Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Link & Jenna: The Beach-Snow-Desert Challenge | Ear Biscuits Ep. 422

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

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What? No, I didn't practice, but I did remember this time that I needed to say that. At the Roundtable of Dim Lighting of what? You and I are just talking without Rhett. Rhett is gone. I am still unclear of all we're going to say today. Okay. Well, that makes two of us.

Thanks for taking Rhett's seat, keeping me company today. Rhett is on spring break. Well, Shepard's on spring break, which, you know, means we have the luxury of being on spring break when our kids are on spring break. Yeah. And so, yeah, I'm holding down the fort. And I found a bruise this morning. Oh, my gosh. Look at this bruise on my arm.

What happened? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, this thing, can you see that? The thing is so, it looked like an eyeball. You just noticed it today? It looks like a fisheye. Yeah, this morning when I was brushing my teeth, I looked down.

I was like, damn, there's like a, somebody painted a blue fish eye on my forearm. Yeah. That's as, I mean, that's bigger than a, that's about as big as a, it's bigger than a ping pong ball, smaller than a baseball. Mm-hmm. And then I touched it to make sure it was a bruise. And it was. It was. Yeah.

Sometimes you got to check. So that's my report this morning. Mystery bruise. Mystery bruise. I really think it's from a GMM episode when I ripped the skin off my knuckle. I think I might have also hit this arm, and I don't remember it. And it's just now starting to bloom into a bruise? Yeah, I think it may drain all the way down to my hand,

make my hand blue one day. It's not that bad, though. But, you know, when you get to be my age, these type of injuries don't go away. It's like I'll have this bruise for three times as long as I would as someone your age. Maybe, yeah. I'd say so. I don't know.

I guess we'll find out when I get to that age. Well, I'll get a bruise right now in that spot, and then we'll see how long it takes them each to heal. That's how. I'm looking for something to hit you how. You want me to hit you? I'm looking for something to hit you with. You want me to hit you in the arm? No, no, don't hit me in the arm.

Okay. Because I think as part of a bit in a podcast, it's appropriate. Oh, yeah, yeah. I really don't know. I'm a little sluggish this morning, honestly. That's all right. I don't know why I'm a little sluggish this morning, honestly. That's all right. I don't know why I'm so tired. I stayed up watching this show on Netflix.

I didn't know it existed until two days ago. And I was like, wait, I've read these books. This is the three body problem. Oh, yeah. Like before the pandemic, I bought the first book just randomly off like the bookshelf. And I started reading. I talked about it on the show years ago. And then when the pandemic hit, I was like, I switched to listening to the other books. And there's like sprawling.

You haven't read them, right? I haven't. I have the first one, but it's been sitting on my shelf looking at me for a while. It's very, they categorize it as hard science fiction, which to me just means it's hard to understand. But it's like, it's very, like it gets very technical at points. And I don't know if you're, you're into sci-fi type stuff. Yeah.

You would like it, but. That's why I have it. I just haven't got to reading it yet. Honestly, if it wasn't for the pandemic, I don't think I would have held on. But like, that was like the perfect time to get into it. But then I was like,

just looking on Netflix. I was like, what? I can't believe I didn't know that this, had you heard about it? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it's like out now.

I don't know if I'm recommending it, but I stayed up, I guess a little bit later watching it last night. And maybe that's why I'm tired, but yeah, I don't know. I'm going to keep watching it. The people who've watched it and the ratings on it are,

the reviews are pretty high. And I really, I did like the book. It's like, it's such a sprawling adventure across like decades and millennia and time and space. And it's like got aliens and but it's it it's in the way that it unfolds it's very it's it's very unique and inventive um but it's also kind of bleak that's that's why i don't know if i want to recommend it but like if you really i guess my recommendation is with the caveat that's like if you're okay with like bleak stuff the fact that it's um

so creative and so sprawling in its sci-fi nature i think that's pretty cool i'm back on the sci-fi bandwagon but thanks to dune yeah, it's got you back into it. And I got Lando into Dune. Like, I got him to watch Dune 1. So, like, now before it goes out of the theater, we're going to watch Dune 2 in the theater. Oh, nice. So, I mean, Dune 2 really rejuvenated my appetite for sci-fi. I think that's the only reason I was like, yes, I've read this book.

I love it. Because also over the pandemic, I read Dune. And that was super complicated. Yes. And I just don't know what to think when I watched the movie and I was like,

I've read the books, or in this case, the book, or Three Body Problem, all of the books. Yet, as I'm watching the show or the movie, I remember so little of it. Yeah, I was going to ask you

if you thought it was like the book at all. I don't know what it is. When you read a book, you remember it? Yes. I don't know. I mean, again, it's this bruising thing. I'm going to say it's an age thing. I just, you know, I don't read a lot of books.

So it seems like in the book space of my brain, it should be very, I mean, it's dusty. There's cobwebs there but when I put a new thing in that area if there's a cordoned off book area in my brain, I should be able to remember the few books that I've read well, I guess but you also, there's other things that have to go into your brain, I don't know I read a lot of books

I read a lot of books so they kind of go out of my brain sometimes too and if it's similar plot lines from different Yeah, I read a lot of books, so they kind of go out of my brain sometimes, too. And if it's similar plot lines from different series, I'll get—I'm currently reading three books at the same time right now. So there's that. Same genre? No, different genres, all of them. But are they all fiction?

Actually, none of them are fiction right now. Like, what type of stuff are you reading? Because I thought you read like demon romance books Yes, I do read those books I have no problem admitting that Yeah, my shadow daddies love them What is that? Shadow daddies?

Yeah, what is that? Shadow daddies are like They're morally gray characters, but they like, usually with wings. And then they end up... Listen, it's... This is a subgenre. This is a subgenre. This is a type of character in this genre.

