Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 193: What is the Greatest Game Show of All Time? | Ear Biscuits Ep. 193

Episode Date: May 13, 2019

Game shows are timeless classics that have lived on through the ages -- most currently as compilations on YouTube. R&L individually rank their top 5 game shows of all time in this episode of Ear Biscu...its! Sponsored by:  Dunkin’: Power up your day with the Dunkin’ Power Breakfast Sandwich and Egg White Dunkin’ Bowl.  Honey: Get Honey for free at JoinHoney.com/EAR to save time and money while shopping online. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Rhett. And I'm Rhett. Ha, I gotcha. I'm Link. I think you got yourself. No I didn't. I fooled you, man.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Is that why we introduced ourselves at the beginning of the podcast? It would have fooled me. We know who we are? Or is see. Or is it for them? Yeah, I would have gotten you. For the listener. You can't get me if I go first. This is a fundamental misunderstanding.
Starting point is 00:00:31 If I said, welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Link, I would have gotten you. But I'd already said my name, so you saying that you're Rhett is getting no one. You know what, I'll get. Except the Mythical Beasts. I'll get you next week. Okay, I'm ready. I'm gonna get you.
Starting point is 00:00:43 There's nothing you can do to prepare. Well now I know that you're gonna do it. I am prepared. I'll still get you next week. Okay, I'm ready. I'm gonna get, there's nothing you can do to prepare. Well now I know that you're gonna do it. I am prepared. I'll still get you. Okay. I'll still get you. This week at the Round Table of Dim Lighting, we're asking the question,
Starting point is 00:00:55 what is the greatest game show of all time? At least according to me and separately, but equally according to Link. Oh that's funny. Don't say something's funny. Either laugh or don't. But don't say that's funny. We have ranked.
Starting point is 00:01:14 So insulting. We have ranked our top five game shows. And we haven't looked at each other's lists. And made a list of honorable mentions because it wasn't necessarily that easy to do that. So we're gonna go through that, compare notes. Can I just say that, you may say, oh, who cares about game shows?
Starting point is 00:01:33 I don't even know why I'm listening to this. But I will say, I'm personally offended because this is a deeply personal topic for me. Like, as I think will become clear very quickly when I go through my list, game shows are tied in not only to my psyche and not only to by the way, what we do for a living now in terms of formatting Good Mythical Morning,
Starting point is 00:01:55 I think there's a lot that we don't, we haven't plumbed the depths, maybe we will today, of how the game show culture and our experiences with it have shaped Good Mythical Morning but even if we don't get to it, it is a fact but even more importantly, there's a certain part of my childhood, actually a couple of eras in my childhood
Starting point is 00:02:16 that are deeply associated with game shows. Well and I also think it will be interesting because my theory is that your criteria for what makes a good game show is probably different than mine. And maybe there ends up being some crossover because of that, maybe not. Or maybe we'll just fight.
Starting point is 00:02:38 So I am excited about this discussion. We do wanna let you know that we are coming your way if you happen to be in one of the following places on the following dates. Yes, again, this musical comedy tour that we're doing right now, which is not the Tour of Mythicality. People are still calling it that.
Starting point is 00:02:56 The Tour of Mythicality was a distinct thing that was related to the first book. This is a musical concert experience that we're having Britton Buchanan, Link's cousin from The Voice opening up for us and anecdotal evidence as told to us by Mythical Beast that we met while on tour last time have told us that they prefer this show
Starting point is 00:03:18 to the tour of Mythicality. So I would say eight out of 10, nine out of 10, maybe 10 out of 10. Yeah, prefer it. There was a couple people who said- 10 out of 10 dentists prefer. Yeah, especially if you're a dentist. Rhett and Link live in concert
Starting point is 00:03:35 versus the Tour of Mythicality. So if you like that, you'll love this. And again- If you didn't like it, you'll love this. We're gonna be in Las Vegas on Friday, June 21st. We're gonna be in Salt Lake City on June 22nd. We're gonna be in Las Vegas on Friday, June 21st. We're gonna be in Salt Lake City on June 22nd. We're gonna be in Denver, Colorado on June 23rd. We're gonna be in Milwaukee on June 25th.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Indianapolis, June 26th. Detroit on June 27th. Omaha on June 29th. And Minneapolis on June 30th. Come out and see us. And if you know someone who's in these areas, tell them to Come out and see us. And if you know someone who's in these areas, tell them to come out and see us. Because that's what we run into.
Starting point is 00:04:10 What we have found is every time we're visiting a town and we're walking around before a show or after a show or whatever, people are like Rhett and Link, what are you doing here? And we're like, well, we got a show. And they're like, what? Oh, we had a show, that's even sadder. Yeah, so we're letting you know now, so.
Starting point is 00:04:26 You can let them know now. Go to Rhettandlinklive.com to get your ticks. Get your ticks. You got something for me before we get into game shows? Yeah, I do. I'm feeling not a little bit jittery because I am. Does that mean not jittery or a lot jittery? I'm a lot jittery. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I am on sort of the second half of day two of, and I'm not gonna say the brand because I haven't finished this yet so I'm not in the mood for an endorsement. I don't know if this is gonna be something that I will then recommend to other people. But I like to try new things and experiment with new things and I'm kinda into the whole like.
Starting point is 00:05:11 If this is illegal, we should talk off mic. It's not illegal. I'm into the whole anti-aging thing and I've been doing the intermittent fasting thing for almost two months now. Which is? Basically eating for an eight hour period and then not eating for a 16 hour period.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Super, actually a lot of people here are doing it at the office. Like it's really popular. That makes you feel better about it. Sure. It actually, so here's what I'll say. I can give at least a two month in endorsement of intermittent fasting has radically transformed
Starting point is 00:05:44 some things about my body. And I'm not talking about like body shape. I'm talking about like inflammation. Like I got like little spots of like psoriasis that pop up. Those have dwindled. I have like this recurrent sort of like unpredictable bowel reactions to things, you know? Like if we eat something weird on the show
Starting point is 00:06:05 or if we eat something really spicy, that has stabilized. And all the five times that I've had hot chicken in the past couple weeks, absolutely no negative effects from it. I have to believe that this is somewhat related. You've been freed up to say yes every single time that you're remotely presented with the opportunity to sample a hot chicken.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Listen, and that means a lot to me. Like we're walking down the street and you just stop. That means a lot. You said, I'll meet up with you later, I'm gonna be in this hot chicken place that we just happened to stumble on even though we've just eaten lunch. And getting like the hottest one.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Still, no effect. And this is, again, this is not the thing that you're not endorsing, this is intermittent fasting. This is just. Which means you're waking up in the morning, you're not eating breakfast. You eat at, you pick an eight hour, there's different, I'm doing the 16 and eight, so basically I wake up in the morning,
Starting point is 00:06:51 I don't eat until noon, and then I don't eat after eight o'clock. And basically I'm kind of keep. After eight o'clock would be easy, but I don't think I could wait until noon to eat. Well, I get. It wasn't, I was never like a, I don't wake up hungry, so that wasn't a big deal for me.
Starting point is 00:07:05 What about if you go to the gym and then afterward, aren't you starving? You gotta build muscle, man. Yeah, but you adjust pretty quickly to that. And it doesn't, you drink, right? You drink water? Just water. Yeah, and you have tea.
