Dynamic Dialogue with Danny Matranga - 359 - Q and A: Fitness, Nutrition, and Fat-Loss

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

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Welcome in everybody to another episode of the Dynamic Dialogue podcast. As always, I'm your host, Danny Matrenga. And in today's episode, I'm going to be with your fitness, nutrition, and maximizing your productivity. Should be a very fun episode today. Be sure to listen to make sure that maybe your question was in fact featured. I'll be shouting out all the usernames of the questions that were asked. I really like to get interactive with these, so should be a fun episode. Enjoy. This episode is brought to you in part thanks to some of our amazing partners like LMNT. LMNT makes the best electrolyte product on the market. In fact, I've actually started drinking my LMNT each and every morning before I have coffee so as to optimize my circadian biology, make sure that I'm hydrated, and make sure that I'm getting ahead on my water intake

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and when you put your box together, you can get a free sample pack containing all of Element's amazing flavors like mango chili, citrus, raspberry, orange, and more. To get access to this free gift with purchase, scroll down to the show notes and check out using the special link for Dynamic Dialogue listeners. Okay, folks. So this question comes from Noreen Hensel. And the question is, how do you schedule your off days from training? I really like this question. I think it's super practical. And I think it's a good way to kind of walk you guys through. You'll get a little taste about kind of how I work with clients in terms of exercise scheduling. This is a tactic I use with clients that we work with one on one. of exercise scheduling. This is a tactic I use with clients that we work with one-on-one. This is what I recommend to anybody who uses any of our app-based coaching, anybody who approaches me about like getting into a routine. I kind of use this framework. So when I look at what days

I would like to take off from training, I typically optimize for convenience and I start instead with the days that I for sure can train. So these are always Saturday and Sunday. The way my work schedule is set up, I can always work out Saturday and Sunday. So those are two of what I call anchor days, non-negotiable days. I'm always going to have those. No matter how hectic or chaotic things get. I will tend to, unless I'm traveling or with family. And I recently did a trip where this was in fact the case. I did not work out on Saturday and Sunday. Um, but you know, I would say more often than not 85 to 90% of the time I will work out both weekend days. Uh, that means those are two days that I typically do not take off. What is interesting is the way my Monday through Friday schedule works is Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday are the greatest training day opportunities I have. I ask myself the same question during the week, Monday through Friday, which is the traditional schedule for most people when it comes to a work

schedule here in America. I'm pretty sure it's similar across the rest of the world, but most people are busiest Monday through Friday with things related to work, oftentimes academics, and Saturday and Sunday tend to be days reserved for independent and family time, not to say you're not busy. So I work out Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, and I take the Monday and Fridays off because those are the days where I'm in my studio working with clients one-on-one. A lot of people are surprised to hear that I still work with clients one-on-one because so many people who are in the fitness space or influencers or fitness podcasters,

they don't work with clients anymore. They mostly focus on content creation. And I find that a lot of the reason one that my content is relatable to people is because I actually do still train. I am a trainer who makes content, not a content creator who trains. And I also think it's quite enjoyable to work with people who are very much still on the up and come, uh, brand new or, you know, older, or, you know, they're figuring fitness out for the first time or just managing it through, uh, you know, age or, you know, very, you know, basic rudimentary, normal people like, you know, doesn't have to be training professional athletes or like bodybuilders to be fun. In fact, it's super fun to train normal people, but Mondays and Fridays are the days my sessions are loaded, loaded, loaded,

loaded. So I'm in there for nine, 10, 11 hours. And I just don't want to train, um, those days. So typically I will take Monday and Friday off because those are my most hectic, busy, chaotic days. So I asked the question, what days can you for sure train and on which days is training like something that you really are anxious about? Don't know how you're going to fit it in or it would just make the day just altogether that much more difficult. Let's not optimize for those days. week to like two or three or four or five. Very rarely do I move people to more than five workouts a week. Um, you know, I'm really just looking to disqualify two days and then find a way to make it for sure work on the two easiest days. And then anything I can get beyond that is great. So if somebody is like, Oh, I for sure can't do these two days, but I can for sure do these two days. It's like, all right, there's two, where can we find a couple more? And if we can go to three or four or five, that's awesome. But for most people, you need to take a couple of days off no matter what. And you really only

