Dwarf Fortress Roundtable - Ep.111: Toast Hawaii

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

And this belated episode has a lot of talk about real world food, and continued musings on Adventure Mode....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Dwarf Fortress Roundtable is a bit like a hastily built fortress, rough around the edges and missing a few vital pieces. The host skipped introductions entirely because Jonathan had a grilling emergency, and the recording kicks off right in the middle of a story. At the time, they figured they'd clean it up later, but they didn't. After running a podcast for this long, a little chaos is inevitable. We hope you enjoy this irreverent and about 40% irrelevant episode. That part didn't go great for me. I was responding to this thing. These people are like, oh, yeah, there's a troublesome beast in their helix to the north.
Starting point is 00:00:50 And I was like, oh, okay, I'll just pop in. And then I pop into the screen, and then I see fire. And I was like, uh-oh. And then the next thing I knew the dragon was on me. And then that was, that was the end of it. And I was just like, you know, you guys could have given me a heads up that it was a dragon. Like that would have been cool. But, uh, you know, he did not do that.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I'm back. There you are. I have a 13 pound brisket on the, uh, on the smoker. Okay. Okay. Yeah. It is going to be so good. Is it, is it cats and dogs?
Starting point is 00:01:23 Well, I don't know how your butcher cuts up a cat, but, but here, um, yeah, we don't. It's like doing buffalo wings out of quail. It just wouldn't work. Yeah. So, no, it's not cat brisket. It's bovine. Cat brisket. Dog soap, though, is still the nicest.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I tell you what, I cut off, whenever I was trimming this thing last night, I cut off enough fat to actually make a batch of soap. Did your family process it into tallow? Did you need potash or lie or what do you need? No, it's... I don't even know. It's in a stockpile right now. Now, unprocessed.
Starting point is 00:01:59 It's in a stockpile with your stone thrones. Yeah. Rock throne. It sat on the floor of the butcher's workshop until the cat started nosing around it. They'll do it. That's what they'll do, those cats. Then I had to put a stockpile. Cats and dogs.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Happily, you know, it will last forever in a stockpile until it just won't go bad. Nice. Just don't make wine out of it. No refrigeration needed. Tallow wine. Yeah. All right. We would like to apologize.
Starting point is 00:02:28 for this interruption. However, at this point in the recording session, one of the hosts inadvertently revealed personal information not suitable for public release. Unfortunately, it had to be redacted. As a consolation, the producers hope that you will enjoy an irrelevant quote from Mr. Spock. Computers make excellent and efficient servants, but I have no wish to serve under them. And now, back to your regularly scheduled audio program. I'm a Berliner. Mm, fun, cool. Lecker.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Isn't that a, does that mean I'm a jelly donut? What am I doing? Yeah. Although, if you are a real belliner, you would never say belliner. Because that would make me a donut. We use a different name. Maybe I am a donut. Maybe you are a jelly donut.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Is that apocryphal? where Kennedy's saying I'm a Berliner saying I'm a donut. Yeah, that's what I was just, we were just checking in on that. Kind of, kind of. It was a donut. You do say Berliner to a jelly donut,
Starting point is 00:03:41 but only if you are, in fact, living everywhere else in Germany that isn't Berlin, because if you live in Berlin, a jelly donut is called a funcoupon. That's, yeah. I'm hungry. What about Toast Hawaii? Is that a good thing?
