Duncan Trussell Family Hour - Paul Selig

Episode Date: August 25, 2017

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Boy, do we have an occult blazer for you today. Today's guest is a world-renowned channeler. And this is the very first time on the DTFH that I have ever had multiple guests in one body. Because not only is Paul Selig with us today, but also the guides are here. The beings that come through Paul Selig and have used him to write five books.

Channeling, right? It's weird. And I bet a lot of you are quite skeptical about it. I remain agnostic. I was in the presence of this phenomena. And without ruining or spoiling it for you, because I don't want to set any kind of preconceived notions in your head about what you're about to hear,

I will say that sitting next to him was incredibly intense. There was definitely a feeling of something coming out of him that was more than words. And what that is, I don't know. I'll tell you this. One thing's for certain, anthropologically, there is a precedent in human history for shamans to become conduits for entities that give direction

to the tribe. This is not a new phenomena. It's been happening for a long time. It happens in many different religions, both indigenous and established religions. So I think even the Dalai Lama has an oracle that channels beings, that give the Dalai Lama guidance. So as far out as something like this may seem,

it's not a new thing. It's been happening for a really long time. And so I'm not going to say much more about it, except that sitting next to him was supremely intense. And I think it was also really intense for a lot of people in the audience at the live show at the Bell House. So strap in, friends, because you're about to have whatever calcified barriers grown

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Okay, friends, let's do this. Today's guest is a medium and channeler who has channeled five books. You can find out everything you need to know about him by going to paulselic.com. Links will be at dunkitrustle.com. Much thanks to Ken Jordan from Alchemist's Kitchen for hooking this up,

and as always, much thanks to The Bell House for allowing us to do live podcasts there. I'm going to Burning Man, I'm gonna be traveling a little bit, so we're taking a little hiatus, but we should be back right around, probably October and December. The dates will be at dunkitrustle.com when they happen.

Also, thank you, Emile Amos, who you're about to hear play some beautiful music at the beginning of this episode. All the links you need to get to Emile and Paul will be at dunkitrustle.com. Now everyone, please spread out your astral wings, send that sweet beam of heart love erupting from the Yellowstone geyser of your heart,

and let it spread through the universe to intertwine and wrap around Paul Selig, Emile Amos, and the beautiful guides. Welcome to a live DTFH, here we go. Welcome to the Dunkin' Chessle Family Art Podcast. Welcome, welcome on you, that you are with us, we'll shake hands, don't give up,

welcome to you. It's the Dunkin' Chessle Family Art Podcast. Hey everybody, welcome to the Dunkin' Chessle Family Art Podcast. For usual, we are going to start the show with the wonderful and amazing Emile Amos. I found him by the stage last night, he was breathing his last breath. His last breath.

A needle full of heroin was all that he had lived. I can tell that you make music because you carry your guitar. But Heaven saved the troubadour that wants to be a star. So play those chords of love, my friends. Play those chords again. But if you choose to keep your souls,

don't, don't, don't. Don't play those chords of fame, chords of fame, chords of fame. They'll rob you of your innocence, they'll put you up for sale. The more that you will find success, the more that you will fail.

I've been around, I've had my share, and I feel I can come play. I don't see anything true or pure on that other side of fame. But play those chords of love, my friends. Play those chords again. But if you choose to keep your souls, don't, don't, don't.

Don't play those chords of fame, chords of fame, chords of fame, chords of fame. This is like an Amman card thing I do. Last time I forgot the words, because I've been playing a lot of covers. Some girl sitting right here was like,

No. Wait, you remember this story? Shit. She was like, play something else, dude. I was like, God, you're so patient when you're owning. But not when you're anywhere else in life, right? In lines and shit. This is an ancient song.

It's one of Duncan's favorites. It's 20 years old and I have trouble playing it because of what it's about. I looked as hard as I could to my perverse nightmares. I came out looking like the saints. And everyone I know that still believes in evil, they have so much to learn. I've been a rebel against what is vicarious life.

I got to get the quick conduct tonight and discard all habits you will need. Because I love everything. And I know that's not easy to say. I love everything and sometimes I'm wondering if it's not something you all want to hear. So I'm gonna believe in tomorrow. I'm gonna believe in tomorrow.

I'm gonna believe in tomorrow. I've been a rebel against what is vicarious life. I got to get the quick conduct tonight and discard all habits you will need. Because I love everything. And I know that's not easy to say. I love everything unless somebody just doesn't want to hear. I love everything.

Emile Amos everybody, let him hear it. Hi, how's it going you guys? Hey, welcome, welcome, how are you tonight you guys? Good, this is so wonderful to see you all here tonight. Because this is the most excited I've ever been about any of my live shows. And I think it's a really great time to have this kind of live show. But before I get into that, how many people are here for the first time? Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

So I'm just gonna let you know how we do this so that you know what to expect. Basically, what we're gonna do is have this wonderful conversation with one of the world's most renowned clairvoyance happens to be with us here tonight, which is really amazingly cool to me. Also, what's super cool about this is that he's agreed to, we're gonna take questions at the end. So anybody who wants to talk to him or his guides, there's a microphone here and you'll be able to ask him questions. What's really interesting about Paul is that the way this stuff works, none of it's like if it comes through, it comes through. If it doesn't come through, that's okay. Because Paul minus the guides is a pretty awesome fella from my research into him in the few minutes I've had to chill with him backstage. So it's gonna be super cool.

And before we get the show going, one of the things that I always do at these live shows is to get all of us to do the OM together. And to do that for a little bit longer than any of us feel comfortable doing that for, which is the perfect amount of time to do it. And so after we do the OM, I'm gonna do the opening monologue rant thing that you hear if you listen to my podcast. Now, the thing about that is it takes me a long time to do those, believe it or not. It doesn't just come out of me. It takes like sometimes a couple of days of feeling like I'm completely out of my fucking mind sitting in front of the microphone, trying to say something that makes any kind of sense at all. And so these things take some time.

Whereas up here, I just get one chance to roll through it. I can't stop and press rewind and listen to it and think, who the fuck do you think you are, man? What are you doing? You're crazy. So I just like to get, because I consider podcasting it to be a collaborative event. It's not just me. It's me and my guests. It's not just me and my guests. It's the community around the podcast, which is here tonight. So I like to get ideas from you guys about what we should talk about.

So does anybody want to give some suggestions about what this opening rant should be about tonight? Crowley. What? Crowley. Alistair Crowley. Okay, that's cool. What's going on in Charlottesville? What do you mean? What?

Charlottesville. Oh, Charlottesville. You mean where they have that beautiful statue of Robert E. Lee? What a beautiful statue. I mean, what else is there to say? It's an amazing place. I mean, God, I always travel there to look at that beautiful statue of Robert E. Lee. Okay, cool.

Yeah. Yeah, okay. We could do that for a second. Sure. Of course. It's obviously floating in all of our heads. No problem. What else?

Yeah. There isn't an environment, man. That's fake news. What else? Zebras. Summertime zebras in the eclipse. Okay, that's enough. I think I do some with that.

All right, cool. Well, I guess we're just going to go ahead and get this thing going and then we're going to start the arms. So let me get ready to do this. Here we go. Are we recording? Are we cool? Hello, my sweet friends. It is I, Dee Trussell, and thou art listening to the Duncan Trussell Family Hour podcast being recorded live from the Bell House in Brooklyn.

Tonight is a very special night because we have a clairvoyant and a channeler here with us tonight. And so I want to set the energy of the room to be as conducive as possible to tuning in to higher dimensional entities. And so I have with us here tonight the perfect man for the job. Everybody, a giant round of applause for Robert Ryan, who's going to lead us in the Olm and a prayer. Give him a round of applause, everybody. Everybody. Oh, wait, shit. Hold on.

Don't pray yet, man. I forgot to light the incense. I forgot to light it. Thank you so much. Yeah, no problem. This is incense that Robert gave me at comes from Vrindavan, which is where Krishna was born. And that was his birthday was yesterday. Jhamastami.

So this is good shit. So I'm just going to light this and then you guys just pass it around. I mean, don't, you can't smoke. So since we have a medium coming as a guest tonight, I thought it would be proper to do evocation to Lord Shiva, who is known as Botanath, which is the master of ghosts. Perfect. Yeah. What are you? Yes.

Yeah. Shiva. Namashiva. So we'll do a group home together. The meaning of home is very, very, there's, it's one syllable. It's the mono syllable, but it contains so much. So everyone has a very hard time explaining what it means, but it contains the three letters A, U and M. And these are sounds that your body can make without your tongue, you know, so it's the three, three sounds that your body could make not using your tongue.

Your tongue makes all the sounds in between for all the syllables. So these are natural syllables and these sounds exist. Anywhere that someone spent time doing any kind of inner work, any realized soul who spent time in quiet comes with, comes to Om. With the Christians, we have Amen. With Muslims, we have home. In the Hindu faith, we have Om. And with babies, you have Ma. Ma.

You know. So we'll start with three deep breaths and then we'll Om together. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om.

Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om.

Thank you, man. You know, I texted one of my friends, what are you doing for the eclipse? And he wrote back, nothing you fucking hippie. But I'm, you know, I'm proud to say that the eclipse creeps me out. I'm proud to say that I haven't reached a place of disconnect with the universe to not feel how spooky this event that is happening is for a lot of different reasons. Just the basic surface level stuff that's happening, which is that hundreds of thousands of people are right now in route right now, probably beginning their travels to get into the line of the totality to watch this eclipse happen. That's a crazy thing to think of so many of us, you know, like any kind of swarming flocking herding species that is summoned or drawn by cosmological influences to flow like a river into a place where the moon is going to perfectly block out the sun. That's just spooky by itself.

Like if you were just watching some alien planet and you knew that every once in a while, many of them gathered together to stand underneath nighttime in the middle of the day. You'd be like, that is a fucking trippy species, man. Why are they doing that? And then we look into the way some towns are planning on like celebrating it. You know, it's interesting because sometimes we're going to have eclipse music. Jimmy Buffett's going to play during the total eclipse, you know, like, and which is cool. But many of my friends that I've talked to, some astrologers, some initiated Buddhists, they've said this isn't like a lot of cultures don't consider this. A fun day.

