Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 223: Our Holiday Break Highs and Lows | Ear Biscuits Ep. 223

Episode Date: January 13, 2020

Tis the season of new traditions, medical scares, and murderous thoughts. Listen to R&L catch up on everything that went down on their holiday break on this episode of Ear Biscuits! (1:06) - a big announcement for next week's EB (7:12) - L's disturbing story (17:05) - R's trip to Asheville (19:46) - R's new annual tradition (25:56) - R skiing in Big Bear with Shepherd (29:11) - the debate: skiing is an extreme sport (34:34) - reality TV and murderous thoughts (40:06) - L's trip to Sedona (43:39) - building a new holiday tradition (48:09) - an incident on the plain (51:46) - L's medical scare (1:06:00) - L's rec in effect - The Epley Maneuver To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Rhett. And I'm Link. This week at the Round Table of Dim Lighting, we're gonna share with each other and with you our winter breaks. What the heck happened on our winter breaks? Because we weren't together. Something happened to you because you sound different.

Well yeah, I'll kick it off with that. I think that you know when we go on our breaks and we do stuff separate that Ear Biscuits is the place where we come back together. Yeah. And we share. In fact. We just give each other an update. Just a second ago, I was telling you

about something that I was going to tell you about and I was like dropping my audio out as I was telling you so that I couldn't, that I would wait to tell you now. It's like. I didn't notice, what do you mean dropping your audio? I was basically like saying, you so-and-so, you know, the equivalent of like, and then the so-and-so happened to the so-and-so, you know.

Oh, you were editing yourself so you could tell me for reals now. Right. Yeah, so that's what we're gonna do. But I do wanna say, next week, we're gonna start. Oh yeah, next week. We're gonna start something that, how would you even describe what we're gonna do?

Well, yeah, we're going to devote a number of episodes to a topic that we've been, just in the back of our minds, there's been something that's just been percolating for maybe for years. And I mean, the thing that we're gonna talk about for, you know, it's been decades. A lifetime.

A lifetime, decades. We're gonna share about some stuff that we've never shared before, ever. With any audience. Publicly. So we've decided that we wanna talk about it here on Ear Biscuits next week. 2020, man.

I know that's just a big tease, but. It is a big tease. That's what you gotta do in this business, Link. Man, I'm looking at my watch because I'm seeing if my heart rate's going up. Hold on. You know, I'm kind of gathering my thoughts, but they're not fully gathered.

But your heart rate has gone up at weird times. We were doing something the other day, just like having a discussion amongst like four people and all of a sudden you got your alarm and I was like what? I didn't even say what it was but you knew that it was an abnormal heart rate? Yeah, because you've just gone off before.

I think it has to do with what I'm dealing with. So just to put a closer on the teaser and then, yeah, so starting next week for a few episodes, it's a. TBD. It's something that we're gonna, that we've made the decision we're gonna talk about. And if, maybe even if I didn't, if we weren't saying it right now,

we might even change our minds. I don't think so. No, no. But now we're definitely not. We are committed to this. But first, let's catch up on our breaks. I'm sick, now. Really?

My friggin' winter break has been bookended by sickness. Two distinct types of sickness. Now, the one that happened on the front side, I'm gonna wait to tell you about because it was just, it was strange. And I do know about that one. So strange. It was so strange, you could not tell me about that one.

Right. It's one of those things that like, but you know what, when I listen to you tell it, I'm gonna seem like I've never heard it before. You don't have to do that, but it's, yeah, it was just so strange, it's worth hearing twice. Right? Sure.

I mean, this version will be a little bit embellished because you've had time. And then on the, if I can remember it, I mean, I thought that it was putting my vacation in jeopardy and it was, but then I was able to go on my vacation, which was enjoying the holidays here in Los Angeles with my immediate family and then we went to Mammoth Lakes.

Mammoth Mountain isn't Mammoth Lakes, right? It's where you went last year to go skiing. Usually. I followed in your footsteps to Mammoth. isn't Mammoth Lakes, right? It's where you went last year to go skiing. Usually. I followed in your footsteps. Usually. To Mammoth. We Californians just say Mammoth. Well, I went to Mammoth. Amateurs who have been there at one time say Mammoth Lakes.

And let's see, we came back on a Sunday and then the previous Saturday, my last day of skiing, I came down with the sickness that now, man, I hope I'm getting over it. I hope I'm not getting it at all. Having come back to the office, I've heard that a lot of people have had this, I mean it's just a head cold.

Some people have had like bronchitis, some people had other things. Christy had it before vacation. Then Lando had it. And then I got, when Lando was just getting over it, dadgummit, he gave it to me. Yeah, makes you hate him, doesn't it? And so now, and I will say,

it's like the worst head cold I've ever had. The worst sore throat I have ever had in my life. I feel like I need to wear like a mask. And I didn't have a fever and I'm almost positive it wasn't strep throat. I didn't go to see anybody because I'm stubborn. And I did see gradual improvement, but my throat was hurting so bad.

I mean, it was like almost in tears, kind of like pain. That was probably strep throat. And then I was like, you know what? Like a sore throat there. Let's go get ramen. That painful? I'd better to be strep throat. Better to make me feel better to get ramen.

It does usually resolve itself. Well, there was no fever. Sometimes it turns into a deadly disease. That's what happens with strep. I went and got ramen and I said, you know what? Last time I got ramen here, they called it spicy, but it wasn't, so make it a little more spicy. Oh, that was a mistake.

That was a mistake. And I ate the whole bowl, but the first 15 minutes of eating, it was like I was in torture. Come to find out when you have a raw sore throat, you don't wanna eat spicy foods, y'all. I don't know what I was thinking. You wanna eat ramen, ramen would've been perfect. Ramen but non-spicy, why did I ask for it more spicy?

It was so stupid. You know what, ramen is backwards. Moron, it's not really. Yeah. And like. You know what, ramen is backwards. Uh. Moron, it's not really. It's close though. But it seems like it would be. If you would've just said it was, I would've believed you.

It's almost. My brain, my head is floating above my neck because of this decongestant I'm on. I can't, take advantage of me, man, I can't think straight. It's actually namar is what it is backwards. Before we went to get ramen, I had like a kombucha in the car because you know, you've been talking about all this kombucha you've been drinking. I've been drinking so much kombucha. to get Robin, I had like a kombucha in the car because you know, you've been talking about

all this kombucha you've been drinking. I've been drinking so much kombucha. I'm like, I'm drinking a kombucha and it made me feel better. I have a mother in my stomach. And that can happen. That can happen. I know, I want it.

