Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 109: Thoughts on Confederate Statues | Ear Biscuits Ep. 109

Episode Date: August 28, 2017

Rhett & Link sit down for a candid conversation about Rhett's recent Medium article, how they hope Mythical Beasts can approach conversations of politics & social good, and how their testicles are doi...ng after their vasectomies.  Listen & subscribe at: Apple Podcasts: http://apple.co/29PTWTM Spotify: http://spoti.fi/2oIaAwp Art19: https://art19.com/shows/ear-biscuits SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/earbiscuits Follow This Is Mythical: Facebook: http://facebook.com/ThisIsMythical Instagram: http://instagram.com/ThisIsMythical Twitter: http://twitter.com/ThisIsMythical Other Mythical Channels: Good Mythical Morning: https://www.youtube.com/user/rhettandlink2 Good Mythical MORE: https://youtube.com/user/rhettandlink3 Rhett & Link: https://youtube.com/rhettandlink Credits: Hosted By: Rhett & Link Executive Producer: Stevie Wynne Levine Managing Producer: Cody D'Ambrosio Technical Director / Editor: Meggie Malloy Graphics: Matthew Dwyer Set Design/Construction: Cassie Cobb Content Manager: Becca Canote Logo Design: Carra Sykes To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Rhett. And I'm Link, thank you for allowing us into your ears, your minds, your hearts, and your eyeballs if you're watching on YouTube, on the This is Mythical channel. Oh, I relish this time, Rhett, where you and I get to just speak with one another at this dimly lit table.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I notice you, interestingly, you're such a creature of habit, but you've made the definitive choice to not say, you don't like to say, when it's just the two of us, you don't like to say this week at the round table of dim lighting, which is very interesting, because you usually like to do things exactly the same way every time. You made a choice though because if you're not doing it,
Starting point is 00:00:48 I know you've made, you've thought about it. I'm not gonna say it, I'm gonna say it a different way. Yeah, I meant to talk to you about this. Explain yourself. That is a relic of the old way that we did Ear Biscuits where it was very strictly guest related. So there was an assumption. Someone is joining us this week at the round table
Starting point is 00:01:10 of dim lighting, blam. And now, it's just as likely to be us as it is somebody else. I don't know, I'm not gonna run the numbers on that. Not technically. Not technically but mentally for me. When I sit down at this table, like I said. We're talking about your mental process now.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I relish just being able to like hash the relish with you, my friend. May I suggest something that. You may suggest anything you want. It helps to make. Am I obligated to take such suggestions? Interesting because I'm usually the one that would be like, who cares about tradition?
Starting point is 00:01:41 Stickling, you're sticklering. But I have a different perspective on this because I love the phrase so much. I just feel like, I think the part that you didn't like, correct me if I'm wrong. Joining us. You don't like that part. So you're like, you don't like saying,
Starting point is 00:01:55 this week at the round table of dim lighting. Joining us this week. And I never. Joining us this week. I never say joining. That's you brother, I never say joining. I don't say it anymore. I always say this week at the round table of dim lighting
Starting point is 00:02:08 and then we have to say it's just the two of us. And it sounds like an apology, whereas it should be a celebration. Yeah, but I think you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater because, not to get too critical, but what you were saying I don't think was working. And then when you came back to the round table of dim lighting and you tried to slyly slip it in.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Oh, just now? When you came back to it. You want, here's what you want. You want to keep as a standard that they can count on a reference to the round table of dim lighting. Yeah, and I think maybe. And you know what, I respect that. Hold on, the table's moving.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I'm gonna take this opportunity while Rhett's face is away from the microphone to make an executive decision that I am going to say, I'm back. I and I'm Link, this week at the round table of dim lighting, we're gonna blank. Yeah, exactly. That's my idea. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:01 That is what I was thinking all along. That's where I was headed with that. So as long as we say that, I'm gonna be fine. And listen, you can change the whole thing. Let's role play it. I don't really care. Let's try it. But I was surprised that you wanted to change it
Starting point is 00:03:13 because you usually don't like to change things. So I was just like, what's he thinking? So I just wanted to pry open your mind. But now we're going back to the old way. Pry, you pried it. No, we're not going back to the old way. We're testing out the new way. Try it. Welcome to Ear B not going back to the old way, we're testing out the new way. Try it.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Rhett. And just to clarify, you were already welcomed. This is a role play. So don't be confused that we're welcoming you again. Go again, I'm sorry. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Rhett. And I'm Link. This week at the Round Table of Dim Lighting,
Starting point is 00:03:42 we got lots of good stuff to discuss, but I don't even know what it is. Yeah, that's good, yeah. I know it's good. Of course it's good. We shouldn't even comment on how good it is, we should just move on as if we just meant to do it. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:56 You're doing it right now, Link. You did it right that time, to quote a line from season two of Buddy System. Ooh yeah. I feel so much more acquainted with this table and this configuration because over the past couple of weeks we put a lot of hours in these chairs recording the audio book for the Book of Mythicality. That will be available on audible.com.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Just go to bookofmythicality.com for all the details for pre-ordering. A lot of people ask questions because I posted the picture of us recording and they were like, how's your voice? Because I shared that I'm having voice troubles. You know what, I made it through. There was only a couple of times where
Starting point is 00:04:45 there was like a crack in my voice and I had to start over. That's what's happening when it happens is there's like a crack in the voice. Only happened like a handful of times and my voice hurt a little bit at the end of the day but I don't think I sounded any different. I think I'm gonna sound pretty much the same way
Starting point is 00:05:02 throughout the book, like slightly sick. I think you, yeah, I think you sounded, at one point I was like, can you resay that whole paragraph because you sounded like you had just woken up. Yeah, what you don't understand is that I did that on purpose, I thought that would be a nice effect, the just woken up effect. But you didn't like it so I changed it.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Just like, you know, that's how this partnership works. I think we'll talk more about how excited we are about the Audible version of the book when you can actually purchase and listen to it in, well it's not that far off. Mid-October. Mid-October, so it's not that far off. We're gonna have this big launch of the book,
Starting point is 00:05:41 but I can confidently say, given the special guests who read the parts that they wrote in our book, given their appearances, it's all more exciting that you're gonna have to buy the physical book, pre-order it now, and you're gonna have to get the audio book because they're two distinct experiences. They are, they're very complimentary but they are exclusive in many ways.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Oh man, it was nice to read back through the book and remember everything we wrote. Our wives sat at this table. Mm-hmm, our wives sat here and read the parts of the book that they wrote. I don't know if we've told you guys. We have. We have told, I can't remember what we told you.
Starting point is 00:06:24 You really wanted to hold onto that one for a long time? To me, that's the best thing about the book is that we didn't write part of it, our wives did. So say it like seven times, not just once. That's all I'm saying, I'm gonna say it again. Yeah, let's just keep saying it. It's like when you got a movie coming out and you're like, why did, hold on,
Starting point is 00:06:39 why did that teaser trailer come out seven months ahead of time? Because why not be excited now and then? You can't be too excited about something, can you? And our wives did a great job. They did, they're great readers. We're both completely literate. I think we both stepped out for the other person's wife
Starting point is 00:06:56 to come in and take, I gave Jessie my seat, Christy took your seat, and then it was like, okay, we don't need too many cooks in the kitchen. And as we were reading, as Christy was reading her part, of course I'm giving some direction. I'm giving my opinion on the emphasis of a sabalo. I wasn't in the room. Yeah okay, so I'm interested in how,
Starting point is 00:07:14 it was a little risky because. We haven't discussed that. I mean we could have gotten in a huge fight because it's like I'm very comfortable in this situation and I'm directing, directing my wife is a dangerous thing in general. We gotta watch the table here because this is happening here.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Cody's gonna put his finger under the table for the next hour. There we go, we got it. It's like one of the, one of the. Is it a pinky finger or a big toe? What are you putting under there? It looks like his whole hand. Just be still.
