Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Link & Lily's Valentine's Date | Ear Biscuits Ep. 458

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

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Whatever you choose, your espresso will be handcrafted with care at Starbucks. ["Ear Biscuits"] Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Rhett. And I'm Link. This week at the roundtable of dim lighting. I'm gonna make sure he's okay. I'm gonna talk a little bit about my pre-Valentine's date, and we're gonna solve some problems, including how to deal with a close acquaintance

who is a conspiracy theorist. Oh. Wow. Wow. So how are you, man? You're not better, you're just here. I'm well, I'm better than I was, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't be here if I wasn't better. But I am than I was, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't be here if I wasn't better.

But I'm not good, man. I mean, I'm better and I'm on the come up. Uh-huh. But getting sick twice, I mean. You got sick. Twice in one month. And I haven't gotten sick, but twice in five years

before this and I'm like. It's a relapse. What's happening? Is it the same sickness? I don't think so. I don't think so, I don't think that's how it works. You're immune system's like. I had a good three weeks of health

and the symptoms were different. Yeah. And I thought I had beat it. I thought I'd beat it. I thought I'd beat it. But then you joined it. Because right before we went to Sundance, I was like, hmm. No.

Feel a little scratchy in the throat. And I said, I am not getting sick. And we went to Sundance and I was fine. Had a job to do. And then I got back and Shepard had fallen. He had succumbed to it. Which is not unusual. You know the kids, they get everything.

And so he was dropping, dropping, dropping out of school. He didn't drop out of school, he just didn't go to school. Wow, you gotta be real sick if you can do all that. For a few days. And yeah, man, it slowly, it just got me. And then I can't, then we worked again on Friday. It just got me. And then we worked again on Friday. Mm-hmm.

And then on Saturday, it just like, it just body slammed me. Fever. Well, we missed your last episode. Me and Jenna held down the fort. What'd you think of the show? I thought it was great. Yeah. I thought that the TikTok clips that I watched.

Oh, whoa, now, hold on. Really, really? What about every moment of the entire episode? Well, you know, I'm the kind of mythical fan where I just watch the clips, you know what I'm saying? Why watch the whole thing when you can see the best parts? It's just like when you're watching sports on YouTube TV and you watch the key plays, you know,

you watch the key plays. Whatever. It's just, it was pretty magical, I thought. I mean, I don't know about you, Jenna, but. Yeah, it was life changing. It was great. I feel like we saved lives. Oh yeah. Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you right now,

you just don't wanna feel threatened. That's okay. I understand. Yeah, that's why I haven't listened to it. I understand. I've gotten Lincoln on some of your reading recommendations. Yay! Or at least pushing reading still.

Okay. So. What about the fantasy boys? Hold on, you can't ask questions if you. You didn't listen to the episode. Yeah, so we're not gonna give you. That didn't make it into a highlight. Not all the highlights are out yet as we're recording this.

Okay. Jamie, is that gonna be in the highlights? Yes, there actually is a... Okay, great. I'll wait for it. That's right. Yeah, I'm not sick, but I keep thinking I'm gonna get it from you, and I'm gonna be mad about it. If you didn't get it, when we... Hey, I'm going to Vegas this weekend.

We were recording an episode of GMN. With my scooter club. And I know for a fact that we licked. Swapped spit. The same items more than one episode. And that was five days ago. But I would have gotten it by then. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you fought it off, man.

That's right, you impressed. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Cause like I said, I can't be not going on my Vegas trip. Well, I've been telling Barbara that we're bouncing back because Barbara's bouncing back. I don't know if you know about this. That's right. Give us a Barbara update too.

So Barbara got fat this year and you know, we're keeping it positive, you know, we're like, okay, if that's the way you want to live your life Do it Barbara Okay, but it turns out that it was we thought that we were overfeeding her and But then we were like lots of treats in your house So I was like, yeah, y'all might need to cut them treats. Okay, that's what I thought We don't do we don't do any treats except for when they go out to use the bathroom.

And I'm usually the only one to do that. What about the whipped cream on the floor? That is like two times a month. Mm-hmm. Listen, we were just in here... Oh, I'm about to call your ass out. We were just in here. You got your dogs here today. You're sitting there eating your lunch, and you're just taking pieces of your

lunch and throwing it on the floor, and your dogs are eating it. Jasper, he's in the corner right now. I have never... I have had my dog. I don't do that at home. I've had my dog, Barbara, for ten years. Come here. He's eating something right now. I have never once fed her off of my plate. I don't do that crap, man. No, I don't feed...

No, that doesn't mean she doesn't occasionally get on the table and eat off the plate. I don't do that crap, man. No, I don't feed... No, that doesn't mean she doesn't occasionally get on the table and eat off the plate. I don't feed him off my plate, but he's eating something out of the corner of the room. What are you eating? I brought him in this morning because I didn't... Well, we'll get back to Barbara, but... I didn't take him for a walk this morning. He's mad at me, because I went for a bike ride.

And so then I'm like, I'll bring you to, I gave up on the basket. I'll bring you to work, and that'll make you happy. He doesn't seem happy. He doesn't seem happy, because even when he came to work, he went over on the other couch and sat down and faced away from me. He seems upset right now.

He's mad that he missed his walk, because I do it every single morning, but I got to get, listen, I need some me time to go for a bike ride, and you can't come. And I'm sorry, but you can wait till tomorrow to get a walk. Yeah. Okay. He still looks.

He forgives me. That's why you can't walk him every day, because they get used to it. He forgives me. That's why you can't walk him every day, because they get used to it. Anyway, back to my dog who is overweight. So, it turns out that it had nothing to do with her diet, because she's been eating exactly the same diet

for nine years or whatever. But we started noticing, I was like, she feels heavier, and they were like, yeah, she's like up to 25 pounds. In her prime, she was 15. And they were like, yeah, she's like up to 25 pounds. In her prime, she was 15. And it's hard to tell on a furry dog. And then she's like moving slow and like she's not jumping up on the bed anymore. And I'm like, she's nine, which is what, 63?

