Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 140: Witnessing Childbirth (AMA) | Ear Biscuits Ep. 140

Episode Date: April 23, 2018

R&L share details about childhood rooms, their wives' childbirth experiences, and more on this AMA episode. Listen to Ear Biscuits at:  Apple Podcasts: applepodcasts.com/earbiscuits Spotify: spo...ti.fi/2oIaAwp Art19: art19.com/shows/ear-biscuits SoundCloud: @earbiscuits Follow This Is Mythical: Facebook: facebook.com/ThisIsMythical Instagram: instagram.com/Mythical Twitter: twitter.com/Mythical Other Mythical Channels: Good Mythical Morning: www.youtube.com/user/rhettandlink2 Good Mythical MORE: youtube.com/user/rhettandlink3 Rhett & Link: youtube.com/rhettandlink Credits: Hosted By: Rhett & Link Executive Producer: Stevie Wynne Levine Managing Producer: Jacob Moncrief Technical Director & Editor: Kiko Suura Graphics: Matthew Dwyer Set Design/Construction: Cassie Cobb Content Manager: Becca Canote Logo Design: Carra Sykes To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I am Link. And I am Rhett. This week at the round table of dim lighting, you asked us anything and we're gonna answer anything. With everything. That we decided to answer. We're gonna give you everything.
Starting point is 00:00:24 In answer form. But we have a couple of little're gonna give you everything in answer form. But we have a couple of little things to update you about. One is- We're in announcement season. Ear Biscuits is gonna continue through the summer. We also are gonna have a short three week break from GMM and then we come back with Good Mythical Summer episodes. We also haven't talked about
Starting point is 00:00:39 if there's an Ear Biscuits break. It's like, we probably shouldn't be having all these logistic conversations on the show, but just suffice it to say, we're still figuring that out. No, but I actually was part of a conversation that you weren't part of. Oh really? Where there was definite discussion
Starting point is 00:00:53 about Ear Biscuits continuing through the summer. Not that there won't be a break of some kind. I don't wanna talk us into anything. You know me, man. Well you know me. And you know what I'm thinking. Let's make more business decisions right here on the internet in front of everyone.
Starting point is 00:01:09 You know what, let's just let you make them. Hashtag Ear Biscuits, you make the decision for us. That in itself is a business decision that you just made? That was a joke, well it was a joke. Oh well, okay. Okay so let's get to some of your questions. Jen S asks, if you had to replace one room in your current house with the same type of room
Starting point is 00:01:31 from your childhood home, could be bathroom, your bedroom, et cetera, and keep it as it was back then, same furniture, appliances, et cetera, which room would you replace and why? Nostalgia, practicality, hashtag Ear Biscuits. Great question, Jen. This is such an intricate, original question. Kudos to you, and I don't ever say kudos.
Starting point is 00:01:57 That might be the first time I've ever used that when I was not referring to the candy bar. Do they still make that? I don't know. What a good question. The funny thing is is- Kudos to kudos if they're still making kudos. Yeah, it's such a specific interesting question,
Starting point is 00:02:14 but it does immediately cause me to think. I haven't got any answer. I have an answer for this. Oh, okay, what's your answer? Well, we have a guest bedroom in my home, in my current home. Yeah. And it is.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I've seen it. I put my jacket on the bed in this bedroom. When? Well, when I've come over there and there's like friends over there and if friends have coats or jackets. You throw your jacket on the bed? That tends to be the bed where the jackets go.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Other people's jackets are put on the bed? Yeah, I saw a whole pile of them on that bed. Never seen it being used for anything but that, like for a guest. I don't know how I should feel about that. I feel like I should have a place for people to hang their coats, not just throw them on a bed. Yeah, you're messed up, man.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You're messed up or you've messed up. I think this means that you personally are morally corrupt. No, I actually think it's a good thing because a guest room, unless you constantly have guests, which would be stupid, and you're not because you don't, then it's a great utilization of that room when guests aren't there. Well, my- It's a coat holder.
