Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 241: If We Could Relive A Moment From Our Lives | Ear Biscuits Ep.241

Episode Date: May 18, 2020

Looking back at two very different point in their lives, R&L discuss what specific point they would relive if there were no consequences that followed. Listen to R&L share those moments as well as their slightly controversial opinion on music through the generations on this episode of Ear Biscuits! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This, this, this, this is mythical. Shop Best Buy's ultimate smartphone sale today. Get a Best Buy gift card of up to $200 on select phone activations with major carriers. Visit your nearest Best Buy store today. Terms and conditions apply. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Rhett. And I'm Link, this week at my round table of dining. And Rhett, I can't actually see your table from my live chat screen.

Same table as last time, I've got the square original. The classic card table. Original Rhett and card table. Original red link table. Yes. But, hey, I've switched rooms, man. As you can see, I'm in front of my own skin wall. Yeah, you are. You're halfway skinned.

Halfway unskinned. I came in here because I thought there might be better acoustics. I don't know if there is. There's a rug. I think it's still pretty. There's a rug. There think it's still pretty. There's a rug. There's also a child's bed. Which I came in here and I was like.

Yeah, there's a single bed. Link has put a- I wouldn't call it a child's bed. It is a child's bed. It is a white bed that has drawers on one side of it. Every characteristic about this bed is a child's bed. It's a single bed and yeah, it's got drawers underneath. It's an Ikea bed.

It's kind of a vibe killer. I've just got to be honest with you. It's kind of a vibe killer. Well, it was in my garage and it's kind of a garage killer and I'm like, you know what? What? I bet you in that creative house we could use a bed. That is the bed that when Britton lived in my closet for over a year What? I bet you in that creative house, we could use a bed.

That is the bed that when Britton lived in my closet for over a year, I call it a closet, but it was just like an office, a very small office. It barely fit that single bed. And enough- It barely fit Britton too based on the length. Enough room to walk. Listen, I slept in a single bed until I got married. All the way through college.

I slept in a single bed, but it was extra long. Extra long? I couldn't sleep in this bed. I mean, I could, I guess I could sleep on my side. But I mean, I just, not that we have done anything over here that makes- We haven't done anything over there. It's just a bed and a room. Right, but like, I know, but it could be like a cool couch that you could also sleep on, Not that we have done anything over here. We haven't done anything over there. It's just a bed and a room.

I know, but it could be like a cool couch that you could also sleep on. Like a bed, a child's bed, a bed. I mean, we don't need a bed. We'll talk about this later. I didn't need a bed in my garage, so I put the bed over there. Have you laid on that bed?

Well, let's sell it. It's got a nice mattress on it. It's nice. I haven't laid on it. I just moved it. Because it was right here. And you know, oh, you moved it. To the on it. It's nice. I haven't laid on it. I just moved it. Cause it was right here. And you know, oh, you moved it. To the other side.

That's right. Yeah, cause it was up against my skin wall. You bedded my skin wall. Well, I wouldn't put it in those terms. We, to complete my thought. What are we talking about? Are going, in an effort to continue to have a sense of connection amidst such isolation,

we ask you, Ear Biscuit-eer, to set up some topics of conversation, some questions that we could discuss between the two of us. And we've got some good conversation starters here. We got some good questions from you guys. You wanna get into the first one? Hold on. Did you give the prompt?

Or we just, I mean, you kind of gave a version of the prompt. I don't remember what the prompt was, honestly. I think it was, you've been in isolation. Yeah. Or you've had a lot of time to think about things. What have you been thinking about alone that we could talk about together? And give you definitively correct answers. She says, if you had an opportunity to go back and relive a part of your life, would you?

By doing so, just to clarify, she says, it wouldn't change the present. You would do it more to relive an amazing experience or event that you forget? If so, what part of your life would you choose? Now, I love questions that don't have consequences. Because, you know, I'm sure in the past, we've talked about like time travel or like, we definitely talked about points in our past that we've experienced. But we definitely talked about points in our past that we've experienced. But there's always- We definitely talked about points in our past that we've experienced.

That's kind of our entire existence. But I think maybe we've talked about reliving stuff, but I always get wigged out about, what are the ramifications? Yeah, the fact that she took that completely out. Yeah, so first of all, I mean, I think that for me, immediately when you add the qualifier of, you won't change it, well, of course,

if I had the option to just go back and relive one moment, of course I'm gonna do it, but you have to choose one moment. Oh yeah, I know, it's like, do you have something in mind? Cause I'm having difficulty narrowing it down to one. I do have something in mind? Because I'm having difficulty narrowing it down to one. I do have something and you might think that it would, some of the typical answers that come to mind are things

like, well, at the very first moment I met my wife or my wedding day or the birth of my kids, I have to choose one. And while all those would be candidates for me, I feel like, I don't feel like in the moment that those things were happening, and this may be a reason to go back to them,

I don't feel like I was thinking the right things in those moments or really like really like experiencing them in the right way, but when I did start thinking about a moment where, in the moment, I said to myself, this is as good as it gets. I have a candidate. Okay. You were there, you were there, but you were tangentially there.

Hmm. We were surfing. Should I guess? Oh, you were surfing, okay. Oh, okay. And. I think I know what you're gonna say. And I caught a wave, and a dolphin caught the wave with me.

Yeah. And I was there, and you went by me. And surfed with me. And you told me was there and you went by me. And you told me afterward, did you see that? And I was like, yeah, I saw you catch the wave. It was great. And you said there was a dolphin in the wave. And I did not see that.

