Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 240: We Gave Our Kids A Survey About Us | Ear Biscuits Ep.240
Episode Date: May 11, 2020R&L’s kids disclose all in a survey handed to them by their dads and about their dads. From the guys’ most annoying habits at home to their children’s favorite memories with them, R&L discuss th...e results in this episode of #earbiscuits! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Link.
And I'm Rhett.
This week at, for me, a totally new table,
and Link, the same table in his home,
we're gonna be talking about,
actually we're gonna be going through a survey
that we gave our children, all about mostly us.
And they didn't hold back on their answers.
So yeah, a survey about their unadulterated thoughts
of one of the adults in their lives, us, their fathers.
I will give an update, both for those of you
who are listening, because I have every reason
to believe that I sound very echoey,
because I am in an empty room that literally has,
it has a rug and it has the one thing
that has been delivered to my office over here
at the Creative House, my chair.
You're in a white room with a white t-shirt on.
This is your office at the Creative House?
Yeah, it's actually not white.
It's like very, very light lime green.
It's almost the same color as what is neon
that you have on but not as bright.
But I didn't really think about.
Okay.
Basically what happened is,
is I was getting ready to shoot at my house
and then I realized that there was a dude
with a jackhammer there.
Ah.
I'm gonna sneeze, I'm allergic to jackhammer.
Jackhammer, your construction,
your pool construction.
The construction has resumed
because they're sending like one, two guys over.
They're doing it in a responsible way,
masks, the whole deal.
But anyway, jackhammers and podcasts don't mix well.
So I kind of threw everything together, came over here.
Incidentally, just a point of nostalgia,
I am using the table, the original card table
that we cut a hole in for Good Morning Chia Lincoln
and then was the original Good Mythical Morning table
for a few seasons.
Well, before that, it was the Rhett and Linkast Live.
I mean, this is the first table we made videos from
for YouTube.
Oh yeah, Rhett and Linkast Live, before that, yeah.
Years before Chee and Link.
It's not in great shape.
I'm glad we still have it.
Oh yeah, it's in my office, it's my desk now.
As I wait for my desk to get here.
So hopefully you will adjust to the echo.
I've got some correlations
and I think there's gonna be some findings
from each of these children of mine.
And I'm interested to see what your kids had to say.
Some had to be more motivated to participate than others
and I think that will become clear
as we go through the responses.
You better believe it.
Now I've only got two children,
an 11 year old and a 16 year old.
And it's very clear that the 11 year old
was more interested in giving full elaborative answers
than the 16 year old, which is, you know,
just par for the course.
It's what you expect.
The only reason I had three kids was so now I can
have more of a chance of picking an answer that I like
on a survey that they filled out,
which I'm talking about on a podcast.
Well, really what you're saying is that
having kids is all about what it does for you.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's not about them, it's about us.
Yeah, yeah. You didn't have to spell it out,
but I think everybody gets that.
I will say before we get into the survey,
I had a little something happen at my house.
I did a very, very short,
just little teeny story on my Instagram
that lets you know about this,
but I'm gonna tell you the rest of the story now.
So we've had this idea, and I've heard of other families doing, I don't know if you've know about this, but I'm gonna tell you the rest of the story now. So we've had this idea,
and I've heard of other families doing,
I don't know if you've thought about camping,
like in your yard, as part of quarantine, right?
I thought about it for a second,
have not made any movements in that direction, no.
Well, Jesse brought it up and I was like,
I think this is a good idea,
but I do know that it's going to require me
to set the tent up and to blow all the mattresses up. I got it. I'm the dad. I do all that. Right.
Yeah. And so, um, but I was like, okay. And she asked four or five times and, you know,
we've been in quarantine for many weeks now. And I was like, okay, let's do it.
And of course, we don't even have any real grass.
We have artificial grass in a very small,
the one area of our yard that has grass.
You're talking about where Barbara poops?
Yeah, and peace. Oh, okay.
Great place to camp.
And a dog's latrine.
What do you think happens in the wilderness
that you normally camp at?
Multiple animals are defecating and
It's pretty concentrated.
Micturating all over the place.
In that one environment.
She's a small dog.
If it was a St. Bernard, we wouldn't be out there.
Be sleeping on some humps.
And we've been doing another thing,
which I also recommend.
We've got a projector that we've been watching
outdoor movies on the weekends.
We've been projecting up against the fence.
Okay.
And watched Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
Not that excellent.
Which I gotta say, no, holds up.
We started watching that a few months back
and like the kids were like looking at me like I was crazy.
And we had to turn it off.
No, it's hilarious.
It's hilarious.
Your kids don't have good taste.
I mean, it's okay. Your kids don't have good taste. I mean, it's okay.
Hey, my kids have good taste.
You'll see in the survey how good of a taste they've got.
My kids love insights into the 80s and the 90s
because they like to see what it was like for us.
And so like we watched Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
We watched Clueless last weekend.
They eat it up.
And Clueless is great because, well,
but actually both of them, they take place in LA.
So it's like they get to see the, anyway.
Okay.
So we were like, okay, well we're gonna.
I'm not gonna say your kids don't have taste.
You know, that wouldn't be tasteful to say,
so I wouldn't say that.
So I would say, okay, you know, their taste is their own.
I was like, okay, well,
tonight is the night we'll camp out.
And Locke just immediately says,
well, I'm not gonna be part of that.
As a 16 year old, this has been happening
as the quarantine has gone on.
There's just, he's just been kind of ducking out
of different family activities and I get it.
Yeah, it's tough, man.
He did watch the movie with us. He did watch the movie with us,
he did watch the movie with us,
but then we're like, okay,
it's gonna be me and Jessie and Shepard.
Well, you know how sometimes things can be
kinda hanging on by a thread
and then something can happen that can just create,
the tension boils over?
Oh yeah.
Well, Shepard, at the very end of Clueless,
the part where Claire is realizing that she's in love with
her step brother, played by Paul Rudd.
And this is the point, I mean, this is everything
has been culminating into this moment.
And all of a sudden Shepard gets up
and starts doing something with Barbara
and everybody gets distracted
and then I yell at Shepard in the middle of the scene
and then he is in his dragon onesie with a giant hood
and then he puts his hood over his head
and puts his head down and doesn't watch the last scene.
Oh no. So,
he was upset and then he's like,
"'I'm not camping with you guys.
And so I tried to talk him into it.
You and Jesse are gonna sleep in a tent.
So it ended up being me and Jesse and Barbara.
All night in a tent?
Well, I'm not done yet.
So we go out there and I'm out there for about an hour
and I realized that I can't sleep.
And also my back has been doing great,
but actually that day my back was not doing great.