need to find time for like three to five on the high end, uh, in terms of weekly workouts. Okay. This question comes from easy, the great one. And the question is, I'm coming off a binge slash sugar high from the holidays. How do I recover slash get started in the gym? So, um, you know, I think, well, let's, let's just kind of like disregard the comment about the binging and the sugar high thing. Cause you know, it's, it's not unimportant, but the question is more around how do I recover and get started in the gym? I think those two things are ubiquitous. They're going to happen at the same time. In getting started at the gym, you will kind of initiate the quote unquote recovery from this period of overeating that you had over the holidays. You overindulged, you imbibed on too

many sweet things, you had probably excessive cal, you imbibed on too many sweet things. You had probably excessive caloric intake and with that probably gained some body fat. And perhaps with that, you probably gained quite a bit of water rate weight and you might be feeling puffy and just kind of generally out of sync. You know, you might be craving more junk than normal because of all of the exposure you had to it over the holidays, et cetera. So you're looking to kind of get away from that behavior and get more into, you know, behavior that's kind of antithetical to that, like working out. And so I would say to cut ties with that period or cut bait from that, you know, period of overeating do in fact, just go and

join a gym. That's the first thing, If you are thinking about getting started and you haven't joined a gym, I'd for sure find a gym that's close to your house or close to your work. Kind of do what I did in the previous question. Like ask yourself, which of these gyms would be harder to, you know, say no to on my shittiest day. Like if you can find the gym that like is so convenient that you can go even on your busiest day, go sign up there and just start by going like two to three times a week and training total body or training upper body, lower body alternatively, or just going and doing a little bit of cardio. Just start with something like that is quite frankly, um, the most important thing you can do, um, is go in there and get started and take action that I think is, uh that I think is going to cast a vote in the

opposite position as the over-consuming, over-eating. So you just did that for the entire holidays, which let's call that from Thanksgiving to New Year. So a month and a half, you just did that. Go to the gym two to three times a week for a month and a half and let me know how you feel. Keep it simple. Don't overcomplicate it. If you can afford a coach or a trainer, definitely get one. But the main thing is that you, you go and do it. Okay. From Liz frill.fit. Have you ever done 75 hard? I started yesterday. I have never done 75 day hard, uh, or 75 hard, sorry. Um, or 75 hard, sorry. Um, as like a consistent chunk of 75 days where I focused on my diet, my training, reading a book, doing an indoor outdoor workout. Um, you know, there's a lot of small things to 75 hard purists that, you know, you have to hit on to have officially accomplished

75 hard. What's funny to me, it's like when I was in high school and early on in college, I worked out seven days a week, many times, twice a day, always went for like long walks outside to move my body. Never deviated from my diet whatsoever, like never touched alcohol. And of course, because I was in high school and college, I was just smashing through books all the time reading. And I think it's one of those things where, um, you know, I like my training back at the back then was probably really stupid to be training every day. I was just doing it cause I was neurotic about training and like obsessed with it and kind of like bored and looking for an escape. Um, but it's funny to me that I have absolutely done every single thing on 75 hard simultaneously that I am aware of anyway.

Just being purely reckless and disciplined as a young person about my workouts and being really militant about my diet, I stumbled into that behavior in a disordered way and maintained it for way longer than 75 days. And I really did get something out of it. Like I totally got a level of discipline, connectedness with my body, you know, and desire to train forced this habit onto myself. Definitely unhealthy, definitely neurotic and obsessive, but just force this habit onto myself. And I think when I look at 75 hard, I look at it like, okay, this habit onto myself. And I think when I look at 75 hard, I look at it like, okay,

if you're trying to do this for more than 75 days, I think you're kind of an idiot because I think it's baked in like that with 75 hard, you know, it's hard. And 75 days is kind of a moonshot. It's like, it's a far, you know, it's just under 11 weeks. It's hard to go that long with anything, but that's the whole point. It's supposed to challenge you. And I think the failure rate is absurdly high because most people do not have what it takes mentally and emotionally to do 75 hard. And you know what? That's probably why the people who complete it feel something about