Starting point is 00:03:21 My specific issue with the room It's not there, it's a coat holder. My specific issue with the room is that my wife was dead set on having a guest room and I totally get it and she's very hospitable, much more hospitable than me. Oh. And we do have, the guest room is used quite often, obviously when relatives come into town,
Starting point is 00:03:38 but sometimes if we've got a friend who's over and it's really late and they'll just be like, can I just stay in the guest bed? And they sleep in the guest bed. So that happens and I really like that and I understand the utility and also just the, you know, the hospitality in that. I thought you were gonna say that you didn't like it
Starting point is 00:03:56 because then it meant you had to have guests. No, I don't mind guests. And it also serves as the room that I sleep in when... Things go sideways? Well, no, I haven't done, when she's sick, when Jessie's sick. Quarantine room. So she's been sick, I'd say in the past three years
Starting point is 00:04:13 that we've been in this house, I've slept down there like four or five nights when it's like a real bad night, she's coughing or something like that. Or if I'm really sick and I'm trying to get away from her. Wow. For some reason she gets the nice bed and I go down to the guest bed.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Gotta think about that a little bit more. But my issue with it is that there's no, it's only used a very small, probably a single percentage amount of the time. But the coats. Even then you're still in an eight, 9% of total usage of this room, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And what I would like it to be is I would like it to be more like what we call the extra room in my childhood home. Remember that? Oh yeah. Me and you spent a lot of time in the extra room. The extra room was where me and you, like if you spent the night, we stayed in that room
Starting point is 00:04:57 because it had the TV. Well, here's my recollection of the room, see if I'm right. You go up the stairs and instead of then wrapping around to go to either your room or your brother Cole's room or then wrap around further to the bathroom, you hang a left at the top of the stairs and there's this extra room that then it had brown carpet,
Starting point is 00:05:17 it had a brown couch that would pull out into a bed. It had a brown television on a brown TV stand. Lots of brown in your memory. That it had a remote, but it was like one of the first television remotes that was made. It was a remote that had two buttons. It had a power button, it had channel up, channel down,
Starting point is 00:05:48 and then it had volume up. I could sketch you a picture of this remote that you're talking about. And it was huge. It was like a matchbox. It's amazing, okay. It's like it was a hide-a-key. First of all, let me. For like a huge freaking key.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Let me confirm. And then there was an exercise bike. Well, that was later, but let me confirm a few of the things, and then I'm gonna point out a few things that you got wrong. So interestingly, you had the entire layout of the house correct except you didn't go left. When you got to the top of the stairs,
Starting point is 00:06:12 you just went right across. Yeah, you're straight. It wasn't brown. It was mustard yellow carpet, which I guess could be construed to be brown. Well, it was dirty. It was old. It was very old.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Okay, I see it though. The couch was. It was very old. Okay, I see it though. The couch was. It was like that Chinese takeout mustard color. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean since you, brown, you know, you could call it brown. The TV was not brown, the TV was black and silver because it was a Zenith. Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And the remote was also black and silver. And the remote was a brick, was the exact dimensions of an actual brick? And it had a power button that was, that was. What was hidden in this remote? Well, I know you're like, why are you guys talking so much about this remote? But I have to tell you because.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I remember this remote. It had a power button. Incorrectly, but it left an impression on me. If you looked at the remote from the top, it was all metallic on one side and then all black on the other side, and the black part was where it had the buttons, and it had a power button which was beige
Starting point is 00:07:14 and went all the way across. It was a big horizontal, like a space bar. And then it had a channel button, and then it had another horizontal button, which I think was the mute button. You wanna have a really big power button so when your mom comes up those stairs to see what you're watching,
Starting point is 00:07:28 you can just, you can scramble and turn it off. Party in progress. Had to turn party in progress off. And then it had up and down volume. But it was so powerful. I'm sure that it gave, I was exposed to something that may manifest itself as cancer later in my life because it was such a powerful remote.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I remember I used to take the thing and I would put it underneath the couch and then put pillows all around my hand to test it. You create an obstacle course for your remote. And then I would hit channel up and it would change. It's like you cannot do that with the modern infrared remotes. It was like magic.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I don't know how it worked and why don't they still do that? Because just before that, there were television remotes. I didn't own one but, because we were too smart for this, it was a remote that was connected by a wire, a cord. You have like a 12-foot cord to the television. Well, I mean, you might trip somebody
Starting point is 00:08:23 but at least you didn't have to get up. Yeah, that was the first remote, was just a tethered box. It's a tethered remote. And then I think when they had to remove that tether with whatever technology they used, the remotes got huge. And they slowly got smaller, just like phones. But I would have that room in my house now because it had a television in it,
Starting point is 00:08:43 which is the one thing that I've talked to with Jessie about is like, we need a room that the kids can go and watch television in when they have their friends over because our house is so open that there's two TVs in two different parts of the house, but they both, their sound bleed. And you know, you kind of- So you wanna be able to make that room like a playroom.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah, but you could still have a pullout couch. Sure, yeah. For guests and we get into an argument about whether or not pullout couches are good enough to sleep on for guests. But okay, that's what I would do. You don't want them staying forever. I'd put that room in that place.
Starting point is 00:09:18 What would you do? I would put my childhood bedroom in the place of either one of my boys' bedrooms. Because my- And they would have to play with your stuff? My childhood bedroom, it did have a little television. But it didn't have as many screens. Do you want me to tell you what I remember
Starting point is 00:09:38 about your childhood bedroom before you tell me what you knew, what was true about it? Okay, yeah. Now I'm not going all the way back to the Jimmy house. I'm going to the- Right. From fourth grade. Fourth grade house. Until college. Because I honestly don't remember much
Starting point is 00:09:53 about that first house. Me neither, actually. Well, I do, but. You walked into the house. Ironically, I recreated my bedroom when mom was married to Jimmy. That bedroom from like kindergarten to third grade, I basically recreated that in my current,
Starting point is 00:10:17 in what you're about to describe, my second, fourth grade bedroom. It's like a lot of the same decor. Okay. Same furniture. I mean, we just moved everything and then I like reconfigured it. You walked into the house through the carport. You took a left and then there was a door
Starting point is 00:10:33 to a guest bathroom and then you would walk through the guest bathroom to on the other side of the door, the other door, then you come into your room. You could also come in the front door and straight into the living room then take an immediate right and go into your bedroom. You could also come in the front door and straight into the living room and then take an immediate right and go into your bedroom. So you had two entries to your bedroom, which I always thought was very cool
Starting point is 00:10:51 because I didn't have that. No, your exits. You know, I had one in and one out. Yep. And there, so let's say I'm walking out of the bathroom and then there's your bed on the left centered in the wall. You've got a bedside table with a Garfield phone. I remember that because it's also,
Starting point is 00:11:14 there's a picture of it in the Book of Mythicality. But then right at the foot of the bed, there is a dresser with a television on it? Yeah. And then the closet is on the right side. Yeah. Like a foldy, bi-fold doors closet. And I remember you had a wooden bed that had
Starting point is 00:11:35 wooden balls on top of the post that I would play with and take off of the bed. You could twist them off. Had an NC State bedspread? No. You didn't? No. You had an NC State pillow? No, I had an NC State trash can. Trash can?
