Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 747: Brad Williams

Episode Date: April 19, 2026

Brad Williams, hilarious, mega-famous comedian and genuine Cirque du Soleil performer, joins the DTFH!Check out Brad's comedy special, Starfish! Available to stream for free right now on YouTube. You can learn more about Brad, and see his upcoming tour dates, on his site: BradWilliamsComedy.com.Florida family! Duncan is coming to the Jacksonville Comedy Zone, April 23-25. Click here to get your tickets now! Thank you, and we love you!!This episode is brought to you by: Go to Quince.com/Duncan for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns! Secure your online data TODAY by visiting ExpressVPN.com/Duncan and get an extra FOUR MONTHS of VPN coverage when you sign up! Amentara has a new offer for DTFH listeners! Visit Amentara.com/go/Duncan and use code DUNCAN22 for 22% off your first order!

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Brad Williams was the headliner comic on a run of Cirque de Soleil shows and hearing Brad Williams talk about what it's like

to open up in front of a Cirque de Soleil audience in Vegas a few days after your dad died is one of the most poignant hilarious stories I've ever heard on the podcast. He's a brilliant, wonderful person.

If you want to connect to him, go to bradwilliamscom.com. He's got an awesome podcast called Height and Babbel. Also, he is a road dog. He works hard out there. He tours, and you definitely should go see him live if he's coming to your city. I'm talking to you, Edmonton. He's going be at the River Creek Casino. Calgary is going to be the Great Eagle Resort and Casino. Vancouver at the Vogue Theater. All his dates are at brad Williamscomedy. Now everybody, welcome Brad Williams to the DTFH.

Brad, welcome to the DTFH, man. I was so excited when your manager hit me up. Yeah, man. You are someone where when I see you out and I see you either at the clubs or at a festival when I saw you at Skank Fest, it's just like I don't care what mood I'm in, if I sit down and talk to you, I'm not saying I'm going to be in a better mood, but I'm going to be changed. I had seen as a nicest, cruelest thing anyone said to me?

I'm going to be changed. My mood, my feeling, my being will be going one way. I will meet Duncan Tressel. It will go a different way. I don't know. Like I said, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it's an experience. Well, man, I'm glad that we finally get some. real time to talk.

Yeah. You know, because it's always like in the passing. Yeah. Like doing, Hey, you have spots tonight? Okay,

where you're going up at? Yeah. Like the normal sort of comedian small talk. Drift by each other every once in a while as we like go through our weird jobs. Like I just found out you have two kids that I didn't know existed. Exactly. Exactly. You have four now.

Four kids. I have one six year old. Yeah. And so my sister and I were 15 months apart. When my daughter got to be 15. months. I'm like, how the hell did my parents do this again? Yeah. At this time. Yeah. And you have four about my daughter's age. We span, you know, we span it out by a few years. So, you know, we're not doing like the farmer's style breeding where you're just like right when the baby comes

out. You're like, let's fuck. It's time to get you pregnant again. We don't do that. So how are you like him being a dad? Dude, I love it. It's stressful. I don't love everything about it because there are things, you know, like your freedom. Like, and you and I were talking before the mics came on the air about the little things from our pre-dad days that we like try to hold on to, you know. But there, but that's, it is a different mindset when you wake up in the morning and you go, oh, I'm not living for me. Right.

I'm living for someone else. Yeah. Truly. Because you could say you love your wife, you love your partner or whatever, and you live for them. You don't really live for them because if you left, they're fine. If daddy leaves, kids, they're like, and especially if mommy leaves, oh my God, but, you know, they're screwed. So it's like, you truly are living and every decision I'm making now is not just like, it's not, hey, if I make this joke, will it help my career?

It's if I make this joke, will it help my career? And also, will it send my child into a downward spiral that they will never recover from. Right. You've got to think about that. I do. Yeah, I think about that all the time because I've been podcasting forever. I mean, there's like years of their dad rambling about weird shit that they're going to tune into. And I don't know what I'm going to do.

I can't wait for, because you said your oldest is seven. Yeah. I can't wait for your kid to start doing like school projects and come home and say like, I got to do this report about American history. And then you kind of go, let me tell you the real history. You want to know what happened. Boy, sit down. I'll tell you what.

to happen mud flood kiddo the entire country's 120 years old the entire planet is we've been reset tar tarario boy i don't believe what they does can you turn my um my head i can't wait for this dude i i would please not not in a creepy way but live stream your kids oral reports please just because i want to know what the influence because like i'm assuming that i'm going to like when my daughter has to do oral reports or reports in school. I'm going to throw in some one-liners. Of course. I'm going to throw in some stuff where it's like, that's Brad, that's Brad Williams kid right there. You're going to be able to know. I can only imagine

Duncan Dressel's kids. We've already been doing it. Like when he's got to do little drawings and stuff. You think that's a star? Let me tell you. You want to see a real star. I got to ask you, and this question kind of sucks because it's like a press tour style question. You and I are friends.

Okay. Okay, great. Well, no, I just mean it's going to seem generic, which is Sure. Dude, you headline Cirque de Soleil. Yeah. Holy shit. I did. Yeah, Cirque de Soleil.

How did that happen? So it was... So the show is still going on. I was there for the first three months. Mad Apple. Matt Apple at New York, New York, Hotel and Casino. Go watch it. It's a great show.

But they came to me and said, the guy that ran the show who started the show he said he was trying to start a Cirque de Soleil show and he wanted a stand-up comic and someone sent him a tape of me and he goes okay that's that's that's the line

where we have to meet it and then he saw a bunch of other tapes of other comedians and went nope let's go back to the first one and hired me and when you get a call like that, like, hey, Cirque de Soleil wants you, and you're like, to do what? Yeah.

