Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Is it Wrong to Apologize with ChatGPT?

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Don’t worry, Rhett, you’re not alone. In this episode, Rhett gets some assurance that his “accident” happens to other people, too. Plus, Rhett & Link go over a tough would you rather about negative comments, as well as a deep discussion on whether it’s morally okay to use Chat GPT to write an apology for you. Leave a voicemail at 1-888-EARPOD-1 to be featured on the show! Setting up a Chime Account takes 2 minutes at https://www.chime.com/ear Get free shipping and 365-day returns at http://quince.com/ear To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This, this, this, this is Mythical. [♪ theme music playing. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Rhett. And I'm Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we're doing one more shorty. Shorty. For ya. Next week, we're back to normal length episodes of Ear Biscuits. But we're still breaking it.

We're still doing our little break, so this is helping us. We have an update on a situation. Me wedding myself. Yeah, have you peed yourself anymore, since it's been a number of weeks since you've done that? I've not. Let's not forget that you did it. Well, let's not forget that you did it.

Well, we forgot that I did it. Until now. We both done it, and I remember when I did it. I talked about it on the show, and then we asked people to make me feel better about it, by leaving voicemails. And we asked for a similar thing for you, so you're saying you haven't peed anymore. I haven't. Well, I've peed plenty of times, just not in a bit. Okay, good. Let's hear, let's get an update from someone. Hey, Rhett and Link.

This is Elza. I just want to call in regarding last week's episode or whenever you guys might end up playing this. Rhett, you are not alone regarding the peeing in the bed situation. This is about probably, I don't know, me and my girlfriend have been dating for about two years. This is towards the beginning of our relationship too and we, you know, I also, I drink water, I drink a lot of water, you know, I probably stay hydrated.

But I was sleeping in her bed, you know, sleeping with her and I was laying down on my stomach and I can't remember what my dream was either but all I remember is while I was still sleeping this the warm sensation and I was laying face down and it's the worst I was able it wasn't too bad I was able to stop myself but it did it was pretty soaked so as soon as I felt that one sensation, I immediately shot awake and I didn't wake her up. And I was just kind of sat there and was like, well, what am I supposed to do?

And I think I just literally ended up setting a towel on it too and laying back down after I got up and cleaned myself. Yeah, so right, you are not alone. I also have a wet in the bed, that is 21 years old. Love you guys, appreciate the show and everything you guys do. Face down. Face down.

Even worse. That's not a way to do it. I don't sleep face down. Bad for your back. Straight into the mattress. Just like, just powering it right into the mattress. Deep, where it can never be removed. 21 years old, that's gotta make you feel better. Right, yeah, it's not that I'm getting old,

it's just that it happens to the best of us. It happens to the younger of us. I wonder what he told his girlfriend. Well, I saw someone who works at a hotel as a housekeeper and they said, this is actually very common. We've run into this all the time. Oh, somebody's peed the bed.

Yeah. Hey. And what do they do? They just, I hope that there's that last layer that they put down before the mattress that is a barrier, especially in a hotel. Oh, I think so. That's gotta be standard, right?

I think most hotels now have a mattress protector or something at some point. Yeah. So that's waterproof for this very reason. If you just started dating somebody and you're sleeping over and then you're waking up peeing. Well, when I told someone that I know who will not be named specifically about this,

they started telling me about somebody that they knew or- That wasn't actually them? They knew or they knew of in a college hookup situation where this guy and girl hooked up and then she was sleeping in his bed after a hookup and she went to bed that night. And it definitely colors the mattress.

Yeah, it does. The mattress, yeah. Yeah. And it colors the situation. It gives it an aged patina. Like it did not become a regular hookup situation, it was a one-time thing. Ooh, that's tough.

And I think it was a combination of the like sexiness level of someone changes when they piss in the bed that you're in and you just hooked up with them. But also you feel self-conscious and maybe you feel like, okay, maybe I don't pursue this thing anymore. Let him off the hook, is that what you mean? Yeah.

But I guess you could also- So our entire relationship is built on the fact that you peed my bed? But I think maybe the man in that situation could feel somewhat proud of himself. Like I gave it to you so good, you peed the bed later. Is that, I don't know how, I don't know if it's physiological. I've never heard that in a rap song, and I think that's where that would have happened.

