Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Link's Dangerous Drive in Ireland | Ear Biscuits Ep. 479

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

If you make it through the first 17 minutes, you’ll hear all about Link’s trip to Ireland! In this episode, Link talks about driving in Ireland, the magical wonder that is professional Irish Sheepherding, as well as their voyages to the smaller Irish Islands. Also, Rhett has quite the throat tickle, so don’t skip over that. Please. Leave us a voicemail at 1-888-EARPOD-1 for a chance to be featured on the show! Get a $75 job credit at https://indeed.com/ears Download the Klarna app or learn more at https://www.klarna.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And I'm Rhett. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we're back. We're back. We're really back. Regularly scheduled programming, regularly. Weekly. Length. Regularly lengthed.

Yeah. Programming. Yeah, we got back from our trips. My regular link. Our breaks. And today, you're going to tell us about your break. And I'm going to tell you about the break in my voice for a second. You really struggling, man.

A lesser man. You're not supposed to come back sounding like a struggle. Well, I didn't come back this way. This happened this morning. I don't know what it is. A lesser man may not do a podcast in this condition. Listen, I'll do all the talking today. I'm going to talk about my chair.

That's why I'm glad you're going first. I've got a tea and I've got a water. I roll in this morning, Rhett's already at his desk, and he's like making, he's like, hickama. Yeah, say hickama. Say hickama. Yeah, and say it with more force. I don't know if that's going to help me.

You think it's going to hurt you? Why are you so resistant? Well, here's the thing. I'm trying to help you here. The hickama trick. It has one of those things in it where if I start coughing, I feel like I'm going to vomit. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you start, like, that is the other one of those. Those, like, you feel like you're going to turn into a grandma. But that's a TikTok, waiting to happen, man. I don't know what it is. I'll get to find out later. If you turn that into a TikTok, right? Yeah, TikTok does not, like, very fond of vomit, but I can, like, make it look funny.

Wake up, man. We've talked about this before. Come on. I can, like, make it with, like, bodily functions. They don't like rainbows or something. They don't like talks of... Oh. They don't like talks of Dukies and things like that on TikTok.

Yeah, there's lots of things you can't say on TikTok. Well, I'm disappointed. And you TikTok. But maybe I'll be okay. I don't know. I don't know. I think, I don't know. It's just like I start talking.

And it's like, it's right. It's a tickle, man. It's a tickle. You got a tickle. But what causes it? I went to Ireland. We will talk about that. I was fine this way.

We're not going, I'm going to let him get this out of his system. Well. But I went to Ireland. I'm going to talk about that. I thought it was fine. For the majority of this episode. But back to your tickle. Yeah, yeah.

I'll get through it. Maybe I won't. Maybe I won't. I don't know. Maybe I won't make it. But I'll be quiet for most of the time. I would like to know what one is supposed to do for a tickle. I thought a tea would help.

We don't have that throat coat anymore. You're not drinking it deep enough. It might be in the... Oh, you got one too? Yeah, you got one too. I know, I got one too. It might be in the medic... Now I'm getting one.

Yeah, you're feeling... Oh, it's in the wardrobe room? Not in wardrobe, in one of the lockers. I'll just ask the car. I'm nasty, man, don't be drinking that. But it numbs your throat and your throat. Just stop sending message to your frame. You're fine, dude.

I'm trying not to think about it, but then all of a sudden it's just like, it takes my vocal cords and grabs them and says, ah, no, go. Maybe hold out a long note, a comfortable note. And you don't have to lean right into the mic. Comfortable. What is that a syllable?

Just say, ah. Uh. Lower? Lower. Lower. Lower note. I found it. I found it, I found the little spot.

Now, stay on that. Let me go. Let me go back. We're developing a technique here. Past it. No. It's in different places. It's dynamic. You're pushing it out. You aspirated a little bit.

You think I'm moving a piece of food up my throat? Out of your lungs, yeah. It's not in the lungs. It's right here. Let me see if I can keep grabbing. Well, the throat is the top of the lungs. If I can keep breathing it. Breathing it. I went to Ireland. Nobody's going to be able to hang all long enough to hear about it.

Oh, it's working. Ah! Ah! Ha! Next week I'll be talking about Ireland. Ha! Ha! Ha!

Ha! Still there. Want me to get you? There is throw crow. I can go make you one. Is there some throat coat? Yeah, I'll go make you one. That's not, it's not gonna help.

I think it will, I need to have three, I need to have three mugs here. Unless you're willing to drink deeper than you are, it's not gonna work. To drink deeper? You have, like when you gargle and you hold a deep note and it goes deeper? Link, when you drink, it goes all the way through it.

I would cross camera. No, you're trying, you need to. Jenna's crossing cameras. That's fine. No, this is above the windpipe. It is above the windpipe. Did you gargle? I, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's above the windpipe. So it's in the passage where both air and food go and drink. It's not below the windpipe where it would be, I could be exfixated. It's up here. You could probably get your finger to it. I think maybe get like if we have a prod of some kind. Get a finger to it. We have a multitude of spoons. I don't want to do that. I think throat coat will help because it'll numb it. I need an herbal numbing. Just wet your finger and then send it back there. We definitely can't put that on TikTok.

Me inducing, I can't start, I can't do that. You're not in, you're, you're, it's a tickle, scratch it. I will vomit on the table if I do that. I will vomit the little fig bar, it was the only thing I could think of to eat. Thought maybe a fig would have a soothing motion, a soothing effect. I don't think it would, it's kind of rough.

You know what, once you just talk about your trip, maybe it'll just go away. Maybe it'll just go away. I don't know how bodies work. I actually... Well, I know what's going to happen. Jen is going to come back with a tea, and then we'll be back to this.

Yeah, but, I mean, think of all the things that have to happen. You have to get water hot. You got to put the tea in. Oh, well, if you know how to do it, why didn't you go do it? So I could be here and support you. I need to support you in your trip. There it is again. It'll go away.

It'll go away. I will say, except when you said, there it is again, we didn't know that. We didn't know it. You go back and listen to the tape, my voice stopped in the middle of a word. But I'm saying it's fine. We didn't really care.

We didn't mind. Okay. Well, I thought we were trying to deal with this together. I thought you were in this with me. I think if you hold a note, maybe you change the volume. If you rattle it out, it'll either go down or it'll come up.

I think maybe we're misclassifying it. I don't think it's a piece of something that's stuck. I think it's... I think it is an irritated spot that is... I don't know what caused it. I really don't know what caused it. It could be of... You don't need to know.

Idiopathic. What is the word? She's already back. Idiopathic origin? Yeah, yeah. Is that... I feel like such an idio. Idiot...

Look at this. I got three black mugs. Yay! Yes. Okay. Three black mugs. See how they... they drink three black mugs see if they help he took a sip of green tea and that didn't help

he took a sip of water and I don't know how the song went he's now gonna try some throat coat in a you got you eat a fig newton in a YouTube mug three black mug that was weak man but it's hot hot as hell man it's just I was like okay I'm gonna I'm gonna cauterize the whole inside of my throat so I can make it through this. That's how committed I am to this. Again, a lesser man, we go back home, put on a TV show.