You don't want that. It's the only way I can give birth. It's like a yeast ball. You're gonna crap out a yeast ball? What a, you think that's gross, what I'm about to tell you is really gross. Oh gosh, great. Well, I'm drinking a kombucha and I'm like,

I think I should gargle with this. And that was horrible too. Like every, I think all of my instincts did nothing but made it worse. You're starting 2020 off on the wrong foot, man. With a lot of bad ideas. Yeah, and I think I'm getting over it, but this morning I got up and you know,

you're up for a few minutes and things start to drain and start to settle and you can start to breathe through your nose a little bit. You hadn't been nettying any? I did some netty pottying. I took Jade outside and when I'm out there with her, like I had walked down the stairs out the front, I got enough body movement that like there was some drainage

and I like, I hocked up a loogie, okay? And I'm outside waiting for her to pee and so I spit it out. I'm sorry this is gross but it's just, it's what happens. And I looked down and it was. It's what happens, you don't have to tell, a lot of things happened to me today that I'm not gonna tell you about.

Well I'm telling you, it was bloody. But I could tell by the way that it came up that it was like, it was a weird consistency. So I bent down and I picked it up. And it was. What is wrong with you? You know if you like have a grape and you like squeeze the inner side of a grape

and all you're left with is the skin of the grape, that's what I spit up but it was blood colored. I freaking spit up a scab the size of a grape that came out of my nose. You had? Like somewhere in between, like the back of my nose at the top of my throat where it was hurting the worst.

Apparently I have a wound. Yeah you had strep throat, man. Or something worse. You wanna see it, I have it right here. No. It makes me think of that scene. Hold on, you took a picture of it? I didn't, no, I was gonna pull it out of my pocket.

The actual grape. I'm sorry for grossing y'all out, but I actually feel a little better now that I've told you about it. It made me think of that scene in Buddy System season two where I burn your tongue with coffee and then you can no longer be a professional food taster but then at the end, whenever I fail you in the tournament,

you start talking funny and you realize that your tongue scab is coming off and you pull like a big scab off of your tongue. That was so gross. And we originally scripted it so that when you pulled the scab off of your tongue scab is coming off and you pull like a big scab off of your tongue. That was so gross. And we originally scripted it so that when you pulled the scab off of your tongue, you were then gonna stretch it out and tie it around your head like a headband. Yeah, yeah.

That's what we scripted. It was a little too gross. And then we got notes that it was a little too much. Kinda like my story. The tongue scab alone was enough. So I think I'm well on my way to recovery now that I spit out that scab. You've been hanging out with me all morning.

Yeah, I wish you had told me that. I still feel like shit and I'm just, you know, no bones about it. But I'm here, I'm here for y'all. Somehow I've avoided this and it just, I just have this impending sense of doom because everybody's gotten sick and I just haven't gotten sick and I just.

Yeah, you'll get it and you'll hate it because it doesn't go away quickly. It's miserable, man. It's miserable. Okay, well thanks for that, Link. I feel like we can go home now. I'm sorry. You know, I can't not be me.

And I think there's something to learn from that. Well, but I'm gonna go back to what I said. Again, I mean, I could describe some bodily things that happened to me today, this week, that I just kinda keep to myself. You know, I appreciate you being vulnerable and I appreciate you being open about your experiences but I mean things have come out of me as well.

It's one of those sicknesses where. But it's kinda just between me and myself. You know what I mean? You know when you're in the worst of it, you're like if I ever get better, when I get better, because I believe I'm gonna get better, I'm gonna be so grateful for feeling well. You don't follow my Twitter apparently.

That's what this just represents. Really, you tweeted about this? I tweeted this very concept. It doesn't work, right? Then you get well and you're like, oh yeah, I'm just normal. There's no gratefulness. Yeah, you think about how grateful you're gonna be

when you're not sick. That's why when I get home, I'm gonna go find that scab and I'm gonna take it inside and it's gonna be a memento. You're gonna take it for granted. You're gonna take it for granted just like everybody does. I carry it around in my pocket. And then you get sick again. I'm never gonna forget.

I'm never gonna forget. How was your vacation? Well, let me see how many loogies I hocked up. It was great. You know what, actually, it kind of It was It was okay What was the last thing That filled you with wonder That took you away

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So join us every Friday wherever you get your podcasts and watch full video episodes on Crunchyroll or on the Crunchyroll YouTube channel. What'd you do? It wasn't a vacation. Can I just say that? Because people say, how was your Christmas vacation? Let's call it a winter break for you.

I'm like, and it wasn't even much of a break. Oh. I don't know how to. It was a break from work. It was, but I'm a workaholic, Link, which is something that I already knew, but I typically have, December rolls around.

Yeah. And there's like a bunch of things that sort of build up. Oh yeah, I'm gonna do that over a break. Yeah, I'll do that over a break. I'll do that over a break. And I had a list of things. I didn't get to any of them. I mean, maybe like one thing.

And so I actually. And now you feel bad about it. That's not right. Well no, I had this, I discussed this with my therapist last night actually. I'll discuss it with you now. But this sense of anxiety that was building because I wasn't getting to the things and I was like oh what's gonna happen is

break's gonna get over, be over, and then I'm gonna have all this stuff that I gotta do right at the top of the year and I don't wanna do that and I'm anxious about it. I mean, yeah and that's what happened to me when I got back yesterday into the office, that's why my watch went off, my heart rate went through the roof for a second

because we were just talking about something that I felt like we were losing control of. Well, the thing that I realized yesterday is when we had a talking about something that I felt like we were losing control of. Well, the thing that I realized yesterday is when we had a conversation about it, that's when I started feeling better. Because it started feeling like, okay, now things are actually happening and now people are saying, well, I'm gonna do this

and I'm gonna do this and you're gonna do this. And it's like some clarity came. Yeah, you and I'm. No work was done. I'm good. Let me just be very clear, no work was actually done. It was just meetings. I'm good at just pretending that there's nothing to be done until you bring it up and gain clarity

and start to feel better. What you're doing is you're transferring all the stress to me. That's what happened. But I also, I love my family. Let me be clear about this. I also, I love my family. Let me be clear about this. But when you are the one in the family who has moved away

and you come back, you gotta see everybody and you gotta see everybody kind of like and your time ends up kind of getting scheduled. And there's nothing relaxing about it. It's not like going on a vacation is what I'm getting at. And so it doesn't have the same sort of emotional effect that vacation has. You going somewhere?

I just took my jacket off, don't let me distract you. No, you're dressed like you're going somewhere. Oh. You got an interview? I thought if I put on a button up, it would make me feel better and seem less sick. I'm freaking glassy eyed and tail droopy. You know, I'm just trying to muster some sort of reason

to go on. If you are going to an interview, I suggest a tie. Just don't do that. But Jesse and I did have a little bit of a break. So of course we were in North Carolina for almost two weeks seeing everybody. And the good news is that everyone's close together so and I stay in the same place.

So it's like when you guys go back, you have to go to all these different places. So we don't have to do that. North Carolina. But we were there, like I said, almost two weeks and then right after Christmas, Jesse and I decided, well we had already decided this, we're gonna go get a little time away,

we're gonna go to Asheville. Leave the kids with the rabbits? Which is like Nashville without an N. And it's the place that if you live in Los Angeles and you say you're from North Carolina, they're like, Asheville? It's like the only thing that people know about North Carolina in LA is Asheville?