I'm gonna F you so hard you're gonna wet the bed. Later. Later. Not in the act. You're not gonna squirt. No, no, no. You are just going to piss the bed while sleeping hours from now. Hey, a rapper could figure that out. Yeah, I don't know exactly where the brag is. And the name could do it. It's just loosening up the bladder chute.

I don't know what you've done. What are you actually bragging about here? I don't know. You kinda limbered up the. I've heard rappers talk about screwing people so hard that they walk funny the next day. Well, yeah. So I think that accidentally peeing yourself could be part of that walking funny, like, constellation.

Okay. You know? You're walking funny and peeing uncontrollably. Okay. Yeah, okay. Maybe you're just, like, really relaxed afterwards. Right, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Calm you down. And bliss. Calm, okay. Maybe you're just like really relaxed afterwards. Right, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Calm you down. And bliss. Calm you down, so now here's- And I'm not gonna mention R. Kelly. Well, you just did. And I'm not gonna take the bait, like you did. Okay, look, we're moving along again. We're moving along again. I have-

Moving along again. Here's what I haven along again. I have. Moving along again. Here's what I haven't done. I have not peed the bed again, but what I have done is I would say two times out of a week, if I wake up in the middle of the night and I have to pee, I immediately get up and go pee. So it has put the fear of pee in me.

Yeah. And so most of the time I don't wake up enough in the night to go up and pee or I've woken up a couple of times and haven't felt like I needed to pee. But again, a couple of times I've woken up, I'm like, damn, I'm gonna sleep better if I just go pee right now, first of all, but also I'm not gonna piss myself.

And so I, and where, and. That'll wear off after a year and you won't think about it. In the pre-pee days, I would have just gone back to sleep. Maybe a couple of months. I think another month or two, you'll be over it. I got over it. And I haven't peed the bed since. And I still drink a lot of water. So maybe I'm flirting cover it. And I haven't peed the bed since. And I still drink a lot of water.

So maybe I'm flirting with disaster. I'm drinking less water right before I go to bed. So I have a few- It was an isolated incident. A few pills that I take right before I go to bed. And typically it would be with a full glass of water. And now it's kind of like half, half glass of water. There's no reason to spend designer prices on basics,

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It does happen to the best of us. It happened to me. I was 24 at the time and had just gotten with my significant other We had only been together for a couple months and we were visiting her mother's house Oh guys, and we were on thank God like one of those blow-up mattresses you put on the floor I had never peed the bed since I was potty trained up to this point. I had never been a bed wetter so it really was a shock to me when I dreamed that I was peeing and woke up and was actually peeing. Her three-year-old,

who has since become our 13-year-old, was sleeping in between us. And what I did, because I didn't know what to do, I got up and I changed my pants. And blamed it on him. And then I went and I just swapped places with the kid who was in the middle of potty training and still wore pull-ups to bed. And then woke up my lady and blamed it on the kid and said her diaper must have leaked. And I have not told her the truth about that to this day. So, you know, could have been worse, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

Thanks, love you guys. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Scandalous! Ooh! Damn!

Not to, I mean... I would have done it too. I would have done it. If there's a kid to be blamed, I'm gonna do it. Is one thing to blame the kid, is another thing to put the kid in your pee. Yeah, that was rough. Woo! But that's the price you gotta pay. Hey, you go over here. I'll eventually treat you as my own child, but not yet. Tonight, I'm treating you like the skate coat.

And does the kid know? The kid doesn't know. If his lady, as he called her, doesn't know, I don't think the kid knows. It's like, here, let me, don't tell your mom this, but I framed you for. I think you take that to your grave, unless they also are a listener, but the thing is is that even.

It's hard to do now that you've told the internet. Well, the thing is, is that even your partner probably wouldn't, probably doesn't remember this in the way that they would remember it if they knew you pissed a bit. Right. What are you talking about, the time that so-and-so wet the bed when she was three?

I never think about that. Oh, that was you. Oh, I'm gonna think about that a lot. You did the right thing. You did the right thing. You did the right thing. Desperate times, man. Desperate times. So when does this, when does it come out?

