Dynamic Dialogue with Danny Matranga - 414: Training Intensity, Trump Coke, Government Shutdown + More

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

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Welcome in everybody to another episode of the Progressive Overload Project. As always, I'm your host, Danny Matranga, joined by co-host Matt Lakoko and Holden King. In this episode, we're going to discuss some fitness stuff, specifically training intensities and training volumes. We'll discuss kind of the new and growing debate around high-volume training and low-volume training, who could benefit more from which style and is one style. better. We'll talk about whether or not PhD attainment or like advanced degree attainment is worth your time in fitness. This has also been big, especially as people are like challenging the validity of certain PhDs from a nutritional standpoint. We'll talk about these high protein

products and the new cane sugar potis Coke, which is officially here. We'll talk about some of the differences between the American food system and the food system in Japan. We'll be heading in a week, probably by the time you're listening to this, to highlight some of the things that just don't quite work here in America and what we could do better. We'll talk about a recent study on artificial sweeteners related to weight, management, and gut health that I thought was fascinating. We'll talk a little bit about the presidential ballroom construction as well as some other things, sports gambling, and the Super Bowl halftime show.

I think you guys will enjoy this episode, but we'll kick it off first with kind of the high-volume low volume training debate that's been brewing. I tend to train with a more moderate or higher volume classically, but lately it's been more moderate to low. I think for anybody listening, like a good parameter is, I'd say if you're doing more than 10 sets for a muscle group in a workout that's moderate to high, if you're doing less than 10 sets, that's moderate to low. If you're doing like five sets, that's probably low.

um what did you guys say those are fair if you five sets for a muscle group low 10 sets moderate to high anything more than 10 that's you're doing a lot of training volume for that muscle yeah i'd say generally that that makes sense yeah i think that's pretty solid yeah um i do yeah like those so yesterday i'd hit hit some legs i did like like like working sets yeah meaningful sets like two three four five six low volume day i'd say yeah i've been doing my like low volume training stuff lately too but and that works and I think the evidence is continuing to show that that works and I think from a trend perspective for a while because bodybuilding was very popular and remains probably the most popular style of training with like just regular quote unquote gym people most bodybuilding programs are moderate or high volume because bodybuilders like to do multiple exercises and they like to do multiple sets not only because it is good for bodybuilding to like just train but like i do think it's it's part of the sport is this bodybuilders like on steroids or natural just natdies like people like people in general who like the physique sports they like

to train higher volumes and they like to train multiple x this is just my assertion because they enjoy the action of training they like the pump for sure yeah i think that's probably the most like the most important piece to people who prioritize that they want to go to the gym and get a pump and see it um which may or may not actually be fuck worth the shit for your gains but that is the style of training that has been the most popular and the most put out there by most strength coaches any program i've done from like any bodybuilding style coach in the 12 years i've been working out i'm probably getting five to seven exercises three to four sets each eight to 20 reps per exercise and i get cooked with that yeah if you train hell hard dude you can't even

make it to like the end of the week before you're like i'm dying if you sandbag it you can yeah absolutely and i think that's the whole point of the low versus the high volume training where yeah high volume training getting more sets you're going to make up for the lack of intensity yes lower volume training you're going to hopefully have an ability to push to a high intensity like that and that's where i think are you a beginner are you intermediate an advanced lift If you're more of an advanced lifter and you already have muscle and you're pretty strong and you understand your body in space and you know how to push close to failure, I think those low volume intensities, those low volume methods can work really well for you. On the flip side, if you're a beginner, like, this is what I like about Nazim. I haven't looked at Nazim for like a long time.

Good one thing. Everybody here, Nazim certified. Sponsor us, Nazim. What are you doing? Come on now. One thing I like that you guys did is you had this besides the name, muscular endurance, because what does that really mean? I think it's just ability to, like, do a lot of reps. Not be aerobically fatigued by the weightlift.

I honestly felt like that's what it meant. Because, like, if you train deconditioned people, you're like, yeah, bro, you're not supposed be breathing like that. Yeah, yeah, totally. This is bicep girls. Right. And you're like, oh, my God, your aerobic fitness is trash. But if you do these Nazan phase one, muscular endurance, you're right.

You get a lot of reps. You improve your skill that way, right? And if you don't have. to have a lot of skill to begin with and you're like oh this says do two sets of six barbell back squats you're going to spend like five minutes doing it and be like what the fuck was that yeah i don't really understand necessarily yet how to make those six reps be pretty freaking hard 100% i think you hit it the most underrated element of a higher volume approach is practice absolutely just actually doing it and

there's something to be said for like reps you just got to have a reps because two sets of six squats for somebody who's a great squatter and has great like proprioception squats deep squats close to failure that'll get it done but if you're all 20 minutes to do that yes yes and as you're like I'm going to warm up and I'm going to squat to get to your working sets for those sets that are going to give me the stimulus I mean I kind of do both with in my training with the high volume like I'll do a lot of sets but as I get up to like a one rep max just like what can i handle on that day that given week sort of thing and it's only with like mainly legs and overhead press but then after that i just go crush like machines or

stuff for like that's cool so it's like a slow build so i have like a lot of sets done in terms of a high volume but also like a lot of reps on the back end of a high volume so i only do like four exercises of workout sounds like you build you have one large exercise that takes a lot of time and you have a long ramp up period to that hit your working set and then just crush what's like. Yeah, I mean, the working sets are kind of just, like, figuring out what that one rep is going to be that day. Yeah. So, but, like, you know, submaximally, I still might only do a rep because I was like, you know, I feel like I got more.

I could have forced a second rep. Yeah. Yeah. I like those slow, hard, heavy reps. I just feel like my body needs exposure to that as I age. Cool. Mostly, that's why I do it. I like them too.

Yeah. I can't do as many of those as I used to. I also feel like. I've lost weight in the last couple months just because of my lifestyle, and my strength has gone down a little bit with it. And so, like, what was once an easy triple or set of five sometimes is a hard set of, like, two. And I can't really trust myself to train heavy singles right now because I feel like I can't calibrate my strength worth of shit.

But hard sets of four, hard sets of six, hard sets of eight are working for me mentally. and want to the point you made about like doing a number of sets sometimes i don't really have the bandwidth to identify exercises i want to push on that day so like fuck that sounds like shit and that sounds like shit well i found the two that don't sound like shit so i'll do six sets of them yeah you know and that is to you know 12 sets of back or like six sets of chin-ups weighted and like six sets of biceps and it's it's a back and bicep low volume day it was

only two lifts, but mentally, I'm more in, I'm like, dude, the hardest part for me is finding a list of exercises I'm going to want to push myself more. I know that sounds so way. That's the most underrated part of it. I think that was like, like finding some enjoyment out of it because it's going to suck. If you want to get anywhere, it's going to be a little difficult. You're going to have moments where like, man, I'm not motivated. I don't want to go. But like, like you said, two exercises, push it. It's all it's simple. It's got to be. Everyone's so different. Let time happen. Everyone's so different.

