Dynamic Dialogue with Danny Matranga - 405: Presidential Fitness Test, "NEW" Coke, Ultraprocessed Foods + More!

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

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Welcome and everybody to another episode of the Dynamic Dialogue podcast. As always, I'm your host, Danny Matranga. Again, joined by my buddies Matt Loco and Holden King, talking all things, fitness, nutrition, sports, culture, politics, et cetera here. It's going to be a fun and amazing episode of the podcast. We're talking about the new presidential fitness test, the return of the presidential fitness test. We're going to talk about sugar, specifically the kind of big, controversy around the sweeteners in Coca-Cola as well as artificial sweeteners.

We've got some listener questions on things like creatine, specifically creatine use for women, how to improve mobility, as well as how to limit DOMs. We're going to talk about tips for warming up as well as tips for managing soreness. We'll talk about what got us into fitness and how old we were when we got into fitness. An exciting study from University College London on the differences between ultra-processed minimally processed foods, and which ones are better for weight loss, which I think will be very, very interesting for you guys. When it comes to sports, we're talking football and baseball as we gear up for NFL season.

We've got lots to talk about on the culture side of things, as well as some fun drafts. We'll be drafting superhero NFL teams and more. I hope you guys enjoy the episode as we transition the podcast from being what was once the dynamic dialogue podcast, where it was only ever me, only talking about fitness into the Progressive Overload Project, where we talk about a lot of things in the health and fitness space, but we kind of lean into some more entertaining things. So I'm going to kick it off here with kind of a lean into the new presidential fitness test. Of course, President Trump launched the new presidential fitness test, which is just the old

presidential fitness test coming back. I think that was taken off the docket in like 2012 or 2013 by President Obama, because at the time, there was a lot of contention around. Does this thing really help kids ultimately reach a place in their physical education journey where they like exercise? And I think they pulled it because some kids feel kind of bullied or on the spot. But I did it. Matt did it. Holden did it. We all did it. And I'm kind of curious what your guys is, do you guys remember doing it? Because I have a very clear recollection of doing it more so than a lot of what I did in high school because it did feel very much like a judged thing.

Yeah, I remember doing the sit-and-reach test and not being able to touch my damn toes. I can remember the exact wall I was on in the gym I was on when I did the sit-and-reach test. Did you guys have that little black box, though, like the platform that overhoused to, oh, dude, that thing humbled me at a very early age. You could see how far you reached on the top of it. Yeah, exactly, yeah. No, that sit-and-reach test humbled me. I'm all legs, though, and I knew that. Okay, you know, all, like, short torso, so it's going to be harder for me. So, and there's an inequity in the test there.

Yeah. That's one of the ones where you're cooked. Oh, dude. Harder in a way, my, like, worst ones. On everything. Okay, so for those of you guys who do not know the test, we shit before we get too far into the criterion for the test, now, I believe, is one mile run, sit-ups, push-ups, or pull-ups. I think when we did it, it was push-ups and pull-ups. Yeah, I did both.

I definitely fucked up the pull-ups. I'll talk about that. Oh, that was my chair. I didn't know there was... Sit and reach, I remember, and shuttle run. So those are all back. We'll talk about maybe how we would want to adjust those, but it's the same it used to be,

but I guess you can pick between push-ups or pull-ups. That's cool. That makes it a little bit more feasible for some people because pull-ups are the hardest thing, by far. And they're both measures of strength, like body weight exercise, so I think they're pretty interchangeable in that sense. When you were in high school, did your school give you something if you were able to pass at a high enough bar on all of these tests?

Did you guys have like a P.E. excellence or like a, because that's how my class did this testing. Okay. No, mine was not even in high school. Mine was more so like elementary school. Okay. Yeah. I remember elementary school. So they gave you some ribbons at my school, like first, second, third, fourth, like up to like 10th place, I think. And so that made it like really competitive, which this test is right for the right person, I think. And I love that they're bringing fitness back in schools. Are they trying to at least? least, because we all know that kids need to move more. Like, bottom line. Definitely. I like more. It's far too much, get a more active.

Way too much. I mean, it's honestly sad. And I think it contributes, like, massively to why these kids struggle with their mental health. Like, I am too new a parent to really know, but I'm young enough to remember being a teenager in the age of, like, screen time. It's three times as bad as it was when we were their age. I think it's wrecking me.

I think it starts, like, a body dysmorphia complex, like, pretty early because you're like already comparing, like you guys said. You're already being judged, you know, by like literally your peers, the people you want to be your friends. I could see why kids today would hate this so much more than even we did when we were younger. Because I remember when this was administered, I was in high school and it was PE. I don't really remember doing it in elementary school. I'm sure I did. But I remember doing all of these tests.

And if you got high enough marks on them, obviously you passed the test. Right. But you also got a special shirt. And it was a P.E. shirt that said Sonora High School, excellence in physical fitness. And it was camo. That's kind of cool. The other one was just your basic P.E.

That you had to dress out in. And if you got excellence, you could dress out in the camo shirt. Okay. So you got the flex on your homies. Bro. Every fucking guy who passed that test cut it off. Of course. Deep cut off to this.

To this. You know what I'm talking about? Followed by a chest stay in the gym More like a stringer but a side only level Stringer nips very much out But like this way And I just remember that was the goal I remember being 14

I had a number of those That was my like probably what got me into working out It was being one pull up away I had to get 10 And I did nine And at 130 something pounds Nine pullups is not very good Yeah one away

And it really bothered me And I worked on it and I got it the next sharing the shirt was gold. It was just gold. Yeah. But it was something and it hella drove me, but I feel like a lot of kids got just zero zero zero zero zero zero zero. I really looked forward to this test because I am just competitive in nature. So like I said before, I think it's good for the right person and we need to bring more fitness back. I also think we need to bring some more education around nutrition back as well. So if we can go like more nutrition education, more teachers who

or maybe qualified to help these kids reach more fitness levels and to practice, like, self-improvement. Like, I love that. And this is a good start maybe to be talking about it. Maybe the timing is from, you know, Donald Trump talking about it right now. It only works if we don't, like, cut funding to PE. That's what I'm saying, yeah. Then it's like massive federal funding cuts.

And schools are always going to cut PE because it's non-educative, like the rest of the classes. And then they always cut from PE. I'm just like, whatever. but I do think we need to kind of we need to push it a little bit more than I think that

this is going to sound so annoying there is like a softness no I do think there's there's a perfect word there's a softness for it reducing the physical education standards in compulsory systems like if you're in a public school system one sixth of your day

being exercise is fucking reasonable you are a young developing body and you fucking sure shit aren't thriving when you're sitting in a god darn desk all day totally and we're not being asked to be like a super soldier by any means like you know some fitness like doesn't need to be like everything about your life is now fitness some percentage of those kids get zero exercise zero exercise yeah no no extracurricular sports i had recess every day we were running a mile or more every day we had to like accumulate enough laps around the track toward the end of the year so we could go to six flags marine world like

I love that incentive. That's a lot of motivator. That's a motivator for sure. So it's like those kind of things do work for kids and I do think they're reasonable. And I feel like, you know, what if you have to put the carrot in front of the horse, then do it. Because we need kids to move more. It's going to make them learn better. It helps them retain better, helps them deal with whatever stress they have in their lives are at home.

And we know they deal with tons of stress now because of social media. I like the idea that you had. I've always wondered this. Kids tend to hate science, or they don't hate science, but they tend not to love science. They especially don't like chemistry because it's really complicated. Totally. One of the best ways to learn about chemistry is through nutrition. And if chemistry was taught in school in the form of, like, macronutrient chemistry, like, hey, this is what happens when you eat protein.

This is what happens when you eat sodium. This is what happens when you eat fats versus carbs. I think kids would be, I think our nutrition education should just be worked into the existing science framework to make biology and chemistry as kids learn them more tangible because every kid's around food and there's like no nutrition education at all. I understand that there might be some but it's woefully bad and if kids knew more about food I think they'd be down to be more proactive. For sure.

I think you can even start that on like a kindergarten level and just, like slowly introduce more specific things the older they get and kind of the more info they get as well so i i like that idea so one mile run sit-ups pull-ups or push-ups sit-ups sit-and-reach shuttle run that's the test would you swap anything out and how can we like is it possible to like progress this or make it harder or is that even i think it's not really like exactly as it needs to be um mostly because it was like my arch nemesis the sit and reach like i don't think that's entirely necessary. Massive flexibility of your like hamstrings is not that telling your overall fitness level. Sure, I guess it's good since like kids are literally sitting at a desk all day

in school anyways. But like I think you should swap that out for either like a modified high jump or short distance sprint. It's just so you know. And it's so just cut and dry. I feel like. But it kind of needs to be. Yeah. It does. I agree though. It is what is it is cut for? Oh, we're talking about the I don't know. Yeah. You were talking about just the test in general. I'm only talking about the one component that is the sit-and-reach standing out to me as the most useless. I'm not saying the test is perfect, but if I were going to swap one, that'd be the first one. Because I'm like, because I'm like, 70% of the population is overweight. I don't give a fuck if you can touch your toes, dude.

Like, I'm sorry. Like, the whole reason we're bringing back the presidential fitness test is because 70% of teenagers are overweight, like 50% are obese and 100% are anxious. Is this really? I don't give a shit if you can touch your toes, kid. There's got to be something better we can test for. Could we do anything else? Like, I like the mile. I like the push-ups.

I like the pull-ups. But the sit-and-reach stands out to me as like, okay, you can, that you have good passive handstring flexibility. Congratulations. Like, it's not a good one. It might be the ones for the kids that are flexible that can hit a mark for, you know, not, not the string. If everybody could win, I mean, it's fine as it is.

I just like, if I can nitpick, I'm getting rid of it. If you went from not being able to do it to being able to pass the test, it would be the least improvement in your health of all of those others. If you failed all the other ones and you had to be able to do them, you'd improve somehow. So I just think we should switch that out. Yeah, yeah. What do you think, Holden? How's the test?

Let's switch it out for, like, lifting or, like, squatting or carrying stuff or doing, like, human movement stuff. I think that'd be kind of cool. And a little more engaging. Maybe give them all something or it's like, hey, this is where you were at last time. Let's try to improve for yourself today for some of the softer kids, you know? I think it's clear that there's obviously administration of the test is tough. So some of all of it being body weight is good.

I kind of think it's like push-ups and pull-ups are great. Body weight strength standards. And so there's really nothing for lower body strength standards. So I kind of like something like a squat. I don't know if you could do it with weight. I feel like it would be hell of easy to be like, look. For dudes, you have to grab a 50-pound dumbbell and goblet squat at 10 times. For women, you have to grab a 25-term.

