Dynamic Dialogue with Danny Matranga - 404: Gym Equipment Draft! Sports Injuries, Super-Bowl Predictions, South Park + MORE!

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome in everybody to another episode of the Dynamic Dialogue Podcast. As always, I'm your host Danny Matranga. Today I'm joined by my good buddies Matt and Holden, and we're going to discuss the normal health fitness wellness stuff, as well as some sports adjacent stuff, but also lean into culture and some of the goings on in politics and just more of what you would typically see in a multi-person group podcast. Having over 400 episodes where I'm the primary host has been great, but it's way more enjoyable to capture authentic real dialogue with people I talk to all the time about wellness, about training, about nutrition, and about all of the other things
Starting point is 00:00:45 you're probably looking for on your daily podcasts. So I'm hoping you guys enjoy this episode. This can be the direction I take the podcast moving forward. And in the very short term, you'll see probably a name change as well as a kind of long-term stylistic change to bring you more information,
Starting point is 00:01:03 more evidence-based fitness and wellness tips, and just more stuff to add value to your life. So I hope you guys enjoy this episode should be much more engaging and entertaining than what you're used to. All right, guys, so welcome in. Like I told you in the intro, I'm joined today by two additional guests, Matt and Holden. These guys are strength and conditioning coaches with me at my studio. So we're always engaged in this kind of discourse and dialogue.
Starting point is 00:01:27 We have a lot of things in common and I think it'll just make for richer conversation. But with everything that's kind of been going on in health and wellness, I've noticed a big trend kind of talking about injury prevention. There's been a ton of big time recent athletes who've gone down to seemingly like a thread of consistent injuries, whether it's like elbows, knees or Achilles, it's happening all the time. We kind of shoot it around and just kind of talking a little bit about injury prevention, some recent injuries and all that. And we actually all listened to an episode of the, I forget the name of the podcast,
Starting point is 00:02:02 but it's Derek Thompson's podcast on injury prevention. What did you guys kind of think about some of what was put forth as to why we're seeing more injuries at the professional level of sports? Yeah, I thought it was pretty good. I think that two things can be true at once. And what they were highlighting was, is it just the exceptionalism of athletes now
Starting point is 00:02:23 where they're just bigger, faster, stronger and that's putting more stress on the tissue and causing more injuries? Or is it on the flip side, they're not training correctly? Which I don't, I wanna say that that's probably not as likely. I think that overuse injuries are really common. I think that when you're playing a sport professionally
Starting point is 00:02:45 and you have adrenaline and there's a lot of force going through the joints and the tissues and I think injuries just kind of, they happen. And we're trying to do some things to prevent them. And I think it goes back to the athlete being prepared and then the athlete being transparent on like how they're feeling on a day to day. Cause it's really easy to not tell your coaches people around you that hey I'm not
Starting point is 00:03:08 really feeling it today I need to back off yeah and that kind of can just trickle it down into like okay now these guys are like incentivized to do this like we saw this with Halliburton playing in game seven of the finals like he probably would not have played oh you got you gotta play that game. In a regular season game with the injury he had being a significant calf strain. Assuming it's a meaningless game, I don't think he's gonna play. I think in game seven of the finals he's gonna play
Starting point is 00:03:36 and I think that's part of why he tore his Achilles. I do think to your point about injury prevention and like guessing, I think being able to guess is good, but I've noticed a ton of people are now experts on injury prevention. And I find it, just as a strength coach, really frustrating that I can almost know, like the night, Holan and I were together,
Starting point is 00:03:58 the night that Tyrese Halliburton tours the Achilles, they showed the clip in slow motion. I was very apparent. Our group chat slow motion. It was like very apparent. Our group chat went off. It was like everybody in the group chat knows mechanisms of injury. It was like, dude, that's an Achilles. I started thinking like who in the fitness space
Starting point is 00:04:14 is gonna jump on the internet and say, well, this is how you prevent these injuries. And like for sure you see it the very next day. Tons of people being like like this was totally preventable. And I honestly think it's important taste and kind of lame. Yeah, I think to kind of piggyback off both your guys's points and provide like maybe a third piece of the equation like overuse, you know, I think athletes at like very young
Starting point is 00:04:39 ages now are just conditioned to play season after season. Even in high school, it goes immediately into travel ball. And when I used to play it, it wasn't really like that. It was, you could play summer ball if you like wanted to and were up for it, but it wasn't like an expectation to more or less like get ahead of your, of your sort of sport. But yeah, I don't really think you can actively train
Starting point is 00:05:03 in the weight room the same way with the same stimulus that you'll see on the court or the field or anything like that, right? Yeah, no, you're not, like you can't do something in the weight room to stop your ACL from tearing in a game of like professional football. I think the forces are way too dynamic. Like there's nothing in the gym that simulates in game dynamism and all of the stuff
Starting point is 00:05:24 that they're exposed to. So injuries could be random no matter like how fit and strong you are and I think that the coaches and trainers that jump in on this stuff, like Joel Seidman for example, constantly being the first one whenever any professional athlete gets hurt, like we played fantasy football, bro. We know the guys you fucking train.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I saw you smacking Chris Carson in the fucking dome with a yoga ball that's severely damaged by Chris Carson whose NFL career is over because of a considerable number of like neck problems like maybe you shouldn't be fucking jamming in the neck with a yoga ball while he's training like I just think it's really lame because you can almost predict who's gonna jump in and be like, my methods would have prevented this injury from happening. It's like the fuck off one and two,
Starting point is 00:06:13 again, completely healthy athletes get hurt non-contact all the time, like in the most random shitty ways. And picking that moment as like a time to jump in and try to make your money is kind of lame. And I do think like the real conversation to be had by like actual coaches is one wire kit. Why are we seeing these injuries at the high level for the people who listen to this? How do I avoid injuries in my own training for the people who have kids and youth sports?
Starting point is 00:06:40 How do I set my kid up to be successful in sports and not get these injuries? Because news flash your kids probably not going to go pro. That's just the fucking math of the reality. Like you're not. No matter how good you think you are at your youth level sport, like I feel like there is a push to get these kids, like you said, play more sports, play all year.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Don't like specialize early. And I'm kind of anti-specialization. I have a nine month old holding S2 kids that are younger. I'm not going to focus on specialization early. I'm going to try to do as many sports with my son as possible that he wants to do rather than push him to do the ones I want him to do because I think I'd be robbing his athletic development if I didn't let him get the index fund,
Starting point is 00:07:29 if you will, of early motor pattern development, that is do all the sports. Right, like you already have multi-sport athletes, three and a half. Yeah. He's playing golf, he's playing baseball. I took him to the golf range the other day for the first time, it was hilarious watching him
Starting point is 00:07:44 just hit the ground like 20 times in a row. Nice. Actually not get that frustrated. I was proud of the guy and then he's just hitting hit some seeds with his little baby driver. I got him. It's the best thing ever. It gives me an excuse to go play more golf.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah. And I told him the other day because he was throwing the biggest fit when we left and I'm like, dude, the worst thing about golf is being finished with golf. Oh, right. It might take three to five hours, but when you're done, you're like, damn, the worst thing about golf is being finished with golf. Right, it might take three to five hours, but when you're done, you're like, damn, I wanna do that again. And you're gonna run into that buddy.
Starting point is 00:08:11 But I wanna go back to Hellebren's injury and people on the internet who say he should have trained like this or that. You don't know how he trains. You don't see what he does day to day. You know, multiple hundred million dollars. I saw him on a vo-suit ball doing a probably suboptimal exercise.
Starting point is 00:08:25 One time. That was probably for one time. Social media. The guy who trains him for the Pacers professionally is probably better at his job than you are. Guaranteed. Just saying. Guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:08:35 They have a team, a team, not just a trainer. There's therapists. All the resources. Everybody's resources are imaginable. They do like 10 different things all the time. They're doing everything they can to prevent it with the latest science and the latest methods. And again, it's usually multifactorial injuries are not just like, oh, he trained like shit.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Maybe he's been like sleeping like shit. Maybe he's played more than he's ever played in his life. You know, literally all of that is true of Halliburton's injuries. There is no way he played more basketball in a year than he did in the year They went to game seven of the finals. That's a lot It's literally the maximum number of basketball you could possibly the maximum number of names You could have possibly played to get there in the longest season in sports like the NBA season is fucking Insanely long like they literally need to do something about the playoffs. Yeah, yeah playoffs are busted, right?
Starting point is 00:09:23 I used to be a little kind of pissy about the whole load management thing. People pay money to go watch these players, but you realize the drag that the season has, being as physical as it is. And it's a little bit more understandable to me now. And obviously, you see these devastating Achilles injuries and they're not just missing the rest of this season,
Starting point is 00:09:42 but they're going next year too. Yeah, Halliburton won't play at all next year because he got hurt at the worst possible time. And I think if they didn't go into finals, Halliburton's Achilles would be just fine, obviously. But that calf injury, like you said before, Danny, it led to, I have to think it maybe led to the Achilles strain or the Achilles, it wasn't a strain. It was complete rupture.