Starting point is 00:07:19 There's some people who are really like really sticklers. You can have like some BCAAAAs, branched chain amino acids and stuff like that that don't really hit the calorie. Okay, you're losing me. That kind of thing. For me, that's really complicated because I don't wanna be the dad who doesn't eat dinner. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:38 So this way I can still eat dinner which makes me not a weird person. Great movie though. The dad who would not eat dinner. It's in black and white but you get used to that after like the opening scene which is amazing. It's the dad and he's at the table but he's not eating dinner.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Right but he's present. Everybody else is there eating dinner. He just watches you as you eat. Yeah and it was hilarious. It's better than just like watching TV while you eat. They hated him, they hated him. But that's the start of the character arc. So you have a difficult time in the morning.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Late at night, that is my time. That's what's been difficult to me is I am a late night snacker and so stopping eating basically at eight o'clock, essentially after dinner, that has been a difficult adjustment to me so I go to bed hungry. But you haven't even gotten to the thing. But the thing that I am trying now is this thing,
Starting point is 00:08:27 it's called the fasting mimicking diet that these professors or a professor at USC like partnered with some anti-aging institute and they came up, they formulated this diet. If that makes you feel better about it. It's a five, it does, Well, it's not just some hack, it's like scientific from a legitimate establishment. They formulated a diet.
Starting point is 00:08:50 ULCA, oh, nope. That tricks your body into thinking that it is fasting. So when you fast, all this stuff happens. Like all the science is showing right now that during a period of fasting, there's like all these things that are happening to your body and organs shrinking and cell renewal and stuff like that, that the research is beginning
Starting point is 00:09:11 to kind of line up that this is a really healthy thing for people to do. But fasting just cold turkey is a difficult thing to do and also probably, I don't really know all the reasons why they want you to have a little bit of calories but not go cold turkey but I think that it's just an easier transition for people. I like systems like that I can just get a box of food and just be like, I don't have to think about this.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I literally look at a picture, like a little printout. I do like that. You have to eat the three things from, you get a little box for every day. These three things at breakfast, these three things at lunch, these three things in the afternoon. from, you get a little box for every day. Yes. Eat these three things at breakfast, these three things at lunch, these three things in the afternoon. Yeah, preschooler could do it.
Starting point is 00:09:49 But the things that I'm eating are like a bar and I'm not doing the fasting mimicking and the intermittent fasting because I have to keep up with the breakfast, lunch and dinner, just so you know. You had to switch gears, had to switch tracks. All that to say that it's not enough food. Well I looked over your shoulder yesterday and you were finishing a bowl of juice with seeds in it.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It's what it looked like to me. Soup. I just put it in a, I put it in a. It didn't look like soup, man, it was jelly-like. Well the reason you interpreted it as a drink is because I had it in a mason jar. But it was minestrone. It wasn't initially good minestrone.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Actually it tasted excellent in the state that I was in. You're basically doing a hospital recovery mimic diet. Like when, you know, if you're recovering from something and then they put you on this weird, bland, watery diet. Well and there's packs of, the reason that a lot of people, including you, wouldn't be able to do this is that one of the things that you get twice a day is a pack of olives.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Oh God. And actually, I've never had so much fun with a pack of olives. What have you been doing with it? Well, just eating it, believe it or not. And it's like six olives. And it makes, I mean, I already like olives, but when you're barely eating anything,
Starting point is 00:11:11 a package of six olives is heavenly. I mean, I might just have little small packs of olives from here on out. You eat the pit? You're that hungry? They're de-pitted. Or they're pitted. Yeah, because they're afraid that you'll eat it.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I mean here's the thing about fasting. I think it goes back to like hunter-gatherer type situation where you're like, you know, you get desperate to find some food, you're like hunting, you're out there and you're like your organs are shrinking and your body's getting sinewy and you're like, you're like pulling back your bowstring and trying to get a deer, man.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Well that is. And you know what? And you're desperate. But that is the science behind it is that people say that, and again, I don't know, I haven't read enough about this to make any endorsements or say what's true and what's not true. Why read about it when you can eat about it? When you can just do it.
Starting point is 00:11:59 The thinking behind the whole fasting thing is that humans traditionally, like back in those hunter-gatherer days, it wasn't like you didn't have. Rolling over and stuffing your face. You didn't have three square meals per day. You ate when it was plentiful. That's one of the reasons we have such a, we abuse fats and sugars because it wasn't often
Starting point is 00:12:20 that you came across fats and sugars. If you came across a calorie- calorie dense thing, you ate it. Capitalized, buddy. But now we're just surrounded by calorie dense things and so we're all out of whack. Anyway. But my problem, I think the risk with the fasting is that you might find yourself attacking and eating things.
Starting point is 00:12:41 You better watch out. Like if you tried to eat Jade, I would kill your ass. Like I would not hesitate. It would be instinctive. Again, it would be like one of those, I'm not gonna kill it. It would be like a hunter-gatherer fight to the death. Would you eat my dog?
Starting point is 00:12:56 I can make a promise. Don't eat my dog. I am not going to kill. Like a cartoon. I'm not gonna kill your dog in the next four days. Looks like a cooked turkey, you know? I will not kill your dog. Eat your own dog, man.
Starting point is 00:13:06 In these circumstances. But in the apocalypse, in desperate times, if I've already eaten someone else's dog and the only thing left is your dog and my dog, I'll probably eat your dog. Yeah, I think in an apocalyptic situation, the dogs that you wanna keep around are like the ones that are ferocious.
Starting point is 00:13:28 You don't wanna keep around the emotional support dogs. I think they become like, emotional support dogs are the first things that become hunger support dogs. Right, well there's, I don't watch The Walking Dead anymore but there's not a dog in that show, right? Well.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Was there a dog? There's a lot of union stipulations when you bring in the dogs and the kids. Right. I think that's why they started killing the kids too. Early on they killed the kids. I'll tell you right now. Because they have to bring in tutors and stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I'm jittery, I can only imagine how bad your shakes, I think I probably have equal shakes to you right now. I'm steady as a painter. Why are you moving so much then? For those of you listening, we're holding our hands next to each other, seeing who's shakier. Pretty even right now. Anyway, I'll report back and let you know how I feel
Starting point is 00:14:26 at the end of the week. Why not at the end of this episode? Let's just contain it right here. Yeah, well, I'll still be on day two. All right, so let's get into our game show list now that I've thoroughly picked apart your minestrone diet. Wherever you're going, you better believe American Express
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Starting point is 00:15:24 Visit your nearest Best Buy store today. Terms and conditions apply. Give me your philosophy of how you chose these. What was your guiding principle? My guiding principle for my top five game shows of all time was enjoyment factor coupled with, I just think sentimental slash personal connection. So do you wanna just, you wanna just start? I wanna give, okay, that's your philosophy.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I have some honorable mentions. Yeah, I should ask, what's your philosophy? Sorry, I should have asked that. And this is. That's what polite people would have done. And okay, I figured that it had to do, because you talk about game shows a lot, especially like when you were a kid watching.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Interestingly, watching game shows and not watching any movies that everyone else on Earth was watching, which if you were wondering why Link didn't see Back to the Future, Top Gun, Ghostbusters, Goonies, fill in the blank, every single movie that you saw when you were a child. He was watching game shows. Well I was watching, no I was watching.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And Entertainment Tonight. Yeah, my mom and I watched Entertainment Tonight every single night at 7.30 I guess it was. Maybe seven o'clock. Yeah there was a point where during the summer, mom would drop me off at Nana and Papa's house and Nana just worked like a few blocks away as a dental assistant.
