Dwarkesh Podcast - Lessons from The Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert Caro [Narration]

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

This is a narration of my blog post, Lessons from The Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert Caro.You read the full post here: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/lyndon-johnsonListen on Apple Podcasts, Spotif...y, or any other podcast platform. Follow me on Twitter for updates on future posts and episodes. Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkesh.com/subscribe

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody. This is a narration of my blog post, Lessons from the Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert Caro. This was written May 3, 2023. Explore a single individual deeply enough, and truths about all individuals emerge, Robert Caro. Robert Carrow's The Years of Lyndon Johnson are not only the best biographies I have ever read, and not only the best histories I've ever read,
Starting point is 00:00:28 they're perhaps the best books I've ever read. Below are the main lessons I've got from these four volumes about power and powerful personalities. If you do everything, quote, as an N.Y.A. director to him, ours made no difference. Days made no difference. Nights made no difference. As an unknown 28-year-old running his first seemingly hopeless campaign for Congress against seven older, better-known opponents, a race in which he drove himself, so ruthlessly that a fellow politician, a man who worked terribly hard himself, said, I never knew a man could work that hard. At every stage in his adult life, as Congressman's secretary, congressman, senator, he had displayed a willingness to push to their very edge and beyond the edge,
Starting point is 00:01:20 the limits not only of politics, but of himself. In every crisis in his life, he had worked until the weight dropped off his body, and his eye sunk into his head, and his face grew gaunt and cavernous, and he trembled with fatigue, and the rashes on his hands grew raw and angry. And whenever, at the end of one more in a very long line, a very long days, he realized that there was still one more task that should be done, he would turn without a word hinting at fatigue, to do it, to do it perfectly. its career had been a story of manipulation, deceit, and ruthlessness.
Starting point is 00:02:00 But it had also been the story of an intense physical and spiritual striving that was utterly unsparing. He would sacrifice himself to that ambition, as ruthlessly as he sacrificed others. If you did everything, you'll win. To Lyndon Johnson, everything meant literally that, absolutely anything that was necessary. If some particular effort might help, that effort would be made no matter how difficult making it might be. Robert Caro means of assent. There are three kinds of extraordinary attempts.
Starting point is 00:02:39 In the first, a person perfectly executes on the 20% of things which will produce 80% of the results. In the second, a person extends that same care and diligence to the remaining 80% of tasks, because every marginal drop of results, no matter how diminishing, is worth the squeeze. And the third is exemplified by Lyndon Johnson, for a person not only does every single thing that might reasonably help his odds, but even the unreasonable. He accepts the assignment, which has only the remotest possibility to make the difference, and he completes it with the same intensity and attention as the task which will make all the difference. If you do everything, you'll win. The reason why Robert Caro is able to write so compellingly about these qualities of Lyndon Johnson,
Starting point is 00:03:30 his resourcefulness and ruthlessness, his inexhaustible energy, his need to win, his inability to take no for an answer, is that the biographer shares many of the attributes of the subject. A man who has spent almost 50 years writing the biographies of a single person, who has spent those decades sifting through thursday. thousands of crates of documents in the LBJ Library, or making former goons disclose how they helped Johnson steal elections, or moving to the Texas Hill country, to experience for himself the poverty and lowliness of Johnson's youth,
Starting point is 00:04:07 who continues to push himself in this way past his 87th birthday when other men would have long retired, because his last volume, the one about the presidency of Lyndon Johnson, remains unfinished, is a man who understands Johnson's aphorism, him, if you do everything, you'll win. Did Lyndon Johnson push himself to his physical limits and then beyond, to satisfy a lifelong
Starting point is 00:04:32 ambition that was almost spiritual in its intensity? A man nearing 90 doesn't just wake up with a physical energy to turn the next page. Something other than the physical must be motivating him. Did Lyndon Johnson manipulate people to get what he wanted? Well, it wasn't just a charming New York accent, which I'll allowed Kara to elicit damning confessions from the people around Johnson, including Lady Bird herself, whose testimony inadvertently helps paint her beloved late husband as a philandering amoral megalomaniac. I imagine him, Kero, sitting in front of the Smith-Corona typewriter,
Starting point is 00:05:11 frustrated that the words no longer flow as easily as they used to, that he keeps losing his train of thought, that he fatigues much faster than he used to. I imagine him glancing at framed images of the Johnson aides he has interviewed over the decades, people with whom he had developed close friendships, and I see him remembering each of their funerals. Quote, I used to call him Horace Busby, day after day as I was writing, to ask him if he remembered some detail I'd forgotten task about. My single-spaced notes of our interviews are 142 pages. Buzz was one of the smartest analyzers of politics and people I ever met. We can be became great friends and we used to go out to dinner together. Buzz had cried a crush on Ina,