Just like you're telling me your lifestyle has changed, or your life has changed. Not your lifestyle, probably. Both have changed. And mine too. You know, I mean, I mentioned kids again and lack of time to eat as much, you know, really. I mean, you're so busy. And you're like, it's 4 o'clock I've had. Oh, my God.

Have I eaten the day? Like, I've had some of those happen. All the time. I'm trying to get better with that. But I had a client the other day who was like, hey, man, like, I really do, the workouts that I'm getting right now. I feel like I just don't have the mental. capacity to go into my garage gym, which is right there, and complete this workout because it's taking me like 45 minutes and I'm just gassed. I'm probably going to, and this is great

awareness by my client to give me, you know, to help me give him something that's going to work. He's like, hey, it'd probably better, if maybe I do like 20 minute workouts, I'm like, bro, done. Like literally pick two exercises, maybe three and just super set them 20 minutes in and out. If you do that Monday through Friday, bro, you're going to do way more training and your intensity is going to better and you're going to get way more out of it so that's another good example of like that's probably considered low volume 20 minutes right you're not going to get a oh my god absolutely yeah two exercises 20 minutes that's low volume yeah yeah and and and he just want we're going to try it I know he's going to get the results that he wants because the thing is is like if you go if you do something

consistent and you're pushing with some sort of intensity you're going to be great I think there's something there frankly like I do think you could make like a popular general population fitness program where you're like look you gotta do it every day but it's only 20 minutes and here it's like the rub it's just antagonist paired sets yeah so it's like on day one you do a push and a pull you're like set a 10 set a 10 rest set a 10 rest what and then when 20 minutes is up you're just done the next day it's a hinge and a squat yeah and then the next it's like abs and arms and then you're back through and i swear like with most people need resistance and they needed like be consistent with it i think most people could do that 20 minutes sounds so much less shitting that's

like two hours hell yeah it's almost under two hours a week it's 140 it's two hours and 20 minutes a week okay okay okay so it's 20 minutes seven days you're looking up into five days no but if you i think you could do something like that every day like i i do think you're like you don't need to take a day off you don't over train it's fucking 20 minutes pussy yeah it's like 90 minutes a week 100 minutes a week i don't want to get hung up on the math but yeah if we're doing it's In 25, it's crazy, but that would work. Absolutely. That would work very well for what most people want.

Like, if you gave me that 20 minutes to train as hard as I could, and then you gave me like two hours and compared my physique at the end of like six months, I would only look a little bit better from that extra six times more of training. I'm telling you, like, you're going to look a little better or you're going to like get hurt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like honestly, a lot of the benefits of training just come from the effort and the, like, in the effort being present for a few meaningful sets. It doesn't take much. No.

You guys want to talk about educational attainment in the fitness space? Because I think all three of us have degrees, which is pretty rare. Yeah. It's actually extremely rare because most trainers, for those of you who don't know, just have a certification, which is not super difficult to acquire. you can pass this exam with like limited studying and like base level understanding of the human body and probably not enough understanding of human psychology well recently a really popular person in the fitness industry got had their like dissertation just ripped apart so somebody

yeah i didn't hear about this yeah it's yeah it's i'm not going to name names but like anybody who's anybody will know what i'm talking about so I guess the file for the dissertation was still in the database that the university used for the uploading and the downloading of these things. And somehow somebody got a copy. Who's digging this up? The same person is digging 100 Biden's laptop.

I got two things that you can take with you. You can take this election defying incredibly consequentious laptop or you can take this PhD from this fitness guy. Give me that shit. I'm going to ruin his life. Fuck that. he's like done he's great i i i yeah he can't jump for shit i let's fuck it we can't hide anymore it's dr mike who's actually been on the pod so i like dr mike i don't have i haven't any problems with him i know he said some shit that people are like one time he made a comment

about race that people were like what the fuck i don't even remember what it was and i personally do not agree with dr mike on almost anything he says about economics or race we're just like, we probably agree on like 90% of race. I just don't agree with him on that one comment, and I know that politically and economically we're super different. He's more libertarian. I'm more progressive. Other than that, like,

we agree on a lot of the same fitness stuff, but that dissertation coming down, people looking at it and being like, oh, this isn't like what I thought it would look like. And like there's typos and whatever. And I honestly completely checked out at that point. So this is where people who listen that are like stewards of fitness are going to be like, You guys are lazy.

You need to hold them to a higher account. And I'm just, I checked out because I couldn't handle that level of like, oh, somebody that we look up to didn't do perfect. Let's all get views and likes and clout by tearing them to shit. And then let's make fun of their physical capabilities. Yes. You know, jumping and running stuff. And that's like, and then let's go even further to say that bodybuilding is stupid for being an athlete.

And you shouldn't. It's completely torching this dude. Dude, it's gone, in my opinion, it went way too far because it's like, all right, even if you were to say that the man's PhD was completely illegitimate, if you actually have ever had a conversation with him, you can tell he has a Ph.D. level intellect. So what are we really doing here other than what maybe we should do, which is talk about, hey, is it too easy to get an exercise science PhD? or like is it meaningful is the work you go do rigorous enough that uh you deserve to be called

doctor and frankly i don't all i will say is i don't really care to be the arbiter of that because i feel like the work that i'm most inclined to do with people's health i can do without any of that education and staying completely out of the like oftentimes dick measuring that is degrees i don't know man i i personally think it's like a lot of it comes from people who did not get a degree, who want to jump on the legitimization of degrees. See, I told you, you don't need that shit. I'm just as smart as him, and I don't have one. I don't like that either.

I look at that, like, due to broken clocks, right, twice a day, like, come on. What I like about Mike and people with PhDs who represent fitness and nutrition without lying, I like that he's really, you know, he tells the truth. And he knows how to read. I think he's super, super straightforward and evidence-based. And I've seen the memes and the worst takes. And I'm just like... There's so much bad information out there.

And there's so many people taking advantage of their Ph.D. And, you know, if you're listening to some of the PhD, you just remember that you just know, like, what is that Ph.D. in? Like, is... Yeah, they have a PhD in psychology, and they're talking about nutrition. And they sell a book. And they sell supplements. You could probably disregard what they're talking about that.

