Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Ep. 5 Hannah Hart - Ear Biscuits

Episode Date: October 25, 2013

Hannah Hart, well-known for her weekly YouTube series, My Drunk Kitchen, joins Rhett & Link to discuss her unusual childhood with a Jehovah's Witness preacher as a father, how she came to terms with her sexuality, and why her fame has allowed her to give back to people in need. *NOTE: This conversation contains adult themes and language. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This, this, this, this is Mythical. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I'm Rhett. And I'm Link, thank you for joining us once again this week at the round table of dim lighting covered in an increasingly large number of signatures. Hannah Hart is the latest signature, she is our guest this week, the amazing Harto. Hannah Hart is the latest signature. She is our guest this week, the amazing Harto. She got into some really good stuff, great candid conversation.

Talked about the extraordinary circumstances of her birth and then the extraordinary life that she had growing up in a home with a dad that was a preacher and Jehovah's Witness situation. that it was a preacher and Jehovah's Witness situation. And then what it's like to having been open about her sexuality on her YouTube channel. Oh, yeah. What that was like. It's a good conversation. We got into everything that you want to get into with the Hannah Hartow. But these signatures that are populating the round table of dim lighting,

it made me think about how everyone has this decision that they make of how they're going to sign their name. And it made us think about another story that we've been wanting to tell you about signatures on our poster. First of all, we're selling a poster now. Am I going to turn this into a store opportunity? Well, you always push the merch.

Good Mythical Morning poster is now available on our DFTBA store site. All of these posters are signed. Previous to that, we were selling, and I think there's still a few. Yeah, there are still some Mythical Show posters that are signed. Limited edition Mythical Show. There will be no more of those ever printed. We signed them. Rhett and Link right there with our

silver sharpie and you can buy it. So anyway, we sold these and after they went, they got shipped out, after the first batch was shipped out, we got a letter. Not a letter, we got a message.

An email. I like to call them. When the letters come over the E, I call them emails. And Link, why don't you read this email? We won't tell you who it's from, but... I pulled up the email, and I'm going to read it verbatim from start to finish. Here we go. My son recently purchased a mythical show poster from DFTBA Records. He is 14 years old

and used his hard-earned money to make the purchase. He was very excited to be getting a poster, quote, SIGNED, in all capital letters, by both Rhett and Link, since he is a big fan of the Mythical Show on YouTube. Upon receipt of the poster, the first thing he noticed was that both Uh-oh. in exactly the same location on the poster, and the ampersand, quote, ampersand symbol sign was used between the names Rhett, ampersand, Link. Right. Why would two people use the ampersand sign when signing both their names? It also looks as if Rhett and Link, quote,

were written by a teenager. This is what he noticed, his 14-year-old son. I have a friend who does handwriting analysis for our local police department. He took a quick look at the poster and agreed that neither name was probably authentic and both were unquestionably written by the same hand. Unquestionably. He also agreed that anytime a, quote, celebrity autographs anything, unless they are Prince, Madonna, or Cher, they would probably use their last name as well. Hmm. Then he quotes from Wikipedia, quote,

Rhett and Link is the comedy, filmmaking, musical, and advertising duo of Rhett James McLaughlin and Charles Lincoln Link Neal. End quote. Both are 30-something guys. Neither is Madonna, Prince, or Cher. That's true. Hopefully. I'm thinking a last name is in order here. Okay.

Obviously, you can see where this is going. This is still his email. If your purpose is to rip off their target audience, teenage boys, then you are clearly successful, since most folks might not have picked up on the signatures and would be happy to have the poster. But if you were truly concerned about actually selling what you advertised, then I think reparations are in order. He will gladly return the pathetically signed poster for an authentic one. Thank you for your consideration in this matter. And then he gives his mailing address.

We will not give that or his name. Okay. Now, when I first read this email, I was a little upset. Because if you know us at all, if you've listened or watched anything that we've ever done, and you know a little bit about the kind of people we are, you probably know that this is not the kind of thing that we would do. We would not hire a teenager to sign our names

on a poster. But let me tell you, after signing 1,000 of these and then boxing them back up, taking them to your house and letting you unbox them and sign your name and the ampersand either around mine or before mine to anticipate where I'm going to write it with my own hand, and then you boxing it up

and we send it to DFTBA to ship them out. Maybe we should hire a teenager. It certainly seems like a good idea. Maybe we should outsource this whole thing. We should outsource the whole thing. Well, okay, so, for whatever reason, probably because my last name is McLaughlin, very early on, we've always signed Rhett and Link,

because that's who we are. Well, you know us as Rhett and Link. You don't call us Rhett McLaughlin and Link Neal. So we always sign our names Rhett and Link, and we always use the ampersand. And like Link said, if I sign it first, I do the ampersand. And if Link signs it first, he does the ampersand. And our signatures don't look like they've both been written by the same teenager.

Mine's in cursive and yours is in print, which is... So anyway... Who is this handwriting expert? Well, he should lose his job, first of all. So anyway, it was one of those situations where you're... I don't like being accused of things that make me, they're making me out to be something that I'm not. And the thing that really struck me is how positive, beyond a shadow of a thought, he had a belief, he had a perspective, and then every single thing about the world that he was observing in relation to this poster, in his mind, confirmed his suspicion that we were swindlers, that we were hiring a teenager to deceive his son and to get $20 out of his son's pocket. And, you know, it's not fun to be accused of something like that.

So what I did is I wrote what I'm going to confess was a pretty smart-ass response. Can I read part of it? I have it here. Okay, all right. Hello, first name of father who wrote the email.

Tell your son thanks for ordering a poster. Period. Return. That was your first paragraph for ordering a poster. Period. Return. That was your first paragraph. Second paragraph was much longer. We appreciate your desire

to protect your son against being taken advantage of, but we were frankly taken aback at your level of certainty that we have been fraudulent. We're sorry if you feel that our process

for signing things first names only with an ampersand is unacceptable, but that is the way we've always autographed things. I should just keep reading. Go ahead. with our, quote, half, then sealed the posters up and exchanged them so the other could sign his, quote, other half. We're also a bit concerned about the aptitude of your friend who specializes in handwriting analysis and worried that he might be causing your local police department to wrongfully convict someone

considering that our signatures are clearly different. Mine, Rhett's is in cursive while Link's is in print. We couldn't duplicate one another's signatures if we tried. But most importantly, we think it would be wise to be slow. You got a typo in your email. You said, we think it would be wise to be slow to be, oh, I'm sorry. I just can't read it right. Let me try this one more time.

But most importantly, we think it would be wise to be slow to be so accusatory in the future. Your absolute unquestioning perspective that we had attempted to scam our audience is more than a little insulting. I would hope that after watching our videos for any length of time, your son has learned that we are not the kind of guys who would ever consider doing something so insidious as selling fake sign posters. That being said, we would gladly ship you a poster signed with our full names, signed on the poster at a location of your choosing. Thanks again for your support of entertainment. Rhett, ampersand, link.

You signed the email. So then we sent him another poster, signed Rhett James McLaughlin and Charles Lincoln Link Neal III. So this guy and his son have the only poster ever that was signed in full names. All right, let's get to Hannah Hart. We had a great conversation, like I said. So let's delay no more. Give a few stats.

Yeah, you know her from youtube.com slash myharto, where she has just under 800,000 subscribers and is known best for her weekly show, My Drunk Kitchen. She's also the 2013 Streamy winner for Best Female Performance in a Comedy. And she is a nice woman, as you will find out in a second. She was also in our Christmas Sweats music video alongside Grace. Ladies and gentlemen, our convo with Hannah Hart. This week on Breathing Air air we discuss topics i like that that's my radio voice yeah exactly i have it on my open waters breathing air is what you want to call our podcast i think breathing air

is like uh that's a it's a pretty good radio voice thing to say no you did know you were on an email chain uh from a couple of weeks ago when we were trying to get you on the show. And, well, several weeks ago before we had named the show and our producer Stevie

was just being funny in her email and she said, yeah, we're calling it Oprah Raw. Remember that? Loved Oprah Raw. And then when we finally

changed it to Ear Biscuits via email, you expressed disappointment that it wasn't called Oprah Raw. And then when we finally changed it to Ear Biscuits via email, you expressed disappointment that it wasn't called Oprah Raw. I think that's natural, really. Is Oprah Raw taken or is that supposed to mean something? Sounds gross to me. I mean, if I'm going to dine on Oprah, I'd prefer her to be cooked. I think it meant unfiltered, real Oprah Raw. Yeah, Oprah Raw. It had nothing to do real Oprah. Raw. Yeah, Oprah. Raw. It had nothing to do with cannibalism.

No, no. Well, it's open to interpretation is what it seems to me. Here's what we'll do for you. Today's episode, this week's episode, it is still an Ear Biscuit, but there's a subtitle, and it is Oprah Raw. Oprah Raw Edition. Yeah. Can I add edition?

We can call it breathing air. I'm gonna go breathing air with Oprah Raw. But then people are gonna think that Oprah's gonna be here and I'm just saying she's not. I wanna manage expectations. Oprah, she's a big fan. She's a big fan of Ear Biscuits.

She's talked about it in O Magazine a number of times in the podcast section. I think she's just referring to putting a pair of nice warm biscuits on your ears. Okay, yeah. That happens. It's delicious. Now, Hannah, we met in person the first time

at a coffee shop. Second time we met was... Do you remember that? Yeah. What a funny way to meet, but we totally did. It was an arranged meeting. It was. It was like a blind date, really.

Yeah. And it went well. I thought so, yeah. What was that coffee shop? That was a... Yeah, it's a... Nice coffee shop. The coffee shop was Bricks and Scones.