Starting point is 00:11:53 With one of those basketball hoop things on the trash can that you'd throw your trash in as in order to like make it through the hoop. And we also, we had that in our office for a long time. Same trash can. Yep, that's right. I don't know how that got moved there, but as a grown adult,
Starting point is 00:12:11 we have my childhood trash can in my office. But you would put this in your home now. It's a small bedroom. Yeah, the one thing you forgot is I had a, my stepdad Jimmy made a bench that the seat hinged open and it was a toy box. I had a- Oh, at the foot of the bed.
Starting point is 00:12:30 No, at the side of the bed, in between the two windows that were the front of the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I had a freaking toy box in my bedroom until I went to college. Yeah, I thought about that from time to time. I had a bulletin board on my wall that had like a bunch of knickknacks
Starting point is 00:12:46 from art that I made in middle school and it kept accumulating all the way through high school. I mean, my room aged me down for many years. It looked like a little boy's room until you became a man and then it still looked like a little boy's room. you became a man and then it still looked like a little boy's room. Right. Nothing to be ashamed about.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Fun fact. At least you don't have that room anymore. Go into Lando's room right now, you can screw off the top of the bedpost. You do that from time to time for old time's sake? No, but the reason why you can do it is because it is that bed. It's the same bed.
Starting point is 00:13:24 It's my bed. I was telling her, I was like, Lando, you know what? This bed, I slept in this bed my entire life, literally. I did not know that you had that bed in this room. Yeah, it's painted white because we put it in Lily's room when she was a baby. And Christy wanted me to paint it white and now it's been white ever since,
Starting point is 00:13:42 but it's in Lando's room. And it's that same one. I have a white bed in my bedroom. It's like I sleep in a big princess bed. Yeah, maybe you wanna swap it out. But there's not a lot of technology in there. It's just a lot of nostalgia. So I'd like to go into one of my kids' bedrooms
Starting point is 00:13:58 and like step back into my childhood and not have as, it wouldn't have as many screens to worry about. Right, that one kid would be a little bit advantaged and disadvantaged all at the same time. Yeah, you start having girlfriends, you have to talk to her on a Garfield phone. That's healthy, man.
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Starting point is 00:15:12 Not Morgan Morgan? No, this is Morgan R. I mean, yeah, I can say her name. She's not asking an embarrassing question. Morgan Roland. Okay. Is there something you have done or said in publicly distributed entity,
Starting point is 00:15:27 GMM, Ear Biscuits, Interview Etc, that you regret? Yes. Do we regret anything that we've put out there on the internet? Well, yes. I mean. I can think of a very recent example. Well, okay, I know what you're thinking.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I was also thinking, and maybe we talked about this, I think we talked about this in a live AMA somewhere. Maybe it was in a Q&A after a tour of Mythicality stop where someone asked us why they can't watch the Guacamole song anymore and it's because we made it private because we just didn't think that it was, it comes across as culturally insensitive, the way that we portrayed ourselves
Starting point is 00:16:13 and the characters we played in the Guacamole song. So it was worth much more to be respectful than it was to keep an old video up there. Yeah, a lot of people ask about that one. We've changed and the world has changed quite a bit and looking back over 10 years of that video, it was like, ooh, this is a- And I think that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:16:34 This strikes differently than it did back then. But the most recent example that I'm thinking about is the international food taste test, the most recent Dart food taste test on GMM where Link brought in the professional Dartist. The actual origins of dishes that you thought were from one place but they're actually from another and one of those was?
Starting point is 00:16:58 Chicken Kiev and we in our ignorance were just like, well obviously this is from Russia, which is the capital of Ukraine. So it's funny, things like this, you know. Even what you said wasn't right. You said Russia was the capital of Ukraine. I said Kyiv, which is the capital of Ukraine. I didn't hear you right.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And Ukraine is very contentiously not Russia, right? That's what the whole controversy's about. So now this is one of those things that like, what's the best way to address this? Because what I will say is that yes, now that I think about it and when Stevie pointed it out in the video in a moment, it was like, oh yeah, of course. A minute later in the video, we're like,
Starting point is 00:17:48 oh, that was a big mistake. And we left all that in the edit, which I'll come back to in a minute. But what you see in the comments, and this is just a very common thing, is that the moment you make the ignorant, misinformed, insensitive comment that we made, or not comment, but statement that we made
Starting point is 00:18:04 about Kyiv being in Russia and being incorrect, that's when people who take this personally, who know about the situation and take it personally and are offended, that's when they begin to comment. A minute later, they've already hit send on their comment and now they see that we actually say, oh crap, we're gonna piss people off when we said that.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And a couple of people did say, oh I'm sorry, I made this comment before I saw that you guys corrected yourself or whatever. But I would say I definitely regret that, but at the same time, it is not the first or the last time that we're gonna say something that is ignorant, insensitive, misinformed, can be construed and misunderstood and will offend people because it is the nature of the way that we make our show
Starting point is 00:18:47 and we do our stuff. Yeah, you know what, it's funny because I was actually thinking about the way that we make our show this morning. I don't know what got me to thinking about it but I was appreciating the fact that, you know, very early on we decided that we weren't gonna make that we weren't gonna make Good Mythical Morning a jump cut show.
