Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 253: Do We Have A Voice Inside Of Our Heads? | Ear Biscuits Ep.253

Episode Date: August 31, 2020

And if we do, do we hear it in our own voice or in someone else's? R&L dive into a wide array of topics ranging from the witching hour to teleportation to vocal thoughts and more on this episode of Ea...r Biscuits! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is mythical. Shop Best Buy's ultimate smartphone sale today. Get a Best Buy gift card of up to $200 on select phone activations with major carriers. Visit your nearest Best Buy store today. Terms and conditions apply. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Link. And I'm Rhett. This week at the round table of adequate lighting,
Starting point is 00:00:35 we're gonna be talking about a number of things, including the witching hour. Can we also talk about teleportation? We're gonna be talking about teleportation. Okay. We're gonna be talking about the difference between being murdered and assassinated. We got lots of good questions from y'all.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Why are you using that voice though? That's my new thing, I'm trying it out. I've been thinking about it. I gotta keep listening. Yeah, it's easier to do than the monster truck announcer voice. It's easier to do than this at the Dorton Arena. Okay, okay. It's easier to do than that.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Yeah, you wouldn't think you could get monster trucks in the Dorton Arena having played there, which if you don't know is the old venue in the middle of the state fairgrounds in North Carolina that we would always, there'd be concerts during the fair. And then we were one of the concerts and it seems small. How could you have, I've never been to a monster truck rally. That voice makes me not wanna go, but-
Starting point is 00:01:39 Really, that voice makes me wanna go. Everything else makes me wanna go. I think you want to be in a place that feels too small for monster trucks if you're gonna go watch monster trucks. Because you wanna feel the impending doom. If Bigfoot loses control, we could all die. Like that's the fun in it.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Dig your own grave by going and seeing Grave Digger. Have you watched? Not in a long time. Okay, you have no idea. Go on YouTube and just type in monster trunk. Monster trunk. I wanna see some big trunks. It's a totally new thing.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Could be an elephant, could be a chest. Caprice Classic. I don't care. Monster trunk. No, type in monster truck highlights. What they're doing in the world of monster trucks is so much crazier than what they were doing the last time you checked in. When you checked in last time, it was like,
Starting point is 00:02:29 Bigfoot was like, yeah, I could crush some cars. Now Bigfoot, and I don't even know if Bigfoot's still around, can like balance on the back wheels, do a full flip. What? Link, it's basically like watching an Olympic gymnast. It's like Simone Biles. But she's driving a truck. But she's in a truck.
Starting point is 00:02:51 She is the truck. Oh, that's cool. You have no idea what they're doing in the world of monster trucks. Have they developed? And I wanna go. As soon as crowds happen again, I'm going. I just, I think that statement just applies across the board.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I want to go. I want to do, I want to see. You have no idea. Monster trucks sound like the most amazing thing ever because you've got quarantine goggles. I can't believe you don't know this. Quarantine goggles. I can't believe you don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I do remember, I think Jenna went to a monster truck rally. Jenna, didn't you go to a monster truck rally? I've been to a couple. She's been to a couple. Hey, and tell him. She's on the video chat. Am I not right about what they're doing is amazing? She's watching us do this because,
Starting point is 00:03:30 I mean, what else does she have to do? Hold on, she's talking. They're amazing, right? Balancing on just the back wheels, balancing on the front wheels. Yeah, balancing on the back wheels, just the front wheels. Bunch of trickery.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Have they developed the technology? There was a- Parachutes? There was a type of monster truck toy, a remote controlled monster truck as a kid. I like the way you said remote with an L, remote. Did I? Yeah. Remote. Well, you can, at least I can say- I say a lot of things wrong, man, I know, but-
Starting point is 00:04:00 I say wolves. But you point it out every single time I say it. I say wolves with an L too, because it's in there. You don't. Wolves, man. Have they developed the toy that I remember as a child that was a monster truck that whenever it would get stuck on something, claws would come out,
Starting point is 00:04:20 like animal claws would come out of the wheels, of the tires, of the tires. And then it would start- What was that? Climbing over boulders and stuff. What was the name of that thing? I had that. You had it? Oh yeah, I had it.
Starting point is 00:04:33 In California or something or when I was your friend? When I was a kid, I had the monster truck that had the, they were like orange claws that came out, hands that came out and gripped things. I bet it was called the claw. I don't know, I'm into it though. Do they do that? I'm sure they're doing something.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Jenna, you seen that? No, I haven't seen the claws. He hasn't seen the claws coming out of the tires. He hasn't seen claws. That's advanced technology. Well, when that happens, I'm definitely going. Okay. I think it's like a fun loving girl venue.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I mean, Jenna's a fun loving girl venue. I mean, Jenna's a fun loving girl. Mamrie, I know that Mamrie would go, Mamrie Hart would go to Monster Truck. Mamrie goes to wrestling matches. And put it on her Instagram. And Monster Truck, yeah, she's living it up. She's totally living it up. If I really wanted to have fun,
Starting point is 00:05:21 I'd really be friends with her, like active friends. We're passive, digital friends, like if we see each other. But I guess that's one of the appeals. She's fun-loving. Yeah, well. I don't know what she's doing lately. That's the thing, when you live a life as exciting as Mamrie, then when COVID happens, I mean, we should check in on her.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Because she's not going to see in wrestling, she's not going to see a monster truck. And I'm sure it's not the same when you just watch it on television. I mean, have you watched wrestling? I watched some of the highlights from that WrestleMania. And there's no crowd, of course. I mean, sports without crowds, already crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Already sort of weird. Wrestling without crowds? I mean, it's almost embarrassing. Yeah. Like when the guy lands on the mat and you can really hear it and nothing else. So they're not adding crowd noise. NBA games.