Starting point is 00:03:58 It's funny that you bring that up because I was planning on making that tomorrow. Jonathan, do you know what Toast Hawaii is? I was thinking German chocolate. I just wondered if they just call that chocolate. It's a German thing, Toast Hawaii. Let me see if I can get this right. It's like a piece of white bread with ham, canned pineapple. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And Bernays sauce? What kind of sauce does in? No, no, no, no, no, no, no saucy. You put like American processed cheese on it. So it is toast. Toast, ham, pineapple, marasino cherry, and cheese. Yeah, yeah. It's like toast, it's ham, canned pineapple, and some American processed cheese.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And then you put it in the oven. And then, like, it heats up and then you have, like, the molten cheese around your pineapple and the hot ham. So I just consider it American cheese, although it's, you should have the processed in there because it's not, I guess, it's a cheese product. But, man, it melts really. well it's like velvita well we we never say it's american cheese but i'm just trying to make you understand what kind of cheese i would put on my yeah it wouldn't be like an emmental or something so what do you call that like um i don't i personally say chablettenkesa which just means it's like a thin slice of milty cheese like cheese that melts easily chablaten keiser yeah that or
Starting point is 00:05:22 schmeltz keezer Which is just milty cheese. Meltie cheese. I could get that. And on this appendix of Dwar Fortress Roundtable, we are learning German in the hardest way possible. Well, I'll tell you what, though, like, American cheese isn't really a cheese. It's more of, like, a temporarily solid sauce. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:43 That's a condo. Yeah. That's a good way to put it. But it's like a man. It's not to say that it's always bad. It has its uses. No, no, it has its places. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to, like, serve people on it. cheese plate. If you mix some in with cheddar, it becomes a good emulsifier and lets the cheddar blend
Starting point is 00:05:58 better with other things. Shove it in a grilled cheese sandwich. Yeah, you put it on toast Hawaii. Or put it on toast Hawaii. There you go. For anyone that doesn't know, Wikipedia just has a dandy photo of toast Hawaii. Okay, I got to look at that. Yeah, seriously, just try it out. It's not that bad. It's like pineapple pizza. Okay, everybody bashes pineapple pizza, nobody eats pineapple pizza. I don't know. Other people on the internet bash it, just eat it. It's pretty good. That looks good. Yeah, exactly. What kind of sauce? What kind of, did you say that you do have a sauce for the toast to Hawaii? No, no, no, you don't put sauce on it. I don't. Okay, well, without the sauce, that looks pretty good. Yeah. It basically looks like Hawaiian pizza.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yep. That's, yeah, it's like a silly, light version of that. Just one little toast slice and, yeah. Have I told you guys about my discovery of braised eggs? A what now? I don't know about that. Sorry, not braced, pasted eggs. Basted eggs. Wow, that sounds complicated. You take a, I use butter for my fat, but you take a fat, you crack the eggs into the
Starting point is 00:07:03 fat in the skillet, and you just leave them there just long enough to basically solidify the egg whites, and then you dump boiling water on it, and it is like somewhere between a fried egg and a poached egg, but I also put a Cajun seasoning in the water, and it the flavors all blend together, put a lid on it, let the eggs steam. You never have to turn the eggs. It's kind of like over-easy, but you never turn them and have that over-buttered toast. Oh, my goodness, is so good. I learned it from the Bob Newhart Show.
Starting point is 00:07:36 So I call it Emily Hartley's Braised Eggs. I don't think anyone I know has ever said that before. Listen, listen, I had to Google what the hell you're talking about. And just this paragraph is absolutely insane to me. Have you ever made over-easy eggs at home? it's a pain trying to get that egg flipped without breaking what flipping eggs who's flipping their eggs that's how you make over easy americans do we flip our eggs we can we can flip them it's allowed yeah yeah you're not a difficult yoke but you don't want to have to flip the egg
Starting point is 00:08:13 then you're going to with sunny side up much easier the downside to that is that there's often the slimy goop. What are you people doing with your eggs? I don't know about slimy goop. I don't really like sunny side up or over easy that much. I like to have my yolks just about to the gelled stage.
Starting point is 00:08:33 So I like them to still have a liquid a liquidness to them, but not be, you know, running whenever you break the yoke on your plate, it runs all over it. The world is quite a place. The world is quite a place. And apparently you've never heard of like a lid for the pan.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Are we going to get through this? We're going to do it. We're going to get there. We're going to get through this entire episode without talking about Dural Fortress. Should we just say a couple of words about it? Yeah. Let's do that.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Do you guys still play? I play a lot. I like it. The following message is brought to you by the archivists for forgotten tales, Lucas, executive director. Have you ever wondered what happens behind the scenes of your dwarf fortress worlds? Legends mode is the key to uncovering it all. It's not just a mode, it's the library of history.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Every hero, villain, battle, and betrayal is recorded in stunning detail, waiting for you to piece together the epic stories that shape your world. Did a forgotten beast terrorize the same town for centuries? Did your fortress help tip the scales in a great war? Legends mode gives you the ultimate bird's eye view of a living, breathing universe. This message is brought to you by the archivists for Forgotten Tales under the leadership of Lucas, executive director, reminding you that every world has a story, and legends mode is the best way to read it. Dive into the history and discover the legends waiting to be told. I enjoyed our adventure mode thing. I think that Adventure Mode was much more.
