Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Link’s Romantic Big Sur Getaway | Ear Biscuits Ep.311

Episode Date: November 15, 2021

From basking in the sound of rain serenading their cabin to some eye-opening revelations about himself and his nakedness, Link recounts his recent romantic trip to Big Sur with his wife Christy in thi...s episode of Ear Biscuits! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:33 I'm Rhett. And I'm Link. This week at the round table of dim light, and I'm giving you your tit for tat. The tit was your trip to Key West, and it was a lot of tits. Yeah, you're not gonna have nearly as many as me. And now I'm giving you some tats, man. If you saw as many tits in Big Sur as I trip to Key West and it was a lot of tits. Yeah, you're not gonna have nearly as many as me. And now I'm giving you some tats, man.
Starting point is 00:00:46 If you saw as many tits in Big Sur as I saw in Key West, then I don't know what festival that was. Well, let me tell you, I did, but they were all on the same woman, just different instances. Okay, I see where you're going with that. So I will say there is a little, there's gonna be some conversation about sex in this.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Seems to be something we're doing lately. Once we've, yeah, we busted that hatch open. Yeah. And now we're just crawling right out of it again and again, but you know, I feel free to, I think it's gonna come up in conversation. Yeah, okay. When telling you about my trip to Big Sur with Christy,
Starting point is 00:01:27 at the same time that you were in Key West, I was doing that. It was just the two of us. Shorter trip, didn't have to get on a plane, totally different vibe. Kind of like the different vibes in what we're wearing, which I will get to what I'm wearing in a little bit and also get to what you're wearing.
Starting point is 00:01:43 But yeah, I'm gonna talk about that. And then I think towards the end of this conversation, by way of recommendation, I'm gonna talk about sex in a different way that's not related to my own experience, but some things that I've learned through a series that I watched that I wanna talk to you about.
Starting point is 00:02:02 So I'm gonna save some time for that. So it's kind of a side A and a side B to this conversation that I envision happening. But that's a little bit of a warning. If you've had enough of sex talk from Rhett and Link. Who has? Then just go to something else. Or once we start getting into that,
Starting point is 00:02:21 you can skip away to something else. I have a little sex update, I guess you could call it, that I have to get into. Well, okay, we'll go right for it now then. Like an errors and omissions situation. Okay, from last episode? I teased last week's episode about getting shot with a wiener gun.
Starting point is 00:02:40 From a golf cart, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I never told the story because there's no story. It was just, I was walking down the street and there was a woman with a giant penis water gun and she was just shooting. You're talking, it was like a shotgun? No, I'm saying it was like-
Starting point is 00:02:54 Like a wiener? I'm saying, when I say giant, I mean giant as if it were an actual penis. It would be like, that's a big penis, but not like a super soaker, which would be like, that's a big penis, but not like a super soaker, which would be like, no one's got that penis. And if they do, they're like in a record book somewhere. It's just more like, that's a-
Starting point is 00:03:12 It's a special record book. That's a big penis, but it's not, it's just a water gun. I don't think Guinness is in the business of measuring peni. Not anymore, yeah, sadly. But they, she squirted me. She squirted everyone. I mean, she was just having the time of her life.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Was it water? Yeah. I mean, it didn't go in my mouth, but it didn't smell weird. It went in your nose. It just went on my face and chest. Oh, wow. That's a bold move.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah, yeah, she got me. Hey, you can get away in that golf cart though. Another advantage. I could have never caught up with her. Of an off-road golf me. Hey, you can get away in that golf cart though. Another advantage. I could have never caught up with her. Of an off-road golf cart. I don't know what I would have done. Grabbed her gun. I had made plans to go to Big Sur
Starting point is 00:03:55 and then they were eradicated by the pandemic. So for our 20 year wedding anniversary, which in 2020 is when we were gonna go. I had it booked, I had to cancel. So I ended up going back to that same place. But since then you've been, and then I heard about the place because Stevie recommended it.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And I started looking into it, it's called Glen Oaks. They took a motor home, not a motor home, a motor lodge that's been in Big Sur for a long time. And they revamped that, but you can't even really see that. I never actually saw that part of it. And then they also have cabins, like individual or like two cabins put together. And so you can rent out one of those.
Starting point is 00:04:40 This is very much a glamping experience. It's like the best of both worlds. I was very much looking forward to it. By the time I rebooked, I didn't get the cabin that I wanted. When you're driving up through Big Sur, there's basically just Highway 1. There's nothing, man.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And you're going up there and it's, I mean, there's so many screen savers of Big Sur that you didn't even know. Like, and there's the Bixby Bridge, which was built in 1936, this huge, beautiful, arching, under arched bridge that when you drive across it, you might not appreciate how amazing it is until you look back.
Starting point is 00:05:18 It's right on the coast. It's that one from, if you watch, is it Big Little Lies? Is in the intro. I haven't watched that. Christy watched that without me. It's good. It's good, especially the bridge part.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Oh really? Every episode. She only told me about the wiener part. There was like, there was a- Skarsgård. There was an erect wiener walking around. I think it was probably a prosthetic. I don't think, I think that's how they do it these days. So you're, when you're driving up,
Starting point is 00:05:45 you're right on the coast and so much of the coast is just these, I know you went and I know you talked about on your biscuits and I don't wanna rehash everything, but it just bears repeating how beautiful the whole- Maybe the most beautiful place on earth. Central coast of California, I've never been
Starting point is 00:06:01 to the Northern coast of California yet. And I kind of thought I was in Northern California until I looked at the map. There's a lot of California. It's very much central. You know, there's a whole part of California, the Lost Coast, where the train is too crazy, they couldn't even get a road to like hug the coast
Starting point is 00:06:21 that you can get there by like certain roads. Yeah, our friend Nick went there but our friend Nick went up there. I gotta get up there. That whole, I mean, that's a completely different world. Hardly any people up there. So when you're going, I mean, you're right on the edge of these cliffs and you can look down and just see the waves crashing
Starting point is 00:06:40 against the rugged coastline of California. There's a few places where it turns into very rugged beaches and there's a handful of state parks along in the Big Sur area. But when you really drive to Glen Oaks and I think you went to Ventana or I can't remember what it was called. No, I went to the-
Starting point is 00:07:07 You can't even remember? It was like the best place I've ever stayed. And it's just completely the post ranch. Post ranch. Those are like real, that's not glamping, that's like resort stuff, which is very cool and I wanna do that too. But it's individual cabins though.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Oh. Yeah, it's not a resort. It's just resort prices. It's exorbitant, but like we stayed in a tree house that was just- Oh yeah, you stayed in a tree house. It was just an individual tree house. See, I do remember this now. These cabins are on the ground, but when you're,
Starting point is 00:07:35 I really began, I'd driven through Big Sur a couple of times and I began to really appreciate the topography of, at a certain point you leave the coast and you veer in to the redwoods that are all growing in there. And there's this huge ravine, huge valley, and you can no longer see the ocean. And then you're kind of going down there into the bottom
Starting point is 00:08:01 and the Big Sur River comes through there. Is that the Carmel Valley? No, I don't know that it has a name. It's Big Sur proper, like at that particular place where these cabins are. On the right side of the road when you're going north was where you check in and the cabin that Christy and I ended up staying in.