Every single person on Instagram. who calls themselves or social media in general who calls themselves doctor something isn't a phd in that field that they are like a chiropractor who fucking wants people to think that their doctor gut health it's like oh wow you have a phd in microbiota and you know gastroenterological blah blah blah oh no dude i'm a chiropractor who specializes in gut health it's like no you're not and and um dude you know like this this sounds ridiculous but the other day i was was on threads and somebody was posting from a doctor account about seed oils and I clicked on it and they were a fucking dentist and it's like to be a dentist you do need to be intelligent you do need to

have medical training and you probably do know more about nutrition than most people but it's always seems super apparent to me when people use that term doctor to facilitate like a massive level of trust from people when they talk about something medical that isn't their expertise and it's like dude okay you don't get like a trauma surgery from a dentist they're both doctors technically yeah but like dude if you're a phd in exercise science even if it was a shitty program and you're a pro bodybuilder you probably know more about muscle growth than like most people and you probably just get to have that like i don't know if i don't know if the effort to delegitimize that success is worth the energy i think it is more people trying to get clout and i'm all for

like saying like hey this process needs to be more rigorous and hard so that we only get the best of the best work done and if you do decide to go and get a PhD well not you but when you see somebody with a PhD again see what that's in number one number two i see a lot of people with PhDs who just cherry pick data yeah they will just continue to take an outlier when all this information is trending this way over the last decade or whatever and they'll take this one outlier and they'll just make it the end all be all for whatever subject it is and they'll use that to again sell something and just make money because they have a PhD so because they have that their words way way heavier for for a lot of people on Instagram right and social media where we get our information from

so if you are you know if you are good at researching you don't have to be you don't have to be a PhD to be good at research and you really don't but understand that large language models that we all have like honestly you have a super researcher in your pocket like ask that gpt anything in deep research mode and you will get high quality information delivered to you you the barrier for that is now almost zero we can all research better well there's there's the alan aragon's of the world out there good example good example he's not you know he doesn't have a phd but great interpreter of the science you know yeah he is somebody that all of us probably look up to and you know I love his book and well his I think he has multiple no he doesn't he has a book on research review

okay I didn't read that one I like his book on protein and I just like I've I've been following him ever since I got into fitness and he's just one of those guys who he's in the lab he's doing the research he's you know not falsifying anything he's not a charlatan he's a really standout guy and thank God people like that and people like us too in our space like our okay I feel really comfortable and confident giving people information about obviously nutrition. I don't see myself making an effort to tear someone's Ph.D. down or to attain one myself to gain the knowledge that maybe I should gain or the respect. I honestly feel like I can do what I need to do in fitness with my certification in my bachelor's degree. And I wouldn't

recommend anybody in fitness go out and get a PhD, frankly, unless it's your passion. And academia is your passion then by all means like i think it's wonderful like if that you've literally found your passion and your undergrad is like i want to be in the lab i want to learn i want to get another degree but i don't know if it's really worth it like i would be on it i i don't think a lot of the success these people have attained is because they have done that extra schooling it's more from the label that you get for having doctor i do think that there's plenty of intelligent people that aren't doctors who could be very successful in fitness so i wouldn't i personally would not go to attain a phd in exercise related topics yeah i think you hit the nail

on the head when anyone who's like of academia and that genuinely curious and really wants to study it like can generate a level a knowledge base that can be very helpful i do want to see mike potentially just talk about it and be like hey yeah you know what i wasn't the best student or or whatever or i fucked up on that paper and i went back and i revised it because i felt embarrassed or whatever i think something like that happened did it i didn't hear that like that either yeah yeah that's what really bubbled it over was he had said actually that wasn't the finished copy and then it turned out maybe it was i don't know i it that's where it gets really sticky yeah because now it's like what does it mean when somebody who has a phd and who's highly

regarded as being truthful and honest it's like oh yeah well you know you know those guys, they're lying about things and they're not admitting it. And it kind of taints the... Dude, for sure. That is something that has happened in the wake of this. It's like every PhD hater is like, see, I told you, the institutions of academia are garbage and they just let anybody through. And it's like, okay, that's your insecurity speaking.

I can hear. I can feel it. And when my head goes, it's like, what we're dealing with now in our country and with public health, right? And it's important to have the credentials. We're going to talk about that right now. as we pivot into nutrition. We did get a big release from the Coca-Cola company,

and, to your point, holding, we got a formal endorsement from the Office of Health and Human Services. I'm going to read this tweet to you, okay? This is fucking unbelievable. Oh, God. So remember, I'm sure you guys could remember a couple years ago,

we had this pandemic called a COVID-19 pandemic, and a lot of people were furious about the advice that the offices of HHS and the offices of the CDC were giving people. They were like, this is crazy advice. They were like, hey, honestly. Yeah,

I don't understand, all that. Like, great, this is an infringement on my freedom. Okay, these are, there's crazy advice. I, yo, what are you going to do? Listen to them? Like, uh, I don't know, man. Like, maybe I am kind of fucking stupid at viruses, but I would be honest,

I get sick all the time. I'm still working on the wash my hands. Well, I think that, you know, they have, new people in charge, but giving out even worse advice now. So this is a real tweet from the Office of HHS retweeting,

retweet, quote tweeting a Fox business article. So Fox Business says, Cain comeback. Coca-Cola has begun rolling out soda made with cane sugar nationwide in a 12-ounce single-serve glass bottle. Months after President Trump urged the company

to bring it back. And they retweet that. This is the Office of Health and Human Services. They retweet this thank you, POTUS. So the Office of Health and Human Services is publicly thanking the president for a new soda, which is probably the last thing that they should recommend Americans drink,

perhaps other than alcohol. Right. So I just think, like, there was a world where people would have been like, what the fuck are you doing and co-signing and endorsing soda? But we're like past, everything's so crazy now that people like,

ah, it's just whatever. Yeah. They have to suck his cock because he did something. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, you're right. We do need to thank him for Coca-Cola launching a new product. We got sugar and coke.