Like they don't look at this as like what you would necessarily call like a great omen. And for me personally, what's flipping me the fuck out is that it just so happens that preceding this eclipse, we have begun to enjoy something our parents and grandparents used to enjoy a lot more than us. Which is the fear of being incinerated by nuclear fucking blast. That's always fucked up. But when it's happening right before a fucking eclipse, cutting through our country, it's like, come on, who's riding this shit? It's cheesy. It's cheesy, right? Like in a movie, that wouldn't work.

Like if you were writing a movie about some potential nuclear armageddon, you're like, and it's going to happen right around an eclipse. You'd be like, tone it down, Gerald. No one's going to buy that shit. And then on top of that, on top of that, we have this terrible stuff that's happening where what I'm pretty sure is a relatively small group of people. Hopefully, even though no amount of them is good, is apparently coming out of the shadows and feeling okay about promoting white nationalism, fascism, and just the general chaos when you watch what happened. It's horrifying, really, to think that it's gotten to the point where we're just beating each other with flags. And I'm a pretty positive guy most of the time. And I find myself being a little cynical.

I don't know if it's just because I was just in a hotel in Portland watching Fox News, which is essentially like finding where Satan's fucking Porta John is and swimming in it. Why do I smell so bad? It's because you've been swimming in the source of all evil shit for the last couple of days. But I think a lot of us are a little, we're a little rattled right now. And because there's just too many weird things happening all at once. There's a lot of turbulence happening right now. And something occurred to me that really gives me the heebie-jeebies, which is right now, this is as normal as it's ever gonna be. Like today, this is the most normal it's gonna be.

It's not like it's some point two weeks from now, a month from now, three years from now. We're gonna be sitting around like, oh yeah, everything got back to normal after that weird little couple of years. No. The thing that we're in right now is the thing. It's the thing. And by the thing, I mean the thing Terrence McKenna talked about. The thing Ray Kurzweil's talked about. The thing that almost every single culture has talked about happening right around this time.

It's the thing. You know? And we're all kind of feeling it. And the thing is change. Exponential change. And we're all feeling it. And the big hanging question mark, at least in my head, is what am I supposed to do? What do we do?

How much longer do we just, how much longer do we keep doing this thing? We go to work. We act like everything's cool. Shit, you know, it's just like, I guess the president is like kind of vaguely associated with white nationalists. Sort of maybe a little bit hesitant when it comes to saying that he doesn't like Nazis. But you know, we're just gonna keep fucking going to work and like doing our thing. Like that's the question is, what do we do every single day? And when do we do something more?

And what is it? Surely it's not going and fucking beating mealy white dudes with bats. Surely there's something more to do than throwing urine on people or beating them into bloody pulps. I don't know. Maybe that's the right response. I don't know. I don't think it is though. I always think what the fuck would Ramdas do, you know?

And I don't see Ramdas in the Antifa wearing fucking bandanas and pledging 21 year old's dress like they're fucking like the way my dad used to make me try to dress. The way they're dressed is exactly the way my dad, when we went shopping, he's like khaki pants, white shirt. That's your outfit. But are we supposed to beat these kids? Last night I was talking to Korra and I'd worked myself into a froth after looking at like the dumb ass who drove his car, the murderer drove his car into those sweeties. Terrorists, yeah. I wish there was a better name than something even worse than terrorist, you know? Because what?

Nazis, even worse, we need a new word for evil. Because Nazi and terrorist, I think it doesn't even work, you know? It's like Nazi's a dated term for something to happen in Germany. Terrorist is too ambiguous. These people are like, what? Demons. I think they're more like golems. You know what I mean?

Because like a demon is this like kind of like, there's something seductive about a demon, right? Like a demon, you know, a demon's gonna fucking like you. When you hang out with a demon, you might be like, you know, this demon kind of makes some sense. I kind of like what this demon's up to, man. It's kind of cool. Like even the fucking Nazis, right? You look at their outfit, not their philosophy. Remove their philosophy and just look at the outfit and tell me that doesn't look cool as shit, man.

Designed by Hugo Boss. Kind of fucking cool. So calling them Nazis, it's like, I don't know, man. There's nothing, they're like golem. They're pathetic and they're sad and they're lost and maybe unconvertible. Maybe really there is no way to sit down with them. Maybe. I don't know.

That's one of the big arguments is what, are we gonna fucking sit down and listen to their goddamn economic fucking plan? Really, you want to sit down and listen, you know where this shit goes. We know by now where it goes. And where it goes is not where you want to fucking be. And that's Florida. No, just kidding, I like Florida. These people are like golems, you know, they're pathetic. And I don't mean pathetic, like, yeah, pathetic.

I mean, they're there to, you know, I was just listening to fucking Day Lost Soul, their new album, First Track, Genesis. It's this beautiful poem. I don't have it quite memorized, but the poem goes something along the lines of when, when is it, when do you love something? Do you love something when it's a success, when it's easy to love? No, that's not when you love something. You love something when it's been beaten so fucking bad that it's lost its truth. When it's been beaten by the world so fucking bad that it doesn't know its way anymore. That's when a thing needs the most love.

So how do we find a way to love tiki dudes? Without being contaminated by them. Without giving the impression that we embrace or accept or uphold anything that has to do with fascism or oppression. How do you find love for them? How do you find a more nuanced way of dealing with this problem than breaking their fucking heads open and inviting one of them, the inevitable one of them, to do something even worse than driving a fucking car into innocent people? I don't know the answer to that, but here's what's beautiful about tonight's guest. He is a world-renowned clairvoyant and channeler.

He has channeled five books, five books, and has made contact with, I don't know what the right word would be for it, and I think he'll answer that for us, extra-dimensional teachers. And he's a conduit, and a lot of their teachings are beautiful, beautiful things. And so, everybody, if I could please get a gigantic round of applause for tonight's guest, Paul Selig, everybody, let him hear it! Thank you so much for being here tonight, Paul. I thought it'd be cool to just start off, I don't wanna spend a lot of time on biography, but I think for people here who may not be familiar with you, it'd be cool to talk about what it means to be a clairvoyant, a channeler, and my first question for you is, when did it start? When did you realize that you had this ability?

You know, I was raised something of an atheist, and when I was about 25 years old, I was about a year out of graduate school at Yale, and I had hit a real wall, I'd had a list of things in my life that I thought I had achieved to make me okay in the world. And I got the whole list, and I wasn't okay. And I was a playwright, and I was working on an opera for the Minnesota Opera, and I was stuck in a hotel room, the Gopher Campus Motor Lodge in St. Paul, with a giant gopher on a spit outside my window, and I was unable to find drugs in St. Paul. You know, I knew I was in a crisis, I don't know if I could have named the crisis, but I was in one, and the Gideons leave these books in the drawers, you know, and I took it out, and it said, prayer for people in crisis. And I read it, you know, I mean, I was a total atheist, but I read the prayer, and three days later I heard a voice,

telling me to get my act together, and how to do it. So, you know... Can I ask you, do you remember what the prayer was specifically? I have no idea. I have no idea, you know, I mean, I remember much about those days, to be honest with you, but I remember that. And you know... Where were you exactly when this voice came to you? I was waking up, and I looked around my room, and I knew nothing was going to change, unless I changed. And I heard a voice. You heard a voice like...

Well, it's different than what... You see, I'm a clear audience primarily, you've introduced me as a clairvoyant, and that's something that I am able to access, but a clear audience primarily hears. I'm a clear audience and clear sentient. And so, when I hear, it's not a voice in the room, it's really like a voice intrudes upon your own consciousness and blocks out your own thoughts. If you can imagine a voice coming to the forefront of your mind, that would usually be a thought that you would never ever think yourself. That is not in your voice and is not in your vocabulary, even. And that was how it started.

A few months later, I went up to the roof of my building in Chelsea. I was living in Chelsea, and it was the night of this thing called the harmonic convergence. It's like 30 years to the week, I think it is now. And I heard people were going to be waking up. And so, I had gone from this place of not believing in anything to suddenly believing that there was something, I didn't quite understand what that could be. But you, as an atheist, skeptic, hearing a voice, surely you thought, oh, this is brain tumor, this is schizophrenia. Yeah, well, not yet.

I got to that point a little later. I went up to the roof and I asked to be woken up on this night. And I ended up having a bit of an experience that people later said sounded like a spontaneous Kundalini awakening or something called a Shaktipa. Had you taken any psychedelics? No, no, no. I was quite sober. But, you know, I started seeing lights around people after that. That was the very beginning. And so, what happened up in the roof was I felt all this energy moving up through my body and out through the top of my head.

Were you shaking? Yeah. Yeah, I was shaking. My mouth was frozen and I was sort of rocking in this energy that was just sort of coursing through me. Were you scared? No. I wasn't scared. You know, I'd done this little prayer of protection.

I'd asked for something and something was happening. And I think for somebody like me who wasn't raised with this stuff, I needed something that I could feel or have an experience of to allow me to go on the journey that I've since gone on. But when I started seeing these lights around people, you know, I was hearing, you know, maybe you have a detached retina, maybe you have a brain tumor, maybe, you know, and what I ended up doing was studying a form of healing. It was the height of the AIDS epidemic in New York. It was something that I could do. And that gave me a context for the phenomena. But because, you know, I'd heard a voice. I had felt energy.

I was seeing these little lights. I didn't know what was going on. But when I started doing the energy work and I had my hands on people, I began to hear things for them. And that was really the beginning of the Claire audience that I have now. So if I had my hand on your chest and I heard the name Billy, I learned to say who's Billy and you'd say, you know, my son, my father, my lover, you know, my dog. And as that kept getting confirmed again and again and again, I started trusting the information. And then once I did that, I began to hear more. Who was the first person that you did this with?

