Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Link Embarrasses Himself at His Son's College | Ear Biscuits Ep. 393

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

The dynamic duo are back in action! In this episode, Rhett talks about his solo camping trip, where he has some vehicle mishap, and makes an announcement. Plus he discusses what he was up to while he ...was out sick. Link sends his son Lincoln off to college and may or may not have done something embarrassing, but does he recover? Get a Glow in the Dark Mug at mythical.com! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. Your mom hates it when you leave six half-full glasses on your nightstand. It's a good thing mom lives on the other side of the country. And it's an even better thing that you can get six IKEA 365 Plus glasses for just $9.99. So go ahead, you can afford to hoard because IKEA is priced for student life. Shop everything you need for back to school at IKEA today. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast for two lifelong friends talking about life for a long time. I'm Rhett.
Starting point is 00:00:35 And I'm Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting, I have no clue what you're going to talk about. I'm back, man. You're back? One of the things that I do want to talk about, I didn't tell you about this, was, you know, reached a big milestone with my second child, Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Sending him out of the house, sending him off to college. Yep, but he doesn't get a full podcast about it because, you know, he's his second one, middle child. He's a middle child. But I hadn't told you about the details of it. Something specific that happened.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Walking around crying, heaving, crying. Was that part of it? Well, I will say that I embarrassed myself in front of the faculty. Oh! So that's my teaser. What do you want to talk about?
Starting point is 00:01:23 Well, I know you talked about your trip I have just a little tidbit from my trip That I want to talk about Jamie, what's the date on this? When does this come out? On September 11th Okay Thanks for saying that
Starting point is 00:01:39 So anytime somebody I know, but anytime anybody says What's the date on that? And they say September 11th, you feel bad for asking the question. Yeah, you should. You know what I'm saying? You should.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I didn't want to say 9-11. Yeah, well, now you have. It was written down. It was written down, so. So I'm going to give you a little insight onto something that happened to me on my trip. I'm going to limit it to that. You're talking about your solo camping trip
Starting point is 00:02:03 that I explained in the last episode that we had tandem solo camping trips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't really talk about yours except for like the 10 minute meeting that we had in the middle of not ever seeing anyone else for five days. Yeah, so I'll talk a little bit about that.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I'll tell you where I've been and why I kinda sound like I sound right now. Well, you still sound sick. I'm not. Everybody knows that you've been sick, but you're still sick. I'm not sick in the way that matters. I've been through a battle. I've been through a week-long battle,
Starting point is 00:02:40 and so my body is just like, well, we haven't completely... What about me having to carry all the weight here at Mythical? Well, Jenna was here. Yeah. I think you're okay. Yeah, you're right. She pretty much carried the weight. And I think she's not here today. I think it's either one or the other now. She had to leave. After doing this podcast with you, she had to leave town.
Starting point is 00:02:59 No. She did leave town, but you should be threatened. I'm just gonna tell you that. And i also have when she comes back i might i need to make a tough choice okay i also have an update for you uh one of the things that i did while i was sick was i watched a lot of programming as i'd like to say as a old man i never watch television anymore and i don't want and i watch movies occasionally but like i just never sit down and binge a show. That's something I did 15 years ago maybe, but I just don't have time for it anymore. So I did that. That's the silver lining of being sick.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I watched an entire season of a television show in one day. Wow. If your eyes get any bigger, you might let some germs in. And I'll talk to you about that show, and I'm going to tell you what I learned. Oh, we're still in teaser mode? About something. Because it applies to you, and I think it elucidates something that happened to you that you've talked about on this podcast before. Okay. but most notably was I was, as you know,
Starting point is 00:04:07 you probably already talked about the fact that I found an incredible campsite that then you enjoyed for a couple of days. You didn't listen to my podcast without you? It hasn't even come out yet. But no, I'm not going to listen to it. So no on both counts. It was really good, I thought. I'm sure it was.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I thought I got great feedback it was. I'm sure I'll see inevitably. I thought I got great feedback in the future about it. I'm sure I'll be inevitably confronted with clips from it in various forms of social media that the algorithm thinks that I'm interested in. The algorithm thinks that I'm interested in mythical content. And when I see it, I'm like, what should I tell the algorithm about this?
Starting point is 00:04:44 You know what I'm saying? Should I tell it? I mean, we kind of have a vested interest in it. Oh, I always like, what should I tell the algorithm about this? You know what I'm saying? Should I tell it? I mean, we kind of have a vested interest in... Oh, I always like it. If something mythical comes in the algorithm, I'll heart it and move on. Because I'm like, what does that tell the algorithm? He likes it, but he doesn't like it to watch a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah, I think you actually need to watch it. But what's one guy going to do? I feel like by liking it and moving on, I'm not contributing liking it and moving on I'm just keeping I'm not contributing to it Right, okay Negatively or positively Alright
Starting point is 00:05:10 It's like I never saw it So That campsite that I found Which is so beautiful It was the best campsite I've ever seen One of the best campsites I thought I was giving you a solid when we camp swapped. You want me to give you a campsite review on your campsite?
Starting point is 00:05:32 I know it wasn't as good, but there wasn't enough cloud cover to give you a stunning sunset. I'm just going to be honest with you. On a scale of 1 to 10, with the sunset that I could see through the trees the night that you got to enjoy the sunset, that campsite's a 10. Nine. Okay? Nine. Yeah. Without the sunset, because that sunset didn't happen the next day, because I don't know how sunsets work, but I kept watching it and just waiting for it to do the beautiful- It was a cloud cover. Barrage of colors that had happened the night before. You missed out, man. And I was like, it's not gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's not gonna happen. I was like, well, maybe it happens. I literally sat there and I was like, maybe it happens right before the sun goes down. And then I just kind of watched the sun go away and I was like, maybe it happens right after the sun goes down. We were having like opposite experiences. And I'm sitting there looking at it thinking. You were having the most disappointing. That
Starting point is 00:06:23 campsite's a four. When the sun doesn't set right. Just being honest with you. It's a four. You sent me to a four. Hey, man. I did the best I could. But while I was at that wonderful campsite,
Starting point is 00:06:37 actually the, not the first night I spent there, but when I woke up and I was lying on the rock overlooking that lake. Yeah, yeah, you're talking about the great campsite. Yeah. I was listening to some synth music. You know, so many genres. Synth music. I was listening to that Mort Garson.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Oh, yeah, he's great. And, He's a synth pioneer. And, it's, the music is, Whimsical. Is weird and whimsical.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Depends on what album you're on, but, I was listening to it, and, then I would notice, like, this dissonant synth, that he put into one of the songs.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I was like, oh, that's an interesting choice, Mort. Interesting choice, dissonant synth. And then the next song rolled around. I was like, oh, another dissonant synth. Have I never noticed these dissonant synths That seem ill-timed Out of nowhere Okay Third song rolls around It happens again
Starting point is 00:07:50 I'm like that's And I turn the music off And I wait And then I hear Eh eh eh eh Oh Coming from the fucking van Dissonant synth
Starting point is 00:07:58 It wasn't Mort It was the van Now It actually I have a Like it makes me feel weird when I talk about it because it was so jarring to me, and it really impacted my entire trip. Something happened. When you're alone, all bets are off in terms of how any anomaly can be taken, processed, and interpreted.