Starting point is 00:06:25 They have a crowd, a digital crowd. They have a digital crowd, but they add crowd noise at certain parts. Yeah, they do. And it's fine. The NBA games are still fun to watch. I don't think they add crowd noise the whole time. They add crowd noise at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:06:39 It's like transitional noise. It's like transitional moments or whatever. But then you get into the game and it's, I don't think there's crowd noise, but you see the people on the screens. Are they live? Like, are they video conferencing in or are they just sending in footage of themselves
Starting point is 00:06:53 as being looped? Oh, it's live. So you can be, how do you get to be one of those people? I don't know, me and Locke have had this discussion. I was like, Locke, figure out how you become one of those people who's watching. And I- You gave him an assignment. He didn't do it, but I did find out, I heard somebody talking on Twitter about,
Starting point is 00:07:11 because I was wondering like, you know, people on video chats, their decorum is a lot different than somebody in the real world, right? The chances of you like literally like whipping it out on a video chat as a joke are way higher than in real life. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you're talking about the twig and berries. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And you just know that somebody's like, I'm gonna get on there and whip it out. Yeah, because what are they gonna do? Come to your house and- I don't know what they're gonna do, but I do know- Batter down your door? There's two things that happen. The first thing that happens is,
Starting point is 00:07:47 if somebody whips it out or makes an obscene gesture, I think we could expand what the difference. Well, no, you immediately kick them off the stream and ban them, right? But then the second thing is there is a slight delay because one of the things you'll notice if you watch the NBA games right now is there are these very long,
Starting point is 00:08:06 sometimes like seven to nine seconds long, where you don't hear anything except the announcers because they're bleeping out the profanity of the players that you typically do not hear because of the crowd. Oh. And these dudes are constantly cursing, you know? They're cursing a whole lot less because they know they're being listened to. But just watch one of the NBA games and they will just, oh, somebody's cursing, somebody's cursing a whole lot less because they know they're being listened to.
Starting point is 00:08:25 But just watch one of the NBA games and they will just, oh, somebody's cursing, somebody's cursing back. It's dropped, all the audio drops out of the court. There's a delay, I don't know what the delay is, seven seconds or whatever, just in time for somebody to be like, oh, they cursed, I'm gonna. So if you show a twig and berries in the feed,
Starting point is 00:08:41 they can probably automatically not show it. There's some technology, you know? So does that, have you just talked yourself out of pursuing being in the virtual stands? The way that I know that it's live is because, again, I watched a lot of NBA, and what's happening now is like when people, like I saw the other day,
Starting point is 00:09:02 like Paul Pierce was watching a Celtics game and he was in the crowd watching a Celtics game. And like they were showing his reactions to things that were happening. He was like, and they'll show people like, somebody misses a free throw and you'll watch all the people behind the goal light go. And also when people are shooting free throws,
Starting point is 00:09:21 they put the opposing team's feed, or maybe it just happened to be that, and everybody's on their screens trying to get the guy to miss. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, so you're saying they have a separate feed than like the average viewer, than the broadcast viewer, because theirs is actually live.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Well, but you, oh. And then the thing that's broadcast to you is on a delay. Yeah, because the seven seconds wouldn't work for us. Well, it wouldn't work for them. You would look like everybody was just very slow and reacting to everything. Wow, so yeah, they probably do have a real feed
Starting point is 00:09:50 of the game that is no delay. For these special people. And how do you get to be one of those people? I don't know, you probably go to NBA.com. Is this turning into an ad? Yeah. It's probably pretty easy. Go to NBA.com slash ear,
Starting point is 00:10:01 and it will redirect you to a site that actually exists. Now, I was watching a WNBA game the other day. They do not do the crowd. They have no video crowd. And I was like, why don't they get a video crowd? They don't get a video crowd? What's up with that? Give the women a video crowd.
Starting point is 00:10:18 It's the same court, right? It's not the same court. It's a court that looks the same. The setup is similar. It's a lot of screens. It's double the screens. What are you trying to say? That's probably their justification.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I'm not saying I agree with it. Well, I know that there's a lot less money in the WNBA than in the NBA, and maybe they just don't have money for screens. But it immediately hit me that like, y'all need to do the screens for the women as well, because it's like, it's this really obvious difference. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:47 You know? I mean, how would you rate yourself? I mean, we're talking quarantine. A 10. Quarantine, okay, on a scale of one to 10. Just in general? You know, like your- Oh, you mean just how I feel right now?
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah, I mean, let's just have a quick quarantine update. Just on a scale of one to 10. Okay, I had a, coming back from vacation, I had some low points. Oh yeah? Yeah, just, I don't know, I just, you know, something I told you about the disappointing thing that happened on vacation would hurt myself or whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:23 But I actually, I had a moment of, like a very specific moment during meditation last week where it was like, things sort of shifted for me. Oh, ego death. It wasn't anything that substantial, but it was just one of those things that was like- Shifted, huh? Well, no, it was just sort of a realignment
Starting point is 00:11:49 of my expectations, you know, I- So a lowering of expectations. Well, that would be a negative way to put it. But I do think that there is a, you know, we were talking about this this morning as a family, we were talking about this. But like, I think one of the things that happens when you are stuck and you're not able to travel
Starting point is 00:12:09 and you're not able to experience life in the way that you used to, if you're being a responsible person, that is, I mean, if you're not being a responsible person, you're just going on about your business, then A, screw you, and B, you won't be able to relate to what I'm about to say. But if you're being a responsible citizen
Starting point is 00:12:27 in the midst of this pandemic, and so you're limiting yourself from the things that you would typically experience, you can, and depending on your personality, if you can have a tendency to begin to, you know, it's just depressing, right? It's depressing. Oh yeah. It's the same thing over and over again.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And I was thinking about traveling and I was thinking about all the things that I want to experience. And I was listening to a guided meditation and the woman doing the guided meditation. Monster truck guided meditation. There's an idea. Write that down.
Starting point is 00:13:02 But no, her voice was very, very peaceful, very peaceful and very soothing. And she was basically talking about your inner landscape as opposed to the world's landscape, right? And just this realization that sort of the work that you do on yourself by being introspective, figuring yourself out and sort of getting lost in your own inner landscape.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And I don't mean that in like a super self-absorbed way. I mean that in like becoming who you are becoming, the process of becoming who you're becoming is something that if you are truly engaged in it, it stands to be substantially more fulfilling than the idea of just exploring the external world, right? Because we tend to, we were programmed in a way to think that the external is where happiness is.
Starting point is 00:13:51 It's something outside of you. It's a new house, it's a new car, it's a new job, it's a new relationship. And everyone falls for this lie, right? That if you get the circumstances, the external circumstances in your life right, you will be happy. But every single person who has ever gotten
Starting point is 00:14:10 the external circumstances completely right, says, this ain't it y'all, this ain't it, right? Perfect example of that from, if you relate to our background, King Solomon, right? Yep. And an example of that from, if you relate to our background, King Solomon, right? Yep. The whole- Ecclesiastes.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Ecclesiastes, the whole book is about how I had everything, anything that I wanted, any pleasure that I wanted, and it's all vanity, right? It's all, there's nothing new under the sun. And so for me, and I have to come to this multiple times, it's like I was thinking about my vacation and how it didn't go how I wanted it to. Another thing, again, these are super first world problems,
Starting point is 00:14:54 very privileged problems. I get back from a vacation and my fricking pool area is still not done, right? Like they still got multiple things to do. The pool has no water in it, et cetera. These things that most people don't have period in the world or even in the United States. And I'm complaining because mine's not done yet.