Starting point is 00:07:42 There's two types of people in the world. There's people who go to a restaurant and sit at a wobbly table and don't do anything about it and then there's people who get the napkin folded up and correct the problem. What kind of person are you? That's laden with judgment, my friend. I celebrate the people who can just zen out
Starting point is 00:08:04 at a wobbly table. I am not one of those people. Even though I seem to be in this moment. It's funny how, I'm behaving. It's a role reversal today. I'm behaving like you today. I wanted it to be the same way, I fixed the wobbly table. Yeah, what? What's up?
Starting point is 00:08:16 And you're like, you know what it was, you were the one that was, this is what was happening. You were the one who was wobbling it. Oh so it's my freaking fault? If I was wobbling it, you'd be all over it, man. No, I know what it is. It's the vasectomy. Oh you're not wobble sensitive anymore?
Starting point is 00:08:29 I think our personalities melded and we each got a piece of each other. No, I think what happened is they did something to your balls and it's like they did something to your cochlea or whatever that thing in the inside of your ear is. My testicle's not in my ear, brother. We were there. No, the way males of your ear is. My testicle's not in my ear, brother. We were there.
Starting point is 00:08:45 No, the way males sense wobbling is by the testes. And so. That's why there's two. You're wobble sensitive, it's like a scale. It's a comparison thing. And so mine are completely intelligent. I was completely, maybe even more sensitive to wobbling and you lost wobble sensitivity when they screwed,
Starting point is 00:09:00 the doctor messed up something. No, you got some of me. You're acting a little neurotic. I wasn't that close to you. You admitted it, you're being a little neurotic today. Do you think he put part of your vast deference in my scrotum? That's exactly what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Kiko was there, that didn't happen, did it? He filmed the whole thing and didn't see that. It was a, Ben put up a black and didn't see that. Ben put up a black shield that then Kiko stood behind. I was like, is this like a splatter shield? But it was so if you tilted the camera down, it wouldn't show our junk. Like if you fell asleep, it was like, ugh.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And you saw it in a couple of shots, like a blurry sort of like, it looked like the matte box on the camera was kind of creeping into the frame. That was not the matte box, that was the. The splatter guard. Yeah. Splatter guard? One way to sneeze, sneeze guard.
Starting point is 00:09:56 It was the ball guard. I didn't know if something was gonna splatter. Well, since we're talking about the vasectomy, we're turning it into entertainment left, right, and every which way, we should just keep doing that. Keep milking it. I'm in recovery still, I don't know. It was Friday, Friday, we're recording this.
Starting point is 00:10:19 On Thursday. I don't even know what day. We're basically six days out from the surgery. And I wish I had, I had to ice last night. Oh, you brought out the piece. And then what, I mean, ice creates shrinkage which then keeps everything in place more. And I'm just being real here that like,
Starting point is 00:10:37 and I'm wearing the tightest pair of underwear I have today. Because I'm. Like your kids? Yeah, I'm wearing some of Lando's underwear. Got Superman on them. That's what kids are for. Superman's cradling my, my bowels. But what, I mean, is there anything else to talk about?
Starting point is 00:10:59 Let's not talk about the procedure anymore. I mean, you can watch that. I just wanna talk about, because we didn't talk about it in Good Mythical More where we talked a little bit about the recovery. Like we haven't discussed what we did because. The weekend. I went home right after the.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Friday afternoon we both go home. Yeah and we have been told by other men who had had this procedure done, taking it easy is really important. We actually didn't, we didn't even, we got together to work a little bit on Monday but we didn't come into the office and do a regular work day like we typically would do
Starting point is 00:11:31 because we were told those first two days is crucial even if you feel okay, you need to keep wearing the scrotal support. A very special pair of underwear. Actually wearing them right now. And I went back to them. Yeah, you needed the support too, you went back to them. I just feel like I need the extra support today.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I threw mine away because they were stained. Oh gosh, this is too much, man. This is too much, okay? And you can also get new ones. They sell them at like Walgreens. I'm not walking in any place and buying that. Send somebody in. send your wife in. Because they know it's not for her.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I was very much looking forward to, it was kind of a silver lining thing, like okay, I'm not gonna be comfortable, I'm gonna have frozen peas, which is, by the way, the best technique because ice melts. Pe peas stay there, they just get warmer. And they also can, because of the size of the peas, they can conform. They mold, they conform to whatever you need.
Starting point is 00:12:36 So as a silver lining in knowing that I wasn't gonna be able to do much, I was focusing on not being allowed to do much, like my family was in agreement. not being allowed to do much. Like my family was in agreement. I had a, somebody in our neighborhood let us borrow their electric recliner for Lily's recovery from back surgery. We have not given it back.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And so I was like, I'll give it back after this because I'm gonna be in that recliner. I'm gonna have recliner time. I'm gonna be like a grandpa. I'm gonna stick in that recliner with my'm gonna have recliner time. I'm gonna be like a grandpa. I'm gonna stick in that recliner with my frozen peas and every freaking remote just laid out there. This recliner has a tray. This is in the, the back room?
Starting point is 00:13:12 That's a part of it, in the back part with the big television in point blank range. And I'm just gonna sit there and I'm gonna do nothing and everybody understands that. And I'm not gonna, no one's gonna put me on a guilt trip like when I'm on the toilet on my phone for 30 minutes. You know, it's like, we know what you're doing, Dad. And Dad makes the decision about what's on the television.
Starting point is 00:13:33 That was rule number one, I was like, I'm not watching anything with you guys. That was a bit, I did not make that clear and that was a big problem. Oh, I made that clear up front. Right off the bat, a big mistake on my part. I should've put a sign on the door and then locked it. I was like, daddy's watching daddy shows.
Starting point is 00:13:48 That's what I said. Kids, close your doors. The kids guilted me into like, well I let them watch part of the dark night, Batman Begins. Hold on, you watched Batman Begins? That was one of your choices? No, it was with the kids one Friday night.
Starting point is 00:14:04 We were watching something as a family and it's like you wanna watch a good wholesome movie. Batman Begins. Christopher Nolan, kids, you gotta start learning this stuff. And so we're watching it and we didn't finish it and so then the next day, they insist on watching the rest of the movie with me which I didn't want to happen.
Starting point is 00:14:24 But I was guilted into it. You started daddy time with the kids? That's how it started? What? Oh yes, yes. This is supposed to be you time. Daddy time meaning alone time. Yeah, me time.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Me time. I finally got rid of them. I hope it's good for you, because I'm just getting my bad stuff out of the way, okay? Okay. Then I'm like, all right, now, kids go away. I'm sitting here with my peas, and I'm gonna watch The Defiant Ones on HBO.
