Duncan Trussell Family Hour - JOHNNY PEMBERTON IS GOD'S FATHER

Episode Date: June 2, 2015

Duncan rants about a quantum physics experiment he barely understand and is joined by Johnny Pemberton (Twisting The Wind, Kevin, Spray Boy, The Craftsmen, 21 Jump Street) They talk about the perfect ...high school, Magic, and the NSA

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of the Dunkin' Trussell Family Hour podcast is brought to you by Harrys.com. Thank your father for blasting your genetic information into your mother's egg folds by giving him a nice shave, Harrys.com. Hello my sweet babies of the night with your darling little feet pedaling on your dream bikes down into hell. It is I, Dunkin' Trussell, and you are listening to the Dunkin' Trussell Family Hour podcast. I gotta read this to you. I'm sure if you're someone who, like me, stays online for 95% of your life, you already read this incredible weird report coming from the Scientific Universe. This is from ScienceDaily.com. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna read parts of it to you,
Starting point is 00:01:13 and then I'm gonna tell you how crazy it is, even though you're probably already gonna understand how crazy it is. Experiment confirms quantum theory weirdness. The bizarre nature of reality is laid out by quantum theory has survived another test. Test, with scientists performing a famous experiment improving that reality does not exist until it is measured. Physicists have conducted John Wheeler's delayed choice thought experiment, which involves a moving object that is given the choice to act like a particle or a wave. The group reversed Wheeler's original experiment and used helium atoms scattered by light. That's a good choice. I would have done the same thing.
Starting point is 00:01:59 The bizarre nature of reality, wait, hold on, shit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Common sense says the object is either wave-like or particle-like, independent of how we measure it. But quantum physics predicts that whether you observe wave-like behavior or particle behavior depends on how it is actually measured at the end of its journey. This is exactly what the ANU team found out. It proves that measurement is everything. At the quantum level, reality does not exist if you're not looking at it. Despite the apparent weirdness, the results confirm the validity of quantum theory, which governs the world of the very small and has enabled the development of many technologies such as LEDs, lasers, and computer chips. The ANU team not only succeeded in building the experiment, which seemed nearly impossible when it was proposed in 1978,
Starting point is 00:02:51 but reversed Wheeler's original concept of light beams being bounced by mirrors and instead used atoms scattered by laser light. So I won't go into the details of the thing. You might already understand that I certainly don't, barely, but here's the gist of it. If one chooses to believe that the atom really did take a particular path or paths, then one has to accept that a future measurement is affecting the atom's past. The atoms did not travel from A to B. It was only when they were measured at the end of the journey that their wave-like or particle-like behavior was brought into existence, he said. Wow! Wow! Now, I'm no physicist.
Starting point is 00:03:36 As many, I'm sorry to disappoint many of you, probably based on my deep understanding of physics and math, I've probably thought I was some kind of PhD in physics. I'm not. I'm just a guy who likes to eat marijuana and play Witcher. But I will tell you that this experiment validates my understanding, not of physics, but of magic and prayer and all the, quote, woo-woo stuff that I like talking about on this podcast. Because here we have reality, this sort of non-existent blast of phenomena. And then we have the expectations of the scientists shaping that reality at the fundamental level.
Starting point is 00:04:27 That's all magic is, friends. That's all prayer is. That's all any of this stuff really is. It's learning how to focus your attention in a very specific way so that you can shape the field of phenomena around you to match whatever it is that you desire. That's the idea. That's it. So this is working in the tiniest level. It's got to be working all the way up to the top as the emerald tablet of Hermes Trimestigerius says, forgive me if I fuck up that name.
Starting point is 00:05:07 It's fun to say. Emerald tablet of Hermes Trimestigerius says, as above so below, which means as below so above. So if at the very fundamental, deepest, smallest, tiniest, pixelated version of this strange dimension that we're existing in, the expectations of scientists is actually forming reality, possibly even forming reality in the past that it must be happening right now. You understand? You're like a lighthouse. Your sensory apparatus is like a reality shaping lighthouse and whatever particular light that you're casting out into this great nothingness, the void surrounding all of us is literally bringing it into existence. This is the breath of God in the book of Genesis. This is the breath of life.
Starting point is 00:06:03 You still have it inside of you. The exhalation of the divine is rolling through you at every moment. And when you look out at the world, you have to do what God did in the book of Genesis, not literally you fucking assholes. I'm not saying it really happened. It's all symbolic. It's all deeper than you can understand. So don't clench your assholes, you atheists. I don't mean it literally happened.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But in the book of Genesis, it says that God looked out upon the world and it was good. I don't know. It says something like that. Basically he said, it's good. This is good. It's good. This is good. And it was.
Starting point is 00:06:48 That's what you've got to do when you wake up in the morning and you look at yourself in the mirror and you see the effects of aging or booze or eating too many calories or sadness. Or all the grief or all the whatever you've been through. You've got to figure out a way to look at that reflection and say, it is good. This is good. This is good. And you do that because at the fundamental level, you are affecting yourself at the quantum level. You are changing yourself every time you do something like that. Every time you have an expectation of people around you, that's better than whatever it formerly was than you are shifting reality.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Now look, I sent a DM to a scientist friend of mine who's also a skeptic, Cara Santa Maria. Unfortunately, she wasn't able to get back to me so I could talk to her before this. I'm sure she's going to take some wind out of my sails here, but I'm going to try to record a brief conversation with her about this very principle because it's super important. And it's the essence of magic. Magic is just focusing your will, focusing your attention out into the world so that instead of looking out into the world and having an expectation that everything sucks and the world is a cesspool and everyone's an asshole and everybody's going to hurt you and everyone's just out for their own good and everybody wants to stab you in the back if they can and people are going to lie to you and people are going to cheat and steal and the whole thing ends in just a grim, seizure-like death moment as you look back on the rubble of your crap life and thank God that the whole thing's fucking ending. That's just magic, friends. If you look at it, if you look at things like that, that's what you're going to get.
Starting point is 00:08:46 All the cliches, all the aphorisms, all the trite sayings from crystal-gazing new-age cuckoos have been confirmed by scientists. Our observation of reality brings reality into being. Your very attention shapes reality. There's a theory behind sigil magic where you create some event that you want to happen in an encoded way on a bit of paper and you stare at it and you manifest that reality. Sometimes you stare at it and you actually masturbate. That's sex magic. You create a heightened state as you're peering at the sigil which represents what you want to have happen. You're affecting reality at the fundamental level.
Starting point is 00:09:39 That's what that's all about. And it also is kind of sinister when we think about all the corporate logos floating around us at all times. And how these corporations probably understand this very simple principle that if they can get enough people to turn that lighthouse, that reality-shaping lighthouse in the direction of their corporate symbology. Is symbology even a word? Then they can harness the power, the creative power of all mankind to bring their company or business or whatever it is they want into existence and keep it there by holding it in the visual field. That's why corporations pay so much fucking money for these billboards. This is why when you're watching something just for a second and you think, why would they even pay for that? Maybe they understand this stuff in some subconscious way.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Maybe they have a different way of saying it. They're not going to say, oh yes, we understand that the human force of attention is one of the most powerful thing that exists in this dimension. And if we can turn enough optic nerves in the direction of our symbols, then we will actually summon a kind of money-making spirit that exists in the world. We can actually convert that attention into dough. They're going to have different corporate ways of saying that, but it's the same principle. You've got to bring it back to yourself, which is every single day when your mind, like some awful, stubborn mule, starts pulling the chariot of your life in the direction of hell by talking shit about friends or hating yourself or contemplating suicide or considering how miserable your life is or turning towards the hopeless. When it starts pulling the chariot of your life toward the fields of desolation that so many other lives have been yanked into,
Starting point is 00:11:40 you've got to grab the reins and use your will. Consider this scientific experiment and recognize that the untrained mind that is running amuck through your life is actually summoning demons into your very existence. You've got to turn your gaze in the direction of the good, no matter how absurd, ridiculous, or absolutely insane it may seem. Because you are, as far as we know, the most intelligent, sentient being that exists in this dimension. And your attention appears to be shaping reality at the fundamental level. And if you let your mind go nuts, if you allow those old habits and patterns that got injected into your brain by the terrified freaks who raised you or educated you, take control, then you are going to get pulled into the land of demons that will fist your life until it is just a puckered, exploded rectum. Sorry, I don't know what was happening there, but you've got to turn your eyes to the light.