Cool spot. That's because it's super cool but no. Mountains. You don't know anybody who lives there but it's a cool place to go. Went at that Grove Park Inn, that big old historic hotel with a giant spa, got my massage on, et cetera. You stayed there.

Yeah. Brilliant plan. You left the kids with like cousins. I don't even know, listen, I lost track, I'm not kidding, I lost track of my children, both of them. But they were in- For multiple days. They were under care of relatives. I assume so.

Okay, well how was Ashville? And I'm not joking about this, especially the 15 year old. Like at one point I saw him and then like six days later I saw him again. I was like, are you brushing your teeth? Like I just, are you taking care of yourself? Who's feeding you?

I can guarantee you he looks better than you do. I mean, you look like you rolled off a... Man, look at that, your hair, man. When you went home, did everybody have to say, have to give an assessment? Interestingly, no. I think they just are a little worried. Everybody just kind of no longer made eye contact.

Yeah, they're just a little worried and won't mention it. Like caveman. I mean, even when I saw it yesterday, I was like, took my breath away. I've lost, well thanks, Link. I've lost a little control. It actually has become, it was a burden. I will say, I don't wanna talk about my hair at all really,

but the only thing I'll say is that it has become a burden. You fit in in Asheville. We have gotten to the burden stage. It doesn't seem like you're burdened at all and I thought that was the point. It takes a lot of time to make it look like I don't care. Okay. So we went to Asheville and you may remember from,

we had a great time, the two of us, you may remember last year, if you happen to be a, Long time listener? A student of my Instagram. In 2020, I'm not gonna use the term follower for any of my social media, I'm just gonna use the term student. And so I got a belt with my name on it last year.

This is what we're talking about. Yeah, okay. I remember that belt. Jessie and I. You've been wearing that belt all year. Every single day. With few exceptions I wore that belt with my name on it. It hit me about November of last year.

You know what, I should do a belt again this year. And then it was just like, I should do a belt every year. A belt every year should be my new thing. Do you know anybody else who does that? I saw some. I probably do but they don't think it's worth sharing. I saw what they call some white space in the belt every year, you know, area.

So, okay. So I thought I was gonna go down to Olvera Street where they, that's where the guy made my belt last year. Here in LA, not Asheville. But I, you know, I failed to do that because of all the stuff we had to do and whatnot that I was anxious about that I didn't actually do. Don't blame it on me.

And, but there was a very fine leather shop. I would give them a shout out, but I already forgot the name. Oh. It's next to the Early Girl Eatery in Asheville, which is also a really good place to eat. Good spot, yeah. Jenna knows about that.

We ate there when we did the pilot for Commercial Kings. Commercial Kings. Well, couple doors down from that is this leather place and the dude has a large assortment of antique belt buckles along with all the leathery that he will do. the dude has a large assortment of antique belt buckles, along with all the leathery that he will do. I don't know if that's a word, I didn't read many of the signs. But I was like, hell yeah,

I'm gonna get a belt buckle this time, not just a belt. I'm gonna get a belt with my name on it and a belt buckle. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're watching this, you'll have to wait if you're listening. But this is my new belt. That's my new belt buckle. Oh. Look at that.

That is a wooden. Should I put the microphone up to it? If you wanna hear what it sounds like, that's a wooden belt buckle with a desert scene on it. Try not to show any skin. Tuck in your sweatshirt. Tuck in the sweatshirt. That's good, happy trail. I'm gonna take it off and show it. Tuck in the sweatshirt. That's good. Happy trail.

I'm gonna take it off in short. I'm gonna let you examine it. Hold on, this is bringing back flashbacks of my babysitter's husband when he'd come home from work. So, this is a little bit... He would just come home from work and take off his belt. This is a little bit different. Paul Taylor custom sandals and belts. Paul's tailored custom sandals and belts. Paul's tailored custom sandals and belts

sounds about right. Custom sandals? And belts. So now you may remember. Let me, can I describe what I've seen because they're frustrating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, what Rhett has taken off from his waist

is a warm belt. Matter of fact, it's hot to the touch on the back of the buckle. Yeah, yeah. It's a metal buckle. I've been thinking real hard. And it's got wood in there, I think. That could be jasper. I think it's wood. It's wood, man.

There's a saguaro cactus. I went to the wood section. There is a freaking setting sun over the Monument Valley-esque desert formation. It's a desert scene on an oval belt buckle on a leather belt. And let me tell you about the design on the belt. I can't remember the name of this, what this is, but.

Suns and Sagebrush. It's called Tooling. Now last year it was really haphazard and he did it really quick. This guy had to mail me this belt because he was like, it's gonna take me, you know, I can't finish this today. Because this is like this thing,

they like roll it through this thing and it's got this, it's sort of this cactus theme, but then when you get to the middle, let's check out what I did there. It seems that Rhett has commissioned the writing of something. It's hard to see because it's in old English. But what does it say, Link?

Zo-ree-zo. Zo-ree-zo. Zo-ree, oh no no no. Z-O, Rhett, Zo. 20, oh! Yeah. 20-RET-20. That's right, I got a belt with the year

and my name on it. And that is what I'm doing from here on out, ladies and gentlemen, and then my kids can fight over daddy's belt collection when I die. So it says 20-RET-20. I'm not gonna give it to both of them. What year is it, 20 ret 20? In my will, it's going to say,

a fight to the death between my sons is how you determine who gets the belt collection. So when you die, you want one of your sons to then also die trying to get your belt collection. The son that loses the fight is buried with me. With no belt. There's so many belts, man, just divide up the belts. This is, let me tell you right now,

I didn't, this belt got pricey real quick. The one in Olvera Street, 40 bucks for a custom belt. I don't even care, I wanna know how much you pay for it. Well, you got the thing that gets it up there is the belt buckle. This belt buckle. Did he make that? $79 for the belt buckle. It's, it Did he make that? $79 for the belt buckle. It's, it's.

But it's a custom, it's antique. He just, he has these. He found that from somewhere. Some man wore this. That's been on some other man's pubic area for a long time. Well, just above it. A man who wore this has like driven cattle across expanses with Billy Crystal.

You know what I'm saying? This is the real deal, man. You don't know. I like to believe it. What was that guy's name in City Slickers? Pappy, not Pappy. No, Curly. Curly.

Jack Palance, right? I think he won an Oscar for that. What a great movie. Doesn't really hold up, watched it recently with the kids. Maybe he just came out during the Oscars. Anyway. I'm not saying he was gay, I'm saying he just appeared.