Starting point is 00:08:25 It didn't scare me, but it annoyed me. And it was pretty damn loud. And it turns out that it was the... Coming from where in the van? The automatic awning. Yeah, you push a button, awning goes out. Right. And I bet, you know what? So there's a wind sensor.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And if you drive off with the awning out, the awning will go in. And if a big wind comes up. Well, as soon as you crank the van up, it automatically closes. Yeah, because you don't want to be driving down the street with an awning out by accident. But if a big gust of wind comes up, it'll sense that and go in too. Yeah. So. It's pretty smart.
Starting point is 00:09:02 it'll sense that and go in too. Yeah. So. It's pretty smart. There is a motion detector on the edge of the awning precisely to detect wind and then to bring it in. And because it was out and there wasn't a lot of wind on that trip. I mean, it was crazy. The weather was super hot, but it was also not very windy on top of a mountain,
Starting point is 00:09:22 which was unusual. But a little wind that day, and it caused it to go off, but then it started going every 30 seconds. Eventually, I read the manual and learned that it said that it was the batteries needed to be replaced in the motion sensor, which, by the way, I did replace, and it didn't stop.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Oh, wow. You went deep. You had batteries to replace it? I took two batteries out of a flashlight that I had. Two AA batteries. MacGyver. And I literally... There were some old men hiking that trail where...
Starting point is 00:09:59 When I met you and we had our little rendezvous... Yeah. Rendezvous. We didn't get out of the car. No. It may sound like we went to a campsite and fondled one another, but that's not what happened. It didn't sound like that? No, I'm just trying to feed the rumors.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I'm just making sure. Fondled each other. Yeah, I mean, there's people out there who live their life. I barely hung out the window. Wanting to believe that we had a rendezvous. I barely made eye contact with you. I know. I looked at your dog more than you. But I'm interested in making those people...
Starting point is 00:10:31 I want them clicking. They gotta keep clicking. You trying to give this thing a title? So fondling rendezvous? We're so desperate. We went to that bull tree, the bull tree trail. Yes. I've already talked all about it. You should have listened to that bull tree, the bull tree trail. Yes, I've already talked all about it. You should have listened to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And the old men were there, and they... And I was like, hey, guys, do you have a screwdriver? I was like, I'm going a little bit crazy here. This thing's making this noise. It was so loud that as my van was parked in a parking lot with two other people, I was kind of embarrassed. And now as I began to walk that trail, I was like,
Starting point is 00:11:09 how deep into the woods am I going to get before I stop hearing my van's noise? You may live the rest of your life hearing it. And first of all, I'm out of service. I don't have cell service in any of these spots. And I was like, I'm going to replace the batteries myself. I replaced the batteries. The sound never went away. I had to put earplugs in for two nights to sleep, and eventually on the way back
Starting point is 00:11:31 home is when the sound stopped with no explanation. I think it was a short. That kind of sucks, man. I think it was a short. Now, all this to say... Hey, you know what? Don't listen to the previous podcast where I gushed about how amazing my solo trip was, how life-changing it was, how I can't stop thinking about how I want to experience it again. It's my new happy place that I close my eyes and picture.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I'm happy for you. I'm happy for you. Don't... But I don't want to rub it in. Well, with or without the sound, I would not have had that experience because, I mean, I guess this is going to serve as my ear biscuits announcement. I don't know when I'll talk about this on my own social media or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But, you know, I do a little music on the side as James and the Shame, and I didn't really expect this to happen this year, but a couple of things fell into place, and I've got a little EP that's coming out in November. James and the Shame is back with an EEP. How many songs is that? Well, technically six or less, and right now it looks like it is going to be six. We've got five completely mixed and mastered, and there's one that is – we're dialing it in.
Starting point is 00:12:53 We're trying to figure some stuff out. However, a little teaser, I mean, someone that you may or may not know that may or may not be in this room may – I don't know, may have been involved in one of the tracks. That's pretty exciting. More on that later. Yeah. But the first track...
Starting point is 00:13:14 Someone who's known for his beatboxing skills. Yeah, yep, exactly. All the drums on the entire EP are from Elkhound Snuggle. His mouth. the drums on the entire EP are from Elkhound Snuggle Paper. Ironically, the project is called Nothing Left to Love. I'll talk about this. I don't think for the follow-up EP you do a whole podcast or in the listening party, and that was kind of like the first go-round, but I'll probably talk about this in different pieces or whatever as different things come out. Nothing left to love?
Starting point is 00:13:47 Nothing left to love, which is the name of that first track that you've heard other than the one that you may or may not be involved with. Which I loved. And that's the first single, but also the name of the EP. I don't know what convention is, and I don't really care, and so I just kind of do what feels right. And so the name of the EP is Nothing Left to Love. That's also the name of the first single. Okay. So, because it's basically sort of like an ode to Enneagram Threes, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:21 performance-minded people, people who are just doing stuff, and they're just trying to do more and more stuff and they don't know exactly why they're trying to fill the empty void inside by doing stuff. Okay. Achieving things. With this, and that lyric will make sense. I'll talk about it later. Anyway, so the ironic thing is, is that this whole album is kind of an example of that. It's just like, why do more?
Starting point is 00:14:47 I don't know. I can't help myself. And so I just did it, and here it is, and I'm throwing it out there, whatever. But then what I did is I turned my solo trip into a work trip in which I was going to film myself singing some of these songs out in these beautiful locations. Spoiler alert, at least for that
Starting point is 00:15:06 first track, I don't think any of the stuff I shot for the first song is going to work because I just couldn't ever sing it right. It's not an easy song for me to sing. It was a live performance, not lip sync stuff. It's kind of a TikTok trend that I actually
Starting point is 00:15:21 am kind of into. It's just people setting up a microphone in the wilderness and singing a song. And I was like, oh, this is actually kind of a cool vibe for this album. And so a lot... You told me you were going to do this. And I was like, I was a little bummed for you. I mean, I was happy for you that this was coming out
Starting point is 00:15:39 and that you had this time just with you and your guitar and I guess your camera and your beeping van to like, you know, to cover your own songs. But I was like, okay, yeah, so now your solo trip is not, it becomes a work, I think it's going to feel different. So I was a little bummed for you. But this is the rub. I was concerned for you. This is the rub.