Not this man. What show would you put on? Because I refuse to talk about Ireland until this is completely done. You wanna talk about what I've been watching lately? I just, I think you need to keep talking, yeah. I've binged friends and neighbors while on break, but I'm not done with it.

You recommend? Yeah, I think so. Okay. I wouldn't, yeah, I wouldn't say, Hardy recommendation, but I would say solid recommendation. I don't even know anything about it. John Hambone, isn't it? It's a comedy?

No. I mean, it's got funny elements. What's it on? What channel? Apple plus. Okay. Okay. It follows the formula of middle-aged white man runs into problem

and turns to crime to solve it. So you've got Breaking Bad, said the template. Ozart revisited it to great effect. And now you've got friends and neighbors. Okay. I recommend it. On the plane ride back, I started watching The Penguin. Ah, the Penguin, yes.

Penguin, only because I wanted to see if Colin Farrell pulled off this amazing performance. Of course he did, right? Yeah, he's pretty amazing. And he's Irish. Ah, you felt like... That was your research. And this was flying in the face of my commitment to... Well, I don't know if it was flying in the face of, but it was a soft violation of the commitment that I made to myself.

to not watch, to place a complete moratorium on my personal viewing private public in any manner of superhero films. Oh. So, I'm done. I told myself I was done a year ago, and here I am saying that somehow Lily, she kept finagling it and then there was one night towards the end of our trip where we didn't have something to do we had a window of time and lo and behold there was the theater and they had the iMacs tickets and so we watched Superman i watched Superman on my break James guns Superman yes and uh it's it's fine but i just am so sick and tired of like cataclysmic

city's being destroyed type of crap. Yeah. I'm not going to argue with you on this. It doesn't even matter if it's good. It doesn't, I don't even care if Pedro Pascal is the future of Marvel. I can't go there.

And that was the one that I was so tempted by and I think, and I probably would have fallen for it. But I made my exception with Superman and it has nothing, nothing against Superman, the movie. He's super really a lot of these. It's a good movie.

It's a good, fine movie. but I'm just not going to allow myself to do it anymore and then what do I do? I get on the plane and I watch The Penguin but it wasn't a movie and it's really more of a crime drama Okay, it seems like you're you know, coping a little bit.

I was only watching on the plane and then I got off the plane and I was like, I'm not even going to finish this and I had three episodes so I finished it. Oh yeah, I can't leave it hanging. And I will say if you don't have a moratorium on television superhero adjacent stuff

and you like gritty crime, gangster films or series. I'd recommend The Penguin. And here's why. Because it's really well written. The story, the characters and the way that you, the way that the story unfolds and that the characters, the way you get to know these characters, I won't say anything that's spoiler-ish, but I could.

It's that kind of thing. So there's things right for spoilage, mild spoilage, my type of spoilage, you know. I think the thing I don't like... So I'm recommending it... It gets better as it goes along. And you might agree with this. It gains momentum through the whole thing. Is action.

What? What about it? I don't like it. Oh, you don't like action? What do you mean? Let me be specific about this. I don't like superaction. And I think this is what, whether or not you believe this to be true or not,

I think you will after I finish this argument. Okay, so now you're talking about superhero action. You're not talking about like John Wick. Yeah, I'm not talking about John Wick. Okay, good. I'm talking about, like you said, the city being destroyed. I watch Superman. I thought the same thing.

I also like the underlying message of Superman and what it was a commentary upon. I like, I like that. Yeah. But I like that. The, the packaging and the, like, the villain, the, what I would call the uncomplicated villain, too, is another thing.

It's just like somebody who's just evil. Right. And can deliver a speech after speech about it. Who's just an asshole. I'm just like, this isn't, this is not as interesting as it could be. But it is, but again, it's the world. Now, the, the, uh, it's the world, what? It's the world of superheroes.

Okay, yeah. I mean, do you remember Captain Planet? The guy. Actually, no, I've never seen it. Well, so on Captain Planet, I don't even remember the villain, but he was just a guy who polluted the earth. And it seemed like he woke, he woke up every day just to want to pollute the earth. Yeah. You know, it wasn't complicated.

It was just, I like pollution. That's the other reason that the penguin is so good is because no, there are very few characters that are actually good. So you find yourself depending on who's, what, which story that you're concentrating on in that particular moment or part of the series, you find yourself gaining understanding of the evil and it's complicated. the human condition. Yeah. But when the, but. And you're pulling for them until you, until they go too far or you find out new information. And then you, you pull for another person who's just as bad in another way.

Yes. It's very. I like that. So. But I'm talking about the destruction of the city and like the city splitting apart. Spoiler alert. The city splits apart. Who cares?

Um, what I'm saying is that it's not really happening. You know what I'm saying? I don't, I can't, how can I explain this to, in a way that, uh, makes sense to me? And it's like, it's just all happening. I don't think you have to explain that it's not happening. It's all just happening in computers and something about that. Something is happening in computers. It's just all happening in computers.

So you're going full 824 now. Oh, I mean, oh, I love 824. What about the, what about the, um, ask me, what? The Rock MMA movie, that's 824. Well, I'll see it. I see A24 stuff. I see it. I see 824, I go see it.

Now, I was a bit underwhelmed by the materialists. I did not see it. I mean, though, I love Pedro. I love Pedro. He's the highlight of any production for me. Soft rom-com. But I think I was supposed to want something for

Dakota Johnson. And I didn't want that for her. So are you good now? Yeah, I don't know. But I won't say anything. My voice just cuts off in the middle of the sense. I won't say anything. You went this far without saying anything, so now I don't.

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Right now. If you're just joining us because you were smart enough to fast forward at this point, you missed some killer pontification about superhero movies. But you missed... You didn't miss anything. You didn't miss anything. We all... The only reason we did that whole thing at the beginning is because we...

We need to make these into two separate episodes instead of just one where we both talk about our trips. Neither one of us have enough that happened to talk about it for one episode. Yeah, that might be part of it. Yeah, did I, you're welcome. Throwing you under the bus. Yeah, my throat's actually fine.

Is it? Not really. Yeah, but shut up about it. Yeah. Uh, Ireland is the, uh, let's see, westernmost European country. I know this because, um, and I could be wrong about that, but I feel like I know that because I took a boat out to Skellig Michael. I'm skipping ahead here, but I just want to give you some, give you some juicy something

since you've waited so long if you didn't skip. I think Skellig means island, but there's two of them out there, the Skelligs, and they're like really scraggly and piramatic, like poiny. And there's both words.

From the mainland on a clear day, and we had the fortune of having that for the first like five days out of our, we were there for almost two, weeks, like a little over a week and a half. On the western coast, our home base was Waterville, small town, which I'll tell you more about later. But I booked this boat trip to go out to these islands that you can see. And the first island that you come to and circle is inhabited by these birds.