Starting point is 00:16:53 No one was watching me but Nana would come in at lunch, like she could leave the dental office and come home and like make lunch for me and her and then Papa, who was police officer, chief of police, he would also come home, which meant he'd come home and we'd eat lunch together. So and then she would be home pretty early in the afternoon. I don't know how that happened,
Starting point is 00:17:12 but the dental stuff kind of slowed down around 3.30. It kind of like school or something. I don't know. Really? So but in the mornings, I would watch the USA Network and they would just have syndicated game shows. But in the mornings, I would watch the USA Network and they would just have syndicated game shows like from years earlier. So like from the, so I mean it was the late 80s
Starting point is 00:17:37 when I was watching these game shows but they were from the early 80s or 70s and I would watch reruns of The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson right when I would watch reruns of The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson right when I would get there on USA. Like that's how I watched Johnny Carson every single day, like learned all of his bits and everything about that. So those are all reruns from the 70s.
Starting point is 00:17:57 But at the time his show was on. At night. At night. Yeah, which I didn't stay up and watch as like a, you know, an upper grade schooler. And of course, because we were friends with Ben, Ben, he would stay up. If you spent the night at Ben's house, you stayed up and you watched Johnny Carson.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah. Because Ben just had those kinds of tastes. I never spent the night at Ben's house, by the way. Really? Never once, yeah. It's like, I mean, you guys were that much, you were a lot closer than we were. It's like, so yeah, I would hear about Johnny Carson
Starting point is 00:18:31 and Letterman, he also liked Letterman. But yeah, I watched the older Johnny Carsons because they were syndicated on USA Network and when those were done, the game shows would begin for like, there were, I mean, probably at least three hours of game shows, so like six game shows would begin for like, there were probably at least three hours of game shows, so like six game shows. Some of them made my list, some of them made my honorable mention.
Starting point is 00:18:50 You shouldn't mention any of them because then you might know what, I don't wanna know your list yet. That's special to me. But your awareness of game shows and your attachment are related to that. Related to that summer. Whereas I think that my experience with game shows and your attachment are related to that. Related to that summer. Whereas I think that my experience with game shows is probably, I think it represents most people's interaction
Starting point is 00:19:13 with game shows in that I watch them when they came on in prime time or in the afternoon or whatever. I saw those reruns but I think my list is generated, it comes from the game shows that I actually enjoyed personally and with my family. And I think that the ones that, I just kinda noticed this after I compiled my list, the ones that I had put as my top five,
Starting point is 00:19:43 the thing that I value the most about game shows is the play along ability. Okay. And it's interesting because I think it would- I value some, I think that- And I would say that you don't value that as much as I do. I don't, I value something else more and I learned it from looking at my own list
Starting point is 00:19:59 only after I'd made it. So let's start with your number five. I have honorable mentions, maybe they're on your list. Number five, Wheel of Fortune. Wheel of Fortune. Wheel of Fortune is one of the longest running game shows in history. Of course it is the nightly follow up to Jeopardy.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Why am I saying this like you don't already know? Who wouldn't know this stuff? Potentially the or, potentially the most popular game show of all time. If not tied with a couple other ones that might have made our lists. I mean, it has all the ingredients, right? It's got a charismatic, funny host.
Starting point is 00:20:39 It's got a, it has Vanna White. So it has the sex appeal. Oh yeah. From Myrtle Beach. A woman from Myrtle Beach. South Carolina. I wonder what dress she's gonna wear today. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I bet there's sequins all over her dressing room. I bet you couldn't vacuum them up if you wanted to. It's like glitter. No, no, sequins are way better than glitter. But for her, I'm just saying they're like deeply ingrained. I bet she has sequins on her skin permanently. I actually think she had them attached at some point. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I think Vanna White Skin is sequin. So if something rips, there's still sequin under there. Yeah. I think that's what it is. It has a very high play along ability factor. Yeah, and accessibility. And it's very accessible. The rules are really easy to understand.
Starting point is 00:21:26 You gotta know English and words. And everyone thinks that they can do it. Unlike Jeopardy. Right. Jeopardy's interesting. I'm sure we'll get to Jeopardy. We'll talk about Jeopardy. But anyway, and of course,
Starting point is 00:21:43 at one point, so Pat Sajak of course was a weatherman before he was the host of the Wheel of Fortune and he was a Los Angeles based weatherman. I think I've told this story before. I would love to meet him. And my dad kind of, in my mind, looked like Pat Sajak and I swear to you. As a kid, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:03 There was a time when I was watching the weather and I told my mom, I was 100% convinced that my dad was on television. I thought, yeah, they make him up a little bit different for television so it doesn't look quite the same. This is when I was in California. 38, you were 38 years old. Yeah, it was a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:22:22 She used to turn the letters manually. No, she just touches them. They would light up and then she would have to walk over there and turn them. And now, they light up and then when she touches them, they change. How do you think she does it? But I don't think she does anything. I don't think she, Hold on.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I think there's just someone who times it. Well, I don't think it's a touchscreen. I'm just making that note. But okay, especially back when she used to turn them, she did it so quickly. If it's a huge phrase, how does she know so quickly what letters to go to? Is she seeing it somewhere else?
Starting point is 00:22:57 Is there something, do they do something that only Vanna can see on the letters? Like Google Glass? Well, I'm not talking about like augmented reality. They definitely didn't have that back in the 80s. They, they, they. But I'm saying, how do you think she knows? Feldman and I, I agree.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I think that they lit up. Oh they just light up? And then she would just turn up. Okay, yeah, but now they light up when she touches them. No, they light up and then she, They light up and then she touches them. Yeah, same thing. Oh okay, so her job is super easy. Yes, you're kinda, you're giving her lots of credit.
Starting point is 00:23:26 In my mind I just thought, I was like, how does she know to do this? I think, I don't want to, I don't want to. Okay, they just light up. Belittle what she does because she does a lot. She still has a very important job. She walks and she touches letters that if she didn't, if she wasn't there, they would still be revealed.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Right, it's the touch of Vanna, it's the touch of Vanna that, oh you say they still still be revealed. Right, it's the touch of Vanna, it's the touch of Vanna that, oh you say they still would be revealed. Well I'm sorry. I'm, I just. I believe that Vanna's touch is what reveals it. I just remembered another game show I'm adding to my, might have to go on my top five.