Starting point is 00:05:57 Kara's wife. Once he had a stroke, and when he got out of the hospital, he wrote Ina a letter. He wrote that when he was afraid he was going to die, he thought, it will be hard on Robert because nobody can tell him about the vice presidency. The letter was typed. He could still type. But when he tried to sign his name in ink, it could only make a scrawling, shaky bee. Ina cried when she saw that. I may have to hear it up a little bit, too, Robert Currow, working. I imagine him, for Gretting, the years he spent studying that one Senate race from the 40s that Lyndon Johnson stole from Coke Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:06:38 While that race was important, did it detract from the sum of time he could dedicate to his magnum opus? Did it make the completion of the final volume impossible? I imagine him worrying whether, in his old age, he's able to do justice to this project and his legacy. I see him picking up one of his older volumes, reading a passage of beautiful prose, and remembering the moment of clear insight and hypnotic flow from which it emerged. I see him asking himself how long it's been since he had one of those moments, and I see him comparing that decades-old excerpt to the stilted and simple writing he's able to produce in his lady. 80s. And yet he can't rest, to surrender the task to which he has dedicated the overwhelming majority of his life, to enjoy with his wife the golden years of his life, to hand off his research
Starting point is 00:07:32 notes to some young enterprising biographer, that would be unthinkable, for it was not just Lyndon Johnson who had to win. But there's one big difference between Johnson and Cairo. The pages of history are crowded with the names of men who are willing to do everything for advancement, for money, or for fame. I understand how people could be so resourceful, ruthless even, for power. But how likely are you to find somebody who has the intensity and ambition of a Napoleon or an Alexander and who is willing to aim those talents towards writing a great biography? It's like finding out that Darth Vader is using the Dead Star to carve wooden figurines. Men like Caro are rarer than men like Johnson, because the willingness to do everything
Starting point is 00:08:25 is usually paired with an unyielding need for personal power, wealth, or status. And one of the consequences of this fact is that there will always be more great people who have lived fascinating and important lives than there are people capable of writing great biographies of them. I remember Bern-Hobart asking who, outside of politics, would make for a great candidate for a Cairo biography. If you could ask GPT-7 to write, in the style of Robert Caro, biography of some figure in tech, science, or entertainment, what is the first name you enter into that prompt? My answer? Robert Carrow's books are about formidable, single-mindedly devoted characters with storybook life arcs. If maybe the case,
Starting point is 00:09:11 then, that the only person who could write the biography of Robert Carroll is the man himself. Ambition Lyndon Johnson, as president, was perhaps the person most responsible for the advance of modern liberalism, maybe second to FDR. And yet, throughout his entire pre-presidential career, he was sponsored and mentored, mainly by men who were conservative, reactionary, and even racist to their core. For the first 55 years of his life, he had convinced men of tremendous intellect and drive of their own that he was a sign of the Southern cause, that the only hope for that cause
Starting point is 00:09:52 was to make Lyndon Johnson precedent, so much so that when Johnson was a majority leader, the Southern senators, who at the time controlled all the important committees in Congress, allowed Johnson to pass liberal legislation they scorn because they believed it would help him become president. And they believed, as president, Johnson would govern as a conservative, especially on the issue of race. The tragic irony and betrayal here is hard to overemphasize. These powerful conservative men, who, while being ignorant and backward in certain ways, were famously shrewd and intelligent, conceded on issue after issue and campaigned with their immense political influence for a man who ended up being the biggest liberal president since FDR.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Here is the story Robert Carrow recounts after interviewing the dying former senator from Georgia, Herman Talmich. Quote, asked about his relationship with Lyndon Johnson in the Senate, Talmich said, At first, for years, I liked him. He spent a lot of time cultivating me, hours and hours. They would talk about everything, Tomich said. Girls, hunting.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And, Tomic said, they would talk about civil rights and the relationship between whites and Negroes. How did Lyndon Johnson view the relationship between whites and Negroes? Master and servant, Tompich replied. Well, didn't he have any sympathy for their situation? None indicated, Tomic replied. Tomic said that during the 1950s, Johnson would assure the southerners that they could count on him to weaken a civil rights bill as much as possible, that he was on their side of the civil rights issue, that he had to pretend he wasn't to meet the Southern Caucus as infrequently as possible, but that he really
Starting point is 00:11:38 was their ally. He would tell us, I'm one of you, but I can help you more if I don't meet with you. And, Talmich said, that Southerners believed him. Believed that while changes in the civil rights law were inevitable, Johnson would keep them as minor as possible, that he was with us in his heart. I believed him, Tomich said, but I changed my opinion. When? When he was president, Tomic said.