So can I go back to see the dolphin? Well, I mean, you should probably have your own that doesn't involve watching me do something. No. When you go back, I'll be there. So I want you to say on this next wave, look for dolphins in the wave. And then in the future, which is now,

as we're having this conversation, my answer might be, remember that time that I saw that dolphin in the wave and I swam over to it and you were riding the wave and I was riding the dolphin? Well, but here's the thing, by doing that you would, even though she said you wouldn't change it, you would change the moment if you tried to ride the dolphin

because I was riding the wave and it was like, you know, we hadn't been surfing that long, like catching a wave and like really catching a wave was still a big deal and it was like, you know, we hadn't been surfing that long, like catching a wave and like really catching a wave was still a big deal. And it was one of those days where it was just a low, a long, slow, strong wave. So you had time to like think and experience it, you know? And then I looked down and there's a fricking,

the smartest mammal in the ocean, besides me, is just sitting there just hovering in the water next to me going the same speed. And I was like, it can't get any better than this. You know what would make it better? Your life just peaked. If it was nighttime and you were surfing on one of those waves and dolphin was in it,

but it was one of those iridescent glowing waves that's happening off the coast of California right now. Like there's people. Is it still happening? And you know, I don't know if it's still happening, but I mean. I think it was a short window. As of like within the past week it was happening

and I wanted to drive and see that, but I have not done that. But of course they're opening, they've opened the California beaches for, you can't sunbathe, but you can surf and you can jog. You can do like activities. And guess who bought a new surfboard? You did? Your buddy. You bought a new surfboard? You did?

Your buddy. You bought a new surfboard? I bought a- You haven't even been using the one you got. I bought a regular surfboard. I bought an 11 foot long board. Because I'm going, I have to do regular surfing, man. I have to get where I don't have to have the paddle

because I want to be able to go to like Malibu and surf without people looking at me like I'm a dork. I have to do that. I have to get to that place. I've made up my mind. So what are you gonna do? You gonna start surfing, you gonna ask me to go and then I'm gonna be out there on a paddle board?

You didn't even include me in this. Now, then I'm gonna be out there on a paddle board? You didn't even include me in this. Now, if I'm gonna go out there, I'm gonna be that guy with the paddle board. Well, the places that we typically go, there's a lot of people with paddle boards and there's also people who go out, one person's on a paddle board and like somebody else is not on a paddle board.

I think that's fine. It's just if I get where I'm good, and then I'm like, hey man, I'm going to Malibu. At that point, you have to make a decision. And by the way, I have another- And that would be kind of late. Well, you told me that you can't paddle because of your shoulder.

So I don't know what to do about that. I think that's it. Yeah, I just don't know what to do about that. I've been practicing my pop-ups. I've been just out in the yard, just popping up. So you ordered a surfboard and it was delivered to your house? A big honking surfboard?

11 feet, yeah, so really, really long. But I'm a very, very big man. You can probably paddleboard it. It's basically a paddleboard without a paddle. My paddleboard is not even that long. No, it's longer or the same length as my existing paddleboard, but it's much narrower. Well, I definitely miss going surfing.

And now they've opened up the surf, so you can go surfing again. Yeah, I was gonna tell you, next chance we get, we should go. And I'm gonna go on my existing paddle board. The thing that I probably have lost the ability to do, because it's been so long since we've been, but I'll probably pick it up faster than you will the thing that I probably have lost the ability to do because it's been so long since we've been,

but I'll probably pick it up faster than you will trying to hop on one of those non-paddle boards. Here's the thing, I'm just gonna wait. If you just take off with it, then I'm gonna be tempted to try it. I don't wanna be left in the dust. And it's not like a, I didn't get like a, I still got a soft top.

I didn't get like a, I mean, I got like a surf tech. Is that like the Walmart brand or something? No, it's like the kind you learn on. Okay. You know, it's still very not intimidating. And like, if I hit somebody with the board, they're not gonna die. Okay.

Yeah. But eventually I will get a board that I could kill people with. My dad told me that when we moved to California when I was three years old, I remember not at three, but like at five, my dad was talking about the surfers at Malibu. He was like, you realize that if you go out there

and you get in the way of the surfers, they have really sharp boards and they'll shoot the board into your head and kill you. On purpose? On purpose. As opposed to on purpose. Talk about territory. Which is what I would be if I went back to relive that memory.

It's interesting that you picked that. See, because my mind immediately went to things in my past that were extremely meaningful experiences that I don't think I approached it correctly, which you alluded to. Yeah, I mean, I'm too worried about that. I'm too worried about going back and I don't know.

I picked a moment where I felt like I did appreciate it in the moment so that I could just go back and do it exactly the same way again. That's what struck me, but I get what you're saying. Yeah, and that is why the first thing that popped into my head was my wedding day because I think it, first of all, I know that I didn't enjoy myself.

I was like a nervous wreck. The night before at the rehearsal dinner, I was a nervous wreck. You know, we've been through this. And, you know, I just, when I think back on that, I try to apply that to my life now, but it's so hard to be in a moment saying,

you know what, I'm gonna enjoy this moment. Because whatever it is that concerns you about it, and with the wedding day, I can't even tell you everything I was concerned about. It was just everyone else's expectations, which is totally wrong. This is my day and Christy's day. Why on earth am I so concerned about everyone else's experience and everything like that?

You know, I would totally have them soaking in and have a much better time. I would also get really get a kick out of, cause everybody that we both knew pretty much was in attendance. So it would be a way to rub elbows with everybody and have, I mean, I had a moment with everybody at like the wedding reception

and, but it's like, I don't even remember it. It was such a blur. So I think it's like a cheat code to have, to have one moment in time where I have access to everyone up until that point in my life that was meaningful. I had a meaningful relationship with, was there from my past and my then present, you know? So I think I've hacked it with that one.