What age are we talking here? High school? Okay, okay. I think that's beautiful. I didn't do the presidential fitness session in high school. I think a teenager should be able to squat a 50-pound dumbbell. And if you can't squat the 25-pound. Let's see.

What you can't hold it if you failed upper back says too. You can't hold it. Get the fuck out of here, okay? All right. Back to El Salvador with you, kid. At 40 years old, never exercised after that again. I think a lot of, I think people actually have PTSD from their PE teachers. Oh, most people dislikes their experience in PE.

Totally. I love, I mean, PE, I loved it. And I think anybody who's competitive at all, every dude is going to love it. Every dude, science, anything that had to do with me opening a goddamn book. The meme, the meme of Dodgeball, they. in the gym or like NPE for the jocks versus the not so athletic kids that really is just awful yeah it really is like talk about a confidence open there's so many sports that are open season

that one's open season completely unreasonable and that's the part of P that I think is worse than any of this testing like worse than any of the testing is like hey guys it's the basketball unit it's going be totally fun just get together with you know the total totality of the group you can team up at random And it's like the five guys that know how to play basketball or playing. It's like three short guys and two girls. Yeah. It's just a domination for 50 minutes. The day where it's like, hey, we're going to play dodge ball today.

And I'm on the other side. And I'm just throwing that thing. Head shots. It's absolute head shot. Have you ever hit? Did you guys have like specific periods of PE like in high school? That was only one sport. Yes.

Like I played. Square dancing, gymnastics, like blocks. No, no, no. Wasn't a block. I'm talking. The whole class was this all year long. Like I had a basketball. basketball class my sophomore and senior years and all we did was hoop like there was no other that sounds

amazing it was fucking sick dude it was so sick america 40 third in education globally but we have hell basketball only glasses for high school just go shoot hoops we didn't have the best team so he was probably looking for some talent all right okay so also in the this one's also so relevant and again we can thank the president for this both of these things you are uniquely in the news because of the Jeffrey Epstein thing and like I think it's hilarious that we got the presidential fitness test and we got a like real live like bleat tweet truth fake tweet from the president like I got off the phone with Coca-Cola we'll show the tweet I got up the phone with Coke big talk great news they're changing the sweetener to cane sugar no more high fructose cane sugar is way

better like the Mexican Coke you'll see and it's like the thing I love about this just like Check out this new product. The man has had a button on his fucking desk. Going back 2016, he presses up to 12 times a day. Again, you can show it on the screen. For a diet Coke. He phones in a soda. He buttons in a soda.

Diet Coke, though, not the Coke with cane sugar. He knows damn well that the best Coke to drink is Diet Coke. For your health, yes. For your health. Yeah. And that's going to, that will fucking blow people's mind. Diet Coke is definitely the healthiest Coke to drink because it has zero calories. And when 70% of the population is overweight, that means 70% of the population is overdosing on calories.

And if you can make your soda go from 140 calories a serving to zero, that's amazing. I challenge you to do that for any other fucking thing humans eat. Tell me when you find diet pizza, diet chips, diet soda, diet cookies, you won't. So guess what? Like 15% of people's calories come from sugar-sweetened beverages. You can nuke those to zero. That's a good choice, a better choice than, in my opinion, switching from high-fructose corn syrup, which is just corn sugar, to cane sugar. That's my take.

People kill me every fucking day on the internet for that because I'm not an artificial sweetener catastrophist. Yeah, yeah. Well, like Diet Coke all the way, this is such bullshit. And it's like so obvious misdirection from Homeboy. Because he's, again, housing a case of Diet Coke a day. This is not his, he doesn't have a dog in this. Well, yeah, you saw that, remember the Donald Trump being 6 foot for 225 pounds would be 6 foot for 425 pounds if he had 12 Cokes a day with the regular cane sugar or the high

fructose corn syrup. That's an extra how many calories, 1,500, 1,500 calories a day. It would be almost 1,500 surplus calories a day. It's like half a pound. For the man. The guy wouldn't be able to move. For the 79-year-old man with existing known documented vascular disease. Yeah, like that little of the picture of him with the ankles.

Like there's literally a Diet Coke next to his ankles. Thank you, that Diet Coke ankle picture. Like literally proves this. That was like a day after this. You're right. Like so few fucks given. No. Like, hey, none whatsoever.

You know what? You fucking idiots. I'm going to tell you something about the Coke sugar. And you're going to eat this up. I called Coke. Never happened. And I'm going to have them switch it out. Literally this conversation was never documented.

And Coke even came out. It was like, all right. I guess you guys want it. So we're going to make soda with that and continue to make corn syrup. They're going to replace anything. They're going to make the maha Coke. Dude, they're going to weaponize the food. Which is Mexican Coke.

They will have. They're rolling out a product that already exists. It exists. It already exists. The irony, though. But this one will have beef towel in it, and it will have... The irony that Maha Coke, like the new Maha Coke is like, give me that cane sugar. And if the formula is Mexican Coke, like, the irony is not lost on me.

Oh, my God. I think it's the funniest thing ever, dude. It's just not moving the needle. It's not really doing anything. It doesn't. It's fucking just a waste of time and just another headline that's distracting us from who knows what. Well, it's the Epstein thing. God, who does know.

I think we do know why. All right. I think that is really funny that two of the most actually contentious, like, real stories in nutrition and real people's households, one of them came from the president. Another one was a recent study that we're going to talk about a little later. Just a lot of it is circulating around processed foods, ingredients, and all this stuff. But I think just to close that out, when it comes to soda, if you have it every once in a while, the sweetener is mostly irrelevant. If you have it every day, I think it matters so

fucking much. And I think it's like, it's such a good example of compounding like a diet soda every day for a month, zero calories. A regular soda every day for a month, way over 4,000 calories. That small switch right there takes like two full days of eating a month off of somebody's plate. and I think when you do that with a switch that costs no money and no fucking effort you are winning and you can't do that with any other food it doesn't mean diet sodas are healthy but switching them for what

let's be honest most people are actually drinking would be great like and I would say the same thing if you're drinking a 300 fucking calorie latte every morning and it's got real cream real sugar real dairy fat real coffee but you switch it for an artificial monster energy drink with the same amount of caffeine you're going to lose a lot of weight. And if you're overweight, the zero calorie stimulant is better than the 300

calorie stimulant. That's just my take. Okay, we're moving on. We have some listener questions. I think these are exciting. This one comes from being underscore me underscore Melissa. And she wanted to know if we could explain. The question is, can you explain creatine for women in a simple way? So what I'm going to tell you is we all think you should take it. Every single one of our female clients who's open to taking it, we've probably encouraged to take it. Definitely. Of the people that I've had take it recently, I can, like, I'm going to say like 15 to 20 new people taking it, I might have one to two people who have had even anything to say

about the experience with it that was negative. To me, it's almost always inert. You don't feel it. It's really easy to start with. Even for women, I don't see any issues. Even for women. No issues for me. Yeah.

Yeah, the only issue I've had is, like, maybe a little, like, you know, stomach upset. But that's really easy to fix because you can just lower your dose or you can spread it throughout the day a little bit. Totally. Yeah, I've had clients, like, on the first week be like, oh, my God, I'm feeling this so much. I can live so much more way. I have so much more energy. And I'm like, in my head, I don't think it's had long enough to saturate yet. But, hey, the placebo effect is real.

Yeah, for sure, dude. But the thing, yeah, the thing with creatine, got to be consistent with it. You need to take it every day. And I find with women, too, maybe women eat a little bit less, like red meat, pork, you know, things in proteins that are naturally rich in creatine. So they do tend to benefit. I find they benefit from it quite a bit. I also find older, like my older clients benefit a lot from creatine, obviously in the gym, but I kind of also feel like I have seen it cognitively. Like 10%. Like a lot of people say like, you've already been seeing that? Yeah, because too, many of my clients are older. Yeah, no, no, I mean, same here, but, like, if it's already noticed in a difference, I know they started those cognitive tests already, so. Quite some time. Like, you got to think, I've been talking about creatine for a long time.

I mean, I would imagine you guys have been having your clients take creatine since 2020 or at the latest. Yeah, at the soonest I. And this and now, preotene is so mainstream. And a lot of, and you know what else is mainstream is cognition and longevity and Alzheimer's. And everybody's like fucking terrified of that, especially, millennials because we have the money to spend on it and the knowledge to know and our parents

have these problems. Right, right. And we're a little terrified of creatine too because of the notion where you could look like you're bloated and you might look a little bigger, but it sucks because the water goes in the muscle tissue and not between the muscle and the skin where you might think it might make you, if anything is going to make you look leaner and more jacked. That's an important thing to add in. Just so you know that. Yeah, that gets missed a lot. And I that's super important because women worry the most about water retention and they never seem to get when when the information is passed along to people that creatine leads to water retention it's very rare that with that is is the caveat that it's but it's in your muscle right it's super

frustrating because it seems like it only ever comes from people who want you not to take it or from somebody who's just spreading the misinformation but it's like part of how it works is by helping that muscle stay hydrated so it can perform. But I feel that women get hit with this the most and they would benefit from creatine the most. So it makes the most sense to be like, hey, there is a lot of misinformation

but you probably benefit from it. You don't need a ton. You can start with like two grams a day, work up to five grams a day. You can spread it out. If you're smaller, I do find like women who are smaller, like below five foot two can probably take like three grams.

a day because it's got to be weight adjusted. They say five grams a day for everybody's fine. I also think it's probably fine to go even lower if you're little or way higher because I've taken 20 grams a day and already had problems. Right. And there's new data coming out. And I'm really excited about it, you know, looking at the cognitive effects. And like if you can take more, there shouldn't be a problem with it. Take more. I don't know how strong the scientific data is right now on like, hey, 20 plus grams is actually going to be way better. I don't know if it's worth the tradeoffs. I didn't continue it because I was like I'm not noticing a market improvement in any of these areas and I don't want to open myself up to any unknown downside at like a 4x the evidence

based dosage. Yeah. Right now three to five. You should just take it like at the end of the day. Three to five. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Going on to the next question. This one's from at Kristen Key A. Z. She wants to know what are the best stretches and or warmups for leg day. My Dom's last forever. So let's start with the warm-up stuff because I think the Dom's tips and the warm-ups tips are probably going to be separate.

But one of my favorite things for Leg Day, I learned this from this had to be 10, 15 years ago on YouTube. The late great John Meadows, whose username was Mountain Dog 1, I believe. He was really big on before squatting, training hamstrings specifically knee flexion like taking the hamstring and using it to move the knee joint like when you do a hamstring curl and so doing that lying hamstring curl before you do your

heavy squats and your heavy lunges and he said like it makes your knees feel so good and so stable and i've always kind of like that as like a good not warm up but like if i am going to squat and I have time, if I'm going to lunge and I have time, two sets of lying or seated hamstring curls to get the knee joints moving and to get the hamstrings going. I know activation work, like glued activation stuff is mostly bullshit, but like this is one that I just think is nails. It really feels good.

