Dynamic Dialogue with Danny Matranga - 407 - HRT, Supplements for Women/Menopause, Lebron's "Squat" + More?

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

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Welcome in, everybody, to another episode of the Progressive Overload Project. As always, I'm your host, Danny Matrenka, joined by both Holden King and Matt Lococo. In today's episode, we are answering a bunch of listener questions, including some specifically about metabolism, questions about supplements for women, specifically women in menopause. We'll talk about sleep, sleep hygiene, even sleep supplementation, the weighted vest. trend that is all the rage. We'll talk about TRT and HRT. So a lot of big trend and big wellness stuff right out of the shoot in our listener questions. We're also going to talk about a new recycling plant that's moving to the town Matt lives in, a town one town away from the town

Holden and I live in that's kind of really gotten local environmentalists, nimbies, all kinds of people riled up. And it makes for a great discussion about not only California politics, housing, environmentalism, chemicals in the environment. It'll touch on a ton of different things. We'll talk about raw milk. We'll talk about the Hussein Far Hot fake Natty bust and how that affects things like body image. Is there a victim in the whole fake Natty thing?

What we think about that? We'll talk about the infamous LeBron lower body compound lift that he did. People are calling it the LeBron squat, as well as some of the stuff that's going on at the CDC and Gavin Newsom trolling, the president. So I hope you guys enjoy this episode. We're hot and heavy on the nutrition and fitness stuff out of the gate. Okay, guys, first listener question.

Again, all of these are coming from over on Instagram. So if you want to have your question featured on the show, be sure to follow the show on Instagram at Progressive Overload Pod or follow myself, Matt, or Holden. You can send us a DM. I post a question box. if you send it to all three of us or the podcast page, somebody will get it. We can't get to all of them, but we try to get the best ones.

This one comes from Ashley Casarella, and the question is, can you really ruin your metabolism? And this is a common question that I've gotten asked many times. Kind of exists in the fitness space, this idea that our metabolism is this thing that gets damaged and can heal, and is one way or another going to respond to how we diet. And I have gotten asked many times, like, am I fucked? dieted hard, like, is my metabolism ruined? And so we'll jump in with kind of quick thoughts starting, Holden. What do you think about metabolism's being something that you could ruin? If you think your metabolism is broken, it's probably not, unless you're like maybe

like 70 years old, right? So. Or like older. It takes a while for it to like really. Yeah, for there to be any meaningful change to your actual metabolism, right? And it's how much you move, it's how much muscle you have, it's how much you weigh. All those things will play a factor into your overall metabolism right yeah i kind of agree it's like kind of but it takes a long time for that to happen and not like you might be convinced as what social media says yeah like don't put too much stock in what that is because it's not really the case yeah i don't think you can actually i'm i'm i'm pretty hard line on that you can't ruin your metabolism the more i've seen in the research the more I believe, like, yeah, if you're in a deficit for a really long time and you're, like,

chronically under-eating, you're, like, how much you burn every day is going to go down to fit within the constraints of how much you're eating. However, but, like, it's just the case when you start eating more people's metabolisms rebound. And across the lifespan, the, I think this is actually pretty astounding. You guys can fact-check this if you want, But from Herman Ponser, this researcher out of Duke, you'll hear people say all the fucking time. Once I hit 40, I could not keep the weight off my metabolism changed. And this is true to a certain degree. I think a lot of things change that might indirectly affect metabolism, like hormones, sex hormones, lifestyle.

But I think it's only like 0.7% per year decrease in metabolism each year after like 60 or something. Like there's not a huge drop off with age like we used to think. I think like the main way I think about like a ruined metabolism, what I think that looks like is I immediately go to like the bikini building like women's body building crowd because just the level of restriction you have to have and what happens like the hormones and the body that could be more prolonged and like what might be quote unquote ruining your metabolism. That might be the closest that you can get. So if you're like not going there at all, then I think that's a good point. The people who have the worst metabolic adaptations is

dieting are women who die for super strict and very prolonged period of time, yeah. Because they have to get so lean, they lose like indirect metrics of like metabolic health. Like I'm cold all the fucking time. My thyroid hormone shot. My menstrual cycles

disregulated. Like I would tell that person if you start eating like what your body needs, you'll have better energy. These things will bounce back. Your metabolism is not ruined. But I think the people who damage their metabolism the most, quote unquote damage their metabolism the most tend to be women who diet with like a lot of consistency and rigidity

at like low calorie antics because women will pay more for dieting than men hormonally I think they'll see things like their menstrual cycle get disrupted and men don't really have something that like overt that happens I mean you can actually lose like your ability to get and maintain interaction because your testosterone can be super super impaired by overly restricted dieting so I guess that's the no fat on the body kind of thing. That would be like the male equivalent. Yeah. But you're always going to burn the amount of calories based on how much you move, how much you weigh, how much you're eating. Yeah. Absolutely. All you are matters with how much you weigh, right? So I think those are the biggest ones. I don't know if this question is meant to see,

is meant for like, hey, am I going to ruin my metabolism? And that means like I can't eat this or I can't eat that or I can't do this because of a certain constraint that I might have now because of my metabolism is broken. I mean, take it there. Like cortisol levels are. too high in the morning or something and what you see on social media with a lot of hormone specialists and metabolic specialists or like these type of diets like eat this eat that this is going to not ruin your metabolism it'll accelerate it or whatever yeah or take this supplement i think there's a lot of supplements out there definitely the supplements but like no your metabolism is probably not ruined and you can if you feel like you're having a hard time with weight loss because i think this goes to this

all the time is is in regards to weight loss your non-exercise activity boost that a little bit like play with their kids more, do more chores around the house, like, get more steps in throughout the day. Like, this is how you can really improve your metabolic rate, you know, increase it. Obviously more activity, you know, better sleep, eating more protein. There's a thermic effect of food, right? When you break down food, you burn calories when you do that. And then you have your basal metabolic rate. Everyone has a basal metabolic rate burns about 70-ish percent of your calories in the day.

And that's just when you're sitting around doing nothing, basic bodily functioning is happening. Like literally just existing. that's how many calories you burn just existing sitting down in the world everyone will most people will have this you know based on how much again how much they weigh how much they move all those things what they're eating what their what their total daily energy expenditure is going to be there's some outliers there's things like PCOS there's things like hypothyroidism where your metabolic rate might slow down a little bit but i think that just that comes down to like energy out and stuff Danny maybe you can touch a little more on that but i think those are the two that are really like stand out

to me when people think their metabolism is broken because they have maybe been diagnosed with these things. Yeah. It's very possible. I have, like, a lot of clients who have thyroid issues that are, like, very lean. And as long as they maintain their, like, medication levels, like, they're super lean, super good body composition. They seem to respond to caloric restriction, like a metabolically normal person.

But, yeah, there's a lot that goes into metabolism. I just don't think you can break it forever with dieting. And I think GLP1 shows this. Yeah, obviously. Almost everybody I know who has a broken metabolism or a fucked up metabolism who got on a GLP1, their metabolism magically fucking started working again. Yeah. Should surprise absolutely no one.