Starting point is 00:14:54 This is Dr. Dre and Jimmy Iovine documentary. I heard great things about it. One of my favorite things to watch is a music documentary. I love hip hop. Dr. Dre doesn't grant a lot of interviews. I heard this was like very revealing. So I was very intrigued. One of my favorite things to watch on a screen
Starting point is 00:15:14 is a rap documentary. Okay. Super excited. I can't get the HBO Go. The app on my television will not work. I don't understand. HBO Go, the app on my television will not work, I don't understand. It's so freaking slow. I'm like, well maybe it's just this file.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I'm gonna go to like John Oliver. And so then I start watching that and it's creeping along and I'm like, well, go over to Netflix. I'm like, maybe it's my internet. I got up, I unplugged my router. Oh gosh, you had to do that? You gotta unplug the router, then you gotta unplug the, what's the internet,
Starting point is 00:15:54 the wifi disk, what's that called? The modem and then the router. You unplug the modem and the router. In that order. Then you count to 15, you plug the one back in. Or 45. Is that the problem? You gotta count to 45.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I counted to 15, I plugged the modem back in. I don't know why. I count to another 15 and I plug in the router and then I go all the way back in there and then I gotta restart the television too. Oh yeah, everything's gotta get back in sync. Everything's gotta understand what's going on again. I'm jangling my testicles all over the house.
Starting point is 00:16:27 This is defeating the purpose of everything. Right. Sit back down, put on the Defiant Ones. The menu's working great. It's creeping. Nothing changed, nothing changed! I'm like, well I'll go over to Netflix. Netflix working great.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah, Netflix is very reliable. YouTube working great.. Netflix working great. Yeah, Netflix is very reliable. YouTube working great. Amazon Prime working great. I got it all baby, except the one thing that has the one thing I wanna see and it's so slow. Then I go, I'm like, you know what, I have it on cable because I still pay for cable which is stupid I think. Except now it's like, ooh, I'm gonna get you.
Starting point is 00:17:00 You can also do the HBO Now app. HBO, oh, I tried that. And I was like, I'll just watch it on my laptop. Didn't work. I ended up going to on demand on my cable box, which you know how frustrating using cable is. I'm afraid of that whole system. That whole system is just stupid.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Archaic. It's like a railroad. And then it started working. This had to have been an hour and a half later. It literally took that long to get to this point. Man, I feel bad for you. Daddy time didn't, started off real nice for me. And then Christy had to do some stuff,
Starting point is 00:17:33 so Lando's around and he's, it's a good thing that he doesn't like screens, so it's just like, to be occupied, he has to be like playing games and doing stuff. But he wanted to do that with me and I felt bad, so I was like, I'll play a game with you in the room, but I'm gonna watch Defiant once. So here I am, I'm like, I can do it all.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And then I'm like, it dawns on me very quickly, after I'm like, it's not appropriate. Dr. Dre just speaking freely is not appropriate in front of my seven year old. So I told him that. I was like, this isn't appropriate for you, but we'll finish the game. And then a few seconds later, I'm like, no, this is not gonna work.
Starting point is 00:18:15 You're gonna have to leave. So he doesn't just start watching what's on the screen if he's in the room with it? No, it was a documentary, it's talking ads, he don't care. I mean, Shepard though, Shepard has a problem. He's got a screen problem. So I don't care what it was, man, he's talking ads, he don't care. I mean, Shepard though, Shepard has a problem. He's got a screen problem. So I don't care what it was, man, Hellraiser, doesn't matter, he's gonna immediately lock on it.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Lando doesn't have that yet. Absorbing, well, Shepard. I bet he'll get it. No, Shepard had it from age three. Well, I guess I'm. I think it's a personality thing. For the record, I did not let Lando listen to the Defiant Ones with me for more than a few seconds.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Just a few F bombs were dropped and then you, he's had his quota, get him out of the room. But I mean we've talked very specifically about what we think about those words and what's the most important thing in life. Those words are for Dr. Dre, son. That's what you say? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:08 And until you are a successful rapper, you can't say them. Instead, just focus on love and kindness. I did not go the documentary route. Well, first of all, I made it very clear. I mean, I made it clear days, maybe weeks ahead of time. I was like, wanna let you guys know, heads up. And you know how my house is and it's very open and so even the living room is open.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah. So we don't have a place where you can go into a room and close the door and watch television. There's like pedestrians coming through your living room. It's a busy place. And so I had to be very clear, I was like, daddy, it's daddy time. Daddy got his balls operated on
Starting point is 00:19:52 and daddy needs some time to himself to recover. Okay kids? Daddy wanna watch TV. Daddy don't want no more of y'all running around here, that's why daddy got this operation. Leave daddy alone for a weekend. So I made that very clear. Now it worked with the kids,
Starting point is 00:20:07 but my wife was really the problem. Oh. And not that I care that my wife, I mean I love having my wife around while I'm watching television. The problem is is that she was so busy having to leave and go here and there, and she started getting into the things
Starting point is 00:20:22 that I was watching and then asking me to stop them. Pause it, pause it. Stop that and watch something else. So that was the only interruption in the daddy time. What I did is I just caught up on a lot of series that I wanted to watch on Netflix. I finished Friends from College, that new comedy that's got Keegan-Michael Key in it,
Starting point is 00:20:42 which there's a lot of mixed reaction to that. I liked it, I liked it, thought it was funny, and I finished that pretty quickly, but she kept making me pause that because she's watched a little bit of that with me. And I just remembered, in the middle of my Defiant Ones thing, the reason why it took an hour and a half is because I gave up and because you told me that,
Starting point is 00:21:02 I started watching that, but then the kids were coming in and out and that wasn't appropriate either. No, kids can't watch that. So then I switched back. Made a kid stay in the room for that one. Then the thing is she would leave and then when she left, I had to watch Narcos because I've been watching that for a while and she's not interested in that.
Starting point is 00:21:19 And so then I'm switching between an English show and a Spanish show. I'm all confused. So then she comes back and I have to stop Pablo Escobar in his tracks and then immediately begin watching Keke and Michael Key again. Keke and Michael Key. And that was problematic but I finished that series
Starting point is 00:21:37 and then I was like, I'm gonna watch the second season of Master of None because I haven't watched any of that. Hold on, you watched all of Friends from College? I'd already seen the first five episodes. With Narc, how many more episodes were there? Five. You watched five more episodes of Friends from College. I did nothing but watch television for three days.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And then you watched Narcos in between that. Yeah. And then you went over and you watched Master of None? The whole second season and I'm not done yet. Are you kidding me? No, I mean Link. I whole second season and I'm not done yet. Are you kidding me? No, I mean Link. I've told you everything I saw. I saw half of episode two of Defiant Ones.
Starting point is 00:22:11 What were you doing? That's as far as I got. That's why you were in more pain than me, man. Daddy laid on his butt on the couch with his balls in a special cradle that the doctor gave him and binge watched TV till I was blue in the face. Well I did some work too. I like gave notes on Buddy's system. I did too, I watched.
Starting point is 00:22:29 No you didn't. Don't say you did work just because I said I did work. I watched episode 203 and gave notes and then 204 had no audio so I didn't watch that. I also. I don't know what else I did. First of all, Master of None, everybody's like, Master of None season two masterpiece, it's like, Master of None, season two, masterpiece.
Starting point is 00:22:45 It's like, I was like, oh okay, come on now. Really, really? I agree now. I watched it and I just, especially watching it just in the binge format, just like letting, literally, I passively let each episode just roll to the next one. Like the counter says, the next episode in five seconds. I just let it happen.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Did you have a catheter in? I got up to pee a couple of times. But it's so good, man. There are problems, like you notice in season one of Master of None, you're like, the acting is kind of distracting, but because the acting is distracting in Buddy System, I'm willing to forgive it, you know?