I don't know if I remember the first. I think there was a lot. I mean, I was seeing a lot of people when I was volunteering. So I can't say that there was one. There was, you know, I mean, I was also taking on what people were going on in their bodies at the same time. So I was opening up as a Claircentient without knowing what one was. I didn't know what a Claire audience was. I didn't know what a Claircentient was.

Can you tell me what a Claircentient is? A Claircentient is a clear feeling. So you hear about empaths. I'm an empath sort of on steroids. So I'm able to feel, they call me a medium for the living. I'm not going to contact your dead sister or your dead grandmother. But if you haven't talked to your sister in three years, I can probably step into where I may begin to resemble her and can probably hear what's going on in the dynamic and support you in moving through whatever the issue is.

Let's get this out of the way so that we can go really deep into this. Because surely there's skeptics in the audience. How do you address the inevitable skeptical reaction to this? Because we've all been taught, many of us have been taught, listen, a Clair audience, Clairvoyant, whatever it is, we've got these people, it's not real. They're tricking us. They're using tricks. How do you address that?

And I just want to get that out of the way. It's fine. I'm actually, I don't mind it at all because I was a skeptic myself. You know, what I do is you can't Google it. I can't sort of know who you are. And if you say I'm having issues with my boss and step into your boss and start to resemble him and talk about what's going on in the dynamic and be accurate, there's no way that I could know that. And I've actually channeled five books.

And the books actually aren't written. I'm literally sitting in a chair with my eyes closed and speaking the whole thing into recorder or in front of people. I just did a retreat in South Carolina where the guides I work with dictated 100 pages in front of the students over the course of three or four days. It's still being transcribed by somebody. What is the difference between that and someone who's just writing? You know, how do you know it's not just inspiration coming through? Well, I think, I mean, I believe in inspiration.

I believe that inspiration is a high form of expression. But when I'm channeling, I'm literally taking dictation. And when I'm inspired, I get to sort of collude with it. You know, I can have an idea and then work with the idea. The books actually are all straight dictation. I hear things phrase after phrase after phrase. And when I channel, I whisper the words as they come and then I repeat them. And it's often coming extremely rapidly.

So it's, you know, phrase, phrase, phrase, phrase. I can't see the whole thing or know how it's added up. People who are hearing it can hear it better than I can until I see the transcript or I listen to recording afterwards. Oh, so you're not, you're just sort of, it's just, you're not even aware of how it's acting. I'm aware, I'm not aware of, I'm so busy taking the dictation and trying to get the next phrase that's coming that I don't have time to really look at the fluidity.

You know, if you can imagine reading fortune cookies one after the other after the other as they're handed to you, that's my job during this. You're going to know if it all shows up, you know, in form. So there have been five books now and they're completely unedited. I mean, they literally are the transcripts of the recordings. There's no editing involved. I think in the last book there were maybe three or four word changes and that's because I mispronounced a word because I was speaking so fast

or jumped over a word. Okay, I just see, oh, I, you know, I wish I had it. I left, ah, sorry, bad interviewer. I had an excerpt from your book. It's amazing. And to think that this is just, you're not working on that. You're not revising. No, nothing.

I mean, there's, you see, this is the difference between the inspired stuff. It was inspired, I'd get to go back and fix it. I'd been a playwright. I know what writing is like. You know, my name is on the cover of these books, but I'm really not the writer. I'm a stenographer at best. You know, that really is my level of participation.

Can you, I just, just, I want to get this point out of the way, which is if this was happening to me, I would feel like I was losing my mind. And so how did you, I guess two parts to this question. How did you, outside of like having, even if I was getting hits, even if it was like, yes, this person was my grandfather, I would still feel like I was getting, like my life was getting ripped apart.

Well, I mean, as I said, this has been going on in my life for 25, 30 years in one form or another. And my early 30s is when I began to hear. And I started a little group that met in my living room and we met every week for about 18 years and people would put 10 bucks in a basket. And it was the laboratory. I was in the faculty of NYU for 25 years.

I was not doing this work in a public way or looking to be known at all. Do you think you would have gotten fired if you'd started talking about it? I never did. And finally by the end of it, everybody knew what I did because I was on television doing this. You know, I was being recorded, stepping into people

and being intercut with people that I never met and sort of somatizing them. So I don't think I'd ever get another job in academia now because I'm all over YouTube, you know, whispering and talking to myself. And I know how nuts it looks. I'm the first one to admit it. But...

Yeah, that's right. Because it's like, this is what's, you know, interesting about it. And it's the same with other channelers that I've seen. You wouldn't call the aesthetic cool. It's not gotten me a date yet. It's not never going to happen. It's not.

It's not. I mean, for me, and if people haven't seen me work before, I'm whispering and repeating. And it's not glamorous. I'm not sort of sitting there saying, the Pleiadians have a message for us all today on rainbows and unicorns. It's this very physical phenomenon.

That's right. And you would think if you were, like, wanting to be something, that's what you would do. You'd wear, like, you'd dress like Parliament. You'd have crystals. You'd, like... But it seems that what's happening is coming through you so quickly.

Is there discomfort here at all? It's physically exhausting, but that's also because I do it so much. When I do a workshop or I'm working on a text, it can be five hours a day of channeling, which is sort of unheard of. And there's a lot of energy running through me. I have a bit of a cold today,

but if the guides came through, they don't have a cold. They'd be fine. So they'll use or work with me or through me without impairment. I often do my best work, you know, first thing in the morning in front of a group before I've had too much coffee or talked, and they're coming through

with complete, beautiful, beautiful lectures, whereas I couldn't even have a conversation like this coherently on my own. But I want to answer one thing. You said, how did you know that you weren't going crazy? Everything that I did in the beginning years was in service to other people, so I was getting the feedback.

You see, I wasn't sitting there, and I didn't want to be a channel. I didn't really believe in it. It wasn't my thing, and I was skeptical about it. But I was doing this group for years, but the other thing that I haven't mentioned is that when I do this stuff, there's an energy that comes through

that's extraordinarily palpable. So people that have never felt energy can often feel it when the guides do their attunements, and they'll often just do it at the drop of a hat and people can feel the energy. So I was always dismissive of the information that was coming through me because it was coming through me.

That was my biggest problem with it. Who am I to do this? It was real, and we were all experiencing it. This energy that you're talking about, I've experienced that from Ram Dass. When you get around Ram Dass, there is a palatable energy that comes... The undeniable.

There's no way to pretend it's not there. You see people who get close to him, they just start crying. They can't help it. What is that? What do you think that energy is? Well, I mean, the guides, when they work with me, they actually step into me. I mean, I've not seen it,

but supposedly when there's some stuff that they do and they work with people very directly, my eyes, which are hazel, turn bright blue. A very pale blue. Your eyes look blue right now. They're not. I mean, they may. But I may be more tuned in than I think. But I haven't had blue eyes since I was maybe

five years old. They turn kind of dark. That is really why. Yeah, but the energy itself, whatever it is, the guides bring through the energy. They attune people. The books are all energetic attunements. I didn't start dictating books until 2009.

I used to be a heavy smoker through all this. And I quit. Like I was a four pack a day guy. And like in 2008, the guide said, we can't work through you anymore unless you take care of this. And I stopped. And then my energy system,

which had been very damp and down, my clair sentience, my ability to feel. And I'm sure that's part of the reason I was smoking so much was to be less sensitive. Everything took off and the book started coming through. I got to get some of these guides.

They turn your eyes blue. They make you quit smoking. And they turn you in an incredible rider. Yeah. That's awesome. I mean, that's the good news. What's the bad news? You end up living a very different kind of life.

I mean, this isn't the life that I'd planned for myself at all. You know, I love teaching college. I ran a graduate program at Goddard in Vermont for 18 years. You know, I had a nice life. And I chose finally to step into this work fully.

You know, at the cost of health insurance and, you know, retirement and all those things that I had thought were important to me. But finally, this became so insistent. I mean, they're delivering a book every year and a half through me.

The books take 30 days of dictation at most, you know. I mean, 30 sittings. That's it. But the work is coming through with such insistence that I've now sort of accepted that this is what my life has become. Who are they?

Well, they're a group. They're a consortium. I call them the guides. And they're only called the guides because my ex Larry, when he found out that I was a psychic, used to say, ask the guides this, ask the guides that. Now they're the guides. And everybody's comfortable with that.

It's not some high name. It was convenient. They're teachers. You know, they're teachers. And, you know, the name that's come through, I'm hearing say it. I mean, I've known the name for a long time, but I'm not terribly comfortable with names in this stuff

that attach a lot of meaning and ego and narrative to names. And I think that that's a trap. But the name that they've said, they've used is the name Melchizedek, which is a priesthood that's been around for a long time, is my understanding.

But that was only in the fifth book, the fourth or fifth book. Melchizedek? Melchizedek. As they say, if you want to call us something, you can call us this. They're operating at a level of consciousness. They call it the Christ consciousness.

And that they're teachers. They use in the very first book the term Ascended Masters, and they've never used it again because I'm not comfortable with that term. Because, again, it's sort of fraught with a lot of narrative and attachments that I don't think are all that necessary. I mean, this is my real feeling.

You know, truth is truth is truth. And I don't care who it's coming from. I tend to be a little wary when I meet people and they introduce themselves and they say, hi, I'm the channel for the Archangel Michael and Mother Mary and so on. It's like the list of celebrities. And I don't think it's about that at all.

I mean, this is the name that's been given. I can accept the name. But for me, it's an energy that I'm quite comfortable with now that's very familiar when it works. And it's something to feel. You know, I mean, for me, it's an extraordinary experience

of sort of being in this kind of union in this vibration. Where are they from? You know, I don't know. I mean, it's not like... I mean, I don't go there with them. I did an interview recently with NPR and the guy was like,

how come you haven't asked all these questions? I said, well, I kind of don't want to go there. And the newest book that they're delivering now and they're about... It started two weeks ago. They're about 100 pages, 150 pages in already. They're addressing some of this stuff which is taking me out of my comfort zone.