Oh, birds. I wish I could remember what they were called. But they're like a white gull, and it's the second highest roosting population on the planet. They just love this particular island. And they're... These birds. These birds, only these birds. Well, what's the first?

I think it's like off the coast of Africa or something. And it's just rock. It's basically just rock. And they're like roosts. All over this thing. Flying all over it and duching and it's it was quite a pungent scent after an hour boat ride. You can make yourself like it if you try. Some people are kidding.

That's where the Irish do. No inhabitants on this island besides these birds. Could you imagine if you were the one guy? Birdman. Yeah, I could. But that doesn't exist. Right. Sad a little story about these birds.

They dive into the water and eat fish. Like, kerplunk, quplunk. That's very sad. And the way that they die is because they eventually blinded themselves by fishing. Well, they die doing what they love. Yeah, and seeing it less and less. It's a point where you can't see to eat because you've blinded yourself.

Well, you need to close their eyes when they hit the water. I think that it probably do, but I don't think it matters after, you know, like seven years of that. Well, we might need to buy them some little goggles. Goggles. Goggles. Goggles. I'm going to start a...

I'm going to start a go-fund-me. Bird goggles. Goggled the birds that Link can't remember the name of. It's like, what, you know... Irish bird goggles. Is it the northern Gannet? Yeah, it is. It's the northern Gannett.

The line in themselves. Left and right. They'll sign up for it. And Ireland is not the most Western Europe. Okay. Can I guess what it is? Let me put a pin in it. Because to me it is.

Someone is going to comment. Is it the Farrow Islands? No. Because to me it is. At a certain point... Maybe the mainland, but it was. Or kind of. I don't need to get stuff right, but think...

Yeah, keep fact checking me. Okay. But, as we all know, that doesn't matter. This is now the world, yeah, that's the world we live in. Right. This is AI anyway, the whole podcast, has been for the last year and a half. The second island is the main attraction. It doesn't stink.

You start to see these fluttering. It looks like they're struggling to fly, and they migrate here. How? I don't know, because when you see them fly, it's like huffing, and puffins. Same birds? Nope. A different bird,

and I think the reason why they call them that, I just figured it out, is because they huff and puff. I'm talking about puffins. Puffins, which is almost like a penguin. It's almost like a penguin. But they can fly. But it can fly.

It's a bird becoming a penguin. And it's got a beautiful orange beak. If you believe in that kind of thing. And they're super cute. And they're just swimming in the water. And when the boat came close to a group of, of some of them. They didn't take off flying

because it's too hard for them to fly. They just started like swimming hard. Yeah. So I'm seeing all of these puffins on this island with Skellick Michael, which is that...

That's who you were with? That's the name of the island. Keep tracking, man. Okay. Which is at UNESCO World Heritage Site. Because when you get close to this thing,

you can see carved into the... rock faces, climbing up 618 or 681. Those are the numbers. Six hundred and something. Okay. I have my doubts. Steps. Okay. To the top of this thing. Monks. Have carved these stepids. And then for like a century or more. I love this. They have trudged up and down this unforgiving little island and at the top they have built

a monastery but it's just these rock like flat like picture like slate rocks like you know how they're like flat but big they built

what I will call igloos or they were called like beehive huts domes they were domes but think about a slightly more pointy igloo made out of flat rocks that have stood the test of time and all types of weather and wind unforgiving unrelenting how big um big i think big enough where like maybe four people could sit in there oh they're not huge there's not like a big sanctuary it's like little huts little huts

and 180 people a day weather permitting are allowed to hike up there but you've got to book it like six months in advance and I wasn't able to do that and that's a huge regret that I have Oh, you didn't get to hike? I didn't get to hike it. What did you find out about the history of this place?

Everything I'm telling you. They were there and then they eventually moved to the mainland because I think it was less about the Vikings and more about the weather. Yeah, it was tough. But they had done it, they had been there for like a century. But that's what monks do, man. Yeah, that's what they do.

Aesthetic, not aesthetic. And it was the edge, western edge of the known world. Yeah, known to you as well. Yeah, it's the westernmost point of all land that existed, as far as I understood it. For a long time, that was true. That's what the monks thought. They went all the way out there to the edge of the world and just hunkered down in the rock beehive huts and just sat there and did their monk stuff and I if I go

back I'm gonna do that there were two tickets available but like the moment I mentioned it to people everybody was like oh I want to go I want to go and then I couldn't pick who I was gonna go with drawls drawls man so we blew it we blew it but we went around it and it was beautiful now if you're into it this is also where Luke Skywalker was found by Ray in the updated Star Wars movies. Yeah, that'll happen on computers, though. We don't care about that.

He was physically there. But he was there. He was really there. And you can see the huts are part of it. They're visible. He was in one of the huts. I don't remember. Well, I remember the huts now that you say this. And that's why they had those creatures

that were like Puffin-inspired. Man, I mean, and there's, of course, no railings. We don't need railings. And they don't let you go out there unless you're, like, really prepared. You've got to pass a cottage test. Well, if you don't have the right shoes, then we'll let you go. They won't let you go on the boat. No flippies.

And it mostly rains there, so it can be very treacherous. I mean, it's like rainy and cold for, like, most, I mean, it's exactly what they wanted. Yeah, and they got it, man. And think about how long it took them to build those steps. Oh, yeah. I mean, there was definitely plenty of monks who never even got to get into the huts because they died before they finished the steps.

Like, that's how long that kind of stuff takes. Like, you'll be working on something and then you'll die and your son will just start doing it. You know, like that, we were so many places when we were in Portugal, they were like, see this area of the thing, this guy started this and then he died and his son kept doing it and then he died and his son kept doing it.

It's just like, this is what I do. I just finished this thing that my dad did. And it's cool that you can go there and you can literally walk those steps and if you book it well enough in advance. So that's my biggest regret. But it was beautiful out there and we had really good weather.

And on the way back, I had a really good view of this one woman who was barfing into a weird, kind of a cool bag that they gave her. It was just like, it had like a really solid, solid ring at the top that you would like, and you hold on, you could hold on it to it for two hands.

They need those for the planes. So it just keeps it gaped open. And then you can choke it below it, like, you know. It's kind of like a pelican neck. So she would vomit into that and then she would choke it below it. How big was this boat? I'll look at her out of the corner of my. How big was the boat?

There was like 20 of us on the boat. Well, I could have 20 people on a cruise ship, man. How big is the boat? Couldn't I had any more on the boat. Okay. It was like a fishing boat kind of. How did Christy do on this? She did fine.

So Christy doesn't get boat sick. Not as much as you, apparently. We call that seasickness. Not as much as you, no. She felt a little uneasy, but she didn't get one of those cool pelican neck bags. I wonder what it is, though, because- Felt so bad for that girl. Christy gets car sick, and I don't get car sick, but I can.

