed. They're ethical, consistent, high-quality products.

Amantara offers simple 500 milligram aminita capsules. Most people start with two to three capsules. That's one to 1.5 grams. Effects kick in within an hour and last six to eight hours. Definitely follow dosing guides and use responsibly friends. These things, just because they're legal, does not mean they're not powerful. I'll, they're just amazing. I must say that.

Like, I, you know, I'd heard of it before, but before I connected with them, I'd never tried it. Wow. Oh, definitely better than eggnog. Visit amantara.com forward slash go forward slash Duncan. Use code Duncan 22 for 22% off the first order. That's Amantara, A-M-E-N-T-A-R-A dot com, forth slash go forward slash Duncan. use code Dunkin 22 for 22% off the first order. And definitely please look at the guides on the site

so that you use these wonderful, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful things safely. Thank you, Emantara. by i don't know what the word for it is we just live streamed the nasa press conference about comma atlas and what i'm sweet i found fascinating about it was how absolutely mundane NASA manages to make everything in space that in their articulation of it it's so frustrating and dry, overly scientific, simultaneously condescending, that it becomes, you get the exact same feeling you get watching the UIP hearings. You get the exact same feeling you get when you watch a government official talking about these things, is that somehow you're being misled,

somehow they're kind of telling the truth, but not telling the truth. And it's short of, it like, it blows a fuse in your brain. You know what I mean? You're like, uh, then I'm just not going to pay attention. Fuck this shit. You get so frustrated with it. I can't stomach it. And it's a specific feeling. It's not disappointment.

I don't need the feds to tell me there's beings that exist in all kinds of forms throughout the universe. Anybody who's done a moderate hit of acid knows that or taken some mushrooms. But the feeling it gives is so specifically for. frustrating so specifically annoying that it almost feels like it must be intentional and what you're saying it sort of illuminates why that would be because the idea is like just bore the shit out of them say some stuff that way there's plausible deniability you could say look we kind of talked about it because it feels like that's the catastrophic part is everyone's going to be like you motherfuckers this entire time with all the horrors of the world you chose to distract us from our

birthright from our connection to the entire universe you covered that up you intentionally cubbyhold reality into going to target doing your job Having some kids, getting pissed off about politics, having a stroke and kicking the bucket. And the whole time, any one of us could have made contact with our higher selves or this, whatever this is. That's catastrophic, truly. They're the reptilians. Yes. Duncan, they're trying to convince you that the reptilians are out there. And you should be afraid of this boogeyman that flies around in fucking spaceships.

It's not that. In reality, it's them. It's the people who rule here. And this is no different from Gnosticism or, you know, there's so many different myths and parables about this control system that's been in place since the times of Babylon. Powers and principalities. Powers and principalities is what Jesus called it. You know, like, just these, yeah, some sort of like low-level fucking Babylonian fucks, some low-level, hierarchical, power-hungry, boring-ass vampiric shitbags, boring as a quality of personality, by the way. That's one of the primary symptoms.

They're dull and they're vicious, man. They fucking kill people. They'll kill your ass. Not you specifically. Yeah. It's insane. There was somebody at our property one time. It's complicated. Let's just say representing the DIA, which is a sister agency of the CIA, which stands for the Defense Intelligence Agency. And this is what happened. He said, so Chris, if the New York Times was to come onto your doorstep tomorrow and ask for the scoop, would you tell them your story the way that you experienced it or would you tell it the way that we're more comfortable with you telling it? dad was like, well, duh, I would just tell my story. He said, oh, well, then we could just, you know, put a bullet in Chris Jr. And Yvonne's brain.

Yvonne's my mom. And we could fly you up in a helicopter and drop you out in the ocean or run you off the road with the Mack truck. And nobody would even know that it was us. You would just disappear. You were there when they said that to you? No, no. I lived two hours from my dad.

But my brother, my mom, my dad, they were all sitting right there. That's why he said my brother and my mom's name. They were right beside him. He said, I just put a bullet in their brains and then take you out and drop you in the ocean. He said, you see all these houses around you? We've moved into them. We're constantly watching you. Jesus Christ. Obviously not true. They, they're trying to, you know, make us paranoid and scared and afraid to speak. Long story short, he was saying all these things and an orb appeared ground level behind him and he started freaking out. He could feel its energy and my dad

started laughing. He's like, turn around. You know it's there? Look at it. Turn around. You should see this. Something like that. And the guy turns around and he sees the orb. He left, he never came back, never received another death threat. So this is the reality of what we're dealing with. And I have many experiences like that where, you know, in private, these people have done such heinous and insidious things. And then I see the masses out there watching, you know, the congressional hearings and all this mumbo-jumbo put out with the government and the military. It's no different than watching the Oscars. Right.