Because I'm thinking, like, what suit are you putting me in? What trampoline am I bouncing off of? What cannon am I being fired out of? Scary. Am I going to be going into a pool? Are you playing a droplet sound when I land? Like, is that happening? Like, what is, what is this?

And then they're like, no, we just want you to do you. We just want you to do you. We just want you to do stand up. Yeah. Run out there. Start the show, do stand up, and then you'll do another five, seven minutes in the end. It'll be like 17 minutes total.

And you're good. And I'm like, and one of my content restrictions. They're like, we're not the comedian. You're the comedian. Which is the best thing for a comedian to hear. Yeah, for sure. Because very few things are more annoying to a comedian than an unfunny person telling us how to be funny.

Oh, my God. The worst. The worst. We're going to be a club owner, radio station personality, someone else in the industry, like, well, what you got to do? And you're like, shut up. You've never told a funny joke in your life. You've never been on stage.

There's a buddy Hackett quote that I love, and I'm probably going to get it wrong, which I love it, but the quote was, never trust anyone who never walked the last 10 feet. Wow. Or never trust anyone who's never entered through the kitchen. Wow.

Because comedians, we've walked that last 10 feet. Performer, musician, whatever. They've walked that last 10 feet. They've gotten up on that stage. We've entered through kitchens. We've done it. We've done the whole thing to build. So we know what it is to get where we are.

So when someone outside of it says something, you're just like, you never entered through a kitchen. I know. That's such a great. The last it, oh my God. You've never sat on a sack of fucking potatoes as your green room. You don't know what that's like. You've never done a show at a cat cafe with different cats around.

And you're like, I have to be funnier than kittens, than kittens playing with toys. It's not happening. You did a show at a cat cafe. cafe? Yeah, in like Pasadena or something. Oh my God. Dude, every, every comedian has these stories. We would drive, you know, 300 miles to do an open mic or, you know, for no money. So it's like, now when I hear certain young comics, like, not willing to do that kind of work and saying, oh, I'll, I'll just go on and kill Tony. Right. And I'll, it's like, first of all, get in line.

There's, you know, hundreds of people every night trying to do it. Then you have to kill with one minute. Then you have to kill the interview, which is a whole another thing, a whole different skill. And then let's say all that goes well for you. Let's say all that goes well. And it has gone well for quite a few comedians. Sure. Now, you have to tour. Do you have more than one minute?

Because you can't do one minute on stage. And for the comedians that have come from Kill Tony, you're Fiona Collies, you're Aaron Belowles, and there's many others that have actually done it and done it well. Well done. I'm so happy for them. Wow, that was a ramb.

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We all have stories about the first time You saw stand up And like how hard it hit And just like Eddie Murphy Raw Bill Cosby Yeah We didn't know then

I didn't know I was a kid kid I had no idea It was drugging people Allegedly But I am My whole life goal Is that

Years in the future Or at any point No one goes You know one of my favorite comics Was Brad Williams Before the Before, before, before we found out he's a serial killer. Oh, fucking time.

That's my whole life goal is just to be like, you don't want anyone to be like, oh, you know, who's your dad? And your kids go, Duncan Tressel. Out, I didn't know about the heads in the cooler. I didn't know about that. I ordered them all right. I ordered them from the Chinese distributor of heads. Dude, but what you're pointing towards is that there's this entire, I don't want to say secret, but there's this entire experience of being a comedian that you can't know.

Can't know. Read all the books, take all the classes, do whatever you want, listen to every podcast, and you still won't get this. And I don't know what it is. I don't know what to call it. Yeah. This Junice, Cue. It's the backrooms of comedy.

It's like the liminal spaces you go into, the hotel hallways, the zillions of fucking airports, just the weird existential emptiness that can sweep over you as you're like go. You don't even know. You'll wake up and like be uncertain of what city you're in, not because you're drunk, but just because you haven't traveled. Yeah, the feeling of killing and destroying and being the man or the woman or whatever. and then going back to that lonely hotel room and going, I'm still amped. That will, few things, you could never be truly prepared for that until you do it. That's right.

So, never trust someone who's never walked the last 10 feet. So when they gave me full carte blanche to do whatever I wanted, it was a challenge because I realized being a comedian for Circta Soleil, when I go on stage for my shows, everyone's there to see me. They're there to see stand-up comedy. They're there. They have an idea of what stand-up is. They have a rhythm in their head of how this is going to be.

When people go to see Cirque de Soleil, they want actors flying out of canons going, wee, we, like, they want that. That's what they're expecting. So that's what I'm walking out to. So it was almost, like, even at the time I was 18 years into comedy, it was almost like going back to open mics where the audience is not there for me. No. So I have to win them over. And in many cases, Cirque de Soleil, they don't even speak English because they're like, oh, they're tourists and they want to just.

see an acrobatic show where they don't have to worry about language. Dude, okay. Sometimes I fantasize about a, like, if, I don't know, the holodeck or whatever, like, if we had a holodeck for stand-up comedy. Oh, wow. So you could, you could, you know, if you're feeling down, you could dial in one of those perfect, like, laughing gas crowds, they laugh at everything. Even things they probably aren't even funny.

You know, the kind of hot tub crowd where you're like, thank Jesus these exist. Right. And then there's like, you know, the original room crowd, which is, you know, you don't know what you're going to get. I don't know what you're going to get. And those are just, that's a good way to test your material to really know what's funny and what's not. You're not in front of people who came to see you. And that's how you tighten up. And then there's like, you just want to, you want to put it on like the hardest level possible.