And so I'm on one of those inflatable,
I'm not even on an air mattress.
I'm on one of those like packable, backpacking,
very, very thin inflatable things, you know?
And I was like, baby, I'm really sorry,
but I think I gotta go into the bed. I
mean, we're just out here in a tent. You're so close to the bed. Literally. Yeah. I could almost
touch it. But I said, but you should stay out here. You know, she kind of wanted to. She was
like, well, me and Barbara will stay out here in the tent.
She actually was like, she saw it as a test.
Can I stay outside all night and sleep in the tent?
Because she was kind of scared of what I don't know.
Okay.
So my wife slept in the tent by herself with our dog.
And she said there were a couple of stressful moments where her and Barbara both woke up, heard rustling.
I think we got rats coming down and eating fruit
from that fruit tree in the neighbor's yard
and I think one of them may have rustled up
next to the tent.
I think that what happened is the one thing
that makes the most sense.
I mean, you're achieving spatial distance
from your family, the only people
that you've been in close
proximity with for weeks on
in. That's the thing about camping.
It's like, hey, we've been confined to
this space, only interacting
with each other in person.
Why don't we move
to another, more confined
space and be more uncomfortable and closer together?
But really I think what's happening is,
why don't I go and live in another house,
which just happens to be a tent in the yard?
You're on to something.
I think you should take shifts.
Just leave the tent up.
And that way you got a place,
you got a haven that people can go to.
I might even come over there and sleep in that tent.
I don't know about that.
I might be forced to.
But the tent is still up.
But I tell this story as a way to introduce the fact that
even though as we said earlier,
you have your children to inflate your own ego
and to carry on your own seed.
Which I'm being sarcastic, by the way, for those of you for the 10% who didn't get it.
They don't always do what you want them to do. The moments that you try to create for your family
don't always come to fruition in the way that you envision. And your
kids, they don't always react to you or understand you in the way that you are trying to be understood.
And so I think that this survey where we asked them some personal questions about us illustrates
the fact that they do have some formed opinions about us, but the fact that they do have some
formed opinions about us, but they may not be the opinions
that we tried to form in them.
Yeah, and I've got my surveys laid out.
Lily, Lincoln, the middle child in the middle,
and then Lando over here.
And let's just get into the first question.
Let's do a couple right quick.
Because I think we'll just go through the survey
and see what stands out to us.
The first question,
and Kiko and Jenna helped put these questions together.
And then we just read them and we're like,
okay, I don't know what they're gonna answer,
but let's just give it over to them and see what they say.
So the first question is,
what's your dad's weirdest habit at home?
Which I feel like, you know, puts a big target on my back
because I know I'm a man of weird habits, you know.
Lincoln did not answer this question
because even though I told him a week ago
that I asked him to fill out this survey
along with Lily and Lando,
I woke up this morning and realized I forgot to ask him again last night.
So I woke him up from sleeping to fill out this survey.
And then when I went in there, like 30 minutes later, the survey was on his bed.
He was still on his bed and he was yet again asleep.
So it's a great sign that the first question has no answer.
Yeah.
That seems like the easiest one
if you're my child, right?
My 16 year old did not answer that question either.
Okay, that's fine. First question.
Lando said he wants to reuse, in all caps, everything.
Now, I was trying to figure out what he was referring to.
I mean, I've definitely been reusing freezer bags, you know,
turning my Ziploc inside out, rinsing it off, letting it dry,
and then putting some more stuff in it.
I mean, I've been tempted to blow my nose
and then wipe with the same square of toilet tissue.
I'm not gonna say I've done that.
Well, based on what I heard while on a phone call
with you and your wife in the background,
she said, you just blew your nose
and wiped the counter with it.
Or no, she told my wife that that's what you did.
So you have done it.
Well, I didn't wipe my butt with it.
Well, it's not a huge difference, it's an orifice.
I did, yeah, she happened to see me
and I like, I wiped my nose and then I saw something
on the counter and I had something in my hand
and to me it was disconnected. And I know you think I'm a clean person and I'm like neurotic about that but I'm
I'm efficiency trumps everything for me and like Lando said I like to reuse things so then I had
to watch the whole counter because Christy caught me doing that and it was just I don't know why I
did it it wasn't it just something that happened. Lincoln didn't answer.
Lily said, my weirdest habit at home is
eating his morning smoothie out of a coffee mug
and sometimes a peanut butter jar.
And I'm like, my best mornings are the mornings
when I'm scraping the bottom of the peanut butter jar
to make my smoothie.
And then I can just pour the smoothie
into the peanut butter jar and eat a whole lot of, scrape the bottom of the peanut butter jar to make my smoothie, and then I can just pour the smoothie into the peanut butter jar
and eat a whole lot of,
scrape the last bit of peanut butter off
and get that much more peanut butter in my smoothie.
Those are the best days.
You're a strange man.
I don't know what her problem with my coffee mug is.
I drink my coffee, there's a mug.
I'm not gonna dirty another thing.
I'm gonna keep using my mug.
That's not just for coffee.
Hold on, so you put,
you like ration your smoothie into the coffee mug
over and over again, keep filling it up?
Yeah, I fill it up, drink it, it gets halfway down,
then I put the rest and I scrape the blender remains
into the coffee mug.
How do you drink, you drink your smoothie like this?
I eat it with a spoon.
I remember that now.
Shepherd only answered this question.
What's your dad's weirdest habit at home?
He takes a long time to poop.
Well, you're not pooping that long.
You're just on the toilet. Right. Right.
Yeah, I am self isolating.
Why is that?
That can't be the weirdest thing you do at home.
Well, I mean, I don't know, man.
I'm not nearly as eccentric when it comes to
strange, weird little things that I do around the house as you.
I don't have like that Nutty Professor vibe.
Great movie.
So Nutty Professor holds up, but Bill and Ted's doesn't.
Definitely.
You see who we're talking to here.
Definitely.
But also, you'll see as we go through the survey,
Shepard is
also trying to be
entertaining, which I believe he pulled
off pretty thoroughly.
Okay, moving
on to the next question, and then
we'll take a short break.
What's the
one thing that your dad always says to you?
Now, this made me feel, first of all, I mean, in some ways,
Locke and I have sort of the typical dad-teen relationship,
and almost like if you're a fan of the Goldbergs,
we talk about how everyone in our family is kind of like a much more less caricaturized version of the different members of the Goldbergs.
And so this is a very typical family. You've got like the dad who's always yelling and getting upset about people get into his stuff, walking around in his underwear.
So I'm sort of a mild version of that at home, right?