Bad boys. Bad boys. Yeah, they're kind of bad boys. Bad boys with wings. Bat boys. Bad boys, yeah. They're kind of bad boys. Bad boys with wings? Bat boys. So, how bad do they get?

They'll destroy the world for the woman that they love. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright. And are they all by one? Whatever. Or people that they love. There's multiple authors. There's multiple authors. It's not just like one person who has the corner on Shadow Daddies. Right, right.

You can't have the corner on that. There's got to be multiple. Is there a Barnes & Noble section called Shadow Daddies? Oh my gosh, I hope so. We should tell, yeah, recommend that. That's the rec. I mean, where are you finding it? Fantasy?

It's the rec. I mean, where are you finding it? Fantasy? It's fantasy romance. So is it like, is it hard sex? Yeah. So it's like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, in some of the books it is. Yeah. And it's, what else do I want to ask about this?

Yeah, I didn't know that we were going here today. Okay. And have they been made in any movies? Shadow Daddy's movie. Not yet. Not yet. But a few of the series have been, the rights have been optioned. Of course.

To become series, I think, and not movies. Yeah. But we'll see. We'll see how that all goes um three body problem has an interesting tone to it it's like at first i was like is there a bit of it's what i call cw but like this whole like bit of tropish-ish characters, and it's all about their interactions. Like, oh, are they hooking up or not?

I actually thought there might be a little bit of that, and there wasn't any of that in the book. There was some love, but it was unrequited, and it basically was just a setup for being like never being together oh um but there wasn't any like i mean there wasn't no shadow daddy stuff so that scared me a little bit but i don't think that's happening because i'm not as i'm not as into that yeah if you don't want to read that kind of stuff, you don't have to. But that's not what you're reading right now. What are the things you're reading?

I am reading the Sound of Music story, the making of, and about the true life story about the people, the Von Trapp family and all of that. Okay. So I'm reading that one now. No sex in that one. No, no, there isn't. Yeah, lots of stuff about musicals and how to, you know, Rodgers and Hammerson and all that, and it's fun.

All right. Educational. I haven't seen—I've seen clips of The Sound of Music. I'm listening to—you've only— It seems beautiful. It is beautiful. And all the songs from it you think are these staples that have always been, these songs have always been around, but really it was just made for the musical,

The Sound of Music. But because they're done so well to seem like Austrian folk songs. Oh. Like Doe a Deer, like that song, Doe Ray Me. Of the female deer. Yeah, and then, exactly. And then Uh uh uh uh uh Exactly And then These Are A Few Of My Favorite Things song

That when they're in the rain That's That's pretty iconic Uh huh These are a few of my favorite things Yeah That's from That is not

A song that existed Before the musical You know Andre 3000 Covered that song Excellent In The Love Below And it's like Totally wild Okay Isn't that crazy Yeah Andre 3000 covered that song in The Love Below.

And it's like totally wild. Okay. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. I mean, it's an iconic song. It's an iconic song. And you start to think it has been around forever. What about, I'm just 16 going on 17.

How do I know all of these? I know you do. Maybe I have seen it. So do you like musicals? Is this how you get into liking musicals? Because it's the all of these? I know you do. Maybe I have seen it. So do you like musicals? Is this how you get into liking musicals because of the sound of music? That's... I don't know. You know all the songs. Edelweiss.

You remember when they start singing about that? I don't like that one. Oh, fine. I love that one. Edelweiss. It's so cute. Yeah, I don't... I guess I have seen it.

There's a... What happens at the end? There's like a stepdad. There's a guy who shows up and he becomes the dad? No. Maria goes to nanny for this widower, this man who has- Spoonful of sugar helps the medicine.

That is Mary Poppins. But also a musical, that song. And it's the same- They're both nannies. They're both nannies and they're both- The same actress. Same actress. They're both Julie-

Andrews. Julie Andrews, yeah. There we go. Yeah, so you're doing all right. She did Mary Poppins before The Sound of Music, but Mary Poppins wasn't out yet by the time that The Sound of Music was filming. So she was still like a...

Unknown. She was still an unknown, and they had to fight for her to be cast. But she's, I mean, obviously iconic. Anyway, so that's one of the books I'm reading. So they came out basically the same time. Sound of Music and Mary Poppins. Yeah, not too far apart.

Filmed and released opposite. No, she did Mary Poppins first and it came out first. But it wasn't out by the time she started filming. Gotcha, gotcha but um yeah they got to see like a daily of her as mary poppins and we're like oh yeah yeah please we need her all right so what's your other two books i'm also reading extremely online i think it's written by taylor lorenz oh okay um about the the history of the rise of Internet everything, which has been kind of fascinating.

I thought we were supposed to be interviewed for that at some point, but then I don't think that happened. So far, you're not in it. I don't think I'm in it. Yeah, yeah. But it sounds familiar because there are parts of it where I'm just like, the guy should have been interviewed for this. Because it's very much, yeah, it categorizes of like how it all began and how monetization happened and who kind of started that and talks about YouTube. No mentions of me yet?

Not yet. I'll let you know. Smosh has been mentioned, Dean and Anthony. Oh, okay. And what's the third one? The third one is grief is a thing withathers, I think is the name of it. It's actually a novel or a memoir kind of. So it's not really – it's true but not.

It's his take on the grief of losing his wife. But it's written in a way that's really innovative and new it's a pretty it's a fairly new book so i would recommend that for people who want what do you mean how is it it's written in different perspectives like it's him and then you see the perspective of his two boys and then the perspective of this crow character that comes in who is like kind of this antagonist, but also this healing quality of their. It's like a version of his grief that's pulled apart from him almost. And is it by chapter? Like each chapter is a different point of view.

It's actually shorter than that. Each chapter is a different point of view? It's actually shorter than that. It's like a page to three pages of one perspective, and then it switches to another. So it's almost like little poems together. It's really good. I haven't read anything like it.