And most people's leg days include those kinds of activities. So that one I like, then just don't forget to actually do like a, a somewhat of a warmup if you if you're like before you start like get your tissue temperature elevated legs are hard to train and it's the hardest muscle to train cold yeah for sure so knee's definitely important to warm up especially before you do something like a squat for me it's all about the hips um i get kind of like tight hips from time to time i'm like a link here individual as well and uh when i have bad air tight hips like my low back pays for it so i love like the little spider man stretch on like

out of push-up position right and getting a little bit of that thoracic rotation just I don't it makes me feel like I'm truly like warming up every fiber as I get ready for it and then I do a little dynamic stuff which is off of the floor some like single leg bridges

and from there I feel good and ready to go and usually jump into it yeah good good yeah I like those yeah for the most part when it comes when I walk into the gym I'm so just like I just want to get as much working as I can okay possible and look there's nothing wrong with warming up with your first exercise like if you're going to squat like grab the empty barbell and just like do some squats feel it out if it kind of feels like shit do the empty barbell again and keep on going until you're like fully warmed up like that's an easy practical way for a lot of people i like doing three five minutes of aerobic work too to kind of get things loosened up and that really helps a lot um so yeah like i was just i just posted something the other day about warming up with the squat or for a squat and for a deadlift or for a lunge or or a

compound exercise that you might start with, they all apply. Do your first set really light. Do your next set really light. Your next set really light, adding weight slowly. And I really find that that that just helps with just like getting done quicker and, you know, really efficient. But like there's so many things you can do. Like I like doing 9090s. I like doing like some ankle prying stuff, some calf raises because I typically, I have really like concrete tight, you know, ankles. And I'm really long too. So ankle mobility can rely on that a lot too, with squatting especially. Before we get into the doms tips, I do think there's something you, like, the best way to fix doms is to not get them too bad to begin with.

And like the most likely reason you get doms all the time is you probably just do way too much. Maybe when you go to the gym or your recovery is like not where it needs to be. You probably are over, you might not be overtraining. You might be under recovering. So if you're like always sore, you might be never nourished. You might be never getting enough protein, never getting enough sleep, never getting enough hydration. But there's a few things I think you should be aware of if you're like, dude,

I'm always fucking sore. One thing is eccentric. We were talking about this a little before we jumped in, but like simply put, when your muscles work like Velcro and when you flex them and the muscles contract and shorten, the fibers run across each other like Velcro. And when those muscle fibers come across or come apart from one another, when you lower the weight, eccentrically, and the muscle gets longer, it tears a lot like Velcro. And when you do these long eccentrics, you can get a lot of stretch and a lot of damage

and accumulate, I think, a lot of basically stuff that hurts in the tissue. And, like, there might, I'm sure there's more to it than that I want you guys to jump in. But, like, if you do these really slow, long eccentrics on every rep, it wouldn't surprise me if you're sore because that is the part of the range of motion that contributes more to the feeling of being sore

and muscle growth and muscle growth which is why it's super important to like have have have it present you want to do these lengthened position exercises like you guys probably taxing for sure yeah you guys hear this a lot lengthen positioned exercises like what are they a lot of them are the ones that people tend to like hate because they're really difficult and they're hard in the most uncomfortable positions. Think of like an RDL. It's really hard when your hamstrings are all the way stretched.

And that means they're lengthened when they have to really exert themselves and that is a tough exercise. It's also an exercise with a long eccentric. Like if you do an RDL right, you should go down slow. That's probably like the main one I can even think of. Yeah, because I think the number one issue

you're going to have with an RDL if you're going really fast is you're not going to feel it in your hamstrings or glutes. You're going to start to feel it in your back. Yeah. you're low back, especially as you get closer and closer to the floor, like you're past your range of motion, the hamstrings being stretched

fully, right? For sure. It's all low back at that point. If you have limited hamstring mobility, your RDA will be short, and if you go too fast, you'll probably flex your spot. But that's like the ultimate exercise if you wanted to get Hellasor. Oh, yeah. Not in my mind if I would think of the next. Barbell squat.

Barbell squat, leg press, will kill you. Lunge, Bulgarians, deep ranges of motion. These exercises have deep ranges of motion. Rows, pull downs, all those kind of basic ones that you can... Dips. Anything under like challenging working sets, right? Like, of course. That's a great point. That's a great

point. I don't want to lose track here. But like a shit, shortened position, tricep extension to failure is probably going to make you more sore than a lengthened triset masterpiece that is done with no effort. Right, right. 100% you still have to put the effort in. It's not just like,

oh, I picked all the maximally lengthened hard exercises. I'm going to grow the most. Effort is still really important. And that's why I think with your lifts, that like, I think a lot of, maybe this Kristen woman, maybe she has doms so bad. Maybe you have doms so bad all the time because maybe when you work out, okay, you choose all of these lengthen exercises that we just talked about. You're RDLs, then your squats, which are freaking awesome. I do those in one session all the time. Then you lunge, then you do step-ups, then you do Bulgarians. You do these redundant exercises.

If you're going to do- Probably need like four at the most. the most like you can even get away with one i mean yeah depending on if you do a lot of it yes yes so like let's say you start off with a barbell squat that's a big big winner yeah and then you go and decide to do a step up or a split squat you don't really need to do that like pick one of those i feel like for sure same muscle group same like movement right could be that there's too much going back to the well on the same type of pattern on the same day yeah which is good for volume if you're doing too much, if you're sore for four or five days, it's probably a good indicator that you're doing a little too much or like you said before. I don't know is like undernourishing,

yes, under sleeping, under hydrating, all those are obviously really important. But it doesn't sound like you're doing that. Because you're a fit person, you go to the gym a lot and you're asking us these questions. Like, you're probably on that. Maybe your training is just you're overdoing it a little bit. I think that's a great point. Yeah, that's pretty spot on for me. If you are hellasore, it's kind of funny because the first part was a warm up question. And like, None of the supplies. You're like, I have doms. I want to manage them.

That's where I would actually do like the stretching and the foam rolling that people love for warming up. I have found that they're good for doms management because they just get you moving. And nothing makes my doms worse than stillness. It's counterintuitive. I know you need to be still to recover. But if I'm like, gosh, my doms are debilitating, I'm still going to rest a lot. I'm not going to be, I'm going on an active rest.

hike, no. I'll do something like a little bit of stretching or a little bit of rolling or some light mobility. Honestly, I think the sauna is really good too. Take a walk, walk your dog. That is super light. It is movement, yes, but it is movement nonetheless, yes. I generally agree. Okay, guys, the next one is from Nesita 777. What got you into fitness of what age? Mine's pretty simple. It was basically that fitness test. I just didn't feel like super great about not being able to get into that. So I just started doing pull-ups. And after that, I explored other exercises and my neighbor growing up had like a bowflex.

So when I was like 16, I went down one summer and just hammered the bowflex. And I'm decent enough genetics that I was like, okay, this works. Yeah. Like this works. Saw some results and you're like addicted from then on out. Yeah. So I'd say 16, 17. And because I wanted to be able to be like, be like,

like my like the cool guys oh 100% yeah yeah mine uh i guess i could really got into it in college like in junior college um i was a baseball player and i had been like in the fall tryouts and things like that like made the team but was looking around and everyone was kind of like holding like six four like two 30 and i was a scrawny ass kid it weighed like 150 pounds like soaking wet so i ended up just like taking that year off like stayed with the team to practice but didn't play in any of the games and just like figured out what a calorie surplus was and just crushed the gym and I put on a lot of size to the point even my teammates wanted to start working out with me and then kind of naturally started studying kinesiology and just was like that in athletics was like the perfect marriage and kind of hooked me yeah yeah I was I was really active when I was like I don't even know six seven years old I'd run just go outside and be like I'm feeling anxious like a dog Oh, I don't know what it was. I just would run all the time.

It's called a Myers and Miles and Miles and Miles. Oh, yeah. Holden ran his first marathon at five years old. Yeah, I did. I did. I did. And yeah, I, you know, I've been, I was really competitive, played a lot of sports, kind of just involved in that side of things.

And I ain't really get into weightlifting until high school like most people. I played a little football and some of the guys in the team were just absolutely monsters. and I knew I had to put some size on because I was a string bean like super skinny high school kid and so yeah I got into lifting then and then you know

probably when college started it was like okay I'm gonna play baseball and I got a lift and even before okay before college now it's coming back to me I was 18 years old I got into the gym first year put on like 30 pounds of muscle

did nothing athletic and then I sucked at throwing a baseball the next year. So there's something there. Player sport. Don't just body build. I didn't train my legs for shit. Actually, I'm going to be a bodybuilder now.

Yeah. Oh, wait. Should have went that direction. I had better luck with that. The whole reason I did this. But yeah, and now I know how I got into it, but why I'm still doing it too.

You know, I'm so damn vain. I honestly can't lose. Yeah, I don't want to lose my gains. I don't want to lose my gains. And also, I guess I have a bit of myself. For more than myself. right now showing up for you know my kids my family my clients more energy throughout the day

and it's just it's very important so yeah my body also have like i have had those low back issues that like if i don't strength train and and keep things strong my body doesn't feel that great so like i'm not exactly getting older by by many people's estimations but i'm feeling my age way more with the stress and the lack of sleep and all the new things on my plate and staying strong helps me manage that. It's like a lot of it is vanity for sure, but it's definitely like a functional thing now. Last one's on grip strength from DC72. How to improve grip strength. I think I'll just recommend carries. I don't think most people do any carries in their program. I say that as somebody who doesn't do that many.

carries in my program. I don't love them. I'm not that good at them. My grip isn't that strong. And if I wanted my grip to be stronger, I will go right to the heavy carries I'm not doing. That's just my quick take on it. Yeah. I'm great for that. I think just picking up heavier things and moving them, it just means you're gripping it. Like, you don't have to go one rep max or nothing, but just picking up heavier things will, we'll do that. Heavy pull work. Yeah. Over time, too. That's why I do like, I mean, I know where fitness trends are kind of going. I still really enjoy the compound lifts and a lot of the free weights.

And I mean, even pulling on machines are going to be great for your forearms too. The basics, the classics. And those people are going to use straps now. And there's a great debate on, like, should I use straps on all my lifts?

Like, because it's going to help me hit the muscle I'm trying to hit. Like, specifically like your lats when you're pulling, you want your lats to fatigue before your grip. That's never going to happen because your lats are usually very strong. and like your grips, your forearm compartment and like bicep and flexor muscles, they're strong too.

