Duncan Trussell Family Hour - 756: Rat Utopia

Episode Date: June 14, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:26 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Hi! Oh, welcome! Welcome my sweet loves to the DTFH Live, aka the day stream or the stream of day, if you want to get specific about what this is. We've got a lot to talk about, my friends. A lot has been going on. For those of you are into the night stream, I haven't been able to do the night stream lately because I'm moving my personal podcast studio to another zone. And that's not going to be ready until July. Not this one with Josh, of course, in the day, but what you've been watching, the night stream from. Unfortunately, I can't move in until July. So we're going to be doing more of these day streams until that happens. Also, I've been on the road a ton. Thank you to all of you who came out to the shows in Asheville and Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:01:23 That was super fun. I got some more shows coming up just a few weeks away from heading to Nashville and the Wilbur in Boston. And as long as I'm plugging shit, why not tune in to another Mystery Boys tonight on YMH? It's a good one.
Starting point is 00:01:41 We called Jeffrey Epstein. I'm not going to give any spoilers on that. And I don't know, maybe it is hanging out with Metzger. I don't know, maybe it's talking to some people online. I've been thinking about some real weird shit lately, man. Real weird shit.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Maybe it's just the algorithm. Josh, you were talking about this. Your algorithm suddenly changed. It's been giving you very strange stuff. Yeah, lingerie. You just saw one. Launderee. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:07 That's great, because my algorithms change, too. It's giving me people who are in some really fascinating reality tunnels, man. Holy shit. Like this one lady who is Shia LaBouf's... Is that how you say his last name? Labuf. LaBuff. Shia LaBuffs.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I didn't mean that as some boofing joke, by the way. I'm genuinely confused by how you say his name. But, yeah, Shilabov's stalker who thinks that she's married to him, it just posts constantly messages to him. And one night, it's like, do you want to see this? Look at this. And I started watching it. And whoa, it wasn't necessarily the content, which I have to admit, like the production
Starting point is 00:02:50 quality is kind of low. It's not so, you know, it could be a lot better. No offense if you're watching this, Shialabov's stalker. but it's the sheer amount of things that she's posted. Like, you know, it's fun to scroll to the end. You want to see where it starts. And sometimes when you're seeing somebody who's in a strange reality tunnel, you can like actually trace all the way back to the beginning when it started,
Starting point is 00:03:16 when they decided that they were going to marry Shilabuff. And it just goes on and on and on and on and on. I couldn't get to the bottom of it. thousands and thousands of these and because I looked at that I've been getting more and more and more and more people living in alternate timelines now it would be easy to call them crazy it would be a simple thing to call them schizo it would be an easy thing to say these people are out of their fucking minds and I'm not saying that they're not but the problem is when you waggle your little sane finger calling someone else insane saying you you have to really take a good look at your own life and all the crazy shit you believe and make sure that you're not also completely bad shit in the sense that just because you're subscribing to some kind of version of reality that the majority of people subscribe to, aka consensus reality, doesn't mean you're fucking sane.
Starting point is 00:04:17 You could have been born into some kind of, I don't know, a country of, let's say, people who are into child sacrifice and summoning demons. And everyone's into that. People just think it's normal to sacrifice children. They think it's normal to summon demons to trap them in pinagrams and crystals and then use them to wreak havoc on the world or to do good things. I mean, you have to ask yourself, if you summit a demon and you send it to do good things, it's still a good thing.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I guess that's for a different podcast and we have like a demonologist on or something like that. But I've been thinking about this a lot, you know, this idea of consensus reality. But most importantly, how nothing's really changed. We've just sort of rebranded, you know, like let me come with me on a journey through time. Come with me. Take your clothes off. Take your shirt off. You can't wear clothes in my time machine.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Do you know that, right? I mean, trust me, I'm the only one who can wear clothes in my time machine. Come with me on a journey through time. Take off your boots. Take off your high heels. Leave them in my sniffing basket. And come with me to ancient Mesopotamia. Pull that up, Josh.
Starting point is 00:05:42 On YouTube? That thing we pulled up earlier. You've got it on one of the tabs there. Ancient Mesopotamia. Now, I read, this is just the AI overview, but I read this really interesting piece on ancient Mesopotamia, and they had these exorcists that for them were like doctors. Like, you know, we know the Catholic Church has exorcists. I don't know if any other churches have them, but even that is kind of looked at is like fucking nuts, you know, like, and really exorcist casting demons out of people? really? I mean, it's great for movies, but come on. Really? But back in ancient Mesopotamia, they didn't think of it as crazy. They thought of it as normal. Like it was a normal thing to hire
Starting point is 00:06:31 an exorcist known as an a sipu. I don't know what that bindi thing over the S means. A shippoo. An ashipu, is it a shish? A shipu. Ancient Mesopotamian protected themselves from curses and malevolent magic by hiring highly trained exorcist priests as Shippoo to perform complex ceremonies. Protection strategies included wearing bell-shaped amulets, drawing salt or flower circles around the home, placing protective demon-trapping bowls under door thresholds and burning effigies of the sorcerers responsible. Now, a modern person, we're all modern people here. We have electric light illuminating us. We have self-driving cars.
Starting point is 00:07:19 We have technology. We have computer chips running everything. Our refrigerators fucking talk to us. You read a thing like that. You think those savages, they're out of their fucking mind. But pull up, Josh, just an image of like a COVID mask. Remember this? Remember this? Have we all forgotten this? Remember this shit, guys? The phases of this. It was really interesting. You guys remember when COVID hit or we all forgotten that? You guys remember that, right? It was wild because we didn't know what the fuck it was. Everyone was scared. Except for like some people are like, it's bullshit. Don't believe it. And those people, God helped them. If they spoke out against the masks,
Starting point is 00:08:13 Even like virologists. Even Anthony Fauci, I think at first was saying, you know, the mask isn't going to do shit. And even though like people understand like the size of virus versus the could easily flow in and out of a fucking mask. And as you know, I'm not going to go on some fucking Texas tirade against maskers. You want to fucking mask mask. In the same way that if you want to put salt in a circle around you, do it. I don't know. Maybe it fucking works.