Starting point is 00:08:20 But the cabin I wanted and that are the most coveted are the ones across the street. And then you walk down to where the river is gently flowing through there. And there's cabins all around it. And it's nothing but redwood groves, very rustic cabins. So I wanna go back and I definitely did some reconnaissance. There's an opportunity for like you and Jesse
Starting point is 00:08:45 to come with us. Maybe we can bring some other friends because there's some other places to stay at Glen Oaks that can accommodate more people that look totally isolated and absolutely amazing. At the same place, just different parts of the same place. Yeah, but the cabin we stayed in was on the other side, but it was still an amazing glamping experience.
Starting point is 00:09:06 You got this king bed, and then you've got a little kitchenette. You've got this fireplace in the room that's very cute, nice, and glampy. And then they've got a bathroom with heated floors. Oh yeah. You got those heated tiles. Well, it gets cool up there, man. Yeah, it can get really cold.
Starting point is 00:09:25 It's nice to be able to walk barefoot and then sit down on your throne. And there was a two person shower, two separate shower heads, shower pressure and heat was very great. They really put a lot of their attention. Shower pressure note. I mean, these things really matter
Starting point is 00:09:43 when you're talking about glamping. The difference between camping and glamping- I mean, shower pressure is important. Is heat, shower pressure, and I didn't know it, but heated floors in the bathroom. But it's not a Motel 6. I mean, if they don't get hot water, I mean, first of all, Motel 6 is gonna give you hot water too.
Starting point is 00:09:58 But you don't know about the pressure. And you also don't know about the mattress. The mattress could have been a little bit better. The sheets could have been a little bit better, but I'm mattress. The mattress could have been a little bit better. The sheets could have been a little bit better, but I'm spoiled. The sheets could have been better? We got some sheets at home that are like just T-shirt. They're so soft.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And these have been like Clorox to death, which makes us feel good. So, Christy and I are having this conversation and we're not complaining because it's like, well, you know they're clean because they're- They're hard? They're a little hard. And they feel like they've been bleached to death.
Starting point is 00:10:28 What I'm really trying to say is you've got the environment of camping, but it's glamorous in there. Oh yeah. I was very much looking forward to staying for three nights so that I could get two full days of just Christy and I just hanging out, just being together. Like there are trails that you can go on around there,
Starting point is 00:10:48 but we were like, we're not gonna do that. This is just about us hanging out. We're not doing the hiking thing. Christy had some sort of, and she might develop a reputation. The first time she's on this podcast, one of the first things she says is, I have diarrhea. So leading up to this trip, she had diarrhea.
Starting point is 00:11:11 But she had- Well, you didn't have to say it. She had gotten it under, well, it plays into what happened. Okay. So yeah, I do have to say it. All right. And with her permission. But she is developing a reputation as the diarrhea woman.
Starting point is 00:11:25 She had gotten it under control. It kind of subsided in the two days leading up to our trip. And then we're driving the five and a half hour drive to Big Sur and we stop at Pismo Beach. You remember in 2008 for the Great American Road Trip, we were- World's largest clam. We were trying to make a song called the World's Largest Song,
Starting point is 00:11:46 which is basically just footage of us in front of the world's largest tourist trap stuff, which we drove way out of our way to go to Pismo Beach. The Pez Museum was also there though, wasn't it? That was outside of San Francisco in Burlingame. Same trip. Burlingame. And then, matter of fact, there's a place north of there called Castroville
Starting point is 00:12:08 that has the world's largest artichoke. You remember going there? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember we did our Thursday night Rhett and Link cast live from the RV with very sketchy internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From the parking lot of the world's largest artichoke,
Starting point is 00:12:24 which is basically just like a paper mache slash concrete artichoke edifice on the side of a diner. Which also the world's largest clam is also just a concrete thing. And these are not impressive things. That says, welcome to Pismo Beach. So I'm like, Christy, I've been here. And so then it was lunchtime, so we stopped,
Starting point is 00:12:45 we found a highly rated place right on the beach. We were able to like watch the surf and we ate this like lobster crab roll. And then we get back in the car and Christy's like, I'm not feeling good. I think some urgency is returning. Oh wow. And I need some more medicine.
Starting point is 00:13:07 So we're like going to get some anti-diarrheal medicine. Trip really started off with a bang. This is great. I mean, cause you think about, all right, we're gonna get to this. She was okay, but there was like rumblings. Right. You know, when you're on that road trip
Starting point is 00:13:25 and you get the rumbles, that's a little disconcerting. And I mean, I'm assuming that you guys are, and you've actually talked about this, but like, and we're the same way, it's like when you're on vacation and you're married with children, you get to the hotel room and it's- First thing you wanna do is take a liquid shit.
Starting point is 00:13:44 No, it's not. You want to the hotel room and it's game on. First thing you wanna do is take a liquid shit. No, it's not. You want to get it on. You wanna break in that cabin. You wanna just bend it over and tell that cabin to submit. Where is the cabin so involved? You gotta get the, oh yeah, it's every part, involve every part of the cabin. You might have to hold onto the wall or something.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah, hold onto those antlers. There were no antlers. I mean, we do get there, by the time we got there, she's like texting the doctor's office because she had read this thing about like how raw onions. There was a salmonella outbreak. A salmonella outbreak. Nationwide, like 37 states.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And she was pretty convinced that that's what was happening. Yeah. And so we get there and yeah, there's no like walking into the cabin and getting it going. It's like- Unless it's a bathroom trip. Hey, heated floors.
Starting point is 00:14:40 You don't want anything to land on this heated floors because I guess it would start to cook. Okay, God. You don't wanna hear a sizzle from the floor because I guess it would start to cook. Okay, God. You don't want to hear a sizzle from the other room. You know what I'm saying? I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. That didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And the floor wasn't that hot. It was just warm for the record. But we finally get there and I had, like after we left there and she was feeling bad and she's like on the phone with the doctor and trying to like troubleshoot this salmonella stuff, if that's what's been going on with her.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I'm like, grab that cold brew out of the back because we're not gonna stop for me to have the coffee that I need at three o'clock in the afternoon. And I just drank a cold, I pulled over on the side of the road. I drank a cold brew while Christy sat in the car and took an anti-nausea pill because then that was happening
Starting point is 00:15:32 on these like curvy PCH roads. And there's, the thing I didn't know about that area is there's nothing to stop at. I mean, there's- There's pull-offs so you can like look at scenery and that's the beauty of Big Sur is that- But there's like, oh, this is a little town. Oh, is there a restaurant here?