Starting point is 00:16:03 This is the rub. I was bummed for you. I was concerned for you. This is the rub. This is the rub. When am I gonna go into such a beautiful location, and I'm not gonna make a special trip for this, because my job is what we do at Mythical. My job isn't my music. It's my side project. And so it fits... It wasn't gonna take all of your time, anyway. No, but because I haven't shot video in a long... Like, the only video that we've shot... Everything takes longer than you do.
Starting point is 00:16:30 ...is, like, the vlogs from a couple years ago, which now we even made the decision to not do that and just let, you know, other folks shoot that. But I got this new camera, which I'm gonna... You know, I am excited about this. Okay. So you know that I bought that Pentax for like 100 bucks or wherever. I don't know, like the film camera. Yeah, where you would develop the film.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And I've still got like four or five undeveloped rolls of film because it's like it's a pain in the ass to get film developed. And then I stopped taking it with me on trips because I had to like get the guy at the TSA to like take a bag and not take the film through the new machines and stuff. But I really love photography and I was like, I wanna be able to take cool pictures. That was a layer. It was a layer. It was a phase. Oh no no.
Starting point is 00:17:20 That has ended. Film camera phase is over. No it isn't because I started camera phase is over. No, it isn't. Because I started watching all these YouTube videos, and so I started learning about Fuji film cameras, right? And when I say Fujifilm, I mean Fujifilm, the brand. And so they've got these, and this is for those people who know about this stuff, I'm just going to sound like a nimwit.
Starting point is 00:17:44 A nimwit. A dimwit. Yeah. A nimrod or a dimwit. No, you sound like a nimwit, but... A nimwit. A dimwit. Yeah. A nimrod or a dimwit. No, you sound like a nimwit. A nimwit. I know nothing, so... So they had these film recipes, essentially, where people have figured out how to...
Starting point is 00:17:57 Well, Fuji also contributes to this, basically. There are settings on the camera, and then people have dialed them in in very specific ways to like mimic very particular films and you can get really close to like oh if you were to shoot on film with this film it's not perfect but if you're just me and you're just going for vibes when you say emulate films you're not talking about like dr chivago you're talking about specific film stocks film stocks okay so like port like Portra 400 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Oh, okay. And so I've been experimenting with that. You're losing me. But also it has some really cool settings for shooting video that look very cinematic in a way that just like got a cool vibe. So I shot, everything I shot was in that kind of like filmic vibe, but you know,
Starting point is 00:18:42 just because I've got the camera out and I have a very little bit of battery, I'm going to... I got a setting on here. It's called 70s Summer. I'm going to take some 70s Summer shots. Because, by the way... What should I do?
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'm going to... I'm getting back into taking more photos. Okay. A lot of my photos will be of you. Okay. Because you're here. And just so you know, just do cool stuff, make cool faces.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah, that's cool. Okay, a little too much white on your shirt. Kinda look more pensive. I'm leaning back. Maybe I'll be forward. Action shot. Oh yeah, okay, that's it. Prayer?
Starting point is 00:19:26 Well, I gotta switch that up. I'm praying, but do I have a double chin when I pray? I don't wanna. Do it again, pray some more. Okay, and I got a different setting here. Let me go to that, let me go to my, I have a black and white negative setting, which is kinda crazy, it's crazy what this one looks like.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And I'm gonna act like I'm covering up the lens. Oh, that was a cool shot. Again. Okay, now dispensive again. Pray again. Pray again? Yeah, you're praying in black and white now. Pray again.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Pray again? Yeah, you're praying in black and white now. Dear God, let him get done with this quickly because I'm bored out of my mind. Okay, I got some good shots. Okay, you're going to be impressed with that. Okay. Maybe what we'll do is we'll just put them right here in the... Yeah, look at that. Immediate gratification.
Starting point is 00:20:20 If you're watching. If you're watching. This is all about getting... So you took this camera I'm always thinking about strategy I took pictures of you So that the people who just listened would be like Well now I gotta watch
Starting point is 00:20:31 Double views But When that sound happened I started listening to it and I was like I think it's happening at a pretty predictable rate I think it I don't know how many seconds it is but so I just like
Starting point is 00:20:51 I was kind of going nuts I got my guitar out because I You didn't have a dog that would have helped No a dog would have been a nightmare in this situation
Starting point is 00:21:00 when you're trying to film yourself singing Yeah that's true So I start playing and I kind of time out a certain pace in a chord structure that will predictably have spaces for this sound. Okay. And to embrace it.
Starting point is 00:21:17 And it felt like this sort of- Lemonade out of lemons. Yeah, exactly. So I wrote a song, and I was like, this song about this beep is probably going to get more traction than any of my actual music. You know what I'm saying? You wrote a song about the beep. So I wrote a song about the beep.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And included the beep. Which will be released at some point. I mean, not as like a... I mean, it'll just be on my social media or whatever. Again, it's all about playing the game, Link. You got to get people to care about it. It's all about achieving. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Ironically. So anyway, that was what my... That was, I think I actually learned quite a bit. I journaled quite a bit. Did you journal? A little. I jotted. I would not call it journaling. More of a summary.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Because I, you know, man, it's just like, I'm continuing. The thing that therapy has allowed me to do, I've always known that I've been, you know, man, it's just like I'm continuing. The thing that therapy has allowed me to do, I've always known that I've been, you know, everybody's a little bit messed up, but I've always known that. A dimrod. A nimwit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I've always known that I've got issues that, you know, everybody's got issues you've got to work through throughout your life. Is it time for the Better Health integration? I think that therapy gave me tools to go up to the proverbial battery compartment in your awning and unscrew it. Yes. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It gives you some tools. So I think that's one of the things that the trip was able to do for me. I was like, this trip is so emblematic of the way that I approach things, which is like, you got a little bit of time. Yes, you're relaxing, but this is also a great opportunity for you to do the things that you need to do for this thing that you've signed yourself up for, that no one asked you to do. Right. No one asked for it. Well, okay, some people ask for more music. I will say that.
Starting point is 00:23:08 There are people who ask for more music. But this whole thing has been about me doing stuff for me. You know, like I felt like these songs were in there. I got to get them out. But still, I found a way to turn it into work. And then this eh-eh-eh, eh-eh-eh started happening, and I was like, what does that beep represent? And I'm still figuring out what it represents, but I did write a song about it.