Starting point is 00:10:16 playable now than it was. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Even in its beta state, it's more user-friendly, I think. It's been quite fun. I've had some great weird experiences, which is what I've looked for in this game recently. So I'm excited to kind of plunge forward and do weird things. I am too. And we'll see how the reception is to this episode that we are for the Adventure Mode play-through stuff. But it comes with a money by guarantee. We're trying to We're trying to look at ways that we can, you know, shake things up.
Starting point is 00:10:48 We've been out here. This is episode 111, which is a nice run for any podcast. That's three ones in a row. Yes, that is E1-1-1, man. Three in a row, baby. That's not 11-binary. That's, you know, seven binary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:04 You could spend your time listening to other podcasts, and we're glad you're not. No, you can't. You're not allowed to. We don't want you to have to be exclusive, though. You can listen to all the other podcasts you like. Just download us whenever we're not. we released an episode. We appreciate that. It's great. Tell your friends.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Well, you have them, I guess. You're playing an episode, Fortress. You'll lose them. And we've played a little bit more adventure mode on our own, at least I have. And Tony has. And Tony had a really cute story about a visit with a Minotaur. Would you like to tell your Minotaur story? Yeah. I was trying to help out this Hillix, who were having some troubles with a beast. And so they sent me up to go check it out, and I went into this tower thing, and there was a Minotaur in there. And he came charging up and attacking us, but then it gave me the option to talk to him.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And I asked him to cease the hostilities, and he thought that was a really good idea, and then agreed to stop fighting, and then was like, yeah, sure, have a look around. So I'm like, cool, but my horse, nobody told the horse that we were on good terms. And so the horse just followed this guy around. He's like running away, saying, we thought, wait, what are you doing? And the horse just kicked this shit out of him until he died. And that was the end. So that was how the Minotar lost his life was my horse. So, you know, the moral of the story is if you make peace, make sure to tell your horse.
Starting point is 00:12:31 But I don't know how to do that. But anyway, that's a thing that happened. It sounds like your horse is chaotic neutral and decided that it was just going to do what it wanted. I think I read somewhere. that horses can be really kicky and like that's a thing it sounds like this one chased down your former episode of that poor minotaur it felt really bad but then i then i you know then i then i got over it pretty quickly yeah yeah he may be good with you but i ain't nope the horse and he's like you know what do you what do you say to him you know not much for very long the most shocking part
Starting point is 00:13:06 the most shocking part about this is the the fact that the horse actually managed to kill the minotaur Did he fight back? Yeah, he did, but the horse... Pardon me. Sorry, beg your pardons. The horse just absolutely annihilated this poor creature. Damn. Felt really bad.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Okay, either your minotaur was really weak and like flimsy just had glass bones or your horse as buff as heck. Yeah, so I'm kind of wondering about that. because I think I've read before that horses can be a bit violent in adventure mode. So I was thinking maybe that's what it was. And then I figured maybe the Minotaur didn't fight back because, I mean, to be fair, we had said we were peaceful. So I don't know. I, you know, I felt bad.