And dog ears. And I'm like, that just doesn't seem right. And we were taking her to the vet and they would be like, well, just make sure you're not overfeeding or whatever. They did some blood work and she has some sort of thyroid issues. So there's some sort of hormonal imbalance that has been creating the lethargy and the weight gain.

Did dogs go through menopause? Probably. Link, they may, but that is not what's happening to Barbara. Oh, okay. Well, I don't mean to turn the rumor mill. She's been fixed, so it's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, anyway.

As have I. So we gave her the drugs, and then they said it'll be a few weeks. She'd be back and I was like, Barbara, we are coming back harder than ever. Yes. Got sick twice at the beginning of the year. You and Barbara. I'm getting it all out of the way at the beginning of the year.

Barbara and I are gonna be jumping on everything. Yes. Every piece of furniture we got, we're gonna be jumping on it. Have you observed any changes yet? Well, we started yesterday. Okay, all right. So it's just mental changes at this point. I'm just telling her she's coming back.

Well, that's why I got on my bike today. I was like, I have to do something else to position myself in a more positive headspace. I've got to get stuff, I've got to exert myself to a new level. Just to brah, get it out. What are you gonna do about the air quality? Nothing. You gonna have a vein mask?

I didn't think about that. Oh. You can't do it all, man. Stop making me think about things. I'm on my bike again. That's good. I'm just saying. You're saying I shouldn't be riding my bike?

No, no, no. I'm just saying that like every couple of days, the air quality is like bad in LA. And I'm like, what, out of nowhere, And then they're talking about the air quality's bad even if it doesn't show up as bad. Even if it doesn't seem bad? Yeah, because the AQI doesn't measure the toxic stuff that's blowing around from the fires. It just measures some other things, which are somewhat related. There's no fires right now, let's just say that.

There's no fires. Okay, well yeah, but I just wanna be clear. But there's all the shit that's on the ground that blows up in the air and stuff. Yesterday, the air definitely smelled not great. I didn't smell much this morning. You noticed that? Yeah, yeah, well, okay, so I decided to get an air quality monitor in my house. And I have learned some things.

So we got one for, we got one of those, you know, there's the purple air that Mike told us about. When you go on the website, people who choose to share their readings, they can pop up anonymously so you can get air quality readings. But I just got one for the inside of my home.

Okay. Which you can if you want, you can put onto the map, I didn't because I just got it for myself. But the cool thing about it is, is that the same color coding system that is on the chart, the spectrum that's on like the weather app, is the color that the monitor turns in your house.

So it's just this like little thing that looks like a mouse, like a computer mouse. Oh. And it glows. If it's green, you're good. And then if it's a little bit yellow green, and it literally covers the spectrum of all the colors. What have you observed?

Well, I have observed that two alarming things. The first alarming thing is we've cooked twice on our gas stove, like Jessie fried up some bacon, and we also cooked something, some shrimp or something. Both times. Uh-huh. It turned burgundy. So that's pretty low.

And then I looked and it was at 275. Pretty low, what are you talking about? I mean high. Pretty bad, yeah. I mean low means bad is what I meant, but high. Well, low means good. The higher the number, the worse the... You know what I mean, turning around.

275, meaning like, if you were outside, you would want to get inside. All people of all health levels exposed to this for more than an hour would experience problems. Like, when you cook inside your house... Where is the monitor in reference to your stove? The monitor is in the dining room on the little buffet little thing. So, like, in the next room.

Now, our, like, exhaust fan doesn't work great. Yeah, it should. Is what we're learning. How quickly did it dissipate though? Because I mean, when you fry bacon, you gotta open the windows sometimes. Well, it took about 90 minutes, maybe two hours for it to become green again.

And I was like, damn. Really? Like this has been happening my whole life. And also, you know, it's gonna green again. And I was like, damn. Really? Like this has been happening my whole life. Huh, yeah. And also, you know, it's gonna be illegal in California to build a home and have a gas stove in it because they're finding all the particulates that come out of your, go into the air,

especially for young children are really bad. And so they're encouraging a lot of people to switch to convection, which if we ever get a new, I think we are gonna get a new oven, new stove, I think we're gonna do convection. But the chefs love the gas. Yeah, but you can pretty much do everything with convection and I think you just gotta, I mean, I don't know,

it's for your health. That's the first alarming thing. The second alarming thing that I learned. I wasn't signing up for alarming things at all today. Yeah, good. Well, good. Sometimes, you know what? Sometimes you don't get a trigger warning, you know? Because life doesn't come with trigger warnings, right? Okay, Link, here's the thing.

When it got bad outside, now, when I set this thing up and we put, we had like four air purifiers in the house, I got it down to one. Well, I couldn't get it down to zero, I got it to one. Okay. It's very good. But it was pretty good outside, it was like 40 outside. But then we took the air purifier out of the room

where the monitor was, and the air quality got up to like 150 over the weekend. And I looked at the monitor and it was yellowish green. And it was at like 45 inside. And I went to that back door, you know, we have those French doors in the back. Yeah, there's a gap. It's like coming in like,

like somebody's blowing on you. It's crazy, like if it was like a nuclear situation and we had radiation in the air, we'd be screwed. And then I started noticing, I did not get crazy and I go around to all the doors and I realized that all these fancy metal, you know, Jessie is, she's a designer. So she's got these fancy metal double doors.

I mean, they're stout. You can get through them with a tank, but they don't close exactly as tight as, and so there's multiple places in our house that are not airtight. And then this brings me back to what I was saying with your bike out there breathing in the bad air. So I've got an elliptical coming because my,

I've done the rower and the rower has messed my back up and I just, I can't do it. Okay. And so I was like, well, I'm just gonna start, I was like, I'm gonna get rid of the rower, I'm just gonna walk. Yeah. But then this happened with the air quality. Oh God.