They're just not as strong as your lats. So the grips are great. We recommend them for all of our clients, especially ladies who can like lunge in Romania deadlift a lot. Yeah, their grips tends to be like disproportionately weaker. So I think they're getting the most from straps. I'd say if you didn't want to be limited by your grip and your hypertrophy work and you just committed to doing heavy deadlifts and,

heavy carries and didn't strap it in for those you'd probably be solid to strap it in for everything else and you'd still have functional grip strength but you wouldn't be limited by your in your main hypertrophy things 100% you could do some maybe direct form work curls yeah that's true something else nobody different furl variations are great about but never executed yeah do you guys have any grip limitations ever uh like past certain weights yeah like one It's mostly what it is. Yeah, but... That most people should use the straps.

Eventually, eventually is Romanian deadlots. You have to stop the bar and come up. I can get away with... I can get away with the headlars. Yeah. No, I mean, I can get away with the deck barbell from the ground without straps most the time. But if you're not needing to use straps yet for an RDL, just keep getting stronger and

keep increasing the way a little bit because it's to the point where you use those your hamstrings are not strong enough yet. Yeah. Should be stronger than your hands. Yeah. Right, right. Well, just eliminate it all together. Like, that's what straps, like, does for me.

Because, like you said earlier, like, it does. It's going to fatigue quicker than the larger muscle grip your training. So use straps and go a little bit heavier and challenge yourself. Grip strength. And you do, if you want to wear straps, every lift that you do, so that you're not limited by your grip strength. And then you want to do a little bit of work for your grip. I love those plate carries, too, like 35, 45 pound plate carries.

I hear those are really good for grip. I swear my grip's gotten stronger like literally using straps and it's just because I'm picking up heavier things. That's like really all it is. Yeah. If you're like deadlifted 135 with straps and then you got to be able to deadlift like 405 with straps, your grip got better.

Definitely. Yeah, you have to pick up more weight. Let's finish it off before we move into sports. Our last little bit here kind of in fitness and nutrition. We're going to talk about this new study at a university college London. Holden brought this to my attention earlier in the week. We kind of dissected it a little bit.

I just want to give you guys the spark notes before we talked about it. It's an RCT, which is a high quality study. 55 adults were the people that were being studied. So we're not talking about children. We're talking about adults. All of them were overweight or obese, okay? That study was eight weeks long. I want you guys to know exactly what we're dealing with here.

None of us are fucking going to get the Nobel Prize for science, okay? but we're going to try to meet you where you're at so 55 overweight adults were studied for eight weeks and they were in two groups one of them got mostly minimally processed foods you can just think of this like homemade food the other group got ultra processed foods so that's like stuff that's packaged, snacks, microwaves. So imagine one group somebody's going to make them a homemade meal

and then the other person is going to get a frozen pizza, okay? But they're both going to get the same macros. Okay? And I think that really breaks down on especially things like salt, fiber, of course, protein, carbs, and fats

and then the calories. So this was... And calories are also equated. Calories are equated, so there's a turn. Everybody's eating the same. Yes, exactly. Iso-caloric. The main difference between these two groups is that one of them's getting home-cooked food

and the other ones are getting like packaged ultra-process foods. And the results, depending on, I think this is a great example of how science can be interpreted in both conventional media and on social media. The results were, to me, super unsurprising. They were reported as being either earth-shattering or groundbreaking or unbelievable. I saw all kinds of different coverage on this. You could spin this one however you wanted. But basically both of these groups lost weight.

The group that ate minimally processed foods lost more weight. But I don't think it's as cut and dry as like, oh, if you just eat clean, you're going to lose more weight. I have my opinion. Clearly it's about the calories. opinion holding what do you think is you took a good look at this yeah just as another win for calories being the culprit for being obese or being fatter or smaller um calories matter the most and it's the took two groups here they both did both diets they both lost weight and um i'd have to think that if this kept going on they would both continue to lose weight even though one group was

eating mostly ultra processed foods and i was looking the list of some of these foods and man it's really not that bad because the fiber is the same, the protein's the same, and the calories are the same, and that matters a lot. So the group that had the minimally processed foods sent less or sent more food back because that's what they did. They sent them these meals and delivered them. You sent back. And whatever you didn't eat was basically subtracted from your 2100 calories. Exactly. And of course, the minimally processed group and finished less of their food. Finish less because there was more food on the plate. There had to be more volume. And this is the thing like ultra-processed foods probably shouldn't eat like them only but there are some

caveats here i mean i look at this i look this sounds super cynical but i look at this like somebody would be like you lose this is how it was reported you lose twice as much weight when you eat minimally pounds of foods versus ultra-processed foods and i'm like okay yeah i can lose half as much weight eating fucking microwave shit was zero effort and still lose weight if the calories right right that is a horrible protocol, objectively awful. But it is very rare in life that the stupid protocol and the optimal protocol are only about half apart.

Like, oh, you want to take an incredibly stupid approach to weight loss where you eat only ultra-processed food that's not very good for you, only in packages, less nutritious than it should be, but the calories are there and you'll lose weight. Oh, yeah, sure. I think that was what the study was saying for like this kind of first time thing. the first time that we've had calories and macros equated and we've fed this group ultra-processed only and mentally processed and they both lost weight which that was really cool to see i mean it was obvious in the data that the estimated reduction in holden hit on this because they gave the food

back there was like 300 calories coming back every day from the group on the minimally processed food and only like 120 calories coming back from the ultra-processed food so they there was a gap and intake of like 180 calories. That's more than the half or 50% of weight loss. It's damn near. It's fucking right here. No, it's closer to like three times. When you see the spin on this and somebody says like, well, it's is so caloric, these

people lost twice as much weight. It's obviously the case that the minimally processed foods are superior. And I'd be like, perhaps, but only a little bit because they also ate less calories, which is why they lost more weight. And again, they eat less calories because there's more volume on the plate. That is still a win for the minimally processed food. But I just think it's interesting. You have to take into account minimally processed foods,

probably to have a higher thermic effect of food. It takes more to break them down. Minimally processed foods, you get more volume so you can eat more of them for fewer unit of calories. I would almost have thought they would have won by more if I didn't know what I know about calories. And like when I think about the fact that there's more calories missing from one group, there's a higher thermic effect of food in the other group.

One group lost 10 pounds. The other group lost five pounds. It was only eight weeks. I'm like, yeah, if they kept it going, it probably would have been something like 12 and then 8 and then 15 and then 11 and then 17 and 14. And then I don't know. I honestly think the longer you go on something like this, the more it starts to average out. I don't think you just get exponentially more fat loss.

mainly processed foods you should eat more of them they're probably better for your overall health they're definitely better for you for sure yeah but it's probably not very practical in this day and age where so many people are stressed out and have so much on their plate i know for me i'm a dad now you know i've got two kids wife at home we're on the run a lot we're on the move a lot we have a lot going on so i like to eat easy to grab and go foods and after looking at this study and seeing that like, oh, what do they determine are ultra-processed foods compared to the minimally processed? And I'm like, holy shit, like a protein shake, ultra-processed. This, like, flavored, this flavored yogurt ultra-processed.

You know, cheese, sour cream or tortilla, have that, like, every day. So, like, honestly, like 60, maybe 70% of my diet is probably ultra-processed. By the steady standards. But both of these groups. And you can tell you just by looking at it. Yes. Yeah. Both of these groups do what I kind of priority.

in my day-to-day. Both of these groups had the same amount of fiber. They had the protein. They tried to get these right. In my day-to-day, I'm trying to make sure I get enough fiber, get enough protein, and get enough water, and that helps with, like, so many different things. The problem with obesity in our country, isn't that people are overeating ultra-processed foods with fiber and protein in them, right? Bingo. Bingo. It's that they're eating the other ultra-processed foods. Yes. That has none of what you just mentioned. Like, no nutritional value, really. And I like to have a lot of nutritional value in my foods, obviously,

because I care about that kind of stuff. And I know it's, like, horrible to, like, like, you said before, just have, like, you know, a pizza, ice cream, cookies, cakes, all these baked goods, chips. These are all the things people eat. That's where the calories come from. A lot of saturated fat. But where do the nutrients come from?

Usually nowhere. Right. Yeah, the lesson is eat the ultra-process stuff with fiber and protein. Kind of, yes. And for practicality's sake, and like I hate to say it because I would never want to like overly vouch for ultra-processed foods because ultimately a mostly whole foods diet is linked to health in a variety of different ways, probably for a variety of different reasons. But like if you use way protein to increase your protein intake, even though it is classifiably ultra-processed because it went from milk to vanilla way protein isolate, it's way. way, way better choice for most people, in my opinion, than let's say another ultra-processed food like a twinkie. Categorically, they're both ultra-processed. But like, I would give a hundred people

out of a hundred away shake over a twinkie for, in like literally every reason imaginable, unless they had like lactose intolerance. Right. Most of my clients who come and see me, I'm like, how do they're like, how do I get my protein in? I'm like, hey, yeah, definitely like more lean meats, stuff of that, but you would really benefit off of a protein shake. And I tell my clients, I tell my clients that have ultra-processed foods. And I feel good about it because I know that it is a healthy decision that you can make. And there is no really signs of the negative health outcomes for having more protein. They're paying me to build muscle.

Not like, I want you to fucking odd short on my protein every day. What do I do? I want you to cook a fucking rib eye and beef tallow in the back of your car under George Foreman grill exactly to medium rare and eat it on a wooden cutting board and drizzle. raw honey on it and sprinkle Himalayan salt on top of it and eat it with your raw and shirtless in front of a ringlight while you subtly allude to white nationalism. But dude, it's crazy. I know, a little riff there, but, um, oh my God, dude, they have a wooden cutting board at least. Yeah, oh, you don't have any of those things? Just go to Costco and get a 30 pack of fair

lives and increase your protein intake by 40% in 12 seconds. That's why it's okay to recommend ultra processed foods. It's just, you know, it's okay to recommend ultra-processed foods. It just gives your clients a chance to easily fix a problem in that context. And you don't have to recommend any other ultra-processed foods. It's actually interesting to me that you say 70% because that's exactly fact-check it live. I'm not sure. If we chat GPT up, I'd love a live fact-check from somebody. I think 70% of American calories come from ultra-processed foods. 70% are saying. I think that's exactly the number that the average American's calorie intake If it's 3,000, 70% of those 3,000 are from ultra-processed foods.

Look, I can see a world. If you're in the same ratio, you are average, you also get 70%. Why do you look like that? Because the 70% of the processed foods you eat have protein and fucking fiber and nutrients, and that should tell everybody what is possible if you focus on the only shit that fucking matters. I get a lot of steps, too. Lifestyles. And I also eat a lot of fruits and vegetables.