Yes, I remember. Coffee Raw. Right, Bricks and Scones. Scone Biscuits. And I remember after, you know, we had a great conversation. Scone biscuits. And I remember after, you know, we had a great conversation. And I remember, you know, Link and I are on our way home and discussing people that we have just met, as we often do, because we're pretty much always together.

And we were both like, I like that Hannah Hart now. That Hannah Hart. She's a good person. That is a nice woman. You guys. Nice woman. Those were our words. That's really nice. She's a Nice woman. You guys. Nice woman. Those were our words. That's really nice. She's a nice woman. You know, it's so funny you say that because when I

went away, when I drove away from our first meeting. First impressions. First impressions, yeah. Give it to us straight. I was talking to myself, by myself, aloud as one is wont to do. And I said, you know, Hannah, that Rhett and Link, them guys were, yeah.

Because I was talking to myself and I had no visual or verbal feedback to go off of. You didn't say nice men. I was hoping you'd be like, those were nice men. What she just said that she said was, them guys. And then it kind of fizzled out. Yeah, sometimes those car talks get real weird. One's a brick and one's a scone. No, come on.

You got to give us the real first impression. Yeah. They can't be like, well, he's tall. He's not as tall. And Link has really great hair. They both got great hair. I was like, they were lovely. Good.

Definitely not from california yep because you guys had a a slower cadence yeah you guys uh you guys like to take your time with telling a story and it's it's delicious it's a great way to speak it's just a function of brain power yeah we're a little slow that's all it is still and you walk slowly charged. Yeah, but when we met actually, the show, the long form show. The mythical show. You guys were just thinking, you guys were just starting thinking about that. Yeah. Yeah.

That's over now. We've graffitied together. Yeah. But the second time that we met in person was the Christmas sweat shoot. I'm pretty sure that was our second meeting. Yeah, and that was wonderful. And that was a phenomenal shoot. I wear those Christmas sweats.

Grace told us. We heard about this. She told you? She was like, Hannah still wears them. I do. I'm disappointed you don't have them on. I mean, it's not that cool yet, I guess. I sleep in those exact sweatpants. Really? Yeah. I mean, like, I will... Is it a green pair? I was gonna say, I'll text you guys a picture later tonight.

And then I just stopped myself. Yeah, you did. Yeah. I'll text you a picture of me in my sweats. Yeah. Are they green or red? I have a picture of me in my sweats. Do you have both green and red still?

No, I just have the red small pants. Oh. Okay. We still have some more in a box. Yeah, I think we've got the green somewhere. That can be your parting gift. Oh, from here today. On Ear Biscuits.

Wow. Wow. It was a great shoot, though. Great video parting gift. Oh, from here today, on Ear Biscuits. Wow. Wow. It was a great shoot, though. Great video. Yeah. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. We should sequelize that thing. Got on Good Morning America.

I know. How funny is that, right? You know you've made it. They were like, who's that frumpy one? I'm like, it's me. Well, I think because the picture that we decided

to use as the thumbnail, you were wearing the extra large sweats, which were my sweats that actually fit me. Do you still wear those sweats? No, we keep them packaged. You know, I'd like to separate the costuming from the actual wardrobe. Oh, do you feel like your real life and your creative life bleed together far too often? It's really just a tax issue.

Oh. Wow, that's a fair point. My CPA told me that you can't wear those costumes. You gotta keep those sweats in a box. You can't write them off if you wear them. My CPA told me to do whatever I want and call everything an expense.

That's probably more fun. It is. You wear that shirt in a video? Expense it. Done. You can't do that. I know. Technically. You know that news anch a video? Expense it. Done. You can't do that. I know, technically. You know that news anchors can't even expense their suits. They have to buy their own suits? They have to buy their own suits.

Yeah, seriously. No way. Yeah, yeah. Crazy. Did you find that out? That's the only reason I'm not a news anchor. Wait, how'd you find out that information? My brother told me this, and how he knows, I don't know.

He has a business degree. He does have a business degree from a reputable institution that's like business 101 it's like the extra credit question on the first quiz of business 101 can a news anchor expense his suit right nope it sounds like um business really suits him oh wow all right so take us back take us back to your birth him. Oprah. Wow. All right. So take us back. That was good. Take us back to your birth. Give us the whole story. Where was it?

When was it? I was born November 2nd, 1986. And it was in the Bay Area of California on the West Coast of America on the planet Earth, which is the third planet in our solar system within the Milky Way. There's a show about that. Yeah. Well, there was one. Oh, yeah, Third Rock from the Sun.

There's also a song, a Joe Diffie song. Oh, goodness. I hope you don't know that song. I don't. It's a country western tune from the- Welcome to Earth, Third Rock from the Sun. Oprah rock. He also sang a song called Prop Me Up Beside the Jukebox When I Die.

So he wants to be like taxidermied he does wow it's an admiral thing admiral admirable admirable

yeah he's also in the military he wants to be dressed as a ship captain yeah and propped up next to his

it's a sergeant thing to want to do with your life bay area bay area yeah it's like san francisco-ish

yeah that's typically yeah it's in the bay area yeah it was great grew up in california um i went to school at berkeley Bay Area. Bay Area, yeah. This is like San Francisco-ish. Yeah. That's typically, yeah. It's in the Bay Area. Yeah, it was great. Grew up in California. I went to school at Berkeley.

I studied Japanese literature and English literature. You gotta move slower than that. We wanna talk about like kindergarten. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. This is what an ear biscuit is all about, you know. Yeah, you're like, how did, all of a sudden, we're like spinning, whew, you're in college. We're back here in the delivery room.

I'm so sorry. I should have explained. I came out of the womb and went to college. Oh, yeah. Okay. You were a prodigy. It's not for everyone, but it was for baby Hannah. No, I, let me think.

Okay, back to birth. Oh, I was born with a double nuchal cord. You guys know what that is? Oh, what? You guys have kids. Double nuchal cord. It's where the umbilical cord is wrapped twice around your neck. Oh, that was like an extra vocal cord.

So it's like every time you get pushed out, you're like, oh, God. So you could have died. Yeah, but so the doctor, ear biscuits, the doctor had to go in and cut the cord within my mother's body. Oh. And then I came out. So he took a pair of scissors inside of your mom. And cut the cord so I could get

born because I had like, you know, feet first, cord, neck, came out blue. Really? Yeah, but I'm a fighter. Slash, I don't know what baby Hannah was like. So extraordinary circumstances in your birth. So is that the type of thing that growing up, whenever something would happen, be it good or bad, that your mom or dad would hearken back to, you know, you're a miracle baby. Yep, miracle baby. They would say that?

Not so much. However, I would say that in my head to myself. I'm a miracle baby. I would just say I'm a miracle. Just wake up in the morning. I was born choking. I was born miracle baby. I would just say I'm a miracle. Just wake up in the morning. I was born choking. I was born choking around. Yuck, yuck, yuck. But your parents didn't say that

because they could say that. They could have, but I don't know. I don't think it really occurred to them. Okay, and that's fair. Yeah. What kind of house were you born into? Parents together? Siblings? Well, I was born what kind of house were you born into? Parents together, siblings?

Well, I was born into a, my parents were divorced before I was born. I had one older sister, have, you know, she's alive. And yeah, our mom raised us for a long while. And then she got remarried and had another baby. That's my baby sister, who I love very, very much. And, yeah, it was a good time.

So you grew up with just your mom and then a stepdad at some point. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. When did the stepdad come in? I guess I was like seven, thereabouts. And this is all in the Bay Area. Yeah, I never moved around. Born and raised. Born and raised in the Bay Area. Never moved I never moved around. Born and raised. Born and raised in the Bay Area.

Never moved around. Just kind of like hung out a lot. What did your mom do? Well, she worked nights at an audiovisual recording thing where she would transcribe news stories. So she would go in from like 10 p.m. to like 5 a.m. and do transcription services. So she would listen to audio. She would just watch news and then just write out everything they said. And then she would come home and be like, you'll never believe what happened.

I hate the news to this day. Why don't people tell good news? Like it's not relevant to just here there was like a stabbing in the park. Like what can we benefit from by knowing that? Well, if you hang on long enough, they do like something that's lighthearted towards the end. That's true. But you can also know not to go to that park.

That's true. You know, if you don't want to get stabbed, don't go to that park. Don't go to that park. Pick another park. But I just wish there was a website that was like

goodnews.com. Or like every news story was like... We have that reserved. You do. No, net. We have net reserved. Oh, not.org?

No, we don't. It might be.gov, actually.gov actually oh no it's not.gov since the shutdown oh that's right yeah oh yeah it can't go it can't even go online really okay so she would watch the so when you're watching the news and you see the closed captions happening they're happening live and someone like your mom is making that no no No, no, no. It's more like it was just a transcription service, you know, so it's like news organizations. I imagine, remember my understanding of this is a four-year-old's understanding. Like, I have no idea. But I believe what the service was was to give the studios transcriptions of the shows or the news for closed captioning purposes.

I mean, there's all types of reasons. Yeah. When we did our show on IFC, they had people who would, I can't remember what their positions were, but they would type out everything that was said, and then they could do a paper cut, meaning they could look at what was written down and they could say, edit it this way based,

oh, we need him to say this to manipulate the reality of the situation. That would happen a few times even on our show. Or we need to tell this story. We need someone to say this. They could search for it and find it instead of just scrubbing through a whole bunch of footage. So I would imagine there's, you know, it could save the world. You never know. There's intelligence in that kind of stuff.

I love that perspective. Now, is your mom still the Sheetzel type? No, no. She's unemployed. Well, because we could use somebody to do this for ear biscuits. Oh, yeah. Is what I was getting at. I mean, there's a lot of talking going on, and somebody needs to be writing it down.

