Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - 274: Our Most Memorable Meal | Ear Biscuits Ep.274

Episode Date: February 8, 2021

From Nanny's fried chicken on a Sunday afternoon to splitting Hamburger Helpers in college, R&L look back on some of their most memorable meals and what made them so unforgettable in this episode of E...ar Biscuits! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:44 This week at the round table of dim lighting, we are reminiscing. I was like, I was like, I know it is a song reminiscing, but I don't quite remember the tune right now. You might get in trouble singing it anyway. Yeah, so I just bailed. Don't wanna get kicked off the platform. I made up a new song.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Reminiscing. About, what is it? I just bailed. Don't wanna get kicked off the platform. I made up a new song. Reminiscing. Reminiscing. About, what is it? Oh, our most memorable meals. What is it? I almost forgot. Was that a joke? That is irony for you. Ironclad irony.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Yeah, what are your most memorable meals and what are our most memorable meals? And I'm sure hearing from them, Liam, dang, I can't talk now. Hearing from them and reminiscing about their most memorable meals will make us remember more meals that are maybe more memorable
Starting point is 00:01:36 than the ones that I have remembered in advance of this. Yes. I do wanna say that we wanna give you a heads up about next week's and the next week's episodes of Ear Biscuits because we are doing what we're calling our deconstruction stories one year later and we're each gonna get an episode because hey, we each got an episode before to tell our story.
Starting point is 00:02:01 So this is gonna be where are we at in the process and whatever we wanna say one year later from each one of us. So if that subject matter intrigues you. It's like an annual dose of spirituality. Well, I'd like to think you get more than just an annual dose. Yeah, we can pepper it in.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yeah, but it will be sort of the like, let it all hang out spiritually speaking and tell you where we're at. But yeah, so I wanted to start just by asking you, do you remember what you had for dinner last night? I just found something in the corner of my eye. You're not gonna eat it, are you? No, has that been there all day?
Starting point is 00:02:40 I mean, you know- When you wear glasses, you don't have to worry about eye crusties and stuff. I have to scrape eye crusties out of like the corner of Jade's eyes, like get kind of weeps down her nose. Oh yeah, well. For those of you who don't know, that's my wife. No, that's my dog.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And then she likes to eat it. I'm not saying that I feed it to her. Yeah, I think you are saying that. I'm saying that she- If she eats it, then that means that you took it off and you put it somewhere and let her eat it. Like in her mouth? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah, I did. Yeah, you're admitting that. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but- She wants to eat it. I know she wants to eat it, because the moment I get it out of her eye, she's scrambling to eat it. Golly, man, why don't she just lick her own eyes?
Starting point is 00:03:23 But I have to admit that I've just resorted to just feeding it to her. That's horrible, isn't it? I'm embarrassed. This isn't the way I wanted to start a most memorable meal. I was asking you what you ate last night. Oh man, I regret, I regret. Every time I do it, I regret it,
Starting point is 00:03:45 but I regret even more sharing that. But you know, this is a safe space. Not anymore. Oh gosh. What do I remember, what? Do you remember what you ate last night? You don't even remember my question. Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It took a second, but I ate a baked fish dish. A baked fish dish. Yeah, the reason why I was like, wow, of course I remember this is because Christy was, I was like, what's for dinner? And Christy was like, I'm making some fish. I'm like, what? We don't do fish.
Starting point is 00:04:16 We don't really, we don't eat that much fish at home. Cause you gotta, you know, you gotta figure out how to prepare it. It's like- Gotta figure it out, man. Chicken is so easy and so many options. I don't know, who am I to say? Anyway-
Starting point is 00:04:30 You wouldn't know how to cook fish, chicken, regardless, it doesn't matter. This is not about me. She made a baked fish dish. Do you know what kind of fish it was? I think it was a rockfish. It was a white flaky fish. I really, I mean, you didn't ask this, but-
Starting point is 00:04:51 You didn't like it? I was really torn if I was gonna tell her what I thought of it. I didn't, I'll just talk about it on this podcast. Well, I did say, you know, we found this fish place that we ordered lunch from and I really like it and they make this fish and they put Cajun seasoning on it,
Starting point is 00:05:08 sometimes garlic butter. I know garlic butter is not good for you, but that's a really good combination, having both of those, or just the Cajun seasoning. And I left it at that. What would you- You just wanted her to take it and run with it? That was basically my way of saying-
Starting point is 00:05:23 I want you to make me a restaurant style. That fish is better than the fish you made. Oh no, okay, I get what you're saying. Which was like, it had onions and like lime and it didn't really come together. And I was like, did you bake it or saute it? She was like, I baked it. I was like, well, you could saute it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I don't think you know what's gonna make it good. I don't, but I was trying to come up with a constructive and subtle way to say I didn't like it. Well, I wasn't really expecting us to get into this level of analysis. I was just gonna ask you if you remembered it. When you don't like something that Christy made. Christy, she makes meals for me all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I mean, Jessie. Do you just tell her? Because I could have just told her. No, no, we- It's delicate though. I don't know- Because who am I? I'm not a cooker. Well, see, I am, right?
Starting point is 00:06:17 So I make quite a few meals at our house. Not as many as Jessie, but it's getting pretty close to some degree, but there is this moment of sort of critique when we start eating something. Like, if I made something like, so last night I made pork chops, well, I made pork chops on the grill and Jesse made some like cauliflower and something else on the side.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And it's like, when we sit down, I'm like, all right, what do you think? And I'm like, I think I may have overcooked these a little bit. Like there's a, and then Jessie's like, I don't know, maybe I should start doing a different seasoning on the cauliflower. Like we have a moment of analysis
Starting point is 00:07:02 and sort of like critical analysis around what we've made. And that's pretty common. It does get kind of demoralizing because our kids pretty picky and the nature of the conversation is not anything like what we would have had in my house growing up. You didn't tell.
Starting point is 00:07:19 So do they get on the critique? Is that what you're saying? They do. My kids are smart enough to stay quiet when I said that. Of course, Lincoln didn't eat fish at all, he had chicken nuggets. Okay, well that was an insult. But no, my kids will do that,
Starting point is 00:07:31 they'll opt out of a dish altogether. There was no opting out for us. I mean, you ate what your mama gave you. But anyway, the thing is is that if I hadn't have asked you to think about that meal that you had last night, and I hadn't think about that meal that you had last night, and I hadn't thought about the meal that I had last night, I would forget about it.
Starting point is 00:07:51 You know what I'm saying? There might be no other time in my life when I would stop and think about the meal last night. There was nothing remarkable about the food, and there was nothing remarkable about the setting and the circumstances. Cause it's interesting as you start looking at people's most memorable meals,
Starting point is 00:08:12 it's definitely, there's not one thing in common. There's a bunch of different sets of factors that can determine something being this meal is going to stick with me for the rest of my life. It's kind of fascinating. Yeah, so we're gonna get into what you said are your most memorable meals. Thank you for responding.