We got lower gas prices and we got a tyrannical government. Wait, don't forget about no inflation and grocery prices being down. The same. They're the same, I heard, even though they're not. Somebody did tell me that there are like a ton of people who grow cane sugar in Florida. They are very close friends with Donald Trump Who I just showed up Bukukes on Coke now having to fill the demand for this

But this formula has always been around Ironically it is of course called the Mexican Coke Because in Mexico cane sugar is easier to make Coca-Cola with Than in America because we subsidized corn So we use corn sugar That makes sense Yeah, it doesn't What doesn't make sense is why the fuck we subsidize corn

Like subsidized fucking strawberries or subsidizing Greek yogurt corn wheat soy soy as well subsidizing

we subsidized soy and then undermine the soy market with tariffs and fucking wasted all those years of subsidies let's subsidize like whole foods well I want to subsidize some fucking vegetables some fruit how about some avocados

subsidizing the companies that we're subsidizing the soy the corn the wheat and all this turned into UPS the easiest. Exactly. It's the, it's just, we subsidize the raw materials

that go into making the foods that make us the fattest. Yes. What do you think would happen if we took, Maha? Maha. What do you think that happened if we took, yeah,

the Coke thing is like, they literally were like a huge win for Maha. I'm like, soda is not a win for anybody. The only soda that's good is diet soda. And Trump is a consumer of like a dozen of those a day. which is a win would be just telling everyone that diet soda is better for them because of the calorie dude like that would be a win artificial sweeteners though honestly you know i would jizz my pants if a government

agency came out and said diet soda is good for you it'd be a cleanup on aisle seven okay because i i am so over people being like artificial sweeteners are just killing everybody i know it i have a friend who's his cousin drank a diet coke and she had 12 different types of rectal cancer and died the next day. It's like, no, you... They're fucking good. No, you do not. You know so many people who house, like, a half a dozen diet drinks a day.

You don't give a shit. It's so innocuous. And, like, the best switch we could make from public health is taking the 50,000 calories people drink every year from soda and making it zero. Right. We talked about this before. If snap benefits only worked on diet drinks, you'd see huge drops in weight. Because all of a sudden, people would be bomb.

buying zero calorie soda instead of full calorie. Right. You know what I like about diet drinks is they're not any more expensive. No, they're no more expensive. So what about these new products we're seeing in stores now with like no dyes, no seed oils? Yep. Are those going to be less accessible for people who eat them the most because they're going to be pricier?

They are mostly. Bro, those are going like Oliver's and Whole Foods. I see them at Safeway. Really? I see simply Doritos at Safeway. Die free and the bag is smaller and the price is higher. And now we're going to add. Have you seen a Quest chip, like, commercials with their, like, tagline.

It goes, who cares if you're cheat, if you're cheating? You know, like, they use that tagline for, like, the protein chips. Who cares if you're cheating? Yeah. It's actually kind of good. Yeah. But I feel like I'm seeing it more from large producers of junk food who are trying to get hip with what consumers want, and they're pricing it up.

Of course. You're paying more for the health halo. Like, but to your point, like, people will have, we'll always have to pay more for the food that makes them the healthiest because we subsidize these like grains that can be turned into UPFs and not the food that we probably should like fruits and vegetables yeah pretty sad dude um and hopefully we'll this is maybe this is like you said before this is kind of what we need um we kind of need this circus to happen and i need to see what happens and we're going to you know we're going to be looking at data down the road like

are more of these foods being purchased are less of them being purchased right are people eating more UPFs now is diabetes going up, more obesity. And I have a feeling that we're potentially having that direction. That's what's going to really show is like what happens to the disease risks, what happens to the obesity rates. And like for sure, like all of that has to get compared to like, all right, what unnecessary loss of life was there in unvaccinated kids because that like totally, that's totally optional right and that's all happening at the same time is like we're we're goofing off about the

the soda cane sugar shit and celebrating it and it's like ah whatever you know americans eat like shit well also that same office is responsible for our vaccine policy and like we have low really low vaccine rates and like key parts of the country and we're seeing like shit like measles and say okay well even if we had like a marginal improvement from this maha movement i'd be like dude like what at what cost at what cost and like the cost like they think about the costs honestly they just think about doing and getting credit for because like how when you can you in good faith like see some of this stuff and do some of this stuff and let's bring back a disease we eradicated 30 years ago and i killed a bunch of people and we fixed it and no just kidding

Robert Kennedy's done that, and he went to Samoa and, like, really went out of his way to tell these people, vaccines were super-duper dangerous. Like what, they caused cancer? I'm sure he said a variety of things, but they all done, like, tons of kids died. And he was like, oh. Why don't people, why isn't this in headlines or on the news anywhere? It was when he was running for president. Okay. But like, like, forgotten now.

Yes, because there is so much shit that happens. But yeah, it is actually crazy that the head of H. HHS was doing like anti-vax fucking seminars in places and leaving, and then the fucking kids were dying of vaccine preventable causes. Like you're leaving a trail, bro. Right. This is what I was talking about earlier about taking an outlier in the scientifics, in the space when it comes to like vaccines and all the data that we have on it.

And then this one thing says, well, you know, there could be linked to cancer. And so we're going to use that and stoke fear into people and now make these crazy public health decisions that are, you know, making people decide, oh, I actually don't need to do that or I'm not going to get vaccinated. So, for instance, like the whole, oh, the COVID vaccine causes cancer or vaccines cause cancer. Well, come to find out that people who get vaccinated go and see the doctor more. And they live long enough to get cancer.

That is like, thank you. You know who doesn't get cancer? Kids who died of measles. Yeah. Yeah. Well, with this study of measles. With this study that RFK was talking about with the cancer. and the link to vaccines

apparently the link to the cancer was happening like a few days after they got the vaccine which was like okay how the hell is that happening well they went they go to the doctor and they talk about oh I have this like I've lost weight or I feel like shit or whatever and they go and they get diagnosed with cancer like afterwards because they're more likely to get a diagnosis

because they go to the fucking doctor and that is like that makes so much sense doesn't it but he regularly misses up mistake the correlation causation. He does this with Tylenol and circumcised and all of it. He's like, well, there was this study that showed this is linked to this. And it's like, yes, okay. Well, and that's just like, that's because when this happens, all those others have happens and like this correlation causation.

They teach it in like the first day of every biology class in college. I know you're a lawyer. So it's kind of hard, but like bear with me broke. It's hard. Yeah, how is RFK, you know, not, how is he not fit to be the head of HHS? bro like i heard that shit that's probably uh that probably is a job where you got to have a phd you know i don't think he wasn't the last one well the last no the assistant head of hHS rachel levin was a trans woman which any time you go like hey i don't think rfk is that good at his job

oh yeah the last person to do his job was a trans person so does that mean that you want a tranny running the country's health programs like i actually just think how did you get that I actually just think Robert Kennedy's unqualified. Did you see the picture of the trans woman I sent you? Yes. I sent you a picture of a trans woman with a meme on it. Have you seen RFK, bro? He's jacked.

Yeah. We should totally have him. I don't even have the heart to tell these fucking people that that person was not the fucking person running HHS. The guy running HHS's name was Xavier Brissara. No one gives the flying fuck about him. You guys don't even know he's running to be the governor of our fucking state. No.