Starting point is 00:15:15 But then I was like, but why am I placing so much expectation and why am I relating my happiness to the impending completion of this project? Because I already know what's gonna happen. The project's gonna get done. I'm gonna have a pool and a hot tub that are exactly the way me and my wife want.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I'm gonna get in there. I'm gonna listen to the music from the speakers that we've installed. And I'm gonna be happy about that for about four hours. Four hours, okay. No, we're gonna enjoy it as a family. I'm gonna try not to take it for granted, but everyone adjusts your barometer,
Starting point is 00:15:52 your thermostat changes, it adjusts to whatever you're in. And so there was just this moment where I was like, what about right now? What about the moment right now? What about what's happening right now? Find the joy in what's happening right now. Find the joy in figuring out who you are and dealing with your own bullshit.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Did that happen? Yeah, it did. And I feel like I've been able to tap into that for about a week. So I feel good right now. I'm sure it'll wear off. And then I'll have to go to a monster truck rally. I was just asking for a number.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Nine. Wow, okay. That's a powerful nine coming from everything you've been thinking about. What about you? Yeah, I think I'm, I mean, the vacation was really helpful. I mean, if you're, you know, I don't like giving advice,
Starting point is 00:16:42 but I know everyone can't go on a vacation or, you know, I don't like giving advice, but I know everyone can't go on a vacation or, you know, but there's, you know, just finding something to look forward to, even if it's something small. I got a wreck at the end. I know. That it's just a little- Will it make people happy? I don't know, make some people happy. Made my family happy.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah, I think I'm, you know, I think I'm at a, I'm thinking I'm at a good solid eight right now. That's a B plus in my book. Oh yeah, that's, I mean, because vacation was a good experience. I think I'm still, I was rejuvenated by that and I'm, you know, and it's, I've given myself a little more leeway to not put so much pressure on myself
Starting point is 00:17:28 and beat myself up for what we're not able to do or what I'm not able to accomplish or whatever. And that, but it fluctuates. Yeah. Very drastically. Yeah. And, so it's a couple of days at a time and then you move to, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:45 it's like you might move to a more depressive zone. It just, it happens. And if, but there's- Ebbs and flows. Finding something to do to get out of it. Like Christy's got, you know, not that we need more plants, but like- Oh, you always need more plants.
Starting point is 00:18:00 You know, she's like, I'm getting more plants. I'm, you know, I'm getting my hands dirty. It's like these types of things help her. She's getting her hands dirty? Like she digging into the dirt? Yeah. Wow, like a farmer. She is a farmer.
Starting point is 00:18:12 She is a farmer. She's a plant farmer. Does she have fruits? We have lemons. That's a fruit. It is a fruit. We have pomegranates. You have limes?
Starting point is 00:18:23 No, we have- you should have guac. You should have limes because I was making guacamole the other night and- You have avocados, you have avocado tree? I have a grocery store. Okay, yeah. But what we didn't have, and this is every, okay, what is the key ingredient besides avocados?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Now I probably have already given it away. Onions. So I mean a classic guacamole is avocado, onions, salt and lime, right? Now you can put some peppers in there if you want. Some people put tomatoes, I know you don't like to do that. I don't even put tomatoes in my guacamole because it makes it a little watery.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Makes it too runny, unless it's a really good tomato. But if you use the lime juice that's in the plastic lime and that sucker is older than a week or so, the tang is gone. And we had so many avocados because Jesse does something where there's like some local farm who brings produce or whatever, you know? And we had like 12 avocados because we had a batch
Starting point is 00:19:29 that came in and we didn't touch them. And then we had a new batch come in. I was like, baby, we gotta have guacamole. A vat of guacamole. We gotta have guacamole multiple nights in a row. And so I was like, I'm going for a four avocado bowl right now, which is a lot of guacamole. You got the chips to support that?
Starting point is 00:19:48 Not really, man. I was really loading up the chips because I didn't have the ratio right for that either. There's some toast too, there's some. I was also putting it on a quesadilla. Oh, that's good. I'm using that guy Fieri, Guy Fieri, Guy Fieri is what I say now,
Starting point is 00:20:05 salsa that we had on the show. And boy, that salsa's good, man. You like it? Yeah, that's seven pepper. Smoky. But anyway. What are we talking about? The tang of the guacamole is the key
Starting point is 00:20:18 and I didn't have the tang and I just felt like a fool with this really dull lime juice. It's like, no matter how much I put in there from that dull, dead lime juice, plastic, green lime thing. So in other words, you should have a lime tree. I'll come get some when I'm making guacamole. Lando and I are gonna remove the rocks from the rock tumbler.
Starting point is 00:20:38 They have reached their- That's exciting. That's happening tonight. How many, how long has that been going? Since before vacation. Constantly moving? Yeah, we went really overboard on the polish stage. There's three different phases. You put different grits?
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah, but we did an experiment where we left the polish stage on there for like a week longer than we should. But what can hurt? What can hurt? I mean, you gonna break the rocks? So now we're excited. We're gonna open that thing up tonight.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Send me some pictures. That's what I'm looking forward to. Oh, I've taken, I take pictures. Okay. I take progress photos of the rocks after before and after every stage. Well, why don't you put this on your Instagram? This is exciting content.
Starting point is 00:21:21 You get a lot of followers doing that. Yeah, it is. I could just be only a rock tumbler site. All right, let's get into some questions. So we're doing good. Let's ride that wave. Yeah, yeah. Join us. You know, if you're a four, if you're a three,
Starting point is 00:21:35 if you're a one right now, it's okay. I'll be there next week again probably. You know, it's, and you just, you know, just make up your mind to tumble some rocks. I like that. Figuratively. And just let the process work. Wherever you're going, you better believe American Express
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Starting point is 00:22:41 Do you say, what are you doing up so late? Or what are you doing up so early? Or what are you doing up so early? Hashtag Ear Biscuits. 3 a.m., and I'm not even gonna go into any sort of, I'm not gonna ask myself why I think this, but just 3 a.m., middle of the night, late night. That's, the middle of the night is not, I mean, technically midnight.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I mean, we all know that. Let's just set the baseline. At 12, it's a.m. The middle of the night is the first of the next day. Can we agree on that? Yeah, that's not the question at hand, but yes. I don't consider that to be the middle of the night, but 3 a.m. is kinda late, like the middle of the night.