And so I've got the elliptical coming, it's gonna be in the garage so I can do more cardio cause I do, I'm good about everything but cardio. Cardio is hard. But then I start looking at my garage door. Yep. And like I've got- With the monitor down there.

I've got the cable to charge the car just goes underneath the door. I don't have it like set up outside. That's a gap maker. There's a gap. And then there's gaps on the side. You can see, I can see people out of the gap. So I am rerouting the electrical system to charge the car outside so that it plugs in outside.

Oh, you're on a mission now. And I am having a guy come to weather seal, because you can weather seal the garage. Yeah. Weather seal in the garage, putting the air purifier in the garage. So when I'm on the elliptical, I'm breathing zero, maybe zero to five.

Why don't you just wear a gas mask? Well, because then it really is hard to breathe. All I'm saying is- That's good training though. We've been breathing this air in for however many years, 13, 14 years, and you know, Locke pays attention to all this stuff, and he's like, I'm worried about you guys. Like, there's a lot of people moving their families

out of LA because of this. And I'm like, yeah, you're right, man. So I'm like, I'm not gonna go crazy over this. Er, got it. I'm just taking these precautions, and then I'm doing gonna go crazy over this. Er, got it. I'm just taking these precautions, and then I'm doing the thing. I'm just saying, you should look at the air quality before you go out into the bike.

We got some air purifiers to put in the house. Have you turned them on? Yeah. Okay, good. And one of them has a measurement on it, and it goes on and off depending on what's happening. Yeah. So, I need to pay more attention to that.

But the thing that, getting used to having air purifiers around has been difficult for me because I'm like, I go into a room and I'm like, what's that noise, there's a draft in here. It's like I hear the fan going, but it sounds like a window's opening and there's like something spewing in. It's like the exact the fan going, but it sounds like a window's opening and there's like something spewing in.

It's like the exact opposite of what I want. And so it's a big distraction to me. And then I'm watching some sort of entertainment. And I'm like, well, we got this freaking fan going back here. That's a problem. I've noticed that. You know, it's fan noise happening. You gotta turn it off when you watch a movie. That's right.

And wear a gas mask. Gas mask. If you run the air purifiers and you seal your house nicely, once you clear it, as long as you're in there, you're probably good. I assume they have like these whole house filters. I mean, there is a, you put the filters on that air conditioner that are like HEPA filters. It just stresses your HVAC system

much more than one that isn't that good. There's so many things to worry about. Don't drive yourself crazy with it, but I'm saying take some precaution and then live your life. I'm just taking some precaution. But the main thing is, especially after getting sick twice at the top of the year, I'm like,

I gotta get bounced back. Me and Barbara gotta bounce back. I know, I'm trying to bounce back too, man. That's it. But I gotta ride that bike, so I gotta figure out something. All you gotta do is just don't go out when it's like over 100.

It's usually not that bad. Okay. You'll probably be fine. The good thing is is that we don't have babies. Like if I, not to make you worried if you have a baby in LA, but like if I had young kids right now, but I kind of feel like I got a 16 year old, that's my youngest one, it's just like,

he's probably, whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. You know, like in terms of like what he's probably, whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen, you know, like, in terms of like what he's breathed in. And so, he's through the core developmental stages. And so, but I don't know what I would be a little bit. I wasn't one of those parents that freaked out a lot about their kids. Now I gotta start looking at that. At the purple.

But people are just like, it's the other things. I'm sure y'all know about this, but the AQI doesn't get the formaldehyde and some other stuff that is in the air because of the fires. And I guess you can get one of the things that will measure that, but I kinda don't wanna know. Yeah, let's not go there.

You're doing plenty right now. At that point, if I started knowing about that, I't wanna know. Yeah, let's not go there. You're doing plenty right now. At that point, if I started knowing about that, I would wanna leave. And I ain't leaving. That's not viable. I ain't leaving. Nope. We're not leaving. [♪ music playing. Funky music playing. Funky music playing. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure.

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and wherever you get your podcasts. Can I go to a more positive thing? Yeah, let's go to a happy place. You know, it's, romance is in there for those that are into that. Is there a monitor? Valentine's Day happy place. Romance is in the air for those that are into that. Is there a monitor for that? Valentine's Day coming up. Turns your thing pink?

It's called the calendar. And Lily and I have an annual tradition to go on a Valentine's date each year. Of course, last year I think we ended up going in August. Because now she doesn't live at home. It's just kind of a crap shoot when our schedules are gonna line up. But she was talking to me about coming back home

and she was like, hey, we could go ahead and get a head start on our Valentine's date. And I was like, yes, let's do that. So we've already, we just celebrated our Valentine's Day this past Saturday. What'd you do? We, I took her to Andy's, which is this restaurant, bar, slash club in West Hollywood that is started by Anderson Paak, recent Grammy winner, and no worries.

Good album. What did he win for? Best R&B, alternative R&B album, I think is what it was. But yeah, when he's in that band, it's him and another guy named Knowledge, and they're called No Worries together. And they have an album called Yes Lord from a few years ago.

And then this latest one is called Why, Lord. Oh, you played me some of that. I played you some of that. It's good. Mm-hmm. You liked it. Anyway, this is his spot, and it's brand new, like five months old, and started following him

on Instagram, and it just seems like a fun 70s lounge vibe. Like lighting in the ceiling, cool furniture, bar central, then a big floor level stage with like lighting on the ceiling going to it. It's just cool, they have like live music and DJs. So I've been really wanting to go. I knew that Lily would love it.

So we went there. We got reservations at seven and then, you know, we could only keep the table for an hour and a half. They're doing that now. Because people will come, they wanna turn over to the table twice and then they start having like the band shows up and then it becomes more of a club.