Starting point is 00:08:33 You know, we make the post on our Twitter account, at Mythical. We do that a lot. If you wanna be recognized, get a shout out, dictate the conversation to an Ear Biscuit, follow us on our Twitter account at Mythical. We do, I mean, a week won't go by where there's some question that we're trying to-
Starting point is 00:08:52 A week won't go by. We won't let a week go by. We're trying to put out there. I mean, the fish I would have remembered. I think I'm more likely to remember because we don't eat much fish and it wasn't that great. Have I said that? But- It's kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Most meals just kind of blow by because you've got it on average three a day, unless you're a hobbit. Right. And they just kind of wash over you. But let's just, let's get to one here. This one is from au2237, Webb and Elise.
Starting point is 00:09:28 My cousins and I went to Yellowstone when I was young. We bought a frozen Stouffer's mac and cheese and put it directly in the fire to cook it. I could see how you could do that because it's, you know, it's that aluminum pan, you just throw it right in the fire. It was repulsive, half cold and tasted like ash. I said ash.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah, be clear on that. And the fact that we all got sick later in the trip may have not been a coincidence. Yeah, the old so bad you can't forget it meal. Yeah. One thing- Usually when you're camping, everything tastes better. Yeah, everything tastes better. One thing I will note about this is,
Starting point is 00:10:15 the last sentence, we all got sick later in the trip, that may not have been a coincidence. I don't know, I don't even remember what the context was. I was listening to someone who specializes in foodborne illnesses, like they were on a video or a guest on a podcast or something. And the woman was saying, "'It cracks me up how often anyone who has
Starting point is 00:10:40 some sort of sickness, they always think they know where it came from. Yeah. They're like, I had some bad sushi last night or da, da, da, da, da. And she's basically like, you have no way of knowing. But what happens is, is when something, you get sick after a meal,
Starting point is 00:10:58 you think in your sleuthing skills, you know exactly what caused it. And then it turns you against that food for a certain amount of time, maybe the rest of your life. Her point was is people are almost always incorrect about that assumption. Because she said that, for instance, one of the most common things
Starting point is 00:11:14 is that there was a food handling mistake. Like you didn't realize that there was a little bit of salmonella on your cutting board when you cut those vegetables for the salad or something like that. And it takes about, it could take anywhere from like 24 hours to 72 hours for that to manifest itself. And she's like the window of time between inciting event
Starting point is 00:11:32 and the purge that the body goes through is so variable that people just don't know, but yet you associate, everyone always thinks it's that, oh, I know exactly what meal it was. And I think saying food poisoning is kind of shorthand of like, yeah, I was sick. I was almost to like a debilitate, like I couldn't come to work
Starting point is 00:11:57 or I couldn't make it to this thing. So it's a valid excuse, but then also it's reassuring when that person is talking to you, is that, well, it was because of food I ate, I'm not contagious. So it's just kind of a, it's a shorthand to get to both of those. I also think another reason people do it is because,
Starting point is 00:12:15 you know, not to get graphic, but if you vomit up that ham sandwich you ate at Hardee's when you were nine years old, which is what happened to me, and I can't eat roast beef at Hardee's when you were nine years old. Yeah. And you, which is what happened to me and I can't eat roast beef at Hardee's anymore, which, it's been tough to navigate that one my entire life. I'll tell you. Roast beef at Hardee's?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah, yeah. Is that still a thing? I don't think so. An Arby's or? No, at a Hardee's. At a Hardee's, Carl's Jr. But when you upchuck a meal. You think the meal costs it. And you're looking at it.
Starting point is 00:12:47 It's an association thing. Then you're like, that's gross. I bet that's what came up. That must be what my body rejected because it was the source of it. Of course, that's not how it works. No, because it was- I think that is the principle
Starting point is 00:13:02 that your body's working on, but- It was probably something that you ate in a previous meal and it's saying, I'm getting rid of everything, including what you just ate. And you're just being like, well, I'm gonna connect the dots. And people almost always associate it with a food experience that they weren't controlling.
Starting point is 00:13:19 So people almost always say, what was that restaurant I went to? Or what was that takeout that I got? But it definitely wasn't the sandwich that I made for myself. You know what I'm saying? Like they don't wanna take responsibility for it. What's probably the thing you did.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It might be bad sushi, who knows? But you don't know and you should probably just try not to figure it out. It's such an expedient explanation that I don't think this is gonna change my behavior. Well, I'm just saying next time you get sick and you think it's food poisoning, just resist the urge to tie it to one particular meal
Starting point is 00:13:49 because you don't wanna ruin a food for yourself if you don't have to. Like, I don't know if Annalise now doesn't eat mac and cheese or if she just doesn't eat mac and cheese that's cooked over a fire, which that whole thing, trying to cook over a fire and not getting the fire down low enough, and so you've got like ash going into it,
Starting point is 00:14:11 I've made that mistake a few times. I mean, most memorable camping story, I think that this triggers for me is the one time we went to summer camp and that's where we learned about hobo burgers. Where you put the ground beef and- Potatoes. Potatoes, onions, some-
Starting point is 00:14:32 Barbecue sauce. I seem to remember carrots. Carrots were in there first time for sure. And barbecue sauce. And then you make a pocket and then you wrap up the third thing and you- Air tight. Seal it tight and then it blows up like a balloon
Starting point is 00:14:45 when you put it down in the ashes. And if yours doesn't blow up like a balloon, you made a mistake in the rolling. That's right, that's on you. It's on you. And it was just like one more thing that was an entirely new experience. That we ended up doing many times while camping afterwards.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, haven't done that with the kids. We talked to the kids about that on the Death Valley trip, but we didn't actually do it. Yeah. Because it does require building up a fire. It's a little more work than- You gotta get, it's gotta go down to ash. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:15 To just the coals to work ideally. All right, here's another one from DeReal8woop on Twitter. My parents had eight children, including me. Well, okay, wow. from TheRealEightwoop on Twitter. My parents had eight children, including me. Okay, wow. I am number six. Mom made spaghetti for dinner. Mom left the room. Dad took plain piece of spaghetti
Starting point is 00:15:36 and twirled it over his head like a lasso. Okay. All us kids laughed and started twirling spaghetti over our heads. Ours had sauce. Mom came back. Oh. End of story. That's it.