And both of these groups in this study, both were offered fruits and vegetables. And they, I don't know if they ate them or sent them back, but probably a good idea to eat more fruits and vegetables. We need more of those. And I can see a world potentially, and this might sound crazy, where we have more ultra-processed foods and potentially less obese people. For sure, because we're going to have more GLP1 proliferation too. The next generation of GLP1s is going to be crazy.

is your 70 number, it's actually 55, but what's worse? That's way better. It is. Yay. Live fact checking my bullshit, but it's good. Until you realize what it is for kids and it's 62%. Well, that's still not 70%. No, it's not.

But it's depressing to me that parents are eating better than their kids. Why are you not at least eating the same? That makes a lot of sense to me. I think that kids naturally want to eat stupid kid foods that are bad for them. Maybe they're like factors in high school and you're not meals at home. Well, 7% of your, like, if the. average adult went from like 62 to 55 and the 7% swing was just because they could legally drink. That would make a lot of sense. Yeah, I don't eat trick cereal anymore. I'm an alcoholic.

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the cowboys he's requested a trade he's the best defensive player in my opinion he's the best defensive player in the nfl not named miles garrett you're gonna you're gonna i would t j watt like that yeah i think micha parsons is better than t j walt i think t j walt's been more consistent yeah for sure j walk it's hurt all the time so i just think Parker Parsons, though. I think they both are on great defensive ones. I think they are probably interchangeable, but if I had to pick one to build my defense around, I would pick Michael Parsons.

I think he's a freak. Michael Parsons' wingspan is crazy long. Yeah, they're both insanely disrupt. I would like to see comparatively to T.J. Watt, who has a longest wingspan? Because Micah Parsons' hands hang down to his calves. I do know one thing about T.J. Watt, and I don't want there to be any confusion. T.J. W. It's the same breakfast every year.

Do you know what it is? Oh, eats the same breakfast. Yes. Do you know what it is? I thought you're speaking to his consistency. No. Same breakfast every day. He strikes me as like an oatmeal and berries type of guy.

Yes. It's oatmeal. He's oatmeal. And you know what I thought when I read that? Because I was like, Jr. What? It's the same breakfast. Every day,

I'm like, bro, T.J.W. It's fucking Jack. I was like, what is it? Yeah. Oh, it's oatmeal. That makes sense. It's healthy food. You know what I thought about immediately when I read that? That fucking video of Dave

Aspray, I'm sorry, it's Aspray Or Aspray, whatever, either way it works Talking about Oxley's ass spray going Did you know The oatmeal is a peasant food? Have you seen this? Yeah. And I'm just like, I want T.J.

What the fucking just Just coming. What are you talking about, dude? This is the closest thing we have to a gladiator. He eats this every day. Who the fuck writes your tweets, dude? It's your tweets, dude.

Like, like, retire. Like, we, you send this man to alligator alcatraz. We're done with Dave Asprey. One of the worst takes. And his urine therapy and all that dumb shit, don't Google Dave Asprey urine therapy. But if Michael Parsons were to get traded. If he were to get traded. I don't think he is.

To it. I don't think he is either. But I also feel like he might. I think Jerry Jones is seen. I hate Jerry Jones. has lost Dallas won't go anywhere until that changes over, in my opinion.

Like, Jerry Jones is out of touch now with the modern NFL. I think he would be dumb enough to consider trading him. Yeah, I could see like a Luca situation. Like, remember that manager was like, or the GM for Dallas was like, I mean, if I could happen in Dallas too,

so maybe he'll be dumb enough to. You can't see another Dallas team trading in their best way. Where do you see him going? If he moves, yeah. I know where I see him going. That's why I'm not going to say the Rams, but I could do it. The Rams would definitely trade a first round pick for, but, and more. Dude, I know where he wants to go.

Or I know where I want him to go, actually. Yeah, the Raiders. That'd be cool if he went to the Raiders. But they do have a need. What if he goes to a team like the Eagles or something? He is from Pennsylvania. But an Indian interdivisional trade like that, you can't. If Jerry Jones, that is the senility test.

If he trades into Philly, he, Officially is We in Sanctuary and all. Yeah. Yeah. Because like you cannot trade your best player to your arts rival to then have them antagonize you.

But dude, if you look at the odds, Philly's one of the top teams. So are the Raiders. They have hell of draft picks. They already have a ton of edge rushers. They can trade. They're so deep at that position.

They could move on from a good player they have and trade a pick and get Micah. But like I think it would be an AFC team. I think they would be smart to trade them to an AFC team. I sent them to the car. I feel like they have the kind of need there. They could trade you a million things and give him, make him the highest-paid player.

That one, like, from a logistical standpoint, I think makes the most sense. But I don't know. Whoever gets, if he does get traded, he will want to be the highest-paid defensive player in football. Who is right now? Miles Garrett, $40 million per year. Yeah. To me, you're not making quite that because I don't think you're Miles Garrett good.

Nobody's Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett is, have you seen that dude, hoop? Yes, he's incredible. Oh, dude. I would like. I would like to see I would like to see Micah Parsons get traded.

Oh my God. I didn't realize Patriots were like second favorite. TJ and Watt has a longer wingspan than Michael Parsons. Oh shit. Well, it's because he eats oatmeal. Yeah.

The fiber clearly holding. Yeah, he's definitely who is longer. Micah Parsons or T.J. You know, speaking of oatmeal, okay, there is this Kenyan runner. Okay.

who has broke many different marathon, or I don't know. Long distance record. Long distance. A marathon runner. And the food he eats before race days is oatmeal. Peasant. Peasant food. Dave Asprey signature quote.

I'm like literally going to go buy oatmeal on my way home so I'm going to have like two bowls a day. Okay, six foot seven wing span for T.J. No, no, no, no, six point nine inch wingspan. No, the six feet, six seven, six seven, six one six nine. Oh, six point six. nine inches is tiny but dude 6.9 it's nothing

6.7 he's like a zero path deflections he's looking like JD bands from the South Park episode it's right to bat it down it's six point nine inch it's coming off the edge little

ant man but yeah long arms you tear people up because they can't reach you first that's fair and that is a huge advantage of the d ant is long arms anyways yes those are both great players my team that i would want him to go to because i think it would put them over the top is denver i think the denver defense is exceptional as it is i think they're very slept on i think they have the best corner in football i like patrick satan i think jade

baron was the best corner in this draft i don't think anybody cared about him by the time the draft started adding some more talent to that defense and he fell to them at 20 and they're going to be able to play him anywhere they feel like because they have added two thumpers in their defense. Yeah, Dray Greenlaw, I know. So sad to see both of them go. They brought a lot of attitude. And they have amazing guys up front already coming off the edge. They have Nick Benito.

They're young, too. It was very, very good. And I cannot. Zach Allen. Zach Allen, I think they just locked up again. One of the best defensive tackles in the league. I think he, speaking of the Watts, I'm pretty sure he's a JJ Watt. It's a long-term deal.

If you added Michael Parsons on the other side of Nick Benito to that defense. Oh, dude, Benito had a nice end of the season last year. That is a team that could make a run because I think Sean Payton can coach them. They made the playoffs last year. They made the playoffs, but the AFC is so tough. And I think knowing, knowing I have to get past Josh Allen,

Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow. Lamar. Lamar Jackson. Justin Herbert, maybe Trevor Lawrence, maybe Drake May, like they're maybe, maybe, maybe. These are, maybe C.J. Stroud, who by the way, was very good in his rookie year and could totally bounce back. I could see him. Like, there are a litany of great quarterbacks in the AFC. I need to get after the fucking passer.

And like, I would do. Offenses are more electric now. You got to try to stop it and how you do it is give a quarterback no time. You got Michael Parsons in Denver and said, excuse me, sir, can you do what Vaughn Miller did? he would say absolutely let's go win a Super Bowl. That's my hot take. The first running back selected in 2025 draft had negative one yards last night. I'm so sorry, bro.

I'm sorry to watch. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Ashton, Janty, what's going on, buddy? It's the O-line. He watched those three carries. He was dodging people six yards deep as soon as he touched it. They had guys in the back field.

Yeah. You could tell Seattle was like, let's just get the race. Is that our starting O line that went out? I believe so. I hope not. I'm going to say that. I think it was. You had a really motivated second team on the defensive line who wants to make the squad.

And that's what it was. Playing at home. I'll say this. If the Raiders continue to play their starters in the preseason and they continue to look bad, then I think reasonably people will be out on the Raiders in fantasy. People will be out on the Raiders as potentially being a dark horse. because the whole thing was built on this idea that Gino Smith in the running game was going to be better

and able to keep up with the rest of the conference that's really good you have to compete against probably the best division in football some good defenses too like we already talked about then you have the four best quarterbacks in football in your conference right yeah it's going to be a tough year I think that's fucking crazy unfortunately yeah that's brutal so it's just to rise into the top seven you have to be special.

And if you're unable to get yards against these second team defenses, I think people will rightfully lose the hype and it'll probably be waiting for a quarterback in the upcoming draft or the year after because that's just how the league works. Yeah. You're either good enough to win the Super Bowl or you're waiting for a quarterback.

I saw this like rumor today that Archie Manning, Arch Manning's grandfather was saying that like there's a decent chance he does not come. Yeah, a lot of people don't think he's going to come. So there's a few scenarios in which archmanning comes out one of them and I saw some dude commenting like what's this fine we'll take next year too you can't take twice in a row but unless you're the jaguars right right but like that to me is smart if you're archmanning and you're a junior and you know that you'll probably be the top quarterback taken in the draft it would take

something really special from somebody else to unseat him or he just doesn't live up to the potential. Potentially. I think he could have a mediocre season and still go number one and still be the top pick because of his age and the ability to polish him up. I really do. Caleb Williams Tray Lance was supposed to be that too. Caleb Williams' best season was not the season he was drafted. It was a season before that. He regressed. And I think people saw enough from Arch Manning in his sophomore year to be like, yeah, he has everything you could possibly want. He's mobile. He has great armed talent and he's 20. and like he will get better

and he has the tools but I think he's I think the family is smart I think there are a handful of teams that if they have the number one pick or are willing to move up to get that pick he will come out

if it's fucking the team if it's the Cleveland Brown he's going back to school you remember what Eli did yes he had a his he fit so it runs the family possibly well I mean I think it's smart like look at the Falcons go

117 and the Rams have the Falcons pick And Sean McVeigh is sitting at number one overall. Arch Manning is not going to fucking go back and get his degree, buddy. He's coming out. Yeah. I guarantee it. I guarantee it. There are some teams that, in some situations, that teams players want to play for,

and quarterbacks know they need to be dropped in the right ecosystem. And there was a Sports Illustrated, like, article I read six months ago, the top two teams that GMs and scouts thought or voted for, that they would want a non, you know, generic quarterback prospect to get dropped into. It was the Rams and the Steelers and by a lot. Followed by the teams you would expect, like the Packers, the Niners,

teams with good offensive players. The culture. The play calling, good offensive schemes. But like the Sean McVeigh, Mike Tomlin, stability, nurturing. I will not let you fail. There's just something about, if you could go to an organization or a coach like that,

you should come out. Well, it's like business, but it's like family at the same time. Like, I think he'll come out if the right team has the top pick. If not, I think he stays and takes another shot, but that could backfire. Micah Parsons isn't going anywhere. Is that we're talking about? No, but he's got an 88% chance to stay put on Cal sheet. I think Jerry Jones is crazy enough to trade him.