So like. Sports bar open mic. Warming up. That is, that is, that is the final boss of stand-up comedy. that you start with. I was going to say opening for Hitler. Well, at least those people are here to see a speech. Right.

At least they appreciate public speeches. Yeah, they're there. They're there. They're there. See someone talking to a microphone. Yeah. But like sports bar open mic was always like so hard for me because it's literally, there's a sports bar.

Right. There's a game on. Right. All of a sudden TV goes off. Drunk guy in a jersey is angry. and they're like, now we start the comedy show. Oh, dude. Who came out with that?

Someone who hated sports. Sato masochist. Just a horrible. And when I came up, I came up like in the early 2000s. And I came up in L.A. where, you know, I grew up Orange County. So oftentimes the Lakers were on a run. They were winning championships back then.

That was Shack and Kobe. So like they would turn off Laker games where guys would be furious. I know you're wearing a Spurs hat. Don't worry. You guys are a great team. Duncan's like, sports. How do you know me so well?

Did you see what I just did? Did you see me just immediately? Shut down. Just shut down. Your nervous system was like, I'm not being included. I'm not here anymore. But like they were doing really well. So turning those games off really got the crowd in a really bad mood. And now it's like, but you survive that.

And now nothing scares me. Right. Now I don't like so. But then Cirque to Sle. Yeah. So now I'm normally going on after a. comedian who's setting them up and even if it's bad comedy it's at least getting into the rhythm

of comedy. Now I'm going after two guys that are literally juggling each other with their feet. It's called the Ikerian games. That's the name of the act and I'm like, okay, okay. So I got to go on after that. It's a nightmare. It sounds like a nightmare. It sounds like you wake up sweating like Jesus fucking Christ. I follow

these feet jugglers. And then here's one more wrinkly. to throw into it as if it didn't need anymore. I am two weeks away from debuting and my father passes away. We knew it was common, but still it never prepares you. And I was like, oh my God. And I've got to deal with that. The crew was very cool. They let me skip rehearsals and just like go and deal and be. And this is before they really knew me. They've just met me and we handle it and then it's like, I didn't

just do Cirque de Soleil in my backyard and then sleep in my bed. I had to move to Vegas. I didn't move to Vegas. So I fly home. We handle everything with my dad and going through it grieving and then it's like oh shit, I gotta go to work. And I hear my dad's voice going, do it pussy. Like go out there. He'd want me to go

perform. Like don't miss this opportunity to grieve me or whatever. And it was the most healing, wonderful thing. A, because I got to work, B, because it's in an ensemble. Being a comedian, we talk about the things that you can never really learn in a comedy class. Being lonely from being a comedian is something no one really dives into because you think, yeah, what do you mean lonely?

You're on stage. You're the star of the show. You're surrounded by people who love you. There's a loneliness in being a comedian, especially when you're a road dog where you're constantly by yourself. I got to be part of a cast, an ensemble. And everyone knew my dad had passed. Everyone knew I was still, I was powering through it. So that, to be around people that were supportive and to be there and to give me a hug afterward and to say great job, that was incredible. I cannot tell you, there is a comedian who was also in the show. He ended up

He ended up last year, so cool, getting second place on America's Got Talent, which is actually the place you want to get. You don't want to win. You want to get second. Why? Because if you win, you're in a contract. Oh, wow. If you lose, you got all the press, but you're free. Wow.

So he actually, he won, essentially. His name's Chris Turner. He is a freestyle rapper. He does comedic freestyle raps, but he's British, and he's a white guy. It's insane. Whoa. He's so good at it. Can you freestyle rap?

Hell no. Nothing. You could give me a month to write a rap. It wouldn't be as good as this guy. And he and I really became really good friends because we were the comedians of the show. Yeah. And we really bonded and he was really there for me. And so then you go out and you do a show at Cirque de Soleil and stuff happens.

Okay. Like stuff happens at a comedy show. Maybe the mic doesn't work. Maybe the DJ sets off a track during your set. There's a fight. There's a waitress. Fire alarm. Oh, God, that's happened to me.

Me too. Okay, fire alarm. Phoenix, stand up live. Fire alarm happened. It was going on throughout the entire mall. I thought it was going to be like three minutes or two minutes and then stop. It kept going. And I'm like, this was early in my set.

So I look at the audience that night and I go, all right, do you want to end? the show, do we want to wait for God knows how long, or do we want to make a fucking memory? Yeah. And they go, memory. And I go, okay. So I'm doing the show as the fire alarm is going off. I'm timing my punchlines in between the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I'm like, okay, and do the punch line now.

Like, and do, and do that. The most math in my head I was ever doing while on stage. So yeah, I've fought through fire alarms. I've fought through sports bars. So we were doing my second segment of the Matt Apple show. I go on after a guy who's performing in something called the Wheel of Death. The Wheel of Death is essentially a giant hamster wheel. And it spins around like on a trebushet or something without launching.

And then he's inside the hamster wheel while it's spinning around. And then he gets out of the hamster wheel. He gets on top of the hamster wheel. He jumps rope. on top of the hamster wheel. It's insane. It's insane. Yeah.