Don't you think, Link? I mean, I'm looking. It never occurred to me. I remember being confused about my dad's job. We lived out here in California when I was a kid. And at the time, Pat Sajak was a weatherman. Before Wheel of Fortune, early 80s. He had to buy his own suits.

He expensed no suits. Interestingly enough, weatherman, free suits. Oh, yeah. It's a loophole. Don't say it. Meteorological loophole. Can't BS about something that important here. I got to call you out on that.

Okay, there you go. I remember distinctly watching Pat Sajak deliver the weather one day and being 100% convinced that it was my father. Well. What? He looks nothing like your dad. Did you feel it in your heart? I was like four years old and I remember thinking,

Mom, actually saying, Mom, Dad's on television. Dad's doing the weather. Did you feel it in your heart? I was like four years old and I remember thinking Mom! Actually saying, Mom, Dad's on television Dad's doing the weather And I was totally convinced that it was him But it was Pat Sajak But maybe Pat Sajak was your mom like He's not the father you have She got this really guilty look

Well that might explain a lot Yeah right, Pat Sajak Man I want to look at a picture of Pat Sajak so bad right now. He's a very short man, which makes this highly unlikely. Right, that's true. Okay, so, and your sister is how much younger than you? I have two sisters. I have an older one who's three years older than me, and a younger one who is 11 years younger than me.

Okay, so when you were a kid, it was you and your older sister and your mom. Three women against the world. So, I mean, tell us about that. Well, I really liked books a lot. I think that, like, you know, when you have a single mom, you don't really, like, got a lot to do. So, fortunately, though, the house was, like, filled with books. So, I would read a lot. I think that when you have a single mom, you don't really got a lot to do. Fortunately, though, the house was filled with books.

I would read a lot of books. Would you transcribe them? Would I transcribe? I'd be like, oh, I gotta do it. No, I'd just read them. She had a lot of Encyclopedia Britannicas. Do you remember when they would sell the full sets? We had those, definitely. You could buy the shelf with them. Yeah. Seriously.

Really? Yeah. To hold them? When you buy that many books, you gotta buy the shelf, too. You could buy the shelf with them. Yeah. Seriously. Really? Yeah. To hold them? When you buy that many books, you've got to buy the shelf, too. They would throw that in to sweeten the deal. No way. Well, if you knew how to negotiate. Oh. So you would read the encyclopedia, but your mom worked nice. Was she sleeping during the day?

Was it like... No. She was out, usually. She spent a lot of time out. But I would... And you were reading. Yeah, I like to read. I like to read. She was out usually. She spent a lot of time out. But I would... And you were reading. Yeah, I like to read. I like to read a lot.

Bookworm. Yep, bookworm. And I also like to take a lot of walks. I like to walk around the neighborhood. Just like makeup adventures. We're talking grade school, right? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, you know, just like that sort of thing. One time, me and my friends climbed to the roof of the elementary school, and we threw rocks at cars. You're kidding me. That were driving by, and only as an adult do I realize how truly dangerous and stupid that was. But at the time, I was like, this is fun. But no, no, that was bad. One time—

Well, hold on. We're going to have to stop you there, because we did exactly the same thing. In fact, we've told this story on Good Mythical Morning, but the last time I was spanked. Spanked. I think you were 13. I was 14. 14? Now listen, I wasn't spanked. I was spanked a lot as like a

young kid and then it became very intermittent. But then, 14? I was 14. You're a tall guy. How tall were you at 14? When I was 14, I're a tall guy. How tall were you at 14? When I was 14, I was six foot four. How did they say? And my dad was five nine. Remember, he looks like Pat Sajak.

It's convenient because all he had to do was tell you to bend over the back of the couch and he spanked you. And Link and I got caught throwing rocks at cars on top of the business school. Long story, we got caught by Leonard Johnson at the business school. That jerk. Who got caught by Leonard Johnson at the business school. That jerk.

Who told. Your brother about the suits later in life. He told the security, Campbell security about that, who told my dad. And then my dad called me in there. And he's like, so what'd you do today? He didn't even have you cut a switch or anything? Nope. Belt.

And he was like, no, this is, you know, we don't do this anymore, but I have no choice. And right there on the keystert. You know what? I never threw rocks at cars again. I think, for the record, he probably did have a choice. But

the belt. Oh, sorry, guys. Who is that? You can take that. That's fine. Might be Pat busy. Might be past Ajak. I mean, just telling him to be like, my son. Okay, so you, I mean, it's a common thing, apparently. Lots of kids do it, throw rocks at cars. I guess so. Everybody has to have that experience.

Yeah. But did you get punished? No. You didn't get spanked? No, not really. I felt guilty. I felt terrible. One of the rocks went through a window at the school.

One school started again. And remember, this was second grade, first or second grade, maybe. Oh, you weren't 14. No, no. But that's something I'll never forget. The thing you just told me. Did you get spanked? Did you get in trouble?

Yeah. I mean, but not for stuff like that. Just other things. You got spanked as a child, too. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, you know. So I remember though, I felt so bad about throwing the rock through the window or the rock hitting the window that when school started

everybody was like, oh my god, rock, window, la la. I remember going to my teacher and just being like, it was me. And she was like, no it wasn't. And I was like, it was me. I did it. I did it over the weekend. I lived down the block. Oh gosh. She was like, Hannah, please. It wasn't you. I did it over the weekend. I lived down the block. Oh, gosh. She was like, Hannah, please. Like, it wasn't you.

I appreciate you trying to cover for your friend. Wow. But I know it wasn't you. I just know you. And I was like, this is the worst feeling in the world. I mean, like, how do you go? Like, anyway, so. You confessed and.

It was rejected. That can't be you. It's not you. And then you're like, wait, who am I? So you had a reputation as being a good kid. Yeah. And you were a kid that would,

you felt guilty and you would confess something like that. Oh, I was a good, I had a good heart. So that characterized your youth. Yeah, probably. It wasn't one of rebellion

and testing the limits. Definitely not a rebellious child. I was definitely a, you know, I mean like I would like help out the janitor after school and stuff like I just wanted to like do stuff. I just like people. I really like I just really like being with people. You know? I think people are interesting.

Hmm. Did you help the janitor put the sawdust on the vomit? From kids? Puking? They did that all the time in our school. Yeah. Sawdust on the vomit? From kids puking? They did that all the time in our school. Yeah. Sawdust? That's stuff. Every other day,

there would be a pile of sawdust out there. It soaks it up. You were 14 when last time you puked and sawdust got used up. Mr. Leon. Mr. Leon was our janitor and he would sawdust all kinds of stuff, but especially vomit.

Why didn't he just clean it up? Poor Mr. Leon only had one hand. And we never helped him out. You make me feel bad. I never helped him clean up vomit. The guy had one hand. He had two hands when we started school. Remember, he, you remember what happened, don't you?

Are you serious? Yes. You don't know the story about Mr. Leon? Mr. Leon was- Cleaning up vomit? No. Mr. Leon was- Putting woods in the wood chipper.

He was changing the bulbs, the Putting woods in the wood chipper. He was changing the bulbs, the footlights on the school stage, in the auditorium. He was changing the footlights, and one broke, or one was hot, or something, and he got burned. It was a very mild thing. He did not get it checked out. It got infected, and they cut his hand off. This was like fifth grade, man, because we had a two-handed janitor, and then he became a one-handed janitor. And he never slowed down. By the way, that seems like a little rash. Well, you mean it was an overreaction? Yeah.

No, it was a bad infection. It was like he didn't get it. Kids, if you get an infection, get it taken care of. That's the moral of that story. And if you vomit, throw sawdust on it. You can find any. Well, it turns out when people tell you to air out a wound, don't. that's the moral of that story if you vomit throw sawdust on it you can find any also turns out

when people tell you to air out a wound don't keep it covered it'll heal faster that's right we've established this on that recently

yeah I told him I told him not to wear the bandaid and turns out he's right look at it now we're good to go yeah but aren't scars kinda cool like when stuff scars

you're like that's cool I like that's cool I don't see any scars on you I got I have one right here on my hand. I got one on my knee I got one in this ear In the ear. Mm-hmm. I just ran into a table and I was really little just like the corner of a table I was just so excited. I was also very excited as a kid. I'm still a very excited adult Um, and it just hit the corner. It was the first time I ever got stitches, and I totally fainted, 100%.

Well, just the thought of it makes me want to faint. Isn't that awful? Oh, yeah. An ear wound? An ear wound. On ear biscuits. Ear wounds? Yeah, blood on a biscuit.

I'm not interested in that. So give us some more formidable, formidable? I don't know what the right word is. Admirable. Formative, that's the word. Formative points in your life. We're talking like grade school, middle school, high school years. We're still pre-Berkeley here.

Oh, yeah. Well, my dad is a preacher, and we saw him. Your real dad or your stepdad? My real dad. Okay, so your mom and your dad, they divorced before you were born, and he's a preacher. What type of preacher are we talking jehovah's witness jehovah's witness wow so he doesn't celebrate birthdays

why not i don't i don't the idea i made a comment on a good mythical morning and then i got reprimanded by people who said i should know and so i school me well um from what i recall is the idea is that uh it's kind of like i always was very confused by this because i was like if we're god's creatures or as god's creatures isn't the celebration of a birth one of the most sacred things but john the baptist got his head cut off as a birthday present so the witnesses have taken that to be like celebration of birthdays is bad. I follow the logic there. I mean, you know, everybody's got their thing.

Just be good. Just be nice people. Practice whatever religion you want. Just be nice. So what was your relationship like with your dad? Did you have visitation growing up? What was the arrangement? Yeah, we had visitation.