Starting point is 00:23:37 It's the gnawing reality that you still have work to do. And so do I. have work to do. And so do I. We basically, in totally different ways, we had the same experience of getting in touch with ourselves and for me,
Starting point is 00:23:53 experiencing the perfection of my campsite and my environment exposed my dependence on that. There was a lot of self-exploration that I think you were having.
Starting point is 00:24:09 You know, we were both having. Well, I think the thing that I ended up writing down now that I'm thinking about it was this beep. What it symbolizes to me is that you come up here to the mountains to be alone, to get away from everything, to get away from everyone, but you're still with yourself. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:35 Wherever you go, there you are. And yourself is not, I mean, it's not something that you, in many senses, it's not something that you, in many senses, it's not something that you like. It's something that comes with issues and things that you gotta deal with. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're being honest with yourself, you got a lot of shit that you brought up here,
Starting point is 00:24:56 besides this van that's messing up, just the guy that came up here with me, which is me, he got a lot of shit that he brought. And it's just on display for myself in this place. I'm glad you were able to turn the frustration into some sort of meaning. You were able to pivot and not just be miserable. I mean, you were miserable in a sense, but not as miserable as you could have been.
Starting point is 00:25:23 You know, You used it. Yeah. Now, even the next morning, I went to sleep that night with the wax. I luckily had wax earplugs. Oh, wow. Hey, listen, if you're having trouble sleeping, you got a partner that snores, you got people upstairs in your apartment building that make a lot of noise, you can do the noise. I don't know what a wax.
Starting point is 00:25:50 You can do the noise machine. You can do the foam, you know, the foam earplugs. But when you go to the foam earplug section of your local pharmacy, there will also be these clear-ish wax earplugs. And there'll be a pack of them because you're, I mean, you probably shouldn't use them more than once or I don't know how often you should use them, but they're like... You put them in hot water first or something? No, no, no. They're soft wax. And you take, you do the reach around, you pull on
Starting point is 00:26:24 your ear, you take one of these suckers, well you roll it out and make it a little bit flat, and then you stick it, I mean long. It's like putting a Tootsie Roll in your ear. And then you press it down and it completely conforms to the exact shape of your ear canal. But how do you get it out? Well, it does say warning. If you push these too hard, they may be difficult to get out,
Starting point is 00:26:46 but I've never had a problem with it. No, there's still so much wax that it's like sticking out. Bro, these things, you can't hear anything. Like an ax murderer could have been just gnawing on the side of the van and I would have had no idea. Oh, that would be a meth addict. Yeah, so I highly recommend these. They're way, I don't know no idea. Oh, that would be a meth addict. Yeah. So I highly recommend these. I don't know how many decibels, but it's way more than the foam ones.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Is it such that you're hearing your internal processes? That's off-putting to me when I'm like... I don't think so. I'm like hearing... Hearing your heartbeat? Yeah, hearing your heartbeat. Swallow? Yeah, hearing like...
Starting point is 00:27:23 Your eyes move? Yeah, your eyes move in the sockets. No, none of that happened. None of that happened. And I could also just like jump in a creek and not worry about getting worms in my ears. You've got to get these wax plugs. Okay, okay. All right, fine.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I jotted down one of the things was just preparing for the fact that Lincoln was leaving. So I do want to talk about that. I do want to mention, first of all, that we have new mugs. We got a new season of Good Mythical Morning. New season. You know what that means. New mug. Woo! This, it's the classic GMM on that side, but then as it goes around here, take a look at that. Can you believe it? And not only is that a super cool design,
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Starting point is 00:29:32 I did. That's not one of the problems that I was trying to tackle. I just can't help it. When I'm out there and I'm alone, I just can't help but think, like, man, what would I do if, like, everything ended while I was up here? I was emotionally processing or emotionally preparing for, at the time it was just like a few weeks later, and now it's happened, taking Lincoln off to college. And when we took Lily and dropped her off for college,
Starting point is 00:30:04 there's a couple of things. First of all, it was still like during the pandemic and like there was – I didn't realize that a typical taking your kid off to college, there's like programmatic stuff that the university usually like invites you to. And like when you dropped off Locke, like you as a parent showed up for different things and like right we did a little bit of that well there was a lot of that for Lincoln and I was wasn't expecting it because there was none of that for Lily and it was just you know the other thing it is it is somewhat school specific as well okay yeah that's probably true um the other thing was, and I talked about it a momentous occasion this was and everything that it meant and what it might mean for the future of our relationship and that type of stuff. That was rewarding. Honestly, I found myself thinking, I felt more prepared.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I didn't feel as emotionally volatile this time around. And then I started to feel bad about that. And I was like, man, is the middle child thing happening where it's like, okay, second one, yeah, doesn't, I'm not as worked up about this emotionally. And then I've still got one at home, you know. They don't really represent as much as the first kid or the last kid leaving. Well, there is a lot to that middle kid thing. And, you know, he's weathered all that like a champ. But then I started to realize that that wasn't really the reason why I wasn't as emotional. It was definitely a part of it.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Like, everything wasn't new. But the experience that I've had with Lily since moving her in has had a profound impact on how I approach this. I've seen Lily a lot. She's been back quite a few times.
Starting point is 00:32:24 She's come back home a good amount. And I've gone Lily a lot She's been back quite a few times She's come back home a good amount And I've gone to see her We've gone to see her It's not like I think I was afraid And thought that you know The nature of our relationship Was going to change when she moved out
Starting point is 00:32:39 To the point where Like Our relationship would be so much less But But actually, even though there's a lot more distance and there hasn't been nearly as much quantity of time together, the quality of the time that we've had together, I would say has increased and more than superseded like how we worked before, like how our relationship worked. So I actually experienced the fact that like we continue to grow and we have a lot of valuable experiences together
Starting point is 00:33:20 and our relationship is still very vibrant and she's still a very connected part of our family. And I don't think I expected that to happen. I was mourning the loss of something that I actually didn't lose. And that totally informed and made me, once I realized it, I started to feel better to the point where I actually told Lincoln. I'm like, you may have noticed that I haven't been
Starting point is 00:33:44 as worked up as I was when Lily left. And I want you to know that I've realized that it doesn't have as much to do with you being the middle child or certainly that I love you less or feel less connected to you than I do to Lily. It has nothing to do with that. It's that the experience of— He said, Dad, I haven't noticed. Right. Yeah, he wasn't like... I'm an 18-year-old guy.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Right. Yeah, that is kind of what his response was. He was like, it's cool, Dad. I know that you care about me and that you're engaged in what's happening with me leaving. But it really did alter the complexion of how I approached it. You know, I was able to be a lot happier, a lot more excited for Lincoln than I was for Lily, you know, because I think I was a lot more sad for myself with the first one. So we take Lincoln, we take him down there, and then we had packed up everything, but the first day was programmatic stuff. There's all the freshmen
Starting point is 00:34:56 and their parents go in this place, and you hear from the president of the university, and then there's these information sessions, and then we split up, and the parents have like a mixer, and then the students have their own separate thing, and it was like a lot, so much so that it was like the second day when we showed up that we actually moved him into his dorm room, met his roommates and all of that stuff. So that first night before we moved him in, we were invited to a smaller gathering where we had the opportunity to meet the president of the university and some of the deans of the different colleges. This is when you embarrass yourself? Yeah, it was like a mixer. You didn't have to go to this.