Starting point is 00:10:03 That is a very reasonable thing to see. To watch game seven of the NBA finals as a strength and conditioning coach and go, okay, Tyrese Halliburton has a calf injury going into the fucking final game of an extremely long season. He's probably fatigued, he's probably stressed, it's game seven of the NBA finals.
Starting point is 00:10:21 The likelihood that the pre-existing injury led to the Achilles strain is absolutely the most likely highest possible outcome. the NBA Finals. It wouldn't the tissue failed because the muscle literal muscle attaches in kill ease is very much not functioning Well, like it's just I always I always see that and think it's corny But I do think Halliburton his injury the Achilles is becoming increasingly common Happened all throughout the NBA playoffs Matt was telling me who was it out who Jason Tatum Damian Lillard I mean two guys those dudes are all stars and like, yes, you love the route for those type of guys, but to see them out another year, we top 25 players all going out in the playoffs, probably all missing 20, 25
Starting point is 00:11:15 all or 26. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think any of them will play next year. That's bad for the league. Speaking of bad for leagues, these guys both are baseball guys So they'll be able to take this conversation a lot further than I will But I am I'm kind of of the belief that the like hardest sport on on any ligament is like baseball's pitching taking a toll on the elbow ligaments like it seems like half of the best pitchers and all of baseball are Missing time because of these elbow injuries and it's happening It seems like half of the best pitchers
Starting point is 00:11:45 in all of baseball are missing time because of these elbow injuries and it's happening constantly. If you listen to the Source podcast for this discussion, that was the most talked about injury, injuries that these pitchers face. These are happening all the time in baseball. The average miles per hour that these guys throw is higher. They're throwing more. From 88 to 89 miles per hour, just a few years or maybe 10 years ago, to now the average fastball's 96 miles.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah, okay, so that's insane. That is insane. That's insane. I would, okay, good question. Has any component of any sport advanced the way pitching velocity has in the last 10 years, meaning the average fastball goes from 89 to 96 in a 10 year time frame, making hitting the fucking ball substantially more difficult.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And league wide batting averages are down across the board, whether that's because of play to pro. They literally had to juice the balls. So more offense could be. So like the pitchers are getting better. Just before we pivot into like elbow injuries, I think this is an interesting one. Has any other element of any other pro sport
Starting point is 00:12:50 advanced that much in the last 10 years? I actually have a few like kind of interesting ones that I can think of. Honestly, I don't think to the same degree. Like I think about 40 times maybe. Okay, yeah. Just the overall speed of the game. Team speed.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Team speed. I feel like basketball maybe with like leaping ability. I feel like there's monster posters you see like day in and day out in these NBA games. So not, I get what you guys are saying. I'm sure you're thinking pure physicality. I'm thinking like the pure miles per hour outcome increases in velocity
Starting point is 00:13:24 has made hitting markedly harder. And like the, like I feel like in basketball, so many more guys can hit the three. Like the number of dudes who pitch 96 now is very high. And now the number of dudes who shoot 38% or higher from three is really high. And that is a game changer. Like in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:13:42 It's worth more than two. Yeah, but in the NFL, if you get five yards to carry, you are an elite running back. Right. And that has not changed for shit my whole life. Like, what is the physical metric in the NFL that has led to like a markedly better on field performance? I just think kickers, as lame as that sounds like everybody can launch one for like 60 yards. Yeah, honestly. So it's kickers lifting kickers as lame as that sounds like everybody can launch one from like 60 yards now, not just 50. So it's kickers lifting. Kickers starting to lift. And the lowest kickers are fucking jacked.
Starting point is 00:14:11 The Rams kickers squat 700 fucking pounds. Which is honestly okay. This says a lot about how people train. If you are trying to get strong and a guy whose professional job is punting, we can just assume he's still an elite athlete, but he's able to squat 750 pounds, which is a high level powerlifter squat, and be a professional punter, probably because he does the perfect balance of training between the two.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And I'm just thinking about how many people would kill for a 750 pound squat, but they have just a dog shit program. And I do think just like kickers and punters being more jacked is like, that is very present, but nothing in sports has changed like pitching in the last 10 years. Not at all. I could go to golf on this.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Fuck golf. Now here's the thing too, the equipment is so much better than it used to be. And that probably plays a role in these, how far guys can hit the thing too, the equipment is so much better than it used to be. And that probably plays a role in these, how far guys can hit the ball now, but everyone hits it over 300 yards. And golf fitness is huge now. And I keep trying to tell people like,
Starting point is 00:15:15 yes, flexibility is important, lift. Mobility is important, lift. Muscle is important, lift. And player sport, more, right? So I love to see the trend toward more strength training and guys I mean look how big like Tiger Woods is yeah, you might be on steroids For sure Tiger Woods replacement
Starting point is 00:15:40 And Yes, they got Rory McIlroy, you know, he's 20 grams of creating a big boy. Absolute fucking unit unit. I'm well, I watched him deadlift deadlift in like 500 pounds, which is so cool to say butter. And I don't know if these guys are like doing this. Like this is seasonal stuff like golf.
Starting point is 00:15:57 They don't lift as much as the average lifter lifts, but they're still hitting 500 pound deadlift. They are. They're just more efficient with the way they train. Like hours in the gym doesn't equate to like results. Yeah, less is more for sure for a pro athlete. Yeah. And if you're hitting 500 balls a day, you probably need to pick and choose when you want to do these really high strenuous lifts that take a lot out of you
Starting point is 00:16:20 for like your recovery and stuff. I totally get that. They can stiffen you up a little bit, but these guys are optimal at recovering. And they, again, probably the best strength and conditioning coaches and the best team around them to give them the best result for their performance so the gym isn't interfering with that.
Starting point is 00:16:37 They also all probably sleep very well. I do feel like golf is a sport where these guys take their sleep really seriously. I know that's historically pretty true for tennis athletes like Roger Fedever notoriously sleeps like 11 to 12 hours a day. And so I do think like golf being such a focus driven sport, like the advancements in sleep and recovery technology paired with all of these guys lifting and being way bigger. I would bet you the average PGA Tour drive is increased substantially like miles per hour. That's probably the actual next one. I don't think it's basketball three-point shooting.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I don't think it's football like kicker specialist. I really do think it's it's golfers. It's just becoming fucking jacked. Because there were like a few guys who were naturally gifted, like clearly fast twitch dominant guys who could slap the shit out of the ball. But now more of them live, probably way more of them have an average drive
Starting point is 00:17:36 of over 300 yards. And I bet you that's two or wide. And it is equipment, it is training, it is recovery. It's all of it. Okay, I want to talk about something really quick before we pivot out of sports. I, it's all of it. Okay, I want to talk about something really quick before we pivot out of sports. I think it's kind of fun. And it's this Paul Skeen's rookie card that Matt pulled.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I'm going to tell you guys like a funny ass fucking story about this baseball card, because it could have been my fucking baseball card. The other day I was fucking around on Facebook Marketplace and I saw like a $40 box of cards for sale and I was like, Oh shit, that's my boy. He's selling this box. I'm like, I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I wanted to jokingly just ping him on Facebook Marketplace and be like, you can send one of those like cliche responses. Like, is this item still available? And be like, yeah, bye bro. Fuck it. Um, and then, uh, I just ignored it and went to bed. And the next day I go to work and I hear Matt talking about how he decided to open this box of cards
Starting point is 00:18:32 he was going to sell. And inside this box of cards, so for people who don't open cards, 99% of those fucking packs are a complete waste of money. Like if you're a parent and your kid is up your ass about buying Pokemon cards or anything like that, and you're like, dude, I'm spending fricking hundreds of dollars on these cards, try this.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Ask your kid, be like, hey, do you want one of the cards in that set or you just want to open the packs? And if they're like, no, I want this card, just go buy in that card on eBay, it'll save so much money. Opening the packs is like very difficult. Like I would have cracked, man, it's crack. It's definitely a drug. It feels like scratchers.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Okay, so inside the likelihood of there being something good in the fucking box of cards was very much lower than 1%. And of course there is tail events do happen. And there is no pitcher in baseball right now more dominant than this guy, Paul Skeens on the Pirates. This is like, he's had the best start to his career of any pitcher in the basically in modern baseball history. And of course, inside that $40 box in one pack is a,
Starting point is 00:19:42 I don't know, thousand fifteen thousand dollars. Show them this card. Paul skeins autograph rookie card signed with the fucking Jersey patch like this is a big Kahuna find like there's just like this is you know, like if you went and you got a scratcher and you literally won like twenty grand, you'd be like, holy fucking shit I can't believe I won 20 like the odds are probably the same only 10 of these cards exist this is the hottest guy in all of baseball and I
Starting point is 00:20:14 Think Matt should sell the fuck out of this card as quickly as possible because of everything we talked about And I don't know how you guys feel about it. Well, I mean I did talked about and I don't know how you guys feel about it. Well, I mean, I'm kind of like, I go back and forth like every day, so I'll like, I'll watch a bunch of YouTube videos about like people opening the exact product that I did. And I've probably logged a few hours at this point of people watching these bags.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And no one's opened one. I have seen one Paul Skeen's card, but it was an auto. It didn't have the Jersey patch on it. And it was not out of 10, like 10, meaning they only made 10 of these. It was, I think out of like 25. It was just a completely different card. So I'm still trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:20:54 like what I actually have on my hands here. But I know, I feel this to be true. And I, Paul Skeen's, I believe is a generational talent. As you said, like best start to the career, definitely the best ERA I've seen through the first 44 career starts, saw that the other day. And I just think he can really keep this going.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And even injury-based, young enough, could easily bounce back. The repair for Tommy John, which is obviously the kryptonite of any pitcher, isn't what it used to be. But point being is, I think, to hold in your point, I think I'm gonna at least hold on to this. Okay, shit, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:29 If I had the card, I would sell it. A little while. Okay, there's a way to wait. Personally. Whoa, whoa, whoa, this is great. I just think this thing appreciates in value. Then he says sell it. You say I'm withholding, I wanna keep it.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I'm selling all the way. I need to hear the fucking bullish case for keeping the card. All right, so. Because I will give you the fucking bullish case for keeping the card. All right. So I will give you the case for selling. Okay. Here's the case. Okay. For keeping the card. That card is going to 10 X, 100 X in 10 years.