I think he is too. Was Calio Mac going anywhere? Shouldn't have. Yeah, exactly. And it didn't take the, and it didn't take moving heaven and earth to get Kaleo Mack, it took, I think, two first round picks. And I think if somebody said they'll give you two first round picks for Michael Parsons, I think Jerry Jones would take it because he's crazy.

So it took Henry Ruggs and... You cannot trade Henry. You cannot trade somebody who's actively incarcerated. I think he officially got released. They do that all the time. Because they traded Cleo Mac. No, you can trade Henry Ruggs for like somebody who... They had two first round picks after this trade.

Okay. And I believe one of them was Henry Ruggs. Oh, my God. You're talking about... And I think the other one was like Amory Cooper or something. No, Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs.

That was that... Both gone. Gone. Who else did the Raiders draft? Darius Hayward Bay is the most notable. Trayvorn Barrett, maybe. He was the first round. No, DeMont Arnette.

The one who had the... Domain Arnette, who had like a 10th round draft grade on him because he had like unspeakably bad off the field issues. And he got drafted hell high. It was like immediately arrested. right yeah he like flashed a gun we are not lawyers or liable for anything we say did or did not exactly quite maybe happen to these guys so we do apologize if you didn't nail that demand but oh well uh all right also uh MLB award predictions I think

for Cy Young it's going to be a scubel scubal yeah there's one other guy he I can't remember oh there's crochet from the Red Sox yeah they're both just like lefty slingers Left these hangers. Scoot balls statistics are insane. Yeah, I think he pitches today I saw. He cannot be hit. Right. It was a hundred has a nasty slider.

It's absolutely insane. And he's a little bit psychotic too, which makes like a perfect blend of a pitcher. I think the ALMVP will be. Dude, this one is the one. Big Dumber? Yeah. I just don't know how much time Aaron Judge missed because he was off to a tear. Been waiting to say Big Dumpur.

Cal Raleigh. Big Dumber is going to lead in the league in bombs. He's going to hit 60 bombs as a catcher. Come on. Dude, that's insane. same 60 home runs from your catcher man that's that helps a big dumper jersey if he leads a league and i have a question i'm not i don't know baseball like that is he a good catcher i actually haven't seen him there's different styles of catching now like you definitely have the

defensive catchers are important catcher is probably the one position that like if you can just flat out ball defensively you'll look the other way offensively it doesn't matter nowhere no other position does they they have that but if you hit like fourth three or four or four in the middle of a lineup and you're a catcher, you probably fucking rake. Yeah, but if you can frame pitches as a catcher at a high elite rate, you can steal multiple outs per season. It's changed the game. I don't know who.

You want a gold glove last season. Okay. He leads catchers and caught stealing. Oh, that's so shit. And he ranks them on the leaders in pits framing and defensive runs. Oh, yeah, he's sick. That's the stat. Defensive runs.

Okay, so yeah, Cal Raleigh. That might be the front runner for your MVP. I'm like, that's sick as fuck. Give him the storybook year. On the homerunned derby. Home run king crown. Otani wins the MVP in 24 because he hits bombs and steals bases. He's going to win it in 25 because he hits bombs and he's pitching like an insane person again.

If you're hitting 55 to 60 bombs and framing pitches like that, you're hosing every guy who's stealing no pass balls, you have these high defensive. statistics. It's not a dual sport thing, but your offensive and defensive implications are massive. That's huge. That's solid. I mean, it's not also, like, lost on me the position that is catcher and, like, the season he's having that is, like, that impressive. Like, he is, like, literally in the squat, catching all the pitches.

Yes. Like, no other position is having to work like that. And then to, like, stay locked in and stay focused and stuff like that. Has to be the hardest position. Like, literally, like, I mean, you're a pitcher, right? Catcher usually kind of controls you guys. to some extent. You know,

it keeps you focused. I mean, yeah, both pitchers and catchers and call a game. But yeah, they know they don't call the stuff

is what I'm saying, right? Yeah, they do. So like, there's a lot that goes in to being a catcher.

Yeah, it's an impressive season. How are the Mariners cumulative pitching statistics? Because one thing, one thing that was very true of Buster Posey when the Giants were at their peak

in a Viotty or Molina when he was at his peak, they didn't have the hardware to show for it in St. Louis. But like, the cumulative ERA was, phenomenal. The pitching statistics, the bullpen was phenomenal. Having a good catcher

elevates your pitching staff. And there was something interesting though. I remember Benji Molina used to actually catch Tim Linzicum until he retired. Those would be the days where Buster Posey would play for his face because sometimes you just have a relationship with a catcher. And that matters. Mariners are like the top half of the league. I have a guy I play with the guy I played with in college. I still play. I was pitching him two weeks ago. I think he's great.

It helps. He frames everything so nice. And when you have a sinking fastball or a lot of movement on your pitches and you can just see the difference and tell the difference. And he's a bigger catcher, kind of like throw into a bigger catcher.

That probably helps, right? And, you know, it's like he knows what I'm going to throw. He, you know, it's like those things matter a lot. Yeah, just having a feel for the game at the end of the day, right? You guys paying any attention? attention as we pivot here into culture to the stock market at all?

I noticed that it just continues to rip. Are you buying anything? Are you holding cash? Are you looking at any stocks? Yeah. Alternatives. I'm keeping the typical... Yeah, the S&P 500.

Each month, I'm, you know, still... S&P. Yeah, S&P, NVIDIA, still, I think... I have the tech is going to be smart. And I just continue to sit here with my zero NVIDIA, like, Well, yeah, and now- I've been, you guys. I tell myself every day.

Keeping us all going. Yeah. I won't buy any, though. It's too expensive. Man, I love it, but. Well, yeah, I bought a lot of stuff in the dip, and it's done really well. But again, it's frothy. It's inflated a little bit right now, but it's gripping still.

Grip and rid, baby. I honestly do not fully understand why it's so sanguine. Like, I do think that as these tear of things come in, like, it will get worse. I thought that Trump firing. I don't think the market's buying anymore, man. They're just like, he's bluffing. Don't listen to him. I think that in.

Put the old man back in the home. I kind of agree, but I feel like in a way that is buying it. Like, no way. He's full of shit. He would never do anything that crazy. Even though he has a history of doing things that are very crazy after you say he would never do that. And like the tariffs did just kick in.

Yeah. August 6th. The day has coming on. We have like, really. high tariffs now in Canada. They went up. They're here. Now we'll see. Do they piss people off? Do they make shit cost more? The jig is up. Well, I've noticed he's like less frequent with him now. Remember in like the first couple months where he was just like slinging them like hot cakes? Well, he had a one day, like drop of a tariff on every country that upset the economy. Yeah, even though, even those fucking penguins, right?

And then he paused for like 30 days and the market rip bag. Yeah, the whole taco thing. Yes. And that's where this started. But he's had like more distract. now, right? Like the obscene thing wasn't what it is. So how much of this is also just like he's not paying as much attention to those numbers and just like letting whoever handle like more so. But yeah, I understand your point. I think he says the numbers he likes on those things. But I. No, please tell me you saw that chart that he came out with. The chart on that day? No, no, no. Like recently it was about the job numbers one. Oh, when he said that he goes to his desk and he goes, let me show you this chart. And he holds up this chart and doesn't say what it's of he goes yeah

look at those numbers it's amazing we need to find that really there's no way I need to say it's a random label on it it's not it's just a it was just a see you guys to the moon

it's just a fucking arrow just a random arrow oh my god buy rip fucking get as much as you can buy the fucking giz coin buy the shit coin guys it's to the

moon. That's what's crazy is there's so much optimism because of AI. I think it drowns out all of the stupidity. Like we're all sitting here. Is there a lot of optimism? I think there's a lot of for for a few companies. I think like if you look at the stock market like I think what we're making like don't get about consumers. We're talking about the markets. I'm not talking about how you guys feel about the economy like how he's not even paying attention. Okay that's Jason Mamoa. There's an ad. Chief of War. I heard about it.

I hear that chief of war was really bad. I'm not a huge fan of Jason Mamo. Jason Mamoa choked out a shark at the beginning. That's all you really know about not watching that movie. Very realistic. Yeah, this is hilarious. Just the look at where it was and then to the moon.

Yeah. I think the market's stoked on AI because the mag seven, the big seven companies, including Nvidia, are just ripping. because they're making more money and they're growing but the rest of the economy is just doing what it does and I think those jobs numbers

are interesting and we'll just have to kind of see where they go pivoting into some more stuff on culture we have something here on gin outfits we talked about this

in the gym the other day what was your thought on these gym outfits because it's in the notes I didn't put it in the notes I put it in the notes because that conversation we had in the gym the other day with Hilda. I'm going to speak I okay all right

I'm going to speak you know exactly what this is about one of my clients who is a woman made a comment in the gym to that I have heard so many times and I'm not I'm just going to say what she said you're quoting I'm not I'm going to put it out there I actually don't I don't agree with this take I've heard it so much I do hear it more from people who are 40 plus she said that these girls know exactly what they're doing when they dress the way they dress at the gym wearing the clothes that they wear and they shouldn't complain

when they are predated on by older, annoying, creepy men. They should just deal with it because that's how they dressed. And so they're asking for it is what she said. I find that to be so tired and just so lazy. It is lazy. It is just like, bro.

Old men, They just don't care sometimes. Old men and it's kind of bad. And it's like, it's not the clothes. No, it's just in general. It's not just old men. No. But there's just like, there is sometimes where it's like, dude, it doesn't matter what

you're wearing. I worked in a corporate gym's a long time, man. There are guys who will not, who will just don't get the cues. They approach women all the time and make them really uncomfortable. And gyms can't do much about it. If number one, of course, they're not good looking. Okay, potentially, potentially. But like, I think a lot of that's old guy stuff, it's like, yeah, I don't want an old creepy guy looking at me.