Starting point is 00:23:57 No it can't, it's an honorable mention. Okay so Wheel of Fortune, did it make your list? Or did you already tell me this? Wheel of Fortune didn't make my list, it's an honorable mention. If they still had the thing at the end where you could take your winnings and shop, remember like a thing would open and then all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:24:16 there'd be all this stuff with price tags and you could shop. Shopping spree, the shopping spree. If you could do the frickin' shopping spree. They've honed it down so much that like. Well they've just taken away the shopping spree. That you could do the freaking shopping spree. They've honed it down so much that like. Well they've just taken away the shopping spree. That's all they've honed. No, they also at the end, it's like,
Starting point is 00:24:30 the final puzzle is like R, S, T, L, N, E. Let's put those up there. We know you're gonna guess those anyway. For decades, people would just guess those. That's called fine tuning. So now, you're like, I mean it was inevitable, you have to do that. But I think someone, if someone time traveled
Starting point is 00:24:50 from like the Vanna turning the letters physically days to now, no shopping spree, none of that, that'd be like, it'd be very disappointing. But like whoa, this is a, this is a. Yeah that's too much change too fast. You have to slowly evolve a game show to keep that audience. I mean my parents still watch it every night. It's an indictment of us as a society
Starting point is 00:25:11 that it has to be so streamlined. I think you're being too hard on me, man. Didn't make my list. I mean it's. I would love to meet Pat Sajak and we've said it before, we want, I wanna go on as a duo. Yeah, the Friends episode. When they do the Friends episode.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah. Rhett and Link, we're friends. We wanna go on Wheel of Fortune. Come on Pat, come on Vanna. I'm sure, Vanna, that you do a lot more than we realize and we're sorry, but we wanna learn it. I thought that you had a special system for selecting the letters, so just so you know.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I bet you do. I bet she's the one writing all the puzzles, by the way. Yeah, I would love to go on that show. I will do nothing but positive, you will be number one on my list if we get to be on it. Okay. All right, Feldman, this just in. So in order to get the job done right,
Starting point is 00:26:00 Vanna is given the answers to the quizzes or the puzzles in advance, so she knows where the letters are located. She's given the answers to the quizzes or the puzzles in advance so she knows where the letters are located. She's given the answers. But they still light up. Even so, she does remember one time when she turned around the wrong letter
Starting point is 00:26:11 and the puzzle had to be thrown out. See, one time Vanna remembers turning around the wrong letter and she, but she does know the solutions to the puzzles ahead of time. Yeah. Hold on, but it's not as simple as they just light up, guys. There's something else going on. We're gonna have to puzzles ahead of time. Hold on, but it's not as simple as they just light up, guys. There's something else going on. We're gonna have to watch clips of this.
Starting point is 00:26:27 My number five is a game show that I watched on the USA Network in that timeframe as a kid, Bumper Stompers. You ever heard of this? Is that when you're trying to do the license plates? Well, you can probably guess, but do you remember it? Yeah, that's what it is. I'm not guessing.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I'm trying to remember if that's the right thing, yes. You've seen it, okay. It's where they, it's like the- I didn't know if you would've seen it. It's like the vanity plates and you're trying to figure out what they mean. Yeah, and I couldn't remember who the host was,
Starting point is 00:26:55 I looked it up, this is like a Canadian game show that they syndicated, Al Dubois. Oh yeah, Al Dubois. What a Canadian name, well it's a French name. From Montreal. Al Dubois, yeah, I Dubois. What a Canadian name. Well it's a French name. From Montreal. Au Dubois, yeah I love the bumper stumpers and I always thought, man, one day I'll be able to get a vanity plate and then when the time came
Starting point is 00:27:14 I was like, I ain't getting no vanity plates. Extra. Yeah. Cost extra. It costs extra. Yeah and it is extra. I just remember loving it. I mean, I just think it's simple. I think it needs to be recognized more.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I think it's something that you play all the time. It's difficult to come up with a good vanity plate in real life but how much more difficult is it to create an entire game show where it's like, you're making it happen. It was fun. That's your, actually your, I commend them.
Starting point is 00:27:44 That made your time fun. They turned Vanity Place into an entire game show in Canada. Okay, first of all. That's a feat, man. Incredibly high play along ability factor. Yeah. So because. And when people are guessing,
Starting point is 00:27:58 it's like, it's kind of fun to watch them try to sound it out. What else happened? I don't remember. At least you could win a car, right? I remember that there were a lot of car sound effects. Hurt, hurt. I like sound effects.
Starting point is 00:28:13 That's all, I don't remember. Don't ask me anything else about it because I don't remember. That gives me some clues as to what else is gonna be on your list if you like sound effects. I wanted it to be recognized as my number five. What's your number four? Not bumper stumpers, believe it or not.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Hollywood Squares. Hollywood Squares. Is my number four. We've ended up talking about Hollywood Squares quite a bit as we've actually tried to figure out what a modern day version of Hollywood Squares would be because you had the celebrity factor. And of course, those of you who don't know,
Starting point is 00:28:45 Hollywood Squares is essentially tic-tac-toe. Two people are playing tic-tac-toe against one another. And you are, the way you get your letter, either X or O on the board is the host asks a celebrity who's in that spot a question. And then you have to decide if you're going to agree or disagree with them. They answer the question and then they'll, yeah, you have to agree or disagree.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And they're either, you know, purposely bullshitting you. Yeah. Or they are answering it correctly and you have to judge the personality. And of course, for many years, was it Joan Rivers was the middle square? Yeah. Which is the most important square.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I gotta jump in here and say I'm pretty disappointed. Pretty disappointed, why? For a couple of reasons. Okay. I'm disappointed that it's not higher on your list. Oh really? And I think it should be and I think it will be after I talk some more about it.
Starting point is 00:29:40 All right. But you also stole my thunder. That's why I'm also upset. Okay, I'm sorry. This is my number one! Ladies and gentlemen, my number one, stealing my thunder. This is your number one? The way we do the system is there's no buildup to number one
Starting point is 00:29:57 because the chances of the other person putting it lower really takes the wind out of a reveal. No, that just makes it more fun. You know what, it's just you get to the exciting thing earlier. It's like putting the shopping spree at the top of Wheel of Fortune. Well they should have tried that.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Maybe it'd still be on the air. Just kidding, it is. My number one game show is Hollywood Squares. Okay. And I watched this religiously. I'm pretty sure it was on that USA situation. It was so, and I didn't realize why until I guess now that I think about it, or when we were talking about it
Starting point is 00:30:34 about a year ago, because we were talking about game shows and developing ideas for game shows, honestly. The comedic factor, the fact that like someone could intentionally try to deceive you or there's different ways to play it. Some people were just celebrities and they were just playing it sincere. Some of them were acting sincere but they were playing you.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And some of them, you know, the comedians on there like Jim J. Bullock, I don't know who that guy is except that he was on Hollywood Squares. He would, you know, you knew he was gonna give a funny answer. Yeah. And then you weren't supposed to take it seriously, everybody would laugh and then he would give his answer
Starting point is 00:31:12 that you were gonna agree or disagree with. So this is something we do on our show. I mean, when we play our like whiteboard games, we talk about, well, we kinda know that sometimes we're gonna, well we kinda know that sometimes we're gonna, sometimes we give funny answers on the whiteboard, sometimes we say funny answers but then there's a different answer on the whiteboard. Like I was gonna say so and so and maybe try to get a laugh.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Right. All that comes from Hollywood Squares. And that's why I love it. I love, I mean, I love all that stuff about it. I also love the fact that it was lower pressure for the contestants. Like something about me watching. Okay, this is interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:51 This is what I wanted to talk about, so go ahead. Yeah, and I think I'm just now realizing this. I also love the fact that I feel like I could be a contestant on that and not shit my pants. And this says a lot about our personalities because the reason, and I figured that it would be higher on your list, if not number one. You have a 50-50 chance.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And I know how to play tic-tac-toe. The reason that it did not get higher than four on my list is because there's not enough at stake. It's not truly competitive. There's not enough skill. There's no drama. Like, I, now, when you get to what my number one is, you might be like, well, why is that your number one?