Starting point is 00:35:44 We were excited to go to it. And Lando was there. Christy was there. Me and Lincoln were there. We were kind of like semi-dressed up. We want to put your best foot forward. Okay. He's already in, though.
Starting point is 00:35:57 He's already in. You want to make a good impression with the dean of his college and stuff like that. Kids, dear, dear, respect the college dean. I had a bar, but I wasn't drinking. It's not like I got shit-faced. I got a Diet Coke. Okay. And then Lily and Christy were sitting down, and one of the, like the head of, I don't know what her title is, but she's like the main person in charge of like the liaison between like incoming students, their parents and like maintaining that connection. to another dean, Lincoln and I to another dean, and two seniors who were basically in a club that
Starting point is 00:36:49 they talked up their college experience. And so you got to meet some seniors, you got to meet a dean, you got to meet this woman who's moving and shaking and bringing everybody into the university. and bringing everybody into the university. And so we're talking in a circle, and it was going great. And, you know, I was like saying something, and I was really into it. And so my left hand, Lincoln was to my left, and then the head of the thing that I don't know her title. She was to his left.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And I'm holding with my left hand my Diet Coke, and I'm gesturing with my right hand. Had to figure it out for a second. And so here my right hand is gesturing through my left hand, and it's like they don't communicate with the same brain or something. Yeah, yeah. There's definitely a block in there. Well, I think it's biblical. Don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing. Yeah, I think that's about...
Starting point is 00:37:51 Didn't Paul say that? Nah, it's about masturbation. No, it's not. It's about... I never told. It's about giving money or something. I never told the other hand. That's how God finds out. So none of them get jealous?
Starting point is 00:38:02 God looks at the other hand. So my right hand didn't looks at the other hand. So my right hand didn't know that the left hand was holding a full glass of Diet Coke and just gestured in an upward sweeping motion and... You were talking. All eyes on you. All eyes on me. And I'm like, badoof! And I just send this thing flying right at my son's crotch. Oh, that's right at my son's crotch. Oh, that's better than the dean's crotch.
Starting point is 00:38:28 And then it splatters all off of his crotch onto a little bit of the dean. Oh, a little bit of the dean. A little bit of the dean. But it was Diet Coke. It was Diet Coke. It wasn't regular Coke. We'd have a real problem. It wasn't red wine.
Starting point is 00:38:41 We'd have ants at that point. It wasn't red wine. But he had on like, and then I'm like, oh, you know. How'd you recover? It's a pretty embarrassing moment. Well, I was like. You ran out? I don't know what I said, but I think it was something like, whoops.
Starting point is 00:39:01 And I was like. What did Lincoln do? Oh, okay. I know Lincoln. First of all, Lincoln's too sweet to get upset in the moment about it. Or maybe to get upset at all about it. He probably was like, dang, Dad. Yeah, that was pretty much it. Pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:39:21 He was like, Dad, Dad. And I'm like looking over. I'm like grabbing a stack full of napkins from the bar. And I'm like dabbing my son's crotch in front of the dean. Why didn't you hand him the napkins? I don't know, man. Because I was like. This is where you really screwed up.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And I was thinking, you know what? This is an opportunity for me to demonstrate. Give him the napkins. This is an opportunity for me to demonstrate how You could have just given him the napkins. This is an opportunity for me to demonstrate how... Caring I am for your son. How to recover from an embarrassing moment. You got to keep your cool. You got to be a little self-deprecating. I'm like, well, look at what I've done here.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And then the senior is coming in and bringing in more napkins and mopping up stuff. Oh, he has an assigned senior. Well, he was in the group. He was the guy talking to us. You should have given the senior the napkins. Yeah, and at that point I was like, well, I'm putting you to work. That's what I said. How much Coke was left?
Starting point is 00:40:17 I'm putting you to work. How early in the drinking phase was it? It was very early in the drinking phase. There's a lot of Coke down there. Oh, God. It was very early in the day. There's a lot of coke down there. Oh, God. Man. And I just really think it took the pressure off Lincoln to have to, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:32 You know, I was trying to make it... That was, yeah. Trying to make it easier on him. That's what it was about. By taking the brunt of the embarrassment onto myself. The old gesture with one hand and hit something in another hand. I mean, that's a special kind of thing to do. It's like the last, I was like.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Because if you just watch somebody do that and you weren't listening, it just looks like somebody goes. It's like, that had to be intentional. Yeah, let's watch the replay on that one. Apparently his left hand doesn't know what his right hand's doing. You know, I just, I was already a little bit concerned about, you know those environments that I don't want people to know me. I don't want to be the one who's recognized and was like,
Starting point is 00:41:14 this is about Lincoln and this is about like. You don't want to do anything to draw any attention to yourself. Right. And so Lincoln was very gracious. He didn't, he never let me have it. What about the dean? What did the dean say? You know, they were all gracious.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Oh, really? And I didn't, you know, I kept my poise. I was just like, you know, it happens. Yeah, man. It happens. Sorry about that. Stick around me long enough, it'll happen again. Yeah, I mean, at least it wasn't him.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So I was like, you know what? And then I continued the conversation. It opened a door. Well, I just moved on. And I was like, you know what? The best thing I can do is demonstrate to my son and anybody else who's watching, which is everybody apparently, that you just got to pick up the pieces or sop up the pieces, and just move on.