Starting point is 00:19:09 We weren't gonna make it have a lot of cuts. We were gonna move at speed of conversation and the edit was gonna reflect that. The edit was gonna be very minimal or not at all. As production is increasing, we're doing more things physically, it requires us to like stop down and like bring stuff in and set stuff up that is just plain boring.
Starting point is 00:19:37 But in terms of conversation and what happens, I think we're, I really am glad that we made that decision because I think a hallmark of the show, I guess I don't think about it that often, I was just thinking about it this morning, was that some of the best parts of the show are those just honest moments of something happening. That there's not a lot of internet content out there
Starting point is 00:20:04 where you see unexpected things happen as a cornerstone of any other property. You know, I think, you know, if I am to talk about like a daily vlog or somebody who's just catching everything and then they're making a calculated editorial decision to show you something that was spontaneous. But it's being packaged. You know, it's like, it's being, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:35 you got a vlogger who, the classic, I'm vlogging and then something makes a noise and it distracts the person, so then they make a funny comment about it and then they get back to their thing. Well and they include that in the jump cut to give you kind of a behind the scenes view on like remember how I'm making this vlog.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Things are happening or I'm messing up and for comedic effect I can add these things in or just for a level of sincerity or whatever. Right. But I think our show thrives on the fact that those things, we mess up or something goes sideways and then that's the thing that we walk away like, yes, something happened.
Starting point is 00:21:17 We like the things that surprise us. We were surprised. I've said before, the things that my favorite parts, my favorite shows, my favorite shows and moments within shows are the moments when we make each other laugh based on something that was just accidental or unexpected. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:34 But it's not just that, it's not just the funny stuff. It's just that, okay, this is what we plan to do and it's pretty live, you know, it has this feel that, this is what we plan to do and it's pretty live. You know, it has this feel that, I'm proud of our show that it is, that we, I didn't know it was gonna work this way, but that it's kinda like, okay, let's see what happens. Yeah, because the show's-
Starting point is 00:22:01 As a viewer and as us, we're all seeing what's gonna happen. Because the show is not scripted. You know, we talked before about, we talked about kind of like the changes with GMM 22. People felt like things felt more scripted even though we were basically doing things the way we had done them.
Starting point is 00:22:17 We have parts of the show that are scripted, like the very beginning of the show or when we're setting up an item that we're bringing in. Or setting up like how a game works just so we don't get bogged down. Because we don't want to waste your time with a bunch of details that we're just figuring out off the top of our heads.
Starting point is 00:22:33 But then once we set up a structure and it's just basically anything goes at that point. And the funny thing is, this is an interesting middle ground, right? Because you've got live streamers, which we all know the infamous examples of people getting in trouble for saying things on a live stream. Now here's what I will say is that there are a number
Starting point is 00:22:54 of things that we've said on Good Mythical Morning that we had to edit out because we were like. And you know, yeah, well I won't cut you off, go ahead. The way that that came across, again, this is none of this stuff would were like, uh. And you know, yeah, well I won't cut you off, go ahead. The way that that came across, again, none of this stuff would be like, oh I can't believe they said that, but it's the kind of things that we know how the internet responds to things
Starting point is 00:23:13 and something was said in the moment or somebody made a joke and they didn't realize, oh I didn't mean to make that joke, but we end up crossing the line and saying some things sometimes and then the crew will laugh and we'll all know, okay, well that can't go in the edit. That's the nature of just doing something off the cuff.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And that's maybe happened a handful of times even on an Ear Biscuit. But it's not nearly the level, because we do have the option to edit things out. But when it comes to something like the chicken Kiev screw up that we made, I think usually what happens is if we say something and we're like,
Starting point is 00:23:49 I can see how that could be taken the wrong way. I didn't mean it for it to come across like that. So at the end of an episode, we'll say, hey Stevie, hey Darren, let's take that out. And sometimes they just make the call to do that on their own or the editor makes the call to do that if they think that there's something that could be taken the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:24:08 But that chicken Kiev moment wasn't one of them, right? And I'm not saying it was some huge controversy and we've like lost, I mean, there was one person who said you've lost a fan. And listen, I understand, I don't understand, but I appreciate how sensitive of an issue the whole Ukraine thing is and so it's like, for us to in our American ignorance,
Starting point is 00:24:30 you know, we have the privilege of being ignorant about so many other areas in the world and it's a thing that would come across as arrogant and insensitive to me if I was not in the United States. So I completely understand it. You know, we're the only people in the world that only speak one language. We can get by with just speaking English.