Starting point is 00:12:58 It's so important. It's really crazy to think about it. I'm going to quote, I'm sorry if I've said this before, but one of the most profound things that was ever said to me when I was in high school was by my driver's ed teacher. I believe his name was Teeter. He said, the car tends to go in the direction you're looking. He didn't know that he was summarizing quantum physics. He didn't know that he was just trying to teach me to drive, but that's the way it works. You got to really take a real long look at what you've been contemplating. You've got to take a long look at what you've been thinking about.
Starting point is 00:13:42 You got to take a long look about how you expect the universe to act. And then just as a thought experiment, imagine that the way you're looking at this motherfucking entity that we happened to have incarnated into is actually causing the entity to act in that way. There seems to be some strange procreative relationship between human attention and phenomena. And when the two come together, phenomena gives birth to whatever attention has injected it with. That's right. Your attention is the penis of the universe humping the phenomenological field and impregnating it with the seed of your expectations. And it's blasting out temporal babies into your future, laying temporal landmines into your future. You got to be careful. That's all. Spend some time over the next few days playing around with the concept that you are actually forming and shaping reality by your very expectation of the way things are to be.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And then just for fun, see if you can trick yourself into imagining that you are in heaven, that you are existing in some kind of heaven state. You might have a little amnesia. You're like an angel with amnesia. You don't really understand what this is or where it is. Throw all your expectations away and just play around with the concept that you are in heaven and start expecting great things to happen. Do this as a form of scientific experiment and then get back to me and let me know what happens. Do the affirmations. Oh God, they're so cheesy. It really does give you the willies to imagine standing in front of the mirror and looking at yourself and saying to yourself, you are beautiful. You are perfect. You deserve love. You are made of love. You're made of light. And this universe is yours to enjoy. But it's worth a try. It's better than standing in front of that fucking mirror and doing the habitual affirmations that you may have been doing for the last many years where you look at yourself and say or thank God, you look like shit today.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Another day. No. Don't be a lazy magician. No matter what you're doing, magic friends. And if you've allowed the imp of your uncontrolled mind to grab the steering wheel of your life, then you can be certain that that motherfucker is going to drive you home and home for the imp of the mind as hell. Just wants to go home, wants to drive back to sit on its daddy's lap and suckle at its billion nipples and drink poison while watching demons gouge the eyeballs out of those who have sinned. Don't let an imp control your mind. You have to take control. You've got to grab the reins and you've got to steer this life of yours into the direction of paradise. Science is backing this stuff up. Also, I guess stop watching Fox News or any news for that matter. I've got to yank my eyes away from that because possibly if you start digesting their apprehension of reality, that very thing might come into existence. We've got to be careful friends. We might have underestimated the potency of the human attention here. We might all be like toddlers carrying M16s, accidentally blasting temporal bullets into the future and blowing up all chances of happiness.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Got to be careful. Turn your eyes towards the light. Do as an experiment this week. Just do it. Do the cheesy affirmation. No one has to know that you're doing it. You can make it a secret. Go into the bathroom, look in the mirror and tell that reflection just how beautiful it is and just how perfect it is and just how incredible it is that it's managed to pull itself from a nothingness into a somethingness that all its atoms are harmonizing in a perfect way, that it can balance itself, that it has an optic nerve that can transform photons into visual form. There's so many beautiful and glorious things about the human body. You know that. It's incredible. Do that. Do that. Do that. Do that to your life and then let me know friends. That's my rant for today. Thank you for listening. I love you guys and I am visualizing that every single one of you are going to have the most incredible week of your life. That this is going to be the big one. This one. This week. This is where it happens. This is the beginning of the snowball effect that moves you in the direction of a wonderful existence. This is it. All the other stuff from the past. That's just because you let that loathsome bucktooth, horn, multi eyeballed imp drive you into hell. Johnny Pemberton is our guest today, but first some quick business.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Math trick you can do is to take your age and subtract it by that exact number in a few extra months and you'll come to a special day when your father shoved his throbbing member deep into your mother's flowery vagina. I don't know where it was. Shopping mall, picnic, late night boat ride, sand castle building session got hot. Whenever it was or wherever it was all that matters is that very moment your father signed a contract with sperm that guaranteed that you would be blasted out of a vagina into this dimension where there's gravity, time and space. And for that we owe this man our lives. Sure, you can go down to the local bookstore and get some crap book on barbecuing and give it to your progenitor, the man who created the ability for you to have orgasms and experience love. The man who, like some master fisherman, used his rod to yank you out of the ocean of your mother's vagina. You can go buy him some cheesy hat and he can wear it around for the next year and all the other dads with their clean shaved faces are going to know that that's a sad dad. That dad's sad because you didn't do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Go to harrys.com and order him a father's day set, limited edition set of wonderful razors. Your dad's the person who taught you how to shave, guaranteed. I'll never forget the time my dad yanked me out of bed, pulled me onto his lap and using a straight razor, shaved my hairless face, mascara running down. He said to me, this is what a man does boy. It was a touching moment and that's why I'm going to go to harrys.com and I'm going to use offer code family hour to get my dad a father's day set which includes a razor, three quality blades, harry's shaving cream and a brand new razor stand. A limited father's day set comes in a sleek box with a customizable card and you can go the extra mile this year and engrave both the razor and the razor stand. This giftable set is shipped directly to your door. This is a really nice thing to get your dad guys.
Starting point is 00:21:42 You can actually engrave a razor. That means you could have engraved in the razor some little saying if you wanted. You could have his initials in there and on the card you could have written thanks for coming inside my mom dad. If not for you I wouldn't be alive or way to go mother fucker. You could put anything you want there to express your love for this man. He made love to your mom. Think about that. Your dad made love to your mom.
Starting point is 00:22:17 He touched her in a way that no other man could and because of that touch he made you father's day. That's why we celebrate it. You don't have to freak out. I know a lot of you guys out there probably for the last three months you've been stressed out thinking what am I going to get my dad for father's day? I know I have. Everybody's pacing around these days. What are we going to do for this man who had the courage to insert his erect cock into our mother's vagina? What do we get for a man who surmounted countless obstacles?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Probably bought concert tickets and shots of tequila just so that he could do that which no other man could do. Ejaculate inside of our sweet sweet moms. It's the hardest thing. A lot of people say that a woman gets pregnant and carries the baby and has to breastfeed the baby and blah blah blah blah. But we all know that the hardest thing is to come inside of a mother. It's hard and that's why I want all of you guys right now to go to harrys.com and harrys will give you five dollars off your father's day set with code family hour. This is just in time for father's day.
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Starting point is 00:24:15 This is a great gift. It's simple. Go and do it. Your dad's going to appreciate it. You want your dad to have a smooth dad face. You don't want your dad to look like he's in the Taliban. You don't want your dad to get stopped when he's coming in to when he's flying on a plane. You don't want people sitting next to your dad to feel like they're sitting next to some scruffy sailor.
Starting point is 00:24:36 This is the man who made love to your mother and continues to do so. Hopefully. Give him a nice razor. Your mom's going to appreciate it. You don't want to think about your mom with all over her upper thighs, scratches and irritation from your dad's unkempt face scraping against her soft sweet thighs. As he filates her in the morning and afternoon and night. You don't want that. You don't want your mother to get pure burns because your daddy's face is like the underbelly of an Australian weasel cat.
