Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 183: What is Our Relationship w/ Gross Foods? | Ear Biscuits Ep. 183

Episode Date: March 4, 2019

Bugs, blood, and the world's spiciest pepper. You may have seen them eat it all, but how were they actually feeling in the process? R&L reveal it all and how their culinary exploits on Good Mythical M...orning may have changed their views on food forever on this episode of Ear Biscuits. Sponsored by: Headspace: Go to Headspace.com/EAR for a free month trial and start meditation today!Tommy John: Hurry to TommyJohn.com/EAR now and get 20% off your first order! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Rhett. And I'm Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we are tackling the question, what is our relationship with gross foods? Oh, we have a relationship with gross foods? We have a.
Starting point is 00:00:26 That's news to me. I don't know if you know, but we also have an audio visual program that comes out five days a week called Good Mythical Morning. Oh man, we've done, I've kind of traced our relationship with food through the episodes of the show. Like Shabazz? What? we've kind of traced our relationship with food through the episodes of the show. Like Shabazz?
Starting point is 00:00:46 What? Oh, not like Shabazz, but you should tell people what you mean by that. Whenever I hear the word trace, this is just absolutely ingrained in my brain. I know what you're talking about. Shabazz moved to Buies Creek, what grade? Probably sixth, seventh grade.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Maybe, well definitely eighth grade he was there because at the eighth grade parties, the eighth grade party at Adam Nicholson's house. I was gonna say fifth but okay. Oh yeah he could've been there earlier but I know he was in our friend group in eighth grade because he would come to the parties. But Shabazz, all of a sudden, like you know,
Starting point is 00:01:27 when you're that age, it's like the ability to draw is like a social, you got points, everybody knows the kids who can draw. You know what I'm saying, it's like being able to draw, it's like oh yeah, Mark, he's a really good drawer. In grade school, there's an expectation that everyone should draw and then sadly. But some people are actually good at it.
Starting point is 00:01:46 That's weaned out of people but then by the time you get to later middle school, which I think is where this story takes place or this memory, there's just a few people who continue to draw like Kevin Wins, he continued to draw. Right, I think he continues to draw. Yeah, because he's good at drawing. But anyway, Shabazz was breaking out
Starting point is 00:02:06 these incredible renditions of like Warner Brothers characters and comic book characters and bringing them to school and we were like, who, what, this guy, this new guy is incredible. Yeah. And I don't know who discovered it, but Shabazz was tracing. It got out.
Starting point is 00:02:26 The secret got out. It got out that he was tracing. It's basically plagiarism. It's visual plagiarism. This had much more of an impact on you than me. I think he was in, he must have been in your class, not mine. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:02:38 It's just, I think I, because. When you hear the word trace. I was so intimidated by, I'm intimidated by people who are better at things than me and I'm like, well I can draw too. And so I was just mad at him. You know like when Shay Mitchell was so great at tasting. I think, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Very similar. Yeah, that came out of me. And anger that was then validated when I found out that she was tracing, so to speak. She was giving the freaking answers. But yeah, that's why when I hear tracing, I think it's Shabazz. I will always.
Starting point is 00:03:10 When you hear the word tracing. The word tracing. That was quite an aside. When I hear the word Tracy, I think of Tracy. Yeah, me too. Who we went to high school with. And she had an older boyfriend who was a real cowboy. Shane?
Starting point is 00:03:26 No, he had like a crew cut and he was. Blond hair. He was a real cowboy. Yeah, yeah, he had like a. He had boots and he used them. Right, like a belt buckle, tucked his shirt in. Yeah. What was his name?
Starting point is 00:03:40 She was in my typing class and I kinda flirted with her but I wasn't her type because I didn't. Was that a joke? No it wasn't. I didn't even know I said it. Are you intimidated by how well I can throw puns out there without even knowing? Yeah. Does that make you angry?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah, makes me feel like you're tracing. You're tracing your comedy. So I've traced how we got to the point in Good Mythical Morning where we consume so much food. We do, I have to believe we have a different relationship with food because of the way we eat so much gross stuff and just food in general. Without a doubt.
Starting point is 00:04:22 So I'll come back to that. There was some fascinating things in that timeline that surprised me at least when I shabazzed it. So I'll come back to that. There was some fascinating things in that timeline that surprised me at least when I shabazzed it. So we can come back to that. I like that, that's a good use of it. Also I have some interesting tidbits about what makes things that are typically not tasty something that you might acquire a taste for.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Like the psychology behind what I'll call acquiring a taste for something. Especially when it comes to hot peppers and gross things and it extends beyond just foods as well. So I'm prepared if it comes to it to also talk about that because in my mind that's what led up to, that was the starting point for this conversation and also Alex asking us, how has our relationship with food changed
Starting point is 00:05:11 because of the show? I was like that's a good question, we'll talk about that. Okay, but first we wanna just catch up on the fact that we are both about to head out of town. Yeah. Obviously we're gonna be in, at the time of recording this, we'll be in London next week for VidCon,
Starting point is 00:05:32 doing our VidCon appearance and also our show, our concert. But we wouldn't, that was weird how you said it. At the time of recording this, we will not be in London. We're here. We're recording it right now. I corrected myself. At the time of recording, we will be in London next week. Okay. That's how I completed
Starting point is 00:05:47 my sentence. As of right now when we're speaking, once we're done recording this podcast, we're both leaving on independent vacations and then right on the backside of that, we're going to London. By the time you listen to this, we'll be back from all of that and then you can expect, I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:01 If it's worthy of a podcast. We'll probably give each other and you an update on our vacations but I expect, I guess, if it's worthy of a podcast, we'll probably give each other and you an update on our vacations but I mean, I'm in like, have I forgotten something important like a passport or are my underwears clean type of thing? And what are the main things that I need? It's a short trip though, short trip. I'm just taking a long weekend to Mexico.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I'm going to Cabo because you've already been and I thought that was a good idea. Are you? I'm not taking my kids. Do you need the watermelon outfit? Well I still have it. Because I don't need it where I'm going. I should take it to Cabo.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I was thinking about when I took that for Instagram, Christy was like you should wait till we go to Cabo. I was like I gotta come back that for Instagram, Christy was like, you should wait till we go to Cabo. I was like, I gotta come back now. I gotta do it here and like, it was raining. It was kind of like a polar opposite type situation. Which interestingly is kind of what's happening with our mini vacations here because the place that I'm going, I looked at the weather last night
Starting point is 00:07:00 and it was currently one degree Fahrenheit. One degree Fahrenheit. One degree Fahrenheit. What, okay. That's 31 below zero Fahrenheit. It's Mammoth. Well, it's not, again, it's not 31 degrees below zero. 31 below freezing. Freezing.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Fahrenheit. Yeah, I'm going up to Mammoth. Interestingly. Have you been there? Yeah, I went last year. So it's a ski mountain, I've never been to Mammoth. Interestingly. Have you been there? Yeah I went last year. So it's a ski mountain, I've never been. This is your second time. I think it's the largest ski resort in California.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It's definitely the highest elevation so it gets the most snow. And they just got 10 feet over the past weekend. 10 feet, that's a basketball goal. That's crazy. That is nuts, man. It was a blizzard, it was nuts. Are you gonna be able to get there?
