Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Link's Spring Break Trip & The Problem With Face Filters | Ear Biscuits Ep. 329
Episode Date: April 4, 2022This week, Link details his family spring break trip to Park City, Utah. He describes the trouble he got into with bringing his dog on the plane, living like a pampered viking for a day, and enjoying ...his time skiing without snowboarders hogging the slopes. Plus, Link and Rhett try to figure out the logic behind people using face filters and whether we should all stop the practice once and for all. Want to have your tweet/story/idea featured on Ear Biscuits? Follow @Mythical so you don't miss the next prompt! Check out the other Mythical Podcasts! Trevor Talks Too Much & Best Friends Back Alright!, available anywhere you get your podcasts! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast
where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time.
I'm Rhett.
And I'm Link.
This week at the round table of dim lighting,
I gotta talk to you about the trip
that I just got back from, man.
I've been spring breaking it.
And I, again, I've been,
we got nothing to talk about because you got back and I'm like,
well, I can't ask him about his trip.
Until now, now we have everything to talk about.
Well.
My trip to Park City, Utah.
Did you have as much fun
as you seem to be projecting right now?
I did some mining.
Crypto?
No, like you actually, I don't know.
That's the first thing I thought of when I thought of Utah
and I didn't want to make a Mormon joke. Was that like, I don't know. That's the first thing I thought of when I thought of Utah and I didn't wanna make a Mormon joke.
Was that like, I don't know,
some sort of precious gemstones, metals.
I think there's still a lot of that happening there.
I don't know if there, you know,
there's a resurgence of the gold rush there in Utah.
I'm totally making that up.
Is that where we mined turquoise?
That was Utah, that was Nevada.
That was Nevada, Tonopah, Nevada for commercial kings.
So yeah, I'm gonna give you an update
on my spring break experience to wet your appetite.
Wet, wet, wet your appetite for your own spring break.
I was also here.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
You have not gone on your spring break. What I'm saying, while you were on your spring break, I was also here. I know, cause that's what I'm saying. You have not gone on your spring break.
What I'm saying, while you were on your spring break,
I was just here by myself.
Yeah, I don't wanna hear about that.
Yeah.
Unless something catastrophic happened to the company,
which I assume you would have already told me.
And I was still following along on Slack.
Like I was lurking in the emails and the Slacks
just to make sure that like you were holding things down.
And it seems that you did.
Yeah, I mean, I had nothing happen
that is worthy of talking about on Ear Biscuit.
So the runway is clear.
Not that anything, nothing happened, right?
Stuff did happen, it's just not-
No, I didn't work at all.
Oh.
Hey.
I mean, I was just on Slack a little bit.
Fine by me, man.
You earned it.
You earned it, man.
Double up.
Double up on the spring break.
I did work, but nothing interesting happened.
Cause your spring break's coming up.
My spring break.
As of this recording.
My spring break might be a two episode.
Oh yeah?
I don't know.
I don't know what's gonna happen.
I love the fact that like,
we call our kids spring break our spring break because we do make it our spring break. I mean, we call our kids spring break, our spring break,
because we do make it our spring break.
I mean, we have this luxury of saying,
our schedule from a production standpoint
is pretty much set up over a year in advance.
And we've learned as soon as like the schools publish
what their, when the breaks are for the kids,
that we were able to block off some times.
Yeah, we don't function like a typical YouTuber.
And every time we interact with the typical YouTuber
about like being on the show or doing something together,
we, it is a reminder of-
We could have booked it-
What things are like without us-
Nine months ago.
Without a schedule.
It's like you're trying to book us.
Yeah, it's like trying to coordinate with other people is,
that's one of the reasons
that we stopped interviewing people on the show
was because, well, they pretty much didn't schedule stuff
more than like a couple of weeks in advance.
And then if you try to schedule it before that,
it's like, wow, I have no clue what I'm doing
two months from now.
I'm like, well, I know what I'm doing 12 months from now
with no exaggeration.
Like the things that matter most in terms of like
producing our ongoing content.
And then there's like spaces that are left open
for stuff that we can slide in.
But when it comes to like vacations and stuff like that,
and you got to coordinate with multiple children,
good gracious.
Right.
But it is kind of a luxury to be able to say,
hey, we're gonna kind of run this year's schedule
through one of the grids being our kids spring break
so that it can be our own spring break.
It's very nice.
It's a very nice thing.
Yeah.
So we went to Park City
because I let it be more of Lincoln's decision
because when Lily turned 16 years old,
we had this idea.
Okay, 16 is gonna be a special year.
We're gonna take a trip with just the 16 year old.
So wherever Lily wants to go, we decided to go to lunch.
She decided to go to London.
I'm sure there's an ear biscuit about that.
Of course, Lincoln turned 16 in the midst of the pandemic.
He also turned 17.
He got nothing.
So we're like, hey, you know,
it's like your 17 spring break, you get to decide.
And he just said he wanted to go skiing.
And I'm like, oh yeah, okay.
I like this little snow skiing.
You're developing a hobby.
What if he had said water skiing?
An expensive one.
We was like, how much are water skiing?
Like how would you have been like,
would you have redirected that?
We would, I think-
Cause your dad's a barefoot water skier.
I would have gone water skiing, yeah.
I just, there's a part of me that kind of wants
to go water skiing again.
Have you tried?
Never tried.
The fact, here's the thing.
Barefoot water skiing.
The fact that your dad has barefoot water skied
means that you probably have the correct type of feet.
My foot is nothing like my dad's,
but I think my foot's better. I have a flat foot. I think flat foot is nothing like my dad's, but I think my foot's better.
I have a flat foot.
I think flat foot is perfect for-
He's got a very archy foot.
He's got an archy- Yeah, really archy.
I never thought I could, you know, first of all,
I've never seen a six foot seven person barefoot ski, but-
With an arch like yours?
I think that you've got like water skiing feet.
I got ski feet, yeah.
We should do that.
We should bring back the vlogs
and link barefoot water skis. I feel like I, yeah. We should do that. We should bring back the vlogs and link barefoot water skis.
I feel like I could lose a toe or a nose.
It's a dangerous sport.
No, no, no.
It may, it'll daze you a little bit,
but you can't get that hurt.
Okay, so I can walk you through the experiences
that I had with my family and my dogs.
The dogs are actually a big part of this trip.
And so that was something that we had to navigate.
So I wanna unpack all that for you.
But something that's top of mind for me,
that's not, I don't think it's related to the trip.
Maybe it will come back to be related.
I wanted to talk first just to kind of give more
of my anxiety assessment journey update.
At the end of my spiritual deconstruction episode,
thanks for the feedback on that.
Thanks for the feedback on all of our episodes.
You used hashtag air biscuits, we look at all those.
I know a lot of you are talking about how you really enjoyed
getting to know Greg,
the roommate, little teaser there.
We're definitely pulling together
digitizing footage from the archives,
never before seen except when we showed it
for a captive audience in a room.
The first comedy videos that we ever made
that a lot of them did feature Greg.
I am so excited about this.
You don't understand.
Like I had an idea that you had these tapes,
but I just kind of forgotten like what's on these tapes.
All this just random footage of us in our dorm room,
in our apartment with Greg, with Tim,
all the early videos we made,
all the outtakes from the early videos we made.
Yes.
So.
And I've only started scratching the surface of-
And just so you know.
Digitizing this stuff.
The only place these are gonna be available
is the Mythical Society.
And if you're not a member of the Mythical Society now,
once these things start rolling out,
I just gotta say after having watched a few of them,
I'm like, this might be the most compelling thing
that we've ever made.