But I do want attention from younger men, maybe. And to each their own, if you want that, that's okay. I mean, that's a reasonable point that, like. There's a possibility that that's also an avenue. Of the person who's interacting with me is going to influence how I respond. Yeah, I mean, it's flirting versus being creepy at that point. I don't always blame the outfit for like the weird guy part. Like I do think that's such a cop out for the weird guy.

It's like those guys would do that same thing in a different setting to a woman that they were attracted to. No matter what her outfit did if they didn't have the social cues and they didn't understand when somebody was saying like, hey, I don't want to be approached. I'm not taking on my headphone. I'm not taking, I'm putting my hat down. My body language and face do not. they clearly don't communicate that I want to talk to you. That stuff happens all the time all over the place. And so it's like, yeah, you know,

sometimes maybe these outfits are a little bit more than people's typical, whatever. Men do this all the fucking time, no matter what. I have the gym in the workplace a lot. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely a great debate. And like you could see easily argue like either side. Like, you know, girl matching, matching set, she's excited about it, wants to wear it full face of makeup it's like a 6 a.m. lift it's like at what point was that

necessary i guess uh again not making the excuse for any guy to be creep because like it's already hard enough being a woman in a gym what's extremely male dominated space the gym will do nothing to help you no tell you that right now like having well you can't get a comfortable workout either when you're worried about who's looking you know i mean i would i would probably if i go to a gym I'm going to make sure I look good. Yeah. I'm going to make sure I'm wearing stuff that I feel really good and I feel confident. And that's just,

that's probably an avenue that they're taken to the way. That's a very reasonable way. It makes them feel good. And like maybe that's all it really is. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. I mean,

that's a good point, it improves perform it. And that's just coming from a guy's perspective where look, guys want to look good and that's universal. Yeah, yeah, it's a human thing. That's not man versus woman. And across genders. Yeah.

And the point you made to, you know, know guys, you know, they're doing this all the time. That's why they, um, HR was, uh, was invented. Yeah, but like, like that's, that's, that's, so if you're at a gym, you're right, human relations exists, but like if you're, let's say this, this is my experience. Having man, having worked in the actual management side of this, I know Matt, you've worked in management at gyms, but like when it's so different when like, because this does happen. Like, I can think about at least three times somebody at a gym that I,

worked at was fired for making inappropriate sexual comments to a female on staff almost always no every time those comments would have been made when the person was wearing the in the fucking uniform yeah it wouldn't have mattered it wouldn't matter what they were wearing at that point it's the power dynamic was such that inside of the gym the attraction is already the guy said something inappropriate and and that's the context you're talking about where HR would show up and be like hey buddy you're fired dude he said the dumbest thing don't

don't do an incline chest press like that's one of the things we are not going to talk about anything that was said by anyone ever on this part we go again you're referencing something that happens we have all work together in a

in a context holding clearly remember some specific details that did not result in a termination No, it didn't. But no one really said anything. She felt comfortable. Multiple people had been fired from the facility in question for these things because

HR will come in and it will do that. But it won't do that for a member at a gym, which is what's relevant for the people here. Like if there's people who are employed by the gym that are predating on their employees, like a manager is saying something to a trainer that makes her uncomfortable, that girl has protections because she works for the gym. If you're a member at the gym being harassed by another member, bro, the fucking HR department at the gym, all they're going to do is help the manager tell the usually woman,

sorry, there's nothing I can do. And they go to HR and they're like, hey, we have a member who said like, you know, she's being in the chase all over the place. Membership gets revoked. End of story. No, they can't always revoke a membership. Terminating someone's gym membership is not easy to do at a corporate gym.

This stuff flies way more frequently at a 24-hour, at a planet, at a L.A., then at a private gym. If you did that at a gym, we own, we could just terminate your membership because we probably have a contract that makes it really easy. And, like, most gyms do probably have, like, an all-cause termination policy. We could terminate you for any reason, anytime, whenever we want. It isn't easy. I remember it being explicitly difficult, like, having to pull guys into the office. this, it would take two managers, one to watch one of us.

Hey, a member approach us. They said you made her feel uncomfortable. You cannot do this. You put a note in your membership. Dude, I literally was just saying, what's up to her life? It's her word versus you need a goddamn lawyer to make this shit. It's very difficult to get rid of those people. It's happened to my wife at a gym.

And the gentleman who did it was an adult man who had a developmental disability. So it made the filter very difficult because, you know, I'm telling my wife, need to be sympathetic to this person because yes he is an adult man but there's some things here that are unique can you tell him it makes you feel uncomfortable that he follows you around and she wouldn't do that because a lot of women don't want to approach somebody who makes them feel uncomfortable in the gym so what do you do you go to the manager they're not going to terminate this person's membership because they make you feel uncomfortable the only way they're going to do it in most cases is if they cross the line

And that is a very legitimate fear for, I think, a lot of these chicks are like, I have this creep at the gym who knows better than to cross the line, but knows exactly where the fucking line is. And he's going to follow my ass around. He's going to look at me when I get anywhere near my headphone. And there's guys who stay at the gym for fucking hours and do this. You boys know the guys I'm talking about. We all worked in these gyms. No one works out for four hours, brother. You're not there training.

You damn shouldn't be. You're waiting for somebody. Yeah. You're sketching. I don't love any of it. Yeah, I know. There's a lot of that going on. So GPT-5s out.

Has anybody used it? No, not yet. Chad, G-P-T-5. Just came out this morning. I haven't used it. Yeah, I haven't really used it either. But apparently it's amazing. And the image generation is exceptional.

And it's going to be like a deep. This is just like amazing for memes, mostly, right? Yeah, great for memes. But deep face. Like, deep face are worrisome. I'm worried about that. I'm worried about. that like we're getting better at being able to fake people out like people are being faked out now and

it's like obvious bull gpd5 is one of those things that has potential now to cause tremendous problems if and this is just my opinion if it's in the hands of the wrong people well even chat gpg now obviously because they couldn't give you well gpt5 is chat gp hallucinating this is chat gpc lucid this is chat GDP 5.0. Whatever you have and you pay for, the chat GPT we used just got better today. The new version just came out. Yeah, we just talked about this because when we

ask them like questions what have to do with like our profession and stuff and you know, it's like, wait a second, that's not right. Reduction and errors from three to four. Okay, that's great. And another 45% error reduction from four to five. Great. So it's now over 100% more accurate than it was when it was chat GPT. All fucking ready. That's what

I'm saying. That's the crazy shit. It's not been long enough that I'm not scared. It's just like, dude, it's starting to worry me. I'm able to use it to make my life better, which I think is great. But you all saw that Hunter Biden clip where he talks about the fucking McDonald's. You saw this clip, right? I don't think I saw it. You saw this clip?

This is not him coming on hinge of the interview. You guys haven't seen this clip where Hunter Biden talks about McDonald's? No. Okay, we'll play this clip. But basically, Hunter Biden is going to talk about McDonald's and how he knows. a guy who owns like 55 McDonald's and he takes the 55 McDonald's that he has and he

has 60 employees at each one and he brings him from 60 employees down to 5 by spending almost $2 million on AI to automate each one and it increases his margins by 27% so we'll make his money back in 18 months

so rich get richer poor get more fucked same shit on a different scale like if you are paying any attention at all We just talked about the markets. Where is all the growth in the market coming from? The magnificent seven, the big seven companies. Meta, Google, obviously Nvidia, Apple, Microsoft.

But Nvidia and Microsoft are really crushing because of the AI upside. Invidia's got the chips, and Microsoft's one of the only players in ChatGPT. I've ChatGPT was IPO tomorrow and dropped the ticker, and it was GPT. That stock would explode. It would be huge. I think within weeks it would become one of the magnificent seven. Okay.

I really do. Like, I think chat GPT is massive. I think that maybe I'm stupid, but I really think people use it like crazy. And right now people think like, yo, AI language models are the future.

But there's also all these ways AI are showing up in the workforce. And if millions of people at fast food restaurants start losing their jobs and they're replaced by AI to Holden's point, that wealth is going to accumulate in people who own stock,

of the mag seven people who own stock in these companies people who own these franchises a considerable amount of stock yeah like somebody like me like shareholder level shit yeah you don't have to share your details but yeah like nobody here's fucking multi-millionaire like we're doing fine but we will accumulate a small amount of those gains and the people who are disproportionately wealthy will aggregate tons of those tons of and if they if think about this the market is ripping because there's optimism that all of these corporations are going to find ways to find margins like that in their business. What can I do to find these kind of margins in my business?

And at some point, we're going to reach, I think, a point where a lot of people lose their jobs, like millions of people. I think the irony surrounding all of that is they're also using Chad GPT to tell them how they can replace workers with Chad GPT. Yes, I mean, a lot of the, like, how can I use AI to automate my business? and make more money is being worked on with an AI language model. And there's probably a lot of unintended consequences of switching to AI. How much does the stock market relate to the economy overall? Not that much. That's the point that you kind of alluded to earlier when you were like,

wait a minute, but we're just talking about the stock market. Like the economy itself is like there's the lived economy, which is like what did it cost for me to order these fucking McDonald's red dye autism bombs that I got sent over here? I got some door dashed 110 calorie slurpees from McDonald's and, like, they're full of red dye, whatever. But it costs like 20 bucks to get four of those door dashed. At some point, you feel like, oh, that was too much. Like, God, everything's so fucking expensive.

Yeah. And I think a lot of people feel that. And so, like, a lot of people are like, the economy's ass. Right. Let me give me my goddamn hash browns this morning. Oh, dude, that's travesty. This was on... When you were hash browns, I don't see, I'm sorry.

It's fucking weird because I said it when I was in the car. I was there. This is crazy. He has a witness. I was driving. He was my passenger. Can I get an egg white grill and a hash brown please? Okay.

And I got... This is how you would know. I'll get a sandwich. No hash brown. No, for me. Like confirming that he got one. So you get to the window. He asks for one.

This is incredible. This is such. body shaming. This is so bad because it's like we roll down the window, she hands the bag out. You guys don't need this. And she goes like, oh, there's no hash brown in here. You didn't order one on the receipt. I know.

I mean, what we did though. Like, it's weird that it didn't get on there. Kind of like expecting. Like, can you please go get it? It's fucking in the box. Stop. Yeah. Like, I know it's in the box.

She goes, throw the hat. Oh, but you guys look so skinny. you don't need it. You swear to God. I swear to God. And I was like, it's a half of fucking potato. Okay.

It's deep fried in 6,700 calories. This is America. I want a fast food. It's a 300 calorie. God damn. 40 calorie half potato. You don't eat it. Look,

I just fucking hit legs. I mean, you are not the arbiter of my macros. Please give me my. Dude, that was crazy. I'm surprised you didn't throw it in them. That was weird.