And we had a guy named at the time. It's a different guy now, but his name was Jose at the time. And then he's doing it, and I go on right after him. And he, there's a trick where he gets off the wheel, and then the wheel spins around, and then he reaches back and grabs it, and then it flings him up on top of the wheel. It's unbelievable. And this night it flung him, but he let go.

so Jose flies in the air about 10, 15 feet oh no splat on the stage immediately there's signs that we do that mean hey something happened people run out

they run to him he gets up they're walking him off the stage I just saw my friend do that I have no idea how he is and then they're looking at me like, and you're on now. Holy fuck.

Fuck that. So I go to the microphone and I say, hey everybody, Jose, amazing. It's called the wheel of death for a reason. It's not called the wheel of, that was nice. It's the wheel of freaking death.

How about a round of applause for Jose? And I go, man, Jose in the wheel of death. Mexicans really do do all the jobs that we don't want to do. Kills in the room, and we're back. And then we continue on with the show. And then I come back, check on Jose. He's okay.

He's great. And he performed the next night. But it was wild. There was one time where the lighting system completely malfunctioned and went down. And it takes about 10 minutes to restart it. Okay. So it goes, mid-show. just down.

Yeah. And then they go, okay, we got to restart the lighting thing. Yeah. And then it's an empty stage. And I go, why is there an empty stage? And they're like, well, because you have to restart the lighting thing. I go, do the mic still work?

And I'm like, yeah, the audio still works. I go, give me a fucking microphone. Wow. So I take the microphone. I run out on stage. There's one spotlight goes on me and I go, this is normal. This is what we do.

Yeah. It's one of the best parts about being a comedian where all I need is a working microphone. I don't need an amp. I don't need a smoke machine. I don't need a fuck. I just need a mic. Yeah.

So I go out there. I do about 10, 12 minutes of comedy. We get the sign that the lighting thing is back on. And I go, okay, you're ready for more show? All right. And I get the crowd cheering again. And then I walk off stage. There is a Russian hand balancer who is sitting there on the side of the stage looking at me.

And I walk off stage and he goes, they have no idea how you do what you do. And I'm like, you're a hand balancer. You go up 50 feet in the air Do handstands on two little wooden blocks You're jumping from thing to thing If I fuck up a joke Okay, I've got another one If you slip you're dead

What do you mean you don't know how I do what I do The hell Crazy show man Wonderful experience Like I said, go support that show And just to be around around circus people. Yes.

And now you think as a dwarf, I am circus people, but like, but to be around true circus people is truly remarkable. There's a woman in that cast that gets hung by her hair and spins around like a top over the audience. And I went to her, I'm like, did that, does it hurt? And like, freaking Wolverine, she looks at me and goes, every time. Oh my God. Damn.

Yeah, man, that's, this is, I want to hear more about this because. Yeah, it's a culture. Yes, the circus is this old form of entertainment that is filled with the most eccentric. Like, you think it's weird to be a fucking comedian. Oh, my God. These are, like, the things these people do. Amazing. Yeah, some of them, like, go way, way back.

and it's the most obscure show. They come from families of ACC. Yes. And what was wild, too, is because it's an ensemble, comedians, we can get into our own thoughts and become a little bit of an echo chamber in our own head or just be surrounded by opening acts that also share our thoughts.

We had Ukrainians and Russians when the conflict broke out. What was that like? They had to stay on separate sides. Are you fucking kidding? And when they worked, there was like a absolute strict, we are not talking politics. You come in, you do your shit.

Like there's performers that are literally wondering how their families are doing in a war-torn conflict. But like I said, dude, circus people are fucking different. There was the closest it ever got to a fight backstage had nothing to do with the Russian-Ukraine conflict, which was going on. but there was a Brazilian guy who was very anti the Bolsonaro, I think his name was. Yeah. And, you know, far right-wing politician there. And yeah, very anti. And then there was another guy that was pro.

And it was, that had to be split up. You know, like, but that's the thing when you have that many people and not just that many Americans. World. All over the world. Now, you know, you got Russians performing with Ukrainians, you got Jews performing with Palestinians, you got like different sides of the aisle, all sorts of things are happening. It really is. It's sort of a microclimate micro-universe where everyone just kind of has to figure out how to get along. But it's a beautiful thing because sometimes you get in those echo chambers and you just, your own thoughts get amplified and you think, well, this is the only way to live and you never get challenged.

It's good to get challenged. It really is. So it was truly just an amazing, amazing experience, which I loved doing. And here's one more thing I'll say about it is comedians. We have examples of comedians that have made it. You do a sitcom. You start huge podcast. You're touring theaters, touring stadiums.

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And these guys are still doing it. So it's so amazing what they do. And it was so, I'm always, whether it be singers, magicians, acrobats, whatever. As a performer, I'm always so amazed at other styles of performing. Same. And I try to adopt whatever. whatever they're doing like, ooh, I liked that. That's good.

That, ooh, that way of getting the audience. I never thought about that. Right. Like, it's really, really fun. Yeah, like hanging out with comics, everyone's always, you know, you know, there's an inevitable conversation about some part of stand-up, some, like, weird, tiny part of stand-up. And I learn a lot from listening to comics talk about that. But that's just the comedian take, like, being around these, like, essentially they're

like superheroes. They really are. When I went to Cirque de Saleh in Vegas, and you're looking at them and thinking, like, that's the same species as me. Wild. Like, the shit that they're doing is insane. Okay, wait, I have a question. I apologize to the Vague is a vulgar question. Oh, fire away.