Because it's just interesting to find something
from like 22, 23 years ago,
that was the very genesis of us starting to try to be funny.
It's the actual start of what we do now
that no one has ever seen except for one time,
beyond a small group of friends.
So we're planning out how we wanna roll out these archives
and it needs to be on the Mythical Society
because that's what the Mythical Society is for,
that level of access.
There's also some rights and licensing issues
that like otherwise we just wouldn't be able to navigate.
So yeah, that's a little teaser
because that's also top of mind for us
because we're looking at it.
But back to the anxiety stuff.
Yeah, in the spiritual deconstruction episode at the end,
I talked about how at the top of the year
with Christie's encouragement based on conversations
that I was also kind of bouncing off you
and a few other friends,
deciding to not only get a new therapist,
but also try out anxiety medication.
So I'm on sertraline.
I've gone from 25 milligrams to 50 milligrams
and it's since January.
And going through this process,
I've seen it as more of a, you know,
going through this process, I've seen it as more of a, you know, my level of observation of my own anxiety
has really gone up, you know,
cause it feels kind of like an experiment,
like, okay, now I'm taking these pills that,
you know, I'm open to it.
I just, and you, and people close to me
have had really good experiences
and then it's had a positive impact on their life.
So I haven't had a stigma associated with it.
I just never made the connection that I personally needed it
but then I kind of got over that hump that,
yeah, I think I could benefit from this.
I just need to observe what impact it's having
just to see if this is a good choice for me.
And then also if it is, and I do believe that it is,
like I've experienced positive benefits,
what now is the right dose?
How do I dial that in?
Because even like yesterday and this morning,
especially this morning, like I realized,
I was like, man, I am so anxious.
And I do think I am more in tune with how I'm feeling.
Like my therapist is helping me like observe more
of the symptoms of anxiety in my body.
Like, oh, I feel a little nauseous.
I feel a little tight.
Yesterday, by the end of the day, I realized,
and when I got home, I was like, you know what?
Today was a tough day.
I was just really angry, you know?
And I was like, and the frustrating thing is that like,
I don't know why.
Like, I start searching for the thing that made me angry
and feel frustrated and it's like, I can't point for the thing that made me angry and feel frustrated.
And it's like, I can't point to one thing.
It's like, nobody did anything to me.
And then today it wasn't.
And so it was one of those things where it was like,
I'm kind of ready for this day to end.
I'm gonna go to bed at nine o'clock, you know?
Which is only 20 minutes earlier than when my-
Right, I was about to say,
that's not too much of a stretch.
Yeah, right. And then today- Did your music start playing? There was, yeah, it starts playing. It was only 20 minutes earlier than when my- Right, I was about to say that's not too much of a stretch.
And then today- Did your music start playing?
There was, yeah, it starts playing.
But then today it was like, I just woke up anxious,
just like very on edge, very nervous, not angry anymore,
not frustrated, but I was just trying to figure out
what it was,
but then also try to employ some techniques that I'm learning to deal with it,
whether I know the answer or not.
So like some breathing techniques of like slow breathing in,
like straw breathing, where you breathe in slowly,
but then you breathe out as if you're breathing
through a straw so that your out breath
is like longer than your in-breath.
It gives a signal to your body that you can calm down.
But yeah, it's, on one hand,
observing this is kind of a good data point
that like I'm on the right track,
that like all the things that I'm doing
are necessary for me.
You know, it's because this is a reminder,
oh, I've got this flare up of anxiety.
And then I start to like try to figure out what it is.
It's like, well, I don't know exactly what,
I don't feel like I have some amazing thing
that I wanna bring to this episode.
And you know, this is my episode, right?
I'm supposed to be, you expect me,
like you're not preparing anything.
I'm not prepared at all. This is my trip.
I'm supposed to be bringing something to this.
So that's the first thing I'll point to is like,
okay, I get in my own head about,
well, I don't feel prepared.
Like this is one thing that really sets off anxiety for me
is just not feeling like I've got this,
like you don't have this.
And that's kind of a theme I think for me
that I realized over many years, maybe over my entire life.
It's like, okay, yeah, this is a legitimate signal
and symptom of anxiety that like I just never labeled.
So there's that and then I'm like, you know,
when we leave here, we're gonna go and meet up
with Julian Smith, that's another teaser.
I'm full of teasers today.
We reconnected with our old friend Julian.
I don't know, I guess he's okay me teasing this,
but like we're shooting something with him.
It's his control whether it sees the light of day.
But I think I found myself being very keyed up about that.
And I don't know why, you know, it's like,
this should be something that's fun to reconnect.
But I feel like, I mean,
I feel like it's very natural.
Okay.
Like, I don't know, I mean,
I feel like the way that you're talking about it is
I'm anxious about these things,
and if I was normal, I wouldn't be anxious about it.
Like I don't have a diagnosable anxiety disorder,
but I get anxious about stuff all the time
that we're about to do in the same way.
And I'll be driving home and I'll be like,
what is it?
Why am I feeling this way?
And then I'll try to find it.
I try to get to the root of it.
Oh, we're doing that thing.
And yeah, I don't feel prepared for it.
And I bet you I'll feel better when it's over.
And then if I'm right, I will.
And then I actually start fantasizing about it being
something that should be fun being done and being over
and being like, and then I'm gonna get home and I'm gonna eat dinner
and I'm gonna watch TV and that won't be stressful.
Yeah.
So I mean, I guess, so I'm not just missing your anxiety.
I'm just saying that like- No, but this is exactly-
It doesn't make you weird.
I think it makes you normal.
Yeah, I think this is exactly what I'm trying to figure out
because I've been on, completely on that side of on that perspective on the outside of I I'll put it in the extreme and anxiety diagnosis and saying for myself, it's like, yeah, I get stressed out. stress is a natural response to having to step up.
And when pressure hits, stress is a good thing
because it gets you ready.
It's human.
Yeah.
It's not just a problem,
something that should be therapized or anesthetized,
or however you want to say it, away.
So I'm like, yeah, of course I get stressed out,
but then it's like, okay,
it gets to a level where you have heart palpitations.
Sometimes, you know, they'll come and go, but like, okay,
that may be, that may have an impact
on my health longterm, you know?
Yeah.
And, but yeah, that's how I've kind of,
I've put it in this box of like, well, what you just said.
And now I've kind of switched over to the other side.
It's like, what if, yeah, what is normal
and what is more of disordered level
of dealing with anxiety?
Well, I think my sort of slightly informed,
but mostly non-professional opinion or perspective
on the, like an anxiety disorder is
when you have an anxiety disorder,
a lot of times it will be, there's a baseline of anxiety
and then you'll kind of begin filling it with things
that you could be anxious about.
So it's almost like the anxiety starts
and then the events or the circumstances fill it
versus a more normal response to is an event makes you,
you become anxious about something.
Now, obviously if you become anxious about it
to a extreme degree that affects your functioning
and your health, and that's extreme,
but it's almost like people who deal with depression,
they wake up in the morning and they feel depressed,
not because they had a bad day
or not because they're anticipating having a bad day,
but there's something in the chemical makeup of their brain
that just be giving them the blues,
giving them a feeling of depression.
And then you start trying to connect it to like,
is it this or is it that?
Oh no, it might just be a brain thing
and there could be treatment for that.
So I guess my question is-
What you're describing is a bucket of that I need to,
that I could fill with something
to always have an object of my anxiety.
Because you feel like your baseline anxiety has changed
after being on this medication for three months.
Because at this point it should have kicked in, right?
Yeah, it has.
But I think what's happened is, you know,
I could add other things to the list.