Starting point is 00:21:56 20 X, 50 billion X. I mean, here's why, here's why. Here's what I think. I think that if Paul Skeens terraces UCL, Paul Skeens will pitch the following year and come back potentially even better. Look at Tony. Oh, the grom unicorn though. He totally is. He threw his back to more than one unicorn after his UCL surgery. I don't know the population of And a lot of people are getting these surgeries done and it's just like their elbow is just Botox. Do it. Resilient as hell.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Do preventative UCL. Yeah. And it's like literally, they literally triple reinforce it now. Okay. So I get it. He's hella good. He's generational. He's mowing guys down.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Historical start. And if something bad happened. I think he can work through it. He'll get the better elbow ligament and be even better. Who else has bounced back from that injury? And then equally good. And DeGrom this year is pretty solid actually coming off the UCL.
Starting point is 00:22:50 He's had a number of like elbow things. Okay. So the second UCL? DeGrom? I'm not sure. I think he's had multiple UCL searches. I'm just betting on the youth being on Skeens' side of things and like the dude is just coming
Starting point is 00:23:02 and been like dominant like since the day he like took them out and through his first pitch. I'm denying. He started though each of the last two All-Star games. I don't think those are publicity stunts. I think he actually likes the best picture in the national league and to the point of the card like the card that I now have acquired. This is his like rookie Jersey. It's like it's like a rookie year.
Starting point is 00:23:21 So I think that it is worth a numbered out of 10 and it's signed autograph and they're all certified of memorabilia. This is worth triple what the same card would be for the second year of his career. Like if this was a year two card, not nearly as valuable as a rookie card. This is a hot collectible, which is exactly why I feel like you should sell it. I'm going to say a few things. Paul Skeens is hella good,
Starting point is 00:23:52 he's the best pitcher in baseball. If I were a Pittsburgh Pirates fan, you would have to fucking kill me to get that card for me. If I were in on Paul Skeens, like I'm in on Otani, you would have to fucking kill me to get that card for me. Of course. But, because I know in general, you like all of baseball, all of football, even Pokemon cards.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And I just got a 10, maybe 15 thousand dollar slapper in a pack that just pure luck, pure luck. I think what I would do, knowing that one hitters historically, like think about all time, the mythology of baseball, hitters are the people we have the most reverence for, the hitter cards are definitely worth the most. And modern hitter cards are worth way more than modern pitcher cards.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And the only reason I know this is because when I was buying Otani rookie cards, the end of 2023 when he won this MVP, but the angels were dog shit, his rookie hitting cards, any rookie card of his where he was in a hitting stance was worth way more than the few where he was pitching. I was like, that's kind of dumb. Like the whole thing that makes a Tony special is that he is a guy who hits 50 on runs a year, but pitches Either way, there's just less desire for cards where the actual photos of the guy pitching the pitching injury
Starting point is 00:25:13 We like we talked about probably more likely to get hurt Pitching in the major leagues than any other sport With like okay, you're more likely to have a career-ending non-contact injury as a pitcher I think than any other sport which sucks right and I think right now you could get so much fucking money for that card I would sell it enjoy the shit out of putting it in auction and take whatever you got and buy whatever players you like you could probably buy a few amazing cards to hold in your collection for a while and turn like one Paul skeins you like, you could probably buy a few amazing cards to hold in your collection for a while,
Starting point is 00:25:45 and turn like one Paul Skeens, you get it to the right person who's gonna love it, you could turn that into like six, four to six really spectacular like $1000 plus cards for guys you totally love that might hold value longer because maybe they are hitter cards. That's very, very possible. Maybe you're like, dude I fucking, I am all in on Cam Ward like I'm in on Cam Ward and or like whoever it is, NFL rookie, but you're just like, I'm in on them.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Or Jaden Daniels, like I'm turning this into Jaden Daniels. Like it's a weird situation where you can trade something that's worth a ton overall for something that's like special to you or the Pokemon cards, whatever. I just think you like because of the volatility of pitching and because of how something that's like special to you or the Pokemon cards, whatever. I just think you like, because of the volatility of pitching and because of how much that's worth, I would sell it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's fair. I think we're going just real quick on the Otani thing.
Starting point is 00:26:34 He's the only guy that has pitching and hitting cards. So it's like, I think that's unique to his specific card, obviously skeins only pitches. So I think that maybe it'll hold its value, maybe it won't, but I would say here's my lean that I'm probably gonna do and I'm gonna play it out at least the rest of the season into like when they do the season long awards, skeins
Starting point is 00:26:55 and the heat of things for the Cy Young, it would be his first, I think, accolade could add value to the card in all the YouTube videos and like research I've done and thoughts I've had about it. This product from Tops was extremely limited. Like they didn't advertise it at all. They just launched it. And I don't see them going back to it obviously.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And this is like the card of his rookie year. So it's like, you know, and the exclusivity, I think in the card market, like that holds a crap ton of value and like schemes being popular for the time being, maybe it's worth as much as it is right now and that'll be the most it's worth or maybe it appreciates over time. So it shouldn't be appreciated.
Starting point is 00:27:35 He will if he takes his ACL. His ACL for sure. Oh yeah, ACL. What the fuck are you doing? He'll come back in like 14 months, throwing 100 again. I know, I I know you know that's my kind of I was back. I think even fast. I have a backyard to landscape I Would sell the card now?
Starting point is 00:27:55 Matt have you seen the cost of drainage wrong? Concrete is crazy bro stamp on artificial Cement in the backyard it it costs about 20 grand. So I'm actually gonna try to get that scheme card. It seems like he's gonna steal this card from me. Yeah, so we'll get to cost of living in a second. Just before we finish out sports and culture, one type of exercise that you guys think,
Starting point is 00:28:22 again, we're not gonna sit here and cap about how you can prevent injuries, but historically with like literally 30 years of training people put together, what is a type of exercise or a single exercise that you think makes the body more resilient holding? You can go ahead and start. If we're going to pick one exercise, I want to pick a compound exercise that works pretty much your whole body at once. And I think like a back squat, a front squat, a safety bar squat, any squatting motion like that. It's just like the hardest exercise ever. And it challenges your core a ton.
Starting point is 00:28:57 So I used to think about the core too as just being like, it's just gonna keep you stable. Like you're gonna move weights and you're just gonna... And this is... Rigidity. Yes, stable. Like you're gonna move weights and you're just gonna, and this is- Rigidity. Yes, exactly. Thank you, Matt. And that, this exercise is really good for that alone. Like your upper body has to work so hard.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Like your low back, your mid back, your upper back. They're all doing so much work to just stabilize your torso. And then of course, like the main part of the exercise- Massively strong legs includes. Massively strong legs. Andutes. Massively strong legs. And like you're basically hitting every muscle in your lower body.
Starting point is 00:29:30 You might not be getting a ton of like hamstring out of it, but there's another exercise for that, which you guys will mention later. Mine's actually super strong. Quads, glutes, adductors. The front rack position is really hard to get good at. Yeah, if you're doing a front squat, that's gonna kill upper back too.