Starting point is 00:15:48 That's a good, that's a well-constructed tweet, Ike Dwu. You know, I painted a picture, spaghetti sauce everywhere. Of course it's dad's fault. This is like something that happens in a movie or a book. This isn't something that happens in real life, is it? I guess it is.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I mean, when you have that many kids, something's always happening. You know, I mean, with three kids, there's always something. There's always a fire to put out, sometimes literally. I've only got two. And the amount of things that get broken and spilled. And I just, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:30 I just don't think my family's built for more children. I think those families that have a lot of kids, like they made an observation about the first one and then the second one and then the third one, they were like, okay, we can manage this. We made observations about our children and we're like, did we make a mistake? Christy counts me as one of the children
Starting point is 00:16:48 and I can't argue with that. But you know, I mean, talking about a family memory happening over mealtime, I mean, as I was racking my brain for my most memorable meals, one of the first things that came to my mind was, you know, it's not so much the one meal as gathering around the same table. Like I can picture the table that my mom had,
Starting point is 00:17:12 that the two of us grew up around, you know, it was, we would sit down and have a lot of meals together. It wasn't, you know, she might've only made five or so dishes and then rotated them, but we would all sit down at that, you know, that wooden table. I actually think it was the table with Jimmy and Emmy too. Like, so the four of us have family gathered around that table and then when the divorce happened,
Starting point is 00:17:40 we took that table with us, Jack. But you know, it's, I'm glad that as a family, we still have this expectation that we're gonna try to have meals around the table. And a lot of times it's like, well, let's just sit around the television. There's something going on. Let's watch something or eat separately or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But I mean, that's when, it's not so much the specific memories as it is just the general memory of having a place that you gather. And that's important. But the, I think just as memorable to me and special to me is growing up every other Sunday after church, we would go to my nanny's house
Starting point is 00:18:22 and my mom's mom. This is the one, my grandma that passed away this past summer and I wasn't able to go home. And one of the, you know, when I was just thinking about all of my fond memories of her, just her fried chicken, like my favorite fried chicken I've ever eaten. Did she do fried chicken every time?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Pretty much every time. Like one out of every four times, it might be like a pork roast or something else, but like she knew how much I loved her fried chicken. And so she would, she would fry the neck bone. And I bet it might surprise you, but I would eat the neck bone. I would eat, and I would eat that first.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And then I would eat it. There's not a lot to eat though. You eat the breading off of it? I mean, it's like that long. It's a lot longer than you think. Like the neck bone. I mean, how long is that? Four inches.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Four inches. I mean, I wouldn't think, a chicken's not much longer than that. That's more than half of a chicken is the neck. It's longer than you think. The neck goes deep down in there and there's a little bit of meat on it. It was kind of nasty to be gnawing on this dinosaur-like
Starting point is 00:19:34 neck, but a miniature dinosaur neck. It is kind of weird because I mean, a lot of kids are really sensitive about identifying bones and body parts in meat. Your kids are like that. Yeah, yeah. And I would move on to the chicken leg and then the thigh. I would eat, I'd eat a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I'd eat all the dark meat. I'd eat two thighs, two legs and the neck. The neck is dark meat. And by the way, I don't know if you can hear it, it's shaking our table, but the sound that was here last episode, it's back. They're just doing some work somewhere and it like reverberates through the ground
Starting point is 00:20:08 and we're trying to get it out of the mix. So you may not hear it at all and then what I just said is pointless, but just to acknowledge that. But my most memorable meals, I think that is like the most memorable meal tradition is all right, we know we're going to Nanny's after church, but I remember when Pastor Rogers would be like
Starting point is 00:20:27 droning on about his sermon. Droning on about his sermon. I would be picturing that fried chicken, man. You came, didn't you, you came over a few times. I don't think I ever had her fried chicken. Or I guess I don't remember it if I did. Huh. I'm sure I would. But you came over don't remember it if I did. Huh. I'm sure I would.
Starting point is 00:20:46 But you came over there because we would ride the golf cart together. Yeah, but I don't think that was a Sunday afternoon thing. Yeah. I think it was other times like a Saturday or something. It was a small table. There wasn't, we'd bring in all the chairs and there wasn't enough room for a guest.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I don't remember eating dinner over there. I think I would invite you to come over afterward. I literally think it was- Don't give him the neck bone. Don't give him anything, by the way. It was a capacity thing. Well, because all my family, extended family was in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:21:14 So I've got some memorable meals and one in particular I'll talk about in a second, but I didn't have the regular going to grandma's house, but also do have a story about grandma coming over. Shop Best Buy's ultimate smartphone sale today. Get a Best Buy gift card of up to $200 on select phone activations with major carriers. Visit your nearest Best Buy store today. Terms and conditions apply.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Today, terms and conditions apply. While we're only subject to family, so interestingly that you mentioned fish because fish, I'll tell one of my fish stories, but fish actually is something that came to mind. Uh-huh. The first thing, the first memorable meal that I thought about was at my Aunt Helen's house. So Aunt Helen, it was my grandmother's sister
Starting point is 00:22:09 and my grandmother, Mama Nell. Aunt Helen, she's still around down in Georgia. She's the one I talked about. Her husband was Gibbs Patrick who had the farm, who incidentally, when I said that in one recent episode, somebody commented, I think I said it on Good Mythical More, somebody commented on YouTube, I can't believe that your uncle is Gibbs.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I worked at the farm for years. Really? So small world. But anyway, they had a pond on the farm and a little lake house, just a little cabin that was on the main pond there. A pond house? It was a pond house. And that's where we would stay
Starting point is 00:22:47 when we went to stay with them. Oh, cool. And my favorite thing about the whole deal was fishing. So we would have cane poles and then corn for bait and you would catch brim and bass, maybe some crappie. Can't really remember that. And this had this visceral memory of catching the fish, cleaning the fish, and all we did to clean the fish was
Starting point is 00:23:15 cut the guts out, like cut the belly, take the guts out, and then descale it. Yeah. But they left the fins on, left the heads on, left the tails on, gave it to Aunt Helen and she battered those suckers up and fried the fish whole and then we would all go and sit around this big plate of just whole fish. Like I'm gonna put a whole brim on my plate
Starting point is 00:23:39 or I'm gonna put a whole bass on my plate. Yeah. And I just, it was so mind blowing because it was like, we were just, like we were just catching these fish. Like these fish were just happening in the lake. Fresh. And now you did this thing to them and now we're doing this thing to them, eating them.