Right. And it's just a big show. It's a big theater to convince people of a certain thing, which is fear. So do we have a little bit of time? Yeah, we do. We're good? We're good? You're not like hard cut. No, great. Good. I'm going to move into something. So to remind the listener, we had those experiences in the beginning. Then we, you know, very quickly there was a documentary out about us that made us look terrible. People in the community laughed at us, mocked us, hated us. We were just the pariahs of our town. So my family calls this the five years of darkness because for five years, we were just like shut-ins, like the total abuse from the community and everyone around us. So in 2012, which at this point, I am 18 years old, okay, 2012, I'm freshman in college. It was Easter weekend, and my sister's still in high school at the time, comes home from school crying. someone had been bullying her i saw your crazy alien dad on tv stuff like that and she comes home she's crying my dad's just sick of this he goes outside that night and he shouts to this guy you know thank you for healing me but i don't ever want to see you again i'm done with this don't ever come

around me or my family i'm never going to talk about this go away from me and the morning of Easter at 3 a.m. So that was good Friday. My sister came home and my dad was mad and he went out and did that and then it was like I guess two nights later. Three a.m. A voice says arise and he like sits up. He wakes up out of bed. It's this big booming masculine voice. I don't know if he heard it in his head or if it was audible, but it doesn't matter. And he wakes up. Clock says three. And it instructs him to get dressed and go outside. So he goes outside and there's these three eight foot tall, shiny, glowing being. in the backyard and they're like come with us they walk him through the property

and he goes through the forest in our property and he gets to a point and I'm paraphrasing there's more detail but I'm just getting to the good stuff and this massive gust of wind blows him down and as he's falling it's this bull it's this ghost bull it's ethereal it charges him and the This force of wind blows him on his back. He literally falls horizontal and the bull goes over him and through it. He can see the stars. And then he, you know, it disappears and he tries to crawl up, flip over, get on his hands and knees to stand up.

And when he does, his face is at the feet of a floating, glowing lady. That's this depiction behind me. She had a gown from her necktor, her ankles. blonde hair blue eyes and she had a triangle on her chest just like the other beings and her gown twinkled like the stars and she said you know I'm here this is your burden you have to go tell your story to the world and if you don't you're going to be like Joel the watchman

if you know that story long story short he was supposed to blow a trumpet to warn of enemy forces coming he didn't all his homies were slaughtered So the blood's on his hands. So she's telling dad, if you don't go speak, you're going to be guilty for a lot of suffering at death and, and, you know, disinformation. And she said that her name was Hathor, but that throughout time she has gone by many names and that she was the divine feminine. And she impressed upon him the concept of the mother Mary being a false copy of this concept, that the church, the powers that be, when it was forming, they took the goddess and they nerved her into a pregnant Jewish teenager, as ridiculous as that sounds.

They turned her into this 13-year-old virgin human that somehow they prayed to, you understand what I'm saying? They removed the truth of the goddess and completely changed the story there. And they suppressed the woman. They made Mary Magdalene a whore, which is nowhere in the Bible. There's no evidence of this. And in fact, it was probably the opposite. and she was Jesus' companion and priestess and equal, if you follow the Gnostic perspective.

And she said that the age of Aquarius is coming, that the powers that be here are a small group who worshiped the dark force. That's what she said. They worship the dark force. And they are using the biblical book of Revelation to, it's like a playbook to them, that they're using it as a script. to manifest a cataclysm and she said you have to tell your story to stop this that the light will win as it is written so shall it be it was written for thousands of years that the light would return to the world and it would win and it is going to play down down to the letter or play out down to the letter and that times will get tough uh you know batten down the hatches go warn

the people and wake them up and she said i'm going to help you i'm going to bring people on your path. I'm going to allow you to film them now because we couldn't film. Immediately he was getting footage. Now he has one hard drive with like 15,000 videos. That's just one of many. Yeah. And she said basically, you know, that, oh, she said there's going to be a star alignment. And when this alignment occurs that there would be a new knowledge and that the mystery of God would be revealed, that it would return to the world and that we would have a new way of living and thinking of being and that it would be a shift into a new power that there you know balance would be restored and all that good stuff so that's kind of you could see why the powers that be don't

like our story getting out because it kind of makes you smile a little bit like damn that's pretty awesome yeah yeah you know what i mean yeah i mean this is like the um well on you on one level your dad is going through like this archetype i love it this pattern that it definitely shows up in the bible because a lot of prophets or people who are being like given some kind of mission or another they never want to do it i i really like that about the bible is because the reaction people have is like fuck off jonah you know like jonah was supposed to go to i don't know nivier or something you're supposed to go to some shittl and he's like i'm not doing that and tries to get on a boat to go the other way a storm kicks up they throw him off the boat get swallowed by a whale barfed up

on the beach the point being you can't eva when you are given the burden of this kind of message your dad has your first response is exactly your dad's response which is like that's yeah i'm not doing it you're gonna take my kids away it's gonna fuck up my life no and always it's like no you don't understand you have to like this is your mission and so that's interesting that you're experiencing a modern version of a kind of old old story many of us have had this in different ways though like so many times your heart tells you to do something and you're like I'm not going to do that and then you're fucked because you didn't listen to your heart but the other thing that many of us are I'm assuming many of us have experienced people who love

psychedelics or people who have had spiritual experiences, is that message. Different versions of that message, which is like no matter how dark it might seem, no matter how insurmountable things might seem if your goal is to shift your own consciousness or to live in a world where consciousness is shifted away from blowing up kids to a more harmonious planet. it's coming and you're not you don't have to do it alone you know that's the other message is like we've done this a million times this is part of this process that happens that's the download that I always got was like this this is just part of a thing that we do by I don't know who they are but it's a thing

which is planets something can happen to a planet it gets infested with darkness and then Yes. They show up and they shift that. They always do it. They've done it forever. And now our planet's sort of been picked or something. And that they're, in fact, where it's talk about fringe. This, all this came to me.