Starting point is 00:42:06 You know, it's not, you don't get quiet, you try not to get red-faced. You get louder. You get louder! It's like, well, yeah, that happened, and it's over. You know what? Let's just move on. But I didn't say that. Next round's on me. I just acted like that.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Hold it tight, everybody. So, legitimately, that's how I coped. I was like, I'm gonna demonstrate how you move on from an embarrassing moment. Well, yeah, what are you gonna do, walk away? Right. Well, droop your head and just slink back a little bit. It is fitting that... Bury your face in a napkin, perhaps. It's fitting that you're telling me this story about an embarrassing social
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Starting point is 00:43:30 Because one of the things that I, the show that I watched an entire season of, well, let me, first of all, I wasn't just sick, I had COVID. I haven't said that. Can we say that? It's just one of those things that for some reason nobody said that you had COVID. Well, I want to talk about it because...
Starting point is 00:43:47 So Good Mythical Evening, when I knew you were sick, obviously you didn't know you had it. Well, I want to be clear because we're very responsible around here. So when I got cold... So Jesse got cold symptoms. This is the second time this has happened, first of all. Jesse got cold symptoms on like earlier in the week, like Sunday night, Monday. And this is also the same thing that happened last year.
Starting point is 00:44:15 We made love. Okay. Great. And as we do often, and this, you know, I was like... Did it involve repeated coughing on one another? No, I didn't. Are you into that? I didn't, I, there was no lip, there was no lip to lip kissing for that reason. Because it was just like a little bit of a cold at the time, right?
Starting point is 00:44:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need not kiss. Right. And... It need not be a part of it. Well, it usually is, but when she's like, I'm coming, don't kiss me, it's coming down. It need not be a part of it. Well, it usually is, but when she's like, don't kiss me, it's coming down. It need not. And then she goes on to basically have a very mild cold.
Starting point is 00:44:54 She's super religious about, not about that, but about testing for COVID. And so when she got sick, she tested twice. We've got tests at home, just like we've got a bunch of tests here. Okay. Tested negative twice. So I was like, okay, it's not COVID. So then on like Thursday,
Starting point is 00:45:15 day of GMM, really like Wednesday night, like I'm starting to feel a little bit, oh, damn, I'm getting that cold that Jesse got. So I tested that morning, tested negative. And that's when I like texted you, you and Brian and Stevie. So I tested that morning, tested negative, and that's when I texted you and Brian and Stevie, and I was like, well, shit, I've got a cold.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Obviously, we're not going to not do it. It's not COVID. I tested. I got it from Jesse. She tested twice negative. Right. And so we're good to go. Now, by Thursday night, I don't know if it was obvious. I felt like horse shit all throughout Good Mythical Evening.
Starting point is 00:45:45 It was like... It was not obvious. It was getting worse. But I was like, I got to pull through, man. You sound worse now. You didn't sound... Because it was that early stage, right? You did good.
Starting point is 00:45:55 You did good. You were drunk. And then, yeah, that did help. Well, it helped in the moment to feel bad, but I think that like getting hammered right when COVID is actually setting in. I think I might have COVID. Probably not the best idea. Hammered!
Starting point is 00:46:10 So Friday, I got real bad. Friday night, I had a fever. Saturday morning, I wake up and I test again. I'm like, I got to test again because I got a fever now. Positive. And not just positive. It looked like somebody took a red Sharpie and went across the sample part of the second line besides the control line on the test. And I was like, well, damn, it's the same test. To quote Usher, you got it bad.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah, and for some reason this didn't show up. It's that new strain going around, whatever. And then it proceeded to make me pretty damn sick. Just like last time. Same pattern. Jessie gets a cold, we make love. She doesn't get... Of course, last time, she knew that she had COVID eventually.
Starting point is 00:46:56 And it was a pretty bad cold. But for me, it was worse. Like, multi-day fever, aches. I believe then I got it. From you last time. No, I think you got it from somewhere else, the timing, based on the timing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, it's going around again.
Starting point is 00:47:09 We're in the midst of the surge or whatever. Yeah, and once you tested positive, that's why I was like, man, I'm glad I didn't kiss that sex doll after you. Well, I felt horrible for you. I felt horrible for everyone. Because we've been really, you know, we're very strict around here about if you've got symptoms, you don't come into work. Well, you put on a mask if you're going to be around.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And so I just felt bad. I was like, man, I exposed a lot of people. So we had to do the thing where, like, we say, you know, there was an exposure. I think everybody knew it was me just because, I mean, I was getting sick. But so far it seems like we got away with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah. So, but anyway, I had to basically hole myself up in Locke's room. I mean, during the day, I would go, because, you know, Locke's in college. He's got a TV in there, and it's just like, we had some friends staying with us. And so I was like, and then then shepherd just hasn't had it yet so i was like i'm gonna spend most of my time in here and i'll just force myself to do what i hate to do which is to relax and watch things you know it's hard for me to just let go and do that but um i'm gonna tell you about some movies i watch but i'm gonna tell you mostly about the
Starting point is 00:48:21 fact that i watched all of season three of dave Lil Dicky's show, which I know you're also a fan of. I haven't finished this season. I'm not gonna spoil anything. Well, I'm gonna tell you one incidental scene that has nothing to do with anything plot related that informs something from your past. Oh, really? And anyway, so, oh, by the way, just so we're all clear, when we're recording this, I've
Starting point is 00:48:47 now tested negative three times. And so I'm no longer contagious. I've got like this residual like cough and this is where my voice is still kind of affected. But, you know, that'll probably be happening for a few days. But, you know, I think that, first of all, we're both huge fans of the show dave we just we we we love the way that just the sort of surreal comedy nature of it right and now you have your experience that you had with with dave bird little dicky in real life right where we were at a party it was you and i and stevie and i the story on here, but to keep it short.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Yeah. Yeah. I was like, are you Lil Dicky? He said. So the way that it worked was is that Link tends to just go up to people by himself. I mean, sometimes it's a strategic plan, but a lot of times it's just like the three of us will be talking
Starting point is 00:49:45 and then you'll just kind of leave and go start talking to people. Me and Stevie would keep talking to each other. And I look up and you're talking to little Dave, and then we find out. Little Dave. Little Dickie, and the conversation was? Yeah. He said, hi, I'm Dave.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And I said, oh, I thought you were little Dickie. And he was like, I am, but that's not my real name. You know, Jay-Z's real name is not Jay-Z. And I was like, yeah, I did. I just, I was just, when I got, I was thinking when I got close to you, you didn't look like the Lil Dicky that I thought from far away. But I didn't say that. About that time is when Stevie and I walked up, and you were kind of explaining what had happened, and then Dave said to you...
Starting point is 00:50:29 Do you remember exactly what he said? He said... I remember the exact words, because this is what... You're doing good. No, he said you're doing great. He said you're doing great. You're doing great. Because I was kind of...