Starting point is 00:12:04 How did you feel then? Disappointed, Tomic said. Angry. There was a long pause, and then he added, sick. When asked, how did you feel when he said, we shall overcome? Tomic replied, sick. The author then asked, did you feel that Lyndon Johnson betrayed you? There was a longer pause.
Starting point is 00:12:26 You could not have been easy. for a politician as wily as Herman Talley to admit that he had been fooled so completely. Yes, he said. Robert Caro, Master of the Senate. I hear a lot of talk about empowering ambitious young people within Silicon Valley circles. The word ambition seems to have lost the suspicion with which it was treated in previous generations. For example, the Federalist papers explicitly say that the purpose of this new constitution is to counteract rather than empower ambition. This is largely a good thing.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Smart young people are usually quite self-interested. And a society does better by aligning their self-interest with the social good than by discarding competent people altogether. But a bit of shrewdness is warranted when you meet a brilliant 18-year-old who claims to believe what you believe, who might have actually gotten himself to believe what is convenient to believe right now, and who is eager for admission, mentorship, a grant, or an open rule. Counterfactuals. A professor in college once told me that you don't really understand a proof until you see all the alternative ways in which it could have been constructed. The same is true of
Starting point is 00:13:40 history. To understand a place and a time is not only to know what happened, but to understand what could have happened instead, and what historical dynamics picked our timeline over the counterfactuals. There is a perennial debate about whether great men or great forces direct the floor of history. This debate is too big for a single story to provide anything but an anecdote. But nonetheless, we proceed. The unexpected death of a president provides the closest thing to a natural experiment that history can offer. In an instant, one man is substituted for another. And how much that man matters in comparison to the forces around him becomes all.
Starting point is 00:14:23 obvious rather quickly, based on how different are the results he can obtain. The civil rights movement in America had been building up for decades later into 1964. It was not in some obvious sense stronger in 1964 and 1965 than it was in 1963. And yet, 64 and 65 saw a torrent of liberal legislation that just a year earlier was hopelessly stuck in committee. quote, Scoop Jackson would say that when Jack Kennedy, as president, urgently needed a senator's vote, he would summon him to the Oval Office and would explain precisely why that bill was so important and how much he needed the senator's support. If, however, that Senator said his constituency
Starting point is 00:15:09 would not permit him to give that support, that if he gave Kennedy the vote he needed, the vote might cost him his seat in the Senate, Kennedy would find him to be. finally say he was sorry they couldn't agree, but that he understood. Lyndon Johnson, Jackson would say, and Jackson worked closely with Johnson as representative and senator for 25 years, Lyndon Johnson wouldn't understand, would refuse to understand. He would charm you or knock your block off or bribe you or threaten you, anything to get your vote, Jackson would say. He would do anything he had to to get that vote, and he'd get it. That was a difference.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Robert Caro mastered the Senate. As Vice President, Johnson had been sidelined by Kennedy. He had gone from the second most powerful person in the country as Senate Majority Leader to a humiliated showpiece, who could not even get an audience with Kennedy without waiting for months. The scene of him returning to power, as illustrated in Volume 4, The Passage of Power, reminds me of Steve Jobs returning to Apple. Executives and product managers are called in to explain why they have been making such unthinking and obvious mistakes. Entire departments are disbanded or reorganized.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Important projects which have been stuck for years are jolted into action. At the time of Kennedy's death, not only was the President's Civil Rights Bill hopelessly trapped somewhere in the gears of the congressional machinery, but so were several other important appropriations bills, including Kennedy's tax cut bill, which was essential to an economic recovery. Literally, within days of the assassination, Johnson had identified why all these bills had been stuck, and he had been able to get them moving. Even as head of a separate branch of government, Johnson was able to micromanage Congress, feeding his ideas for parliamentary maneuvers to his pro-to-J Senate Majority Leader Hubert Humphrey, instructing executive agency heads to make grants to certain state projects contingent on the loyalty of that state's representative, and renewing his relationships with the old southern barons of the Senate. who helps Johnson as their protege. How, when confronted with evidence like this, can we claim that the great men of history are irrelevant,