Starting point is 00:23:23 Because when you watch yourself act and you watch comedians act, you're like, oh, this isn't, I'm not watching this for Oscars or Emmys to be awarded for best actor. I'm watching this because it's so well done and written and it's interesting the way they explore things. I loved it, loved season two. Then.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Better than season one, that much better. Yeah, so I actually stopped watching season one, I remember, I got most of the way through it, I enjoyed it, but season two I was just like, bam, I'm going all the way through. Then I moved on. That's all you were doing though. To Ozark.
Starting point is 00:23:56 What, you moved on to something? Yeah, and I'm like seven episodes deep in Ozark. I haven't even heard of this one. That's the Jason Bateman. Oh, that one has like a very cold tint on the thumbnail. It has a crow. I don't, uh-uh, I don't watch things where people are tinted blue and there's a crow.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Oh, really? I wanna watch Dre get real. My assessment of Ozark thus far. Is it dark or sad? It looks sad and dark. I don't need that in my life. It's a poor man's Breaking Bad. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:24:27 It's white collar, straight laced dude gets involved in drug crimes. Jason Bateman? Jason Bateman. But so I wouldn't say has the straight laced wife and the kids. It's basically Breaking Bad told in a different way, not as compelling.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I'm sure he'll appreciate that. But I mean, listen, that story is a story that can be told multiple times. I mean, I'm seven episodes deep, I like the show. Now, actually last night, I got my wife to come in and I did, you don't typically do this, but I was like, I really wanna watch this, so let me give you
Starting point is 00:25:05 the quick rundown on what happened in the first six episodes, like I'm the Netflix catch you up thing, personally, like your personal, this is what happened, this is what you need to know, can you start watching at episode seven with me? And she was like, okay, and we watched it, and she was into it. Really? So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:21 I ingested all kinds of entertainment, and some painkiller, but not a lot. I didn't take any painkiller either. I just took the ibuprofen. I missed out on all of it. I just don't know how to do potato sack. What's it called? Potato couch?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Couch potato sack? That's a race, man. Sack race. I don't know how to do sack races, guys. Dang it. Okay, well, we're gonna continue talking about some other important things, including the reaction to us putting the vasectomy video
Starting point is 00:25:59 on the internet, but first we wanna let you know that Ear Biscuits is supported by MeUndies, the best underwear on the planet. These are the best underwear on the planet and that is why even though, as I have discussed, I am wearing a scrotal support right now because of my recent vasectomy. I am wearing MeUndies over said scrotal support
Starting point is 00:26:23 because I want the comfort. I still gotta have the comfort. I mean, first of all, these are incredibly supportive underwear, but in the condition that we're in, they gotta be locked down to a place. Like you wanna lock them up like it's a safety deposit box. Yeah, and that's why I'm wearing underwear
Starting point is 00:26:44 that are too tight. I would never do this except for under these conditions. But I literally thought this morning about putting my MeUndies on over them because I didn't wanna go without wearing them. Well, and also if you have- Because they feel so good. And if you get caught with your pants down,
Starting point is 00:27:00 having MeUndies on is like, man, well look at that dude's underwear. The patterns and stuff, I mean you look good. Right. You look good already, so you kinda wanna get caught with your pants down if you got me undies on. Yeah, can we put that forward as their slogan? Get caught with your pants down.
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Starting point is 00:27:56 and we've known for a while that we were going to do this. There's lots of questions like why would you guys do this? Why would you document it? Well, we've said for a long time that if we ever go through the process of getting a vasectomy, we're going to document it and put it on the internet. And yes, for entertainment purposes, for views, yes, that's why we did it.
Starting point is 00:28:13 But also as you pointed out, it gave you the motivation to actually go through the procedure knowing that you could do it for entertainment purposes. Well, I'm ultimately motivated for the obvious reasons that any person would be motivated. But I was so peaked, which means faint of body. Faint of body. I just needed one more thing to push me over the edge
Starting point is 00:28:39 and that was, hey, the thing I'm most scared about is going through the process. So it will help me to have cameras there to have to focus my energy of nervousness into entertaining you and it helps a whole lot. It helps so much. I mean, yes, I was still freaking out. I had to get the freaking Demerol shot.
Starting point is 00:29:02 But I couldn't, I could not, I would have been freaking out a lot more I think. It makes me think that. Internally. I wanna have all my medical procedures documented because it gives me this comfort. Well I think we've done it. I think we've committed to it.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Okay. I mean, given the other medical procedures we've already talked about on Ear Biscuits, I'm glad that we've made the decision now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, got that stuff out of the way. But I think you've been tracking more closely audience reaction to this thing than I have.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I watched the video with my family the morning it came out. I read a few comments but that was it. I laughed a whole lot and I was very happy with the final product. Yeah. I loved the music, how the music was incorporated and I know you and Stevie worked with Casey on that. Yeah. I think in succession.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yeah, it was one of those sort of old school, you know, we haven't done that in a while. We haven't gone out and done something and documented and put it on the show. So I was happy to step in and get involved in the edit. But what are people saying? Well, first of all, we could devote an entire podcast to answering continued misconceptions,
Starting point is 00:30:18 lingering misconception as to what happened. You know, people who think we got our balls cut off, even though they saw the procedure. Are these people who watched Good Mythical More? Because I don't want to rehash that stuff. No, no, I'm just saying that that still is just absolutely nuts and I don't, and that was not a pun intended.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Usually say no pun intended but I just said that was not a pun intended. But it was a pun. So I'm not gonna talk about those misconceptions but what I will talk about is the, and again, we talked about, we love to throw things out there and sort of guess what the audience reaction is gonna be.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And before we released the video, I was like, okay, let's go ahead and just emotionally prepare ourselves. There's going to be a lot of people who don't understand what happened and why we're doing it. Lots of people just vomit out their ignorance about various subjects on the internet. And when you throw something out like a vasectomy, you're gonna get a million people
Starting point is 00:31:06 who do that, that happened. But the other thing we're gonna get is you guys have gone too far, this is officially too far. Because there's always this ongoing conversation, we talked about it on Ear Biscuits before, we've been talking about it for as long as we've been in business, brother. People always thinking that we're pushing the limits too far
Starting point is 00:31:27 or that somehow the line has moved and we've gotten too close to it and now we've officially crossed it. And so for a lot of people, it was, you guys have done it. I can no longer let my kids watch this show. I actually saw one comment where it was like, my 12-year-old daughter came to me and told me that she can no longer watch the show
Starting point is 00:31:45 because of this episode. And I'm just gonna take this opportunity to reiterate what we said before. Great, good for her, that's great for you. If you've given your daughter that perspective and that's the perspective that you want your daughter to have, daughter or son, kids, and they came back and voiced that to you
Starting point is 00:32:04 and you feel good about it, great. You're doing what you want with your family, good for you. I wouldn't say great. I believe that, I would just say okay. Okay, okay. I don't think it's great. By saying great, I'm not saying that's the way I do things in my house. I'm just saying good for you.
Starting point is 00:32:20 But we don't want to say, well that's sad. We're not gonna render judgment against someone saying this crossed the line for me so I'm not gonna watch it or I'm not gonna allow someone in my purview to watch it, one of my kids or whatnot. We are not going to say, well that's sad or that's this or that's that. We're not saying that.