Starting point is 00:32:27 And I'll try to justify it. But the reason Hollywood Squares, as great as all those things that you described about it are. I think I know what it is, but I'm not gonna say it because I don't wanna spoil your number one, which, well, you might end up spoiling it anyway. I would never do to you what you just did to me. The reason is that it's just fun.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah. It's just fun. Yeah. It's only fun. Good X's and O's fun. I don't remember any of the contestants. There's no like, do you remember when Ken Jennings was winning for a month, you know what I'm saying? Right. Like there's no opportunity for the contestant
Starting point is 00:32:57 to excel in a way that brings the attention back to them. Which again, as somebody who's super competitive and has had a life of like competing in sports and stuff like that and drawing attention to them, which again, as somebody who's super competitive and has had a life of like competing in sports and stuff like that and drawing attention to myself, I naturally kinda lock into that game strategy and like well how do you win this and how are you the victor in this and Hollywood Squares didn't have that. It had the comedy side which I love and that's why
Starting point is 00:33:20 it's on my top five of all time but it's not higher because of that. In the resurgence of game shows, the primetime game shows where you're talking about like, what's the Howie Mandel box show? Deal or No Deal. I hope that's not on your list. It isn't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It is an honorable mention. I mean. But I have a very specific reason why it's not on my list. All right, again, I'm not gonna spoil what I think is your number one, but I'm just gonna say. But I'll wait until I get to another game show that is a modern game show and tell you why it is on my list
Starting point is 00:33:50 and why Deal or No Deal is not on my list. The drama and the stakes and the spotlight and all that stuff from all those primetime shows, the resurgence of game shows in primetime. Is based on that principle. Is based on the principle of drama and stakes. You can't get a prime time game show that's just fun. Doesn't work. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:34:10 They tried to bring back the Gong Show, which is not on my list, even though I watched that some. And I didn't like that, because that was just frivolous. That was basically just like a crazy variety show. I wasn't into that. They brought it back with Mike Myers playing a character. It was too silly. It was too silly. That no one watching it back with Mike Myers playing a character. It was too silly. It was too silly.
Starting point is 00:34:25 That no one watching network television understood that there was a character. Yeah, that was weird. I don't understand. Wrong crowd. What's, is it my turn? It's your turn to say what your number four is. My number four is The Price is Right.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Okay. I think The Price is Right is the longest running game show in history. Can you verify that? At another point in my life, when I was younger and I couldn't be left alone for any amount of time, my mom took me to Miss Dean. Miss Dean drove a big blue Cadillac
Starting point is 00:34:58 that only had two doors, but the doors were so long. It was like you would pull the door handle and as like a grade schooler, she'd pick me up from school, she'd pull the, I'd pull the door handle open and then I would have to walk in like a circular radius in order to, using all my weight to like push the door open and then get in the back seat with three or four other kids. Is it the longest running game show?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yes. Since when? 69. 1972. 1972. That it the longest running game show? Yes, since when? 69. 1972. 1972. That's the syndicated version. Over the syndicated version.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Originally aired on network TV from 56 to 65. 56 is when it originally aired. And that was Bob Barker from the top, I believe. No, he says. We should have done some research. Who cares about research? Who cares? This is all about my brain.
Starting point is 00:35:43 It's happening now. Over the summer, when she didn't pick me up from school and I'd have to walk her door open, mom would just drop me off and I'd be there in the morning, eat a little Rice Krispies with a bunch of sugar added. At Ms. Dean's? At Ms. Dean's. She added sugar to your Rice Krispies at Ms. Dean's?
Starting point is 00:36:01 I insisted upon it. Okay. I remember there was a little television situated like right in front of our table where we would eat breakfast and everything and then, but then, I mean we watch other stuff, but then ultimately, Price is Right would come on at same time it does now, 11 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Which is interesting that it's time slot and that's what you associated with it, watching Price is Right in the late morning, but don't watch Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy in the late morning. I love Price is Right. I also think it has a heavy influence on Good Mythical Morning.
Starting point is 00:36:38 But what would happen is the reason why it's not higher for me, even though I love it, especially that big wheel, man, that is awesome. And I love Bob Barker, I love his long microphone. At the end of the episode, I knew, we were eating lunch, like she would serve lunch at like 1140 and we would eat like our grilled cheese or whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And then I knew at the end of the showcase showdown that like, I'm gonna have to take a nap right after this and that's the reason why it's not higher. She would make us take a nap. Seems a little unfair. At noon. To Price is Right. Hold on, it's an hour long show.
Starting point is 00:37:18 An hour long show and at the moment, yeah you'd have a winner of the first, like first person would spin the wheel and be like, oh, I like that guy, he's gonna come back at the end and then they'd bring more people up. So at the end when he was like, and remember, have your pet spayed or neutered, I was like, now I gotta lay down
Starting point is 00:37:36 and act like I'm going to sleep. I hated it. That's the only reason it's not higher. Pavlovian response to Bob Barker's neutering call. The pandemonium when you would like run down, come on down, I was just excited. Well okay, so it's not on my list and it was and I ended up knocking it off to add another one that,
Starting point is 00:37:56 I don't even know how I feel about it. Because Miss Dean would make you take a nap at noon which is cruel. I never even met her. You never met her? I don't think so. Man, the more I think about it, it has so many great elements.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Just let me just cover them for a second, right? Very funny, quick-witted host. You got the sex appeal of the Barker beauties. There's male models now. Now there's male models, yes, it's 2019, of course. That's great, bring it on. You've got a play along ability, you've got the variety of all the different games,
Starting point is 00:38:29 you've got lots of cash and prizes, it's an hour long, you've got the wheel, you've got the showcase showdown, it has so many elements. When Safecracker comes on, you get excited, or of course Plinko, like woo! I honestly think that the reason it didn't make my list is the time of day that it comes on that makes it feel less weighty to me.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And the commercials really bring you down. Lots of commercials. They're marketed towards people who are dying. And also, I mean honestly. I never, I always found myself being annoyed by the contestants in a way that I was not annoyed. And you know what, something that Bob Barker didn't do. They're manic.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah, they're- The contestants are manic. And he also, even though he had a lot of dry wit, I feel like he encouraged a lot of that, whereas other hosts would kinda shut it down. He almost absorbed it as personal adulation. And I don't know if I was jealous or I don't know what it was, but there was something about the whole system
Starting point is 00:39:30 that turned me off enough to make me not, because one of the reasons I've, one of the criteria for this list is if I turn the channel to it, which I still do turn the channel sometimes. Oh, I know what's up there for you now. That you watch it. If I land on it, I will keep watching it until it's over.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And so The Price is Right is something that I would tune out of. I didn't have to watch it until the end. So most of the stuff on my list or all this stuff on my list is something that I will kind of lock into. Drew Carey. Drew Carey's whole career changed.
Starting point is 00:40:06 It was a complete career change to then to step into that role. What's your next one? I'd love to bid a dollar though. You know, I Justine. She's been on there. She was on there. Of course they cast, they look at everybody in line.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Hate to break this to you but when you stand in line, they decide who's gonna come up. They cast you based on, they pick people in line. When you're standing in line for prices, right, they're interviewing people. They're going down the aisle. It's profiling. They're profiling you, they're interviewing you,
Starting point is 00:40:36 and they bring you up there. It's like, oh, you got a social media following? Get up here, girl. Okay, this is my one modern game show. Who wants to be a millionaire? This is, okay, this is the one that was the, was started the new, the resurgence of game shows in prime time, I believe.