But the vibe I got when I went to see Cirque de Salee, I was on mushrooms, by the way, and I had a horrible trip. Oh, no. Because I was afraid I was going to watch someone die. Like, I'm sitting there, like, if somebody breaks their fucking neck, well, I'm tripped. ripping up here. I'm gonna like it's I'll have to go to therapy. But the I also got this vibe like they're banging like they're fucking you know what I mean I got this vibe like everyone's fucking everybody. Is that true? There is there is some truth to that it is uh they tell you and there's meetings it's also a weird thing being a search salet show because like they tell you not

to fuck yeah they tell you not to fuck like because as a comic we're our own industries run in business. There's no HR. There's no payment department. There's no accounting. It's just you. But then you go to a Vegas show. You're like, oh, there's a real ecosystem in here and how this all runs. So, yeah, they have

the meeting and they tell you, don't fuck. How do they say don't fuck? They just say, don't get you guys, please don't fuck. They use words like fraternize. You know, like, it's just fancy for fucking. Yeah. You know, like, but yeah, of course, people do. You got to get, I mean, it's just because you're like right there in the

face of death every night. Yeah. You're also like surging with like testosterone and like, you're just sweaty. Everybody's smelling. Everyone's fear sweat. Yeah. And they're all really good looking. Yeah.

Because they're all acrobatts. So they're in this amazing shape. Yeah. So everyone's gorgeous. And then in the show Matt Apple, there's also singers. And the singers were amazingly talented. The dancers were amazingly talented. Yeah.

There's a lot of good looking people running around. All running around the backstage and freaking spandex and form fitting. And you're just like, ooh boy. Ooh, all right. And so there was a thing I started to do. And I'll do this on Instagram sometimes too, where sometimes someone would change an outfit or we'd all go out afterward and, you know, they change their outfit. And now, I mean, I'm married and I never want a woman to ever feel uncomfortable. So now I started doing this thing where when I was in Strictus L.A.

where like one of the acrobats would come in just looking stunning. And I would just look at them and go socially appropriate comment. And that meant, hey, hi. You look good. Yeah, right, right, right. Good for you. You look good. You got to be, yeah, you have to be so careful.

But I didn't want to be the compliment like, hey, your tits look amazing. If it's bandix. Like, I didn't want to do that. Wow. So I would just go, socially appropriate comment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I know what you mean, man. Like, this is really fascinating to hear about. And then you add to it that you're, you're simultaneous. So, like, you're dealing with so many different bizarre things around you and you're grieving. Yeah. Simultaneously. And so that is like, it. It feels, it seems, grieving, even if you're not opening up for Cirque de Salae, puts you in a kind of liminal zone.

Like you're in between parts of your life, you're in between like reality, you're, you know, someone that, you know, there's... Time kind of stops. Yes. During that moment where you're like, because in the moments of grieving, nothing matters. Nothing matters. because you know you don't care about that call that you miss that email that you've been putting off the bill whatever you're you're you're just in a state in between existences where you're like there was the before there there was the when my dad is alive and there is the when my dad is no longer here and right now I'm somewhere in the middle yeah I don't know how like when people do the funerals like three days afterward like I think I don't know if it's Jewish people that have to do like three days afterward or four days afterward but some other religions do something similar. I don't know how you do that. I don't know how you do it in four days.

We did a celebration of life from my dad like, I think like two months after he passed. And that was, you want to talk about the hardest set I've ever done. You did a set there? Not a set, but like, yeah. It's my dad. So I ran

the event. I was the main speaker. And yeah, that's the hardest thing I've ever had to do. Yeah, it is. It is what, but do you're, this, to get back to your observation about like three days, you're already doing the funeral, it's like, but you're saying because, and this is my experience too, it's like the idea of doing anything, like productive in the days following.

It seems asinine. It seems so dumb. Why, why would I take the trash out? My dad's dead. Right. I mean, it's almost like, it's a coping mechanism to force, like, it's like people who do that, understand that you are about to get sucked into deep fucking water and better to be in action than inaction, better to be doing stuff.

And there's moments. Like I remember when, you know, going to the house and essentially have to go through dad's stuff and like figure out what stays, what goes. And several times just lost it while going through shit and just was like looking at my wife going, I can't, I can't. I can't do this. I can't look at his things that I saw in his office for years and all in an office and be like, away with that. Like it's like, it's like I understand now and a little bit sympathetic to the hoarders because you never want to put anything away. And like throwing away something or giving away something of your dad seems like, well, I'm giving way a part

of him. This means I'm not loving him anymore because I'm casting him aside, which is the exact opposite of what I'm doing. So yeah, there's a lot, it's fucking deep, man. It's fucking deep. And there's, even though, like, this is one of the most monumental events in a person's life,

zero training for it in the West. No, not certainly not, in school, they're not going to teach you. Here's how you do. Here's what's going to happen when your parents die. Yeah. It'd be funny if it'd be funny if there was like,

a class for, all right, here's what you do when your parents die and you loved them. Here's the other one. But and the best, for anyone who's going through it or about to go through it or whatever, because you will go through it at some point, the best advice I ever got, and I think this is truly beautiful, is the grief will never go away. You're never without it. Right. But you don't want to be without it.

That's right. Because I am lucky enough to have a father who was there for me, loved me, supported me, did all of that. And so it hurt like hell when he passed. And that pain is a reminder of the love that I was fortunate enough to experience in my life. So anytime I have that grief, anytime I'm having a down. Dude, I was listening to a podcast a few days. ago and one of the hosts called his dad while he was on the podcast.

Not to have a moment, just to fuck around with him. And I burst into tears. Just burst in tears, driving my car. I had to pull over. And it's six years ago, my dad. Four years ago, my dad passed. And I'm still just like having this moment because I'm like, I can't do that.