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Starting point is 00:25:59 I guess it's not literally a surprise show, but a last minute show. We're doing a last minute show in Austin, Texas. For those of you who are in Austin, we are going to be doing a Duncan Trussell family hour taping this Friday. This Friday. It's happening this Friday. So that is Friday, June 5th at the parish. We are going to be doing a live taping of the podcast. This is a mega Duncan Trussell family hour podcast because we have Derek Waters, the creator of drunk history and Dan Harmon, the creator of community, as well as a million other things.
Starting point is 00:26:38 They're going to be together and we're going to be doing a live show. I was going out there to do a drunk history panel and realized that it's a perfect time to record a live taping of the show. So go get your tickets. They're going fast. Ticket links are located at dunkintrussell.com. Finally, we are also brought to you by amazon.com. Pals, you don't have to go to the store anymore. There's no reason to do it.
Starting point is 00:27:08 You can go to amazon.com and you could buy what I recently just picked up, which is these new fancy ass Fitbit, the Fitbit Surge. I'm wearing it right now. It's pretty cool, man. It's a little bigger than the other Fitbits and I guess I've gotten used to it. It kind of feels like I've got one of those sci-fi tracking collars on that explodes if you go outside a perimeter of wherever you're being captured. But other than that, it's pretty awesome. It checks your heartbeat. So you get a constant sort of read out of what your heart's up to these days.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Like right now, for example, I can look and see what my heart rate is and it is 290 beats per minute. So that's pretty healthy, I think. You can find these things out and then it's got GPS in it, which is pretty cool. So that if you start going on jogs, you can actually see how far you ran. It's cool. I like it. Get one of those. Go to amazon.com.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Go through our portal. If you go to the comment section of any of these podcasts, the Amazon portal is there. They give us a small percentage of whatever you buy and it costs you nothing. Also, I'm sure you guys have heard me talk about this before, but there is a new podcast network called the MindPod Network. There is a spirituality podcast network that I've been helping out with a little bit. They've got a lot of great hosts, including Krishnadas, Jack, Cornfield, Sharon, Salzburg. This is a place you can go if you want the full consciousness download. They are doing a fundraiser right now because they're trying to expand that network.
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Starting point is 00:29:16 He's also a brilliant comedian and actor. He's been on the show a few times before, and I love him. Please welcome Johnny Pemberton. It's the DuncanTrustle family. Johnny Pemberton, welcome back to the DuncanTrustle family. I realized something that we've been doing all these live podcasts together. In the midst of that, I haven't been putting you on the regular podcast. It's basically like I've removed you from what I consider to be my roster of glory.
Starting point is 00:30:09 It's sad because I've got all these beautiful casts with you just in my vault, unreleased. You're not getting out there like you used to and it's fucked. It's so fucked. I can't believe it. It's so fucked. I've just been spinning around in a small hole I dug with my feet. Just dancing upside down until I get enough dust to where it makes it hard to breathe and I just cry out the dust and sneeze.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Man, that dance that you're talking about there is the dance of the dooms. The dusty hole dance? That's the dance of the dooms. That reminds me of an old school thing that coal miners would do. The shuffle. Yeah, when you're really depressed. It's like the story of Johnny Cash going down into the coal mine. To die, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah, I just went on down there. The dust shuffle. Johnny, happy birthday. Thanks, Duncan. Oh yeah, that's today, yeah. I'm so happy to be sharing your birthday with you. Today we went for a jog. A run?
Starting point is 00:31:11 Was it a jog or a run? I always say a run. Yeah, it was a jog. I think I've read that the difference between a jog and a run is the jog is between two and four miles per hour and a run is between four and six or not that's miles per hour, but it's on the treadmill. It's like, you know, you type in the numbers on the treadmill, it's like three to four or two to four or something like that.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Now that I have this fancy ass fucking Fitbit, I can actually go in and see where my heart rate during the run was the most. Where was it? For one minute, I hit what is called fat burning. What is it? 200? It's when your pulse goes to like 160 or something. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Now you're fat burning. Yeah. But apparently if it isn't hitting that, then it's not the same somehow. Really? I didn't know. That's why I gotta do hills. That's why you gotta push yourself. The hills.
Starting point is 00:32:02 People don't understand. I don't think I didn't understand back in the day that if you really want to exercise, you gotta be out of breath. You've gotta push yourself really hard. It's gotta hurt. It's gotta hurt. It's gotta hurt, but then you get that download, that beautiful liquid wet juice that just spills down the back of your head and it hits the spine, the top of the spinal column, the
Starting point is 00:32:25 cervical vertebrae, and it's just like, all of a sudden you hear these locusts and you think about cardboard. You turn it blinding on fire as you flap your way. You know what they call that? You know what they call it in Dune? What? In the Dune trilogy, those great books. What do they call it?
Starting point is 00:32:42 The Juice of Zafu. Do you know the Juice of Zafu? Is that connected to the spice? It's a different, it's actually a different, it's actually kind of like I guess what you consider to be the, it's the mentats. Let me see if I can actually find the Zafo prayer. Hold on. There's a guy named French Cash.
Starting point is 00:33:02 You ever heard of him? French Cash. He's a body mod expert and he's a SSRI expert. No, I've never heard of him. French Cash. Is that real? No, it's a commando, right? Here, listen.
Starting point is 00:33:18 This is the mantra for the mentats. The mentats say when they take this stuff, this, I guess you'd call it a new tropic called Zafu juice. Zipper juice. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Zafu that thoughts acquire speed. The lips acquire stains. The stains become a warning.
Starting point is 00:33:39 It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. That's the, that's they would drink this like crazy shit and say that mantra as they were saying it, but I love it is by will alone that I set my mind in motion because that is the essence of magic or yoga. It's nothing. You're not doing anything but thinking about it. But this is, we are just talking about this in the rant in the beginning of the podcast. I don't know if you have heard about this, but they did another of these bizarre quantum
Starting point is 00:34:10 physics studies based on the weird idea that it is the expectation of the observer that appears to be shaping phenomena at the fundamental quantum level. Really? Yeah. So the expectation being if you expect a particle, you get a particle. If you measure, they say your measurement, what you're measuring. So if you measure for a particle, you get a particle. If you measure for a wave, you get a wave.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And that's like an old, isn't it? There's an old phenomenon that has to do with the way people document things. I can't think of what's called something's law or something's principle about how once you observe something, you change the nature of the thing you're observing by the act of observing. Yeah. That's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And they did some kind of bizarre experiment with helium atoms and random number generators and because it was a thought experiment, some physicists came up with and the end result is, yeah, it looks like our expectation of the particle appears to be, you know, shaping the particle. There seems to be a not just an observation of is not just a kind of outside thing. It's actually the observation. The field of observation is seems to be like the potter's hand affecting the clay of phenomena. But it's not expectation.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I think there's like a difference, right? Because expectation is different than will, right? There's something that Rhonda talks about, right? About the difference between wanting and the idea of you want something and the idea of you, the difference between the desire and want. That's the thing he talks about that the desire versus want. Like want is sort of shallow and immaterial and based on not only based on anything, but desire is like a whole body, whole mind sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:36:06 So you're willing and willing into existence as opposed to like, I expected it to be more fun than amusement park. Yeah. Right. To be like, Oh, it's going to be so much fun in the park because you'll be there. This ride will be there. It's going to be great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I thought I was going to go faster. Right. That's the difference. It's the difference. Yeah. It's the difference between lazy magicians and magicians who have begun the true practice of magic. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:35 No matter what you're doing magic, no matter what you are shaping your reality, it's just one group of magicians likes to pretend that they're not. And that group of magicians is called the victims and the type of magic they practice is called victim magic. Right. And victim magic works via, you'll hear a, you'll hear this kind of magician casting the spell where let me think of a good one, a good victim magic spell is here's a parking tickets are a good one.