Like, I had all these visions when I was doing ketamine. And this was one of the visions was it's like, you know, you think you're a body. You think you're a body. but you're not, you're part of this fleet that's surrounding this planet that's shifting the vibe or something. Not me, like all of us. Like, we're actually part of some kind of,

we're all part of some kind of, I don't know, fleet. My brain always translates things to sci-fi bullshit, but you can put it in whatever. And that's great that you recognize that. And I think it's important that people understand that it's not so much about the specific linguistic choice that your brain presents.

It doesn't matter if it's fleet or flock or herd or whatever. The spirit world speaks to you through telepathy and imagery and feelings and knowings. And it is going to translate through the prism of your understanding. So to you, it says a fleet. To me, it might say a crew. You know, we're all part of the same crew on a big pirate ship. You know, what, you get pirate ship? No, no, I'm just saying hypothetically.

I get more like, you know, we're all one. Me too, man. I'm a big one-piece fan. Pirateship's so much cool. We're here to eradicate the reptilian demons from your planet. We've done it for eons. Yeah, man. I think that using...

loved like chaos magic in the sense that it's sort of just saying, listen, it's language is a tool. What inspires you? What story inspires you? You can embody that story and manifest it in the world, whether it's real or not. It's not about that. It's a spirit that the words are pointing towards. And that spirit is very real. I agree.

You know, by the way, this is what I'm starting to have to talk to my. kids who are figuring out Santa Claus a fucking fraud one of my kids one of my kids is going full Alex Jones on Santa Claus right now and it's like oh no I don't want to suppress him but I got little littles man he's you know he's like fully like in front of the kids being like there's no Santa Claus it doesn't exist it's a lie it's not true it can't be true it's just a man in a suit when we went to see when we went to winter lights that was not Santa Claus it's just somebody they pay my two the two little littles their eyes are bugging out i'm like i don't know what to do here you know but that's but i have to say it's a spirit you know like see yeah i don't

know if there's a fucking santa claus i mean don't get me started on a hollow earth and a garth and all that but could be but this i keep seeing this agartha thing lately it's like popping up in so many memes i just thought it was gibberish is that like a real thing well i mean it's like you know I don't know. That's the first answer to that. I have no idea. But I think that like the, it's sort of what you were saying earlier. Like communication does happen, I think, from external sources.

For sure. A lot of the ideas you think are just your ideas. Don't be so sure. A lot of times there seems to be a signal being sent out. Certain people pick up on that signal. And that signal gets translated. in a lot of different ways and it comes into popular culture so all of a sudden like you'll see different versions of the same signal or you will have an idea for a book or a movie or an idea

you're too lazy you fucking stoner you're playing video games i'm not going to do that and then all of a sudden almost the identical movie you thought of you see a preview for it it's coming out because that signal was being put out and somebody grabbed it and brought it into default reality which I think you could compare default reality to or consensus reality or gen pop to a garden. And these ideas are seeds that get planted into the garden and they don't come from default reality. They're sent into minds to all of us. Anyone could tune into it. And then they grow.

And these flowers, when they grow into the soil of default reality, they create changes. They suddenly make people start focusing or thinking about things. The classic example, the Matrix, right? The Matrix heralded the beginning of everything we're contending with right now, with AI, what's real, what isn't real, what is consciousness, what are humans. But that Matrix idea, it's been floating around forever. It's Gnosticism. It's Gnostic myth, yeah. So, yeah, what I'm saying is Hawthor, Pirates, Spirits.

spaceship crew, Agartha, these are ways that the brain translates a certain... The other, the other, yeah. The other. So Agartha... Avalon. There you go, right? So, yeah, is it real? I think it absolutely is real in the sense that, you know, Agartha in the North Pole, believe it or not, aren't very different from one another, right? like so in the North Pole there's some kind of Santa's workshop where there's what elves you got it and what do the elves do the elves make packages for all the children and then what happens Santa Claus flies on a sleigh all around the planet distributing these gifts to all the children of the world now that is just the exact same version of the story you're telling

but you know what I mean it's Santa not Hawthor and the Hawthor is giving out you know the gift of freedom liberation renewal

you know what I mean Santa's giving out fucking I don't know Nerf guns or whatever but you know what I mean but it's still the idea is the same which is there's a realm inaccessible to most people

surrounded by terrain that most people can't get through and in that place is a sort of fountainhead from which all these beautiful things emerge and the difference being I guess is the CIA isn't like trying to suppress kids who claim they saw Santa Claus

so sort of the analogy gets tortured at one point or another but you know what I'm saying? Yeah, true. Yeah, I do. The agartha thing's definitely floating out there but what's really floating out there right now which brings us to something that I just fucking missed is Orbs. This is now really in the conversation, right? Like, first it was UAPs and then suddenly this conversation of Orbs started happening.