He could also be gay. I don't know or care. But anyway, the highlight for me honestly was getting a new belt. I mean I gotta say, just to kind of put things in perspective, the best part of my Christmas break was getting a new belt. And I feel a little naked without it,

but I'm gonna see how I can, see if I can sit without it. Yeah, don't stand up, because your pants will stay where they are. When we got back, I felt like I needed a little bit of an actual break, and so I went skiing in Big Bear with Shepherd. I was gonna take- You knew I had been skiing and you felt like you couldn't get left behind.

Well, if that's how you wanna see it, the way I saw it was we're going skiing as a family and we're going to Mammoth in the near future and it's like you kinda wanna get your ski legs back. Yeah, yeah. But Locke ended up going actually to Mammoth with friends and so, and got a concussion and had to not ski. Long story, he's fine.

But so Shep and I just went, just the two of us, skied for a couple of days, had a great time. I did see that on your story, because I was back in the real world then, being sick and doing nothing except bedridden, looking at you, Gallivan, down the mountain. Really trying to see if you could ski better than me is what I was trying to assess,

having gone for five days in Mammoth. I think I could probably ski better than you. Okay. I've got a lot more skiing experience. That is true, but I don't think you can. My whole spring break last year was six days of skiing. You wanna have a ski off? Ski off, done.

Well that kinda brings me to my- Name a time and place. My thoughts about skiing, which it had been two years since I had been skiing, really for the first time in a long time, when I along with the kids were trying to learn how to ski. You do the black diamonds? And giving up the snow boarding.

Hell no, I don't do the black diamonds. Wasn't I better than you, bro? Are you telling me you can ski a black diamond? If it's not moguls, hell yes. Well then you're definitely better than me. I mean, because I went up to a blue. I don't look like I know what I'm doing, but I'm fine. I mean, I went up to a blue.

There's a lot of sliding going on, not a lot of real skiing. Here's what I thought. Here's what struck me because I was like, Christy, do you wanna come ski with us? Like we're learning, we'll have an instructor. And she was like no, she basically said, you know, it's scary and I was like okay, I respect that.

That's what's fun about it. I got out there with the kids and we were all doing well, like being instructed and really getting back into it after a couple of years, but the thing that struck me, I was seeing like old people, I was seeing people who were like rotund, like not really people in shape, okay? Yeah, because you're sliding.

The bigger the better, I think. But here's the thing, skiing is an extreme sport. You're going down a mountain on two sticks and for some reason, anybody thinks they can roll up, rent some crap and do it. And then there's, and I don't know how, old people and out of shape people are doing it.

I consider myself kind of in shape, in shape enough at my age to get out there and look all right, but maybe I have a heightened sense of mortality or I have an appreciation for there's a lot more riding on me now, you know? Your entire career, buddy. Okay. For one. So, it is scary. I mean, you're freaking on the side of a mountain on sticks. It's an extreme sport.

Well, no, no, it's not an extreme sport. You wouldn't just. Ski jumping is an extreme sport. Skiing is an extreme sport. No it's not, it's a winter sport. If you would go to the top of the mountain in the summertime with a mountain bike. Ice skating is not an extreme sport. No it's not, it's a winter sport. If you would go to the top of the mountain in the summertime with a mountain bike. Ice skating is not an extreme sport.

Mountain bike down this. There's no way anybody could just, it's like, well I've ridden a bike before, okay, I'm going down a mountain, no. Hold on, but see, no, you can, it's on a spectrum. I could go down a mountain bike course at a very slow speed. I couldn't do it in a way that is respectable

or actually sporty, but I could break my way down it. Well, this is, and speaking from experience, and I think I talked about this years ago, when I had my accident on like a downhill mountain bike course is that that's not actually true. If you get to a certain steepness, like a double black diamond or a black diamond of mountain biking, the slower you go, you're screwed.

Well, but see. You gotta bank the curves. But with skiing, listen, if you get to a place, I don't do the, I do the black diamonds occasionally when it's like, oh, you kinda need to go down this really quick black diamond to get to this other blue and it's not moguls. Moguls is bad news for me, I'm big, I got big skis, I don't like to turn really fast.

But even the turns, the thing about a turn is that Google's is bad news for me, I'm big, I got big skis, I don't like to turn really fast. But even the turns, the thing about a turn is that in order to ski properly, you have to commit and shift your weight forward down the hill and all instinct tells you to do is, the steeper it gets, lean back more, which immediately causes trouble and you're zooming down the mountain and you could die.

You have to trust the technique, at least in my understanding, to shift your weight forward over the leading ski or the outer ski and then make a turn. And that is a scary moment. Like when I was on a blue. Well, it's very scary. I did it, but I was. It's very scary.

Wigging out. Until you develop the feel to be like, oh, I can turn both ways reliably. And once you can turn and stop yourself, then you can pretty much do anything. Again, I'm not saying I look like I know what I'm doing. It's not like I've got good form and I'm not carving. I'm definitely kind of sliding and let it be known.

I'm thinking about not getting hurt the entire time. It's not like when I was a young man and I was just thinking about what's the most fun thing that I could do right now and what's the most fun line that I could take down this mountain. It's very much like how can I not get hurt? Is that way less hurt? Is this way less hurt? Is this way less hurt?

To me that's not going above a blue. Well but you still gotta have a little fun. And once you get, there doesn't seem to be any difference. Steepness no longer becomes an issue when you can turn without any trouble. And that is sort of. I don't get that yet. You'll get there in like two more days of skiing. You know what, you come out with me, I'll show you.

I mean, has anyone taught you how to do like the plant the pole and turn thing? Like the proper technique for? I've been, I watch, you know the people with the full ski suits? Oh yeah. Like one piece, like that dude knows what he's doing. Even though you can like get one that says

US ski team on Amazon. I just Even though you can get one that says US Ski Team on Amazon, I just assume if you've got one of those, you know what you're doing. I'm gonna get one of those just so people can say, you'll never believe what happened, I got run over by a guy from the US Ski Team. He was totally out of control. Yeah, he must have been the equipment manager.

No, yeah, I can do do it but it's not, but it doesn't look smooth and cool and like pop. Like the guys. I wanna get there because I think there's a zen associated with like going up high, I mean I wasn't a mammoth the whole time with my kids and like we only went on a blue once. You missed so much of the mountain.

I know but I didn't have the technique. Green. And I didn't wanna ditch my kids. Here's the problem. Here's just the problem with the greens. I know, but I didn't have the technique. Green. And I didn't wanna ditch my kids. Here's the problem, this is the problem with the greens. Too many people. In fact, when you go to Big Bear, Snow Summit, which is the bigger mountain between the two you can do there,

there's this really long run called Summit Run and it's green the whole way and it gets carved up by all these people and there's these kids and it's like. Old people? Yeah, but what we found is if there's a certain part of the mountain, if you go off sort of as far to the left as you can get, you come down these long blue runs

and then you get back on the lift and you literally just no line. Yeah. And the people are an obstacle. We should go, man. My boys are getting there. Ski off. Lily's done great but she doesn't really,

she's not motivated to get up the mountain. But the three of us are. One of the things that. I'll go with you. What is that? In a couple weeks? Am I now invited? Well no, we've already kinda got things worked out.