I get seasick and she doesn't get seasick. I get car sick. I don't get seasick. Our brains need to be studied. That's not a good look to say that. I mean, I don't think people would care much about, the article about it, you know, the study. But like what makes somebody seasick and not car sick? I don't know.

So we flew into Dublin. We drove across the country. That had to be beautiful. the entire country. We took the southern route from Dublin all the way around to have. We drove on what's called the Ring of Kerry. Now, there's this, Carrie is the county that,

you know, on the western side, you got these big fat fangers that are coming out. And you can drive your car. There's typically a scenic route around a lot of these, like along the coastline, and it's absolutely beautiful. You're talking like huge cliffs,

verdant countryside, sheep and cows, and ancient walls. Just like, you can, everything just has this ancient feel, which we Americans, like, immediately appreciate because we don't have any of that. Yeah, we have, like, walls from the 70s. Right. The 1970s. Of course, and when you get over there to that, the Ring of Carey is a road, basically around that whole big fat finger.

And a lot of people take tour buses from Dublin or other places, and then they'll drive the ring and they'll get off the bus at certain places. And Waterville is like the lunch spot because it's right in the middle on the coast, which is where we stayed and we found out that like if we went, if we drove or biked into town to get a toasty with some sweet onion jam on, which I need more of that in my life you gotta dodge the timing of the tour buses that dump people off but whenever they get back on and leave then it's just this peaceful little village it's and it's the relaxing vibes you're walking on the

beach nobody nobody on the beach of course there's no water sports or anything like that it's not that type of beach what's the beach like and then This particular place, the tide went in and out a long way, so it was sandy and pebbly. But then at a certain point over, it was very rocky. No one's swimming, no one's surfing? Some people swimming if they're there, and you can't surf there. I saw one surf spot when driving the ring of carry. But the reason why people get on these tour buses is because if you don't have experience driving in Ireland, you have no business driving in Ireland.

Of course, I rented a car And I made my business to drive in Ireland When I'm renting the car We thought Lincoln might be coming He didn't It was Lily, Lando, Christy, and me But when it was, you had that other person And big ass luggage

All of a sudden I had to rent like this big honking van Yeah, that's what I drove around Scotland A van That's what I still had And the guy at the counter was like, don't do this Don't do this to us, sir It's basically his message As nice as possible, he was like,

I can't, I can't let you do this. So he downgraded me to a rangerover. I'm like, okay, that's cool. Thank God. The thing was, and then, you know, I'd driven in New Zealand, and if you remember the story after Christy and I got a spa treatment, after we had been there for almost two weeks,

and I'd gained confidence, I'm like pulling out and still turning the, going against traffic, and this old man is getting out of his car and, like, cursing me into Bolivian, like, literally. You've had this happen actually in Hawaii? Well, you don't drive on the other side of Hawaii. In New Zealand. No, but you got yelled at by a motorist. Yeah, yeah, I did. I get yelled at.

Yeah. So I was a bit apprehensive leaving the rental car place trying to get out. I mean, the worst thing is getting, you know, So driving around an airport, oh, they do everything in roundabouts. But then there's lights in the roundabouts, and you're on the wrong side and all of this stuff. Excuse me, the other side, the left side. And I'm just, I mean, you couldn't get a pen in my anus. Well, I'm not trying to.

I'm not talking about an ink pin. I'm talking about a sewing needle. You couldn't, I mean, I'd like for you to turn it around and use the. No one is trying to just stick a needle in your ass. But don't, you couldn't do it. No one's sharp end, the whole end. You couldn't have gotten it in my anus because I was that tight.

And nothing. What were people in the car saying? They, nothing. Everyone was just silent. And I tried to play relaxing music, but we're like leaving and I'm like trying to figure out. Relaxing music. I'm trying to get out of the city as quick as possible

and just get on some sort of road that's just like consistent as opposed to turn left, turn right, and all this stuff. I'm getting kind of into the burbs of Dublin, not losing it up a bit, because it's scary. What kind of relax music? Meditative? Just some instrumental folk.

I was trying to, you know. I did try Irish folk. Fit the setting, yeah. On the, you're in the left lane, but then there's another lane to the left that's just for taxis and buses. And they're, like, whizzing past me. And then that lane goes away, and we're all merging together, and we're in traffic. And then of a sudden, I hear sirens. And this ambulance comes up behind me, and I'm like, sweat just pouring out of my pits.

And the thing I knew was like, okay, don't. panic. This is a life or death situation, but don't panic. For somebody else. For somebody else. And I can't, I don't want to make it a life or death situation for me. So I don't know what to do. So I'm not going to do anything. I'm just going to, so I just stayed there. Because there's no place to go. I couldn't go to the right because it was, there was like a median and then it was oncoming traffic. But I wanted to. I really wanted to go to the right. Because in, in that panic situation, I'm like, I started going to the right, and then I'm like, thank God there was a barrier there.

I'd have gone into oncoming traffic. And so then instead of, this is how discombobulated I was, instead of then saying, oh, yes, I'll go left, because pulling over is left here. All I could do was just stay there. But the ambulance couldn't go around me. So the ambulance was just like, I mean, I don't know if the Simon got louder and louder,

but it definitely felt like the Simon was getting louder and louder. Why didn't they go to the left? Because you're supposed to go to the left. Because they kept waiting for me to do it. And then I eventually went to the left. And I was like, whew. So I made it. Good.

I mean, the medic didn't get out and start yelling at me. Who knows what happened to the person in that ambulance? I mean, every second counts. I mean, maybe they weren't in the ambulance yet. Even worse. I know. Every second counts. So I potentially killed somebody.

Yeah, like, you're already here. You're already here. Sorry, Ireland. There's your title. Link potentially killed someone in Ireland. Let me know. No, don't. Don't.

I don't need confirmation if you died because of me. But then I'm like, okay, we're on more of a freeway. We get out, but we kept going and going and going, we're going through all these towns. And when you get over there, like in close to Waterville, I mean, things are rural. There's no, there's not even gas stations. Fast food is a thing of the past.

Like, they're never nowhere. Fast food. None of the towns have anything like that. All they got is pubs, and the pubs are the place for everything. They're the center of Irish world I've learned. Okay. Because you eat the food there, too. You don't just drink the drink, the beers.

but then the roads get smaller and smaller and smaller and all of a sudden I'm convinced that I am driving a car on a golf course there's no lines it's like single wide at first there's like well there's still a line in the middle and then that one goes away and then they just have lines on the sides on each side and so it's one lane that you're supposed to stay in the middle of love and then you...

And then those go away and it's just bushes. And then they don't know what... They don't have shoulders. The roads don't have shoulders. Yeah. They just have bushes. So it's... It's literally a golf cart path with no marks,

no way to pull over. And then... And you're in a range rover. And I'm gonna... At least you're not in a van. I know, dude. So what are you? What do you do when you come upon a person going the other way?