It's kind of their policy. So I was also, I was surprised. They normally, like, bend over backwards for you there. They do. This podcast is brought to you by LMNT Electrolites. So many sports drinks are loaded with calories you probably don't need, when what you really need are important minerals like sodium, potassium, magnesium. Mineral-based electrolytes like LM&T are better for anybody looking to manage their weight

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like it. You literally get it for free if you don't like it. So just fucking try it. Support the show. All right guys. Moving on to the reaction segment. I have some fire videos here for us to live react to you. A fucking nutrition question. A fucking nutrition question. her her fucking thing is Texas mom yeah that is her that is her uh big her education of these yeah Texas mom and stuff I like yeah I immediately like just disregarded everything she had to say after enzymes and stuff not the Fox News is where you should be going to get your nutrition information but what it says a lot about where the nutrition discourses in the country right we're talking to moms arbitrarily about their opinion on soda sweeteners.

And this isn't to dig at mothers. A lot of moms are the principal nutrition provider and the only nutritionally literate person in their household. But like, I don't want to interview someone whose qualifications are that they had children when I need to know about the fucking macronutrient composition of the shit I'm putting in my body. I'd like your qualifications to be that you fucking understand nutrition. And it's like, honestly, this shit, I think, is just getting crazy at this thing.

She's like, I would never drink this stuff. But it's way better for you with the cane sugar opposed to the high fructose corn syrup. Your body doesn't recognize the high fructose corn syrup. It doesn't? Let's say pass right on through. It's like, oh, I didn't see it there. I didn't notice. Or am I just storing up a sack of poison in my life somewhere?

It sure as fuck recognizes it. It's fructose people. Come on. Yo, this one I thought was hilarious. Oh, okay. Let's get it. Why does the Lamborghini? Because there are only a

they put their mind and they focus on something So This is like pro-manifestation Dude, I actually saw this on Instagram, this guy That was pretty rough. Gino the ghost. Oh, he tore that at.

Oh, it was so funny. He's like, wait till she hears about a bicycle. And then he's like, yeah, you know, Rosa Parks, when she got out of her fucking Lamborghini and walked on that bus, you know. I thought it was. Oh, shit. Okay, that was good. I just saw, I had, you guys see that.

Oh, okay. This is my boy. This is my boy. Oh, fuck. Whoever this kid's parents are. straight to hell this is probably rich everyone thinks

oils are great for your health oh shit they're not he's doing the he's imitating the shirtless guy you know what I'm talking about Paul that guy that fucking kill on your test

you know what I'm talking about this kid is now imitating that guy Look, this is how I know that this is, like, becoming very cultish with this seed oil shit. Because out of all this stuff in the Oreo, how it's like three cookies are like 250 calories, right? And we're going to pick this one ingredient out. That's perfectly fine. The seed oils. It's like, no, it's the fucking calories and the hyper palatibility of the cookies.

Because I can eat the whole sleeve of that shit if I really try. And not be obese. I'm watching a like 14-year-old going and just literally reenacting the content of. of other adult men who he looks up to. Yeah. And what I'm seeing, I'm not like it. I'm not like it.

It's kind of a groomer situation. A little bit. 13 year old, 14 year old kid talking about tests. What are you doing with that test? You don't even have it yet. Don't worry about your test. Yeah.

Worried about your fucking math test, bro. Yeah. Oh my God. It makes me hell of sad, bro. It is a little sad. I was not worried about my testosterone when I was fucking 14. That's a thing. Right, right.

That's the tough thing. This is so, bro, kids are wrecked. If you care about your test that much. Why do you talk? Why do you speak up about misinformation in the fitness industry? Why don't you just take steroids and make as much money as possible? That's it. Get your nut.

I don't know because there's fucking, Mr. Mackey. There's kids like this that are just, that's sad, man. I know. That to me is sad. Because that kids are going to grow up one day and be like, oh, yeah, that was that time in my life where I pretended to be adult men on social media who, didn't eat vegetables because they wanted to make money selling supplements and he's just

like telling people Oreos are bad when everybody already knows that but he's getting he's getting kickback money for the seed oil scout rap but it's just this is a minor that's a thing bro this is crazy come on I did see this this was wild

man like to win an NBA championship and have no reaction and then just have a horse it just shows you how like insanely talented he is he's playing the sport at the highest level doesn't give a fuck and is literally the best player in the world i know and he the basketball is too easy for him but it's insane he was well this is him at work right yes that's true that is true that's just him at work but that's a fair way to look at it actually i mean athletes are definitely people too he reminds me

of a guy he reminds you guys there shouldn't be oh all right let's box it Oh, man. Dude, there's... He's got to be Joe. Do you like Coca-Cola? Go to drink coconut. Hey, double. He's drunk.

I love this guy. He's so funny. He's drunk. He's drunk. You know that? Well, I really don't. I didn't watch anything past the Coca-Cola thing. But, like, that is exactly why I thought it was relevant to bring it up because...

that's just a bad look the Coca-Cola that you drink is a as a form of political allegiance and if you don't fucking believe me there's what the fuck was that there's your video yeah we need to be less divisive and we need to bring people together yeah and now we've done the complete opposite behave like that yeah yeah but that's that that that's why that's probably just a drunk guy oh man boy oh and again oh not again I'm sorry this one I do have a pretty simple solution too he goes okay um yeah you don't have test um it's really normal when you're that young to not be drinking partying or having sex and you're like you're like you're fitting in perfectly fine buddy i think yeah i think yeah i think

think it's super normal. I just think this is like fucking I didn't know I put two of them in here but like God it's clickbait have you seen that when Bert Kreischer talked about this kid oh my okay like where are the parents man they had they had some kid guy go do a document they're probably behind the camera bro remember honey boo boo yeah they're in on it okay we're close it out guys what do you have to share as we kind of close it out do you have anything you want to talk about, any closing segment stuff? I was going to talk about Wild Robot for a quick second.

It's a great movie. Really good cartoon flick and especially good for, I think, new dads. It really resonated with me about this robot that came down to Earth somehow. I really don't know how. And he adopts a goose to take under his wing and teaches this thing how to

teach us, you know, makes this goose really confident and what it can do, teaches this goose life and how to fit in with his friends. And he goes on this adventure. Anyways, this wild robot adopts, he's a robot. So he really knows nothing. But he finds a kind of like a human, a human side to things and a nurturing side to things

and a parenting thing and a place to fit in in this big community of animals. And it's a really good flick, you got to watch it. And I was really moved after I. It got like a double 98 on. Rotten Tomatoes. It is scored unbelievably high. I started it.

Watch it like three times. Holy shit. It's your favorite movie of all time. It's clearly good. No, that's Braveheart. Gladiator. Yeah, I've watched those movies like 30 times. Matt, what do you have?

I'm honestly looking at what happened with that head of labor statistics that randomly got canned, just because Homeboy didn't like the numbers she came up with. She adjusted the numbers down. From what they actually were. To what they actually were.

And it made it look really bad. It made it look like the economy's job growth was flat as a pancake. Oh, so she like kind of deservedly? She was like, yeah, I know, sorry, kind of correct those. Oh, okay. I don't know. That kind of stuff because I just thought it was

another rogue move from him. And I was like, okay, what's next? It was. It was rogue. But it sounded warranted, though. You made it sound. He was mad at her for sharing the numbers as they were. No, that's what I thought, yes.

That's kind of what I'm getting at. I'm like, you're right. Okay. The same woman that he praised. Pretty lame. Yeah, two months prior saying, great job numbers, great job numbers. You know, numbers that were favorable toward him out. That were just true numbers, you know?

Like, we need that to not become a goddamn authority. I need to know the fucking labor market numbers because that helps inform the investments I make. Right. When there's no job growth, I know a lot about the economy, especially when there's AI that's, like, actively eliminating jobs. Well, if you want to bring more businesses to America, too, like, that's the whole thing with tariffs, right? Like, we're going to domestically many-fax, you know, I know it's allegedly, but, like, I'm just rolling with that thought. Like, they also need to have accurate numbers to know where to put the people in what products to make. If we're really going to make this place, like, as good as he claims.

And if it was dry, if we were already seeing jobs in the American. economy would be seeing job growth yeah so i'm just seeing if like that this snowball's into anything not this particular thing but just like you get a bet down on him firing pal yeah i am sure he just he i think does he go rogue does he does he not i am closing out with uh g lp ones oh cool i am not gonna make a like big broad statement about my stance on gop ones i'm like generally pretty cool with them i've just think in like the last two months they've taken like a warp stream ride to like I'm really happy they got normalized for obesity and I've seen them become like really popular for like normal use and even like just hey I'm going to just try them out hey I'm going to micro dose these things

I've heard they're good for this I've heard they're good for that my client is on one he probably doesn't need to be on one he doesn't need to lose that much weight but intelligence wise and risk analysis wise he's put thought into it and i i'm kind of consciously observing the entirety of the u.s kind of slowly but surely i say this is good i'm down with this i don't feel there's nearly as much friction i think it could be really good for obesity but i do think we're going to enter the land of unintended consequences as more people start using them without doctor's supervision without the education and a lot of people will use them for performance enhancement off label with tremendous results right a lot of people will use them to treat addictions with

tremendous results because they work right but i think we're getting to the point now with these things where if you want them you can get them and we're just going to see what happens when people have their hands on them yeah they're becoming more readily that's very interesting to me it's could be good could be bad could be somewhere neutral i find it unbelievably interesting interesting. I'm just fascinated by how these drugs work. And the fact that as somebody who's struggled to help people lose weight for a long time, it takes a lot of work and a lot of effort. People do it much easier with these. And who knows what we might be able to target in 10 years time if we could shut down like actual addiction to very specific compounds. It would be so cool.

I'm a big advocate for the most part for JLB wants to have a lot of pros. I think some of the cons might play you know might speak to like you know more anorexia he might be seeing that you know less muscle mass less bone density less health overall less nutrients less eating less just like that kind of stuff less graceful aging no less graceful aging or maybe more graceful aging because if you're going to have muscle it's hard it is gracefully obese americans are obese today and all of the obese Americans took this I think we'd have a lot healthier country and I think that if you're somebody who sits around at work all day and you cannot stop thinking about food and you're morbidly obese, then maybe you should look into these and talk to your doctor

about them. If you're somebody who wants to just lose like five to ten pounds of vanity weight, I think that is much more doable than you actually think. And you don't have to go and do this GLP. One thing, you can probably walk a little bit more and pay attention to your calorie intake and you'll be just fine. All right, guys, well, thank you so much for listening to this episode. again, this will be slowly turning into the progressive overload project starting in the next couple weeks as we accumulate some more episodes, hopefully with some more frequency. If you guys enjoyed the episode, share it to any platform. Be sure to tag me so I can say thank you personally.

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