We're going with a different family. I thought he invited me, guys. Did you hear that? He was like come with me and then I knew he was going. You know, ski off anytime, anyplace, except the predetermined time that I'm going skiing with another family. Okay, you don't want me to embarrass you, I get it.

Jessie, when we were in Asheville, when we travel together, Jessie watches trashy reality TV. It's just what she does. We don't really watch it any other time. Okay. We have like TLC and Bravo like at home, but I don't know if she knows that. And I'd like to keep it that way.

I think she thinks that TLC and Bravo only get broadcast in hotels. Okay. I hope she doesn't, good thing she doesn't listen to this podcast. I can't tell you what's on that, what did you watch? Well on TLC. Isn't that the learning channel?

The learning channel, yeah Link, no one's learned anything on TLC for many years. Okay. Except how to not behave. How to not be like the people in all the shows that they have. Okay. But. Like the Housewives shows? Well the people in all the shows that they have. Okay. But. Like the Housewives shows?

Well, the one in particular that we watched is 90 Day Fiance. You guys know about this? There's a show where, well, Jessie made fun of me and tweeted this out because I was watching it kind of over her shoulder. I get sucked in, I'll admit, I get sucked into these things. And they go through a number of different couples.

And I was like, is it always? Is one of them always international? And she thought that was so funny she had to tweet it. Because the whole point of the show is, yes, it's someone who's getting married, essentially to get a green card. Oh. It's not that the love isn't real but the pretense is.

And then they only have to be married for three months? Well, I don't know. What's the three months? Because I think you have to be, I think you have to be, is it married for, I don't know where the 90 days comes in. You have to be engaged for at least 90 days. Like you have to be in a relationship for 90 days.

Apparently this doesn't matter to enjoy it. What was your takeaway if it wasn't that? My takeaway was I learned a lot about myself because I ended up tweeting something like sometimes I start to think that I'm a good person and then I realize that I'm ruthlessly judging a woman I don't know for serving pizza rolls at her wedding.

Now the tweet that I wanted to tweet, that Jessie said no you can't tweet that, was sometimes I start to think that I might be a good person and then I start having murderous impulses towards a woman that I don't know for serving pizza rolls at her wedding. So you wanted to kill somebody. Yeah, that's what I wanted to talk about

is that when I watch these people. But you like pizza rolls. What a hypocrite. No one even served pizza rolls at their wedding. It was the kind of thing that would have happened on the show, it was a joke. Okay, okay. I found myself wanting to hurt the people on the show.

And, and, and. Just like, I was like, where is this coming from? That doesn't sound like entertainment to me. Man, somebody who's got so many opinions about the way people behave, you watch one of these frickin' episodes and you tell me you don't wanna kill these people.

I'm not, I'm saying I probably would, but I wouldn't spend my time trying to be entertained in that manner. You just watch it and you're like, it's like a train wreck, you can't look away. You just can't, I can't believe some of the decisions that people make. Oh, but you know what, that tweet that I actually made,

that was different. I've got my, I've got my rabbit holes. This show is not about you rehashing all your tweets. No, no, no, no. The thing that I was actually tweeting about was four weddings, which is a different show. I wanted to kill those people too, just to be clear. Four weddings?

This is when four women have a wedding. They each have a wedding. They're all getting married but they attend each other's weddings as the show and then they rate each other's weddings and then the winner, the best wedding from the other three women deciding who has the best wedding gets like a trip, honeymoon or something.

So the women are horrible to each other. And I wanted to kill three out of four of those women. Okay. There's one that was like okay, she can go. But you wanted to kill three out of four of those women. Okay. There's one that was like, okay, she can go. But you wanted to keep watching. I couldn't stop. I couldn't stop. Sounds unhealthy.

But I couldn't stop hating them. I was just like, I can't do this. I can't watch this. These people make me so mad for the dumb decisions that they're making. I mean, is Jessie feeling that way? Why does she watch it? The same reason anyone watches any reality television. Yeah, I mean of course.

She doesn't get angry. It's just like, I watch The Bachelor too, you know? But she gets a kick out of it, she's not getting angry. I don't know, maybe she's better than me. Well we know that. She's, no, she's getting a kick out of it but you just get so frustrated with people sometimes and you're just like, I just don't understand

how this person got to be this person. So I thought that they were supposed to make you, these shows, feel better about yourself but it's interesting that it's making you come to grips with the fact that you are a bad person. Yeah, because I think you could just watch them and just be like, well I'm better than that person. Oh them and just be like, well, I'm better than that person. Oh, I'm better than that person.

I'm better than that person. I'm glad I'm not that person. I'm better than that person, which would be a pretty easy thing to do. But instead, it turned into murderous impulses. I wouldn't actually do it, but I just found it. I felt it in my heart. And wanted to tweet it, but then my wife said I couldn't,

but now I have. And then I told her. I don't tweet on vacation because I'm on vacation. Tweets work for me. But I did in my draft, in my drafts. Yeah, it was a murderous draft. It just says murderous impulses in a draft on Twitter. Okay, okay.

Because I was like I gotta go back to that. That's a good one. Get rid of that. People will like that. Get rid of that. It did remind me that last year when we went to Sedona, at night, you may recall, we would watch Survivor. Having never watched it, we as a family

got into watching Survivor, so my plan, and everybody was on board, was that we were gonna do that again this year. Oh, good. There's an interesting dynamic, though, that like Lily's 16 years old. She had a friend who was also in Mammoth, so like the first night, she was like, "'Can I spend the night with my friend?" No, you have to stay here and watch Survivoroth. So like the first night she was like, can I spend the night with my friend?

And like. No, you have to stay here and watch Survivor with your family. Yeah, so I was like, yes, tonight you can be awake. You know, so it's like, we're in this weird flux as a family where it's like. You can't hold it together. You can't hold it together all the time.

So you choose your battles. That went out the door, but what we did do in the wake of the rise of Skywalker and something about Harrison Ford made a connection to Indiana Jones and I think Christy was like, we should watch Indiana Jones because the kids hadn't seen it. And so, what?

They hadn't seen Indiana Jones, any of them. I have, okay? Wow. Of all the things I haven't seen, I have, and I got a special place in my heart for the second one, Temple of Doom, because it is the first movie I ever remember watching in the theater.

My dad, when I went to, you know, I'd visit my, I had visitation with my dad, or whatever you call it. He was not in prison, no. What's it called when you don't live with your dad and then you have to go stay with him? Hanging out. Yeah, I was hanging out with my dad.

There is a name. It's not custody, what's that name? I don't know. Anyway. It might be visitation, you might be right, but it just sounds like you're visiting a person in prison. I mean this was, I think it was 1983 when this movie came out. Can you check that? I guess, I mean I think it was 1983 when this movie came out.