it because they conquered the person who they used to be, who couldn't do that. They've kind of changed into somebody with a little more discipline and they kept it going for a long amount of time. And I think that most people would benefit from that. And I say that as somebody who inadvertently and destructively engaged in this type of behavior for longer than 75 days, where I was like basically buried in self-improvement and exercise obsession and, you know, rigid dieting and, you know, massive amounts of, let's call it, uh, omission of all of the fun things in life when I was in quite literal monk mode before that was even a thing. I would say this is a non-typical but not entirely rare male behavior to just

completely disengage from anything that isn't work or school and become obsessive and militant about exercise and dieting. This is something that a lot of young men do just kind of innately. And I do think 75 hard captures a huge chunk of that. And when I say a lot of, I still mean like a vast minority of young men. Most people don't do that, but a lot of young men who are listening to this will be familiar with the meme and maybe young women of monk mode, which is just like shutting out all of the external and focusing only on that, which is going to lead to progress, um, in your life financially, uh, you know, socially and physically specifically with like your fitness. And I think 75 hard captures a lot

of that shit. And I think if you can do it, um, it's awesome, but I don't, I don't, I think if you can't do it, you shouldn't be surprised because it is really hard and you know, you're going to have to take multiple cracks at it and it's not going to change your life to do, you know, uh, it's not going to be bad idea to do like a hundred medium or I don't know. I've heard other people's take on it. Like, Oh, I'm going to do 75 medium. And it's like a good chunk of these things, but not all of them. And I think that's actually kind of cool. Um, I think that makes a lot of sense. Um, question from Nick Sharnock question is what are your best tips for consistent, healthy eating? Um, for me, I eat a lot of the same stuff every day. Uh, I eat, you know,

pretty much the same breakfast every day. I take a lot of the same snacks to work. Uh, when I'm at the studio every day, I have a lot of the same stuff, like in my freezer and my fridge from Costco, every grocery store run looks pretty similar. Like when I go to Costco, I get 75% of the same stuff. When I go to Safeway, I get 75% of the same stuff. And like the stuff that never changes is the protein, the whole grains, the vegetables, the fruits, and then the 20% that does change. It's like fun stuff. And I occasionally work it in. And like, if you look at my cart, it's like 80% of the same shit, 20% fun shit. And if you look at my, you know, breakdown cost wise, it's like 80% of my cost on groceries is on healthy shit and 20% is on fun

shit. And so I think if you just follow this rule of 80, 20 and always have a couple meals be the same, like you'll kind of over time indirectly just inject structure into your, your, you know, food decision-making, it'll just become slightly more rigid, which is kind of what you want in a way you don't want to be like restricted. You that's why you have the 20%, but you want to eliminate decision and choice because you don't want to eliminate it, but you want to reduce it. Cause sometimes having too many things to choose from can lead to going off the rails, but having mostly healthy stuff around you that you opt into more frequently. And then occasionally having some fun shit. Like I think you can keep that going a lot longer. Anyway, this question

is from Charlie Gartner 11. How did you get into fitness industry and what was the biggest influence on your growth? So, um, I got into fitness as a young adult. I'd say I was like 15 or 16 and I got into it because, um, you know, like so many trainers, you know, I was very athletic growing up. I played a lot of sports. I wanted to be better at those sports. You can enhance how you perform, uh, in the weight room, uh, with resistance training. So I got into resistance training and then I got a lot of female attention because of the way my physique changed in response to that. And as like a 16 year old, like if something makes you run faster, jump higher, look bigger and get more

female attention, that is about the best thing you could probably spend your time doing during a period of life where so many young men are like making bad decisions or like being, you know, silly or goofy or hooked on a video games or, you know, vaping or porn or whatever the fuck you could waste your youth on. Like, you know, resistance training was a very high ROI hobby for me growing up. So it just made tons of sense to spend more time doing it because it was quite literally keeping me out of trouble. Um, and so that's what got me into it. And what got me into it professionally was, you know, the love I had for it as an outlet. And then also my dad's Parkinson's disease,