And then you've got the older brother, Barry,
who's like super into basketball and rap
and like has like, you know,
and is always talking about working out and all this stuff
and like Locke is very, very much like the mild version
of Barry Goldberg.
Okay.
And so,
What did he say that you would always say to him?
He said that I usually say,
I thought maybe you weren't a moron.
That's what you say to him often?
I thought maybe you weren't a moron.
And first of all, I mean,
That is harsh, Sally.
This isn't something that I say on a regular basis,
but it's obvious, it's clear that it has stuck with him.
So, but, you know, we do have that very typical
dad-teen relationship in which he'll do something
and then he'll do it again and then he'll do it again.
And then my response will be like,
you know, I thought maybe you weren't a moron.
Which is a softer way of saying you're a moron,
but without saying you're a moron.
But listen, I believe in you that you're not a moron,
but you certainly are behaving like one at this point.
It sounds like you've given up.
Like at one point you believed in him,
but now you as a last ditch effort
to manipulate the moron out of him.
Murray Goldberg just yells moron.
I don't yell moron. Oh, he does.
I just say the constructive thing,
I try to move you away from the moron.
And Shepard answered this as,
I think I got corona.
Yeah, I know you do that.
Which I did that a lot at the very beginning.
And then I and now it's become a joke.
So I guess not that Coronavirus is a joke,
but different members of our family thinking that we have it
has sort of become a running joke.
Anybody coughs, I think I got Corona.
Lily said that I always say,
Hey, can you turn off that light?
I mean, I turn off a bunch of lights.
I feel like I have the right to ask someone else
to occasionally turn off a light,
especially when I'm already nestled into my spot
on the couch and we're about to watch another episode
of Survivor together.
She's the last one and we've been waiting on her.
And then the light from the hallway shines right
into my eyes.
So when I'm watching television,
it makes my experience not as pleasurable.
So I'm like, hey, can you turn off that light?
And yes, she has to turn around and go back and do it.
But it's not the end of the world.
Lincoln said the one thing that I always say to him is,
get with the program.
Yeah, that's a softer way of saying,
I thought you weren't a moron.
Well, and it definitely implies that I have,
I have an idea of how things should go,
like you were saying about the camping.
I have a vision for how things should unfold
and what's the most perfect way.
And it's a program.
And so I guess I think of it as a program
that people need to get with.
Now, I didn't know that I said this all the time.
But then Lando said the one thing that dad always says
to him is get with the program.
And I did not know that this was a catchphrase of mine.
I honestly didn't.
So I'm learning something.
Apparently I say get with the program a lot.
Yeah, you never told me to get with the program,
but I have inferred that there's always a program.
So maybe you just don't say it because I'm not your child.
No, you're usually with the program.
That's good.
You're under my influence.
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More questions.
What's the next question?
On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rank your dad's coolness?
Oh, man.
This is a risky one, right?
I think Kiko and Jenna wanted to throw us under the bus with this one.
Lily gave me a 10.
And she even supported her answer. She said, he gets to do something he loves for a living, and gave me a 10. And she even supported her answer.
She said, he gets to do something he loves for a living
and that's pretty cool.
So the fact that I get to do something is cool.
So I don't know if she's really rating me as a 10
or, you know, my life from my perspective as a 10.
Either way, I will take it.
Yeah, that's pretty generous.
What did Locke say?
Well, Shepherd said,
like seven.
Uh-huh.
So like seven.
Like seven.
Lincoln incidentally gave me a seven.
Hmm, okay.
Well, Locke tried to get cute and gave me a 6.8.
So I'm rounding that up to a seven.
6.8. So I got an average
of seven from my children.
Lando gave me a 10.
And he also put four hearts.
And he clarified that it was a 10 out of 10.
So, yeah. I'm definitely Lando's favorite dad.
I think, you know, he didn't wanna,
Lando doesn't wanna make me feel bad.
I don't know what his true answer is, but.
Yeah, in the McLaughlin household,
we specialize in making each other feel bad.
That's sort of like, we're very sarcastic.
That's love.
With one another.
Yeah, that's how we show love to each other.
That's an expression of love.
No one in a million years,
when asked on a scale of one to 10 to rank a person,
no one's getting 10s in the McLaughlin household.
You have to do something incredible to earn a 10
and no one's done it yet.
Yeah, yeah.
It's an emotional love lick.
Like I've said this before, my granddad Clyde,
he'd give you a nice firm hit on the shoulder
or like a dead leg on the knee
or he'd give you like a firm pinch.
And that was his way of showing affection
by letting you feel pain, just a little bit.
We call it love licks.
Well, we don't do that in my house, but.
Yeah, don't do that in my house either.
Yeah, what would you do if you swap roles with your dad?
Oh, what'd you get for this?
Well, Shepard said,
"'I would be completely and utterly lost on what to do.
Hey, you know what?
That's probably true, right?
He's honest.
This is a hard job, man.
I mean, I hate to, I almost didn't say this, Locke,
but it's obviously, Link,
Locke knew that we would be doing this together
and I think he thought this would be funny.
What would you do if you swapped roles with your dad?
Fire Link.
Okay, that's funny.
It's funny because Lily said fire Locke
or any of the McLaughins.
Just kidding, ha ha ha.
So it's like she has that same sense of humor, I guess.
But Locke, it ain't never gonna happen.
Hold on, you're not joking.
She said fire Locke?
Yeah, I don't know why she thought.
She must have said it. Fire Locke from what?
For wanting to fire me, I guess.
She had a premonition.
I don't know why she wrote fire Locke.
Locke is not even an employee. Maybe they consulted premonition. I don't know why she wrote fire Locke. Locke is not even an employee.
Maybe they consulted on their answers.
I don't know. Maybe they did.
Lando, what would he do if he swapped roles with me?
He said he would hand over the company to his brother.
And then I go over to Lincoln's answer,
who did not confer with Lando.
And he said, what would I do if I swap roles with my dad?
Go bankrupt.
So no matter who,
if I swap roles with either one of them,
it's like we're in trouble.
It's passing the baton to bankruptcy.
Okay, if you choose any guest to appear on GMM,
which guest would you choose?
Shepard said,
I don't know, Oprah?
Hey, that would be pretty good.
It would be kind of weird
to have Oprah on the show, but...
It's just funny that a 11 year old,
like Oprah hasn't really been Oprah for,
you know what I'm saying?
She's got her, she just got her own like channel.
Like who, where's he getting information on Oprah?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I think Oprah is like a mythological creature to him.
Like someone who's just looms in the ether
as being a powerful person in society, creature to him, like someone who's just looms in the ether
as being a powerful person in society,
but he's never truly experienced it directly, I don't think.
Maybe he has, I don't know.
I don't know.