He's getting more comfortable talking about it. He's left us a voicemail, knowing that the public is gonna hear it. I think this is the perfect thing you say at their graduation party or at their wedding reception. Oh. You tell the story. Pretty self-deprecating.

Or their funeral. Oh, that's bad though, because that means you give guys before you don't want that. I just think that this confession draws a lot of judgment. Yeah. So I don't think you to bring that into a ceremony, a special reception of any kind. You know, to be viewed with derision. No one's gonna laugh.

No one's gonna laugh. No one's gonna look at you the rest of the night. No one's wrong with this guy. Your wife is going to be in a fight with you. Not because of what you did and confessed to, but because of how you shared it with everybody. So don't do that. And I think if you do tell the story ever publicly, don't say you switched places.

Leave that detail for the audience to basically ponder. Just be like, you know what, I blamed it on the kid, and the rest is history. And it's like, but when you say, And look at us now. You took the kid and put the kid in the pee puddle. And I don't necessarily know that that's exactly what you did, because a three-year-old's small,

I think you can position them off of the pee puddle. That's not how he made it sound. He made it sound like, well, the kid's wearing pull-ups anyway, so. My pee won't go through the pull-up and touch skin. I don't know, it's kinda what it felt like. I don't wanna think about the details, honestly. I don't wanna think about the details.

When he was telling the story about being on the blow-up mattress, it's funny, I started hearing pee hit a blow-up mattress. Oh. Because I know what that sounds like. It sounds like. How do you know what that sounds like? Well, have you ever hosed off a pool float?

You get some dust on your pool float. With a weak stream? With a weak stream, yeah, that's what it sounds like. I've actually done that a lot, right? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, I've hosed off a pool float with a weak stream. So I know what it sounds like. I just throw the pool float in the pool. Let the pool clean it.

Sometimes you need a little bit more power. Okay. You gotta knock it off. Any more? Those were the best ones. Okay, all right. Okay, that's good. Well, let's hear a different one.

Yeah. Hey guys, this is Jared from California and I have a fun would you rather question for you guys. So would you rather know everything that someone has said about you that has been negative, but not know who said it, or know everyone who had said something negative about you, but not know what it was.

Thanks, love the show. Everything that's been said, I mean, I'm sure everybody I know has said something that I would perceive as negative about me without me knowing sometimes. Sometimes they don't even intend it that way. Yeah, I think this is an easy one. Because then you're getting... you're just knowing all of these people that you care about, that you think care about you, that would never say anything negative about

you, and then all of a sudden they all have this like light bulb over their head? I don't know how you know, by the way. Do they glow in a certain way? I just think everybody would be glowing. I think you get facts to list. Because everybody... By a genie. I mean, everybody says something negative about somebody, even people you love. Sometimes, right? I mean, sometimes it's accurate. I think you would probably know.

It's called unspoken constructive criticism. You know, that turns into gossip. There's no way that everyone that you know well hasn't said something negative. And so that would be no surprise. And you might be able to guess at the people who would never say anything negative about you. But you, again, this is something you probably already know.

The other scenario in which you know every single specific thing that was said... That's gonna be tough. But you don't know who said it, I think you're gonna be able to use the specifics of what was said to then guess who it was and probably be right. But wouldn't it be easier to go up to everybody who has said something negative about you and say, what did you say? What did you say about me? What do you mean, what did I say about you? You said something negative about me. I know it.

Because I was given a... Just tell me what it is. It's given a proposition. I was given a would you rather. Oh, you were? And this is what I chose and that's how the universe works. So what'd you say about me? That is actually a really interesting scenario

to think about if someone had came up to you and said that, I know you said something bad about me. I don't know what it was. Well, how do you know that I said something bad about you? Because I was giving a would you rather and I chose this scenario and it actually happened. What did you rub a bottle with a genie in it?