Actually, I think I saw that this morning on CalShare. so yeah so like there she wasn't even running shit she just had a assistant cabinet position but because rfk is not a trans woman he's imminently qualified to run the country's health that's that is where we're at right and that to me seems pretty cooked well it has nothing to do with knowing anything about anything he's getting questioned he's getting you know he's in the in the courthouse saying you know they're talking to him about all the things right they're asking him all these questions and he's just sitting there lying the entire time people want him fired i don't know why he he's not going to step down obviously but i don't know how long he could be in this position

and i don't know i'll tell you i do he can be in this position until he becomes liability at which point trump would probably cut him loose and like unfortunately like he's actually i think a little more popular than Trump. So Trump's aware of that. Yeah. I feel like everybody, hopefully, except maybe, he said, he's not,

he's not that popular. How about the, wow, I can't think of his name, the bald-headed Nazi. Oh, Stephen Miller. He doesn't have a real job other than helping Trump. Like, he's, he's like,

assistant to the assistant regional manager the tight shrewd. He's the court gesture. He's hearing, talk about how he saved, saved America. This country was. I was going to die until you showed up. It was literally on the brink of death.

And then you saved it. All 350 million saved. Speaking of which, I wanted to ask you this. We were talking about the ballroom. And do you know how much the ballroom is going to cost? Well, it was 100 million, and then it was 200 million, and then it was 300 million, and potentially more now. Okay. So you do know.

Excellent. We're sitting at 300 million. All private donations, no taxpayer funded money. Shut up. I did see that. I got told that about a thousand times. yesterday on the internet. Shut the fuck up,

Danny. It's not taxpayer money that's paying for the ballroom, you fucking idiot. That's what I understand. I'm like, you're right. It's just fucking billionaires

giving Trump money to build his own ballroom that will totally not result in them getting tremendous benefit from fucking being bribed. And where was this money going to go before these massive tax cuts for billionaires? Yeah.

You know what? Since you gave me that tax cut, I've been wanting to help you. Actually, I want to destroy 40% of the White House. So, here is my question, hold it. The ballroom is a $300 million infrastructure project. Do you know how much Thomas Jefferson paid, or the United States paid during the Jefferson administration, to purchase all of the greater Louisiana purchase territories from Russia?

What, a couple hundred thousand? Fifteen million. So this ballroom is 20 times that. Now, I know that's stupid because of inflation. but like think about the presidential legacy like think about their ghosts up in heaven being like hey it's Trump ghost nice dude hey Thomas Jefferson's ghost what's going on man they're like hey you fucking idiot 300 million for a ballroom dude I got half a continent for 15 million fucking art of the deal my ass so they approximate the the landmass I was acquired in the Louisiana

purchase to about 15 states today so if you're like you got this ballroom adjacent to the one house. Yeah. Or you could own 15 states. However, it's 20 times less to own the 15 states in like 18, whatever the fuck it was. So I get all this land, 15 states worth of territory. Man, if that doesn't show you how inflation works, I don't know what. That is the best example of how inflation works ever.

You know the price per acre in that purchase? Four cents. That's the thing I did. That's the thing I did remember. Yeah, let's compare that to housing. now. Yeah. I mean, housing costs are not coming down, even though the mortgage rates are the lowest they've been in a long time, which I actually read the other day. Yeah. Well, have they gone down another half? That is like a win for housing affordability. We have not seen a Fed rate cut. We probably

will. But the treasury that kind of is tied closest to the mortgage rate, I guess, is the 10-year treasury or the 10-year T bill, they call it. Treasury? The 10-year T-bill. It's these long, outstanding treasury bills that we issue our debt out on, and the rate that we issue those on is more similar to the mortgage rate. When the Fed changes it, they change something called the federal funds rate. It's a little different, but it affects the other things. It doesn't fucking matter. What matters is the mortgage rates are pretty low for where they've been the last year,

and nobody's buying houses because they're too expensive and they don't have money. Right. And I do think when you have a $300 million ballroom being done, built by the very wealthy air of a very wealthy real estate operation and more people buying hamburger helper in the meantime yeah it's just like i posted i posted this on my fucking my my my my threads i was like bro the optics on this are not good like it just looks like oh damn what are you building over there a literal room just for rich people to dance in like who will ever go to a ballroom in their fucking life what were

Working class American man is like, hell yeah, fucking one of that ballroom, gnash and gold for me to dance and dancing. Fucking A, bro, what? Nobody in all this during a government shutdown that seems to be no end in sight. Yeah, oh, we got time to work on building the ballroom that cost, this is the priority. It costs 50% of the White House. We didn't build it next to the White House. We actually tore down like 40% of it.

And all that history. that will be replaced by a giant dancing room for rich people. And, like, that should bother you because it's not about the fucking ballroom. Totally. It's about the fact that the president is certain that his desire for a ballroom matters more than the maintenance of our country's history. He literally said that was his top priority the other day, was while the government is shut down.

Caroline left said it. But repeated it from who's not. No, he did. I didn't say it. They both said it. I know what you're talking about it. When they asked him about. The president already is the ballroom.

Well, sir, the president has shut down the government and snap benefits are about to leave and health care. Did you guys? He actually plans on getting paid for that swing by suing the OJ. The fucking treasury. No, the Department of Justice. Oh, sorry. Well, I mean, the money's coming from the treasury no matter what.

How much $250 million? Pretty much. He said he wants $2.30. and restitution for all of the shit he had to deal with, for all of the crimes he very much did. When he gets the bill back for the cost of the East Wing, he'll just put that number out there.

No, we're going to increase the debt another trillion. We're not paying our tax dollars to this. That was right. He was like, no, dude, that's like his top thing. And he was like, well, Carolyn Levitt said it, but he did say that because like two months ago, when Charlie Kirk was shot, they asked him the next

fucking day, sir, how are you feeling about your friend, Jimmy fucking Kimmel got fired for this. This is literally what Jimmy Kimmel got fired. He was like, oh, yeah. Oh, it's too bad. But you know what I am fucking pumped about this? Look over there.

You see that? No, he didn't say that's too bad. He said, I'm doing quite well. Yeah, he didn't say that. And also look over at that ballroom getting. Candice Owens is, I guess, saying that Trump's the one who killed him. So that's great. I'm sure that'll be good.

What, Trump was up there? On the top of the building? Stop. I shouldn't do that. he jumped down man can you imagine him perfect life perfect grace ninja like some say

six three two twenty five that move like Derek Henry back flip to no scope okay so she's not saying he says she's saying she indirectly I didn't watch the video I just saw somebody share

and I was like well I mean yeah because now that the Epstein thing has basically blown up in the face of every maniac on the internet who needed to sell you a conspiracy They were like, fuck, damn, okay, well, I look kind of stupid because I told everybody it was Obama and all these libs. It turns out our guys fucking enjoying the shit out of West Palm Beach. So that's not going to work anymore.