I think that's actually my choice. And the fact that you couldn't change anything. So then you could go back and it wouldn't just be about savoring it and enjoying it. You could also be like, what if I did this, like Groundhog Day, there are no consequences. What if I just dropped my pants in the middle of my wedding?

Like, wouldn't it be fun to see how everybody would react? That is my biggest regret, that I didn't drop my pants during my wedding ceremony. No, but if there were no consequences, wouldn't you just do something to stir it up? My hesitancy in choosing a moment like that was, if I go back too far, I think I would just be thinking about things like,

well, my body feels different. You know what I'm saying? Whereas going back to surfing like three years ago, pretty much the same guy. Like I wouldn't be thinking like, man, like I feel so spry right now. I'm gonna run or whatever. If we increased our frequency of surfing,

the chances of that happening again, it's not out of the question. Oh, I know. Surfing with dolphins is actually, yeah, it's something that happens. So. It could happen again. Yeah. But I'm not getting married again.

We've surfed with dolphins multiple times. I'm not planning on it. Of course, I'll be out there on a paddle board and like I'll be able to go with the pod and you'll be just, you'll be all alone. I am worried about being in shape enough. It's, it wears you out. Yeah, I just don't, my shoulders

and just like upper body strength, like I don't have any chest muscles. I don't think you need them. When I went to my physical therapist guru, you know, in addition to all the things that I told you that she told me about inviting my weird rib to the party. How's that going? Has it come to the party yet?

I don't, I can touch it now a little bit. I can touch my rib now. Touching it right now, but it still freaks me out. The first thing she did was she said, you don't have any, you chest muscle. She basically, it's like you show up. Thanks a lot. She was like, she basically told me I had a bird chest.

And I paid her for that. Right. You know, I was paying her. Some people pay for insults. It's a thing. I think it's like an S&M thing. I would go. So I guess that's my answer.

I would go back to that physical therapy appointment so I could, that was a wild ride, man. I mean, I missed my physical, I noticed everything about my life that was weird, you know, that I don't get to go out and do, like be critiqued by my physical therapist. But we can go surfing. But you know, and we'll move on in a second,

but the real thing that got me going on this, getting a regular surfboard, first of all, I had like a foam board that is not, I went out on it that one time, I'm too big for it. Like it's not rated for, it was rated for like 200 pounds. I weighed like 220. I needed like a legit board that'll hold me up.

But the thing I was thinking is that we've got these ideas we've been talking about with like, we've got some surfing related ideas that I actually wanna get serious about. And they require like actually regular surfing and not having your hands on a paddle. And so I was like, I just gotta learn how to do this. Well, thanks for the heads up, is all I'm saying.

I mean, would you have gone out, you wouldn't have gone out and bought a board. No. You would have said, well, let's see how you do with yours. So that's why I haven't told you about it. Here we are. I was just like, next time we go, I'll just take my board out

and then eventually I'll get good and you'll be like, man, you don't even have a paddle. And I'll be like, yeah, you can have this too. Hmm. Are you gonna let me try it? Yeah. I might have some hidden ability to do it all of a sudden since last time we did it.

It's all about, we gotta get in better shape. It's all about endurance. That's the only, that's the X factor. You just gotta have the ability to get out there. It's all about knowing. And still have energy to stand up. When to exude, exert yourself. Once you understand how to do something,

then you can channel your exertion and not waste a bunch of energy doing all the wrong things. You know, that's true with any type of physical thing. You know, I'm an athlete, I understand these principles. And I actually have been watching YouTube videos about, we did so many things wrong that day we went out with regular boards, so many things wrong.

Oh, yeah. So many things wrong. Okay. Yeah. I'll show you the YouTube videos. I can benefit from that. Wherever you're going, you better believe American Express will be right there with you. Heading for adventure? We'll help you breeze through security. Meeting friends a world away?

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Benefits vary by card. Terms apply. JT1, why is the music of the 70s, 80s, and 90s so good? Is it just nostalgia? Or is it because music was truly epically good then, and now it's just not as good slash harder to find good music? Oftentimes, the music now is good. That is good, has strong influence from the 70s, 80s, or 90s.

Well, first of all, I agree that the 70s and 80s are good in terms of music. Now, 90s, I feel like you gotta be more specific in order to say it's good. I don't think everything in the 90s is good. And I think that kind of gets at where I ultimately am gonna pick apart JT with an A and an E stance on this.

So my interpretation, I agree with you. And I think the reason for that perspective, which a lot of people have, I've got two thoughts on this. The first is the further you get away from a time period, the more it crystallizes. Yeah, and you're not hearing, you're not hearing the,

like only what's worthy of sticking around has stuck around. So when you think of that decade, you only think about the stuff that's stood the test of time. Has staying power. Yeah, so it's not that the 70s or the 80s, I mean, well, first of all, it probably did have less music, and there is more, which is a factor.

There's more and more music because it's easier and easier to make music independently than it was back in the day. So as time has passed, there's just more and more music. So I guess it's easier for something to stand out. But it isn't like there wasn't a lot of different music happening in the 70s or the 80s.

It's just not all of it stuck around. And we're still pretty close to the 90s. Like, you know, people like us, that was, we were in high school, we were in college at that time. I'll make a tangential statement, which I think might be controversial, or at least people would disagree with it.

I think that hip hop now is better than it's ever been. Period. So to me, this is an exception. This is my personal exception to this, is that it's the best it's ever been. I mean, when you go back and listen to, when you listen to hip hop, it's very, especially like early hip hop, I'm talking like 80s.