Starting point is 00:50:43 You were explaining yourself. I was embarrassed. He said you're doing great. You're doing great. Because I was kind of... You were explaining yourself. I was embarrassed. He said, you're doing great. I wasn't doing as great as I did when I spilled the stuff on Lincoln's crotch. See, I've learned. I have more cool now than I did then. When we told that story... I was not doing great.
Starting point is 00:50:57 When we told that story the first time... Yes. The show had not come out. The show had not come out. Which is called Dave. I want to say that I think we told that story, and it kind of made him seem like an asshole. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Okay? I mean, at least very snarky. Like you're doing great. Like mocking you. Yes. It was reassuring, but in, I thought, a mocking kind of way. It wasn't mocking. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:51:24 It wasn't mocking. I've watched enough of this show. Now, I know, a mocking kind of way. It wasn't mocking. Oh, yeah? It wasn't mocking. I've watched enough of this show. Now, I know that the show... Yeah. I know that the show is not exactly the guy, okay? But my theory... He says that line in the show? My theory is that he's not an asshole.
Starting point is 00:51:38 No, I don't think he is. Okay. No. I think he's a nice guy. I mean, I've watched the show now. I think he's great. I think he's a thoughtful guy. I think he also is an guy. I mean, I've watched the show now. I think he's great. I think he's a thoughtful guy. I think he also is an awkward guy.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Yeah. Okay? I think we're kindred spirits. I think he's also an awkward guy because there's literally at least one party scene in this season where he's kind of demonstrating the fact that he doesn't know how to navigate a party. Okay? Now, that's an unrelated scene. I'm just thinking about that right now.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Okay. But there is a scene in which a fan, an awkward fan, comes up to him and is kind of, you know, doing the thing that people do sometimes. They don't know what to say, and they start saying things. Yeah. And he says, you're doing great. And he says it in a way that is actually like he's, you know, it's endearing. And I replayed the whole story through my mind again.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And I think that he actually was just trying to tell you that, like, it's fine, man. It's fine. Like, the fact that you didn't know, it's funny. We're all good. It's fine. You're doing great. I don't think he was mocking you whatsoever. I think that he was actually just trying to diffuse the situation.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And I think we both kind of misinterpreted it. But do you think I was doing great? You were doing great, man. No, I wasn't. That was the disconnect. No, you weren't doing great, but he was basically... Hey, you're not doing great. That means it's okay. But it's okay. It's you weren't doing great, but he was basically... Hey, you're not doing great, but it's okay.
Starting point is 00:53:05 It's okay. Doesn't matter. It's okay. It's okay, man. Huh. I'm gonna feel weird when I watch that, even though you've told me about it. You spoiled that for me, but I'm still gonna feel weird when I watch it. Okay. You know, so you... I don't wanna talk about it. Do you legitimately believe I spoiled something for you? A detail? Well, you spoiled that experience for me of like the blood leaving my body. You know what?
Starting point is 00:53:30 When he says, you're doing great. I'm like, oh my God, he said that to me. Is this whole scene about me? You wouldn't have remembered it. I bet my life. Oh, I would have remembered it. No, because you didn't even remember what he said. It would have gone.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I said you're doing it. He said, okay, whatever. You wouldn't have remembered it, man. Okay. Now you're going even remember what he said. That you would have gone... I said you're doing it, he said, okay, whatever. You wouldn't have remembered it, man. Okay. Now you're gonna watch it with appreciation. By the way, season three, great. All seasons, great. I love that show.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I love the way they do that. I love the choices they make in the final episode. Oh gosh. That's what I'm hearing. I mean, it's been built up now. Ben built it up for me. I'm building it up for you. So you'd probably be
Starting point is 00:54:07 a little bit disappointed, which is worse than me spoiling one detail in one scene. Yeah. But, yeah, man, it's inspirational
Starting point is 00:54:16 from a creative standpoint, you know. But, I also did the thing where, what? Oh, nothing. You're doing great. But I also did the thing where... What? Oh, nothing. You're doing great.
Starting point is 00:54:32 You know what you're doing. I also did the thing... Yeah, whoever says you're doing great first wins, you know? Because it's like... I do understand how it seems like a power play. It does seem like a power play, but I don't think that's what he was doing. I did that thing where you... Yeah, I don't think that's what he was doing. I did that thing where you... Yeah, I don't think it...
Starting point is 00:54:48 You're like, I'm gonna watch movie... I'm gonna watch some movies. And I'm gonna watch some movies that... I've thought this a lot over the past four months. I'm gonna watch movies that I feel like, as a person in professional entertainment, I should have watched. Yeah, you got time on your hands.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And I know what you're about to say. And I'm going to watch movies that people are like, you got to watch this movie for the sake of the history of cinema. You need to watch this movie. Like what? Like being there? No, no. Keep going in reverse, brother.
Starting point is 00:55:21 All right. Happy Madison. I'm older. Oh. Oh, going in reverse, brother. All right. Happy Madison. I'm older. Oh. Oh, going in reverse. I thought what you were going to say was you didn't end up watching any movies because you realize you don't like watching movies. Happy Madison is not a movie.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah, it is. Billy Madison. Oh. Happy Gilmore. Happy Madison is the name of his production company. Okay, whatever. I'm doing great. Did you actually watch a movie? Because that's what I was calling you on, that you actually realized you. Did you actually watch a movie?
Starting point is 00:55:45 Because that's what I was calling you on, that you actually realized you didn't want to watch a movie. No, no, no. I watched at least five. Oh gosh, that's so hard now. I was sick for a while. It's hard to watch movies, is all I'm saying. Because now we have all these other things that you can watch that take less time and it's a perceived smaller commitment. To sit down and watch a movie, you know what, take less time and it's a perceived smaller commitment. To sit down
Starting point is 00:56:05 and watch a movie, you know what? I don't do it anymore. It's just too much to handle. Movies are a thing of the past. Well, I think maybe you haven't opened yourself up to the way that you can get through a movie in 2023 with a phone in hand. Oh. And the phone in hand- I feel too guilty to the movie. No. My phoning during the movie was all related to the movie. Okay. It was like x-ray. It was like Amazon x-ray, but it was in my hand. I had a Diet Coke in one hand and my phone in the other hand.
Starting point is 00:56:37 They never touched. Oh, it did great. What did you watch? Citizen Kane. No, you didn't. Why? That's so dumb. It's not dumb.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It's not. When you look... I've seen it. I saw it in an intro to film class. Okay. Okay. Well, hold on. I mean, the editing was inventive, but now it's just like, oh, it was editing.