It's like, okay, Christy gave me a report
about a conversation she had with my mom about,
you know, Louis having another stroke.
And then, you know, I got a friend
that I wanna have a conversation with
that the friend is going through something that like I haven't been able to have a conversation with that, the friend is going through something that like,
I haven't been able to have that conversation.
So there's like,
there's some energy going out in that direction.
And so there's this cumulative effect of,
okay, that then I wake up and I just feel like in a knot,
you know?
And so it's, and honestly, I kind of thought
because I've been experiencing some,
the benefits of the medication and the therapy,
everything that, you know, it's a bit discouraging
to find that like, okay, now that these things have piled on,
it kind of feels like I'm back where I was,
at least yesterday and today, you know?
So it's, then you start to think about, well,
does that mean, should I consider upping the medication?
I'm still in that zone where I'm trying to dial that in.
I think what I'm concluding even in this conversation
is that like, okay, let me see if this wave passes,
if the baseline is still,
and I'll also talk to my doctor and my therapist.
Yeah, right, your doctor can help you.
In terms of hashtag Ear Biscuits,
you don't have to give me advice on that front.
Oh, don't worry, they will.
But yeah, I'll also,
I have a follow-up schedule with my doctor
and I'm talking to my therapist tonight.
But I'm just kind of sharing just the,
what's at work in assessing my anxiety
and kind of getting comfortable with the fact
that like I am treating it and I am talking about it.
And I'm not talking about getting comfortable with the fact that like, I am treating it and I am talking about it. And I'm not talking about getting comfortable
with talking about it publicly,
just wrapping my mind around in all conversations that like,
hey, this is a part of what I'm dealing with
and I'm coming to grips with it
and I'm still developing a game plan and I'm coming to grips with it and I'm still developing a game plan
and I'm just observing.
And I find that I'm observing things more closely
than I never did.
So it's like the more things that come up,
it's like, oh yeah, that's been something
that's been true of me for my entire life.
Now I'm seeing it through a different lens of treatment
and it is very helpful.
So I do feel very positive about it overall.
It's just the past few days have been more of a dip.
And we are getting back into a more stressful schedule.
I was thinking about this the other night. into a more stressful schedule.
I was thinking about this the other night. There was like two weeks in a row
where almost every night I had some commitment.
Yeah. Now some of it was like fun stuff,
like, oh, we're going to a concert
or we've got our date night scheduled.
But other nights there were like some social engagement
or, and I was just like, man, this is-
The world opening back up is absolutely a factor.
So there's that, so there's less of this little respite
in the evening.
It's like getting home at 10 30, 11, 11 30.
It's a lifestyle shift.
Yeah.
And realizing that this is what my life used to be like.
And the other thing is,
we've always had a lot going on,
but there's a lot of things getting to a stage
where they're taking more time.
Or just feeling like what,
with all these irons in the fire,
which one's gonna catch the oven mitt when I'm not looking?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I've definitely been feeling that.
I mean, that's what I talked to my therapist about last week
is just like, oh, I'm beginning to feel like
the pressure is increasing.
And it's been,
Yeah.
You know, as difficult as the pandemic was
in many, many other ways,
the one positive thing about it was,
there's a little, it seemed like there was a little less
pressure in some ways.
There was less demands on our time
and that's kind of reversing.
So I mean, I'm not surprised that you're feeling,
you know, that you're feeling a little bit of a,
that the anxiety is like-
Getting a little prickly.
You know what I think I need?
Peeking a little bit.
I think I need a vacation.
I think I need a spring break.
Yeah, that is interesting
that you just got back from the vacation.
I do think that's also a factor is like yesterday
was my first day back.
So that's never a thing.
Vacations tend to make us anxious because you're like,
well, what did I fall behind on?
Definitely felt some of that.
So yeah, I think, you know,
I'm gonna be in observation mode
at least for another week coming out of this.
But before I'm like making any decisions
about changing my approach,
cause I do feel very good and still mostly excited about
and confirmed about being on the right tracks
for what I'm doing here.
But yeah, I wouldn't, I'd love to go back to park city.
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of course we've been to Park City a number of times.
Park City is known for being the venue
for the Sundance Film Festival
towards the top of every year.
And so we found ourselves at the Sundance Film Festival
in tertiary capacities.
We were there with,
we were making videos- Cadillac. With Cadillac.
We were like interviewing celebrities.
About Cadillacs.
You can go back on the Rhett and Link channel,
check that out.
We were guests of YouTube a couple of times,
like they had like a-
A lounge. A lounge.
So we did some Q and A's and stuff like that
and saw a few documentaries when we were there.
And then we would like maybe ski for a few hours.
And then sometimes we would see our friend, Eric,
who our high school friend who was one of the guitarists
and the Wax Paper Dogs.
So Eric's lived there for like 20 years now.
He's like worked in and around the mountain resorts,
doing like high up technology stuff.
He started as a snowmaker.
So yeah, I got to reconnect with Eric,
got to hang out with him.
So I'm like, he was, you know,
he definitely wanted to like say,
oh, you should do this, you should go here.
He was like a Sherpa.
Oh, he was like ski patrol at some point, I think, right?
In the early days.
He just told me he was a snowmaker
and then he went into like the IT department.
But he knows all the, he knows the mountains.
The thing that I remember,
and I didn't bring it up this time
because I just didn't want to rehash the story
with him again, but I'll do it here.
When we went to Sundance that one time and we went,
we had some drinks and I'm gonna say a combination
of the altitude and not being acclimated to that
and having a few too many drinks
for that particular environment.
I don't remember this.
I woke up the next morning, we're like,
before we leave town, we got, Eric, we gotta meet you.
We're gonna meet you for breakfast.
And he like, well, so we met up at this breakfast place
and I have not been hung over often in my life.
Okay, there was the one time in high school
that I told the story.
And then there was, I mean, there's sometimes
you're like wake up with a headache, but like,
I've never woken up and before my eyes are open,
I could tell that the room is spinning.
Oh.
Except like a couple of times.
Like I, once you experience that once,
it takes me like 10, 15 years before I forget apparently
that I never want to feel that again.
And I think the timing worked out just right.
That like, oh my gosh, I woke up, the room was spinning.
Then I opened my eyes.
I was like, yep.
I don't, am I going to be able to get out of bed?
It was bad.
And I-
I don't remember this.
Yes you do, because I was wearing sunglasses
and we were like, I was like, dude, I don't feel good.
And we got like an Uber to the breakfast place to meet Eric.
And I didn't tell Eric that I felt bad.
I just wore my sunglasses all the time.
It was very bright.
And we were like wearing these heavy coats
cause it was like snowy outside.
And then we go inside and it's like baking hot.
And the sun is baking through the window
and shining right in my eyes.
Which at least gave me a reason to wear the sunglasses.
And- You're also a Sundance.
And I was sweating, like doing that like hangover sweat.
And like, we're talking to Eric and we're like catching up
and like, I was trying to like convey that I was so happy
to see him because it had been a while.
And then I just let the two of you do most of the talking
while I just sat there and like, I was looking at the menu
and I remember that the menu made me nauseous.
And then Eric ordered one of those egg Benedict things
where it's like you poke the egg and it oozes out like,
Yeah, like a properly made eggs Benedict.
Like something that like an EMT should be like
working on in the back of an ambulance.
Oh my gosh, it's like, or like an eye surgeon or something.
Yeah, you've just described the properly made eggs Benedict.
And I remember looking at that and I was like,
I need to go to the restroom.
And I went to the bathroom.
You remember this?
I'm kind of, it's beginning to piece together.