So we could have waited for another hour and a half there to like for the for the band to come out and I felt like Anderson Pack might show up. I'm sure he does. He does shows up a lot. But then we opt, I mean, it was good, it was a really cool place, I recommend it,

we should go back, and if you get the later reservation you can, then you're more likely to be able to stay and just like have a few drinks, hang out, until it turns into a party. Like later on that night, they're like lined up around the block to get in, but if you get in early enough, you can kinda just stay in there, but not at a table. And, I mean, we weren't really keen on continuing to drink, honestly, so we were like, we're not gonna hang out for this. We can go back home and

hang out. And I was like, let's just walk down, let's walk down the street. Let's see if we can find the Pink Pony Club. Chaperone has a song about. I'm aware of it. The Pink Pony Club in West Hollywood. Yep. Turns out not really there. I was gonna say, I didn't think it was real.

It's fictional. Okay. But the spirit of the Pink Pony Club is very much alive and well in West Hollywood, my friend. And I've- Did your daughter not know that it was fictitional West Hollywood, my friend. And I've... Did your daughter not know that it was fictitional? Yeah, she knew.

Okay. I said let's search for it metaphorically is really what I was saying. Because I thought she would have corrected you on that pretty quickly. Like, I just wanted to like, let's just see what's going on down here. What's going on is a lot of gay people having good times. Yep.

A lot of queer people having amazing times. And hey, we're cool with that. So we're walking around, people recognizing me, coming up to me, wondering some things, but then just like knowing that they were fans and that's cool. Wondering some things. I don't know, maybe if I was not just an advocate,

but one of them. Well, you were with a woman. I was. Who was your daughter? Who was my daughter, though. Who seems like she, you know, why is she with a younger woman? I did feel- They may have concluded something.

I did feel they needed to tell our waitress- It's my daughter, it's my daughter. It's my daughter, and then it got, I don't know, it felt weirder saying it than not, but I don't know, I just wanted to clarify. I guess the way that I said it was a little, maybe, corange. Yeah. This is my daughter. This is our Valentine's Day. Sounds like it.

I don't know. I'm not the best at that. We're walking down the street, people having the best of times. Spilling out all types of bars and stuff. And then we hear someone on a loudspeaker from inside, as we're walking by this club, and we hear them say, if you're a fan of, shoot, what's her name? What is the singer's name? Oh. We're walking by and we hear someone say, if you're a fan of Ethel Cain or Doche, and Lily's like a huge fan of Ethel Cain, she told me about her, not as much my thing, but Doche, of course, is very much my thing. So we were both like, what? And we both turned at the same time and just went into this club like, alright, there's gonna be some sort of show. Drag show.

But not featuring actual Doachie. No. Featuring drag. And we knew this once we started paying the cover charge. This is a drag show. They're lip syncing to these songs, which Ethel Cain is an interesting thing to lip sync to. Low tempo. And of course, years ago, probably our most epic Valentine date was going to Hamburger Mary's, the two of us, to watch a preeminent drag show, it was amazing. It actually led to me going drag on the Mythical Society.

I don't know if going drag is the proper nomenclature, but it's just dragging. I'm dragging. I dragged it. I drug. I drug it. I drug it and many people dug it. Anyway, so we go in there and we see all types of performances, including, but not limited to, one queen dressed up as Ariel, the little mermaid. And she was, you know how Ariel like pulls things out of her, not really, it was more danceable than that. The legs came apart. I do remember that. Okay. You know? In a way that a mermaid cannot do. I think that's kind of important for the show. Yeah?

Yeah. The legs can come apart. They can wrap around poles. We were just having a blast. I mean, it's like, it's over the top entertainment. I love it. And then afterward, Ariel comes up to me, starts talking to me. Ariel's a long time mythical fan. I was like, you're my favorite tonight anyway. I definitely liked you a lot better than the one that brought out a baby. You don't have to do that. And it was like, there was a witch, but then there was another person that was like, with a baby, and then the baby, she was doing laundry,

but then she drowned the baby in the laundry bucket, and it was like very dark and weird and wild. Is this an Ethel Cain song? Wild. Honestly, I don't know. Okay, because that makes sense. I don't think so. I don't think so. Was it a Dochey song? It was that, go to sleep, you little baby.

Oh, from Oh Brother? From Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? It's like, you never know what you're gonna get. Wow, I guess sometimes you gotta go dark so you can go light. That's right. And she didn't have, I'm talking about toast now, she, it was not Lily's birthday, but they made it her birthday and she went on stage. Oh! And everybody sang to her. So it was a special night.

Oh. I mean, Lily and I, we will find our way into a drag show. It'll just happen. It's like a magnet for us. It's just so funny. We had a great time. That was it. Nothing went sideways. Nothing to complain about. All good. But I recommend walking around West Hollywood sometimes. You never know who... a bunch of friendly people. It's been a while since I did that, but I did notice there's quite a few Mythical Beasts down there. Mm-hmm, I love that. The,

I'm assuming you watched, I mean, I don't know when this is coming out, but I know you watched the Grammys. I watched, I watched a good amount of it. I felt like the fact that I had been properly introduced to Dochi before she had her moment, I appreciated that. It seemed to me that in a positive way, there's much more live performances than the last time I watched it.

Am I wrong about that? It felt that way to me too, yeah. They stacked performances. This feels like something that is viable, unlike the other times that I've watched it. Yeah, yeah. Because I was like, Trevor Noah's not really trying too hard.

Right. He knows that it's not about him. He's just like, I'm gonna pump these people up, say one little line. I don't think Trevor was ever on stage. I didn't see the beginning. It's interesting, like right from the start, I mean the fires kinda made it,

and he kept talking about how tonally it was interesting and like emotional and was kinda going to lots of different places. But yeah, they made the choice for him to pretty much never be on stage. So it wasn't, it had a different vibe. He's just kind of moving things along. I just thought that was a good choice.

I like him and I liked him. And then they let everybody in like a category perform really quickly. Yeah. Vincent Boone won a lot of people over, a lot of ladies over. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Interesting. Is he country or what? Now I know that's a nebulous term. I don't think so. I mean, I only know that one song, but I don't think so. I didn't know, I don't know him at all. So I was like, well, could he? And he has a mustache. Maybe that's why I'm asking the question.