Starting point is 00:56:59 You know, it's like you have to understand what didn't exist before it to appreciate it. Who cares? But when you read about it first. Yeah, you have to read about it. So that was the exercise. The exercise wasn't like, I just want to be entertained. The process was, I'm sick. That sounded nothing like me.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I've just watched a whole season of a television show. This was a different day. I'm going to watch stuff that feels like I'm like, you know, I want to learn some stuff. You want to achieve something. So why do people care about this movie? Why was this considered the, why is this on every list of the best movies of all time? Why was it considered the best, the best movie of all time for decades? And then I'm like, oh, 1941, Orson Welles, he wrote it, he directed it, he starred in it, he produced it. It's kind of crazy. Okay. So, and then as I watched it, I like
Starting point is 00:57:56 would Google things about the different people or whatever. Yeah, because it's so freaking boring. I mean, it's definitely, you can't recommend it in the way that you would recommend like a movie that you want people to watch. Like, man, this movie's going to blow you away. Of course it's not going to blow you away. It's from 1941. But like in context, with a phone.
Starting point is 00:58:20 You have to have a phone and a Diet Coke. I was glad that I did it. But then I didn't turn around and then be like, now I'm going to go watch. I didn't watch Charlie Chaplin's City Lights, man. I didn't go silent film. I almost did. But after doing Citizen Kane, I was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:58:38 I don't know if I can take Charlie Chaplin. I'll save that for the next time I get COVID. I'll save that for next year. But then I've stayed on that list of like influential, I don't know, I looked at a couple of different lists. Then I went to Mulholland Drive, which I had seen before. Nick Nolte?
Starting point is 00:58:59 No, no, no, David Lynch, a David Lynch movie that's actually got the dude from the HBO show The Leftovers. That guy? Justin Theroux. Okay. Well, first of all, David Lynch, man. David Lynch makes weird movies. It's got, what's her name? The Naomi Watts in it too.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And then some other woman. So this isn't that old. No, it's like 23 years old. And there's a lesbian sex scene in it. If that interests you. I would say yes, it does. And anyway, that one was weird. I would say yes it does and anyway that one was weird and
Starting point is 00:59:48 I was just kind of like I get it it's okay but like there's just no heart in it so I just was like I don't think I would this is not like in my top favorite movies just because I'm not laughing at anything on purpose and there's no heart in it
Starting point is 01:00:04 it's just weird so then I was like okay what next favorite movies just because I'm not laughing at anything on purpose and I'm not, there's no heart in it. It's just weird. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So then I was like, okay, what next? Let's get a little bit more modern. I'm gonna watch that Nick Cage vampire movie. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Renfield. There you go. And uh. Can you recommend it? Rosebud. I think maybe I was movied out by this time. It's hard to watch a movie. Cause I was- Can I say? I was movied out by this time. It's hard to watch a movie. Can I say?
Starting point is 01:00:27 I was just kind of like, I was hoping for more. It definitely wasn't as good as that Nick Cage, Pedro Pascal movie. That movie was perfect. Can I just say one more time? Movies are dying.
Starting point is 01:00:40 They're too long. They're too long. You need to break them up into episodes. Or reduce them to like 15 second pithy clips that can be scrolled vertically. But as it stands, they're dying. They're gone. You know, you can watch it as a gimmick, but you're not going to enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:01:01 This doesn't happen in the theater. Because we don't have capacity for it anymore. Okay, first of all, I think that you should resist this. It's over. Secondly. Movies are over. This doesn't happen in the theaters. And I won't let my creative business partner
Starting point is 01:01:14 who co-owns my entertainment company with me say that movies are over. I'm just, you know what? Are you saying that as half of Rhett and Link or are you saying that as only Link? I'm saying that as somebody who's just trying to get a little clip on TikTok. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Let me know in the comments if you agree with me. Well. Movies are done. I disagree with you, and here's the thing. You know what, I also disagree. Here's the thing. You watch it with a phone If you're watching it at home
Starting point is 01:01:48 Which the thing that And I don't mean this for every movie There's lots of movies That I don't need a phone for I mean Citizen Kane I mean anything before 1950 You gotta give me a phone I gotta have a connection
Starting point is 01:01:57 To the modern world Yeah tell me why This should be good But the other piece of it Is I think that If you're like a Gen Z person, this is how you watch things already. And you know how sometimes you make a video or we make something
Starting point is 01:02:14 and you want to show it to somebody like, oh, there's a new video that we've been working on, and you want to show it to your wife or your kids or whatever. Okay, yeah. And if they're on their phone, it's like, get off your phone. Look at this masterpiece I've made. Every detail was intentional. I just thought about how filmmakers, the idea of somebody being on their phone while something
Starting point is 01:02:37 important is being said or shown. That's why I can't do it. Every single second. But this doesn't happen in the theater, man. Theaters, you're comfortable, you're laid back. You don't need to, it can't be on your phone in the theater anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Movies at home are dying. I'd like to make an amendment. Movies at home are dying. In a theater, they'll go on a few more years. Few more years. And I'm here for it. Okay, so anyway. What's your rec?
Starting point is 01:03:04 Citizen Kane. No. Have we probably recommended Dave as a show before already? I'll do it again. But I'll recommend season three. Okay. And you do need to start with season one and two. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:19 But yeah, I just, you know, you gotta watch it. If you like, I mean, we're not doing anything like it on the Rhett and Link channel, in a sense. But I feel like the same place that they're coming from creatively, I like to think that they're accessing a similar inspirational space. Well, there's creative juice. That's a narrative thing. It's not creative juice. That's a narrative thing, but they're making choices because they like the choices that they're being made and they're trying to say something that's another layer deeper than just the thing that they're showing you.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I thought season three was a little slow, but I'm hanging on for the part that was inspired by me. Okay, yeah, I don't believe it was. I just believe we've now learned this is something that Dave Bird says when in situations where he feels like somebody might be embarrassed about what they're saying or doing, he likes to say you're doing great. You're doing great. Yeah. No, I was saying to you, you're doing great.
Starting point is 01:04:13 You're doing great. And you know what, you've done great. Cause you've made it to the end of this Ear Biscuit. Let us know what you think by interacting with us using hashtag Ear Biscuits or leaving us a voicemail. I love it when you leave us a voicemail. 1-888-EAR-POD-1 Hey, Rhett and Link.
Starting point is 01:04:32 My name's Abby. I just have to say, my Google Maps glitched out as I was listening to your 1984 episode of the pod, and I got to listen to you two berate us millennials for not knowing how to use paper maps while I took several wrong turns with my glitched out Google Maps. Fine, you're right, we rely on technology. Rub it in, why don't you? Thanks for everything you do. Love the pod. Bye.

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