I can't call my dad and just have that joke moment. And when I realized that, oh, I lost it. So, yeah, the grief still comes back. But when it does, like I said, I just go, hey, this is a reminder that you had a hell of a dad and a hell of a childhood and a hell of a life because of him. And how lucky am I to be able to feel this pain? What did your dad do? He was a lawyer. Okay.

But he was a defense attorney, you know, kept people out that was. You know, some people that deserved to go out and some people that probably deserve to be in. How did he react the first time when he realized you were going to, like, go for it as a comic? Oh, man. It was very strange because I was 19 years old and I essentially dropped out of college with a year to go to do stand-up. What were you studying? Communications. Okay.

We didn't lose a cancer cure. I look at Dr. Ken, and I'm like, you're a doctor. We need you. Right. We need you to do that. Like, that's a valuable skill. I was going to be a sports announcer or something. Yeah, whatever.

Yeah, but still, you'd invested for three years of college. Probably your folks helped you pay for that. They paid for it. They paid for it. And then suddenly, like, you're about to finally graduate and your debt. What did you say? Did you say? Was it like one conversation?

I told him I was going to go back. I told him, let me do this for like a year. Like, I was going to tour or something. And then I'll go back to school. I knew in my head I wasn't going back. What year of college did you start doing stand-up? Started doing it late sophomore year. And then at the end of junior year out.

Wow. And, yeah, and the junior would end of a year to go. Where was this? USC, University of Southern California. Where are you going out? Fight on Trojans. first every time I did stand-up was at the Laugh Factory

Open mic in Hollywood Okay Not a great place to do For your first time Yeah Jamie Masada The owner of Laugh factory Would come up to your buddy

I tell you what you do buddy You have all We do all dwarf comedy show buddy You have all dwarf In audience All dwarf comic All dwarf And you're just like

All right It's like it's like it's well intended It is You know what I mean He's trying to help But it's the worst Kind of well It's like when you have a benevolent

heckler. You know what I mean? A heckler legitimately seems like a good person. Yes. They're trying to help or they're trying to or they're heckling you with compliments, which I've had. It's weird. You can't, in front of a whole audience, you get a compliment heckle. You obviously can't be like, shut. You're fucking doing. Yeah, you can't do that.

You seem like a monster. Similarly, when somebody comes up to you proposing a thing like that, you probably, the way you want to do is very different from the way you can react. And it's like I was an open micer. So he starts saying this to me. I'm like, well, he's in the business. He owns the laugh factory. He probably knows more than me.

So, okay. But yeah, so going up and doing any open mic around L.A., there used to be a website. I don't think it's still around, but there used to be a website called chucklemonkey.com. Okay. And you would click on a state and it would just show you all the open mics in the state every night. It was a valuable, valuable resource. That's what you were doing.

Yeah, just going, doing open mics. Because you just felt it. You were like you knew this is what you were going to do. Yeah. Oh, you can't. I mean, you know, you can't relate. You can't replicate that feeling. No.

Anywhere else. No. It's unreal. To create a joke, have a thought and have an audience react positively. Holy shit. Yeah. And thankfully, I was blissfully ignorant as to the odds that I would actually make it. Important to be.

That's an important trait. I'm always scared about young comics going up like, oh man we have so much information now maybe they know how hard this is yeah and maybe they won't try because for whatever reason but i was blissfully ignorant i thought no you know i'll do this for like year and a half and then i'll be rich had no idea when i started working at the comedy store i same i i graduated not to brag bachelor's degree in psychology hell yeah but i was going to go to graduate school got it and wanted to take a year off moved to l.a and just ended up with the comedy store knowing I had no idea what the comedy store was.

Nothing about its history, no idea, nothing. And so I was as blissfully unaware as you could be. I didn't even know how insane it was just to work at the comedy store. I didn't know how crazy that was. My dad was like, that's a legendary place. I'm like, I don't know. But that, yeah, so I had no idea that the odds of making any kind of living stand up are infinitesimal.

Astronomical. But I think a lot of that is, you know, there's like a membrane. There's a permeable membrane that separates people who become comics from people who don't. And that's those open mics. That's all of the stuff you're talking about, the grind, the wretched grind. Being willing to do that. You have to be willing to do that. And you have to be insanely willing to do that.

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Because you said the words I'm thinking about doing stand-up comedy If you're a comedian You have to do this Yeah you don't think about it You don't think about it If you thought about it You won't do it

Not in a million years No why would you No one in the right fucking mind Would do that Why, as an open mic, young comic, would you go up in front of a room full of strangers and say, you know what? I have no experience doing this, but for about the next five, ten minutes, all y'all, shut up. I'm the only one that's allowed to talk.

That's an insanely narcissistic feeling. Incredibly, incredibly, insanely narcissistic. And you're surrounded by insane narcissists. Yes. You're in this cauldron of madness in the beginning. And you get moments like the one you had with Masada and countless other moments where people claiming to be. experts in this or that grifters like god

think of the people you run into or God help you the elders of a stand-up comedy room you know what I mean people who act like their master comics as they've been doing open mics for five years there was my very first open mic I'll never forget this

I showed up and there was a guy there going hey look at me going I've never seen you before is this your is your first one and I go yeah it's my first open mic and he goes all right man no problem just talk to me ask me any questions you got hang with me do what i do i've been doing this open mic for 15 years and then i go i'm not doing anything you do i don't want to be here in 15 years he's like he just said don't worry i got you and it's like

all right i'll do i'll do everything you don't do you don't do yeah and then he goes up in bombs of course he did. Of course. It's your first day in prison, man. I'm not trying to get here. I'm not, this wasn't the plan.