I don't think he's country. Okay. But I don't know any other music. Okay, well, let's get into some questions so we can solve problems. Mm-hmm. Hey, Rhett and Link, I'm Charlotte, and I would love your advice on something. I just met a conspiracy theorist for the first time ever and I'm not really sure how to handle it. He's like one of my neighbors in my apartment building and I, you know, will see each other in the building and like have a little chat and small talk and

whatever but recently we got into a longer conversation where he revealed that he believes that Earth is flat and believes in something called the Tartarian era where like ancient civilizations like had wireless connection through the ether or something, I don't know. And I thought he was joking at first but then I quickly realized he was like dead serious and I didn't really know how to respond. I sort of tried to challenge him with some science, but he would just shoot it down. And he basically believes that scientists and the government

are lying to us. So I'm just not really sure how to handle this or respond. He said, hey, look into it. And next time I see you, let me know what you think. And yeah, I'm just not really sure what to respond, he said, hey, look into it, you know, and next time I see you, let me know what you think. And yeah, I'm just not really sure what to say, because I'm definitely going to run into him again, inevitably. So yeah, let me know what you think. Thanks. Wow. Now, when we first moved here, did you not have a conspiracy theorist neighbor at the apartment next to you?

In Los Feliz? I think he was in the... Yeah, he had like a... I don't remember what he was into. He had papers on the wall. He hung things over his balcony so that you could see it from the street. Anybody who does that, he's already. Like posters? Or like banners?

Like he would write something on a sheet and it would hang over for weeks at a time. Yeah. You know, that's the kind of person. The Earth is as flat as this sheet. I don't know what he was, I don't know what he thought. You didn't engage. I didn't engage.

He was, I mean, I don't really remember if I even talked to him, you know, I just kinda knew that he thought. You didn't engage. I didn't engage. I mean, I don't remember if I even talked to him. I just kinda knew that he had the thing up there. She has engaged and he said, check it out, let me know what you think. Well, I love this stuff, by the way. You know I love this stuff. So you're jealous of her.

Well, I have so many thoughts, but the main thing I wanna tell you is before we get into how we can help Charlotte, is I don't know why, I don't know what it is about the way my mind works that I'm just attracted to people talking about this kind of stuff. So you know what this guy believes. Oh yeah, the Tartarian stuff.

What is that? I don't, well. Okay, tell me what you're gonna tell. So the thing that is the most fascinating thing to me, and what you gonna tell? So the thing that is the most fascinating thing to me, so I don't, well first of all, I can't stand just to have a conspiracy theory just blabber on about stuff. What I like is when people who actually have,

who are following like rational thinking and critical thinking and facts are like debunking it. Like I like to watch that kind of thing. Okay. And there's a guy who has a YouTube channel that's called Professor Dave Explains, I think is the name of it. And his style is... It's not really the way I would go about it in terms of like...

He basically is just unapologetically, caustically just kind of taking these guys down which is very fun to watch but he just doesn't pull he doesn't pull any punches which again there's a time and place for that so I am in support of that I don't know everything that the guy thinks and you know I'm not saying I endorse all of his opinions it's just the videos that I've watched where he is like taking down flat earthers are some of my favorite, okay? He gets irritated with them? Yeah, and he's like a legit, like, scientist, professor, and he just has no, but like, he's doing the work

because to go into these guys' minds and their philosophy and their whole approach and like systematically break it down, it takes so much patience and so much time. So I really appreciate the service that he is doing. But something absolutely fascinating happened in the Flat Earth community. And I don't know if this has happened before,

I don't follow it closely enough to know, but it's just, it blew me away. So. You're not gonna talk about Kyrie Irving, are you? No, that's old news. So obviously the idea that the Earth is flat has been around for a long time. For most of us, that got corrected when we realized it wasn't flat, but there's still quite a few people who believe that it is flat. And you know, in the age of dis and misinformation, it has grown. This is becoming popular.

Like people that you would have thought are intelligent and relatively informed are suddenly like, I think they're at this flat, which it would have been like what? 20 years ago and now it's not that uncommon. So there's this movement of people and there's enough of them that they have like organizations and they've got spokespeople and there's personalities and there's people with YouTube channels and stuff.

And I don't know the circumstances, but somebody who had enough money and enough interest in this subject decided, well, people who believe that the Earth is flat, they believe that, you know, Antarctica is an ice wall. So if you were to take the Earth, and this is like, here's the globe and here's Antarctica, but if you were to like take the whole thing and flatten it out, so every time everyone goes away from the center to the south, they all run into ice. But they're just running into, Earth is a disk, right? And you're running into an ice wall. I may be messing some of this up.

Sounds like Game of Thrones. Yeah, but one of the things that has to be true according to the flat Earth theory is that there's not a place on Earth where, especially at the ice wall, the south part, where the sun would be up for 24 hours, right? The sun has to do whatever the sun does. I don't know where the sun goes on the other side of the disk. I don't know how it works. Or the sun is on the firmament. I don't know how it works. But they believe that the sun cannot be up for 24 hours. But

obviously because of the way that the Earth is tilted on its axis, there are times during our winter or our summer in which the sun never goes down in the north and there are times during the winter that the, or in winter that the sun never goes down in the south. So sensibly, you could take someone who believed in the flat Earth theory to the South Pole, take them to Antarctica,

and let them observe the sun not going down for 24 hours, and it would debunk their theory. Or would it? So this guy paid to have at least two flat earthers go to Antarctica, he paid for a trip. Oh really? And all these flat earthers. Hold on, the guy, the doctor...