Cool Bodhi. Yeah. I mean, if you go back to the inception, it's very exciting to listen to from a nostalgic standpoint because it was just starting to bud. And now it's blossomed into all different genres. And it changes so fast and it makes use of, it seems like everything that catches leads to the next thing and benefits from it. I mean, I love music for a number of reasons, but I love that aspect of it.

When JT was talking about the strong influence of the 70s, 80s and 90s, or basically you're just saying, music influences music influences music and it moves forward. But I just feel like now there's so much to enjoy and there's so many sub genres of hip hop that early on like classic, you just didn't,

you know, it was still forming. And so there's more to enjoy, it's better now, especially because it's, the whole conceit of hip hop from a production standpoint is taking things and then repurposing and remaking them, you know, between sampling and splicing and looping and all of that, I just think is better. What was the last thing that filled you with wonder

that took you away from your desk or your car in traffic? Well, for us, and I'm going to guess for some of you, that thing is... Anime! Hi, I'm Nick Friedman. I'm Lee Alec Murray. And I'm Leah President. And welcome to Crunchyroll Presents The Anime Effect.

It's a weekly news show. With the best celebrity guests. And hot takes galore. So join us every Friday wherever you get your podcasts and watch full video episodes on Crunchyroll or on the Crunchyroll YouTube channel. Well, okay. I have the second part of my thought actually ties into what you're talking about. And I'm gonna use the NBA as an analogy, right? And we both been watching the last dance,

which I hope that wasn't gonna be your wreck. We can talk, if it was, we can tease a wreck, go for it. So if you care about sports, and based on the couple of times I've said things about sports on Twitter, I get the impression that the Mythical Beast herd is not a lot of sports fans, but there are some. But this Last Dance ESPN documentary

about the Bulls, Chicago Bulls, and Michael Jordan is phenomenal, is one of the best things I've ever watched in entertainment, period. If you're into basketball and you're our age, so if you can, if you lived through those seasons in the, that was what, 98? 97, 98. They basically go through Jordan's career, but they really focus on the 97, 98 season. Now, one of the things that comes up a lot of times is this hypothetical conversation

about how good would Jordan be now? And I know you're watching it with Lincoln. I watch it with Locke. And so we're watching it with these teenage boys who are really into basketball, love the NBA. And Locke kept leaning over during this thing. And he's like, I just didn't know he was that good. I didn't appreciate how good Jordan was.

Yeah. Now, but then when you ask the hypothetical question of, well, how would Jordan be if you just took him, literally you took 1995 Michael Jordan and you just took him? Literally, you took 1995 Michael Jordan and you just put him on an NBA court now. You know, that's it. He just, he's there. How would he do?

And I feel pretty strongly that he would just be sort of a middle of the road player initially. Now, I think that he would adjust pretty quickly and become one of the, he would become an all- become one of the, he would become an all-star, most likely. But it's not a cut and dry situation. Now, the reason I say that, and you actually get this when you watch the documentary, you know, Jordan wasn't playing basketball in the off season. He didn't even start lifting weights until he lost to the Pistons two years in a row.

Yeah. And was pissed off about it. Pistoned off, let's say. Yeah. The system that generates basketball players now is a completely different system that has been fine-tuned. You know, he didn't even make his varsity, the story goes, you know, and they talk about the documentary, he didn't make his varsity team his sophomore year. But now kids who are going to be, and you look at the other bulls, like Scottie Pippen going to like Central Arkansas or whatever. And then like Horace Grant went to some other school that nobody, a small school.

Grant went to some other school that nobody, a small school. That doesn't happen anymore because the system that creates these NBA players at that level, their nutrition, their fitness, their practice, their insights that they get, their coaching, everything has been fine-tuned and it is definitively better. Now, you might be like, it's not as rough or whatever. But if you were to take LeBron, as developed as he is, and you just throw him back into that system, I think he would dominate even more than he does because of the system that he's come up in.

Now, I think the same holds true in music, but I think there's something special about that time because one of the things that makes it so special is that the opportunity to innovate and stand above the competition in the way that Jordan did is something that is so hard to do. There's not gonna be another Michael Jordan because the delta on the opportunity for innovation

is smaller than it's ever been because the system is so efficient at producing excellence, right? And so I think the same thing has happened in music. And also the accessibility for people to create music on their own has gotten where we are just overwhelmed with really, I mean, there's a lot of good music. There's also a lot of bad music because there's so much opportunity. And I just think we've gotten to a place where finding the special connection with music is harder to do than it was at that point. And it doesn't mean that it's not good or better

or the music was, but the music was, let's just say more special back when the threshold or the threshold, the barrier to entry to actually make music was bigger. Yeah. That's my theory. Okay, well, there's two parts to that. I mean, I think I agree that the fact that

there's so many more artists who can be heard that it's hard for any one artist to really pop. I mean, of course it still happens. I mean, you've got superstars. You've got your Lady Gagas. You got your Drakes. But does it feel different than back in the era of Michael Jackson? Yeah, because there's still so much competition.

I mean, Drake can't go away that long. He's, you know, he's got, his features have to be just as groundbreaking as his own albums or mixtapes. And you know, it has to keep coming in order to remain relevant. You just can't, you've got to work really hard for that because there's so much competition. The part about the system though,

I think the analogy doesn't work there. I mean, if you look at, if you just look at country music and how the Nashville sound came about and there was a whole, there was a manufacturing process around, around that, around the early days of rock and roll. I mean, you got the, you know, you've got Glenn Campbell and the, the, the name's leaving me at this point, but like the super group of studio musicians who are just creating, just churning,

they just show up every day and churn out these tracks for some singer-songwriter or somebody who's a pretty face or a pretty voice. So there was a machine for decades. But it was a machine for decades. But it was a machine based on pure talent. Like Glen Campbell is sitting there like physically interacting with a sonic instrument

to make noise. Whereas now a 12 year old is in his room with garage band and create something and it's just like it it's not that it doesn't take time i was talking about the wrecking crew the the los angeles studio based crew that brought in that that's not country music but they don't but don't you think that that's i guess what i'm saying is and maybe this does go against my analogy i think that that the wrecking crew was doing something that's more special than the 12 year old

in their room with GarageBand. Well, yeah, but- I'm not saying that it's not awesome, but I'm just saying it isn't as special because how many wrecking crews can there be? Well, there's only a limited number of how many there could be. They turned out a bunch of stuff.