Starting point is 00:37:03 A good here. I'll give you a classic victim magic mantra. If you're a victim magician, you've probably said this mantra before. Here it is. This is one of the classic victim magic spells. Man, you know, things are going pretty good for me right now, which means something's about to fuck up. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:19 That is a classic victim magician spell. It's one of their primary spells. Whereas when you have like an a magician who doesn't practice victim magic, who practices actual like the magic of what you could call, um, fuck, uh, Theergy, uh, which is the Thiergy. Theergy. T-H-E-U-R-G-Y. Thiergy.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Thiergy. I think it's pronounced Thiergy. Thiergy. Thiergy. When you practice Thiergy, then you might hear this one of the great magical spells of all time, uh, which is, uh, thank you God. That's one of the great spells. So like you'll hear these like, everyone's doing it.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I do it. I've done it. I've definitely done it. Oh God, me too. Yeah. That's like, even though I always used to quote that grateful dead lyric. I don't know what it is or something like, uh, the first days, the worst days, blah, blah, blah, but when life looks like Easy Street, there's trouble at your door.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Don't do that spell. Oh, mama, don't. I can't do it in person. When life, there's danger at your door. So take one more strip of acid and put that blotter on your tongue. Run out the door. Don't pay the check. You're banned on the run.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Take one more red. You got a banana peel to eat. Smoked those banana peels. Take more acid. Take less showers. Just run around in circles. And that, um, not exactly, that's, so that's, that, so you're do it. So when you start playing like right now, you just start playing around with this awesome
Starting point is 00:38:54 concept, which is that you are a magician and that you have lost yourself in an amnesiac state due to a series of failed experiments. And now just like a magician who was in the, his summoning chamber in the inner sanctum of his magical laboratories and he did something fucking weird, manifested himself in a dimension where he was completely in control, but got amnesia. And then the end result of it is that his power, his incredible power is wreaking havoc on his life. And instead of recognizing that he's the one who's creating all these circumstances, he
Starting point is 00:39:37 has begun to think that the outside of him, it's a terrible predicament to get into. Yeah. It's easy to though. It's super easy. It's like, like a little, um, it's like a gravity, gravity tractor beam kind of thing. Cause you don't see it. You don't feel it pulling on you. It's like a thing where a lot of times you just don't realize that it's happening, but
Starting point is 00:39:58 it is happening. It's like when you, it's like the same with negative thoughts. It's like a, it's like a slippery thing where, oh, you just, you don't realize it until it's just, it's like, what is it that people always say about, there's so many things that you don't realize, you know, about the rear view mirror effect. That's like a scientific thing to talk about. There's a lot of phenomenon they don't know has happened until years after it's happened, because they can't tell until they're looking back on it.
Starting point is 00:40:21 So sometimes you're in a situation like, oh wow, I didn't realize it, but I've been in this badness because I couldn't see, you couldn't contextualize it or step outside of it. Alcoholism is a classic example of that where you've been festering in booze for, for years and you don't even realize that your, your life is being shaped and formed by the addiction to this chemical. It's like having a break. Like having like a little, like a light break on your bike or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:49 What do you mean a break? It's like slowly, it just, things like that just slow you down. Oh yeah, right, right, right, right. Yeah. So you can't, you're working hard. Like, I'm working so hard, but it's hard to go. Oh, it's because there's, you have to break some. You got to fucking break some, man.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah. It's fun to, all these are just thought experiments that are designed to move your life into the direction of existing in heaven. That's all this stuff is. We're just trying to come up with thought experiments to move your life into a better direction. That's all magic really is, but if you pretend that your most negative reoccurring thought patterns are actually demonic forces and that you have been possessed by demons that
Starting point is 00:41:34 in the midst of like, you're casting some spell, who knows what you're doing. Maybe you were creating an entire universe and you accidentally fell into the universe and forgot you were creating the universe and somewhere in the midst of this, you know, in the classic style, if you step out of the magic circle, you get attacked by demons. The demons got into your fucking head and they started telling you really fucked up things like, you're always going to be fat, you'll never get in shape, you'll never find love. Why are you doing this to yourself?
Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah. Why are you doing the thing that you're doing? Yeah. That's that thing where you get in that cycle of, I get in that cycle sometimes with negative thoughts where you get mad at yourself for something and that just increases it because you're angry with yourself for the thing that you're angry with yourself, for the thing that you're angry with yourself. So you have to like, if you talk about it in the demon mentality where it's like, oh,
Starting point is 00:42:28 it wasn't me that did that. That's this thing that's apart from me because I'm no one. I'm really nothing. That's it. Yeah. You're not anything at all. You're just nothing. Well, you're nothing, but you are your will.
Starting point is 00:42:42 You're your will. You're both. It's the duality. It's the great duality of being everything, being unique, but also being nothing at all. Being, yeah. And nothing is everything. Right. And what you're talking about there is proliferation.
Starting point is 00:42:55 You're talking about, in Buddhism, they call it proliferation, which is the endless echo that happens after some specific event. And wherever your mind lands during this echo, that's going to create even more proliferation. And the whole time, all you're doing is burrowing deeper and deeper into hell. That's all you're doing. And you just say, all you have to do, it's so weird. But at any second, you can completely change your focus. You can change your mentations.
Starting point is 00:43:27 You can change your habitual thought patterns. At any second, it's really kind of cool. Just disengage from it, disengage or engage with a better version of things. Yeah. Because it is weird to think you're always like two months away from a completely different life and two months goes by real quick. If you start working out. It's two months a specific number.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I'd say I'm thinking like, OK. I think more like six weeks. All right. Let's say six. I think six weeks. But if you for two months straight start exercising, or if you for two months straight start eating right, or if you for two months straight start meditating, or for two months straight.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Sister life then. Everything changes. And whatever you are doing before that two month period will seem like a weird dream. Like you'll look back and be like, what the fuck was I doing that for? I can't believe I was drinking that much and not paying attention where I was eating. Just getting shit food or. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Like getting mad at yourself for waking up, please. Yeah. Yeah. And it's weird. You look back and you're like, what? Wait. Oh, fuck, man. I was sleepwalking.
Starting point is 00:44:42 That's all. I was just sleepwalking. Yeah. Two months. There's a two month membrane separating every single person on the planet from a completely different existence. It's just about a two month, maybe not even that long, but two month membrane that you got to push through.
Starting point is 00:45:00 There's a. There's something like that. There's something like statistic about what it takes, the length of time it takes to form a habit. Right. Something like that. Like six weeks or, I don't know, a hundred repetitions or something like that. So you can look it up.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Look it up, guys. Go to frenchcash.net. I can't think of that name. I was coming over here. I am French cash. Man, I am. What do you think about this, uh, this stuff in SA? What do you think about the shit going down the NSA right now?
Starting point is 00:45:31 What is it? Honestly, all that stuff lately, I've just been, I just stopped caring about it because I feel like there's so many things people talk, I heard some people talk over talking about, I overheard people talking about, um, technology like drone technology and surveillance technology about, oh, this is coming, that's coming. When the reality is that anything we're talking about coming is definitely pretty much here. Right. Like if it's not here, it's like months away, not years away.
Starting point is 00:45:57 It's just the matter of the time it takes for it to infiltrate mass media and societies is a little bit of ways away. Right. So all that stuff is inevitable, right? The ideas of, uh, robots being able to compete with humans, all of a sudden it's just inevitable. So sometimes I, lately I just sort of been disengaging from it because I find it's like, there's not really anything to talk about. It's like talking about the sun, is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:46:21 It's going to come up. Right. It's just how you deal with the inevitable change. Right. Yeah. I don't know what the new NSA stuff is though. Well, it's the, so it's basically, um, the NSA has been gathering phone records of everyone. But that's nothing new, right?