No. Because I think 50% of reportedly broken. Weight management. I think 50% of broken metabolisms are broken eating habits that are being reported as like I'm being unfairly treated by my metabolism when in reality it's just very difficult to track with that. Yeah, I find those people aren't always the most honest with their intakes anyways. Not a personal indictment of anybody, but yeah.

On to question two from Monica Rowe question is supplement for weight training, paramedopausal women. So I like the question. I also hate the question because I don't like how much I am seeing the fitness industry, wellness industry, marketing and hyper-targeting menopausal women. Because as millennial women get into the kind of paramenopausal part of their life, and they are making way more fucking money than their mom's made.

They have way more fucking consumer consumption power in the marketplace than any generation of women ever have. Right. They are getting slammed by big wellness with the paramedopausal bullshit. Yeah, it feels extremely targeted. Yeah, I mean, it's always been the case that big wellness has targeted women

because they're bigger spenders in households. But like women now are like economically driving as much as men, maybe more now. Yeah. And so it's like, okay, that's, if you want to make money, that's who you're going to sell your supplements to. And like the paramedopausal supplement space is, like, exploding with so much bullshit.

And I would actually say, like, the supplements I would recommend for most women would be almost the same for women in paramedopause. I wouldn't make too many adjustments. Right. Yeah, and this, the question is... Just about getting enough nutrients that, like, the body needs at that stage of life. The question is for weight training paramasal... Yeah.

Paraminopause. So if you're weight training, you're probably taking care of a lot of those side effects indirectly. I get a lot of good feedback from a lot of my clients who are their pre-perry or post-menopause. And I almost all the time, when they start their weight training program, when they start exercising more, they're telling, you know, they tell me they have less instances of like hot flashes and irritable sleep and energy. So I think that if you're doing weight training two to three times a week, you're going to probably be doing yourself a hell of a big service doing that rather, you know, opposed to supplementation.

Anything from supplements that you're not getting from your weight training routine, right? Like the good thing in this question is you're doing a weight training routine. I just think menopause is really complicated and individual and there's just nothing you can go out and fucking buy that makes it a whole hell of a lot easier. you can supplement with protein powder and creatine and a multivitamin and an omega-3 to, you know, treat your body like any athlete should give it what it needs because you are an athlete in paramedopause. But like how desperately I wish I could be like, oh yeah, just take this one supplement. It's phenomenal. I think the closest thing we have is like bioidentical hormones, HRT, which we're going to talk about in a second, just like technically supplementing

with estrogen and what your body is missing out on when you go through menopause. But there's nothing you can take supplement-wise that comes close to, like hormones. And I think the best thing you can do is continue the lifestyle habits you already have. I have a question from Sarah Tevick regarding Lemon Balm as a sleep supplement. And I kind of want to take this question the same way we took the last question, which is, yes, I do think Lemon Balm can help with sleep. There are a few supplements that have been shown to help with sleep, like melatonin, Elthianine, magnesium, tart cherry, lemon balm, but they all kind of suck compared to just

like taking generally good care of your pre-bed hygiene routine. Yeah, I'm a big routine guy. Do you guys have any habits, tips, things that you can do or like do to get better sleep? Because like I think that there's just so much also in the sleep space that's that's kind of bullshit. Yeah, I kind of, I guess, have the whole like circadian rhythm approach to it. Like, you know, my day mostly starts when the sun comes up and then I'm kind of ready for bed or I get a little more tired when the sun goes down and I've found for me like I sleep pretty pretty good like I can comfortably say that I have the same routine like again and again and again and it kind of goes in order and I'm in bed usually within an hour depending on like what my morning looks like but I like

the routine holden yeah I don't have kids and yeah I don't have kids that's a big one and my yeah I'm not saying you don't have kids. No, but it does make my job easier if you want to have good sleep. Okay. I'm not saying you. Okay. I know that's in the plans. I know you want to be a dad.

No, yeah. I hear your point. Like, I do sleep easier because I do not have kids yet. Kids make you hard. Yeah. And for us, yeah, it's all, it's really cut and dry. It's pretty simple.

Have a routine and try to carry that routine into the week and two. I think people screw up. This is why Monday. suck for most people I feel like and they really don't need to you know you get the the weekend you're staying up way later you know you're waking up way later and that is just killing your sleep for the week I'm not a sleep specialist by any means but I can tell you what's worked well for me and what works well for a lot of people is going to be like screen time before bed and just like putting that thing away you know totally have you know yeah do something else like maybe go to bed read yeah yeah do you guys

They even have like TVs in your room? Also, eating really close toward bedtime. That's pretty bad for you. It can affect your sleep, especially if you're eating like high fatty foods. Stuff that takes a while to digest. Stuff that takes longer to digest. Alcohol is going to be a sleep killer, you know, especially if you're having it within, you know, three to four hours of bedtime.

So if you're going to drink, drink in the morning and you're sleep a lot better at night. No, don't do that. But yeah, that's kind of off the top of my head. Yeah, just have a routine. Exercise, aerobic exercise, lifting weights. Get yourself really motivated to go to sleep by making things hard in the morning. You know, working out hard in the morning during the day. Yeah, that's a big one.

I think that'll help. I actually think morning workouts help tremendously for most people who get bad sleep. But caffeine intake is another one. I think most people drink way too much caffeine, way more than they should close to bedtime or encroaching upon their bedtime. So do you have any time recommendations for caffeine intake? I cut my caffeine off at noon every day. that's really good honestly it's usually by 10 that's really because i think you want to wait about 10 to 12

hours like but your last dose should be at least like 10 to 12 hours yeah mine's it like as well anybody who i train people who i train who drink caffeine at 4 or 5 p.m. even though they might say hey i actually like i don't have a problem falling asleep but maybe they have a hard time staying asleep and actually getting good quality REM sleep like you might not even notice yeah as much as you right right but like caffeine i don't care who you are it's going to affect your sleep in some capacity. It disrupts your REM sleep to have it too close, even if you're sleepy. Yeah. So caffeine before noon or so. I actually have been doing that too. Sometimes like yesterday I actually had like a half of a year of a matto at like one o'clock. So a little later.