But how many 12 year olds can get GarageBand? Millions. Yeah, they made a lot of hits, but again, I think it's a, but there are still people who are making amazing music using those tools, and there's a lot more opportunity

for true artists to come out of the woodwork. And I think that they're, you know, I think it, but we're so close to it, you know, I think time will tell. Time will tell if, are we gonna be listening to My Strange Addiction, you know, 20 years from now? Probably.

I think that the simple fact that there's, it's so clouded with so many more options over time and because of the revolution of digital music, digital music that replicates analog music, I feel like you're going to look back and it's going to be much more difficult to recognize the sound of a decade.

I think that recognizing the sound of a decade is something that potentially died in the 90s. I don't know if it made it into the new millennium. I just think we're too close to it. I mean. What's the difference between the sound, what is the sound of the 2000s versus the sound of the 2010s? What's the difference? We've already had two decades

to figure it out. What's the difference between the last Justin Timberlake album, which maybe is a bad example, because I didn't listen to it, versus the last NSYNC album, a whole lot. You know, I think he was wearing like a flannel on the cover of that album. I was like, say something about the woods.

I mean, I didn't listen to that one, so I don't know. Well, you're right, time will tell. I'm just saying that my theory at this point is that there won't be a definitive. Like when you think 50s music, what do you think? You think like doo-wop, right? Not as good. You know, when you think 60s music,

you think, ah, like starting to get into some like, Okay. Weird hippie stuff. Late 60s, it gets real good. Yeah. That's when music started to get real good. But it wasn't before, I mean, in my opinion, it wasn't before then.

But then there's always something that's gonna grip you since then. But it's really splintered. And I think that, just to wrap it up, I think that most of what grabs me is the stuff that is calling back to the times where I thought that music was special. So there, for me, there's not a whole lot of music

that's being made that isn't really heavily influenced by something in the past that I'm really into. Like I'm not into any new genres. No, I think that, but the phrase influenced by the past, why do you have to say that? It's like that, of course. Well, no, no, what I'm saying is like. Everything's influenced by something.

All music is influenced by something, so I don't think you need to add that. Some things are more of a departure from the past than others. Some things call back more thoroughly. So in other words, like I'm not an EDM fan because it's very difficult for EDM to capture much of anything from the past

because it's a very futuristic, forward-looking genre, but I just don't, there's no soul in it to me. I don't connect with it. But that's your problem. Maybe something's wrong with me. Yeah, I mean, and I- But do you like EDM? I don't know enough, no. And I don't know enough about it, And I don't know enough about it.

But I'm not gonna say that it's not influenced by stuff because it absolutely has to be. Oh, it's clearly influenced by stuff, but it's a more bold departure than say Jason Isbell. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Like, I mean, I haven't listened to a lot of Kraftwerk either, but it's like, I mean.

What is that? Kraftwerk, I think, had to influence all electronic music from the 70s. What is Kraftwerk? Kraftwerk is... Kraftwerk with a K and then an E. Is it a band? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, a German band formed in 1970,

widely considered as innovators and pioneers of electronic music. They were among the first successful acts to popularize the genre. It's just you're not into electronic music. No. But I mean, you'll like the Daft Punk album, just like I will, but it's just not your thing.

But when it's not our thing. And why do I like the Daft Punk album? Because it is by definition a strong throwback to the 70s in disco. And it even has the story of the connection to the original pioneers of disco in the album, built into the album. They tell the story. So, and that connects back to a time

when I was actually alive. I was a little teeny baby. I don't think that's what the story is. I think it's the inventor of the synthesizer. I'm just saying it's a different thing. We don't know as much about it. But he talks about that beat, the click track and stuff. I'm just saying that it's literally a throwback,

and it's got a historical angle, and that's why we like it. But if things get too on the cutting edge of the future, we don't like it anymore. And unless you're really, really hip, and I don't wanna be that hip. I'm not that dad. I don't know, I think about- We could have easily made this into an episode, by the way,

and we just made it into one question. So maybe we'll have to come back to this subject. Well, you know, for the next listening party, Britton and I are working, we were like, we gotta do something, we gotta do some music that's now. So I think by the time this comes out, it would have come out, but we decided we were only gonna play music for each other

that is music that's moving us now, like brand new music like over the weeks or months old and i had to get excited about it in a different way because it was more difficult to get excited about but i but there's lots of music that's moving me so it can happen yeah i mean yeah, I agree. Let's move on to another question. This one's from Rafa Conrad. What is your perspective about fandoms? Okay, it's interesting because I've been thinking more about fandoms lately because, and I think this is true for you too

i'll just speak for myself i i wouldn't consider myself i've never experienced being a part of a fandom now i obviously i'm excluding the fact that you that we, there's a fandom around what we do. There's a mythical fandom. I'm very grateful for that. And I'm very reverent towards how people have created it as a fandom, but it's, I observe it from the, I don't want to say from the top down or from the outside in, but like, I mean, a fandom formed around the stuff that we create, but I don't,

even though I'm very passionate about a lot of things, I don't think that I could say that I've ever actually been a part of a fandom. And I will tease that I gained some insight through some recent experiences, which I'll talk about in a second, but I just wanted to put that out there first. I gained some insight through some recent experiences, which I'll talk about in a second, but I just wanted to put that out there first.