But essentially, it's a higher level of consciousness. The guides don't talk about dimensions. That's not... They talk about octaves as in music. Like, Gerjeev was in the octaves. You know, Gerjeev? I know who he is, but I haven't read him. But they talk about octaves and everything.

They say, like, the note C exists in multiple octaves. You can play the note C here in this reality that we know, or you can play it in a higher octave. They're operating at a higher octave and they're actually lifting us to them through what they say is co-resonance. So they play the higher note up here

which allows us to align to them. And this is actually happening through energetic accord. And they say A-C-C-O-R-D or A-C-H-O-R-D is on a piano. So it's vibrational accord. And they do this through attunements

which are spoken. So if people know Reiki and you go to a teacher and they attune you to run the energy, the guides that I work with attune people through language and through what they call claims of truth that literally support

the energetic field in aligning to a higher vibration that people can literally feel and then productively work with. So these are... It seems like they have some intention with us. They're trying to...

They're agents of change or transformation. Are they here now? Can I ask them some questions? I'll do my best and I'll step back as I can. I should explain to people how I do this. So I've said I whisper the words and I repeat them.

When I'm channeling, there are different levels of being receded. Most of the time, if I'm here with you and I'm still president and they're talking, it's like I'm in the front seat of the car with them and I'm turning the wheel over. When I'm lecturing or they're lecturing or they're doing a book,

I'm at the back seat of the car and then you really can't shut them up much. So we'll see what happens. But I'm willing to see where we go. Thank you. All right. Paul Selig, everybody! Give him a round of applause!

Thank you so much for being with us here tonight. Go for the questions. They'll come through with the questions. It's not going to feel like a conversation. I promise you. What are some pragmatic things that we can do

in this turbulent time to create a positive change in the world? You have to stop fighting yourselves. This is the first issue. You're all in battle with yourselves and you're surprised to see it.

Express yourself in the field in the field that you share. You're all fighting and you're fighting internally as well and you're fighting internally as well. The true self you understood it. The true self, if you wonder, which is the aspect of the mind as you, which is the aspect of the divine as you

is here to be expressed, is here to be expressed. If you align to it through this alignment, through this alignment, you begin to claim a new reality. You stop creating in fear when you stop creating fear. When you stop creating in fear,

you stop requiring it. You stop requiring it to be your teacher. To be your teacher. Look around you. Look around you. You are being taught by this. You are being taught by this. If you are willing to learn by it, if you join the fight, if you join the fight in your anger,

in your anger or your indignation, or your indignation, you would be in danger of learning lessons, or being given to you. Everything you see before you, high and low and in between, you are in agreement too. You are in agreement too.

Vibrational accord. Vibrational accord. It cannot be there. It cannot be there without your collective agreement. Without your collective agreement. You continue to agree to the very things you say you don't want. You say you don't want. You witness it on television.

You pat yourself on the back. You see those people. You see those people. We are right. They are not right. We are right. They are not right. You confirm your separation. And you confirm your separation at great cost. At great cost.

The denial of the divine within yourselves within yourselves denies you. Denies you the relationship with the divine. All things with the divine in all things. You say you want union. You say you want union. We like your fights, but you like your fights. And you enjoy your separation.

And you enjoy your separation. You can learn through these things. If you wish it. If you wish it. But the outcome will not be good. But the outcome will not be what you want. There are higher ways to learn a battle than battles with your conscience. And until your conscience

aligns to the potential that there is no need for war. That there is no need for war. You will continue to claim it. Because all you've known. How do you find peace? Is that your question? Is that your question? Not in the world.

Not in the world within yourself. Within the self. And then begin to address it. As the true self. The aspect of you. The aspect of you that knows who he is. That knows who he is. In a higher level is accessible to you.

Is accessible to you. And all of you as well. And all of you as well. And agree to be as it. And agree to be as it. Underline that word. As. As. Be as the true self. Be as the true self who is unafraid.

Who is unafraid. Not in battle with the self. Not in battle with the self and constantly agrees. And consequently agrees that the divine is inherent to the divine that is inherent in all manifestations. Period. Period. Period. Period. Period. Period. Stop now.

Wow. That's amazing. Thank you. They're nodding. They're acknowledging. The only other question that follows would be if there is this potential

to if there is a higher self that we are somehow separated from or not aware of or haven't aligned with why do we resist becoming that thing. Because you would have to be

responsible for your actions and you don't want to be. And you don't want to be. You like your lies. You like your lies. You like your pleasure. You like your pleasure when you know you shouldn't have it. When you know you shouldn't have it. You deny the divide in others and laugh at them and laugh at them and enjoy laughing at them

and enjoy laughing at them. If you want to be the true self that is your inheritance, that is your inheritance. It comes at a great cost. It comes at a great cost. And the cost is the known. And the cost is the known. Everything ever believed in. Everything that you've ever believed in the Solomon Truth

that is not in alignment to truth must be known for what it is and said thank you to. And said thank you to as it's released. As it's released. You can have it if you wish it. You can have this if you wish it. It's not being punished. It is not being punished. It is celebratory.

It is celebratory when you want your anger but you want your anger you want your pettiness. You want your pettiness you like your superiority. You like your superiority give you pleasure. It gives you pleasure. You cannot be the light. You cannot be the light and hold on. You dans... Unt como chased. It cannot be so.

It cannot be so if you want the truth. If you want the truth within yourself within yourself to be revealed to be revealed you must become willing you must become willing to claim the truth to claim the truth that everyone would see in everyone you see regardless of regardless of how they present

or how they claim themselves or how they claim themselves with this. They're saying do you understand this? The truth hurts. Yes, it's beautiful. Yeah, but the fear, the reason that I'm would be afraid is

what about I don't want to get taken advantage of if some people it's the light that you're talking about it's impossible for me to see and if we allow ourselves to... You don't have to go to dinner with them

to know who they are to know who they are. Do you understand this? This is very important. This is very important. This is not about personality. This is not about personality. It's about the true self, the divine as you. The divine as you knows the divine and all things

from potential distance. You are not pretending that someone is divine. In fact, they must be. In fact, they must be if they have a soul if they have a soul and have taken a body and have taken a body. The requirement is simple. The requirement is simple. The divine

is present in all manifestation like it or not like it or not, agree with it or not agree with it or not as it presents as it presents. It is still here when we teach you when we teach you, we ask you to say words, we ask you to

say words to align you to align you to the truth of who you are. If you wish to say the words after us if you wish to say the words after us we will let you know. We will let you know you have a tool and you will have a tool to navigate this claim. To navigate this claim, how do I love the one I see?

How do I love the one I see that I dislike or disagree with or disagree with? How do I encourage myself? How do I encourage myself in the face of vision in the face of a vision that I seek to deny that I seek to deny the words are very simple.

The words are very simple, say it if you like. Say it if you like, I know who I am in truth. I know who I am in truth. I know what I am in truth. I know what I am in truth. I know how I serve in

truth. I know how I serve in truth. I am free I am free. I am free. I am free. I am free. Now the claim that you make is claimed by the true self, is claimed by the true self or the eternal

self or the eternal self or the aspect of the divine as you, not the personality structure, not the personality structure who dislikes others, who dislikes others or seeks to be seen as special or seeks to be seen as special. I know who I am.

I know who I am is true, is always true as a claim, as a claim at the level of the agreement of the true self as you, of the true self as you, I know who I am. I know who I am. I know what I am. I know what I am in manifestation, in

manifestation, in form and field, in form and field of this belief, in this belief, in this inherited landscape that we all share, that we all share. I know how I serve. I know how I serve is how you are most fully

expressed as the true self, period, period, period. They're saying period, period, period. Wow. But that's an attunement. That was just an attunement. So they just actually did an attunement with you all, which means should I explain this? Yes. They're saying

if you wish. So the guides say we're all radios, right? We're always in a broadcast and the broadcast that we hold is our energy. It's our consciousness. I'm going to ask the whispering over there stop because if I'm trying to hear them too, it's a little hard.

So what they're doing is they're tuning up the radios that we are with this thing so that we can play a higher broadcast. If that makes any sense, imagine there's a station that's on the dial that's available. Do you understand? But that we haven't been playing because we didn't know we could put the dial there.

So they say when you work with this, I know who I am in truth. I know what I am in truth. I know how I serve in truth. You're actually claiming what is always true and you can also claim it for others. And when you work at that level, you're actually overriding

the programming over they call history or narrative, which is how we seek to impose meaning on everything we see based on what we were taught to believe or what we're being asked to believe on any given day. Do you understand the difference? Sure, yeah.

So that's how it works. So if you don't like who you're seeing, this is how they say it. I'm not saying that I can do this all that well. But the claim, I know who you are in truth. I know what you are in truth. I know how you serve in truth

actually claims the person outside of the bullshit to the essence of who they are. Now I suppose in order to go there, we have to believe at some level that there's an aspect of the divine in everyone. Whether or not we agree to it.

Do you are you able to adhere to the things that these beings are teaching the world? I'm a lot better than I was with it. I don't think I'm their best student. I actually say and I make a point of saying

when I work with groups, I'm not a spiritual teacher and I don't want to be and I'm not a guru and I never will be. It's not my thing. I do show up for this work on a regular basis. And because of that, I've gotten better.

Now I still enjoy my crankiness and my bitchiness and all of those things. But I also know that that's not who I truly am. Do you understand the difference? So I can play. We still get to have a personality. But I do know at a level that I'm far

more than what I present. And that was a gift and the big thing that I've gotten good at which was one of their easiest teachings and one of the teachings that they say again and again and again they say that the action of fear is to claim more fear.

And that every time you make a choice in fear, you're calling more of the same to you. Do you understand this? Yeah. And if you look at your own lives, just ask yourself what the last choice you made was because you were afraid and see what it got you.