80 milligrams right there. But felt fine. And I had to be practical about it. But I feel like the 3, 4 p.m. caffeine drink or caffeine is like, hey, I'm dehydrated. I haven't drank much water. You haven't moved my body much throughout the day. So try to do those things. That's probably the worst time to push for it if you want to get good sleep. Question from Jessica Carter. I like this. Do I really need a weighted vest for walking if I strength train three days a week? I don't fucking think so because you strength train three days a week. And I think the reason weighted vests are popular is because people don't really want to do that much strength training. Unlike ultimately, if you told me seven days a week walking with

the weighted vest or like two days a week weight lifting, I'm fucking team two days a week weight lifting all day. It's just so easy to put a weighted vest on and walk that I'm like, yeah, sure, fucking like go for it, but you know you need a lift? Yeah, for me it's like, yeah, like

it probably couldn't hurt, but it's probably extremely unnecessary. Why the weighted vest? If the weighted vest is making you walk, okay, use it. I'm all for it. Walking is really good for it. Yeah, how you look at it definitely matters. But it's not going to be, you know, it's not going to make a huge impact on the calories you're burning

because that's what you want to do maybe is expend more calories and maybe that's the reason why people wear it? I think it's for bone density and again it goes, I think this loops into the menopausal thing. Like the people who are getting targeted with weighted vest stuff right now are women in menopause because it is a form of weight-bearing exercise. So it has considerably better outcomes than like walking without a weighted vest because, like, everybody wants the bone density

and the metabolic benefits of, like, loaded exercise. Right. And how convenient. Is that really what it is? Yeah, for sure, bro. That's why it's here. Because it's, like, conveniently American to just be like, no, fucking walk with weights.

Like, oh, that's tough. That's strong. I'm just going to walk with weights. I don't have to fucking lift weights. That's the whole, that makes sense. It goes along with, like, the whole three to five pounds in your hand on the treadmill thing where you're going to tone here. Or swinging your arms when you power walk because it burns more calories.

and get all this shit done at one time horribly. If you want bone density and you want muscle mass and you want leanness again, and I don't think this is going to ever change, go into the weight room, lift some weights kind of hard a few times a week, and it'll solve your problems. You don't need to have a weighted vest.

But again, if it's motivating for walking and you're not going to walk without it, nothing wrong with using it. Yeah, if you're looking for the most in being efficient, I ditch the weighted vests and just string, train, four days a week. and there you go you know you could also just like run like running is yeah like harder aerobic uh exercise running is probably better for you too if in fact if in fact you're wearing the weighted vest to increase your like aerobic capacity uh i think you might be better of

just like increasing the demand of your cardio but i'm cool with the weighted vest i just really don't think it's a good idea to think this is a stand in for weight training inclined walk walk a hill and if you walk a hill with a vest I think you might be you're going to get a lot out of your glutes there maybe you could also just lunge with body weight you can probably get substantially more strength benefits than anything you could do

if you like it and do it if not it's not really that necessary if you love you're not necessary you're not going to be you know you're not going to burn a thousand more calories with the vest on not even maybe 50 more honestly so last one from miss Madison squat Scott squat would be better Miss Madison Scott

thoughts on TRT slash HRT is it a fad so it's totally a fad but it's also like one of those things that's been around and is going to stay around because hormone replacement therapy is very indicated for a lot of people right you need it some people need it but I think that right now you're seeing a lot of people who do not need it using it and I think you're seeing I see that so much especially in the fitness sense right I guess I think it's just like I there's so many 20 year old dudes who are on testosterone because they want to look like 40% better than they do naturally yeah and it's like okay like I get it I don't get it I think I don't know why they're doing that who lift for like a little bit and take gear kind of look like average natties I'm gonna

you I don't know like for me I don't know I was question like why people lift kind of thing and I go there and like it seems like those people just want to be big just to be big yes and like that's Why, like, 70% of fucking men live. Yeah, so, like, I don't understand that. So I think it's just like a dumb look, like a fad, dumb fat. I understand that. I think that's not going anywhere. No, men have.

I know it'll be around. It's getting worse. Yeah. Well, I think with social media, and I think our attention spans are so small. I think our, I don't think we have much patience. I think if you want to, you know, actually change the way your body looks, you need to put some years in, you know, and be patient. And you'll probably look better in the long run, and you'll actually probably stick. with it in the long run, especially if you're younger starting out with these hormone therapies.

I get it. Like nowadays with the food supply, you know, you've got a bunch of young men with way lower testosterone before, you know, you've got seed oils, right? It is cool to have high tea. It is cool. And all that's actually, and that, yeah, but that is actually bullshit. Okay, people's men's testosterone is not low because of that stuff. Dude, it's because most men are fat.

Yeah. It's like, there's an epidemic of young male testosterone. They all have low T. Oh, my God, what's causing it? Well, when you average it out, like, fucking 70% of them are metabolically obese and fundamentally castrated because they're obese. They're estrogen and testosterone ratio is all kinds of fuck. It is very low beta T, like, low T male to be like, there's an epidemic of low testosterone.

Like, this is like, it's out to get me. And it's like, very clearly this is caused by too many men being obese and like survival of the fittest generally not wanting people. It's a lack of getting attention too. Look at high, look at the... Just watching more jackdudes get more attention and they're jealous at that. That's my fucking take on that too. Okay, yes, there's a lot of men

who are using testosterone because they believe they're getting ahead of this epidemic. Correct. But they're projecting a potential lack of testosterone I think onto themselves from statistics that are largely influenced by people

being metabolically obese. Yeah, and how many guys are, I mean, how many young men and men in, I don't know, 30s, middle-aged men drinking tons of alcohol? Yeah, a lot. Yeah, there's some like social events. That's going to lower the hell out of the party phase, but still doing social stuff, which involves drinking and like, it's frequent enough. And then how many people's sleep sucks.

And then the stress, right? Sleep alcohol consumption and being too fat are probably the primary drivers of low testosterone and low activity. If you're, like, under 40, probably don't really need TRT or HRT, depending on a few things. There's obviously some genetic factors, and maybe you want your testosterone to be higher because it says it's like 400. But even that would be a normal range if you went and got a blood test. I think what's the obsession with a thousand testosterone or the maximum amount? It's a stand in for like a masculinity score, bro.

It literally is. It's like, I want to be, I want to score higher on the man. I want my tea to be higher. If I crack four digits, like, I am someone, bro. And it's like, yeah, but somewhere there's like a 111 pound sixth grader with like a 1,500 tea level. I know. I know. Who is like fundamentally like just e-masculine.

It's like playing Pokemon all day. It's like mom is making a pizza roll. Totally chilling, totally vibing. he's hanging, unaware that he has what you want so badly which is like rib and hide and you're like, like what? He's a normal guy. He's a normal guy. Yeah, he's just fucking fine about it.

Yeah. And he don't even care. He don't even care. He's not we're going to talk about this in a second when we talk about these like fake natties. I trained a guy who had like 1500 testosterone. How did you come to figure out his info? Because he went and got his blood work done because he was worried because he wasn't able to gain weight. He was lifting three to four days a week and

super strong. So, super lean, like, wiry frame. So high, see he's just shredding sad. Gini, the highest tea I've ever seen anybody ever have. And he was just like the nicest, most chillest, mellowest guy. And he was just a string bean. But after a few years of lifting, he built so muscle. Yeah, his genetic is so calm and mellow.

Well, you know, I just know that I'm superior to every man I ever come around because of my man score. I have a 1-100 man-score daddy, bro. Just like dunking on every pussy man I ever walk by. I really do think the obsession with being over a thousand is totally. It's like a mansper. It's literally like having a shit don't impress me. It is.

It's another dick measure contest. Man, I bet you have like a thousand test. I've actually never tested it. So maybe we've got to get that done. Our testosterone was very close to one another. In the mid-seven homes, when a whole, I got to test it last.