Starting point is 00:13:59 But what are you going to do, right? Was this world that you played in? Did you make a pocket world? Yes, I did. I'm kind of thinking that's the way forward for these. I think so, too. And that may be the way forward for me for just the entire 12th, fortress experience because everything runs so quick and so smoothly.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Well, that's, that is true. You do run into problems. How so? Just pocket worlds. I think what problems have I had? I've had problems like you end up with like dying civilizations or it's, it's just like things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I don't know. I think I had like it was just basically the whole pocket world was just necromancers. Well, that's because you ran it for a thousand years, man. No, no, like even faster. Just like a regular. time horizon. It just seems like the necromancers just dominate. There's no geography to control them.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I wonder if there's any tweaks you can make in world gen for that. But in any case, though, if that world sucks, then it sucks, then you go on and you build another one. You just build another one. You build the world you want to see. Isn't that what Gandhi said? Be the world you want to be, man.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah. What other podcast quote Gandhi to you? Start with the dwarf in the mirror. The dwarf? You know what? I'm going to write that down. That's a good quote. Oh, you know, I also have a city, or I also have a very large fortress, and we're now the head of the civilization, and the king is a goblin. So that's a thing that I didn't know would happen. You can have a goblin king of your fort. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:27 That surprisingly happens fairly often when you have goblins getting into a civilization because they're like a mortal, and they get normal social skills. and at some point it seems they somehow inherit this title. And because they're functionally immortal, they don't have like a max age. They just stay king. But that means it should be fairly easy to find out where they live because you're now like a goblin inside a dwarish civilization and then you can try to assassinate them, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's not drawbridge resistant. Yeah, true. just uh yeah my goblin king he lives in the fortress like i could i could kill him but but i don't he seems okay he just asked me to make ballista parts all the time that's fine yeah okay i could have never used catapults in the game so i don't think they work very well that's my theory um i've never tried to build them i've never tried to do any siege siege weapons oh yeah well yeah the ballistas are cool i don't know that i've even built a siege workshop wow you should yeah you should.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Belisters are really fun because they cut through several people. The arrow is like a legit entity that travels over your screen and it will just continue traveling. It hits a goblin and then it hits the goblin behind it and it just keeps on flying. And if you have these long one-tile hallways that you are able to shoot down and the hallway is filled with goblins, then this arrow will just keep on
Starting point is 00:17:08 flying through all the goblins and everybody that doesn't dodge is absolutely shredded after. I love ballistas. Will a ballistic missile keep going through a fortification? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:21 So if you put a hallway trap with a ballista at the end of the hallway trap, and the hallway be one tile wide, and at the end of the hallway in the same direction as the ballista, you have a fortification at the end of the hallway so that the ballistic missile will leave the hall. Mm-hmm. Yep.
Starting point is 00:17:39 It's to be kind of dangerous, it's kind of like setting up, you know, a firing range with a neighborhood behind it. But, hey, you know. Mythbusters did that, didn't they? Yeah, there was a Mythbusters up. So it of a firing range with the neighborhood behind it? No, they fired a cannon and there happened to be a neighborhood behind it. And the cannonball left their firing range and went into the neighborhood and, like, went into somebody's house. Oh, oops, you daisy.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Oops. Oops, I hope that the show was successful at that point because they probably had to deal with a lawsuit. Yeah, I think that changed the way they did things. It was a bit of all, see-dips, yeah. It's usually a better idea to think of that beforehand and change the way you do things before you take out somebody's TV. Yeah, you know hindsight's 2020, right? It is. This portion of DF Roundtable is sponsored by the Society for the podcast.
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Starting point is 00:19:25 because your destiny isn't going to quest itself. We did have an adventure mode hot fix. Beta 24 apparently had this issue with, it says, fixed crash involving river audio polling. Apparently it was a pretty bad crash, though, because it was bad enough such that they did a quick hot fix. Yeah, I'll say that's cool. I mean, I've noticed it's very playable now.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Like, you can do things now. You know, it is funny how much Delphonzo's advice about using a small all world just made it feel better. You can go places in a pocket world. Like, I can keep track of it. The one thing that I wish would change in Dwarf fortress is, you know how sometimes it'll call it like, you know, the Dwarven fortress of lead bollocks. And then you go somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:20:17 And it's like the Dwarven fortress of Gahid, Gahufeshudarf. And it's like there's not a lot of consistency. The languages are not always the same. Yeah. So sometimes it'll translate it into English. and then sometimes it'll leave it in Dorven. And I get confused like that. I think there is a system behind that, but I can't tell you what it is.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I thought it maybe has to deal with the civilization. Like, you know the names translated of the places of your civilization, but you don't know exactly the names of other civilizations translated into your language, although it's like all dwarven. I'm not sure about that. But I do think there is a system behind that. Yeah, or like your people sometimes too. It'll be like, you know, techad flash paddles creates such and such.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And then, you know, I look and I have like eight techids, but I can't figure out which one's flash paddled because in the thing it's. Well, what I was going to say is, yeah, that used to be a problem with the pre-50 release where you would have, but then I realized, no, the problem happened when 50 came out where you can't find people because the name is not translated on the screen that you're looking at. but what you just looked at to find him, it was translated to human. However, that said, there is a DF hack tool that makes that dead simple. I think it was locate.