Starting point is 00:15:46 Is there a place that we can get a cup of coffee? Like, you'll go very long stretches with nothing. Nothing. It's pristine, but you don't really have, you gotta bring the stuff with you. I didn't want her vomiting from being car sick as well as everything else we established. So I gave her 20 minutes sitting in the car-
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, that's a rough road. while I downed my cold brew. And then a couple hours later, by the time we get there, I'm like, man, I'm feeling bad too. I'm feeling like super wired. Like I drink way too much cold brew and I felt absolutely horrible. Like my head was spinning. I hadn't eaten anything.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Like I was also a little car sick. She was sick. You guys aren't even gonna be able to make it. This is a great start to our Big Sur trip. You specialize in good starts to trips though. I'm telling you, man. The doctor called in just for out of safety, called in antibiotic, but we had to drive
Starting point is 00:16:41 another hour and a half north, now in the dark, to Carmel. Past. We had to drive all the way to Carmel in order to find the nearest- Pharmacy. Rite Aid, CVS, whatever it was. Yeah. So she goes up there and she gets her anti-diarrheal stuff and she gets her prescription medications and I'm plopping down a couple of enemas.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I'm like, we've got opposite problems here. Good Lord. Cold brew doesn't clean me out. When I travel, I can't get anything going. So we're like bookends on a sad bookshelf here. I mean, first of all- This is our first night. Just so you know, I mean, this is probably how every vacation is gonna start 20 years from now,
Starting point is 00:17:21 but you're just getting an early start to it. I bought four of those enemas and I'm just gonna have to carry them with me like a gunsling years from now, but you're just getting an early start to it. I bought four of those enemas and I'm just gonna have to carry them with me like a gunslinger from now on. It's like, I gotta get holsters for these things every time I travel. Oh. I mean, you say that I'm-
Starting point is 00:17:35 What about the fiber? Routine oriented, like- It doesn't help. My smoothie in the morning, I don't take my smoothie stuff when I went on vacation. I'm gonna eat like the breakfast burritos and whatnot. You know what? I actually thought about this recently.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I think it's legitimately good to, if you eat the same thing every single morning, to take a break from it on vacation. Don't try to- I kinda thought that too. Don't try to bring your smoothie situation, first of all, bringing your smoothie situation on vacation would be annoying to everyone who was with you. But also I think- There's only one person.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Well, your wife would be very annoyed, but legitimately, I think you should take a break from the same ingredients over and over again every single day. It can be a little bit of a shock to a system, but I think it is a good practice. Yeah, it's nothing that shoving a needle nose squish bottle up your rectum-
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah, you just intimate out. And squeezing won't fix. Yeah. I'm sorry this is such a visceral start to the episode. Yeah. I don't think it's gonna get better, but it is gonna get sexier. I can talk about glitter boobs.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Shop Best Buy's ultimate smartphone sale today. Get a Best Buy gift card of up to $200 on select phone activations with major carriers. Visit your nearest Best Buy store today. Terms and conditions apply. We got the stuff in her system and we got the stuff out of my system. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And you guys just need to get together. But it was like, you know what? Tonight's just a wash. Let's forget it. And hopefully we did wash. We did wash and we just started, you know, start over with a clean slate in the morning. We woke up both feeling better.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Her issues were behind her. You're not even trying. And it started raining a lot. Ooh. Like it wasn't like a hurricane or anything. But there was like- But it was a lot of rain. The most rain in the shortest period of time
Starting point is 00:19:35 that Northern California has ever seen. Well, yeah, in the Central Coast, they called it like a bomb storm. Like the word bomb was part of it. Yeah, I can't remember what it was, but yeah, it was nuts. And so we got out, we got some coffee across the street with our umbrellas, we come back to the room and it's, I mean, we got this nice cabin.
Starting point is 00:19:58 We got nothing to do but each other. And so it was actually perfect. We were, I mean, that's what we did, each other. And with nowhere else to go, with nowhere else to be, I mean, a lot of times when you go on a vacation, you know, there's things you wanna do, there's things you wanna tick off the checklist, there's people that you're gonna hang out with
Starting point is 00:20:23 that maybe you're traveling with, like your brother and sister-in-law. Yeah. Like without any of that, and with no kids around, it was like a glorious focus on just the two of us. And it was- Better than a puzzle, for sure. And let me tell you,
Starting point is 00:20:40 the rain made it an amazing experience. Did you go outside? The Judds have a song, Rockin' to the Rhythm of the Rain. Oh yeah, the Judds. That's a good song. The Judds will get me going anytime. We didn't play the Judds,
Starting point is 00:20:53 but I did think about it as we were rocking to the rhythm of the rain. We didn't go outside to- Make love in the rain. To make love in the rain. We stayed in this amazing cabin. And then we were like, you know what? Let's just lay here and listen to the rain.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I was playing some music at a certain point that was like ambient sounds that complimented the rain, but I just killed that noise. I mean, if you tell your smart speaker or your sleep device or whatever to play rain sounds, this is a legitimate top tier way to relax and go to sleep. Oh yeah. It's manufactured and comes out of your smart speakers.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Right. I think for the first time in my life, I experienced it in its most pristine form. The night before- You've never heard the rain on the roof? Well, the night before we noticed that we weren't in a redwood grove where we were, we were in an actually an oak grove
Starting point is 00:21:57 and acorns would fall and hit the roof of our cabin and scare the shit out of us because, well, because of the problems we were having that first night. No, because it was just so loud. And I thought someone was like knocking on the, well, somebody was walking on the roof. It was- One inch, one foot at a time.
Starting point is 00:22:18 You had to get used to it. But then when you add, when you replace that with rain, it was a literal sound bath. And it was an amazing experience just to lay there. And it was so meditative. I mean, to have that thing that you can pull up on a YouTube video so that you can study or fall asleep, to experience that in its most natural form.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yeah, I had never experienced a legitimate rain serenade. On a hot tan roof? It was, I mean, it was a highlight of my life. Especially sexing in the rain, man. That was amazing. I know how you tend to get enthusiastic about things like this. Cause I want, I make a decision to drink in life
Starting point is 00:23:07 in those moments and say, you know what? It doesn't get any better than this. Other things are gonna be, and this is me talking. Well, no, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So I'm trying to figure out. It doesn't get any better than this. Things have gotten this good,
Starting point is 00:23:18 but nothing is going to get better than this. Well, no, yeah. You make a decision to do it, but you also make a decision to say that you're doing it and to try to get everybody else to do it too. So I'm just saying, was Christy like, yeah, I'm- Oh, she was with me. She's shaking her head at you.
Starting point is 00:23:33 She was with me. I mean, it was really magical. I think she, you know, she's taken up the range too. I mean, no one wants to be like, hey, listen, you need to just, I get it. This is awesome. But I don't need you to tell me that it's awesome. I do understand that.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And I wasn't doing it forever. I mean, we literally just laid there and listened to the rain. For how long? I don't want to ever forget it. Definitely over an hour. And this is after like many hours of intense lovemaking. Oh man, give me a break.
Starting point is 00:24:13 No, it wasn't many hours, but when you don't have anything else to do besides each other, you can stretch everything out. And it's nice to get reacquainted with that and say, hey, remember on our honeymoon when we did it so much that we were walking like cowboys? Let's see if we can match that. Let's see if we can have multiple sessions.