It was like sevens. So that's the mark to beat. That's the mark to be. That's the mark to be. Yeah. But it's like that's not insanely high. It's also like a chantly above the like probable average. Ridge, but it's not crazy.

Or if the skinny frame means anything with his client, I might fucking have one. There is a degree of where leadness helps, but also where it hurts. Yeah. Okay, there's a weird recycling plant coming to town. I don't know if you guys, like, had it any time to look into this. I thought this was fascinating. I actually did. They're taking plastic.

All I know is that is in my hometown. Yeah, big time. So I would like to know about it. Yeah, there was like some pretty interesting, like, intersectionality with maha on this. No way. It's like a plastic incineration plant. Okay. And so they're going to put it right in the middle of town, and it's going to, and all likely, that's the new downtown.

It uses, yes, it's going to be downtown. It's going to create jobs, manufacturing jobs for hardworking Americans. Yehaw. But it's also going to microwave a bunch of fucking plastic. That's crazy. And that, rightfully. So I should expect 95 degree days from your own out. I think that should, like, rightfully sketch people out.

Because if you look, corporations that come in and dispose of chemicals. I mean, this isn't the town we work in, too. It's literally. We work in this town. is actually the town that the studio's in, so I didn't think about that. So our balls will be absorbing all the microclastics from the air. But this, this is fascinating because you see a lot of people come out and you get this nimbie response from like the fucking typical, you know, California boomer shit. I hate to say it. But like, I don't want anything developed anywhere

near my home that could possibly fucking affect the value of my home. It's like very clear that the motivation is just like, you do not want this thing, even though it is a job creator. And ultimately it's recycling shit. So, like, that is, like, a double net positive. Totally. And, like, I feel, like, from some of these people, it's all about the, I don't want it near my house or the home values, but I also respect people

who are aware of, like, the fact that DuPont chemicals dumps a bunch of chemicals into the water supply near, you know, their manufacturing base for years, and you see, like, a massive uptick in cancer and birth defects for the people that live around there. But I don't know. Yeah, maybe if you're a young parent, That probably, like, means something.

I mean, you feel about it, bro. It's literally 1.7 miles or something from your house. Yeah, and it's even, it's like half a mile from our gym. Yeah, so. It's really close. Yeah. So, what's the news on that? Like, it's for sure, like, stamped.

Like, I got approved. It's happening. No, there's a lot. I'm going to play a video while we talk about here with it muted, put the subtitles on. But I'm just got to shut out anything. There's a lot of people frustrated about it in town. People are, are meeting in front of city hall, throwing a big old fucking Hissy fit. How did you come to find out about it? It made the local news. Like not the local

local news. It made like the Bay Area local news. So yeah, you can see it right there. It's very fucking close. Godway. Yes, it's it's. Oh, they're going to put it. It's like a quarter mile from my house. So this is a plastic and soon, now you're really fucked. Now you're really fucked. Now how many of these are there? Is this like one of the this is one of a hundred or? And so this is the guy and the company is re-snergy and he's like we have this incredible microwave technology nobody else has it turn the plastic into it mixes it with heat and microwaves into like a like flake that can be turned into like more plastic so like an ash i don't know or i i don't know you can repurpose it sounds like people are really frustrated about it like people are really worried about it coming to

their community and how it could affect their kids why does it have to be right in the middle of town why can't be on i don't know that's probably why they're saying that at city hall Location-wise, it's kind of, so you guys know where, like, Petaluma Hill Road is. Yeah, but people won't know who are listening to the podcast. Yeah, yeah. So, like, point being is there's a big field, I think, behind it. So there's not really that many homes. So location-wise, it might be the best place in Roner Park because it's not, like, in the middle of the city.

Oh, it's too late. So it's, like, kind of on the outskirts of the edge, and it's just close to this high school, it looks like. Well, the thing is, it's fucking already built. So I'm, like, looking at it right now, and I'm just thinking that this is probably- a waste of taxpayer money if it didn't uh it's not it's not taxpayer funded the company bought this land and i think it's putting it up there privately i and now people are like frustrated that the city council let it through or the planning commission let it through but i think it's kind of interesting speaking of things that are killing your kids how about raw milk uh this fucking lady or uh holding

you put this in the show no it run with it so this was a woman who was uh 20 weeks pregnant this is some reporting here. A woman who was 20 weeks pregnant, which for those of you who don't know, that's like over halfway, fed her toddler son, raw milk. Okay, so she obviously had a kid. She had a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He contracted campylobacter, and then passed the infection to her. She progressed to sepsis and had a miscarriage. She's suing the business that sells raw milk. Misinformation and disinformation are incredibly dangerous. she says that she was not aware of the risks related to consuming raw milk even though every video ever made about raw milk says don't listen to anybody when they took the risk is wrong milk you hope the critical thinking was there but like also to her point

as well like if if the health secretary of the united states is going to say this is the case like one might probably he knows taking shots of it in the fucking white house yeah i mean that's wild too but like yeah i guess you can you can fault her for completely avoidable I do like that we are paying for an adult man who is terrified of seed oils. Taxpayer funding dollars are being pissed away for him to go to the Eisenhower Executive Office Building and make fucking ads about raw milk

and take raw milk shooters to effectively just own the lips. Look, you're not getting more nutrition out of raw milk by sticking your mouth on the teat of a cow and sucking out of it, okay? You're not. You're just not. Raw milk is not any more nutritionally valuable than pasteurized milk. Same protein, same calcium, same micronutrients overall. Like, you're not getting any benefit besides the 150% less risk you have of having a foodborne fucking illness.

Don't drink raw milk, please. And there's a reason why we pasteurize it. And now people are buying raw milk and being like, okay, I have this cool thing that you do with this raw milk. If you heat it up. And then you drink it, way less expensive. I had diarrhea in weeks after I started warming up my raw milk. Just describing the process of what they're mad about. It's just one example.

This is just one example of the people that will die for no... For unnecessary reasons. For unnecessary reasons. Very avoidable. Due to this misinformation, people being in places where they shouldn't be in our government, people like RFK, and then they're bringing in all these guys on so. social media who they're just influencers they're they all have the same

stick you know yeah they're yeah influencers try to sell you things right that's what they're trying to do they don't trust their scientific effort they use these people as a vehicle to normalize the whatever it is so what is their goal to this and then and now we're gonna now we're gonna

say I know exactly what causes autism we're doing a study on it and we're not we're talking about raw milk I know yeah and now we're like jumping to autism but and I'll tell what? Listen, what the fuck are you doing drinking milk? You're an adult. I think it's so, yeah, it's fucking stupid. Like, ooh, my raw milk coming, take it, pussy. Like, ice cream and cheese and milk are like all over here on the spectrum of like not that fucking great for you milk products. And then

way over here, you have like Greek yogurt and cottage cheese and kifir, all of which can be pasteurized with zero percent risk of unnecessarily idiotic stupid milk poisoning. But you are, you and your big health brain. Oh, yeah. I'm going all the way over to fucking milk where I, oh, there's milk. So it's just like way less good for me than yogurt and kaffir, but like I'm going to go to milk because it's raw. Why?