Not Professor Dave. Not Professor Dave. Professor Dave made a video about this. Gotcha. Some other guy, I don't know who it is. He paid to send them down there, hey, just look for yourself. And they were thinking, yes, this is what I will not see when I go down there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And of course, they constantly think they're being tricked. Right, like the Flat Earth community thinks that everything is deceptive. And so they're like- What a way to live. Tracking the flight to make sure that it's going from like Patagonia to, you know, Antarctica the whole time and the guys are in the plane with their compasses

making sure that it's pointing south the whole time. Like, don't fly us to someplace that ain't actually Antarctica. The whole thing was documented? Yeah, but I'm just watching Dave's video about the video. I didn't watch the whole video. And so they're on this livestream and the sun's up for 24 hours, obviously, because that's how the world works. And then basically they just start saying,

well, you know, sometimes you just have to admit that you are wrong. Not about the earth being flat, mind you, but about the sun being up for 24 hours. It's like something about our theory must be wrong. Yeah. Right? But then the wildest thing happens in the Flat Earth community.

All the people in the Flat Earth community start saying that these guys who went down there are paid shills and that they are traitors. And so there's this whole thing about... So they're acting, they're counter agents. Yeah, they got paid off or whatever. Okay. And then there's this whole thing about how they're saying,

these guys didn't actually go to Antarctica. This is all done on green screen. And the way that they said it was, the guy who was filming had his chroma key thing turned on because when he used, he just has like the chroma key setting on his camera turned on all the time. So like anything that was green was like showing up as clear, not being there.

Except the background, which was Antarctica. And so they made this whole, so then the guys who went down there who were being accused of being shills have to make a series of videos explaining how they are not on a green screen. So they've got drones and they've got two drones and they're like passing the drones by each other and they're on two different live streams and then another guy takes all of the footage from the different drones and the different live streams and puts it side by side and he's like, guys, they're actually there. But all of this to say, Charlotte, these people

are not interested in the truth. They are not interested in the truth. That was my question, is what do you know is, what are they anchored to? Like... Anti-establishment. Okay, because I know from a religious standpoint what I was anchored to. Like... Anti-establishment. Okay, because I know from a religious standpoint what I was anchored to. That's like you hold on to cert... When you get like counter-evidence, and you don't want to... that disrupts your theory or that debunks it, you just want to say, well, there's gotta be another explanation, right? Because you're anchored to something, like we were.

So they're anchored to anti-establishment? Paranoia? Well, there's a lot of great books about this, like why people believe crazy things or something. I think that the main thing is that there is just a belief that the official narrative about everything is a deception, right? And so it doesn't matter that when you start thinking

about what would be required in order to pull this deception off and what would be the motivation and then obviously you're observing things that prove that this is wrong, but you can't accept it. It's kind of what we talked about when we were talking about this whole thing about the direct energy weapons with the fires. It's like critical thinking didn't get you there.

And so when you talk, Charlotte, when you talk about I'm engaging him with science, it's like, no, no, no, no, no. Because you're just, all you're doing in his mind is you're just reg all you're doing in his mind is you're just regurgitating the status quo, the narrative that you've been taught. Do your own research, right?

And there's this, so what do you do? Because what do you do? I mean, first of all, I just think that we kind of have to think about, if you think about your kids, you've got to teach them critical thinking. We're really bad at that, right? We're really bad at thinking about this critically

because the thing is, these people aren't, it's not intelligence, it's not a question of intelligence. A lot of these guys are smarter than the average person. Their ability to immediately silence you with some point, Like their ability to like immediately like silence you with some point is like the average person is like I can't argue with this. It's just I actually believe what the people that we've, as a society we have selected these people to study this full-time and this is what they have discovered and we trust them. That's a certain type of person. That's me, right? I'm like, I'm not smart enough.

It's like, I think I'm smart enough to sort of evaluate the Flat Earth thing and be like, there's a lot of things that don't really match up here. But I think that it's not a question of breaking out the science. I think, first of all, I think it's good to be friends. That's the thing I'll say. Yeah, I'm interested in finding a way to be friends, and I think there might have to be some

non-derogatory entertainment that you find. It's like, when you disagree with people that are your friends, there's some gentle ribbing that can go on. You know? I think it's like once you establish, listen, I'm not with you on this, and I, let's, you know, next time you, and then you establish it, it's like I don't, I'm not gonna try to change your mind,

you don't try to change my mind. But next time I see you, I'm just gonna say, you walked off the edge of the earth yet? You hit the ice wall? Yeah, I think that ultimately what I'm saying is- Just have a little fun with it. I think that maintaining the relationship if you can, I mean, if you don't feel safe or whatever,

I don't know the situation, but I'm just saying that, I don't think it's, I think we have to be able to maintain a friendship with people who believe crazy things because it's like, it's very easy. We all have the ability. I have believed a lot of crazy things. I still probably do believe a lot of crazy things. It's like believing crazy things can't be a prerequisite, you know, for not being

friends with somebody. I like that. But I think that, I don't know, if you wanted to have like a real, like if I was close friends with somebody who believed this, then I mean the question I would ask is like, you know, what, how is what you believe falsifiable? Like what? Falsifiable. Falsifiable.

What can I show you that's gonna make you change your mind? Because most of these things are unfalsifiable. Most conspiracy theories are unfalsifiable. Most, and like honestly, like most, most faiths, religious faiths are unfalsifiable. It's like you, it doesn't make faith wrong. It just means that like, is there something I could show you

that would change your mind about this? Like what would it take? Is there something that you can be shown? Because if you say that if I go down to Antarctica, if somebody pays me to go down to Antarctica, the 35, $40,000 that it takes to get to Antarctica, and I see that the sun doesn't go down, would that make you stop believing?

Well, it didn't make those guys stop believing. They just think that they've gotta now adjust their theory. It's like the people who are sure that the world is going to end on a very particular date. When it never happens, according to the prophecy of that particular cult, do the people, does the cult dissolve? Never. There's never. It never dissolves because the cult does not exist because of truth. The cult exists because of belonging. The cult exists because of belonging. The cult exists because of all these other psychological dynamics that make people feel

like they have purpose, you know? And I think that's a big part of this thing, is it's like, you know what? To some extent, we have been lied to. Sometimes the official narratives are deceptive. You know, sometimes there are institutions can't be trusted, but that, but what that turns into is that like,

all institutions are corrupt. The, you know, the status quo narrative is always wrong, and we have to develop these theories. Sometimes people get in so deep and there's just, there's nothing. Like, if there's nothing you can do to take somebody if there's Nothing you could show them It's like right there's another video of they did the thing where the guys you know because technically if you

if the earth is curved If earth is flat then if you are six feet off the ground that there's a light that's six feet off the ground and then a few miles away, there's like. A receiver. A pole with a hole in it, and you can see like the light come through at the same height. Mm-hmm.