I feel like the conversation would quickly move from what the negative thing was to metaphysically, how did this happen? Right, yeah, I think there's bigger fish to fry. Hold on a second. Well, yeah, I'll tell you what I said about your negative. Just to move past that. This could actually be a way to manipulate people to get them to tell you things that they've said,

because then, unless they tell you the negative thing, be like, I'm just kidding, that can't happen. But then you just be in a situation, as we've established earlier, you're going up to everybody you know and say, what'd you say about me? So you might as well just do that anyway, you've established earlier, you're going up to everybody you know and say, what did you say about me? So you might as well just do that anyway,

even if you didn't have special knowledge. Just make that a habit, that's a good way to move about life, what did you say about me? Huh? Because, I mean, you'll have some success, somebody will be like, well, I said so and so. Knowing everything negative. That's a problem.

It's gonna be hard to take, but you can navigate it in a way that helps you. This is really, I thought this was easy and then I started thinking about it. This is why this is a good Would You Rather, because if you know, okay, virtually everybody has said something negative about me, then it's kinda like, okay, I'm not gonna hold it against them because I don't know what it was and I don't know

to what degree it was. But if all of a sudden the specifics of what someone is saying about you, the specifics are what hurt. And that's gonna be a long list. That's what really, really gets at your soul. And then you're gonna be like, who said it? Now you're gonna be obsessed with knowing who said it. And even if you do know who said it.

You might not be obsessed with that because it's impossible. Both of those are bad. You could just be obsessed with making yourself better, but then that becomes, you can please everybody all the time, but. No, no, no, that's not how you, no, no. You don't better yourself because of the negative things that one person says about you. That's not, I don't, that's not how you, no, no, you don't better yourself because of the negative things that one person says about you.

That's not, I don't, that's not. Well, if you have a lot of people who are like, he uses the word, he says, you know too much. But oh, it's a wake up call, you know? You know? Yeah, I know, you know? You know? Yeah, I know, you know? So I think there could be some good in this, but it would be mostly harmful.

This is another interesting tangential question based on what you just said. Do you not think that if you just stopped and thought about yourself, like I feel like if I thought about myself and I thought about the negative things that people might say about me, I think I could put that list together.

It wouldn't be 100% accurate, but I think, yeah, I have a tendency to do this. I can see how people would take that the wrong way. I can see how people would, this would annoy people, or I feel like I could put that list together for myself. And so is that it, versus like, oh, it is true. If you think that, oh, people might think this about me, that's probably all the information that you need

to then know I'm gonna be proactive about that. I do even though, specifically the you know and the like thing, my mom said, the funny thing, the way that my mom talks to me about how I know about things is she will start the question with like, do you are employees? And then she asks a question. Because I think that she thinks like,

he's got all these people, these young people in California who work for him. So he must have some sort of like insight into how they all think. Oh. Like seeing them all as a monolith. Okay. And so like, are they all saying like?

And you know when they talk and I said, well, mom, I'm doing that too. And I'm not proud of it. I listened to this podcast from time to time, usually in short clips that show up on my For You page. For You. And I annoy myself at the way that I talk and the number of times that I say like,

and you know, and I try to be conscious of it, but I already know that about myself. It's not a knowledge problem. It is a- Well, there's, yeah. It's a willingness to actually make a change problem. But there's some blind spots. There'll be some things you learn, but there'll be so many more things that will be hurtful. Whereas I think I'm now choosing to know

everyone who says something negative about me because then you quickly learn the lesson, oh, everybody says something negative about me, then you quickly learn the lesson, oh, everybody says something negative about me and that may hurt a little bit, but then you start to realize that it's just, it's a part of life. I'm choosing that one as well because. And we didn't think we were. I'm choosing it because I think that the knowledge

of the other thing is too damaging and not as constructive. And the other one to me is just a wash. Yeah, if you had a list of everything that people think is wrong or bad about you, I feel like I do have- It would be absolutely overwhelming. But I feel like I do have that list. I have the internet.

Oh, you mean because of what we do, we have online comments? I know everything negative that someone could think about me at least as far as I have presented myself on the internet, which is pretty much. But it's happened over time. It wasn't like you were emailed one list, or as you said, faxed a list of all these things.