Lando said his younger cousin, which that would be cute.
Lincoln didn't answer.
And Lily, this is no surprise,
she said John Mulaney or John Mayer.
I guess anyone named John at this point is what she said.
Big fan of John Mulaney.
I think maybe we could get him on the show, I don't know.
Open invitation, John Mulaney, come on the show.
Yeah, yeah.
Interesting that Locke kind of chose
a comedian that he's kind of vibing with as well.
He said Theo Vaughn.
Theo Vaughn's funny.
I thought that at some point he was gonna be on the show.
Maybe before all this happened?
There was definitely talk of him being on the show.
There's a connection with the publicist or something.
PR firm, I think we have some sort of connection,
but we haven't made a connection.
He's a funny dude.
He's very funny.
Loose cannon, you never know what he's gonna say.
Right.
But I like him, it'd be cool to meet him.
What's the one thing you enjoy most doing with your dad?
Lando said playing games. Lincoln said laughing.
That makes me feel good.
Lily said watching current mood. Again,
both big fans of John Mayer,
so watching his
live Instagram on Sunday
nights is something that we now
make an appointment to watch it live.
We used to watch it
late at night after
the fact, but there's something about watching it live. So that's, we used to watch it like late at night after the fact, but there's something about watching it live.
And that's our quality time together.
Yeah, so Locke and I have horror movie night
because he's really into horror movies.
And you know, his 16 year old self, this is how he put it.
Watching horror movies is pretty fun.
It's like, this is what I enjoy.
Couldn't just say watching horror movies.
It's gotta be like, watching horror movies is pretty fun.
I mean, it's not like incredible, but it's pretty fun.
Whereas Shep said, playing with the drone slash golf,
which interestingly, we just got this drone
that you've now seen.
I have now seen it.
And we've only played with it one time.
I mean, I've been out like in shepherd stance next to me,
but I let him take the controls one time.
And apparently that meant a lot to him
because it is his favorite thing that he does with it.
So now I realize that, okay, we need to,
you know, you get insights.
He's like really enjoying the drone.
And it's, you know, it's not easy to control,
but it's not one of those drones that like
the moment you get it, you're going to destroy it.
You know, it's a little more reliable.
Pretty good drone.
What kind of drone is it?
It's the Mavic Mini.
So it's basically like DJI,
they're the ones that make all the best drones.
But this is like the small one.
It weighs like, it's the same without a battery,
it weighs the same as an iPhone, I think. Oh, wow. Maybe with a battery. It weighs like, it's the same, without a battery, it weighs the same as an iPhone, I think.
Oh, wow.
Maybe with a battery.
It's very, very light.
But,
it can go,
in fact,
it can go two and a half miles.
And so,
it has a two and a half mile range,
but that's like a direct line of sight thing.
So since,
you know,
we live probably a mile apart or so
I was
right when I got it I was trying to send it to your house
to spy on you
in your backyard
but I just started going
to your house
and it just said signal lost
and I was like uh oh
but it comes back
once it loses its signal, it returns home.
How much did that thing run you?
I just, you know, it's nice.
It's 400 bucks.
400 bucks?
God, I would have been a little more careful
if you'd told me that when I was using it.
You thought it was, dude, this is, it's a nice drone.
Well, I don't, you know.
It's a nice drone.
Yeah, it was just little.
It looked about as light as an iPhone, so I'm like, eh.
You thought it was one of those, like, you get at, like, the mall for, like, 40 bucks.
No, it's not.
It's, you just wait until you see the footage from that thing.
What was the last thing that filled you with wonder that took you away from your desk or your car in traffic?
Well, for us, and I'm going to guess for some of you, that thing is...
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I reviewed some of the footage.
We asked each person, how much does dad weigh?
I was curious about this.
So we'll start with the oldest.
How much does dad weigh?
Lily said approximately 266 jars of peanut butter.
That's way too much.
If you do that conversion, that's way too much.
Lincoln said 190 to 250 pounds.
I don't know if he thinks I fluctuate or what,
but I don't know that he was joking.
Hold on, hold on.
Did he inherit your inability to perceive numbers?
I think maybe he did.
I think maybe he did.
That is crazy.
Lando said, I don't know if this is right,
question mark, question mark, question mark,
but ironically, he is the most accurate in my family
with 130 pounds.
I weigh 160 pounds.
Yeah, you were, I think you were the closest.
Locke should know, right?
Yeah, well, because Shepherd said 125 to 150.
So not true.
Little low.
Locke said 220 pounds, 14% body fat.
Which incidentally, that was accurate.
Totally? Exactly accurate.
Well, Locke and I are like,
he knows this because we talk about it.
Like I got my like in body analysis done
actually right before quarantine.
But I've actually lost 10 pounds during quarantine
because I've been walking like nuts.
I've lost, at one point I lost 10 pounds
and I don't know how or why.
It was just, and this was after a couple of weeks
of getting delinquent and not working out
and I guess not eating.
It's just wasting away a little bit.
And then, so once I started weighing,
once I realized that, I started eating more snacks
and I gained about five pounds back.
So I lost 10 pounds of muscle and I gained about five pounds back. So I lost 10 pounds of muscle
and I gained five pounds of snacks.
That's where I'm at in this situation.
Yeah, but I've been looking at my walking
and I've been walking an average of four miles per day
during quarantine. Really?
Yeah.
Just, I mean, we've been going on walks.
I think it's a combination of that.
And then I think it's because we've been eating out
so much less that you just kind of make a plate of food
for yourself and then I kind of just eat it.
And if I go to, like, we go out a lot
when going out is a thing
and you know, get a little appetizer.
Oh, get a meal.
Why not get a dessert?
Get a little latte, get a little cappuccino.
And I just think that, cause I'm not doing that,
my calories have gone down.
So yeah, so Locke was almost exactly right,
but not anymore.
Is there something your dad does that annoys you?
Locke gave me the very typical answer,
which is tell me he can't wait till I have my own kids.
Oh, that's another catchphrase from you.
Which again is,
we have so many stereotypical conversations.
Like we'll be in the middle of something and I'm like,
this is a conversation that I have seen take place in media, television and film.
And I never thought that we would get here,
that you would be doing the very teenage thing and I would be doing the very dad thing and literally saying with meaning,
man, I just, I can't wait till you have your own children.
But you just want grandkids,
that's really what you mean, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Man, isn't that a weird thought?
Us having grandchildren?
Man, I get weirded out thinking about my kids
like Lily having
a child.
It's just going to be, I think that's
when I'm going to feel old.
You know?
I think that's what's going to do it.
Granddad status.
Man,
I don't know. This survey is making me feel
a little old. It's making you feel very tropish.