seeing the kind of way my body was improving and adapting in a, in like a very rapidly as a young, you know, person, the way it so often does. And then having the contrast of my dad's Parkinson's and his declining health and mobility and realizing that like, I'm in a position because I'm not, don't have this illness where I can positively affect what my body can do. And in doing that, I'm actually reducing the likelihood of disease ever coming near me. And, you know, somebody like my dad, who's got this illness that for which there's no cure, this mobility illness, you see quite literally what it's like to lose physicality. And so like, that was a very strong contrast for me. And I realized like, Hey, I can help people reduce their risk of, you know, an illness negatively impacting their life by connecting them with this thing I love exercise. Um, and so I said, Hey, I'm going

to be a go to school for this. Cause I didn't know what I wanted to go to college for. And I'm going to pay my way through school by training. And so that's honestly what got me into training. And when I was younger and new to the industry, there's so many people that had a biggest, people who had a big influence on my growth. Um, but when you ask like, what had the biggest influence on my growth? Um, I would say it was just my natural desire for elevating my position in life. Um, you know, I'm somebody that I don't, I have not had the luxury of being able to rely on my parents for much of anything.

And so I'm kind of responsible for, I grew up kind of being responsible for what I was going to ultimately have. I don't stand to inherit much, folks. Let me put it to you that way. So kind of in a position where, hey, what you got is what you're going to get out of life is what you put into it. Nothing's going to be handed to you. Taking a break from this episode to tell you a little bit about my coaching company, Core Coaching Method. More specifically, our app-based training. We partnered with Train Heroic to bring app-based training to you using the best technology and best user interface possible.

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a career out of it isn't really a thing for most people, which is why like 90% of personal trainers drop out after a year. And very few of them ever do anything in terms of like building an online business or opening a gym or having a podcast or a YouTube or, you know, social media is much more common. But, you know, because I wanted to follow my passion in fitness, but also, you know, social media is much more common, but, um, you know, because I wanted to follow my passion in fitness, but also, you know, build a life for myself. And ultimately now that I married my family and I needed to do that from the bottom floor, um, I was always highly motivated and I worked super long hours. I worked from like four.30 in the morning till 2 in the afternoon. And then

I would go to school in the afternoon and evening and stay up late doing assignments and wake up very early and do it again and somehow fit workouts in and did that for my whole undergrad. And when you have a little bit of money in college and the only thing you're really doing is working and studying, you build up a little money, you save up. And that became very motivating for me to my first time, like feeling like I had money or agency or the ability to make the decisions that I wanted to make with money and not have to worry about things. That was a very exciting experience. And I think had I not had, you know, that, or had I not had to worry about that, I would have never put, I mean, I don't want to say I would

have never, but maybe I would have been less likely to go for it and push. And I think those things led to growth in terms of growing a following on social media, growing as a person, growing your influence in a given industry. So I think the biggest influence was just my situation. in a given industry. Um, so I think the biggest influence was just my situation. And I think a lot of times we, um, we try to take credit for our situation when, I don't know, like I, I didn't have any, I had some control over my situation, but I, you know, when there's things I change, but I also totally see the advantage that I had compared to so many other trainers who maybe they didn't have to make it work.

And if you don't have that pressure, doesn't always actually, it sometimes pressure creates growth and opportunity. And I felt that way. And a lot of people came along to help me and, you know, guide me down the path. Uh, once I committed to the path, but the situation was advantageous for the goal of growing in an industry that doesn't always have a lot of growth. And I'm really fortunate that I got that opportunity. Uh, right. Next question from let's go with, man, there's a lot of good ones. I have like 50 on the list. Ooh, okay. This one's from Logan Hoskins official. I'm a six foot two, 130 pound,