It's really fun. Okay. I'm not currently reading anything. That's okay. I'm trying to remember the things I've read so that I can watch the shows and compare them. Yeah, yeah. That's all you need to do. Now you have to go back and read all those books again.

I want to make this whole podcast just about me digging into your brain. Okay. Now, the thing that I did want to ask you about, because you told me weeks ago and we didn't get to it, when Rhett and I were talking about our trips and we mentioned but didn't get into your epic solo trip. What are you calling this thing? It's called the SoCal Challenge. SoCal Challenge. Uh-huh. So you did everything that Southern California offers in one day.

Yes. You were in the ocean. Uh-huh. You were on the snow. Uh-huh. In the mountains. And then what was the third one? Desert.

Desert. Uh-huh. Okay. Within like 12 hours? Yeah. Yeah. Within like 12 hours. Okay, that's crazy.

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But I don't think I know anybody who's done it. Until you. So how long have you been thinking about doing this? A few years, since I heard about it. Okay. And then you were just looking for the right opportunity or the right person to do it with or people? Right opportunity because I did it by myself. Did you always know you were going to do it by yourself or it was like that was in flux?

I'd say that was in flux. I knew I was going to do it no matter what. But whether someone would join me or not was kind of up in the air. Um, but whether someone would join me or not was kind of up in the air. And that's something that always intrigues me about like the things that you do, like you do ambitious things alone. And it's, I think that's one of the reasons that I get, I gained some more confidence to start doing some things on my own. Like, you know, the recent ski trip or the solo trips before that.

Um, and now I just kind of relish the opportunity to do that they're fun yeah yeah because what i did i did like i went to the grand canyon by myself once and that was kind of the jumping off point when i told you all about that that was fun that was cold yeah you don't want to be too cold i was was very cold. Well, if you're getting in the ocean, this was a few months back now. I mean, you didn't surf. You kayaked. Right. Yeah, I did my version of it.

Okay. Because, like, typically it's done where you surf, snowboard, and then end up in the desert. But I'm not a surfer or a snowboarder. I'm a kayaker and a skier. Okay. So I was like, this is my version of it. So it doesn't count, but if you can at leastfer or a snowboarder. I'm a kayaker and a skier. So I was like, this is my version of it. So it doesn't count, but you at least did it. I did the ocean. I did the mountains. I did the desert. Yeah, but it's not the thing. You didn't do the right things.

Well, I'm not cool. I didn't do the cool things, I think. So did you kayak with a guide or a group or did you just go out? Where did you go? I went to Marina del Rey because you can rent kayaks there. But, yeah, I just went by myself and rented a solo kayak and kayaked around the, like, bay and everything. You didn't hit the waves. I didn't hit the waves. You didn't go into the ocean.

Except when some of the boats would come by. But I saw sea lions, and there was sea lions that were swimming around my kayak. It was very cute. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Could you have access to the Venice canals from there? I don't think I'd have access from there.

Yeah, you have to go around. If you don't know, the Venice Beach, there's like a community that is built around canals like the Venice. And then there's like these bridges that go over them and connect like the little streets. It's pretty wild. It's cute. People, yeah, they get around on their kayaks and on their little boats and stuff. Yeah, and I was going to take, like, back when I was first into stand-up paddleboarding,

I was looking for a calm place to go, and I was like, we can go there. But then it's really hard to find a parking space, and you feel like you're in people's backyards when you're over there. But you stayed in the bay. Yes, I did. I call it the bay, but the marina or whatever it is. All right. I guess that counts.

Did you get wet? I did. And how early? Because I had to get the kayak into the water. Okay. And out of the water. And how early did you get there? They opened at 9, so I got there.

Oh, that wasn't. Okay. All right. So I did it in less I got there. Oh, that wasn't, okay. All right. So I did it in less than 12 hours. So I'm trying to figure out, so if you're not starting kayaking until nine, did you like just do it for 10 minutes so you could get on the road? No, I did it for an hour and a half.

All right. I kayaked for an hour and a half. Kayaked for an hour and a half. Yeah, I got a little blisters on my hands. Not anymore. They've healed. And then what? And then I drove to, oh, well, I had everything packed in my car already.

And so, like, I did, like, a little quick change because I had gotten wet and I was wearing a bathing suit. So I was, like, in the parking lot. You know, you wrap a towel and you figure it out. There's an art to that. There's an art to that. Yes. Yeah. you know, you wrap a towel and you figure it out. There's an art to that. There's an art to that. Yes. Yeah, when Rhett and I first started surfing out at,

we would go out to Sunset Point. I mean, when we lived over on the, like, the Sherman Oaks, Encino area, it was so much easier. You're much closer. Like, we did that when you first started working for us, right? We were, no? Yeah. We were still surfing to get them out. You were still surfing, yeah.

I remember I would check the surf chart every now and then for you all to see. So it was like right when you started. Because there was a lot of Fridays that we would go. Yeah. I miss that. It's just so much, we're so much further now. It's so much harder to get there. Yeah.

But yeah, we had to master the art of the surf change. Yep. I had my own version of it, but I didn't have a wetsuit, but I had like my bathing suit and I'd gotten wet. I'm about to go into the mountains in the snow, so I was like getting on my bottom layers of snow outfit. It's kind of like a self-paced um iron man yeah but but a much more funner version it was much more fun like a much more my speed i would never like i do not like swimming i actually hate swimming and the thought of swimming for a long distance, I don't know how to do it, and I

don't have any interest in learning. Yeah, I won't do that. That's wild. Iron Man, no. Tough Mudder, I did that. That's fun. It's like obstacle courses. It's got more gimmicks. Yeah, there's more gimmicks, and they give you a beer at the end.

It's great. Yeah. Okay okay so you did that and then you were doing the quick change uh-huh and then i got in the car you threw on your layers to then drive where did you no i didn't throw all my layers on i just threw on the the bottom layer so just like some some leggings and then a shirt. Okay. Yeah. And then my flip-flops because I was like, well, I don't need to put on like boots yet. So you went to Big Bear or where?