Well, I mean, in a worst, worst case scenario, somebody backs up. Do you saw this happen? Yeah! But usually they would have little pull-offs. You know how like when a mailman pulls over to put the mail in the box? You know, it's like the mailman just creates one of those. Those kind of exist. So you're like, there's not a moment that you're not a moment that you're

you can relax when driving in Ireland. Is there an etiquette that you understood, like, okay, I began to understand. I need to be the one to turn off. I mean, if you can, you do. Whoever's closer to one of them. Yeah. And there are plenty of places where you can just, it doesn't look like you can pull over, but you just do anyway somehow.

And you just have to get used to the fact that my side mirror and that the person who I'm meeting their side mirror are going to kiss. They're going to be literally centimeters you see what I did there, away from each other. That's just what everybody's just used to it. They just have this innate sense of like

where their side mirrors are and they don't touch, they just kiss. And you go past people all the time. But, I mean, you could lean out in the window and kiss an Irishman. Well, that's the Irish kiss. If you wanted to. But the other side of the car is against the bushes.

Yeah, and Christy's there. And you don't know how close you are to the bushes. I mean, Scotland was... Oh, yeah, you do, because you're constantly hitting them. Yeah, Scotland was similar, but maybe not as bad as you're describing. Maybe Ireland is even more... I mean, I was in the highlands of Scotland, and I was going off of the road. My dad and a couple of brothers were behind me, and they were like, yeah, you're like,

wheel is kind of like off the shoulder half the time or whatever. Yeah. But it was still too late. Christy kept saying, get over, get over, you're getting too close. I'm like, girl, you do not want me to get over. I'd rather hit a bush than a dude. Yeah. And, I mean, we were on the road for five hours that day, and we stopped for lunch, and we went to...

And you went like 15 miles. We stopped at Blarney Castle, and we did some different things, but, by the time we got there, it was dark. And it don't get dark until 11 p.m. My brain was fried. Like, I just, I felt like I couldn't have gone another mile. I was just completely and utterly exhausted. But no one said it's never regret. There's not a moment that you can take your eyes off the road or your hands off the wheel.

You know, like adjusting the air conditioning, adjusting their music. And you had an automatic, right? No way. Oh, yeah, had it on. Which, I mean, that's not always the case. That's not. I couldn't have done a stick. A lot of people would just get, yeah, I got an automatic too when I was Scotland,

but apparently that's not always, especially in like mainland Europe. But it is beautiful. I mean, it's absolutely beautiful. And they've just got sheep all over the place. And one of the things that, I notice is that there's a lot of people seeing things around Ireland, and a lot of them have a certain companion that surprised me. Now, it's a dog. It doesn't sound surprising. Okay, but it's not an Irish setter. It's a three-legged dog. I can't tell you how many

three-legged dogs I saw just trotting around scenic overlooks or like beaches or I don't know what it is about the the dogs in Ireland

but they're short on legs I think maybe they get them run over by Americans that's it I mean think about you got these narrow roads you got dogs just sticking a foot out that's what it is dude

they're getting run over their dogs are their legs run over. Now, we're not the only ones who drive on the right. The majority of the world drives on the right side. Oh, yeah, yeah. The rest of Europe does. Here we go. See, saw.

All of us are maiming these dogs. But the good news is they're still loving it. They're still doing fine. Well, you got four to start with. Right. Right. Cats have nine lives. Dogs have four legs.

That's right. The thing that I said was, I just don't want to kill a baby. Okay, that's a good thing to say. literally said that out many times because it was a very, when I was driving, especially in town, but sometimes in the countryside, there'd just be somebody pushing a stroller. No side, there's no shoulders. They're all in the room.

In the cities, there's no shoulders, no sidewalks. They don't believe in that. They're just like, people walking in those streets, and then a car comes through, and it's like, why am I, am I in a parade? I just felt so strange, people pushing strollers right at me. Like they're trying to push it under the car. I'm like, I just don't want to kill a baby. Yeah.

You know, if I can get through this trip. Good instinct. Without doing that, I have succeeded. Well, maybe not killing anybody, but especially a baby. I didn't kill any babies, but I came close. I would say five times. To kill him five babies? Well, because there was nowhere else to go.

Well, what did the baby do? The baby was a baby by itself? It was in the stroller. Okay. What did the baby's mother and father do when you get behind it? What do they expect to happen? Well, they're not, they're coming at me. Unflinching.

What did you do? I tighten my bow hole. How do you maneuver around it? I went to the right a little bit. But did you see Irish people navigate these situations? They're okay, I'm going to do what that guy did. They'd kind of go to the ride. that guy almost hit the baby but he didn't hit the baby yeah they almost hit their

babies and they don't right okay I mean they just kiss them with the with the side mirrors and hit the occasional dog yeah they don't care about that right that's okay unless unless they've unless they're already down to three I mean Irish people have to they're hard scrabble when they when they come to the United States and I think this is probably true for people all around the world you come to the United States and you're like why I got so much asphalt like we have yeah we have shoulders on lots of our roads that you can, it's a whole car over there.

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limitations, terms, and conditions apply. So I got another dog story, and I got another golf cart path story. Okay. We rented bikes so we could ride around town, and what that meant was Christy rode the bike once and then said that she doesn't, she's too scared to ride bikes. I don't know. She's going to be mad at me for saying that, but like... Well, you've made it sound scary.

Yeah, that's true. It is scary. So she didn't ride the bike that I rented. Because you're riding it on roads. Yeah, you're right. They're on bike paths, apparently. No, no, no, no. Well, they do, but that's where the cars drive.

There was a golf course at the, not too far from where we were staying in Waterville. Nice golf course. Of course, I don't golf, but I'm biking at... Play golf. My mom would correct you if you said that. Oh, 10.30 at night. Which is like sunset. And I'm like, I'm riding around.

and I'm running in the parking lot of the golf course. And then I see as I'm going past the clubhouse that like the gate, the service gate is open. And so boom, there I go. So now I'm riding my bike on the golf course. What time of day? 10.30 at night. It's getting dark.

And I'm like, well, there's nobody golfing. I was like, oh, no, there's still some people golfing. I look over. There's three people golfing. And then I'm, but I'm, it's too late now, so I'm just riding by them. Oh, they don't report me. And then I'm like, man, they're being still. And then I look closely.

And they're statues of golfers. Oh. So I'm like, I'm good. And then around another corner. And on the fairway, I see dogs. Just dogs sitting on the fairway. One, two, three, four, five, eight dogs. not like scattered

and I'm peddling and I get closer and I'm going to count the legs of these dogs and they scatter and they run and I realize that these dogs have the longest ears I've ever seen because in fact

these are Irish hairs giant freaking rabbits dude and they're How big? As big as Jasper, who's a, you know, a 13-pound dog. And he's bigger than a 13-pound dog in terms of, like, his space, he has long legs. He has long legs like a rabbit.