And I was about to vomit at the table
and then I'm like shimmying to the bathroom
and I got to the bathroom and I started,
when I saw the toilet, I just started vomiting, you know?
Oh my God.
Before I got to the toilet.
Why didn't you feel like you could tell him
that you were hungover?
I don't know.
Because I was embarrassed.
It's so dumb.
Like, I think it was in that weird zone where it was like,
it might've been a little holier than thou thing.
I don't think so though.
There's no way that could have been it.
Was that the Cadillac year?
Yes, I think it-
That might've been it.
Might've been if it was back then.
That might've been it.
Like the first time we went to Sundance.
Yeah, because that was like-
2008, 2009. Pre-deconstruction.
Pre-deconstruction and we were like trying to be these,
like we wanted to keep up appearances.
You can't let them know you're hung over
because God will be upset with you.
I just think I was embarrassed.
I don't know how spiritual it was,
but like I had a lot of cleaning up to do in the bathroom.
Oh my God. Because,
you know, I'm like taking all the paper towels
and like trying to mop up the-
So you missed the toilet?
Yeah, man.
I missed the floor.
I like hit the wall a little bit.
Went out the window?
Hit the wall.
It's like, you ever been in the bathroom
and you're like, who exploded?
How do you explode everywhere?
Well, I understand.
And I still don't know the answer to that for poop
because I've seen that.
I understand the vomit,
but I don't understand the diarrhea explosion
in a bathroom, man.
Like at like, at like nipple level.
I'm so curious, I would be willing to be there
to see it happen.
Like it's the nastiest thing, but I'm just so curious.
I'm like, what position were they in?
So every time I get together, I mean,
like I mopped everything up
because I was not gonna leave that for the employees,
but it took me a long time to come back out.
When I came back out, I think it was like,
guys, I'm just, I've had a rough time in the restroom
and I'm still having a rough time out here.
I'm glad you're finished with your bursted eyeball egg.
Your poached eggs.
So that's what I think about every time I go back
to Park City and especially when we see Eric, but-
You have like a Pavlovian vomit response to Eric?
No, no, no, it's not that bad.
Good, good, good.
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The main thing, I booked at Airbnb
and I was like, every time since,
I think since we first got Jade, I was like,
we're gonna take this dog, we're gonna fly with this dog.
I've seen people do it.
We're gonna take Jade home with us.
I love Jade.
She's a member of the family.
I want her to be with me.
But we never did it.
Like it's, you know, you gets down to it
and you're always like, it's not worth it.
It's probably tough on Jade.
It's like, she likes the kennel we take her to.
It's called a freaking pet resort.
Yeah. You know?
They sleep on beds.
It's like, they got like webcams.
You can see them at all times.
Yeah, it's pretty nice.
It's great. Barbara loves it.
It's redonkulous.
And Barbara's there, usually at the same time.
So we always talked ourselves out of it,
but I was like, Christy,
now that you're so attached to Jasper,
or at least that's what I was thinking,
now that she's so attached to Jasper, I'm like,
this is, we're gonna do it this time.
Like we've taken road trips.
Like when we went to Sedona,
we took the cats, the dog and the cat,
right when we got the cat, which was crazy.
So it's not that we haven't gone on trips with the dogs,
like if we do on like a beach trip or something,
but they've never flown with us.
So I'm like, Park City, this is a very short flight,
it's like around an hour.
It's like, this is a good test.
And plus me, Lincoln and Lando are gonna be skiing.
Christy, you're gonna be back at the Airbnb,
just chilling out, doing what you wanna do.
This is what she was looking forward to that.
But I was like, don't you want,
don't you want your little furries with you?
Your animals, don't you want your doggies?
I was like, let's do this.
So she said yes.
And it was really because she's so attached to Jasper.
Like, oh my gosh.
It's like a little baby to her.
He does better at the kennel now though, right?
I mean, like,
Yeah, yeah.
Cause I picked him and Jade up.
Right, and posted it on your Instagram.
I mean, and he did like have like a-
He's very clingy, but he's gotten better.
Like he had separation anxiety.
He didn't seem super traumatized when I picked him up.
Yeah, he's lived with us for a year now.
And he's, so he's doing so much better on that front.
So that really wasn't a factor.
So, I mean, with Delta at least,
you gotta go to a special counter when you get there.
And we had the little carriers that are Delta approved.
It's like, okay, if I buy this one,
I know it will fit under the seat in front of me.
And, because the last thing I wanted to be turned away
because my carrier was too big.
So we got all that squared away.
We even, the weeks leading up to it, I was like,
all right, Christy, we're gonna put the dogs in the kennel
and we're gonna walk them around.
I think I'm gonna take them downtown,
take them into town, not downtown LA,
but like take them into town,
like around the shops area
and just like carry them in the carrier.
Both of them?
Both of them.
Just to like get them acclimated to being them in the carrier. Both of them? Both of them. Just to like get them acclimated
to being carried in a carrier.
Right.
And because she laughed in my face,
just like you did just now, I didn't do that.
But I didn't think it was that weird
to carry two dogs in a carrier.
I think you gotta get them used to it.
In like a bustling little shopping area.
Yeah, I was just like a man carrying two dogs.
I mean, that guy's going somewhere.
Typically you would walk your dog in a shopping area,
not carry them in a carrier.
Head in or head out?
I didn't do it, but around the house I would do it
and I'd put their head in, yeah.
And then we got there and you gotta go to a special counter
cause you gotta pay a fee for this.
It's like $150 per dog one way.
It's another passenger, man.
It's actually a good deal.
It's not another seat.
Yeah, but it's, I mean, people's dogs create issues
for other people.
You can't, you have to discourage it a little. You have to discourage it a little bit.
You gotta discourage it a little bit.
You gotta put in a speed bump.
People are willing to pay like for a $600 round trip.
Every once in a while that dog's gonna take a crap
inside the kennel, people are gonna smell it,
and you gotta discourage it.
You gotta discourage it, you're right.
So we get there to the curbside and I asked the guy,
I was like, we have dogs, we've never traveled with dogs.
I think we have to go to special counties.
He's like, follow me.
So he takes us around this decent sized line.
And then he like, he skips the line,
goes and talks to one of the agents,
whispers and then points at us and like stands us
kind of to the side in front of the line.
This is checking in?
Checking in.
And then the guy leaves and I'm like,
I gave him a tip because the dude just like escorted us
to skip the entire line.
I was a little self-conscious about that.
I'm really nervous about having these dogs.
And then Jasper from within the crate thingy,
the carrier sees another dog
and we're standing in front of everybody.
That's trouble.
And he barks twice, two barks.
Really?
Two barks.
Just two?
Just two.
And then all of a sudden I see from a long ways down,
there's like one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven agents behind.
And then way down there,
this woman just starts huffing and puffing
down behind everybody.
Maybe she's a manager of some sort,
comes all the way around and goes up to Christy
because Christy was holding Jasper's carrier.
Says, ma'am, if you don't get your dog to start barking,
you're gonna have to take him out of here.
I'm like, what?
I'm like, he barked twice, just two barks.
And I'm like, what?
This is an employee?
An employee, I'm like, man, this is intense.
I'm about to shell out the dough, come on.
And you were thinking, well Jasper, he could bark twice.
You'll get a lot worse than this.
And this was the main thing I was worried about.
So then I'm like, crap.
I was like, okay, we'll do what we can thinking,
I don't know what we're gonna do.
But then I took off my jacket
and I just draped it over the whole thing
where he couldn't see anything.
Alligator mode.
Yeah.
And I thought he was,
I thought that would just make him freak out more,
but it actually didn't, it worked.
I don't know, I would not have predicted it would work
or I would have done that to start with.