Starting point is 00:21:37 No, site map, the DFAC site map. Yeah, if you want to find someone, you can use their, yeah, it works wonderfully. Oh, I'm glad I'm listening to this podcast because I learned something. DFHack Corner.
Starting point is 00:21:50 There we go. I love it. Like the entire existence of us is just selling DFHack at this point, Or you know what? All things D.F. Hackey. Before you got on here, Roland, Tony suggested that
Starting point is 00:22:05 Bay 12 games acquired D.F.Hack. It would be like a hostile takeover. I don't know that it should be hostile, but it could be like whenever... Interesting idea. But then I sort of like the independence of it, you know? Like it doesn't have to follow the, you know, the same cadence of releases.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Been looking at computer history. There was a, there was, an acquisition by Microsoft in the mid-80s that Microsoft ended up getting some programmers that were instrumental
Starting point is 00:22:35 in Windows 3.1 happening. Vintage and classic. They really perfected it with work groups. I think that's really the difference that you have. You know,
Starting point is 00:22:48 early days, right. It's an interesting storyline. You should fire it up. Old Windows 3.1. Go out and grab your 286. Windows 3.1 is older than I am. I don't think I will do that. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's an experience. I've been trying to pick up an Atari 800 computer. I think they sell them in like vintage now, don't they? Like the little vintage. Yeah, I don't want the little freaking thing. I want to be able to program assembly language it with it. So I don't want to, I don't want the little fake console that you buy at Walmart in the game section. Yeah, that's basically just a rasper-by. It's surprising what people just give away for free. Well, yeah, I wish. They don't give it away for free.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I've been outbid on like three different auctions in the last week. Sorry about that. Well, you know, I don't want one so much that I'm going to pay stupid money for it. You don't want a mortgage on a box or something. What was it that you wanted? An Atari 800, a big computer from a, I'd really prefer to have the original design. I think they changed the design in like 82 or 83. But so it was start as they started released it in 79.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I think, and made this one little version of it. Zero frames per second door fortress. It sold with, I think, 48K of memory. And a tape drive, I think, didn't it? Does that just Commodore that did those? You could buy a tape drive with it, but it was also cartridge-based. Yep. Thank you for listening to Retro Wrap Up.
Starting point is 00:24:22 You know, I'm trying to angle to be a guest on the Retro Computer Roundtable program. Oh, I see. Maybe that's our Fusion episode. We're going to talk about playing Door Fortress on your toaster. Welcome today. That's the wrong. That's the wrong. Does Door Fortress run on your smart fridge? Find out now.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I sure hope it does. But does it play Door Fortress? I would totally buy a Samsung fridge if it So, Roland, if you look at the Discord, I just popped a picture of an Atari 800 computer in there. Yeah, I looked it up. I looked it up how much they go for. $200 bucks, $200, apparently. There you go.
Starting point is 00:25:02 You know, that's a little more than I want to pay for it, but maybe what I have to pay for it. That's less than a Kindle. Yeah, if I'm going to be $200 for it, then I want it to be pretty much a complete system with a working disk drive. We're going to buy this? And the whole reason I want is because whenever I was a little kid,
Starting point is 00:25:21 I had an Atari $2,600, right? And then I would, my, my parents were big into audio, right? And there was this home electronics store called Hubert's that my parents would go in and they would buy a turntable cartridge or turntable needle or various stuff for their stereo. And whenever I go in there as a little kid like 10 years old, I would see this Atari 800 computer running a demo that was hooked up to one of those humongous projection TVs with the three different, you know, they were just horrible quality of a picture, but it was big, you know. So, and then I'd see this, the display and just my job would be like, oh, wow. Well, that's cool. I got to have one. And I was, like, really hooked on coin-op video games at the time.