Hey, you know what conspiracy theory always works? It was the Jews. And so she started with the, oh, Charlie Creek was killed by Israel. And now I guess she's just like full blown in on the Trump. And there's a plan. And, like, I get really humble. up on the fact that it's like do we need to explain crazy kids. We're putting too much

energy into this. Well, that's a whole other thing too is like the case for this Tyler Robinson guy like literally isn't even there. They don't even have an autopsy done apparently on Charlie Kirk's body. So there's conspiracy theories in like every direction. It's just like best to just avoid it all costs. And they ripped up

the entire school apparently. Yeah, like literally a week or two after it. I haven't been following up on any of this because to me it seems really obvious that a crazy young man did something crazy with a firearm. Yeah, no, they're now saying, like, he's probably going to be killed in prison before his trial.

Like, it's at that point. Well, that does it. That does not surprise me. I mean, you still did murder somebody in cold blood, so maybe. Yes. I mean, that will, that's, that's, that's, generally not received. All nonsense. Yeah.

It's too hard to keep track of. So on the nutrition slash politics front, there are like 42 billion people who snap benefits will be produced dramatically. in like five days. If this shutdown continues. It should have been saving those snap benefits up, though. I'm sorry. You ran out.

I weren't you eating tap around. There are tons of, like, little news blurbs. Like, be sure to buy some non-perishables with your snap this week. Oh, my God. Like, furious. People are like, well, fuck them. They don't need the money. They don't need this and that.

And like, here's the thing. I keep seeing articles. Like, are the Republicans and the Democrats really going to let people run out of food assistance when there's a shutdown, like, are they really going to let this happen? And I'm like, do you not realize they voted to, like, defund that program by hundreds of millions of dollars over the next 10 years? Like, I would absolutely not call their bluff on if, oh, you will fucking cut it massively over a decade, but we wouldn't like let it skip for a week.

Bullshit, I would be very much. They were in favor of it. I would anticipate that people lose some snap benefits. Like, I don't see. Like, nobody. going to end this shutdown until it is politically beneficial for them to do it or politically politically negative for them not to and one thing that i think is crazy is like you want to get into a you want to get into a what's toxic for me match with donald trump who quite literally

mr toxic well not nothing sticks to him like you want to be oh okay you we're going to play a game of chicken, and the game of chicken is, who's going to stop this shutdown first because it makes them look bad? You want to play a game of who's going to chicken out on what makes him look bad with that guy? You're probably going to lose, man.

I don't think he gives a fuck. They've done a really good job at just moving the whole host. Yeah. Thank you. Making people think that this is something that's really not and blaming on the opposition and just trying to have political, you know, to just do things just for political advantage.

Yeah, well, the Democrat side of this is we're not going to fund the government because the government you want us to sign off on is going to take these benefits from people. Yeah. And we're going to say that so much that when this does end and when that does happen, you're going to think it was them. Right. And then they're doing the opposite. They're like, well, we're trying to tell people that you're the ones holding up their food assistance.

Well, we're telling people it's you because when it does happen, they'll remember it's you. And it's all about trying to stick someone with the hot potato of fucking poor people at a health care and food assistance. And it's like, That's so disgusting for me. They can open the government up right now if they want to. They are literally in charge of everything they own.

They own. Yes. They own the Senate. And one of the first fucking votes that should be called is the vote for this discharged position on these Epstein files, which we will not see. And that's probably another reason why this is all delayed is who. My hot take is that is the sole reason the government. shut down. Yeah, I think

the Dems are like, dude, we got to do it this time. Well, we haven't even talked about the health care costs. I mean, that's one of the biggest That's, ultimately, that's why Democrats are like, this is where the fucking line is. Well, dude, and they want to get ahead of it. They want to be like, we told you, we didn't want to sign off on this

and that this was on them. And we got to fix this shit for a month, enough that like some of the American people were like, oh, this is their choice. Because, like, most people, if you were to walk up to the average American on the street and say, are you on an Obamacare subsidized health care plan? Like, a lot of them would say yes.

And then you say, are you aware of how the big beautiful bill will affect the cost of your health care? They'd be like, no, I have no idea. And this is the battle over when those things go up, who do people blame? Right. And using this vacuum of time to kind of launch that around. How can you not blame who's in charge? How can you not change?

Totally. How can you not look at the big beautiful bill and see the trillions of dollars of those? Because it's hard to read. It's like not easy, you know, and somebody could present it to you, and somebody could make it sound like this is good for you. It's all of the, it's really hidden in there, and it's over a span of a decade, and it's really hard to identify that as a citizen. I think what really, like, makes it click to me is when I'm going to the grocery store.

It happens to me all the time, and I'm buying shit, and I'm like, damn, how do people who are struggling afford to feed their family right now how do the people who make $20 an hour or less buy any of these things you know it's like really it's really sad and I

start thinking okay well obviously food assistance exists because cereal is $8 a box and like that's half of an hour's work for a minimum wage worker well that's what we're seeing now we're seeing the tariffs putting the cost on the consumer now and we're seeing everything

everything balloon in price. And with going back to the health care costs and the substantial increase that we're going to see, I just heard like, oh, for example, a couple in Maine, further stayed away from here, a couple in Maine making $80,000 a year. One person makes $40,000, other makes $40, that's not a lot of money. Their health care costs going up to the... 50 to 75% is what people expect on ACA plans. Who has an extra, it was like $16,000 a year to spend on that?

So it's going to be, shit. Do I buy food? Do I pay my rent? Do I have to keep health care? Do I rob a grocery store? Dude, before we started a podcast, I was talking to somebody who told me that their car insurance went up extremely high. Like, my car insurance went through the roof. And car insurance is going up because most car parts are not made in America.

And so when cars go in for repairs, repair costs are way higher now because it takes a lot longer to get parts and those parts cost more. So the insurance companies are getting ahead. Like if your car insurance and your health insurance are going up, for a lot of people, those are like fixed costs. I can't afford not to have it. You do not want people not having health care. You do not want people not having car insurance. You do not want people not having food on their table. That is when people start, I think.