But yeah, that definitely worked.
And then we take them through security.
I'm having to Google like all this stuff.
Like you put the dog through the thing?
If you do, does it fry them?
You don't want to put them in.
What does it smell like?
Would you cook a dog in it?
Well, it wouldn't cook them,
but the effects would show up later.
Delayed, delayed.
It's an x-ray. Yeah.
I mean, dogs get x-rayed all the time.
Not at that level. Yeah.
I took the dog out of the carrier,
held Jade in my arms and Jasper in Chrissy's arms,
and we walk them through
and then put them back in the carrier.
By that point-
Did they do a cavity search of either of the dogs?
No.
Good.
Not of me either.
Okay. It's a little disappointing.
I'm still waiting for that.
Well, you gotta store something up your butt hole.
They ended up doing really well on the flight.
The vet had given Christy a sedative for the dogs,
which-
I thought she,
the vet had given Christy a sedative,
so she was okay.
Okay.
Christy has her own version of a sedative
because she has a pronounced fear of flying.
Did the dogs help create a distraction for her
that made her less focused on her own?
Not on the first flight
because we were so keyed up about what's,
everything was new and we were worried
about all of the logistics that I'm telling you about.
So it was like, we were pretty on edge for that reason.
But we get them on the plane,
we put them underneath the seat in front
and then they did great.
By the time we got off the plane,
we were like unzipping the top
and walking down to baggage claim,
like their heads are sticking out.
And it's like, all of a sudden this is feeling,
we're feeling like those people.
So they didn't bark at all on the plane?
They did not bark at all on the plane.
After we took off, I asked the woman next to me,
well, I'll tell that story in a second.
After we took off, they eventually got up
and got in our laps.
I mean, they're little cat dogs.
They just want to be in our laps.
And once they're in our laps, they're like, they just sleep.
Jasper looked out the window a little bit,
but like not a peep out of them.
They were like docile.
The sedative had an effect on Jasper.
He was really sleepy,
but it really didn't have an effect on Jade.
She didn't sleep any.
And I was also concerned about them using the bathroom,
but like we made sure they went
right before we left the house.
And then they didn't,
there's like pet pee and poop areas
designated in airport terminals.
Oh, but not on the plane.
No, not on the plane, in the terminals,
but we didn't wanna take them in there and they were fine.
They didn't have to use the bathroom
until we got to where we were going.
But what about-
Short flight though.
A cross country flight,
because I'm thinking about doing this with Barbara
in the summer. You have to look into it.
I think cross country flight you can do it,
I've seen dogs.
But if you're flying to Hawaii,
I think I read that you have to put the dogs,
you have to check the dogs,
which is not something I would wanna do.
They have to go in the luggage thing?
I don't know exactly where they go.
They can't go in the luggage thing.
It gets too cold.
It's not pressure regulated.
I don't know exactly where they go.
I just, I don't wanna find out.
I don't wanna put my dogs in there.
I just wouldn't take them.
There's the emotional support route,
which I'll get to that in a second.
But I mean, pulling out the,
knowing that we wanted to pull out the dogs
on the return flight, I turned to the woman next to me
when we first sat down, because I was like,
how are you with dogs?
Because you don't want to freak somebody out.
Which is what I think that the manager who is freaking out
was like, you got to do something about your dog barking. Because some people freak out, some people what I think that the manager who is freaking out was like, you gotta do something about your dog barking
because some people freak out,
some people are afraid of dogs.
Right.
And it's like, well, you gotta,
the people take precedent over the dogs.
If you can't control your dog, then hey,
You could lose customers.
You could lose customers.
So I was trying to be sensitive to this passenger
who was sitting next to me on the flight. She was like, oh, I love dogs. trying to be sensitive to this passenger
who was sitting next to me on the flight. She was like, oh, I love dogs.
So then we pulled out our dogs a little bit later
and she was happy.
And then she pulls out her phone
and she shows us a picture of her dog,
but it's a selfie of her with her dog.
I'm like, oh, you got a cute dog.
You are a dog person.
When I looked at the picture,
it was a bit strange because the woman,
the picture she showed me,
she had applied that face filter to her face
and I just don't get it.
Like a face tune?
Yeah, like a face tune where it's like,
it makes your face like, it looks like really smooth.
Like you have on makeup.
Right.
I mean, she had on some makeup in real life
and like I'm sitting right next to her,
but it's like, that is not, I can tell it's you,
but it's not you.
It's like the emoji version of you.
It's like, this is obviously a fake you.
You've put a filter on yourself.
It just, you see, I don't know.
The whole thing is just strange to me.
Yeah, a lot of people do it.
You know, and of course I see all the people on TikTok
that are like, this is not my face.
This is not my face.
Yeah, but they're at least drawing attention to it.
Yeah, at least they're drawing attention to it.
But it gets stranger
when a stranger is showing you this picture.
Usually you see this person like on Facebook. Right, and there's a- On a plane showing you this picture. Usually you see this person like on Facebook.
Right.
On a plane showing you the picture.
And the phone's not right next to their face.
Right, that's the issue.
What made it even weirder was again,
the whole point is that the dog's in the selfie too.
And the face filter was applied to the dog too.
Did you know that could happen?
The dog's face was like altered.
Super smooth.
Altered.
Like a puppy?
No, the only thing I could really tell was that
the left eye of the dog, it was like a Chihuahua.
The left eye of this Chihuahua was like darkened and bigger.
It was like the shadow on the left side of the dog's face
was interpreted by the filter as part of the dog's eye.
So the left eye of the dog was like twice as wide
as the right eye of the dog.
And this woman thought that was cute?
I think, I don't know why she showed me that.
Are you sure it just wasn't a big eyed Chihuahua?
Well, I didn't want to ask at that point
because then I'd be like,
and is that what your face normally looks like?
Because I think that's a special breed.
I think I saw that one.
Big left eyed Chihuahua?
Yeah, yeah, that's specific, yeah.
It's a little asymmetrical.
The face smoothing didn't know what to do
with that dog's eye.
You think she hasn't looked at the dog?
She's showing you a picture of her dog.
Yeah.
I just think that people are kind of blind
to like how strange the filter,
like it's like you can't see how obvious it is.
But if you're looking at your,
I'm gonna find a picture of my dog
to show to strangers when they ask.
Oh, that's a cute one.
Don't you, you're looking at the dog.
This is weird.
It's so weird.
But to me, I think maybe you were actually the victim of an internet prank video and you didn't respond. dog, this is weird. It's so weird. But to me-
I think maybe you were actually the victim
of an internet prank video and you didn't respond.
No, no, no, she was being sincere.
To me, it just highlights the problem,
like just how these face filters have just fooled people.
Well, they haven't fooled many people.
No, but the people who use them
think they're fooling people.
And I'm not talking about the ones that are like,
this is not my face.
Some of them are real crazy.
There's amazing how much, with nothing to compare it to,
you're like, oh, that person's gone through
like a makeup makeover.
It's like very extreme and model-ish, but it is realistic.
Like the technology is getting amazing.
But the one that people normally use,
like for the past year or two on,
I guess Facebook or whatever, Instagram,
it's very obvious that you're applying this filter
to everybody except the person who's applying the filter.
I think you lose perspective on it.
You lose perspective on it.
And it's a problem.
I mean-
What are you gonna do about it?
I think it's gonna become my thing.
Like a crusade against face filters.
I mean, obviously it's like,
it just seems dysfunctional, right?
Yeah, well, you know, it is a.
And if you're fooled to the point
where you're putting a dog in it.