Starting point is 00:32:42 We're not gonna try to hold onto you. If you wanna go. Those are two different points. If you wanna go. We're not rendering judgment. We're not trying to keep you. We're not also judging you for saying this isn't for you. Yeah, if you wanna go, if you think we crossed a line
Starting point is 00:32:57 and you wanna leave the herd, leave the herd. This is not, no one's forcing you to do any of this. And people think it's something that, people think the show's something that it's not. Yeah. And I, that's why we continue to talk about it, just as by way of education. But I will also say.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And has the line moved a little bit, maybe. Well of course it has, as we've gotten older, as our kids have gotten older. But what I will say is that, as we've gotten older, as our kids have gotten older. But what I will say is that, as we've said many times before, we don't do anything that we don't let our kids watch. Link has a seven-year-old son, I have a nine-year-old son. We watched the video with them
Starting point is 00:33:37 and they laughed at everything that we said. All the talk about balls, all the jokes about our private parts, all the explicit, not in terms of profane, but explicit talk about the private parts, that's stuff that already happens in our homes. Yeah, I got two boys, we talk about balls all the time. Well it's not just a boy thing, I mean I think
Starting point is 00:33:59 No I'm saying, but they have balls. Yes they do. So we end up talking about the balls a lot. I mean Lily has two younger brothers so she's immune to testicular talk. It's just, it's like breathing air in our home. Right, you might breathe in a ball if you don't watch out. Well at least a ball joke.
Starting point is 00:34:19 A ball joke, we keep them holstered, man. Right, keep them in that supportive scrotal. Gosh. Supportive scrotal. Gosh. Support. What's the point you're trying to make? The point is is that we, so far, I'm not saying we're not ever gonna create something that we're like specifically, hey, this is just for adults,
Starting point is 00:34:36 but what you will know is that it will, we will let you know that it's just intended for adults if that's the case because we're sensitive to who's watching our videos, but the barometer that we use personally is what we would let our kids watch. And so that definitely does kind of change but I'm not saying once our kids are.
Starting point is 00:34:55 They get older so the line changes. I don't think. But once they become adults, I'm not saying that once our kids are all grown up that all of a sudden it's all for adults at that point. Right. Because we understand that the content that we create is, by our standards, is family friendly.
Starting point is 00:35:10 That doesn't mean that every family is going to find it friendly but for what we see as family friendly, like everybody sits down, all ages sit down and enjoy, we still create that kind of stuff. In our house, that means some ball jokes are gonna fly around especially when you're getting your balls operated on. And also, another big part of why we did the video
Starting point is 00:35:32 was I do think it's educational. In spite of the fact that people watch the videos and still think that we've somehow lost our manhood, I can't help you. If that's the way your brain works, good luck in life. I'm sure you're gonna be okay, but we're probably not gonna have a productive conversation
Starting point is 00:35:50 about vasectomies. Okay, okay, okay. And we did put a warning at the beginning of the video. I mean, it is an extraordinary video. So we said what it was gonna contain and what it wasn't gonna contain, and then we then said, here's the point
Starting point is 00:36:05 where you can click away. Yeah, we got lots of opportunities to click away. But I don't know why you would then go to someone, go to a parent and then say so from now on I'm not watching any of their videos because they did this one where they warned me at the top of it that this particular one is more special. So that's a little unfair to us.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Yeah, but we don't mind. Let it be said. I'm not deeply hurt. We do not care. But I can tell you're a little frustrated. No, no, no, no. Your eyes widen, your pupils dilate. I'm frustrated with people thinking that we care.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That's the thing that I do care about. It's just like. That's very ironic. Yeah. There is a distinction. It's just like. That's very ironic. Yeah. There is a distinction. It's just I just wanna be, I wanna be, if you don't wanna watch it, then don't watch it.
Starting point is 00:36:52 You don't have, I did see somebody say, listen, this is not an airport. You don't have to announce your departure. I thought that was a great line. Well yeah, and they didn't make it up either. Okay. Someone, somebody's grand't make it up either. Okay. Someone, somebody's granddad made it up. Oh really, you don't think that was an original joke?
Starting point is 00:37:09 I'm gonna credit the person who, I don't know who said it. I've never heard anybody say it either but I could hear that, I can believe that many granddads have said it. Let's move along to other controversial issues. So it will have been over a week, maybe two weeks
Starting point is 00:37:29 by the time this episode is up that I did the thing that we're gonna talk about now. Yeah, you wrote a piece. I'll call it a piece. Call it a piece, Link. You wrote a piece about your perspective of the Confederate monuments coming down in the South or people's opinion about those monuments coming down or staying.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah, it's on my Twitter. It's a Medium article which by the way, if you're not familiar with Medium, it's. I am not. It's basically a blogging platform where you can look like you wrote an article. But it's great because. Oh is it citable on Wiki now?
Starting point is 00:38:14 It's essentially a way to create an article, like put a picture and an article and then it kind of goes into that system. But all you have to do is have like a Twitter account or a Facebook account or whatever to just have one, and then people can follow you. So if I write something else, everyone who started following me
Starting point is 00:38:29 because of the first article can see the next one and that kind of thing. You can create series and that kind of thing. Not a sponsor. But it's a blog post posing as an article? Well, what's really the difference in 2017? Ooh. So I would say that it's, in other words,
Starting point is 00:38:45 it's not curated or editorialized by any one group. It's completely user-based, but it's presented as articles and that's how you sort through things and things are tagged and related articles come up, that kind of thing, people could comment. So it's called Thoughts on Confederate Memorials from a White Southern Male. I think that's the name of it, but it's on my Twitter,
Starting point is 00:39:12 RedMC, you can see that I tweeted it out. Now, what led to this? I'm gonna talk a little bit about what led to this because we're not gonna get into the, you can see what I thought and what I said in the article. Well, let me give you the one minute summary of what I said in the article because you don't have to pause it and go read it.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah, and I'll do that and I'll say, I'm really interested in, I mean, I've read the article and I'm very engaged in that, but I'm also very interested in everything that went around leading up to you actually taking the time to write it as busy as you are. And the fact that we typically know everything that we're gonna do when it's something like that
Starting point is 00:39:51 before it's done but like I think we were working apart like when Buddy System and some different stuff. I got home that night and Chris was like, did you see Rhett's article that he wrote? And I'm like Rhett wrote an article? Yeah see. And so my first thought was, well I didn't know about this. Rhett wrote an article. Yeah see. And so my first thought was, well I didn't know about this.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Rhett wrote an article. I didn't know what it was. Rhett's got an article business on the side. I didn't get to read it until I was in bed that night and I read it and I retweeted it. Oh thanks for that. You're welcome, we can get into more thoughts about it. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:20 So did Octavia Spencer Link. We, yeah for real. She did. Oh awesome. But yeah I'm also. But I appreciate your tweet more. I'm interested in the, Link. We, yeah, for real? She did. Oh, awesome. But yeah, I'm also. But I appreciate your tweet more. I'm interested in the, yes. Because it means more to me personally.
Starting point is 00:40:31 The tertiary story that led to the thing because there's not much that either one of us do that the other one doesn't know about or find out about through the internet. That was just, it's just an interesting thing. Yeah, so it's a very short. My feelings were not hurt. It's a very short post. It's just an interesting thing. Yeah so it's a very short. My feelings were not hurt. It's a very short post.