Why wouldn't it? People all over fucking New Jersey were seeing these fucking things. People have been seeing them all over Europe now. People have been seeing them, you know, almost the identical New Jersey drum. or whatever the fuck those things are. People have been seeing them everywhere now and also people are having personal encounters with them. And the new conversation that's emerging is,

I've been offline for a bit, so this might be musty now, but is that, and I know you'll dismiss this because it is coming from the sort of federal government intelligence agencies involvement with it, but I do like it. That somehow the feds are using people that they call psionics

to summon orbs that there's people who can put their mind in a trance state and these orbs show up and this is one of the ways that I guess they're studying them, controlling them is getting these like

MK Ultra Stranger Things people to sit in a lawn chair in the middle of the desert go into a trance state and summon orbs this is a this is relatively like new in this in the sense that it wasn't in the conversation it seems like a few years ago but your dad appears to be one of these psionics your dad appears to be well he's the psionic

and um cool i just you know what let's let's let's talk about um telepathy yeah that's what i was thinking yeah sorry it's a stupid cat yeah yeah telepathy let's talk about it i thought you were gonna um it just like i'm a dad now i'm doing bad comedy let's talk about telepathy then you just don't talk it's like it's a it's a joke that my yeah yeah my kids would be like dad that's really not funny i thought you were going to take a video of me and then put like a fart sound or something over my head or something in a clip. Josh, put a fart sound over. They were telepathically sending them to each other. No, let's talk about telepathy. That is something I've definitely experienced firsthand and

like there was a time when I had now. Yeah, it's so real. This is this is where human consciousness is headed, I believe. And it's it's been known for many thousands. of years, many, many, probably since before recorded history, all the way back to the original mystery schools, right? That the human race, human consciousness is evolving. Darwinian evolution is not the full story. As a matter of fact, that is false. The full story is, yes, life evolves, but that includes, you know, consciousness, our understanding, our knowledge, our abilities, psychic abilities, all that stuff, that is evolving as well. And our brains are evolving to reflect that.

So we know that there are a few things that happen in the brain when you regularly view dimensional phenomenon. Things like the pineal gland becoming strengthened, the caudate putamin becoming strengthened. The what? The caudate putamen, which, a funny little lake, If you know about the Cadi Putnaman, when it tends to be enlarged, there is a link between that and autism, right? Telepathy tapes. Whoa.

Okay. We have nonverbal autistic children who are fully psychic. And a good friend of mine who is a brother in the Templar, you know, he's a nice Templar. Yeah, he's a nice Templar. He likes to say, you know, for every 10 of those nonverbal children, there's one of us, like, really gifted awake humans who are also experiencing those things. And I think that's kind of the rate that some of those kids, they pop out and they're all the way on that sliding scale of like ESP,

psychic, telepathy, precognitive thought, constant communication with entities. There are people like us who can do that too, but it's like the dials way down, you know. But anyway, so a few years ago when my dad did the first History Channel bit, not the 2008 Discovery Channel thing from, you know, almost 20 years ago that tried to ruin us, but a new one, Beyond Skin Walker Ranch, they put EEG caps on his brain, they had these computers

that have these domes that measure the sky, connected to every flight database in the world through supercomputers and all this stuff, it's military tech. So we gave them hundreds of orbs over the course of six or seven days of filming. Unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown. It's ruling out Space junk, satellites, helicopters, everything. Unknown, unknown. Dad, this is where the telepathy comes in. Dad would tell them 24 hours in advance, even, down to the minute when it was going to appear. He would say, they would be like, Chris, when do we need to start filming tomorrow?

When are you feeling the bot? 7 p.m. Boom. They would appear at 7 p.m. or 701 or something like that. Well, how does your dad explain that? Like, how does he know? I'll tell you what they make. measured in his brain, and I'll tell you how he explains it to me, being his son growing up with him.

This episode of the DTFH has been brought to you by my friends over at Blue Chew. Listen, sometimes these holiday parties get a little weird. Maybe, I don't know, you've indebted. indulge too much, too many chardonnays. And you realize, even though you met this super hot Christmas girl, yeah, sure, she's your brother's fiancee, but whatever, it's Christmas. Things are different on Christmas. But you feel weird about the fact that maybe you shouldn't hump your brother's fiance on Christmas Eve. Seems kind of wrong. Even though you know this is Christmas, you have read Polar Express.

You still hear the bell. But the problem is your bell's not ringing anymore. And that, friends, is where Blue Chew comes in. Bottom line, I use these things. I'm not ashamed to admit it. Are you kidding me? I'm in my 50s now, guys. What am I going to do?