Starting point is 00:23:59 You felt like a hunter gatherer. Yeah, there's just something, you know, deep in your DNA that kind of connects with that, with the process of like, I took this from nature. The immediacy of survival. Processed it and put it in my belly in the context of the people that did that with me and they are my family.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Like that's a- It's a memorable meal, my friend. You don't get that a lot, you know? We don't get that in everyday society. Yeah, my papa Neil, he would do fish fries like that because he'd freeze the fish. And so, you know, by the time he would take the boat out and we'd go fishing and come back or whatever,
Starting point is 00:24:37 he was typically too exhausted to then have an actual full blown fish fry, but we'd wait till another time. Well, you know, okay, and I'm just gonna, just so I don't double back on this, another meal that came to mind was a very similar thing. I think it was when we had gone to Santa Cruz for Summer Project and Locke had just been born
Starting point is 00:25:00 right before that. Yeah. And we got back and Jessie's family was like, hey, we've rented a houseboat for everybody to stay on. And now we're talking a very, I mean, not a very big boat. And it was gonna be me and Jessie and Locke as a baby. And then Jessie's sister and husband and their two boys, Jessie's parents and Jessie's grandparents, both Gaga and Papa still alive. Sleeping on the?
Starting point is 00:25:28 Sleeping on this houseboat that was anchored in the sound in between the Outer Banks and the mainland in North Carolina. I was like, this is nuts, but I'm up for it, right? And somehow the way, it's kind of like an RV where like, oh, there's a bed here kind of thing. They've kind of worked it out. So I don't know how many people that was,
Starting point is 00:25:47 but maybe a dozen, everybody is sleeping. Oh wow. But they also, the people who gave you, let you rent the houseboat, gave you like a smaller John boat with a motor on it to like kind of go around the sound with. And me and my brother-in-law, Chris, my father-in-law and Papa went out and we caught flounder.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And of course, you know, flounder are those fish that are really like a dinner plate and they are- Both their eyes are on one side. Yeah, they're completely white on the bottom and then they're like fish colored on the top and both of their eyes are on, cause they just stay on the bottom. So crazy. And we caught a bunch of these flounder,
Starting point is 00:26:30 took them back to the boat and my brother-in-law cooked them right as soon as we got back, he like sauteed them. And I remember that my mother-in-law had some sun dried tomatoes and like olive oil or something. And he like cooked these things in that. And then we ate it and I was like, this is the best food I've ever had in my life.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And it was, again, it was a- You did well if you worked for it. It was the experience and it was the freshness too. Like taking something out of the water and then within an hour putting it in your mouth, it doesn't get any better than that. So I highly recommend fresh fish. Jamie Mitchell Naragon replied to us.
Starting point is 00:27:18 She said, on a school trip to Germany in the mid 90s, we were led into a crypt that apparently served food. Sounds cool. We never figured out completely what we were eating, but we maintained it was rat tail soup and some sweet pork butt. Then a kid lit his hair on fire. Yeah, I mean, that makes for a memorable meal
Starting point is 00:27:39 if you're on a school trip and someone catches on fire. The hair on fire is probably the exclamation point on that memory that caused it to never go away. I mean, this reminds me of when we were in London and we were desperate to find a place to eat and then- Pizza? That night? Where we got the chips.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Oh, we ate in an old prison. Yeah, because it was an old prison and they had like somehow forced it. I mean, it's like a bricked in like cell that then, I mean. There was a booth in there. Yeah, they had taken the wall down. So you would just scoot, scoot, scoot, scoot on either side of this huge table.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And we ordered. Basically it was a bar designed to just go drink, but we were super hungry. He was like, you got anything to eat? He was like, I have some Mexican crisps. Yeah, so they were like the worst tortilla chips we had ever had, but the best Mexican crisps we had ever had, I guess if Mexican crisps we had ever had,
Starting point is 00:28:45 I guess if you want to call it that. And the salsa was ketchup with onions in it. It was the best way to describe it. What was the last thing that filled you with wonder that took you away from your desk or your car in traffic? Well, for us, and I'm going to guess for some of you, that thing is... Anime!
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Starting point is 00:29:21 I mean, one of my best meals, if you just focus on the food and we've talked about this before, and I mean, this has to be in your top five, is like in London, going to Dishoom, the Indian cuisine restaurant. That was on my list. Yeah, when we went to VidCon London and we performed and then we got reservations there.
Starting point is 00:29:45 We went there with our agent and Stevie and Jenna were there too. And it was so good. The food was so good, the drinks were so good. I mean, it was just, I don't know, it was amazing. And we had to wait, you know, that's part of it. You know, just having to wait for over an hour and have somebody wait in line
Starting point is 00:30:07 and everyone else could walk around, but then someone had to stick around. And so there was this expectation that if you can just walk right onto the roller coaster, oh, it was pretty good. But you know, if you've waited for an hour and a half to get on that thing, that's part of the experience.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And for it to pay off so strongly. The food was just so good and the hype. Things rarely lived up to that much hype. Well, but I think it depends on your personality, right? So I tend to believe the hype. If you start hyping something up, some people are like, it probably isn't as good as he's making out to be.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And they kind of want to contradict you. Yeah. But I'm a believe the hype, go along with the hype. If somebody gets super excited about introducing me to something, it makes it taste better to me, right? Because I do that to people. I'm like, hey, I want you to enjoy this.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Right, and that's part of the fun of it. And there was something about how much it had been talked up. And I guess it was Brent who was like, you gotta go to this place. I mean, I can't either, I can't remember if he was like, you're gonna absolutely love this place. I think we looked it up and it was very highly rated.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And then- There was just so much hype around it. And I was just like totally on board. And so then- It was one of the rare occasions where, I mean, we were starving and then we had drinks and they were strong drinks and- And they brought you, and they like mixed,
Starting point is 00:31:34 they brought the drinks in this little, they would bring you a glass of ice and then like the garnishes that go on a particular drink, like say an old fashioned. So there would be like an orange peel or something like that and then they would bring you the mixed alcohol in a separate container with a cork on it and you take that cork out and pour it into your thing.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Now again- Pretty old fashioned, yeah. This, if you really think about that, it's just kind of an easy way to mix drinks ahead of time so it makes it easier on the bartenders. But again, because I fully buy into the hype, I think, I say things like, oh, it's in a little container? This is awesome.
Starting point is 00:32:11 And that's, I start reinforcing it. The thing I remember is getting a little drunk and then the food coming out and being absolutely starving. That's where you wanna be. And I just don't, I never drink. I just don't drink that much. And when I drink, it's, I don't know. I don't have a great experience.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Well, I think that drinking- That was very exceptional. Well, drinking in the context of great food is when I'm into the concept. The idea of like, hey, let's just sit around and drink a bunch of beer or something like that. Or like, I'm just sitting around and sip whiskey. I'm kind of like, ah, I can take it or leave it.
Starting point is 00:32:47 But if you give me some really good wine with some really good food, or there's like really good mixed drinks, cocktails with really good food, that there's just something magical about that. You may not feel great afterwards, but in the moment you feel incredible. You had the, and we had good company.
Starting point is 00:33:01 There was lots of, I mean, we were in a strange land. First time I had ever been to London and we were, you know, it was, we were having a good company. There was lots of, I mean, we were in a strange land. First time I had ever been to London and we were, you know, it was, we were having a good time. We were trading stories, we were trading laughs and the wait staff were like along for the ride. So I think that has to be the most, if you isolate the, just the meal, I think it's my top. So much so- It's never got any better for me.