Starting point is 00:40:46 It's very happy. And it basically says, hey I grew up in the south, I grew up in a culture where all, pretty much everyone that I knew believed very specific things about the history of the Civil War and there is very much a kind of a glorification of the Southern cause and not really stopping to, stop and think, well what do all the black people
Starting point is 00:41:13 who live around us think about this particular perspective that we have, that perspective being that the Confederate generals were good men and the Union generals were bad men and the South, it wasn't any more racist than the North. And you know, most importantly, the Civil War wasn't even about slavery, it was about states' rights.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Lots of things that you're taught and so you kind of have this perspective that oh, well, all the stuff that you hear about in books and stuff is wrong. It's actually this, that, and the other. And I'm nodding my head because absolutely, I heard all the exact same things. Right. I mean, I was in many
Starting point is 00:41:51 of the same conversations. And so, of course, when the discussion of Confederate memorials comes up, there's lots of like, well, this is erasing history. That's what you keep hearing, oh, people are erasing history. And my point was is that these monuments, the vast majority of these monuments,
Starting point is 00:42:08 they in themselves were an effort to erase history because they were themselves the glorification of the Confederate cause, many of them financed by the Daughters of the Confederacy in between the, before, like 1895 to the First World War and it was a movement in the South, which goes on to this day to kind of venerate
Starting point is 00:42:32 and honor the Southern cause and kind of rebrand what actually happened. And a lot of those monuments were put up for those reasons. So it's totally understood now that people are kind of offended by them because they're not teaching history, they're honoring and sort of rewriting the past in many cases. So my point was you're not gonna dissemble racism
Starting point is 00:42:55 by taking down a monument. And so I'm actually not like a huge like, hey, I wanna go out there and rip these things down. That's not what I'm about but I understand. Which literally happened in Durham, North Carolina. But I understand the perspective, and what I said is because these things are symbols, and the people who put them up and financed them,
Starting point is 00:43:14 for the vast majority of them, they were symbols of ultimately, if you wanna be explicit about it, hate, right? And saying that whites own and run the South. Then bringing them down is at least symbolic of saying that we're leaving that perspective behind. This isn't about history. So that was the point of the article,
Starting point is 00:43:31 but why did I talk about this? I'm a comedian, right? What do I know, first of all? I'm just a comedian over here in Los Angeles on the left coast. Why am I speaking? I don't care about your opinion. The reason I did this and chose to do it now
Starting point is 00:43:47 and haven't spoken about any of these things before was I kinda just got to a point where I think you can only hear so many things and feel so many things about them and know that you do have a platform and you do have a way to get something out there into the world and people will listen just because you have a following and not say something.
Starting point is 00:44:06 It can only last so long. But specifically what led to that. It can kinda eat away at you. Was my wife has kinda been doing the whole thing that I'm sure many of you do and sort of having these Facebook arguments about things. Which neither one of us do because we don't have personal Facebook accounts.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I have a Facebook account that I just use to help manage the Rhett and Link Facebook account but it's not one that I use personally. But my wife has one and she's a typical Facebook user. And you look over her shoulder, right? Well she's just sitting there with her phone or her computer and she's like, this is what this person said now
Starting point is 00:44:42 and now I'm gonna say this. And she's very civil and very smart and articulate in the way that she communicates these things but she's arguing with a bunch of people, mostly people back home in North Carolina who have this perspective which was, so many people kept saying, why are we erasing history? What's next?
Starting point is 00:44:59 Are we gonna start taking down statues of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln? Where did they get that line from? Yeah, exactly. And so I was just like, okay, I can only hear. Well where did he get that line from? I think is another question. I can only hear those things so many times before I'm just like, I'll just step in
Starting point is 00:45:15 and give my perspective because, first of all I think it's very, we have to be very careful. When you come into a situation and you speak something into it, you have to take into account context and you have to take into account who you are. And as a white, southern man,
Starting point is 00:45:37 coming into a situation, there's a lot of baggage that I bring into any conversation, right? You bring your baggage to the conversation. And so I wanted to come at it with a, listen, this is the perspective that I kind of bring to this based on my background and how I've had to overcome that perspective in some way.
Starting point is 00:46:00 So I didn't want to come in and be like, this is what you should think about this, but it was more. This is my experience and this is what I think now and so I just want to kind of just speak my mind, hopefully in a way that will be considered by people on both sides of the spectrum. And I really appreciated that about your approach was that you didn't say something,
Starting point is 00:46:23 to your point about baggage, you wrote about your baggage. I mean it was confessional in a lot of ways. It wasn't first and foremost an opinion piece. I mean your opinions and your perspective were definitely in there but it was through the lens of this is the baggage that I have.
Starting point is 00:46:48 I'm gonna tell you about that. I think in reading the comments underneath, I mean you gotta be signed in, you gotta have a Medium account and everything to comment there. So there's a lot of comments when I read through it that night, there's probably a lot more now. But I appreciated the tone of the conversation
Starting point is 00:47:08 that was being had down there, even for some people who disagreed. But there were a lot of people who said that they appreciated, there were people who would say, I'm from England and this feels very, or I'm from, I can't remember where they said they were from but I'm from England and this feels very, or I'm from, I can't remember where they said they were from, but I'm from blank, not the United States,
Starting point is 00:47:29 and this is such a foreign thing for me, but it's so helpful for me to read it, to read your perspective as a person who lived it, this like reading about your baggage. Yeah. Or, you know, and it did make me think when you were reiterating it here, it's like, I remember when I turned 16 and I got,
Starting point is 00:47:54 I was like, I got tapes for my truck and it's like I got my new Charlie Daniels greatest hits tape and it's going through all these great Charlie Daniels songs and then there's one that's The South's Gonna Do It Again. Well, dude, what again? And I'm like, I'm singing along with this song, and it's like, I love Charlie Daniels
Starting point is 00:48:13 because of the first nine songs on the tape, and then let's say that was the 10th one of a Greatest Hits album, by the way. This was not just a deep track. This is what they called a Greatest Hit. The South's Gonna Do It Again. Man, I thought This was not just a deep track. This is what they called a greatest hit. The South gonna do it again. Man I thought that was a cool ass song. And what about Hank Williams Jr.
Starting point is 00:48:30 If the South woulda won, we have it made. Remember that one? Yeah and so you, I mean, this is the world that we lived and breathed and sang. We sang these songs. We sang these songs, we belted out these songs not understanding what they meant. Never really stopping to think.
Starting point is 00:48:48 But it made me feel great. Oh, you felt great about it. At the time, yeah, I mean, because. Southern pride, man. Southern pride. Now, I think that. But dig, dig, dig into it and what does it mean? Yeah, I think that something, the reason that I spoke about this is that,
Starting point is 00:49:07 you know, we are not interested in being political and we definitely, when it comes to something like Good Mythical Morning, we're not interested in it having a political perspective. Not saying that we're not gonna talk about political figures or whatever, but we don't have a strong political perspective that kinda you could pin the show down as having
Starting point is 00:49:32 because we want it to be very inclusive. And that actually translates into why I talked about this is because I actually don't think that this is a political issue, right? I don't think that you have to think a certain way about what's going on in our country right now because of your political party. But that's the way that we think.