Probably it got you more fear. They also say that there's not a lie that's ever been told that hasn't been said in fear. So I've gotten good at that too. I save myself a lot of pain. I just don't go there anymore. Now,

what I do have the capacity to do is to recognize the divine in others. It's much easier for me to do this when I'm channeling and they're really coming through me because I'm operating in a higher vibrational

field. And it's very easy at that point to forgive everything because it's my personality's self that wants to judge. And the guides say what you judge you fear. It's really simple and you're right back to the action of fear is to claim more fear. And they say if you look around

you, when you talk about what's happening in the world, in the very first book that they dictated, which I wasn't expecting, I just got and let go of from a writing project and I went to bed for three days. And a woman called me up and said

Paul, maybe this would be a good time for you to write your memoir about how you became a clear audience. And I was never going to write again. I was convinced. And the guides piped it and said no, we have a book to write and if you take two weeks we'll do it. And that was the first book. It took two and a half weeks.

I took two days off to go teach at NYU. Otherwise it would have been a two week session. But in that book they said humanity is at a time of reckoning. And they say a reckoning is a facing of oneself and all of one's

creations. And everything that's been created in fear needs to be recreated in a higher way. And what they're saying now really, and this was in the last book, there's a really good channel. I like it, but there's a channel

actually up on YouTube that the guides delivered I think two or three days before the last election in a workshop in Richmond. It's called Great Change. And they pretty much sort of laid out what was coming. It's a very interesting change. What did they say?

Well they said, you know, your idea of choice is I'll have the milk or the cream in my coffee. And they said, what you're about to get is what happened when the table was holding the milk and the cream gets turned over. And you have what you've used

to navigate choice and who you think you are starts to go out the window. And they talk about truth as a wave, literally an energetic wave. And that everything that is not an alignment to truth

is going to be shaken up. And that includes institutions, governments, religions. But frankly, at a personal basis, we're all having to deal with it at the same time. As within so without. So it's not apocalyptic. But it is

pretty much, if you can align to truth yourself in your own vibration, your own being, you actually get to withstand this stuff a lot better because you're not going to go into agreement with all the fear. And when they talk about a wave

the chaos that you described earlier really is kind of what we're seeing, I think. But they talk about things being reclaimed in a higher way or known in a higher way. We can't keep pretending that there aren't problems when there have been forever. Do you understand?

And now it's in our face and we can't get away from it. And that to me is terrifying. They just said productive. Let it be productive. If you want to be terrified, enjoy your fear. Enjoy your fear. You will have a nice time in your fear.

If you see it as productive, there is still opportunity to realize the truth. In everything you see before you, the divine as you, the divine as you knows the truth when he sees it, knows the truth when he sees it,

and will not collude with fear. With fear he has no need. He has no need. He is not afraid. He is not afraid. If you want the invitation to do it, if you want the invitation to fear, you may take it. You may take it. You may learn those lessons.

You may learn those lessons. There are higher ways to learn. There are higher ways to learn. If you are willing to take the lessons of the times you stand in, of the times you stand as productive as productive. Period, period, period. That is so true.

I'm like, no, it's really intense. You're right. Your vibe is... You've probably never heard this before, but you're pretty intense, man. That's them, I think.

They're intense. Yeah, it's a lot to take in. The thing I keep running up against, and I think we'll just keep going around in circles on this one. Obviously, I'm not telling them what to say,

but the thing I keep running against is this addiction to fear. We are getting off on this shit, man. When they're saying enjoy the fear, they really mean it, I think. They're saying that the action of fear is to claim more of itself.

Do you understand that? If fear seeks to perpetuate itself, the way it gets to do that is by inviting us to join the party. That's really that simple. Now, what the guides say is that the true self, which is the essence of their teaching, the realization

and embodiment of the true self, the true self doesn't operate in fear. It actually lives at a different level of resonance. Fear does not exist at the level of the true self. It's just not there.

So because it's not there, you're not creating from it, you're not complicit to it, you're not encouraging it. I think that there's difference between, say, fear and discernment. I don't want to talk on my door. I don't think that's fear-based.

I think that's kind of smart to have, if I'm camping and a bear comes, it's a good idea to run or to leave. Or to fight the bear. Or to fight the bear if you want to choose that. It isn't like the bear is evil.

You know what I mean? I'm taking care of myself. I don't think it falls in the same category. It's not about vilifying the bear for the rest of the world. May I ask them a question? In Buddhism, there's this idea of fundamental

dissatisfaction. There's something innately there's something innately there's something innately something in us that suffers. That being human, suffering for human is like

being wet for a fish. They're a way to overcome the suffering, to let go of the suffering while still enjoying a human incarnation. Remember who you are. This is the key. This is the key. The suffering is the suffering

is the suffering of separation, of separation aspect of you. An aspect of you remembers, remembers joy and love and love in union with its source, with its source, whatever you wish to call source, you've claimed separation, you've claimed

separation, you've learned through this. You learn through this, but there are so many lessons. But there are so many lessons you could release. You could release if you start to claim who you are. If you start to claim who you are as one of, as one of, something greater, something greater at that level. At that level, the suffering

you know of is personality. The suffering that you know of as personality as personality is reclaimed is reclaimed in a higher way, in a higher way. You have an opportunity here. You have an opportunity here in body in form, in body, in form to learn through everything. To learn through

everything is the joy of being. It is the joy of being. Suffering is not necessarily terrible, is not recurring during life. It's not a requirement of being, of being nearly as much as you seem to think it is. Nearly as much as you seem to think it is. You can learn

through anything, you can learn through many things. Suffering is one. Suffering is one. You could choose something else preferred. You can choose something else if you prefer it. But you can choose what you want to offer and maybe you could choose the other. It's not the thing that you think is.

Period period period. Wow, man. It's so cool. I am amazed by it. I am amazed that you. It's so concise, what's coming out of you is so concise, and so we like

kind of perfect. It's like these little data packets that you get all the time. And what happens then when you get in the way of that? It usually happens during the book dictations or in workshops. Because when I do workshops, I show up I say hello, I tell my little

store again that I recede and they come through and they teach everybody and then they attune them to the energy. And if the guide says something that I can't get behind personally or really confronts my idea of reality in a way that's too hard for me, I go

and I say Paul is interrupting. And then they'll either take my question and if you look at the books, throughout the books there are all these interruptions. I'm rarely interrupting in speech. I'm bringing my thought forward and saying hey wait a minute what is this?

And for the most part they have to really take the question in order to be able to move forward. Once in a while they'll say we're teaching and we'll take this up later when we finish our lecture. I mean my name is on the cover of the books, I'm not the author

but I really don't want to be party to something that's going to hurt people or mislead people in any way, shape or form. So if the guides were to say it's fine for everybody to go kill each other I'd have to go hey wait a minute and then they would have to unpack that.

They'd never say it but they've said things throughout their teachings that I've been very challenged by. What's an example of that? A few years ago in a monastery which was came out about a year ago early in the book they said

here's your teaching for the day nothing is real. And I sort of heard things like that before so I let it slide, they did their whole lecture and they started off the next day and they said here's your next lesson everything is real and I just went hey wait a minute because in like five books

they never contradicted themselves and I thought this is it, this is the end of it to go back and change anything. So if they say that it's in the book whether or not I'm behind it or not that's the agreement. You know and my editor at Tartre-Penguin agrees we don't

screw with the teachings. This is how it came out it's in the book but it has to have a footnote to say there was an interruption in the room we would do that. You know like you know there was sound outside that interrupted the channel and we probably would do that but I don't get to take out

the line that I feel is wrong. It would have to then be explained and they did explain it and actually and I later I met this, I did a workshop at the Esplan Institute that I co-taught with this guy Jeffrey Kreipel who's the head of religious studies

at Rice University and he's a Gnostic scholar and he says these books are really you know Gnostic teachings in present day form but I told him about that and he said oh yeah yeah what is it? Meister Eckhart you know Christian mysticism

everything is real in spirit nothing is real in form which is pretty much what they were saying but I didn't know that so I thought that they were screwing up so I interrupted. May I ask them one more question? What are your thoughts

on the potential for there to be artificial intelligence on the planet that is that passes the Turing test or that is indistinguishable from human intelligence? They're saying it's impossible

in the way you decide the way you think it is the way you think it is that the manifestation of artificial intelligence will surpass your idea of your potential but your idea of potential

limited is so limited you have no idea what it could truly be the divine as you the divine as you or the miracle of being as a soul expressed on a journey

will never be imitated data can be impressed logic can be taught logic can be taught love cannot it cannot be taught it can only be known it can only be known

and it can only be known by one who has the capacity to love period period period period I didn't even know if they knew what artificial intelligence was they call my computer

a television still I mean yeah mostly yeah I'm a television so they're not I mean lately once in a while I'll hear a reference from them to an internet

but it feels very uncomfortable well it's man that would really suck if they like started to use twitter huh I think it would they want to use they want to tweet

well it's you know it's I mean if we step back and look at what's happening to you in this experience that you continue to have any implications which is there is apparently this external intelligence

that is coming through you or is inside of you and is yet not you well the implication would be then why couldn't we build a machine that would be advanced that it could become a

pure conduit for these beings so that they could so that they wouldn't have to use humans I hear it would not be possible the energetic system of human being the energetic system of human being of the human being is the conduit

is the conduit and this is in vibration not in the cells not in the cells where we operate through paul when we operate through paul but finally we would suggest but finally we would suggest

the refinement field it is the refinement of the field allows the broadcast to attend to you that allows the broadcast to attend to you in the field itself and the field itself cannot be manufactured cannot be manufactured but it is the product of many things

lives lived yes lives lived yes but also it is at this level of engagement you all have capacity beyond what you know beyond what you know we have come to teach you this if you are willing

to be taught your own realization your own realization about what you are about who and what you are is where you need to put your energy not in a figment not in a figment or a structure or a structure or a machine or a machine outside of yourself

period period period and they are saying period did they think that there are living on the planet right now do they think that there are awakened beings that are on the planet right now or enlightened beings

if I want to go here yes they are saying yes there always are there always are and they are rarely known by any of you because they are responsible because their responsibility to hold the planet is to hold the planet and their love in their love that is why they come that is why they come

to hold the planet to hold the planet in its potential in its potential they are usually kept separate from population from a population they are serving and they are serving in witness in witness everyday this is a karmic choice

this is a karmic choice it can be made It can be made they are always present at different ends of what you know of what you know of as your world being there in service but they are in service they don't write books they don't write books they don't say hello

on the street they don't say hello on the street and don't want your money they don't want your money they have a life they have a life of great joy of great joy in service in service but in their own respect but in their awareness of the divide and its permiation and its permiation

of all manifestation they support the world and its own revolution in its own realization of its potential period period period and they are saying period wow that is fascinating I wonder who those

that's such an interesting idea it really is and I wonder they say they have been placed here who placed them there who is running the show well they are saying karmic choice at a soul level you have all climbed

you have all claimed the lives you are living the lives you are living and the embodiment and the embodiment you have taken has been your expression why should it be different for them period period period period period period they are telling me to say this

there is another thing that I think is important I have heard that only once before and I was better with it when they said it just now but they said it for the first time it sounded nuts like there was somebody living in a cave some place