Starting point is 00:33:28 It's like, cause Christy and I took Lily back to London. It was just a few weeks later. I talked about it on this podcast and we went back there and we went to the second location in between the two, I don't know if you call them acts or whatever it is, the two different, there's the first play and the second play for the Harry Potter play. So we went in between the two and it was the food,
Starting point is 00:33:52 I built it up for them and the food was just as great. I mean, I can't wait to go back. But the company. Well, so when I went back to London, I also went with my family, but we went to the same location that we did with everybody before. And this, it was incredible,
Starting point is 00:34:09 but when four people eat, you don't get as many things. The thing that made that first time so great is the fact that it was the first time, and the group was so big that you ended up getting, when you eat Indian food, you want a taste of everything. You want the buffet experience at your table. When we went back, we were like,
Starting point is 00:34:27 oh, we gotta pick like two main course things. And it just wasn't the same, you know? It was good, but it wasn't the same. I mean, I was trying to think of other, I mean, we've had the privilege of traveling to so many places. I was asking Christy to help me remember. And she was like, when we went to Australia,
Starting point is 00:34:45 you went up to Brisbane, you and Rhett and Jenna went up there for the one tour stop. And I was like, yes, we walked. We basically walked all the way across downtown Brisbane because we only had a few hours. So we kind of did our own walking tour and we found ourselves at this, do you remember what it was? It was called like cigar pizza.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember how good that pizza was? It had the logo that the guys look like me and you. Yes, right. Yeah. And it was, I mean, it was, we were eating at a weird time so there wasn't anybody there, but the- There were so many good meals in Australia though.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Why would that, why did they call it, the pizza was like- It was rolled up. It was rolled up like a cigar and they had these like strange combinations. It was a glorified pizza roll, but it was really, really good. Because one of the things that comes to mind for me is, first of all, almost every meal while in Australia was good.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I do remember that, was it Mr. Wong's? Is that the name of the place that was in Sydney that was a giant Chinese restaurant? And we sat at that giant table. Here's why that meal wasn't as good as it could have been. Because we got in a fight. Well, because kids were there. Oh, you don't remember the fight?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Well, we got into a fight, yeah, because kids were there. Oh, you don't remember the fight? Well, we got into a fight, yeah, because Christy thought that I was trying to order for everybody when I was just really, I was just like throwing out suggestions and Christy felt controlled, I think, at that moment. Yeah, I can see her side because I think I was on it. That's hilarious though. Because you were so excited and you were like,
Starting point is 00:36:24 let's order this and let's order this. And we were just talking about it. Yeah, it wasn't like, as opposed to what you want. You were ordering with the waitress. You were talking about, I was like, this looks good. Let's get this and let's get this. This looks good.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And you're, and Christy was like, well, hold on a second. I haven't even read the whole menu. And I was like, okay. But, and it should have just been everything that's mentioned we're gonna order. But there was some- That was my- Expectation. My instinct was- That it was like-
Starting point is 00:36:52 Why don't we get every single thing that everyone wants? Right, but that wasn't- So I started naming things. And I knew that's what was happening because, you know, we go, you and I go to places all the time. But then it was, yeah, if the interpretation was, oh, he's ordering for the table. So I understand the misconception.
Starting point is 00:37:12 That's not why it wasn't a good meal. Then the kids really screwed it up. The kids, they have to be taken into account. It's like, well, I don't know if I like Dunk. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, listen, we're here. We're at one of the best Chinese restaurants in the world by reputation. Get the Peking duck and quit complaining about it.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I don't think I ate any of that, but I didn't complain about it. Right, but it's just like, you know, I think that a general openness of every single member of the party is, if you're gonna go to a place like that, I think that's general openness of every single member of the party is, if you're gonna go to a place like that, I think that's the key to enjoyment. Even at Dishoom.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Children are just not open to experience. They had a big lampshade, and I didn't really love that, but I tried it, and then I was like, okay, that one thing's not for me. Right. Okay, well, let's move on. Where else did we go? I do remember when we went to Austin with Stevie
Starting point is 00:38:08 and we ordered that huge tomahawk- That was at the- Cut of steak. Wasn't that in Austin? Yeah, it was a- It's like a huge beef rib. It was a Japanese meets Texas food. So it was all in the style of Japanese traditional food, but done with the meats and the sides
Starting point is 00:38:30 that you typically would enjoy in Texas. So the fusion restaurant that there was a lot of buzz about, I can't remember the name of it, but it was really, really good. And I remember talking to, the trick that we had was you make friends with the waitress or waiter, waitress in this case. And like, we were just, we were like, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:48 we're just visiting, we heard about this place, we're excited about it. What, you know, tell us what is exciting. And then she went through some things and then she was like, but, and she could tell from our vibe, it was like, but you need to get this thing. She like really sold us on this like special huge tomahawk.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I mean, it looked like a piece of a dinosaur coming out. It's about the experience. Listen, and that's why I say, I know, listen, if you go, and I'm just saying, cause I know that there's people who are resistant to trying new things, but like when you go to a place that's known for a thing, even if it's a thing that you don't think you would like,
Starting point is 00:39:29 or you don't traditionally like, free yourself towards the experience, open yourself towards the experience of that new thing, because I think it will make your life better. And I will guarantee you, it will make everyone else's lives who you're with better. Just, you know. You know, I mean, I understand.
Starting point is 00:39:55 That's not directed at you. It's not directed at you. It seems like it could have been directed at me. But okay. No, because you try things. I do understand that like when you're having a meal and this should be fun, it's like, you wanna keep negativity.
Starting point is 00:40:14 If you have a negative thought, keep that to yourself. You know, if you're ordering things to share or whatever, because I love sharing things. I love trying different things. I don't like committing to a plate. Like it's interesting that I'm picky, but I also like to share because I don't like committing to a plate. Like it's interesting that I'm picky, but I also like to share because I don't like to commit. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And I've been rewarded enough to just give more things to go. So it's happened over time. I don't think shaming helps, but. I'm not, did that, you may have taken it as a shaming. I'm saying open yourself up to the experience because you will have a better time. Don't deprive yourself of that experience.