Starting point is 00:49:57 We think, what does my party think? What is my platform? What is the ideology that I have committed myself to already that my family and my friends know that I'm committed to? And by party, you don't necessarily mean political party. You could mean any group or tribe affiliation, if you will. But with this issue, there is a pretty stark contrast between your political perspective based on your party.
Starting point is 00:50:23 And I just think that doesn't make any sense. It's like I don't want to know if you're a Democrat or a Republican, I don't want to know if you're a progressive or a conservative because I actually don't think that this is a progressive versus conservative issue. I think this is just like what are we trying to do? What do we hope our future is going to be like? Like do we want our future to be one of unity,
Starting point is 00:50:47 oneness, wholeness, love? I think 99% of people would say yes. Of course, you've got those crazy white supremacists who definitely don't want that, who want the races to be separate and they're very vocal about that. But I still think that while there's a lot of racist undercurrent in our country and a lot of people are racist
Starting point is 00:51:07 even if they don't know it, there's only a few people who are speaking that, saying that divisive rhetoric about how we should not be whole and not be one and not be unified. But the problem is is that so many people who, if you just ask them a question like, do you want the country to be more unified? Do you want people to love each other more?
Starting point is 00:51:27 They would say yes, yes, I want that. But then they turn around and say, but I do not care enough about what the black community thinks to say I'm willing to let this statue come down because of what it symbolizes in our past, a part of our past that we don't wanna forget but we don't want to glorify. We're not going to forget that the Civil War happened.
Starting point is 00:51:51 When you take a statue of Robert E. Lee down, you're not saying, well, we're gonna forget everything about the Civil War all of a sudden. No, you don't learn history from statues. If you do, you've got a problem. You learn history from books and historians. But this is about are we as a society gonna say, are we about oneness, wholeness, and unity,
Starting point is 00:52:12 or are we about standing up for this, where does this end, where does this line end? It's like no, that's a logical fallacy. It's been demonstrated many times. It's the argument from a slippery slope and it doesn't apply to this situation. I don't wanna get into the argument, but what I'm saying is that I wanted to talk about this
Starting point is 00:52:29 because I don't think that it's an us versus them issue, I think it's a us issue. I think it's a, whether you think that the monument should be kept up but then contextualized properly by like let's put something on a plaque that says exactly what these people stood for, well I'd be open to that. They don't have to be torn down.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I'm not like, if they're not torn down, I'm not happy. But I also don't think that as a white southern man who used to sing Hank Williams Jr. If the South Woulda Won, we've had it made loudly from Link's truck. I don't think I'm the best one to make the decision about whether they should come down or not because it's not my particular situation that's being addressed here.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's like, I think we should actually ask our, you know, the black community, what do you guys think about this? Because you're the ones that were dehumanized for hundreds of years and then the South did fight for the right to continue to dehumanize you and hold you as slaves. So what do you guys think about these monuments?
Starting point is 00:53:31 That would be a more open perspective and attitude that I think would ultimately bring about oneness and wholeness in our country which is what we need. And that was when I was talking to you earlier about this whole overview effect which I think is so pertinent to this. This is a term that's been around since the 80s. It's something that's been around since the first guy
Starting point is 00:53:54 to go into orbit, but there's this thing called the overview effect. I actually wanna read it off of Wikipedia because it's gonna be able to say it much better than me. Go read it off of my Medium account. The overview effect is a cognitive shift in awareness reported by some astronauts and cosmonauts during space flight,
Starting point is 00:54:15 often while viewing the Earth from orbit or from the lunar surface. It refers to the experience of seeing firsthand the reality of the Earth in space, which is immediately understood to be a tiny, fragile ball of life hanging in the void, shielded and nourished by a paper-thin atmosphere. From space, national boundaries vanish,
Starting point is 00:54:33 the conflicts that divide people become less important, and the need to create a planetary society with a united will to protect this pale blue dot becomes both obvious and imperative. That is powerful. This just takes people going up into space and looking back down at the Earth and seeing that it doesn't look like a map.
Starting point is 00:54:54 There are no borders. I don't see. Wait, what? There are no borders, Link. That's just on a globe, sucka. Oh, God. And seeing us as one species, one group of people. We're all the same, we're all related,
Starting point is 00:55:08 we all come from the same place. And these stupid debates about Confederate monuments and people getting so freaking mad that they're willing to drive a car into a group of people and kill somebody. Seems so stupid when you just take a step up or take a flight up, take a rocket ship up and look down and see the full context of our situation.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And that's, by speaking in the way that I did in that article, I actually, I'm not trying to be divisive or divisive, whichever way you say that. I'm not trying to. Build a wall. Build a wall, right, exactly. The last thing I think we need is a wall. We don't need a wall, we need bridges.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And I'm not talking about infrastructure. Right. We shouldn't be, I mean infrastructure is a problem and I was a civil engineer, I know a lot about bridges. But we need to be building bridges. I don't mean to bring Mexico into this. Bridges between people, not walls between people and because.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Do you feel like given the conversation that happened in the comments that that proved really, being one of your first forays into this type of thing, are indications that that happened or that it, I mean it was still, was there still a lot of arguments busting out? I was. I mean if this was a vlog on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:56:32 we know what the comments would look like. Oh yeah, the YouTube comments are the most toxic place. But you didn't do that, so in the, what's the assessment at this point? Overwhelming support. But that's a biased support. Right, right, right, right. So but what I will say.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Maybe to fans of us. Yeah, okay, in this particular atmosphere that we're in right now, standing up and saying what I said is not particularly bold, right? I mean, some people are like, oh, this is so bold that you stood up. Maybe we lost fans because of it. Fans that I don't care, it's fine if we lose them, right?
Starting point is 00:57:11 But I actually think that we probably, in this atmosphere right now, the people who watch our content, I think we probably gained more fans or there's people who are like, well, they're just on the West Coast, they're confused, they're leftist, but they're still funny, so I'll let this one slide.
Starting point is 00:57:28 He doesn't know what he's talking about, he's just a comedian, why does he think, there's that whole perspective that happens. But I didn't see a whole lot of that. What I saw. There was some? There were people who just told me that I, Dismissive.
Starting point is 00:57:43 That I missed the point or whatever, and I kind of engaged a little bit, at least on medium with a couple of those people. What I've learned is that, and I learned this a long time ago, I only engage with people whose initial salvo is thoughtful. It can be critical and it can be in disagreement with me but if it's not thoughtful and constructive,
Starting point is 00:58:04 I'm not gonna get into a conversation because I know that that person is not interested in a conversation. Like I had one guy on Twitter who was like, Robert E. Lee didn't support slavery. And I was like, okay, read this article from The Atlantic, which clearly shows that he did. He was a slave owner and he was actually recorded
Starting point is 00:58:25 as being a pretty harsh slave owner. And there's the thing about, well he was gonna fight for the Union, but he wanted to fight for the South. I'm not saying that Lincoln didn't ask him to fight for the Union, to lead the Union, but he was a slave holder and he was in support of slavery and the cause, whether he believed it or not,
Starting point is 00:58:41 the cause that he was fighting for was the cause of the Confederacy, which was to continue to have slaves, which was a state right, yes, but it was the only state right that anybody cared about. All that being said, that guy read that article and said, hey, thanks, I didn't know about this. I can't believe he responded that way.