Saw him, I guess, like four days. We saw him like four days a month and two weeks in summer. And he, I don't know, it was always like, it was so the opposite of the regular life because it was like, you know, get in dresses, get really clean, like go to, you know, like six church things a weekend now we're going door to door and then after we're done going door to door we're going to go to the church barbecue and then after we're done doing that we're going to go but it's actually not called the church it's called the kingdom hall and there's no windows there's a few windows yeah there's very small

exactly it's called the kingdom hall not a church and they're called meetings not services okay so this is i mean this being in a jehovah's Witness family, this is a, this is quite a commitment. There's a, there's a, this is a big part of your life. So I would assume that at that time, your, your mom was also a part of this, or was she just kind of saying, okay, well, your dad's doing this and we're kind of just going to kind of ride along. Yeah.

I mean, honestly, I mean, I was never a Jehovah's Witness. I mean, it was just like my dad. And so when he, so when he left, was your mom like, okay, we're not going to do that anymore. Let's not go to the Kingdom Hall anymore. Yeah, she is just,

you know, very theological. She believes in like, you know, history and like all religion and spirituality and Christianity. And she's got a lot

of different beliefs. Very wide variety. But, yeah, you know, I got no problem with Jehovah's witnesses you know every religion to each his own my only logic is like just be like nice to each other you know

just like i think that that's what really matters and that's what jesus would want what was your observation i mean did you go to a church with your mom what was your observation visiting your dad and i guess having a label of Jehovah's Witness and being an outsider to that, you not being a Jehovah's Witness, what was your observation there? And then growing up with your mom, how you were raised there? It just seemed so different, you know, it just seemed so, and obviously, you know, this has nothing to do with the religion at large, but it just felt very superficial. You know what I mean?

My dad and his stepmom were them, and it was very Stepford feeling when we would go and visit them. It was just a very interesting juxtaposition. They had everything, and they had food, and everything was clean, and yada, yada, yada, but it didn't feel like home, whereas like home felt like, you know, sure it wasn't perfect, but it was real, I guess in a weird way. Yeah. I mean, I guess, I mean, I grew up as a young kid. I didn't grow up with my dad, so I had visitation with my dad, I remember, every other weekend for a while. And I mean, religion wasn't that different between my mom and my dad. They both were church-going Christian people but I mean that I can certainly relate to that part

about even not feeling like oh this is going to see my dad it wasn't home it was a different thing when you're that young it's just something you just kind of plug into and and it would just be like I just remember feeling so bummed out if like a friend was having a birthday party one weekend or like there was an opportunity to like see a movie or like go on a school trip and like that opportunity became available but it was a dad weekend i was like no right you know which is like you know not no fault of his but i was always i mean i just never wanted to go and there was a lot of sounds like there was a lot of uh uh religious obligations every time you were there. We got to dress this way.

We got to go here. We got to do this. This is my job. We're waking up at like 5.30, 6 a.m. We're going to go to this thing. I'm like, ugh, brutal. They have a thing called the district convention, which is like 12 hours of service. And it happens like one or two weekends a year.

hours of service and it happens like one or two weekends a year and i remember if we had a dad visit on the district convention i was like i would lay awake for like weeks knowing that it was coming it was it's brutal imagine being a kid and sit still and just be preached at for 12 hours not be able i couldn't doodle i couldn't even write my own like stories i had to sit and literally just sit and listen and follow along in the book it was the most pain like just i it was hell it was so hard you just couldn't sit there there and snicker at each other like Link and I did in the balcony at our little church. No snickering. No falling asleep. So you know that feeling where you're so understimulated that you're literally just pulling your eyes up to stay awake?

No snickering. No falling asleep. No doing something else. No coloring. No drawing. No anything. Just listen. And it was, oh drawing, no anything. Just listen. And it was, oh.

And that was until what age? 17. Oh, really? Oh, okay. So you and your sister was a little bit older. Did that draw the two of you closer kind of? Oh, yeah. No, my big sister and I, you know, we're good.

We're solid. Yeah. It was just like, just, I just would never do that to any child. Like, I barely believe in education the way we do it. I'm like, kids are going to get curious about things at different times in their life. Like, maybe this kid wants to learn math right now. Great. Let them learn math. Later, they'll want to learn this, you know? Like, I think that we should really just like have structure but not control. It's like, okay, we're going gonna learn from 8 a.m to 3 p.m but

what you learn what you're curious about is entirely up to you you know but you are going to be like progressing in some way you know right that so did you have a reaction that even at that age you were like i'm gonna chuck this whole religious thing no i mean, like, you know, I think fortunately, like, my mom's opinion and openness, I guess, really saved my view of spirituality and view of people's relationships with God. You know, I think that if I only had the Jehovah's Witness perspective, I would 100% be like, forget that. But because I also had my mom who's like, well, Judaism believes this. Buddhism believes this. You know, let's watch history of the Bible. Like, oh, I got this great documentary from the library. Like, let's watch this. Like, just a very, like, rich multicultural experience with spirituality and God and what people believe.

So that made me feel connected to that. Was that something that was developing, like, you know, as you were a teenager, you're in high school and you're in this environment, was it just like, I just don't know about this, this stuff that we're doing that seems like rote, seems like obligation. Were you kind of beginning to think that this, there's got to be something other than this, or was it after he left and your, was your mom having these influences and these ideas all along? All along. I mean he never i have no recollection of them being in the same room you know okay so like they were yeah like i really don't have any memory of them being together but i like prayed every night as a kid and i still like i still take a moment before i eat you know and before i go to sleep to just be grateful because

i think that that's really important you know know? Like, those are still patterns that, like, I maintain. So what was high school like for you? High school was good. I got my first job, which I liked. Which was? I worked at an ice cream shop. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and then also—

You were a scooper and a sample giver? Mm-hmm, scooper, sample giver. I called everybody sweetie. Soft serve? No. Dip. Dip. Yeah. We're talking Baskin Robbins or what?

It was Preston's in Burlingame, California, which is a locally owned small business, family owned business, blah, blah, blah. And it had been there forever. And it was great. And I also worked at a video store. And that was great. Those are two classic jobs that you have. Classic teenage jobs, right?

I never had a classic job. What was your first teenage job? It was cleaning out underneath houses. Oof. I cleaned out underneath houses a little bit too. When the construction people get through building the house, when they get through, they have used the foundation of the house as a trash can.

Oh, really? And then they send a kid underneath there to clean it all out and to put plastic under there. And as I've already established, I'm a pretty big guy. I was already pretty big, and I'm going to houses worrying about snakes and cups with redneck tobacco juice in them. Oof. Yeah, that was my first job. I think that was my first. That was one of my high school jobs, yeah. That was gross. But I wasn't working with ice cream, that's for sure. Yeah, that was my first job. I think that was my first. That was one of my high school jobs, yeah.

That was gross. But I wasn't working with ice cream. That's for sure. Yeah. Unless it was expired and it was in a little container underneath the house. Oh, oh. I mowed grass. Yeah?

I loved it. I would go back to that right now in an instant. I'm not surprised by that, actually. I see you as somebody that would really enjoy just like the routine, order, and the structure. I love the order. Yeah. Yeah, just the keeping it level. Going through a pair of nose hair trimmers, making sure it's all good. Well, I had a riding lawnmower, Hannah. Well, I mean, you know. I remember that. I have a memory of you riding a riding lawnmower like down the road in Lillington, like from one

house to another. Is that true? Did that happen? Yeah, I would drive the lawnmower across Lillington, across major streets to go to houses that I had to mow because that was easier than putting it on a trailer and then driving. I didn't have my license. This is before lawnmower racing. Did you pick up a lot of chicks on your lawnmower?

The ladies around Lillington loved the guy with the lawnmower. I mean, they were easy to keep up with. The girls could just walk right next to you the whole time. That's a man with ambition. They could tell. Okay, so. Keep it level. Ice cream and video store.

Yeah, ice cream and video store. I raised my little sister a bunch. I was a yearbook. I did the yearbook and newspaper, like, publication stuff. Oh, yeah, okay. Mm-hmm. I thought I was going to be a journalist or a teacher with the majority of my life, but then I pursued translation.

So you were very plugged in, very involved. Not with the school. I mean, like, I was plugged in and involved into, like, you know, it was easy. Everybody knew me, and so it was easy to get in and get out of what I wanted. So it's like during journalism or doing yearbook, it was easy to, like, you know, it was easy. Everybody knew me. And so it was easy to get in and get out of what I wanted. So it's like during journalism or doing yearbook, it was easy. Like I could just walk into the room and be like, hi, I need this picture. Thanks guys. Bye. I mean, like it was easy to take care of and I'd leave school and then I would go work. So you thought you wanted to be a journalist at the time? I did or a teacher. And when you decided to go to Berkeley, was that

to pursue that career? Well, I went into Cal, it's actually really funny. I first didn't plan on going to college and then was encouraged by my guidance counselor to go to college. So I applied to a bunch of schools and Berkeley was like my reach school. They were like, well, you should apply to Berkeley, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I got rejected from every single school I applied to except for Berkeley who sent a letter and California public school or California public university, they don't do this, asking for two letters of recommendation. And it was a 13 essay question questionnaire. It was part of the equal opportunities program uh and i did it and then i got into berkeley and i got what was your equal opportunity well you're a white girl yeah but i

grew up in poverty and my mom is schizophrenic okay so you left that part out yeah your mom is schizophrenic yeah so we actually i got emancipated when I was like 15 and my little sister went into foster care. Wow. Yeah. So there was a good chunk of stuff that helped. You know, I had terrible grades, but great test results, terrible grades. Like, I mean, I wasn't going to do homework. My goodness.