Can you check that? I guess, I mean, maybe it was before. Temple of Doom? Yeah. I mean it could've been, even if it was 86, I would've been eight years old. It was the first movie I saw in the theater and I was, he wanted to see it.

And I guess he thought I would like it, but I was terrified. 84. 84. So yeah, I was six years old. Because of the heart scene? Yeah and the dude reaches in there and pulls out a beaten heart.

It scared the crap out of me but it was special. And I wanted to share that with my kids, especially Lando who I, I told him to close his eyes. So we watched all four of them and let me tell you, the first three are freaking magical. The fourth one, it has Shia LaBeouf and you know I'm really into him now. Right. Big fan of his.

But you're into Shia LaBeouf. Big fan of him now. Shia LaBeouf. Right now. Fully matured. Not like, you know. Too much CGI. Teen Shia LaBeouf. The first three are all,

I think Temple of Doom's my favorite but we had a blast watching these and it's, the first two are just, they're all amazing. I mean, I think they're my favorite movies and I was just reminded of that. You're your favorite movies and you kids hadn't seen them until now? Yeah.

What have you been doing? It was fun, man. It's fun watching that. But yes, that was the big thing for me. And I think, you know, coming back, I'll tell you the story that, I gotta tell you the medical story before I went. But just concluding,

because I kind of feel the same way you do in terms of like, last night I told Christy, I was like, you know, now that we're back from our vacation, what do we think about it, what do we learn, what do we wanna do differently next year? Because this is our second year of being in LA for Christmas. And the thesis is we're building our own traditions

and I had this feeling of like, like you said at the time, you're like, I always wanted it to be great and be like the best Christmas ever, but it was like, it was okay. But then the more we thought about it, I realized we actually started to talk about, and I wonder if you and Jessie ever talk about this,

it's like, as the kids get older, we wanna start building expectations and traditions, things that we are gonna keep doing as an expectation so that when they go off to school or go off to their own lives and they're starting to date people and get engaged and whatever they're gonna do that they're gonna wanna come back and do these things with us every year. So it's like, okay, this is what we do for the holidays and after the holidays,

we would always take a trip. We've done it two years in a row. It doesn't really matter how great the trip is as long as there's an expectation that, especially when kids start leaving, I was like, man, I'm sure it will be special when Lily's been off at college and then she comes back and the boys haven't seen her since she went to college.

Like she didn't come home for Thanksgiving's day. You know we gotta. Where is she going? She's like further away at college. Kind of like you know our friend's daughter who like went up to Oregon and like they didn't see her until, her sibling didn't see her until she came back for Christmas and I'm like yeah and if we're just at home

you know what's gonna happen. Oh I got these plans here, I got these plans here, but if we have this expectation that we're doing some sort of family trip, I'm like, I think this can become really special in that way, so I started to feel better about it. Then like, Lily and Lincoln have left the house, and it's just Lando waiting around,

it's like, hey, I haven't seen my siblings in months, and then they're coming back, and we're doing something. And I started to feel like, you know what? As I often conclude about myself, I put so much pressure on the specifics and on achieving some sort of perfection that it actually made me feel better to say, okay, we're creating space,

and I think I've said this before, creating an opportunity for memories to be made. And I think that's the biggest victory. And that's the definition of success. If we're together enough where things good, bad, and different can happen, that's success. Especially for when they get old. Listen, all you gotta do to get them to come back

when they're old is go somewhere because they won't have any money. Yeah, that's right. When you say, hey, free trip, your meals will be paid for. These kids are gonna come back, man. They'll be coming back for years. Gonna bring my girlfriend.

They'll be coming back for years. Gonna bring my boyfriend. Now if you just say, hey, just come back to the house, you gotta have a carrot. That's what I'm building. Indiana Jones Survivor. Well, before you tell your medical story, Sure.

I wanna run something by you that happened to me on the flight back. Okay, you want a cough drop? Nope, I don't wanna touch anything that you've been touching. All right. So, coming back on the flight, you know, it's like a five hour flight,

five, six hour flight from Raleigh to LA. And I got this new neck pillow thing that I'm experimenting with. Because me and Locke are taking a very special trip that I'm not even gonna tell you about until I get back from it because it's gonna because it's a pretty big moment for me. But it requires a long flight and I was like, I wanna be able to sleep on the plane.

That's months from now. Yeah, I need to figure out how to sleep on the plane so I'm gonna test some pillows. I don't like the regular ring, the regular donut pillow. I don't like the fact that there's a pillow behind my neck and I fall all around. There's this thing, I don't even know what it is, where you, it's a brace inside of a blanket

and then you wrap it around your neck and then it Velcros back onto itself. And so this piece of plastic is basically supporting your head and it got all these reviews on Amazon, like five star reviews on Amazon. You're talking about a scarf with a wedge in it. It's a scarf with a built in brace. Okay.

And it kinda worked. I still ended up waking up and thinking like, my neck doesn't feel great but better than if I had one of those traditional pillows. Anyway, so I like slept through the flight attendant coming by and asking, do you want a snack and do you want a drink or whatever? So I wake up and she's walking by and I was like,

oh, excuse me, can I get one of the protein boxes and a water? This is like the pay, like you can pay for it, right? She's like okay. So then another flight attendant comes back and she hands me the protein box. And I was like thank you.

Oh and can I also get a water? And she said, I've only got two hands. Oh snap. Whoa. I've only got two hands. This was not even the same person? It was a different person. And it's like, oh, before I could be like,

I'm not, first of all, there are certain people who, like my brother as an example, who would immediately clap back. Yeah. But I was just like, okay? And then, so then, Jessie hears this interaction, she's like, what was that? Why did, you didn't do anything wrong.

And then, and first of all, you could carry our water in a protein box with two hands, just FYI. Yeah, because one of them's a box and one of them's a cup. Well, or a bottle. So I, Jessie then goes, gets up to go use the restroom. And then she comes back and she says, "'You will not believe what just happened.'" What happened?

She's like, that flight attendant was back there telling another flight attendant about the interaction that she just had with you. What? And she was saying, and then he says, could I get a water? And I was like, I've only got two hands. And I was like, what is happening?

Like, it's weird. And I was, I don't. I hope that's not the end of your story. It is, man. Oh no. I don't know what happened. Come on, let me finish your story. So then I got up to quote, use the bathroom. But when I went up there and I saw the woman,

I said, excuse me, ma'am, my wife just overheard you retelling the story that I was also talking to my wife about. And we can't make sense of the fact that you're so upset that I asked for a water. After you've delivered me a box, it seems totally reasonable to then ask for you to go back and get a water.

And I'd already asked for a water. Even though I'd already asked for one. To another flight attendant. So what did I do wrong? What can I do differently next time so that you won't come back and spill the tea to your comrades up here at the front? The problem. I'm baffled.