Lily said it annoys her when I chew really loudly,
which that's no surprise.
Oh, you wish you to put that as your answer?
Linda makes her a normal person.
Lincoln said it annoys him
when I make him do his crap for him.
Well, I don't make him do my crap,
like moving the trash cans around
or like washing some of the dishes
or like turning off a light.
That's not my crap.
It's just the crap, it's all of our crap
that I'm the only one who seems to care about
besides Christy.
It's like, why is that my crap?
Yeah, the idea is that we're trying to get them
to understand that it's their crap.
Unless he was talking about this survey, which-
I can't wait until they have their own kids.
Yeah, Lando says it annoys him when he says,
when he tells me, quote, another way to do things.
Yeah, I get that.
He'll be doing something and I'll swoop in and say,
I try not to say, let me tell you the right way
or the perfect way or the best way or a better way.
I just try to say another way.
Apparently that technique doesn't work.
Okay, I'm taking the note.
I don't know how to take this note
because Shepard said his farts smell real bad.
What does he expect?
Yeah, I'm just a human.
And by the way, last time I checked,
Shepard smelled worse than mine.
Maybe he's projecting.
Yeah, all you need is lard bars and Pringle chips. worse than mine. Maybe he's projecting. Yeah.
I don't know what the boy eats.
All you need is lard bars and Pringle chips.
Your farts tend to smell a little odd.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, in fact, many times I'll come into the room and say,
did you just fart?
And he's like, how did you know?
I was like, well, because I can smell it, son.
He was like, yeah, it was like seven minutes ago, dad.
I was like, well, that's technically just farted in my book.
Oh, really?
If a fart lingers for seven minutes,
then it shouldn't be more than four, really.
I think you gotta alter your diet if it lingers more than four, really. I think you gotta alter your diet
if it lingers more than four minutes.
Okay.
It just needs to kinda,
now if you're crawling on the floor,
it's gonna settle there,
and it's gonna stink for at least eight minutes
down there at the floor.
Is that what happens to farts?
Yeah, farts kinda, they go up,
and then they kinda come down,
and they just form like a nice fog.
So I wouldn't crawl over it.
It's the opposite of smoke.
But I thought methane goes up.
Does it?
I'm making this up.
Actually, I don't know, methane may go down.
I think it goes up, because it's a greenhouse gas.
Okay, do you think the relationship your dad has
with your dog is weird?
Shepherd said, no, because if he has a weird relationship
with Barbara, then I probably do too.
Although his is a little extreme.
Oh, okay, so he's taking into account
how all this reflects on him.
I think the thing is, is that everybody in my family,
I mean, Locke said slightly,
but everyone in my family has a very similar relationship
to Barbara in that there's lots of baby talk.
There's lots of kissing.
There's lots of Barbara licking people's mouths,
sometimes the inside of their mouths.
Oh, gosh.
You know, that's what the McLaughlins do.
We don't, you know, we- You don't close your mouth when you kiss your dog. We're part of the mouths. Oh gosh. You know, that's what the McLaughlins do. We don't, you know, we-
You don't close your mouth when you kiss your dog.
We're part of the pack.
We're part of the pack.
I think for the same reasons Lillian Lincoln said,
nah, no, Lando said a little.
It's a little weird, my relationship with Jade.
See, we tried to get some compliments here.
What's your dad's best trait?
Lincoln did not answer this.
Lily gave a backhanded answer.
She said, he's pretty smart for a YouTuber.
And of course, Lando, who actually loves me,
he said he cares for me, but then he clarified,
not meaning that he takes care of me.
Yeah, because he's like having another child in the house.
It's not like you're actually.
Yeah, I care about him, but I'm.
Christy cares for him.
Christy cares for him, yeah, that's right.
Christy is actually raising him.
You're just being his friend.
Shepherd said, what's your dad's best trait?
He can make anyone laugh.
So I'll take that.
That's thoughtful.
And then Locke gave the 16 year old version of that,
comedy.
He just said, comedy.
Best trait is comedy.
I'll just say comedy.
If you had to choose one person in your family
to be stranded on a deserted island with and survive,
who would you pick and why?
Now, I'm going to say what I think your kid said
and you can tell me what you think my kid said.
Okay.
I mean, all this apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic
and survival talk,
I do believe that that translates from our conversations
and also carries over into your home conversations
because things are arriving at your door
and you got to explain yourself
and you're probably proud of it.
So I think the kids know that you're,
that you're,
that you got like some prepping tendencies.
I just think they would both choose you,
even though Jesse's the only one with enough valor
to stay all night in the tent.
True.
Well, Locke actually chose Shepherd,
which I thought this was sweet because he said,
"'Shepherd because we would never run out of things
"'to talk about.'"
Huh, kind of threw you under the bus,
but how did that make you feel?
But Shepherd said,
"'My dad because he has the most meat on his bones
"'and experience in life.'"
So he would eat you.
Yeah, well, he would take advantage of my experience
and then when I expired, he would eat me.
So he's definitely thinking, he's a smart kid.
Let's see, what your kids.
What do you think they said?
I can't see your kids picking one another.
I think your kids picked a parent.
I think Lando picked Christy
and then your teenagers picked you.
Lando picked Christy and then your teenagers picked you. Lando said Lincoln.
Whoa, okay.
Because I want him to be like Kenny.
He never will be though.
Now Kenny, the first season of Survivor
that we watched was season 17
and there was this professional video gamer
is what they called him.
Yeah, competitive gamer named Kenny.
And he turned out to be a conniving survivalist
until he got a little cocky.
So for some reason, Lando thinks that Lincoln's got that.
Lincoln said, Lincoln picked me.
He said, because he has some survival skills.
I mean, we've been camping, so I feel like, you know,
when we go camping, it's, you know,
it does all hinge on me.
I'm not as helpless as one might think.
Lily said, probably my dad.
Bam!
Because I feel like he remembers the most
from that show, Man Versus Wild.
Yeah, back in the day, this is like-
Everything that you know is from that show.
Six years ago, we did go through a little stint
of watching Man versus Wild.
And we talk about it occasionally.
I don't remember any of it.
So she's gonna be crushed.
Okay, this is an interesting one.
Who do you think is your dad's favorite child and why? Again,
this is definitely not true. I will say that. But Locke has this perspective and he literally
says all the time, why does Shepard get away with that? I would have never gotten away with that.
Why do you let him do that? So that's a very common thing. So his answer was Shepherd because
it's obvious. And I think that there is something to the second child getting away with more than
the first child.
And because after a while, you're kind of like,
I don't, we tried really hard to get you to do things.
And I mean, it didn't necessarily work.