I'm messing up the details in the distances, but essentially there was a flat earther who was out there and saw that like, oh shit, like it's not coming through because the earth is curved. And he like questioned him. He didn't question his idea. He questioned the methods.

He was something must have, I must have screwed something up. Yeah. Because it's not about like wanting to actually know. I think it is important to know this so that you're not just gonna try to deconvert or convert somebody, you know? Unless you are qualified, like the guy that you shouted out, I think it's just a mission of like be kind and amused. Like, I think there's some delicate place in your, and it's not gonna have to be a deep friendship,

but I like where you're going with this. It's like, listen, there's people who, we're all different and we all got our things that we can discover about each other. That'd be like, are you serious? This is part of who you are, part of your belief system or your worldview or your practice or whatever.

It's like, you know, let's find a way to be kind, yet I think for your own sanity, amused. Lighten it up a little bit. And if you're gonna talk about it. And then move on. If you're gonna talk about it, ask questions. Don't argue. Like don't argue.

Don't bring up the points that he's already heard. Like ask questions. Like let the theory implode. Let the fact that he kinda probably doesn't If you're into that. Really know, like, the Tartarian thing, I'm not even gonna, I can't think that's how you say it. Like, I don't even wanna begin on that one, man.

It's fucking crazy. I mean, like, just give me the gist. Like, what? Pre-existing civilization that- You sell networks. Yeah, like an advanced- Ethernet works. An advanced civilization that was around and built like, built everything, I think,

built a lot of stuff that's still here. I've only heard, I've only only heard a little bit of that one. Okay. That's the best we can do. I like leaving it with the cautious friendship. If we've learned anything over the past decade plus of running a business, it's that hiring the right people quickly is very important.

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could guess where I'm from. I'll give you just a second. Wow. I was just wondering to guess where I'm from. From, from. From. I'm from. I mean, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is a southern American

accent. Where is she from? I mean, I still feel like I've heard many North Carolinians who sound like this. I've got a guess on this one. I don't think it's... I don't have a guess yet. I don't think it's deep south, because I'm hearing things that I heard growing up. And I'm a steese. Uh oh. Get it out, man. See, I'm getting what you're laying down, man.

No, you're getting out. You're getting out. I'm spewing it out. On my sleeve or something. I agree with that, by the way. Tennessee, Kentucky. Kentucky is what I was gonna say. Yeah, I think we're in that area. It could be South Carolina. I think we're really in that around North Carolina kind of zone. I'm gonna say Tennessee. So, unpause it. Let's see what happens. I think we're really in that around North Carolina kinda zone.

I'm gonna say Tennessee. So, unpause it, let's see what happens. Okay, I'm from Alabama. Oh, shit. Hope you guessed it. Love y'all, bye. But Northern Alabama or Southern Alabama? Cause I feel like that's, we need to, if you're gonna give us your accent,

you gotta give me more specifics. I feel like we gotta like. need to... if you're gonna give us your accent, you gotta give me more specific. I feel like we gotta like... You gotta give us a city or something. Well, we need to go back... like we need to get better at this. We've been all over the place. Well, I feel like if it's northern Alabama, that's not far... we're not that far off. Well, okay. Alright. That's fun. Yeah, keep it going. Keep it going. Anywhere in the world.

Yeah. But the Southern accents, we got a special place in our heart. We're horrible at it though. We've gotta like, we'll watch some videos or like, start paying attention to what the people sound like. Well, if we get enough of these, again, you can call us at 1-888- EarPod1.

We can learn. Let's learn by doing, not by researching. Yeah, yeah, right. You know? That's it, that's the ticket right there. Hit it. Hi Rhett and Link, my name is Leslie from Upstate New York.

So I teach first grade, and I love, as I know Rhett does as well, I love to tell my children outlandish lies. I love to tell my class lies that have nothing to do with their education. Some examples of lies I have told them, I told them that I lived inside of our smart board, I told them that my father was Santa Claus, and my favorite one and the one that they actually believed is that my middle name is Mammoth. So my question to you Wren Link are what are some other fun harmless lies I can tell my first grade students. Thank you guys. Love you guys. Bye. Love this. You're a great teacher. She sounds like she's from

upstate New York. Yeah I'm gonna say upstate New York. I couldn't have said that. That was like devoid of accent. I am excited for you. The best way to teach kids is to lie about things. Give them that skill of discernment, of critical thinking. They gotta parse. By lying to them. By lying to them.

They gotta parse the truth from the lies, and it's good to erode a little trust in our teachers. No, I get it, I think you're in a good lane with like, I'm related to Santa Claus and my middle name is mayonnaise. This is why I think this is acceptable. Now, I have been a proponent of lying to children, I will say that. Your own especially.

Especially my own. But I will say. Are you backtracking on this? Well no, I'm just saying, when my kids were coming up man, like when my kids were little, it was before everybody believed the earth was flat man. Like I'm saying that like,

now I will say my kids don't think the earth is flat, my kids pretty much know the earth is a sphere. Right. It's never been in question for them. So I can't say that they're prone to conspiracy theories. They're not. But I do think that you're taking the right angle on this, which is make the lies about yourself.

If you start making the lies about anything out in the world, anything external, then you start mixing them up a little bit and they're gonna be like, the reason I think the earth is flat is because my teacher told me that all bats had the ability to communicate pathetically or whatever. Yeah, that might embarrass them. So I love this stuff about living in the white board,

the smart board and Santa Claus being your dad. What about this? Yeah. She tells her pupils that she has a six legged pet deer Okay. And the two extra legs are just up and out, like field goals almost. Okay.