I went to Big Bear, yeah. Yeah, which I guess is the closest. But that's still like a... It's about a two-hour drive. Two-hour drive? It took me about two hours because I get stuck in a little bit of traffic. Okay. So 9, 10, 11. So you probably got there at like 2, 1.30.

1.30, yeah. And then you had to rent skis and all that stuff. I'd already, yeah, I'd prepaid. And by the time I got there, there wasn't a line. So I got in and got my skis really quick. I was on the slopes by 2. I got in and got my skis really quick. I was on the slopes by 2.

And then, so you knew you had to be at the desert. Uh-huh. So, like, how much did you ski? About two hours. Two hours of skiing. About two, two, two and a half hours. I think, yeah, I got out of there about 4.30 or so. Are you talking to people about, like, what you're doing? A little bit yeah i did um uh at the kayak

place i told them what i was doing and they were like oh that's so cool yeah they were like really encouraging it was really cute and then um on when i was skiing i hadn't skied in a long time so that was i i only fell twice um the first time i went, because I was like, I'm going to do the bunny slope. Yeah. Get my bearings again. Fell right off the ski. The ski lift? The lift, yeah.

But the person was super nice. They were like, you had it. You had it. All you did, you just went a little too far back on your heels at the end. Just stay forward. And I was like, all right, I'll remember that for next time. They had to stop it for you. No, they didn't have to stop it for me. I got out of the way fast enough. You just scrambled. I know how to fall out at the end. Just stay forward. And I was like, all right, I'll remember that for the next time. for you. No, they didn't have to stop it for me.

I got out of the way fast enough. You just scrambled. I know how to fall out of the way. I can fall very well. Yeah, it's embarrassing when you do something and it's like,

you feel like that the hundreds of people are all impacted. That's the high pressure point. No one was impacted. I knew that I was falling and I found a way to fall out of the way. You see what I'm doing here?

I'm pinpointing the most challenging parts of your journey, which is trying to keep your towel up while you take your bathing suit off. Yeah, that's challenging. And then trying to not fall when you get off of the ski lift. Yeah, yeah, and not burden anyone behind me with my figuring out how to ski again mindset. I could have asked someone. I could have. No.

I was like, I'm just going to get out there and I'll just do it. But I only, yeah, and I fell one more time on that first run and then I had it. And then I was good. I didn't fall again. You went to the Black Diamonds? No, I ended up just doing, I think the hardest then I was good. I didn't fall again. You went to the black diamonds? No, I ended up just doing, I think the hardest I did was like a green or a blue. And is there like a mental component to this? Like when you're doing it, are you like really thinking about the fact that I'm doing this?

Is that an advantage to it? You know, it's like, I was in the ocean, and now I'm on this mountain, and I'm thinking about it. Yeah, I'm touching the snow. And it's giving me some perspective. Yeah, like, I still smelled like saltwater. That was kind of cool. I was, like, skiing, and I was, like I still smelled like salt water. That was kind of cool. I was like skiing and I was like, I still smell like salt water. This is wild.

I like the fact that it's this, it's an objective-based thing where you're like basically getting in your body. You're doing stuff. You're being active you're you're you're being alone you got a mission you've got things that it it's a new experience or a new combination of things that it is this challenge of can I do it and what can I get out of it yeah I guess that's what I'm wondering. Is that like, were you thinking about what am I getting out of this as I'm doing it? Or was it just for the shits and giggles of it? Both.

Because getting the shits and giggles are something you get out of it, you know? Yeah. It was fun. But yeah, I wanted, I always like doing things that are really grounding for me. Right. I always like doing things that are really grounding for me. Right. So the ocean, of course, is extremely grounding when you're out there,

and it's nice and quiet, and then I'm on the slopes, and all I hear is just, like, my skis. It's the best. It's really a great feeling, and I love being out in nature and having those moments of like where you're up on the mountain and you take like a breath and just think about it for a minute and be in the moment and you're like, wow, I'm doing this. That's cool. Like I haven't skied in like five years and I'm doing it.

I'm doing it. I'm doing this right now. Yeah. And I'm not, there's no room. I'm not giving any room to anything else. Yeah. Or very little room. Mm-hmm.

You know, that's when things get special is when you're, especially if you planned it and you're looking forward to it. I just love the anticipation, but then it's when there's the payoff of I'm here and I'm in this moment and I'm not allowing the other things to, to creep in. Yeah. You know, I think that's, I think that's what a lot of people who like go out into nature, they, that's what they, they start to crave, you know, I think for me, it's something that I'm still developing that, the muscle of enjoying the moment. Yeah.

You know, just saying, oh, I don't, my mind doesn't have to be elsewhere. Or I'm aware that my mind is elsewhere and I can bring it back to this moment type of thing. Yeah. You know, for me, it's always like that especially lately i'm going back to the centering thing for me is my walk in the dogs you know i've talked about this a number of times but i think this that's kind of like the that's the touch point for me if like if i've got enough head space to where i'm like in a good place, I can tell when I'm there. Like this morning, it was like, I was so groggy.

But it's a good check-in because you can tell, okay, the walk is very much the same every day. So if it feels totally different, then it's most likely coming from me, right? So like one of the things I did this morning was to say i'm just going to fill my lungs with as much air as possible and it was cold and i just like held it in there and i'm walking the dogs and i'm just thinking this and then i i did eventually breathe out yes you got to kind of you got to do that but it was like this it was like hitting this reset button yeah and i feel like your journey is like that on a on a big scale yeah because i do my i'll do daily things like you have your dog you walk your dogs and yeah i have my daily like

different meditative practices that i do or even little check-ins with my body. Like right now, I'm going to lower my shoulders, release the tension in my jaw. Just feeling good. Little check-ins. Totally. We have those daily check-ins, but it's nice to do larger check-ins with things on the further outskirts of, like, just in my body.