If Jasper had really long ears like a jack rabbit, that's what this would be. And they don't hop. They run. That's how they do it. So they're like... They run? They run, like a dog runs. They're just big enough and their front legs are long enough

and their legs work in a way that that's what it is. Irish hair. Did you make a wish? What do you mean make a wish? I don't know, it just feels like an Irish thing to do and you see, you see hairs on a golf course. It was cool. It was magical.

It's magical there, right? It was magical. I thought you're gonna say they were statues, by the way. Well, interestingly enough, what are the statues that delineate The, were you T off? What are those called? The T-boxes. The T-boxes, then I noticed they were Irish hares.

So the logo and the whole theme of this golf course is Irish hares. I went around another corner and same thing. Now, they're solitary animals. I read a little bit about them. Well, that's all I read about them. So don't ask you here. So what were they doing, having a meeting? They weren't together.

Together, but they were separate. Like people riding on the subway? Yeah, but they had plenty of space. I go around another, I mean, they're like all over this golf course, which is on this peninsula right on the ocean and this like river that comes in. So that was a highlight for me because that was like an adventure. And I like to get into adventure where I'm doing something. I'm not doing something bad, but I'm doing something wrong.

One of your highlights was biking a golf course. Yeah. Not playing the golf course. Well, because I knew I wasn't allowed there. I knew if I got confronted by somebody, it would not, it would be, I needed to leave. Yeah, because you can't do that during the day for sure. Right. But I tried to respect, I wasn't like driving on the greens or something.

Right. But it wasn't all paved. Yeah. And it was beautiful. So that was a lot of fun. And then I come over a corner, come over a hill, and there are a few people at 10.30 at night, still golfing. Isn't that awesome? Wouldn't you love that, right?

It'd be nice. Golf after work? Yep, right on the ocean. And so I didn't want them to see me, so I had to subvert and go another way and get sneaky, sneaky. And no trees, right? No trees. Yeah. And then I'm trying to exit and the gates closed.

I'm not going to get off my bike and walk it, so I'm like trying to find another way. And then I see a worker in a golf cart and he's coming towards me. And I'm like, okay, this is it, but it's fine because I'm leaving anyway. And the golf cart pass split. And so as he's coming up to me, I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to kick off this conversation because that'll put me in a position of power and authority.

There you go. So I said, what's the quickest way out of here? Oh, see? I'm already leaving. You don't have to tell me is what I was communicating. I'm lost, basically. And he was like, he looked at me very puzzled, young guy. And of course he did.

And he was like, you can go that way. So I went that way before he could even finish talking because I didn't want to be detained. I don't know, I just felt like I could be detained. Yeah, yeah. They'll arrest you, yeah. And I love that feeling. You know I love that feeling.

The feeling of almost being arrested? Not arrested, but detained. Like, you're doing something wrong, but you're not doing something bad. You know what I'm saying? Okay, yeah. A little trespassing. Ain't never hurt nobody, as long as you don't hurt anybody.

Yeah, well, it can hurt you sometimes, depending on the landowner. So I got out of there. Next night, we go to the restaurant that's around there, and we're with our friends, another family, that they have a house there, and their plans are to move there permanently. And so it was nice... Do they play golf? Yes, he plays golf.

That's got to be something. That's got to be something. You should have been friends with him, not me. Yeah, right. And we're Of course We're drinking our Guinness And we're splitting the G

Do you know what this is? Splitting the G Jenna Tell us what splitting the G is You drink your first Sips of Guinness Out of the pint So perfectly

Like that first big gulp That when you set the pint back down The logo The, yeah, you've split from when you started drinking. Yeah, the beer level is splitting the G. Yeah. Yeah. Like the flat part of the G in the word Guinness.

Uh-huh. And this was my first time doing this, and I was like, all right, we're going to split the G. And I failed. Went too far? But I will tell you, I didn't go far enough. It's a lot further than you might think, which is the beauty of it, because we're When you try to split the G, then you're like, you're really gulping a lot of beer.

You're really getting started hot. Yeah. You know? But then I will say, every other time I split the G, I nailed it. Oh. And I would always impress. Because I decided, and you take it from me. I was like, I knew about this split the G thing.

I was like, I'm going to take the L on the first one. but I'm gonna measure this out in my freaking mouth, man. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna calculate what my mouth takes to split the G. It's three gulps and then 60% of a fourth gulp. So not just your mouth, it's your, you're putting in your throat. So it's really your mouth and throat. I don't know how to open my throat to do that. So for me, it was-

So you're filling the mouth and then emptying the mouth? I'm filling the mouth and gulping. Oh, don't tell anybody about that. but they're distracted because they're also trying to split the G at the same time So do you look like I don't know what I look like

Nobody's looking at me because everybody's splitting the G at the same time But how slow are you drinking it? If you're going I'm drinking it fast as I can And it's... That's not splitting the GED I'm saying I will say when I...

Shut up When I put the pint down I put it down at the same time as my cohorts. I will say that. Okay, all right. And it's separate for that first time, every other time, nailed it.

And I was a hero. I was a local, no one else could do it. I was the best. Other people could do it, but I was the best at something. That's respectable. At something. And I gave you my secret, and so you're not gonna sit here and pick it apart, because I didn't have to tell you that.

Well, my mouth's different. You're at yes, but the- I don't think I could follow those rules. But the technique, take the L on the first split, the G. I'm counting. And then you can take the G every other time. I'm counting in my head is what I'm doing. I'm figuring out my pace, and I'm just counting.

Do it, but. Without making that noise, of course. And the first time you do it, you want to stop a little short, and then you want to add a little. Well, if I go to Ireland, I'm practicing this before I ever get there. I'm doing this on America's soil. Yeah. Well, it tastes different.

It tastes different. Yeah, different altitude. And then there's a party going on. And, you know me, if I split the G enough and I'm walking to the bathroom and I encounter a party, well, I'm going to engage with said party. Okay. So I engage with this party. They're celebrating somebody's birthday. I knew this because they had sang it.

Yeah. Is it the same version? It was the same over there. It wasn't gay like her. Birthday? They were... I probably just said a different accent. And then

this one guy comes up to me and he's just like I thought I was totally crazy when I saw you on the golf course last night he was the guy who worked at the golf course was there at the birthday party and he was like I thought that was you

and I was like well you were looking at me like I was crazy but I thought I was going to be detained so yeah I kind of blew his mind He's like the dude, like, the low man on the totem pole having to shut down the golf course encounters some dude on a bike scattering the Irish hairs, and it's me because he watches the show. So it did happen a few times. We got some Irish fans. The beautiful town of Adair is where the Ryder Cup is going to be next year.

See, I know golf things. No, you know a lot of things. Um, I met a local barkeep there who was a huge fan and, um, the chips there. I'm skipping around now, but when I met him, I bought my favorite potato chips. Oh, I thought you were going to be talking about French fries. No, I'm back in America. When I say chips, I mean it. Okay, all right, potato crisps.