Starting point is 00:07:52 I mean, you're leaving basically hours from now. First thing in the morning. Well, I mean, everything is hours from now. It's just a matter of how many. Well, aren't you philosophical? All things in the future are hours from now. Listen, if you keep talking that smack, I'm not gonna let you borrow my rooftop cargo carrier.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I'm not taking it, I don't need it. Oh, so that's why. No, well, because Locke sprained his ankle, he's not skiing, Jessie had already made a decision that she was not going to ski and that she was just gonna chill and read. Okay. And so that leaves me and Shep.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And so the only reason I need the rooftop carrier is to get the skis back and forth from where we rented them because we're staying at a place where we can just walk out and then like walk to the lift. So. Well isn't that special. I believe that the. That's fine, hey, if you don't want my carrier,
Starting point is 00:08:44 you don't have to have it. I mean I'll take it. It's not like. I'll take it if you want me to. It's not like I didn't get the best carrier based on Amazon reviews in existence. I'm worried about the. Largest capacity.
Starting point is 00:08:53 The gas mileage. Hey, you know what. I'm worried about the gas mileage. It's not like it's the most aerodynamic rooftop carrier that exists. Well you haven't driven, so halfway. You don't have to borrow it, I'll just keep it at home. No, halfway to Mammoth.
Starting point is 00:09:06 My feelings aren't hurt. When you get to the southern end of the Sierra Nevadas, the wind is ridiculous. Like I'm afraid that the rooftop carrier, I just end up on the side of the road, sideways. Right off the side. But the main reason, I just don't need it because Shepherd's got short skis, I got long skis,
Starting point is 00:09:22 it'll be in there for half a month. I'm not taking it personally. But I'm gonna be freezing. You're gonna be living it up. Oh yeah. I'm gonna be freezing. Yeah, no sprained ankles. But I am. No children at all. I am excited about skiing,
Starting point is 00:09:36 and hopefully I'll have some kind of story, not too harrowing, because one of the things I read was, there's something that, on the Mammoth website they were like, you know, beware of something, something, something, basically falling into deep snow and suffocating. Oh wow. There's a term for that. 10 feet of snow.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And so, because you know how it is, the one time we went with Eric. Yeah. To, I guess it was. Park City. Park City, and it was snow, it was like a blizzard while we were on the mountain. If you go off the groomed or the paths,
Starting point is 00:10:11 he was trying to take us through little shortcuts. But if you really don't know how to ski well. That's crazy. You just fall under the powder. And then you cannot get out. There's an art to staying on top of the powder. I like the groomed man. It's like Legolas.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I'm a blue man. You gotta be like Legolas in Lord of the Rings, man. I'm like blue man group on the slopes. I see the blue and I go for it. I stay away from the black diamonds. I don't like the slopes. I like the gentle paths through the trees. You like percussion on like found items. Yep, yep, yep. That's really what you're talking about. I like percussion on found items.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yep, yep, yep. That's really what you're talking about. I have a show in Vegas. It's just me going through the trees. I thought about taking Jade with Christy and I on our pre-Valentine's romantic weekend in Cabo before I head away to actually be apart from my wife and the love of my life when Valentine proper hits.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I'll be entertaining Mythical Beast in London. Which by the way, if you wanna come see us, go to Rhettandlinklive.com to see where we're gonna show up but a place near you. Around the US we have some other dates posted and we're doing music. We're doing a Bonafide concert. There is costuming involved at a certain point.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Right and we continue to announce dates for as those things fall into place and I'll just go ahead and do some more plugging while we're at it. If you're a member of the Mythical Society, you actually are the first to find out about where we're playing so you can get those tickets, get the good seats,
Starting point is 00:11:46 get the VIP ticks, that kind of thing. That goes to the Mythical Society first. So I'm trying to figure out if I should take Jade as a last minute decision just because the answer's no. I just mentioned it to Christy. I wasn't like I wanna bring Jade. This is about me and you and I do understand that. So I didn't say any of that.
Starting point is 00:12:04 All I said was, well you know the hotel allows dogs. I just left it at that. She was like, I know but we don't need to bring Jay because this is about us and I was like, exactly. Yeah right, I'm just letting you know, it's just a fact. I mean, to me. I'm letting you know other people's dogs will be there. Just in case you wanna bring your dog repellent.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I just think it's a fun idea to fly with a dog, to bring a dog to another hotel. Why is that a fun idea? I mean you have an unusually. You see what she does. You have an unusually easy dog. She could be here right now and you wouldn't know it. But even though she's so easy.
Starting point is 00:12:38 She's like a fanny pack without the strap. But she's still a little. She just sits there on my body. But she's still a burden because she just sits there on my body. But she's still a burden because she wants your attention. Yeah, that's true. It's, again, I don't wanna do it. I want it just to be me and Christy.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Where you have the dog at the pool with you? That would be kinda cool. No, man. Being that guy, be like Dr. Evil or something, having my cat with me at all times. Well, yeah, okay, she is cool. I haven't seen those movies, but I think that's what happens in them.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I think you're talking about Inspector Gadget's arch nemesis. Maybe Dr. Evil has a cat, I can't remember. I'm bad at remembering details. I haven't seen it, but I think he has a cat. So anyway, so far, we're gonna move on to everything we've already talked about, but just in summary, we've devoted this podcast
Starting point is 00:13:24 that you're listening to to what might happen in other podcasts that we'll tell you about. That's interesting. That's what we've done so far. Wow. We've basically teased other episodes that we don't even know will exist. It's like this is what's gonna happen in our lives. If there's something to report,
Starting point is 00:13:42 best believe this is the venue that it will be reported. That's tantalizing. As well as, I probably will have posted lots of stuff on my Instagram, shout out to me on Instagram, Link Lamont. Oh you can do that now, that's good. I'm really gaining momentum over there. Yeah you're on quite a pace.
Starting point is 00:14:00 But you know what, I'm just dancing like no one's watching. So let's get to that food stuff in a minute. But first we wanna let you know that Ear Biscuits is supported by Headspace. Headspace is your guide to health and happiness. It'll teach you the life-changing skills of meditation and mindfulness
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Starting point is 00:17:35 Now back to the biscuit. Okay, I'm interested to talk about, because I'm emotional. Speaking of food, I've got some almonds that are still in my throat. In the back? Some salt and vinegar, which interestingly enough, the reason I like the salt and vinegar
Starting point is 00:17:52 is because they bite you a little bit. They give you a little bit of a bite. You know that you're eating them. Yeah, there is a mouth punch. But this has come up. That possibly a child, if they were to eat one, would be repulsed. They would not like it.
Starting point is 00:18:08 A child does not typically like salt and vinegar unless they have acquired that taste. This is what I'm gonna get into. You want me to start there or where do you wanna start? That's fine, well, I was going to say that this is a question that I feel like I get, I'm sure you get it as well, from just anytime I'm eating with someone
Starting point is 00:18:30 who is a friend or at least knows that enough about our show to know that we eat weird stuff on our show, I feel like there's this expectation that, well, yeah, sure order that because Rhett's here because he's known for eating anything. Has that happened to you? While I'm eating with people at restaurants, there are conversations about my, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:00 gastro exploits, that's one word. I think it's very clear that I don't like a lot of the things that I consume on the show so I don't run into things like, oh, we can order that because Link will like it. We can't order that because Link's here. That's a different thing. I'm trying to, there was,
Starting point is 00:19:20 somebody was having a conversation and it was like some weird combination of foods, they're like, oh we could try, that's something to try. You know what, wouldn't it be fun to try that? And then they realized they were talking to me and they were like, oh I'm, sorry, that's kind of your job. And I, maybe it was Britton at the house, like we were just hanging out.