I will ask that briefly because this thing I asked this very question the ramdas retreats that I go to and the answer was they are living in caves well that's it and I was like what do they like about caves it seems like they could

I think it is about being out of the world in essentially I want to say either ecstasy or prayer I don't know listen I am not the expert on it I know exactly what you know and I am only remembering one other channeling

from about three years ago where it was addressed but I think something that is important is that we relegate what is important in certain ways so that is an important divine or that is an important way to serve

and I wouldn't disagree with that if in fact that is so but frankly somebody who is teaching high school some place is expressing themselves perfectly as well do you understand so we have to watch out for the spiritual ego stuff

because that is a whole other trap I think to get into okay I feel like I am hogging your guides a little bit but I do have just one more question then I think it would be great to open the floor up for is that okay if we have some questions

and I have to ask this because I don't know when I will ever get a chance to be around guides again but I am forgive me are we going to see aliens aliens

what I hear is they are already here and they always have been so stop trying to look for what is already present none of you are who you are none of you are who you truly think you are anyway

so the otherness of alien is attractive to you when in fact the idea of extraterrestrial life is as present on this plane as anywhere else

we will simplify the answer we will simplify the answer yes they are here yes you will know but perhaps not in the way you think you should as you attuned to the higher vibration that is your inheritance

what you become visible what you become visible with visible with other things are other things that operate in higher ways in higher ways you expect alien life to have form as you do

consciousness without form is present here as well is present here as well that is how we operate through all that is how we operate through Paul we use the form but we don't require it ourselves to be ourselves

don't limit God don't mandate what things should look like don't mandate what things should look like because you will miss what is already there period period period period wow so cool

thank you thank you wow one more round of applause for the guys for Paul at least wow so friends we are very lucky

to be here tonight with this person and there is a microphone here those of you who want to take the opportunity of communicating with these beings please come to the microphone and feel free to ask a question or if you want to ask my guides a question go ahead

but they are not as good hi Paul thank you for being here very quickly guys if you could just give me we have about probably 30 I don't know much more time we have 35 minutes

can we do that so we have 35 minutes they are going to light me so please thank you so in this incarnation as we seek to find our true selves is it possible for us to support someone in their pursuit of their true selves

and if so how do we do that without imposing our own judgments on them by knowing who they are not dictating who they should be those are very different things when you know who somebody is you are supporting them

in their realization knowing who they are knowing who they are means the aspect of the divine as them can be witnessed by you can be witnessed by you and its realization will support them

will support them in their development in their development if you seek to dictate how somebody should grow how somebody should grow your freedom you are limiting them by your identity by your identity imposing itself imposing itself upon them upon them through expectations

through expectations period period period thank you hello this is really awkward to ask but as I understand Jesus was an enlightened master

so was he like a channeler like you are or was he like was he just feeling this vibe heavy without like thinking he was coming from him they are saying he realized as the Christ which was the truth which was his true self

it is your true self as well everyone else's and everyone else's is the divine the divine as you are the Christ the eternal self the eternal self is your inheritance he was the manifestation

of it and showed the way to glory and showed the way to glory through identification with the true self as you can you must understand this you must understand this you don't become the Christ

the Christ becomes you the Christ becomes you the divine as you the alignment of the will the braiding of the will the braiding of the will the absorption of the will by the aspect of you

by the aspect of you who knows who and what he is the manifestation is true realization the Christ has been the Christ is man has been this teaching has been this teaching we use the word Christ we use the word Christ when we mean it

but we mean it in a very specific way in a very specific way the Christ is the aspect of the creator that can be realized that can be realized in manifestation as who and what you are all of you

that was the gift of the Jesus teaching of the Jesus teaching which unfortunately has been transformed into something rather different into something rather different period period period period thank you

just one quick is everyone hearing this okay is the microphone as loud as it needs to be okay great thanks first I just want to say thank you for doing this for us we considered humans as a social creature

and civilization being a natural byproduct of that what I've kind of heard from the guides today is that to be a ascended being you need to step away from that step away from society yes I'm from society

I hear not in the least you are here for a reason you are here for a reason in consort with your fellows we don't say you become ascended at the cost of the world but perhaps the world is known but perhaps at the world that you have known the divine

the divine is present all things in all things its realization its realization through you supports a world in ransom supports a world in great change in great change your presence is actually required

to bring the kingdom to bring the kingdom into manifestation as we teach it is the awareness of the divine in all things so you don't need to run but you do need to release what you think you are

what you think must be so important must be so important must be claimed to make you who you think you are when you become willing when you become willing to release your ideas to release your ideas of who you should be of who you should be

and begin to claim your own truth period period period and they are saying period thank you applause thanks for coming guys this is such a pleasure so the other night I had

probably the most intense longest lucid dreaming experiences ever and I can't stop thinking about it just wondering what's up with dreams what can we learn from them that's about it you know I was at this retreat center

in North Carolina working this last week and because we were in North Carolina I said let's go like a barbecue like a pig on a spit it was a vegetarian retreat so I was just being obnoxious by saying that and that night I had a dream

that somebody showed up with a bag and I opened the bag and it was a roasted pig's head and it was being handed to me to eat and I realized I didn't want it and that's how I have been the message can I have your name Alex Alex Dunn

let me see if I can get it just for you you actually come through saying I need everything to come to me in a way that I understand or I'm going to get confused that's how I hear you and you're also saying I don't want to know things I can't know

so I hear your dreams are an opportunity for you to understand I also hear that you work with them intentionally so that you can claim the meaning they're saying that this is productive for you as a way to

investigate not only meaning not only meaning but what that is but what reality is they're saying so be purposeful it's a healthy tool for you not for everyone but for you it's beneficial they're saying for you it's beneficial

thank you so much very quickly did I tell them how the dream I had about you no this thing happened because of a dream just so you know we were going to do a podcast

but we hadn't confirmed to date I'm terrible at emailing and it's awful, it's obnoxious but I had this crazy dream about you and you were being very at the time it was your god

but you were being very stern and intensely like we need to talk and then I woke up and was like maybe you'll do a live podcast and this happened because of a dream so thanks for that question but yeah thanks cool thanks for coming guys

question for me as I've learned tonight we're all going to work on not operating from a place of fear operating from a place of love and these things not giving into the divide how do we go about communicating and learning to understand with the people on the other side of these interactions

who have given over to fear and given up on the possibility of love they're saying it's a very interesting question rarely in the way that you think you can't convince anybody of anything do you know this do you know this you can think you do

you can think you do but that is the intellect but that is the intellect that was required and what is required is a change of knowing when someone knows in their heart there is a change of being of being and consequently

a change of expression a change of expression how they encounter others and how they encounter others their lives and their world when you meet someone in discord in discord you claim the discord and you claim the discord you claim the dysfunction

and relash it and relash it by saying it is there by saying it is there to know someone outside of who they think they are outside of who they think they are with have you known them as or would have you know them as

is a responsibility to claim we gave you earlier the claim we gave you earlier I know who you are in truth I know what you are in truth said silently said silently will align both you and the person

before you to a higher level to a higher level of exchange of exchanges happens in the field this happens in the field not in the personality structure not in the personality structure but the personality may attend may attend to the shift in the field

to the shift in the field as you know it as you know it knowing who somebody else is is claiming that somebody is claiming them outside of their identity the personality structure where the level of discord cannot be operative

cannot be operative do you understand this? I do thank you Hi I was just curious if any of you Duncan, Paul or the guides

any thoughts about Valis the voice that spoke to Phillip K. Dick for a while you know I have a friend Eric you know who wrote a book I'm forgetting his name which is embarrassing because if I'm going to hear this

Eric Davis who is a Phillip Dick scholar I've heard about I've heard about it the guides have never talked to me about it but I've actually heard that there's similarities in how I've operated and where he was going

the guides have made a point and maybe this is to protect me at a personal level of not sort of commenting on other channels it's sort of not something that they do it's just sort of you know not their stuff I'll ask

they're just saying Phillip Dick was learning in this lifetime as were all of you some of you attend to higher frequency some of you attend to higher frequency for that rest of your health that would have been the case with him that would have been the case with him you have to learn how to integrate the high vibration

the high vibration to sustain it when you are assumed by an energy that is operating through you that is operating through you you must find balance and integration and integration to be in the world to be in the world and sustain the form

and sustain the form as a conduit as a conduit to what seeks to be expressed period that is their commentary yeah cool thank you you are welcome thanks

hey thank you guys for doing this thanks for coming Paul this seems physically intense this might be an easy one for you but have you ever gotten sick doing any of this yeah but not only because I I don't get sick from channeling

I get sick from I think I have to process a lot and I started doing much larger groups recently and I am learning what it is like to hold the energy for a large group

it is a different experience for me when I was first doing hands on energy work back when I was in my 30s my ego would get in the way sometimes and I would say I want this person to get better and then I would use my own energy and deplete myself and then I would get sick

and you are not supposed to do that when I am channeling I am not doing that at that level but it is a physically intense process and frankly it is much more fluid than it used to be there are videos of me channeling from five years ago