Starting point is 00:17:25 and that the great forces could have proceeded without them? Reading power. Quote, Lyndon Johnson's political genius was creative, not merely in the lower technical aspects of politics, but on much higher levels. If there was a single aspect of his creativity that had been, throughout his career, most impressive, it was the capacity to look at an institution that possessed only limited political power,
Starting point is 00:17:51 an institution that no one else thought of as having the potential for any more than limited political power, and to see in that institution the potential for substantial political power, to transform that institution so that it possessed such power, and, in the process of transforming it, to reap from that transformation substantial personal power for himself. Robert Caro, Master of the Senate. In college, Johnson was blackballed by an exclusive club called the Black Stars, so he formed the White Stars, and from it he practiced the same Machiavellian talents,
Starting point is 00:18:26 which he would eventually rehearse on a national stage. He would steal elections, distribute to loyal friends the patronage he earned from kissing up to administrators, and even direct members to sleep with girls in order to manipulate their votes. Who would bother doing all this to win a college election? the kind of person who would eventually win a national election. Before Lyndon Johnson grasped for it, the Senate majority leadership was seen as a crown of thorns to be avoided by anyone serious about his political career. It forced the holder to take positions on controversial proposals and bills,
Starting point is 00:19:02 but did not give him the power by which to get other senators to vote in solidarity with these positions. Before Lyndon Johnson became Senate Majority Leader, the Senate was, as it is, as it is, is now, a chamber of bickering old men who would hamstring and belay any important legislation. The men in charge of the most powerful committees in Congress, and therefore the most powerful men in Congress, were not figures of generational gravitas and wisdom, as during the time of the founders, or in the reign of Clay Calhoun and Webster, but rather they were senile old men, unable to comprehend, much less energetically solved, the problems of a technologically advanced modern society. The institution was becoming a joke, one that was contemptuously told,
Starting point is 00:19:47 and the default punchline of the joke would be the Senate Majority Leader who was the face of this fecklessness chamber. More than one Majority Leader lost re-election because he was identified in the press as the man accountable for the Senate's failure to get anything done, and because the responsibilities for this thankless job kept him away from his state, while his opponent got to attack a wide surface area of physicians that a majority leader is forced to take. It was largely because the position of leader was seen as an embarrassing and powerless one that Johnson was able to maneuver himself into it only after four years in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:20:24 But while the majority leader was a crippled figurehead until Johnson, this was a disability designed by the founders. Senators were meant to be independent and equal ambassadors for sovereign states. They were supposed to be wise, powerful aristocratic personalities, who would, through lengthy deliberation and redrafting of vils, check the transient impulses of the majority, and of the House, which is a direct representation of the majority's will.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Volume 3, Master of the Senate, tells the story of how Lyndon Johnson inverted the founder's vision of the Senate, how he converted the majority leadership, formerly a meaningless position that was fumbled around like a hot potato into the seat of absolute power, How he became, behind the president, the second most powerful person in the country.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It is also the story of how Lyndon Johnson made the Senate function. Maybe not in the way the Senate founders intended it to function, but function nonetheless. The volume about Johnson's domination of the Senate reads a lot like the story of how modern nation states, like France or Germany performed. A powerful king disempowers provincial medieval lords, institutes top-down bureaucracy, and claims the monopoly on violence. In a single day, as Newsweek reported, the Senate passed 90 bills, confirmed an ambassador and as Federal Trade Commissioner, and then knocked off because it had temporarily run out of business.