Starting point is 00:19:43 He like caught himself. I can't remember who it was, honestly. I just, I erased it from my memory because it was, I wasn't in work mode. But yeah, I do think there's this, oh yeah, even with friends and whenever any of that like weird food stuff comes up, the conversation takes a different complexion
Starting point is 00:20:03 because I feel like that somehow we found ourselves in a position of being the guys who eat stuff on the internet. That is a facet, that is a facet. That is not me as a whole person. So let's come back to that but let's start more with like the psychology and the science and this other podcast that I was looking for new podcasts
Starting point is 00:20:23 like browsing, seeing what I could listen to. You'd listened to all of our Ear Biscuits back so many times that you just couldn't take it anymore. You had to get something else. I found a podcast called Hidden Brain, it's an NPR podcast. I'll try to remember to tweet out a link to it, but you can search anywhere podcasts are found,
Starting point is 00:20:43 not a sponsor, it's just, it's explorations in what happens in the brain and how that impacts our daily lives. I've only listened to one episode and it's an episode called Radio Replay, I guess that means that it was on NPR and then they put it on the podcast again at a later date. Yum and Yuck. Yum and Yuck is the actual name of the episode
Starting point is 00:21:11 and I highly recommend listening to it. It's very entertaining but you know, I was like, hmm, they're gonna talk about eating nasty stuff. I wanna see what their take on this is and there's some psychological studies and then this guy, the guest they had on there has done studies and one in particular is about how, well he was talking about people eating hot peppers
Starting point is 00:21:38 and he went to a particular town in Mexico, I believe I'm remembering this correctly, and he was kind of exploring the subject there where in this particular place, they treat hot chili peppers like I treat salt and pepper, mostly pepper, like I will douse something in pepper. I just like it. I like the black specks.
Starting point is 00:22:01 It like adds a pop of contrast and then it adds a pop of not spiciness but a different type of pepper in my mouth. But chili pepper is a totally different thing. I mean there is pain associated with eating chili pepper and everybody eats them in mass quantities. It's like it's not a choice, it's just understood and thoroughly enjoyed by everyone once you reach the age of five years old, okay?
Starting point is 00:22:28 Sometimes as early as two, so like two to five years old, they start to like chili peppers. Now before that, you can't give a baby or an unacclimated four-year-old a chili pepper and they're gonna like it. Right. That's just not gonna happen. But from across the board, as a true statement,
Starting point is 00:22:47 by five years old, they're all eating the chili peppers. He was trying to figure out why. And he started looking at the. Now, just to clarify. Yeah. This isn't, I would assume that this is much of Mexico that this applies to, but he's just studying this town. Well he happened to be in this one town
Starting point is 00:23:09 and that's what I was getting at. What he did was, there's dogs and pigs around that are eating the food that's thrown out which is laced in chili peppers. So his question was have they acquired a taste and an enjoyment of chili peppers as well? So like he put out a cracker with some hot sauce on it and then a cracker without it to see which one
Starting point is 00:23:34 random dogs and pigs would prefer. And what's your guess? My guess is that they did not prefer the spicy. Correct, they did not prefer the spicy. Now they ended up eating both of them because they're animals and they're hungry and they're gonna eat both. Right, they didn't eat anything.
Starting point is 00:23:57 But they preferred the ones that weren't spicy. They just tolerate it. Whereas humans do something different. Once they get to that age of five years old or so, they're actually starting to prefer it. Now, the first reason was described as societal and social pressure. I mean, you're all gathered around for a meal
Starting point is 00:24:21 and all the older people, older siblings, they're all eating the chili peppers and even though it's a painful tear jerking experience. And that's not something that would apply to dogs. It's something that these. Peer pressure is not a thing in the canine world. I mean probably in some way it is but not with eating hot stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Right so you know it's not actually an acquired taste. Like the more you eat, then you start to prefer it. But in humans, they start to prefer it. If given the option of putting the chili peppers on it, they will do that. They won't go, so to speak, to the cracker that doesn't have it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:01 So what's the difference there, what's happening? So the societal pressure to overcome the initial pain kind of breaks the seal and you start eating the chili peppers but then the dogs and the pigs inform us to say well even once you eat it, it's still not an acquired taste. There's something else going on. Well okay so let me at this point before you get into the what else going on. Well okay, so let me at this point,
Starting point is 00:25:25 before you get into the what is going on, I'm gonna give you just my layman's, I'm not trying to guess where the science is going, I'm just gonna say, as someone who likes hot stuff, or liked hot stuff, okay, because something changed with me, and also someone who has a son, who, Locke was eating hot wings as early as I can remember
Starting point is 00:25:48 like when he could have, and it was not me telling him, son you should eat this, cause Shepard doesn't like, Shepard still doesn't like hot stuff. Shepard, less than two years ago, still described toothpaste as spicy. So this is a different palette. Yeah, Lando calls La Croix spicy water. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Just because it's fizzy. But Locke enjoyed hot wings and would get like, even when, you know, he's 14 now and back when we were living in Sherman Oaks and he was like seven, eight, nine, so even younger than Shepard, we would go and get hot wings. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:26:25 We used to get, we used to get Zaxby's back in North Carolina. Yeah. You know, so anyway. Which had different levels of hot and he would get something on the hotter side. Very, very hot and then of course, once it got to be like 10 or 11,
Starting point is 00:26:39 he would go all the way to where I would went which I think is like nuclear or something like that at Zaxby's. I stopped eating that stuff because over the past couple years something has happened where it affects my stomach way too much. Like I don't care about burning mouth, I love the feel and the taste,
Starting point is 00:26:57 but the way it's affecting my insides is cause in my skin I have like breakouts and stuff. Anyway, too much detail. Too much detail, Rhett. But. You're veering off. To me, I always just thought, A, I would have said that it had more flavor, right?