So when you said a few minutes ago that you raised your little sister, you literally meant that because your mom was diagnosed. And I mean, can you tell us more about that how did that happen yeah I mean it's kind of like I want people like uh I think at some point in my life uh I'd like to speak you know at length about mental health stigma um with the illness like schizophrenia it's a psychosis so it's not like a sociopathic illness which is like kind of like you know people do bad things but like a psychotic illness you know as we describe people like oh that guy's psychotic he's not actually psychotic like that's a bad guy psychotic means like voices images hallucinations like multiple reality like that's psychotic you know um so. What was your question? You were raising, because your mom was struggling with this illness, you had to kind of step in and raise your sister who was 11 years younger.

What led up to that point? I mean, what, what does that mean exactly? Did she have to go get treatment somewhere? How did that, how did that work? You know, things would have been, I think things would have been really different if she had gotten treatment, but no, she just gets frantic. There's a lot of people who are unmedicated, mentally ill. So she was in the house.

She was working. She was there. But she wasn't able to function as mom. She wasn't able to do a lot of things. She wasn't able to do a lot of jobs. And she had, like, you know, she got a guy that came and like helped out with like bills and stuff but she just got worse as she got older you know so it went from like you're quirky and weird and everything seems weird but I guess that's cool like we're just

different and then as I got older and when Maggie was born as my little sister uh it was like wow we're not different like something's wrong you know and I remember being 11 and my mom telling my sister and I that she got pregnant and I remember being like you need to have an abortion because we can't have a child in this house like what are you gonna do with a baby like how are we like like how are we gonna have a baby then she had the baby and that was like the best thing that ever happened to me yeah Maggie would like totally save my life I 100% could become like that kid that like does drugs and runs away from home and like all that stuff. But Maggie was a smiling, loving baby. I mean, you guys have kids, you know, like all you have to do for a baby is love it.

And it's like loves you back. And then they get older and then, you know, more responsibilities. But like it was a good, pure thing. good pure thing you know so how did your mom's illness kind of manifest itself that I mean you you would see it manifest itself at a point where that's what you said when you found out she was pregnant and that brought you to a point where it your life without Maggie could have gone off the deep end is what you're saying yeah I mean I honestly I think that the point where everything changed was probably when I was like 15 or 16. And my sister, my older sister, I'd been like,

peace, I'm going to college. And then, you know, like I said, it's an illness that gets worse with age. I just... What was happening? You know, just crazy stuff. So anyway, I just didn't want Maggie. I just couldn't picture maggie being there alone and then like the closer i got to 18 it was like well either i'm just gonna like take her

or you know next time the cops come i'm not gonna lie and i'll be like actually things are terrible you know um so yeah so there's a point in which you kind of you saw the situation you saw what was happening and you were like i've got to sort of take control here. I'm going to emancipate myself, and I'm going to get my sister into foster care. A chance. Foster care, by the way, is a really fascinating system, and, like, there's a lot of, like, deeply flawed parts of it. Maggie was in the state foster care system for only, like, three weeks before. Maggie was in the state foster care system for only like three weeks before.

I had a good reputation, you know, in my hometown before a family volunteered to adopt her or take her in. And then later in life, they adopted her and she's been living there for the last, I don't know, how old am I? 26? How old was she at the time? Four. Wow. Yeah. So, yeah, but I mean, it's, you know, there's a lot of things that I want to do to help out help. That doesn't work because then people are like,

give me kids so I get checks. But like services like, you know, maybe they go and have their own counseling, you know, or they go and have their own job security training. You know, I mean, give these people skills and give them like their shot at life so that when they're fostering kids, it's almost like a shot for self-improvement. Right. So your experience as going through that has sort of given you a mission of sorts. Yeah, I hope so. I mean, is this something that now that you are the Hannah Hart that we all know and, you know, the YouTube celebrity Hannah Hart. Who loves to have makeup on her face.

That's right. Check out youtube.com slash hearto Halloween double twin tumblr tag. You're figuring out what to title it now. Yeah, I have no idea what to title it. You said different things

by the way. You did not I'm going to have like four title cards. Everything's going to be a freeze frame of a title card. Freeze frame title card.

You see this as because obviously part of your brand is sort of, you know, with your recent tour, a part of your brand is sort of giving back to people and bringing people together. And that's very evident. Like, I know that you've done a lot of your gatherings at like soup kitchens and volunteering for people. When did that become a part of your identity and your brand? Well, it didn't become a part of my identity

until I got security, I guess, you know? Like it was like the channel was doing well and I was successful and like I could support like my loved ones. And then I just felt like entertainment felt so hollow. So then it was like, wow, like actually I'm on the side of privilege now. Like I can give back.

And I guess that that's kind of what I try and say when we were doing the meetups and stuff like that. And arguably, by the way, like, I'm not at all perfect. Like, I don't go to a soup kitchen every week. Like, I'm not, you know, I try and, like, donate money. But, like, you know, I'm not 100% on the time all the time, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't want to make myself out to be that way because, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't want to make myself out to be that way because I'm human and blah, blah, blah. But I do think that one way of looking at donating charity, volunteer work, is to think that it's not a guilt, it's not an obligation,

but it's more like a privilege, like you're lucky. You're lucky enough to do that. You're able to give back. Yeah, not like you're able so you should. People push back against that so Not like you're able, so you should. People push back against that so hard, but more like, hey, if you're sitting at home depressed or if you're feeling like your life is empty or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, go outside for two hours, meet a bunch of strangers and sort cans or something. It'll make you feel good. So if you

need a selfish way to justify something, like a not guilt way, like a selfish way, like go do it because it's going to make you feel good. Well, when we found out that you were doing your meetups at, you know, soup kitchens and shelters and that kind of thing, we thought back to the fact that we had crossed the country and did a bunch of meetups at rest stops. I felt pretty lame. I felt like we broke up a lot of shady activity. Yeah, there you go. You guys brought a lot of positive energy into the rest stops. Not a lot of positive energy in a rest stop before us. It was really hard, though, to get people to let us into the—we went to food banks. We went to, like, two soup kitchens, but we went to a bunch of food banks because of the brand My Drunk Kitchen.

People pushed back against that so hard. They're like, you want to come here and get drunk? Yep. Yeah, they're like, so what do you—this My Drunk Kitchen girl? hard. They're like, you want to come here and get drunk? Yep. Yeah, they're like, so what do you, this My Drunk Kitchen girl, and like we have the support of some major charitable organizations helping us put in, get in touch

with good people, but I can't actually say their names or be like front-facing about their support because they as a public entity also can't be affiliated with My Drunk Kitchen. But I'm like, okay, sure, whatever. I get it. You know? Right. Yeah. So the work is still getting done. What, I was going to okay, sure, whatever. I get it, you know? Right.

Yeah. But the work is still getting done. I was going to ask, so how is Maggie? What's the update there? She's great. 16, sassy, has a great Tumblr. She's a feminist. She's great.

Maggie's great. She's lovely. Yeah, she's just definitely 16. Sassy pants. And what about your mom? Do you keep in touch? What happened there? Yeah, she was homeless for a while but then i was able to uh support her so i support her now i just she's got a place that she stays at and i try and see her when i can yeah and then you so going back to college, you went to Berkeley. Mm-hmm. Kind of, you made a decision that my life is going to continue on this trajectory.

Yeah. I mean, I really just like, I guess, honestly, before all this YouTube stuff, my number one focus was just job security, money, just trying to figure out how to like do it. So what were you thinking? Not having that growing up, yeah. What were you thinking in terms of major and things like that? Well, so I studied, I went in for communications. Like, you know, I was like, perfect, marketing, business, something like that. And then I ended up doing literature because I felt like if you go after a pure business degree or a pure marketing degree, you're not gaining anything to bring to the table.

So it seemed like literature or philosophy or history. Like you're actually learning things that you can put in your brain to like make different connections to create things, you know. So I studied literature and then I was like, well, that's not going to be enough. I should study an Asian language because Asian languages are big and also being an interpreter, being a translator, that's something that's not going to really disappear. So I studied Japanese, was able to like go to Japan. Like I have been super blessed. Like super, super

duper blessed. Alright, drop some Japanese science on us. Meaning language. Drop the science. That's a rap terminology for like, speak something awesome. Mizu wo nondeimasu. I'm drinking water. Ah, sodesu ne.

And it tastes good. Is that what you just said? I was translating. Say something else. Aji wa ii. It tastes good. Oh, yeah. And what else? Can you compliment me?

It's my party trick. Rinku-san wa totemo kakkoi da tomo. I said, you're like super cool, I think. No, you said my nipples were hard. They're not. I saw you looking down there. I was giving you a once over. You were looking at my nipples.

I was trying to find the nips. You know those Japanese people. Looking for damn nips. Yeah. So you became, so you mastered the Japanese language and did what? I couldn't say master. I mean like. You just sounded like.

Yeah, it sounded pretty awesome to me. Right now I'm like conversational at best. Is there a little Tokyo here in town? There is not, is there? There is a little Tokyo. It's very little. It's like a mall. Okay, so you don't go there and like,

hey, I got to practice, y'all. No, not really because it's like... I'm Japanese, of course. My job is to be a YouTuber now. Give us the transition. You want me to speak in YouTube? Subscribe to my channel, youtube.com slash heartdo. So how did you go from studying and then becoming a translator to being a YouTuber?

I was living in New York. I had moved from San Francisco to New York for the company I was working for. I was doing proofreading at that company, which is like white-collar mining. You know, it's like I would have one patent document here and one patent document here. This is English. This is the other language. And just have to kind of go through looking for errors, making sure every sentence was in. I mean, and it would even be for languages I didn't speak, like German.