Starting point is 00:08:41 but that my point is nothing's really changed that much. The form is changed. The form has changed. But the thing itself, using weird shit to protect yourself from invisible forces, has not really changed that much. It's a bit of a mind fuck, isn't it? When you think about that, because you want to be rational. You don't want to imagine that you live in. as strange and superstitious a world is the ancient Mesopotamians who would like go to the
Starting point is 00:09:19 temple and find in a Shippoo and say, I think a sorcerer has cast a dark spell on me. And they'd come to your fucking house and bury a bowl under your door and be like, you're going to be okay now. And then some other like fucked up shit would happen to you. And you'd be like, I think you buried the wrong bowl, man. My balls are still covered in festering boils. getting you like oh yeah yeah sorry about that uh we were confused about the sorcer you we've got a ball boil saucer it's a completely different it's a boil bowl not not not i did have a pox bowl and it's like
Starting point is 00:09:55 almost the same bowl but it's different and they would come and bury a new fucking bowl and not just that i mean pull up that uh child sacrifice wikipedia is, yeah. I mean, we all know back in the old days, people used to do this, for real. They would sacrifice fucking children. Look, there it is, the
Starting point is 00:10:22 offering to Molek, putting a fucking baby into this fucked up lion statue thing. People standing around. Yeah! Yes! Great! This is great blowing trumpets. That's your last moment
Starting point is 00:10:38 here on earth. A bunch of asses blowing trumpets right before you get fucking incinerated. Can you imagine that? That is real. People used to do that. That is real. Now go back. One more time. That is real. That is real.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Israel. What? It's Israel. Now, let's see. Pre-Columbian cultures. Archaeologists have found the remains of more than 140 children who were sacrificed in Peru's northern coastal region, 140. The Aztecs are well known for their ritualistic human sacrifice,
Starting point is 00:11:18 is offering to God with the goal of restoring cosmological balance, while the demographic of people chosen, can you scroll up a little bit? Chosen to sacrifice remains unclear. It is hypothesized that this specific child sacrifice took place during the great drought and famine of 1454 to 1457, furthering the theory that Aztecs utilized human sacrifice to placate the gods. So you see a thing like that, and you're like, well, oh, my God, we've risen from the darkness of the ancient past. Now we're sophisticated. We don't do that anymore. None of these sacrifices to Mollock. Pull up Kermit Gossnell, that other tab. Look at this.
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Starting point is 00:16:30 Dude. I just found out about this. motherfucker. Trigger warning. This shit is the vilest, most horrifying, fucked-up shit I've ever heard of. Kermit Gossnell was an American serial killer and abortion doctor. It is clinic in West Philadelphia. Gosnell provided illegal late-term abortions, committed post-labor infanticide after many live births and ran a prescription pill mill which eventually attracted federal attention so this dude here is the face of pure fucking evil this guy somehow managed to make sacrifices to malac seem sophisticated like this guy was like once the baby was born was
Starting point is 00:17:29 the baby's spinal cord. I think he's killed more people than any other serial killer. But I could be wrong about that. But this fucking Gossnell piece of shit, when they raided that place, it just smelled like rotting flesh. Did you know this guy? No. Because it was just, you know, he just tossed in the dead babies and like in fucking bins, I guess, and not disposing of him.
Starting point is 00:17:54 In a 2010 raid, authorities found the intact human remains of, 47 fetuses and babies stored in bags and cartons. Scroll down a little bit, Josh. 21 felony counts of illegal late-term abortion and 211 counts of violating informed consent law. And so basically, I unfortunately did a deep dive on this shit, which I wish I didn't do. And he had some nurse who he was like training or grooming. And, you know, she was like having reservations about killing babies. Like, a great person.
Starting point is 00:18:38 What a great person. She's like, I don't know if she should be killing babies. Kermit? Hey, Dr. Gossel, I don't know. I've got a weird feeling about this baby killing thing. And then she said that she just sort of went numb to what was happening and just was just fucking killing babies. They were taking babies and putting them in like,
Starting point is 00:19:00 bowls that have been born and just letting them die, just letting them die. This is, this is fucking just happened, man. This is very recent. They tried to give them the death penalty. But, you know, and also Karnamaya Mongar, an adult patient at the clinic, that's a wild name, who died following an abortion procedure. So, you know, people were just going there and fucking dying, but he told this nurse who was having reservations, they're born poor, so they're already dead.
Starting point is 00:19:42 He said that. Like, those words came out of this man's mouth who was just getting these people fucking addicted to pills, killing their fucking babies. He was like a warlock. That's what a warlock does. Like, a warlock, you know, what is? the difference between this guy and a warlock who moves into town builds like a fucking dark citadel with like crows sitting at the top and wolves howling around it and like it's the same thing nothing's
Starting point is 00:20:15 changed here we have modern ritualistic child sacrifice to satiate the gods of capitalism that's what that is It's not a drought. It's an economic drought. It's not the crops aren't growing. It's that the people who are going there didn't have a lot of money. And so to pacify the gods who would curse them by making them poor, well, I'll just kill your baby. It'll make things better. Let me give you these magical tablets. It'll make your feelings go away. What's the fucking difference? It's the same thing. Nothing. has changed. It just is rebranded. That's all. Now, Josh, if you could, this is my theory on this stuff, you guys. By the way, if you go on GitHub for you nerds out there,
Starting point is 00:21:15 somebody just made a really awesome cymatics simulator. So you could do cymatics like on your computer. For those of you don't know what cymatics are, it's where you dump powder onto speakers basically on a plate. And the vibration, makes the powder form into certain geometry. So, yeah, pull up cymatics on YouTube, Josh. I've always been fascinated by this.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And don't do the audio on it. Yeah, that's... The sound on. Yeah, no audio. So watch what happens. So when you run certain vibrations through powder, I don't know what the sludge he's pouring on there right now. But, you know, on.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Honestly, what this video is, is that's actually liquefied fetal tissue from Gossin House. Play this one. Was it true? They had one about if you whisper, like, bad stuff to water, it'll freeze in a bad way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's another thing that you could do. It's a different, but yeah, it's essentially like the way vibration just affects things. it forms these predictable patterns based on the pitch.
Starting point is 00:22:46 So if, you know, 133 Hertz, you get whatever the fuck that is. Let it keep going for a second. Let's see here. 1820, you're going to get that fucking thing. And on and on. It's really cool some of the shapes these things make. You're going to get that thing. 3,240 hertz.
Starting point is 00:23:14 You're going to get that thing. Almost looks like crop circles. makes you wonder about like is that what crop circles are put on some more fucking salt on that baby boom you get that thing it definitely reminds me
Starting point is 00:23:30 of like different like megalithic sites and stuff that you've seen there that they draw sort of looks like that but if you
Starting point is 00:23:45 what all this shit has got me thinking about is like I don't know like i don't know what the word for it is i got to come up with some kind of cool name for this someone's already come up with a much better name no doubt but like cultural cymatics that like when certain vibrations emanate through any culture it's always going to form the exact same pattern and then but the the salt in this case is whatever symbols or whatever mythologies or whatever the, you know, vernacular of the time is, will form, is what forms it. But it's the same
Starting point is 00:24:24 fucking thing. Killing babies is killing babies. If we're using a different language for why we're killing the babies or if we're, if we have different ideas about what it is, it's still child sacrifice. It's still the exact same fucking thing. It's just right now the gods aren't, you know, like Sumerian gods, Pizzuzu or some shit. gods now are the Dow. Meta. Meta. The Dow.
Starting point is 00:24:55 It's mostly the Dow. Like, whenever you hear on the news, when they, like, tell you, oh, the Dow Jones Industrial average has dropped 3%. That is the same thing as saying, Lord Narvoth of the Seventh Vale has become slightly angry at us. It's the same fucking thing. And so then you end up realizing. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I am living in ancient times and modern times at the same time. People in Mesopotamia, by the way, they weren't going around like, God, we're primitive pieces of shit. Fucking out of our minds. They were like, this is some high-tech shit. Did you hear? They came up with a new bowl ritual. Like, it's way better.