Starting point is 00:40:51 That's my main point. I agree with that. Truly Mythical know me, Twitter handle Dink Neil. Okay. One year visiting family in China, I was around 10 years old. We were sat down for a meal entirely made up of plates of bugs and served warm liquidated sweet corn
Starting point is 00:41:12 as a beverage. I'm a picky eater. Picky. I'm a picky eater. I'm a pickier eater than Link is, so you can imagine my 10 year old self was not having it. Hashtag ear biscuits. Yeah, again, as a kid, it's just like there's-
Starting point is 00:41:27 I bet it wasn't a plate of bugs. I mean, but I bet in their memory, I could see how as a 10 year old, it like comes across that way. But I mean, if there's bugs on the plate, there's bugs on the plate. I mean, there's not much mistake in that. Well, and the thing is is that,
Starting point is 00:41:46 we've eaten so many weird things, but it has never, hardly ever been in the context of a restaurant or a meal with somebody, it's on the show. And we've eaten lots of bugs and testicles and hot peppers and all that stuff, and while those are memorable experiences, some of them more than others, like the hot peppers, it's kind of hard to forget.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Right. You don't get the same, it's memorable for you as a viewer, I think, but for us, all the weird things that we've eaten kind of just all, it all blends together. There's very few moments that stick out in my mind. It was like when you ate that live beetle, I think, was that the episode that Shay Mitchell
Starting point is 00:42:30 was there for? Yeah. And we also were like, we didn't know what was gonna happen. And all of a sudden you're eating this live beetle, I'm like, well, A, people are gonna be mad about this because you're eating a live animal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And we probably shouldn't be doing that. And B, like, okay, this is especially nasty. So I would assume that that stands out in your mind. I wonder if like Guy Fieri remembers all of the diners drive-ins and what is it? Dunkin' Donuts, whatever the other thing is. Here's why I don't think he does. And this is- Remembers all of the places.
Starting point is 00:43:02 This is why we don't- There's no way, right? Because your attention is divided. When you are primarily in an entertainment mode, like when we eat something on GMM, we're not eating it to experience it and enjoy it. I mean, I try to be as present as possible, but really we're trying to be a conduit for entertainment. And we're trying to, you know, the camera's there.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Even think about when we did the rib tour in Memphis to find like the best ribs and we were- You're thinking about the final product. You're not just thinking about the ribs in the moment. Yeah. I mean, I think we made the right call about who had the best ribs. I remember by the end,
Starting point is 00:43:37 there's also this thing about like eating on camera. You have to eat on camera when it's time to eat on camera. And it doesn't matter if you're hungry or not. Like we've actually, you know, we've looked, we finished recording episodes and saying, you know what? This was scheduled at a difficult time in the day for us to record because we weren't hungry. Like there's certain Will It episodes,
Starting point is 00:44:02 or I mean, in any of those episodes, it's like we try to manage our stomachs so that we can actually be hungry. So it's easier to actually be enthusiastic about things that are amazing. And by the time we got to that third, what was it called? Central Barbecue, which is the best one,
Starting point is 00:44:23 we were hungry again. but I think we gave- We were not as hungry as- I think we gave short shrift to rendezvous. We weren't as hungry as the owner assumed we were because that's actually a pretty memorable meal because we sat down and we filmed the episode, which involved eating the ribs and eating some beans. And then we were like, well,
Starting point is 00:44:43 we gotta go back to wherever we were going. But we've got a little time and he was like, well, I want you guys to taste everything. And so it was me and you and Stevie, Casey, Ben, is that who the crew was? And Nick came. Nick was there and I think there was at least two more people.
Starting point is 00:45:03 So we sit down at this table and the guy who runs Central Barbecue, I can't remember his first name now, brings every single thing that they serve, every single drink that they serve. So like he brought us a bunch of beer. I was like, oh God, you got to drink a beer. And he brought us multiple desserts.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And- I ain't complaining, but we had to take a lot to go because, I mean, the crew was hungry and I wanted to try everything, but I just couldn't do it anymore. It was very difficult. It was memorable. And this is coming from a guy who can eat until he thinks he's gonna faint. There was a series of responses that I did not expect.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah, this was, it totally makes sense, but I did not know it was gonna happen. So let's alternate these. There's four of them. Okay. Sarah Holcomb says, for moms, it is whatever is given to you after delivery. After my first delivery, I was given a plain turkey sandwich,
Starting point is 00:46:06 applesauce and graham crackers and peanut butter because it was late. It was the best sandwich ever after eating nothing for 12 hours and delivering a baby.'" Georgina Gio Georgie said, "'Post 18 hours of labor and giving birth after the epidural wore off. The best chicken fried steak,
Starting point is 00:46:25 country potatoes and pancakes of my life. Stephanie, Acidic Yarn 118. I had a bowl of chili and a hamburger after my daughter was born and was allowed to eat again. It had been a minute. I had a C-section. From the hospital, that was in parentheses, to eat again from the hospital cafeteria. was in parentheses, to eat again, from the hospital cafeteria.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Best burger of my life. I've yet to have a meal hit me that hard. And finally, Amanda Martinson. For me, it was the first meal after giving birth to my daughter, labored for 26 freaking hours after the dust settled. Is that, yeah, I don't remember there being a lot of dust. It depends on how long the baby is in utero. After the dust settled, is that, yeah, I don't remember there being a lot of dust. It depends on how long the baby is in utero.
Starting point is 00:47:07 After the dust settled, my husband went and grabbed my favorite food from Whataburger for me. That was the best meal of my life and my first meal as a parent. I think that might be what it takes to make Whataburger good is- I like Whataburger.
Starting point is 00:47:23 The Texas joint? Oh no, I'm sorry. We've talked so much crap about that. I was thinking about Fatburger. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like Whataburger. We don't like Whataburger, sorry, Texas. I mean, but they're like-
Starting point is 00:47:32 Texas, you've got all kinds of great things, we've established this, but Whataburger is not the thing you should be leading with. And I mean, they're talking about like hospital cafeteria food being amazing, which, yeah, if you've been through that ordeal, and you know, Christy had three C-sections. I just, I don't recall. I'll have to ask her if she was starving.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I think that I definitely remember when we found out we were pregnant with Lily and gonna be parents, first of all, we both took a nap. But then when we started going in for like her checkups and her ultrasounds and stuff, we would always eat at Chick-fil-A because it was the only Chick-fil-A that we had access to up in Cary was next to that. So like that became our thing.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Oh, we get to go to Chick-fil-A. And that was, those are memorable meals for us when it's like, you know, just preparing to be a parent and eating some fried chicken with extra pickles in her case. But I don't remember after pregnancy. I don't recall. It does make me think of,
Starting point is 00:48:47 I definitely can understand if you've gone through this ordeal and you haven't eaten, it does trigger the memory, which is basically not related at all of like in college, when we would fast. Do you remember this? And not for health reasons, this was like for spiritual reasons.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Spiritual reasons, yeah. That we would, you know, they would say, you know what, take a day or a few days to fast. There was at least one time where I said, I'm gonna take a seven day fast. Well, when you tell a bunch of zealous college students about a spiritual practice like fasting and challenge them to do it,
Starting point is 00:49:33 I mean, our personality is that, well, okay, well, I'm gonna do this for longer than you asked me to do it. Yeah. Right? So yeah, I do remember going for a week in college, but I think it ended up being five days. I don't think it was seven days. I remember being very irritable,
Starting point is 00:49:49 but I do remember thinking, by the way, I think there were benefits to it, but I don't, in terms of, it kind of puts things in perspective. It definitely puts your relationship with food in perspective. Yeah, I think it's, I things in perspective. It definitely puts your relationship with food in perspective I think it's, I mean, yeah. Or just your dependency,
Starting point is 00:50:11 like your actual dependency on food to survive. And you can run that through a spiritual grid and gain some meaning from it. I think there are many other things that you can, you can benefit from spiritually that I don't think that I did in terms of making it, as you say, a spiritual practice. You know, it was more of an experiment for me, I think, where I just got very angry and irritable
Starting point is 00:50:39 that I was doing it. But I do remember, because sometimes we would do it at the same time, we'd do it with our roommates and like we would get fixated on, okay, this is when we're all gonna break our fast. It's gonna be at six o'clock on Friday night and we're gonna go to the Golden Corral.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Which by the way, if you fast on a regular basis, you know, this isn't how you break your fast. You're supposed to, especially the longer the fast, the more gentle the break, right? So- You gotta ease back into it. Golden Corral is not that. Golden Corral does not ease you in, ease is not a word associated with Golden Corral.