Starting point is 00:23:29 No, that's not the question. Do you consider it the middle of the night? We're not finding the middle of the night. You just said you considered 3 a.m. the middle of the night. Right, but what I meant was. That's a little late. It's 3 a.m., okay, forget middle of the night. It's the night.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Like if you're up at 3 a.m., you're up late. For me, if you're up at 3 a.m., you're up late. For me, if you're up at 4 a.m., you're up early. That's the cutoff. That's how, in my brain, without thinking about it, if I wake up at 4.30, I think to myself, dang, why do I wake up so early? If I wake up at 3.30, I think, why am I waking up in the middle of the night?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Now that's a good test because his example is not helpful because I think if you haven't gone to sleep, then it's still the night. You can't have a morning until you go to sleep unless the sun comes up. So as long as the sun's not up and you haven't gone to sleep, it is still night. I don't disagree with you, but that is,
Starting point is 00:24:27 I do not believe that is Taven's question. The implication. He said if you go downstairs, now, because he. The implication is that you've gone to sleep. If Taven has gone to sleep and he wakes up, but if I go downstairs at 2 a.m., the kids might still be awake. I've never done three.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Sometimes I've stayed up till two, but if I've woken up. I understand. But they haven't gone to sleep, I would not ask them, why are you up so early? Because they haven't gotten up. Oh, but also it's 2 a.m. Forget the kid.
Starting point is 00:24:57 No. You. I'm saying his example doesn't work for me either way. Okay, what about this example? You wake up at night. you look at the clock, it says 3.30, do you think, damn, what am I waking up in the middle of the night for? And I'm using, I understand. I think it, to me, I think it's later.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I think it's, I would say. What if you wake up at 4.30? You wake up at five o'clock. Well, 5.30. Five, okay, so for somebody who wakes up at 4.30. You wake up at five o'clock. Well, 5.30. Okay, so for somebody who wakes up at 5.30, and I used to, pre-COVID, I woke up at 5.50, now I wake up at 6.30. So I think to me it would be
Starting point is 00:25:40 4.30. So 4.20 is, 4.20. Is still night. Is, really? That's night. That's morning for me. Because I can think of many different times when they were like, I gotta go on a trip. We're going to the airport.
Starting point is 00:25:56 We gotta get up at four o'clock. And when I think that, I'm like, dang, that's gonna be an early morning. But if I have to get up at three o'clock, I'm like, I'm not going to sleep. Yeah, for me, it's the four to five. Okay, well, where I was trying to get up at three o'clock, I'm like, I'm not going to sleep. Yeah, for me, it's that the four to five. Okay, well, where I was trying to get to this, I was hoping that you would agree with a three to four,
Starting point is 00:26:10 because I think that there is a subconscious connection to what is known as the witching hour, which is traditionally understood to be 3am to 3.59am. I did not know that. So that's what the witching hour is. Now people kind of disagree. And first of all, is the witching hour even a thing? But most people agree that that is the hour
Starting point is 00:26:30 that has the highest supernatural activity, right? Okay. People who believe in supernatural or paranormal things tend to think that's what they call the witching hour, three o'clock to 3.59. I didn't do any much reading about this other than to establish that. I didn't like find out like, well, what's that about?
Starting point is 00:26:47 But I just found it interesting that that hour is where there's the most extreme activity. And for me, that in my mind is the hour in which the transition between night and day is actually happening, which is weird. Based on what? Just your gut? Just based on my gut, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Like I said, if it's four o'clock, I feel like, why am I up early? If it's 3.30, I'm like, why am I up late? That's, again, I'm not analyzing it. I'm just saying from the gut, that's what it feels like. But, again, I like to entertain the possibility of sort of believing weird things.
Starting point is 00:27:30 It has been proven in my life to be fun to believe weird things. And I think it's been proven throughout history that it's fun and attractive to believe weird things. It's fun to believe conspiracy theories. It's fun to believe in supernatural things. It makes life more interesting, whether it's true or not. So.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I think it's fun to read about it and other people who believe it, but I don't know if I'll go so far as to say it's fun to actually believe it. Might be sad. Well, it depends on what the effect on your personal life is, I guess. But what I'm saying, and maybe it's scary.
Starting point is 00:28:05 But that time of night, that's an interesting, that is an interesting moment. I mean, there's, you can, it's a sneaky time, you know? Most, it's the least active time. You can get away with the most, but there's the least amount to do, unless you're gonna, I guess, what, witch? Well, I think, here's think, here's the scientific,
Starting point is 00:28:27 and again, when I say scientific, it's in quotes and has an asterisk next to it because it's coming from me. And so it's not qualified. But it could sound qualified to maybe a person who's not that smart. I'm not that smart. Oop. I think that while, again, it's fun to believe that there's actual paranormal things happening.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I tend to, if I'm putting on my rational hat, I think, nah, it doesn't really happen. It's perception and it's based on people's patterns and what state your brain and the world is at that time. And I just happen to believe that, and again, I have no science to back this up, there's something about your susceptibility to seeing things and misinterpreting things at that hour
Starting point is 00:29:21 based on just our circadian rhythms, right? Because you've been asleep. I was just gonna say just based on just our circadian rhythms, right? Cause you've been asleep. I was just gonna say just based on darkness and tiredness. Well, darkness is a huge part of it. And yeah, I mean, that's another way of saying the same thing. If you get up, if you've gone to sleep, right? If you stay up to the witching hour,
Starting point is 00:29:40 I don't know if they're gonna have the same effect. I mean, you'll be getting sleepy and maybe your perception will be hampered. I think it might be worse. You're prone to hallucinations perhaps. But hold on, but you're a person who, you've never had the opportunity to see this, but Link is a very deep sleeper and he is a very like, he will be very disoriented upon waking, right?