Starting point is 00:25:41 They made it more efficient. It came to them in a vision. The gods came and said, here, you've got to, like, shit in the bowl before you bury. And I know that's crazy, but bullshitting, it definitely throws shit back at Exorcists. So this brings me to what I want to offer you guys. And by the way, I see someone in the chat right now talking about Lord Narvoth of the Seventh Vale being a scary guy. First of all, Lord Narvoth is all genders combined.
Starting point is 00:26:15 He is actually a vagina. with penises radiating out from the sides and that rolls through the seventh fail. That's how he moves around. And so, yeah, I guess scary to look at, but pretty fun to hang out with. Now, I want to offer you guys something now. Did we lose all our tabs, Josh? Okay, so this is something that we're going to do now And you don't have to participate if you don't want to
Starting point is 00:26:56 But you have to ask yourself You have to ask yourself What other things are real That we imagine are from the ancient times And one of those is curses Are curses real Josh, you're going to have to talk about this because I'm not a sports dude, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:27:23 But tell me about the Trump curse and the Knicks, whatever the fuck that is. He was the very first president to ever go to NBA finals, and they ended up losing. They won the other three out of the four games, and they said he put a bad vibe there, and that that's why they lost. In fact, when they showed them during the national anthem,
Starting point is 00:27:41 the whole stadium started to boo Trump. And people were like, you set it off a weird atmosphere because everybody had to get patted down before they got in. That was a Knicks game? That was a Knicks game. Pull that up, by the way. For those of you haven't seen this,
Starting point is 00:27:52 um... I'll go to Twitter. It just seems like... It seems like our president... And he fell asleep at the end of the game. How do you fall asleep after an entire fucking arena booze you? I still wouldn't be able to fall asleep after that. How do you fall asleep after that?
Starting point is 00:28:12 This is the craziest shit ever. I mean, listen to this... That's the owner of the Knicks. Oh. Yeah. Or Madison Square Garden. and then that's all bulletproof glass. It seems like it's too low.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Okay, that's good. God, Jesus, the Secret Service guy is like, how do I deal with this? How do I deal with this? I can protect him from bullets, but how can I protect him from a broken heart? And then he passes out. He's pissed.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah, that was him asleep. Wow, he's really good. Sit sleeping. It's an old guy thing. You can do it very easily. See? Wow. He's very good at that.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Huh. He should talk about goody is at that. That's hard to do. My head nods for it. Like, that shows some weird, like, neck powers. Now, so Trump cursed the Knicks. Is that the idea?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah. And that, yeah, he brought bad juju onto the Knicks and I hope he's at game five, six, and seven. You know, if I was him, I would do that just to fuck with him. Like after getting booed like that, I'm like, oh, I'm coming to every game now. Every fucking game, you pieces of shit until you cheer for me. I'm going to keep coming until I get full cheers. He would do that.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I could see him doing something like that. But so here we have a modern day emergent story that has mythical purport. The dark king comes to the game. His bad vibe, his cymatic emanations, create a vibration that produces failure for the Knicks. But aren't they always losing? No, they were on a 13-game playoff winning streak, which is the highest. I thought the thing with the Knicks, but historically is they lose all the time.
Starting point is 00:30:28 They choke in the finals or because last time they, they, they, they, they, they got beat by the bulls. And, yeah, so that's that they choke. And like, if you become a Knicks fan, you're basically signing up for, like, the worst kind of pain. I've just heard that from Knicks fans. They're like, don't do it.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Like, don't get, don't get in. Yeah, it's frustrating for them. The last time they were in the finals, when it's 19909 versus the Spurs, when their best players' father played for that team, and he was number nine. Now, his son's playing against the Spurs 27 years later, and he's wearing the number 11.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Oh shit, sorry, dude. I fell asleep for a second. Well, anyway, curses. You know, you don't want to... I understand, like, I do think the placebo effect is incredibly powerful. In fact, they say it's the most powerful effect in medicine. Like, you give somebody, you know, a sugar pill, and their fucking sickness goes away somehow.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Maybe it gets their immune system to work, or who knows? there's accounts of people with like stage four cancer going to their doctor and it's gone. I think they're figuring out what that is now. It's like your immune system identifies it's bad and they're like, oh, God, we didn't realize. And then they get rid of it. But the point is you can induce that effect. But maybe there's something more than just the placebo effect just because you believe it works. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:32:01 but when it comes to curses, there's something I want to share with you. Years and years ago, when I was hanging out with some Satanists, I was curious. I asked them like, well, how do you curse people? Because I thought that was what it was about. And they told me, they told me, I'm not going to share that here. But they did tell me, well, here's what you would do. And they said, don't do it. This is coming from fucking Satanist.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Don't curse. It's really bad, really risky, bad news all the way around. The bet, if you really want to fuck somebody up, the only way, the best way, the most reliable way and the least risky way to do that is to become happy and to have success. These are the things that will completely shake your enemies up more than that. than any other fucking thing. Because anybody who's so low level and stupid and dumb that they are inordinately thinking about you in a negative way and actively trying to fuck up your life,
Starting point is 00:33:17 they're the type of person who is obviously not working on their own lives. They're always on a downward trajectory. Anytime you meet anybody who's a vengeance person, notice their lives always going down always now it might be a slow descent it might be a fast ascent but vengeance minded people it it never works out for them before i go out with what i'm going to give you i'm giving you guys a gift i'm going to help you with something today i want you to pull up that cape fear poster of josh little movie recommendation here um the new cape fear series i think it's on TV is so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And I love Cape Fear. If you haven't seen the original movie, actually there's the original one's black and white, I believe. But the one with De Niro is so insanely good. It's one of my favorite movies. And so
Starting point is 00:34:16 anytime you hear about this remake of your favorite fucking movie, you're filled with dread. You're filled with this growing sense that they're just going to ruin something. They're going to mess something up, something that didn't need to be duplicated. How the fuck is anybody going to do the Max Katie, the De Niro did in Cape Fear?
Starting point is 00:34:39 Dude. What's the name of that actor, by the way? Just so we can give him the credit he deserves. Javier Bardem. Javier Bardem. Oh, my God. So good. And what he did is instead of trying to, like, I'm not going to sort of.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I feel like I already spoiled it by showing you what he looks like because the the beginning kind of like keeps you in suspense. It's like they knew that everyone who loves Cape Fear was going to be completely worried about how are they going to redo De Niro's Max Katie. Is he going to, because the whole movie is hanging on this guy. Like he could really fuck it up. But what he did is he took he it's like a completely different Max Katie. And it's so good. It's just a different take on this essentially like the Count of Monte Cristo. It's a modern day version of that, but told from the, anyway, I don't want to give too much away about it.