Starting point is 00:51:11 The only thing easy about Golden Corral is how easy- You can fill up another plate. Exactly. Do you remember that though? Cause they had a steak and shrimp night at Golden Corral. And maybe it wasn't Friday, but we would time our fast to end on that night. I remember this now that you're talking about it.
Starting point is 00:51:29 So we could go eat a bunch of like- Oddly cut steaks. Yeah, it's like, I don't know what part of the cow that is. In a buffet bin. Seems like it was rejected from what you could get at the grocery store. I don't recall having like any difficulties from that decision.
Starting point is 00:51:44 It was just glorious. No, it was back when your body could take anything. You could completely punish yourself and there was no consequence. But I mean, the thing is, is that now, I mean, I'm not saying that there's not still spiritual reasons to fast, but like since then, they've come out with all this research
Starting point is 00:52:02 about how beneficial fasting is in general, just for health. I mean, it's the whole intermittent fasting thing, all this crazy stuff that happens to your body when you fast and like the cell rebirth and how it cuts down on inflammation and all this stuff. It's one of the most beneficial things that you can do for longevity. But last time I did it, I hurt my back.
Starting point is 00:52:26 And I think they're connected, but I won't even go into why that's the case. Long story. But it has to do about cell regrowth and people with disc issues. And there is some research that suggests that the renewal process can actually screw something up in your back. And that happened to me last time I tried to do a day,
Starting point is 00:52:40 a one day fast. So I don't know if I'm gonna do it anymore. Stana US said, the first meal I ever made in my first apartment on my own was amazing. I made a grilled cheese sandwich with white bread, Velveeta cheese and butter. I opened a jar of pickles and sat on the floor in front of my tiny TV.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Best grilled cheese of my life. Yeah, so like meals to commemorate an occasion, especially the, you know, when we moved in the creative house, we made the vlog about going to Wienerschnitzel and then coming back, because there is something about that first meal. I can picture my first meal in the houses that I lived in.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Do any of those stand out for you? No, I can't. I mean, the only thing, this made me think about the, when I started cooking for myself, when I moved into the apartment that I lived in after you got married and I got that new apartment with some guys. And because when we all lived together, when me and you and Greg and Tim, we would cook,
Starting point is 00:53:53 we've talked about this many times, like a hamburger helper and we would split it four ways. Those are some memorable meals. Yeah. Like literally it would be the whole skillet which is hamburger helper. By the way, for like 19 year old dudes, this is not enough food.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I mean, half a hamburger. I could easily have eaten a whole hamburger helper by myself. And you should have eaten at least a half. That's why it was so skinny. But we eat each day a quarter and we would cut it like a pie and then give each person. Well, the one that we cut as a pie
Starting point is 00:54:21 was the one that was supposed to congeal. Hamburger helper has all kinds of different like form factors and one of them is the one that congeals into like a disc. Yeah. And the other ones are just like a pasta and meat together. I specifically remember that one. I don't remember what it was called,
Starting point is 00:54:38 but we could cut it into fourths and you got this just fourth of a pan. Yeah. And I was still so hungry after we were done with it. So I remember that, but I also remember when I started cooking for myself in my other apartment, I had, I don't know, I just have a tendency to just jump into things with no expertise
Starting point is 00:54:57 or no point of reference for it. And this is before the internet, so I definitely, my mom never taught me how to cook, I never asked. So I remember I had this thing where I would take chicken and cut it up, and take onions and cut it up, peppers and cut it up, and like saute it together, and then pour barbecue sauce into the pan. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:23 And make like a barbecue sauce and chicken, onion and pepper soup and then put it over pasta. Enough barbecue sauce to make a soup? Yeah, and then put it over pasta. Oh God, that sounds nasty. Yeah, it is, I'm sure it is. I mean, it tasted good.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Over noodles, huh? And I made this meal for Jessie. The first time she came to my apartment. She seemed to like it. So I remember those very misguided, not following a recipe, not having any idea what I was doing meals. Here's a weird one to end on, Pigeon, Tante Pigeon.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Most memorable meal, an edible painting together with a few other people. What? A famous Dutch cook combined all kinds of different tastes and structures in the form of a large painting. After she made it, we all together had to scrape with special crisps, et cetera, the painting empty. This is a phenomenal idea.
Starting point is 00:56:29 It doesn't sound like it would be satisfying to taste. I don't think it's, yeah, I don't think this is about that. I hope not. I think it's, I mean, and maybe it was good. It depends on if it was like a bean dip, it might be good. Like if it was like a seven layer bean dip and you had nachos, it might be good. Like if it was like a seven layer bean dip and you had nachos, it would be good. But I think this is about common experience
Starting point is 00:56:50 and kind of like working together and doing this meal in this weird way. This reminds me of, and I think I talked about it on something, but a few years ago, Jesse and I, for a Valentine's day or something, we went to, I told you about this, went to this art installation at this museum.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah, yeah. And they had curated this 12 course meal that corresponded to the specific art that was in this installation. So they would like draw your attention to a piece of modern art of some kind. And then you would eat it. And then you would eat the meal that corresponded to it.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Now, it was, and this is difficult for me because I tend to be, you know, a little too linear in my thinking sometimes. And so it's difficult for me to just let my guard down and just, I'm actually better at it than I was just a few years ago, but let my guard down and be like, this is crazy and that's the kind of the point.