And so we're a little bit more relaxed with the second one.
And so there's a bunch of resentment from the older child.
Very, again, very common thing.
It's interesting.
I actually feel like Lily gets away with more,
or in this household,
especially in this environment where it's like me trying to get the kids to do my crap,
like chores.
I think Lily is the one,
if I'm totally honest,
that I let off the hook the most because she provides the most,
I'll just call it feedback.
Whereas the boys, they'll be more resigned
to once they're doing it,
like washing the dishes or something,
it won't be this constant commentary
on why they have something better to do
or something that they need to do.
There's not as much resistance, but what did the kids say?
Lando thinks that Lincoln is my favorite
because he's quiet.
And I'm like, oh, that's a good point.
That's a good point.
I don't know, maybe he is my favorite.
I am fond of the quiet.
Lincoln thought that his favorite was, he said, me.
Because I'm the most like him.
And I think Lincoln and I, I mean,
at his age, I was quiet too.
Of course I was an only child
and just didn't have anybody to talk to.
If a tree falls in the forest and no one's there.
So yeah, I do think we're a lot alike.
I mean, we have very similar sense of humor
in the type of jokes that we crack
and the expressions we make,
the way that our face looks when we express ourselves.
Like there's a lot, we see a lot of each other
and people point that out a lot.
So there's two votes for Lincoln.
And then Lily said that my favorite was Jade.
I don't think an explanation is necessary.
So two votes Lincoln, one vote Jade.
Yeah, Shepherd said Barbara with no explanation.
And of course Lando, I'm gonna go on record
since you're sitting here, I'll say,
of course you're my favorite man,
because you're here and the other two can't hear me.
You know that, but you are my favorite.
Sometimes, sometimes it shifts, right?
Yeah, it's whoever's with the program.
Right, whoever's most with the program.
That's how you dish out your love.
I mean, Lincoln and I are a lot alike.
Lando melts my heart the most
and Lily and I have a lot of fun together.
So I think, you know, I mean, it does move, you know?
But I'm not gonna say that I don't have a favorite.
Like, you know, parents will say,
well, I don't have a favorite.
I'd rather be more honest and say, it jumps around.
Well, that's not really having a favorite though.
That's just being in a better-
Like what's your favorite song?
Your favorite song can change from week to week.
Depends on what I'm doing.
That's right.
Yeah, but to me, that's another way of saying
I don't have a favorite.
No, because I feel actively like,
oh, you're definitely my favorite.
Like I have thoughts like that in certain moments.
Yeah, I don't go there.
Maybe because I've got two and it feels too competitive
between the two if I were to do that.
You've got three so it feels like
you can kind of move it around.
Do you think your dad is old?
Point blank question.
Let's brace ourselves for the brutal responses.
I didn't get a lot here.
Shepard said kinda and Locke said he's getting there.
Yeah, Lando said no, you're mean to ask that.
Lincoln said almost and Lily said nah.
So I feel pretty good with this support card.
Could have been a lot worse on this front, you know?
No one came forward and said we were old.
Well, I mean, my kids said I was getting there.
Getting there, but you're not there yet.
Right.
Maybe we'll never get there.
I thought this was interesting
because I've gone on record as talking about my favorite color and not having one.
What is your dad's favorite color?
Shepard said, when I was little, I repeatedly asked him and got, I like all the colors multiple times.
So he grilled you.
So he grilled you.
Well, the funny thing is,
is like, I don't think that I ever said specifically I like all the colors.
What I said is that
I take issue with the question
of what your favorite color is.
Kind of like, what's your favorite child?
It depends on what we're doing.
It depends on if it's like what I'm wearing,
it's like, well, what else am I wearing?
Where am I going?
What kind of room am I in?
You know, it's like, so I've gone on the record
as just saying gray is my favorite color
because it feels like it's just all the colors put together.
But for some reason, Locke has not picked up on this
and he just said green.
It's just green.
It's a strange world that we live in
when you feel like you need to go on the record
about something like what's your favorite color.
It's like, you know, we said things over time
and then we have mythical beasts
who kind of track what we say and, you know,
how our stories morph over time and things like that.
So that's kind of part of what you mean, right?
It's like, well, I'm on record saying I'm gray.
So now I gotta stick with that.
And before, Shepard says you're on record,
all the colors, very inclusive.
Yeah, but I think that's his interpretation
of my actual philosophy.
I don't have a favorite color.
Unapologetically, my favorite color is blue,
which Lando knows and Lincoln knows.
Lily has no clue is what she said.
Never talked about it.
I just, I don't think she valued,
she's like you, she doesn't value favorite colors.
Yeah, color is subjective, literally.
That reminds me though, I was watching,
I can't remember what it was,
I was watching, I can't remember what it was. I was watching some reality show
where there was some kind of dating element to it.
And it was one of those things where
they were showing an interview with the woman
and she was saying like,
"'He's such a great conversationalist."
And then they cut to the footage and the guy was like,
"'What's your favorite color and the guy was like, what's your favorite color?
It's like, this woman is starved for great conversation.
If she thinks what's your, don't ever ask,
don't ever ask what's your favorite color on a date.
Like don't do that.
I think a lot of people determine whether a question
is a good question if they have a good answer.
So maybe she had like a really amazing answer.
Well, what's a good answer besides a color?
Or I mean, at least it's an opportunity for me
to give my philosophy on color choosing.
But I still don't think it's a good question.
No, you could paint a word picture.
You could say,
the delicate changing of the colors of the maple leaves
in early fall when the sun is setting in the west
as it always does,
and I am dozing off for a nice little nap in the woods.
Yeah, well, that's a good answer,
but I'm saying that the question is a red flag.
Not that this episode is about dating questions,
but we were telling our kids the story of our engagement,
which we've told them before, but like sometimes we go back through and tell them the story of our engagement which we've told them before but like sometimes we go back through and tell them the story of our engagement and we're telling the original story which sets up
being at the macaroni grill you know the whole story so we were talking about the first conversation
that like extended conversation that we ever had and then jesse was talking about how I was asking all these questions and then she talked about how one
of the questions I asked was if you could have a superpower
what would it be?
And you know in 2020,
Like a journalist.
In 2020 I don't think that's a good question.
Like dating has changed but in 1998
that was a pretty good question.
But you gotta update your question game.
You know what I'm saying?
Like people were just starting to ask
like the superpower question 20 years ago.
You can't be breaking out the superpower question
on a date, much less the favorite color question.
You gotta get new questions.