Starting point is 00:26:02 So this was like the early golden age of video games, right? It's when Donkey Kong was current. Yep. My, yep, that's a hard game. I want one for the nostalgia's sake. It'll probably sit there and collect dust on my table, but I want one. It sounds good. Sounds good.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Back to Door Fortress. Anyway. Jonathan's Nistalgia Corner. Dwarf Fortress Roundtable is brought to you in part by a grant from Mondragar, president of the Coalition for Fortress Excellence. Fortress mode is where Dwarf Fortress becomes an epic sandbox of creativity, strategy, and storytelling. It's not just a game, it's an experiment in leadership under the most absurd conditions imaginable. You'll design intricate fortresses, manage eccentric dwarves with endless quirks,
Starting point is 00:26:51 and face challenges ranging from forgotten beasts to goblin invasions to, well, your own bad planning. Every fortress is unique, every triumph hard-earned, and every collapse a spectacular tale to share. This message is brought to you by the Coalition for Fortress Excellence, led by President Mondragar, dedicated to helping you embrace the joy of triumph, the beauty of failure, and the magic of a good stockpile. Fortress Mode, because history is better when you run. ride it yourself. Yeah, I, um, yeah, so having a good time in adventure mode, uh, it feels a bit like Caves of Cud, if you've had Caves of Cud.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I have never played Kings of Cud. Is it worth playing? Um, um, I want to like it. You know, honestly, I would say yes, because if you're already at the point where you enjoy Dwarf fortress, then why not try it? Yeah. Um, it is however more like, science fiction, because there's a lot of weird stuff in it that is, is science fiction related.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I don't mind sci-fi. And, yeah, yeah. So it's like a science fiction-esque nonsense to a fortress, but I really love it. More playable than Catechlysm Dark Days Ahead, I would say. I'd like to play that, too. It's, yeah. CDDA is fun, but, like, it's highly variable. The last time I played it, I spawned in as a teacher into a row.
Starting point is 00:28:21 room of students who were all zombies and they killed me instantly. It's like basically two turns and I was dead. So it's not afraid to, it's not afraid to juice you. Oh, I had a thought earlier and I did want to interrupt your stream to say it, but one of the things that I like about pocket worlds, what's that? I said, oh, that's kind. Don't interrupt the guy ranting. He's a one of the reasons why I like the pocket worlds is, well, in most fantasy fiction that I've read, you know like you got middle earth you have whatever that land was that was in the terry brooks shinar series but your your setting tends to be a like a continent that is a subset of a greater world it seems to happen uh quite a bit in fantasy and that's what it looks like whenever you have
Starting point is 00:29:09 a whenever you have a pocket world it you look at it it looks like it is a little you know giant island that is separated from what could be a larger world yeah oh that's a that's a cool way to think of it Yeah, you're actually just playing a small part in a bigger plan. Yeah, and you may never know that bigger world except where the gods, you know, interact with you, which does that happen? I've never had, I've never had divine intervention in fortress mode or, or adventure mode. No, I didn't think it did happen. Define divine intervention. You mean like, God's causing things to happen.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Oh, yeah, no, no, no, absolutely. And you know that it's God's causing things to happen. Does it? can, for example, go topple a statue, and then they get angry at you. That happens. That is the best way to make vampires, like fabricate them. Are you notified that you've been stricken by the wrath of a god? Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:30:06 It's a little bit of a gamble, because a lot of the times it can also turn you into a wear beast, which is fine, but if you're looking for a vampire, then you probably have to save scummit. a little. I did that with the hyena man adventurer, like a long while back. And then I ran around like an island and I realized that the only place on the island is this little town and I fudged myself because my dude could not swim. So I was stuck on the island as a vampire that killed pretty much everybody. You'd think at some point you could just be like, you know what? I need to learn to swim. I'm stuck on this island for eternity. Well, to be Fear, to be fair. It's not like you learn how to swim in a nice swimming pool with a teacher and like a lifeguard, but you're alone and this is the ocean.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And you're immortal. I don't know. Maybe not the best part, but also there's sharks. Yeah, I suppose that would challenge the immortality, wouldn't it? A little, yeah. That's tough. Shark vampires. Hmm. So the other things that I'm enjoying in adventure mode is populating my fortresses with intelligent wildlife. of creatures. That's surprisingly easy and fun to do. Like I brought, well, I goofed it up, but I brought a, I was trying to bring in a breeding pair of king snake people. And then I ended up bringing two men in and that's, they're never going to lay eggs. But to be fair, while that is really fun to do, because they are adventurous, they're always asexual. So they will never marry or
Starting point is 00:31:43 have children. Oh, so they'll never be egg layers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you will never have anything from them you will have to use df hack to actually change it back overwrite their personality so that your previous adventurer now can have children and will have a family um this has obvious implications why that exists for adventure mode um but if you have df hack then it works surprisingly well uh i had ratmen like i brought a bunch of ratmen to my fortress. Then I changed them with D.F. Hack. So they would have a family. And then they had like little rat children. It was really cute. I remember that? Do you remember if, is it called like Dorvan ID, IVF or something? Like, how do you do it?