Starting point is 00:40:57 So dramatic. And I am talking about the Regis Philbin version. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, is it? Meredith Vieira? Is it still on? I don't think it is, no. And here's why.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Maybe in syndication, but Meredith Vieira took over during the daytime. Okay, so. Maybe at night, I don't know. When it came on. I watched it. The stakes were so high. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:19 You could win a million dollars, unlike anything that had ever happened on a game show before. It was nerve-wracking, there was a spotlight on this person. They had to call the right person. They had to make the right decisions. They used their lifelines. And then you've got this incredibly funny host,
Starting point is 00:41:36 you know, you've got that. So it isn't like you had this, like there was the weakest link and you had that really like caustic woman. British woman. And she was very funny but it was just all. It was a bit. It was all a bit the whole time and Regis,
Starting point is 00:41:53 I always liked him, I always liked Regis. Yeah. And I liked the way he did. I see a lot of your dad in Regis. Right. He always, what do we got here? Started August 16th, 1999. So anyway.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Still in syndication, of course. High playability factor, play along ability factor. And the reason that I put that on the list is because it has all these elements. The reason I did not put deal or no deal on the list is because that whole thing where they make an offer to you and they act like the woman up there, the silhouette of the woman and she's on the phone
Starting point is 00:42:32 and she's talking to Howie, I don't like all that stuff that I know is just all for show. You know what I'm saying? There was something about the simplicity of this person in a chair and these questions and a few different things you could do to get the answer and you either keep going up or you go.
Starting point is 00:42:51 It was over sensationalized but it wasn't like a farce. It wasn't a farce and there's a farce in Deal or No Deal. And also. But I gotta give it to Howie because I really think that he was amazing on that show. Oh yeah. I mean, absolutely. It's an honorable mention, but it's not in my top five. Yeah, I didn't put it anywhere,
Starting point is 00:43:08 but I gotta give it to how, his, like the winking drama that he brought to it. Well, and Howie is a genius at playing into that thing. So good, man. He was, I mean, and the fact that like a comedian coming in and doing that, but the comedy was in how dramatic he was. You know, he actually wasn't funny
Starting point is 00:43:32 in the way you thought he was gonna be funny. He was funny in a dramatic way, you know? Yeah, but I think it might be funny for you to watch it because you know that he's acting with these people too. That might not be the way everyone interacts with. No, of course not. But it worked on that level. So, and of course he knew that.
Starting point is 00:43:54 So anyway, and I didn't, again, nothing against Meredith. I'm talking about the Regis Philbin version because Regis was funny. He was first. And I just don't, she wasn't trying to be funny. I don't recall. She was just trying to be nice. I don't know what she was.
Starting point is 00:44:10 You know? I'm staying out of that one. But I'm just saying, she wasn't trying to be funny. Regis is a comedian. And so there's just something about how you need. I think she was funny. You need that voice in there. I don't think she was trying to be funny. Was she trying to be funny?
Starting point is 00:44:23 Did you watch that? No, she's not a comedian, she's a host. There's so few female game show hosts, like all of that 70s and 80s bravado stuff which now is almost intolerable. I think it's like, so I'll give it to Meredith in terms of being a champion of like. That, and of course, you're trying to make me look bad.
Starting point is 00:44:46 No I'm sorry, I know you weren't. It has nothing to do with her. You just said that she wasn't funny to you, which is fine. No she's not trying to be funny. She's not trying to be funny, she's an anchor. She's a news anchor, she's not a comedian. So I'm saying that you need a comedian in that role to give the full package for that show in my mind. Once she got rid of that, it was like I'm not that you need a comedian in that role to give the full package for that show in my mind.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Once you got rid of that, it was like, I'm not interested anymore. My number three, I might be stealing your number one here. Okay. My number three is Family Feud. That's my number one. That's your number one? But I don't think it is my number one. That's your number one? Mm-hmm. But I don't think it is your number one
Starting point is 00:45:25 because I'm saying Family Feud hosted by Richard Dawson. Okay, Family Feud hosted by Richard Dawson was awesome. Family Feud hosted by Ray Combs was awesome. I don't know about that. Family Feud hosted by the guy who was the beard on Home Improvement. That's not. Not good. That's an improper use of the term, the bearded guy.
Starting point is 00:45:50 The bearded guy is better. But and then Steve freaking Harvey? Steve Harvey is amazing. The reason that this is my number one is because it has stood the test of time. Yeah. And it also has stood the test of the internet. Family Feud, unlike any other game show, creates amazing fodder for tantalizing internet compilations
Starting point is 00:46:18 of answers and responses for the host. It's great. And it's just always fun. It's fun, but you're not just getting it from professional comedians like you do on Hollywood Squares, you're getting it from normal people really racking their brains to come up with what three people out of 100 said.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Like, that's when it gets interesting. Do you believe that, by the way? Do you believe they're actually going out and they're asking 100 people stuff? There are people that do surveys, man. I think sometimes those people who they ask are writers. Well, sure. That's what I believe. And it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:46:58 It just says 100 people. It's just, yeah, they rack their brains and they trap them in these places where they have to say embarrassing, sexually charged things. Well, and they've, in the last decade or so, they really have leaned into the innuendo. Like, that's, and they're actually doing it
Starting point is 00:47:16 for the internet clips. In fact, sometimes Steve Harvey will be like, you're gonna be on YouTube. You know what I'm saying? Like, he says it on the- And he's great. The way that he, he is great, man. That's his place, that's his calling.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And there's just something about the group, this is another thing, the group effect. Like you gotta come as a family, so you have to like bring the weird brother or the weird uncle, like you have to. You gotta have five people. And you put the weird one- The freaking Kardashians went on there with Kanye. you put the weird one down at the end.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Did that really happen? Yes, it did. I can't even believe that happened. It's the best game show, man. When Snoop was on there. Oh, that's a clip you can keep watching. Yeah, exactly. So great.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Unlike Kanye and the Kardashians go on Wheel of Fortune? I mean you can't really, I guess. I think they went on more than one. Kim and Kanye could go on together, but there's a reason that celebrities are clamoring. And I add myself to that list of people who I wanna go on that frickin' show. Let's face off.
Starting point is 00:48:22 My family is your family. Okay. You got one extra. No, I need an extra. I've only got four people in my family. I have to bring the dog. You're gonna have to bring somebody. Anyway, it passes the test of if it's on,
Starting point is 00:48:38 I'm gonna watch it. And I think it depends so much on- I'm not gonna seek it out, but if it's on, I'll watch it. No, but that's, you flip through and you find something. I was at a restaurant. I'll seek it out on YouTube. I was at a restaurant recently, and when we were skiing, and like,
Starting point is 00:48:56 this restaurant was playing the Family Feud. I was like, this is what they gotta figure out. I don't wanna see necessarily like the latest baseball game. Show me Family Feud, man. And it's so, the host has, this is another reason I like it, is that I always secretly wanted to be a game show host and see myself in that role, and I see the way somebody like Steve Harvey does it,
Starting point is 00:49:20 and I'm just like, he's got it. He's doing it. The way he's interacting with these people, he's got it, he's doing it. The way he's interacting with these people, it's perfect. And so I kinda, I love watching that process happen. Family Feud, FF number one. I love the way that those answers used to turn manually. It was very satisfying. What do they do now?
Starting point is 00:49:42 It's just screen. Boring. It used to go ding and turn over. Yeah, it was very satisfying the way it would work. All right, so I need your number three. No, we need, oh. Number two. You need my number two.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Jeopardy. Jeopardy. Now, why do you like Jeopardy? Jeopardy's not on my list, it's not on my honorable mentions, but it is a state, whenever I would go to Nanny's, they would always be watching it. I mean, there's so many people that watch it.
Starting point is 00:50:12 For completely different reasons, obviously. What do you mean obviously? It's completely different than Family Feud. Oh, oh. It is so dry. Yes. It is just dry. Yes. It is just smart people. You have to be very smart to qualify to be on Jeopardy.