Like, get even further. Like, grounding in a much larger, something that feels much larger. Like, being out in nature, grounding. And you take a whole day for it. Yeah. I was talking to Lincoln. You know, he's going back to school today. So I was talking to him actually

yesterday and you know he's really gotten into his health and like working out and stuff but the thing that he was described I was asking about how has it been for him on spring break and being home and like he still goes to the gym here and like he'll go with his friends some. But he's like, yeah, I just haven't been getting enough protein. Is what, you know, he, like, he understands all of his macros and stuff. It's always protein. It's always protein.

But the thing that he said was, he was like, I was like, well, how can you tell? And he said, well, when I'm working out here, He was like, I was like, well, how can you tell? And he said, well, when I'm working out here, I can tell a difference that I just don't have. I don't have my body doesn't have everything that it needs to do what I want to do or what I'm used to doing at school. That is wild that he is aware of that. And that's what I told him. I was like, I was like, you know what? That is that's a real mind-body connection that you understand.

Like, you're in touch enough with your body to know when something's off, and you can start to make connections as to why. When I was his age, the thought never crossed my mind. No, me neither. I mean, I wasn't, we weren't in the information age, so it wasn't, like was it wasn't really that available all this information like once you want to get into something now you can really you can instant almost instantaneous to learn everything there is to know about something

but whether you incorporate that integrate into your life is another question and the fact that into your life is another question. And the fact that he was doing that to a point where it's like, he has this body awareness. And I told him, I was like, you know, that's really good. That's the thing that I'm trying to cultivate now. Yeah, same. I'm still working on that. And it's, yeah, I mean, like, I didn't know what embodiment was. And I didn't realize how much I spent my, basically, my entire life in my head. So it's things like this, these exercises now, for me, that are, like, it's training. Yeah. The walking the dogs, the, yeah, if I'm planning, like that ski trip, if I'm doing stuff like that, that's why I'm so fascinated about this excursion for you because it's like I'm interested in like, oh, what's my version of that? Yeah.

What could be my challenge? So you're up there on the mountain and you actually are able to think about these things. Yeah, yeah. And I ended up um i did make a friend i ended up being on the ski lift with uh like with a person because we were both yeah alone and i talked with him his friends just bailed for the day so um because i was like oh are you here by yourself too and he was like well my friends bailed and i was like well i want to keep skiing he's like hell yeah and we we end up. And I was like, well, I want to keep skiing. He's like, hell yeah.

And we, we ended up getting stuck on the ski lift for a minute together and chatting. Cause somebody else fell at the top. Yeah. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. Okay. But yeah.

And, um, the talking with him, it kind of had me be like, oh yeah, this is, this is different. It, and then having that moment with a stranger asking me all the questions about it was really cool too

because I was like, oh, yeah, I guess I didn't – I'm doing it, and now all I'm thinking about is like, yeah, I'm doing it, and I'm here. But then having someone to chat with that was a stranger gave me a chance to have a little bit of perspective in that moment of like, oh, yeah. Yeah, this is – I should take a moment and recognize this is kind of cool for real yeah so then uh he came out to desert with you or no no no we got off the ski lift and went our separate ways okay yeah all right cool yeah of course i don't know his name is michael he lives in west hollywood yeah it. I don't know. He's a nice man. His name is Michael. He lives in West Hollywood. I don't have to make it anything. Yeah.

It wasn't anything. He's a lovely man to chat with. Yeah, he lives in West Hollywood. He wasn't interested in me. Gotcha. When you left Big Bear, you kept going over the backside of the mountain? I did, which I'd never done that drive before. It was really pretty.

Well, the only way I've done it is on off-road trails, actually. There were a lot of off-road trails around, but the one I didn't have. No, I didn't. Because the desert part of this was just camping in the desert. You don't have to like, I don't know what you would do in the desert. I guess you could like, because they sand, people do like the little sand dune surfing stuff and you could do activities. What is the coolest version of the SoCal challenge in the desert? It's probably the sand surfing that people do or like having like a four-wheeler and...

Yeah. Yeah. Like a razor or something. Yeah. Something cool. No, I camped. I've seen people... I've done the sledding on the sand dunes.

Oh, that... See, I've never done that on sand dunes before, so that would be fun. And then you could get a snowboard, like a sand board. Yeah. And if i had to do it again now i would probably try the sandboard and standing on it but like it seemed a bit yeah sketchy yeah that's one thing i haven't done i want to hit the sand

so so you are like on uh bl land, like Bureau of Land Management? No, I use— You can camp anywhere there. Yeah, you can. I used HipCamp, though. So private, a private space. It's like Airbnb, but— For camping.

For camping. So you're on somebody's land. Yes. And you're paying them through the app. Mm-hmm. And then you can kind of, you've done that before. Yeah, I've done that before. I've never done, well, maybe I have done a hip camp thing once.

I think when I visited Lily in a camper van once, I stayed on a place like that. I always like it. Which is like a lot. They're always real interesting. Well, mine, whenever I've done them, they've literally been on, like, very sparse lands. Like, there's... Like, you can't see the owner's house? No.

Uh-uh. What was this one like? Was it... They had had, like... I also like it because there's bathrooms, typically. Like, there's some sort of setup, you know, even if it's just a hole that's dug in the ground with like a little toilet over it which was that the one that i would say oh okay um but it was like there's something there uh but yeah they had little string lights and they had like um a concrete uh yeah well like it was a concrete thing for the the fire pit like they had

Yeah, well, like, it was a concrete thing for the fire pit. Like, they had that little made up, which was really helpful because it was very windy when I got there. Oh, was it dark? And it was after dark, yeah. Oh, I hate that. I know. That's the worst. That's the worst when you, like, show up. You're trying to show up at a campsite and it's already dark.