Starting point is 00:27:15 So I would have said that the spicy has more flavor, which I believe is a indisputable fact when it comes to a hot wing. Like when you get like mild at a place, it just tastes like butter, you know what I'm saying? Like if you get like mild buffalo. Butter is a flavor. I mean I'm just gonna say it's a different,
Starting point is 00:27:32 it is a different experience. Right. But I wouldn't, I mean, I just wouldn't say that it doesn't have flavor, it just has. It doesn't have as much flavor of the type of flavor that I'm going for. But then it does get into this place that like, there's an experience of eating,
Starting point is 00:27:50 eating the hot wings is like something, it's memorable, it's super active, if you're doing it with somebody, you're talking about it, it's just, it makes much more out of the meal. So, you end up just thinking, I like hot stuff. It adds a fun element. Right, it's fun to eat hot stuff. And that may be baked into the answer
Starting point is 00:28:14 that I learned from The Hidden Brain, which they then began to describe something that, a phrase coined as benign masochism, which is enjoying initially negative experiences that the body slash brain falsely interprets as threatening. So it's something, it's experiencing pain from something that is not actually going to inflict real damage. It's something that's thrilling
Starting point is 00:28:49 but not actually threatening. So that experience of knowing that it hurts but that you're totally gonna be fine fuels the brain and creates an experience that you want to continue to have. Well it's like if you're in an accident and then you walk away from it, there's a thrill. That's like an extreme example of that.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Well a better example is a roller coaster. We talked about roller coasters before. We didn't use that term, benign masochism, but that's why I said, that's why, when I don't get sick on a roller coaster, the reason I love it is because I feel like I'm simulating near death without being anywhere close to it. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Also for things like coffee. It's like the initial taste of coffee is very bitter. It's not something you would like. And again, I've always thought about an acquired taste. That's an interesting extrapolation though. So the guy is saying that. On a brain, on an inner brain, psychological level, that's something that's happening.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Now he didn't actually talk about acquired tastes because that would have been my explanation. That's like the more you eat, the more you like it, but again, the pigs and the dogs don't. There's something else going on. So we got into this a little bit when we talked about pickiness, right? So, and which is, I find this interesting
Starting point is 00:30:16 because you can rattle off a lot of things that are traditionally thought of as not good. Blue cheese, right? Blue cheese is a prime example of something that is very polarizing. I don't like it. And it tastes like rotten cheese because essentially that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And I absolutely love it, right? It's just this bite and I love it. But when it comes to roller coasters, we're both just as willing to ride a roller coaster. It's not like you're afraid to ride roller coasters. But you don't like blue cheese, you don't, when it comes to like roller coasters, we're both just as willing to ride a roller coaster. It's not like you're afraid to ride roller coasters. But you don't like blue cheese, you don't like olives, spicy mustard or whatever, super hot stuff. I think something, I think the,
Starting point is 00:30:55 I don't think olives is really a, in pickiness, it kinda goes a little too broad because I think you're like. Licorice. I think you. Licorice like, you know what I'm saying? I don't experience pain associated with licorice but I also don't experience pain associated
Starting point is 00:31:12 with the bitterness of coffee which they did talk about. So I guess, okay, yeah, licorice. It's something that you're on a deeply instinctual level. It's like oh my gosh, this shouldn't go into my mouth because it's going to, you're on a deeply instinctual level, it's like oh my gosh, this shouldn't go into my mouth because it's going to, your brain's saying from an evolutionary standpoint, it's gonna contaminate you. Because it's bitter like poison.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Because the thing is, just as somebody who enjoys. But once you know it's not. But as somebody who enjoys licorice, black licorice, and the saltiest, I have some of that samayaki in my office, probably still saying that wrong. It's not like when I eat it, I'm tasting strawberries. You know, it's not like when I'm eating it, like I'm tasting something that's like sweet and good.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm tasting something that tastes like I'm biting into a root that I pulled out of the ground. Like the bitterness, for me, this is why I think it's all in the brain. You're relating to this. Because I think that when I taste licorice, I'm essentially tasting the, now everybody's taste buds are different.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I understand that, there's different amounts and different sensitivities and they're super tasters, et cetera, but I don't think that what's, it's just like like people are like, how do you know that I see green and you see what you're green and the lyric from the thoughtful guy, why do you know that we see colors in the same way?
Starting point is 00:32:33 Well because we have no reason to believe that we see colors differently because the same DNA structure, the same genes that contribute to your visual apparatus are the same kind of genes that contribute to mine. So red is red, right? So you're saying most people taste licorice, they taste the same thing.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I think you taste licorice the same as me, but your brain has a different perspective on it. And it must be this masochism thing. So I mean, benign masochism is not a rational thing. I think it's a subconscious thing that's happening. Clearly, yeah. But can you start to pull from that subconscious
Starting point is 00:33:09 when you're eating the licorice? Can you filter that experience through, I don't know, dying? No, but I think I can pull it into smelling a fart. Okay. You know, sometimes you fart and you smell it and you're like, that's horrible, but you're like, I gotta keep smelling that. Just take it in.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Yeah, I think that. Feel like you. You know who you are, you know who's done that. And not somebody else's fart. I've never savored someone else's fart. Let me just be very clear about that. You savor your own. And not all mine, just sometimes.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I feel like maybe you're learning something. Maybe your subconscious is learning something. You know, I think Jade smells, she smells her own poop. Well dogs have this. And I think she is learning, she's definitely learning something. Dogs like to roll in trash. About her own health.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Dogs like to eat trash. That's different, that's more of like a camouflaging thing but smelling your own poop, not eating it but smelling it, some dogs eat it, they talk about that in the podcast too. I think she's learning something about her own health. It's kinda like sending your fecal sample off to like some sort of doctor. Which incidentally, I think I've shared this,
Starting point is 00:34:25 I have the fecal sample kit at my home, ready to be filled up. Oh well let me not help you with that. I will be telling you all about it. Why? When I do it. Why? Because I went to a new doctor and I said I want the full rundown, I want everything,
Starting point is 00:34:39 I want blood work, he's like you want a fecal sample thing? What? Okay. I was like well of course, if that's an option. That sounds fun, what? Of course I want that. You just want it to be thorough because you're a hypochondriac. I want to know, I want a full evaluation.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And I kind of like the idea of being in my bathroom and putting my poop into something and shipping it to somebody. He's, go to this doctor, he's very thorough. He's very thorough. I asked him, I was like, can I go outside to do this? No, I'm gonna be in the front yard. What?
Starting point is 00:35:11 Because man, you know as well as anybody that open air human feces is one of the worst things in the world. It's worse than bear. Worse than bear. So I think the question is are we benign masochists? Are you buying it as far as, I don't think I am in normal life.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I've acquired the taste of coffee, I acquired, and I'm still gonna use that phrase, acquired the taste in college. It was very late for me. And me as well. I tasted it when, my mom let me drink her coffee. I have like a vivid memory of tasting her coffee when we lived in Thousand Oaks.
Starting point is 00:35:51 So I would have been, that was before I met you, so I would have been like five, four or five, and being like whoa. And it's like the first time your parents let you have a little swig of wine, you know? Or when we, I mean, and we've, you know, we're not proponents of this, but we've told the story of like trying chewing tobacco, which is easily.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Oh, that's a prime example. One of the worst things that you can try to put in your mouth, and the fact that people do it habitually, I mean, well, it's addictive because there's nicotine. But you like that too. I mean that. I did not like it. You liked it and hated it at the same time.
Starting point is 00:36:28 But the reason why was because it was. Social pressure? It was illegal, it was stupid, and it was wrong. It was forbidden. Yeah, but you have to admit to me. So I think that's a form of benign masochism. When you were sitting out on one of those rocks in the middle of the Cape Fear River
Starting point is 00:36:46 and it was super hot and we were sitting there spitting into the water. It makes you a little delirious and that feels weird and like whoa, this is a different experience. We're not proponents of that, you shouldn't do it. It's a horrible, horrible idea. Do not do it. Horrible idea.
Starting point is 00:37:01 My stomach turns just thinking about it right now but I think it's a different form of benign masochism that's like I'm motivated by another factor which is I know this isn't gonna, well, long term it will kill you but short term, it's not going to kill me right now and it, but it feels illicit. Well, so I relate to this.
Starting point is 00:37:22 It's a roller coaster thing. But I do not, when I think about the things that we've done on the show, it is, this is not the same thing for me. But I think maybe because we go so far into the extreme, like if you take like surströmming as an example, you know, the fermented Swedish whatever it is, some kind of fish.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah. Absolutely horrible, the kind of fish. Yeah. Absolutely horrible. The kind of thing that when we open it in the studio, everyone has to evacuate. You don't even have to eat it, you just have to get close to it. We didn't even attempt to taste it. But if we opened it now, I bet you we would. And I think that's what I wanna get at.