Starting point is 00:24:36 But you find yourself saying, hey, actually, you know what? Let's just listen to the rain for an hour. It might take me that long to re-up. That way after that first session, the perspective changes. The rain cleared up by mid-afternoon and we went back to the place that you guys had recommended that we had been before called Nepenthe or, it's right on the coast.
Starting point is 00:24:59 It's like there's a bookstore and a restaurant and you sit on the back of the restaurant and you over, you just look at the ocean. It's absolutely amazing. We saw an amazing sunset and we're like talking to the waiter, like making friends, laughing louder than anybody else there. Like I said last episode,
Starting point is 00:25:22 it's just like just feeling in the zone, feeling like, oh, look, we're having the most fun. We're connecting. We're like, it feels like we're on our honeymoon again. And we're watching this beautiful sunset and look over at Christie's purse. And it had been up on the, we were sitting at a bar so we could both sit shoulder to shoulder and watch the sunset.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Like that was the best seat in the house. And up on that bar, her bag was like open and it turns out something was spilling out of it. And every time that anyone walked by or the person sitting right beside Christy on the other side could definitely see that she had a huge box of anti-diarrheal medication just out there in front of everybody.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And Christy's like putting it away at the end of our whole meal, after being there for like two hours. And we're like talking to the guy about it. He's like, yeah, I saw that, but I didn't wanna say anything. So it's even though, I don't know, it just wouldn't leave us.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Like it was, the diarrhea was a specter. Well, yeah, when you need to be ready. We ate at that, we had just a coffee at that place. It's a cool spot, man. And it was a very wild bird that was very aggressively eating people's food. Oh, there wasn't one of those. Off of their table.
Starting point is 00:26:46 They must've shot him. Must've killed him. I might've been eating him. I ate a chicken sandwich. Next day we got up and there was no rain in the forecast for that day. So I'm like, all right, today's the day that we're gonna go down by the river.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And again, no hiking. We're gonna go into like full meditative retreat mode. They take these Adirondack chairs. Are you familiar? Yeah, I believe so. Well, describe it. Adirondack chair to me is one of those, it's like high back made out of wood.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah, you just kind of leans back a little bit. Yeah. And you're kind of low to the ground. They had taken pairs of those and put them in the Big Sur River. Cause the river is basically just really wide stream. And there's lots of places where you can just sit on the rocks.
Starting point is 00:27:34 So we just went down there and sat for a while and just did nothing. Feet in the water? Too cold for that. I was like, I'm gonna get totally ready for this. I'm gonna put on my new sweatshirt. I don't know if you've noticed. This is the moment.
Starting point is 00:27:49 This is the moment you explain your sweatshirt. I ordered this thing off an Instagram ad. Shout out to my friend Todd Snyder, teaming up with LL Bean. And I'm like- It makes quite a statement. I'm like, I think this is, how do you say, ironic, but not really. It kind of says, I don't really go camping, but I like the idea of camping.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yes. And this isn't, I think this is Maine. You know, you got some ducks flying, you got some fall foliage going all the way down the sleeves on this thing. Yeah, it's quite a print. That's not easy to do. I did get a compliment or two for it.
Starting point is 00:28:34 What did they say? I think it was something like- A nice sweatshirt? What did he say? We were in one of these like little, you'll find a little bookstore on the edge of the, with some like philosophical stuff. People doing a lot of introspection up in that place.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah, I think he said something like, that sweatshirt is hot. Not hot, maybe he was like, fire. I don't think he said no cap, I can't remember. But who was this guy? It was just a dude who seemed cool. How old? He was a little younger than me.
Starting point is 00:29:04 So I think it worked for him. It definitely worked for me. And I got the photos to prove it. So here I am sitting in the Big Sur River in an Adirondack chair wearing my turtleneck sweatshirt. What were the feet? Where the main scene. They were on the rocks.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It was just too, it was a little too cold. But okay, but- Put your feet in the water. It's not like in the water. It's like on a rock in the river. Right, right, right, right. Every Canadian dairy farm is unique. That's why every farmer takes charge
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Starting point is 00:30:29 Terms apply. So it's just another day of nothing and kind of looking, like walking around the grounds of this place, going back to the room, having another love-making session. It's just, you know, it's just like you set your parameters small and then it's just a lot of, you know what?
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'm gonna be naked. I'm gonna be naked. Literally there's something about, I'm gonna make something cry. I was like, I'm gonna be naked in this cabin. Oh yeah. For a long time. And there's something about Big Sur that does that to you because when we were up there, we had, in the tree house,
Starting point is 00:31:07 we had the fire and then I was just like, why do, clothes? Why? Yes. And I was- And that's why, when you're talking about the glitter boots and stuff, it's like, I'm actually, I was much more open to that story and like putting a tube sock on my package. It's one thing to be in a cabin, another thing to be on Duval Street in Key West.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I know, but maybe it's a slippery slope. Not for me. I think my feet are firmly gripping the ground there. I love being naked. And I realized that there's a freedom in that, that like something we were watching that I'll talk to you about kind of informed this mindset. So again, I'll get to that, but the experience was,
Starting point is 00:31:48 you know what, this is my body. These are our bodies and we're into each other and we're not into clothes. And let's just- Yeah, who needs them? And we bought our own blanket because we brought our favorite blanket. So, I mean, a little blanket is nice, but there's just something magical about being together
Starting point is 00:32:10 and just saying, you know what? We need not clothing. It just felt edifying. It felt like, okay, I'm comfortable, I'm accepted. We know each other, we can do this. Cause it's not the type of thing that you normally do. I mean, I don't walk around my house naked. Well, no, I mean, you got children.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Right. But I do anticipate, now, first of all- I definitely do too. I do walk around my house naked. If I am naked and I need to get something from downstairs, there are, and I'm like, I don't wanna put on anything. I'm gonna go down and get, I got two boys and it's just, but it isn't a regular thing, but I do anticipate
Starting point is 00:32:57 when the kids move out that it will become a normal thing. I like that idea for me in my house. I mean, why not? And then there's a pool and you can, I mean, I'll jump into that pool naked at the right time. Yeah. If the right people aren't looking out the windows or the neighbors aren't home or something.