The problem with that kind of behavior is that that's the kind of thing that escalates quickly and the next thing you know, somebody. They're turning the plane around. Like a US Marshal sticks a syringe in your neck and you fall down. Like you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

It's like that's the kind of thing that happens when you rebel on an airplane. If anybody puts you on a phone video, they're like that dude is crazy. Right. Look at his hair. Yeah and so I was just like I'll let it slide. I mean the other woman did bring me water and it was great.

I'm angry. Good, I wanted you to get angry before you told your last story. I feel murderous thoughts. There you go, now we're talking. I feel like murdering this woman. She only wants to be engaged for 90 days so she can, I don't know, for some sort of citizenship thing

and that's not even the right show. Pizza rolls. I'm confused. So a few days before the holidays really start getting going, hold on, no, this was the day after Christmas because two days later, we were gonna go to Mammoth. And I wake up, y'all. I think it was before Christmas

because I remember talking to you Christmas Eve. Was it? And you had just dealt with it. Yeah, that's right, it was the Christmas Eve Eve. I did the thing I rarely do, which is talk to you over break. Because you heard something happen to me. Because I was concerned.

And you asked me. I think Jessie told you to ask me. No she didn't. To have some sort of empathy. No, your wife texted Jessie and said something that was strange about your health situation and I called you 90 minutes later. Out of your own volition though.

You know what, I'm glad that you asked me how I was doing and I'm sorry that I assumed that your wife put you up to it. Good. Is that really how it happened? It is how it happened. Okay, cool, cool. Tell your story, man. So whatever freaking day it was,

I'm in a murderous frame of mind now, man. It's your fault if I'm coming down on you. If I'm taking it out on you, it's your fault. Yeah. I woke up because the room was spinning. I didn't wake up and find that the room was spinning. I woke up because with my eyes shut, I was tumbling through some sort of space.

I opened my eyes and I'm laying on my side and the room is spinning at this rate. Wow. What miles per hour, if you're on a carousel, it's like if a kid's on one of those merry-go-rounds and an adult is running as hard as they can pushing it around and you're the kid.

That's fast. Fast. But depends on how big it is. What, the radius of the merry-go-round? Yeah, the centrifugal acceleration is dependent on the radius. Not if you're sitting in the middle of the merry-go-round. You're right about that.

All right. So I wake up and it's like, I didn't have anything to drink the night before. I just was no hangover type of a spin. drink the night before. I just was no hangover type of a spin. And I sat up and I just sat there and as I was sitting there I'm slowly falling over on the bed cause you know it's just like if you get real dizzy,

you can't sit up straight. And then finally I got still enough that the room did stop. And I slept later than Christy, she wasn't even up there. So I got my phone and I was like, I need you to come up here because I feel weird. But I had to pee really badly. So then I got up and I slowly walked to the toilet and I sat down to pee.

Not because I always sit down to pee, which I do, but because I really had to this time. to pee, which I do, but because I really had to this time. And I basically fell off the toilet because the room started to spin again. And then Christy came up there and I told her, well actually, I made my way downstairs because she never got the text and I'm explaining to her what happened because it would just go into a spin

but it wasn't constant, it was like at certain times. So I made my way down there just fine and I'm like telling her, she's like, well I got up this morning, I was really sick. Do you have a Google Home? You can broadcast through the whole house. Yeah, I do. So I could like do an intercom thing,

like help me, the room is spinning. Yeah, you say, I'm not gonna say the thing, H Google broadcast, help me, the room is spinning. Okay. And then it'll do that. I do it all the time. I'll do that next time because then hopefully somebody would've come running. And she was like, well, I was really sick this morning.

It wasn't good. I think I have food poisoning. I'm like, you know what, I guess we ate the same thing, the kids ate something different. We thought I had food poisoning somehow. I like Google like dizziness associated with food poisoning. You can find some link to anything. So like thought that's what it was. Happened a few more times.

That's some serious food poisoning. I know, I just went back and I was like, I'm gonna go back and lay down in bed. And when I laid down, it happened a little bit, but I went to sleep and I woke up with the room spinning, same thing happening again. Christy starts talking to a friend of hers, Katie, who's like, you know, Link's got vertigo.

A lot of my relatives have it. You should try, she mentioned some maneuver which later it turns out was something called the Epley maneuver. So we're like Googling this thing. It actually was the next day that we had this conversation with her. We didn't uncover this maneuver.

You had a day of spinning. I had a day of spinning and a night of it. Gosh. And I was like looking up canceling my reservations at Mammoth, like I was thinking, when do I start getting penalized if I cancel now versus cancel later, how much more is it gonna cost me?

Because I'm like, there's no signs of this going away. You could have been the guy who spins down the mountain though. And we were Googling a bunch of stuff, but then the next day when we Googled this, it was so interesting, it was like okay, this is a maneuver that you can just try on your own. There's like physical therapists who have YouTube videos

that tell you how to do it, but the theory behind it is, in your inner ear, which of course is a center of equilibrium along with like parts of your brain, you've got these, if you've seen the model of the inner ear, you've got these different loops that come off of it, right? These different tunnels which are filled with, I don't know, I'm gonna call it liquid.

I believe it is. And it's these different tubes that come, that are oriented in different directions that magically in both ears keep you, it's miraculous when you look at how these mechanisms work. And then the assertion is that if a crystal, which apparently there are crystals

in another part of your ear that are supposed to be there, if a crystal. Remember, not new age crystals. No, just like a particle. Not like something that Gwyneth Paltrow would insert in her vagina. Like a, no, not a goop dildo, I don't know. I'm talking about what they would call a crystal

makes its way into one of these canals where it is not supposed to be. Then every time that crystal moves in the canal, the room starts spinning. That's crazy. And I was like this is wild. Do you grow these crystals as an adult or like they're there as a baby?

I don't understand. I don't, they seem to imply that the crystal got in the wrong place, not that the crystal existed. And these are in the few videos that I watched, okay? I only wanna know how to fix it. I didn't really care about reading the entire Wikipedia. Do I have crystals? Yes! I just wanna make sure I've got crystals.

This Epley maneuver is wild because it's a series of movements that then manipulate the crystal to go on a nice little trajectory around the loop. Using gravity. go on a nice little trajectory around the loop. Using gravity. Using gravity to then exit the canal, the tunnel. Now this feels like the kind of thing that. Who do? You watch a YouTube video and you do it.

I got really excited and I'm like this ain't going. You know while it's happening. When you see the thing being performed on someone, you're like this is't going to work. You know while it's happening. When you see the thing being performed on someone, you're like, this is not going to work. Especially when it's this simple. Okay, you sit up on your bed and then you lay down such that then your head is tilted back. Like if I'm sitting up here straight,

I'm gonna look up like put my chin in the air so that my head is angled back. Then you lay back and then you tilt your head to the right, or depending on which ear it's in, I'll just say, I don't even know which is which, but like you turn to the right 45 degrees and then look back 30 degrees or something like that. Did you have a protractor?