Just make sure it says slot A into slot B. V-v-v-A into v-v-v-B. V-v-v-v. Or whatever. That's Japanese. Yeah, that's Japanese. That was German. No, that was German.

That's the German. Then, my older sister Naomi bought me that laptop, the MacBook. It was a white, whatever the generation,

the first white MacBook with a webcam. And now, now we're in story territory. This is the one everyone gets you to tell. Yep, this is it. I'm sure.

This is it. But I've got to hear it, so indulge us. For sure, for sure. Give us the white MacBook from my sister's tell. Yep, this is it. I'm sure. This is it. But I've got to hear it, so indulge us. For sure, for sure. Give us the white MacBook from my sister's story. Yep, my sister bought me this. Give us the juicy details that you don't give to the journalist. That's right.

Okay, all right, all right. So I was at her apartment cat sitting, and then I was video chatting with a friend back home because it was so cool to have video chat the year was 2011 and uh i don't know i used to you know my friend missed me i was like i miss when you would like get drunk and cook man and i was like dude i'll do that for you right now and she was like feeling low so then i was like i'll make you a video so i made her my drunk kitchen so you you ended the i chat and then you said—

Yeah, I said, hold on. So I, like, ended it, put up iMovie, hit, like, import from camera, and then just recorded, like, 20 minutes or 25 minutes. I'm a lightweight. I'm, like, a two-drink drunk, three-drink drunk to this day. And then chopped it up on iMovie and then put it up on YouTube and then sent it to Hannah Gilb, which is her name. And then—

You put it on YouTube, public, but why would anyone see it? Who cares? What's YouTube? You legitimately used YouTube for what I think it was intended for. It was, hey, I've got a video and I want you to see it. And this is how I'm going to do it.

Exactly. So I did that and I sent it to her and put know put it up on Facebook and all of her friends and all my friends everybody's like this is so funny share share share I mean it wasn't even that big of a quote-unquote viral video like it was like it like maybe got to like a couple hundred thousand or like 700,000 I actually don't have any idea um but I noticed like people were commenting I was like where's two? This is my new favorite show on YouTube. Where's episode two? Right. And I was like, what

are they talking about? So then I went into the YouTube K-hole. So you were not a YouTube consumer. Is that what you're saying? You didn't watch other YouTubers and aspire to be that. I know. YouTube was not that to you. The first time I heard of Epic Meal Time was in the comments of that video.

Okay. Somebody's like, this bitch is ripping off Epic Meal Time was in the comments of that video. Okay. Somebody's like, this bitch is ripping off Epic Meal Time. And I was like, Epic what what? Yeah. Really? Yeah.

They wanted episode two and then your response was? Like three weeks later on a random day I put up another one and then a month after. I mean, I have no idea

the periods of time in between. Certainly wasn't on a schedule. Certainly didn't. But if we go back on your channel my heart oh yeah it's all there it's all sort by date the first one is the first one yeah but I've changed the title added okay like you know annotations like stay tubed and like subscribe and like all that stuff now and it was originally called my drunk kitchen but now it's called My Drunk Kitchen, episode one, buttock your s***. Right. Yes.

And you did two more. I did, yeah, two. And then three was supposed to be the last one. And then I just don't know what compelled, I just didn't stop. I don't know. It just was fun. It was like such an outlet. And then, yeah, and then, you know, it's like money starts coming in because you're advertising. And then, so I quit my translation job and not because I was so lucrative, obviously not,

but then I just got rid of my apartment, cut all my expenses and couch surfed. So I could just use all my money for the things I needed to put it towards. And then I just lived on couches for a while until I moved to LA. Which was when? January 2012. Okay. Crazy. Crazy. So we're coming up on two years. Yeah. Here. Yeah. I just passed two years. March 2013 was the second year. Oh. Yeah. And the videos have like super improved. I now, I just shot a video recently with two cameras rolling.

Here in our studio. Putting Halloween paint on your face. And it turned out pretty well. I think it did. I think it did. My side of the face was excellent. I just really liked, I don't know,

it was more than, I was so pleased, you know? I feel like we should revisit the graffiti thing maybe. Oh, we could do that. Now, alright,

so let's get into this. Your sexuality is a big part of your brand. Yeah, like, talking about nipples. You are a, talking about homos. You are a heterosexual. No, like talking about nipples. You are a... Talking about homos.

You are a heterosexual. No, Link, I'm sorry. Am I getting the terminology wrong? I prefer the term girl kisser. Okay, girl kisser. I've heard that. I've seen that on a t-shirt. Do you sell that t-shirt? I should. You should think about it. I know.

Does District Live still sell things? Yeah, let's not talk about that. Okay, so there was a point at which you decided to be open about your sexuality on your channel. And I don't remember all the details of those videos, but I did watch those. And I remember you- People really got attached to the Coming Out Chapter 1 video. Right, yeah. So there were some chapters in this.

I still post chapters. When marriage passed, I put Coming Out Chapter 5 marriage. And I was like, marriage is about partnership were some chapters in this. I still post chapters. When marriage passed, I put coming out chapter five, marriage. And I was like, marriage is about partnership. It's about trust. And I just talked about my personal beliefs in marriage. And so I remember one of the things, maybe I'm paraphrasing here, but it was, you said something to the effect of, you know, I never really felt the need to come out.

And this isn't some big deal that I feel like I need to come out and like confess to you guys that I'm a lesbian. It was more like, I kind of feel like maybe I have a responsibility to do that. So I'll do it. You know, maybe it'll. Yeah. You remember when Anderson Cooper came out and everybody like it was, it's weird. I think it was on episode two of The Mole.

Yeah. You know, he hosted that, right? No way. Really? The reality show, competition show, The Mole. He was the host of that. Really? That was his first big gig.

I had no idea. He came out then. I've got to go back and look that up. But no one remembers it. His hair was black at the time. No. Is this all true? No.

Everything except his hair being black and him coming out on The Mole. And also the name of the show was not The Mole as a whole. And him coming out on The Mole. And also the name of the show was not The Mole as a whole. No, so as you remember when Anderson Cooper came out, you know, he was just like, guys, it's not like I was hiding it. It's just not like my job isn't to be like gay news guy. It's just news guy. You know what I mean?

And so like that's kind of the way I feel about it, you know, sexuality in general. It's changing a little bit as I feel more and more responsible for the LGBT community because it's, like, because I happen to be gay, I am inherently a role model since role models are so few and far between. So it's, like, out and, like, pride and stuff like that. But, like, in terms of my personality, I've never felt like, I mean, since coming to the crippling realization that I was gay, which was awful, by the way. Well, yeah, I want to go into that. Totally don't want to be gay. I almost want to put a thumbtack here. Not a pin. Yeah, and is it supposed to be a pin?

It could be a pushpin. A pushpin? Let's put a pushpin. An unfurled paperclip. Can you give us the whole backstory, just, I mean, in any way you want to, just in terms of the sexual backstory? Sexual. Because I do think that Confucianism is... That would be my first album.

You know, I am very interested about you coming to grips with being a role model and being someone who... But first, let's hear it. Let's hear the story. Right? Yeah. Yeah, totally. I was in college, sophomore year of college and i was in japanese class and this girl behind me uh you know were just like complimenting my jacket and i was like

oh yeah thanks and then we became like best friends she was straight or, you know, is straight. She's married, has a baby now. And I just realized, like, three weeks in, I was like, oh, my God. Like, I have, like, a crush on this girl. And, like, given also, by the way, like, I had boyfriends in high school. I always just attributed, you know, due to the circumstances of my life, I was like, I must really not be able to fall in love with people. Maybe that's, like, a weird emotional thing I've got, like, I must really not be able to fall in love with people. Maybe that's like a weird emotional thing I've got, like a block. I must not be able to fall in love because I've never fallen in love. And like, I don't really like any of my boyfriends.

I mean, they're great friends and they're really attractive guys. Like, what's wrong with me? What's wrong with me? And I was so, so, so, so confused. And obviously, homosexuality was not accepted in either of my households. Either of them. You know, not even a little bit. My dad's dad, my grandpa is gay or was gay and so i think that's another big thing that was like super like a big deal for my dad

did you always know that or did you find that out later i was like nine and then it was like a big deal but it was like he had like two wives and like six kids or five kids and he really you know tried to do it and then just finally he was like 65 and he's like guys wives and like six kids or five kids. And he really, you know, tried to do it. And then just finally he was like 65. And he's like, guys, I'm gay. I'm sorry. I'm just gay. I'm sorry.

I had two wives at once. I know. I tried twice. I tried so hard, you know. So anyway, I just always thought that I just couldn't fall in love, that sort of thing. And I actually remember spring of my freshman year. No. Yeah. of thing. And I actually remember spring of my freshman year, no, yeah, fall of my sophomore year praying, like, you know, and I would go to like Christian campus events and I was just, and I

remember praying, being like, let me fall in love. Like, let me find somebody to fall in love with and like have that experience and like feel love. And then sophomore year spring, so fall, I, you know, prayed for that and wanted to fall in love. And then sophomore year, the first class, first day of the first semester, in the spring, I met the girl. And then I— The girl that complimented your jacket. Yeah, and then we became super, super close friends. And then at that point, I had gay friends for the first time in my life and they're like you talk about this girl like constantly and it was always kind of a

joke like I'd always joke around I'm like yeah I'm secretly gay ha ha ha which is not uncommon for a lot of people who end up being gay um so anyway long story short I was kind of like maybe I have a crush on her you know what I'm a nip that's in the bud I'm just gonna's going to be like, ew, gross, get away from me forever. And I will never have to think this thought or have this feeling ever again. I told her and she was like, oh my God, I think I have a crush on you. This is crazy. So we went to a party and that night we made out. And I just remember thinking like when we were like making out, I remember being like, wow, this is so easy. And I'm gay. Yeah. But, you know, honestly, I had my entire first relationship, fell in love with the first time, whole thing, whole thing, got my heart broken, went back to dating guys immediately after because I was like, well, I'm not gay. It was just that one girl. I'm not gay.