Starting point is 00:24:51 So it's easy to hate, it's easy to hate Americans. And so I totally get that and when we say something like that it seems like we're just completely missing the boat. But we didn't really understand how sensitive it would be to some people, some people would respond to it, so in retrospect, would have taken it out. But it's an example of one of those things
Starting point is 00:25:10 that I regret saying that, and I also regret not just saying it, but regret that you ended up hearing it. Do you regret talking about it right now? Probably, yeah. Probably, yeah. Coral Dalzell asks, what was it like when your first kids were born? Working in maternity has me see a wide variety of dad reactions to the birthing process
Starting point is 00:25:39 and I was wondering what yours were. We know each other's, who should go first? Based on that knowledge. what yours were. We know each other's, who should go first? Based on that knowledge. I mean, yours is probably funnier than mine. Oh, now I gotta be funny? Well, I'm just saying that I think, well, but you had a different,
Starting point is 00:25:55 your wife wasn't. Just go ahead then. I can't make any guarantees as to how funny I'm gonna be. Well, my, Locke's birth was relatively uneventful. 14 years ago, it's hard to remember 14 years ago. I just remember that, you know, Jessie was dead set, we were not about the natural birth thing.
Starting point is 00:26:20 She was dead set on all the drugs and all the injections that would make it an easy process. She made that decision without shame from all the women who told her that she needed to go into a river and just poop the baby out into the creek. She was like, I see. You know, creek poop, baby.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Creek poop. So good for you ladies who make that decision, but that was not the decision that my wife and I made, and it was not my decision, it was her decision. And I was fully supportive of it. So she basically had some difficulty with the labor, but then she took the drugs and had the epidural injection, and I went to sleep on a couch, and then I remember.
Starting point is 00:27:04 You woke up and the baby was there? No, no, no, I remember being awakened by a nurse who said, get ready, you're about to become a father. Oh, wow. And I stood up. That's a rude awakening. The doctor came in there and I'd say within 20 minutes we had a baby and relatively uneventful.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Did you pull on anything or cut anything? I don't remember. I don't think. Did you like hold an ankle? I wouldn't, no, no, I actually, I stayed back. I stood at a safe distance. Like when you see, you know, like when you see like a scuffle at an Arby's,
Starting point is 00:27:40 you know what I'm saying? Ha! Dang, Arby's gonna have a scuffle. And you're like, that's curly fries, they'll get you hot. I don't know if I should get involved in this, I'm a big guy, I could probably get in there and restrain somebody.
Starting point is 00:27:53 How could you even say that? Are you accessing a memory? I've been in, I mean, I've watched a lot of internet videos too, I've seen many a scuffle at a menu in Arby's. You like Google Arby's scuffle? Everybody do the Arby's scuffle. There's so many ways we could take that.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Arby'sscuffle.com. It's a place where you either learn how to dance or you just see a bunch of videos of people fighting in an Arby's. That would be Arby's Shuffle though. No, no, the Arby's Scuffle is a dance that looks like you're fighting. You're fighting.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Are those two people fighting? No, they're dancing. It's a two person thing. Cause there's only so many like tight curly fries to go around and then everybody else is left with just the C-shaped curly fries. Yeah, you don't want that. If I want C-shaped fries, I'm gonna order C fries.
Starting point is 00:28:36 But you can put your. But if I want curly fries, if I order curly fries, I expect them all to be curly. All of them. But you can put a C fry into your nose like a bull ring. Well that's fine and good, Rhett, but then the menu should say. Bull fries?
Starting point is 00:28:50 Like bull nose fries with a few curly pigtails thrown in. Because that's what it is. I think you're asking too much of Arby's. So you're, so you're. I stood at a safe distance and no one consulted me. I'm not the best. Do you think the baby should come out at this point, sir? I'm not the best in birth and death situations.
Starting point is 00:29:15 No. Like the beginning and the ending of life is not where you go to the register for comfort or like words of wisdom. You kind of just go to me for like safe distance, slightly concerned stares. Yeah, you become like human wallpaper. Yeah, like I don't know what to say
Starting point is 00:29:33 to people who are going through hard things. I'm actually learning, I am learning about how to connect more with this part of my humanity. Your pecs. And not just this part of my, yeah, I'm really working on my pecs. You should be a doula. I was pointing to my heart, by the way,
Starting point is 00:29:49 for those of you who listen to Ear Biscuits, bless you for that. I think you should, well, all right, let's put a pin in the doula thing. Yeah, so ultimately, it was pretty uneventful. I did not offer a lot. I don't think I looked engaged enough for anyone to ask me anything like,
Starting point is 00:30:08 sir, do you wanna come in and cut something? Oh gosh. So I didn't say anything. I just remember they put Locke in like a little incubator, not an incubator, but the little, because he wasn't like- The tub, it's a tub. It's like a warming thing, but it's not for preemies. It's just where all babies go.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah, it's like at Arby's where they put the all babies go. Yeah, it's like at Arby's where they put the fries under there. Yeah, it's just like Arby's. The whole hospital is like Arby's. Right, come to think of it, because I visited, it was in Arby's. Yeah, that explains a lot. That's why I never got a bill.