That's gonna be a lot to unbury yourself from beneath. It's happened to us very gradually. Yeah, of course. I was talking to, this is what Mike was talking about this other night. We were talking about. Not reading comments. Yeah, yeah, and then Mike was talking about this other night. We were talking about... Not reading comments. Yeah, yeah, and then Mike started talking about

the kinds of comments that he leaves on YouTube videos and he like read one to us and it was this incredibly thoughtful, encouraging, connecting, heartfelt thing. And it was like, wow. That's... Would make somebody feel really good. If more people would take the time for that kind of feedback, I think I might read the comments. Put the energy into the world that you want to come back at you.

That's an easy way to give a gift, is just to go online, if you watch something you enjoy, leave a thoughtful, specific, positive comment. And also, if... And it will most likely get read. And if somebody is willing... By us. Somebody is the kind of person that gives that kind of constructive edification, when they have something to say that's critical, you're probably, you're much more likely to

listen to them. Just inter-personally. I mean, I don't know how you would. But now we'll just know, dang, my friends that I love the most, that love me the most, that know me the most, they all said something negative about me, oh gosh, now I'm having to ask them, what'd you say about me? What'd you say about me?

There are people like that, the whole, what'd you say about me? There are people like that, the whole, what'd you say about me? That, boy, I stay away from that. I just know that people say a bunch of negative stuff about me. There's not a bone in my body that wants to confront somebody about what negative thing they said about me.

No, that doesn't seem appealing to me either. I know people like that though. More of a fighter. Some people are fighters. Revenge oriented people. Who are just like, you cross them. Yeah. You bring people up and they're like,

well, and the first thing they say is the thing that that person did to them. The bad thing that that person did to them. Or it's like, well, we don't, I don't talk to that person or let me tell you, but, and I don't know, just that part of my brain doesn't function in a way, and maybe even to my detriment sometimes. I forget. Yeah.

I'm not able to. That people have been bad to me. Yeah. Yeah, it's freeing to not hold grudges. Right. But to completely forget puts you in a danger zone too that I think we're both in. It's like you see somebody years later, and you're like, oh yeah, I used to know you,

and I don't remember why I don't anymore. Right, but I think I'm not supposed to know you and I don't remember why I don't anymore. Right, but I think I'm not supposed to like you anymore. Because the people in my life who are good at that. Right, and some people deserve it. Oh, 100%. To be cut out. I'm not saying that these people. That's the kind of list we need facts to us.

There's not many people in this town that I don't wanna run into. And I think that's a kind of list we need facts to ask. There's not many people in this town that I don't want to run into. And I think that's a testament of, hopefully, the way that we go about our lives. But, I mean, there's a lot of times when Jesse and I are, you're in a weird place, you're in another country eating dinner. And we'll play the game of,

who is the last person that you would want to walk into this restaurant right now? That's a game for y'all? Literally, who would be the worst person to walk into this, because it changes based on the circumstances of where you're at and it's just a fun conversation, because then the next question is, and what would we do?

Because if you're in another country, and you're, oh, you run into this person, the expectation running into an old friend or a former friend or just somebody from a different part of your life is that... You hang out with them? You hang out a little, right? Oh, yeah. So then you've got to be like, nah, I'm good. And I'm always going to be the person who's going to be like, sure, what can it hurt to have you sit down at our table?

Even though I'm not even that guy, I'm just, because I don't hold grudges, I'd be the one to do that, and Jessie would be like, look, and Jessie's super sweet. She's not a grudge holder either, but she knows where to put the boundaries up. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, Christy would be kicking me under the table. Right. I'd be like, oh! Actually, you know what?

I've got a leg problem. And I gotta go take care of that right now, so that's why we're not hanging out. It has nothing to do with you. Another fun game to play, which we also play, is who is the best person who could walk in right now? Like, who is the, if someone that we haven't, anybody, it could be anybody. It's an interesting game. Like, if they were to walk into this restaurant

in Portugal right now, if you had to pick, who would it be? And then what would we do? What would we say? How would it change things? Would it change our plans? It's a fun game to play. You should play that game with your wife.

Yeah, I'm gonna play that game, I guess. Who's the worst person and who's the best person. Worst person to be. We're here right now. Here right now. As long as you don't say that it's them. Well, honey, it's you. Yeah.

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and so she thought the apology would sound nicer coming from AI. Now I asked her if she would tell her husband and she said no, she doesn't want him to know that it came from chat GPT because it would hurt his feelings even worse knowing that she didn't write it herself. So I guess my question is, where do we draw the line when it comes to using AI for these types of things? Yeah, my name is Chelsea.