Starting point is 00:50:31 You can't just, there's no, you don't just pay a fee or something. You have to pass a test. But why? To be on Jeopardy. I knew one guy who was almost on, but I haven't known anybody who's on. There was a rumor for a long time
Starting point is 00:50:45 that my granddad was gonna be on Jeopardy. I remember that back when I was a kid. It was like, Grandpa McLaughlin is gonna, he's gonna be on Jeopardy, he might be on Jeopardy. I was like, okay, cool. I didn't like it as a kid. Why, I don't understand the broad appeal of a show that is so heady.
Starting point is 00:51:03 That is the appeal. I think it's because you get the answers just as quick right after the question so you don't really play along. Like I remember you play along. Hold on, the appeal is trivia. It's the only game that's based on, predicting what 100 people are gonna say
Starting point is 00:51:23 in a survey to a question is not trivia. But Jeopardy is trivia. It's like this category about Greek mythology. And you're like, ah. You learn fascinating stuff. What do I remember about that? And I think everyone is accessing their knowledge base. And I think there's just a lot of people that,
Starting point is 00:51:43 A, like to play along with that to be like, well, what category would I pick and how much do I know about this and can I get the answer before they get the answer without, you know, in Groundhog Day, having seen it a million times. But also, seeing somebody do what a guy like Ken Jennings, and apparently there's a guy that just did it again.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I haven't been watching. Breaking the records of winnings, yes. Seeing somebody dominate in that way just because they are just smarter than other people is something that people like to watch. I like to watch, that's why it's number two. The way that he's winning so much, and this has been done before,
Starting point is 00:52:20 is that they skip around in categories to keep everybody on their heels and they try to find the daily doubles early knowing that they're not gonna be the low values and then they're really smart on what to wager. You can wager everything you've got and take risks earlier and really assert, acquire a big lead and if you don't get it right, you can recover
Starting point is 00:52:47 because you're still in charge of the game and everyone's on their heels. And so that's kind of a known. It's a known technique now. Yeah, I'm just fascinated with people who aren't like heady thinkers still like to witness trivia answers. It's a different, you know, I think that's what it teaches me is that like,
Starting point is 00:53:15 you don't have to be like a reader or like, honestly a very thoughtful person to really enjoy bite-sized trivia. It's a different thing. Well, I actually think that most people who like it do think of themselves as, they like to, whether they are or they aren't, they are interested in thinking about
Starting point is 00:53:40 where they stack up against other people. I think that that's the appeal. And I think that's most people. I think most people, when they, again, I think most people are relatively competitive. I think that it's just like, okay, you're gonna ask a question? I'm compelled, my human nature compels me
Starting point is 00:53:58 to give you an answer and to try to give you that answer before somebody else does. I was laying in bed, I think I was laying in bed, and this thought popped into my head, I don't know why, maybe I was reading something on Reddit about Jeopardy, and I was like, unrelated to what I was reading, I was like, why is it formatted that you answer, you don't answer a question,
Starting point is 00:54:20 you respond to an answer with a question? So I looked that up. Because I couldn't formulate a guess. I couldn't figure out why that would be the case. Could you formulate a question? So according to the Smithsonian, in 1963, television host and erstwhile actor, Merv Griffin was flying back to New York City
Starting point is 00:54:41 with his wife, Julan, after a weekend visit in her parents in Michigan. Didn't need to add that, but they did. Merv was looking at notes for a new game show and Julan asked if it was one of the knowledge-based games she liked, so is it a trivia game? He said, since the $64,000 question, the network won't let you do those anymore, he said.
Starting point is 00:55:05 The rigging scandals in 1950s, like that movie Quiz Show, which is a very good movie, the scandals had killed off American Quiz Show seemingly for good. And he said they suspect you of giving them the answers. And she said something to the effect of, well, why don't you give them the answers and people said something to the effect of, well why don't you give him the answers and people make up the questions.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And he's like thinking about it, he's like okay, the answer is 5,280 and he thought for a moment, the question is how many feet in a mile? And he's like the answer is 79 Wistful Vista. And then the response was where did Fibber McGee and Molly live? I don't know who Fibber McGee is, this is in 1963. Those two simple questions changed TV history.
Starting point is 00:55:55 So there you have it, it was just a simple response but it was such a, it was a hook and then I'm like thinking, well, if you give an answer, you could ask multiple questions to get that answer. So then I'm realizing that you've got to, you also have to satisfy the category. Right. So you gotta satisfy the clue and the category.
Starting point is 00:56:21 So if it's like, there was one that was, Patrick Roy and Hope Solo played this position. And the category was 10 letter words. 10 letter words? Yeah, and the answer. Goalkeeper, what is a goalkeeper? Wrong. What is a goalie?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Goalkeeper is 10 letters. But they said it had to contain the word 10, so the correct answer was goaltender. Oh, it had to contain, oh, that's great. But they said that. So there's my little trivia associated with Jeopardy. That's great though, what you just did is great. That's what makes it so great.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Yeah, I mean, and I don't think, It's a mind game, man. When they were brainstorming it on the plane, I don't think they knew the full ramifications. Sometimes you're just like, what if we give the answer and you have to come up with a question, and then you play it out. Which ultimately, they're just asking a question
Starting point is 00:57:16 and you're giving the answer, but they just reverse the, sort of the pretense. Now, of course, We gotta talk about Alex. Alex Trebek has got pancreatic cancer. As of the recording of course, Alex Trebek has got pancreatic cancer. As of the recording of this. Send much love to Alex. Alec.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Oh. I like. Send it to the right person. Alec. He's got pancreatic cancer which of course is like, you know, what? Alex. It is Alex. you know, what? Alex. It is Alex.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah. Yeah, hold on. It's not Alec. It's Alec Baldwin. I was sending it to the right person and then you fooled me. Alex Trebek. Yeah, I was like, I kept thinking. Here's the thing. Yeah, it is Alex. Here's the thing, up until literally,
Starting point is 00:58:05 like I've never thought that his name was Alec until like a split second ago when you said Alex. I've always known him to be Alex Trebek. I just have a way of making true things sound false. You made it sound wrong. That's a game show. Making true things sound false. He's got pancreatic cancer,
Starting point is 00:58:24 which is like, very, very low survival rate. He made a heart wrenching announcement video. They haven't said who's gonna replace him. Well what's the latest though because I don't know what the status of his health is right now. I don't know the status of his health but in terms of, they're not saying who would replace him.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I think that they're keeping all that under wraps. Maybe a guy named Alec. I feel like if he has a son, I think his son should do it. And I think that his son should look just like him but have the mustache that he had in the 80s. And we don't know, I mean, he could beat this illness but he's, I mean, he's going to retire at some point regardless. Sure.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Rumors are saying that Gayle King will replace him. Somehow that name's floating around. What does it say? He signed off for the summer, but he intends on coming back. Because he's saying, you know, I'm gonna beat this. But then even when he retires, like, you know, we wish Alex the best
Starting point is 00:59:16 and we believe he can do it. I wouldn't wanna host. The way that you said it somehow tricked my brain into thinking that it was Alex. That's incredible. You have a gift, man. Thank you. But we've covered your number.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I gotta go with my number two. Oh, your number two. My number two, because Hollywood Squared is my number one. My number two is Press Your Luck. Because that was my favorite show. No whammies, no whammies, no whammies, stop! Yeah, that was an honorable mention for me. It was very manic.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Peter Tamarkin was the host. And this guy had the slyest grin. It was like he knew something. And I never figured out what it was. And I couldn't stop watching because I thought maybe I'd figure it out. Like he knew something about life and it was very amusing to him.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Like something about this like weird bemused bravado was just, I don't know, I just thought he was the coolest guy. Tarkin. Tamarkin. Tamarkin. Peter Tamarkin. I can't picture him right now. And they would have, they'd have the animations
Starting point is 01:00:26 on the screen where the whammies would come out or the. Yeah those little devil looking characters. Devil guys would come out. Tasmanian devils. They would do different stuff. And we talked on GMM about, one of our most viewed episodes ever was like, Game Show Cheaters and the guy on Price is Right
Starting point is 01:00:44 who was the cheater, he died recently and now he's back in the news. Flanagan sent that to us. I don't know why that video kept getting like tens of millions of views on our channel, it's crazy. People just like to know about cheaters. But we also talked about the guy who cheated on Press Your Luck and like he knew the patterns
Starting point is 01:01:02 and could like stop at the right time. I just like the energy of it. It was just, and they would like, they would make it look like the contestants and the host were perched on top of this huge board. Yeah, it was the first game show that had, I think they did this with bumper stumpers too if I remember, the display of it was like a picture
Starting point is 01:01:24 and picture thing. Yeah, it was like a picture in picture thing. Yeah it was just. Very interesting. But basically it's my number two just because of Peter Tamarkin's vibe, the animations, and just the overall, just the energy. I don't even remember what the point of the show was. The vibe of the show. It was just like. What was the point
Starting point is 01:01:41 of the show? I don't know. Win money. But you were pressing your luck and you were like, I'm gonna go again, I'm gonna hit this thing and then. You would, it would build up, the pressure would build up in terms of like, are you gonna lose all this money? Okay, so that's your number two. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:57 So we don't agree on the number one, you said Hollywood Squares, I said Family Feud. Honorable mentions that we didn't mention that you may remember, Street Smarts. Do you remember Street Smarts? This is like an early. That was like on Fox. Early 2000s.