I'm not going to be the king of the open mics. I wanted to, you know, go on and do stuff. But yeah, back to your original question. But then as soon as I started

getting regular work and making a living, my dad was like, all about it. All about it. What about your mom? Mom was a little more like, yep.

Because, you know, it's putting yourself out there. Same. I remember one time, when I was shooting my first special, fun size, my mom was in the audience, and at one point during the taping of that special, I totally, I totally blank. I'm just like, I have no idea what joke is next. And this is when we shot at the Libero Theater in Santa Barbara, California, and it was like half full. We moved the audience around, so it's a camera trick, so it looks full.

That first special fun size, that is not a full theater. Wow. It's not like my brand new special live on Short Street, which is currently airing on my YouTube channel. It's good. It filmed in Lexington, Kentucky, where we did it over two nights and both shows sold out. You're selling everything out now. Now is great.

But like back then. But my mom is there, and I blank. And we only, because it's half full. I got two shots at the most recent special. You know, one shot. So I'm going, all right, they'll let this out. And I tell the audience, hey, I just forgot what I would. need to say next. Hold on. I'll get it. And then as I'm thinking, going, oh, shit, my mom's in the

audience. Oh, no. She's so nervous right now. Because she's nervous for me. Like, and so I started talking to my mom from the stage. Like, hey, mom, I'm okay. I'm just letting you know I'm okay. Like, I'm fine. I'll get it. This is part of it. They're going to, they're going to edit all this out. And then like, as I'm talking, I go, oh, right, that joke. And then I go right back into it. So yeah, like, she was always like, now she's 80 years old. I've been doing this for

22 years. She'll call me and go, where are you off to this week? And I'll be like, I'm going to St. Louis. And she'll go, oh, God. I can say any city. Any city. Doesn't matter. It's just, oh, God, you can hop on a plane. But, but, like,

she's, she just doesn't want me to be hurt but at the same time like she loves it she knows it's my passion she knows it's what i do she knows i make a good living doing it now and uh yeah so it's how do you doing being away from your kid bro she did the first i was told this was going to happen yeah and uh i was told um brian posein told me one every comic who has kids this will happen to you where your kid will say something to you when you're going on the road that'll make you want to quit the business and stay home. And the first one happened to me the last week.

Well, it wasn't. Because I had just been on the road and I just got home and then I knew I had to, and we did a family day and then I knew I had to leave the next day to go back. But I had to get home, do a family day, okay, cool. And then I'm telling her, she's six and I'm going, hey, you know, daddy's got to go to work. And then she just looks up and goes, again. I'm just like Fuck this business

Fuck it Fuck it fuck it I want to quit I want to go home I want to just hug my kid I want to watch her read books I want to take her to parks And museums

And buy her a pony I want to do all that Possein told me This is the worst one I've heard That his kid did to him And I hope he doesn't mind That I'm telling the story If not

Sorry Brian But you're a great comic And you're a friend but this is the kind of stuff that we go through where he was heading out and like, all right, buddy, I've got to go on work and this kid goes like, you know, why, why do you know, why do you got to go, dad?

Why do you got to go? And he goes, well, this is how, you know, daddy pays for everything. Like, this is how we, like, you know, your Xbox and your blank blank, like, there's nice things and this is how, this is how we get it. And the kid looks up and goes,

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off. And, yeah, we're, kid, we're going to do stuff. Yeah, man. But you didn't, what happens? is what I've noticed with myself is this kind of, I don't want to say frantic, but because you know you're going to have to hit the road again. Yeah. And you've got this span of time. And so then I just, I don't know how to put it. Like I feel like I'm overcompensating, you know, like, Oh, definitely. We're, every comic with kids is the divorced parent that when they split custody,

they're like, all right, you were with me this week. We're going to Disneyland. We're going this. We're going to buy you all the things. We're going to do all the things. Like, because the comic comes home and I'm like, all right, we're going to do all the things. And it's not fair to the mom. No. Because the mom's having to regulate. The mom's having to like, you know, do the day to day. The day stuff.

The kids have no idea. Like, without it, they'd probably all be dead. They'd be naked and dead. And I'm, and here comes fun, dad. Yeah. I know. I know. I get to be fun, dad.

I don't know how to fix that. I mean, I don't know. I'm not certain how to balance it out, man. Yeah. You know, I don't, I'm not sure what to do about that. That's something I, uh, I, uh, I go to therapy and I'm definitely talking to my therapist about that. Like, I'm going through whatever I'm going through right now.

And also I'm like pre-planning in the future. You know what? I should send my wife to therapy. That's the answer. Duncan's like, I'm not doing it. What did I think of that? I do mushrooms. I don't have to do it.

Yeah, I got to get into therapy, man. That's probably a good, good move. It's, you know, I'm an advocate for therapy. I was a long time guy that questioned it and was like, I don't need it. I'm fine. And then I started going to it. I'm like, oh, man. And it's made me a better father. It's made me a better partner. Conflict resolution is, I'm a lot better at it now. So yeah, I'll tell people it's great. But it's kind of like, you know, you got to find the right therapist. That's for sure. You got to find the right one that talks to you and you're like, oh, okay, you're getting it.

And does happy endings. That thousand percent. That would be great. Why isn't that thing? So there's a bit I'm working on right now that's kind of about this where it's not done yet, so I'll do like the brass of it. But it's like, so I say heckling in comedy is a lot like happy endings in massage. It's part of it.