20 year old. So this is a very thin person. How can I gain muscle and weight if I run six miles a day? So at six foot two and being a young male, Logan has what we can assume with six miles a day. So at six foot two and being a young male, Logan has what we can assume with six miles a day of running and lifting. Um, or maybe he's not lifting, but he's running six miles a day. We can assume he has a very high total daily energy expenditure. Young men who are tall have a very high caloric energy expenditure on average. And typically older women who are short have the lower end of the spectrum. So like the humans who burn the most calories tend to be active young males. The humans who burn the least calories tend to be reduced or lower activity or sedentary older females. Okay. So this dude's burning through a ton of calories. And so the

answer to my question is how can you gain muscle and weight? Well, the first thing is you have to lift. So let's assume you're lifting three to four days a week, but dude, you have got to eat because to replace the amount of calories you burn at baseline, I bet you have to eat at least 32, 33, 34, 3,500 calories. You're moving a lot. The amount of food you're going to have to eat to gain size is substantial. Okay. You're removing a lot. The amount of food you're going to have to eat to gain size is substantial. You're going to have to really focus on eating more food because you are thin. 6'2", 130 is thin. At 20 years old, you're stepping into the prime of your muscle building potential. You have the hormones exactly where you'd want them.

And at this age, you likely have some responsibilities, but enough to really focus on this. So the big thing for you is going to be food, food, food. You need to eat more food. You need to eat frequently. You need to find foods that you can take with you. Okay. From underscore Erica, this question is your top three fruits you are always stocked up on and why? So I'm a huge fan of apples. I really like getting the honey crisp apples that they have at my local Costco. That is my favorite apple. I've also found that that is the best value on apples. Like the price to apple ratio is remarkable. I think at the store I'm typically paying between $2.99 and even up to $4.99 a pound for Honeycrisp apples. And at Costco for like eight bucks, I can get about 10 to 12. And I think those come out to less than $2 a pound.

They're very crispy. They have great texture. They have a great flavor profile that I just love, love, love. Definitely my favorite apple, not particularly a close either. So that's one that I'm always stocked up on because they just help me stay regular. I love the taste and I love the fiber content. Another one we always have is frozen blueberries. My wife makes this amazing smoothie with frozen blueberries, bananas, legions, vanilla whey protein, and just water and bee pollen and like a little honey. It's remarkable how good it is considering it doesn't use any milks or thickeners or

anything. It's so good. And blueberries, we keep around because they're loaded with antioxidants. Quite frankly, they're the only thing that we eat that's really blue. And we try to quote unquote, eat the rainbow, you know, more colors means more polyphenols means more micronutrient diversity. That's stuff that matters to me. So blueberries is always one that we keep around because it's easy to store frozen and we use it in this smoothie a lot. Um, and then, you know, I make a, a kind of like boring bread sometimes that we have with coffee.

That's like, it's essentially like a cup and a half of oatmeal, a cup and a half of any kind of flour. You can use almond or whole wheat or coconut or just regular flour, like a scoop of whey protein, a ton of Greek yogurt, a little bit of vanilla and a little bit of coconut oil. And trust me, I'm not like a coconut oil advocate or anything, but man, does it kind of impart a nice little flavor with the oats in this. And then I just roll that up and throw a shit ton of fruits and blueberries in it. Sometimes I throw some bananas in it and I bake it and it comes out like this Odie kind of, uh,

soft breakfast bread with like tons of protein from the Greek yogurt in the way you don't even taste that really though. You just kind of taste the blueberries and the bananas and the oats and damn, like I can use those blueberries in my diet pretty much every day just between either the smoothie or the bread, which makes it super, super easy. And then another one that I really enjoy is I like citrus fruit. Uh, I like banana. Let's see. I like grapes. I like berries. Um, when they're in season stone fruit, it's really hard to go wrong. Um, but I don't think it's three for me. I think it's honestly two, but those are the ones that I like, uh, from Brantley Pollock. We've got thoughts on the

do arms everyday concept rather than including them in a split. Don't hate it. They're small. They recover quickly. I think if you trained like six days a week and you did biceps, triceps, biceps, triceps, biceps, triceps, you'd probably get some growth out of that. Five days a week, you do the same thing. You know, if you wanted to train like four days a week and do a little buys and tries