Starting point is 00:35:42 It's just fucking good. But so this is a vengeance-obsessed person, basically. This is somebody who's out for revenge. And he is the very last person you would want hunting your ass down. He's also, maybe you could argue, a symbol of redemption. and karma and justice. And it's just such a deep, good movie. But in general, when you're looking to get revenge on somebody,
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Starting point is 00:39:18 Thank you, BetterHelp. If somebody's like done you wrong, here's what you can count on. They're doing other people wrong. On the recs, if they're doing something weird to you, they're doing weird shit to everybody. We're social animals. Once you start shitting all over the system, you're fucked.
Starting point is 00:39:53 You're already fucked. So this is why any time I get pissed off about something, I always do refer to the Bible. Of course I'd do children. Vengeance is mine. Say it for Lord. And another thing I refer to is something meal-monaut. Matsu Musashi, the great samurai said, which one of my friends has told me, which is if you live long enough, you will see the bodies of your enemies float down the river in front of you,
Starting point is 00:40:28 which is true. Because if somebody's like fucking with you, they're fucking with other people. If somebody's doing fucked up things, they're hurting themselves. They're really fixated in the me, you paradigm. They think they're at them and you're a you and they don't understand that by hurting people around you, you're hurting yourself. And this is like cancer. It's like it's a system, a part of a system that's hurting the system itself. And so what happens in the body, the immune system, once it catches on, it turns on the fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:41:07 It attacks it. It destroys it on its own. You don't have to do anything. anything at all. And so if you get sucked in by a curse caster, then, and when I say curse casting, to go back to the original theme here, I'm not saying like literally somebody's got a voodood all of you or a jar with your hair in it or any of that shit. I'm just saying like somebody who seems to be consciously trying to disrupt your life in a negative way. And, um, If you get sucked into that,
Starting point is 00:41:47 watch out. You've got to watch out because their curse is working. Now you're being pulled in an even more insidious way, which is you're becoming them. They're changing you. They're puppeteering you. They're marioneting you. It's very deep, very dangerous.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And so the reason these Satan has said not to curse, and I think in other magical traditions, so you could argue Satanism isn't a magical tradition. The general idea is what you put out, you get back times fill in the blank, depending on what stupid Instagram fucking feed, which that you're seeing is telling you. But it's true. What you put out, it magnifies back at you. It's an echo chamber.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And so when you curse somebody, if we're looking at it from the purely superstitious metaphysical window, you're connecting with them. It's a connection. It's a direct link. You're linking to them. Now, whether you're actually linking with them, I don't know. But mentally, you're connecting with them. You're bringing them into your mind all the time. You're thinking negative thoughts about them. And so you have now established a link with a person via your focus on them. And so this is a two-way street. This is the problem. It's a two-way street. Once you establish that connection of negativity, the moment the person you're cursing becomes aware of that, oh shit, oh my God, I'm being cursed. Then now they can respond via that connection. That's the basic idea, which brings us to what I'm
Starting point is 00:43:36 going to offer all of you if you want it. Do you feel like some kind of curse has been placed upon you? My children. You are my children. Is somebody out there done something to you? Somebody out there thinking about you in negative ways. Do you get a general ominous sense? A kind of tension pulling at your astral ass. Something's out there plucking the harp strings of your life,
Starting point is 00:44:04 trying to play dissonant tones. Do you get that feeling? Well, today I'm going to offer you a... chance can all do this together to remove whatever your curses may be and the reason you never want to curse anybody is because the general method of removing curses is to send that fucker back that's all you got to do it's a connection it's essentially a rubber band you just let it go it's going to hit somebody right in the fucking face it's all you have to do that's the that's uh cursory removal 101. Now, obviously I'm no Mesopotamian trained exorcist. I'm a stoner who likes to
Starting point is 00:44:50 read weird shit. But I think what we should all do now. And I can't play it though. I do want to. I guess you could cut it out, right, Josh? I can cut it out, but they might stop the stream. Let's roll the dice. Okay. You know, so now I present to you, you don't mind cutting it out, Josh. This is one of the great wizards of our time. William S. Burroughs. Wait, stop it. Go back to the beginning.
Starting point is 00:45:24 This is William S. Burroughs doing a curse banishing ritual. All you have to do if we all listen to this and focus on it together, we will form a kind of transient coven and we will eliminate. In this very moment, all curses. And then after, you know what? After he reads it, I'll read it just to make sure we seal the deal. Go ahead and play it, Josh. The mouth and block the door and door to make up mine.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Lock and change the door with double pain and lack. Curse go back. Curse go back. Back with double fear. and black, a light, staying heart, and cursing mind. Ah, wow, that's so cool. Curse go back. All right, and now, read it.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Pull up, is there a way to pull up the text there? So if you want to read it with me, read it with me. Can they see that? Yeah, they'll be able to see it. Okay, let's read it. I won't be able to do near as good a job as William Burroughs, obviously. lock them out and block the door bar them out forever more lock them out lock is mine and door is mine three times three to make up nine change the lock and change the door smear them out forevermore curse go back curse go back back with double pain and lack curse go back
Starting point is 00:48:00 curse go back back with double fear and black silver arrow through the night silver arrow take thy flight silver arrow seek and find cursing heart and cursing heart and cursing cursing mind. Don't you feel better? Josh, I couldn't help but notice you didn't read it. What? Are you suddenly feeling sick? No, no. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:48:36 You're suddenly getting a weird feeling? In my tummy a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't feel good, does it? No. No! It doesn't feel good.
Starting point is 00:48:46 The flow has been reversed. You know, is that real? I don't know. It felt good to read it. My grandmother used to do a thing to get rid of curses. I thought it was part of Catholicism. It's not. It's called the Wevel.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It's just an egg, right? And she would say the rosary, rub the egg over the part that's hurting, so I have a fever. Then get a bowl of water, crack the egg in the water, put it under the bed, and then I would lay there like this. And then she'd come back. And if the egg was white, that means somebody put a ho on me or a curse. The evil eye. They put that on me. And if it didn't have anything, then nobody did that.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I'm just sick. Did you ever get a white egg? Yes, but I found out later, it just depends on how hot the water is. So it's basically cooking the eggs. If you put hot water, it's going to be white. If you put cold water, nothing's going to happen. I thought it was part of Catholicism. And everybody's like, nope, that's not Catholicism.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Is your grandmother still alive? No, she passed away. God, that sucks. Because you need to ask her, like, are you keeping a consistent water temperature? They weren't. They weren't. They was just whatever, whatever they turned it on, if they had just washed dishes in the sink. Then it's going to be hot.