Starting point is 00:46:40 No, nothing new. I mean, it's, but it's relatively new. Right. But we knew what we've known about since Snowden, right? Since Snowden. So here's the NSA, uh, collecting all this fucking data on every single person. The idea is that if they identify one person who's a potential terrorist and they can look at who that person, the link, who that person's talked to, and then look at all the people
Starting point is 00:47:06 who that person's talked to. How many steps down the way can you be connected? Is it like, is it like Kevin Bacon kind of thing, seven degrees? It all leads to Kevin Bacon. That's what, that's the one who's behind getting this shit overturned is Kevin Bacon. Because from somehow, no matter what, you end up, which seems like Kevin Bacon keeps popping up. But yeah, it is like that.
Starting point is 00:47:25 But the main fucked up thing about it is that the government cannot collect data on every citizen. Yeah. You can't do that. You mean like physically or not allowed to? You're not allowed to constitute. You're not allowed to. You're not allowed to.
Starting point is 00:47:40 No. You can't do it. It's a, it's a spy state. It's a spy bureaucracy that we're paying for. And so Rand Paul, who I don't know too much about. He's a weird guy, man. He's like so polarizing. He's polarizing.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Some stuff he says. I'm like, you're a fucking asshole. Yeah. I have stuff I'm saying. He says like, like, why, why are you saying this? Does it make sense coming from you that you're, yeah, he just, he's very much that weird thing where he, you hate him and love him at the same time. Well, he, it looks like this son of a bitch is making a run for, is going to like really
Starting point is 00:48:10 is going for it to be president. And so this is all part of that. But what he did is he somehow managed to obstruct the Senate from, and forgive me, you guys, if I'm miss, if I'm saying this the wrong way, I don't know the exact process that he used, but Rand Paul managed to keep the Patriot Act as it's called. From renewing. From renewing. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:48:34 He got in the way of that shit. Cheers. Cheers. He got in the way of aspects of it renewing. Yeah. That's a big deal. It's a big fucking deal, man. And he pulled it off.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Now they are apparently this week going to try to get the thing back into place with something called the, guess the name of the new act. Guess the name of the new act. Oh, it's probably something really, some of this is called like a definitely if you don't vote for this, you like to touch children's genitals like that. The Children, the Children Protection, the Children, the Children General Protection Act of 2015. That's what it's called.
Starting point is 00:49:10 It's called the freedom act. Okay. There you go. The freedom act. Okay. It's the opposite of the freedom act. But that is some Orwellian shit, man. They've got it.
Starting point is 00:49:20 They've got it. They have no problem taking a thing that has nothing to do with freedom at all. Like completely not. It's like you might as well call it the volcano act. It's just branding. It's classic good branding. How dumb are these, how dumb do they think we are? Well, they know we're not dumb.
Starting point is 00:49:38 They know we don't care. No one gives a shit because no one reads, no one knows about anything that's going on. And if they do, they don't care enough to do anything about it. And if they do care enough to do anything about it, they can't do anything about it. So every window down the line becomes like, at the end, it's like 0.5% of people actually even know, care, and are willing to do something about it. But then it's like, they just, they know because there's all this government things that they've created over the years, since like, you could say it's been going on forever.
Starting point is 00:50:06 But there's this thing that happened a few years ago where they passed this restriction to bar congressional voting records and the congressional voting records and also investments of Congress members, they're supposed to be made public, so you can check for conflicts of interest. Right. It was an old thing. And what they did is in a no contest Friday vote where they, you don't have to, the senators don't have to be present to vote, overwhelmingly passed to not make these available.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And the only way you can view them is if you go to the fucking White House library and the very limited hours they're over, they're open and specifically request certain pages from certain senators documentation in paper format, which you can view and photocopy at the library. Wow. So basically no one has access to this stuff and it was a no contest vote, because they're all like, it's that same thing where no one, I hate you, you hate me, but we even more, we hate the White Walkers, which is like the citizens, we don't want them to fucking
Starting point is 00:51:09 know about us. We're the White Walkers. Yeah. The humans are the White Walkers. That's a Game of Thrones reference for those of you guys who don't know. So yeah, that, and that's kind of the cool thing about what Rand Paul did is that what it forces now, it forces whoever's for the goddamn thing to come out and say they're for it and whoever's against it to come out and say they're against it publicly creates
Starting point is 00:51:33 a debate. And the debate makes it so that any of these fucking loons who come out and they're like, listen, we need to monitor all civilians at all times. That's on the record forever. And so in campaign commercials, their adversaries can play them on the floor talking about how they want to monitor everybody and they're going to seem like fascists. And that's what they didn't want to have happen. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Because people actually do hate that. You can talk to dumb idiots in the street who don't know who the fucking vice president is. I'm pretty sure no one here you're talking to my grandma. Yeah, I'll say that in Times Square. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, we don't want that. And that's like a base.
Starting point is 00:52:12 That's that's like we have been, you know, born into that. That's a deep seated American. We don't get monitored by our government. This is not a fucking. This is like the Putin level shit and and and we don't do that. The fact that fucking Obama is I heard the creepiest Obama did a special message. Is it backwards? Yep.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yep. It's just, you know, that weird way as of talking or he's just like he did, you know, to the American people, we've got to keep the fact is we got to keep things safe. We got to keep things safe for you. Talk to a guy just yesterday, Jim, Jim Stevenson, hardworking guy, constituent, working hard to farm. We've got to keep him safe because the thing is, folks, uh, better one get bombed. I don't want to get bombed.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Michelle's going to get bombed. Leah and their child don't want to get bombed. Let's keep us. We get bombed. We're going to monitor you at all times. We're just going to take a look at your phone. Look, we can't tell you. We can't tell when we can't tell the content of the call.
Starting point is 00:53:16 But if there's a JPEG in the text, we can look at it and look at it and I have no reason to look at any of your emails or texts don't want to don't want a lot of time. But we need we need that ability. It's like, it's so creepy and it was so funny hearing him come out and that's why, you know, I don't know. The problem is I don't know enough about Rand Paul's politics outside of this. I've heard controversial shit, which I can't recall, just, uh, I'm not sure what his policy on marijuana is.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I'm not sure what his policy on, um, the prison industrial complex is. I don't know. I don't understand his drug policy. I don't know anything about it. I think a lot of that stuff, you're talking about the prison industrial complex and the marijuana stuff is pretty should fall in with typical libertarian stuff where it's like they don't care because they shouldn't care. Like maybe he has an opinion about it, but that's what Ron Paul used to always say.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Like Ron Paul obviously had his own personal opinions, but he'd say my personal opinions don't matter. How I feel about abortion doesn't matter because it's not for me to decide. It's for you to decide. Right. It's not, it's not my judgment. Right. Well, hopefully that's the way he sees things.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I don't know, but I do know that whatever he did, it created a little, you know, bump in the, in the way things are going. And you know, a lot of people, I tweeted something about it and a lot of skeptics are like tweeting back, don't believe that. Don't believe this. It doesn't matter what they say. It's still going to, they're still going to do what they want to do. There's nothing we can do about it.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Don't fall prey to this. It's, it's, it's wrestling, man. The whole thing's fake. Don't get sucked in. A wrestling, like, like professional wrestling, professional wrestling, you know, you're falling prey to it. Don't fall prey to it. These guys are all bought and sold and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Okay. Maybe so, but Ram Paul created enough turbulence that it's on the headlines of all newspapers, all newspapers. And he's a senator, right? Is he a senator? Yes. And that's a big deal. Cause most senators are just camp their money jockeys.
Starting point is 00:55:19 They don't, they vote, they vote exactly by whatever their, whatever their, um, their donor base tells them that. Yep. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. It's like, oh, you can have the most glorious, like freedom enhancing, um, fucking money bashing bill you ever could design and it passes in the house and it goes to the Senate and it just like, it's like throwing a fucking, like, like a, I don't know, it's like throwing
Starting point is 00:55:42 a rock on the ocean expecting it to float. Yeah. It's not going to happen. Not going to happen. Yeah. You build a stone boat and send it over to the Senate. Well, you know, man, and that was the other weird thing in Obama's fucking creepy ass address to the American people was he's like, you know, people are using this issue for politics.