I'm not gay. I'm not gay. It was a fluke. There's no way I'm gay. There's no way I'm gay. There's no way I'm gay. What was going through your mind that led to the denial? I really, really, really wanted a shot at a happy life. And I had been raised to believe that if I was gay, I could never have a happy, normal, healthy life.

So it's like the last thing I wanted coming through what i'd gone through in terms of was that you couldn't lead a normal life a happy life in terms of discrimination in terms of ostracism not in terms of what god thought of you it's like it's all of it i mean it's you know mainly just that like when you're raised in a homophobic household, you're really raised to believe that gay people are this other thing. And so I'm like, well, I can't be gay because I'm not an other thing. I'm me. I'm still 100% me. And so to have that thought, I just didn't want it to be true because I felt like if I was gay, it would somehow change who I am.

And then obviously, you know, years of self-reflection and coming out to very small groups and all that stuff, like it's not true. And that's the thing I kind of advocate the most to kids who live all across the country. Meeting these kids, I'm like, you don't have to be the biggest flaming homo in the whole world and still feel romantic love for the person you feel love for, you know? And I think that, like, it also got preached to me in a very, like, sexual way. Like, it was about sex. It's about sex, which is, of course, affiliated with sin and yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. But it's super not. It's about love.

I mean, you guys know what romantic love feels like. It doesn't feel like platonic love. It's a different feeling. People seem to ignore that. Like, sex is just sex, you know? I mean, it's great, but, you know, it's not love. I mean, so, I mean, you were wrestling with all this. You were trying, you had the girlfriend.

And then you go back to dating guys. You had an, she you had the girlfriend. And then you go back to dating guys. She was officially your girlfriend. So amongst your group of friends. Only need to know basis. Very, very, not at all. Even a little bit. Wasn't public. So then you go back, date a couple of other guys.

Didn't work. Doesn't work. Yeah, once you've fallen in love for the first time like you know like i just was like i'm like it was just so bad and you know i really tried now at this at this time when you're struggling through this stuff your relationship with your mom and dad respectively is these are not real functional relationships it's not like well she was emancipated. You're emancipated from your mom. Yeah, they're still in contact. I mean, like, you know, she was like my kid, you know?

But it's not this thing that... Is it this, okay, there's something that has sort of been ingrained in you personally that you're kind of struggling with, or is there this, like, well, I don't want to have to tell my parents about this. It doesn't seem like the parents thing would be that big of a deal,

because now you're... Nah, it's still, like... Beyond that. You know, seem like the parents thing would be that big of a deal because now you're beyond that. You know, I think that the sad truth is that regardless of how your parents were able to or were not able

to take care of you, there is something inherent that makes you want your parents' love and approval regardless. You want to please them. Yeah,

100%. You know, obviously my mom wasn't able to really comprehend it it was negative we don't talk about it and my dad you know

I told him when I was like 23 or you know just randomly I was like not randomly but I was like hey I just wanted to like give you a heads up not even that it was more like I'm going to tell you this now you know because we really don't have a relationship it was just like I felt like i should it's more for me i guess you know and then uh one of the things that he said was uh how you just just what did you say you were

just like bam well i immediately burst into tears just because i just felt and something and again it's really not about it's just like what they represent. You know what I mean? And it was really, really hard. And then it was interesting, though, because, you know, he used the word choice, which a lot of people use. He's like, if you're going to choose to do this, and I was like, dad, like, your dad's gay. Like, it's not my choice who I fall in love with. And he said, it is your choice, and he said, it is your choice whether or not to fall in love. So that's the sin.

Even if you're a homosexual, it's like, cool, you're gay. It's genetic. I get it. I accept that. Don't ever act on it. Don't ever fall in love with somebody. Just be single because that will make God happier. That's the choice in his mind.

And I was like, that's f***ed up. I mean, but you even had to have been crushing on some level. Obviously you expected it, but to hear it. Yeah. I mean, it's just kind of like, you know, it was, but at that point, like, I mean, our relationship is so not a factor in my life that at that point it was almost kind of a relief to hear him say something so ignorant because it was like, wow, that doesn't even hurt. You could package his stance in his own words and then say. It felt like watching any senator talk about how gay people don't deserve rights. You're just like, wow, you're one of those, you're one of those bad people.

So backing up just a little bit. So you, you, you date the guys and then what, what kind of, when did it become

just totally clear in your mind? Now, and the girl, your first girlfriend, you said that she's not gay. I don't know. I mean,

like it's hard, like I can't label anybody, but she definitely, you know, went back to the life that she felt more comfortable in. You know, I mean, but she definitely, you know, went back to the life that she felt more comfortable in, you know? I mean, it's like, it's unfortunately such a huge deal, but like, microscopically, like,

sitting on the couch arguing about dishes, making dinner, falling asleep, doing chores, like, life level, real life level, not a deal at all. doing chores, like life level, real life level, not a deal at all. But the way, I mean, some people like you get looked at on the street, like all that other stuff really bleeds into some people's hearts, the way they're perceived. And for me, I've never really been worried about the outside world. I'm like, outside world, I get it. I've always just really wanted the happy inside world. Like coming home and like having somebody be there being like, hey, you know, I get it. I've always just really wanted the happy inside world. Like coming home and like having somebody be there being like, hey, you know, I made dinner. FYI, also I did the laundry. It's like, that's all I've ever wanted my whole life. You know what I mean? Makes everything

worth it. But for some people who grew up with that, I think that having the, you know, paranoia of like, do you think the waitress is being rude to us because we're here together? That stuff, some people just can't get past. So how did you find that inner voice after going back to boyfriends? You were still in the fighting phase at this point. You know, just lots of like laying awake at night, feeling frustrated. You know, I would play all these games with myself, would be like walking down the street and see a guy and see a girl who I would, you know, be like, okay, let's say they're about regular attractive or just see a random guy and see a random girl. I'm like, quick, who do you want to have sex with?

You know, I'm like trying to force an answer to that and it's like, well, I don't want to have sex with either of these people. They're strangers. Which, by the way, we should develop that game show. Yeah, quick, who do you want to have sex with? Then the door's closed. It's like, oh, too late, I don't get to have sex at all! No! It's like guys are diving too late. I don't get to have sex at all. No.

It's like guys are diving under a door. Not kidding. There's a new show in England called The Sex Box where people go into a box, have sex, and then they come out and they're interviewed by a panel of sex experts. Sex experts? Yeah. Shut up. I'm not making this up.

They stole our idea before we had it. I think who you want to have sex with is a better idea, just between the three of us here. Or sex bots. It's an app now. Instead of sex box. Sex bots. Oh, are we brainstorming now?

I don't know. Let's just go back to your story. Yeah, so I'd like to do all these mind games, which a lot of people struggling with their identity, sexuality, yada, yada, do to try and trick yourself into an answer, trick yourself out of being gay, blah, blah, blah. And just this emotional maturity. It just comes with time. It comes with like life.

And, you know, I would get drunk at a party and end up accidentally making out with some girl. Or like I'd be at a party. I'd be like, OK, I'm here with this guy who I like. I'm just gonna sit and talk to this girl on this couch for like the whole time and then like he and I would leave the party and like go make out in his car and I would just be like, she was so great.

Hannah, shut up. You're making out with this guy in the car. Like focus, focus, you know, get back to the center. So eventually you just get tired of it and you just, you know, start to do the personal work to kind of undo the knots. What was that moment for you that eventually, I'm now tired of this? I couldn't pinpoint it.

Was it in college? Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's hard to say. It's a real amorphous journey now looking back at it. There was no other moment. The significant moments I remember were kissing her for the first time,

going back to dating guys and feeling like that wasn't working, and then just kind of step by step by step, just, you know, one day at a time, kind of accepting it, you know? Sometimes I would tell people, oh, yeah, I'm gay. Huh, visit stranger. I was never going to see you again. Well, I'm gay. Just, like, play with it.

See how it felt. Okay, so there wasn't this, like, okay, now is when I'm going to come out of the closet and just publicly identify myself. I was like, I want to try it on this person and see how they react. Yeah. I mean, there's plenty of people who I never, ever, ever, ever told. And if they watch YouTube or listen to Ear Biscuits, then now they know. Oh, they do. Oh, they do. They probably found out on YouTube before Ear Biscuits. I don't know. Ear Biscuits is like a really big deal. So, was there a lot of chatter

in the comments of your videos before you made a definitive announcement? Honestly, like, non-factor. Comedy's not about gay or straight. It's just about about comedy but people in comments have a have a way of doing that i mean like in my first video channels in my first video

people like she looks like justin bieber does she have but like you know it's always like does she have a boyfriend does she have a girlfriend she's hot she's not hot it's all the same stuff yeah you know um so yeah and then the coming out video, there was just a lot of, like, I had no idea. And I was like, really? But then I'm like, well, who's to say? You know, like, hipsters look gay, kind of. That's terrible. I shouldn't even say that.

You know? Yeah. I feel bad, though, when people talk to me about their coming out stories. I feel responsible, and I'm like, I'm sorry. It's awful. You know, I get letters from kids all the time being like, you know, I live in Alabama. I live in Nebraska. I will never, ever tell anybody.