Starting point is 00:33:12 There's a couple of vantage points from other yards, I think, in my pool, but. It was everything I hoped it would be. It's not that there's that much to report. It's just, and I think that's the point, is that I had this idea. And again, I'll have ideas of how I want things to go. And, but it was, and it started off really rough
Starting point is 00:33:36 and I didn't let it get to me. And even in day two, when like things cleared up and I'm wearing the sweatshirt and we're out in the river or we're back just being in our nakedness, did everything go exactly how I had written in the novel in my mind? Of course not. And Christy knows this about me.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And so there's certain points where she can see the eyebrows crinkle a little bit, or she can hear a little intonation is something I'm saying, and she can graciously redirect my, me to let go of my expectations and enjoy what we have and what we're doing. But it was, and so that happened at a couple of points,
Starting point is 00:34:20 but overall, it was just such a beautiful experience of us just being together with very little agenda and very little clothes. Did you, it was something I noticed that is unusual and like I noted it and Jessie noted it was how quickly I adjusted to vacation, which is not an easy thing for me to do. Now we worked, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:49 we don't typically travel in October unless it's for work. And so putting something in the middle of October, which just the way that the year is stacked, it tends to be our busiest time. And what happens when we travel is it isn't like anything, we do less, it's just, we do more and it gets pushed on either side of the trip., it's just we do more and it gets pushed on either side of the trip and it's just the schedule
Starting point is 00:35:07 gets really packed on each side of the trip. And we were working, when I got home on the Wednesday night before leaving on a Thursday morning, I was so worn out. And there's so many things kind of going on in my mind and things that I could latch onto and worry about at any given time. But something like when I got off the plane, I kind of made this decision. I was like, I'm not gonna worry about anything work-related.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I'm not gonna think about the stuff that I could be doing. And also, I'm not going to obsess about all the seven different things that I could see in Key West. I've got these people here who know the place, they've made reservations, I'm just gonna be along for the ride. And I actually had one of the better times
Starting point is 00:35:50 that I've ever had because I- Wasn't in charge. Well, I wasn't in charge, but also it was like, there's certain things that I didn't see. I didn't go into Ernest Hemingway's house, which I could have done, right? As an example, it's like,
Starting point is 00:36:03 so everybody says, good, take the tour. We didn't go. And then I was like, hey, leave something to do the next time you come. Whatever, who cares? It's very hard for me to be in the moment. And for some reason, because we were working so hard right up until that moment,
Starting point is 00:36:19 I found myself being able to do that more than I ever have. And I was like, am I reaching an age where I can do it? Is that what's happening? It's crazy, I was thinking the same thing. On our drive back the next day, I told Christy, I was like, you know what, for the past two days, I don't think I thought about work. And it was, I mean, we had internet in the room.
Starting point is 00:36:42 When you're walking around and outside of your cabin, we didn't have any service, so that helps. But yeah, I mean, it felt like one of the, cause usually you go for a week long vacation and it takes half the time to get to the point where you're no longer thinking about the stuff. And then as you're starting, as it creeps back to when you're coming back into the real world,
Starting point is 00:37:03 you start thinking about it again. You start thinking about the fact that the vacation is over. Right, so then there's like, oh man, we gotta go home on Tuesday. There might be one day of a sweet spot in the middle where you didn't think of anything. But yeah, I actually noticed,
Starting point is 00:37:14 I haven't thought about work the past two days. I gave myself permission to do that and I think I needed it enough. And I wanted to provide focus on the right things. And it was just, yeah, it's kind of what you want a vacation to be, even though it was only two full days for us and a travel day on either side,
Starting point is 00:37:38 that even being in the car was nice, cause it's such a scenic drive and everything. So yeah, I mean, I definitely think that was my takeaway is that with this particular trip, you got the beauty of the ocean, the cliffs, the redwoods, and it just bring, I would put it on that for me that it brought me into this meditative state. And apparently a good Floridian Island
Starting point is 00:38:04 will do the same thing if you're in the right circumstances. It's nice that we're both having that experience. It may be, it could just be, we haven't traveled in a while. Yeah. Cause I just, I noted it and I was like, man, I like, I adjusted quickly. How do I make sure I do this next time?
Starting point is 00:38:23 I know, for real. I mean, it's not easy, but. But there's one house that has like, it's called a bridge house. You have to walk across the suspension bridge across the Big Sur River. And then it has two bedrooms and then a kitchen and a nice living room area.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And there's a barrel sauna outside right next to the river with a picnic table and bocce ball and like these amazing rings of- You getting a sauna? I didn't rent that. It was, this was the place I want us to go back to. Oh. And then if we bring other friends, there's like,
Starting point is 00:39:02 they created these standalone bedrooms that are like super nice that like you could, you bring some other people. It's like, I definitely wanna go back and do that. And October, that's the perfect time. You get that rain, but then it goes away and there's not all the fog coming off of- We got lucky when we went in June.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Not a lot of fog. Which is usually super foggy and it just, we got lucky. But the thing that Christy and I watched in our downtime, when we just couldn't go at each other anymore, was this goop series on Netflix called Sex, Love and Goop. I've seen the trailer. So of course goop is the Gwyneth Paltrow, it's not just wellness, it's all types of stuff
Starting point is 00:39:52 and it's what- Just Gwyneth stuff. Years ago she got flack for like saying, oh put this egg in your vagina for a long time and- Jade egg. The jade egg and she got- So you named your dog after it. She got a lot of pushback for stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And she did a mini series, a goop series on Netflix, like a year ago. That was a bunch of like, I don't know, you spend a lot of money on something that's very questionable. It seems like that's kind of the reputation with what she's putting out into the world. But this new series,
Starting point is 00:40:26 she's not really the center of it. And we watched the whole thing while we were there and that's my recommendation. But I wanted to talk through some of this stuff with you because it's basically a episodic docu-series on sexual healing of real life couples paired with a sexologist. Is that a sex therapist? I would've called him
Starting point is 00:40:50 a sex therapist, but they're- Sexologist sounds more sciencey. Sexologist. Wanted to jump in here and give a clarification. This is after recording everything that you're currently listening to, we had a discussion about goop in light of the fact that a lot of controversy came to light
Starting point is 00:41:12 after we recorded me talking about that goop series. And the controversy, I mean, controversy is nothing new to goop, but I just wanted to say, there's certain therapeutic practices that are platformed in the series that people are pointing out are illegal in most states, highly questionable. The one that I know about specifically is not one that I'm telling you about in this episode.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Right. But in general, I just wanted to say, I'm not endorsing any of these practices. I don't know enough to do that. And I hope you know enough to like use your own judgment. I'm basically just saying, this was a fascinating show to watch and be exposed to. And it just got me thinking about some things
Starting point is 00:41:57 that I'm not saying are entirely right or even entirely legal because I don't know. So I'm just putting that out there and framing this whole conversation with caution that you need to be responsible for yourself and how you apply any of the stuff from that series, if at all, no endorsements. And I'll add that if you didn't already know,
Starting point is 00:42:23 goop is not, it doesn't necessarily have the reputation for being the most reliable or evidence-based source of lifestyle and health advice. You know, there's a number of things that have come up in the past few years, but we are entertained by the way that they go about things. So again, whatever Link said, I agree with. This is not an endorsement. We were entertained by the way that they go about things. So again, whatever Link said, I agree with. This is not an endorsement.