Both my parents are dead. I still have unresolved grief issues. It's not like I could just instantly get super fucking hard like I used to in high school when I was less aware of death. Need help. I love them. Thank God they exist.

Blue Chew's the original brand offering chewable tablets for better sex. We've got a special deal for our listeners. As always, get your first month of Blue Chew free. Just one promo code, Dunkin at checkout and pay five bucks for shipping. That's it. Join Bluechew's mission to upgrade humanity, one thrust at a time. Head to BluChu.com for details and safety info. And big thanks to Bluchu for sponsoring the podcast. We thank you.

Don't hump your brother's fiance. I don't know why I use that as an example. Ask him first. Thank you, Blue Chew. So they're like, all right, Chris, you know, call them in. They're filming for TV. He does his thing. He prays.

Of course, that part gets cut out. It always gets cut out. Everyone cuts it out for some reason. What is the prayer? I mean, it's just pray. Hey, you know, Holy Spirit, please let's show them so that their eyes can be opened and that they can see. Whatever. It's genuine.

and it's there's no formula it's not a ritual it's just communication um from the heart god whatever connection so they start appearing and the neuroscientist that they flew out from new york from this prestigious university um that they contracted to work the machine live while they're filming it the data he got was that his brain is completely shutting down into a very deep theta alpha a state that you would see typical in a master Zen Buddhist monk who's been training their entire lives to reach this state. My dad is none of that training. He's not, it's just natural for him. So his brain shuts down into like Zen transcendental complete relaxation. And then the language center and the prefrontal cortex on his brain starts lighting up. So when he's

communicating with these orbs, the part of his brain, that works when you are in conversation or reading, that is the only part of his whole fucking brain that's active. Wow, that's so cool. That's so cool. So he's actually in telepathic communication with these orbs. But he's putting himself in a trance state first. Like he's putting himself in a state of like pure mindfulness, pure awareness or something.

Yeah, but he's just doesn't, he's not doing like, okay, now I'm going to go into a trance. Like, it just happens. You know what I mean? He doesn't have classical training in how to reach these Zen states. It's just his brain is different. And this is possible in all of us, which is why I love the Monroe Institute so much. And I gave myself up to being committed to them and becoming a trainer with them because this is like the best place in the world to learn the tools to reach these states.

That's why I'm so passionate about their work. Did I ever tell you what happened to me with the Robert Monroe tapes, what happened to me as a kid? No. Uh-uh. My mom's a psychologist, and, you know, she had these weird fucking tapes. And so she had Robert Menro's, emmy-sync tapes. It was Robert Monroe, some kind of out-of-body experience tapes. I had no idea what the Monroe Institute was.

No, I don't think she did. I don't know where she got these tapes. But I snatched him from a room, started listening to them up in my bedroom on a Walkman at night. you know because of course I wanted to have an out-of-body experience and um nothing was happening I would just fall asleep listening to them you know but I still remember them I'm just it was like I still remember it's like the instructions how relaxed my body would get then I just fall asleep well yeah one day I woke up and I'm sorry everyone who's heard me tell this story before. I woke up. I have it. I woke up in my fan of my bedroom fan was in my

face. Yeah. And like, dude, it was awful. So you were out of body. I thought I had it. I thought I was having an acid flashback because I was doing so much acid back then in high school. And then I turn and look and see myself sleeping, just freak the fuck out, try to go back into my body, go through my body underneath the bed and then woke up and like holy shit those tapes fucking work and then i had after that a few more out-of-body experiences never i could never do the thing i've heard that people who go to the monroe institute they can do they can you can just do it like you can come out will it will i could never do that it was always out of wake up No. Duncan, you're right there, man. Once you just described as like peak level out of body experience, you don't need to minimize it as coming from someone who's at the Monroe Institute and is now a trainer with them. Like that, that is like classic. You did it. Like applause. You achieved it.

Thank you so much. I didn't like it. And like, and I would also get those vibrations. Like that that was the like energy pulsing through my body. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. like you're very none of it pleasant at least for me like all of it's scary a sense of an ominous presence around me uh always in fact like when they were happening i would keep telling myself next time i'm not going to be afraid next time i will not be afraid and every time it was like fuck this and back in the back in the old safe old meat sack

and you know a consistent gravity with them which was always interesting to me like if there's gravity but it's not as much so the you know

the thing of like trying to go through a wall or something and like the just the resistance the way everything felt different the way I could get myself

to sort of fly but only somehow by not thinking about flying could i fly and the moment i started thinking about it i would go down like an opposite navigation technique or that made no sense and then they just stopped because too much fluoride or whatever i don't know calcified the old pineal gland now i can't do it anymore but yeah there's very very few people in the world if any who can just say i want to go out of right now and poof that's that's not how it's like what you described you do the work you do all this preparation all of this meditation and all this training and then it just you just kind of ease into it see you think of the the um the levels of consciousness as a radio dial it's a spectrum and you can