Starting point is 00:38:01 But I wouldn't enjoy it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it because the spirit of our show is to try things. But I'm not trying it thinking, you know what? I might like this, even though that's kind of the unspoken premise or sometimes the spoken premise of our show is will it whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Is like, was this gonna be unexpectedly good? But I don't go into those situations thinking of it the way that I think about, like sushi as an example, we didn't grow up eating sushi, a lot of people our age didn't grow up eating sushi but especially where we're from. So the first time I ever had sushi, it was weird, the wasabi was a completely new taste, the eating ginger, all that was completely new and exotic
Starting point is 00:38:44 and I didn't really like it the first time and then kinda liked it the second time and then third, fourth time I was in and now I can actually find myself craving it, right? But. And I think that. I just don't see what we do. I don't know if that's benign masochism.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I do think that there is acquiring a taste for something through another means that isn't the pleasure of feeling like you're going to harm yourself but you're not. I think there are other routes to changing your mind over time about something. But I would like to look back, I kinda, like I said, I traced Good Mythical Morning in terms of
Starting point is 00:39:26 how did we get to a point where we started eating so much food? And we start, you know, it's interesting that it hasn't, what you've said is that there's not a component of it that we actually enjoy it. We don't actually enjoy in the moment eating the stuff that we're gagging, that's why we gag it out. But I mean.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I enjoy every other aspect of it. I enjoy every other aspect of it. So don't feel sorry for us. Don't feel sorry. Don't make comments where you say things like, if you guys don't enjoy it, don't do it. We enjoy. Most people do enjoy watching us not enjoy it, so.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And we enjoy. We us not enjoy it. So. And we enjoy. We gonna keep doing it. We enjoy our audience enjoying that we're not enjoying it and that makes us enjoy it. And when I watch those montages of us trying to get things down and not being able to, I mean it is, you've seen the way that I react in the moment when you can't get something done.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I mean it brings me joy. You've seen the way that I react in the moment when you can't get something down. I mean, it brings me joy. I mean, there is pure joy in watching your best friend not be able to get food down. I mean, that's great. There's a lot of joy in that. I was surprised at how we got to this point.
Starting point is 00:40:40 So perhaps as a digression, I just wanted to take us down memory lane because I always tend to think of Will It as, we did an episode called Will It Taco, we did that episode on Cinco de Mayo of 2014. Okay. Almost five years ago. And I went back and I watched part of that, you know, hard shells and we just put stuff in it,
Starting point is 00:41:09 like broccoli and cheese. I made a comment on that episode before we ate pork blood, congealed pork blood and like little long cube logs of it. I said, this is why we're on the internet, this is our destiny. Like I said that. You're a prophet. Just really, really stupid, I shouldn't have said that.
Starting point is 00:41:31 But I tend to think that like that's the moment where this thing started to careen into crazy. That was season five, episode 82. So I went all the way back to the beginning, it's like when do we really start eating stuff? Season one, episode five, we 82. So I went all the way back to the beginning. It's like, when do we really start eating stuff? Season one, episode five, we did best candy bar ever. And then maybe a month or two later, we did best cereal ever.
Starting point is 00:41:53 We were trying different best evers and we were like doing toys and all types of stuff. It didn't catch. So even though very early on, we did eat some stuff in Rank It, which we came full circle on that. Right. We abandoned it.
Starting point is 00:42:07 That's all we did, those two things in season one. Season two, episode 76 was the next time I could find us eating something. They discontinued Twinkies and we said we acquired one and I had never eaten a Twinkie. So we said it. How old was that Twinkie? It was the last Twinkie on Earth.
Starting point is 00:42:24 It was a fresh Twinkie but the company was gonna go over. It was rescued and there's Twinkies still exist. Or go under even. Yeah. It's the only thing we ate in season two. Season three, episode 29, I was playing a game with you about like ways to extend your life and every time you got a question right,
Starting point is 00:42:42 I let you take a bite out of a quadruple Whopper. Oh man. Just because I thought that would be funny. We had the good ideas back then, didn't we? Well, we didn't know what was happening. I mean. I just wanted to eat a quadruple Whopper. And you loved it.
Starting point is 00:42:56 You were eating this, you would get a question right, you would just chomp on this quadruple Whopper and it was a great thumbnail too. Wow. Of course, that didn't really click into place. The only other thing we ate in season three, there's an episode called Rhett and Link Eat Insects. And I think that was, I didn't watch that one
Starting point is 00:43:17 but I think it's probably like fans sending us like crickets in a bag or something. I honestly didn't watch it. That's the only thing we ate in season three. Then we made the Mythical Show and then we came back in season four. No food on the Mythical Show. Not that I recall.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Interesting that we had not yet understood that there was anything. That definitely shows that we didn't understand the potential that there was in eating on camera. The fact that we created this show that we had such high hopes for and didn't eat a thing. Now, well, maybe we did. Now Will It Taco again was season five,
Starting point is 00:43:51 but I'm just starting season four. Everything that I could find in a cursory search that we ate, I'm sure there's a little bit more, but not a whole lot. We did a thing called the habanero pepper challenge. I think that's where we ate increasingly hot peppers getting up to the habanero pepper challenge. I think that's where we ate increasingly hot peppers getting up to the habanero. It's before hot ones existed.
Starting point is 00:44:10 We did that once. Then we did something called the noodle showdown in season four where we ranked different types of noodles like in a tournament style. Then we never did that again. It's so fascinating to me that like we did this, why would we wanna taste noodles? Well at that point we were really,
Starting point is 00:44:35 we were already trying to figure out what to do. We were out of ideas. We got that pill, the taste tripping pill. Yeah. Where it makes sweet things sour and sour things sweet because we were big on experiments. Like that's how we thought of our show. We're not really eating things, we only eat things
Starting point is 00:44:50 if it's part of an experiment or if we're inventing something because we did, we invented the Big Mac and cheese and like put an orange chicken on a sub. That seems more recent. No, season four. Season four? Then we ate the ghost pepper to follow up with the habanero challenge, we did a ghost pepper episode.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And then we did one called the strangest candy on earth. We just got international candies and we just tasted them and talked about them. That's all we, I mean, out of all those episodes in season four, those are all the ones that are food-based, that's it. That's all I could find. Season five, we started to get going a little bit.