on everything, you could totally do that. I think they'll recover well. little buys and tries on everything, you could totally do that. I think they'll recover well. Um, I, I have found for most people, they tend to be a muscle group that recovers fairly quickly. Um, not to, which isn't to say like if you took them to failure on every session, you wouldn't be in some ways kind of overdoing it. Um, you know, given the fact that you're training them every day, I think if you trained any muscle to failure every single day, you're going to probably eventually start missing out on growth and probably maybe even start incurring some injury. And one thing that would

just suck is if you like, couldn't train your chest, your shoulders and your back, cause you're like trashing your biceps tendons with everyday arms. But I think if you keep the volume chill, uh, it should be great and you can give it a try and let me know how it works. I I'm of the opinion that it might work, um, fairly well, uh, from Conlino. We have how often, if ever, do you take a break from pre-workout? Not very often because I typically take the stimulant free pre-workout. And if I wanted to like step away from supplementing with pre-workout, uh, I find I'm typically looking to reduce my caffeine intake, not necessarily the, you know, ingredients that help with my training. So I don't take a break very often,

but like most times when I travel, I don't bring pre-workout with me. And like my wife and myself and, uh, one of my very close friends were planning a trip to Japan here. We leave for Japan in October of this year. And, you know, I'm, I'm planning on just traveling very light with like a carry on and taking two suitcases, um, to bring back with me and just buy some clothes out there as needed. Um, you know, just like pack mostly muted walking stuff, uh, may catch a couple workouts at the hotels, but like, I'm not bringing protein powder, creatine, uh, or, well, I might bring creatine, but I'm in vitamins and stuff, but I'm not bringing protein powder and I'm not bringing

pre-workout. Um, so sometimes situations like that, I like choose or opt into taking a break and that works pretty well. Um, from fancy Nancy 93 read somewhere that water intake while taking creatine should be your body weight in ounces. Do I agree? Uh, don't hate it. I think that's a lot of water for most people, but I don't hate it. And I think taking an extra water with, with creatine supplementation, uh, is a good idea. So, you know, shoot for that. If you come up a little short, should still be fine. Um, the main thing is that you're getting enough water with the supplementation. Uh, but I don't know if it needs to be that high.

Uh, should, uh, this is from Western SQ. Should I limit fat if goals to build muscle and lose five pounds? You want to limit calories, not fat to lose weight. Um, but if you want to reduce calories from fat, just know that they have more than twice as many calories per gram as carbs. So taking out 10 grams of fat is basically the same as taking out like 18 grams of carbs. So fat does tend to go a little bit further because it's calorically dense. So when you reduce fat intake, you're going to see your calories come down quicker. So it's not a bad idea to avoid that or to avoid fat. This question comes from Juge. And the question is, I know you love Legion. What are your thoughts on fat burn supplements? Do they help? So I think Legion's fat burn

supplement is in truth in appetite suppressant with some stimulants, which is what all fat burners really are. Fat burner is just kind of the colloquial name that the industry has for these compounds that suppress appetite and might increase movement, uh, or metabolic rate through like the inclusion of things like, you know, him buying or caffeine. Um, so I think when you look at them as like diet assistance or like appetite helpers in a way, you'll get more from them than if you look at them as like true fat burners. Cause I don't think any of them are actively enhancing the amount of fat you metabolize. There are so many other Legion products that I think would help with fat loss or that I'd rather deploy first. Um, but I don't

think it's a bad product. I just think it's more than likely going to help with fat loss or that I'd rather deploy first. But I don't think it's a bad product. I just think it's more than likely going to help with appetite suppression and energy enhancement when you're in a deficit, which could indirectly help with burning fat. Okay, guys, I hope you found this episode helpful and that we deep dived into some of those questions. I look forward to kind of catching up with you as the pods drop remember every week Tuesday and Thursday morning you're getting a pod if you enjoy this one please share it tag me leave me a five-star rating and review so we can continue to grow the pod and I'll catch you on the next one