Starting point is 00:29:44 There's a certain type of client for this. When I'm talking about who I train and the demographic of people I train, a lot of my clients struggle with that front rack position. They struggle with a barbell on their back. And the safety bar is like 70 pounds and it's enormous. So I like to go to some split squats and stuff too, squatting motions, I think they're great.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah, I'm with you there. Matt, what do you have as far as like a type of exercise that you think just generally makes more resilient humans? Yeah, I'm withholding on the compound movement and I'm also gonna go with the lower body. I just think lunging. You know, it's unilateral in nature. It can help work on any sort of muscle imbalances
Starting point is 00:30:25 that may be present. You can work with all kinds of different ranges of motion, different ways to load it that also involves the upper body just like holding the same with the squats. And just from a promotion of like a healthy aging, like long-term, it's as bipedal human beings. We put one foot in front of the other. That's kind of what a lunge does as well. Obviously it's as bipedal human beings, you know, we put one foot in front of the other. That's kind of what a lunge does as well. Obviously it's a lot more crazier.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Like, can you imagine people like walking down the street, just like lunging like that? Most people can't. Right, right. Right. So I just think being able to like obviously navigate things like a curb and steps and ramps and things of that nature as the aging process goes on. So if you're somebody who struggles with that, I think doing some lunging with whatever modification is needed can really benefit you going forward. I'm kind of with both of you. I'm also going compound.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I'm also going lower body. I went RDL. It kind of just fills in the gaps. Just like you guys. Glute city. You guys probably don't. Glute city. You probably don't even need to do an RDL
Starting point is 00:31:23 if you do good lunges and squats., you'd be missing out on hamstrings. You do like a hamstring curl. But the reason I like the RDL is because it's going to get you a ton of glutes, a ton of hamstrings. And also you have to really learn again, going back to that core rigidity, how to kind of lock it all down and connect the glutes and the hamstrings as they extend the hip to the upper body that holds the weights and just be still and stable and lock it down. So to be more resilient, you have to train, injuries do happen. You shouldn't stress about them. We like squats, we like lunges, we like RDLs. And before we move into our second segment, which would be culture, obviously going to have to talk about the new South Park. Let's take a listener question. This one's from Matsey underscore two one five.
Starting point is 00:32:06 He wants to know way too early. Super bowl predictions. I'm gonna start this off. I'm gonna go major Homer pick in the fucking Bukunakua 17, he'll call this the D Adams. I think the Rams make it out of the NFC this year. Only because nobody in the NFC really gave the Eagles any problems.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I do think the commanders will be better. I think the Niners will be better. I think the Cowboys will be better. I think the Giants will be better. I think Arizona will be better. I still think the best coach quarterback combination in the NFC is McVeigh and Stafford. I think that Cup completely deteriorated down this stretch
Starting point is 00:32:45 and they were able to still succeed with really only one functioning pass catcher in Pukka Nakula. You add to that a super versatile, all over the field type of player in Devonte Adams. You can line up anywhere you want on offense. And nobody's really talking about it, but I thought they'd really address the D line.
Starting point is 00:33:04 They went out and they got Pooniford to hopefully avoid getting gashed by Saquon who had like 10, 50 yard fucking touchdowns against the Rams. This is stupid. When they show his MVP highlights, like literally half of them are just like the Rams chasing him. Yeah, it's stupid. And then the backwards hurdle. But I do think that is why the Eagles will not make it
Starting point is 00:33:26 out of the NFC. They're the most talented roster in football, but 400 touches for the guy that makes the offense run takes a toll. I wonder if they have a Super Bowl hangover and I just have this feeling like the Rams are really gonna go all in this year. I think that they may trade their first round pick next year
Starting point is 00:33:45 for a move up quarterback. If they don't, they might trade for a really special piece down the stretch. Out of the AFC, I want the Ravens to get there this year. I think they have the ability. I still believe Lamar Jackson is the best quarterback in the NFL. Obviously, Mahomes is the most winningest.
Starting point is 00:34:03 He's the guy you want when you need to win one game. But I think Lamar is a game breaker and defensively, I think the Ravens will be even better this year. They again, just stat put drafted incredibly well. I love who they're adding on the back end. And at some point they're going to either break through or blow it up. And I think this is the year Rams Ravens
Starting point is 00:34:24 would be fucking amazing. Harbaugh, Bruce McVeigh, the fireworks, amazing offenses, amazing defenses. I would like to see that. That's my early Super Bowl prediction. Right, I too would like to see the Ravens, but then I was thinking about it and I was like, man, they don't have reliable pass catchers.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I hate their pass catchers, bro. So I'm like, man. So hate their pass catchers, bro. I hate to get us out there. For me, this is obviously like a stale pick because they've been in it. They just got D-Hop, bro. They just got D-Hop. How many times have I heard that?
Starting point is 00:34:54 D-Hop, Teddy? Anytime Teddy in the Super Bowl? That won me about 400 bucks. We are on our sixth consecutive season of well, hey, they just got D-Hop. It's like. Yeah. I just think at some point, like age catches up, like dude has hands, but you know, can't separate.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And I just think the lack of pass catching that Baltimore unfortunately still possesses is kind of a kryptonite enough. Like once you get to the playoffs, when it's like winter go home. So my stale pick out of the AFC is still the Chiefs. I just think between the defense, the coaching, honestly I hate it too, but I tried my hardest
Starting point is 00:35:29 to think about people that could give them a run for their money and the Ravens was like the only one. Into the NFC, like man, my Niners are definitely primed for a bounce back year just because of the easiest schedule in the league, but still some pieces I don't think enough to get to the big dance. I hate to say the fucking Rams, so I won't. So I'm going back with Philly. I know that's even more stale, a repeat of last year, but they have the roster construction and they know how it's done
Starting point is 00:35:59 now. Incredibly well built. Holden what you got. Eagles, Bills. Fuck. Obviously, Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the league. You love Josh Allen. He's just a unit, man. That guy's a unit. He runs through linemen. Yeah, well he runs through linebackers too. And linebackers. You gotta run through your linemen to get to the...
Starting point is 00:36:17 And if you're a corner, he will murder you. He's killing you with his ankles. Yeah, I mean, dude, the... Your season's over. The play he made in the snow against San Francisco. Bro. You can't help but admire that. You're like, holy crap.
Starting point is 00:36:29 That was insane. I would say, like, you need more than just Lamar mobility to pull that off. You have to be a fucking great shit. A dog. Yeah, you might have to be somebody like, yeah, Josh Allen, and then also Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts is the most underrated quarterback
Starting point is 00:36:46 He is fucking guy He's good speaking of good squats. Okay, I bet this guy front squat 600 pounds Well, he back squats like 800 so like the transfers to that safe one together is like 1500 pounds. Yeah. Yes Yeah, they have they have the all squat back to you I've been including the online which could probably put a massive numbers. They have they have the all squad that's actually not including the online, which could probably put a massive numbers. They have this but squatting. Oh, and I think, you know, in the AFC, I think the Chiefs are fucked this year because the Raiders are obviously going to kick them out of having a chance to either go forward in the playoffs or get to the playoffs. Okay, so usually around weeks.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Spoiler spoiler Raiders play the Chiefs. So his Raiders super, you know, Smith's week, Ashton Gentry, Jacobi Myers. It's just you this year. OK, so I was surprised to see you this year. Brock Bowers, my shout out on the power. Our will be the best tied in in the league again. Well, maybe this year, Rock Bowers. And I think the Raiders always play the chiefs hard. And I know that anyone who watches football can agree with
Starting point is 00:37:45 me. Yes, there's been times I've gotten blown up by the Chiefs, but last year they should have beat them at home. Okay. We're on the 40 yard line about to score and someone forgot to like say hike or something. And the ball just went past our Hall of Fame quarterback, if no Connell. And that was the game and it was hurt. of fame quarterback in O'Connell and that was the game and it was hurt. Bro, I do remember that. I Gardner Minshew in O'Connell last year.
Starting point is 00:38:11 That was so hard to have to watch. Yeah. Now we got you have Smith, baby. And Pete Carroll, you know, Pete Carroll magic. You have a twenty twenty three Seahawks, baby. Let's fucking go. All right, guys, we're going to pivot into culture here. But first, this podcast is made possible in part thanks to amazing sponsors like LMNT. LMNT is my go to sports drink.
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Starting point is 00:39:06 Money back guarantee and if you're a new purchaser of the product all of your proceeds will go Directly to supporting the show. All right guys, they're kind of pivoting into culture We have like some different stuff on here But I kind of feel like the big cultural bomb went off on Thursday night when South Park absolutely skewered the president of the United States with not only bringing back the gay Satan character that they used to have Saddam Hussein pal around with, but also doing an AI desert crawl tiny pee pee reveal,
Starting point is 00:39:43 and basically begging to get sued. And I do think that that was pretty fucking funny. I don't know, did you guys see that? Yes. I did. I saw it at about four in the morning. My first reaction is like, oh my God. Like there's no way, right?