Starting point is 00:56:00 You know, he's trying to, he's basically saying the reason Rand Paul is doing this is because he wants to get elected president, but it's like, it seems that there, that maybe that's the case, but if, if disrupting a surveillance state gets him elected president, that means that we don't want people monitoring us, which is why we would vote for him. That's why. Yeah. That's the whole point of it. It's the whole, it's the whole point.
Starting point is 00:56:28 So it seems very, very, that guy, man, I mean, there's so many things that have happened during Obama's presidency that I love the marijuana becoming legal, gay marriage, healthcare, healthcare to some degree. I know that's a controversial subject matter, but it shouldn't be controversial. I like the healthcare stuff. There is nothing cooler than after I had had cancer, calling up a fucking, I remember like calling my insurance insurance company to sign up for insurance and, and they were, they were just like, yeah, here's the plans.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Which one do you want? I'm like, don't you guys, aren't you guys going to check out my medical history or whatever? Or like, and the guy allowed to in a very grumpy way, the guy's like, we don't do that now. I mean, there's nothing I used to love more than looking up someone's medical history and giving them a big fat no, as I sit on my hemorrhoid donut shitting into a bucket and oh, I've cut out of this chair that I live in. You're going to die.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I'm sorry, but we can't help you or your kids. That stuff's cool, man. But the, this other stuff, the kind of like background monitoring, that kind of shit gives me the heebie-jeebies. It does. Yeah. And I got nothing to hide, man. I mean, everything that I, I, I say everything on this podcast, it's not even like I've got
Starting point is 00:57:57 anything to like that isn't complete public knowledge about me. Then you have nothing to worry about, Duncan. Right. But except the fact that you're monitoring me. Which just gives you a bad feeling. Yeah. It's like, don't go through my shit. There's nothing there, obviously.
Starting point is 00:58:12 It's not like I'm a fucking terrorist. You're not a terrorist. I'm not, I know, not at all. I have some sympathy, you know. Hello. You what? I'm a terrorist. I'm a fucking terrorist.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I'm a fucking terrorist. Yeah. A terrorist. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. A terrorist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Oh. Yeah. I am a terrorist. I can't do it right now. I am a terror. No one's a fucking, just stop all that shit. Well, that's the thing about terrorism now is it's kind of a slippery slope, right? Who is a terrorist?
Starting point is 00:58:51 Who isn't? It's like, if you're sympathetic toward ISIS, you're a terrorist sympathizer, which makes you a terrorist. I mean, how are you going to be fucking sympathetic towards ISIS anyway? People are. Who? No one's sympathetic towards. 16-year-old girls who are pissed at their parents.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Yeah, right. Yeah. I don't, I know if I was in high school right now, because I used to be a very pissed off young man, like drawing like, you know, bloody car accidents and shit like that, shit that's like, if, if it was, since it was pre-columbine, I didn't raise any red flags, but if I was doing that stuff now, people are like, we need to get them in something right. Me too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:32 You definitely would have been. Me too. I thought about doing terrible. I didn't do anything terrible because there's like that separation in your brain that allows you to not do the things you think about. Yeah. That's what kind of, what makes people not murderers and things like that. But to an outside observer, I'm sure it probably would have looked pretty bad, especially given
Starting point is 00:59:51 the things that happened after we got into high school. When I was in, I don't remember which class it was, but I remember like, my overwhelming feeling every day in high school was one of dread and resistance. Resistance, yeah. Because I felt that, I didn't want to be stuck in this maze of bullies and I- Just bureaucratic bullshit. Sitting and listening to people tell me facts in the most dry way. The whole thing sucked.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Asking for permission to use the bathroom. Oh yeah, that kind of shit. Yeah. Like, I'm a fucking human, man. I've got a piss. I've got a piss. And being forced into this dreadful situation, you would go and visit with the career person and take this ridiculous test and at the end of it, they would be like, oh, you should
Starting point is 01:00:41 consider a job. Public relations. That kind of shit where you're just like, well, wait. So you're saying that the life that I have to look forward to is one of sitting in an office doing public relations work or like, even in my college that I went to, there was a careers class you had to take where they taught you how to fill out resumes and shit. And I can remember like, just sitting in this class and the guy's teaching it is just a true fucking American pig.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And you like, you know, he'd wear a suit to class and he'd go through how important your resume was and how to dress for the interview and how to do a fucking interview. All this cow-towing to a hierarchical crap structure. And I can remember like sitting there and he's like, I don't know, I'm being obnoxious or whatever. And I think like I, on my resume, because I just had already decided at that point, there's no fucking way that I'm gonna, that if this is the fucking system, I guess I'm gonna get ground up by it.
Starting point is 01:01:36 But I, like, I gave, I've made a fake resume form that was just full of bullshit because I thought it was funny. And I remember in class after he looked at my resume in front of the class, he's like, Oh Duncan, I just want you to know that when you graduate, if you ever wanted me to give you a reference for a job, I'm not gonna do it. So he's like, yeah. Did you know that just happened just now? Yeah, it's cool.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Our sine waves, they passed in the middle and there was a, what's that called? It's called something. It's called a phasing. That's a, I was, that was a natural sine phase just now. That was kind of cool. Phasing. I hope that picked up on there. But yeah, that's, I mean, it's normal.
Starting point is 01:02:22 It's like, so the translation of that, the translation of that is, I, if I can damage your future for not bending down to my authority and pretending that my paradigm is the right paradigm, then I will hurt you if I can. Those are always people who are damaged people. You look back on it now and you think like, it can't help but feel bad for those people because you know that they're angry about all kinds of things because they're doing something that they don't want to do and sad because you are. No, this guy was doing just what he fucking wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I don't think so. This purveyor of a doom paradigm. Yeah, but he's sad because his life sucks. Well, no, I don't think his life sucked. This guy, like every morning it pretends he's fucking, what's his face from Wall Street? He was unhappy. He's like somebody giving fucking lessons to baby pigs about how to fight off other baby pigs to suckle at the nipple of Satan.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Fuck these career people. Fuck your career and you're teaching me how to fucking, you're not teaching me, you're not teaching me how to do a job. You're teaching me how to manipulate people. How to be shitty, how to be hateful, how to not do what you want to do, not be happy. Teach me how not to be happy. You're putting me in a fucking thought prison, man. In high school, this paradigm is being espoused again and again and again and again about
Starting point is 01:03:52 a certain way that you're supposed to live and if you don't live in that way, then I can remember when I was in high school, there was a mural on the wall of one of my teacher's class. She taught history and the mural had been painted there years and years and years ago in the glory days by students and it was just like in the 50s. Nothing spookier than an old mural, man, an old muddied, kind of dripping mural. Like when people's faces looked like they kind of been injured in an accident and reassembled. Poorly done.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Poorly done mural, horror movie level mural, the kind of mural where you had the pasty feet. The kind of mural that's at the Hollywood Improv. Yes, which is weird because that's a brand new mural and it already looks spooky. If you guys want to see a spooky mural, look up the Hollywood Improv mural. That one's going to take you down a rabbit hole, man. That's some gender-bending shit. It creates some severe cognitive dissonance because you don't understand why because the
Starting point is 01:05:00 Improv's a great club, man. It's great. And you look at the mural and it's like, well, I want to love this. I don't, though. I kind of love it because of what it is. You know what I mean? I love it because it's like the same reason you love folk art. Maybe that's, maybe, you know, who knows.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Maybe that's why the artist did it, but there, you know, a guy managed to get some dolphins into a goddamn... What's the dolphin doing there? I think it represents the... It's a dolphin with sunglasses. Yeah. Yeah, he got a dolphin with sunglasses. He managed to get, he managed to get, like, it's like he went down to Venice Beach and
Starting point is 01:05:33 like took a picture of the, like, a pithy t-shirt with a dolphin with sunglasses on it and put it on the Improv mural. But anyway, this woman, she, yeah, somebody broke into the fucking school and just erased her mural. What do you mean, erased it, painted over it with white? No, like, used something to, it was a chalk mural. Like, somehow they preserved it, Johnny. I don't know how.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Okay. They preserved it there and dissolved the mural. So we come to her class, I was in the first period class with her, we come to her class, we sit down, you look over, it's just like that mural would mock you as you're sitting and listening to a dry recitation of American history and an uncomfortable chair and a way earlier than you need to be taking in information. Probably with a boner, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:29 With a morning, a hard high school morning boner that you don't even want. Some fresh bruises flowering on your arm from where some asshole punched you because you're a weirdo. You got punched? Oh yeah, I got bullied. I think it punched you. See, you're sitting there just like kind of like in it already, just like, well, another day in the fucking penal colony for teenagers and you look over and the mural has been
Starting point is 01:06:50 defaced. And everyone in the classrooms looking around, they're like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. And she comes in, she gets right into the whatever the fuck she was teaching and it takes a few beats and she realizes the feeling in the class is weird and she looks over and God damn it if that mural isn't defaced. And she starts crying. It was very sad.