I wonder if the idea is, okay,
so obviously we all do some sort of altering of our face
or whatever, like when we shoot things on video,
just so we're not a couple of shiny boys,
we put some makeup on.
I'll put in some eye drops
because I have perpetually bloodshot eyes
and everyone's like, he's always high. And I'm like, no, I just have bloodshot eyes and I have to put in some eye drops because I have perpetually bloodshot eyes and everyone's like, he's always high.
And I'm like, no, I just have bloodshot eyes
and I have to put in.
So I do some artificial things to my face
to make myself more presentable, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Are you saying you're on a slippery slope to face filter?
No, I'm saying in culturally.
Yeah.
And traditionally women are more apt
to do more things to their face with makeup than men are.
That's changing a little bit,
but like that is sort of, you know, the norm in the past.
And then it's, and you know when somebody's got makeup on,
like, so if somebody shows up and they've got makeup on
that like it's decorative in some way, it's like,
oh, there's a different color over this person's eyes.
We've kind of accepted that.
Maybe the people who are doing face filters are like,
I'm not trying to fool you.
I know that it's obvious that I have a face filter,
but this is the face that I want to show you.
This is the face of my little dog that I wanna show you.
I want the big eye thing,
because I think that's cute.
It's a leap from wearing makeup to face filter.
I agree.
I actually don't believe that's what's happening.
I think what's happening is people lose perspective.
I think what you're doing here,
and I really appreciate it,
because we don't have a strong point of view,
I'm just trying to figure it out,
is that we know we're gonna get some sort of comment
that presents a different perspective
that might have to lead to an apology.
That's the world we live in on our podcast
and on the internet, right?
I don't wanna offend anybody who uses a face filter,
but at the same time, and so when I say something like,
is this a sign of dysfunction?
It's like, okay, is that a line
that I can't cross conversationally
because someone's gonna come out of the woodwork and say,
well, have you thought about it this way?
And it's like, okay, yeah.
Obviously people have a right to put on a face filter.
I just don't understand it.
And I'm not saying it's dysfunction.
I'm asking a question.
Now I'm being so defensive.
Well, I mean, when I see it, so-
I don't get it though.
And you know, it happens. It's like it, so- I don't get it though. And it happens.
It's like, and again, I don't go on Facebook
and my wife doesn't go on Facebook because in many ways-
Well, there's Instagram too though.
Yeah, I know, but I feel like Facebook is the place
where you just, I feel like it's more prominent there
because Facebook and the people who use Facebook,
maybe instead of Instagram, right?
Which is a certain genre or certain sort of generation even.
I think that-
I think people on Facebook are more likely
to not realize that it's obvious they're using a Facebook.
People who use Facebook as their primary social media
are less technically savvy than people who don't.
That's a generalization that I'm willing to make, right?
You made it.
And I think that it's like when your mom goes on Facebook
and sends a message to you like, call me immediately,
but she makes it her like status update.
You know, like that kind of stuff happens all the time.
Hey, you too.
Brian, call me immediately.
And this is like, her like best friend has liked it.
Yes, Brian, do that.
That mom is, or dad, I'm not trying to say it's women,
I'm saying moms and dads,
and parents of all kinds,
are probably more likely to use a face filter
in a way that they did not,
they lost perspective at some place along the way.
And so when I see it, I don't necessarily-
It's different than getting plastic surgery.
You talk about makeup, but then you've got, okay,
if you got lip plumpification or I don't know,
you've got the cheek implants, whatever you got.
I don't know.
I don't care.
It's fine.
I do feel like this is different because it's like...
I don't know.
It's a different thing.
Like if I couldn't grow a beard,
I would consider getting a chin implant.
But you wouldn't consider applying a beard filter
to all of your pictures. No, but I grow a beard as with you. applying a beard filter to all of your pictures.
No, but I grow a beard as a filter.
What?
My beard is a filter.
I mean, it's natural, it grows naturally,
so I guess cutting it would be going against nature,
but I'm just saying that like-
But you wouldn't walk around,
well, I mean, like a beard toupee,
does that exist, by the way?
I'm sure.
Like, yeah.
If it can be conceptualized, it can be invented and asked. Yeah, I mean, sure, people have beard toupee, does that exist by the way? I'm sure. Like, yeah. If it can be conceptualized,
it can be invented and asked.
Yeah, I mean, sure.
People have beard toupees, beard pays.
I'm saying I agree with you.
When I see somebody who's done a face filter,
I think this person has identity issues.
That's what I think, that's my knee-jerk reaction.
But then when I've turned that lens back on myself,
I'm like, well, you got identity issues as well.
Sure.
But you're just being a little bit more savvy
in the way that you're addressing them.
I mean, you might have more self-consciousness
than someone who's willing to use a face filter.
It's like, hey, I wanna share this picture,
but I don't wanna put on makeup to take a picture.
I'm just gonna put this face filter on
and then I'm gonna post that picture.
It's like, so what?
Who cares?
To me, it comes down to,
do you know that people know it's a face filter? It's like, do what, who cares? I know it's, to me, it comes down to, do you know that people know it's a face filter?
It's like, do you know that people know,
are you okay with people knowing that this is a face filter?
Are you okay with people knowing you were wearing makeup?
Are you okay with people knowing-
I think most people who use it don't know
that it's being perceived. That you have plastic surgery.
I think it's, maybe that's what I'm addressing.
Well, I saw one where it was the whole,
they had done the whole family
because the thing that happens sometimes is like-
Was there a dog in the photo?
Cause it'll get wonky.
The thing that you see sometimes is one person
who is the person whose account it is,
they've done the Facetune filter to just themselves.
So let's just say it's a person in the family
and the spouse and the kids don't have it done.
Then it's especially evident.
Oh, you can do that?
You can just circle one face?
Oh yeah, you can select one face.
But then one time I saw a family where I guess
in an effort to disguise,
they had done everyone, including the children.
I was like, this is a family of angels.
This is great.
Yeah, it's just, I mean, and then, you know,
I mean, if that's a teenager, boo, boy, you're real.
Take that down!
Talk about cringe.
Brian, take it down! Call me immediately, Brian!
I can't take this photo down, I don't know how to do it.
Oh man, this should have been the whole episode
because I feel like we're really getting
into something important.
Yeah, you haven't even talked about your damn trip yet.
I'm talking about the most important part,
flying there with my dogs.
What about skiing, man?
Face filtering the dogs.
All right, I guess we can come back.
Let us know what you think about face filters.
That's what we do need to hashtag Ear Biscuits about, okay?
And we can do a follow up on this.
We can do an entire expose.
Or maybe we'll just start applying
the face filter to our face.
I finally got to Park City.
The dogs were there.
Let me finish the dog part.
I think that it was-
All right, let's go finish.
That's really what I wanted to talk about
the most anyway, apparently.
We were very glad that we brought the dogs.
We had this like collapsible kennel
that would keep both the dogs
that like I could carry in my suitcase.
So when we left the house,
they didn't just like potentially pee or poop anywhere.
We also had to pay a fee at the Airbnb for the dog,
but still it was not as much as the keeping them
in the kennel, in the pet resort.
I'm really self-conscious about saying
that I take my dogs to a pet resort,
but I'm also very proud of it.
So that was a good choice.
On the way back, we were much more at ease
knowing the effect that the sedative would have on Jasper
and like covering the crate.
Like we started to get things down
that to the point where Christy was talking about,
we're walking in the airport on the way back,
the dog's heads are sticking out
and people are like pointing and whispering to other people
about the cuteness of our dogs.
And Christy and I are looking at each other
and like just talking about how we're those people
that we've always been jealous of at the airport.
Really?