Starting point is 00:58:58 But then I had a guy on Medium who was like, gave me a thoughtful response and I kind of gave him my thoughts back and he basically, he got a little dismissive and basically told me I was wrong but the thing that, I did see a few people who were like, thanks for writing this, I actually think differently about this now, which that, if one person feels differently then it was worth my time.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And then the other thing I saw is lots of people, I saw just people of color in general kind of coming up and saying, thank you for writing this. Thank you for someone in your position, a white dude in your position doesn't have to say anything to this. No one's pressuring you.
Starting point is 00:59:44 No one's expecting you to say anything, standing up and saying this, thank you for that. What I will say is I didn't see any people of color being like, why would you say this? At least in the online world that I'm in, that perspective does not exist. Someone who would disagree with that opinion who in, that perspective does not exist. Someone who would disagree with that opinion who's from that background.
Starting point is 01:00:08 But anyway, it's just what we try to do with our entertainment in general is we try to create a place where people can come and kind of forget about all the stuff that's going down in the world that brings people down and there's so much of it today. I agree. It is, it's to create an environment where we can build bridges, where we as humans
Starting point is 01:00:32 can come together and at least agree on, let's have some fun with this, these guys are eating this thing that's crazy. Yeah, I mean, our show is a distraction, right? And that's why. Can't we agree on that? And that's why our show is not going to become a play, like I'm not gonna, first of all, there was nothing funny in my article at all.
Starting point is 01:00:53 It was just serious, right? Because I was like, I'm not writing this from a comedic perspective. Our show, for the most part, almost always, is we're trying to be funny. We're trying to be a distraction. So we're not gonna bring these types of opinions. I'm not saying it's never going to happen.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Sometimes you just feel like we gotta say something about something, but that's not the purpose of our show, right? We're not Seth Meyers who like, okay, well, I'm gonna have a closer look when I talk about Trump every couple of nights. It's like that's what he's doing. That's his approach.
Starting point is 01:01:24 That's not typically what we do. We're kind of more of like the Jimmy Fallon approach which even when he spoke about the Charlottesville stuff, he had like a serious sort of monologue about the Charlottesville stuff. He was like this is not a political show. GMM is not a political show. We're not particularly political people.
Starting point is 01:01:41 But when I think that there's something that's not political that this is about humanity, this is just about humans getting along and this really transcends political party and affiliation, those are the things that we're gonna speak about when we feel like something needs to be said. And I don't wanna dismiss our show as being just a distraction.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I think we hear from a lot of people that for a lot of reasons it meets you where you are and gives you, it doesn't just distract you, somehow it gives you hope or energy to live your life. It helps. Yeah, I mean distraction in the best possible terms. Right, so it's, I do believe that our show and the heart behind it is to create bridges with comedy.
Starting point is 01:02:38 You know, it is kind of the same thing. The heart behind you writing that article was I just can't remain silent on something but I wanna do it in a way that, you wanted to try your best to do it your way that didn't build a wall, it built bridges. Yeah and I think that's what I, you know, that's what we wanna do with our show in general
Starting point is 01:02:57 and it's not a cheap thing just to get what maybe it points cheap laughs. That's not a cheap thing. I think we appreciate the fact that in hearing from them, the Mythical Beasts, that it is a very valuable thing. And it's kind of the same thing. One of the things that's happened, I think this has driven some perspective change
Starting point is 01:03:17 for us personally just over the decade of doing this job. We haven't been in space, okay? So we have not experienced the overview effect. I see where you're going though. But what we have done is we've built a fan base of, it's international, it transcends borders. Via the internet we've seen the pale blue dot. And so like just for.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Of humanity. Like 60, between 60 and 65% of our audience is based in the US. But that means that over a third of our audience is outside of this country. And sometimes you just only see things in this American political lens and that becomes your life and you just forget that,
Starting point is 01:04:09 you know, there's people who look at what's happening in our country from the outside and are like, how can you guys have come so far? How can you guys have done so much good for the world but have so much discord. It's nuts, it's so crazy how much hate and division there is and we've seen people, you know, it can be interesting, like,
Starting point is 01:04:35 we'll do something like I remember years ago, we did something where we just thanked the American forces, you know, it may have been Veterans Day or something where we talked about, and we'll continue to do that on those holidays and continue to thank our troops for their service. But what you see when you thank your troops for their service, then all of a sudden you've got somebody
Starting point is 01:04:56 who has a different perspective on your troops and what your troops are up to. You got somebody in another country who's been negatively affected by your troops and to see these two guys that you look up to like honoring the American troops is like, you're honoring the people who murdered my dad. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:14 It's like just stopping and thinking about that for a second, whether or not you think that every American war is justified or not, just stop and realize that well, for somebody whose family got killed, none of that wasn't justified and so, the perspective, our perspective has widened quite a bit. And even to bring it back to a positive,
Starting point is 01:05:41 I think that, I mean, it's an inspiring picture to think if all the Mythical Beasts who watch any given episode of Good Mythical Morning were in a room together. And you looked and then you're mixed randomly. And you look to your left, you look to your right, and I think I am proud of the fact that I think a lot of people would be shocked
Starting point is 01:06:13 at who was right there beside them. And who, oh, you're a mythical beast? I'm a mythical beast. I think that's ultimately what we're trying to do with our show and it's getting everyone together physically in one place and then we'll say, everyone turn to your left and massage the person. I hate that.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Don't you just hate it when people, now turn to the right, massage the shoulders to your right. We would never do that. Greasy shoulders. But I still think the analogy holds that if we were to do that, and we're not because of the massage thing, you look to your right, you look to your left.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Not because of the logistical problems associated with it. Get to a point where we're not shocked, but we're elated, we're all elated and it's like we're in this together. I have hope that our show can, does that. Yeah and you know what and I don't think that that means. Either that or be a cosmonaut. Yeah. You know, you can make a choice.
Starting point is 01:07:17 If you can do that, do that instead. And I don't think that that means that you lose your ability to disagree. This is another thing that bothers me is that there is just no room for disagreement right now. It's like everyone disagrees but no one can have a civil discussion. I don't think it means that you lose your political
Starting point is 01:07:38 identity, I don't think, if you're a small government pro-gun guy talking to a gun control big central government person and you're both mythical beasts, you can have a civil discussion about the merits of your platform. It doesn't, and you should be able to do that and you shouldn't write off either of those people just based on the fact that you find out that they believe that and you shouldn't think that they of those people just based on the fact that you find out
Starting point is 01:08:05 that they believe that and you shouldn't think that they want something that's worse for humanity just because you don't wanna take that small government pro-gun guy and immediately throw him into the white supremacist camp as if those two things are remotely similar. And so I just think that we're also trying to just to demonstrate a civil discussion and not getting mad,
Starting point is 01:08:31 not hurling personal insults, not judging people, prejudging people. I'm not saying we're doing, we're just beginning to kind of talk about this stuff, but we just hope that that's one of the things that's happening through our content too is that people can come together and then when they do disagree about something,
Starting point is 01:08:51 they can have a civil discussion and realize that being your mythical best involves having a civil discussion where you realize that your common humanity supersedes your political, religious ideology. On that note, I do wanna thank you guys supersedes your political, religious ideology. On that note, I do wanna thank you guys for being your mythical best. And in the conversations that you guys have with us, the feedback you give us online,
Starting point is 01:09:20 it's tremendously encouraging that you got big hearts. So thanks for being a part of the conversation. Hashtag Ear Biscuits. Yeah. We'll speak at you next week. This is the Easy Letdown. Is there music? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:39 There it is. Thank you. Bye.

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