Starting point is 01:02:12 That seemed trashy to me, but I don't remember what it is. It was, well it was a game, there was a host, can't remember his name, who would go out on the street and do man on the street interviews with people and then there was two contestants and they had to predict if this person was like, of these three contestants that we just introduced you to, which one of them will know who this is?
Starting point is 01:02:35 And they hold up a picture and it's like Frank Sinatra. And it's just like, okay, which one of these people, only one of them knew who Frank Sinatra was, which one was, and so then you pick one of the three people. So it's profiling. And then they show you and they say, and just for fun, let's see what Carla said. And she doesn't know who Frank Sinatra is,
Starting point is 01:02:53 so she says like the president or something like that. Man on the street comedy. So it's making fun of stupid people, which is like what now Jimmy Kimmel has turned into like a bit with his man on the street stuff where it's like what do people know about current politics or whatever, it was very trashy.
Starting point is 01:03:08 One of my honorable mentions was supermarket sweep. I don't know why as a kid I had any business being interested in supermarket sweep. It's funny because you were so averse at spending money and have always been but yet you wanted to see somebody else go do it. Oh yeah, wish fulfillment. Like oh my gosh, if I had a cart in 90 seconds,
Starting point is 01:03:28 what would I get? And I think on Nickelodeon, there was a show where you would go into like Toys R Us and do the same thing, you go in a toy store. That makes sense. But yeah, I would watch the adult version, Supermarket Sweep. Speaking of Nickelodeon, Double Dare was on there.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Yeah, Double Dare. I would say my top five, but it's so iconic. My honorable mention was Funhaus, the Fox television show ripoff of Double Dare with the host had red hair and he's been the host of other things too. Can you Google the host of Funhaus? I never even heard of it.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Just picture a rip off of Double Dare. And that beat Double Dare for you? I think it had bigger obstacle courses that were more like, it was more like American Ninja Warrior in some ways, I think in the final. JD Roth was the host. And then I had the newlywed show and the dating game
Starting point is 01:04:25 kind of before our time, but so reruns and then those clips pop up a bunch, but it's just one of those things that like endless fodder for compilations. Tic Tac Doe. Never heard of it. Wink Martindale hosted that. It was Tic Tac Toe like Hollywood Squares,
Starting point is 01:04:41 but it was different in ways I can't remember. But Wink Martindale, I mean he hosted a bunch of shows and he was hokey but I liked him. You got any other honorable mentions? You're done? No, I'm done with my mentions. Oh you're done? Shout out to $25,000 Pyramid, Dick Clark.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I like that, you'd have a celebrity paired It's a good show. with a contestant and it would be things like Crystal Ball, Magic 8 Ball. Round things. Magic round things. Fortune Teller. Magic things.
Starting point is 01:05:19 We suck at this. A prognosticator. A pass. Prophecy. It was things that predict the future. Things that predict the future. Yeah. And then some people would be really good at it.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Not us. There were some celebrities who, they didn't have anything better to do so they stayed on the show. And then they would get really good at it. Right, it's good. Haven't they tried to bring that back, right? I don't know, but they should, again.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I think that's all of my honorable mentions. Concentration, that was the last one that I added. It was like a matching game and you would remove matching panels and it would reveal a pictograph underneath that was like a phrase. And you had to solve it, solve the phrase using the pictographs. I love that game for some reason.
Starting point is 01:06:19 So that's it. Yeah, those sort of like simple games. So we agree on Family Feud. Simple games like that just won't, they won't put them on television anymore. Well there's a whole network. They'll put them on television in Australia, you know, based on what I saw when I was there.
Starting point is 01:06:37 So there you have it. Our top game shows of all times. Let us know, all time, we've only had one time. Go to hashtag Ear Biscuits, let us know your favorite game show and tell us why. Maybe it'll change our minds. Maybe it'll remind us of something or give us a reason or a piece of trivia that will make us change our top five.
Starting point is 01:06:59 And Link, do you have a wreck? You have a wreck in effect? I got a wreck in effect. Since you're done listening to this podcast, maybe you want another podcast to listen to before Ear Biscuits rolls around next week because you're fully caught up. I'm gonna recommend a podcast
Starting point is 01:07:17 where you can listen to my wife talk for an hour. Wow. Our good friend Mike has a podcast called Ask Science Mike. I highly recommend his podcast in general. But episode 180 called Living with a Brain Injury with Christy Neal, who's my wife. I don't know that I've ever actually shared specifically that almost three years ago, I don't know that I've ever actually shared specifically
Starting point is 01:07:45 that almost three years ago, Christy suffered a brain injury. She suffers from post concussion syndrome as a result of a concussion she had almost three years ago, which dramatically changed her life as well as had ramifications for us as a family. I invited, you know, we've been talking about when was the right time maybe for her to come on Ear Biscuits and talk about it.
Starting point is 01:08:14 But it was, she didn't really, she didn't wanna do it because of the video component, honestly. She wasn't quite ready for that. You know, she doesn't love being on the videos at this point. But so Ask Science Mike, check that out, episode 180. Especially if you know someone who's had a concussion or has suffered from an invisible injury
Starting point is 01:08:39 that impacts your life, I think there's lots of takeaways. And I'm super proud of her for everything she shared. I think it's tremendously power, it can be really powerful to someone who's going through it or know someone who is, so check that out. And I think that's all I have to say about it this time. I do think that it's at some point, maybe she'll come on here and we can unpack it further.
Starting point is 01:09:05 But that's a great place to start, so check it out. And with that being said, we will see you again. Or you will hear us again, or hear and see us again, however you enjoy this, next week. In the meantime, connect with us. The password is hashtag Ear Biscuits. No whammies!

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