Have either one of us ever been a part of a fandom? And how do we define fandom? Do we need to look that up like craft work? I mean, you can look it up, but I'll give you my layman's definition. You can see if Google agrees with me. Yeah. I think it's a group of people

who have connected with each other because they have connected with, all connected together around something else that they like. Yeah. Fans of a particular person, team, fictional series, et cetera, regarded collectively as a community or subculture? So yeah, community.

See, I would, I think that the, for me the community aspect is the thing. So I would consider, I'm probably, I'm, the most I'm a part of a fandom is a fan of NC State athletics. I mean, that's the easiest thing, right? So my college, Link's college. So it isn't like I have a group of people

that I get together with and watch games, but I have like, you know, a couple of our college buddies that I'll talk to about a big game or something like that. I mean, there's like a group of NC State people that get together at like a bar in Pasadena and watch games together. You ever thought about going?

And there was a time, I've thought about it, I don't think I'm gonna do it, but I have thought about it. Because you know, especially when, the thing about being a part of a fandom is that you relate in this way. And when you're an NC State sports fan, you relate in a way. And when you're an NC State sports fan, you relate in a very particular way of like having your hopes dashed

against the rocks of reality over and over again for decades and decades. And that makes you a certain type of fan, right? And so there's a connection there, just a like-mindedness that you don't even have to think about when you meet somebody. Oh, and if you see somebody with an NC, like the thing is is that like the block S from Stanford

is exactly the same as the block S from NC State except the NC State has NNC kind of small in there. And so when I first moved out here, I saw all these block S's and I was like, State, no, Stanford, no Stanford, no Stanford, you never see somebody wearing any things NC State. But it's happened maybe five times in 10 years. And I talk to these people.

Yeah, because there's so much suffering. I don't talk to anybody. It's basically like in medieval times, if you get thrown in a dungeon, you're like in the blocks and you're like, you're in the shackles, what are you gonna do? You're gonna start talking to the guy or the gal next to you.

You know, you're gonna, hey, you're gonna connect in the misery of being in that situation. That's what it's like to be a Wolfpack fan. And so if you're gonna endure the heart-wrenching loss. And you've opted out, by the way. I've opted out. You've opted out of that.

I've opted out. I mean, I love NC State, I love my experience, but I just cannot, when it comes to the sports experience, I cannot stand being trampled. And then getting my hopes up just enough to think that it's not gonna happen the time after or the time after that. Yeah, I get it.

But so yeah, you have this need for connection. I mean, my insight came when, and I was talking about how Lily and I started watching John Mayer's live Instagram show called Current Mood, which is roughly comes out every week. You know, we're both big fans of his music. Our families are big fans of his music. You know, we're middle aged white guys. What are we supposed to do?

Yeah, you got to like John Mayer. You lose your card if you don't like John Mayer. Lily's really into it. And lose your card if you don't like John Mayer. Lily's really into it and she got me into current mood. And I've, it was such a different experience because, well, it was live, so there was like more of a connect. We've done a lot of live stuff and we really built, we really started to build our community when we were doing that Rhett and Link test live.

There is something magical about knowing that this is happening now. And if I type something, he might read it. He might respond to it. There could be a little conversation, some acknowledgement. But even beyond that, when an episode was over and I was reflecting on it, I just started to appreciate specifics about it, like why I was really into it. You know, the fact that he has a certain sense of

humor, but he also talks about things that are serious and he processes things in an interesting way and he thinks in a similar way to me. I started to relate on that level and I started to become curious how many other people had that type of experience. And here I am in bed, I'm on Reddit anyway, I'm like, I bet you there's a John Mayer Reddit thread. I wonder if there's a current mood Reddit thread because I didn't wanna just talk about,

I didn't wanna be a fan of John Mayer, I wanted to talk about that show specifically and like the episode I just watched, I found myself wanting to discuss it with other people. And there wasn't one. There was a John Mayer Reddit thread and some people would talk about current mood. I was sure that you were gonna say that there was.

So I actually found that I was frustrated that there wasn't, and I ain't gonna start it. I ain't got time for that. But sometimes there's a current mood entry in the John Mayer thread. And I don't even know what John Mayer fans are called, if they have a name, like how they associate themselves in the fandom.

But again, I'm speaking of it as if I'm not involved in it, but I've gotten as close as I have to saying that I'm in a fandom because I found myself wanting to just talk to people about somebody else's work and connect over it. And I don't think, I mean, I really like connecting and talking to people about music, but music is not a fandom. You know, it's got to be a specific thing and it actually started hold on you mean when you put on your dating profile that you like music that doesn't

mean anything right right and for the record i do not have a dating profile so red i don't know what red's referring to but if you did you wouldn't say, I'm really into music. I would put, I like listening to music, that's a hobby of mine, but when I say that, I really mean it. Like I like to sit down and listen to music and I like to think about it and I like to talk about it. So I'm not some, I'm not just somebody who says,

yeah, I like music, yeah, I like music. Yeah, I like food. I like to eat food. Saying I like music is like, I like food. Right. I like sunshine. But I started to think, I gained insight into how the mythical beasts enjoy our content because when you really get something, and I feel like the you know, the Mythical Beasts

really get us. I think that's what, that's what it means to be a Mythical Beast, that you watch it and you understand why it's, they wanna connect to us. We, you know, we had a whole- They connect to what we create, they connect to who we are, and I started to,

I started to understand that for the first time. There was a whole chapter in the Book of Mythicality about this. Yeah, if somebody likes what you like, then you like them. Yeah. Because we talked about Merle Haggard and I think that the thing that we didn't do, me and you connected with each other

over our love for Merle. But we didn't connect with the greater fandom because when we went to the concerts, it was a bunch of 65 year old people. It was like, and I'm not Britain, you know what I'm saying? Like your cousin, Britain will go to a horror convention and come back best friends with a 94 year old woman. It's like, you know, and that's awesome.