Starting point is 00:42:48 We were entertained by this thing, but because of this recent controversy. Whatever I said, you weren't listening to us? No. Okay. He agrees with what I said. But we just want, we- He endorses my non-endorsement. We know how the internet is,
Starting point is 00:42:59 and we know that when you talk about something that's controversial, people assume that is an endorsement. We wanted to confirm that it is not an endorsement. Now let's go back to it. And so these are real people who like, from all walks of life, you got old people, you got a lesbian couple, you've got people dealing with challenges in being intimate
Starting point is 00:43:21 or like they're being a mismatch in what drives them. And then, so it's kind of like seeing the therapeutic techniques that they're experiencing firsthand. And sometimes with multiple hands involved as I'll get to. And it gets wild and really out there in a couple of key places. One that I'll tell you about,
Starting point is 00:43:46 but I really enjoyed the heart behind this thing. I mean, Christie recommended it and said, "'Hey, let's watch this thing." And I thought, okay, this will be fun. This might make us horny. That's what I was thinking. But then it was actually very eye-opening and educational. Some people might describe parts of it as pornographic or it might make you uncomfortable, It was actually very eye-opening and educational.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Some people might describe parts of it as pornographic or it might make you uncomfortable. But if you've been through sex temper, I think you're probably be ready to check this thing out. But I give it to these couples who are like totally normal people with normal problems in their relationships. And they're like super vulnerable in the stuff that they were asked to do on camera what was the last thing that filled you with wonder that took you away from your desk or your car in traffic well for us i'm gonna guess for some of you that thing is
Starting point is 00:44:39 hi i'm nick friedman i'm leo Alec Murray. And I'm Leah President. And welcome to Crunchyroll Presents The Anime Effect. It's a weekly news show. With the best celebrity guests. And hot takes galore. So join us every Friday wherever you get your podcasts and watch full video episodes on Crunchyroll or on the Crunchyroll YouTube channel. But one of the things that one of these sexologists talked about was an erotic blueprint test that determines the way in which you best receive pleasure. And this is something that like,
Starting point is 00:45:13 I was able to connect a few dots with this, but I had not heard about it. It's like a love language for sex? Yeah, so the different erotic blueprints are energetic, sensual, sexual, kinky, or shape-shifter. So energetic means you're aroused by anticipation and yearning.
Starting point is 00:45:35 So it's like, it's not what is happening, it's what's about to happen. Like, am I ready for this? And it's foreplay, but then sometimes it goes into more of this like woo energy thing, which I'll talk about. Second one is sensual. So you're turned on when all the senses are ignited.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Remember how many there are, five or six? Like the vaginas in a candle. Yeah, so like sight, smell, touch. What are the other ones? Rubbing, insertion. Sound. Sounds. Taste.
Starting point is 00:46:15 The next one is sexual, which is excited by nudity and or other traditional sexual characteristics. A lot of this is associated with the sexy bits, you know? Okay. The parts that you're supposed to cover up on. Like the ankles. To be decent. Angles?
Starting point is 00:46:35 Ankles. I'm really into ankles. No, I'm talking about the twigs, the berries. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The- Tunnel of love. The nappy dugout. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:46 As Ice Cube called it and something. So, and that's the one that you tend to think about. Like, okay, when sexual stuff is what I'm, is at play when you're activated sexually. Yep. But only that stuff. Kinky, aroused by taboo. And then shapeshifter is just all of the above. Yep. But only that stuff. Kinky, aroused by taboo. And then shape shifter is just all of the above.
Starting point is 00:47:09 So Christian, I mean, it doesn't, it's not a teaching series. It's more like they're sharing this with the people in order so that this one particular couple could understand how they would, how to kind of like a love language thing. How do they like meet each other's expectations? And like, she's putting one of them on a table
Starting point is 00:47:26 and then it's like, okay, based on your survey, you're kinky. And she's like, oh, I am. And then he like gets out, she gives, the sexologist gives her partner a paddle and he like- And he's like, I'm not kinky. He starts- I'm just a high school principal. He was, I mean, his eyebrows are going up all the time
Starting point is 00:47:45 as he's like trying to like figure out how hard does she like to be spanked with this paddle. Right. And then there's like the whips and the thing, like the big thing with the chains hanging from it. And it's like, well, you don't whip the person with this. You just slowly drape it on them
Starting point is 00:48:04 and drape it on her crotch. And then you have the weight of these chains. Just the feeling of chains. I think she was like sensual and kinky, if I remember correctly. But then they switch up and they put him on the table. I'm a golfer. He wasn't like that, but like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:48:27 they gave him like Wolverine claws to like start scratching down her body and like a very, no blood was drawn. Right, yeah. It was very approachable. It made Kinky approachable. You're a big Wolverine fan. It did make me think that I was a shape shifter
Starting point is 00:48:42 because no matter what I saw, I wanted to try. I could try that. But they put- That feels like the page I'm on so Wolverine fan. It did make me think that I was a shape shifter because no matter what I saw, I wanted to try. I could try that. But they put- That feels like the page I'm on so far, yeah. They put him on the table and then the sexologist is like, you are an energetic. And then he started like talking about like, put your hands over the person.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Do you feel the energy? And I'm like, okay, here we go. I don't believe in any of this shit. But then they started, he started being touched in a way that the dude had what is called an energetic orgasm. He came in his pants without being touched. He had a full, I don't know if he ejaculated in his britches.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Well, that's an orgasm. But his whole body was shaking. He was like, he started crying. It was wild. It really was wild. And I didn't know this was a thing. And then they're like, okay, yeah, this is what you are and this is what-
Starting point is 00:49:39 What happened though? Just hand placement without touching? Honestly, I can't remember all the specifics of what they did to him. Maybe it was because of- Nothing was vibrating, like under the table that we couldn't see? Nothing that I saw.
Starting point is 00:49:53 You'll have to watch it for yourself if you wanna really, I can't remember the specifics of what they did. It was more about the result and him knowing that this was his sexual love language, his erotic blueprint. But then the sexologist is like, now let me show you where you can go with this, basically.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Since this is a way that you're able to get off and you guys can learn that from each other. Go stand next to a transformer? No, just sit here and watch me. And then the sexologist lays down on the table, fully clothed. Uh-oh. And she's like, I'd like to introduce you
Starting point is 00:50:32 to my business and life partner. And this middle-aged bald dude comes out and he looks like a, I mean, he's got like a golf shirt on. I don't remember what he had on. What was his name? I remember that, I don't remember, like Raymond or something like that. It was, but he looked like an evil Bond villain.