Starting point is 00:40:00 There's no way. They did that. That they actually did that. Yeah, I thought that was ballsy. And I think there was a lot of other ways to maybe go after him too. Like, I'm not. I think the whole like small penis thing. I look, I think we're playing a little bit playing into kind of how Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:40:16 is. Right. He makes fun of people. He's he's hateful. He, you know, name calls, people makes fun of, makes fun of people who with disabilities like this guy just is rotten to the core. And now we're just like kind of like, Hey, let's make fun of your, you know, let's body shame you. Yeah. Right. In a way. And like, I know that's like my totally liberal side of it. He thinks he looks like you hold in six, three, five sixty then come on there is Okay, I respect the part of you that says it is beneath it right?
Starting point is 00:40:50 I said culturally at my body shame a 79 year old man. Yeah, it is like Objectively kind of their point. Yeah. Yeah, I you know I wouldn't shame one of my 79 year old No, hell no hell no, but I don't know if one of my you know I your old fucking clients is that much of a petulant fuck like it's really hard. South Park is ahead of the culture and they know it's OK to make some of these jokes because it has swung.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I don't think anything is swung more for this guy in the last month than his standing with his own people who would have most likely had an absolute fucking meltdown about this if the man were not sitting in a controversy entirely of his own making related to his newly re-illuminated relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I think, first of all, South Park films on a one week timeframe. They literally made that episode in a week's time. They weren't sitting on it. They made it in a week. So they had already seen everything that came out, and I think that they felt, you know what, culturally this guy has fallen down so much,
Starting point is 00:42:00 in large part because of choices he made, 20 years ago to maintain a fucking relationship with somebody that he definitely knew was a bad guy. Wouldn't be the first time he did that. I think it's fair game. Even if the tiny peepee body shaming thing is like objectively lame and not helpful and doesn't move the narrative forward.
Starting point is 00:42:21 And I get it at South Park, right? And they've been doing this forever. Twenty seven seasons like. Yeah. Yeah. You can't. But there's so much more with this fucking guy that you could go after, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's forty nine more like they did explicitly.
Starting point is 00:42:37 There's forty nine more. I point out that like the whole point of the episode was he's litigious. He sues everybody because he likes to. And as part of their settlement with he sued the town in the first episode. So as part of their settlement, they had to give him like $3 million and make a bunch of pro Trump media, which is their dig at their parent company Paramount who fucking sold out.
Starting point is 00:43:01 They gave him $16 million because they edited the Kamala Harris interview. Which is crazy if you think about it because every 60 minutes interview has been edited to fit inside of 43 minutes plus commercials. So they really just wanted to give him 16 million so they could push this merger through. And I think the guys at South Park are like,
Starting point is 00:43:25 who cares if we get fired, man? We're working for a fricking baloney, phony ass network. And if we get booted 27 seasons in because we went further than we've ever gone, we're going out on top. I kind of like it. I think this is one of those like culture, they're ahead of the culture moments.
Starting point is 00:43:45 We'll see when we check in like what happens and where we're at in a few weeks. I don't know if the guy wiggles out of this one, but. You got the classic kind of digs back at South Park, fourth rate show, like nobody watches it. I mean. Less people watch it than before, but more people watch that one than anyone in a long time.
Starting point is 00:44:03 That's the magic of social media, right? Like that's where I first saw it too And it was like holding like you said like 4 a.m. When I got up I go there's no way no way they did this Yeah, I thought it was fake. I thought it was like a deep fake the I had to physically go to Paramount Plus Which I've probably opened one fucking time You're getting $300 like per year You're paying like $300 per year. It's like $299 a month because I get 40 ads every time I watch something. But my question is like, why did they wait so long?
Starting point is 00:44:30 Do they have to wait for him to like try to hide? Cross the river traffic from American people to actually be like, you know what? This is actually enough. Well, I mean, their season's only run like so long. They're not like year long. Yeah, it was like when I started. so I think the timing is just coincidental. They must have been That you have your most like rapid tumble from grace right now your own Supporters, I was I think it's important to note that like in the conservative media ecosystem
Starting point is 00:45:01 You see a lot of people using the Carmen, kick the Mexicans out of the water park meme as like they thought South Park was this right wing woke is stupid show and like for everybody has their frustrations with woke. Nobody's gonna fucking defend the corny ass elements of woke. But South Park is definitely a gently left of center show. And if you watched it when we were kids, they took unbelievable amounts of shots at Dick Cheney and George Bush. And like the guys who were taking shots
Starting point is 00:45:34 at Dick Cheney and George Bush in 1996 to 2000, like that show was on in the 1990s. So it was literally on when George Bush was campaigning for president. They were taking shots. They were left of center then. I think they're gently left of center now, but I think they have the stones to jump in because the culture is turning on him. A lot of this guy's own supporters are turning on him because this singular issue was the thing that that made them the most compelled to support him
Starting point is 00:46:05 to begin with. They felt like he's going to show us who the bad people in Washington are. Absolutely. Okay. Well, he didn't. And he might be one of the bad people in Washington, but we'll move on from that to talk about Maha, which I think might be a little bit more impactful, given that you guys probably don't care too much for our policy takes or our culture war takes, you should. But we'll definitely talk about Maha, which is making America healthy again. It's kind of a surrogate movement of MAGA,
Starting point is 00:46:37 but it is kind of the RFK spearheaded effort to get certain ingredients out of the food. Overall though, I feel like it's just kind of a complete absolute, I think it's like a total farce. My, what I have for you later is actually all about this. Yeah, I mean, it's been kind of like hard to follow because again, it's like with the whole administration at times, it's just like head scratching.
Starting point is 00:47:04 You're like, there's no way that this is a thing, right? Like there's insane amount of data that says that's completely false. And we're just kind of ignoring it for, I don't even know. Sometimes it just feels like a straight up power trip. Like just because I can, here it is. I just feel like a lot of what I'm seeing people celebrate
Starting point is 00:47:24 as these big accomplishments for this making America healthy again movement. Like like we are getting extremely excited about the removal of artificial food dyes and extremely excited about the swap of seed oil for beef tallow at like individual restaurants and individual corporations at the discretion of the corporation. None of this is legislative. None of this, none of what has been put into law has been done. So with the deliberate like thought, this is going to improve the health of Americans. Almost all of this is just, will you take something out
Starting point is 00:48:05 so we can say to our people we're doing something while we cut healthcare and frankly, roll back all these environmental things. One of the core things about MAHA was we hate pesticides and we fucking hate additives in the food and we fucking hate environmental toxins. Toxins this, toxin that, endocrine disruption this, endocrine disruption that,, this, toxin, that endocrine disruption, this endocrine disruption,
Starting point is 00:48:25 that PFAs forever chemicals, endocrine disruptors. You've heard all of that shit. And it's like, okay, the corporations wink, wink, nod, nod. We're going to take it out and make ice cream healthy. And the actual legislative stuff, like a lot of the protections we had environmentally to keep these chemicals out of our rivers, streams, water supply, food supply. Roll back, roll back, roll back,
Starting point is 00:48:50 roll back. And I don't hear a fucking peep from any of those people about the legislative stuff. Only the performative corporation crap. I don't hear a peep about the $800 dollar cut for kids school lunches either. Yeah, like Lunch should be free Should have reasonable it's like five dollars a day per student which we could absolutely afford and that program that you're talking about 770 million Four schools to buy healthy food Here's the kicker.
Starting point is 00:49:25 They got to fucking buy the food from the farms in the district. Right. So that was not only good for the economy, it was also like quite literally building a local supply chain, healthy local food to kids. What does that sound like? That sounds like a lot of like what fucking maha told people they were going to get. But we're going gonna cut that program
Starting point is 00:49:47 That was the closest thing we had to an actual program to get healthy food into kids bodies Well, we're talking about saying things like save the children running off of hey Your child is gonna be you know gonna be healthier gonna be safer if we don't elect this crazy and you know, gonna be healthier, gonna be safer. If we don't elect this crazy radical leftist. Radical Marxist woman. Marxist woman, we got the exact opposite. So I know a lot of my friends and family talk about, well, two in particular,
Starting point is 00:50:16 talk about their kids lunches being crap. Just like, oh, I don't like that my kid just like, they have crap food in their schools and they're not doing anything about it. Well Yeah, we need to have more access to fruits and vegetables and whole grains like we did when michelle obama That messaging was completely rejected by the same people. It was completely rejected completely rolled back and now We're gonna make the whole grains 50. We're gonna take away some fruits and vegetables We're just gonna add like more brown stuff,
Starting point is 00:50:46 like stuff that kids are actually going to like eat more of and in turn be more obesogenic. And yeah, all while saying, hey, you know what? We're doing something good for everybody because we're taking these ingredients out that, you know, red 40 seed oils, right? You're taking these ingredients out and they're not even taking seed oils out yet, which would actually maybe change.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Not taking out anything. There's that's that's the kicker. No law has been passed That makes it the case that any corporation has to take anything out of their products. They have made agreements to phase things out By certain dates. Yeah, so it's all fluff. It's a lot of fluff. Yeah, and it's not changing, it's not changing, it's not going to move the needle much because calories matter. I think it makes it worse.