go all the way up and down the spectrum as much as like seeing multiple you know bilocation or trial location, all of a sudden, boom, you're in France, or you pop out of your body and you hit the chandelier. There's no one thing. You could see yourself from behind. I've seen that a few times. How often do you come out of your body? Honestly, I would say probably, so I went to the Monroe Stoop for the first time last summer. Long story short, they invited me to come as a content creator and I hit it off with them and my family's already you know been connected with them and film documentaries with them and stuff anyway and then I just had a mac for a passion for it and they're like you want to be a trainer it's a year of school starts next month I'm like absolutely

and started that path since then I mean shit at least a dozen yeah do you like it when it happens or it's scary at first like you said that's true for everybody if it wasn't you you're a freak if it's like not scary and I'm kidding when I don't want to no but how would that not be scary it should no exactly how it's like skydiving like oh don't worry it's going to be fine you're not going to be scared just jump like no it's scary but um DMT scary you know what I mean yeah scary doesn't mean bad scary doesn't mean evil right you know but yeah it was terrifying and I actually wrote in my journal next time I will not be afraid I will see without fear that's so cool yeah yeah Because that's what it's like.

You're like, next time I'm this next time I'll like stay out a little bit longer. Next time I'll stay out. I could never really pull it. I could never, never a long time out of that thing, man. I always go. I regret. Now I feel like I would be less afraid. But then, um, no.

You, you probably would. And it depends on the intention you set the knowledge you have, which is that you are an immortal being of infinite energy and no outside force can overcome him without your consent. Say that again, started a mortal being. you are an immortal being of infinite energy and no outside force can overcome you without your consent right um that it's just like jesus said you have power and dominion over spirits there's nothing out there and and when you do the monroe institute techniques they teach you all kinds

of energetic uh shield practices and stuff like that to prep you into going into these states it's a really amazing system i'm doing one with christina you are more than welcome to join it's two days you're going to the institute no i'm coming to her house and i'm doing a program as the trainer for her and whoever of you i listen i want to join that date you gave me is right around when the baby comes so there's a there's no fucking way i'm going to be able to tell my wife i'm going to go we'll do another one we'll do a different one but if there's no baby i i i all i could say is i'll try man this whole you know i've got an orb my wife has an orb right now in her inner belly yeah oh mine too that's so you're doing the training and what does that involve like

how does that work when you're training people i'm i'm doing the program i'm administering the tapes educating on the techniques and the practices and facilitating experiences that's so cool do you feel like the him you think that's necessary every time or is that just sort of no no no no the magic is in your brain right um and you know you have to think about like do you remember that story that you always tell where meme i think it was corolli baba and he doesn't even need the acid you know what i mean yeah to have the crazy you know yeah he ticks the acid and didn't affect him it's kind of like that that the hemisink is just training wheels it's just helping your brain shift into a brain wave pattern that is natural and is a part of your physiology and your amazing birthright to go into

these states of consciousness. You know, a thousand years ago, they didn't have hemisink. They sat by waterfalls in Tibet or whatever. Right. And they would go, oh, and they'd have drum circles and all this stuff. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just entrainment.

And the technicians at the Monroe Institute figured out the right combination of sound waves to tickle the brain into that perfect little spot. Wow. I mean, it's sleep paralysis, isn't it? I mean, aren't you basically just inducing sleep paralysis?

I mean, that was the other thing I didn't like about it. Not quite. I couldn't move. I would wake up, not be able to move, and then out. You know,

but it's the sleep paralysis part I didn't like. It's not sleep paralysis. You're in complete control. And when you do it the way that it's, you know, it's one thing to just go listen to the tapes. you know when you do programs you have like eight hours a day of education and knowledge and you're learning how to like do techniques to like ground yourself back in your body you know it just

requires the proper uh preparation what it's it's not what's the vibration though what what's the explanation for why your body feels like it's like laying on top of a vibrator well um i don't think that they have any sort of specific explanation for that but my take on this is that it's symptomatic of like kundalini awakening type experiences that when when you're you know you're moving consciousness and shifting into higher states that there are symptoms that occur in the body like ringing in the ears vibration i feel a lot of vibrations in my third eye a lot like it's pulsing out of my head i'm sure you probably get that a lot too you feel anything in your third eye sometimes i told you this shit is calcified it is

you ever see like a oh if you ever been like taking a shit in a public rastream you look over some calloused foot in a in a burkenstock shit next to you you know and you see that foot and it's just impossibly callous brittle dry this poor thing up there it's just it's done it's done so no i don't get it anymore like i said i i i'm i'm very earth realm now these days you know what i mean yeah that's why i can't see the orbs that in this this i want to can't can't or won't let's get to the thing i fucking missed man you went awesome to christina for his Disky's house a few days ago.

Yeah. You know, we go ahead. Go ahead. Just tell the story, please. I'll go ahead. I just don't want to hear this story, man. We started the show, and I was going to tell the story, and then I got derailed for an hour and a half, and it's just been amazing.