I met a 30-year-old woman who recently, heterosexual, came out six weeks ago, married, whole thing. And I was like, wow. And then my instinct— And how did you—you met her in person? Yeah, just me a fan. You bump into people, you know? Okay. My instinct is still, because of the way I was like wow and then my instinct how did you you met her in person yeah just me a fan you bump into people you know okay my instinct is still because of the way I was raised are you sure because maybe you're not I mean like do you really want to do this is how is your family you know but yeah now I'm a role model for it so and I and I think this is interesting because there's obviously gay celebrities who people, the gay community may look at as we want you to speak on our behalf or, but it's so different. You know, take gay out for a second and just talk about the difference between a traditional celebrity and then a YouTube celebrity.

There's obviously a much stronger connection between your fan base. Totally. You know, a traditional celebrity isn't sitting around and reading their fan mail and feeling responsible for something. Yeah. But we know, you know, being in this position, it's just like your fans are your friends and there's a... I've been describing them lately as kind of your boss.

Right, yeah. You know what I mean? There's a sense of obligation because you're... They're your performance review. Exactly. Yeah. And then you throw in the fact that, okay, well, now you are in some senses a gay icon. And so now you've got people...

How are you dealing with that? People are confessing things to you. People are asking you questions. What happens? Yeah, what is it like? You say you're interacting with people. They confess their struggles with you. They write you letters.

I mean, that has to get heavy. It does, yeah. And I think that, like, honestly, when I'm talking with them or reacting, you know, I really try and like, I guess, choose faith instead of fear. Like try and be like the brave version of me and not let like my own, you know, fear compromise that and just be like, if they can see me as someone who's like brave and confident and comfortable and unabashed and all that good stuff, then like, and that's the person that they look up to. Like, then I am, then there must be some truth in that. Like, that is that part of me, regardless of like the internal whirlwind of me being like, oh my God,

oh my God, oh my God. But it's getting easier. I mean, when it first started. Oh my God, what? I mean, what is that internal whirlwind? It's just basically like, I just don't want anybody to like suffer, but it's like, you have to choose your suffering, right? What are you you're gonna do just be in the closet your whole life and be like semi-miserable or are you gonna go through that really kind of brutal kind of reaching for something richer but i think that's all life it's like do you choose comfort and stability or are you going to pursue your like deeper truth like and that's a choice people make now do, do you think that, do you respond individually to people or do you take into account the things that people are saying to you personally and then let it change your content? Because you're kind of speaking to everyone at the same time.

Like, if people keep asking me about this, maybe I should make a video to answer this question collectively or I'm going to respond to this person. I think that, you think that it varies. You guys know. There's no direct set, always 100% system. Sometimes a comment will hit home and you're like, I'm going to talk about this. Sometimes you'll notice a trend and you're like, I'm going to talk about this.

It's really just case by case. But I would imagine you're hearing horror stories of people growing up in the closet and not knowing kids, not knowing what to do with themselves. I mean, you're getting those type of letters, right? I guess I kind of feel like something good that's, you know, I'm getting those type of letters for a reason. And maybe that reason is I can show them like a happy life, you know? So it's like, I don't want, A, I don't want to get too preachy. B, it is only a portion of the audience.

And C, they've sent me that letter because of something already. You know what I mean? So it's like, maybe the way of being a role model is to continue to do things the way I do them. You know? Mm-hmm. But I do, yeah, I mean, there are videos that, there's there's like a list of videos that I really want to do but it's you know it's like heavier stuff

and it's you know it's you know the ones like the smaller videos that are more serious are always the ones you take more to heart you know what I mean

and like once you put stuff like that out there it's out there you know and it almost is like while you keep it close while you play it close you're like well

maybe someday and then once you put it out, you're like, well, maybe someday. And then once you put it out there, you're like, oh, I guess that really wasn't as big a deal as I thought. Right. What type of things, I mean, obviously you're not, you haven't made those videos yet. But what type of questions, maybe don't give us your answer as much as what are the questions. I mean, like these teens, like we represent like a strong teen audience right and like like i don't know if it's i think that there's a real problem with like i mean frankly i really want to do a video about self-harm like kind of just talking about it like taking away

like undemonizing it and just like speaking directly i mean like here are things you could do to like maybe help yourself out you know i had a girl show me, like, her cuts on her arm, and she told me, she was like, you help me stop doing this. And her mom was with her, and her mom was crying. She was like, you help me stop doing this, you know, stop doing this. So thank you. So do you, and we'll wrap up here in a second, but I think that, you know, you've got this responsibility. You've got people asking you these questions. Do you think at some point it changed from, I'm an entertainer,

to like, okay, now I'm responsible? You know, because I think, you know, it's interesting, because I think because of who you are, and the of your content and the fact that you have talked about your sexuality in videos, it's significantly different than just two comedians who are making a bunch of funny videos. When we think about the next video or we think about the next project, we're like, what thing are we going to create that's going to entertain? Not that we don't feel a sense of responsibility to our audience and that kind of thing, but it seems that there's a little bit more of a—it's a little weightier with you. Does that affect, like, what you're going to work on next? I think it kind of—honestly, like, the comedy stuff is, like, obviously more popular, and it's great, and it's comedy, and so it's wonderful to be an entertainer. And, you know, I know Grace gets a lot of intense stuff sent her way too. But Grace is a performer.

She's an entertainer. She's a comedian. She studied it. She wanted to do it her whole life. Like that's her thing. I think that because I never pursued entertainment, the fact that there's some resonance that can be more worthwhile in a different way, because comedy is worthwhile, but worthwhile in a different way, makes it more rewarding for me personally. Because, I mean, I love making people laugh,

but I also want to make things better too. In whatever way I can. I think for, you know, just to wrap up, I'm at the risk of kind of taking a step backwards. I'm going to say nipples one more time. No, I think maybe just this is re-asking a question and retreading some ground, but people who would say, there's certain people who may listen to our conversation here and they'll say, you know that Hannah, you know, she had a screwed up past. That's why she's gay yeah i know it's so and like look you're not like oh okay but you know who else is gay people that come from quote-unquote perfect households you know who else is gay black people

white people ancient people you know penguins dolphins like i get it but like there are people that it's it's it's i get i get really frustrated when people bring that up because it's a so obvious b so irrelevant because there's so much more evidence saying the opposite but people are like i figured you out you came from a broken home and that's why you're you feel the need to be homosexual and it's like you know a lot of like, you know, a lot of people come from broken homes. A lot of people come from healthy homes. And a lot of people are gay and a lot of people are straight. You know, it's just frustrating.

Well, Hannah, I will say this. I am very glad that you wiped all of the makeup that we put on your face off before we had this conversation. Oh my God. It would have taken a different tack. It really would have. Oh my God.

You know what? It's so funny. I've just, I totally forgot. I couldn't have it on my face. You would have forgotten that it's still on, but we would have been looking at it.

I would have been sitting here like touching, oh my God. I'm talking to half Beetlejuice, half Wolfman right now. Okay, we need you to sign the table. Grab the Sharpie.

Where is that, brother? Uh-oh. Did anybody have any makeup left over? We got to use the Sharpie. I can find it. I can find the Sharpie. Half Chiefs fan, half Cardinals fan. But seriously, thanks so much for sharing as much as you did

and for allowing us to have this conversation. Yeah, and this... I feel honored. You're very sweet. Also, I will be editing this episode of Ear Biscuits. There's no edit. They're looking at me so seriously right now. You guys can't even tell.

No, absolutely. No, we're thinking she does know that there's no editing at all, right? Yeah, no, my pleasure. Okay. It's a podcast. It just goes. And that was our conversation with Hannah Hart. I want to thank Hannah for coming and being real with an ear biscuit at the table of dim lighting.

She opened up, told us a real story. Yeah, I just felt. Maybe some details that you haven't heard before. I felt like it was a privilege that she decided to to share to that extent and we were able to gain and gain an understanding of who she is and where she came from and things that she had to deal with with appearance and everything you know i think that kind of unpacking her mom's story was something that uh maybe at first she didn't know we that we wanted to go there that was the type of thing we want to talk about on the podcast once we stopped recording hannah told us that she didn't want to seem like she was being evasive

and talking about her mom and her mom's illness, that it was just getting a feel for where the podcast was going. But once that was something that, you know, I don't know how far to push on things like that, but I'm glad that she was comfortable sharing that part of her life and having to deal with her mom's illness and continue to deal with it to this day. So the fact that she was comfortable sharing that too is, you know, I'm just, I love this show.

I love doing this. I feel like we've crafted this type of conversation for us. These are the type of conversations that we want to have with people, but I'm glad that you out there in the listening world of the internet enjoy it. Yeah, because I would say that the way I would characterize this show so far

is I think it's a pretty selfish endeavor, honestly, because typically what we do is we just try to entertain people. I mean, you know, not that we aren't, when we do Good Mythical Morning, when we do another video that we aren't sitting down and trying to unpack something, but it's almost always for purely for entertainment purposes. And with very little idea as to where this whole thing was going to go and what you're, I mean, first of all, we called we call it ear biscuits. We didn't really know what it was going to be. We're like,

let's just sit down and talk to some people that we know from the internet. Maybe some people that we don't know from the internet and, uh, ask them the questions that we actually legitimately have for them and just have an interesting conversation without trying to be entertaining or trying to be funny. But I have to say, when I,

when I go back and I listen to these, it's hitting me. I'm like, I am being entertained by this. I am enjoying these conversations because these people that we're talking to are interesting. You know? They've got, everyone has this story, and when you begin to put the story together with a person that you know publicly, there's a really interesting thing that happens. You learn a lot, and you know, it's challenging in a lot of ways and you know

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