Starting point is 00:49:53 You got a fucking curse. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Oh, man. Jesus Christ. Why'd your grandmother fucking do that to you, man? In the valley, a lot of Catholic, they took like a lot of, like, it's witchcraft. And it kind of went into.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah. They just, like, adopted it and said, oh, this is Catholicism and it's not. I mean, even before Catholicism took in, I mean, any organized religion is magic. unarguably. Like, there's no way around that. It's just, you know, yeah, I know it's sucked in Catholicism sucked in a lot of stuff. I mean, isn't that what Santa Ria is, is essentially? It's the reverse of it. But that's where they got saints because there was demigods and the Orthodox in Russia, they don't have any saints. Here, you lose something, you pray to a certain saint to find it. St. Anthony. Yeah. St. Anthony. Please look around.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah. What is it? How does it go? I just go, St. Anthony, where the fuck is it? I don't talk like that. By the way, that's the worst fucking saint to be. The saint of all stuff, just people asking you. It's called being married. You know what I mean? Anyone who's fucking buried, you become St. Anthony
Starting point is 00:51:00 because you have to help them find their fucking phones and they have to help you find your shit. It's the worst. Poor St. Anthony. Somebody needs to pray to him for him. My God, that poor saint constantly all day long helping people find their wallets. What are you like to work?
Starting point is 00:51:16 Where are my keys? Well, I hope that this helped you, my friends. I know that these are trying times. And if you ask me, sometimes it's good to at least temporarily take off the tinfoil hat of modernism. Take it off. Let yourself drift back to the ancient times. Don't be afraid. Is it real?
Starting point is 00:51:42 Any of this bullshit? I don't know. Is any of the modern stuff? real? I don't know. Are we in a simulation? I don't know. Is this a dream? Yes, it is. And the moment you start lucid dreaming is where you can start having fun. So if you ask me, sometimes you can get a little imbalanced into modernity. And that's not going to save you. Just because it's not supposed to be real doesn't mean it doesn't work. Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean you're not susceptible. That's not enough. You know, you can not believe that you have an infection on your
Starting point is 00:52:24 arm because your stupid fucking cat swiped you a good one. But that's not going to save you from watching your arm rot off. It doesn't matter. It's just cymatics, friends. You can use language as a handle to attach to all of these ideas that can be kind of rough to get a hold of If you need to use the language of modernity, then use it. If it helps you to consider yourself to be neurodivergent, that's fine. You're neurodivergent. Sometimes, though, you've got to ask, do I have a demon? Do you have a demon?
Starting point is 00:53:03 No. But will that compel you maybe to put a little more effort into, um, Healing yourself. Maybe. Maybe. On the other hand, sometimes thinking you have a demon is like a real, that's a red flag.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I'll be honest. That's a red flag. I think we live in a rat utopia. That's what I think we live in. Oh yeah, right. Utopia. We're going to talk about a different fucking thing all together.
Starting point is 00:53:34 We'll save that for another podcast. You know, and also that's kind of like a, that was great, Josh. Thanks for putting a button on that for me. I really appreciate that for tying it all together to something. that isn't connected.
Starting point is 00:53:49 The rat utopia, you guys have heard of that, you put a bunch of rats in a place where they have everything they need and like the next thing you know, they get all fat and fucked up and they just stop reproducing and just essentially lose all.
Starting point is 00:54:03 It seems like they actually become better rats. I mean, do you want your rats reproducing? I don't. That's good, right? Well, they said like their specific rats that only clean themselves and made themselves look super nice. And that's kind of like what's happening now with that guy like clavicular, whatever's name is.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Clavicular. There you go. Him and like all the looks maxing. And that's where we're towards the end of the rat utopia. I mean, we're not rats, but, you know. You know, I'll tell you my take on clavicular. Pull up a picture of clavicular. I thought of this the other day.
Starting point is 00:54:39 He just got a nose job. Oh, congratulations, clavicular. Good job. There he is. beautiful, beautiful man. There he is. Now, you know, obviously this is like
Starting point is 00:55:00 well chewed and well-trod territory when it comes to streaming and yapping about shit. But I think I have a hot take on it that I haven't heard yet and it's kind of sad because why do all of this? Like why use a hammer
Starting point is 00:55:20 to like reshape your face why fuck up your body like or why pay tons of money to have your body changed why Josh why do you think because people don't we don't have the
Starting point is 00:55:38 what's it called purpose anymore we don't feel like well what's this all for so now it just becomes how I can look my best that's the only thing I can do that's the only thing I think I can control that's good but go deeper they're gay
Starting point is 00:55:54 you're getting there but go even deeper they're really gay go even deeper go deeper josh come on I could take it go deeper deeper
Starting point is 00:56:08 albert is saying the ego no it's even I know this is what it is it's so sad they want to be touched they want to be touched clavicular wants to be held He wants to be loved.
Starting point is 00:56:24 He wants to be touched. He wants somebody to hold him and love him and touch him. And he thinks the only way he can make that happen is by sledge hammering his fucking cheekbones. Do you know how sad that is? Dude, all of these people who are warping their bodies, you have to ask yourself, if they were living alone, like if they washed up on a desert island or something, are they going to be fucking trying to fix their face, regrow their hair, adjust their nose. No, there's nobody around.
Starting point is 00:56:57 The bananas are still going to fall out of the fucking banana tree for them, regardless of how symmetrical their face is. People like clavicular represent loneliness. They represent people who are like, they need someone to love them unconditionally and hold them and say, I love you, clavicular. You're wonderful. You're beautiful.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And so they're shattering their fucking bones to just feel someone's touch. That's all it is. Like you look at like the, you know, slop videos that come out about this dude who weirdly was thrust upon us. Like, suspiciously so. Like he became, you know, whatever the invisible empire like throws to the fucking peasantry to yap. about you know every every few every month we get a new topic of discussion well they had to replace that bald guy from uh or is it Romania what was his name what oh Andrew Tate Andrew Tate he replaced right yeah he was the next in line it's just sort of like a testament to I don't know toxic masculinity
Starting point is 00:58:10 narcissism streaming culture I guess I don't know but the truth is that guy just is desperately wanting someone to love him all the way. That's what he wants. It's all it is. It's so sad. And it's so, it's really sad. It's like all these people, anybody who's like just a malformed or culturally dissonant. If you just shrink them down to like babies, they're the cutest, sweetest things of all
Starting point is 00:58:43 time. No one's ever looked at a baby and been like, I don't give this baby a fucking nose job. You got to get this baby's chest. chin fixed. You just love the baby. They're so powerful. They're such powerful creatures. And it's so sad. Clavicular just needs a mommy. Clavicular needs just somebody to, whether it's a dude mommy or whatever, a daddy, guess what they call guy moms. You know what's scary? He's probably going to be a politician one day. You know why? Because this is, I mean, think what pumping iron when Arnold Schwarzenegger was when people first saw it. It's like,
Starting point is 00:59:19 Why is this guy so into his own body? You know, I don't know about that, Josh. And then he became governor. I don't know. I'm worried about sweet clavicular. Like, you know, I just see these videos of him passing out and shit at bars. Like, you know, he's like all fucked up. Oh, he was on, uh, somebody gave him a pill.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Somebody gave him a pill. Yeah. And they carried him out. You know, I just got to say this. Every single pill that I've ever enjoyed, somebody gave it to me. Yeah. I mean, it's not an excuse. He took, you know, I don't know what he's on.