That's when a revolution That's when things crazy shit happens And like I'm not I am not calling for anything crazy Or saying anything crazies can happen But I do think there's just a growing pressure On people who are struggling right now And I am constantly interacting with the economy

And thinking about people who are where I was When I was 18, 19, 20 Just getting by paycheck to paycheck And I'm like fuck There's no way These people are Are able to get through the week without tremendous stress and like financial stress is so bad for you in the richest country on

earth like forgive me for being a little bit frustrated that everybody's like we're already at this place with who somebody said it about the hamburger helper sales being at an all time high worried about our mental health i mean this is going to really add to it i don't see anything that could add to it more than people not being able to afford food or decide if they're going to pay their rent or at the end of the month and there's something like ripping away something from somebody who doesn't really have much to begin with like low income housing people that are like on snap benefits just not a huge income is like America first like how is that this is why first and we're talking about what is it 42 million of them are facing like a this potential

problem yeah 42 million people will have their snap benefits reduced that's crazy that's like 15% of the country so snap benefits a lot of people farmers losing their farms yeah a lot less fresh food in the stores everything going up stock markets going up yeah which is good but so is inflation i think this goes back to what i heard and this trumps like yeah we're not going to be um trading with canada at all anymore because of what they put out with what ronald regan had said about what how oh yeah yeah and he said they might be good at first and i think that's literally what we're experiencing right now of course a i puts a huge it's it's a it's a crazy time right now

and it's just like this perfect storm and that's why we're seeing what might be good at first um harrow the start of his his quote that like Oh, he said they might work as first where companies try to take on these costs and realize they have to put it. No, he didn't say anything about AI. He was trying to say the video

of Reagan was AI. He said it was like fake. Yeah. But Ronald Reagan historically was not a pro-tariff president and people who paid attention to politics when Ronald Reagan was president could tell you that and people are trying to revise that on the right. Be like, of course he was. He would love what this is. I

just think Canada made like an ad that really tickled him and he just lost his shit. Where do we get our lumber from? Canada mostly. Where else? Anywhere out do we know of? I think it's most question. I think a lot of our lumber is Canadian lumber. That's just pretty stupid because they have a lot more trees and they're way better quality. And we don't have a housing crisis we can only build our way out of. Control like the electrical, I think, for like 40% of the Midwest. Ontario is a huge producer of U.S. energy.

That's why that salted him so much. You just can't take the guy serious And he's so fucking dangerous Because he's so goddamn emotional He's living in his own lava Speeding of things that are driven by emotions And related to finance And the economic anxiety

That kind of fuels all this Sports betting I'm just gonna read you guys Some statistics on sports betting Okay Yeah 10% of men Aged 18 to 30

Have gambling behavior That is indicative of a problem nearly 48% or nearly half, 48% of men 18 to 49 have an account with at least one online sports book. Among men 16 to 25, 79% begun gambling before it was legal. Jesus. Young men under 45 and especially low-income counties experienced greater financial harm from legalized sports books. And in youth, 14 to 21, 68% reported gambling in the past. year. So it's like pretty much happening with like all young men, but even teenagers. They're getting

exposed to what, you know, the action and the excitement of gambling. A lot of it is through sports, but you can do online blackjack and stuff. I see a lot of that stuff on social media, like week by week by the game. It's like, stop scrolling. This is the can't miss four leg parlay for tonight's game. And I know like at that age, that's when these kids are like roughly first getting phones. automatically on social media impressionable immediately when i was 16 17 18 i'm playing sports man like i'm going to school like i'm hanging out with my friends like i never once thought about gambling but if it's scary that i was born when i was born i'm really glad i could not gamble on sports or on my phone when i was 18 absolutely i don't these fuckers allow that i would have been because

it's so much of money involved with it they know but it's a detriment dude this should tell you how They make so much money that they are able to give you free money to gamble just to get you to sign up. I know. And they, I just like, we've talked about it a lot. We all love sports. I've gambled a lot on sports and I'm constantly doing it and like catching myself being like, this is like compulsive and totally dopaminergic and you're trying to catch a fix. And before we started recording, Holden had said like, yeah, I came, I was like driving over here and I threw 600 bucks in the,

fucking brokerage account and it felt great and i was like oh yeah it also just feels good to invest your money uh you get you don't get the same dopamine hit as winning a bet but it's consistent it actually feels good every time and like that builds the positive habit the same way that the gambling can build like the negative habit so i actually thought that was a good call out to just be like yeah that felt so good too because we're chasing people young men are including us are chasing something when we gamble absolutely and you see you know the thrill to two to three years of what you could make on a two thousand dollar investment in invidia and you're like whoa and i get it yeah i love those like hindsight statistics that you're referring to you're like i don't think i

could make that much money gambling in two years i know i can't because it's fucking so lucky you think that you're doing enough research and you know what you're talking about you know anything you know ball you don't you don't know what the fuck is going to happen okay it's a good point like you not know it's random if you win it's purely luck it's purely luck like i don't care what players hot i i've done this shit okay like i put you know smaller amounts of money like i'm not i have a family i'm not doing any like stupid ass shit and i got lucky and i won and it was like oh my god i'm winning i'm winning i can do i must be super smart i know what i'm talking about i know i'm doing you don't and you know

I'm not going to say like some of this shit could be fixed Maybe in the NBA I mean I can't make you feel good You know about When you lose When you lose It could ruin your whole fucking day It can ruin your whole life

If you're one of those rare people You can ruin your whole life Why do you think they give you money to start Because they're hoping that you win Because if you win You're going to be stuck for life bro and like i do think that in a world where you train a professional sports gambler

retired because he knows it's bad for him and what did he say don't gamble on sports it's stupid put your money where instead in the s and p five obviously yeah which is you're not gambling to make money maybe you're not gambling to make money maybe you're just gambling for the thrill of it and if that's so dangerous like fucking five bucks man yeah like like you can have fun and enjoy a thursday night football game and put five bucks on a

game and not you know and feel like oh i lost those five bucks it's fine instead i put like a hundred on the game i mean this economy you lose that's groceries for a single person dude people i honestly think some of the some of the reason everybody's fucked up economically is because when we were getting free money during covid we were all spending it like imbeciles yeah and everybody was like what are you talking about i have a three hundred dollar a month door dash budget bitch i've been maintaining it since 2021 and it's like yeah well the stimmy so i'm coming in a number When the Stimmy stop, things got a little tighter, and you were still ripping the DoorDash and the gambling,

and, like, I think a lot of these gambling habits are left over from the stimulus economy. And I think there's a thought. I know I've had that thought. I thought last week. I won big. Like, I picked five teams to win at 10 o'clock gambling. I'm completely honest.

And hit them all. And I put 50 bucks on it. It was like $450 payout. Nice. Holy shit. I can make an extra. I'm a dumb fuck. No, you're not going to make an extra anything.

Oh my God, I can quit my job. So I took that money and I took 300 of it and put it in the S&P. And I had 150 in there and guess what? That shit's gone. Yeah, dude, every time, every time. Every time. I had hit on a few big parlay's last season. I was like, boom, I'm going to reward myself by taking most of this out, but I'm fucking bawling, bro.