Yeah, I knew. Like, I'm going into full dad moment. I'm like, well, no matter what we're doing this SoCal day, I got to find a campsite before it's dark. Yeah, that was my goal. But then I was having fun skiing. And then when I was driving out of the mountains, there was this really pretty sunset of just the desert. That was all I could see ahead of me. And I was like, I've never seen that before.

And so I pulled over and then just stared at the view for a a while and then I was like okay I gotta get to my campsite you got see you got nobody to answer to you got nobody to tell you we need to go it's gonna be dark at that campsite yeah that's what I'd have been like at that point it's gonna be dark if you don't get here it's gonna be dark I mean I'm only we might not find it I'm only making things difficult for myself you know it's if I'm gonna if'm going to be mad at somebody, it's going to be me. Nobody to blame, but nobody to take into account. Yeah. But I got there, and it was quite windy.

It was well after dark. It was full dark. Oh. But I managed to find the campsite. It took me a little bit because it was remote. But I found my campsite, and thankfully, the fire pit setup that they had was what it was because I was like, all right, that's great. I turned my little headlamp on, and then I had another little lamp and then I got the fire going immediately and would throw on

and mess with it as I was pulling out the tent and all the other supplies. Okay. So you slept in a tent, not in a car. Yeah. I have a tent that I've had for probably like a decade now that I can, I know it like the back of my hand. I could put it together. No problem. So I was like, I can do this in the dark. Yeah, yeah. That's good. It was hard because of the wind gusts. There were like 20-mile-an-hour wind gusts.

Damn. So at one point before I could finish staking in the tent, I'm literally just like holding it in place. From the inside? No, from the outside. I'm like bracing it with the things I put up. And I was like, oh, just let this gust go away. And I'd have to like hold it until the gust went away.

And I had like my mallet in one hand and I would have, I had the stakes like in my mouth. And then once the gust went away, I was like, okay. And I took a stake and would like stake it one side down in, and then I'd get ready, and there's another gust, and I'd hold it in place and wait for the gust to go away and stake in. The hills are alive with the sound of wind. Yeah, the hills were alive. But I did it.

It only took me like 25 minutes. I'm good with tents. So I just had to be patient and just wait until the gusts went away. The type of tent that I'm intrigued by now is still the bed inside of a Sprinter van. You know, like once you go there, it's hard to go back. Like I don't really have a desire to go back. But I have seen this one type of tent that I'm like, that's a cool type of tent, even if it's just for a nap. I'll nap in a tent.

I just don't know if I want to sleep in a tent overnight. Is it like the singular one-person ones that just pop up real quick? It's the ones that you couldn't do it in the desert because you need trees. Oh, yes. The hammock tents that you string them up, but then they have like a rigid kind of a system in it where it's flat on the bottom, and then there's like a completely flat mattress that goes in it. Have you seen these?

Yes, I have. Those are cool. So it's a swinging hammock. Yeah. But it's off the ground. It's just very sturdy, and you lay on this thing, and then it's got all these cubby holes inside of it where you can put all your stuff and hang your light

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I've been in very cold. I've been camping in very cold weather before, and that's what happened to me at the Grand Canyon. It was snowing. It was snowing, yeah. And I had, thankfully, I'm prepared. Well, I didn't know it was going to be snowing, so I just always have things in my car. But you need a big dog for something like that. You've got to have a dog down there in the bottom of your sleeping bag.

Yeah. Or a medium-sized dog. Yeah. Well, I'll have to rent a dog. You could probably rent a dog. Yeah, I could probably. Yeah. There's places where you can rent a dog.

Like, I know in Hawaii, you can go to the local shelter. Mm-hmm. And then you can, like, rent a dog for the day. Like a dog that's, you know, like up for adoption and then it's a really great system. Yeah. And then the dog gets attention and exercise and, you know, socialization and then you bring them back at the end of the day. Or you decide that you want to adopt this dog. Yeah, it's really so that you fall in love with a dog.

Right. And then adopt it. Yeah. I wonder if there's some of that in L.A. You could rent a dog to take it on the SoCal Challenge next time. I don't think so. I think there's stricter rules. Because just to volunteer at an animal shelter in L.A. is a long process.

So I doubt you could be able to take a dog out of it for a day. But it would be nice. But yeah, I didn't. I just was cold. Well, I had... They want to make sure that you're not like weird. You're going to do something weird to dogs or something? Yeah.

Okay. All right. I guess that's a good thing. Yeah. And also, well, you need to be properly trained with them. They have strict rules. Like if a dog were to bite someone, even if it's just a friendly or scared kind of atmosphere, they can't be adopted for like three months.

Oh. Have you done this training? Yes. Oh. Yeah. Okay. I did the training to volunteer at you done this training? Yes. Oh. Yeah. Okay. I did the training to volunteer at the Burbank Animal Shelter. And if you take them out and they bite somebody,

or if they bite somebody in the shelter. Oh, yeah. One of the volunteers, like if they end up biting, even if they end up biting one of the volunteers, that's a few months they're no longer going to be able to be adopted because they have to go on like this. That makes sense. Like it can't be taken out and played with either.

It's a whole thing. So you just need to be, you know, the dogs have been traumatized. They can't help it when they bite sometimes. So what were you going to say about? Oh, yeah. So I just have my sleep pad. It's like a thermal one. It's like a thermal one.

And then my sleeping bag is up to, it's good for as cold as like 40 degrees, I think. That's not much. No. I have like a, I think I have like a negative 15 bag because I'm so cold natured. Oh, yeah. You got to unzip that thing, throw a leg out. Yeah. And also like my tent, it's a four-person tent.

It's fairly large, and, like, I never put the thing over the top of it. The rain flap? I never put the rain flap over it because I'm like, I want to see. I'm out here. Yeah. I want to be able to see when I'm in the tent. 40? I bet it got below 40 out there, though.