Starting point is 00:30:04 I'm a light sleeper and if you wake me up, I might as well be ready to take the SAT. Like I am full, I go straight to 100, I'm fully aware, I'm not groggy, I'm talking normal. I'm not happy about it, I wish I slept deeper and it would be probably more enjoyable. But Link, like there is a, at least two to three minute stupor
Starting point is 00:30:29 that you have to kind of get past before you're fully there, right? Well, especially if it's that, at that time of night. Yeah, and I'm saying that for me at that time of night, it might as well be the morning. I might be like, why am I awake? But I'm also like, give me a cognitive test right now. You know, that's an elephant.
Starting point is 00:30:47 But the, I think that most people are in like a hindered state of awareness. You're also like coming out of a dream, your mind's in a weird place. You're gonna see and hear and experience things. And like you said, it's dark. And so your mind is gonna play tricks on you. You're gonna see and hear and experience things. And like you said, it's dark. And so your mind is gonna play tricks on you. You're gonna see things in the dark.
Starting point is 00:31:08 No one else is there to confirm or deny the things that you see. Of course you're gonna have a bunch of weird stories from that hour. And then over the years, it's gonna develop, well, that's the witching hour. That's where the paranormal activity is the highest. That's my theory.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So, but back to the question, I mean, we've already answered the question. We're only off by an hour, by the way. Yeah, but I think it's a pretty significant hour. And I was- I'm missing the witching hour. And I would think, the interesting thing is, you go to bed so early that it's, and you get up so early. It's weird to me that your perception of the morning
Starting point is 00:31:49 is all the way into four o'clock. That's strange to me. You go to bed at 9.30. Cause it's a minimal impact to me to get up at 4.30 an hour earlier. But like, if you're buying plane tickets back when that happened and you're like, okay, I gotta work backwards from arriving. That means we gotta wake up at 4 a.m. versus,
Starting point is 00:32:11 I mean, psychologically waking up at 5 a.m. versus four anything is a lot worse. But three? Like I'll buy a plane ticket if we have. And I would never get up at three. I've never bought a plane ticket if we have three. And I would never get up at three. I've never bought a plane ticket to get up at three. Precisely, you're confirming my argument. Or four.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Okay, I've done that. I've not done four. Plenty of times we've had a flight. If you got a flight at seven o'clock at LAX. Yeah. You gotta get up at four something to get there. You can't get up at five. I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:32:45 I'm not getting up before five. I just can't do that. Okay, that's fine. But what I'm saying is most early morning flights are in the seven something. And given how long it takes to get to LAX and how busy it is, you gotta get the family up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You're gonna get up at four something, but I never have gotten the family up at three something. We will not do that in our household. Because that's the witching hour. Might see a ghost. Oh, that's why? What was the last thing that filled you with wonder that took you away from your desk or your car in traffic? Well, for us, and I'm going to guess for some of you,
Starting point is 00:33:18 that thing is... Anime! Hi, I'm Nick Friedman. I'm Lee Alec Murray. And I'm Leah President. And welcome to Crunchyroll Presents The Anime Effect. It's a weekly news show. With the best celebrity guests.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And hot takes galore. So join us every Friday wherever you get your podcasts and watch full video episodes on Crunchyroll or on the Crunchyroll YouTube channel. Julia483 asks, if teleportation was possible, how would it work? How would we be able to do that on our own or would we need some devices? How expensive would it be and how would they stop people from teleporting to places that they should not teleport to?
Starting point is 00:34:00 Lots of questions about teleportation, Julia. You're thinking a lot about this. So this is a deconstitution of your molecules and then a skipping through space and time. It's impossible. And then a reconstitution of molecules. We're talking Trekkie and situation here. I have a more formative question.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Oh, you don't? About this. So you, okay. That makes the thought exercise that Julia is inviting us to partake in even more complicated. Do you believe that? Teleportation is my superpower of choice because I believe that it is basically equivalent to flight regardless of the nature of it
Starting point is 00:34:55 because if I could choose between flight or teleportation, I would choose teleportation because I could basically just teleport like an infinite number of times and that's my flight. Or I could just be the guy who like teleports 100 yards and then falls in like a wing squirrel suit and then teleports again and then falls some more
Starting point is 00:35:17 and then teleports a little bit higher. You know, like I'm constantly flying. It's like, I just, I'm just doing it in like the stratosphere. Yes, yes. But here's the thing. and this is the question for- Aerial teleporting. This is the question for time travel too, and I don't know when this first hit me,
Starting point is 00:35:30 and I know that people would probably discuss it, this is not a novel thing, but how do you, what is the point of reference in terms of your locality when you are teleporting or time traveling, right? So how, okay, let's just take back to the future, right? So we forget, when we think about time travel and we think, okay, well, Marty McFly has got to go back to this exact place in this exact time
Starting point is 00:36:01 and he's still gonna be in the town that he was in. at the exact time and he's still gonna be in the town that he was in. He's like, okay, literally he's driving down the road in the middle of the town. And then when he travels in time, he's driving down the same road in the same town. And that's because in our world, our point of reference is the world,
Starting point is 00:36:21 but the world, we are on a sphere, if you believe that, and we are traveling, not only are we spinning, but we're traveling around the sun which is also moving through in our galaxy. When our galaxy, what is the point of reference for time travel or teleportation? Everything's moving so quickly. How did Doc Brown figure out how to have the car come back? The points of reference,
Starting point is 00:36:53 the earth would be in a completely different place in 1985 than it was in 1955. Like not, it would be so far from where it was. So did his machine have a way to like locate where the earth would be? Because- Sure, it was relative. I mean, I think he wrote it- This is not, no, it's not possible.