Starting point is 00:59:49 The point is, like, there's not, he's going to inevitably find that no matter how beautiful and symmetrical he becomes, he's still going to feel like shit until he deals with the fact that he needs somebody to like he's longing. He's longing for something that you're not going to get from symmetry. It doesn't matter. In fact, he's going to get himself in a horrible predicament. worst case scenario for clavicular is people start banging him because he looks pretty and you know what right i think he got head on a stream once which stream uh his stream i forgot if what he did it on but the girl was on it and he was like oh yeah lonely that's pure deep loneliness anytime i've gotten i've how many times have i gotten a blowjob on this stream
Starting point is 01:00:44 four yes and do i do i do any kind of performative anything no Nothing. No one knows. I could be getting one right now. I 100% don't show it when I'm getting blown on the stream, but this is why I like having this table, you know. And I think the people who blow me appreciate that, you know, and that will be, once we get the YouTube member stuff figured out, that is going to be like a high, a high tier on the YouTube. Like if you, if you subscribe to a high enough tier, you, you, you, I will fly. you, I will fly you to Austin and you can blow me under the table, which is, I think, makes sense. That'll be like the, I don't know, $12 tier. But you do feel more empty inside
Starting point is 01:01:30 after you get blown. You literally are emptier. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, it just doesn't work. 69ing though works. Yeah, but that's, I feel less empty when I was 69. Yeah, but that's like the yin and the yang. Right. You're feeding each other. It's a snake eating its own... Dick and balls. Pussy.
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Starting point is 01:07:29 And I was just going to buy nicotine pouches. And me and the dude at the convenience story got in this great conversation about Hitler. and you know Hitler fuck so many things up my birthday embarrassingly enough is on Hitler's birthday
Starting point is 01:07:49 it's 420 it's an embarrassing birthday I've always been embarrassed by that I'm embarrassed by it because like surely I'm not that much
Starting point is 01:08:00 of a stoner like if this stuff they say is true that you choose what day you're born and all that does that mean that like in whatever place
Starting point is 01:08:09 we are before you come year. I was like, 420, dude. And I don't want to think of the other thing I could be. I want to be born on Hitler's birthday, man. Let's hope. It's got to be weed. I was like, 420, man, that is like the way I could signal to my young self to start smoking weed as soon as you can. But when you think about it, like Hitler ruined 420. Hitler ruined the Hitler mustache. Yeah, not even Jordan can bring it back. no one can bring it back. It's done. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:42 That, and maybe that's good. I mean, I think the Hitler mustache ruined the Hitler mustache. It seems like it's just like, what is that? Commit to the fucking mustache, dude. Like, why are you just, it's like the equivalent of the, when you're shaving your pubs. It's like that strip thing that people do, the Mohawk or whatever. I don't know. I'm sure there's a name for that. But the landing strip.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Landing strip. There you go. He ruined. What else did he fucking. ruin. He ruined the swastika. Fucking ruin the swastika. Perfectly cool symbol before he came around and shit on it.
Starting point is 01:09:18 And Hitlered it up. It's all over India still. He didn't take it from them, but I remember going to India and it took a second to get used to see fucking swastikas everywhere. It really did. Hitler ruined what else he ruined, Josh?
Starting point is 01:09:33 Thunderbolts? Oh yeah. Yeah, he ruined Thunderbolts. He ruined Thunderbolts. He ruined Thunderbolts. He ruined, go back to the chat. Maybe what else did Hitler ruin you guys? Pretty, he fucked up Germany pretty bad. Yeah, he fucked up Germany. What else?
Starting point is 01:09:55 What about name the good things that he did? You piece of shit. Fanta. Without the Nazis, there would not be orange-grate fanta. What? Yeah, because Coca-Cola stopped giving them whatever. And so they're like, well, we're going to make our own flavor drinks. And so they created Fanta.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Dude, please pull that up. Yeah. Tell me that's not true. Tell me that Hitler didn't create Fanta. Well, not Hitler, but the Nazis. The dude of this convenience store said that it's like the whole methamphetamine problem is because they were, the Nazis were like. Yeah, that's why they had blitzcrack because they could go for days. So he like, you know, he ruined before Hitler, meth was like a sophisticated drug.
Starting point is 01:10:47 The professor smoked. Fanta was created in 1940 in Nazi Germany by the... Oh my God. Holy shit. The name Fanta was derived from the German word for imagination. Fantasy. Suggested by salesman Joe Kipp. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:05 So he didn't ruin... I guess that's a testament to how good Fanta is. Hitler couldn't ruin Fanta. They should use that. Anyone from Fanta, you're welcome to use that for your next campaign. Here's the... commercial, cut to the Hitler mustache, cut to, I don't know, meth, a picture of like, that Nazi meth they were taking.
Starting point is 01:11:31 3-412A.E says they created IBM. Oh, there you go. Didn't ruin IBM. What else? Volkswagen. Not a bad car. Hugo Boss. Not a bad brand.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Why are we doing things they did that? You really did that. It just suddenly just turns into like a fucking neo-nazzi podcast. It is not a good path, Gensie! Not a good path! What the fuck, Josh? But I want to finish my point is like, it's like, and it does weirdly tie in to like vengeance people or people who are like fucking up their communities.
Starting point is 01:12:21 We all know, like, every, every, every, friendship group, every, every community has within it some shit disturbing asshole who is creating drama always. And sometimes you're that person, you know, sometimes I'm that person. Hopefully in a group that is changing, everyone goes through shit. But we know, for example, how like hardcore opioid addiction will just destroy entire communities. Like, we'll destroy families, will just like rip families apart, destroy like the communities around the family. We know that. So that's like, that's, you know, a kind of density that you can have as a person.
Starting point is 01:13:02 You can really fuck shit up if you're an asshole. But usually the way you fuck shit up is like relatively like low level. But in the world, you can be enough of a fucking asshole. You could be enough of a piece of shit that you want. ruin the nicks, that you ruin mustaches, that you know what I mean? You can be such an ass, it's the opposite of enlightenment. Like in the world, you can be such a beautiful, good, open conduit of light that you create these ripples that invite people to stop being selfish pieces of shit.
Starting point is 01:13:46 And it goes on and on and on forever and ever and ever. You can be that good. but you where there's one thing its opposite is there too you could be such a piece of fucking shit that long after you're dead people are standing in front of the mirror
Starting point is 01:14:02 shaving and they look at that little square underneath their nose and they're like damn that looks good that looks really good on me I'm like fuck I can't do it because of Hitler I gotta shave that everybody's gonna think I'm a Nazi
Starting point is 01:14:18 it is odd though right neo-Nazis don't do Hitler mustaches. No. Why? They shaved their head. I know, but you would think that if you were really into Hiller, you would do his mustache. It's kind of hack. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah. One lady ruined, I mean, think about all the parents that didn't name their kid Karen after when Karen was a big enough asshole. Oh, my God! Do we know who the original Karen was? No, I don't know. Oh, my God, you're right. whoever that was was such a piece of shit that she ruined her her own name yeah no there is no single
Starting point is 01:14:58 original there has to be though there's a karen hair oh wait it's dain kook comedian dankook use the name in a popular is describing karen as the one friend in every group that nobody likes because she's always a doucheback dang kirk dank kirk people dang kukh originated the karen that's fascinating That's like the rock, apparently, is behind the Italian brain rot stuff. What's the Italian brain rot stuff? You guys know what that is, right? Italian brain rot. Like, your kids are too old for this shit.