Starting point is 01:07:15 That is sad as hell. It was sad. It was sad. Nobody deserves that. Oh, and a teacher, an older female teacher, it's probably just a, you know, but it's like, come on, man, you're teaching about American history. You know that things in this country tend to fall apart, including your mural. Abruptly.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah. It's like you're attached to this mural. Hey, how about you let it, how about you put a fucking mural, a new mural up? Yeah. How about you put some colors on the fucking wall instead of us having to sit by this dreary old fucking creepy mural? I want some progress instead of gripping onto the past as tightly as you possibly can. It's not the goddamn 70s anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:51 God damn it. We're human beings. We deserve a new mural. But anyway, so, you know, whatever, everyone's sitting there. They don't know how to react. And what happens is she apparently gives her list of suspected mural defacers to the principal and you're on it. And I'm on it.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I knew it. And I get called into the fucking principal's office and I'm sitting there and he's like, did you, did, were you Duncan Tressel? I have here on good accord from Miss McClatchy that you are suspected to have defacing. Now I won't even call it defacing because it's much worse. I'm destroying the mural in her classroom. What do you have to say for yourself, Duncan? I didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Okay. Is there a reason you can provide some sort of proof about that? Because it seems to me that you've been saying some things in class and acting in a way that Miss McClatchy can't help but feel like you're a prime suspect. You're a smart boy. We know that. We know you can probably figure how to get in here and leave no trace. He even did one of these.
Starting point is 01:08:52 He did one of these where he's like, Duncan, we know. That you are a part of the people who defaced that mural. Duncan, look, Duncan, Duncan, I like you. Your family's been in this community for a number of years but we know you defaced the mural. And there's two ways out of this. You can be hard about this and deny it all you want or you can just confess it up and talk about it and we'll figure out an appropriate punishment for an action of this sort that
Starting point is 01:09:16 it's uncalled for. So Duncan, tell us why you did it. I didn't do it. Duncan, look, I don't have all day. There's a couple other people on this list but I know who's doing it. I know you work with some people. Look, you don't have to blame me. You don't have to tattle.
Starting point is 01:09:33 I know you don't want to. I bet they twisted your arm into doing it, didn't they? I bet they twisted your arm. It's like, Duncan, I know you're a good boy. I know you probably got twisted into this. That is exactly what happened. And the final thing that he said to me was, he goes, Duncan, when he realizes I haven't done it, he can tell, he goes, Duncan, it looks to me that your life has gotten off
Starting point is 01:09:56 on the wrong track. Now, this was, is like stuck with me ever since then because it's, I remember leaving there and thinking, is my life really on the wrong track? Oh, it's so influenced. Like, is it on the wrong track? Is it, is it, now he, now the truth of the matter was, I mean, I was taking LSD whenever I could. Really?
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it was one of our favorite pastimes was you would acquire LSD and you would take it in the morning, go to fucking, go to school on acid. Oh man, that's cool. I didn't do that. You would do that whenever you could because, you know, it was like, otherwise you're in this. Yeah, it's a way to get out.
Starting point is 01:10:37 And you're seeing all this stuff, you know, that you normally wouldn't see. Those of you who are in high school, I'm not recommending that you do this. I'm not, it's, I'm not, I recommend you don't. I recommend you do it on Christmas break or some shit and do it at a river. We do, we do not know, Johnny doesn't recommend that anybody who is under the legal age do any kind of illegal anything. We're not saying to do it because in my old age, I've learned that you can get much more out of that substance from a very responsible usage of it, but, but we, we, this is how
Starting point is 01:11:10 we used to spend time back in the, in the, in the, those days. And so anyway, the, the, the, the fucking, the, the, the fact that our children are being jammed into these goddamn hell mazes with their minds being infected with these kinds of like darts, these toxic darts, like that, that principle really could have, I bet you, if he'd wanted to at that moment. Got you to suck his dick. I would have, I did suck his dick. He could have easily got me to suck his dick.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I bet that he could have though, he could have like done a lot of good for me at that moment. Like he could have really just been like, well, I had teachers that did both. You know, I definitely had some teachers that did a lot of good and I felt like I owe them a lot of stuff. It just, it's always that there's always both. I feel like most schools, I think most schools are both, well, these days, teachers are in hell.
Starting point is 01:12:09 These teachers are in hell, man. I mean, these are, these teachers, these days, they're underpaid. Oh, they're all severely underpaid. Yeah, they're just, yeah. It's, it's fucking. They're not getting enough money, man. These teachers should be getting. They never have, though.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Dr. Salaries. I don't think it's ever happened. It's never, it'll probably never will, it never has happened where teachers at that level get anything what they're probably deserved. No. They don't get paid what they deserve. But to be able to spend money on shit like $80,000 radar flights to check on a bomb site for a fucking drone strike at a wedding.
Starting point is 01:12:41 That's it. That's the guy spending, I guess, spending a $5 million drone recon strike. That's it. Yeah, we, because that's, you know, and really that's where the, the, the horror, the secret hidden horror of it all comes, really comes into play, which is that every time you hear about a drone strike or every time you hear about how the United States is dropping bombs on ISIS or every time you hear about any kind of military action that the United States is responsible for in any part of the world.
Starting point is 01:13:11 You are hearing money being removed from the bank accounts of teachers and placed in the bank accounts of weapons manufacturers. We would rather pay our weapons, we would have teachers are sculptors of life. Weapons manufacturers are sculptors of death. And we like to give money to those sculpting doom instead of giving money to those sculpting our children. That's the thing is we don't like to, it's just we, the powers in the hands of so few and everything's obfuscated to the point where you can't see what's happening.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Like the best thing to look up right now is I think it's the F 35, the new fighter jet program that right now is a black hole of such significant proportions that anyone, even the most lightly educated person to read it would read about this shit would just be like, you're fucking kidding me. They have spent something like, I don't even know, I want to say a hundred billion dollars. Some astronomical amount of money on a jet that literally does not fly at all. It's not to supply keeps starting on fire and they keep ordering more of them. Why?