Starting point is 00:21:53 The elapsed time, four hours and 43 minutes. Washington was jolted to attention. The first session of the 84th Congress, Aslop wrote, is certainly the most efficiently run session in recent memory. In less than six months, as a majority leader, the youngest majority leader in its history Lyndon Johnson has tamed the untamable Senate. Robert Carrow, master of the Senate. Here are the top handful of maneuvers by which Lyndon Johnson became the master of the Senate.
Starting point is 00:22:24 One. Each party in the Senate had a policy committee, a tertiary institution whose responsibility was to give some clarity on the will of the party as a whole. But under the leadership of Johnson, the Democratic Policy Committee went from observing to deciding the will. of the party. Johnson asked the heads of the Senate's most powerful standing committees, which acted as independent barrenies, if they would be so kind as to advise his policy committee on the content and timelines of their bills. Slowly but unmistakably, Johnson's policy committee would be the ones advising the standing committees, not the other way around. The policy committee would suggest what the bills being drafted inside these committees ought to say. It would also
Starting point is 00:23:09 suggest when the bills ought to hit the floor so that it wouldn't clash with other important legislation in the calendar. If a deal needed to be struck between two senators were a bill to move forward, then it was not the senators who would resolve their differences. Rather, they would come before their majority leader, like fighting siblings, who come crying to their mommy to iron out compromises. Two, before he would bring a bill to the floor, he would make a motion for a unanimous consent agreement. This parliamentary device, among the many that Johnson discovered hidden and dusty old rulebooks and transformed into instruments' control,
Starting point is 00:23:48 restricted the ability of senators to debate bills or offer amendments once they were already on the floor. The very raison d'autre of the Senate was to consider an alter legislation in a studious and unhurried manner. But this lethargic pace was not acceptable to the new majority leader. 3. It was not just bills which Johnson moved through the Senate. It was the senators themselves. The Democratic Steering Committee decided who would be assigned to which communities, and who among them would be the chairs of those committees. Before Lyndon Johnson became maturity leader, these positions were filled by seniority, so that the most important committees, which were the most coveted, were filled to the oldest members, and the oldest among them would be their committee
Starting point is 00:24:31 chairman. Seeing the sluggishness and inflexibility of these old men, Johnson was resolved. all to change the system. Immediately after his ascension, the steering committee started selecting not the oldest candidate, but the candidate who Johnson wanted. This required, of course, loyalty to Johnson, but allegiance was not sufficient. These men had to be capable of pushing through the bills which Johnson needed to be pushed through. And so, for the 10 years in which Johnson was majority leader, Mirrod became a greater consideration that seniority in the appointment of committee seats and chairmanship. 4. All these powers reinforced each other. Because of the overwhelming control which Johnson had over
Starting point is 00:25:10 what bills would say and when, or whether they would make it to the floor, senators would have to appeal to him directly in order to get things moving. And here is a situation engineered to produce leverage. You do not antagonize a man who will decide whether the bill authorizing a major project in your state will get added to the docket, or whether you will remain chair of your community before you become too senile to do your job. You will be asked to do favors if you want a certain vote to go one way or another, and should you obstruct the majority leader, you will be threatened to back down, lest you want all your future bills, projects, and committee assignments, blocked.
Starting point is 00:25:47 All these threats and favors built up an ever-thickening enamel of soft power atop the already sturdy marrow of parliamentary creativity. Net effect of all these reforms was that bills drafted in large part by Johnson aides and from the policy committee, would pass through the Senate expeditiously and without complication, like a high-fiber meal. What is interesting is that Johnson accomplished each of these maneuvers without opposition from other senators. These were wise, shrewd men who treasured their own power and independence, and not just for its own sake, but because they believed that their cherished Senate
Starting point is 00:26:25 would lose its very purpose if one man could run the chamber like an orchestra. quote, Johnson accomplished this almost without conflict or opposition precisely because authority and influence of this kind had been of no significance to the exercise of Senate powers and were not perceived as a potential threat to those who ruled. It did not occur to his powerful associates, respectfully consulted in every move, that from such insubstantial resources Lyndon Johnson was shaping the instruments which would make him arbiter and eventually the master of the United States. Senate. Robert Caro, Master of the Senate. Richest to rags.