Starting point is 01:15:29 It's like, uh, look up Italian brain rot. Right. It's just these, like, terms. I think six, seven counts as Italian brain rot, but I could be wrong. The Italian brain rot universe is full of absurd, made up characters with bizarre backstories. The names in audio are heavily stylized. It's, they just say the, I don't know what it means. Like you're, that's part of being like older, like only kids understand this fully.
Starting point is 01:15:56 But they say things like tra la la la la la. Show them all. Ballerina cappuccina, tongue, tongue, tongue sehor. Bombardio, crocodile, chimpanzee, bananini. I think the rock was like, doesn't speak Italian. I saw him talking about this. And he said some of these words and then it just, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Get out of it. It's all. It's about you. This is like opening. the Necronomicon. You shouldn't even look at it. Like, it's not for us. It's at the forbidden zone for adults. Don't go there. We shouldn't toy with it. Let's keep doing the superchats. Thanks for the super chat. Hi, John. Thanks for the super chat. Thought, prayer meditation is quantum technology. Cymatics is an artifact within the macro. Well, see, I knew someone smarter than me would chime in.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Cymatics is an artifact within the macroscopic realm that illustrates the function of consciousness upon our perspective of reality. You know, John, it's so weird. Let me just show you something. It happened to my notebook, Josh. Oh, there it is. I don't even, I could open this. This is my journal.
Starting point is 01:17:16 It's where I keep all my ideas. I write stuff down. And weirdly, I wrote exactly that, like two hours ago, exactly like that. And I was like, I should say that in the podcast. And then I'm like, you know what? I'll just try to like make simplify it a little bit but that's brilliant yeah the function of consciousness upon our perspective of reality yeah have you heard of language affecting our reality like they asked Spanish speaking people to they saw the same thing as English speaking people and English people saw the outcome and Spanish people saw the reason it happened oh cool and so we through our language forget the reason of why stuff happens.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Just remember what happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because our language is like a market language. Yeah, so does that mean we're easily, much more easily manipulated? Yeah, probably. Yeah, I mean, isn't that the idea? Like, you know, it's all fucking P.T. Barnum over here in the West. Gladiator, what happened to go into Philly?
Starting point is 01:18:28 I went to Philly. I was at Helium in Philly. I love that club. I was there, Gladiator 2-2-2. Another sign that I need to get a little better at marketing. If you could name a fan's baby, what would it be? Oh, Alpaca, I'm so honored that you would ask me that. And I'm not going to answer that.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Because you, this is, you know, I'll tell you, naming a child is so fun. And it can be, you know, interesting. because two people have to agree on the name, depending on where you're at. I think in some cultures, like the dude names the baby. I think in others the mom names the baby. I don't know how that works.
Starting point is 01:19:14 But, you know, it's so fascinating to name something that you haven't even met yet. And it's really wild how, like, it just comes. It's like, it's a little bit. bit like the koan that in Zen Buddhism they get your ass meditating they ask you an impossible question to answer you meditate and meditate and meditate and you just go kind of nuts and I think every few days you meet with like the temple priest I don't know what their title is the rohi the roshi and the roshi like asks you this koan and you'll respond but it's it's wrong and but then
Starting point is 01:20:03 you go so insane that spontaneously this the answer will pop out of your mouth and there's like books of these coons with the answer like it's always the same answer somehow that's naming a child it'll it will just come but i'm not gonna i can't get involved there friend i think moms name the baby and dads give them the nicknames yeah yeah that makes sense yeah because my wife named our kids Isaiah, Zoe, and Xavier. And I call them Issa, Zozo, and Zayzee. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds weird at the H-EB, though. Issa Zoso Zsa Zsa! And people are like, what the fuck? It sounds like you're counting. It sounds like counting in another language.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Yeah. It sounds like you're like some kind of Kung Fu master is telling you like Kadas to get into or something. Yeah. Isay, Zosos! Sese! That's cool. Um,
Starting point is 01:21:05 Occubage says, have fun at Costco later. Fuck that. Fuck that, Occupage. Oh, my God. That is truly a weight that my wonderful wife carries for us. She does the cost.
Starting point is 01:21:20 She makes fun of me when I go to Costco with her. Because I just don't, like, it's like, if you haven't been to Costco regularly, there's rules. There's things that don't make sense. There's a Costco. culture. There's things you can do wrong. You get lost. You buy an air fryer. You buy a knife set. You're going to buy some kind of sharpening stone. You're going to buy a TV long before you start
Starting point is 01:21:44 doing grocery shopping. And like you just, it's crazy. We'll walk out of Costco. You went in there to buy like a week's worth of groceries. You'll walk out with like a full prepper set, fishing lures. You're not going to go fishing. A golf club. Three blenders. Some kind of coffee filters, a video game set. It gets you. Who did sweatshirt? Doug it, what did Alex Jones smell like? Asking for a friend. No discernible odor. Did you smell anything? I didn't smell anything, Josh. No discernible odor. Nothing. Sorry. I wish I could give you something a little more juicy, but nothing. No cologne, nothing. And we got a good sniff. Yeah. Yeah. He's a
Starting point is 01:22:35 Yeah. I mean, we, you know, he's kind enough to let us, we're like, please, I know this is weird, but we would love to just like breathe in your essence. He's like, no problem, go ahead. It's fine, you two, go on in there. He just embraced us. I felt like, honestly, I felt like a child in his arms. You cried. Yeah. Chris Farrid, what's the difference between ego death and just being ignored in a party? That's a great question. Is that a co-on? It feels like a co-on. You know, I'd say here's the difference. To be ignored at a party, you have to have a you that's being ignored. You have to be aware of like a you. There's a you that could be ignored. You're fixating on this.
Starting point is 01:23:37 little imaginary friend you call yourself your your little doll isn't getting the attention at once you're worried about your doll do people like my doll is my doll an asshole is is is is my doll going to be lonely for the rest of their life oh my god did that does this person think my doll is weird my doll must smell weird does my doll stink no one will ever love my doll that's your That's being ignore. That's your ego. There's just this very, like, sophisticated imaginary friends you're carrying around with you. And that doesn't help, by the way, knowing that doesn't help.
Starting point is 01:24:17 And your ego gets stung, it fucking hurts. It's horrible. I hate it. It's horrible. You just, it's embarrassing. It's implicitly embarrassing. Like, it has to be embarrassing. And so you're just, you get really defensive and protective of this thing that is not real.