I look like I am at the whaling wall my body is rocking almost violently at times but that was my way of holding that energy that was trying to move through me now it is a little jerky jerky but that is about it

thank you I have a quick question for the guides Ram Dass has said he has heard or have spoken to a spiritual entity he calls Emmanuel who says the death is like taking off a tight shoe

do they have any thoughts to expound on that for us a tight shoe is one example this is one level of experience when you live from this plane when you live from this plane you get somebody you disembodied and you reclaim yourself

and you reclaim yourself in a different octave in a different octave it is nothing more than that it is nothing more than that your idea of a body your idea of a body is an interesting expression you are so much more even informed

than you have experienced yet to release the body the release of the body is simply a passage is simply a passage and nothing more and nothing more period I wish my parents told me that thank you guys thank you

I am happy to try we are going to switch the mic to the other side because I am leading this way okay sure I got a simple question what drugs do I take to get in touch with these spirits

you know I am going to be honest with you it is when I stopped that everything started that is really what happened so I was more than happy to be in my version of an altered state

and when I stopped the sensitivity that I think was always present became known and was highly uncomfortable so I can't speak to that I have not explored plant medicine or any of those things for any number of reasons

but part of the reason is I don't know how I am wired for this and my hunch is that I am kind of wired up at this point to be able to operate this way and be able to call to do it so if I were I perhaps I would let me ask if there is a drug

no there is not no there is not they are saying but you can ask to be willing to go on the journey with it period and they are saying period hell yes hi

thank you both you have mentioned fear endlessly throughout this podcast I wanted to ask fear is used as a motivator for profoundly negative things how can we use fear in a positive light

to attempt to change every person that we meet that tries to use fear as a leverage for evil and in consent they are saying you can't use fear to transform fear to transform fear it is impossible fear agree biical

fear agrees with itself that is why you have all the problems that is why you have all problems in conflict nobody ever wins nobody ever wins you think they do you think they do but conflict is just out picture is your real question

how do we change the world how do we lighten the world you can do that we would like to answer that but you are not going to like the answer it means you let go of who you think you are demand other people be and demand other people to be to realize them

underline the word truth in truth a lie cannot be held know those words in truth a lie cannot be held in truth a lie cannot be held and what is a lie bef are you think you are who you think you are

who you think you are have assumed yourselves to be our ideas are ideas they are not truth when you move to truth when you move to truth you can support a world in change you are far greater beings

you are far greater beings than you know you have yet to claim your own lands you have yet to claim your full inheritance we will support you as we can in doing thus period period period thank you thank you so much

you're welcome hi thank you both so much my question is in these discourses do you ever have discussions of other enlightened beings like Christ or Buddha or other incarnations of

self-realized beings and like do they ever reference them or do they ever talk about them being just branches of the same tree or do they ever wait to get to your true self yeah they do and that's pretty much exactly what they've said they've talked about

Jesus specifically in a couple of texts and the newest one which is being delivered now they did a long long section on Jesus and what that means truthfully as sort of I had the teaching so new

I don't remember what they said so I can't get into it now but they have said that throughout they have also said that he's not the only one or not the only way to understand he's not the only one who was awakened at that level but yeah they're not you know they don't go into detail

about other religions they don't get going into detail about politics either but they really do talk in large and actually very specific ways about structures that we've inherited religious structures political structures pardon me like archetypal

essentially you know they say that we're always dining out on yesterday's dinner because we expect to get what we had yesterday we just do because it was there we expect to see it again and really the thumb print they say of every bank

is on you know of everybody who's ever entered a bank is in every bank that you walk into the first bank was somebody holding some hunter's purse when he went into the woods you know with his stick that was the bank you know what I mean but what things have become

is what we've made them and what we agree to so I'm getting too abstract now but they're talking about all of these structures as being re-understood, re-noted in a higher way including religion great thank you so much yep

hi Duncan awesome all incredible very simple obviously you're taking these like complex ideas from maybe a different dimension reality whatever you want to call it and you're using our language to communicate it

so I'm just curious to see like what do you feel is maybe lost in translation or do they have any idea of how maybe moving in the future or now whatever that you can fill the gaps well I mean I can talk about how languages worked with here

you know they're utilizing my own vocabulary but I don't know the meaning of it it's a word that I've heard and I'll be panicked when I hear it because I don't know what it means but I think that that is a limitation they actually say

you know the books that they write are energetic attunements so people if you go to the reviews on Amazon you'll see people saying you know I'm reading the book and my body is vibrating I'm reading the book and I'm seeing auras there's all this phenomena that's attached to this work and the guides say the real book is written in energy

and language is the way that you can have sort of a conscious application of it or a context, an intellectual context for the teaching there are times when I've channeled I mean I do the whisper and repeat I'm used to it, it's effective for me

there are times that I channel directly with no repetition and then it's like I'm in a blackout almost I don't remember anything it's freaky to me it's a very out of control feeling there are times when they've been teaching through me when they've given up on language

and moved to sound and they just work in tone for the whole room and it's trippy as can be and I'm sure it's very effective in its way but I think what's happening then is they're taking us out of the small mind into a higher way of being an expression

much of the work that they do is in vibration in ways that people can feel they did that little one attunement with you another time we would probably get the whole room running the energy and working with each other because that's something that can happen as well

so language is one way that this operates, not the only way wonderful, thank you very much you're welcome hey, how do we start listening to consciousness that consciousness is that do not have bodies

I'm sorry, once again how do we listen to conscious beings that do not have bodies I'm sorry, is that Mike? perfect, good how do we listen to conscious beings who do not have bodies how do we start that path?

I don't know if it's necessary or a requirement I think what's most important is that people are to listen to themselves and I would say they're a true self I happen to be a channel but clear cognizance which is clear knowing the highest gifts that there is

and you know I'm gonna just do this for a second because you asked this if everybody who's listening to this just take a moment and think of a time in your life when you knew something like you knew it, like I knew I lost the job I knew I was in love, I knew my friend was sick

you knew it and then remember what that feels like and then go to a time in your life let's go to something that you think I think I know what I'm doing after this podcast after lunch tomorrow I think I know where my best friend is and what he's doing

and see if you can feel the difference between the two mostly you can and thinking is up in your head and when you know there are no more questions when you align to your own knowing you begin to access knowing or information

a very different way than you do through the personality or small self I'm gonna ask the question about how do you hear beings and then be respectful of the process of the process that you will encounter it's not a requirement

it is not a requirement for growth and be conscious of who you hear be wary of any voice of any voice that would seek to get you frightened that would seek to get you frightened that is not a high voice that is not a high voice do not attend to it

listen to a voice of reason who does not flatter who does not flatter or fear and you may have a teacher and you may have a teacher but to know the true self will give you what you're asking and a more beneficial way

period and that's them period okay thank you you're welcome alright hi I actually had a question that was very similar to his I almost kind of clarified

I've had some experiences in my life where I felt like I was being communicated with in subtle ways by people who have passed and I wanted to know if there's any way to kind of dig a little deeper with those experiences

and communicate on a more clear level with those yeah I mean that's spiritual mediumship what I do as a channel is spiritual work and I'm a medium because I'm serving as an intermediary

for some reason if you want to know what's going on with your dead aunt I may not be able to hear her where she is on the other side but I can feel her as she was when she was here I may begin to resemble her and help you with the dynamic to understand now if you want to learn that

there are spiritualist churches all over the place that do teach there are very good people teaching mediumship that you can find that's actually something that people do train and study I'm not a train medium I didn't understand anything that I do until I was doing it

and then I had to sort of let my life go into whatever overhaul was needed to be able to support that but you can really find some very good people out there if you do some research you're welcome Hey Duncan and Paul

my question so you mentioned a little bit about like tones and being communicated in that way do you ever receive like visions as in like imagery and then sort of like does that ever sort of like go into the idea

of like visionary art or or abstract art Yeah I can I mean honestly if you look at the work of like Bosch or Bruegel people like that they're painting a damn astral plane I'm convinced

I really am I mean those people were seeing what was there and operating in the lower astral and I think you can work at any number of levels I access information clairvoyantly primarily when I'm in individual sessions with people and I'll often see

what their path is I'll be given a visual depiction of how they're progressing whether it's a water slide or pavers that you follow or you know a rickety roller coaster whatever it might be I'll get visual information that I can that I interpret see psychic

work which I say is different from channeling requires interpretation if I'm seeing something if I see a wheel it could be a metaphor or it could mean like the wheel is about to fall off your car and you should know it do you understand the difference so if you're getting those kinds

of things I think work with it you know truthfully in all art and all truly inspired art I think we're being worked with and the allowance for that I think will support it so I don't know if I've answered your question or not but

yeah so there is a visual element to absolutely absolutely yeah some people that do what I do they're not channels as much but psychics are getting all their information visually there's a guy in Little Italy who I think is a genius who you know I've been seeing

for years you know who accesses information for me visually and we work in similar ways so he's something that I can go to when I have questions about what I'm getting or my own process of integrating some of this stuff other people

hear I primarily hear and feel for me the clairvoyance or the visual information comes in service to the others most people have one or two of their gifts more developed than others that's been my experience but most of us have access to all of them in different ways

okay that's fascinating thank you you're welcome hey hi how are you doing thanks for coming I was just wondering if you have ever been a conduit for as

something that you didn't want to speak to we talked a lot about fear has there ever been a time where you did not you heard something but you did not want to speak it when I'm channeling no

when I'm channeling I've had other mediums tell me that I have like velvet ropes around me and I'm pretty who's working with me knows how to handle it you know when I work with people sometimes in groups I'll do one-on-one work I'll bring people forward and sometimes

I've been depressed since I was 7 I don't know what's going on I'll tune into the person which is what I do first thing I tune into them and essentially hear them or become them you ever saw like Ghost with Whippy Goldberg it's like that I assume the personality

and once in a while I'll hear a voice saying you will never get near me and then the moment and like or stay the fuck way you know and my guides will have every time that's happened they've said