Starting point is 00:30:41 But then I just kinda like, that's when I began to talk to him and sort of like came out of the shell and became a father. Yeah. Shepherd on the other hand, different story, I'll tell it another time. In the past, you've added a part to that story which you left out which was like,
Starting point is 00:31:01 there was like multiple layers to the birth and you decided to leave that part out. That's Shepherd's birth. Oh. You talking about the screaming and the? Yeah, you might as well tell, I gotta hear it. Well, I mean, I wanna hear your story, but I'll tell the quick version.
Starting point is 00:31:18 We thought we were gonna do exactly the same thing with Shepherd, you know, take the drugs, get the epidural, but what happened was when Jesse got to the doctor. What had happened was. What had happened was is we got to the doctor and they like tested her, you know, checked on the dilation situation. And they were like, oh, you might as well just go back home.
Starting point is 00:31:41 But then Jesse was like, I don't think so. I think I'm having this baby right now. And then another doctor came in and said, you are having the baby right now and we don't have time for any of the things that we planned. The first person must have been measuring in the wrong spot. I think they were using a curly fry instead of a finger. But the,
Starting point is 00:32:03 the dilation of your, I don't know how many different things you can measure the dilation of, but the, so. The dilation of your, I don't know how many different things you can measure the dilation of, but. Three curls of a curly fry. You gotta get that, you gotta get that. She's three curls! Right. So the doctor that was supposed to deliver the baby was currently in the shower at home, and so another doctor,
Starting point is 00:32:22 it might have been a janitor, I don't know, it was just a dude with a coat on, he delivered the baby. Stranger to you. But she did it completely natural, going against all her best intentions, and she screamed so loudly that I was embarrassed. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:40 I'm also easily kind of embarrassed in situations like that, in social situations. So on the scale. She's like a voice major. Was this like a operatic crack the glass kind of situation? There was nothing beautiful about it at all. It was blood curdling.
Starting point is 00:32:54 And it was, the way I described it later was, it was as if she was about to be in a head on collision and she knew it and she was screaming that way and then it kept happening over and over again, like a hella situation. But again, I was more embarrassed than sympathetic. Every contraction, it wasn't just the last moment. No, that went on for, well,
Starting point is 00:33:18 from the time she said this baby is coming to the doctor saying this baby is coming, it was like 12 minutes or something. And Shepard was there. And that really just basically was indicative of what he was going to be like for the rest of his life. People would like look at you and you were like, ah, I do not know this woman.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, it's like, isn't this gonna make the hospital look bad? They got women like this screaming in here? Close the windows. Should be in an Arby's right now. Okay. Well, you know I'm not great with blood flow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:52 But you talk about circulation and I get queasy. I knew I had to be seated for the birth of Lily and the subsequent two. But they induced Christy and 12 hours later, you know they give you this magic Pitocin stuff and it makes you have a baby. That's how babies are made, it's called Pitocin. That didn't work.
Starting point is 00:34:20 So at some point they're like monitoring all these vitals of everybody involved, not me. I'm not really involved at this point. And they had to make an executive decision for her to be rushed into a C-section. They cut you open like a watermelon and pull out another bit smaller watermelon. Yep, that's how it's done.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And as anxious as I was about being party to a vaginal delivery, I've been waiting to use that terminology. Yeah. I was much more scared when we were walking into an emergency, an operating room, and I'm like getting scrubbed up. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And then, I honestly, I've told this story before, and it would help me remember it by listening back to that, but I don't know where I've told it, but it was, so I don't know if this was the first or not, but because once you have one C-section, she, Christy ended up having three, one for every child. It's very dangerous to have a- A VBAC, they call it.
Starting point is 00:35:30 A VBAC after you've had- Vaginal birth after C-section, VBAC. Oh, that's the whole thing, okay. Yeah. It's an acronym for the whole situation. Yeah, it is. Because my sister-in-law- She did it.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Did that and it was, I don't wanna say she almost died but maybe she almost died. Well and my layman's understanding of it is once you have a healed C-section scar and you're trying to have a normal birth, like all of that pressure and pushing could just, you could just explode like a Arby's roast beef filled balloon.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Oh God. And Lord knows we didn't want that to happen. But with the first one, it was like, oh man, we didn't talk too much about C-section, it's happening. She's in the operating room. More like a beef and cheddar. I'm out, oh gosh, I'm outside putting on my scrubs and they forget about me.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Of course. And they're like, You're not important. They're going about their business and I'm getting worried. I'm like, oh crap, they're not coming out. I'm not in there. I'm gonna miss this thing
Starting point is 00:36:36 and I didn't have anybody to talk to. And then finally, a nurse is like, get in here. Get in here, you moron. The doctor knew that I was queasy about the whole thing. They put a curtain up and I'm up by Christy's face. And then below the curtain, they're making like operational incisions and stuff or one major one.