It shouldn't be. It should not be part of it. We should not have hecklers. I should not have to deal with this shit. I shouldn't be yelling out and massage therapist should not have to

deal with guys going so are you going to jerk me off now? That shouldn't be a part of it and also why did we decide on massage as where we do hand jobs how did that industry get to it

why that industry I don't need a hand job but I'm getting a massage I'm relaxed I'm comfortable I'm hearing calming music it's beautiful I'm in a beautiful

state of being give me a handy at the DMV That's when I'm stressed. I'm stressed out. Shit's happening. Number five is called. I'm number 5 is called. I'm number 342.

Traffic stops. Traffic stops. Hand jobs. At least you're getting a hand job. At least you're getting a hand job. Think about all the shit that you got to go through. It's so fascinating. You're like certainly waiting in the doctor's office.

Everyone would love going to the doctor. It would be a much healthier nation. Oh my God. Could you imagine? If you're going to the doctor, I'd go to the doctor three times a week. I would be always... Honey, I don't know what's going on.

I'm feeling like I need to go get my blood sugar. It's the seventh time this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Dude, like that we need hand jobs in way different places. Anytime I turn on the news, I should have a flashlight, because that will help me feel better. Oh, my God. Do you know what you just came up with?

A billion dollar industry? Fox? Okay. So you, this is your idea, man. Okay. And you got it right after this podcast, you go and LLC. LLC, man. Go go make it.

You know, they do have apparently these, I know this because I did someone's podcast and like they had sent them these things that hook up to the internet. And so they sync up with porn. So basically it's a flashlight that sinks up with porn. And they're like, you want it? You want it? And I'm like, for a second, I'm like, Yeah, and then I'm, then I realize, like, but this is connecting to some company that's going to have, like, a record of not just, like, what porn I'm looking at, but, like, how quickly I comment it's going to know all these.

All of a sudden you get ads on your phone, like, do you come in 30 seconds when watching porn with your flashlight? You're like, what the fuck? How do you know that shit? But, dude, one of those, but it sinks up with Fox News. So when there's like breaking news It like pumps Breaking news War in it on

And he's just like D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D D-D Dude-D D-D-D-D-D. Oh, yeah Dude, I'm telling you It sinks up with day lines

Sinks up with forensic files Let's just Let's cut to the reality Today Today in the neighborhood Five-year-old Kidnapped from a school Part

What the fuck? No for that! No for that! No for that! No for that! I tried to think of the most monstrous horrible thing, and then I realized I transported us to Epstein's Island. Yeah, right.

Sorry about that. Yeah, right. We're hashing this bit out. Oh, yeah, it's just a bit. It's just a bit. Trust me these days. Someone's like, oh my God, that's it. That's what I've been looking for.

You're going to see it. Someone will make this. I hope so. Dude, it's really. It'll be my idea, and I won't make money off it, but I don't care. Well, look, it's recorded here. By the way, if you ever got one of those, oh my god

don't do it if you haven't never do this but you know they have what they're called those 5D theater seats you ever done that? Yeah where it's like it rumbles and it like sprays mist at you and like does the whole thing. It's like watching a movie in the back of a truck. It sucks.

Yeah yeah yeah I want to sit here. It sucks. How do I eat my snacks if the popcorn is going back? My kids are getting flung out of the fucking chair. They love it but it's just it's the worst horrible but again, I don't mean to keep fixating on this idea, but

that's what we're talking about. Yeah. This can be anything. Like, why are we only sinking our fleshlights up with porn? That's the question. That's what I'm telling you, man. This is, this, I feel like, you know, I feel like, I feel like I'm Bill Gates. This is the Bill Gates in the garage moment.

Dude. We're sinking fleshlights with our porn. Just bird sounds. I mean, what could you sink of a flashlight? Anything. The sound of the wind. Oh, my God. Like the sound of the coffee maker going off in the morning.

Oh, yes. Yeah, you know, you set your coffee maker for 6.50 a.m. And you also set your flashlight. An alarm clock. It wakes you up. Time to get up. Time to get up. Well, sir, thank you so much for coming on this show.

I'm glad that we're ending on hand jobs. Happy ending. Where can people find you? Where are you going? Bradwellyncomedy.com. I'm currently on the Tall Tales Tour, touring all over all of the great US of A. And in December, I'm going to Europe.

So if you're listening in England or Scotland or Norway or Amsterdam or Sweden, I'm coming there, man. It's going to be awesome. And, of course, my brand new special, live on Short Street on my YouTube channel. Please go watch that. And I have a podcast as well. You're listening to a podcast.

Why don't you listen to me to a podcast? It's called Height and Babel. It's me and my buddy, J.B. Ball, who's a 6'3-black guy from Tampa. So we're exactly the same. And we just find weird stories on the Internet, and we just talk about them. We're non-political. We don't talk about sports. You'd love it.

And we just find weird stories on the internet, and we just talk about them. So that's the Brad Williams catalog. That's the kit. Watch the special. Listen to the podcast. Go see me on tour. Links down below if you don't want to type something in. And tell me that Duncan Tressel sent you because then I will know what kind of fan you are.

And I will go, okay, this is a comedy fan. I like you. This is great, bro. Thank you, Brad. Whenever we talk, it's always too brief. So it was very nice to chat with you for an hour, man. Yeah, man. Thank you so much.

Of course. That was Brad Williams, everybody. All the links you need to find him are down below. Thank you so much for watching the DTFH. And thank you to our beloved sponsors for keeping food in my children's mouths. I love you and I'll see you on the night stream. Bye.