Yes, because they have their dogs
and we don't have our dogs.
And here we are, we have our dogs.
Read it in a week, baby.
So is it about the dogs or about you?
Oh, it's definitely about the dogs are for me.
And again, that gets to the emotional support
of the dog clicking into place.
It's like, Christy experienced it firsthand
with like her fear of flying.
I was like, is having Jasper helping?
You know, petting a dog releases endorphins.
And then having somebody that you're caring for. What, petting a dog releases endorphins. Yeah.
And then having somebody that you're caring for.
What about petting a dolphin?
Hmm.
Yeah, emotional support dolphin.
No, it releases endorphins.
That's not how baby dolphins are made.
Sorry. Releasing endorphins.
I mean, that might work on a t-shirt,
but you're in dad job territory here.
Should I tweet that?
No.
Emotional support, no.
Because you don't want to tweet
about emotional support stuff.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would find a different way.
We've dug too much of a hole of talking about like,
women wear makeup today.
Right.
And men.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And all people.
Yeah, yeah. Damn. Whatever. today. Right. And men. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And all people. Yeah, yeah.
Damn.
Whatever, shit.
Okay.
So yeah, I'm like, I think we've backed into
a legitimate case for Jasper becoming
an emotional support dog.
And then I don't think I have to pay $150 each way.
And I don't think I have to put them in a kennel.
But I mean, she's got a fear of life.
But you have to give them a little jacket, vest.
And that's great, right?
Yeah.
But I didn't wanna be that person.
You can get an emotional support certification,
probably for squirrelly reasons, I've been told,
but I didn't wanna do that.
Yeah.
That's why I didn't do it.
No one's gonna like say no along the way.
I did not wanna abuse that system. And now's why I didn't do it. No one's gonna like say no along the way. I did not wanna abuse that system.
And now I find that like-
But it might be legitimate.
Christy might be a legitimate candidate.
And then it's like, we might need to grandfather
me and Jade in.
Question. It definitely helped her.
And it helped me too.
Like I would take Jade everywhere if I could.
She should be here right now.
But the circumstances of this trip
lent themselves to them not being an inconvenience.
But let's just say you decided,
hey, family trip to France.
I don't, yeah.
Especially when you don't have a home base,
that someone is there most of the time.
Like everything kind of lined up.
So it's still trip to trip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there most of the time, like everything kind of lined up. So it's still a trip to trip.
But I was making the argument when we go back home
and we stay in an Airbnb, we can take the dogs
to visit our family and I think they'll be fine.
So I'm lobbying for that to be the next thing.
Yeah, yeah.
For Christmas, we're bringing the dogs home.
Our plan is to take Barbara,
because we're going to North Carolina in the summer,
and we'll be staying at the place that we bought there.
Yeah.
For maybe longer than a week.
It might be two, but the plan is to take Barbara
for that trip.
I think Barbara will do fine on the plane.
The only thing that's gonna be a problem is
she likes people and food so much that she may start whining.
The vet can give her the sedative
and they said that we could give Jasper another one
if he needed it.
But other than that, if I did not have a home base.
No.
It's just such an inconvenience.
And Barbara loves going to the pet resort
is what she tells me every time she gets back.
I'm sure she does.
She's like, I really bonded with those bitches this time.
Yeah, a few of them use the face filter.
Yeah, right.
I don't know about those.
They're a little pretentious.
I don't know about those ones with identity issues, but.
Okay, the Park City skiing and of it all,
you know, I didn't have,
there's not any like huge thing I wanted to tell you about.
How hard did you go?
And you skied instead of snowboarded?
I skied.
We went, Park City and Canyon Resorts are now combined
to be like a super large-
I think it's the largest ski resort in the lower 48.
We also went to a third resort called Deer Valley,
which was just like another seven minutes beyond.
We had never skied Deer Valley, I don't think.
No snowboarders are allowed there.
The thing about Deer Valley and Park City,
canyons not so much,
was that if you wanna ride greens,
I guess I'm not snowboarding, so I won't say ride,
ski greens, which Lincoln and I could do some blues,
but we're still getting our bearing with skiing
and Lando is not ready for blues.
Now, after being there for three days or before?
Even now, you know, it's,
talk about anxiety, like the mixture of bringing anxiety
to the slopes is like, is a big test.
And of course, you know, he deals with anxiety too.
So does Lily and like Lily learned how to ski,
but then she was like, it just,
it makes me really anxious to like be going down a mountain
on these like flat wooden things, you know, it's like-
She's using wooden skis?
Well, that's a problem.
Well, I guess they're not wooden.
Welcome to the 90s.
I guess they're not wooden.
Okay.
My papa had wooden water skis.
That's what I was thinking about.
Like the ones that are hanging up on the GMM set.
But Lando, when we eased him into it, he did really well.
And it was, so it was just a test of anxiety of like,
okay, being in a comfort zone.
You know, if you, so no, I did not push myself.
I made a decision that was like,
I want to enjoy myself and you know,
I don't want to hurt myself.
That's the only thing I'm thinking about most of the time.
The thing about the greens there,
unlike definitely Big Bear, even Mammoth,
is that like you got like the lower part
where you got the greens
and then you keep going up the mountain
and it gets like, it gets more complex
and like Black Diamond as you go higher elevation.
Well, that's not really the case.
At Park City, there are way,
you can go all the way to the top
and definitely at Deer Valley,
you can go all the way to the top
and then ski greens all the way down.
So it's like, you can do these like really long runs.
And I was able to take Lando all the way up there
and really enjoy it.
Just like kinda take our time, do some carving.
It was warm too, it was nice.
I mean, so the snow wasn't great, but we don't care.
It's like, I'll drink any red wine, you know,
I'll ski any slope, especially if like,
if it's not- Don't combine those.
If it's not absolutely frigid.
Yeah, I'm not drinking wine, but on the slopes.
But we had, so we had a really good experience.
Lando didn't have the endurance or the,
just the appetite to stay as long as Lincoln and I.
So Lincoln and I could do some more blues
when he wasn't around.
And there's just so many places to explore.
And I gotta say, if you're on skis
and you go to a place that doesn't allow snowboarders,
that's not gonna happen much longer.
It's just economically, there's no way
they're gonna keep outlying snowboarding at Deer Valley.
There's too many grandkids that the grandparents
want them to go skiing with them.
If they've gotten until 2022 without allowing them.
Eric was even saying,
there's no way this will continue.
Well, they're holding out.
They're holding out big time,
but it is an entirely different experience
because snowboarders are, they're-
Punks. They're punks.
They're teenagers. Lowlifes.
They're 20 somethings and they're knuckle dragging
and they're like boot dragging and they're like taking
up space and they got this big blind spot
and they're tearing up the slopes and like,
I'm becoming hoity-toity about it.
But I'll tell you, I mean, it definitely feels different
because it was a different crowd.
It's an older crowd, it's a more docile crowd,
it's a less stinky crowd.
But I will go back to snowboarding.
I was like, Lincoln, you gotta learn to snowboard too.
And I can definitely get back on that.
I don't know what my pelvis will do.
Yeah, I think I ultimately had more fun snowboarding,
but I just don't think I can do it.
I think that the stress on the back is just too much.
I mean, that's why I switched.
Yeah, but the stress on the knees.
And I tore a ligament in my knee.
With skiing, so there you go.
It's like, it can still,
you can make an argument that snowboarding is safer.
I'd rather sacrifice the knees than the back though.
Okay.
See, I think I got into skiing
because you started scaring me about that.
But like, I actually don't know if for me,
snowboarding may be a better choice,
but I wanna be able to go both ways, you know?