And I wish I was more open to personal connection than that, but I just, I'm not. So it was like, oh, my friend likes this. This is something we connect. But the greater community of people who would call themselves mayor heads or whatever, mayors, maybe they just call themselves mayors. They're all mayors of mayor town.

John Mayer fans. I don't know. To some extent it feels like a commitment. It's the same reason I don't go, I consider myself an NC State sports fan, but I don't go to that bar to watch NC State lose in sports with other people. Because you gotta commit. You gotta commit not just to the thing that you like,

you have to commit to the other people who like it. Yeah, there's a lot more time involved. And I think I found myself, if there was a John Mayer, if there was a current mood discussion, if there was a current mood discussion, like that was reliable every week, like in this environment right now, being home so much, like I can see myself starting to make friends

in that environment and start, you know, it's, you know, Mike, our friend Science Mike, he's big into Dungeons and Dragons. He talks to us about it, but he talks about how he'll play and he has a group of friends that he plays with that some of them were members of his community who also like Dungeons and Dragons

and were part of that community. So then they would form their own little group. But I mean, you got the whole Trekkie thing that was the quintessential beginning of fandoms in my mind, when you go to a convention and then you would make friends with those people. And that was, but I think in this environment- And by the way, by con, I did not mean the wrath of con.

I just meant conventions. Yes, you did. But there is a double meaning and you have to specify when you're talking about Star Trek or Star Trek, as I said, until I was like 13. But I don't know. Maybe I need to go full in on a fandom in order to then be a better,

What are we? Figureheads of the Mythical fandom? Figurehead is someone who really doesn't do anything, but it kind of- There's a, there's a, and careful with that, there's a very specific opportunity, given the fact that there's two of us, because you could become part of my fandom

and I could become part of your fandom and that's how we fully participate in the Mythical fandom. It's just like, hey, I'm a big fan of the Mythical stuff but really it's Link. You're gonna start tweeting about all, you know when Link said so and so, so and so, like wasn't that cool? I'm gonna start like a,

I'm gonna start a Twitter account that's like Link's ocean blue eyes or something like that. And tweet about you constantly. That's what I'm gonna do. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do about me? I'm already really close to being a mayor head. I think that's where I'm gonna go. Well, I'm not committing to you if you don't commit to me.

We have enough commitments to each other. We don't need to be each other's biggest fan. Okay, let's do one more question. All right. This one's from Michelle. Very practical. Thoughts about using a blanket on the couch. Does it need to be folded or put away after each use,

even if you know you're going to just pull it out next time? My husband says yes, but I say no. I literally use a blanket on the couch year round. We use a blanket on the couch year round. We use a blanket on the couch year round. I mean, there's certain blankets that our entire family has, they consider the best blanket. And so then we bought a weighted blanket and for a little bit, the weighted blanket

became the coveted blanket everyone fought over. You had to get on there, you had to get underneath it first, as like calling a shotgun. But then, turns out the weighted blanket was too heavy. Too weighted. So now, the second most popular blanket has now become the most popular blanket again. Too heavy for who?

For most people, it gets too warm, and you could injure yourself moving it. I don't like the weighted blanket because I could hurt my shoulders trying to pick that thing up and move it. I don't like the weighted blanket because I could hurt my shoulders trying to pick that thing up and move it. I gotta preserve that for surfing. How did you hurt yourself? Well, I tried to move a weighted blanket.

So our second most popular blanket became the coveted blanket and again, I'm looking at it over there and it's gone. Somebody's got it. And we just bought a second one. We should've bought five of them. So I will say there's always blankets laying around. When you watch a movie together,

everyone has a blanket, all five? Yeah, pretty, yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because when we watch a movie together, they all have blankets and I just don't quite get it. I'm kind of like- Are you warm natured? You're a little warm natured. No, I'm actually, I get cold.

Most of the time when you say that you're cold, I'm like, when I think about it, I'm like, yeah, it is a little cold. I just honestly- You should get a blanket. I don't think about it as much and I like a blanket. I think it's just, I just assume that it's not going to be big enough. I just assumed that all blankets won't fit me.

And so I just, it's like, it's the reason I don't try things on at stores. I'm like, it's not gonna fit me. Our favorite blanket is big enough for you, man. It's such a big blanket. You can, I take that blanket and I can hold it. It's about, it's like a six by eight blanket. You can, I take that blanket and I can, I can hold it. It's about, it's like a six by eight blanket. That would fit me. Now, but we do, so we have a lot of blankets, you know, on the couch. Well, there's at least two. For some reason, there's usually two. And since three of them

want blankets, they get in fights. And I don't know why we haven't done the math on this but my wife is cleaning up constantly um and the rest of us are my kids significantly worse than me creating mess yeah right uh and it's interesting now given quarantine because we don't have anybody over, right? So Jesse likes to get the house real nice for people who don't live in it. Yeah. You know, and, but we've been keeping it pretty clean,

but I gotta say that the blankets have just been nonchalantly thrown over the couch and sort of left in place for, I'd say weeks now. With no, like there's no folding and putting away. Now if she gets into a cleaning mindset, they will be folded and put away, only to be taken out again.