I love you guys. Please say it back. Bye. I love you, Yeah, my name is Chelsea, I love you guys, please say it back, bye. I love you, Chelsea. My name is Chelsea. Sorry, I just got what you did. Alright, so, this is interesting, right? I don't think there's an issue.

You don't think there's an issue. Kind of, I mean. Well, I sympathize, because to write something, I don't know, it's just really hard for me. I don't know, to like string together, to go from what I'm gonna say, you know, I'm just like, I like to start talking and just to see what happens.

And if I'm trying to give an apology from the heart, I might think about some things and then I'm gonna say it. But it's hard for me, and that may be true for a segment of people, that it's just to transfer thoughts to writing that then is artful or effective. I don't know, it's just, it doesn't come the easiest to me. So I'm tempted, especially if you agree with it. I feel like the balance here, or there's a bit of an analogy with cards, right?

Because like you've talked about, like our parents will send us cards, our moms will send us cards, and it's not that they write a whole lot, but they'll underline the things. Emphasis. So, okay, she really read what somebody else wrote and she made it her own by underlining it. This feels similar to me.

But that's, you know that that's what's happening. But you do know. To me, that's the real issue issue is that you're now not telling him that this is how you generated this, and so I think there's a level of deception that. I don't think it's deception. If you don't tell him it is. I mean, if people give speeches all the time

that they didn't write alone. I mean. This is a personal apology for something that happened the day before. But if you talk to a friend and you ask them, hey, help me write this. Now if the friend wrote it and then just gave it to you and you're like, wow, this is great, this is exactly what I feel. Would that be different? My friend wrote this apology.

It still feels- I think there's a bigger issue here. But it's something I've been thinking about as it relates to this because I do, you know, my wife is anti-AI. I know a lot of our fans are anti-AI, like across the board, like I'm not gonna use it. It's a way, it uses all this energy.

We're feeding all this information into this machine and there's a bunch of valid points there. I tend to just think that there is a certain inevitability to it and I want to understand it and utilize it in a way that enhances creativity and communication, yes. But I'm still like exploring that. But the thing that I am beginning to see in myself, but also in other people,

is a tendency to farm out critical thinking to it in a way that none of us can really do math anymore. Right, we just can't really do math because we have calculators. So some people have a couple of quick tips, you know, for like calculating a tip. And some of those things are easy, but and I think that's kind of okay

because we do have this thing. But when we begin to farm out the critical thinking and the processing that goes into formulating an apology, do we lose what we would otherwise have which is taking the time to do something that is difficult for you? do we lose what we would otherwise have, which is taking the time to do something that is difficult for you, if that's difficult for you. Taking the time to process.

I was talking to a person the other day who recently ended a long-term relationship and the person on the other end of the relationship who was essentially the person who was dumped, has asked this person to, in an effort to gain some closure, to write a letter, just sort of, because it was a long relationship,

like several years. And they wanted them to write a letter, it kind of just, can you tell me why? Can you help me understand more about why our relationship ended? Because apparently during the breakup, the communication wasn't that extensive. That's a good request.

And so I was talking to him, who this request has been made of him, and he was like, yeah, she asked about this, and it's been, I actually am not communicating with her right now, and I'm processing this. And so what I told him is I said, well. Use ChadDPT. I said, I think you should do it,

and I think you should. Write the letter, not use Chad. I think you should write the letter, I think you should keep a couple of things in mind. Number one, you need to be careful in what you communicate because this does not seem, this can't be interpreted as a bid for a reconnection if that's not what you want.