Starting point is 00:50:54 He had a, I wouldn't say that his head was bulbous, but it was bald and all of his facial features were kind of concentrated on the lower half of his face. It's better that way. So it's kind of, it was kind of like- That way you can see, smell and taste things that are all at the same time. And he had a smirk, but he didn't really talk.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And then all of a sudden, he starts putting his hands over his partner and he never ever touched her. It's like David Copperfield. And it was kind of like this super villain magician type thing. And he had one hand, it was kind of, you know, when Lord of the Rings, when Sauron kind of like
Starting point is 00:51:29 put his hand over the Palantir and like, he had like, his hand was like, it was kind of like he was drawing a connection with Sauron out of that crystal ball. And like his fingernails and his hand was like getting like twiggy. It was like weird and like- That happened on Netflix? Like this dude, well, what he did was he did that
Starting point is 00:51:54 with his hand above her head and then- She got her eyes closed? Kind of over her crotch. Oh, puppeteer. And he looked like he was pulling on strings like a freaking puppeteer. And he looked like he was pulling on strings like a freaking puppeteer. And then she is just going crazy. Like she is undulating, having a full body orgasm
Starting point is 00:52:15 all over this table. All over the table. Like she was writhing all over the table, moaning and arching her back and putting her knees in the air and throwing her legs all over the place. Good Lord. Anding her back and putting her knees in the air and throwing her legs all over the place. And he was never touching her, but doing this thing that,
Starting point is 00:52:33 from my perspective, it was an elaborate performance. Well, can I- And I think so- Having not seen it. It was wild. I didn't really buy it, but the other guy totally bought. Well, here's the thing. You know like, this hasn't happened to me recently,
Starting point is 00:52:51 but I've done it with my kids where you're like- Doing it with your kids. No, you're tickling your kids. And then you've got them held down. And then you get really close to tickle them and they laugh because it's the anticipation of getting tickled. Like I think-
Starting point is 00:53:07 And they would call that an energetic response. I think that it is, like, I mean, listen, I don't know. I don't claim to know things about metaphysical things anymore. That's kind of where I'm at. But the idea that there's literally like some energy field that he's kind of running through her vagina and then coming out of the top of her head
Starting point is 00:53:27 and literally, what was the guy in Pinocchio? Geppetto. He was geppettoing his woman. I don't think that's what's happening, but the idea is so powerful that her mind is literally able to activate a sexual response. I totally believe that that could happen.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I agree with that. And there was no denying that this guy who was in tears and like took him hours to recover from what happened to him on the table is, it just seemed like it was a very extreme demonstration that might, I don't know, the waters got kind of muddied for me. And you expect a little bit of that from a goop thing.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yeah, it's gotta be a little goopy. If not a lot. A little goopy. You gotta get goopy. There was a couple other goopy moments too that those are great reasons to watch and just for your jaw to drop. But again, I have to recommend it because the way that these couples were so vulnerable
Starting point is 00:54:30 and the sexual component to their relationship, and one of the things that clicked early on was they said, one of the sexperts said that, you know, lovemaking is a skill. It's like a craft. And it was really cool for us to be watching it and then to have all of this time where it's like, okay, we don't have anywhere to be or anything else to do.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Just raining. And so we can like actually embrace this as something that we're, there's still a lot to learn about our own bodies and about each other's bodies. And I never heard of these classifications, you know? Had you? Energetic, sensual, sexual, kinky, shape shifter? Not in that, no, not broken down like that.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Right, and knowing that there might be a mismatch to like the woman in that couple was like, am I gonna have an orgasm at any point in my life? Am I gonna, she said, am I gonna have an orgasm before I have a baby? Cause I think they were thinking about trying to have kids, but like she kind of wanted to check that box, you know, and as she should,
Starting point is 00:55:44 but I was blown away by just the vulnerability and just how, because I haven't read a lot of those books, which I'm sure you could get some of this stuff from, it was a cool introduction to it. And it has some sensational parts that really popped that made it a lot of fun to watch. We're gonna bring a sexologist in for sex timber 2022. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Right, I mean, I don't think I could fit on this table right here. I mean, would you lay down on- You have to bring in a different table. For a Netflix- My head would go out that side, my feet would be out this side. Like, I mean, a lot of these people,
Starting point is 00:56:19 they will be like, I'm gonna do this on Netflix. Like they would say that as part of it. Well, they're getting paid. I mean, probably a pretty significant amount. You know, I was very cool. What I will say, it's interesting, we had very different trips, but there are parallels even in this area.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And I think that this is, again, this is typical of vacations for me and Jessie and you and Christy, as you've described. But I actually wasn't with Jessie the entire week leading up because she went to North Carolina at the beginning of the week and was kind of hanging out with her family there
Starting point is 00:56:56 and then went down to the Keys on Wednesday. So I'm flying down on Thursday night. So we haven't seen each other for like four days. Oh, that's a good technique. Send her early. Well, she sent herself. Had some business to take care of in North Carolina. And you know, like,
Starting point is 00:57:14 I got in at like 6.30. So she is, they're all ready to go out for dinner, right? And so like Chris picks me up, but Jessie's there. And like, she like steps out of the car and she's like in her little black dress and all made up and her heels. She didn't drive up on a bike. No, she did not.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And I'm like, okay, well, what time is dinner? You know what I'm saying? Because we have a little bit of time, let's go to the hotel room. And I mean, it was very intense. And that's a great way to start. Meet on the vacation. Don't travel there together.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Now I'm not saying we had sex at the airport. I'm saying we waited till we got back to the hotel room. And then there's always this thing, kind of what you were getting at before, which is like, sometimes in a relationship, if there's like pre-dinner sex, sometimes you're less motivated after dinner, right? You're kind of like, oh, well, no, we followed up dinner
Starting point is 00:58:20 and then proceeded to, I mean, it was like- You hit a reset button at dinner. And then it was like, it became a thing. It was like, this is gonna happen multiple times a day, the whole time that we're together. And of course the whole dynamic that we talked about during sex timber, where you have to kind of get yourself into a place where you're willing to not care
Starting point is 00:58:40 about people hearing you and people in the room next to you hearing you and that kind of thing. But we got there very quickly and kind of maintain that. And we didn't really talk, we didn't talk about it. And we talked about how we were having a really great time and how we were really connecting and we enjoy being with each other. But yeah, it was a really,
Starting point is 00:59:02 we were very in sync, much more than when we were kayaking. I mean, I thought about trying to slip off and have sex on the kayak considering how well things were going. Maybe that would have solved some problems, but no, that didn't happen. But yeah, it was a really good time for that kind of connection.
Starting point is 00:59:20 But maybe, I mean, I haven't done the puppeteer thing, so maybe I gotta watch this thing and figure it out. Yeah, that's what I'm telling you, man. So that's my recommendation actually for this one is the goop, sex, love and goop. And you know, I've told you what you're signing up for. If you want, if so, if you're not into that, you shouldn't watch it.
Starting point is 00:59:39 And it's like, yeah, you're gonna, there's some eye rolly parts to it, but it's like, I'll just take it with a grain of salt. You don't have to agree with everything in order to get something out of it. That's what I feel about it. Well, you know, that's one of the things I most enjoy about sort of my post evangelical life.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah. As an evangelical Christian, there was, for me, there was always this, I was in a very defensive and protective mode with every single thing that I enjoyed, every single thing that I watched, every single conversation that I was in. You're kind of always on guard for, is this an, first of all, if you're with people,
Starting point is 01:00:17 is this an opportunity to witness to them? But then when you're watching something, you're trying to make sure that it's going through the proper grid and you're classifying these people as this isn't good, this is not Christ-like, this is not biblical. You're either in or you're out. So yeah, everything was assessing that.