Starting point is 00:57:46 This is totally subjective. What does this piece of food actually have to do with this painting and the connections that are being made? Nothing, right? It's crazy. And there was also the meal where the chef had this tendency to take, there would be some weird sort of meal, taste of something, because it's 12 courses.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And then there would be a hardened disc of a certain material, certain ingredient that was complimentary to this thing. And it would like have this disc on top and you would break it with a spoon and it would like break over and then you would eat it. And so there was like this sort of like deconstruction thing happening with your food.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And also the lighting was changing and they were projecting art onto the ceiling. And you were also sitting at one very long table with everyone else who had paid for this experience. And you were supposed to like bring your own drink. This is the one where you had to run get the, yeah, you told us where you had to run get the- Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And then you would like get to know people. The wine or something. Because it was so different and weird, it just became, it's a meal I'll never forget. But again, is it the taste of the food that I remember? No, it's the presentation. It's the experience and the way that somebody decided to make it happen.
Starting point is 00:59:06 So I don't imagine this painting tasted great, but, and so if you go into the experience thinking that like, man, I'm, because sometimes you go into experience and you're like, I'm really hungry. Like sometimes you're going to, it's like a party or something like that. And you're like, man, I'm hungry and I haven't eaten dinner. I hope they satisfy me, you know?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Will there be meatballs? And if you don't get dinner, I hope they satisfy me. You know? Will there be meatballs? And if you don't get satisfied, you get mad. So maybe if you're gonna do an experiential meal like this, you should like, you know, eat a grilled cheese sandwich before you go. Or have one in your pocket. Right, just be ready for reinforcement so you won't judge the experience too much.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Well, that was fun going down memory lane. Well, I have one last thing I have to tell. Yes, you didn't tell that one. This is a famous story, I probably told it before, but it remains to this day. Your most memorable meal. To be one of the most memorable meals of my life. And that was when Mama Nell came over for Christmas dinner. Now, we had gone to Mama Nell's house for Christmas
Starting point is 01:00:08 in Georgia, what felt like many times growing up, I don't know. And we had always gone to her house and she very rarely came to visit us where we were at. Like we would go down to Georgia to see her. Yeah. But then after Pop died, she came up and was living in a retirement home in North Carolina
Starting point is 01:00:32 that was just like a mile down the street from us. And so she would come over quite often in those last few years. And I remember Christmas dinner and I'm like so excited. Like even as a kid, I mean, you know I'm this way now, but I was, which is so funny because my kids are not like this. As a kid, I got so excited about food.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I got so, I can never remember a point in my existence where I didn't get super amped up about a meal that somebody was about to serve me. And if it was like a significant meal, like Christmas dinner, I was like, I know mom's gonna make this, this, this, this, this. And I would think about it and get so amped up about it. And I would like eat so much food.
Starting point is 01:01:15 So I'm like just getting to the place where I'm really enjoying Christmas dinner. And again, this was towards the end of Mom and Elle's life. And she, I mean, she just, you know, she was very old at this time. She didn't participate much in the conversation and she also didn't eat very much. So they would make her a really small plate
Starting point is 01:01:40 and she was eating. And then all of a sudden, like, I mean, again, she's not participating in the conversation, but she definitely participated in getting all the attention on her when she just threw up on her plate. She just, and I'm just like sitting across from her and I just see it come out and land on all the,
Starting point is 01:01:59 it wasn't a lot of food on her plate, like I said, you know, I'm just like, it made me mad and it was selfish to get mad. Oh gosh. You know, I got mad at her because she screwed up my experience. She was choking on food and she- I don't think so. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:18 She's still mad. I don't think she was choking. I think she just was, you know, she was just old, man. She regurgitated. Yeah, she was just old and I feel bad to this day. And first of all, no one was like, oh, mama now! No one did that, everybody was helpful
Starting point is 01:02:32 and they were like, are you okay and everything? You couldn't keep, I thought you were gonna say, and I just went right back to eating. I'm pretty sure I did end up finishing eating, but it was never the same after that. It wasn't, huh? I mean, maybe next year, but like that meal, cause I had seen the ingredients that I was enjoying,
Starting point is 01:02:51 like come out of my grandmother and go onto the plate. And so it just changes everything. At least I didn't go on your plate. That would have been, yeah, I couldn't have taken that. Oh my gosh. Couldn't have taken that. It was across the way. And I don't think there was any splatter. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:03:07 So that was a memorable moment. Yeah, that's never happened to me, man. You can only hope. I got a recommendation for you if you're interested in it. It's my turn to give a rec. Now, everything's being delivered to us. We got a box problem at the house
Starting point is 01:03:25 and like after months and months of trying to break down boxes and get them into the recycling can. Yeah, it's in reveal. And my box cutter was falling apart. Hold on, so you don't, I've assigned this, I've assigned this to Locke. As in the past like two years, I'm like, Locke, you're on box duty.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I tried and they don't, I can't get them to do it how I want it done. You gotta let it go, man. I know. They don't do a good job. I didn't say he does a good job, but he doesn't. Well, if it doesn't fit, then it doesn't get taken away. If it doesn't fit, I'll go out and help.
Starting point is 01:04:01 If it doesn't fit, and the way to make it all fit, because there's so much, and again, I got one more person in my house than you do. Another box. A lot more boxes. It's like exponential. So I'm like, you know what? I bet you there is a newfangled update to the box cutter
Starting point is 01:04:17 that I could get excited about ordering and it would make it more of a joy. And of course I'm right. If you just search box cutter on Amazon, there's this company called Slice that's pushing this thing out. And it looks like the top of a cane, like the top of a shepherd's hook.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And that part can like hook on your pocket or it's an ergonomic handle that then you can push, you push out the blade like you would a normal thing. But then you hold it in a more leveraged position. Yeah. And it, you know, it goes right, like the handle itself goes against the box too. So it helps you keep it at the right angle.
Starting point is 01:04:57 And the blade is ceramic and rounded on the end and it won't cut you, which is great for me. Cut the box, not you. Yeah, it is a, I mean, it costs 19 bucks, but it is splendid. Hmm. I gotta recommend that you get a Slice Box Cutter, three position manual button with ceramic blade,
Starting point is 01:05:19 available at Amazon, 2,191 reviews. Can't cut yourself. Not a sponsor. Maybe they should be. Yeah, it won't, again, it's not a metal blade. It's ceramic. Doesn't rust and it doesn't cut you unless you're really, really dumb. I've not cut myself with it, so that's not an endorsement.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I don't know what is. Okay. I've enjoyed this thing. I order stuff just for the box, so I can cut it and break it down. That's probably not a good way to be. Slice! As a reminder, next week, we will start with our one year later deconstruction stories,
Starting point is 01:05:58 so stick around for that. Hashtag gear biscuits.

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