You're picking like weak, lame tier milk product. You could get way more nutritional benefits from other shit. It's primal for them, I think. It is. I'm taking the food of an animal like my ancestors did. Bro, part of it is the flex of the baked in risk. I'm not afraid of the risk. Like, your fucking bitch life is so fucking easy.

You little puss with your ringlight in front of you. I have pro milk just for everyone out for the record. I do enjoy milk. I've been drinking milk my whole life, man. You just have it a nice cold glass. I don't pour a glass of it. I don't do that anymore, but I do have it in my cereal. And I do like to have it.

It's fucking fine. I'm just my name. Protein shape. You're going to put water? People are housing 16 ounces of a raw milk a day. And I'm like, you can just fucking eat four ounces of Greek yogurt, you idiot. Yeah. You know, you want to have some.

If that's how you're going to find your belonging in life, you know, fucking. I mean, yeah, but do it. But don't tell everyone else. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I shouldn't say do it. The norm. I reject the heterodox norm of health culture. I do it the way they used to do it back in the day.

And I have my milk raw, which means it's way healthier. It's also 800 times more likely to fuck you up. What are you doing? Yeah. Why are you risking it all for a low-tier version of a dairy, like, fluid when you could easily just have pasteurized kaffir, yogurt, or cottage cheese? I think it's actually dumb. Yeah. No, I think you hit the nail on that.

So let's talk about the big fake natty bust of Hussein Farhot, enabled by Greg Doucette, who's another one of these guys on the internet who sells fucking. fake stupid buzz steroids. Wasn't he the guy that was calling out people for not being Natty? Yeah. He's like, team no Natty? I don't know what. He's team make money, clearly. Because in the middle of this dude's apology video where he's like, oh yeah, you know, I have this incredible fucking physique that I've always told you as Natty. I actually lied and I took a lot of steroids for 16 months and then I cycled off, contacted Greg Doucette, said, come test me. I tested negative for everything. Built my whole brand off this lie. became an, I believe athlete, if not sponsored by Greg DeState, sponsored by tons of companies, made lots of money.

But, like, when he gets busted, I don't fully know how it came out that he got busted. Greg Doucette actually comments. Yeah, he approached me and told me he was doing steroids for 16 fucking months, which is like, damn, dude. So, like, were you in on it? Or, like, it's come to my attention that he had used steroids for, like, 16 months. So now they're both, like, they're both looped in. Scambling. They're, I don't know if they're scrambling or they're just both looped in on it.

So they drop a duet apology video. And like halfway through the middle of it, they're like, you gotta get on Turkesteroon. And it's like, fuck off. Turcesterone is like fake steroids for idiot men who are dollopal and stupid. Sorry, I misledged you, but it's really not that bad. Being on the juice is not as bad as you think. Buy my shit. That's pretty much.

He hasn't been on the juice for 16. months. It's just, you know, he has like one of the best physiques in the world if you consider him to be natty. But if you know he used, you know, almost two years worth of steroids to like augment his physique, it's substantially less impressive. He still has an impressive physique. I really do think a lot of dudes who take steroids have unimpressive physiques. But like all of the most impressive physiques tend to be dudes. Aided by. The perfect balance of drugs. But there are a lot of dudes who I think would take what he took can look worse. Totally.

This guy has good genetics. But imagine, I just think, like, I do think that the fake Natty thing is, like, the principal driver of negative body image in men. I think it's one of them. It's a big market, obviously. I mean, this happens all the time. These guys, I think. Hussein Farat guy's got 2.7 million, so he's on the front.

This is just an Instagram thing. She has more than, like, TikTok or something. Yeah. He's on the spotlight right now. But, I mean, there are so many people who do this. men. Yeah, the fake Natty thing, you're, you're financially incentivized. It's like the perimenopausal people, the postmenopausal supplement people and the hormone

people, whatever. But I guess it's just from like an understanding it like standpoint. So this dude misled like misled a lot of people, but like I think it goes beyond just the use of the steroids and more so like the lifestyle that's sold if you're viewing this, which is probably through social media and you're following this dude, which is why you take like, you know, steroids to look a certain way like that because he sells your lifestyle success, there's money, there's probably attractive women around. And for young dudes, like, that's everything.

These dudes just want to be like these men. Yeah, they want to get that level of attention. It's like stardom. The majority of the people that follow and aspire to look like these men are like 16 to 22-year-old men who are looking for some type of like hope and aspiration that they could work for a ton of people. Look at this guy. That could be me, man.

Yeah, that could be me, exactly. I'm going to buy his program. I'm going to take his supplements. That could be me. You know, I've had a tough lot. Right. But, man, if I could transform my physique like that, I could transform my whole life. Like, this is so aspirational.

There is some truth in that. Yeah, I do. This is like a lot of young men's journey through fitness. It's like I will transform my body into something that will get me respect. More opportunities will come my way. Who do not respect me. Right. Whether it's women or other men or whatever.

You're not going to get any more. respect you're not going to get any more attention from women what you're just kind of it's more of a turnoff probably to be looking for the next thing um and look even guys on instagram who are transparent with taking steroids like the sam solex of the world like people 18 to 20 years old they love that guy and they'll do everything he's doing like including the stack that he's on and and well maybe we should like i just think we're yeah we're missing out on the point of you know actually having a healthy habit in your life that you decide to engage on a weekly basis, and that's lifting weights and doing something that's good for your

body. Yes, muscle is really good for your body to have, but you should take, you know, be patient. It takes time. And if you do it naturally, you'll be, you'll look back and be very happy. I mean, I do. I look back and I'm like, you know what, if I did steroids at 18, I don't even know if I'd still be lifting right now. Well, the cool thing is I can always do steroids. You can always do steroids. You can always do steroids. Yeah, you don't have to do it this early. time to ever do steroids from what i've heard is the first time and so like i still got that chid chamber like i'm like like there is a little bit of something as like a mid physique 30 year old

daddy i know i have this thing in my back pocket where i could be like someday i'm gonna be fucking yeah i'm gonna be philipa you all you people who tell me my physique is mid i'm gonna do by third grade cichin i told me i'm gonna be like mid pro max then what are you gonna say I'm going to look like I'm fucking almost fake Natty. No, but it's like I, some people do respond insanely well to steroids. And there is a little part of me in the back that's like, back of my head that's like, dude, I think I think I might be the one that responds like hell of good. Because all the bodybuilders say the same thing.

I respond so good to like a little bit of gear, like barely any. So I'm on like no gear. I'm just on TRT and it's like, shut the fuck up, you bitch. But like they're on a lot. But, like, I, like, hate that because I'm like, oh, man, you're faking it. But there are people who on a little bit do respond really well. And I am holding out hope that one, I'm one of those people. You can do it whenever, though.

Or you can do it whenever. Yep. And when you've got the lifting skill and you have the understanding of your body, it works well for you and all those things in the bag and then you add steroids to that, oh, let's hope. Superhuman. Let's hope. Hey, we got to talk about.