Starting point is 00:51:34 It does make it worse. I think telling people, I don't want to get ahead because this is one of the things I want to close with, but I think we're starting to let Maha put a health halo on this in the corporate entities that have been selling you fucking dog shit food for a long fucking time by the way. They know they've been selling you ultra processed food designed to overeat that is designed
Starting point is 00:51:55 to make you overeat it. They're so fucking happy that all Maha's doing is making them make tiny promises they don't have to keep. They're so thrilled that no laws are being passed. They're so thrilled that no new taxes are being levied. They're so happy that their corporate taxes are getting lower and their profits are getting higher. They want more backroom deals.
Starting point is 00:52:13 They want you to think like, oh, we switched the sugar and coke so I can consume more of it or oh, the beef tallow fries are healthy so I can consume more of it. These corporations are going to make more money selling more calories with almost no impunity. This is all joke impunity. The grift is real. The grift is real and they're in on the grift. Okay guys, next ad. We're also brought to you by Legion. Legion makes premium sports supplements that help you improve your performance
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Starting point is 00:53:36 Are you guys ready? Yeah, let's fire it up. So we're reacting to our boy Joseph Fair. By the way guys, I pulled this because I thought this was, I thought this was absolutely amazing. Joseph Fair. combat the modern crisis of filtered water. 85 plus trace minerals to help hydrate you at some level. 85 plus trace minerals. testosterone, recovery, sleep, everything, really. It's one of the only supplements I take where I feel true vitality. I'm ready to rock after I take it.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Why does it, why does it not just? So this dude literally says like, he says the modern filtered water epidemic. So this it's like fucking millions of people all around the world every year who die from not having clean drinking water. Nothing douchier than being like the modern.
Starting point is 00:54:35 My water is so clean after add test boosting rock. That drink is like it's not clear, like it doesn't look filtered, obviously at all. It broke. It's if he fucking put dirt in his water, and you're telling me there's an epidemic when you put dirt in your water. Like, I don't understand it. Like we have gone. We are getting stupider. Like lifting is getting stupider.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Nutrition is getting stupider. He's saying because my water filter removes all the minerals from my fucking water, I'm adding I'm adding hella expensive dirt to my water like I don't know what's wrong with the Micronutrients from like fruits and vegetables at that point that are also majority of Lee water you can't sell them You know you can't sell me that's exactly right. I don't know. I just I wanted to hear what you guys This one I fucking have no Dude this guy came on I'm glued a bit I kind of like what fucking fired up beat like all these Democrats say you have to talk about and realize that people are
Starting point is 00:55:33 Really upset about illegal immigration fuck you. How do you think your hotel room gets cleaned? How do you think you got food on your fucking table? Who do you think washes your dishes? Who do you think does your fucking garden? Who do you think washes your dishes? Who do you think does your fucking garden? Who do you think is here by the fucking sheer fucking just grit and will that they figured out a way to get here because they thought that they could give themselves and their family a better chance. And he's somehow convinced all of us
Starting point is 00:56:02 that these people are the fucking criminals? Because I'll tell you what, if I became president in two years from now, or four years from now, or three years from now, I would pick up the phone and call the fucking president in El Salvador and say, you either fucking send them back or I'm going to fucking invade. It's a fucking crime what they're doing. So what do you think about president Hunter Biden invading El Salvador in 2028? Who let this guy fucking on the mic?
Starting point is 00:56:29 I'm not putting too much stock into that one. I don't know, bro. I have some takes. So he was just defending immigrants there? Right? He actually had a low-key fire take. He had a few. I hated this.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I hate to say this, but there were multiple times at which point I kind of agreed with Hunter Biden in that podcast, even though I do harbor some very deep frustrations about Hunter Biden's behavior. Absolutely. I mean, immigrants are very important for what we have here in the United States. Honestly, the country wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:57:00 what it was if it weren't for that. So I was going to leave with that. Yeah, I think what we're doing. Yeah. And how does Donald Trump made you believe that that poor person over here just seeking a better life is a fucking problem. Yeah. Well, he's still having all those people clean Mar-a-Lago. So, you know, just don't look over here. Okay. On that note, listen to this, boys.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I'm only bringing this up because we have talked about this for months. We've been talking about this in the gym since last fucking July, almost a year ago. It's been a year since the dude almost got whacked in Pennsylvania. And that's when we were, it's been over a year. I remember seeing all those anniversary of that date. Listen, for the last year, I don't know how many 30 year old millennial fucking dipshit white guys
Starting point is 00:57:42 got in front of a microphone and sane washed this guy, but a lot of them are backing it down now and you can check out homeboy here. I thought this was pretty telling. That's a hundred hundred good. So for years I thought if you're not here legally, you shouldn't be here at all. I flipped. I think the people who are working, the people who are paying taxes, those people should be able to stay. Okay, and the other people who are doing bad things. We need to find those people and what a concept. Okay, unbelievable. Welcome to the arena reasoned. Yeah, good job. Totally flipped. You know why my thoughts switched
Starting point is 00:58:19 on immigration while I was talking to my girlfriend in bed one night and she knows I'm I'm a little right little pillow. She knows just a little and uh She was like, um Just talking. She's like can we talk? I was like, yeah sure She's like fucked up. Like what's up? Talk to me. She goes explain to me, you know You know how our family got here all that stuff and I was like You know what? You might be right. Oh, wow Go it might be right. Oh wow. There you go. You might be right.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Because there are people here who work very hard in pay tax and they should be able to live in America. No shit. Well that's quite the pivot. And while I wouldn't call it necessarily profound, I'd say I'm seeing a fucking hell of a lot more of it because I think that in like. I like to see that, I like to see that I like to see that
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah, it's so easy to just shred homeboy up but like I do think a big reason got to the point at the end of the day like however long it might have Taken it. I think you're gonna see this a lot more because Donald Trump ran on getting out the worst of the criminals and the rapists and all these people and Now they're just talking about taking millions of people out of here. So who's left? Yeah, exactly. They're gone. They had to be all gone. We're going to give ice was 60 billion, 70 billion, 35.3 billion.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Sorry. 35 year, which is more more than the Israeli military needs to operate. Whatever they're doing. I hold them with so we can build these detention camps and we can put more, you know, quite frankly, you know, I want to say innocent people because when you do come over here, you do have basic fucking human rights. And in America, you should, right? Yeah. I mean, they're not guilty of being rapists or
Starting point is 00:59:58 murderers. They're probably guilty of overstaying a visa or they've had their TPS revoked because the Trump administration revoked it So they could fill these camps up with people and be like look we're doing what you wanted But I think what's happening right now is people like this guy are just like wait That's not what we wanted and then like I'm glad you're saying it But I'm also like bro where the fuck were you when they were holding up the mass deportation now? Signs at the convention like what did you think the fucking mass part meant?
Starting point is 01:00:27 Like, I hate to say it, but it's like that means many, many millions of people. And and it is completely fucked up. And I do think we're starting to see more people kind of open up to it. OK, this this one is going to fucking grind your gears, boys. We got our favorite chiropractor, Josh Axe. 17 years to share this message. The argument is if you believe in the Bible and you believe it is the word of God,
Starting point is 01:00:52 you cannot say red meat, bread and dairy are unhealthy for a human being. Red meat is the ultimate health food and delicacy in the Bible. It's the ultimate. It's not good, it's not okay. It's the ultimate. And here's why I say this.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Why is honey the ultimate sweetener for health issues? Honey is the Bible's sweetener. Honey shouldn't be considered a sweetener. It should be considered a medicine cabinet if you consume it in the right form. What is the difference between A1 beta-cacine and A2 and how they affect our body? Consuming dairy with A1 could be six times more harmful
Starting point is 01:01:32 than gluten. The church prayer request lists are growing with cancer, with dementia, with heart disease, with diabetes. And I remember a pastor telling me once when someone comes up to me and says, pastor, please pray for me to be healthier to lose weight etc And then he started asking them are you sleeping are you eating?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Well, are you following God's plan for rest and they said no no no and he said I don't want to pray for you I want to show you the truth and have you go do it because it's not God that needs to do something in our lives in every instance. Sometimes we need to just stick to the plan or in this case eat by the book. What is the difference between a biblical diet, the Biblio diet and a diet like the Biblio diet? You can follow the world. You can follow an influencer or you can follow God. I'm doing Biblio diet. Oh my God. Okay, that's amazing. You can follow an influencer or you can follow God
Starting point is 01:02:36 You can follow God hey guys hot take a lot of fucking people died of malnutrition during biblical times and eating biblically is Ten times stupider than carnivore. Maybe fifty times. I just don't know what the Bible even has to do with it. I know the Bible says you're allowed to eat your kids and it says you should eat dung bread. And it says it says some really stupid shit about nutrition. But I know it also says you should eat honey and red meat, which is like every carnivore's favorite fucking thing in the world. And that is like the ultimate head scratcher of a video. I just lack of words.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And we just stop getting like having chiropractors giving us nutrition advice. Like I'm not saying that all chiropractors don't know what they're talking about. I'm sure you have great nutrition. And some of them give probably give great nutrition because they are horrible rehab advice. They can't do both. Let me try to do two things. You're not qualified for it at the same time. But yeah, let's get some people on there who actually have some education or who actually listen to some They can't do both. Let me tell you. It's hard to do two things if you're not qualified for it at the same time. Yeah, let's get some people on there
Starting point is 01:03:26 who actually have some education or who actually listen to some experts who have, you know. Well, he does listen to experts. God. He listens to God. Yeah, I know. He is citing the 2000 year old study that is the Bible. Yeah, well, the Bible's been rewritten. The Bible's been debunked, boy.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I just felt like one of those instances and if you want to find something, you're gonna find it. Me, like, you see what you're thinking. Oh, I love this one. You voted for this, I'm like, I voted for none of this. You're doing the exact opposite of everything I voted for. I want him to stop the wars. He's funny, though.