Starting point is 00:45:27 We tasted fake bacon. And then a few episodes later, we did an exotic meat taste test. And then we started putting sriracha on stuff and eating it. We got some of that cat poof coffee and tried that. I said cat poof, but it was cat poop. Yeah, it made it sound better. We did a blind berry taste test with strawberry 17.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Again, this is an exhaustive list. This is not just highlights. This is the only food things we did. Then we did bug war which was me eating a scorpion. Oh wow, that got a lot of clicks. Season five, episode 57. That's like became our most viewed video of all time because it was the thumbnail of me holding up a scorpion
Starting point is 00:46:10 and I actually ate the whole freaking thing. Golly. But you see what got us to that point is, oh we ate some bugs the previous season, we ate some exotic meats, then we did a pizza taste test. We just did that out of nowhere. I mean, I'm sure Buzzfeed was doing their stuff too and there was a lot of feeling like we're getting
Starting point is 00:46:30 on each other's bandwagon or something. That was starting to happen. I don't know if we were, you think we were on the radar at that point, that season? Maybe, I don't know. Season five is when GMO started to take off, I think. We ate 40-year-old ham and eggs, and then we did Will It Taco.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Then after that, in season five, we only did two more food episodes I could find after Will It Taco. We did Flying Waffle, which was, unidentified Flying Waffle, we invented some, we tried to invent other dishes, like we did Big Mac and Cheese the last season. That didn't work, so we abandoned that.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And then we did the squeezable food taste test where we fired food at each other's faces. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was a lot of fun but that was just a weird one off because we were doing a bunch of experiment stuff and again, we didn't really think of it as a food thing. That's all we did. The next season, we did Will It Ice Cream Sandwich
Starting point is 00:47:23 because in our I'm on Vacation video, we played guys who worked in an ice cream sandwich factory. And so we came up with that idea in order to promote people watching our music video. And we were like, oh, we did Will It Taco many months earlier. So May of 2014, let's see, June, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:50 It was only a month later. No, we started, it was early, it was maybe in the beginning of season six. Yeah, so we followed that up and then all of a sudden we started to do some stuff. But again, I can quickly tell you everything we did in season six, it was food. Smell tasting, Will It Double Awesome, Deep, that wasn't food actually.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Will It Deep Fry, and then we did the Carolina Reaper. Did you know that has 25 million views? Yeah, that's because a bunch of people keep watching it. Keep crazy, man. September of 2014. Even now. Guess That Exotic Sausage, we did that four episodes later. Then we opened the Surstromming with PewDiePie and A Good Mythical More.
Starting point is 00:48:26 We did Will It cereal, started doing a bunch of other Will It's. Three episodes later we did Blind Fast Food Burger Challenge. That's when we started getting into that blindfolded identifying stuff. And we started, you see the slippery slope of us starting to eat more exotic or weird foods.
Starting point is 00:48:45 It was interesting to my mind that like, Will It Taco did not click in our minds that we were immediately gonna start doing Will It's. Like we do one every month now, but that took a long time to get going because the third one we did was Will It Double Awesome. Because we started doing experiments about like giving yourself hiccups
Starting point is 00:49:01 so we would like start to drink a whole bunch of hot sauce. We just started to become much more willing to put things down our throats in order to experiment and find stuff out. Well, and. Maybe that's not the best way to put it. Okay, so what we were doing, just to put it bluntly, is we were,
Starting point is 00:49:29 without even really knowing it or acknowledging it at the time, we were doing, it was kind of our personal version of what has happened with the media, with online media in general. So. We became these daredevils and we didn't even know it was happening. Well specifically what I'm saying is that, okay so now the news, the way that the news works
Starting point is 00:49:55 is it's based on advertising, right? So I mean I'm not saying anything that you don't already know but basically a lot of people are sort of saying that journalism is ultimately dead if something doesn't change because ads are what is fueling the journalism industry and so what do you need? You need eyeballs. Truth is not important, eyeballs are important.
Starting point is 00:50:20 So therefore you're going to title your article in a way that gets people to click. And you're probably gonna be willing to do something that's misleading, right? Now we weren't doing, we were always concerned about making sure that when you clicked on something, it wasn't misleading, so it's not the same. So we had to actually put it in our mouths.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Right, well the news. We can't dangle a scorpion and then not eat it. The news industry has been completely transformed because they want people to click. Our lives, because we were the ones personally putting ourselves into this situation. Our GI tract has been transformed. In fact, we were talking the other day about
Starting point is 00:50:57 what is this, and this is why I'm getting my poop analyzed. And you should too. I should too. I'm getting my microbiome analyzed because I wanna know what's in it, man. And I think it's going to be drastically different than it would have been before all this stuff happened because of the stuff that we put in our bodies.
Starting point is 00:51:16 But that's what we're doing. We were responding to a trend and when we would go back and we would look at a season and we would decide, well what are we gonna do again? It was like, well, one of the factors was, well these things got views. People seem to care about this, so we gotta keep doing those things. And we're good at it.
Starting point is 00:51:32 We instinctively know how to contextualize experimental or weird or gross foods. And also, and then on the backside of that, somehow we became like every man who can say, if I eat a burger blindfolded, can I tell you what it is or not? You know, just because it's just interesting to people and we're like okay, but I just wonder if like Johnny
Starting point is 00:52:03 Knoxville or like the Jackass crew, like do they have, is there actual masochism going on with them or are they in a, like if we were to talk to them would they be in a similar place? I've listened to a few Johnny Knoxville interviews. I think I like the guy. I'd like to meet him, I'd like to ask him but I don't remember gleaning that knowledge.
Starting point is 00:52:22 If, I just get a sense that like, are they just doing it for their version of clicks or adulation or you know, entertainment value? Do they actually enjoy it? Of course there's such a thing as a masochist. I think that it, well first of all, they're in a completely different league. Well yes.
Starting point is 00:52:43 With what they're willing to do to themselves. Absolutely. In fact, With what they're willing to do to themselves. Absolutely. In fact, the links that they go to are things that the average Good Mythical Morning viewer would probably be uncomfortable with and there's probably not an incredible crossover between the two audiences. Even though we put ourselves under duress all the time.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Well the Coyote, I said. Nearly. And I think I've said before that like, I cannot watch Coyote Peterson get stung or bit or gnawed. And I think I've said before that I cannot watch Coyote Peterson get stung or bit or gnawed upon. And I think that that's. I could not watch it. But have you watched Jackass?
Starting point is 00:53:13 Not much, no. Does the same thing apply? Like seeing somebody get hit in the nuts or, I mean seeing somebody get attacked by a lion while in a zebra costume, I mean they do, that's the kind of thing that they do. I mean I also don't watch other people, I've only watched other people eat hot peppers
Starting point is 00:53:33 because they wanted to watch them. Of course I don't really watch a lot of stuff. But I don't watch people eat gross things either. Like the thing that we've arrived at when it comes to eating gross foods, the only point of reference that I personally have are the few episodes of Fear Factor that happened to be on television way back in the day
Starting point is 00:53:51 where they would force them to eat nasty stuff as like a physical challenge. Well that's really the first, yeah, I think from, in terms of US culture, that's sort of our first exposure to that whole phenomenon. It's interesting that it's something that we just had these couple of weird ideas and only because they worked, it evolved into this thing.
Starting point is 00:54:09 We weren't emulating anybody and we weren't entertained by anybody else doing anything comparable. Yet we found ourselves in this position and now you're wondering has it impacted your inner biome? How else do you think it's impacted us? Because I also don't eat, it's changed the way that I eat in general because I feel like, well, when we make the show,
Starting point is 00:54:33 I eat basically whatever I want. And you know me, like, if we're doing a pizza taste test or whatever, I'm like a cow, man. I just. I look over there. I'll just eat the whole piece without thinking about it. I have a handful of whatever it is we're eating. I look over at you and it's gone. I'm like, did you throw it away?
Starting point is 00:54:50 And it's not a conscious thing. I'm just, I'm a big man. I'm a big man, I'm a hungry man. I run hungry. There's such a thing as running hungry. Like your idol? My level of hunger is, even though you're the one who's always like, when is lunch?