Of course they have potato chips there, uh, potato crisps. And they have a brand name called Kearnigs or something. K-E. Yeah, we have those here. Oh, well, they haven't, we have them here? It's like K-E-O-N, yeah. Well, they're Irish. K-E-G-G-and-and-they have cheese and onion.

And they have cheese and sour cream, too. I think maybe we just had them on the show, and I remember noting how good they were. They're so good, dude. And you can get them with ridges. Like, you know, our favorite chips are ruffles, sour cream and cheddar. Cheddar sour cream.

They have cheddar onion with ridges, and they are just the best. I was surprised, you know, my expectations for the food was pretty low, but best fish and chips I've ever had. I mean, and different places do it really well, and if you go to the right place, like, I really like that. Because I like putting vinegar on my, on my, on my fish. Right. I also like putting mayonnaise on my fries, which you can do there, but that's not something they do. I mentioned toasties, seafood chowder. I mean, like, white fit.

So instead of clam chowder, it's like white fish in a chowder and brown bread. So, I mean, kind of bland stuff, but I really like bland stuff. you know so you throw back a Guinness what about in Dublin isn't there like a food scene in Dublin is there like Indian food in Dublin like there is in London yes yes we ate really good Indian food

a number of highly rated places and it was you know most a lot of the people in there were Indian people so I was like this is the right place you know and it was it was great I'm going to recommend a couple of things, and then I'm going to close with a Gaelic prayer, I remember us, a limerick. I'm going to close with the limerick.

I'm going to close with my favorite experience on the aisle, which made me grin uncontrollable. and brought a tear to my eye I know it's kind of late in the episode for a teaser, but like they skipped ahead 17 minutes anyway. Right. When you're in Dublin, I recommend going to the Little Museum

of Dublin. A 29-minute tour right there in the heart of Dublin. It's a it's a performance

from the tour guides there's only like a couple of rooms and it's less about and you get this like overview of Dublin past and Dublin present so it's like a historic a history lesson but it's very entertaining and it's because the tour guides are very vivacious so we were eating across around the corner at a Middle Eastern cafe called Tang and you know

if you see the Tang you got to get you some tang right yeah that's right you're talking about it to drink or the drink right I'm talking I was just trying to make a joke it's a restaurant and you need to go there and you need to get yourself everything that they have absolutely amazing like falafel

it's wonderful once you eat a bunch of fish and chips you kind of want to eat some Indian food you kind of want to eat some Middle Eastern Tang is a great lunch spot and then right around the corner go to the Little Museum of Dublin the guy who was like the manager of the place

he happened to be walking by while we were eating at Tang and he recognized me and I was noting his I liked his pants and he gave us free passes he said I'm a fan of what you do if you can stop by

and I'm so glad we did we had so much fun it was funny it was educational it was entertaining and if it's raining it doesn't rain in there because it's inside it's helpful uh we also went to the church which is an old cathedral that has been turned into a bar and um they have Irish river dance or whatever like Irish jigs. They're like doing Irish jigs in there. So get yourself a pint. Watch that. Um, anything else I missed? I talk about three-legged dogs? Yep, you do. Enough? Yeah, probably. Okay. I had signed us up for, I was like, all right, we're going to drive up to Dingle one day. Dingle? Dingle, uh, coastal town. And on TikTok,

outside of Dingle, people post pet a baby lamb, which is kind of redundant. But people put this all over TikTok. So I knew that we needed to go over there and do that, and I knew that, like, everybody else would love that. And I'll be okay with it. So we all went up there and we did that.

But the thing that I made reservations for was a sheep-herding demonstration. Yes Which This is something you can see On TikTok And sometimes It will come across my feet

Is it ever come across your feet Seeing Dogs working and hurting And like sorting sheep Or sometimes Like running over the backs of the sheep And stuff like that Yeah now that

I didn't see that So thanks for going ahead And set in the bar a little too high Oh okay But yeah But just hurting in an open pasture being

controlled by one shepherd so I signed us up for a demonstration and we show up and when we get out of the car it's just like a shack on the side of the road and then when you look up the hill it's right on the coast and you feel it's beautiful and when you look up the hill

there's like farm ruins and walls and some sheep. But we get out of the car and there's like an old sheep dog there. I would actually wouldn't call it a sheep dog. It was a border collie, black and white border collie, small. And I swear that that thing was limpid. I think that it was maybe going down to three legs. Oh, maybe it's an evolutionary Slow moving

And so we petted that dog And then we met the guy And he was He was a swarthy guy But he was not a pirate I'm not doing an Irish accent He said go up and look at Go up there in the path

And We'll come up there eventually Which they did And A couple of buses got there And then dumped some people off and then he lined us all up on the side of the fence

and then he goes up on the other side of the fence and he starts doing a presentation and he calls his dog and daggum if it isn't that dog that I thought was on its third leg not in that way and the dog springs to life

and is the most to use the word again vivacious being like just like bursting with joy to do the one thing that she was, every fiber of her being was geared to do. It's all part of the act though. They play hurt and limp and stuff like that.

I think it was playing a little, these people. It was playing sheepish down there for sympathy. Pull on these people's hard as dreams. I think so. Oh, it's all an act. I think so. This dog is so smart, man. So smart. Yeah. And we were just petting and we're like, oh, you, you must be retired. Like literally, it was Literally, we were saying things. I'll show you retired. And then I'm getting goosebumps just talking about it because, like, there were two dogs that he had. I can't remember their names, like, lady and something.

Not the tramp. And he would give voice commands and tell him, like, go up, come around, like, left, right. And so you could tell that she was, like, raring to go. And when he finally stopped talking, like told her to run up the hill she runs up the hill and then she you know then she brings the sheep down nice and gentle right there right beside us and um he sent he would send both of them out and one of them he the commands he gave were in english and the other one the commands he gave were

in gaelic so they were completely independently controlled very cool very excited just to see a dog just fulfill his destiny and to be so excited about it. I wonder if that's part of the system is to, you have two dogs, you have to do the two different languages. It's like part of the tradition. That's how he did it, but I learned... Well, yeah.

Two sets of commands for the... I was saying, but at one point, everybody up there spoke Gaelic, so what do they do at that point? Well, they can either train them with different commands or, as I'll talk more about it, a little bit, whistles. So you can either just give them a different set of commands entirely, but he used gay like in English. We left there, and I was like, this is the best thing. This is my favorite thing. I couldn't wipe the smile on my face.

You know, it's just one of those things where it's like, what, the kids' first time at the circus or something. Before you really understand what's happening. Did anybody get video of this? Were you compelled to capture it or just capture it with your heart? Christy did, but I didn't, I was like,

I'm not gonna, I have to be here in this moment. Yeah. We went to the lamb feeding and lamb holding thing after that. And then the guy at the lamb holding thing was, oh, we told him that we had just done that. He was like, and then we told him where we were from. And he was like, well, 30 minutes. from where you're from, you know, we had driven like two and a half hours to Dingle.