Starting point is 01:14:19 It's like this thing where like, you know, remember they're trying to fix that oil well problem. The, the one in the, the one in the Gulf of Mexico recently, I kept doing stuff where it's like they would do something that wasn't working and they thought if you do more of what's not working, it'd make it work. So it's the same thing where they're funneling more money into this program thinking it will fix it when it's just making it more of a boondoggle and it's such an extreme amount of money for this fucking fighter jet that doesn't even work that to read about it, you
Starting point is 01:14:46 just like, you can't help but be flabbergasted at the, the disparity between like that money. If you took like a 10% of that money and spent it on schools, you would have fucking like the best schools in the entire world 10 times over. That's all it take all because it's fucking fighter jet that came and fly. That, see, this is, this is the, it's like, it's just maddening. This is why we've got to turn our attentions in the direction of what, and this is a fun thing to imagine. And no matter how, like, because a lot of, it's really interesting how the power of
Starting point is 01:15:22 imagination in your own mind has security guards that if you decide to imagine something that's too ridiculous, you'll actually get an alarm system set off in your brain, which is like, that'll never happen. So don't even bother thinking about it. And it's funny if you really want to get in a deep woo, woo shit. It's funny if the great architects have already recognized the fact that the force of human attention is so powerful that it tends to shape reality and they've managed to condition the human mind with these internal force fields to keep all of us from imagining these kinds
Starting point is 01:15:52 of utopian societies because they know if enough people did it, it would move in that direction. But just for fun, if you just imagine somehow by some miracle, all war ends, right? All that money goes into the schools. Now imagine what a high school would look like if it had added to its budget the economy of the military industrial complex where kids are sitting in these like really nice fucking chairs. The teachers are getting paid $200,000 a year and it's a very competitive, competitive,
Starting point is 01:16:27 competitive industry where people, where if you get hired as a fucking public school teacher, it's the same as like getting, getting in at like a Harvard or Princeton or something. Or working at Northrop Grumman as a fucking warhead designer. Yes, yes, yes. Where these fucking teachers who are teaching these classes are so smart and they've, you know, they've really, really had to like just go through a billion interviews to get into the fucking job and now kids are getting these incredible educations. Imagine that.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Imagine what that school would look like. What the bathrooms would look like. Imagine what the lockers would look like. It would be great. But there's also a think about that. I also think about the opposite of it is like some of the things that I like more than anything in the world were created in the most difficult of circumstances, right? Like like reggae music or any music for that matter.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Yeah. If you think about any music you like, chances are did not come from a person who had a lot of money to spend. And that's true. It's the opposite. Like there's always like things that happen. So I like you're saying my favorite flowers are the ones that grow from the sidewalk cracks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:31 But it's true. Cause like you think about anything, any type of repression has always created the greatest art. Yeah. But let me tell you something. Not that we need to. I want to test that fucking theory because I think that if we like, if we started treating kids in high schools and junior high schools like they were human fucking beings and not
Starting point is 01:17:49 like cattle that were moving into the goddamn corporatocracy slaughterhouses. If we, I don't even know if that made sense at all, but it makes sense. Slaughterhouses, the corporatocracy, the mind slaughterhouses, if we start treating these fucking kids with the respect that we would give goddamn Napoleon, who wasn't much older than some of these kids, if we recognize that these, these fucking kids have just as much potential as the Steve Jobs and treat every single one of them with the same respect and care that we treat our warheads with, then I think that we, this within a few fucking generations, this country would invent teleportation or a time machine or who knows what?
Starting point is 01:18:34 That's all. It's fun to imagine. It's great to imagine. I think it's all, it definitely makes sense. It's about respect. It's about respecting. Instead of telling someone what they could do, it's telling someone, oh, you can do whatever you want to do.
Starting point is 01:18:46 And we're treating you like that. Yeah. And the food. The food, yeah, that's a big thing. Imagine how good the food at high schools would get if we had the military industrial complexes money, where these kids are getting fed four-star meals. The chefs there are like incredible chefs. It's all sustainable.
Starting point is 01:19:02 It's all local. Everything is run on solar or like, run on like minimal programs that use renewable resources. All that stuff. Delicious food, entertainment, during lunch, that stuff kids would like. It's happening in certain places. It is happening in certain places. And I feel like as much as it is disheartening to learn about the disparity in money being spent for education versus military, to all these places now, they're really successful
Starting point is 01:19:32 smaller charter-type schools that are having that, implementing that type of thing. And I feel like it's something that will, if it's an idea that's good, it will spread. It'll spread. I sure hope so. I think I'd like to hope it will spread. If you think about it, it will spread. That kids need, and with the continued legalization of marijuana, a reduction in the prescription of ADD medication, they get to get prescribed powerful sativas so that you could, instead
Starting point is 01:20:01 of getting the shitty goddamn pharmaceutical dreck in your brain, you're getting to enjoy getting the best information that we have, that's being given to you in an entertaining way by super trained teachers while under the influence of super potent strains of God bless America, marijuana. That, and also just, here's what we saw of everything in an instant. All you have to do is in every school, all you have to do is teach meditation, that we fix everything. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:34 If you teach meditation to kids, it is, it's like fucking, it's like the cure-all. That needs to be at least two hours of the day or dedicated to meditation and relaxation. There needs to be an every, I mean it would be an explosive reaction. It would be something where it would fucking burn the goddamn world down with this wild fire of the kind that doesn't burn things. You know what I mean? Like, like a positive fire, I don't know what that would be about. That positive, well we don't know, but it would be something that would be very healing
Starting point is 01:21:02 and everyone's like, oh we gotta compete with fucking China. Yeah. No we don't. We don't have to compete with shit. We've gotta make our kids happy so that they can be happy adults so that our society can prosper in the way that it needs to prosper. That, that's, if you wanna compete with China, that's how you do it, just get the kids meditating. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:21 You'll be on the same wavelength and we'll all be on the same vibrational frequency where there is no competition. Yes. So this is one big push forward, this big oof. You poor kids out there, man. You guys need spas in your school, you know. They need spas. Like there needs to be.
Starting point is 01:21:35 I'll tell you what I could have used. What? This little place to go and get an anonymous hand job as a 16-year-old just to blow off that steam, man. There's so much building up in that steam factory now. All the fucking, get it out of me. So that's another thing, man, you know, cause maybe with like, get it out as we develop robotic technology that could be in the spas.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Just dump that, just pump and dump. It's funny how like, you're like a printed one with breasts, you don't have to know up, you have to pump your breasts if you're pregnant. Yeah. Right? Cause it's like, it hurts. It builds up and it hurts. I mean, I remember being in high school and just like, I don't want this boner.
Starting point is 01:22:14 You're right. It was a nightmare. God. Cause that was an inevitability in high school. Get this rock hard sword away from me. You're right, man. That's so, I like that our high school rant started off with like something that kind of makes sense.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Teachers get paid more. Let's, let's. Teach meditation. That's what we ended with. Let's get the marijuana and hand jobs and all the things fell apart. Well, you know, if they meditate enough, they'll get their shit together and they can figure out a way to make everyone happy. Meditation makes sense.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Uh, I could, but the, but yeah, I don't know, man, but you know, the, um, the, it is possible though. All these things are possible. Yeah. We don't have to torture our children to make them better people and we don't have to make our teachers this whole fucking thing where you, the government decides what teachers have to standard. I don't know what it's called.
Starting point is 01:23:03 There's a name. The standardized testing thing. This whole bullshit where the teachers are forced to teach specific things at certain times. No. I haven't seen the John Oliver show much. No. It's pretty great.
Starting point is 01:23:14 I got to say, I watch it every time I'm like, wow, I didn't know that about that thing. And now I wish I didn't know about that because it's maddening. You talk about that whole issue of standardized testing how this teacher is like, I have a, I have three graduate degrees in English and I got a bad score on this English test because it's the same thing where all the companies are in bed with the people who are paying them. So it's just this, this is a classic case of, uh, everything like the same way everything is bought and paid for.
Starting point is 01:23:42 So they're, they haven't, they have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. Well, listen to this, friends. We got to go. It's heating up in my podcast studio, but my dear darlings, you can change the world. All you got to do is start with yourself and then the flowers of paradise can grow into this country. I'm trying to throw it sing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Let's, let's both throw it sing. Thank you, Johnny. Thanks Duncan. Hare Krishna. John Rastafari. Thanks for listening pals. Thanks to harrys.com for sponsoring this episode. If you liked this podcast, why not go to iTunes and give us a nice rating.
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