Starting point is 00:55:07 I'm actually the one who's hungry. I just, I'm always hungry. And so I just eat, but I thought, I'm putting these things in my body when we make the show, so I probably shouldn't put these things in my body when we're not making the show. So I try not to eat fried stuff. I try to limit my meat intake a lot.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I remember talking to Harley, I mean, and he was talking about how he eats healthily when he's not doing Epic Meal Time. Like at the height of Epic Meal Time, we had this discussion and he was like. Yeah, you have to. We went out to dinner with him and he was like, I don't, yeah, I'm kinda gonna get a salad,
Starting point is 00:55:45 I'm kinda gonna eat like a, make a healthy choice because I do that because I'm a human. I'd go, because we went to that place next to VidCon in Anaheim that was like burgers and hot dogs or whatever and he was like, I'm gonna get a salad. Right. So it's definitely impacted the way that I see food.
Starting point is 00:56:04 But hot foods, I've been scarred. I absolutely have. There's no chance of me getting on that bandwagon because I've been runked. Like my brain has changed because of the experiences that we had with the Carolina Reaper and the Trinidad and Morugo Scorpion. So that ship has sailed.
Starting point is 00:56:29 That ain't happening again. Because what happens with you is like you can smell it or taste it and it makes you like sick or whatever. That doesn't happen to me. What happens to me is it was just so unpleasant, especially I'm the one who suffered the most from the Trinidad thing. I was out of commission last time.
Starting point is 00:56:44 You were on the show but then that night I was in just as bad a peril. We both threw up. But to me it's just. We both forced ourselves to throw up so that we wouldn't have to pass it the other direction. At this point. That was not an easy thing to do
Starting point is 00:57:00 because it was just as hot when you threw it up. It's not like when it got in your stomach, it started to lose its hotness. Well okay and so a lot of people have said, okay well now there's the Pepper X which is hotter than anything that we've eaten. Why don't you guys eat the Pepper X? Well interesting, there's a reason for that because.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I don't want to, that's my reason. Well I think it's actually, there's variables involved, right? There's what is the level of pain that we would go through and then what is the reward? And then how much does the reward impact where we're at? So at this point, thankfully, we don't need to have a video that gets 20 million views in order to be okay.
Starting point is 00:57:48 You know what I'm saying? We've gotten to a place where we have a product that people like and we don't have to do, we don't have to put ourselves through that much pain in order to get noticed and so it's just not worth it. And also, it wouldn't get that many views because people have seen people do all kinds of stuff now. It's not nearly as novel as it was.
Starting point is 00:58:07 But you know what, the pain that we would experience is the constant. In fact, it's probably actually increased because we've gotten older. So the amount of discomfort that we would go through is at an all time high and then the reward is at an all time low and that is why we are not going to ever eat the Pepper X.
Starting point is 00:58:23 You don't need to keep asking us to do it. We're not gonna do it. We don't have to. So we're not going to ever eat the Pepper X. You don't need to keep asking us to do it. We're not gonna do it, we don't have to. But. So we're not going to. Eating gross stuff, yes, and fist, you've never done this before. Let's do a fist bump. Yeah, okay. That's good, Rhett.
Starting point is 00:58:36 We'll put our. Glad you said bump after that. Put a steak in the ground. Yeah. We put a fist bump together. But when it comes to gross foods, I think I've learned, well, we've learned a couple things. Like my brain, I've developed some skills.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Like I'm really good with a blindfold. Like I can operate with a blindfold in lots of environments. You wear it all the time now. Put that in my like. Sleep with one. My one ad. Good with one. My want ad. Good with blindfold. Call me.
Starting point is 00:59:09 What do you want? Well I'm really, I think we're both really good at like tasting things that have no business having the flavor they have and guessing what it is. Like blindly guessing incongruous flavors on things because that's happened a lot over episodes. We've got a lot of experience with that.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Like just blindly guessing why something has a flavor that it shouldn't have. But then also just the skill to be able to participate in one of the most intimate acts that a human could participate in and that's consuming something. Wow, that's intimate, huh? I mean it's going inside you.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I mean it really is. I mean if you wanna get down to like what's happening, I think the reason why it's so compelling what we and the other people who eat weird stuff do is because like, I mean the most intimate thing you can do with something is put it in your mouth. I mean, it's one of the most intimate things. I mean, it might be the most intimate.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Yeah, so it's like, if that's gross and you're willing to consume it or try to consume it, that is a feat and we have gotten good at being able to do that. Like being able to, I mean, the amount of time that we would hem and haw before we would like actually put something in our mouths has drastically decreased. Like we're almost nonchalant about it now.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Like we forget. Well and also in. But we're good at it. And going back to the whole, the variable is, gross stuff, it's gross for a second. It doesn't, I mean, some stuff sticks with you a little bit. Even if you swallow it, it kinda disappears. Even in the worst case,
Starting point is 01:00:54 it's, you can get the taste out of your mouth. You can get a taste out of your mouth. Right. You can't necessarily get that burn out of your mouth in the same way or that burn out of your belly. So I think continuing to eat gross things, I think we've reached, I hope Josh isn't listening to this. Don't tell him about this.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I think we've reached like practically like the ceiling of how actually gross something can be. But we're not any, I don't know about that. I mean I don't feel like I'm any better. But we're not any, I don't know about that. I mean, I don't feel like I'm any better. For instance, I've said this repeatedly, the congealed blood, ironically, the first thing that we ate
Starting point is 01:01:34 that kind of started this whole train. This is the answer to the question, what is the worst thing you've ever eaten? I think it's gotta be the blood because, you know, the reason I don't like liver, that reason is multiplied by, you know, exponentially with the blood because it's got this metallic, like it just instantly coats my mouth and I have
Starting point is 01:02:03 this visceral reaction and it immediately makes me gag. I've seen you, like without pause or discussion, just bite into a heart like an apple. That wasn't a problem. Yeah, and that's still a problem for me. Like anything that is an intact thing, that's nasty. I have a real hard time with that. Like an eyeball or an entire organ,
Starting point is 01:02:32 like a kidney or a heart, those type of things. But I have gotten a lot better. I've grown as a performer. It's just a weird, it's just a weird type of performance. It's just, I mean, I'm so fascinated that we like careened, I don't know, it didn't happen that fast, that's not the right verb, but as I, how did it make you feel when I tracked through
Starting point is 01:02:58 the ideas that we had? Did it make you feel proud, is that what you're saying? I guess, I wanna feel proud. I don't know what you felt. You need to feel some more pride? No. No. I'm not surprised by it at all.
Starting point is 01:03:13 It's so weird, right? Yeah, but at the same time, I kind of feel like, and I think this has been proven when we've initiated, it's sort of the unofficial initiation, at least it was at a certain time for new crew members was having them eat something. But if you go back and look at those things or when we've had like a special guest,
Starting point is 01:03:33 like a Make-A-Wish guest or when we had the Golden Tee winner. Megan. Megan. She, they all ate stuff without issue. I don't think that we're especially good at it, at eating it. I think we're especially good at reacting to it. I think that the thing that we do that's compelling
Starting point is 01:03:56 is the way that we engage with it, but I don't think it's that we have some incredible tolerance for gross things, because I think Josh would show us up. Oh yeah. He can eat anything. The dude likes the blood, he prefers the blood. Well, we've got an idea, you know, we're flirting with an idea, I'll just, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:15 give you guys a scoop because hey, you've listened this far into an Ear Biscuit, talking about what if we revisited some Willits and I think this was an idea that some mythical beasts suggested as well so we are listening, we hear, and we consider that. I think Stevie might have seen some comments. Well because now we would be able to do it in a way
Starting point is 01:04:39 that back in the day it was throw broccoli into a taco but now we've got Josh and he can actually make something that's interesting, unique, and innovative in some way. So I think we revisited things, it would be in a completely fresh way. Can he make some of the things that Denton will? I think his greatest challenge is can he make me enjoy the blood?