Starting point is 00:36:59 These days it's super small for what they do. And I had such a rapport with the doctor and he knew that I was queasy, but then it, and like I was hiding behind this curtain, like trying to be supportive to Christy, but I'm not fascinated about what's happening on the other, down there. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I don't, I've never, I don't watch footage of any type of surgery, like I'm not crazy. Or weird. Well, I'm thankful for crazy and weird people because that's- I am too, man. Those are the doctors. Yeah, and yeah, by my definition. And then, but then he was like,
Starting point is 00:37:36 they were working on it for a while and all of a sudden he starts yelling at me and he's like, Link, stand up and watch the miracle of your baby being born. This is amazing. You stand up and you watch this happen. Wow. And again, he was, you know, he was,
Starting point is 00:38:00 we were very friendly, like in all the, we had gotten to know him very well. This was not a janitor like you had. And so he had earned the right to speak to me that way and I respected the fact that he did that and then I'm slowly standing up and then I see him freaking pull a human out of a big cut in my wife. But then your eyes are drawn to the human
Starting point is 00:38:27 and not to the cut and they take her over that way and then it's like, you know, and I was okay. But I was scared. It was a lot, man, I really went through a lot. I did, but I did great. You did great. I was a champ. You know? And I was also very anxious about should I film this
Starting point is 00:38:49 and when should I be filming? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody tells you, you know, if I had to do it again, I would've hired somebody to do all of that. I stopped filming, I don't think you might. It didn't seem right. Nobody told me to, but I stopped filming pretty early. It didn't seem right to be filming that thing.
Starting point is 00:39:06 The process, I mean. Yeah, you got the baby. Why do you need footage? I got some footage of her, of Lily, and like when they're, you know, like right when she first starts crying and stuff like that. That's cool. I did pretty good.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I'm pretty proud of myself. I didn't faint. It's not like when I got cut by the Barbie or the knife opening the Barbie. That's another story I've told. This is an interesting one. Kelly. That took a while but you know what, it was worth it.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah, totally worth it. Kelly Jane Hartman, how do you put on your shoes? Do you go sock, sock, shoe, shoe, or sock, shoe, sock, shoe? Does anyone go sock, sock, shoe, shoe, or sock, shoe, sock, shoe? Does anyone go sock, shoe, sock, shoe? I did very recently. What? Yeah, I thought it's so weird that she asked this question because I go sock, sock, shoe, shoe normally,
Starting point is 00:39:59 but I was thinking about this specific, because you know me, a man of procedure. I literally was thinking about this, just because you know me, a man of procedure. I literally was thinking about this, just like, so kudos, Kelly. What had happened was, I had gotten these new shoes. I got these boots here that I'm wearing. Well, not these, but they were like this.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And I was really excited. I'm like breaking them in, I'm like trying them out. I got up the next morning after wearing these shoes home and breaking them in and I was so excited when I was putting on my shoes to come into work that I put on one sock and then I couldn't wait to put on the shoe. I was literally so excited to put on the shoe
Starting point is 00:40:39 that I put it on before I put on the other sock. How did that make you feel? Great. You know, you gotta have something to get you through the day and that day, yesterday, I think it was, it was getting my shoe on as soon as possible. But you don't plan on repeating this?
Starting point is 00:40:58 No, once, once. This is only a new shoe practice. Yeah, only with new shoes would I do such a thing. Because you know better than I do, but from an efficiency standpoint, sock sock shoe shoe is definitely the most efficient. I think they're equally as efficient. No.
Starting point is 00:41:12 In terms of time, it should be the same. I don't know, I don't think so. Because I think, first of all, when you get into a mode and a rhythm of repeated motion, even just one repetition, you do the second one a little bit faster. When it's back to back. But also, you've got focus on the socks
Starting point is 00:41:33 and you've got two socks in your hands. And if you're like me, you hold the other sock while you put the other one sock on. Well that's, you know what? That's slick, man. You hold that sock in like this part of your palm and then as soon as you get through with the left sock, and I go left sock first, I move over to,
Starting point is 00:41:50 I like unfold it almost in one motion. Wow. And then go to the right sock. It's just, I mean, it's just something I've learned over time. So there's no way that sock-shoe-sock-shoe can be faster than that. But along those same lines, so I got these,
Starting point is 00:42:05 you know, not a sponsor, Clark's Desert boots, because that's what Anthony Bourdain wears everywhere, and I'm like, he travels the world, he's cool. And I got them, and I'm like breaking them in, wearing them a lot, and a lot of people are like, if you're gonna be doing a lot of walking, it could be good to get insoles, and so I got like some Dr. Scholl's insoles
Starting point is 00:42:27 to put on top of the insoles of the boots because they're kind of thin. That's always a good sign of a good pair of shoes is when you gotta buy something else to go in them to make them workable. But last night, we've been talking a lot about being naked lately, but I'll just continue.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Last night I was naked in my bedroom. Except the boots. Seriously? And it was like midnight 30. And I was still up and I am like, I gotta cut these insoles to fit the shoes and I was anxious just like you, putting the shoe on before the sock.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I gotta do this right now and so I'm sitting there, I put on the shoes, I cut the, I put on the socks, I cut the insoles, I put them on and then I sit there, I'm in my boots and then I just stand up and I didn't know my wife was still awake. And I'm sitting there, naked except for boots on, in my bedroom and I hear her say, I should take a picture of this. Because I'm just standing there naked in boots.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And then I'm like, I was like, and then I said, you know what? Maybe this is the moment. Maybe this is when I just post my naked. Nudes? Oh gosh. This is when I post my nudes. Oh and where would you post them?