Before we move on, like, I think we should talk about this in terms of just, like, the male body image thing and, like, how you can help, like, minimize it and like talking about like if you're on IG right and you're scrolling on these pages and the suit has a program he looks ripped you're not sure if he's on steroids or not because you don't know enough how can someone like that tell like so they don't get duped is my point if they have like what are the signs of it like in their bio they're probably fucking not natural okay if they're making money on their physique on the internet they're probably fucking non natural right if you feel compelled to be like god damn that gives me tremendous hope

I could look like that as a natural? Yeah. Oh, that'd be amazing. They're probably not fucking natural. Right. It's the simplest barometer for- So assume that is too good to be true. At this point, you should be cynical as fuck.

Yeah, you're saying that. This person is lying, obviously. The tough tail giveaway. You should assume that they're lying. Is big old honk and deltors. And traps. I mean, they're big. They're bigger than everything.

You're like, oh, well, this is good. Disproportionate growth of, like, the upper back, traps and delts. And if it felt like those gains were achieved in like not a long period of time. Redness, people turn like kind of red. Either way. No amount of steroids is going to turn you into LeBron James. Neither will his weird ass fucking squats. So LeBron has some crazy squat technique.

And interestingly enough, like seven or eight years ago, Matt and I dropped like five grand, not a, like in totality, probably $2,500 a piece. to fly to Miami and learned from these bozos better fucking team that we're training LeBron at the time they were training LeBron and so imagine this I'm like oh fuck yeah boy I spent all this money well you're training like pro pro athletes and you're like we dude like all right this will elevate our game for sure that's how I thought about it at least this made so much sense totally every move it was like brainer that was old rip cage goes up on that move. Rip cage goes down on that. Oh, dude.

And you don't press in front of you anymore. It's behind the net. Actually, never use your rib cage again. Looking back on it, like, I would never like cue people that way, but like it did help me like unlock a better understanding of the mechanisms of how the body moved. So like, and then I ran with it with my own

not all negatives. Not all negatives. No, no, no. But yeah, it's laughable now. Yeah. So I just want to, I, there's one moment where I just remember being like, oh, I think I'm fucked. I think I'm cooked. And I was just like in, in like the first day, it was sitting in the row, like trying to take some notes and there was a discussion about like squats and how the prime mover on the squat needed to be the hamstrings. And I was just like pulling the shins back to like a hundred percent.

And so like, I'm like, okay, maintain an open mind. Anatomically just doesn't make a lot of sense for me. But like, whatever, it is what it is. Just deal with it. You paid a lot of money to be here. Yeah. One of these guys is hell of smart. He fucking trains LeBron James.

Shut up and listen, you're idiot. I think like D. Wade was in that group too. And so I'm just like, pay attention to have a good mindset. Pay attention. And I'm like hearing over and over again about the hamstrings playing a huge role in the squat. And every time I hear it, I'm like, I don't know about that. I think it's a gluten quad thing for the most part. So then we go out to the practical.

And it is time to squat. Yes. And I've never had my squat picked a part before. But apparently my squat is like insanely perfect. And that's when I was like, too deep. Too deep. You got to pull your hips back at the bottom.

I'm like, listen, that feels terrible. Because I think my squat is solid. And like what you're asking me to do is turn it into this thing where I just, I feel my hamstrings more than I do normally. And it's making me feel like I can't lift any fucking weight through any range of motion, which is kind of the whole point of strength training. Yeah.

I'm like, the whole rest of the time, I was like, all right, well, we're here for the nuggets. You know, there's gold in nuggets. There'll be some gold here. But I still, to this day, see LeBron squat like that, I know where it started, and it bugs the fuck on me. Yeah, that is, that is to a team. Very few people can actually speak to why he moves that way. And I can say that I've paid the price.

Yes. So why LeBron squats that way. As have I. Not exactly proud of it. They brought a location of Petaluma. Out of all the exercises, and I don't think there's one exercise that needs to have these parameters around it toward this exactly need to do it. There's no such thing.

I think everyone has the way that they move with their anatomic makeup. And especially with the squat, with the barbell on your damn back, everyone's going to, everyone's squats going to look fucking. LeBron is like six-nine. So let's say that's, you look at the way that LeBron James squats. I think he's about to snatch that bar when I see that. That's not what he did. Just put it inside a hex bar and I'm thrilled.

100%. Put that exact thing inside a hex bar and we can probably put like 400 pounds on it. And he is fucking training hella hard. There's been a few videos that have surfaced of him training that you've been like, I would not expect this from LeBron James, one of the best basketball players and most dominant figures ever. I told you. I think he's going to snatch that. Sumo RDL.

It's a sumo deadlift with the snatch grip. Okay, so typically Every grip for this fool is probably a snatch grip Because I mean, LeBron's wingspan is crazy But still, you can see how his arms are, he's reaching out Dude, yeah, he's just put him down by your side He has a wide stance too. He has a mega wide stance like this.

It's way more advantageous to put your arms inside your legs. So that right there is fucked up. If I ever had, if I was ever going to cheat someone. You know, I looked at LeBron's totally fucking stupid ass squad and I have to say, he's an answer in the wrong place. That makes a difference. That's what it is. I knew something.

The biggest thing, okay, he's a really, really long guy, right? Imagine the length of those femurs. Imagine the length of those femurs. He is like six foot eight. So for you to squat with resistance in front of your shins like that, for you to squat, the bar like that. His fucking L5 is six feet away from the bar. Tell me is.

is hurting. No wonder that his trainer doesn't want him to set the bar on the fucking ground. You're going to pop your back right out of place. I don't know what he's saying. You guys want to hear what is like totally missed by 95% of the amount of weight he's using. Yes. Do you know what those big whites are?

They're like two and a half. There's 75s. No. That's a 200 kilo white paint. Can you imagine? Dude, those are five pounds training plates. I didn't notice that because that's what I've seen like young kids use those. pounds on the bar and like i have to i to holden's point that's how you motivate all your old

clients the reason rd else feels shitty for most people is because their low back just has a hard time feeling stable right and so once they're good enough at hinging and keeping the bar close to the body right it like it's better and better 100 but like the further the bar gets in front of you the more you feel it in your lower back because the low back has a harder time creating stability the further way the load gets from it's not that complicated the that's a good point like his femurs are probably as long as anybody reasonably in the world right as he's lebron having a snatch grip and doing whatever that is it's probably probably no it's probably no it's not moving the needle for performance for creating resilience for him to use a lot of load he can't because he's not an advantageous

If he were doing a hex bar deadlift from the ground, I'm cool with that. But I think he's RDAO. If he's going to do it. A normal hex bar, like one of the ones, like the silver one we have at the studio, he wouldn't fit in that fucking thing. Yeah, yeah. That's facts. But the one with the open side, that's the one he needs to be doing. And also, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, man.