It was like, 30 minutes from where you're from is the world champion sheepherder. So you should go see Tom O'Sullivan. Not me, little old me and Dingle. No, he's, don't go see my neighbor. It was his neighbor. So he was like throwing his neighbor under the bus. Because he knew that we were from there, he was like, well, you got to go see Tom O'Sullivan. He's the cream of the crop, like literal world champion.

And I'm like, well, I'll go see them all because it was the best thing I've ever experienced, you know, in the rain. Okay, thank you for the qualifier. And so two days later, here we are going over to see Tom O'Sullivan do his thing. And I'm talking another level. Oh, really? I mean, not to knock this guy. The guy, the first guy we saw, he was a sheep farmer, okay? Right.

Which they don't sell the wool, they just sell the meat. The wool, he said, is just worthless. Yeah. How so? Economy. Just the economy of it. I mean, there's no demand. Hmm.

That type of thing. Wool's out. Wool's out, apparently. At least for him. So I'm not dogging this guy, but he was a sheep farmer. you know, and he was showing us what he did, which was cool. But then, and I guess Tom O'Sullivan might have been, but he takes everything to a whole other level

because he's a competitive sheep herder. Is he dressed differently? He was dressed in a more high-end rain suit. Oh, okay, that's a sign. And he had a great speech. and he was very informative. Did he have dogs that were acting like a little bit under the weather before they started?

No, it wasn't like they were trying to pull a stick. They were up under a shelter and the world champion that he loves the most that he actually let sleep in the house with him and his wife is getting on up in age and he tells us this towards the end and he's like, so she suffered an injury A leg injury

See, I'm telling you. He didn't say it was a car though And he didn't say she was going down to three But I think it might be happening She's on her way She's in rehab And she's getting up in age So she can't work as much

And you could tell he was getting emotional Because he has such a connection With this Like she's such He's trained hundreds of dogs But like to be the world champion And to be you can look it up Tom O'Sullivan, sheep hurting, and see her do her thing.

And you can see him getting emotional when he was talking about it because he has such a connection to such a special, exceptional dog. But the other dog is the one that he did the demo with us, and that dog was amazing too. And, you know, he's explaining why they crouch. And basically it's that wolf instinct, you know, They're trying to, you know, they're usually eating these. They would have been eating the sheep, so it's very important for him to train his dog well to be under control because it'll scare the bejes out of these sheep because they think they're being stalked to be eaten constantly, right?

So the main challenge he talked about was in keeping them calm and controlled in their hurting because they are so geared. to do it and they will go full, they would, I mean, they will run themselves to death doing this because it's just in every fiber of their being. So it's like you're controlling, you're not controlling them to do it, do it, you're controlling how they go about it. And you're also controlling meticulous movements at long distances, which is why you need the whistle, which was just this piece of plastic you know when you put your fingers

in the corners of your mouth and you do that kind of whistle so there's no like there's no goozle and it's not a referee whistle this is one of those like whew whee-wee-wee-wee-w I can't do it and you can make

so you know like the guy from Yondo and Guardians of the Galaxy how he would like use that whistle to control the arrows not that I watch superhero movies anymore I don't but that's one of the best

he would do those type of whistles and then he could have different whistle commands to have multiple dogs going at the same time he didn't train his dogs in Gaelic in other words and he did most everything with a whistle how complex does the whistling get I could tell I mean he would he he told us about like five different whistles

and he told us to them you know it's like go left go right stay and then he said that one of the most difficult ones was once you isolate, like he isolated one sheep from the group and then let the other group go and then the dog was just keeping this one sheep basically isolated.

And then the whole herd was then behind the dog. What was that sheep thinking? I think the sheep are quite used to it at this point. But the sheep aren't thinking. Oh, it's my turn. They aren't thinking a lot. Like the sheep are stupid. They don't, they don't,

they don't start to get trained as part of this demonstration process. It's always a new day. It's always, it's like clean slate, which in another way is equally as inspiring, right? It's like you, but he said the most difficult thing was this. And then he said, turn around and then immediately the dog leaves the sheep that it is like just completely fixated. on and then goes and gets all the other sheep. And that's like really hard to train apparently because once they get fixated,

they're not going to want to leave. Because they've done what they've tried. They don't, they've succeeded. They want to do, which is separate one from the herd. I think so, yeah. And you're doing a lot of work to get them to be able to do that. So then to kind of then say, unless I tell you this, then you have to do the complete opposite.

and it was like the moment he said turn around it was like on a dime and it I mean and again if the sheep are far away like just how these dogs will just sprint just I don't know it just it was just an exultation and you could just feel it and they were just so happy to be doing it now they were they were made to do it they were they were created to do it they were created to do it They were bread to do it. But yeah, it was just like the ultimate satisfaction, and it was just so contagious. I would, I got to start watching it on TikTok.

And there's a show called. Maybe you can start your own chapter. There's a, I don't know, I don't, yeah, I don't have the responsibility to take care of a herding dog. I mean, you don't. There's so much energy. Right. I mean, your dogs are less well trained than mine.

What? Jasper will come when I call him. I mean, Barbara can lay down, she can dance. Oh, she does tricks. She does tricks. I mean, that's the closest thing to sheep riding. And Sean can't do anything. But Jasper will heal in a public situation.

Okay. Not when I'm being confronted by deer, but... So, apparently there's this BBC show called A Man and His Dog. It's like, I think from the 80s, maybe 90s, But Tom O'Sullivan was featured in that. Well, he's been doing this for quite some time. And so he's not that old. So maybe it went into the 90s.

But, like, I think I'm going to look up that show and start watching that. It's not just about sheep her. He's about, like, all the things that dogs can do. Right. And it's, I guess, British. So if you're into that, that's my recommendation. A man in his dog. Thank you, Ireland, for having me and my family.

We had a wonderful time. And I want you to know. that I did not mention leprechauns once until now and I didn't do a lucky charm's impersonation because I know that those things aren't a big deal to you

and that shouldn't define who you are as a people because you're so used to them at this point you see them all the time it's like not a big deal so next week I'm a little bit jealous that you got to go to my actual homeland

before I got to go to it I think it's my homeland too Well, when I looked up, back when I had 23 of me before I deleted the data, more people, I'm related to more people in Dublin than any other city on Earth in terms of like the concentration of like third cousins. So I feel like I have to go to Dublin and I got to learn how to say it correctly. Dublin. At some point. So maybe I'll have a different take on it one day. I'll have a take on Boston.

Boston. Croatia. Croatia. In North Carolina. Oh. Next week. Okay. The hat trick, as they say.

Okay. All right. We'll speak at you next week if you're ready for that. Hey, guys. This is Haley calling from Immodile-ish, North Carolina. I just wanted to say, you know, Link, he's got a point. Okay, love you, bye.