Starting point is 01:00:34 And there's an interesting thing with when I don't know. Is it right or wrong? Are you in or you're out? And that grid doesn't exist anymore. Can I do that or not? So now it's kind of like, huh, okay. But the interesting thing is it isn't like anything goes and everything's good, but it's kind of like
Starting point is 01:00:50 I can watch something and just take it in and be like, this doesn't have to change the way I feel I think about this, but it might, you know? And again, I don't believe the energy stuff. I mean, it could be true, but I don't know if there's a way to prove it. I haven't experienced it, but like being able to watch something like that
Starting point is 01:01:06 and be like, this is entertaining slash informative. Maybe it'll spark something for us. And I don't have to have this complex informed opinion about why it's worldly. That's one of the best things about my life at this point. That just makes, I just, it's a lot, there's a lot less emotional energy put in, like putting things in boxes.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And I think that, you know, since this is kind of like a sex addendum to sex timber, you know, weeks later, I do think there were ripple effects in me and Christy's relationship from sex timber. It's like really getting in that head space where you're like, you're thinking about it. Well, you and I are thinking about it and talking about it.
Starting point is 01:01:51 And then Christy and I, all the four of us did in that one episode. And then it, she's grateful. I think she's glad that she was on the show because it's part, it's one of the factors that led to us having intentional intimacy and giving attention to that, our sex lives and saying, okay, that will actually be part of the mission
Starting point is 01:02:18 for this trip for us. So I'm already looking back on sex timber and being very, very grateful for it. And I think there's, you know, Christie's reading a book called Come As You Are, which I would also recommend that book. And so it's, you know, the wave has crescendoed, but it's like, it's still moving us along
Starting point is 01:02:42 in terms of giving attention to it. And also being, realizing that now that we've talked about it, it's less and less weird every time we bring it up. Like she's the one that's like, and she put it in our text there. She's like, look at this goop series. I'm gonna watch this. You guys should watch this too.
Starting point is 01:03:02 You know, it's like, I don't, I think she could have done that before, but maybe she wouldn't have, maybe she wouldn't have identified that. It's like, so, I think we are realizing the benefits of having those conversations and kind of bringing it to the surface. Now, all that being said, if I had to predict
Starting point is 01:03:21 on the backside of our Big Sur trip, is it this now we're having so much more sex. It's like, no, I can already tell that it's like, man, that was great and that was very concentrated. And now we're kind of getting back to our normal lives and our normal rhythm and our normal frequency is the word I'm looking for, you know, of being intimate. But again, because we talk about it differently now,
Starting point is 01:03:51 we talk about it more often, we talk about it even more openly. And so I think it was a good thing. I'm glad we did it. I'm glad we're still doing it. Keep doing it. I do think that that is, you know, we talked about this during sex timber,
Starting point is 01:04:06 but I think it is worth repeating is just the idea that just like anything that communication and talking about something leads to enhancements and progression in that particular area of your relationship, and that might be your sexual relationship. Because I do think there is a, there's a tendency for, I mean, I'm not a very routine oriented person,
Starting point is 01:04:36 but that doesn't really matter because there is a tendency, you kind of get into things that are comfortable and I'm just talking about in relationships in general, right? If there's like, okay, well, this thing about you annoys me or I feel hurt in this way, but I just don't know how to talk about it. I don't know how to bring it up. And so years will pass.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And we don't really make, like we just accept that this is the status quo. And I don't know, my impression is that there are, there's many couples and relationships where there's issues like that that relate to their sexual lives where it's like, hey, hey, we looked up and 15 years had passed
Starting point is 01:05:29 and we haven't had a meaningful sexual connection. Not because we don't want to, but because there's something maybe it's, we're on a different page when it comes to the stuff, the way that it was broken down or whatever. And that's the thing that I loved about that series is that these were not people that were celebrating how great their sex lives are.
Starting point is 01:05:48 It's like, these are people with real challenges and deeply rooted in certain case studies, issues that go to the core of who they are as individuals and what they're bringing to the relationship. And they put all that out there. And I think it's, you know, I'm extremely grateful for the experiences that Chris and I have
Starting point is 01:06:11 and I know you are with you and Jesse, like things are going so well. And that was one of the concerns that I have with sex timber was like, I just feel like we celebrate how much we have to be thankful for and that we can build on knowing that there's so many people who, like as you're getting at right now, it's like they're in a different place
Starting point is 01:06:29 because of different reasons that aren't their fault necessarily or most likely. And it takes work and sometimes help to get through that. And so I applaud those people. And I think those are great examples to kind of round out something that we're not able to talk about when it's- Well, I mean, it's just the intention,
Starting point is 01:06:55 the decision to go on that show, which who knows what the casting process is or whatever. But you don't have to go on a Netflix show, but it might take, hey, like, let's actually go see a sex therapist as a couple. Like, oh, this is uncomfortable, but what about the next 10 years? It's just, it's anything.
Starting point is 01:07:18 When you need to talk to somebody about anything, that breaking through that initial conversation, it's just, again, it's just so much easier to not have it. It's just so much easier to just have the neck tomorrow be just like today. Yeah, back burner it or no burner it. But I mean, so when I was talking about like, enjoying being naked and like embracing that,
Starting point is 01:07:40 it was informed by messages in that show and just saying, you know what? So I got to a point with Christy and I was like, I think I wanna start an OnlyFans. Okay, all right. It's like, it can be both of us. You can be in charge of the camera. If you don't wanna do it, you can be in charge of the camera
Starting point is 01:07:58 and my face doesn't have to be on it. I don't know, I could do an anonymous thing. I think I could be an exhibitionist. Hmm, okay. I doubt this is gonna actually happen. So did she. But there are couples, you know, there's so much independent porn right now,
Starting point is 01:08:18 and there are couples that for whatever reason, because of whatever else they do or just their own prerogative, they don't show their faces. You know, you're gonna have, the tattoo could be a problem. I mean, you have your wife's name as I do, my wife's name on our asses. So you have to put something over that and then you've got the elvish tattoo
Starting point is 01:08:40 that you have to do something with that. A lot of band-aid. And you can't say anything. You know, you don't wanna make any noises. I use an accent. You can use a French accent, you're good at that. I mean, it's a natural extension of what we do, right? Emphasis on the extension.
Starting point is 01:08:58 No, I don't think I will ever do it. And I'm just, I was messing with her tongue in cheek, but I don't know. You got people, now you got people who are legitimately gonna think that you might start an OnlyFans, but that's a good place to have people. Don't go searching, I don't know how.
Starting point is 01:09:18 That's a good place to have people. I haven't perused OnlyFans, I don't know what the thumbnails show, but don't peruse it on my account trying to find me because you won't. And it'll be really easy because I'll be the guy wearing this sweatshirt and nothing else.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Oh gosh. Yeah. Focus on the ducks. Well, hopefully you learned a lot this week and last week as we ended up just doing sex timber all over again. Hashtag your biscuits, tell us what type of sexual type you are.
Starting point is 01:09:53 No don't, we don't wanna know. No no wait listen, save it because I mean I have every intention of doing sex timber again but I don't know how it's gonna change. We kind of already told the stories I think we might have to just bring in some experts. I don't know man, I don't know. It kind of already told the stories. I think we might have to just bring in some experts. I don't know, man, I don't know. It's too early to say, but I'd really like to do it again.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I'll have learned a lot from my OnlyFans experience to discuss. Yeah, right. Talk at you next week.

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