Get your feet under your hips and just hinge normally. Yeah. And learn and do that. But also, like, you don't have to, like, you don't have to. rather than out or two if he's going to do it that same way yeah yeah i just think like rip it like and this puts in this and this brings me to my next conclusion that lebron james training regimen if it's kind of like this if his exos are kind of like this it's not the whole thing is like that yeah it's not doing shit because there's no way he's doing this just to troll the internet no and it's

probably not helping and create like differently off camera yeah this is him all the time one of his fucking legs weighs the amount of that he has in his arms dude 100% no we're going to create any or any, any more resilience. He doesn't really need any more resilience, obviously. He's played for 30 years or 20, whatever years in the NBA. At, like, a very high level. Like he did. I just think that his genetics are superior, obviously.

And I think he recovers faster than most people. And there are genetic variances that will allow you to recover faster. And I think LeBron just, like the modern super soldier. LeBron has some genetic variances that I, that I do not have. That's a great. Yeah. This man is not. What do you think is like to be?

Like, live a day in the life of LeBron. You know. Well, shitty deadlifts, for sure. Let's go work out, LeBron. I don't want to do that. Like, first, if I were to teach somebody. Well, first, I'm going to wake up in my incredibly amazing mansion with my beautiful LeBron James family. And I'm going to walk out to my beautiful LeBron James gym and just slop some shit deadlifts.

And then go be the best Adelaide on earth because it doesn't fucking back. matter yeah yeah that's what i would do if i was lebron james if i were to teach someone how to deadlift it would be the complete 180 opposite of what i see here and and i'm not saying that first when you approach the bar i want you to remember you are not lebron james yeah okay really connect with that okay brace your core not lebron not lebron and look feeling your back is good and it's okay and it's your back and your back becomes resilient and adapts to the stimulus like it's okay to feel your back well at the end of the day it's probably not advantageous for your long term strength gains to lift like that absolutely olen absolutely that's all i'm saying all right so we have got some we got a draft

and we're going to go a little politics culture here talking about the recent cdc shooting that that happened like a week or two ago that nobody talked about some dude this is also in the wake of the minnesota shooting that happened on wednesday of this week But I wanted to bring this up because I thought it was interesting. This guy, he's a young, mentally ill adult with a gun, which, again, has become a feature of a lot of these shootings. He goes and he shoots the CDC building. So he fires a ton of rounds into the CDC building, yeah.

And the rationale. Did anyone get injured or anything? Honestly, you guys should probably pull up the statistics while I'm talking about it. I got it better for the quality of the point I'm trying to make. but like it wasn't so much about the damage done or the life lost but the rationale was that he was convinced that some of the ailments and his struggles that he has been having were because of the COVID vaccine and like I know how common it is to like fucking he was saying the COVID vaccine drove me to do this.

Fucked him up and it's really bad and a lot of people believe this and like my whole thing on the COVID vaccine has been so fucking bad. Why does like every single 85 year old woman we train have like 20 of them and zero issues. Zero. Why is it that all of us could have had multiple COVID vaccines and have accidentally accidentally have children because of it was going to be this thing that we're going to fuck with our fertility. And like the reason I bring all that up is like you don't have to be like a staunch

advocate for the COVID-MRNA vaccine. You can acknowledge that, hey, it's not, maybe it's not as effective as some of the other vaccines we've had because it's like a new and emergency technology. But seeing people shooting up the Center for Disease Control because they believe this is like super duper alarming. And I do think it's part of this greater anti-science movement in this country that's happening right now where people are really rejecting the scientific institutions. It's like a total overhaul of like approach. Well, this I think is just politically motivated violence. I think it's it's somebody who is radicalized and believed.

leaves things about vaccines that are really overblown. And, like, I'm not going to stand here and be like, I have not maintained my COVID vaccination schedule. I'll be honest. I've been kind of lazy about it. I've had COVID. I had two, the two shots. Yeah.

I got COVID three times, four times probably. Okay. Since it dropped. Yeah, yeah. I've had COVID four times since it dropped. I just, I just, yeah, I did my due diligence and got it too. When, when the. But you're not keeping up on them.

Right now. I'm not being told to by people who I believe are way smarter than me with this shit. And unfortunately, people don't see it that way. A lot of people don't see that expert opinion or experts, you know, all the money, all the time, all the hours spent, everybody coming together and coming up with this amazing technology. Yeah, the internet tech is cool, even if the COVID vaccine isn't as effective as some of the other vaccines. Yeah, it's just looking for something to. blame like because it's not a hundred percent effective so it has errors technically so there for it's flawed and i am justified in feeling and thinking the covid vaccine is a stand in for all the

failures of covid governance i'm mad at the vaccine still because covid was a shit show in my state or federally or for my business i couldn't go anywhere my lie to put my life on pause and it's all these people's fault yeah i mean kind of yes kind of no like i was able to use the covid 19 pandemic to change my life completely for the positive. And, like, you just got to do what you got to do sometimes. Right. Like, you know what? I didn't own a restaurant, but I literally worked in one of the industries that got

hammered by COVID, which was fitness. And I know that not everybody can, like, pivot online, but I do think it's really annoying that we're, like, in a wellness trend now where, like, a lot of fitness people are just, like, overtly anti-vaccine because of how they felt during COVID and just how their political allegiance has changed because, like, you can. can totally be like a staunch conservative who loves uh you know fiscal conservatism who's like ideologically maybe christian or evangelical who's like a big believer in the nuclear family and like the second amendment and all of these things like all of the conventional trappings of conservatism

but like it takes so much cognitive dissonance to be anti-vaccine like you have to look at all of the data you're like combing through it combing i i even understand like vaccine skepticism that's seen cynicism but like shooting up the CDC yeah we have I think we've turned a corner on this that is like okay there is like an overt hatred of this technology now and it's pretty

it's like pretty fucking fundamental to yeah it's very dangerous it's making it like public enemy number one when it's not really a cause of what they're claiming to be the problem and you're going to see you're going to see more of this as we go forward you're going to see more people die of of things that were preventable with vaccines, you know. I think, you know, measles is kind of rearing its head a little more in some areas in our country.

And it's in, you know, under vaccinated populations. And if you look at history, hundreds of thousands of people were dying from things like diphtheria and measles. And when the vaccines came out, it just was eradicated. And it was, it was one of the best things in scientific technology. that we have come up with in the modern day era. Walking away from it is like statistically pretty stupid. I think like you want as much medical advancement as you can possibly get because it's a form of soft power.

The United States is stronger when we are a leader in science and vaccinations. And allowing a failed environmental attorney who literally is only the head of health in human services because his fucking last name is Kennedy. If his name was Robert F. Carlson Jr., he would fucking not have that goddamn job. No, no shot. So much of the good fate that is ingratiated to this man is because his uncle got fucking killed

in the back of a fucking automobile by an armed maniac. Right. And he had the gall to come out after that shooting in Minnesota and blame it on SSRIs. He goes, you know, I don't think we have a gun problem. I think it's an SSRI problem.