Starting point is 01:24:37 In the sense, I mean, it's real in the way that your thoughts are real, but it's pretty ephemeral. It's not like your body. It's like a set of expectations and notions about who you are and, you know, the respect you deserve. What will people think about me? And it's always, at least my ego is so fucking, like, absolutely ridiculous in its prognostications. what will happen. If this happens, then that will happen. It's always wrong.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Everyone's ego is a lot like levicular, you know? So getting ignored at a party for a lot of us is like the greatest thing that could happen to is for us for occluses. It's like, fuck yeah. I'm getting ignored. This is amazing. If you have social anxiety, getting ignored at a party can be nice. Except your social anxiety is going to make you think you offended somebody.
Starting point is 01:25:37 But yeah, I'd say that's the difference. Have you ever done the Japanese ego test? What is it? I'll pull it up. There's a Japanese ego test? Yes, that's not what it's called, but that's what I remember it as. I could out wait. That would be amazing to have like a, the way you can test like your, a cube test.
Starting point is 01:25:59 That's what it's called. Cube test. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. Okay. Close your eyes. Okay, wait.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Will you read it to me and we'll do the cube test right out? Okay. Just real quick. I'm not very good at reading, but we're going to try. Close your eyes and try to clear your mind. Then picture yourself in a desert. Fast, empty, just desert. Now, picture a cube in your desert.
Starting point is 01:26:22 How big is your cube? Do you see the cube embedded in the desert sand on the surface, floating or moving around? Is the cube hollow inside or is it solid? Just remember that there is no final score in this test. Okay. Wait, stops. First of all, I don't like that they're telling me what the fucking,
Starting point is 01:26:43 there's so many ways a cube could be. So, you know, already, it's just like, who the fuck do you think you are telling me about my cube? I'll decide my own fucking cube, you piece of shit. You could make, this is ridiculous. I could have done a much better cube test, cube ego test. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Building on your image, your desert, your cube, A ladder appears again. Describe it. Where is the ladder in respect to the cube? Above, below, against, in the cube. Is the latter old, new, long, short? What is the ladder made out of? As you look at the ladder, a horse now appears.
Starting point is 01:27:22 What the fuck? Please describe for me what you see. How about I don't? In respect to the cube, tell me where you see the horse. I don't respect that cube. Closer far. Is the horse standing still or moving around? If he's moving, which way is he moving?
Starting point is 01:27:35 Okay. What does the horse? How long is this thing? It's a few more questions. What is it? Oh shit, it's a lot. The fuck isn't it, Josh. It's super long.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Okay, so the cube, just tell me the cube part. This is the ego part. How big was your cube and where was it? The cube was like actually not very big. Okay. But it was like made of biceps. Okay. Was it high up in the air?
Starting point is 01:28:04 Was it down north near the ground? Or was it? It was like near the ground. Then you're grounded and you have a small ego. What about the biceps? That doesn't tell me anything about that, yeah. Or maybe it does later on. But yeah, it's pretty long.
Starting point is 01:28:22 I did this test. My wife did it for me. She was laughing because she goes, think of a cube. And I said it's in, think of Independence Day when the spaceship is coming through and covers the whole sky. That's what I told her. And she was like, that's your ego. And I was like, fuck. That crushed me.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Josh, you do not have a fucking inflated ego, dude. You don't. Oh, my God. I have an inflated eagle about having an inflated eagle. Yeah, well, that's where it gets that. That exactly is it. That's the recursion. This is the problem.
Starting point is 01:28:54 It's like it's a house of mirrors. It's one of those infinity mirrors. Anytime you become self-reflective or fixated on even the idea of the ego, then it just produces like, well, you don't want, an ego you want ego death or whatever the fuck that even is but the reason you want the ego death is because you want to be a better person which is your ego so it's your ego just bouncing off of itself creating feedback it's a fucking feedback loop it's when you put the microphone too close to the speakers it's like you don't even have to worry about your fucking ego man it's like you can't
Starting point is 01:29:32 kill it because it's not real it's like you know what I mean it's like it's like it's like killing a smurf. They're not real. Well, isn't your ego, your, your, your, your, your shadow size? They're not real, but let me just say this because I'm going to catch you for that. I don't think smirfs are real. And I will die on that hell. So all you go ahead and come at me, you smurf believers, fuck out, I get attacked by these people every day. They're not real. They're not. Show me one. Show me a living smurf. They'd be in zoos.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Or they'd be in food or whatever, if gargamel was right. Just show me. The point is there, I don't think they're real. Go ahead and attack me all you fucking want online. Go ahead. But I will smack you down every single fucking time because no matter what, the pictures I've seen of Smurfs, they're all blurry, they're shitty, they're shitty. They don't, there could be easily be something else. So they're not real.
Starting point is 01:30:22 So fuck off. You know, I don't like going there on this podcast. It is a podcast of love, peace, and joy. But go fuck yourself if you're one of the Smurf believers. It's such a gross subculture. They're not real. They're not real. Show me one.
Starting point is 01:30:39 I just want to see one smurf. I'll apologize. Just one smurf. One smurf autopsy. Even like a... Or the smirfs. Don't... The smurfs were not based on a specific singular real-life event or a person.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Josh, why did you look that up? Because I saw an Instagram real long time ago that said that it was a specific type of person that they were portraying. So I was trying to see what that was. You're just almost about to be. become a smurf. That's how it starts. That's like the way in, and the next thing you know, you start believing in them. Thanks for the donation Mab. Let's go back to the chat real quick, Josh. And John, I'll make
Starting point is 01:31:34 sure to buy those flower seeds. Thank you. Wait, what? I missed that. Yeah. John, this one's for Josh. Please spend this $5 wisely at Trader Joe's on a lovely pack of fair-traded, organic, free-range, non-GMO sunflower seeds. Thank you. Yeah, Josh, you better fucking do it. I want to see those seeds the next time I come in here.
Starting point is 01:31:57 You guys, this has been a joy. I love streaming with you, and I love you. You know, I had a guest scheduled, by the way. I do want to get back to interviewing people, though I'm really enjoying these. But I also like interviewing people. It's just, I've had the last couple of guests
Starting point is 01:32:14 just, like, just hasn't worked out. I better get out of here. head over to the mystery boys preview room guys start a conversation there this one's a good one in fact it could really change the world i'm not going to spoil it but it does make me i don't know does some of the stuff that we uncovered in this mystery boys is i don't know i don't know what's going to happen to us have a wonderful day a wonderful week and god bless you all that's stupid how do you close out a live dream. Oh, I know. No more curses. We sent all, I hope today we sent hundreds of curses, maybe thousands of curses, back to the warlocks and witches and, and, and dark, darklings out there who would dare curse
Starting point is 01:33:10 me or any of my wonderful listeners, watchers. I think we did it. I felt something come out of me. felt like a string broke God help whoever threw that string whoever harpooned me with their dark magic Actually God help you I hope it doesn't go back on you really
Starting point is 01:33:29 I don't want to fuck anybody up Maybe a little

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