Starting point is 00:43:53 Instagram, RhettMC. I would also, but it would be taken down very quickly, so I would do it on Twitter, where it would not be taken down. So RhettMC on Twitter, you wanna see the nudes. Me in boots and nothing else. I don't mean to burst. Socks, I did have socks and insoles.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Dr. Scholl's also not a sponsor, but I'm gelling and they feel real good right now. I don't mean to burst your bubble, but with that last story and especially with the plug, you have brought this on yourself. Of course, when you were talking about these desert boots, which I've had and I warned you about, I was like, I had those a couple of years back
Starting point is 00:44:31 and they're not that great. Ben was there for this conversation. Ben comes to work the next day and he's talking to me about how we're gonna approach shooting some of this stuff. You're not there. And he's like, hey, don't tell Rhett this, but you know how he's talking about how Anthony Bourdain wears those boots everywhere and it's what he swears by and he wears them all the time
Starting point is 00:44:57 and they're his travel boots. He's like, well, I was watching some Anthony Bourdain. And he didn't have them. And he said the opening scene of the episode that I happened to watch started on a closeup of Anthony Bourdain's boots. And they were cowboy boots. And then it pans, it tilts up his body.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Okay, all right. And then he says, and then there's a voiceover from Anthony Bourdain and he says, "'For as far back as I can remember, "'I've worn these cowboy boots everywhere.'" That's not true though. Swear, that's what Ben told me. And he was like, don't tell Rhett
Starting point is 00:45:41 because he was so excited about these boots. Well, no, no, no, no, no. So I will. That's what he said. I mean, I'm just saying that's what he said. And you know what? Don't tell Ben that I told you because he told me not to tell you. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I found a picture of Anthony Bourdain with cowboy boots on when I did the research. I saw it in an article and then I look at all the pictures and I saw that he had these boots on in lots of different places. And then separately, somebody who works here was like, oh, that's what Anthony Bourdain wears all the time. And I was like, yeah, that's why I got him.
Starting point is 00:46:13 But I have seen other pictures. He does have cowboy boots. When he did a cowboyish thing somewhere, on a ranch or whatever, he had cowboy boots. Anyway, you know, I'm not saying, again, I could be wearing tennis shoes, but you know what I, the other thing I did? Anthony Bourdain doesn't have to have worn those shoes
Starting point is 00:46:32 for you to just read that he wears them so that then you'll have an excuse to buy them. Do you know who I looked up before I looked up Anthony Bourdain, you know who I was trying to figure out what they wear? Who's that host of Double Dare that then got his own like How It's Made show? Mark Summers?
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah. I don't care what kind of, he wears loafers. Who's the guy who hosted the Family Feud after? Rick Holmes. Yeah. He's dead. Was it him? No.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Who's the guy who invented Arby's? Was it him? Mr. Arby. Was it him? Mr. Arby. Was it him? No. Cowboy. It is the guy, oh, Jack and Finn? Harry's. Oh yeah, they went to India.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Well, they're all over the place all the time. They're like the coolest, most adventurous, most ecologically minded YouTubers on the face of the planet. Good guys too, we met them in Nice a few years ago. Those guys have always been way ahead of the curve, super smart and kind of like, you always get the feeling that they kind of like,
Starting point is 00:47:38 they look at the business of YouTube and the chasing the fame and stuff and they just kind of moved out of that lane and said they just wanted to go do what they wanted to do. One of them went to school and one of them travels the world and they both travel the world. Anyway, they got great Instagrams. Even better than RedMC, I gotta say.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Their Instagrams are even better than RedMC. Of course you're not gonna mention. Jack Harry's and Finn Harry's. I don't know what the specific handles are. But they're like the epitome of travel cool. And so I was like. They got accents too. I wonder what boots they wear.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Oh. And so I gotta say, I did a lot of like pinching and zooming on Jack and Finn's boots as they traveled the world to try to figure out what they wore. And the problem is is that one of them wore the Chelsea boot quite a bit, which is the one without laces.
Starting point is 00:48:29 And I just don't think that that looks good on me. You know the one that had like the elastic on the side? Yeah. You wouldn't wear those. No. It elongates the foot. But they make it look so cool. I like something that shortens the foot. Maybe it's just because I'm a big guy, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:48:45 but they make it look cool. So then I was like, They both wear them? Who's an older, taller, slightly less cool but still cool guy? Anthony Bourdain, and that's how I got to Anthony Bourdain and that's how I got to the desert boots. You see my process. You see the things I do with my time.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I think we see your soul. My psychosis? Yeah, I didn't say psychosis, okay, yes. No, you wanna save these other questions for another time. Absolutely, I think we, you know, certainly again we will prompt more questions and we will, there's a few of these we didn't get to
Starting point is 00:49:21 that we'll sit on a little bit, we'll get back to and maybe next month, I think we'll do one of these we didn't get to that we'll sit on a little bit. We'll get back to in maybe next month. I think we'll do one of these about every month or so. Yeah continue, so we'd love your feedback. Again we won't necessarily take it but we would love it. And no we will take it, we will take it into consideration. But what we're doing right now with Ear Biscuits that we're playing around with is we're doing these AMAs
Starting point is 00:49:47 on a regular basis. We're also working in a rabbit hole and we're working in a couple of more focused questions, whether that be about some subject, travel, parenting, whatever. Let us know what you're thinking, which ones you're really enjoying so we can continue to make ear biscuits
Starting point is 00:50:08 that you like to put in your ears. Simple as that. We'll speak at you again next week. Thanks for being here.

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