You think that fucking Lee Harvey Oswald was on SSRIs when he put a bullet in your uncle's head? I don't think so, buddy. I think crazy people do crazy shit. Yeah. And like we definitely have, I think we have a big problem because the dude who's running the show at HHS is, I think he's like pretty destructive force and like does what he feels is right. And I think a lot of what he feels is right is pretty dumb. I watched him in an interview literally say, you shouldn't trust me. me. And I was just like,

not a doctor. Come on. Like, how are you, like, why are we thinking to not trust those words? Okay, so we'll finish with a draft really quick, guys. We were drafting the best upper body physique possible using just four exercises.

Draft order goes Matt, holding, Danny, Danny, holding Matt, Matt, on Snake style. I'll go last. Matt goes first. We have four exercises apiece to build the best upper body. physique, strength, et cetera. And then we're closing out. Matt, go ahead and you're on the clock.

So these are like individual exercises, right? With the 101. Yeah. I'm going to go with probably my favorite chest one, which is going to be like the cable fly, cable chest fly. Okay, cable chest flies off the board at 101. Holden, you're up. Let's do a 45 degree.

Holden loves the chest. Cable lap pulled. So Holden's going to be cable. Cable. LAT pull. Let's do this. Fuck that. Let's do this. The basic lap pull-down. Okay, there we go.

He's going with the lap pull-down. So the first two pigs in the upper body physique development draft are cable flies and lap pull-downs. So we're going chest and back. I think that's fine. I do think it's a little bit interesting that one of them was an isolation movement. So on the turn here, I'm going to take a dumbbell bench press, which I think is about as good as it gets.

If I only have four. I want the press that's going to give me the most longevity. And I think if I could only do one type of press, a barbell while I love it might wear me out. So I'm going to take the dumbbell chest press. I'm going to get a absolute shitload of triceps with this and an absolute ton of delts and I'm going to pair it with a chest supported row.

Oh, yeah. Because that's another compound that is going to help me lift a lot of weight. Yeah. And I could honestly stop with just those two. And I know that I have the back-to-back coming up here pretty shortly. Yeah, so holding back to you, boss. All right, back to me. Okay, can we change the degree of which we press these dumbbells or that's taken, right?

Obviously. I mean, you could have like an incline barbell bench. I mean, I think I just got dumbbell presses, dumbbell presses, chest presses. Okay, so in this draft, we're going to probably need to hit all the major muscle groups. Well, it's up to you, bros, your physique. I know it's going to build mine. So we got lap pull downs and let's go delts, like lateral delts because physique. that matters and let's go cuffs on cable lateral raises where the cables are set like right above

the hip i'm picturing him on like a deserted island only doing upper body trading but there's like a single cable set up on a coconut tree that he can do low abduction can't do anything else right i would just grab the coconuts and raise him up around my side you find a way he says rocks okay rocks i'm that you have the back to back yeah i have a back to back here what do i want All right, that, like, hammer strength machine, that's plate loaded, multi-grip. Yep. Oh, the Batman row? The, like, chid, shit, humongous big daddy row?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. You know, it has, like, two handles, you can kind of like neutral grip and then the overhand wide. But it's, your chest is sitting upright. It's a, there's a chest support there, too. Hammer strength. Yeah, the hammer strength row.

Yeah, I wanted that. I wanted the chest supported row, but that's my close second. So, yeah, I know the machine well. I can't wait to see it in the screen on the screen Just the bulgiest thing ever Just like a house

Yeah I didn't really Biggest fucking thing ever All right I'm gonna go with dips All right Add him a little bit of shoulders And some triceps

All right cool So right now I'm on with next You're up now Right boss So we got lots And upper back stuff We got some delts

All right Let's go Um Cable Incline chest press Okay Oh yeah Okay, okay.

That's fine. That's a magic. Can we just do cable chest press on a bench? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I only had to fly, so. Okay, so I just, I don't think this draft could have gone any better for me. I'm feeling pretty good about mine.

This would have been my 101, 101, 102, 103, 104. That's how good I feel. So my third is going to be the barbell overhead press. Yeah. I just think that like, yeah, I'm not going to get any, like, shoulder abduction. I'm just going to get overhead pressing. But, like, I feel overhead pressing in my delts and in my drafts. and in my traps and in my triceps and my abs and then like if you get really good at it

like it's very difficult to develop like a good overhead press and not have an impressive like upper torso i don't think you'll have the cannonball delts you might get from like spamming laterals but like i really like the lift totally and then my last one is chin-ups which i think are like so amazing for biceps too oh yeah i kind of forgot about the arms but the reason i'm like a big fan of the chin is I needed a vertical pull and I do feel like I could call it weighted chin ups and progress it and just like I literally walked out of an upper body physique draft with dumbbell presses chest supported rows overhead presses and chin ups so I got the double horizontal double vertical every muscle hit and for some reason you'll be on the waiver wire in about an hour looking for the fucking new job whatever I got cut yeah I'm thinking I got all aspects covered too Overhead prets and picking up Kneeling Chitty fuck press

He's gonna go off this week The chin up's here, man That's out for four weeks, putting one bench All right, Matt, are you up, man? No, you are again, not a follow. I'm on IRB because I went Cable chest press. I went to lateral rays.

Okay, preacher curl. All right, yeah. The bicep is a nice one matter, guys. This is, I just went like, you know, a broad, you know, lap pulled down, a lot of back. Then I went lateral raise. You guys don't really have anything for the side delts.

My side delts are doing something when I'm pressing 225 over my head. I'm going to have some good anterior and posterior, but there's really only so much you can do for the lateral side of the, with the upper body. I just close my eyes and put my mind into my muscle when I'm overhead pressing. What do you mean?

I'll just go get it's a doorway. Every rep of my overhead press, I'm thinking side delts. So good luck with that. Mind muscle. Overpower. Yeah. Mind over, mind body connection.

I didn't know that we could like talk about the mind muscle connection. Well, you have to have telekinesis in order to do that. So if you don't possess that power, you're going to be small, bro. I'm doing the Arnold meditate and the muscle technique. Yeah. So. I just think you guys' shoulders aren't going to be as big as me. Hey, whatever, man. Okay, Matt, did you make your last bit? No, my last one, I'm going to go with, uh, incline dumbbell, bicep curl. Okay. I don't really have a lot of bicep. So I, I had dumbbell, the dumbbell bicep curl dips, uh, the chest supported, like strength hammer row and cable chess fly so i'm feeling i'm actually pretty good i like all my picks

well that's good because mine are better i i don't think so dumbbell chest press chest sported row let's track it bro the month of uh the month of september you do those four i'll do mine for and we'll see we'll see we'll let's do that let's track it all right i'm going to take a picture in perfect lighting with rock hard apps in three months we'll look at each other's physiques baby what's your team bro team name? No. What did you draft? What were your four exercises? I drafted lap pull down. I drafted preacher curl. I drafted incline or cable chest press with a bench. And I drafted another one. Oh, lateral raises. There you go. All right, guys, thanks so much for tuning into this episode. If you enjoyed it, be sure to leave a five star rating and review on Spotify, as well as on Apple

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