He, yeah. Yeah. Okay. But I have other things, like a blanket, and then I have an emergency blanket if I need it that I just keep in my car. My car is constantly ready to go to just get the fuck out if ever something. I've got everything in my car. I've got my tent. I've got my sleeping bag. I've got everything in my car I've got my tent I've got my sleeping bag I've got my sleeping pad I've got extra water

oh yeah yeah it's just in my car ready to go all times so you could you could decide to camp right now

yeah and just do it mmhmm I just need to fill up my um reusable water jug that's in there

then I'll be good to go. Okay. Yeah. You got a shovel? You can dig your own. I got a little shovel in there. Okay. Dig your own bathroom.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm about that ready. I mean, Christy bought, like, they're not go bags. They're like earthquake. Oh, the earthquake kits? Earthquake kits. Yeah. Like, we have one of those in each of the cars but

i have one in mind i guess i would figure out what's in the bag if if we were ever stranded anywhere out and you know usually uh yeah it's usually like um water stuff sometimes food band aids band aids yeah there's always first aid aid. Yeah, it's kind of standard. Maybe a flare. There might be, or a glow stick or something. Okay. Sometimes they put emergency blankets in those, too. Like a spear to, like, go fishing?

A spear fishing? No, they don't give you anything to, like, have those kind of resources. So you slept there that night and then you got up the next morning and that well at what point had you done it when you're going to sleep when you wake up the next morning um packing up i when i was uh standing around the fire that was it i was like yeah i put my tent up thea. Yeah, I was standing around the fire. There was a little jackrabbit that ran by, and I was like, I did this. Yeah.

You felt good about it. I felt really good. I took a lot of deep breaths. I sang to myself, danced around the fire. You know, when you're out in the wilderness, you got to be silly. You literally danced around the fire? Yeah. You ever danced around the fire? You ever danced around the fire?

You should try howling at the moon too That's really fun Alone Yeah Yeah, I've never done that You've done solo things before I have not howled at the moon You should give it a go Just to like let it all hang out

Yeah I mean Okay I would definitely strip down naked in the desert all by myself. And then if I'm naked, then I would probably, I might go around the fire a few times. Yeah, because you got to get warm up. Yeah, you got to warm all sides. All sides.

If you're naked. Like a rotisserie chicken, just rotate. Yeah. And then I might throw in a hoot and a holler. Yeah. See, but. I encourage all hooting and hollering. That's a good release.

I can understand that this would be a good idea. So you did it. Do you have an idea of what you want to do next? Have you thought about it? Do you have an idea of what you want to do next? Oh. Have you thought about it? No, not my next solo thing. I mean, I've always got a list of things I want to do. They're never going to go away.

Yeah. I mean, one of the books I'm reading is because I'm taking a trip later this year. That's kind of a history kind of thing so i'm like reading books about the areas that i'm going to oh um where i'm doing a river cruise on the danube river starting in budapest okay yeah you told me yeah. That's a whole, that's not solo, though. But that's a week? Yes, yeah. Living, sleeping, living on a riverboat. Uh-huh. And where, the Danube, where is it?

It's in Europe, yeah. It starts in Hungary. Well, that's where I'm starting, in Budapest. Okay. Budapest. Budapest. Budapest, yeah. I know I'm supposed to say it that way but when you say it

like that in the U.S. people look at you funny and you're like oh he's a bougie and like no but that's how it's pronounced it's pronounced Budapest. Well that's how I mean when I say Melbourne. We say Melbourne correctly. Right. It's Melbourne. But I've known people from my travel group I'm not gonna mention any names who know it's melbourne and they called it melbourne for a while and then in certain circles they'd still go back back to melbourne yeah you can't do that i know i was like i looked at i looked at oh you went back uh-huh for the same reason don't want to be judged don't want to be judged so you're, okay, so you're going to be on a boat. Yeah. With friends this time. With my Aunt Marina.

Okay. It's our first, like, auntie-niece, like, adventure together. And she's never been to Europe. Oh, God. This is your idea. Yes. She's, I'm very proud of her. I'm very proud of her for, like, I'm so excited to go on a trip with her.

How big is the river? I mean, this is not a big boat. No, I guess it's not a very big boat. It's not like a cruise ship or something. No, no. It's a boat. Yeah. It's not a ship, I'd say.

But it's probably not, like, tumultuous because it's... 80 people could be on it. 80, 100. Oh, okay.uous because it's- I feel like probably about 80 people could be on it, 80, 100. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's not super small. Yeah, it's not going to be too rocky because it's a river. And then it stops at all these different places like a cruise ship would, but it's more- Yeah, we'll be stopping in like Vienna and-

That's pretty awesome. Yeah, I'm excited. Because you get to see, you get to traverse, but then you have the same bed every night. Mm-hmm. I get that. Mm-hmm. It's a different perspective of the countries that I'm going to. Is she going to like it?

I think so. We're going to have fun. All right. We're going to have fun. All right. So, I mean, your capacity for solo trip stuff, I feel like there's a little bit of a difference, right? Well, you tell me.

For me, it's like I start to crave the solo trip thing because I'm never alone and I'm always, but I mean, you're alone more. I'm alone often. You're alone more than I am. Yeah, I'm alone quite a lot. I already, I go on solo dates, but I take myself out on dates and just go, yeah. And is that, that's something you've, has that always been the case? Like a part of your life? Because it's never been a part of my life.

I've always been, I've never been alone. Yeah, I guess doing things by myself has always kind of been a part of my life. More so since I've been single for as long as I have. Like I haven't had a relationship in like six years. So since then it's just kind of like, well, I'm just going to go and do stuff. I don't need to wait. I've always kind of been one of those, if I decide I'm going to do it, I'm just going to go and do it. How else do I get out to Los Angeles from Tennessee if not?