No, you didn't get derailed. I derailed you. I'm sure. I'm sorry. I'm not exactly like it. I would never be able to be on 60 minutes. an interviewer but oh me either but tell me so I was supposed to go I fucked up and forgot this was what we call a baby moon which is basically when your wife's about to pop you try to get her

some sleep before the baby it's a way for pregnancy to relax before they have to like squeeze a baby out of their vagina and all the things that follow that and so I couldn't come and so you went to Christina's house and yeah this is a full circle moment because she first ever reached out to me two years ago when I was on your show the first time and then some things went down in her life and she just for whatever reason put you know put all this weird stuff on the back burner and I didn't hear from her for a while I sent her a couple messages and I understand how you know people are busy and it's just you know that people will come around if it's meant to be and Didn't hear from her for a long time, but long story short, a couple months ago, my dad was brought up on Rogan by the singer from the Red Clay Strays.

And I had this feeling of my gut, like, I got to do something about this. There's like some momentum happening. I've got to reach out to some people. So I had spoke to you on Twitter. I reached out to Tripoli. And then I thought about it. And I was like, wait a minute. Christina Pisitsky messaged me two years ago.

What do I have to lose? So I messaged her on Instagram and she was just like, holy shit, oh man, blah, blah, blah, blah, here's my number. And we just became fast friends and she's just been this amazing, lovely human being. What if this was someone in your family that had a chronic illness that they could not get away from? Millions of Americans live with a disease that has no cure. And I was diagnosed with a rare form of sarcoma. The most immediate findings indicated that I should lose my leg.

It ended up taking four clinical trials in 25 years to get me to this point. Cures are within reach if we invest in funding for life-saving medical research that's needed to find them. Even if they're unsuccessful in my treatment that they will have learned from my treatment that will be able to allow others to stand on my shoulders to be able to be helped. Join the fight for cures. Tell your elected representatives to support American medical research. Visit United for cures.org slash action to send a letter today. Paid for by United for Cures Action.

One ice coffee? 99 cents, please. For real? No way. Mmm. One ice coffee? 99 cents, please. For real? No way.

Hmm. What a deal. Your new morning groove. Ice coffee from McDonald's, any size for just 99 cents till 11 a.m. Price and participation may vary cannot be combined with any other offer. She is. She's an angel. And I just like, I was like, I don't care what it takes.

Like, I just want to skywatch with you. And she was like, I'll come to you. I'll come to you. And I was like, no, you know, after thinking about it, I really have wanted to go to Austin. Duncan is there. and, you know, I'd love to see the mother show. I was like, I'll fly to you. I don't, whatever.

We picked the date. Now back to what actually happened, right? I just wanted the context of how this came to be. So I get there and it was really nice, really sweet. The first night we got together and it was just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Just old friends that who've never met in person, just, boom, just connect. She's really sharp with this shit.

I'm telling you right now, she is very sharp with this shit. She's brilliant. She got us tickets to the mothership. So the first night we didn't skywatch, we went there. We went and saw up the mic night. And then we came back the second night. And she rented a bus. You should have seen it.

It was like a big party bus. Wow. Sailing and everything. And obviously Tom came. Sarah Weinshank, very lovely human. Her friends, Philip and Margarita. her hairdresser and very nice guy Alan and then their driver Solomon and I pray I didn't miss anybody and then I had a couple people too no he couldn't make it bummer he had to fly to Hawaii um but I did

get to meet him at the mothership and it was really cool he's a very nice guy he took care of us and it was just very humbling and um I'm grateful grateful for that but anyway so and then my sister her husband, my buddy Cameron Meisel, who's a very good friend, and I need to talk to you about that because he does this virtual reality thing that I think. Really? Cool. Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about that.

And then my wife, we came as well. So I had people and then they had people. So it was, I don't know, 10, 15 people. And yeah, we saw like 20 orbs. It's not quite the experience that I'm used to, like a party. situation. I'm usually on the beach with like 400 people. Where did you guys go? Just around Austin, a couple of, yeah, and that too. Like it's not really like, you must have gone out the country, right? Did you go? No, we went to the top of this little peak away from, you know,

downtown Austin. And then we went to like a middle school. Wow. With a dark field. So it wasn't like the most amazing dark sky kind of conditions, but despite that, we still saw like 20 orbs. There were streaks, there were flashes, but the most mind-blowing thing, Duncan, and why I wanted to bring up telepathy was to segue into this, was because something that my dad did, which was fucking incredible. And I've seen this a thousand times, which I was explaining, he can, you know, sometimes predict it down to the minute. I've seen him do that in front of a crowd of a thousand people with a microphone.

A contact in the desert. We did a skywatch with a thousand people. And he said, 935, there's going to be a triangle shape formation of orbs appear. And boom, 935 or whatever the time was, three orbs appear. I've seen it a thousand times. So dad said when you get out there, call me and I want to say something to the group. So I was like, okay.