Right, like if you're gonna, if you trim your toenails
and then you realize you need to trim your fingernails do you
stop trimming your toenails
and start trimming your fingernails and then go back
to your toenails
do you finish your toenails
and then go to your fingernails or do you wait until
later so that
some of that toenail gunk can just
kind of mellow out
before you hit your fingers I don't know if that's first date material so that some of that toenail gunk can just kind of mellow out
before you hit your fingers.
I don't know if that's first date material, maybe third.
What is your favorite memory with your dad?
You asking me this?
Sure.
What's your favorite memory with your dad?
That's a different kind of episode.
My dad took me to a Travis Tripp concert one time.
We'll do that later.
And George Jones came on the screen
and sang the Star Spangled Banner.
That was at Walnut Creek Amphitheater.
Pretty cool.
Which question did you say?
Favorite memory?
What's your favorite memory with your dad?
Oh, Lando said kid space.
That's when we went and we were climbing up
in that thing, right?
Yeah, I thought about that as like a highlight
of the year, year before last.
I'm glad you remembered that.
Thank you, son.
Lincoln's favorite memory with my dad, he did not answer.
I mean, this is page two.
Makes you feel good.
Yeah, I know, page two of the survey.
You did wake him up, you woke him up this morning.
This morning's gone, actually.
Lily said her favorite memory was watching Supernatural,
which is a show that she was very into at the time
when we were on tour.
Yeah, when Lily just loved,
she talks about it all the time about,
you know, last summer when we,
when Lincoln and Lily went on tour,
she talks about that all the time.
And then there was one time when,
I think we were staying in a hotel room one night
and I was like, tell me about this Supernatural.
So I got into the show with her.
She was kind of explaining,
she was showing me one of her favorite episodes
and kind of explaining it to me.
You still into it?
No, but I do understand why she's into it.
Shepherd said us going bike riding when I was little.
And so he didn't pick a specific time it's just the i guess me teaching
him how to ride a bike which happened in california um and then lock said hiking ravenrock
really so this is going all the way back to north carolina which i honestly did not really remember that I had taken them down to Raven Rock, past Lillington.
I guess we hiked it a couple of times.
I'd love to go back there, man.
He had to be like five years old at the time.
Oh wow, cool spot, a lot of good memories.
I'd love to go back, make that hike once we can do that.
Well, the interesting thing about this
is this is one of my favorite memories with my dad is,
and we would go all the time.
To Raven Rock?
It was a very regular thing.
Yeah.
Oh.
He would be like, like after church on a Sunday,
he'd be like, let's go to Raven Rock.
And we go and we walk down to the rock.
It was like a mile hike.
Walk back up.
Through the woods and then all of a sudden,
you get to this ledge and there's a whole rock
that then you can, they built stairs
that you walk down the stairs on the rock face.
100 stairs.
100 stairs.
And then you're down at the Cape Fear River.
And an amazing rock formation.
I mean, a truly amazing, like overhanging rock formation.
This is also my specific favorite memory from Raven Rock
was when my dad took us down to the fish traps,
which is the longer path that takes you down to the upper rapids.
Right.
And he threw me into the river to teach me how to swim in the river.
I just got up next to the river, and there was a little chute in the rapids. Really? And he just picked me up and just threw me in there, and I just washed up next to the river and there was a little chute, little rap in the chute in the rapids.
Really?
And he just like picked me up
and just threw me in there.
And I just washed down the river,
which is not necessarily something I would do
with my children now,
but it's probably one of the reasons
I like swimming in the river.
That's cool.
What is the most stereotypical dad thing
that your dad has done recently?
Lando said, take the ice cream at night and eat it.
So we've been getting special Ben and Jerry's flavors,
and they've been monitoring closely how much is left in each one.
And sometimes they'll go to grab it, and there'll be like just a little thin layer left.
And they knew there was more than half before
because I snuck in there the night before.
And I ate some.
I do that, I own that.
I mean, it's ice cream in the freezer.
What am I supposed to do?
Let somebody else eat the last of it?
I'll eat all of it except a little bit
and then hey, you at least get a taste.
That doesn't strike me as a stereotypical dad thing.
That's sort of like a teenager thing
of like eating the last of something
and leaving a little bit.
That's something my teenager would do.
Okay.
Lincoln did not ask.
He was really running out of steam at this point.
Apparently he was already nodding off.
And Lily said, organize the garage.
That is my domain.
I'm due to get another organization.
It's piling up in there.
Shepard said,
I can't really think of one,
but I think being a dad is a pretty stereotypical dad thing.
Having children.
I love the way his mind works.
Can't argue with that. Locke said,
talk about his knee tendonitis.
Which I really don't think I've been talking
about my knee tendonitis very much.
I mean, I hurt my knee severely.
Okay, there you go. In January.
Yeah, so talking about a general injury
or talking about something that hurts,
I guess that's a typical dad thing.
And I do talk about things hurting a lot
because things do, it's just part of it.
Yeah.
Okay, what is one thing you've always wanted
to ask your dad?
Again, Lincoln was out by this point.
Lily said, what is the real reason
you drink smoothies out of mugs?
I did not know this really annoyed her.
The reason is because it's already dirty
and it's stable to pour stuff into it
without the glass tipping over. I mean, I have lots of reasons for everything. It's stable to pour stuff into it without the glass tipping over.
I mean, I have lots of reasons for everything.
It's stable. That I do.
You know?
Lando wanted to ask, why do you fart when you do?
When you do.
If he had his way, I would never fart.
And I'm just, and you know, it's my house too.
Yeah.
So why do I fart when I do?
Because I have a fart to fart.
Do you guys fart audibly in front of each other?
I do.
Lincoln does, that's it.
Nobody else does.
Really?
Yeah, everyone in my house does.
There are different types of households
and I guess there's a spectrum
because you're kind of in the middle.
You've got almost half do and half don't.
I love it.
Shepherd said, the one thing he's always wanted to ask me
was why can't we get another dog?
Well, he's asked me that many times.
So I guess he's just putting it in here for one more go.
And this is very interesting from Locke.
Do you actually like the way beans taste?
Ooh, yeah.
Which this is getting at,
this is an interesting thing, right?
Because there is kind of what you were getting at before,
which is when you live your life as a form of entertainment for people,
you say things and you do things,
you say and you do things for show.
So I've talked about how my hatred of cats,
I mean, I'm a dog person and I don't want a cat
and I don't particularly like cats,
but a hatred of cats is something that came from
a hot take.
Being in character.
Yeah.
And so I don't hate cats,
but it's fun to make people think you hate cats
because they get their panties in a wad
and it's entertaining to me.
All right, so is that true for beans?
Are we about to rock our world?
You don't like the taste of beans?
No, no, I do love the taste of beans.
And- Really?
I love the taste of beans.