Starting point is 00:32:38 What? Is it the IV? Oh, do you know what IVF is? Sorry. Yeah. No. Okay. Yeah. So I was just wondering, how do you do it? Do you know what the command is? Do you just. Yeah. Hang on, on the top of my head, it was... Well, it all happens to the traction bench in a Dwarven hospital. I don't think I've ever seen anyone use the traction bench yet. I always do it if you build them. Not that way. No, that's true.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's a GM unit. Okay. It's something like GM unit. D.F. Hack will show you when you type it in. And then you get a little menu, and depending on whom, you're clicking on you get this little menu and then you can change literally every single variable about that dwarf including size weight their their family relations everything everything you can change that's pretty cool i mostly use it to for example make my adventurers
Starting point is 00:33:37 proper citizens that can have children or check numbers for for example strength because there's there's legit numbers and like a real number system behind the dwarfs that you will not get a real access to when you just check the normal in-game vanilla way. It will just tell you this dwarf is strong, but it won't exactly say the number, the exact number, and for example, what the maximum is, because there's like a race maximum to strength and agility and whatnot, and you can change that as well. So, for example, you can just put a zero behind it.
Starting point is 00:34:18 suddenly you have a dwarf that can become stronger than like 50,000 elephant men at once, just by, you know, doing a few sit-ups. Is it the John scenification of one of your dwarves? Kind of, kind of, yeah. Is that the plug-in name? Okay. So a GM unit is extremely powerful, and you can just make, like, a super-cyergen dwarf, if you want. Okay, I love that.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Okay, yeah. because no, I don't think my two men, even if I change them, are going to be able to have eggs. I don't think they're seahorse people, so. Sea horse people? That would be pretty cool, because then, no, I don't think so. But it would be cool if there were, but the men would lay the eggs because that's the way that system works.
Starting point is 00:35:03 That's a whole other version of Dwell Fortress where you have sea creatures that you can interact with. I bet somebody wrote a mod for sea creature people that are playable. You have to play the water, though, right? Yeah, you have to build underwater. fortresses and stuff. That would be cool. I don't think you can found a site in this version of adventure mode. I know the key is there, but like when I push it, nothing happens.
Starting point is 00:35:29 They're not done, I guess. Yeah, I think it's the B button, but it, but it, um, but it doesn't do anything. And then, but I do love the fact that you can use the animal people's special abilities. I think that's really neat. Like, I don't know what the value of retracting into your shell is, but it's neat as a concept. Okay, guys, let's go ahead and wrap this one up. Let's tie it off. I'd like to encourage all of our listeners to go out there and play yourself some adventure mode.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Do it. Let's hear some stories. I want to hear some stories. If you're brave enough to join the beta on Steam, if that's the way you, I'm not sure exactly what channel they're using for getting the Adventure Mode beta out to the non-graphics, the non-premian version. but I don't know. You may just have to wait until they release it in six and a half, seven years. It's going to be the new, where are they going to release it? When will Door Fortress leave early access? All right, guys. Adios.
Starting point is 00:36:28 See you later. And always remember to start with a dwarf in the mirror. That's right. Always remember to start with a dwarf in the mirror. Thank you. That's a really good quote. See you next to us. Be the door if you want to see.
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