Starting point is 00:37:12 It's relative to the center of the earth. So- I think he wrote it all on a chalkboard. But okay, so in reality, like, so I don't know. This is easy as writing a script, by the way. They said, they being some people on the news who talk about what scientists come up with, they sent some particle back in time,
Starting point is 00:37:34 like last year or something, right? Like, but like they, I don't know. No, they didn't. Yeah, they did, but not like way back in time. Like they like made a particle like slip off of the timeline a little bit. I'm using non-scientific terms for what actually happened. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:52 But, that's a particle moving a very, very, very small amount of time, right? I don't even really understand the nature of it and I could be getting this wrong. But like, let's say a human moved a year. You're gonna be in fricking space, man. Like, if you move,
Starting point is 00:38:18 in the least you're gonna be in a different country. Like, and also not on the surface. You're gonna be in the Earth's crust. You're gonna be in the center of the Earth. You're gonna be on the top of the surface. You're gonna be in the Earth's crust. You're gonna be in the center of the Earth. You're gonna be on the top of a mountain. You're gonna be way high. But most likely you're gonna be outside of the paper thin atmosphere of the Earth
Starting point is 00:38:33 and no longer present. You're gonna be in just the middle of space if you time travel. Unless they have a point of reference for being in that exact locality. But what is the point of reference if the universe is constantly expanding? And depending on where you are,
Starting point is 00:38:51 well, no matter where you are in the universe, you seem like you're in the center of the universe, right? That's one of the understandings of the way that space and time is expanding, is that you can go anywhere you want to in the universe and you always perceive to be in the middle of it. So there is no point of reference, it's all relative.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Well, you talked me out of wanting to do it. So the first guy who is gonna be like, I'm doing it, I'm time traveling, hopefully, they're like, hold on a second, you're not gonna end up here again, dude, you're gonna die. So don't do it. And the same is true with teleportation. Unless it's like the kind of teleportation where you're,
Starting point is 00:39:33 oh, you can only teleport where you can see, which I think is, there was some movie where that was the case, and I don't know why that was the rule, but you could only teleport where you could see. Sounds safer. And at that point, you don't have why that was the rule, but you could only teleport where you could see. Sounds safer. And at that point, you don't have to worry about the, you're moving instantly
Starting point is 00:39:51 and you're moving to a place you can see, so I think that any like, it's not gonna be a problem. But anyway, that's something that complicates the question for me. Too complicated for me, Julia. I got nothing. Josh West asks, how important do I have to be to be assassinated and not murdered?
Starting point is 00:40:17 First of all, Josh, I want to just send my condolences for your untimely demise. Yeah. But I have to point out that it probably has something to do with your Twitter handle. With a handle like at stud of the west. I mean. He's trying to be important.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I think you're, yeah, I think you're trying a bit too hard and it is gonna backfire with probably some form of a murder. So watch out for yourself. Take self-defense classes. He might be the stud of the West. I mean, do you think you are the stud of the West? I just think that's-
Starting point is 00:40:58 I mean, I've never heard the title. And I haven't heard of Josh. And I think if either one existed, well, I think Josh exists, but- There's a lot of things- If the title existed, I think I would have heard of Josh. There's a lot of things that exist that are at least,
Starting point is 00:41:15 going by what my oldest son says to me, that are really important and really popular- That we don't know about. That I don't know about. So stud of the West may be one of the things that is a big deal in the West. Well, if it is, then he's got the Twitter handle. But I think the distinction between assassination
Starting point is 00:41:35 and murdering is simply political. Like think of the most popular non-political person on earth right now. Some pop star or some athlete, right? Sure, yeah. If they get, if LeBron James, and again, not speaking anything into existence here, if LeBron James were killed,
Starting point is 00:42:00 you wouldn't say LeBron James assassinated because he's not a political figure. I think that they refer to John Lennon's assassination. Well. I think it's. That's strange to me. I'm gonna throw out a couple of things here. That's strange to me, is that true?
Starting point is 00:42:16 I think that, just Google it, John Lennon's, well first of all, bias Google John Lennon's assassination and just see if it's a thing. Because to me the factors are, if you're killed for an ideological reason or to prevent you from accomplishing something on some scale, then I think we might be in assassination territory.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Well. Or if it's done by, well, I was gonna say if it's done by a professional, but a hit on somebody is not an assassination. Well, the Wiki entry is the murder of John Lennon. Does it say assassination anyway? Did you Google what I asked? I did, I said John Lennon assassination.
Starting point is 00:43:07 And the thing that was suggested was John Lennon assassin. So that the person who committed it, okay, someone who kills a public figure. If an assassin murders you, then you are assassinated. I don't, I actually think there's a distinction. So an assassin is someone who? Kills a public figure.
Starting point is 00:43:28 A public figure? Somebody who kills a public figure in like a calculated way. Not like somebody who kills a public figure in like a fight. That's not an assassin. So an assassin can murder somebody or assassinate somebody. But he's called the perpetrator on Wiki. And again, Wiki is the source for all truth.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Murder, resuscitation attempt, oh, this is, this is. 1980. Again, I just think you have to be a political figure. So obviously like if the CIA goes to a foreign land and kills a leader of a country, that's an assassination. If somebody kills a political leader of any kind, that's an assassination. Now, if you're like a city councilman.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Google define assassination. I think it's super right. Let's figure it out first. Because I think that like, I think that's probably it. If you're like the president of the PTA, that's a murder. If you're like the head of the school board,
Starting point is 00:44:43 even in a big city, what is the cutoff? If you're like the head of the school board, even in a big city, what is the cutoff? If you're a mayor, if you're a mayor, that's an assassination. Unless you're like a mayor. School board is elected, so there's an elected official. I think if an elected official is killed and there's an ideological reason or to prevent them from doing something,
Starting point is 00:45:05 it's a low scale assassination. If who does what? I think if you're- Assassination is the act of assassinating someone. Okay, we got it. I think this, I think, Josh, if you wanna be assassinated and not murdered, you just need to join a school board.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Things get heated. Well, and okay, this is not- You need to be a political figure is I think what we're arriving at. This is DiffSense.com, I don't know what that is. When used as nouns, assassination means the murder of a person, especially for political reasons or for personal gain.
Starting point is 00:45:44 So if you like killed someone to get an insurance policy, no, that's not an assassination. Whereas murder means an act of deliberate killing of another being especially. How important do you have to be? You have to be an elected official. It says assassination is the act of deliberately killing a prominent person such as a head of state or head of government.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And assassination may be prompted by political and military motives. But give me an example, we need an example. Of just like an athlete being assassinated. Was Martin Luther King Jr. assassinated? Definitely, 100% that's an assassination. I know it was political. Because he's the leader of a political movement.
Starting point is 00:46:26 He was the leader of a political movement. He wasn't an elected official, but it was a political. Yeah. It could be described as a political movement. Yeah. I'm trying to come up with another example then. If an athlete or a pop star is doing something political. If they're killed for an ideological Bill Gates. an athlete or a pop star is doing something political.