So I'm like, well, I'm just going to do it. What do you think that is? Is that just always been a part of your personality? Or is that something that you, like, had to make a switch? Because there's people who will think about things. But then they, you know, it's, there's a difference between, like, aspirations and action. Mm-hmm. You know?

And it's, I feel like it's kind of a lifestyle. If you're not in one track, if you're not in the track of doing, it's hard to get over to that track. It is. You can really gear up and plan things out like, okay, a year from now've i've found this this long weekend or this this frame of time i'm gonna do this type of thing but i i'm over generalizing but i feel like that as humans we have a tendency to fall into you know into into a habits but maybe camps of like i'm gonna i might aspire but i'm not as much of a follow-through and then i'm like i'm gonna i'm gonna get out here and do this i think it's a

comfortability kind of thing you get uh because to get out and do those things you have to be a little uncomfortable um and i kind of enjoy that uncomfortable feeling. Like, I've thought, because I am very much a planner. I am very much, I'll think about it for years and years. Like, I thought about doing the SoCal Challenge and what that would be and what I would do. And then the opportunity presented itself, and I was like, great. I'm doing it. Opportunity meaning there was like a scheduling opportunity.

There was a scheduling opportunity, and I had done the math already on how much it would cost, and I had points here and there. So it worked out financially for me and schedule wise for me. So it's one of those like I thought about it for years and then like a week or two, a couple weeks out, it all just lined up. And I was like, well, it's not going to get I'm not going to find a better opportunity than now. So I'm going to do it. And that's kind of how I do things I feel like is like I've thought about all the stuff already but then once the opportunity presents itself I don't spend too long

weighing the options because I already did that right right that makes sense yeah because it's it's easy to talk yourself out of something it is always a reason to talk yeah yeah there's always a reason to talk yourself out of it sometimes you, there's always a reason to talk yourself out of it. Sometimes you just got to be like, nope, I'm just going to do it. That's what, I mean, that's why I wanted to talk about this because I just, I'm energized by hearing about other people who've like just hatched an idea and then gone for it and then followed through. And then if you feel uncomfortable, then you're like you. It's interesting to me that you feel that you like the feeling of discomfort, but I assume that it's because the feeling on the other side of it. It's like if you complete your workout, you have this feeling of accomplishment.

Yeah. Even though it's like really hard to get over the hump to actually do it. Yeah, it's like an exploratory kind of thing. It's like the payoff is doing something I've never done and feeling a way I've never felt and learning as well. You learn something about yourself. I learn something about myself. I learned something about myself. I learned something about wherever I am.

Like there's always something interesting that happens. There was a scorpion in my tent with me when I woke up that morning. And, you know, there's scorpions all over the desert. And I was like, oh, look at that. Never had to deal with the scorpion. Where was he specifically? Crawling around my sleeping bag. But, like, I needed to get him out of there because I was like, I needed to pack up.

And also, it's a scorpion in my tent. So I got him, like, on my little Kindle and then just, like, tossed my Kindle out of the tent. You threw the whole Kindle? Threw the whole freaking Kindle out of the tent. You threw the whole Kindle? Threw the whole freaking Kindle out of the tent. Oh my God. I didn't want to like

smush it. I didn't want to kill it but I also didn't want it in my tent so I was just like and the Kindle was fine. The Kindle and the Scorpion was fine.

Everyone was fine. Did you try to throw it? Oh, I frisbeed it. You frisbeed it so that the screen was up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that when it skidded across the desert,

it was the backside of your Kindle. Yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, to me, the energy that I get from your story is the type of energy that I'm hoping that, you know, you listening kind of get from what is that additional motivation to say, hey, I'm going to follow through with this. I have this little idea, or I heard about this thing,

or somebody did this, and now I'm going to put some plans in place, or at least to be ready. If like, okay, if the money comes together or if the schedule comes together like, yes, there's something, there's something that, that I can do for me that is, that's edifying, that is rejuvenating, but also maybe a little stretching or yeah. Yeah. Cause when you, when you say you learn things about yourself, these are things that you learn in your body, too. It's like, and so then when you have some discomfort that you're going through, and then you come out the other side, and there's a reward, or there's a reward, then the reward starts to move back to be a part of the discomfort is what I heard you saying. Like you like being uncomfortable because it's, it's now it's part, the reward has moved backwards to be associated with that.

And it's that, that risk is a reward. Yes. Yeah. The risk is, and also a good mindset to have is like, things are going to go wrong like that scorpion I don't know how I was like that's something I did not plan for and when you're alone there's this level of self-reliance that's like you just gotta figure it out there's no other

there's no one to turn to yeah when I was solo in Ireland by myself that was my first international trip I took by myself. And that was a whole different. I had to get on a train. I couldn't figure out the train situation going from London up to Liverpool because I wasn't in Ireland just yet. I was going to take a ferry over.

Okay. Things went wrong. And I just kind of figured it out and hoped for the best. And it was like, well, I'm on a train and I think it's going in the correct direction. I pulled up my maps and was like watching the train move. I was like, all right, I'm headed towards where I should be going. If someone comes along, I'll be like, I didn't, I don't know. I have a ticket. I think this is the ticket for the train I'm on. It was there to help me. And I was like running to it. And you just gotta, you just gotta be okay with things going wrong. And just be like, well,

we're going to figure it out. And I think I ended up being on the right train. Well, maybe, maybe the right train. It got me where I was needing to go I still don't know if it was the correct one No one came and checked my ticket But I paid for a ticket So that's What's the message today? Go for it!

Go for it! Go for it Things will go wrong But you know what? It's gonna be a good story It's gonna be a good story You know I feel that Yeah

Thanks for letting me pick your brain Yeah I always love hearing about these It's going to be a good story. It's going to be a good story. You know I feel that. Yeah. Thanks for letting me pick your brain. Yeah. I always love hearing about these, about your excursions for the reasons that I've said. All right. You can call us. You can leave Jenna a voicemail. Oh.

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