Starting point is 01:03:59 I want him to shrink spending, reduce the budget, he's increasing it. It's like everything that he said he could do. I didn't know this guy was a liar. Except sending immigrants back. And now he's even flip-flopped on that, which I kinda like. But he's like, oh, well we kinda need the people
Starting point is 01:04:13 working in restaurants and we need our farmers. It's like everything that he said that he was gonna do that he can't be really lost. Well, he said to us, which was important, and I thought it was good, he pressed him on it, well, you gotta start with the criminals in terms of deporting. I don't think, I don't even know if the criminals are getting sent back.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I know there's a lot of people with green cards. Yeah, there's there's people who aren't criminals getting sent back. I don't know if you're sending back the criminals first. You definitely don't know first. I don't know if you're sending them back at all. Not the white ones. Nothing has happened. And you were more optimistic than I was because I judge him by his first four. And it was mr
Starting point is 01:04:45 Dream the swamp mr. Build the wall mr. Like a lot of the stuff he promised in the first floor. So why would anything? Shit they say Listen he I don't think you're gonna find somebody who is probably more pro criminal than the guy who pardoned 1500 criminals. Thank you. And to will basically green light whatever fucking Israel wants to do. I mean, that's whenever they want to do it, the convictions in a court of law do with his personal criminal convictions. It's literally just me saying like,
Starting point is 01:05:25 you can't think this guy is gonna bring law and order by kicking out a bunch of criminals. When before he even did any of that, he quite literally let 1,500 people out of jail who assaulted a government building. Well, even to look at that from a logical standpoint, the amount of oversight to only get the criminals out like how hard literally hard is that to do it's like impossible but no it's not that
Starting point is 01:05:49 hard though to like like be like what person who we know came here legally also committed a crime here let's start there like they don't always get deported immediately but there's just not enough of those people we'll spin into something positive guys we're gonna play a fun Snake draft here. We are going to draft the best Gym equipment. Okay, so this is a four piece of equipment roster Meaning myself Matt and Holden will all end up with four pieces of equipment By the time this thing's all said and done.
Starting point is 01:06:25 A snake draft means whoever picks first picks last. Whoever picks last picks twice in a row. So if I pick first, Matt picks second, Holden picks third, Holden picks fourth before Matt picks fifth and I pick sixth. So a snake draft will literally go in this order. And the goal here is simple. Who can build the best fucking gym with one pick per round?
Starting point is 01:06:47 Now, at the end, we'll share our four piece of equipment gym and let you guys be the judge of where the hell you would wanna train. All right, so very simple. Here's the rules. You have an unlimited amount of money to spend. You cannot pick the same piece of equipment somebody else picked.
Starting point is 01:07:01 And if an equipment piece of equipment uses a bar or plates, they come with it. So the goal is to build the best gym you can with just four picks one per round and we'll go Holden versus Matt versus me to see whose is the best Holden started off with the 101 first pick of the draft let's do a squat rack that's probably the 101 yeah that's probably the 101 squat rack is number one. You can't squat any substantial amount of weight without a squat rack. You can't clean it up, put it over your shoulders,
Starting point is 01:07:29 and squat. You need a rack to build your legs. Yep, and you can bench and you can row and you can probably do pull ups in that rack. Yeah, okay. Not bicep curls though. Matt, with the two. I'm gonna snag the dumbbells, just the versatility.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Here's where going third sucks, buddy, don't it? You're fucked. I wanted to double up on dumbbells and something else on the turn I just got cooked. Okay, so dumbbells, I am going to snag a cable machine at the 103 because I want the versatility. I can train every, okay, like I have fun hitting fucking triceps with your squat rack.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Have fun fucking hitting pecs with, oh you can chest press. I got dumbbells. Fuck. Shit. Well you know what? I'm gonna get some amazing pec flys and triceps and biceps and lateral raises
Starting point is 01:08:19 and cable crunches and rear delt shit. And so that's something I'm gonna take with the 103. I'm stalling as fuck. I have that's something to take with the 103. I'm stalling as fuck. I have no idea what I want with the 104. But I am going, I am going to, this sucks. I'm going to take a Smith machine, gross. Because I want a bar with different piece of equipment.
Starting point is 01:08:40 And I can bench in that shit. I can RDL in that shit. I can hip thrust in that shit. I can hip thrust in that shit, I can reverse lunge in that shit, my squats gonna feel awful. But I'll figure that out in rounds three and four. So on the turn I'm taking cable machine into Smith machine, Matt you're back on the clock.
Starting point is 01:08:57 How like crazy, like greedy can I get? Like you know at 24 where they have the big giant cable apparatus with the- You cannot take that. You cannot take five pieces of equipment that are Okay. Okay. So I have one one piece of equipment that I want. Can I take the entire job? I feel like at this point, I love a good lap pull down. So I'm going to go with a lap pull down. Okay. Like the tower. Yeah, that's good. That's a really good one.
Starting point is 01:09:21 I was going to choose it. So you got to you got to My rat comes with barbell, of course Yes, I know that's why it's the 101 you guys if not you would have had to use all your pick You got your choice. We had a bench. Yeah. No, okay. It's definitely its own piece Did I not get a bench with dumbbells fuck? No from the floor? Holden's about to steal a bench. You'll have zero chest support for. I mean, come on floor presses, loser. I'm going to go an adjustable bench.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Nice. Yes. Now I can actually do some supported stuff. Throw their presses, raises, whatever I choose. OK, OK, so I have two picks. Yeah, that was one. You get the double up here. 101 is for sure the best pick in the draft because you get the-
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah, the first thing everybody else wants. And you get a nice pick in the second and a great pick in the third. You have to wait a while for your final pick though. You got one more boss. Okay, yeah, I got one more. You got your bench and your squad rack. Yeah, so we pretty much, right now,
Starting point is 01:10:20 your gym is fucking tits. It's really good. If all of us- You have everything you need. Together, how did you- It's gonna be amazing. It's really good. If all of us everything together. How did you be amazing? Yeah, be incredible How about like some good flooring? Because I'm gonna go you should assume that the flooring is in place. Yeah. Yes. I want that. I've got everything I need now That's insulting Doesn't even care. Yeah, fuck you. I had this dog in squad
Starting point is 01:10:41 He doesn't want to draft. He doesn't even care. Fuck you. I had this dog and squad. I can't even throw your stuff. I think leg presses are cool. That's what I'm saying. Just fucking take the sweet leg press as well as the adjustable in my solution to not being able to squat.
Starting point is 01:10:55 OK, yeah, that's that's solid. I'm going to go with the hybrid machine that is the leg extension leg curl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because you're kind of cooked on training those with. I mean, I got the dumbbells. I can lunge. I can squat.