Starting point is 00:27:05 An interesting thing I've noticed in the biographies of great men is that their ancestry includes people of great status and power. But for tragic and random reasons, their family has fallen into poverty and humiliation by the time they are born. So there ends up being this conflict between the station they feel entitled to because of their aristocratic heritage and the demeaning and conspicuous scarcity they have to face growing up. And the ambition of these men seems to be in large part motivated by the need to resolve this incongruity. Some notable examples. Napoleon.
Starting point is 00:27:39 The Nabonaparts were a noble family on the island of Corsica. When that island was conquered by France, the former nobility lost most of their wealth and privileges. Instead of being respected for his elite descent, young Napoleon was mercilessly bullied. He would not be found in the playground socializing with other kids, but rather in the library, reading about the campaigns of Alexander or Caesar. Churchill, his father, Lord Randolph Trochow, made it all the way to the cabinet, but in one of the biggest blunders in British political history, threatened a resignation that, to his surprise, was accepted.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Churchill was raised to believe that he was part of the ruling class of Britain, and that he had inherited, with his privilege, a noblest oblige. Later in his life, he wrote a four-volume biography of his ancestor, John Marlborough. who led the Allied armies from 1701 to 1710 against Louis XIV, 14th. But in reality, his childhood had little resemblance to the nobility which he thought he inherited, and his father, whom he idolized his entire life, was powerless and humiliated, not to mention negligent. And so it was with Lyndon Johnson. Quote, Lyndon's father, Sam, was described as a man of great optimism,
Starting point is 00:28:56 and to some extent that optimism was justified in Austin, popular and skilled in the legislature, he got an impressive number of laws passed, but he had also had to make a living, and he had to make it in the hill country, and his optimism, his romanticism, idealistic streak, kept him from looking at the hard facts. Generations before, in the 1870s and 80s, the era of the cattle kingdom, there had been a great sprawling Johnson ranch along the Perdin-Ale's River, but the family had ceased to make money and had lost the ranch some decades before Lyndon Johnson was born in 1908. And now, when Johnson was 10 years old, it came back on the market, and Sam Johnson determined to buy it, to recreate the original Johnson Ranch, to make the whole Perdinass
Starting point is 00:29:41 Valley Johnson country again. One reason the ranch had been lost, however, was that its soil had worn out, had washed away when cattle graced on it, or later when attempts were made to grow cotton on it, and there was no longer much soil left atop the limestone base. But beautiful as it was when Sam looked at it, there wasn't going to be any way of making money out of that land. And Sam didn't realize that. Seeing how beautiful it was, he had this romantic dream of restoring the great Johnson ranch. And so he believed he was going to make it pay.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And to outbid other people, he overpaid for that ranch. He paid so much that the ranch couldn't possibly earn back what he paid for it. And very quickly, when Johnson was 14, Sam went broke and lost the ranch. And a crucial element of Lyndon Johnson's youth is a consequence of that loss. The insecurity that followed. Every month, Johnson had to live with a fear that the bank was going to take that house away. He lived in the house in which his father, broken by his financial failure, was constantly ill, and there was often no food, and the neighbors brought covered plates.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Worst of all, perhaps, his father became the laughing stock of the town, an object of ridicule. Sam Johnson is a mighty smart man, but he's got no sense. and the speeches given at political barbecues as his son stood listening. Robert Caro working. A reader of men. There's a theory that our ability to empathize with people originated to help us and manipulate them. If we have a theory of mind about somebody,
Starting point is 00:31:10 we can simulate how we can get them to believe a lie or to do something for us or feel a certain way about us. Among old-school liberals, Johnson's empathy is legendary. He saw the plight of the foresight of the foresight, elderly and colored, and he did more than any other president to help them. Among old school conservatives, what is legendary is Johnson's ability and willingness to make people bend to his will. To powerful old men, he would posture as a son eager for his respected father's sage advice in favor. To men who were his equals, he would cajole those whose egos were too big and