Okay.
You hear me?
The Airbnb we stayed at, every morning when we woke up,
it was like this, this like,
all the windows were like two stories of windows,
like facing the ski slopes across the valley.
At night, I would sit there at the windows and see,
of course the slopes close at like four o'clock,
but like at midnight, you can see the groomers,
like those big snow cats coming down,
like they got their headlights on,
and it looks like falling stars,
just like traversing the slopes.
And it was a full moon.
It was a beautiful, it was a beautiful, beautiful night.
And then the next morning I get up and in our backyard,
there's a herd of elk grazing.
Really? A herd of freaking elk.
Never seen an elk in person.
Grazing right there.
And they came- Or an elk.
They came back every morning.
The first morning the dogs were going ballistic
and I was like, there's some fluffy deer out there.
And Christy's like, I don't think that's a deer.
Well, were they like the size of horses?
Yeah.
Because they're very big.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And then Christy's like, I was like, well, you know what, I think it's an elk.
She looked it up and sure enough, Rhett, it was elk.
Sitting right out there, just grazing,
taking little dumps at the edge of my backyard
that then the dogs would go out there
and investigate afterwards.
And Jasper would probably try to eat it.
I did not let the dogs out while the elk were there.
I didn't know what would happen,
get kicked in the face or something like that.
Undoubted, they probably would run.
So the final highlight, one night we,
Christy booked, she was like,
we're going to the Viking Yurt.
I was like, what?
A yurt is like, what is that, like a big tent?
She was like, yeah. I was like, what? She's like a big tent? She was like, yeah.
I was like, what?
She's like, it's on the top of a mountain
and you're gonna ride in a sleigh to get there.
And so it's like, we show up
and there's this one of those snow cats,
you know, that like pulls the stuff that grooms the mountain
like with the treads and stuff
that can go straight up the mountain.
It was pulling this like sled type thing
that would hold 20 people.
And so like all of us and-
What city was this in?
This is in Park City.
This is in Park City?
This is on the Park City slope.
Okay, because they have a thing like this in Vail.
So like you go to the resort.
It's a restaurant.
Yeah, it's a restaurant.
So you get on the sleigh pulled by the snowcat
and you go up the mountain.
Christy, who wasn't skiing the slopes,
we're like telling her, oh, we were skiing the slope.
We were like, we were here today.
And just like, so she got to experience the slopes,
even though she didn't want to ski.
And we go up there, again, it was a full moon.
By the time we get up there to this like tent
that will hold like individual tables,
enough for like 20 people, so pretty small.
And it was a six course meal.
I was like, man, I'm not used to sitting down
and eating a six course meal.
I'm not used to eating for two hours.
I'm not French.
Yeah.
It was awesome though.
And we get up there to the top
and it turns out we had skied all around that thing.
We didn't even notice that there was a yurt right there.
Was it a Viking?
It was Viking themed.
We wore Viking helmets for some photo ops.
Yeah.
It's true.
Was it like eating with your hands?
Was it like medieval times?
It didn't go that far, no.
We still spoke English and no one was killed
and no one was making love in the yurt in front of everybody.
And nobody, there weren't people like-
That's what I think about.
Like I watched the show Vikings
and that's the thing I remember is that they were making
love under the bear skins in front of everybody.
Right, but were there people like-
Nobody did that. Who looked like Vikings serving and stuff?
No. Can I get a job there?
No, they served us some grog,
which was like a spiced, I don't know, wassail.
Okay. Some sort of a wassail drink,
I would call it, they called it grog.
They kind of frowned when I said,
oh, you mean, this like a wassail.
Mm.
And then they spiked it and we had a good night.
Came back down.
Took the sleigh down.
Took the sleigh back down.
Hold on, when you take the sleigh down,
is it not being pulled anymore?
It's just free fall?
Just let you go.
On the way up, man, there were all these groups of like,
like Utah people
with skis going up the mountain. To get to the yurt?
No, just like, this is what they do on a Thursday night.
Cross country skiing.
Well, it turns out it's not cross country,
it's uphill skiing.
They were going up the hill.
I was like, how does this happen?
I had to ask Eric.
He was like, oh, it's called skinning.
And then he went out and he got, he was like,
here are my skins.
It's like fill of it.
You put this skin over your ski.
And then if you rub it one way, he's like,
you know those pillows you rub and it's smooth one way
and you rub it the other way and it's like dark.
You push it forward, it grabs a slope and you can go up.
Yeah, it's fabric and it's called skinning.
Maybe-
You gotta make sure you put those on the right way.
My guess is that they would like put elk skin on there
back in the day.
And if you rub the hairs, if you go against the grain,
you can climb up the mountain.
So there's people like-
Only rubbing elk one way.
It's called uphilling, alpine touring or skinning.
And they probably disconnect their heel.
Yep, the heel is disconnected.
And then you can, once you hike up,
then you turn around, you get to the top,
you take your skins off and you readjust your boots
and you ski back down.
I mean, I'm-
That seems pretty cool.
It's another thing.
It's a workout.
Yeah, it's a workout.
Like I really like Park City, man.
I really like it.
I think I'm gonna be going back.
I mean, in the summertime, there's mountain biking
that everything converts to being still an outdoor play place
for mountain biking.
Eric's definitely trying to talk me into like
getting a place in Park City.
I'm like, well, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Is he mountain bike?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I don't know, positive report on Park City, man.
I'm glad you didn't get hurt.
I didn't get hurt.
So that's-
I mean, you gotta push it a little harder.
No.
You gotta get a Ralph in your life
that takes you to the top of the mountains and just-
Nope. Throws you into a blizzard your life that takes you to the top of the mountains and just- Nope.
Throws you into a blizzard
and then you have to beg the person
to let you go back down the lift.
That turns you into a man.
Not if you go back down on the lift.
Well, they didn't let me.
If you had to do it again,
would you have gone down the lift?
Well, no, I don't have to do it again.
I'm glad I didn't go down the lift.
If you were time traveled back to that moment where you decided to not go back. I'm glad I didn't go down the lift. If you were time travel back to that moment
where you decided to not go back down the lift,
would you have gone down the lift?
No, it turns out I ended up being fine.
I thought that's when you hurt your knee.
No, no, I hurt my knee on a green.
Oh, yeah, you can have it.
It doesn't matter.
The color of the slope doesn't indicate the injury.
Is it my wreck today?
Necessarily.
Wreck, baby wreck, baby one, two, three, four.
I'll wrap it up with Found Another Music Podcast.
You know I'm into classic hip hop music podcasts.
More of them are coming out of the woodwork.
It's like, it's kind of like the founding fathers
of hip hop are coming to grips with the fact that like,
hey, we're still here and we're holding the mantle
for what we've built and for what's blown up
to what it is today and strengthening the ties
between early hip hop
and what it's become today
so that they can be appreciated.
And in some ways, it's still relevant.
I think the perfect example of that,
if you're into what I'm saying is The Bridge,
50 years of hip hop.
It's hosted by Nas and Miss Info.
Lots of good episodes that I've enjoyed.
Ice Cube, DJ Jazzy Jeff,
Reverend Ron from Run DMC.
Listened to Cypress Hill recently.
These are all like throwback episodes.
There's some, he also interviews Cordae.
So he's got some newer, but Nas, you know,
he's hip hop legend, so he can get people
to come on his show that won't do any other podcasts
like Chuck D.
And so if you're into that like I am, it's really cool.
And if you're not, you wouldn't like it.
The Bridge.
It's a Spotify original.
So it's only on Spotify, I guess.
Have at it.
And we'll see you next week.
Oh, you weren't ready for that.