Starting point is 01:05:02 That's really, but I do wanna just quickly, because I found some stuff that I think is, it helps to explain how we're gonna map out the next years of our life and how we're gonna relate to these things because the good news is, Link, we're gonna get better. You think we're already pretty good at eating this stuff. Well, science is on our side.
Starting point is 01:05:25 We are going to get better because our taste is going to get worse. Oh, what you got? First of all, I did not understand this but, okay so basically taste sensitive cells are called gustatory cells, gustatory cells? I may not, it's like the name Gus and then totory. Gustatory cells.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Sure. They're clustered within the taste buds of the tongue, the roof of the mouth, and the lining of the throat. What, you can taste with your throat, yes. I didn't know that. Did you know that you can taste with the roof of your mouth? You should like take your finger,
Starting point is 01:06:03 put it on the roof of your mouth and see if you taste it. No, let's make this an episode. This will be like a season four episode. Good idea, good idea. Can you taste with just your throat? Most people have around between 2,000 and 10,000 taste buds. That's quite a discrepancy, quite a range, but 9,000 is a number I got somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:06:22 So 9,000, I think it's closer to 10,000 for most people. Now, your taste buds will begin to decrease in number and also shrink and get less effective. The ones that remain get crappier. This happens between the ages of 40 and 50 for women and 50 to 60 for men. It happens later for men. So we've actually, like the 50 to 60 and then after 60,
Starting point is 01:06:45 those are gonna be the golden years of tasting for us. So a 45-year-old man has more taste than a 45-year-old woman. On average. I didn't say it. After 60, many people lose the ability to distinguish between sweet, salty, sour, and bitter foods. So now you're getting to a place where grandpa,
Starting point is 01:07:05 you know, it's just like the time that my grandfather-in-law, my brother-in-law was eating some steak and he got some gristle and he couldn't chew it and so he took it and he put it on his plate and then my grandfather-in-law just picked it up and ate it. Ew. Because old men cannot distinguish between somebody else's spit out gristle and steak.
Starting point is 01:07:24 That's texture, man. That was just, he's also a performer. I don't know if he knew that it had been spit out. He just picked it off his plate and ate it. And then it gets worse. After 70, your sense of smell begins to decrease, which is just adding to the fact that you've got all these dying taste buds.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Now you can't even smell, which is 80% of taste. And then what people start doing is they start adding salt and sugar so they can taste more, which is in turn bad for their health. Oh. I think what this all means is that people are just not meant to live that long, you know? I think, mm-hmm. Modern medicine,
Starting point is 01:07:56 we're supposed to like die, like we're supposed to be about dead right now. That's the, humans are supposed to be what, 40, 45, 50, like the cavemen and then you're supposed to expire. No, no, no. But we've got all these modern conveniences and we can just live forever. But not taste.
Starting point is 01:08:12 We can't hear, we can't see, we can't taste, we can't smell. But that's a great time to just really lean into this. Yeah, I think what it means is. So after 70, man. Boy, we're really gonna turn a corner on Good Mythical Morning. We'll just be eating, we'll be eating the testicles
Starting point is 01:08:29 right off of animals. Well I mean. You thought that was funny. Because anything will be acceptable. That's a joke I hope. You know, that far in advance, you know. Right. Actually, the reality is we're gonna look.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Experience this hologram of these elderly people. Oh no, you know what's gonna happen? Because society changes and societal norms change and what's acceptable morally continues to change, we're gonna look back, like they will show videos of us eating testicles like 20 or 30 years from now and it'll be like can you believe that we did this as a society?
Starting point is 01:09:07 It's a shame. Oh gosh. We'll be in like a montage at the beginning of a documentary about the decline of. It all started when people started getting entertained by men eating animal testicles. And we'll be like you're right, sorry. We'll go live in a cave.
Starting point is 01:09:23 We will grant an interview for the documentary? No no, we'll be in a cave. We won't speak to anyone. We'll be like, you're right, sorry. We'll go live in a cave. We will grant an interview for the documentary? No, no, we'll be in a cave. We won't speak to anyone. We'll be publicly shamed. Oh, and we won't be able to taste. We'll be like, I'm sorry, it was a different time. And it'll be like, we don't care that it was a different time, you shouldn't have done it.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Did you bring sugar and salt? Okay, well, I think the conclusion is, as fascinating as benign masochism is, and it does apply to certain things, I do not think it applies to us because. Really, yeah, in relation to the show, I completely agree. Right, right. I don't like, I don't,
Starting point is 01:09:53 I've never had a hankering to taste testicle. Me neither, man. That's the truth. That's the truth. But no judgment if that's you. So there you have it, a culinary delight spread before you and a table of our choosing which is round and dimly lit.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Do you have a recommendation for us? We gotta throw in a Rex in effect because we try to, if you hated all of that, you still stuck around because you want a recommendation. I'm gonna make this quick but I'm gonna recommend an app. Still in the music loving genre. I recommend Genius. It's also a website.
Starting point is 01:10:30 And so if you haven't heard of this, it's a collective of users who will then place commentary on lyrics. Have you ever heard of this? No. The app is yellow and it's called Genius. It's called Genius. Not Genius Scan.
Starting point is 01:10:50 No. Another app. That's for receipts. So yeah, I mean, as an avid partaker in hip hop, I'm able to, I need translations. Like basically genius is a translation for what the hell they're talking about in hip hop these days. Because I mean between all the mumbling
Starting point is 01:11:15 and all the codes, they rap in code. Right. And if this 40 year old out of touch dude is going to understand it and fully appreciate what's happening, I lean on Genius. Wow, that's a good rec. Yeah and they have a reason. Is it all lyrics or is it hip hop in general? All lyrics, any song that you're curious about the meaning
Starting point is 01:11:40 or any, and people will upvote and so like the best user generated commentary will kinda rise to the top. So it's not, it's got this wiki vibe that it's not 100% reliable but you can kinda tell. You know so it definitely helps shed some light on, I mean basically all of hip hop is code is what I've learned from the app. And if you're listening on Spotify,
Starting point is 01:12:05 sometimes on your phone, they'll have like Genius will come up and add like a pop-up video layer. I learned like the backstory about that, you know, the song Africa because I was just listening to it on Spotify and the Genius pop-ups started coming up on the video, which is pretty cool. Oh yeah. I just find myself watching Genius via Spotify
Starting point is 01:12:31 on my phone listening to music. Because I'm into that. So that's the rec, if you're into that, then go check it out. And if you think you know stuff about lyrics, you can submit stuff. Again, not a sponsor, just a rec. Yeah, we just give recs, man.
Starting point is 01:12:45 We just give recs stuff that we like. All right, that's all I got. Thanks for hanging out with us. Are you hungry? Go get you something to eat. I don't think we talked about anything that would generate appetite. Salt and vinegar almonds.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Oh, yep, those are good. Don't give them to the kid, though. Hashtag Ear Biscuits, let us know about your experience with benign masochism. Or don't. You know what it is now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just tell us how you see gross foods. Just in a food realm.
Starting point is 01:13:19 We'll be more specific, yeah.

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