Even in this environment, I think that creates a lot of problems. I mean, you can anticipate my position on this. I think that blankets should be folded and not put away. Why is that? They should be folded and put. What problems? When you walk up to a couch and there's a blanket that someone's been in on it,

and it's just like a clump of blanket. But folding doesn't make it cleaner. It is not inviting because it says someone else has been in this. Someone else's body smells and skin cells and stuff is all in it. Now, if you fold it up, that statement's still true, but it doesn't make you think about it.

It doesn't make you think. Someone else has been in this blanket. But the other parts of the person that came off of them and got on the blanket are now folded up and they're multiplying when it's folded. No, they're not. At least when it's out in the open, they're dying. It's not laid out.

The pieces of the person are dying. It's in a clump, it's like a brain. It's smushed together and there's even more crevices. There's even more crevices. You think the viruses that are on the people are being crushed by the blanket being folded? Not true. I don't want to talk about viruses at all.

I just think that it's not inviting to go into, like if a shirt's hanging on a rack, you're like, I could try that on. If the shirt's laying in the bottom of a, you know, the stall, I don't want to try that on, even though someone else has already tried on both of those shirts to use your...

Okay, let me ask you a different question that's related to this. When your wife goes out of town and you're at home alone, do you make the bed and why? I like to make the bed and why? I like to make the bed because then if I take a nap, I like to take a nap on top of the bed because if I get under the covers, then that's not a nap.

That's sleeping. Well, I was trying to trap you because your logic of other people's parts doesn't apply when it's just you sleeping in a bed, right? It's just your parts. I just think it's just more exciting. When you walk in a room and there's like, there's a blanket here and it's folded

and there's a blanket draped over here strategically, it's like, oh, and then it also, when something's in clumps, it sends a signal to the other people in the house, the kids, that you know what, oh, I can leave my chip bag here. I can leave my half-drunk can of LaCroix here. I can leave my fully-drunk can of LaCroix. You think a clean house starts with a clean bed.

Now listen. Sets a tone. I don't agree. And as you might guess, I do not make the bed when I'm sleeping alone in it. And my wife makes the bed literally, she like, she can't start her life if the bed isn't made. I don't do that. And every single time.

I don't make the bed every morning, but I do like a made bed. But every single time, I'm't make the bed every morning, but I do like a maid bed. But every single time, I'm participating in the making of the bed because if I happen to get caught in the room at the time when she's doing it, I got long arms, I look like a maid to make beds. Yeah.

I have to help, I get recruited. And every single time I'm doing it, I have a number of thoughts. I'm flooded with thoughts. One of them is there's got to be a better system. Like there's got to be something that is closer to a sleeping bag. You know what I'm saying? Like I just, the multiple sheets and the way things have to fold down and, and don't get me started on a freaking down comforter. I'm sure your wife has the same thing.

Our wives get similar things, but it's this down comforter that has a duvet cover. And then you have to pull it in and then fold it backwards and like tie it in a certain, when we start doing that, I start going ballistic every single time. I'm just like, I don't understand why is this the system? This has been around for who knows how many hundreds of years and this is the way we're still doing it? I would gladly make the bet if it was like Jetson's time and we figured out a way to just do it efficiently and cleanly, but I get mad at the antiquated nature of it

and it just makes me think, I'm above this. I'll just come back to this tonight and I'll work my way into it and it'll be fine. We're talking about blankets though. So I think the same thing applies, of course, I think the same thing applies to blankets. If you're not gonna have guests, because I do agree that if you go to somebody's house

and you're like, oh, there's a bundled up blanket on their couch, that means somebody drooled there or worse. But if it's just me and my family, I know who was on the couch last night. I was there, we were watching a movie together after we argued about which one it would be. I don't make my kids fold blankets.

I don't need a new blanket. I don't make them do that, but I do it because I like it, but I recognize it as a matter of taste. So it makes me happy, but I don't enforce that on the kids because I don't think that would be fair. So I think that's the compromise. I admit that it's a matter of taste. Well, so is Michelle right or is her husband right?

Because that's really what this comes down to. You're saying that her husband is right. I'm saying that. You know, I don't think it's, I think it's a matter of taste. It's not a matter, you have to live together and you know, you gotta meet the middle. Yeah, but I think the situation here,

I think that the situation is easy. If her husband believes that the blankets need to be folded and put away, well, he can do it. That's what I'm saying. Don't drag Michelle into it. Yeah, yeah, I do agree with that. And I'll give a little wreck here. We saw some problems today.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Thanks for giving us these questions, these topics of conversation. I learned lots of stuff. Sounds like I might get to go surfing again soon. A little wreck for you guys. I mean, I could just wreck that documentary because, yeah,

if you're our age and you were into basketball and want to relive the Jordan glory days, that's great. I think if you care about sports at all, it's incredible. I'll make that the wreck, the last dance. I've got at least one more episode. I'll make that the wreck, the last dance. I've got at least one more episode. And like Phil Jackson is an interesting person.

Like we haven't talked about this, but I'm like, man, what a, someone who doesn't fit the mold for his particular job, such an interesting guy. I wish they would have talked more about him. I want to see a Phil Jackson documentary. Well, you know the guy who directed The Last Dance also did a documentary on Andre the Giant. I've seen that one then. Yeah.

That was good too. But he's also done like two or three other ones. He just, oh, he's, cause he's, I think he did one on the Pistons maybe. He did one on another team. I think that I could, I don't think it has to be the Chicago Bulls. I think I'm really opening myself up

to sports documentaries in general. 30 for 30s. All right, Last Dance, that's our recommendation. Hashtag Ear Biscuits, let us know what you think about these topics, if that's blankets or reliving a point in your life or all the stuff we said about music. Let us have it.

We'll speak at you next week.