Paul stay out of this we're going to work on it and then they go and they deal with it and the releases that happen about level are often things that have been held and been causing somebody pain for a terribly long time you'll feel I literally can feel the like literally wind coming out of their body

and the whole room can feel it because it's it's a release from the cellular memory at a level that's like it's like wind but I had not gotten involved in that because I don't think I'm equipped do you understand so that's how I've got that's how I've encountered it but it's not my real work well thank

you you're welcome hi thank you so much so my mother has experienced what doctors call psychosis and in those experiences she believes that she has come face to face

with beings that are satanic or evil I'd like to ask are there evil beings and obviously I'm asking because I would like to ask and be open but I am afraid and

what is the advice I think that there's low astral stuff that we can attach to I don't my guides don't talk about it well they talk about high and low vibration so they don't go into the judgment that we associate but I actually when I work

with any group or any session I work with a prayer protection and I do that not because I'm frightened of what's out there I look at it like safe sex it just makes sense you know what I mean it's like it makes sense to have an umbrella in the rain there's nothing wrong with the rain I just

don't want to get wet and like my grandma and I use this example you know she was a nice woman I didn't know her well she was married about five times she's not who I would go to on the other side for relationship advice I don't need to go there you know now

if you if you wish I can tune into your mom but I need her name to do that and see what that's about is that okay yeah what's her name please Susan Susan so this is the last name okay too um it's okay I'll see if I can do it anyway

if you want to get the last name I will edit it out of the podcast so it doesn't get uploaded it's easier for me to tune in but it's not always necessary everyone say a prayer protection let me see if I can tune into her well this is her this is her she's actually

well this is this is what she's dealing with I'll be honest with you and she's she's she's actually looking for the fight and she's kind of looking for the trouble too do you understand this but she's on a high alert with whatever her experience is let me see if I can hear what's really going on

illness yes I do think some of this is illness I think it's just illness you know she's balance and I and there's the when people do have imbalances they come and there are things that get attended to you need not be frightened I hear you need not be frightened it's not your inheritance I hear it's not

your inheritance in this lifetime in this lifetime what happened I actually think it would have come already in some way do you understand this now she's okay they're moving the mother away what kind of your name Amy let me let me see if I can get you

this is how you come through you come through like this am I allowed like that am I allowed do I get what I want and you're actually saying like I don't know any more yes they're saying yes and more and more stop being frightened what can't be stop being frightened

of what can't be of what can't be stop being frightened stop being frightened of yourself use light use light when you work when you work say thank you for protection say thank you for protection don't be cavalier don't be cavalier say thank you and say thank you

for your own well being that is necessary that is necessary for any journey for any journey period and the same period okay thank you so much you're welcome hi thank you for being here and answering

our questions you're welcome I'm so thankful so it's come towards the end of the line but I notice it was mostly men asking questions and I guess I just have

you know for the guides maybe or anything else that comes up how do we find as women in this world or anybody else that feels like disempowered a bit at the moment how do we find more balance

I mean between the masculine and feminine and how do we improve our relationships especially when we I know that everybody's in pain and that's you know what's going on right now but maybe some practical everyday the guides are saying

actually you're asking abstract questions when it's actually personal so whatever this is is actually personal to you and not about the general is that okay is the last time okay what's the last one

let me see if I can get you this is how you come through you actually come through saying it's my turn my turn do you understand this and you're getting angrier and angrier as you say it you also come through as if

you're looking for some trouble and that's what this is they're saying I'm going to find it because I'm looking because I'm looking reinforcing what they're saying is that you're reinforcing difficulty because you expect to see it challenge yourself

they're saying challenge yourself to look outside predictable to look outside the predictable your empowerment finally they're saying finally has nothing to do with gender finally it has everything to do with realization

that nobody has authority over you the claim we gave you earlier the claim we gave you earlier I am free I am free I am free will support you will support you in liberate from any form of oppression

oppression real or imagined real or imagined the true self if you can understand this can only be free if you identify as her and align to that and align to that vibration

you may see this in your world you become a reflection you become a reflection of the higher self of the higher self and what you see in your world will be expressed will be expressed at that level you will no longer be seeking affirmation

affirmation of what you say of what you say you don't want period period period okay thank you I guess it was a good day to wear my collie t-shirt okay there you go thank you thank you

how much time do we have ten minutes max ten minutes max so if you could flash me a tin if you're in line and we don't get to you I'm sorry but we do have to wrap it up for the bell house so we've got ten minutes go ahead sorry

hi we're a self selected probably like minded group ideas that most of us take as gospel that are actually incorrect and we would be better off if we knew the truth they're saying you'd be here all night and that's really the problem

almost everything almost everything that you see that you see is just an idea is just an idea that you have inherited that you have inherited don't question the right ideas you don't question the right ideas you only question what you don't like whatever you see but everything you see is inherited by you

and you can claim it and until you can claim independence from the known from the known you will never know truth you will never know truth your ideologies in almost all ways and almost all ways are things you have inherited are things that you have inherited

and attached to if you want to know truth if you want to know truth use the claim we have offered you use the claim we've offered you I know who I am in truth I know who I am in truth I know what I am in truth I know how I serve in truth

I am free I am free I am free this will shift your frequency this will shift your frequency to support the awakening that you are asking for period period period you're welcome

thank you hi I'm sorry to make it weird or make it base but I wanted to know what the guides think about sex so I'm relating to this French philosopher

and literary theorist George Bataille and he talks about how we're all in this we're all in this state of discontinuity and that sex can get us back to a state of continuity with one another and so sometimes I think about

that maybe sex is this thing and sometimes I fall into my life a quasi mystical thing where we are getting in touch with something divine or maybe some expression of our true selves and other times it's just a fucking trap and it's part of the continual

suffering of being a fucking human being maybe it's both I was just wondering if they ever talked to you about it they talked about it just this last week and I don't think it's in the book it was during a Q&A like this

and the guides pretty much say it's wonderful but you need to be aware of the divine in your partner in order for it to be a sacred act and that the debasement of form is really the soullessness that we can attach to things

so I'm saying and I'm not saying it right, their words are always better so let me see if I can get something short from them sex is what you claim it as they're saying sex is what you claim it as finally you're always engaging in vibrational accord in vibrational accord when you utilize

the body when you utilize the body as one of the ways to be in accord as one of the ways to be in accord you're in response to that you're in responsibility to that to know who another is to claim their truth to claim them in their truth

to bless them as they are and not try to make them who they are not will give you the support you need to have a level of agreement sexual and sexual included that you might learn something through period period period

and the second book, this is just me now the second book they wrote the book of Love and Creation they do a few pages on sex which is actually really helpful if you're interested but it's a longer thing I think they're going to get into in a later book, thank you I think we only have time for one more question

you guys in line I'm sorry you've got a hard out one more question, forgive me we got to wrap it up but one more question, I'm so sorry hey, I'll just make it quick about ten years ago I had an experience with a Ouija board that involved

four to five friends who weren't spiritual people although I had already been somewhat on that path it was specifically in regards to spirit guides that had communications for us, I was actually warned that I'd be injured we kind of wiped it off about few weeks later

I was assaulted by or involving somebody with an actual name that we got all this very specific information had come through that day so over the last ten years I've been wondering was that something that could have been communication by

the way it was working is that it was actually pulling out of our hands it was working on its own and then I've been told through friends that went to psychics to tell me specifically not to mess around because I was playing with danger although I did get specific information and coincidentally lost

the sheet of paper that contained all that information a few weeks later I was told specifically that day or that evening after six hours to return a few days later and do it again because they had more communication for me I never did I was wondering if you can I tend to say don't mess

with them you know I'm of that school I know although I think Jane Roberts who channeled Seth opened up at Ouija board I think it can be a powerful opening I really do think it goes back to who you're talking to and I think that two of the simplest things to be watchful for

are anybody that tells you to be frightened that tends to be low level and anybody that tells you how great you are and tries to flatter you because that appeals to the ego and it seems to be a way that we get sucked into stuff I don't get

that from my guides I get nurturing but I also don't get you know I actually got mostly nurturing and very specific family information through it but the one thing that it said was it was supposedly my grandfather as he said that he was my

closest spirit guide and what he said was is come back on the following Monday I said why and then it slowly spelled out because love well that's a nice answer you know I'm saying I've just lived with the idea is that something that we somehow could have

sold out on our own I don't I actually get no you know I mean I can douse with a pendulum but I've learned that unless I'm completely neutral to the question I can control it with my thinking so you know it's why

I psychics many of us don't read for ourselves you know because we're invested in the outcome and I think that that's not the energy the information that I get from myself from my guides is in the day in the moment and mostly about not making choices based in fear

when I ask is a good time to do this not wise would be the answer I get so you may have some ability you know and it sounds like that was a productive communication for you and you know foreign languages involving European descendants it was weird that sounds

it yeah that's not my stuff that's more in the realm of spiritual mediumship and talking with the dead I wasn't sure if you had much experience with that but thank you so much quickly thank you so much for this do you have any workshops coming up in town or how can people find you

on my website it's just my name paulselegp a u l s e l i g dot com there are workshops all over the country all over the world I'm back in New York I don't know when I mean I'm based here so I do workshops here every few months but if you on the website

you know there's a list of where I'll be I do what I do live streaming when but webinars where I channel and take questions pretty much every Wednesday and that's up on my website as well so there's lots of ways to work with the guides thank you Paul thank you guys

see you next time congratulations thank you thank you so much thanks for listening everybody that was paulseleg make sure you check him out over at paulseleg dot com

all the links to get to email will be at dunkintrustle dot com or you can go to holysons dot com hope to see you guys out on the playa I'm heading out there tomorrow I love you I'll see you in a couple of weeks I'll

try to get a podcast out next week but it's unlikely because I'm gonna be a burning man and there's no there's no internet out there but maybe anything's possible I'll see y'all real soon Hare Krishna

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