I'm for sure leaving it in here. check and this is the thing good at this is the thing i got 200 in here so that's four fifty dollars shots and i just hit on a 50 dollars shots you know if i get four more i'm going to hit on these two this is never going to stop and i'm out of money yeah what how did that happen it's like man if i could make 500 extra dollars a month gambling some of you guys have had this thought and i'm telling you what this is the danger this is the danger of gambling because it's not going to happen it's not the best gambler in the world that literally, I think I know

because you train him. One of them, one of them. He's really good. He's been successful in sports. He's like, yeah, I'm done betting on football. I'm done betting on, I'm done, I'm not doing parlayas. He's the best. He's the best thing.

He's the best thing. We are all in a fantasy league with this guy. So we're all in the same fucking fantasy league with this guy. We recruited him. But we said, bro, we want you in the league. And like every week on Monday, oh my God, I can't believe I benched Orande Gadsen. man, what the hell was I thinking?

So it's like, you know what? None of us fucking no shit. None of us no shit. Even in fantasy, like, yes, he's undefeated in winning in the league. But, like, even in fantasy, like, even the best in the world. I traded in Pooka Nuku. I trade in Pooka Nuku and Quinchawn Judkins

for fucking T. Higgins and Brock Bowers. Well, I'm going to show him. I don't need to win. He definitely knew something I didn't. Don't also don't trade a professional sports gambler. I probably know something you don't. Speaking of sports, thinking of football, let's close with this.

I have been insulted by the Turning Point USA alternative halftime show. Where is that at now? They're still doing it, but I like... I heard Laura Trump was like going to sing her spiel. Unbelievable. So people are upset that Bad Bunny

is doing the halftime show at the Super Bowl, which is funny because most of the old white people who are complaining about it say, I can't even understand what he's saying about everybody who does the Super Bowl. No matter what. Not George St. Hendrick Lamar, what is he even saying?

Snoop Dog, what is he even saying? Rihanna. They have sub-tide. What the hell is he saying, man? Creed never did the Super Bowl. Did it? No. He just was popular when the Rangers won the Super Bowl.

Are you sure? World Series. Are you positive? I'm pretty sure. I'm pulling up for you right now. I bet you. I'll pull it up. Creed did not do the Super Bowl.

But I will say, like, the outrage around it is like, I think the NFL Who was that? Who was that? Who's what the arm's wide open? Who's things that? You too? Oh, Thanksgiving halftime show. Oh, Thanksgiving half-time shows.

Okay. It was a prime time. That's where I saw it. That's for real. Like, like, turkey's over-cooked. The NFL, the NFL is not dumb. Like, the NFL's a big brand.

They're, like, the biggest brand. They really don't fuck around. If they want you to do their halftime show, you do it. It's like the ultimate big. Like, I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift wants to do it, but has, hasn't been picked for it. Like, it's a lifetime accomplishment.

And you have to pay for it yourself and finance it as the artist. It's your performance. I heard Jay Z's part of the production crew. I guess he's teamed up with the NFL that choose whoever is. I'm sure. Maybe. But so they pick, they say it's going to be bad bunny.

He's like, fuck yeah, because he is like the second or third biggest artist on the planet. And so I would be so scared if they asked me to do the Super Bowl. I'd be like, no, language goddammit it's like okay hold on you guys he speaks english very fucking well by the way

and puerto rico is totally in america which is part of america bro that was a history lesson since bad bunny's been announced that a lot more americans have portoico is part of the u.s a lot of people didn't know that but like the fucking goal of people to be like we're going to make our own halftime show is like this conservative woke. You guys need to be included. You need to have an equitable representation of your whiteness and your own halftime show.

They made their own heavily politicized Turning Point USA halftime show. That is Erica Kirk's first big decision running her husband's company. I want to do the most patriotic thing in the world. Compete with the NFL and the Super Bowl. That is not patriotic. You want to know what's patriotic?

Watching football and shutting the fuck up. Straight up. Who the fuck? Who the fuck cares what you watch in the halftime show? I can't think of anything less manly than being like, I'm not watching this Puerto Rican perform in a living room. Quick, put it on YouTube so I can watch Laura Trump perform.

I usually go get another plate of food and like have a drink with the guys. That's like usually what I do during the halftime show. You should be engaging in degenerate gambling at halftime like the rest of America. It's the same thing with like the gay pride flags. Or the sidewalks even. Where is this? straight crime months like why do you care about that stuff like if everyone minding their own business our country would be such a better place because it's not putting you out i told you about the

nfl armband thing right that fake story where like all these the the rainbow yes people are like i was seeing like oh i'm so glad this guy on my team said he won't wear the lgbt prime pride arm band and i'm like pride month is like june yeah so you saw the fake shit All this fake shit, and, like, there's just a, like, please, I just don't want our fucking football to turn into the word weaponize. Well, that's a lot. So, like, every goddamn thing, you literally do that. Is weaponized. So it's, it's tough, but I think the NFL is smart as fuck, and they have games all over the world, which I love watching when they have a game in Brazil or Mexico City or I love when they're in Europe.

They're going to have a drip. Because we have great, like, morning, early morning games. they're a multinational brand they make more money than you and they know more about performing music than you do so why don't you just get fucked and like ignore the halftime show but like making your own

and trying to politicize it and make money off of it is so corny it's so corny who's making the halftime show Turning Point USA Charlie Kerge company the NFL is going to gonna drop an ad for them or no they're gonna be like they're like

go to youtube at half time we'll give you what and go on our youtube channel okay and live stream fucking jason aldeen and fucking is who they're pushing for is like 75 years if you try that in a small town if you see oh grandma's ain't yeah yeah try that shit in a small town are this is a merit are you threatening violence against black people who enter your small town because that's really what this song sounds like it's literally is what it is try that shit here you Non-white.

What the fuck, man? So he'll be headlining it. And it's just out of control. And, like, nobody wants it. But you're going to have, like, a lot of people turn off the TV, go to YouTube and live stream. And listen to some shit music. Some horrible. Half-time show.

I'm going to lose my shit if it's, like, some insane evangelical thing. It is going to be, we're not going to give a fuck. We're not going to. That's true. I won't actually be tuning in. You know, like, I can't be like a fucking, want these for. Seriously, it's like me opening Twitter the next day. One thing is for damn sure, and that is that no real man will be watching either one.

So the outback talking about the fucking game. Throwing the ball around. And anybody who's in their household's like, give me the remote. We're changing off this Puerto Rican. They are a pussy. And they deserve to be fucking dragged for their conservative DEI shit. Because it's getting, it's like they have. Conservative way, like you said, right.

Through fucking 50 halftime shows that were all in English. so this one's just too far. All right, guys, thanks so much for tuning in and listening to the episode. If you liked it, leave it a five-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts as well as on Spotify. Tag us, share it to your story so that more people can find the show

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