So walk around. It's not, there's still the antlers if it's antlered, but it's a six-legged deer, but two of the legs are just decoration, basically. I like that. There's blood flow in them. Okay. But they're locked and they don't really do that. There's blood flow in them. Okay. But they're locked and they don't really do anything.

They kind of waggle around. They're not, they don't articulate. Yeah, and she's named it Sputnik. Oh, well, see, now you're getting a little bit, now you're getting into like world history. Well. Space history. Okay, his name is. Maybe it rhymes with Sputnik.

Butt-pick. Butt pic. Butt pic? Yeah. Don't be talking to kids about butt pics. Okay, well, I'm just, this is the first thing I can think of. All right. I've got a really good one. Okay.

I think you should tell your students, I'm actually not your teacher. I'm just another first grader who happened to be here on the first day and it seemed like somebody should start teaching. I've failed a lot. And then be like, I've been held back. And then be like, and today, I'm taking the day off.

So anyone who wants to take my place today can and then just sit down and see what happens. That's fun. Yeah. There you go. And then you get to watch one of them get up and teach. I'm just one of you guys. Yeah. That's good.

Yeah. But I would like to see that six-legged deer. Yeah. It's gonna be hard, I mean, he's camera shy. You know, people come over, he runs and hides. But your thing, oh yeah, that's an experiment, social experiment. It's like Children of the Corn.

And maybe she's an English teacher and she can get him to read that. Children of the Corn, isn't that. Children of the Corn? Isn't that the ones where the kids? What? Yeah, it is Children of the Corn. I don't remember many of the details. What about she went to a doctor and there was a,

there was a baby squirrel in her ear. All of mine are about forest animals. These are pretty harmless, I like that. Yeah. Mine might cause a problem. The tail was bushy, but that was the hardest part to get out. Okay. She's fine.

That might strike some fear into the kids. Next time they're thinking to feed a little squirrel at the park, you know. Oh no, it might crawl in my ear. Why are you saying that? Because my teacher had a squirrel in her ear when she was my age. Might do a little damage.

Is that good? I think it's pretty good. Okay. Get one of those whisper 2000s off of the internet. Yeah, earphones and then the thing where you can hear, you can target hearing long distances. And then tell them that it is a thought reading device. But don't, and then be like,

point it at an individual child and then just write something down in a notebook. Oh my God, that's tremendous. That's breaking your rule, because that's not about the, that's not about her. It's tough for me to maintain the balance, man. Right. When given this prompt. Yeah, you've gone off the deep end.

I would just wanna have so much fun. What about, she wants met a ferret that could say the word crikey. It was an Australian ferret. Okay, it's not as good as your first two. Okay. They're getting worse. Yeah, because I'm trying to stick with forest animals. Is a ferret a forest animal?

I mean, yeah, I mean, if it's wild, it's in the forest. Forest, not in a desert. I got 11 toes, but I don't wanna show you. You don't have to prove it. I had it removed. I had my 11th toe removed and I had it ground up and I eat a little bit of it in a smoothie every morning. How about that?

I think you can make up world records. I think it's probably pretty safe. Okay. You hold. The problem is, didn't you have to do it? So, go for it. No, when she was younger. She could do it when she was younger. Oh, I mean, you have to make up the world record

right now to really. I hold the world record for the most ferrets ever in a backpack. Oh, I like that. Your grandma, her grandmother, worked in a shoe factory and made, she was discovered by Shaquille O'Neal and now she only makes shoes for Shaquille O'Neal, and now she only makes shoes for Shaquille O'Neal. Oh.

How about that? I like that. Shack shoes. Yeah, they're big, you know? Gotta have somebody on them all the time. It's kinda like maintaining the paint on the Golden Gate Bridge. They're constantly doing it.

How about one time when you were a little girl, you were walking home from school. Good. And you thought you heard somebody whispering in the woods saying, come here, come here, come here little girl. Yeah. And you knew that you should not ever follow a voice

from the woods saying, come here little girl. And so you walked in the opposite direction into the woods across the street. And you kept hearing the voice behind you the whole time. Yeah. But you just kept walking. Yeah. And then you came to a cave.

Oh. Three caves. One, two, three? One, two, three. And you did any, mini, miny, moe and you went in the cave three. You went all the way into cave three and there was a family of hobbits

that lived in there, and they were in the middle of an argument about how you pronounce the word Marriott, because they were thinking about going on a vacation, and they were making a reservation at a Marriott. Because they were thinking about going on a vacation. And they were making a reservation at a Marriott. But they kept calling it... Marriott. Marriott.

There was the wife Hobbit was saying Marriott, and the husband Hobbit was saying Marriott. And it was getting really ugly, and the little boy Hobbit, the son, was like, does it really matter? Does it really matter what we call it? Can't we just go on a vacation? We can make the reservation, it feels like we can just go on this vacation,

it doesn't matter what it's called. And then the dad says, if we get there, and we check in, and I accidentally say, it's so great to be here at the Marriott, and I'm wrong. Or your mother, for God's sake, says, Marriott, I can't remember who said what, but you know what I mean.

What's gonna happen? Do we get our deposit back when they kick us out? We can't afford insurance for this trip. Right. And you said, how about you do everything exactly the same, but stay at a height. I was thinking Ramada.

And then they all three turned and looked at you and said, that's an excellent idea. And then you backed away slowly, went back to the road, and walked home. Tell him that. Thanks for hanging out with us. Calling us. Boy, it feels special to us when you call us. I'm gonna tell you the

number again. 1-888- Ear Pod 1! Glad to have you back. I'm gonna be thinking about that. Always go to the third cave. Never talk to strangers unless you're stumbling up on them. Right. That's right. Hi Rhett and Link. I really just wanted to tell you guys, I just love your laughs. Both of you.

Especially Link when he gets a little crazy or I'll watch some older episodes where he's just hollering a good old laugh. It just brings me so much joy and you guys are just so cute.