Do you have any idea how many beans I've eaten
and how many beans I've made during this time?
Okay, hey, I think we're all happy to hear it.
On Saturday I made a giant pot of beans
and most of my family eats them as well, it's not just me.
But no, I do like the taste of beans legitimately.
I like the taste of beans, that's not an act.
It's not an act.
Seems like Locke should know that though
if he lives with you.
I just found it interesting that he, if he lives with you. Seems a little suspicious.
I found it interesting that he asked the question
in that way.
But it's true, I like beans.
What is your dad's favorite thing to do with his free time?
Mm, okay.
Locke had an interesting perspective on this.
Stress out about work.
Huh, is that true?
So that's his perspective,
is that I'm stressing out about work. Interestingly, is that true? So that's his perspective, is that I'm stressing out about work.
Interestingly, Shep said,
"'Meditate slash work more.
"'He is like a working machine.
"'It's insane.'"
Wow.
They both think that you work a lot
or worry about working a lot.
And it's funny because I think that they,
because I've been at home.
Yeah.
There's no real work day anymore.
And so even on the weekends,
sometimes I'll be like writing something or doing something.
And a lot of times they're like,
hey dad, can we do this?
Or do you wanna do this?
And I'm like, hold on, let me finish this.
Or I gotta do this right now.
And I think they're just getting this perspective
that he's always working,
which I do work probably more than I should.
Lando said my favorite thing to do
in my free time was nap.
Lincoln said my favorite thing to do in my free time
was sit in the hammock.
And then Lily said,
favorite thing to do in my free time
was sleep outside on the swing.
So my kids think that I work a lot and your kids think that you sleep a lot.
Yeah.
What does that tell you?
Probably tells you something that I didn't want you to know, which is I sleep a lot.
When you're thinking about work,
I'm swinging and sleeping.
Sorry, man, sorry, man.
You know what, keep it up.
Don't change a thing.
It's going great. Oh, I won't.
Okay, okay, last question.
If you could pick one celebrity to play your dad in a movie,
who would it be and why?
Lincoln and Lilly bowed out on this one.
This is the holy grail.
This is their opportunity to really let me have it.
Are you hearing that Nicolas Cage
is gonna play the Tiger King?
Tiger King, yeah.
I hope that's true.
I hope it's true. hope it's true He'll be great
Lando said
I would pick Hannah Gatsby
The Kiwi stand-up comedian
Who had the Netflix special
He said because her hair
Is like Dad's
Your youngest son
Picked a woman to play.
I mean, he's getting on the Rachel Maddow bandwagon,
but he's taking it up a notch.
But no, no, here's the thing.
Lando does not have it in himself to insult anyone.
So he's not doing this as a joke.
He's doing this as his honest take
is that Hannah Gatsby would make a great link.
You know what, that's great.
You know what? It's great.
I watched a little bit of the special
and then we got distracted by something
I never went back to it,
but I will take it as a sincere compliment.
Well, this would be an interesting set
if Hannah Gatsby did play you because Locke said Jason Momoa.
Oh gosh.
Could you imagine Jason Momoa and Hannah Gatsby?
That's a buddy comedy.
Whereas Shep said Link because it would be interesting.
So Shepard likes the idea of us doing something
where you play me and I guess I would then play you.
No, I would play you and Hannah Gatsby would play me.
That's the tick.
Well then that would just be twins,
like Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
There's no irony in that.
That's not the point of that movie.
But I have not seen that movie.
It would be twins without irony.
Yeah.
I don't know if twins holds up.
So I can't say I would suggest that.
So what have we learned here?
I mean, our kids, I think our kids
are much more level headed than we are.
You know, some of them were wise enough to know that,
listen, they didn't need to fill out all these questions
in order to win our love.
They know that it's unconditional
and that we may not be the best fathers,
but we love them unconditionally.
We love them with everything we've got.
Actually, I didn't get any of that from the survey.
I'm just trying to project.
I would say that I didn't,
I mean, I didn't learn anything groundbreaking,
but my suspicions that my kids pick up on things like
the tropish dad things.
Yeah.
Those are the things that loom large in their memory.
So I need to be less tropish.
I think I'm gonna make a shirt
that says, get with the program.
That's good, I like that.
Okay, thank you to our kids for filling that out.
I'm gonna close with a wreck,
and I'm going to wreck Mike McCarg's book,
Yes.
A Miracle and a Pain in the Ass,
Embracing the Emotions, Habits, and Mystery
that Make You, You.
Now you know we had science Mike McCarg,
our really good friend on GMM recently
for the Leaving Things in Citric Acid.
And both of us talked extensively about his book
on our social medias.
Because I'm not exaggerating,
we're not just saying this because Mike is a friend,
but this book is very, I think very timely,
given the fact that there's just,
there's an opportunity for introspection right now.
You're spending a lot of time with yourself.
You're always with yourself, but you're not,
we're sitting with ourselves a lot more.
And I think things are coming up, it's like,
what, why am I feeling this?
Why am I acting this way?
And a lot of those questions are answered in a,
in a benevolent way.
So you can be kind to yourself
as you begin to understand parts of yourself
that you didn't.
And my, I mean, one of the reasons I love Mike
and I love this book is he approaches things
with a like diligently researched scientific standpoint.
diligently researched scientific standpoint.
And it's not, there's no woo in this. It is like, this is stuff that is factual and true.
It's not some fluffy self-help thing.
It's like, this is what science tells us about people.
And this is how those facts about people and this is how those facts about people
and humanity translate into you and your tendencies,
both good and bad.
And it's extremely compassionate and non-judgmental.
You know, I think you could think that reading a book,
understanding why you're a pain in your own ass is
that it could, you know,
it could be indicting, but he has a great way of just, and this is who he is as a person, you know,
it's like he's loving and accepting
and that translates into how you process yourself,
which is very powerful.
And a lot of times you don't know
that you're a pain in the ass to yourself.
You're just mad.
You're mad at everybody else.
You're mad at yourself.
And you haven't even stopped to process like,
oh, if I take a one step back and get perspective on this,
that anger a lot of times will just kind of melt away
when you gain perspective.
So get it wherever books are sold.
You're a miracle and a pain in the ass.
It's also on Audible, read by Mike. He's got a good, soothing voice. So it's a great Audible listen as well.
All right. Hashtag Ear Biscuits. Let us know if you want to also conduct this survey with your
own kids or if you don't have kids, you could somebody else that is meaningful in your life.
It's a fun exercise.
So I invite you to think about doing that yourself.
Maybe we can post,
we can post a link to these questions
that people can print it off for the kids in their lives.
Yeah, let's do that.
All right, we'll see you next week.