So we get out there and I call my dad and I put him on speaker and I'm like, Dad, what do you want to say to the group? and he said off the top of my head look to the west northwest and then he was just talking for a few minutes

for the next hour we only saw I brought up my iPhone compass and found the west precisely on the tip of the needle that's pointing west there was this orb

that kept appearing to the west and it would move in different directions and then it would disappear and then it would come back and then it would disappear. disappear. I had my phone with a satellite tracking app. I tracked the very first one, and it wasn't a satellite. I was like, you guys see this? You got it? We're past that? Good. And then I didn't, you know, do it anymore. And it was just, boom, it kept appearing in the West,

disappear, appearing in the West, disappeared. So visually what we saw was not so spectacular other than streaks and flashes. It was these white lights up here in the sky, disappear. But it was the concept that I called him. He has no clue where we're facing. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm a thousand miles away. And he says, look to the west. Wow.

We were already facing the west. He didn't know that. And boom, they're peering perfectly to the west. So, and that's it in a nutshell. That's what happened. That is so cool and so funny, a party bus. That is, look, man, next time I want to be there. And like, I do, I don't.

I don't, I believe these things. I don't, I, I know they're real. I've, I've, so many friends who have seen them, some friends who, like, are not as talented as your dad, but I think, like, there's more. This is natural. Anybody can do this. And it doesn't matter where you are. That's the thing, like, you know, whenever I'm in my backyard, I'm like, okay, so if I call

an orb, they're not going to show up anyway, because it's like, they don't want to alert the neighbors. Yeah, that they don't want to scare anybody. Right. So consider this, right? Back to the psionic assets. The difference between what's happening with us and then the government story is ours. I told you the other day in the group chat.

And I know there's a lot going on in there. But I was like explaining to you guys that the CIA warned my father, don't encourage mass prayer. Don't encourage people to connect. So how did he finish his book? You know, just go outside, say God or the universe, whatever. I'm here. I'd love to see. We get thousands and thousands and thousands of messages of people saying, holy shit, it worked. Or they hear the podcast and I'll say out loud, you know, something like that. And they hear it and they go try it. Oh, my God, it worked. Everyone I've ever met that earnestly wants to see this.

They see it. And then they go and they continue to see it. Right. It's for everybody. Our whole thing is to empower everybody to do this and to not be afraid of this and to understand what it is. They're not hurting us. They're not harming us. And in fact, many cancers have been healed and uncurable diseases and things like that. The government's message is you have to be this fucked up traumatized asset and listen to these headphones and meditate to this sound. And you have to engage in psionic warfare with these things. Yeah.

Make them have dogs. It's not for everybody. It's for the few fucked up assets that, you know, pop up out of nowhere. Right. Because by saying that it's like complex. What does it do? It makes people think, okay, well, I'm not a psionic asset.

I'm not going to, like, sit and wire. I don't have a machine to wire up to you. My nose isn't going to bleed. I wasn't dragged out of my house when I was a kid and tortured for years so that I have trauma and therefore can summon warbs. They're all theater kids with security clearances acting a script.

They're acting a script. That's the cruelest thing. ever heard. I mean, you're definitely going to have to go into hiding now. Yes. I promise you what you just said is going to piss them off way more than any, any security. Theater kids with security clearance.

That is brutal. It is what it is, man. That is amazing. That is the best assessment I've ever heard. It's a show, man. Shakespeare said it best. The world is a stage. It's a show. The world is a better stage because the bled soes are on it. Thank you so much for coming on the show, Ryan. And, man, I am so sorry I missed this event.

I will be at anything that I can get to, man. I can't wait to meet you in person. Duncan, just like I personally came for Christina, if we can set something up, I would personally come just to do this with you. I would be so grateful. Let's do it. Let's do it. I have a baby in March. we're on the same baby time so we'll figure that out that means we're on the same fucking time that's that's the possibility we were probably humping at the same time right yeah within days of each other what a great way to wrap up the show um hey man thank you and by the way tell people where they can find you um bletzer said so is our show my podcast incredible podcast incredible podcast Thank you very much. Duncan has blessed me and appeared on there before, and it was a huge highlight for us.

I would love to do that again whenever you have time. Yeah, I can make that work. Okay, cool. So Bledso-Senseo, YouTube, Instagram, we have our website, bledso.com, and then I am building, so it's not out yet, but I already have the domain name. In time, as people are hearing this, just check if it's out. If it's not, I'm sorry, it's the holidays, it's crazy. but I'm building a website Ryan Bledsoo official.com, which will be used to, you know, book my Monroe programs in the future. Cool, man. Okay, great.

Awesome. Well, look, maybe I can make it out to the training you're going to do. I'd love to start coming out of my body again. This old thing's getting old. Be nice to have a break from this old stinky thing. Yeah, dust it off. Thank you, Ryan. You're the best, man.

Thank you. That was Ryan Bledsoe, everybody. All the links you need to find, Ryan, are going to be. down there. Thank you so much for listening. And if you use any of the techniques that we talked about and actually encounter orbs, hit me up on the socials. I want to hear your story. Thank you guys for listening. I'll see you next week. Until then, bon voyage.