And sometimes, burying your soul in that way can like rekindle this thing and then, it won't help with the process. But I think even if you don't give her this letter, you should write it because you need to go through the process of processing why you ended this long-term relationship because I know why he did it ultimately

and I think it was the right thing, but I think that he really needs the time to process and organize his thoughts in the way that you do when you're doing therapy. And so I think that writing an apology and taking the time, because it does take time, even if then, after you write it, because maybe it's just like, I don't like prose and I don't like having to like

come up with words and make it sound elegant. That's a different thing. I think processing the bullet points, this, this, this. Let me think about that. This, this, this. Taking those bullet points and then putting it into, I mean, that happens on the iPhone now,

where if you're taking a note, you can like click on summarize with this in mind, like make it technical, make it friendly, make it more professional. You can do that on Google with email. Yeah, it's more wordsmithing. And so I think wordsmithing is a different thing because that, and I think that's an inevitability, but I think the moment that you get rid of that,

because the processing involves time. So I think there just needs to be like a time when you sit with it. This is golden. Because we're getting to a place where, I was talking to another person and he was trying to figure out what to do about a situation with a girl.

And he entered all of the facts of the situation into chat GBT and chat GBT gave him advice or like how to interpret what she was doing. And I was like, hold on, couldn't you have done that? And what did you not, what did your brain not get and not gain by you farming this processing out to chat GBT. Yeah, that's a good question, and I think when it comes to apology, like, say that, but what did your heart get out of it?

There's a difference between agreeing with something and expressing yourself. Because to express yourself requires work and process that then changes who you are. When you come to conclusions, if you're being told something, like, okay, yeah, I needed to hear that. I agree with that. I would not be surprised if it goes into a different part of your brain and into a different part of your brain, and into a different part of your experience, than if you're sitting there wrestling with, what did I do wrong? What am I actually sorry about?

Why am I sorry about it? And I don't know how to type it yet, but I am now feeling it. I'm experiencing it. I'm integrating the experience of these mistakes that I made into who I am. And then I'm communicating that to somebody. And it's more meaningful to the person who receives it.

A handwritten note is more meaningful than something you type. Apology is... It is. Okay, but... Because it takes time. But on the base, base level, yeah, all of that... all the time... like that... it communicates care that you're taking time and that you're putting in the work, but on a deeper level, it's actually like... an apology is something that, if it doesn't come from the heart and from an experience of

Regret and sadness if you don't actually have if you haven't processed it to actually feel regret Then you're just sorry You're almost sorry that you have to that you did something that you have to apologize. You're using the apology as Utility to get past something like Like, okay, I'll say I'm sorry if that's what you want. It's kind of like using chat GPT for an apology in my mind. And I'm not saying that's exactly what happened, but that is why it's fraught to use it for that type of communication. You're missing out on being as sorry as you can be. Like, experiencing sorrow and regret is

something that then can be expressed. And if you skip to just expressing it, then it's just words on a page. Whether you write them or not, it matters less who wrote it and more of... and it doesn't... and it matters more of not that you agree with what's being said, but that you're expressing something true from your own experience. And it is true that writing something does put it in a different part of your brain. It does. Taking the time to write it. It has to. To literally come up with the ideas and put them into words.

Yeah. And it is work. It's beneficial for your brain, but it's also beneficial for... That's why they say if you're taking notes in a class, you should literally physically write on something. At least you should type it. Right, because it's going from your hand to the paper to your brain. I'm just gonna let ChatGPT listen to my professor and create a summary that I'll look at later. It's not going in your brain in the same way. It's not as effective. You gotta take the time to process it. And when you just, everything, you gotta take the time to process it.

And when you just are like, if you're reading a book and you stop and you're like, I wanna remember that. Well, saying I wanna remember that is just like when you wake up and you've had a crazy dream and you're like, I'm gonna remember that. No, the hell you're not. And you know you will, but you won't. You're like, no, but this one,

this one I'm gonna remember. No, you're not. If you do not write it down, you will not remember it. Wow. I really think, I'm glad we did one more because look at that. Yeah! That was, I mean, I just gotta say, that was something. That was something.

That's making me think differently. All right, and we'll talk at you next week, and we'll be talking to you for longer. Yeah, a regular one. But for now, I hope that you're getting some R&R as well, because you deserve it. Hi, Rhett and Link. I've been watching you guys for over a decade,

so in a way, you're kind of like my family. Anyway, I'm in my junior year of college now, and I've been thinking about the future and how I'll be devastated when you guys die. So it would be really awesome if you guys could plan that out, just like to give my self-adequate time to prepare. You know, I'm not a big fan of being caught off guard. Thanks in advance.