Starting point is 00:46:49 If they're killed for an ideological, Bill Gates. Ooh, he's an old man. That's what he did. So he's a philanthropist. I don't know if that would be an assassination though, because- He's doing all this work, unless you believe the conspiracy, doing all this work to-
Starting point is 00:47:04 He's doing all this work to give everybody the mark of the beast through a vaccination. To help- That's what he's doing all this work, unless you believe the conspiracy, doing all this work to- He's doing all this work to give everybody the mark of the beast through the vaccination. That's what he's doing, because it's fun to believe that. To help people. So if he's murdered in order to prevent that, then that's an assassination. But again, that's socio-political. It's a social thing.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yeah. Now, the Stud of the West, again. Congratulations on the title. Let me just, there's a couple of things about this. Stud implies prominence, importance, coolness, probably good-lookingness. West implies- West implies a region. To the left of the Rockies.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah, but. Or the left of the Mississippi. Mississippi because I mean, yeah, east of the Rockies is still technically the West. Yeah. But the West implies a geopolitical, in my mind, when you say the West, I think he's talking about the American West.
Starting point is 00:48:03 So this is a geopolitical title. The stud of the West is like the best looking, coolest, most athletic dude in this geopolitical region. And as you know- But what is he doing? If you're good looking, if you're a good athlete, you know, the chances of becoming a prominent politician leading a political movement go way up.
Starting point is 00:48:28 So I would say, yeah, Josh, if you're killed, it will be clearly an assassination. Just by virtue of your Twitter handle. At Lexor, hello, Alexandra. Oh, you know what? What are the chances that, and this was not planned. I'm wearing the pin that Alexandra made for me of Barbara's face.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Chances are high you're wearing that a lot. Well, I haven't worn it on the podcast in a long time and we're taking one of her questions. Does everyone have a voice inside their head when they're writing or reading? Is that what my voice actually sounds? Is that what my voice actually sounds like? Or is this what I think my voice sounds like?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Is it even my voice? I don't know if I relate to this because I do not have a voice that I'm hearing when I'm reading. I just feel like I'm taking the words directly to the language center of my brain and I don't feel like I'm translating them into a voice unless I'm reading a fictional book,
Starting point is 00:49:29 at which point the character may adopt some sort of voice and image in my mind. But if I'm just reading words, like reading this question- Or an autobiography, you hear the person who's reading it. Like when I was talking about the Flea autobiography, I hear him- Of course.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Especially because of his writing style. But yeah, right. But if you're just reading like. An email, an email, don't you, do you hear the person? Well, see, this is it. See, when I was- What she's asking is do you hear yourself reading it out loud to yourself? Cause she's like, is that my voice?
Starting point is 00:50:03 Is this what my voice sounds like? Or do I have a special inside my head voice? Let me just read some stuff here silently. Well, now that you're thinking about it, now it's impossible. Now that I think about it, I'm hearing my voice. Yeah. Reading it to me. Yeah, because you're manifesting that.
Starting point is 00:50:22 But if you hadn't been, it's just like, don't think of a pink elephant. What'd you think of? A suitcase. You thought of a pink elephant. So you can't do this. You can't say what I thought of. You're telling me you didn't just picture a pink elephant?
Starting point is 00:50:36 I deliberately didn't. But I did. Right behind that suitcase was a pink elephant. It flashed for a second and then I put it in a suitcase. Right, which is the same thing that's happened in here. I can safely say that just normal reading of words and also, I mean, let's just translate this just to thoughts in general.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Like when you're thinking through something, are you like, you know, your brain is processing information most of the time and you're making a decision whether or not you're translating that into the English language, right? Because the English language is just a proxy for some things that are happening in the world, right? It's just an interpretation, but it isn't, it doesn't actually mean anything directly.
Starting point is 00:51:21 It just represents meaning. Well, definitely when I'm, to take one step back, when I'm writing something, I mean, definitely an email. When I write an email, I write it like I'm saying it for the most part. But that's, I think that's a, it's a style choice. Not everybody does that. Some people, you know, you can hear, you can hear more,
Starting point is 00:51:44 you can hear some people more than others in their emails. Okay. Because some people just, they have a writing style. I'm not much of a writer. So I think that's why I do that. I'm more of a verbal processor. So when I write something down to communicate it,
Starting point is 00:52:02 I write down what I would say if I were there. And then if I get in my head, I'll like edit it like crazy. But when you think. But when I think. Are you like, cause to me, if I'm really thinking hard about something. I'm not hearing a voice in my head, no. There are times because I feel like
Starting point is 00:52:20 you're most people are thinking about multiple things at once. And then if you like really focus, you might be able, I can generate like an actual sort of like, this is the voice saying the thing, like you should do this almost, you know what I'm saying? Or whatever. But, and this is why it's gonna be really difficult
Starting point is 00:52:40 to ever invent the like mind reading device. Think about all the things that have to happen. Like you have to find a way to interpret someone's thoughts and then translate them into coherent speech. That's not even happening in their brain. So how's that gonna happen outside of their brain? I'm sure there's studies where you can monitor the language center of the brain when somebody's reading. And I bet sure there's studies where, you know, you can monitor the language center of the brain
Starting point is 00:53:06 when somebody's reading. And I bet you there's plenty of people right now who are listening and thinking, I definitely hear a voice when I read and when I write. I mean, I've said that I hear a voice, my voice, when I write more often than not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'd guess that you don't.
Starting point is 00:53:24 No, I'm saying I can activate that like now that I'm thinking about it. Like if you're writing an email versus a script, when you write the email, do you hear yourself? Not until I read it back to myself. You want to read it back, but not when you're writing it. Not when I'm evaluating, how does this come across? At that point, I might hear a voice.
Starting point is 00:53:43 But I do think that's interesting because I think that regardless of how, you know, like Elon Musk's neural link, you know, how, what is that gonna do? I think at best, we're gonna be able to sort of generate interpretations of emotions. Like this person is angry. This person is lying.
Starting point is 00:54:03 This person is turned on right now. But this person is thinking this This person is lying. This person is turned on right now. But this person is thinking this specifically? No way. But you could probably have, in addition to the way that the brain centers are being highlighted, some sort of AI that gives a pretty predictable, but not, gives a pretty predictable interpretation
Starting point is 00:54:29 of what somebody's thinking. But it won't be like, and here's the sentence related to it, but you'll just know based on the question that you're asking or the interpretation that they're, the conversation they're having, what they would be saying. And maybe there's some robot that could like put it into almost words.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Digest.bps.org.uk says. The websites that we pull up. Well, when you Google it is, you know, it's the first thing that comes up. A new paper published in Psychosis, I love that magazine, suggests that most people do hear an internal voice when they're reading. For those who heard different inner voices,
Starting point is 00:55:10 these tended to vary based on the voice of the character who was speaking in a story, or if it was a text message or email on the voice of the sender. I, like I said, I relate to that. Medical daily hearing voices in your head, more than 80% of readers have inner voice, but not everyone shares the same narrator.