No protractor. You have a protractor? Christy was there like holding my head because I showed her the video. Excuse me, I thought I had another scab. Oh gosh. So you lay back, you look in this one direction and the room starts to spin.

You hold it until the room stops spinning. What, really? Yes. And that did happen? And that happened just a little bit. The room moved just a little. Half spin. And then happened just a little bit. The room moved just a little. Half spin. And then there's three positions.

The second position is instead of looking to the right 45 degrees with your head still tilted back, then you turn your head to the opposite, looking 45 degrees to the left. Head still draped over the end of the bed. I know this may not make sense, but you can watch a YouTube video. Then the room starts to spin again,

i.e. the crystal has moved and you have to let the room stop spinning so the crystal can settle in this new position. Crystals, man. And then the third one is while you're looking to the left, then you take your whole body and you roll over on your side while keeping that same angle, 45 degree angle of looking to the left, so now you're looking straight down at the floor and laying on your left side.

What is your wife doing at this point? She's turning me over and trying to like take the vantage point of like, yes, she's my protractor. Are you both naked? We're both naked, yes. We're making love while this is happening. I forgot that part. You need to be in a constant state of love making.

Right. That's how you get that crystal movement. Yeah, that's one way. Lots of crystals moving. When I turned over to that third position, the world unhinged. What? It was spinning so aggressively.

I don't want this to happen to me. It was so scary, dude. I simultaneously felt encouraged because something was happening. Because it was going according to plan. It was going according to plan. And the room was spinning so aggressively that I started moaning uncontrollably.

Oh wow. Oh, oh, those are the noises I was actually making. Oh, and I thought I was going to vomit. It was so bad and it took way too long for my taste for the room to stop spinning but you have to hold it. You have to wait for the crystal. And then you sit up on the edge of the bed and this one particular YouTube video I saw,

which no one else afterward told me that it had to do with this, but the physical therapist in this video was like, and then at this point, make sure for the next 24 hours that you don't look up. And so he recommended that you put on a neck brace. And I wanted to follow everything to a T, I didn't have a neck brace, so I took a towel

and some packaging tape and I folded a towel up around my neck and then I took packaging tape and I taped the, I made myself a neck brace. Not looking up. And Christy's like calling the physical therapist who's gonna come into the office and has agreed to see me and make sure that we're doing this right because when it was over, I still didn't feel good.

I still felt really discombobulated. But it wasn't spinning. It wasn't spinning and then, so a few hours later, we're supposed to go in to see her but I thought that she was coming to the house so I go downstairs, the doorbell rings, and it's a, I never met this therapist, but it's an Asian lady.

I knew that, Christy told me. So I go to the door with my neck brace on, and I open the door, and there's an Asian lady there. And I say to her, I say, thank you so much for coming, please come on in. And she said, oh no, it's fine, I'll stay right here. And I'm thinking, you can't do the maneuver on me right here but I didn't say that.

And then I saw that she had a name tag and it said Judy so and so, Forest Lawn Cemetery. And she was trying to sell a grave plot plot and I'm like is it that bad? She heard about the crystals. Is it that bad? We got a man with crystals, you know what happens 30% of the time. My life is falling apart, I open the door to get treatment

and a woman tries to sell me a grave plot. Yeah, she's like he's got on a towel neck brace. I can barely stand. This is a good start, he's close to death. He's definitely at death's door. I finally got rid of her. And I sat back down and we went to the therapist. Oh you didn't buy a plot?

I didn't, I was like. Forest Lawn is a classy place to go. I'm like, I wanna be incinerated. But you can still have a headstone. I wanna find like an environmentally, most environmentally friendly way to do it, which may not exist yet, but that's a talk for another time. Okay.

I go to the therapist, physical therapist. She was kind enough to see me and she did the same maneuver and it was. Did it all again? Yeah but nothing was spinning. But okay, because you had already done it. And you know what, what we did worked. I was just so anxious and I believe that it wasn't going to work that. Do you know what? What we did worked. I was just so anxious and I believed

that it wasn't going to work that I was just too uptight and that's what she told me. And then she sold me a special pillow. Oh she did? Yeah, kind of like yours but different. You know what? I'm learning something about you. Had like husks in it.

I'm learning something about you. Do you remember when you got an Orbeez stuck in your ear? There wasn't really an Orbeez stuck in my ear. There was for a moment. Yeah there was. And then there was much consternation. Because I believed it was still in there, yeah? Yeah, you've got a thing about thinking

that things are still in your ear when they're not. Listen, you're the hypochondriac. I am, but when nothing's wrong with you, you believe that the world is crumbling. I'm not an acute hypochondriac. But then when something is wrong with me and it gets better, I believe that it hasn't gotten better. Right, it's a not an acute hypochondriac. But then when something is wrong with me and it gets better, I believe that it hasn't gotten better. Right, it's a different type of hypochondria.

Okay, then that's it. That maneuver, a shout out to Mr. or Mrs. Epley who invented that maneuver. It's like magic. Think about how they had to like. I waited, I suffered a day and a night not knowing about this maneuver. Cadavers, how do they figure it out?

Just look at the ear and think about physics? Yeah, it's awesome. Now I got the rec this week. It's really geometry, I guess. Rec, baby, rec, baby, one, two, three, four. I'll keep it simple. My rec is remember the Epley maneuver when the world starts spinning around you

because it's crazy that you can just. Remember it or remember that it exists. Just remember that it exists. You don't even have to learn it. Just know that it's there. It's a lot more complicated than the Heimlich. The Heimlich, don't watch a YouTube video when you need to do that.

Just do it. Epley, you can take your time. Yeah, that's true, that's true. And also, I recommend. What other maneuvers are Also, I recommend now learning the Heimlich maneuver. Let's all do that today. What does it take to come up with a maneuver? Like what would the McLaughlin maneuver or the Neal maneuver be?

Because I feel like. Well, I have, I got a maneuver. Again, it's a love making maneuver. Okay. Okay, so. Well, you have to make a YouTube got a maneuver. Again, it's a love making maneuver. Okay. Okay, so. Well, you have to make a YouTube video. That's it, man. I mean, it's crazy to be that scared

and that affected by something, and then just to sit in three different positions and it get better? Here's what I would've done, okay? When it got better, I would've been so relieved, but when it was happening, I would've thought that it's over. I would've been like, this is it, I got a tumor,

or something, you know what I'm saying? I immediately just jumped to the worst possible conclusion. Right. That's what my hypochondria does. And so, I don't think that I would have gone a full day without going and seeing, that night I would have been like, Jesse, we gotta go to the emergency room. I was just gonna sleep it off.

Yeah, I wouldn't have done that. Couldn't have slept. Hashtag your biscuits, let us know how your year's starting out or whatever you, however you wanna respond to this. And next week. Yeah, we're getting into it next week. Again, it's gonna be, we're gonna talk about things

we've never talked about before that may or may not interest you. But we're gonna talk about them.