Starting point is 00:31:44 threatened those whose egos were not big enough. He would craft tailor-made arguments for different people that are mutually contradictory. He would tell a liberal liberal that a moderate bill must pass, because there was no way they could sneak through an even more liberal bull. And he would tell conservatives that if they didn't pass the moderate version of that same bill, the left-wringers were sure to ram through something totally socialist. But what if those two talents, to empathize and to manipulate, are the same, to put yourself in somebody's shoes, to really feel what they must be feeling, is a precondition to making them feel the way you want them to feel. It may be the case, then, that the most people,
Starting point is 00:32:22 empathetic people are the most capable of manipulation. You ask for an empathetic CEO, president, or husband, you're asking for a person who can access your mental state and figure out how to tweak it. Quote, he tried to teach his young assistants to read men. Wash their hands. Wash their eyes, he told them. Read eyes. No matter what a man is saying to you, it's not as important as what you can read in his eyes. And to read between the lines, more interested in men's weakness than their strengths, because it is the weakness that can be exploited. He tried to teach his assistant how to learn a man's weakness. The most important thing a man has to tell you is what he's not telling, he said. The most important thing he has to say is what he's trying not to say. For that reason, he told
Starting point is 00:33:09 him it was important to keep the man talking. The longer he talked, the more likely he was to let slip a hint of that vulnerability he was so anxious to conceal. It's why he wouldn't let a conversation end, Busby explains. If he saw the other fellow was trying not to say something, he wouldn't let it the conversation end until he got it out of him. And Lyndon Johnson himself read of the genius that couldn't be taught. But the gift that was so instinctive that a close observer of his reading habit, Robert G. Bobby Bebaker calls it a sense. He seemed to sense each man's individual price and the commodity he preferred as coin. He read with a novelist sensitivity. With an insight that it was an airing, with an ability, shocking in the depth of its penetration and perception,
Starting point is 00:33:56 to look into a man's heart and know his innermost worries and desires. Robert Caro, Master of the Senate. Johnson's ability to read and cultivate people was strongest on old, powerful, and lonely men. These patrician figures, who could influence entire chambers of Congress, had developed through decades of leadership an air of stern and cold command that warded off any attempted French. They had no wives or children to retire to on evenings or weekends, and Johnson knew this, so he would invite them to dinners and Saturday brunches at his home,
Starting point is 00:34:31 with the tender and endearing hospitality supplied by Lady Bird. And this way, Johnson became the professional son to some of the most powerful men in the country. The Modern Prince Carrow is often asked why he has dedicated his life to writing the biographies of powerful political figures. He always responds that he wants people to understand how political power works, because then democracy, what matters is what the people think and want. But if you read his books, this is definitely not the message you get about how power works. Something might happen in Richard Russell, the South's Great General of the Senate, wants it,
Starting point is 00:35:08 or if Sam Rayburn, the all-powerful Speaker of the House, wants it. And something will definitely happen if the master of the Senate Lyndon Johnson wants it. But nothing ever happens just because the people want it. In a fantasy novel, the magic system exists to provide pack-round constraints on the story. But the ultimate basis and focus of the novel are the few individual main characters who move the plot forward. The Democratic process in Keros books acts as a world-building magic system. A bill may become harder to pass if the opposition party gains a few seats. But if the main character Lyndon Johnson wants the bill to pass, then the bill will pass nonetheless.
Starting point is 00:35:46 If you asked me to identify a Strasson reading of these books, this would be it, that these volumes are not written to educate the public, for portrayed as secondary characters anyways, but rather to train the next Lyndon Johnson. This is the modern liberal equivalent of Machiavelli's The Prince. It is a guide for a person aligned with Keros politics on how to amass power in the American political system, and how to use that power to get things done the way Johnson was able to to get them done. And if you knew some of the ways in which Johnson got things done, you wouldn't treat the speculation lightly. Thanks for listening. You can find the full post and many others
Starting point is 00:36:27 at thruarkashpatol.com, and I'll see you next time. Cheers.

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