Starting point is 00:55:32 While silently reading a book, text message, or this article to yourself, a voice may emerge from the back of your mind to narrate the sentences. 80%. I just, okay, I'm not saying I don't believe that, but I have to believe that this slows you down. Like taking the time to turn it into a voice.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Doesn't that make it, like what about people who speed read? I don't know, I don't do that. But there's people who like, you can't, you know what I'm saying? Like you gotta let go of the voice, I think. You gotta let go of the voice? Find a way just to let it go directly to your brain.
Starting point is 00:56:13 I mean, I'm not convinced. I mean, you don't think you do, but maybe you do. 80% do. I said I do when I'm reading something where it's like a caricature voice or whatever. I get that. You know? Or it might be, but it's not,
Starting point is 00:56:30 but maybe I'm misinterpreting this. Are you saying that it's like the entire thing is being spoken by somebody that you're hearing in your head or is it just like, oh, I got an email from Link. I'm loosely associating the words that I'm reading on this page with the way that he would say them. But it's not a process that's so fine tuned that like, he might as well be inside my head speaking.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Like that has not happened to me. I'm kind of twisted because I, every single time I get an email, like if I don't know the person I've got an email from, or if I'm reading an article, I don't think, I think I only hear a voice when I know who it is. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:16 And even then what I'm saying is that it's like a touch and go kind of thing. I get lost in it and eventually move beyond the person's voice just to the content. See, I'm reading this freaking article right now and I'm hearing myself read it to myself. I gotta go back to that. Yeah, I can turn it off.
Starting point is 00:57:37 It's very comforting. But what does a person sound like? Me. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Boy, you've really stumped us here, Alexandra. Well, we've been stumped left and right here today, but it's been fun.
Starting point is 00:57:58 It's kinda like indulging in a conspiracy theory. And I wonder if listening to audio books, which I do more and more, makes this more likely or less likely. You would think that it has to make it more likely. You know, you just get into this place where I'm just taking in books as people's voices only. It seems like the easy study is somebody,
Starting point is 00:58:24 you hook somebody's brain up and you let them read. Put a microphone in their brain. And then you the easy study is somebody, you hook somebody's brain up. Put a microphone. You let them read. Put a microphone in their brain. And then you let them listen to somebody talk and see if the same part of the brain lights up. I don't, you know, it's within the language center. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Let's do that. Thanks for making us think about this stuff. What? I'm exhausted. You know, sometimes that's all you can do is just think. You know, you're stuck at home, you're not going out to the restaurants, you're not hugging people, hadn't seen your parents.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Just try to go within yourself and discover something. Just listen to that little voice that you hear constantly while you're reading. Or go outside and play with something you bought. Ah, rec time. Rec baby, rec baby, one, two, three, four. When we were at the beach, I was reminded of this game that exists that I had forgotten about
Starting point is 00:59:21 that I knew about, Spikeball. I've seen people on the beach with- Super popular now. Yeah. Everybody's playing it. So you're saying this isn't much of a wreck? No, no, I'm just saying it is the game of choice on the beaches now. Yeah, it's the new cornhole for the beach.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Is that the name of it? I didn't know the name of it. Spikeball. Spikeball? So it's like a hula hoop with a net stretch, reasonably taut over it, and then it's got four legs. And then you got this little ball, and you just bat it down, like serve it, bounce it off, and then you can, I think you can-
Starting point is 00:59:54 It's like volleyball rules. Yeah, volleyball, then you can hit it twice to yourself, and then hit it back over, if you're just playing against somebody, at least that's how we're doing it in our house. Oh, so have you done the four-way game? I have not mobilized four people in my family to all participate at once.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I watched a four-way game at the beach on my vacation. That seems the most fun. And I surmised it was, you could not touch it twice yourself. That it was like volleyball, you had to hit it to your partner. I mean, it's Lincoln and Lando play, even with the age discrepancy, they have a good time playing together. So it's better volleyball, you had to hit it to your partner. I mean, it's Lincoln and Lando play, even with the age discrepancy,
Starting point is 01:00:26 they have a good time playing together. So it's better than tetherball. Yeah, yeah, it's better than tetherball. If you're thinking about getting a tetherball, don't, okay? It needs to die. Tetherball needs to go. We have one. Yeah, and have you used it?
Starting point is 01:00:38 Well, there was a pole that we would walk to and hook it up and- Yeah, yeah, and when was the last time you did that? Can't even remember. Tetherball only exists as a joke in entertainment. When it jammed the crap out of my finger when I was playing. Yeah, yeah, Tetherball is just an accident waiting to happen.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Spikeball, you can get one on Amazon for less than 30 bucks, a whole set. That's a pretty good deal. You know, if you play five times, you pay for the thing, you know? Why, because you charge $6 every time? Yeah. Oh, you said $15.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Or $30, you said $30? $30. Okay, yeah. Six, I was right the first time. Yeah, so hey, try it out, even with just two people, it's still fun. And it's lightweight, you can take it to the beach. It can't, I don't think, maybe it fits in a carrier, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:30 It does fit in a carrier because I was at that- Then you can assemble it out there. I was on a beach that you had to walk down the steps to get to. I don't know, I think my $30 one does that. And the guy had it in a backpack and he broke it out and I was like, whoa, okay, here we go. Try out spike ball if you get someone who likes to knock balls with you.
Starting point is 01:01:47 It seems to be much more enjoyable when you're intoxicated, just based on my experience watching the game. It's also harder when you're holding a beer in one hand. I think my kids would concur. Okay, spike ball, spike it up. Yeah, look at that. Social distance.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Anything to get these kids doing something outside for a few minutes. Hell, you can do that inside. Oh, you can do it inside, yeah. It gets it kind of out of control, I wouldn't do that. Don't do it outside, don't do it inside, I mean. Do it outside. Just let me finish the rag, that's it.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Do it outside. Okay. As long as you're not alone. Let us know what you thought about the discussion this week, hashtag GearBiscuits. You probably know something we don't because we were just really blind blind. Give us the real science.
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