Starting point is 01:11:09 I had a lap pull down, so I got yeah, you're kind of taking care of a little bit. OK, and I have a cable machine, which is all upper body and a Smith machine, which is a nice blend. But I don't really have anything. You got to hear coming, but I got it back to back
Starting point is 01:11:30 and I'm done here. So like I have to close it out strong and I don't have, I'm going to take kettlebells. I can swing those. I can squat those. I can lunge them similarly to the way I could lunge. You can roll them. Dumb to the way I could lunge dumbbells. I could row them.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I will mostly be using these for swings, for goblet squats, but mostly to load lunges. Like my leg training is gonna be shit, because you got the fucking squat rack and the leg press, you greedy fuck, and I need something. So I got hip extension on the Smith Machine, I got hip extension with my kettlebell swings and I can lunge those fuckers pretty good.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Maybe even use them like laterals and curls and rows inefficient, but something similar to a dumbbell. Oh man. The last, my last pick is going to be the assault bike because I would like to have some cardiovascular fitness and I'm not unaware of the fact that you guys have skipped cardio up until this point. And I want to put some fucking pressure on you
Starting point is 01:12:35 in the last round to not go all bro. So just going to let everybody know I am thinking about my cardiovascular health. I'm very surprised. I was like thinking about my cardiovascular health. I'm very, very surprised. I was like thinking about taking a piece of cardio equipment. The only guy around me has the hardest time, dude. Fucking cardio. I don't see what you do.
Starting point is 01:12:56 I definitely like was thinking I should get a piece of cardio equipment, but then I was like, oh, yeah, I have plenty to hit legs, but I'm kind of like, then I was like, I have plenty to hit legs, but I'm kind of like, I'm squatting isn't the most friendly for me, like the long limbs, but I still do do it on a regular basis. And since Holden has a damn squat rack, I'm between a hack squat and a sled right now. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:13:20 And I think I'm going to take the hack squat. I was one of the ones that was thinking hack squat, but I was like, I would rather lunch with something. And if I take hack squat, I won't have anything like a kettlebell. The dumbbells took care of that for me. So I'll still be able to hit that and I can isolate some hammies. So I have two picks right now. No, you have one pick.
Starting point is 01:13:38 No, one. Yeah. You already picked three times. You picked back to back. So this is it. This is it. What was your other thing? He was thinking he was gonna double. Oh, yeah He only gets one you're cheating dog. I think the trade out of his pit
Starting point is 01:13:51 All right, dude, all you guys as calves are gonna be small cuz I'm getting Calf-rays see him this boy went Absolutely Jack the calf race is irrelevant irrelevant absolutely jack the calf raise is irrelevant no last pick of the draft Mr. Irrelevant for the calf raise. Are you calling calves irrelevant? The calf raise somebody who doesn't have any calves in my humble opinion is the best ankle mobility exercise out there my ankles are stiff as hell that's true number two you can't load your calves up with really anything else besides like a Smith machine that Danny you already have.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Yeah, I can do calf raise on the Smith machine. Yeah, you can. I'll find a way to have a lat pull down, bro. That'd be great. You can't lat pull that. Like I'm not trying to do the single leg calf raise, hold the kettlebell thing. I just don't really like it that much.
Starting point is 01:14:38 It could work, but I think a calf raise, man, really blow or really blow up your calves. And standing calf raise, by the way. All right guys, so that does it for the draft. I selected a cable machine. I selected kettlebells. I selected a Smith machine and I selected an assault bike. I had a wide array of dumbbells, a lat pull down,
Starting point is 01:15:01 a leg curl slash leg extension hybrid isolation isolation machine, and a hack squat. And I had the squat rack, I had the adjustable bench, I had the leg press, and the calf raise. Nice. So I'm only using a barbell. Have fun with that. To get my upper body going, but hey, it works. It'll work well.
Starting point is 01:15:23 That plays, dog. And I'm not gonna do any cardio at all because I don't have anything for that, but I'll just be smart. Just like, you know, super sad and do upper lowers. Yeah, you'll be fine. Just do barbell. If you get your kids around with cardio enough,
Starting point is 01:15:36 I'll walk my dog. We'll call it good, yeah. You can leg press and you don't wanna smart. You can throw up after you're a soul bike. Okay guys, so if you're listening on the podcast, this will sound a little weird, but we'll throw that up on short form on Instagram, on YouTube, on TikTok,
Starting point is 01:15:49 so I'll just record a little outro there. If you guys liked that draft, comment below who you think won the draft. You can say one for me, two for Matt, or three for Holden. Okay guys, we're getting into one more live react before we close out. Oh, restricted video. Well, nevermind.
Starting point is 01:16:08 That video's been taken down, probably because it was fucking crazy. I don't even remember what it was. But going ahead and getting into our closing out segment of the pod, guys. Matt, you can go ahead and start us off. So some I'm looking forward to. Yeah, what you're looking forward to.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Yeah, what's on your radar? We're gonna close off. off. We're in like late July, almost early August, right? So that means we got the NFL season coming up. I'm excited to see my Niners again. I've season tickets again this year, so I'm pretty excited to go catch some of those games. We should be a lot better than last year. Major let downs. Obviously with football season comes like the fantasy draft and just kind of shit talking with the boys. So that's kind of the five months of fun coming up. And yeah, man, I'm big on the sports here to finish baseball coming down the stretch,
Starting point is 01:16:54 seeing some of these races, you know, that Paul Skeen's race. I got my eye on for the Cy Young. Will it affect the card value? Hopefully. 20X. We'll see. We will circle back at season end. I will keep you guys updated on the card value? 10, 20 X. We'll see. We will circle back at season end. I will keep you guys updated on the car.
Starting point is 01:17:09 That'll be a fun one. I think you should sell it, but we'll see. We'll see. Holden, what do you keep in your eye on? Well, what am I keep my eye on? I am excited about football season. I really am. I feel like it's been forever. And I've already done some best ball drafts. Nice. I'm not very good at drafting. I feel like it's been forever. And I've already done some best ball drafts. Nice. I'm not very good at drafting.
Starting point is 01:17:26 I feel like I don't I don't know. I just different time. I put it into the analyzer. They say, oh, that's trash. Poor team. I don't worry about that. How is your bro? They know it's got feeling anyway.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Minus team when when the ship. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, looking forward to seeing my kids continue to grow up and, you know, find their personalities and they're crazy. Like with Hudson, he's three and a half. He's my oldest and just taking him out to the golf range. That was really cool. And he's addicted to golf, like his dad.
Starting point is 01:17:59 So I'm really looking forward to getting out with him and kind of showing him the ropes a little bit and just watching him, you know, continue to do his to getting out with him and kind of showing him the ropes a little bit and just watching him continue to do his thing and work with him. He's, it's a journey and having eight month old too. So he's getting there. He's just starting to crawl, just starting to crawl. So I'm looking forward to seeing those guys
Starting point is 01:18:22 continue to grow up and get a little bit easier to deal with and sleep better throughout the night. So I can get better sleep, my wife can get better sleep, I can train harder, recover better. It's all about me, right? So, but yeah, that's kind of what I'm doing. I'm just a dad, you know, busy with those guys and looking forward to football season.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Yeah, I second all that. I'm so fucking pumped for football. I can't wait. I wanted to talk some shit, because I don't know. We talked about body shaming, when it is okay, when it isn't okay. This is not okay. Yeah, this is a good one.
Starting point is 01:18:58 I saw this. So I scrolled along Twitter the other day, and I'm pretty politically inclined. You're allowed to talk some shit. The landscape has changed. First amendment baby. But Mr. Congressman Randy Fine, a Jewish representative from Florida. So I get it.
Starting point is 01:19:14 You know, you as a Jew, you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. You gotta hold it down brother. There's an active war going on between Israel and Hamas. I understand it, but we've got a sitting congressman advocating for the starvation of what are mostly just relatively non-terroristic people and children. So you've got a sitting US congressman advocating for the starvation of kids while being so morbidly obese.
Starting point is 01:19:44 This dude has clearly never fucking missed a meal of kids while being so morbidly obese. This dude has clearly never fucking missed a meal in his life and I am like the last person to body shame someone when it comes to this. But it is like so unbelievably tone deaf and not lost on me that the dude who's saying like, starve these people and I want these hostages back. Absolutely. But like, bro, do you know how fucking gross it looks starve these people. And I want these hostages back, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:20:05 But like, I don't, bro, do you know how fucking gross it looks that you get to sit here, cashing your check, you're not even fucking working right now because your boss sent you home because he's on the fucking Epstein list. Just engorging yourself and relishing in the starvation of kids. It's like wildly beneath the office of a US congressman,
Starting point is 01:20:24 Mr. Randy Fine, And I think it is just so unbelievably lame that you would relish in that. And someone call you out on it, Randy. I thought it's a pretty lame thing for a big old fat guy to do, but it's okay. You know, sometimes you got to take swings. I just thought that was so gross, but that does it for the pod, guys. I want to thank you all for listening. Way longer, way more enjoyable, way more topics covered. I mean, geez, we talked about fitness, wellness, and injury prevention longer than we normally talk
Starting point is 01:20:54 for just one episode. So you hope you guys enjoy the pod. Again, it will be the dynamic dialogue podcast for a little while longer, but the goal is to transition into a new running pod that we're going to call the Progressive Overload Project, where we talk about things designed to help you improve your life and fitness and wellness
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